Aug. 12, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 9 — Civil War Now? Prager on Porn? Sign the Pledge?
In this latest THOUGHTCRIME featuring Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff, the group explores critical questions like:-When the right wing talks about "civil war" in the future, is it just cope?-Is Megan Rapinoe's World Cup choke job one of the greatest moments in U.S. sports history?-Should Trump sign a pledge to support the GOP nominee?-Why are Dennis Prager's views on pornography going viral?THOUGHTCRIME will stream LIVE exclusively on Rumble, every Thursday nig...
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard for another edition of ThoughtCrime.
Today's episode, myself, Charlie Kirk, and the gang talk about Trump and the RNC pledge, the Michigan fraud case, everything that happened in Utah, the killing of Craig Robertson, and the FBI's actions.
We get into Rapinoe, the women's national team miracle on grass, we have an extensive debate about Dennis Prager's controversial comments on pornography, and finally the deep web reveal.
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Okay, everybody, welcome.
It is Thought Crime Thursday.
That's the first time we've said that.
It kind of works.
We have Blake Neff, who I think liberals and conservatives equally hate.
Tyler Boyer.
Hey, how you doing?
We went from getting more popular every week to hated by everyone now.
Blake, your stock is going down!
Like the Hindenburg.
And Jack Posobiec, still learning who he is.
Jack, we'll lead with you.
How are things going?
I love what Blake's long-term strategy is here.
He wants each quadrant of the political compass to hate him equally, and somewhere in the middle, he'll find a woman.
It's like the Geraldo Rivera strategy.
Exactly.
It's the undertaker strategy.
Loved by few, hated by many.
He's doing great.
But it's very necessary.
Okay, let's start with our first story today on the lineup.
I don't think we have much of a... Oh yeah, okay.
The RNC is once again trying to get Trump to sign a pledge to support the party's eventual nominee.
Even if it's not him, Trump doesn't seem interested.
Is he making the right move?
I'll take my take first, and then Jack, you can... I'll hand off the baton.
These pledges by the RNC are so irrelevant.
They're non-binding.
They're so fake.
And Trump not wanting to sign it.
I just think he reasserts control that it is his party and also shows that the RNC doesn't mean anything.
Jack Posobiec, your thoughts.
So I think a lot of these pledges are kind of silly at this point because we all know the situation that we're in in the party.
You've got these two wings fighting it out.
And in many ways, MAGA itself represents a real third party in America.
It just happens to be within the Republican Party, within the framework of the Republican Party, fighting for dominance within that party.
And so this idea that, oh, we're all going to be kumbaya, really?
Does that mean that Mitt Romney is going to come out and support Trump when he wins the nominations?
Does that mean that all the Republicans that are going to run against him, they're not going to undercut Trump?
It's ridiculous.
They're already undercutting him.
The New York Times has got the Federalist Society.
Yeah, putting out articles today saying, oh, Donald Trump, the conservative case for disqualifying Trump from the ballot in November.
And so I think it's ridiculous.
I think the entire pledge is ridiculous.
I don't think he should sign it.
And the fact that Trump was the first person ever in Republican politics to say and just raise his hand and say, I will not support the eventual nominee.
That's the reason he won.
Tyler, you are on the RNC.
What's going on here?
Yeah, I mean, look, so I agree with half of what Jack said, and I disagree with the other half, and I'll tell you the other half that I disagree with.
I agree with the latter half.
We have to guess which half.
Next question.
Yeah, exactly.
I agree with the latter half, which is that Donald Trump should not, in no way, should perform science.
I'm a member of the RNC.
Uh, they're probably going to like try to kick me off the RNC for saying this probably, but I don't think that Donald Trump should sign the pledge.
I think the pledge is stupid.
Um, the, these things are idiotic.
Exactly what Trump came out and said is exactly right.
I wouldn't support half these people on the stage.
Like who would support, you know, some of these guys like Chris Christie, I would not support Chris Christie.
Personally, I would never support Mike Pence.
I would never support a pledge to support Mike Pence.
So like, no, why would you sign that?
That shouldn't be a qualifier to get on the stage.
Now, the only part I'll disagree with, and it's just kind of a minor disagreement, is that I actually don't think there are three parties in the country.
There isn't a uniparty third party.
There isn't a MAGA third party.
There's us versus the left.
The left is the uniparty.
You know, and I hate when people are like, oh, the unit parties, like this third party come up the middle, like everyone has to be moderate.
This is what they want to do with ranked choice voting, is they're trying to produce this moderate middle that's non-existent.
It's the left, the globalist left, that hates you, hates America, hates everything that America stands for, and it's Americans.
And there's a lot of Democrats that are figuring this out, and they're switching over.
And so the party has to become the party of freedom and not relent to what is the unit party, which is the left, which is what people say all the time.
There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats when the unit party is in control.
The unit party is not in control right now.
Well, I just – I love that you just brought up ranked choice – real quick, that you brought up ranked choice voting because I just saw recently there's a legal filing because they've considered ranked choice voting in D.C., And obviously they're trying to get ranked choice voting in every single red state, every Republican jurisdiction.
And then it comes up in D.C.
and there's a legal filing that's like, we can't have ranked choice voting guys because It's too confusing to Democratic voters.
It will keep them from electing Democrats.
No, it said somewhere, this will confuse African-American voters.
Yeah, exactly.
It was like minority voters.
It said minority voters.
So literally, they're admitting straight up in San Francisco, where it's not working, in Vermont, where they kicked it out, in D.C., the most Democrat areas in America, they're admitting this is not good for minority voters because it limits people's access to the ballot.
And they've done this before.
They did it, Eric Holder once sued a town in, I think, North Carolina that tried to do non-partisan elections because they said, like, this will confuse black people because then they won't know who the Democrat is and it is the constitutional right of black people to vote for the Black People Party, which is the Democratic Party.
That was the argument from Holder.
But bring this back in.
So bring this back in with the Rangers.
But the whole point of Rangers funding, they want to create this third party middle ground model.
