Aug. 15, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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EPISODE 539: TRUMP INDICTMENTS BACKFIRE, INDEPENDENTS NOW PREFER TRUMP TO BIDEN AND DESANTIS
On today’s must see episode of Human Events, Jack Posobiec is joined by the People’s Pundit, Richard Baris and Attorney Mike Davis to discuss the latest indictment against President Trump. Have the indictments backfired? Rich Baris provides the latest polling data with Independent voters and the results may shock you. Poso dives deep into the case against Trump levied by the Fulton County DA, Fani Willis and the motivations for the charges dropped against President Trump. Poso also dissects t...
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The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
I am giving the defendants the opportunity to voluntarily surrender no later than noon on Friday.
Fancy meeting you.
Oh, I can't believe this.
Yeah, this is not the circumstances in which I expected to be talking to you.
Nor me, Rachel.
It's not just Trump's name is on this, but it's the others that are on this.
And so we've got Donald John Trump, Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Mark Meadows, Ken Cheeseborough, Jeffrey Clark, that's the former Justice Department official, Jenna Ellis, the Trump attorney, Ray Smith, another attorney, Robert Cheely, Mike Roman, another attorney, Robert Cheely, Mike Roman, and David James Schaefer.
Isn't it terrible that a political opponent, though, can haphazardly charge you with a fake crime in the middle of your campaign in order to interfere with your time, your money, your message, and there is nothing you can do in theory to stop this travesty of justice?
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Today is August 15th, 2023.
Anno Domini.
Today is the Feast of the Assumption.
You know, Fannie Willis, we gotta ask her questions.
Gotta ask a lot of questions about Fannie Willis right now.
Fannie, what did they promise you?
What did they promise you in exchange for all of this?
What did you have to sign over?
Did they promise you a seat on the Georgia Supreme Court?
Did they promise you a run for Congress?
A seat in that membership?
Did they promise you that you'd be the next Stacey Abrams running for governor?
Did they promise you the stars?
Did they promise you the heavens, Fannie?
Because I gotta tell you, Go look at Kim Gardner.
She was the last one they tried this with.
They got what they could out of Kim Gardner.
Indictments on Greitens.
Indictments on the McCluskeys.
Investigation after investigation.
But eventually, she ran into a brick wall known as reality.
And not only did she have to resign as DA, Kim Gardner, She lost her license completely, and she's now in nursing school.
So, I say this to you, Fannie Willis.
You gotta, you gotta think for yourself.
What's in it for you?
Guys, we have a clip, by the way, of Fannie Willis last night.
Can we, can we roll the Fannie?
Roll the Fannie, boys.
The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
I am giving the You guys hear that?
Just despicable.
Just absolutely.
I think we need to roll that again.
Can we roll that again?
Just horrific what our republic has come to.
Roll that again, boys.
The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
I am giving the This is dangerous.
This is unsafe.
This is uncharted territories that we're in.
Where they say, Donald J. Trump urged people to watch One American News.
That Donald Trump was tweeting while he was watching it.
That David Schaffer was reserving a room.
Mark Meadows offered to... Oh my gosh!
Oh my gosh, he offered to pay for signature matching.
Let me tell you something, folks.
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
The Georgia state legislature, both houses are controlled by Republicans.
The Georgia governorship is controlled by a governor, a dry Republican governor, and they won't lift a finger to stop any of this.
They could stop right now if they wanted to.
The same way that they could have verified those signatures, and they refused to.
They refused to, they dragged their feet, Mark Meadows put in, and they decided to charge him for doing that.
Are you paying attention yet, folks?
It isn't about the enemy at the gates.
It's about the traitors in your midst.
And we've got people like Fannie Willis running these dangerous, dangerous schemes.
And I pray for her.
I pray for our Republic.
I pray for everyone.
That when it all comes crashing down around them, that they'll be able to find something to be able to hold on to.
I really do.
And that's the Christian in me that just wants people to do well.
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Now, I want to bring in our next guest very quickly here, Richard Barris.
But first, I want to make sure that he heard everything that Fannie Willis was up to last night.
