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EPISODE 546: LIVE FROM FULTON COUNTY JAIL - TRUMP ARREST, GOP DEBATE FALLOUT

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	This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
	Deliver us from evil!
	You all signed a pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee.
	If former President Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice?
	Please raise your hand if you would.
	President Trump, I believe, was the best president of the 21st century.
	It's a fact.
	And Chris Christie, honest to God, your claim that Donald Trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance would be a lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance and grievance against one man.
	See, I think he's the most corrupt president we've ever had.
	And he also has the distinction of being the most incompetent.
	I actually believe he's compromised because China knows so much about him.
	They know where the money comes from.
	They know where it is, who paid it, and they probably paid it.
	But he, in many ways, is a Manchurian candidate.
	Hours from now, former President Donald Trump is expected to turn himself into the Fulton County Jail on charges of election interference.
	The former president is expected to get a mugshot like the nine alleged co-conspirators who have already turned themselves in.
	This will be the first time in U.S.
	history that a president or former president will have his fingerprints collected and mugshots taken.
	This horrible district attorney from essentially Atlanta, that's Fulton County, She said, basically, I don't have any right to challenge an election.
	Well, what about Stacey Abrams?
	What about Hillary Clinton?
	What about all of these Democrats that are still challenging my election?
	They're suing me, and they're saying, you don't have any right to challenge it.
	If you challenge an election, we're going to indict you and put you in jail.
	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
	We are live down at Fulton County.
	We've got a shot there in the corner, as President Trump is expected to attend later today, where he's going to be brought like a common criminal, put up against the wall, fingerprinted, and given a mug shot.
	Today is August 24th, 2023.
	Anno Domini.
	Here's what people don't realize.
	Let's set the stage.
	The regime is now throwing every last thing they have at Trump and his allies, his supporters.
	Every last thing.
	It's daunting.
	But if we prevail in this twilight struggle, America can and will be saved.
	All the forces of destruction will have left is their hiding places in the shadows and we will go to root every single one of them out.
	We will find them wherever they're hiding.
	And if they take Trump off the ballot or do something else, To take Trump out physically.
	We are right back where we started.
	No other candidate would ever choose to enter Let alone finish this fight.
	This is the great fight of which we are in right now.
	We've been locked in this struggle for nearly a decade at this point and it can be summed up in one succinct phrase.
	Did you really think they would let you take your country back?
	Did you really think They would sit back and do nothing.
	Look, I watched the debate last night.
	We did a great stream.
	Myself, Charlie Kirk, the whole gang.
	And then I watched the Tucker-Trump debate or, you know, discussion this morning.
	Watched clips of it last night.
	And I have to say, they're sitting up there talking about school choice and tax policy and all these other things.
	While the frontrunner, the leader of the opposition, is about to be arrested.
	It's like planning your Sunday brunch when you know there's a Category 5 hurricane that's about to hit on Saturday.
	Wake up!
	What are these Republicans thinking?
	They're sitting up there campaigning like it's the 1980s.
	They're sitting up there acting like the regime will just waltz away if they feed them Trump, if they give them Trump.
	Do you even understand?
	They're not threatened by you.
	They think you're weak.
	They think you're pathetic.
	They understand that you know what's going on.
	They don't expect you to believe it.
	They expect you to do nothing about it.
	And what do you see from these other Republicans?
	They do nothing.
	Empty platitudes, attack lines here and there, and they do nothing.
	Well, I'll tell you something, right here, we are going to do something today.
	We've got a jam-packed show.
	Ben Berquam is on the ground, Fulton County.
	We're going to have Libby Evans.
	We have Darren Beattie, Vish Bhura.
	We are going to have so many people coming on today because this is The centerpiece.
	We are on the front lines of the fight for our American freedom.
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	I want to go down now to Fulton County.
	We've got Ben Burquam who's on the ground.
	Things are heating up.
	Ben, tell us what you're seeing.
	Tell us what you're feeling.
	Yeah, hey, just a second ago, actually right when we started the show, one of the other news outlets was live over here and we had Harrison Floyd, one of the 19 co-defendants or 18 co-defendants, black voices for Trump.
	He came up, jumped over this barricade you can see here and got in front of the camera.
	He said that the DA was not letting him in to turn himself in.
	He was upset.
	It's hot out here.
	It's in the 90s.
	It's 100% humidity.
	Everyone's sweating.
	Everyone's hot.
	Everyone's pissed.
	I mean, you see what's going on here.
	We've got several hundred Trump supporters up the street here.