It's not a third party, guys.
It is us versus them.
They want to create a controllable false set of radical left that still like dresses normally, basically.
And yeah, but on the pledge on the pledge thing, just to get it really back to what the alleged topic is.
The thing that's really dumb about it is we literally did this seven years ago, guys, when they were all like, Trump is just signing a pledge.
Can we just dwell on, I just love how the RNC is being made a mockery of all their stupid debate rules.
Oh, we're going to have 40,000 donors.
Meanwhile, Doug Burgum, I'm going to give people $20 gift cards if they give me $1.
I bought headphones with that and it was amazing.
A lot of our audience got $19 richer off of this whole gift card thing.
Amazon got $19 richer after I used the money that he gave me.
However, this is typical RNC where they were like, well, how do we make sure we do not have a debate circus?
I know!
We'll make sure you have 40,000 donors!
And we'll make sure that you sign a loyalty pledge!
And by the way, you're trying to tell me if Donald Trump doesn't sign the loyalty pledge, Ronna McDaniel is going to be like, I'm sorry, sir, you're not allowed to come up on stage.
Like she's going to stand up to Trump after they're like groveling because he hasn't signed a piece of paper.
It shows how illegitimate the RNC has become.
Tyler, RNC member, your thoughts?
To Mar-a-Lago to beg Bedminster, but yeah, Bedminster, I'm sorry.
They said Fox to Bedminster.
That's even worse, honestly, like like they went to Bedminster, right?
To grovel and say, Trump, please, we'll do anything.
Like, are you kidding me?
I have some the RNC, right?
Well, the RNC needs and this is the funny part, like if you want to put broader context here to this, The RNC needs the money from Fox right now.
Like desperately needs the money from Fox right now.
Fox needs the viewers.
And Fox needs the viewers.
So everyone is like Trump has lined this thing up where he's the one that's like literally queuing everybody up here.
He's so smart.
He's playing them like a fiddle.
He's so good.
He's so good at this.
And this is the reason why he shouldn't sign the pledge and he shouldn't go to this first debate.
He shouldn't.
He shouldn't.
I don't think he should go to any debate.
It's just so insane to me.
Like, again, the repetitiveness.
Like, I remember in 2015, they're all like, everyone's got to sign the pledge.
And you have these candidates coming out and making the show like, I'm loyal.
I signed the pledge.
Why won't Trump?
And then the following spring, when it's clear Trump is going to win, they start backing off and they're all like, oh, I don't know.
But like, I have to also remind you guys, Chris Christie came out a couple weeks ago.
He said, I will sign the pledge, but I don't mean it.
You know, he said that, right?
He just Chris Christie said, I will sign whatever it takes to get me on stage, but I am not going to actually do what the piece of paper says.
It shows the RNC has zero enforcement mechanism.
They're just like, okay.
Yeah, okay.
Do you have your 40,000 donors?
By the way, are they actually auditing whether or not anyone has 40,000 donors?
There's no way.
They can't even take me off the RNC fundraising events.
Perry Johnson, God bless him, he was at our event.
He says he has 40,000 donors.
I mean, Mike Pence.
I highly doubt Mike Pence.
And it's all organized by them, so I don't think it would even be illegal for them if they just lied about it, right?
Well, no, it's not.
I mean, I mean, who knows?
I mean, we are having a conversation.
We are having we are having conversations before ours are because like what the heck is legal or illegal.
It's like if you breathe in the wrong direction with a MAGA hat on, you're going to federal prison for 10 years.
But it's you know, I can't even pinpoint the RNC has become so illegitimate.
There's such a laughing stock that Chris Christie says, I'll sign your piece of paper and I don't mean it.
Trump has not signed the piece of paper.
And, but the real truth, Jack, the real question, Jack Posobiec is, can we, I want to see Mike Pence's voter file.
I do, uh, donor file.
I do not believe he has 40,000 donors.
Did he give out some gift cards that we were unaware of, Jack?
Was there some sort of Mike Pence gift card scheme?
There's, there was this article.
Back when Hillary ran in 2008, and Rush Limbaugh used to talk about it all the time, and I think it was the New York Times had found it, this is when all of these Chinatown Like, just residents of Chinatown in San Francisco and New York City were maxing out to Hillary Clinton all over the place.
And then the New York Times was like, oh, that's great.
They actually went and like looked up some of the people and they found that it was like busboys and people like washing dishes.
And they said, oh, that's fine.
They're, you know, they're scrimping together and they're saving all so they can max out to Hillary Clinton.
And Rush was like, No, it's very obvious what's going on here.
There's members of the Chinese Communist Party that are walking around in New York City and San Francisco handing them the money and telling them to hand it to Hillary Clinton.
I think that's what Pence is up to.
Pence has got a Chinese money laundering scheme.
I'm not saying it's coming from China, but I'm saying he's probably using straw donors or something like that in order to get himself up to the $40,000 limit.
That's a bold claim.
I just want to see, I want to see the donor file.
Like, I want to know how he got to $40,000.
I just, that, that really is not... Okay, so let's play.
I'm told we should play Cut 114.
George, I'll be on the debate stage and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago when he signed the pledge as Reince Priebus went up there and begged him to do it.
And then on the first debate stage, he didn't raise his hand to say he would support the nominee.
I will do whatever I have to do, George, to be on that stage and to be able to make the case to the American people that there is a need for new leadership.
And I'll take the pledge just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago.
You're saying you're going to take the pledge, but you don't really mean it?
No, what I'm saying, George, is that I'm going to do exactly what the RNC has set us up to do.
Nine, eight years ago, Donald Trump signed the pledge and then absolutely disregarded it in the first debate.
And there was absolutely no penalty for that.
I'm going to do whatever I need to do to save my party and save my country.
I mean, he's not going to do anything that he needs to do because there's one obvious thing.
There's an obvious thing, which is fix your BMI.
Well, that could be a savior.
Maybe it's part of his plan.
He can't get on the debate stage, but he can sort of make the debate orbit him.
