Aug. 23, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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EPISODE 545: PRIGOZHIN PLANE CRASH IN RUSSIA, GOVT BLOCKED ROADS IN MAUI
On today’s can’t miss episode of Human Events, Jack Posobiec brings you a live update from Fulton County Jail the site of President Trump’s Indictment. Joined by a star studded ensemble of guests including, Libby Emmons of the Post Millennial, Vish Burra of the NYYRC, Darren Beattie of Revolver News and Ben Bergquam, Poso breaks down the inaugural Republican Primary Debate as well as the atmosphere before the historic persecution of President Trump. All this and more on today’s Human Ev...
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Donald Trump is out, announcing he will not participate in the first Republican debate on Wednesday, writing, the public knows who I am and what a successful presidency I had.
I will therefore not be doing the debates.
He's going to counter-program it with his little Tucker Carlson video.
He's gonna get himself arrested the next day and be a big martyr and a crybaby and just, you know, we'll talk about the debate for probably 15 seconds before he goes and, you know, steals his show again.
The cult of Trumpism is now verbal.
He's in our minds.
He's in our bloodstream.
It is a sickness.
It's a disease that America is carrying.
Wow.
Trump-itis.
There is that.
This operation is massive.
Well, I'm going to Georgia and I'm feeling very, very good about it because I feel like I'm defending the rights of all Americans, as I did so many times as a United States Attorney.
People like to say I'm different.
Well, I'm going to Georgia and I'm feeling very, very good about it because I feel like I'm defending the rights of all Americans, as I did so many times as a United States attorney.
People like to say I'm different.
I'm the same Rudy Giuliani that took down the mafia.
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Today is August 23rd, 2023.
I'm going to throw now to video directly outside of Moscow, where an aircraft reportedly belonging to Prygosian, the leader of the Wagner Group, has been, well, let's just say taken out of the sky.
Let's play the video.
It was shot down, it exploded twice, it's falling!
It's a big fish.
Where the fuck is Babahny?
Where did he fall?
Pieces are flying over there.
Where the fuck did you fall?
Fuck, what a smoke!
And there are still pieces flying over there.
Look at the club.
It's rising.
Fuck.
I'm shaking.
F**k!
Where is it?
F**k, I can't see anything!
There!
Near the farm.
We're on fire.
I don't understand, is there a farm nearby?
All right, for our podcast listeners, what you're watching there is footage from just outside Moscow, a field in a rural area after the plane had taken off.
We were told there were two planes, one carrying the Wagner leader, another carrying other members of the group.
One downed, the other one returned back to Moscow, and so supposedly the one that was taken down The one that went down, because we should be careful about that, I suppose, did carry the leader of Wagner and other Wagner officials.
Now, people say, well, could this be just an accident?
Could have this just been a mechanical failure?
Let me tell you something.
When you're in the part of the world like that, when you're embroiled in a war, when a coup attempt has just been launched exactly two months ago to the day, To the day!
The Crimean bridge attack, the drone strikes in Moscow that we've been seeing.
No.
Our very first thought should be that this plane was taken down.
Now the questions abound.
Was this Putin?
Could there have been a bomb on board?
Could it have been a drone?
Could this have been Ukraine?
Could this have been Western intelligence agencies?
This all remains to be seen because we are going to look at this data in full when we try to answer the question of who killed Yevigny Prigozhin, if in fact he was on board that plane.
But we're not going to lose sight of the signal here.
We're not going to lose sight of the signal because we're also going to focus like a directed energy weapon at Hawaii.
Stay tuned.
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Now, I want to move back because I said we would focus on Hawaii and there's a new report out of the Associated Press today that is so absolutely horrific that I'm just going to read it.
I'm just going to read excerpts from it to you.
In deadly Maui fires, many had no warning and no way out.
Only those who dodged barricades survived.
What do you mean dodged barricades?
What does that mean?
As flames tore through a West Maui neighborhood, car after car of fleeing residents headed for the only paved road out of town in a desperate race for safety.
And car after car was turned back toward the rapidly spreading wildfire by a barricade blocking access to Highway 30, the only road out of Lahaina.
One family swerved around the barricade and was safe in a nearby town 48 minutes later.
Another drove their four-wheel drive car down a dirt road to escape.
One man took a dirt road uphill, climbing above the fire and watching as Lahaina burned.
He later picked his way through the flames, smoke, and rubble to pull survivors to safety.
One neighborhood near Lahainaluna Road was filled with kids who were home alone with flames hit, one survivor said.
We needed 10 more minutes and we could have saved a lot of kids, he said choking back tears, if we had just had a 10 or 15 minute warning.
Remember the sirens were never turned on.
The family ventured out to a Kahuli mall recently looking for a moment of normalcy in the aftermath of the tragedy.
They ran into a playmate of their son and he said, the kids just don't have a filter.