So, folks, we're going to have to play this clip again to make sure that Richard Barris gets to hear the full thing.
Guys, go ahead, play the Fannie again.
Hit the Fannie.
The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
I am giving the... Richard Barris, welcome to Human Events.
Thanks for having me as always, brother.
How you doing?
Now, when I see things like this, these dangerous actions, this dangerous state of our complete banana republic that we're in, you know, Charlie Kirk posted something earlier today.
He said, a donor reached out to me and said, I was told, or I thought, I should say, that all of these indictments, when they came, and we all knew that these were coming, now they've come, now they're here.
That they would sink Trump in the polls, and yet Trump is up 40 points, 50 points in some early states.
What went wrong with their thinking?
And also, by the way, to add to it, this civics poll that just dropped this morning with independents, Trump, so Trump, DeSantis, Biden, it has Trump running ahead of DeSantis and Biden when it comes to independents.
So Trump net negative 17, DeSantis net negative 26, Biden net negative 37.
That's favorability.
So when we're talking, so 37, 31, 28 respectively for those Trump is the leading candidate with independence right now, according to Civics.
Why was the donor math, or the donor analysis at least, so completely wrong when looking at the effects of these indictments on this primary?
Jack, I think that those are two separate questions, but the answer overlaps, right?
And it's amazing to me how I have to explain this to other leaders.
It's very simple why these voters aren't abandoning Donald Trump.
If a leader doesn't abandon the people who have entrusted him to lead and represent them, The people won't abandon him or her.
It's a very simple, you know, human nature rule.
You know, I mean, when the leader betrays those people, then they will abandon him.
And I find it just astonishing.
That I have to explain this so simple of an idea to other leaders.
So if you did what he did for your people, for your constituents, they wouldn't abandon you either.
But they don't.
They do what's expedient.
They do what they feel the system, Washington, the media want them to do often.
And that's why they don't get the loyalty that he has.
When it comes to independence, again, I, you know, I've been on the show so much, we've been talking about this.
I think a lot of this is baked into the cake and there's not universal understanding that there are crimes being committed, right?
So if you bring a bribery or corruption charge against Joe Biden, it's such an easy, very point A to point B. This is what Biden did wrong.
He sold U.S.
foreign policy.
He took bribes through his, you know, his bag handling son.
That's a simple thing.
And then universally, people on the left, scholars on the left, on the right will say, yeah, that's a crime.
Here with Donald Trump, what it looks like is not a simple point A to point B. I see the fact pattern.
This is a crime.
This looks like a system trying to take down an opponent.
And these indictments were all baked into the cake.
And Charlie talks to a lot of the same donors, I think, that we are talking to.
And we're all hearing the same thing.
The bottom line is they were told that that January 6th indictment was their pun intended Trump card.
And that one was going to be the one that hurt him and the others would just serve as a pile on.
They were so foolish here.
They were so foolish here, Jack.
So foolish.
I mean, they just don't understand not only the Republican electorate, but as you can see with these polls, they don't understand people.
Look, I said this to Perusa Fazda earlier today, and I said, look, I come from the Philly area, right?
about people and this is why we're in a point in our history where people just feel like they're not represented look i i said this to uh perusa faz that earlier today and i said look i i come from the philly area right um if you go up to an eagles fan and you tell them to put on a steelers jersey you could sit there and say oh they got a better quarterback and uh you know they've got a track record and they've got championships and they're a lock for the super
and the statistics say this, this, and this, You're lucky that if you end that interaction after telling an Eagles fan to put on a Steelers jersey, you're lucky if you end that interaction with just getting cursed out in your face and not a couple of punches, elbows, or, you know, potentially like tire iron swung at your head.
Okay, this is what we're talking about here, right?
That is the direct emotional connection that, whether the donors like it or not, that this group of people has with Donald Trump.
That being said, I think you're right, because I think there's a huge element here, and you can call them the Joe Rogan audience, Barstool conservatives, this sort of center-middle, they're listening to Huberman Labs, they're listening to a lot of YouTube, a lot of podcasts, but they're not exactly following political news, they're not junkies like you and I are every day.
They should be, they might know what's going on in this world, but I digress.