	They've barricaded them into kind of a corral.
	You've got more Trump supporters across the street on the other side, just trying to stay cool.
	Everyone thought President Trump was going to show up earlier today, but now we're hearing that it's probably going to be closer to six or seven, closer to primetime.
	So we're covering it out here.
	We did just get word that Mark Meadows has been given a bond, I think of $100,000.
	But bottom line is, all of this is, you know it, we know it, America sees it.
	It's all political garbage.
	It's all trying to stop President Trump.
	And even the, as you played some of that from the debate last night, just an absolute sham from the rhinos on, you know, the, on the right as well.
	You've got the establishment lined up with the far left trying to do everything they can to stop President Trump because they know Joe Biden has no shot.
	But I think it's bigger than that.
	I think it's bigger than that.
	Tell us a little bit.
	Tell us a little bit about, no I agree with you, tell us a little bit about the security situation.
	I saw a video earlier, it said they were filling these barricades behind you with water, is that correct?
	What other kind of security do they have?
	Yeah, they've got sheriffs basically all of the streets that surround the jailhouse.
	We're about a half a mile from the actual jail.
	It's as close as you can get.
	There's two entrances, one behind me and one on the other side of the block.
	This is all barricaded off.
	They came in, basically what they did is it seems like they put us into a bottleneck to set up this situation.
	So you had Trump supporters over here, this is where they said they were allowed to support to protest and support of President Trump.
	And then, but basically the media has set up all on the grass here.
	So Trump supporters were walking back and forth on the road, and then they said they couldn't be on the road.
	So that seemed to be the justification to barricade everybody in.
	And now we've got not just the local sheriffs, but we've got Cobb County sheriffs.
	We've got several other jurisdictions that have joined in on this.
	And again, it's like everything else.
	It's to set the optics as if there's going to be some sort of violence, as if there's going to be some sort of situation.
	And we know that in all of these situations, if that happens, it's usually perpetrated by the left.
	But going back real quick, all of this though, Jack, is not even about today.
	It's not even about the election.
	It's about setting the stage for when President Trump wins.
	They know, I believe they know he will win, is for them to be able to send out Antifa, send out BLM into the streets and to continue the civil war.
	Incredible.
	Ben Berquam, great work.
	Thank you so much for your time.
	Thank you so much for your hit down there.
	I want to bring in now Vish Bhara, the Executive Secretary, New York Republican Club.
	Vish, you and I were at the protest that was held up in New York.
	We saw incredible levels of security, but there's something about this one, man.
	I don't know if you have the same feeling as me, but I feel like it's going to get hot in Atlanta today.
	What are your thoughts?
	Well, they don't call it Hotlanta for no reason, Jack.
	I think that the temperatures are rising.
	And honestly, it is friendly territory for Trumpers and MAGA in Georgia, right?
	And so I think you're going to see some energy there.
	And I think that, you know, the law enforcement in that area are getting ready for what they think is going to be, you know, a huge support, huge turnout for the president, for Donald Trump.
	And they should be, they should be worried.
	Honestly, not because that there's going to be any violence or anything like that, but because it is very clear to people in the MAGA movement, people in America, normal Americans everywhere, that this is an egregious political persecution, not prosecution.
	Right?
	And so I think that, you know, that Americans everywhere are able to see clearly That Phony Willis has been abusing the RICO mechanisms her whole career, and now she's trying to cap her activist career with an indictment of Donald Trump.
	And so I think it's clear as day that it's a political persecution.
	And instead of politically persecuting Donald Trump, Phony Willis should be celebrating and Having fun in Hotlanta's historic club scene, you know, partying to Party Monster by the weekend or something like that.
	But she is way out of her league here.
	This is the most egregious and silly indictment out of all the indictments that President Trump has been slapped with.
	And I think that, again, there is no hiding the brazen, heavy-handed nature of the regime as it speaks and acts through people like Phony Willis.
	And I think that that Americans are just, they're tired of it.
	And so they should, the regime should be expecting pushback.
	I think that Georgia's gonna expect pushback. - Well, and Vish, I said in the opening of the show today that when you look at this level, we do have a regime.
	We are under a regime occupation.
	We're living through an era of regime politics.
	I've been saying this since the installation of Joe Biden.
	I've been saying it for years at Turning Point events and other events where I've spoken, and yet it feels like these other candidates aren't even in the same conversation.
	What is your sense of them holding this debate as if this isn't going on today?
	Well, I think it's very clear that everybody on that stage, save for Rebecca maybe, they want Donald Trump in the past, right?