Gravitational pull.
Gravitational exertion.
Or like a gurney of some sort to... What bothers me the most about Chris Christie is every time he gets questioned about his weight, he acts like he's some victim.
I've struggled with this my entire life.
It's some sort of sickness.
You're just lazy.
You don't have any diet discipline.
Christie, you're rich.
Pay someone to, like, weld you into a room for a month and then we'll come back and we'll drop, like, you know, a multivitamin down a slot and then we'll come back.
Let's play Cut 113.
I think we just know... Go ahead, go ahead.
He's a big talker when we're a few miles away from each other.
He's got a lot to say when he's got a phone in his hand posting something on social media.
We're gonna know what he's really made of if we see whether he shows up two weeks from tonight or not on that stage because I'll tell you one thing for sure.
I will be there and I am waiting for him.
And then we'll answer him.
'Cause where I grew up and the way I was raised was a man who has something to say to another man, comes up to him and looks him in the eye and says it to him.
And a coward does the opposite.
So we'll see if the coward shows up two weeks from tonight in Milwaukee, but I will be there.
It's sounding a little.
There is no way that guy has 40,000 donors.
There is that.
They're just lying.
I mean, the RNC is not auditing anything.
There's no way.
Well, we know how long they're auditing.
When I'm in a rest stop bathroom and a man walks up to another man.
I had the same thought.
Cugs him in the eye.
Cut 103.
He's eating right now.
Now he can't be bothered.
Sir, please do not call him a fat pig.
That's very disrespectful.
Don't call him.
See, I'm trying to be nice.
Don't call him a fat pig.
Jack, your thoughts?
So, you know, it's interesting to me because I'll say a couple of things.
I mean, right off the bat, we know there's at least one candidate on the campaign trail right now that is definitely not on OZempic, and that is Chris Christie.
What if that's his plan?
He's going to show that he's powerful by defeating Ozempic.
He takes it and he will defeat the Ozempic.
The thing with Christie though is he lost a lot of the bluster, right?
There's one thing he's lost.
It's not weight.
He's lost the bluster.
He's lost the fight.
I don't hear any fire in the belly in terms of this.
And I say that as a guy, I was at Chris Christie's victory party.
I was there in 2009 when he first ran.
We did volunteering over in New Jersey, came over from Pennsylvania.
A lot of history helping out on that campaign.
And you look at this guy, and I remember when he was the fighter, but that's not a fighter.
That sounds like a guy who doesn't want to be there.
That sounds like a guy that's not interested.
And here's the bottom line.
He's got no credibility.
He's got no credibility whatsoever or leverage within the conservative base.
Chris Christie, you're saying, oh, you're the big man of the party or something.
Where were you?
Where were you for all these years fighting to support MAGA, fighting to support America First, fighting to support the country, and you're going to come out and say that you stand for them or something?
What have you done?
You've been silent for all these years.
And honestly, you sound like a jilted ex-lover.
I don't want to think of that.
Go back to toe tapping off the Golden State Parkway.
So final thoughts, the RNC is irrelevant and rather illegitimate.
So over under, do you think Trump's going to debate, Blake?
I think he'll debate at least once.
I think he will probably skip the first one.
But I think he has that natural read on what makes people talk about him the most.
And there's got to be a scenario where he somehow ends up on the debate stage and just totally blows everyone away.
He has to remind everyone, wherever I go, I am the number one most important person.
And if he never shows up, the press will try to come up with this thing where they're like, Oh, you know, we're getting we're getting Haley Mentum from the debate stage, and they'll try to create a narrative.
And the best way to scuttle that is you just blow it up by having him show up once, obviously dominate the debate stage, and then then he doesn't need to show up again, probably.
Yeah, I think he doesn't need to show up to this first debate.
I think he needs to set the tone.
Yeah, I kind of agree.
I think Jack said this.
Charlie's on the no debate train.
Waste of time.
Jack's on the one no debate and then the rest of the debates.
You're on all debates.
Like one debate.
Show up at one debate.
Oh, you're going to show up at one debate and then never show up again.
I think that'll probably be what he will do, and I think that strategically probably makes the most sense.
I think he's going to try to... I think he's going to end up doing... I think it's zero, one, and then zero.
He'll show up to one because it will help his fundraising.
He'll do one.
I think he should show up to the one in California because he's... You know why he's going to?
He's not going to show up to Milwaukee because YAF is co-sponsoring it, and it's a Pence organization.
He's going to show up to the Reagan Library.
You know why?
Because Kevin McCarthy is going to ask him to and he's going to do it.
And then he's not going to show up again.
But I also think Trump has good memories at the Reagan Library when he destroyed every single one of these people's careers.
Yeah, that was the place.
The first debate was just kind of about Megyn Kelly and you had John Kasich chopping lettuce.
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
That's right.
I was there.
And Megyn Kelly was sick.
Literally, she was actually physically sick at the time.
It's an interesting part of the story.
The Reagan Library was like when all of them, so they had a couple weeks of prep.
And they go back and all their consultants gave him these one liners.
And Scott Walker had he thought he was like, tough guy.
And he said, well, we don't need an apprentice apprentice in the White House like that.
He's like, is that the one?
How many?
Wait, wait, wait.
How many of those lines like a drive-by on Rand Paul out of nowhere?
How many of those lines do you think?
Well, how many of those lines do you think that DeSantis team has planned right now?
Oh my gosh.
They've probably got a million of those lines because a lot of this is the same, you know, a lot of the infrastructure from Ted Cruz that's come over.
It's those same type of guys.
They're going to say, but he gave Fauci a medal.
He gave Fauci a medal.
Don't forget the Fauci medal.
Don't forget this.
He's going to say, oh, warp speed, warp speed.
We need it.
We need a guy who's ready to drive at American speed, not warp speed.
Like, it's going to be some ridiculous one-liner, like, telling you.
Has one of these one-liners ever succeeded?
Yes, Trump's have.
And that's because it was out in 1996.