I think that's where a lot of the independents are these days, and those people are looking at Biden saying, this guy's spoiled, he's spoiled rotten, and they look at Trump and say they're doing everything they can to get rid of him rather than actually stand up and face the music for their own actions.
Does that make sense?
Does my thesis bear fruit?
Do you believe?
It does.
I mean, he looks like a crook to the average person.
And yeah, that center left person, too, I think is an important part of this equation.
Because I wouldn't put Joe Rogan on the right, no matter what the media says.
I wouldn't put Tim Poole on the right.
But if you watch Tim Poole, he's terrified.
He's disgusted by what's going on.
So, I mean, anyone, and Joe Rogan said it the other day, said it last week, you're not critically thinking if you don't see the big picture here.
So that leaves them jacked with their partisans.
And when it comes to the independents in this argument, most independents have a lean one way or the other.
And for a long time, Ron DeSantis was kind of coasting on this.
Uh, you know, this high of being a reelected governor and a chunk still didn't really know who he was.
I have to explain to people who live in Florida, your governor is not the most known person in the country.
So it took some time.
And as they got to know him, the more they did, the least they liked him.
And even those independents who lean Republican, uh, certainly do not support these indictments against Donald Trump.
And when you see somebody, an ambitious somebody, trying to essentially work within this system that is dirty to take Trump out, it puts DeSantis in the basket with the other rotten eggs, brother. it puts DeSantis in the basket with the other rotten That's what's happening.
Well, and not only that, so this is the two islands theory that we've talked about, Tyler Boyer was talking about this, but also, and I think we've been seeing something, this bears out in sort of the Iowa versus New Hampshire polling, where DeSantis is polling much higher in Iowa, sinking like a rock in New Hampshire, he's down to several digits.
And we saw this again with, we saw this with Huckabee, we saw this with Cruz, we saw this with Santorum, that they moved so far socially on the right, or played so far to that audience to try to win Iowa.
They end up winning Iowa, but then it ends up hurting them with the Granite State hurting them in the Rust Belt.
Are you seeing that same, that same tack play out with DeSantis when we look at some of these independent numbers?
Without a doubt.
And by the way, he probably won't even win Iowa.
So all those other candidates we just rattled off had a better chance of pulling off an upset in Iowa than Ron DeSantis does.
The problem DeSantis has and the people who are all aligned with DeSantis is that Evangelicals are not in their own category this time, Jack.
Normally, they vote differently than non-evangelicals.
Right now, in our last Iowa poll, the lead Trump had among evangelicals is about the same as the lead he had among non-evangelicals.
The reason is very simple.
When we ask them, what is your priority for voting?
When you are choosing who to caucus for, why are you doing it?
The social issues that they forced, you know, that the Bob Vander Plaats and the Steve Deases and others forced Ron DeSantis, and again, he got that advice from his consultants.
Those issues are not high in the minds of evangelicals.
I think the last poll we did, about 17% of evangelicals said that that is what they were voting on.
And by the way, Trump still led with them.
He just led by a smaller margin.
For them this time, it's the deep state defeating Biden and addressing the administrative state and the economy.
and the economy.
So on both of those metrics-- - Rich, are you saying it's-- - Trump wins it.
- Are you saying it's the rich men north of Richmond? - - Yeah.
- Because, you know, yes.
- Great insight that I haven't heard anyone else say about Oliver Anthony's song.
You know what he doesn't talk about in that song?
He doesn't talk about wokeness, he doesn't talk about transgender, he doesn't talk about LGBT agenda, and I'm not saying those things don't matter, I'm saying there's a thing called Maslow's Hierarchy.
And if you understand Maslow's Hierarchy, if people can't afford to eat, if they can't afford basic shelter, those interests are going to come You talk about influences.
are going to move people first.
Stay tuned.
We're coming back with more from the People's Pundit, really the People's Pollster too, by the way, Richard Barris, joining us here at Human Events to walk through how the news that we've seen lately is affecting the numbers with independence across this great nation.
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And guys, just again, because I know we've got some people that are just tuning in, I want to make sure that we're all very focused on what it is that we're up against here in America today.