	They want to forget about him, move on.
	They want to create the meme that Donald Trump is, you know, the GOP of the past or something.
	And that is disgusting, to be quite honest.
	None of those people would be even, oh, so many of those people wouldn't even be up there if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
	And this is how they repay him?
	By going up on stage and debating for his job?
	No.
	This is disgusting.
	And I think that, obviously, there's donor pressures that are happening.
	I think that a lot of these guys have an outdated mentality on what politics in America is today.
	We say it all the time, but wash, rinse, repeat.
	You have to know what time it is.
	What time it is right now.
	The regime is coming for us.
	The regime is coming for our children.
	People are always worried about whether, you know, the $30 trillion in debt that we have, you know, who's going to pay that off?
	And we say, you know, it's our kids, our grandkids and all these things.
	But think about also our rights, our freedom, our sovereignty, our ability to express freely, you know, our thoughts, our words, and being able to associate with Whoever we want.
	These are all the things that are under attack that might be even more precious than the material things that we stand to lose with this incompetent and runaway regime.
	Our rights, our freedoms, our sovereignty is all at stake.
	And all of this is defined in this flashpoint under the indictment with Donald Trump and other Republicans, any Republican in the future.
	Trying to run for office, big or small, has to know what time it is.
	And those are the people that we're looking for.
	Those are the people that we're fighting with.
	And those are the people that we're going to help elect into office.
	Yeah, man, you know, Vish, I saw Chris Christie up there, and I'm like, Chris Christie, this dude's running as a Fed.
	He's going right back to his Fed ways, talking about how he's the top cop, talking about how he's a prosecutor.
	Look, he is angling, I'm convinced now, he is angling for a position as Attorney General for one of these anti-Trump candidates, or dare I say it, Attorney General under a Democrat.
	Last minute, Vish Bharara, what do you think?
	Well, I think that if you want to consider Chris Christie a top cop, just look at the last guy that Chris Christie helped put into a top cop-like position, like Christopher Wray of the Trenton Mafia.
	If Christopher Wray is an example of the kind of top cop that Chris Christie would be, I think we are in big, big trouble, and it's bigger than Chris Christie's waistline, I promise.
	Vish, where can people go to follow you?
	Where can they go to get all the spicy takes?
	You can follow me on Twitter, at Vish Burra.
	That's mainly where you can find me.
	Truth Social, at Vish.
	And yeah, follow me, all my spicy takes.
	And Jack, thanks so much for having me on.
	Love your show, man.
	Love the work you do.
	You're great.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	I'll see you soon.
	All right, Fishboro, we go now.
	Darren Beattie will be joining us in the very next segment.
	We've got Ben Berquam live in Hotlanta, where it's heating up.
	You know, Atlanta, Fulton County, same headquarters as CNN.
	CNN headquartered right down the street from the Fulton County Jail.
	Remember, folks, there are no coincidences.
	Talk about influences.
	These are influences.
	And they're friends of mine, Jack Pasovic.
	Where's Jack?
	He's done a great job.
	All right, Jack Pasovic back live here.
	I'm in D.C.
	We've got our cameras down there watching the Fulton County Jail.
	We've got, of course, Ben Burquam on the scene.
	Got a little bit of video before we bring Darren Beatty in here of a gentleman who spoke to freedomnews.tv earlier today.
	Let's play that clip.
	I'm here to support President Trump.
	You wanna know why I'm here to support President Trump?
	Because they done did black men like this for decades.
	Make up charges and pull them.
	So I know Trump is innocent.
	I support Trump against this corrupt two-tiered justice system.
	That's why I'm here to show my support as a black man for Trump.
	And I'm wearing my shirt and sh** for Trump 2024 and I mean that.
	What do you think about the indictments?
	Oh, it's a bunch of bulls**t. It's going around the country.
	You know, Fannie Willis, she went to school with my sister.
	She's full of st. She was full of st then.
	So, she's a puppet for the white liberal that is controlling everything.
	She's in front, but the white liberal back there pulling those strings, telling her what to do.
	Gotta say, that's the kind of energy I feel right there.
	That's the kind of energy America's feeling right now.
	Let's see what kind of energy Darren Beatty is feeling.
	So Darren, we watched that debate last night.
	I actually haven't said anything about it yet here on the show.
	I will say one thing just because it must be said.
	For me, The biggest issue of the debate was that Ron DeSantis needed to have a breakout moment.
	He didn't.
	It's a home run derby.
	This isn't just batting practice.