Well, yeah, I mean, where's the beef?
1996.
What about where's the beef?
When, when it was Clinton, Clinton Dole, And Bob Dole was going on and on and on about the attacks on Clinton.
And keep in mind, this is even prior to Lewinsky, but he was doing some of the personal character attacks.
And then Clinton just kind of looks at him and goes, no attack has ever put food in the mouth of a hungry child.
You know, something like that.
And back in the 90s, like that was kind of all you needed to do to show, oh, and the entire media is fawning over him.
Oh, and he plays the saxophone.
He's got a wonderful wife who definitely doesn't kill people that are her political enemies, liabilities.
No, no, no.
We love them.
They're so wonderful.
The, uh, to close the thought though, I think that at the Reagan, the Reagan library is an interesting dynamic though.
The only thing that Trump won't like about it, it's extremely limited seating.
And that's... It's all bad guys.
It's all gonna be bad guys.
It's going to be Vichy French, lobbyists, warmongers, which actually Trump might actually enjoy.
That's great.
His best debate was the one that was South Carolina, everyone against him.
I know, but there is this dynamic where Trump wants to debate in front of like 50,000 people.
Right.
Well, yeah, he brought it up in that debate.
He said, like, I know they didn't let any of my people in.
But but here here is my advice to the Trump campaign publicly and privately.
My advice was, if you're going to debate, just call your own time, place and manner.
But you know what?
I'll debate you at UFC at 11 p.m.
on Saturday night before the final.
And like, just like in my own place, they need you.
Just forget the RNC.
Waste of time, okay?
You could literally be like, you know what?
Meet me in Lubbock, Texas and they'll all fly there, right?
They'll all just like come because their only path is to try to go after Trump.
He could literally say, he could be like, you know what?
I'm doing it at Bedminster.
And like everyone comes to Bedminster.
It would totally come, but they would like forget all this like parameters and RNC stuff and Fox News, by the way, be like the most watched thing ever.
Get them to come to Bedminster and then just like blow them off and go to a McDonald's and buy McDonald's for a bunch of people and then like forget about it.
Or just like not show up.
It just shows how it just shows how feckless and irrelevant the RNC has become.
Jack, final thoughts on this topic?
No, I was just gonna, I mean, obviously Trump should debate at least once.
I think he should make sure that Tucker should be up there.
I think he's got to think about the general electorate, not just the primary electorate.
But Charlie, to your point, there's precedent for that because that's exactly what Reagan did.
That's where we got that line, I paid for this microphone, that he actually went, established his own debate, set up the entire thing, and paid for it.
It was New Hampshire, that's right.
Yeah.
And so, actually, Jack, I don't think it was a debate.
I think it was a forum.
But anyway, you're right.
It was a viral moment.
It was a forum.
Yes.
Because if you were paying for his microphone, it would be a debate.
But you're right.
And the other one, look, I mean, Donald Trump is the king of one-liners.
We remember him all.
Like, Little Marco, Jeb, you keep on moving down the thing.
You'd be in jail.
Like, I mean, he's the king of that.
And so there is an argument to be made, and Blake would definitely sympathize.
Like, Put the lion in the arena for the right place, right time.
Devour them all.
He'll call them all names.
And he's done.
He's just like, I am done.
I am finished.
It is done.
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Thank you, Jack.
Good job.
And I was just going through old pictures of the Iowa State Fair.
Actually, that's an interesting subtopic we could touch on really quickly, Tyler, before we get to Michigan.
We have a whole team in Iowa.
And I was just getting... Can we get this picture up here?
I'll never forget.
So I went to the Iowa State Fair in 2015 with Tom Patrick.
May he rest in peace.
Because Tom was super interested by the Trump phenomenon at the time.
Yeah.
Tom was an amazing guy and very wealthy, very generous.
And he was like, I need to see this Trump thing up because he couldn't believe it, but he was starting to process it.
Then I remember we saw this firsthand.
Look at this picture.
Donald Trump shows up on a helicopter.
He's like, I'm going to give kids rides on a helicopter.
I remember that.
And he does a press conference with a bunch of just random children around him.
Like, just ask him if he was Batman.
Remember the one kid?
The kid goes, the kid goes, are you Batman?
And he's like, yeah, I'm Batman.
It's one of the greatest things.
This is Trump doing a press conference.
This is he destroyed politics, which I think is why people love him.
There's no script.
There's no teleprompter.
It's a single microphone with just random kids throughout the state of Iowa around.
This is right after we did our event in Arizona.
This was not too long, a couple weeks after.
That's right.
So Tyler, tell us what's going on at the Iowa State Fair really quick.
We have literally the largest presence of any conservative organization at the Iowa State Fair right now.
Who's the RNC there?
Not to my knowledge.
We have our full-time field staff.
We have incredible staff in Iowa We have our incredible staff in the Midwest all present and killing it at the Iowa State Fair We have a massive booth and you can you can read it I don't know if we can get a picture up all I can send it over but probably not on here But it says lead your precinct lead your country and right now we are recruiting Mr. Trump!
Yes!
Are you Batman?
upon hundreds of people to become precinct committeemen in the state of Iowa and also get involved with the caucuses.
So we're going to have, I think, thousands of people that we are now going to be motivating to make sure they get out to their caucuses across the state of Iowa so that we get the best possible result for a candidate come caucus time here.
Let's 117.
Really great poll, Ryan.
Good job.
Play cut 117.
Super fast.
Mr. Trump.
Yes.
Are you Batman?
I am Batman.
It's just at that point, the primary was over.
Not all of us realized at the time, it's over.
All right.
Okay.
So let's get to this Michigan thing.
We have lots of thoughts.
Blake is, is super interested to become further unpopular.
So Blake, the floor is yours.
Okay.
Well, so there's a big story that, um, went viral over the last day or so.
Uh, and it's actually goes back to 2020.
It's a Michigan stuff, obviously one of the States that was heavily contested in the 2020 election.
And it's specifically this police report out of, um, Muskegon County.