So the son ran up and he was just telling our son, you know, this kid is dead.
This kid is dead.
And it's like all my son's friends that they come to our house every day and their parents were at work.
And they were sent home alone and nobody had a warning.
Nobody, nobody, nobody knew.
It's from the Associated Press.
Today, August 23rd, 2023, Anno Domini reported from the Hainahawaii, Maui.
Let me bring on now Ashley St.
Clair from the Babylon Bees.
She's also a great writer, a children's book author in her own right.
And Ashley, you were in Hawaii, though not on Maui, right around the time of this.
Walk me through what you were hearing on the ground and some of the other reporting that you've been putting through since this horrific tragedy began.
Jack, first, I just want to say listening to that report is very difficult.
It's heartbreaking to hear what's actually happening and to hear just how deadly this incompetence from the leadership was.
And that really is the feeling of many people in Hawaii.
Many people online are saying that, you know, there should have been these warnings.
They're not telling us the full truth.
You had reports saying, hey, we're seeing way more dead bodies out here than is being reported.
We had these reports on TikTok.
The people of Hawaii were obviously, they have so many questions still about what's going on.
And even as you read this report, right, I have questions about these barricades.
Were these barricades put up because of the fire?
How were they putting up barricades and not sending out sirens, not sending out warnings, not maybe getting water to the people quickly enough?
It's terribly heartbreaking.
How deadly this incompetence has been in Hawaii and in Maui.
You know, Ashley, and talk a little bit about where you were, because, you know, I've never been to Maui, I have been to Oahu, and I was stationed on Guam a couple of times when I was in the Navy.
These volcanic islands, when you're on certain areas of them, when you're going through it from town to town in some of these spots that are out of the big cities, there's literally only one road because they just don't have roads that go up the mountains.
They don't have roads that cut into the jungles.
So there's only one road in and out of so many of these towns.
And so for the government to blockade the road in the middle of a fire, because and look, I understand they were trying to deal with the power lines, but the stories that we're getting, they blockaded the road.
And that means those images that I think we've all seen at this point, the cars that were burnt out, dogs that were flash carbonized from the high heat of this fire, extremely high heat.
That means that the people were stuck on the road like that.
That's why the cars were all lined up and we're hearing stories now of entire families that were caught in these cars and essentially forced to be there by their own government.
Some people of course drummed out, jumped into the water.
We're now only going back and it's amazing because as you say, TikTok, other social media platforms, we've seen some of the videos.
Now we're piecing together the story of what actually happened.
That's absolutely right, Jack.
And the infrastructure in Hawaii, it's not built like these other places where there's so many people coming from different states and driving in.
It's very much, many of these places just have one lane roads or only two lane roads.
So I can imagine how difficult and how terrifying it was for some of these people trying to get out of Maui, trying to get away from the fires during this time.
Ashley, why isn't the government, I'm just going to cut to the chase, why isn't the government telling us, and we're told the FBI later this week will give us an update on the missing children, why won't the governor of Hawaii, why won't the mayor of Maui just come clean?
They know who's missing, they know what the names are, they know what the ages are, of course they do.
Right?
When I was on an aircraft carrier, you would have an entire muster sheet in a couple of minutes if somebody went overboard.
So you can't tell me that almost two weeks later, we don't know the names and ages of at least most of the people who are missing.
Ashley, why are they hiding this?
Because they're covering themselves, Jack.
It's very evident.
You know, they refused to release water for hours, for hours, because they have this woke ideology that water should be revered.
You had the overlord of the water saying, and even the governor in response to that, the most he said is that they maybe tipped a little too far in preserving water.
Well, that's putting it mildly, to say the least.
Yes, you tipped it a little too far.
Over a thousand people are missing or dead.
We don't know.
There's countless children missing.
We don't know, so they're covering their own incompetence here and this is what happens time and time again.
The fact that the FBI is involved, the fact that we know that cadaver dogs were brought early on, and you can see the look on these faces, and I said this yesterday on the Eric Metaxas Show, I mean this is like Chernobyl.
This is like Chernobyl in the sense that the government knows something and they are not Telling us they're not giving us the full facts.
They're not even sitting there trying to Tell us that they're very upset and then Biden tell me about what would what do you what do you take of Biden's?
Performance?
if you can even call it that when he visited.
Yeah, his performance or lack thereof, you know, and there's all these reports of him allegedly dozing off.
That's what it looked like to me and thousands of other people online.
It certainly looked like he dozed off during that.
But it's incredible the stark contrast of the media, right?
When Joe Rogan had COVID, you had CNN photoshopping him to be green so that he seemed sicker than he is.
And here we have Biden who looks like he's dozing off and they don't have anything to say about this man who should be in a nursing home.
He should not be leading these people who are going through extreme loss and tragedy.
I think at this point, we have to stop covering Biden as if there's not something mentally deficient with him.
This guy is not a normal president.