	So maybe he got on base, there were no home runs.
	Did he have any moment that stood out?
	Yes, he did have a moment that stood out.
	It was the moment when he looked around to see who was raising their hand, Before he raised his own.
	That's the type of moment in a debate where the sort of voters look around, they're eyeing up these candidates.
	That's the kind of thing that you can't shake.
	That's the kind of thing where your metal is tested and the scripts go away, the talking points go away, the super PAC coaching goes away, and it's just up to you.
	And in that moment, he looked around I completely agree.
	That was the big moment.
	The big moment for DeSantis was his moment of indecision.
	that's something voters can shake.
	But Mr. Ramaswamy also, I think, really did shake a lot of people's perceptions of the race.
	Darren Beattie, what's your take?
	I completely agree.
	That was the big moment.
	The big moment for DeSantis was his moment of indecision.
	And that, I think, tells us what we need to know about his leadership characteristics.
	I just find it surprising that he was looking around to the other candidates and not to his donors in the audience.
	But maybe he wants to see whether he has cover to do it when the other candidates are raising their hand or not.
	But it was embarrassing.
	I think he had a lot of bizarre facial tics that may be superficial, but again, things are so scripted and so rehearsed in these debates that you have to look to these micro tells are these sort of honest signals to get any meaningful information about people.
	And sometimes, you know, it's the most important type of information, like indecision that you mentioned.
	I think Vivek is another big story of this debate.
	He's the only person on stage with anything remotely interesting to say, or who represents anything remotely interesting.
	He's sort of the millennial tech inflected meritocratic answer to the system that we have now, which there could be many worse answers.
	And he's testing out something fairly new, I think, in politics that people find refreshing.
	He enjoys himself, as people say.
	It's kind of fun to see him, fun to watch him enjoying himself.
	And other than Vivek, everything was so stale, so boring, so rehearsed, and such a poignant reminder of what politics was like before Trump and what politics will look like after Trump.
	And hopefully after Trump, we're going to have, you know, some more years, another term with him.
	But there will unfortunately be an after Trump.
	And this is a glimpse to the future of what that's going to look like.
	Very bleak and uninspiring.
	And I don't think it's an accident that Vivek, who comparatively is the most interesting thing on the stage, He's the guy who comes from outside of the GOP apparatus, just like Trump did.
	The GOP apparatus cultivates the boring mediocrities you can possibly imagine.
	It's almost Nietzschean in the sense that Nietzsche, of course, famously talked about the overman, but he also talked about the last man, this grasp for mediocrity, this grasp for safety and security and the community and the confines of essentially nothing, no self-actualization whatsoever.
	Darren, you had a series of tweets referring to cattle slop last night.
	What did you mean by cattle slop?
	Well, we should go tweet by tweet, but generally speaking, it's exactly the same of kind of not just intellectually, but spiritually soporific content that's designed to just keep people in a state of political and mental and cultural stupor.
	It's the kind of content that you see fed out and doled out on Fox News Routinely, and it's the kind of bromides that you hear in debates again.
	It's just not that there's anything wrong with the Constitution.
	We all love the Constitution.
	But when you have another empty suit, who's never taken any real risks in his life, who has never challenged the system in any meaningful way, say, I'm going to end the Constitution.
	What does that mean?
	Or say, I'm going to cut federal spending by X percent.
	Yawn.
	This kind of boring stuff that's meant to just lead a crowd of zombies.
	That's cattle slop.
	It's reverting back to, regressing back to the mean of empty, boring bromides that have defined the rhetoric of Republican politics for so long up until Trump.
	That's my best characterization of what cattle slop is.
	If I wanted to be a little bit meaner, I would say cattle slop is your typical hour with Sean Hannity.
	I couldn't agree more, you know, and even these platitudes of, oh, it's the Bidens, we're going to go after the Bidens, we've got to find the next TikTok.
	And you saw, by the way, and Hannity, and let's point this out.
	Throughout the Trump administration the indictments are coming two more weeks Tick-tock here.
	They come it's it's got to be just right around the corner and first it was a member Jeff Sessions was gonna swing in from the rafters and then it was going to be the secret Durham Durham's going to come in and then finally bar was was brought in and none of it came to pass meanwhile so many years were squandered away by
	Rather than fighting for immigration, rather than fighting to do something about the cartels fighting against various implements of America's deep state.
	Instead, we're left with these goose chases, we're left with these constant strings of inanities rather than solving actual policy questions.
	And I think that's why the regime has targeted Trump the way that they have.