I don't know if I mispronounced that, but I think it's Muskegon.
Muskegon County in Michigan.
It's the western part of Michigan near Grand Rapids.
And it's this police report where a county official calls the police and says, hey, we're getting all of these ballot applications dropped off.
I believe it's that you would send out a ballot application, send it in, and then they would mail you the ballot because they were doing all the mail ballots.
And one person is dropping off thousands of these.
About 10,000 total, they estimated.
And Muskegon County's only got 175,000 people.
So if you account for who's kids and everything, it's like one out of every 13 voters in Muskegon County had this ballot application dropped off by one person.
And they're like, we're looking at them, and a lot of them seem really, really similar.
And so the cops go in and investigate.
They take a set of 40 of them.
It's not clear from the police report whether this is all the ones that were suspicious or if they just sort of took some examples to then look into it further.
And they start looking at them and they're like, okay, well, one, a lot of these seem to have made up addresses that are not real addresses.
Some of them have the same signature and it doesn't match what's already on file.
Cause again, these are ballot applications.
So they often already had the signatures on file for their voter registrations and such, and now they're different.
And they start exploring this more and more, and they find one of the people whose name is here, and she says, yeah, I filled out this form, but I didn't sign it.
I don't know who signed it or how it ever got to you.
And they just find all these red flags.
And then they go to the actual place of business where this is held.
It's a GBI Strategies, I think is the name of the firm.
And GBI Strategies, they investigate their place, and they just find more strange things.
They find more ballot applications half finished.
They find eight firearms in pelican boxes, a mixture of semi-automatic rifles and custom pistols.
Nothing wrong with that.
With suppressors like it's a James Bond movie or something.
And they were apparently legally owned guns, so I'm glad they're not doing illegal gun trafficking to our knowledge.
But they had these guns and somewhere on a whiteboard they had in a phrase and they didn't note what the purpose of this was, but someone wrote on a whiteboard like major topics Weapons in the field, you know, maybe they meant like we need to be weapons in the field because we're gonna go win the election for Brandon who they weren't calling Brandon yet, but that's how ahead of the times they were and They were from the future.
Yeah, they were from the future and so it's just all these strange things and they're like wow This is pretty weird.
We better tell the Secretary of State about it the Secretary of State's a Democrat or we could tell the FBI about it and The FBI are Democrats.
And so that's where it went.
That's kind of how it ended.
And so obviously the big picture thing is, Muskegon County by itself did not swing Michigan, but this company was active nationwide in a lot of different places.
They got, it looks like, many millions of dollars from the Democrats.
They were elsewhere in Michigan.
They were in other states.
And if the fate of this investigation was, we found all this weird stuff and then we just decided collectively we're not going to look at it anymore, Uh, how often did that happen in the incredibly fair election that was 2020?
Mm-hmm.
So, you weren't thrilled with the article, though?
I wasn't thrilled with the article because, uh, let me bring up the headline here.
Uh, what we've got is... Gateway, da-da-da... I like Gateway Pundit, for the record.
I think they're great.
So... I do.
I like Jim Hoff.
I've known him for a while.
They play a very important role in the movement.
I'm on the record saying that.
I like Gateway Pundit.
So what Gateway Pundit does... Couldn't say more... speak more highly of Gateway Pundit.
Their role.
The fact that Gateway Pundit, by the way, was there even... I want to say they even got started before Breitbart.com got started.
No, they're great.
And they never give up.
They are relentless.
I like Gateway Pundit.
I really do.
My issue with Gateway Pundit is one, I think many of the stories they publish are just not true.
And I think in the grand scheme of things, that's not true.
That's a ton of them aren't true.
We tried, Charlie.
We tried.
You just that's how it is.
The essence of it is true.
They they they they put how do I best say this?
They they are they they dress up the story in a way that makes you want to read it.
There are fire breathers over there.
Is that a way to say it, Jack?
They take a story and then they make it so you want to click on it.
No different than BuzzFeed would.
It's a tactic.
They just use different tactics for true stories.
Well, again, I just think that they often – so they'll push – one thing I disliked with this article is they loop it in with the old footage from 2020 of a van pulling up in I think Wayne County, Michigan to whatever center it was.
I can't remember the name off the top of my head.
But it's like, guys, that van, like it's been discussed.
The van is not – Someone dumping 200,000 votes out of nowhere to swing Michigan to Biden with these made-up ballots.
And in fact, Wayne County didn't even vote more for Biden than it did in 2016.
It was one of the only counties in Michigan that didn't.
Trump did great in Wayne County.
And they also kind of give it this number, 800,000.
They're like, this thing in Muskegon County proves 800,000 fake votes in Michigan.
And no, what it is, is the Secretary of State, the former Republican Secretary of State for Michigan says, I believe up to 800,000 improper ballot applications were sent out.
So this is a more interesting, I don't, the specifics you might be right on.
I'm not interested in that.
Go ahead, Jack.
I was going to say, the reason they picked that video is because that wasn't, I remember this from 2020, that was an exclusive video obtained by the Gateway Pundit.
So I think all they're doing there is just referring back to their own reporting.
We do that at post-millennial and human events every day.
Well, okay, but then they're referring back to a story that essentially didn't go anywhere, and it actually proved to be a huge distraction.
And that's where I would critique this.
For the right, we care a lot about election integrity.
And I think with a lot of cases, we get sort of carried away with believe every alleged case of election integrity, or of election fraud, when what would be much better for us as a party in a movement is if we could just decisively prove and get someone convicted, even on a single one, even if it doesn't change the result of the election.
If we put in a lot of resources to figure out exactly what happened in Muskegon County and found a criminal and convicted them, that would do a lot more than like really wild allegations of Right, so my defense is not going to be as specific.
It will be more general of the Gateway Pundit, which is that there is a role for boundary-pushing, headline-grabbing type of journalism publishing that does, let's just say, add an element of excitement And an element of sexiness.
At the same time, I agree, we must always be anchored to the truth.
However, here's what I'll say.