This guy's not, he doesn't even, I don't even know if he knows where he is.
They put him on the plane, he wakes up, he gets off.
And I'm just gonna say it again, I'm doubling down, I don't care what Snope says or NBC says.
The guy looks asleep to me because his head goes down, he starts nodding off, and then he has that startle, right?
Like when you fall asleep, like a kid who falls asleep in a classroom and then wakes up suddenly and kind of looks around.
You can see him do that.
And you know what NBC said, Ashley?
They said he was...
He was bowing his head in solemnity while praying.
I got news for you.
We do a little thing for the devout Catholics out there, because Joe Biden is such a devout Catholic.
Where's your sign of the cross, Joe?
Where's your sign of the cross whenever you go to pray?
Look, in our house, whenever you pass a graveyard, whenever an ambulance goes by with the siren on before we go to eat, Every single prayer we do, it's the sign of the cross.
It's the most basic part of the Holy Spirit.
I probably do it a dozen times a day, right?
It's so simple.
Actually, when we take off an aircraft, that's something that we always do.
We say a prayer.
And so, for a guy who's supposed to be Mr. Devout Catholic, where's your sign of the cross, Joe?
Where's your sign of the cross?
Ashley, one minute left.
Should we even treat Joe Biden as if he is a president at this point?
No, and I don't think anybody does.
I think we're the laughingstock of the world at this point.
And as Michael Mallett says, it's going to be hysterical if he's the nominee for 2024 because Joe Biden's not going to know if he's still in 2020.
He's going to feel like it's a repeat.
No, I don't think we should take him seriously.
And again, it's a tragedy that we don't have a real leader to be leading during this Maui travesty.
It's a shame.
It's an absolute shame.
We're a joke.
The BRICS nations are meeting.
They're talking about getting rid of the dollar.
They're saying they want out.
They want out of the freak show.
They want out of clown world.
They're taking their ball.
They're taking their resources.
They're taking their factories.
They're taking their money and they're leaving the global east and the global south.
are combining.
Well, we've got our guy up there.
At least Yeltsin, at least Yeltsin could finish a sentence.
At least Yeltsin could stay awake, if not stand up.
But we got, we got the vegetable.
Vegetable, Veggie Joe.
We got Veggie Joe.
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And they're friends of mine.
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Now, getting back to the news though, we do have breaking news that Hawaii officials have now begun requesting DNA samples From relatives of people missing in the Maui fires.
This is out of one hour ago.
Thousands of people are missing from wildfires that swept through Maui, prompting officials to ask for DNA samples to go through the remains.
The FBI's unaccounted list says there are 1,000 to 1,100 unidentified people missing as of Tuesday.
That's up from 850 the day before with already 104 DNA samples collected from family members.
Officials say they have little hope of identifying the remains.
Nearly three quarters of And this, I'm sorry, this is hard to say.
Nearly three quarters of the remains that have been tested DNA thus far have generated searchable DNA results.
Julie French, who is assisting in identifying the remains, said during a press conference on Tuesday.
We need family members to come forward and donate their samples so that we can compare them to these DNA profiles that we've already generated from remains.
And so, Ashley, Horrific as the story is, my takeaway, and tell me if you agree, they're talking about they've identified remains, but they can't actually identify who the people are that they've recovered.
Is that basically what your sense is here?
Different DNA signatures, but they can't actually identify the people because in many of these cases, they have no way to ID them.
No, and it's incredibly difficult to identify someone after a fire.
But it's a shame, Jack.
It's a shame that, of course, the Post Millennial's reporting on this.
But this should be all over every outlet, and it's just not.
Instead, I received a push notification from the New York Times on how a racist Instagram Destroyed a California school.
The media doesn't care and in fact there's a media blackout or at least there was in Maui and they just don't seem to care about one of the biggest tragedies.
We have a thousand missing people, a thousand people who can't be identified and they don't care.
Why do you suppose that is?
Because I can certainly remember when the Puerto Rico hurricane took place, I think it was Trump's first year in office or towards the beginning of his second year in office.
This was a huge story.
He was raked over the coals for the way that he was throwing paper towels out.
He was there, right?
He was there immediately throwing out supplies, handing out supplies.
I certainly remember the way they treated George Bush in the aftermath of Katrina.
Yet for some reason, We have the same situation.
Media just doesn't seem to care, which, oh by the way, just popped in my head that during Katrina, you had a governor, or a mayor down there rather, Mayor Ray Nagin, who actually refused to allow school buses to be let out of this basic area.
This was on their contingency plans for a hurricane.
They had plenty of time knowing that this thing was coming.
They didn't utilize school buses to evacuate people from the area.
That's one of the things that the government clearly could have done.
We later found out there was a ton of corruption.
He went I sure hope we uncover these things because it's evident that there was gross incompetence.
And the media is nothing more than an arm of the Democratic Party at this point.