	Because he is the only one that fundamentally asks questions about trade, foreign policy, and immigration.
	As far as I can tell, the other candidates don't, with the exception of Vivek, who's at least trying out different things.
	And I appreciate that he's willing to go after certain Republican shibboleths, like foreign aid in some instances.
	And clearly, what did you think of his vote or his statement on Ukraine, which I think was even far further than Trump is going on it, really.
	I mean, I think it was entirely sensible, and it was something that is much needed as part of the discourse in a presidential debate.
	And again, it's something that wouldn't have been there had it not been for Vivek, the only person on stage who wasn't cultivated under the auspices of institutional republicanism, which is, you know, where any kind of bit of originality or charisma goes to die.
	I think we need these as part of the conversation.
	Vivek is encouraging.
	It's a far cry from Trump.
	It's just a different phenomenon entirely.
	And I fear it's just a once in a generation type thing and we're not going to see anything like Trump after Trump goes.
	But that's the way it is.
	At least we could have Vivek.
	It's something that's new and refreshing because It's just hard to listen to these people like Nikki Haley, like Mike Pence.
	We've just seen this over and over and over and over and we know that it signifies nothing.
	Well, and I think there is a huge generational divide here, and that's something that you're seeing Pence tap into, though perhaps incorrectly, when he says, oh, you were in grade school when 9-11 happened, I was on Capitol Hill.
	Yeah, that was 22 years ago.
	That makes you sound old, right?
	That's like coming up in the 2000s talking about the Vietnam War.
	It's nothing against that, but it's also a situation where they seem to have not realized that the country has shifted under their feet since then, and economic issues right now really are the massive driver of voter turnout and the massive driver of our politics, because when people can't afford to put food on their table or food in the collection plate, those are the issues that they're going to vote on, not who's in control of the Donbass.
	Exactly.
	And, you know, I think it's always kind of been that way.
	Foreign policy has always sort of been a niche issue.
	It's always been about the economy.
	And Trump understands this, and it's reflected in his messaging.
	I think to a degree, you know, Vivek understands this as well.
	But, you know, the basic conditions of life, the basic conditions of livelihood of Maintaining a first world lifestyle.
	These are all under existential threat in the United States.
	So it would have been nice to hear about, would have been nice to have at least one question from the moderators about, okay, what are we going to do in response to the fact that the Department of Justice is entirely weaponized against GOP politically?
	What's your answer to that?
	Would have been nice to have one question like that, but again, it sounded so much like these old GOP debates that you'd hear, you know, in the early 2000s.
	Darren, we are coming up on the break here.
	Darren, thank you so much for your time today.
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	revolver.news, as always.
	And we're on Twitter, at Darren J. Beattie.
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	We're going to learn a lot about the fence cutter and Darren Beatty is hot on the trail.
	Stay tuned.
	We go back to Ben Burquham.
	We go back to Fulton County.
	Libby Emmons will be joining us.
	Human Events continues.
	It's getting hot in Hotlanta.
	President Trump, his mugshot, will be coming soon.
	about the boring people at your office and trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
	All right, Jack Posobiec, back here.
	You're looking now at a live shot of the Fulton County Jailhouse, where President Trump will be arriving.
	I'm told, by the way, that he plans to take off from New Jersey around 6 p.m.
	to land in Atlanta there about 7, 7.30 p.m.
	Eastern, and so that means we're just about five hours away I'm good, Jack.
	his arrival will be later this evening.
	President Trump, of course, scheduling his appearance, his date with destiny in prime time.
	Wanna bring on now Libby Emmons, the editor in chief of humanevents.com and the Post Millennial.
	Libby, it's been a minute.
	How are you? - I'm good, Jack, how are you? - What is your take on the debate last night?
	I know you and I were talking on the phone late last night, early this morning.
	Give us your sense, and I ask this as someone who comes to this who's, you know, you're not necessarily a dyed-in-the-wool Trump supporter.
	I do consider you to be more objective on this.
	What was your sense?
	Did DeSantis do what he needed to do to solidify his position as the top alternative to Trump?
	No, he did not.
	He did not do that, and I think that that was shockingly clear.
	He was part of the background.
	The person who really stepped into the limelight and was able to shine was Vivek Ramaswamy, who stepped out with confidence.
	He knew exactly what he was talking about.
	He knew what he wanted to say.
	He said it, and he got done exactly, I believe, what he intended to do.
	Everyone else just fell into the background next to his decisive takes.
	Um, and, uh, you know, very confident stance.
	DeSantis was running on his record.