The Gateway Pundit, they will engage in what would be considered third-rate rail stories.
And I'm glad, because there needs to be a organization that does that.
Sometimes you're going to come up empty, or sometimes you're going to find out that Epstein Island is legit.
So I think you would agree, Blake, there is a place for the provocative, the boundary-pushing.
Definitely.
But I guess I would say, what's the left-wing equivalent of Gateway Pundit?
The New York Times.
The New York Times is a very biased outlet, but they're biased in what they choose to cover.
They're biased in how they frame everything.
I'm being so They obviously paper things over Like the New York Times The thing about it is The New York Times Is a very biased outlet But they're biased In what they choose to cover They're biased In how they frame everything It's like a very high level Of bias Daily Beast Talking Points Memo Yeah They'd be more so But even the Daily Beast Is not going to just like Wildly Like I think again The headline here was like This proves mass ballot fraud They would never title something like that.
The Daily Beast speculates constantly.
They do.
But even they're more restrained.
I want to interject on the the subject matter here a little bit.
Sure.
Sure.
Instead of about Gateway Pundit.
So Gateway Pundit is wonderful.
Awesome.
I fully endorse Gateway Pundit.
And here's the reason why.
Because again, I agree.
I agree with Charlie.
The Daily Beast and, you know, all the different there's there's 10 there's 10 equivalents out there where they take one element here and they run with it.
And I like What we're talking about here, because Michigan is, we're dealing with criminals.
I mean, we're dealing with literal people who are trying to throw, throw people into prison in Michigan for, that are political enemies.
And what's happened here is what they're on, onto maybe the estimate that came from the state senator, those former secretaries that you brought up, 800,000.
That's the conversation that existed.
It doesn't matter if 800,000 is the correct number.
The reality is it probably is hundreds of thousands of improperly registered people.
And what we know at Turning Point Action, the research that we've done, and taking the Democrats own research, is they know they get one vote for every two people they register.
That's the number.
That's their numbers.
They tell all of their groups, their outside C4s, that if you can register two young people, one of them we can get to vote.
Meaning, we can chase their ballot, we can harvest their ballot, and go from there.
That is the subject matter right now.
We know in Michigan, the game that they're playing is they're trying to either falsely register Or accurately register.
It doesn't really matter at this point.
Because it doesn't matter if you're a warm, live body, you're dead, or you're non-existent in Democrat world.
Because all that matters is the paper that results in that registration.
Because they're going to figure out a way to deliver the ballot, the paper ballot, to the mailbox and that ultimately gets to the processing center.
That's what they care about.
So the subject matter here, and this is why I love Gateway Pundit, Because they're hated.
And anyone that's hated by the left... I like them a little bit.
Yeah, it makes me love them.
And here's the reason why, and I don't think... The subject matter they're talking about here is true, is accurate.
We know that there are not just tens of thousands of ballots, or voter registrations that have been falsified or pushed.
There's hundreds of thousands, most likely, right?
We can all agree to that, right?
It may not be 800,000, but if it's half that, that's 400,000!
And that means that...
On the Democrats' notes alone, they expect out of that 400,000 that got registered, 200,000 to get returned.
That should scare every single person that's witnessing and listening to this story.
And that's where I don't think they're actually sewing up this story, to your point, which is like, well, what's the meaning of this, right?
What does this mean?
And we don't always get there, actually, because, you know, Gateway Compundent will come out with something and then, like, the moderates will be like, oh, I'm embarrassed because I got one fact wrong because they said that the sky was cloudy and it was really a clear blue sky that day.
That's a distraction.
The real fact here is that hundreds of thousands of people are getting registered that don't really want to vote.
Whether they're alive, real or not.
So Blake, you will be publishing your next op-ed for GatewayPun.com.
Oh boy.
I don't I don't want to dwell on this too much, but let's put it Blake.
How about this?
If you were writing the story, how would you have headlined it in the most scintillatingly accurate way possible?
Well, this is this is not going to make you happy, but I'm not me.
I mean, you wouldn't your audience is the one that you don't want to be scintillating.
You might you'd probably do something.
You'd be like like.
Newly unearthed police report from Muskegon County, like found, you know, guns, like, you know, lies, like that's not that far off, though.
They found guns.
We're not using it.
We're not using the 800,000 number.
Fair.
OK, but we're not saying what I'm getting at is you guys are in the rod exposed.
We're in the same zip code, though.
Like, but that's the thing.
It's so subtle.
So why do you need to do the one that gets you like, one, it gets you demonetized everywhere and it makes it way too easy to basically just say like, oh, you guys are a bunch of cranks and we don't need to listen to you.
And I think, I don't think it does, I get why it happens, but I don't think it does the right, a lot of credit.
And I guess I would ask, what's like the big political victory that we won because of like a Gateway Pundit article that was written that way?
Jack, your thoughts.
I think the Gateway Pundit's great.
I think they're a great website.
I think Jim and his brother Joe, who has an excellent book series on this entire The prior to this report, I should say, everything that we've learned prior to this report are fantastic.
And, you know, on the journalistic point, you've got to give them credit because the Gateway Pundit actually did unearth this report.
So we wouldn't even be here talking about the, you know, the quality of the headline if it wasn't for the fact that they actually did do the digging and they were dogged on the story.
And now we have this this police report.
Topic three, civil war now.
A lot of chatter about that.
Jack, walk us through what just recently happened in Utah.
Please, Jack, take the lead.
Yeah, so 6.15 a.m.
local time, I guess mountain time yesterday in which I believe you guys are all in right now.
Or no, your Pacific time right now.
Provo, Utah, yesterday morning, the FBI raided a 75-year-old man living on a suburban street, suburban neighborhood.
Man weighs 300 pounds, walked with a cane, had trouble getting around by himself, discovered his blind son.
They raided him in a pre-dawn raid, full Bearcat SWAT truck that came up with them, rifles drawn at maximum.
Do we have body cam footage?
6:15 in the morning, we've got a video that, do we have the video?