So we're gonna have to hit the fanny again.
Hit the fanny, boys.
The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
I am giving the Just absolutely horrific, the danger, the lack of safety that she is perpetuating for her own house and the government.
Rich Beyers, I want to come back in here now.
We're looking at these numbers.
Walk me through, right, walk me through again this disconnect between donors, The strategist behind DeSantis, which is really largely donor-driven, I think we all realize that now.
There's a certain clique of high-dollar donors that decided to astroturf this campaign.
And then also this lack of connection that he's been unable to make on the campaign trail.
We saw this in Iowa where Trump literally shadowed over him at one point with his airplane.
Multiple airplanes actually.
That was one of the most embarrassing.
That was up there with the police clap moment, if you really want to be honest.
Here he is coming overhead.
There were already people in the crowd with Trump signs.
I mean, he was being heckled, but when people leave your event in the middle of you speaking to go greet another candidate, you're obviously not close to overtaking that candidate or drawing the loyalty or Or the inspiration that the other one is drawing.
So, you know, one of the biggest things I heard, I heard this a lot from donors who would like get their pitch and then try to relay it.
And really, I would always say, are you trying to convince me or are you trying to convince yourself that that makes sense?
Because it doesn't.
But one of the big things is that his lack of personal connection.
He can't connect with voters because he's not very likable.
He's not a good retail politician.
He's an awkward dude and anyone who's ever met him knows that.
And they would say, but he's so smart and he's going to charm the voters with his knowledge of policy and seriousness.
And it just would make me laugh because I actually had several people tell me, Um, that he's so smart, it's our fault that we can't understand him and we don't understand where he's coming from.
And if you don't see it, even though he's, you know, hat brown, like so smart on the spectrum, smart, you know, I'm thinking, what are you talking about?
That isn't a good quality to have.
If you running for president, if you want to be a presidential candidate, this is nuts.
Uh, but that's what appealed to them, Jack.
It doesn't speaking to everyday people is not a priority for them.
And then the other one that we heard a lot about.
Is that they really thought that even if, you know, he won in a bitter battle, that the Trump voter would vote for him at the end of the day.
Their newest, newest argument is we will get the Trump voters to vote for us because we're essentially going to try to blackmail them.
Or extort them, however you want to view it.
If you don't vote for me, we're removing Trump from the ballot because of these things.
And if you don't like it, you have no choice but to vote for me because I'll pardon Trump when I get in.
But if you don't vote for me, Biden will win and he'll spend the rest of his life in jail.
This is how they view people.
Like you're going to play chicken with the voter like that or something.
I'm telling you Jack, this has got to come to a head eventually.
I don't think people like being treated that way.
I just don't.
Let's curve, though, now.
Let's curve, though, then, and let's talk general, because let's say, okay, and I think everybody, you know, the betting markets are there.
People seem to think Trump's got this locked up, so let's put that aside.
Let's table it and say Trump wins the nomination.
This this gauntlet that they're putting Trump through trials that will be going on sometimes it looks like they're even overlapping in terms of some of these trials going on during the primaries during the caucuses.
Obviously, this has never happened before in American history, but if you can, what do you think happens if he wins the nomination?
Because I think there's some that say, OK, he's got the nomination.
That'll be in August in Milwaukee at the convention.
Let's say he wins that.
You know, they try to contest it.
It doesn't work.
Now we go into the general.
How does this play out when you've got a man standing trial while he's also running up against an incumbent president?
I, we haven't been here before, so it's hard for me to honestly speak with authority on this and anyone being honest would claim the same.
However, I think that some fundamentals exist here.
Americans like an underdog.
They don't like being told what they can and cannot do or who they can and cannot support, and that will work in Trump's favor along with the record, especially if there's economic hardship going forward in that final year, which a lot of projections suggest the economy can be in a very bad way.
We have to think of it like this.
Whomever the Republican nominee is, Joe Biden, of course, and it's not just Joe Biden, the administrative state, the status quo power will be difficult to beat, even though Trump is leading in our polls.
That being said, I mean, I'm getting more confident about this every day that passes.