	He's got a great record in Florida.
	We all know that.
	We've all seen that.
	But again, he did not seem particularly decisive.
	There was a moment, uh, when it was, um, you know, the, the moderators did a lot of raise your hand if you support this or that.
	And there was a moment where DeSantis looked around to see who else was raising their hand.
	before he put his hand up.
	And that's it.
	That's that moment right there.
	And he looks just incredibly weak for doing that.
	Why would you look around to see what other people are doing before you know what you're going to do?
	That's certainly not something that we should be seeing from a man who wants to be the leader of the United States and, in essence, the free world, as we're so used to saying.
	Well, I think that's exactly right, because, look, these are the kind of moments that define you.
	Everybody remembers in 2015 when they asked, are there any people on the stage who will not support the eventual nominee?
	And Donald Trump was the only man who raised his hand.
	And so you can say this is a gotcha question.
	You can say it's a gotcha moment.
	I do think that Fox was a little bit too CNN-ish in their questioning, but at the same time, You have to follow- you agreed to do the debate, dude!
	You agreed to do the debate, so if you're gonna be there, you have to be under their rules.
	That's the system.
	Raise your hand or not, and I think that juxtaposition of the decisiveness of Vivek versus the indecisiveness of Ron DeSantis is going to be absolutely devastating for Ron DeSantis, and I agree, and I thought about it last night, I tweeted this, That I think you're going to see Vivek Ramaswamy see an absolute spike in the polls after this.
	Yeah.
	And to your point, what do you think of Vivek?
	Yeah, I think he's really interesting.
	He certainly moves the conversation in a way that I think is important.
	I appreciate how strongly he comes out against continuing the war effort to fund that war effort in Ukraine.
	I appreciate that very much.
	I think he also knows how important Trump supporters and Trump voters are.
	To any GOP nominee, and he goes out there and says that he supports Trump.
	He speaks directly against the weaponization of the DOJ that has been levied at not only Trump, but Trump supporters, which we have seen in Michigan with the arrest of the electors, which I believe Tony Evers wants to do in Wisconsin as well, which we have seen with the prosecution of the little guy at Mar-a-Lago, who, you know, the maintenance guys and the IT guy and this kind of thing.
	So I appreciate that Vivek has been coming out very strongly, supporting Trump, and in so doing, saying that he is a supporter of Trump voters, which is important.
	I know that DeSantis has come under fire for saying unkind things about Trump voters, and I think that that's a real mistake.
	Trump voters make up a huge part of the voting base of this party, and it's important to embrace them.
	Also, Vivek has a little bit more Well, actually, wait, Libby, don't bury the lead there, as Steve would say, because he didn't just say negative things, he referred to listless vessels.
	He said, you can't just be waiting to see whatever comes down the pike from Truth Social before you make a decision.
	Oh, really?
	You mean like a guy who's looking around on stage to see whether or not he should raise his hand?
	Like that kind of listless vessel?
	Yeah, I'd really hate To be in front of millions of people and have a moment like that.
	Especially if I were a sitting governor with hundreds of millions of dollars backing me that I'm setting on fire all around the country.
	I'd really hate to have a moment where I looked like a listless vessel.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	No, by all means.
	That brings up another point, which is that Ron DeSantis, in saying those things about Trump supporters, is really just repeating what so many in corporate media and coastal elites like to say about the rest of the country, which is that they like to say that Americans are stupid.
	And I think that's absolutely insane.
	Americans are not stupid.
	Americans are intelligent.
	They know what they're after.
	They know what they think.
	They are critical thinkers.
	And it's time to stop deriding all of these people out in the rest of the country just because you think you're better than them.
	And I think that the DeSantis campaign has shown time and again that they think they're better than the rest of America.
	And that's not really something that I'm in favor of for sure.
	What did you think about this debate?
	Now, I'll ask you as a mom here.
	What did you think about this dust-up between Pence and Ramaswamy vis-a-vis military aid to Ukraine, our commitment to NATO, the war in Ukraine?
	What side of that did you come down on?
	Well, I'm a very anti-war person, and I'm even more anti-war now that my son is 13 and he's got only five years before he has to register for Selective Service, and I have no interest in seeing him get carted off to Europe to die in the battlefields to protect the border of some country that has nothing to do with us, especially while our borders are totally overrun.
	New York City is getting totally destroyed, decimated by this massive influx of illegal immigration.
	And I think that it's really a travesty.
	I appreciated what Vivek was saying about not participating further in a war in Ukraine.