Do we actually have the video guys? - We have body cam footage, is that right?
I didn't know we had that. - We don't have body cam footage.
What we have is actually, we played this earlier today on human events, FBI body cam footage, very hard to come by Extremely rare that it's ever been released in any case.
You can sue for it and you might eventually get it.
You might, but like I say, it's rare.
It's not like local.
Correct.
This is neighbor footage, basically.
So it's somebody directly across the street who is filming.
And what you see is the preview, basically, how the event started and unfolded.
You don't actually hear or see the shooting in the video that's come out.
The Salt Lake Tribune.
Posted this as well as a few other people have posted out and verified it.
And so they were serving a search and arrest warrant against making threats on President Biden, making threats on Kamala Harris, as well as a number of other federal officials on this individual.
But what's very interesting is that the FBI had actually had this guy under surveillance, physically, either starting or occurring all the way back in March of this year.
They spoke with him at his home in March of this year after following him to church, where they watched him attend services and then get into the car with another individual, confronted him at his home, asked him about the posts.
He told them to come back with a warrant.
Apparently, they did come back with a warrant here several months later, and they claim at this point That he was brandishing a gun, and that is why they decided to open fire, killed him, and hailed the bullet.
Okay, well, Jack, let's also be fair.
He has posted stuff on social media that I think we would deem unacceptable.
If you post stuff like this guy posted, you should expect a knock on your door.
OK, so are good.
I just want to make sure we communicate that that one of the posts he said, FBI, next time you come to my door, you know, let me know because I'm going to have a loaded gun waiting for you.
Well, and he has all those like the posts are extremely inflammatory and incredibly boomer.
Like it's all like the laugh emoji thing, like all of this.
Like I have expected to put one up.
Yeah, it's like it's very like next time.
It's like when agents come to my place, I'm going to kill you and it's going to have a minion on it or something.
People know someone in their life, maybe not necessarily in your family, but I'm sure that you know someone in your life who's in that age range that posts like this.
Look, here's what I'll say.
Is that some people on the sinister left are doing the FAFO stuff, right?
I don't like that.
OK, this is a guy that died.
On the other side, I think there is a little bit too much of a Almost a BLM reaction, like, oh my gosh, the police are killing us.
Look, this is what this guy said a couple weeks ago.
Hey FBI, you still monitoring my social media?
Checking so I can be sure to have a loaded gun handy in case you drop by again.
Let's be honest, if Ta-Nehisi Coates, the BLM author, wrote that, and he was raided by the FBI and killed, I don't think we'd be like, oh my goodness.
But he wouldn't, because that's the secret.
Ta-Nehisi Coates is like a huge, he's like a huge voice.
You're cutting all the contact out.
that black people are never raided by the FBI?
I mean, the point, I mean, the issue is- Popular black writers like that, celebrities that have called for killing President Trump, celebrities that have called for doing all sorts of things to Trump's family, to barons Trump, to call for killing Nick Sandman in a wood chipper.
I don't remember any of those people being raided.
A Harvard professor did once get arrested for trying to get into his own house.
So that led to the beer summit.
I'm not- But that wasn't the FBI either.
What I mean to say is there is a context here that the FBI has been targeting one side to the point about January 6th.
Blake, what do you got?
If Donald Trump were to be found guilty by a jury, where do you see this going?
Civil war.
Civil war.
we're leading into so this happens uh obviously there's this sort of like violent stuff but uh this is all sort of a setup for there's a lot of uh there's a lot of weird talk on the right and we'll see it with uh clip 105 here if donald trump were to be found guilty by a jury where where do you see this going uh civil war civil war divide it up because we can't live together obviously so you we see this it's the thing that if you've been around the right
a long time it'll pop up on facebook on our on internet forums in real life at the thanksgiving dinner with a lot from the guy like this unfortunate man who was just killed by the fbi and And it's this like, we're headed for a civil war.
Like, I don't see how this can end peacefully.
This is gonna end in a, sometimes the line they'll use is national divorce, which is maybe the peaceful version of this.
Split the country.
And the reason we put this in the topic in the show is, I think we could have the debate, like, is this, is this cope?
Which is, there's sort of, I think there's an apocalyptic bias in a lot of conservative people where it's like, it seems really hard to imagine like, oh, change the system politically, you know, win elections, change your city, change your state, change the country.
And instead, it's so much more comforting to think, like, the Democrats, they're gonna screw up so bad that there'll just be this explosion, and there'll be this, like, glorious redemption, and we'll win this civil war somehow, even though we don't have the army, we don't have the FBI, we don't have the police, we don't have the corporations, we would basically just be a bunch of, like, we're all, like, cripplingly obese, so we'd be a bunch of fat people with guns, and you win a civil war!
Woo!
To Jack's point, why hasn't Madonna received a raid from the FBI?
Play cut 120.
Yes, I'm angry.
Yes, I am outraged.
Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
Jack, she didn't get a no.
Well, it wasn't a no-knock raid.
We don't know.
I mean, that's a separate issue.
I think they just wanted to stay away from Madonna.
Do we have that clip?
The clip of the action.
So Charlie, you haven't seen the video yet.
Is that what I'm getting?
No, let's play that.
Let's play cut 118.
I couldn't really hear what was going on there, but it was probably not good.
Yeah, it's it's so we've we've played this.
Yeah, I've played a couple times.
We're trying to get the audio cleaned up.
I've even seen people on Twitter that have that have cleaned this up where they've taken the explosion out to see if you can hear any voices or anything in that.
Oh, I heard the audio.
Someone saying that we couldn't hear the audio at all.
So you could you could hear like there's some kind of argument.
There's some kind of argument going on.
Then there is.
And this is so if folks didn't hear the audio on the podcast side, there's some kind of argument.
There's some screaming.
It's hard to tell what's being said or who's who, you know, who's saying what, basically.
But then a flashbang goes off and then the video cuts off because the guy I guess the guy either either he stopped filming or that's the only part of the film that he's Yeah, and so some people say that this was more of a hit than it was of a raid, right?