Even with all of that, he still is the one who has the best chance of winning.
It's really that simple.
Because you could lose in a narrow election like he's done, or you could get killed.
That's the unfair balance that Republicans face.
In this modern electoral world, in this map that we look at every day.
And if you keep the Trump voter home because you did something to prevent him from winning the nomination, he's well into a majority now, Jack.
I mean, they're doing all of this to try to subvert the will of the majority.
He's well into a majority.
If you do that, there will be blowback.
And all of those headlines you saw on The Hill and The Washington Post over the weekend, with some people expressing concern there will be A depression in turnout.
I'm here to tell you, it's real.
You will lose 15 to 20 percent of his vote.
You will get killed.
Democrats will harvest 85 million votes, maybe more, and you will get stomped.
Mitt Romney got about 60 million votes, folks.
That's it.
That's all.
And without Donald Trump, you're going to go right back down to those territories.
You'll probably lose Ohio, Iowa.
Remember, when John McCain lost, he lost Indiana, and Obama was nipping on the heels of him in Missouri.
He almost lost the Show Me State, Jack, which Trump wins overwhelmingly, right?
So this is real.
They will protest.
They will stay home.
And I bet, well, I'll save that because in our next national, we're actually going to measure how many people would
Which by the way, The Hill, you know, and I have to double down on that, you mentioned it for a second there, but don't bury the lead, because The Hill had the article this week that had the thesis that you've been putting out every single time I have you on, that Republicans face a turnout disaster if Donald Trump is not on the ticket.
You're facing a defeat.
The size and scope of something we haven't seen since like Reagan beat Carter or, I'm not even kidding folks, it would look like that.
Republicans would hold the reddest of the red states and they would lose every single battleground state.
Maybe because DeSantis is a home state governor.
Maybe, you know, if it was him, he could hold on to Florida, but it would be a total wipeout.
People are mad and it's about time for the donor class to get their heads out of their butts.
Unless they just don't want.
I'm talking about a defeat that puts into question the viability of the Republican Party as a national political force.
This has happened before.
I remember every Democrat that I know used to say that to me in the McCain years and the Romney years.
This was the refrain.
The Republicans are going to become a regional party.
You're going to be a southern party.
Maybe some parts of the Midwest.
That's what they were saying all along through the Obama years, that the Republicans cannot play anymore.
They do not have the ability to reach out.
That's when Donald Trump came in and he remade the map.
We would not be looking at the map we are right now if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
And I hear what you're saying there as well, that without him, it reverts back.
Because none of these other Republicans have been able to show that they can fit into the mold that he built.
That's exactly right.
They'll keep chasing the fake swing suburban woman voter, which is not the swing voter anymore.
That's not even a swing voter.
That voter has been a trending Democrat voter and it will remain so.
Until some kind of economic calamity or something happens.
You could always make inroads with them, but we are long past the days of the 04 national security moms.
They are gone.
Issue 1 in Ohio should have been a wake-up call for Republicans.
They lost the Northeast.
All throughout Trumbull, Mahoning, they got cream there.
And why?
That's Obama country.
In 08 and in 12, when he beat Romney, that was all Obama country.
Gerard Brown is still, to this day, polling in the lead in that area.
It's also where Donald Trump wins.
He pushes that coalition, boxes Democrats all the way up into Cuyahoga County in the Northeast, and in the Northwest, it boxes them from Woods all the way up into Toledo, the inner cities.
One minute left, Rich.
Tell us what you're working on.
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We're going to do, obviously, the nomination again.
We're going to do the head-to-heads, the general stuff, but we're also asking a couple of questions which are, you know, they're spicy, Jack, but we want to know what lengths, we're seeing all these indictments, we want to know what lengths certain voters are willing to go to, you know, in the name of power in this country.
And, of course, we have to ask it on both sides.
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But is it okay with you to persecute political opponents?
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We're going to bring in Mike Davis here, but I want to just kind of reset the conversation, guys.
I know we've been talking about polling a lot, but we really need to focus on these indictments, specifically from Fannie Willis in Georgia, Fulton County, Georgia.