We all know that.
Anyone denying that is just being dishonest.
But they're covering for their friends here.
A lot of these deaths could have been avoided had we not had Democratic leaders who are pushing wolf policies about preserving water and, you know, revering water here, or not putting out the sirens, not, you know, this is all could have been avoidable, many of these deaths.
And so when you were there as well, what was the sense on the ground that you were hearing?
I know you were going in and out of the airports, you were obviously there on vacation, had no idea that this was coming.
I'm not suggesting that Ashley St.
Clair is part of the Chinese directed energy operation against Hawaii, hashtag JK.
But in all seriousness, you were there, you were on the ground.
What was the mood?
What was the sense?
There was a lot of questions.
There was a lot of confusion.
Even the people of Hawaii and I was on a different island, but nobody really had answers.
But they had relatives, they had family, they had friends who were in Oahu, they were in Maui, and they still didn't have answers.
They were sitting there, as I said before, saying there's way more dead bodies than they're reporting in the media.
At that time, it was 80 dead bodies.
And they said, no, there's hundreds.
There's hundreds.
They're not telling us the full truth.
There's a lot of reports coming out about land grabs, about people getting offers that are way below the valuation for their properties.
There's reports about eviction notices.
And I really hope that the people of Maui don't just take these investors' money or whatever's going on here out of a place of desperation, because it seems there are, in most forms of tragedy, people who are going to come in and try to take advantage.
Thank you very much.
Well, that's exactly right.
These raiders, they're going into parts of Ukraine as well.
They're targeting children in Ukraine as they come out of the war-torn area.
They're targeting mothers with their kids.
We covered a lot of this with Tim Ballard from Sound of Freedom and others.
But, Ashley, when it comes to us as a country, what does it say that we're so focused on, and we covered at the top of the story this This aircraft downing outside of Moscow potentially this mercenary leader from from Russia was taken out We're in a proxy war with Russia and Ukraine were told that we have to send hundreds of billions of dollars We've got a debate later tonight.
We're going to be talking about there's an argument about Foreign aid, I'm sure, to Israel that's going to come up between Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy.
Yet, do you see any of these political leaders in the United States really focused on any of these issues that are actually facing directly actual Americans when you're talking about people who were incinerated with their entire family while the government stopped the road and blocked their only way out of town?
No, absolutely not.
And this is why, you know, Oliver Anthony's song, Richmond, North of Richmond, was so popular because the politicians don't really speak for us anymore.
They speak for themselves.
And even what they're doing by not covering this all over the media, it is horrific because they're not even giving the people an opportunity.
They're not even putting out messages about how we as people, as a collective, as communities can pitch in and help the people of Maui.
They're covering none of that.
That's exactly right.
We're told, you know, we're told, wear your next, you know, get your booster, wear your mask, you know, lock up, save lives.
And again, all of the mask mandates are coming back because people have the sniffles, bad case of the sniffles going around.
So we got to bring back the mask mandates.
Ashley, let me ask you this.
Are you going to comply?
Are you going to comply this time around?
Are you going for it or what?
Yeah, I'm going to get eight boosters.
I'm going to triple mask.
I can't get COVID, you know.
The comorbidity groups, I'm kidding.
I'm not gonna mask at all.
I really think everyone needs to reject this absurdity entirely.
Don't wear a mask.
Look, you might not be able to go to your favorite restaurant, you might have to drive instead of fly, but do not comply.
Stop complying with this.
This is why they're able to do it again, because they saw how quickly people were like, oh no, please, don't take away my restaurants, don't take away my movie theaters, and people just wore the masks and complied so that they could do everyday things.
That's exactly right.
So the same government that will let your family burn to death in a car is going to arrest you because you want to eat a meal without a mask on when you're sitting on an airplane?
No.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Not anymore.
I'm done.
I'm totally done. - No, Jack and I remember when I'm coming to LaGuardia at the peak of COVID and they kept asking for the COVID papers, the National Guard would run after me and I'd say, "No, thank you." And you know what?
They can't do anything.
So really people think that they have a lot more power than they do, but you don't have to comply with these things.
Take a stand.
We talk so much about Antifa tearing down the statues of our Founding Fathers, but so many of us don't even have a quarter of the coconuts that our Founding Fathers did.
We don't want to give up any of our comforts, any of our luxuries, to take a stand.
That's exactly right.
Look, the founding father, Ben Franklin, had the great quote, either we hang together or we shall hang separately.
And it's as simple as that.
I want mass non-compliance on this.
And by the way, whatever the first company is that comes out and says they're going to mandate this, whether it's Target, whether it's Walmart, whatever it is, We need to crush them like a Bud Light can.
We need to absolutely target that company and destroy their stock, destroy their name.
We're going to call them fake and gay.
We're going to do everything possible under the sun to take that company off the board.
I don't care if they're Fortune 500.
I don't care who they are.