	And I thought that Pence just looks like a, you know, a fool going out there and saying that if we don't, one thing that he said was that if we don't stop Putin now, US armed forces would have to go over there and fight.
	And we already have US armed services in Ukraine.
	You know, special services, special forces rather, stationed in the embassy there.
	We have Americans giving Ukrainian military people instructions on how to use the weapons that we keep sending, the billions and billions of dollars of weapons that we keep sending.
	We have them training Ukrainian pilots to fly our fighter jets, which if anyone recalls, Biden promised to not do, saying that that would lead to World War III.
	So you have Biden out there dragging us to World War III, and you have Pence, who clearly wants to follow in Biden's footsteps and make sure that nothing stops us from engaging in a full-on war with Russia.
	And as soon as we're out there with Russia, which is another thing that Vivek said, You know, we're pushing Russia and China into each other's arms and then what?
	Are we going to have a two-front war defending Ukraine on one side and Taiwan on the other?
	Is that what we're really after?
	According to Mike Pence, that's probably the right move.
	I am totally opposed to that entire concept.
	Tell us how you really feel, Libby.
	Tell us how you really feel.
	Don't hold back.
	No, I agree with you.
	We've spoken of so many times Mearsheimer's warning, and that's exactly what you refer to, a two-front war in which we've driven.
	And now look, we can see it today, right?
	The assassination of Purgosian.
	That was, by the way, the ending of the family business, the settling of family business between Putin and Purgosian.
	At the same time, concurrent with the award ceremony of the Yasha Tank Crew and the meeting of the BRICS nations in South Africa, where Saudi Arabia, where Iran, where the UAE, the Gulf nations are all joining together against what?
	Against the Petrodollar.
	Against King Dollar.
	They're looking at us saying, we don't want to be part of the carnival, the circus, chopping the penises off of little kids.
	We don't want anything to chopping the breasts off of little girls.
	We want nothing to do with this.
	Okay, we're out of there.
	We're done.
	And you know what?
	The foreign policy establishment seems like they want to do everything to get us into that war.
	Stay tuned because we're going to come back with more Libby Emmons.
	We're also going to get Ben Berkman back from down there in Fulton County.
	We have to understand.
	It is getting hot in Hotlanta.
	What will the regime do next to stop Trump from taking office?
	There is a Category 5 hurricane coming, and these people want to act like we're planning Sunday brunch.
	I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
	All right, Jack Poselbeck back here live.
	You're seeing the shot there, Fulton County, Georgia.
	We know, folks, we know that when President Trump arrives, it'll be 7 p.m.
	hour Eastern, just about four hours time.
	That's when we're going to see protesters deployed.
	That's what we're going to keep in mind.
	This is not far at all from where the Treehouse Antifa, they were launched against Stop Cop City, this huge Antifa embankment.
	And Ring, basically a cell operating outside of Atlanta.
	Now it's getting hot.
	It's hot down there.
	We got Ben Berquam down live on the scene.
	Ben, what can you tell us?
	What are you seeing?
	What's it like?
	I, uh, well, as you mentioned, as you were talking about that, I just turned behind me and I saw the, uh, law enforcement pulling out their riot shields.
	So they're obviously preparing for something.
	There's really nothing going on here, uh, other than some healthy vocal arguments back and forth, people on both sides of the issue.
	Um, the vast majority of people that are here right now are in favor of president Trump.
	But as you mentioned, this is a hotbed for Antifa and BLM activity.
	It's very likely that they could end up showing up, and so I don't know if that's what that's for, or if it's just the optics that, you know, Trump supporters are violent, what the left wants to portray them as, when we all know that's not the truth.
	But as you said, we're still hearing somewhere around the seven o'clock hour is when he's anticipated showing up.
	Now when you said those heated back and forths, are we talking between protesters and counter-protesters, or are people getting into it with the police?
	No, no, protesters and counter protesters.
	So you've got and what's interesting right now, there's a group across the street of about 40 and they're mostly black, local blacks that from the black community here.
	And you have some on the pro-Trump side and some on the anti-Trump side.
	And they're arguing back and forth.
	And it's actually really interesting to hear the arguments and to see that shift taking place.
	One of the things I noticed when I arrived, please tell me you're getting audio of that, man.
	You know, there I did.
	I actually did.
	I'll send it over to you as soon as I get it, as soon as I upload it.
	And they're telling me that basically they're treating President Trump the way we've been treated for so long.
	The injustice that we've experienced is what they're doing to President Trump.
	So, really interesting dynamic happening here.
	I want to hear it all.