And there was a short clip of her earlier, you know, before the show, late last night, I should say, where something very brief but important came out.
Let's hit the Fannie, boys.
The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
I am giving the All right, Mike Davis, Article 3 Project joins us now.
Mike, walk us through how should Republicans look at charges like this?
A RICO investigation going on in the middle of a primary.
You've read the document.
I actually read all 98 pages last night.
I thought it was ridiculous.
Walk me through, though.
What's the process look like from here?
I always say this indictment is loud.
It's long and it's lawless.
It is ridiculous what she's charging here.
She's bringing a organized crime conspiracy indictment that you would bring against the mob, against President Trump and his lawyers and his top advisors for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and twisting arms Politically, which is allowed by the First Amendment.
You and I have been talking about this for a year, Jack, since the unprecedented, unnecessary, unlawful home raid on President Trump last August for the non-crime of a former president having his presidential records.
This is lawfare by the Democrats.
They went after Trump for his presidential records.
Jack Smith indicted him over that.
Jack Smith also indicted President Trump, like Fannie Willis.
For this non-crime of objecting to a presidential election.
This is after the Manhattan D.A., Alvin Bragg, the Soros-funded D.A.
indicted Trump for the non-crime of a businessman settling, or excuse me, paying back banks in full.
And it's just, with interest, this is absurd what they're doing with this lawfare against President Trump.
Tish James, I'm sorry, Tish James is the one who brought the civil fraud claim Against Trump for the non-fraud of a businessman settling, paying back banks in full with interest, sophisticated banks.
Alvin Bragg charged Trump for the non-crime of a businessman settling a nuisance claim.
This is all out lawfare against President Trump because Democrats fear they can't beat him on November 5th, 2024.
And their fear is probably right.
If you look at the polling, these indictments are actually backfiring on the Democrats.
They're backfiring on Biden.
And Garland and Jack Smith and Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg and Tish James, they're making Trump stronger.
The Alvin Bragg indictment won Trump the Republican primary.
The first Jack Smith indictment won Trump, put Trump in close contention with Biden for the general election.
The second Jack Smith indictment, I think, won him the presidency.
And I think this latest indictment down in Georgia, in Atlanta, by Fannie Willis, is going to help Trump win the presidency by like two or three percentage points comfortably.
This is, the American people are not going to stand for the proposition that Democrat prosecutors prosecutors and Democrat judges and Democrat juries and Democrat hellholes instead of the American people get to decide who is our president.
That is not going to fly in America.
That's what you do in Zimbabwe and other third world Marxist hellholes and now New York, D.C., and Atlanta.
It's not going to work.
This is going to backfire.
This indictment is bogus.
They're charging what this is yet where you have to step.
Go ahead, Jack.
I'm sorry.
Oh, no.
I had a quick question.
So So yesterday we had this incredible series of events where the charges were posted in a docket report online.
Fannie Willis then comes out, says that it was fake, later says she knew nothing about it, tries to disown it.
We read through them here in this hour yesterday on the show.
Then they hold the court open until almost midnight last night.
She comes out with the charges.
It's identical.
It is identical to what came out in that charging document or that docket report last night or yesterday afternoon.
And so when it's identical like this, does the Trump legal team have grounds here to challenge this either at the state level or the federal level?
Because this seems like a blatant violation of due process.
Yeah, this is an egregious violation of Trump's constitutional They posted an indictment on Trump before the grand jury had a chance to review the evidence, deliberate and vote.
And then they lied about this and lied and said that that this was fake.
Like, how is it fake?
They're identical.
Like you said, Jack.
And I think what President Trump should do is have this judge assigned to this case, certainly look into this.
It was an improper and illegal leak from a grand jury.
That harms President Trump's constitutional rights, and I'd have to look at Georgia law, but I would think that the Georgia Attorney General could open an investigation here when you have misconduct by these lawless, rogue Democrat prosecutors like Fulton County DA Fannie Willis.
Now, a lot of people are saying, and I know Alan Dershowitz has been out there saying that, okay, this, you know, timing-wise, this is really what this is about.