We're going to say Uber, right?
You know Uber is going to be one of the big ones of this.
So, Ashley, what should you tell people?
If an Uber comes out and says you can't get in, remember they made you take a picture of yourself with the mask on?
Are you gonna do it?
No, absolutely not.
I'm not using Uber anyways for a variety of different reasons.
But what I can say is, look, if you're online, you're posting about me, you know, you're not complying, you're doing all these things, don't be a Kid Rock, right?
We saw Kid Rock, he was shooting Bud Light cans and then all of a sudden he was photographed with a Bud Light.
We will find out if you're actually masking up to go see your favorite movie.
Don't do it.
Don't comply.
God bless Ashley Sinclair.
And I gotta say, let's focus on signal, not noise.
The people of Maui deserve 100% accountability for what happened, what went wrong, and to the officials that blocked those roads, to the people who blocked the water, to the people who were not switching the energy grid and not maintaining the energy grid because they forced it to go green, they should all be in jail as far as I'm concerned.
Ashley, where can people follow you?
What I will say too, instead of shouting myself out, what I'm going to do is as soon as we end here, I'm going to pin a post to the top of my ex profile.
And this is a young girl who's going boots on the ground, helping people in Maui who need it.
She's bringing supplies to them.
So let's empower the people on the ground, the people who live there.
That's a good place to start.
So I'll pin that to the top of my ex profile at St.
Clair Ashley.
All right, at stclairashleyx.com.
I'm going to retweet that out.
We're going to get out to everyone.
Stay tuned.
a little preview of what to look for tonight in the debates when we come back. - I hear about the boring people at your office and trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Pozovic. - All right, Jack Pozovic back here live, Washington DC.
Now, while we've got assassinations in Moscow, we've got wildfires, a thousand missing, the FBI building a DNA database, we've also got a primary season and a presidential election, which really in many ways kicks off tonight with the first official debate of the evening, debate of the season.
It'll be coming out later tonight around 9 p.m.
Eastern.
We know that President Trump, the frontrunner, will not be attending.
However, many others will be attending.
And so to kind of handicap the race for us, tell us what to look for tonight.
I wanted to bring on Garrett Ventry.
He is a longtime Republican strategist as well as a formerly advisor to Senator Chuck Grassley, a guy who knows Iowa in and out as well as knows the primary electorate in and out.
Garrett, thank you so much for joining us.
Thanks for having me, Jack.
Good to be with you.
So tell me what, and just that basically, what's the handicap?
What are you going to be looking for tonight?
What do the candidates need?
Obviously, none of them have really had any breakout moment until this point in the debate.
So to me, I guess the sense is, is this going to be a free-for-all battle royale where everybody's basically just gunning to take each other out?
Or do you think any of them are able to have a moment on this stage that actually, which they're all hoping for, I'm sure, springboards them into direct contention with Donald Trump?
Yeah, I would say, I mean, the elephant that's technically not in the room is Donald Trump, right?
He's essentially dominated this entire primary here.
He's winning in most polls by 30, 40, sometimes 50 points.
And so that's obviously going to suck up a lot of oxygen in the room.
I think there'll still be questions about him, even though he won't be there.
The question is, obviously, In a primary like 2016 or 2012 or 2008 where there's a battle and it's a much closer battle where you're talking about, you know, the front runners at 20 percent, second places at 13 percent, something like this matters here.
But because Trump's at 50, 60 percent, it's just really tough for these candidates to break through.
I would watch Ron DeSantis really has been slipping in the polls, so he needs to have a big night here.
He's going to have to fend off Vivek, obviously, who's been surging in the polls.
He's going to have to potentially fend off Chris Christie, who's known to come after people like Marco Rubio.
We've saw him effectively do that in the New Hampshire debate in 2016.
So that's something to keep an eye on as well.
And then you've got people like, you know, this never Trump lane is just so small, Jack, right?
You've got Pence, Asa Hutchinson, Christie's in that lane.
It's only four or five percent of the vote.
And no one has really been able to show even Vivek DeSantis that they've been able to pull from Donald Trump.
Vivek has really pulled from Ron DeSantis here.
You know, we'll see what happens here.
It's going to be a big moment for these guys because they're going to have 15, 20 million views on them for the first time.
And so obviously having a big moment here is going to matter.
But Donald Trump is certainly going to loom large over the debate.
What do you make of this campaign right now that I've noticed it seems like, and I'm sure you're getting hit up with it as well, the oppo research files are gunning, the canon salvos popping off on Vivek Ramaswamy, bringing up things, you know, stuff that I even brought up when he first announced that he's addressed in many ways and other ways.
People are bringing up, oh, is he tied to Soros?
Is he tied to the World Economic Forum?
But it really seems that just in this past week, that suddenly there's been a huge circling of the guns pointed at Vivek Ramasamy.
Are you seeing that as well?