	Ben, thank you so much for being there on the ground.
	Stay safe, man.
	Stay warm.
	Hydrate.
	Stay cool, rather, I should say.
	Libby Emmons, bring it back in here.
	Libby, let's juxtapose this because I said before, it's like the hurricane is coming.
	These people are talking about Sunday brunch.
	Why was the weaponization of the regime against Trump not made a larger talking point last night?
	Well, I think that was up to Fox, wasn't it?
	And Fox was feeling a little, well, I guess the term is butthurt, about having lost out a substantial portion of their viewership to the Tucker Carlson interview of Trump, which premiered on X, formerly known as Twitter.
	I'd rather just call it Twitter, but whatever.
	Anyway, I think that was part of it.
	Twitter by X. We'll do Twitter by X. Twitter by X. Yeah, so you had Martha McCallum and Brett Baer asking questions about the potential weaponization of the Department of Justice against Trump, and people did answer it, but it was just another question as part of this debate.
	Now, what's interesting about that is that there has been a distinct attempt to normalize the prosecution of Donald Trump, who faces some 600 years in prison if he were convicted on all of these charges spanning four states, right?
	You have New York, Georgia, the DOJ prosecuting him in federal court in Florida and also federal court in Washington, D.C.
	I think that it's important for the American people to never forget that this has never happened before.
	We have never seen a president prosecuted We have never seen a former president prosecuted.
	Richard Nixon was pardoned, famously, by Gerald Ford, who came after him.
	So, this is a huge deal, and I think that it's really a shame that Fox downplayed it so much.
	When you looked at the interview that Tucker and Trump had, Trump talked about this.
	He talked about how Fox is no longer really a friendly network for him and that, you know, he didn't go to the debate because he's so far ahead in the polls.
	And also, why would he put himself out there for everyone to just take target practice when, as you've said multiple times, no one has really earned a shot at the title, which I think is also apparent.
	Last night, these men were all vying for, well, men plus Nikki Haley, who, did you notice, she kept using being female as part of her credentials?
	Constantly.
	It's like wrong page, wrong page, Nikki.
	Just reminded me of the Barbie movie all over again.
	We don't care about your innate identity factors.
	We're here based on the merits of these candidates.
	Yeah, everyone was clearly vying for second place.
	Well, I was going to say that not only that it's fine, it's what we have you on for, that it was the audience too, right?
	And Trump remembered the way that the RNC debates were stacked with donors, and that's exactly what they did.
	They put the RNC donors in front of the microphones, and Tyler Boyer, who is an RNC member, was explaining it to us, that that's why when Vivek Right.
	had that line about the climate change agenda being a hoax, you got booze.
	You actually got booze from that at a Republican event, which is normally something that would be up there with like an abortion line.
	Let's say, you know, I'm against abortion, boo.
	Like, no, absolutely not.
	If Rush Limbaugh were around right now, by the way, he'd be doing his entire show just on that one audience reaction, because this crowd was a setup.
	This was a planted crowd.
	This is exactly what they did to Trump in 2015.
	I think he remembered it, and I think he knew that it was not his crowd.
	This is different, by the way, from the crowd you saw at that Iowa summit where Tucker and the Blaze ran the entire thing.
	That is a true Yeah, I think that's right.
	This was not a crowd that was pro-Trump.
	These men were buying for second place.
	Nikki Haley should not go out there stumping on being female.
	We all know you're a chick, Nikki.
	It's okay.
	Like, what have you done for me lately?
	Your body is not the issue.
	I think Vivek really stole the show and I am anxious to see how going forward these candidates deal with the fact that Trump is being prosecuted by his primary political opponent.
	Joe Biden is prosecuting Donald Trump no matter how many times he says the Department of Justice is independent.
	We're seeing just from the treatment of Hunter Biden by the Department of Justice that the Department of Justice is skewed toward Biden.
	and has been since Biden became the apparent nominee for the Democratic presidency in 2020.
	So we've seen that quite clearly.
	And I think that this cannot be normalized.
	The arrest of Donald Trump in four states cannot be normalized.
	It needs to be called out every step of the way.
	As soon as we start saying that it's okay for one person to prosecute their political enemies, weaponizing the Department of Justice, none of us is safe in this country.
	Couldn't agree more.
	The way we fight back, start indicting them.
	Start locking them up.
	Let's get Ken Paxton out of this impeachment.
	Let's go.
	Let's start indicting as many Democrats as we can and as many red zones as we can.
	And let's give them a little taste of their own medicine.

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