It's about the timing, because even if these cases are found, are tried very quickly, If convictions come in, I think in D.C.
that's obvious.
Fulton County, not exactly a fan of Donald Trump, that's Atlanta.
So, even if they get appealed, that the appeals might have to play out until after the election, just because of the length of the process.
Walk us through a little bit, how does that work?
Even if the Supreme Court fixes it, timing-wise, are they able to step in?
And I guess the more salient question is, do you think they would four times?
Well, I mean, here's the issue.
These prosecutors are clearly running an organized lawfare campaign.
Notice how Fannie Willis, when she was asked last night if she is cooperating with Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department, she declined to answer that.
That's a pretty clear sign that she's, in fact, colluding with Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department.
This is obvious lawfare by them.
As for the timing, they waited 30 months to bring these charges.
30 months.
And now they just all happen to be times where they're indicting the former president and a leading presidential rival to President Biden.
They just happen to time these a couple months apart and they are now demanding trials during the presidential election season after they waited 30 months.
What President Trump and his legal team have to do... They're working the election clock.
Yeah, of course.
And so what President Trump and his legal team can do right now, they should file a motion to dismiss these indictments.
And on these January 6th indictments, as it relates to Jack Smith, and Fannie Willis, they can file a motion to dismiss.
And they can say that on two grounds.
Number one, that there's presidential immunity and President Trump was acting within his official capacity, even at the outer bounds of his official capacity.
And when he was Trying to enforce the Electoral Count Act of 1887.
Alternatively, they can argue that if he's acting within his personal capacity, that the First Amendment protects this.
And so he's either protected by presidential immunity or the First Amendment.
And the issue with presidential immunity is that is immediately appealable, right?
So you can get an interlocutory appeal and put these proceedings on ice while the appellate courts Or deciding these issues and it could go up to the you know the George through the Georgia public courts Georgia Supreme Court and if you don't get a ruling a favorable ruling from the Georgia Supreme Court and he should under either one of those grounds then you can take it straight up to the Supreme Court.
All right, and this is why we have appeals courts.
This is why we have the layered system that we do.
This is why we have federalism.
This is why we have the Supreme Court, because we've known, and throughout history, American history, there have been issues with lower courts that the higher courts have stepped in to correct.
That's actually The purpose for the system, I guess, when it comes to the Supreme Court, we certainly hope that they're willing to take it up.
We hope that they're willing to stand, again, not on one side, left or right, in politics, but on the side of the Constitution.
We're going to take a quick break, be back here with our final segment with Mike Davis, the Article 3 Project, to walk us through all the insanity that's going on right now, but how we will be able to come through this together.
To Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
All right, two things before we get back to Mike Davis.
Number one.
Alright, number one.
And I said this earlier in the show.
The entire government of Georgia is controlled by Republicans.
So if you are within the sound of my voice, or you know someone who is, that is in the state of Georgia, call your legislators.
Call your state senators.
And definitely light up the phones in Governor Kemp's office.
You need to put a stop to this right now.
I am calling for mass action.
Call, call, call, call.
Be peaceful, be patriotic, but do not stop dialing those numbers into Georgia, into the governor's office, your state reps, your state senators asking, why are you not doing anything about the crime in Atlanta?
Why are you not doing anything to stop this rogue prosecutor?
Why are you not stopping this?
And here's number two, because I want to make sure that we all know exactly who it is that is bringing these bogus charges against Trump down in Fulton County.
Boys, we're gonna have to do it at least one more time here.
Let's hit the fanny.
The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
I am giving the.
Mike Davis, that's what the people can do right now.
Let's talk legal options, though.
So you mentioned one way that they could file a motion for dismissal of these charges.
Are there any other motions?
Is there any way that the Trump legal team can fight back by going directly to the federal level here?
Any other options that they can pull out for these blatant disregard of due process, blatant disregard of the Constitution, the fact the president has the legal authority to do And by the way, as a U.S.
citizen, has the First Amendment right to tell people to watch TV if they like what they're watching?
I mean, there's a lot the Trump team could be doing.
I think the motion to dismiss the indictment for presidential immunity or alternatively under the First Amendment is the key thing that they need to do right away.