Absolutely.
I mean, he went from somebody that, you know, nobody really even knew he was.
He was pulling at zero percent when he entered the race.
I think a lot of people thought it was a joke to maybe sell books when he got in the race.
And he's clearly resonated with some voters here.
But yeah, it shows you when you rise in the polls here, you start to take fire.
We saw that with DeSantis at the beginning.
You know, you've seen this in 2016 when Marco Rubio started to surge a little bit.
A lot of folks, nice came out for him.
Bad stories come out of him.
Same thing with Cruz and others.
Ben Carson in 2016.
So I think it just shows that he's really having a moment here and he's chipping away and has run a strong race here.
And he's done it in a way, I think you've seen here, in a way that has not attacked Donald Trump.
Most folks think that that's the strategy to apparently gain voters.
But when he's the most popular figure in the Republican Party, it's hard to attack him.
Most voters in an NBC poll said The thing that turns them off the most is when someone attacks Donald Trump.
So the Vex certainly made a case.
He's had a lot of interesting ideas and I think the firepower is out for him because he's having a moment right now.
We'll see how he does this really in the debate because that's going to obviously be a big question for him.
Now when you're looking at the debates and really just the race in general, How is it that a guy named Vivek Ramaswamy, who's never set foot in politics ever before, he's 38 years old, he just turned 38, he posts videos of himself playing tennis shirtless when he's in the midst of all this controversy, and he's doing burpees, I guess, with his wife, and you got a guy like that.
Yeah, I think a lot of these guys are missing the moment, right?
This is a party that is dominated by not only Trump, but his policies, right?
Everybody who's talking about building the wall.
Everybody who's talking about illegal immigration.
every poll that I've seen is beating a former vice president of the United States.
How did we get here?
Yeah, I think a lot of these guys are missing the moment, right?
This is a party that is dominated by not only Trump, but his policies, right?
Everybody who's talking about building the wall, everybody who's talking about illegal immigration, everybody who's talking about going after big tech, everybody who's talking about being tough on China.
Those ideas came from Donald Trump, right?
These were ideas that Republican candidates in 2012 and even going into 2016 were not talking about.
You look at trade specifically, right, Jack?
So those are things I think that Vivek has tapped into.
He's really gone with a lot of Trump policies.
He's not criticized President Trump.
I think he's also been willing to do interviews with hostile media.
He's been willing to go out there and address voters.
And he's been able to say a lot of things that voters agree with.
So I think that's the smart move here.
Pence and others, I mean, Pence launched his entire campaign on January 6.
I mean, it's apparently he didn't pay attention to the Wyoming primary, where Liz Cheney was essentially erased by, what, 50 points in that primary?
So running on that Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney lane just doesn't exist anymore.
So people who think they can do that, like Christie, like Pence, there's just really not an appetite for those folks in the Republican base right now.
So I think Vivek has been smart to talk about the issues that Republican voters care about, to get creative and really hit the airwaves.
So we'll see how he performs tonight.
Obviously, a lot of knives are going to be out for him.
And something I think also that could potentially be a question to look for tonight is that more so than the bigger, the larger element of the room of Trump not being there is the fact that no one in this race has articulately, or at least to my knowledge, explained or at least to my knowledge, explained how it is that they plan to actually beat Trump And we've heard these leaks saying that, oh, the indictments will come, the indictments will destroy Trump's standing,
With the primary, they'll destroy him in the general, and yet poll after poll shows not only have the indictments solidified his lead in the primary, but actually as the indictments have become more and more ridiculous as they've continued, he's actually trending to neck and neck with Biden in national polls that we never saw levels like this in all of 2020.
So do you think that Well, again, it goes back to, like, he is a very unstoppable force right now in the Republican primary.
And you've seen over the years, any Republican who has successfully taken on Donald Trump, there is a graveyard of politicians who have taken on Donald Trump, right?
From primary races to the presidential in 2016, you're even seeing this.
Ron DeSantis went from a very popular governor as a rising star.
To someone who's essentially just been eaten over and over again by Donald Trump in this primary, and we've seen his polls sink because of that.
I do think it's going to be tough for them to communicate that.
And now I think an interesting thing, Jack, you point out is the indictments.
You know, it's like 2016, 2017 all over again, 2018, the walls are closing in on Trump with Russia, the hoax we know there.
Donald Trump just survives these things over and over again, and then really becomes even more popular because of them.
We've seen this in the indictments.
But I think you dig into the polling.
It's very interesting.
New York Times had a poll that came out recently.
It showed Biden and Trump neck and neck, 43-43, which means Trump is probably up even more.
As you and I know, Trump outperforms a lot of these polls.
But in there, I found something very interesting.
Republican voters, by a 30 point margin, believe Donald Trump is the best candidate to defeat Joe Biden.
And they have a lot of reason to think that.
Not only, again, does he match up strongly with Joe Biden in these polls, but if you dig into the numbers, Donald Trump Against Joe Biden, non-white voters I think is a really interesting trend that's going towards Donald Trump.
Obama in 2012 won non-white voters by I think it was about 67 points.
Biden in 2020 won by over 40 points and right now he's only leading Trump by 16 points.
The second part of it is if you look at the Rust Belt states, the key states to win the presidency really, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan.
Again, very key states that you need to win the presidency.
Donald Trump is beating Joe Biden in a recent Rust Belt poll by seven points.
DeSantis is losing to Biden by three points.
So again, Trump's electability is not some talking point.
There is hardcore data to prove that he is not only dominating this GOP primary, but is the toughest challenger to Joe Biden.
And so again, it's just going to be very tough for these candidates to make that case when voters poll after poll.
And we see the energy to just trust Donald Trump in this primary.
Well, Garrett, I think it's exactly right.
I've got about a minute here until break, but there's something that I keep articulating and driving home to folks, and that's when we're talking about the general election, that you have to have a national brand.
You cannot be a candidate that only appeals to one area of the country.
So a candidate that is at full appeal in the Sun Belt or the Bible Belt is not the same type of candidate that is going to play in the Rust Belt, and you have to have the ability to be, I sort of made a joke yesterday, but you gotta be McDonald's, right?
You gotta be McDonald's.
You have to have national appeal.
And if you go all in on one of these regions, they may love you and you can run up the score there, but you're not gonna have the broad-based appeal.
This is what McCain and Romney found out.
This is what Trump flipped in 2016.
Stay tuned, last segment coming up. - I'm always listening to "Human Events" with Jack Posobiec. - All right, Jack Posobiec back here live, Washington, DC, "Human Events." Debate night is coming up.
Garrett Ventry is with us.
He's a Republican strategist, former advisor to Grassley.
Now, Garrett, you were walking through in the last segment, you made a point that you said that Trump is up with the Rust Belt against Biden.
Let me ask you this question, though.
How do the other candidates fare against Biden with some of these areas?
Because we've seen that with the Republican map right now, you need to win at least one of these Rust Belt states.
You need Ohio, that's for sure, but people forget Obama won Ohio, right?
Ohio was an Obama state, but you definitely need at least Wisconsin or Michigan.
Pennsylvania, my home state, it's Tantalizing!
But, you know, sometimes a little bit out of grasp.
But you absolutely need Wisconsin or Michigan.
And, you know, probably I think Wisconsin is closest than you have in the Sun Belt, Georgia and Arizona are absolute must-wins.
So, which is the candidate?
And that's really the only question that I have.
It's chestnut checkers.
Who is the candidate that is most likely to win?
How did these other candidates stack up there?
Yeah, I think it's very interesting.
Again, the Rust Belt Poll, I was pointing out, Fox and Friends First did a recent segment on this, and I thought it was really interesting because, again, DeSantis is losing by three to Biden there, and Trump is winning by seven in those key four states we've talked about, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
I think like I said, you see a lot of these candidates, Nikki Haley, DeSantis particularly, make this argument, Tim Scott as well.
that they're the best candidate to beat Joe Biden.
A recent Fox News poll, Donald Trump is the only one in the margin of error.
Haley, Scott, DeSantis, they're losing by five, six, seven points in those polls in a head-to-head national poll on Fox.
And so, again, these arguments are just not proven by data.
Donald Trump is not only the strongest on the issues, the most popular in our party right now, but again, head-to-head with Joe Biden, he matches up the most strongly.
Well, and what is it about these candidates – Because this is the same kind of narrative I remember hearing from like, like Rubio, from Romney, from McCain.
It's, oh, we can go back to the suburbs.
We can go back to the suburbs.
But, you know, when you go around in the suburbs, especially suburban moms, and, you know, I see it's, it's, it's, you see the, you know, hate has no home here.
Refugees, welcome.
Let's all go get vaccinated.
Let's all go get boosters.
Versus you got a guy like Trump.
He appeals to this, you know, the Oliver Anthonys out there, the NASCAR dads out there.
He doesn't care about the rich men nor the rich men.
He's the kind of guy that wants to go for that vote.
Appalachia, the Piedmont, these types that are absolutely swingable in the Rust Belt.
No, absolutely.
I think you're 100% right.
And you're seeing Trump builds a different coalition.
Again, you're seeing Hispanic voters flock to him.
You're seeing non-white voters flock to him.
It's a very interesting thing.
Donald Trump has really made this populist movement come home to him and really built that out in the Republican Party.
I also think suburban moms, it's very interesting when you have, you know, issues to deal with transgenderism in school right now being pushed on their kids.
When you have high inflation with, you know, on groceries, on gas, mortgage rates are up.
More people are in credit card debt than they've ever been.
More people are drawing from their 401ks than they ever have.
And if you compare the Trump economy to the Biden economy, we can actually look at that.