They need to look at maybe they can get Fannie Willis kicked off this case because like the judge kicked her off Another case with the Lieutenant Governor because she was fundraising for the Lieutenant Governor's opponent.
She set up a fundraising website.
Fannie Willis set up a fundraising website before she brought forward this unprecedented indictment, this lawfare against President Trump, who is a leading Republican presidential candidate.
So there are some recusal issues there, maybe forced recusal issues.
With old Fannie Willis there.
There's also House Republicans need to step it up.
They have been very disappointing.
We can do more than tweet here.
House Republicans need to look at appropriation writers where they have two writers.
Number one, no federal funds may be used for the prosecution of any major presidential candidate on or before November 5th, 2024 and no state Any state or local jurisdiction that prosecutes a major presidential candidate on or before November 5th, 2024, loses all federal funding.
This is a stand that House Republicans must take, even if that means shutting down the government, because if you are going to prosecute your political enemies, that is how the Roman Republic fell.
Caesar was forced to cross the Rubicon from Gaul into Rome because of the lawfare.
He felt he had no other choice, and that led to civil war in the fall of the Roman Republic.
I mean, we are going down a dangerous path politically and legally in this country.
If you think that we're going to become Zimbabwe and just throw our political rivals in prison for non-crimes.
And so House Republicans need to end this immediately, this lawfare immediately, because it is Republic-ending lawfare.
And so they need to step it up.
House Republicans also need to move forward with an impeachment inquiry on President Biden for his corruption abroad, his foreign bribes and other corruption, along with his weaponization of his Justice Department to go after his presidential rival Trump.
Biden is the one who had his deputy White House counsel, Jonathan Sue, greenlight the unprecedented, unnecessary and unlawful home raid against President Trump a year ago in Mar-a-Lago.
And that's led to this year of lawfare.
What's also led to this year of lawfare is the House Republicans haven't done much to stop it, right?
And tweets are not going to stop it.
They need to have impeachments.
They need to cut off funding.
They need to have oversight hearings immediately.
They need to subpoena documents.
We need to find out.
Fannie Willis wouldn't answer the question whether she was coordinating with Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department.
House Republicans need to subpoena those records immediately from the Justice Department and from Fannie Willis.
Haul them in.
Hold them in before the cameras and the bright lights.
Make them explain this to the American people.
Send out your staff to do depositions.
I couldn't agree with you more.
House Republicans need to actually start using their power.
We elected the House GOP for a reason.
Tell me, where can people go to follow you, get all the updates for Article 3?
By the way, you're crushing it on media, so thank you for taking the time to be with us here today.
Really appreciate it, Jack.
People can donate at article3project.org, article3project.org.
I'm at article3project, at article3project on Gitter, Twitter, Truth.
My personal at MRDDMIA.
And I will tweet from jail because this lawfare is not going to stop me from defending Trump and the rule of law because our country is going to come to an end if they succeed.
My God bless.
By the way, I've got a number here, folks.
This is where people can call Brian Kemp directly, the Office of the Governor.
It's 404-656-1776.
404-656-1776.
That number again, 404-656-1776.
The only way this ends is with mutual escalation on both sides.
You need Republicans in red zone districts to start looking at where's Hunter Biden?
Did he commit a crime here?
We're going to go after it.
You need Republicans in the House going Hard ball.
You need to play hard ball.
If that means shutting down the government, if that means doing subpoenas, if that means bringing Trump in, testify, whatever it is, we are going to go for it.
Folks, this is the only way to get each side to put down the levers of lawfare.
Mutually assured destruction through escalation.
I believe guys do we have here?
Can we play?
I think we have another clip actually not the clip we played before Fannie Willis But another clip do we have that clip boys that we can play as we as we go out here?
All right, so let's let's go out on that.
This is another it's we've actually what we've done here is we've removed there apparently there was a You know, a clip of Fannie Willis that didn't make it to air last night.
We've recovered this clip here for the Human Events audience.
We're going to leave it with you.
Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.
Let's play the clip, boys.
A Fulton County grand jury returned a true bill of indictment charging 19 individuals with violations of Georgia law