We can look at how good the economy was and how good people's finances were under Donald Trump.
We can look at even just across the globe.
We were at peace.
We weren't at war.
Russia was not invading Ukraine.
Afghanistan wasn't toppled by the Taliban.
Border crossings were down compared to where they are now.
And so the record that Joe Biden has compared to Donald Trump, we can actually compare it.
We don't have to make promises here.
Donald Trump made promises during his four years as president.
He kept those promises from appointing Supreme Court justices to getting illegal immigration under control, to building the economy, to trying to solve international crisis.
He did all those things.
And so we can actually compare that to Joe Biden's record, which is weak, which has ruined really our economy here.
It's destroyed the middle class.
It's lit our world on fire.
And so, again, when we compare those two in the suburbs, even I think Donald Trump will perform very strongly there.
I think that's right, and we're hearing, of course, that in, you know, just looking ahead at the debate, there's a new piece out by Shane Goldmacher, Ron DeSantis, livid on the Super PAC memo falling out tonight, and really that his mission, his top line, is that he must prove that he is still the top Trump alternative.
Do you really think that DeSantis has a chance left, or is tonight his last stand?
Well, I think we've seen him moving into Jeb Bush, Scott Walker territory, right?
Both those candidates started really hot.
They had a super PAC, Jeb specifically with, you know, 90 million, 100 million dollars.
They had all the infrastructure, the D.C.
consulting class.
They had a lot of the media talking about them, a lot of energy there.
I just do not think I think when you're Ron DeSantis, you were talking about competing with Trump right at the beginning.
Right.
That was that was the goal.
Now you're talking about making sure Vivek, who is an unknown name, You know, that he can hold him off, and there's polls that are showing that Vivek is beating him.
So, again, I think Ron DeSantis, he was a pretty good governor.
He did a great job in Florida.
He's a presidential candidate against Donald Trump.
He has not been able to swing close.
He's way out of his league here.
He's, again, playing probably single A or double A ball at best, and Donald Trump's in the major leagues in this situation politically here.
So I think Ron's, you know, he's on life support with this campaign here, and he's going to have to have a big debate here.
and show that it is a two-person race.
But right now, it's really not even a two-person race.
It is a one-person race.
Donald Trump is up, again, 37, 40 points.
And this has been a consistent theme for the last two or three months, really, even longer than that.
Then if you look at the early states, South Carolina, New Hampshire, he is Iowa as well.
He's dominating 25, 30 points in those states that are supposed to be winnable states to get momentum.
So again, I think it's going to be really tough for Ron DeSantis or anyone to break through against Trump.
No, I agree with you.
No, I agree with you.
And just like any of these players, if you know anything about Major League Baseball, you take one of these players, you bring up – sometimes you go up to – I tweeted this.
And just like any of these players, if you know anything about Major League Baseball, you take one of these players, you bring up some...
Sometimes you go up to...
I tweeted this.
It's funny you make the analogy.
It's funny you make the analogy.
Maybe you saw me referring to my tweet.
Maybe somebody referring to my tweet.
But you bring these guys up to the majors too early.
But you bring these guys up to the majors too early, and even if they've – there's always – every year the scouts find there's that one guy, right?
And even if they've...
There's always...
Every year, the scouts find there's that one guy, right?
There's that one prospect who he's – his statistics are great.
He's hitting everything.
He's catching everything.
He's running great.
But then he goes up to the majors, and it's like the lights are too bright.
The spotlight is too intense.
The crowd is too loud.
The stress is too high.
And something just breaks.
And then you take a guy like that, and you think, okay, do we move them back to the minors?
But then even when you do, that has a psychological impact, that has an impact on your energy, on your spirit, and it's very hard to go back and forth.
And unfortunately for many of these players, it breaks what could have been otherwise an incredible and stellar career.
Last minute, Gareth Petri.
Yeah, absolutely.
I 100 percent agree with you again.
I think Ron had a, you know, did a good job during Florida, during lockdowns.
A lot of people appreciated what he did.
But again, I think he just missed the mark here that this is a party that is still dominated by Donald Trump.
Look at the polling.
Look at the energy.
Not many other people can get, you know, three, four, five, six, seven thousand people in an arena.
There's really no other candidate that can do that.
Joe Biden certainly can't do it.
And nobody in this Republican primary is coming close to that.
So it's energy and polling.
And so, again, I think he's missed the moment here.
And I think this is a time with the indictments happening against President Trump, the weaponization we're seeing there.
It is a time for Republicans to hopefully unite around Donald Trump, because we need to defeat Joe Biden and take our country back at this point.
It's a very dicey situation there, so we definitely need Trump back.
Amen.
Appreciate the time, Gary Venturi.
Go follow him on Twitter.
Fantastic analysis, folks.
You know what would be great?
These candidates, you want to do something that's right for the country?