That could be.
It could be, but I guess I would say that just, to me, that ends up, we sound a lot like, you know, these Antifa every single time.
You know, one of them is, you know, he was just turning his life around and then the police showed up and shot him just because he pulled a gun out of his waistband and waved it like a maniac.
And there is an element of, you know, play very stupid games and win very stupid prizes.
Well, that's the FAFO thing, right?
Which I, Not exactly sympathetic with, but yeah, go ahead, Jack.
But that's not what I've seen people say online, right?
I haven't seen anyone necessarily defend the, you know, try to say that the guy didn't do anything wrong.
I haven't seen anyone say anything like that.
What I have seen people say was, why did the FBI decide to do this when, and I'd love to do this too, that, you know, we have a photo and I posted this on Twitter earlier and the New York Post actually ran it.
Where this was a guy who was not only well-known and well-liked in his community, he was a carpenter who had just put together a ramp for like a disabled neighbor, someone who's pretty well-known, a regular churchgoer.
It seemed like there were probably ways to do this that would have been better and safer, not only for the defendant, in this case the suspect, but probably safer for the FBI agents too.
That's definitely fair.
I think that there's almost, you know, kind of the thing, like when you, all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Like when all you have is your whole SWAT loadout to go around and raid anyone who posts something insane on Facebook, everyone looks like a domestic terrorist.
So to be fair, this is a normal church activity to do this kind of stuff within Mormon culture.
OCLDS.
Yeah.
I mean, Provo.
Yeah.
He's like, but I mean, to, to be like, again, he just.
You mean the ramp, not the post?
Yeah, I mean the ram.
Not the agitating the FBI.
Back in the early days, I mean, the Mormons were known to agitate the government.
The only religion ever to be outlawed by a state government.
Sorry, continue.
Yeah, and then they showed up to Utah and then They ran them out of Utah.
Have they repealed that law?
I wonder if they technically have.
In Missouri?
Oh, it got repealed like a few years ago.
I think Mitt Romney was running there.
Mitt wouldn't make a campaign stop because it was legal to kill him.
That is true.
There's also ongoing excavation projects in Missouri too, I think.
All right.
So, uh, how did we get on that?
Oh, but yeah, I mean, look, if they wanted to arrest him, why couldn't they get him to go to his car when they're going to the car?
I'm afraid here's the truth of it.
And we may never know because this is not as big of a deal.
And we know from Waco and Ruby Ridge that there's some really bad people that can be in the FBI.
We know that.
Here's my opinion.
They saw this chatter.
They saw this guy was talking a big game.
They said, let's go saddle up.
We're going to bring in SWAT big time and we're going to go bring in guns a blazing.
That's my fear of what happened here.
We may never be able to prove it, but we know from federal activity before that that's very possible.
You know, we're going to go after the guy that talks a big game.
And was he actually brandishing a weapon?
Was that's an interesting question.
OK, we got to keep moving along.
Do I have an ad read or.
OK, do you believe in miracles?
Yes, as Al Michaels would say.
One of the greatest international sports moments in American history right up there with the miracle on ice against the Russians.
Michael Phelps winning his 15th gold.
Play cut 108.
Rapinoe breaks it over the bar.
USA.
USA!
I have never been more proud.
I have never been more proud of my country.
Who posted Jack?
Were you the one that posted her with blonde hair?
And she was like, actually, yeah, yeah, I think it was you, Jack.
Somebody posted her with blonde hair, like a normal human being.
Like, what's her face on MSNBC before she went?
She didn't use to look like, she didn't use to stylize herself this way.
She didn't use to try to go this whole Woke icon thing where even like Lego is making little, what do you call them?
The Lego figurines of her.
Minifigures.
Minifigures.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nerd deck.
That she was like a normal soccer playing woman who didn't act like this at all until she got a taste of the spotlight.
And until she started chasing that dragon of More dopamine hits.
I'm fighting for equal rights, equal pay, et cetera, et cetera.
And then suddenly goes and blows it at the last minute.
But keep in mind that this is the same U.S.
women's team that also lost.
I think it was to Blake was the 15 and under club.
I think it was an elite.
It was as Dallas, I believe, like Dallas elite.
This was a few years ago.
They might have been another recent world, but it was like elite middle school squad from the Dallas area was the one from years ago.
And Yeah, I was just thinking, you said, you know, she used to be a normal soccer-playing woman, and now it's like you put each of those in quotes, so it'd be like, normal soccer-playing woman.
That's exactly right.
But, you know, I think, yeah, I think we have to regard this as a patriotic triumph.
As a future U.S.
president once said, I like to see bad people fail.
And, you know, she failed.
I'm happy about it.
And it's too bad.
I'm sure some, some I assume are good people.
And it's too bad that, you know, Megan Rapinoe took over this entire team.
Was it like Pino or Rapinoe?
I don't care.
Good answer.
You know, she took it over for this like vanity political project and made it, you know, a politics thing instead of a national pride thing and made it so like, And then, you know, oh, what was my greatest career highlight?
Like making it so that our men's national team is worse because we have to divert all this funding to this like ascended middle school squad to win their World Cup.
And, you know, I think it's very American for us to be very annoyed by that and to see a comeuppance.
It's a form of justice.
I think new American is the phrase, right?
I spelled N-U American.
It's very new American.
Well, this is just like Colin Kaepernick, though, with just like everybody ended up rooting against him, right?
It's the same thing.
And then like he woke up one day, he's like, you know, Nike's not there and everybody's not there and you lose and you don't make teams and then everybody's like laughing at you.
She's kind of coming to this realization that like, Maybe, hopefully, that everybody really does, like, there's more haters than lovers.
Well, look, let's be honest.
More people are now talking about women's soccer and actually watching women's soccer because of them losing than if they actually would have been in the final.
And this was like Brittany Griner at the WNBA, right?
It's like, nothing made me more irritated than seeing a full stadium walking Brittany Griner home.
It's like, so I'm sure the left is going to try to turn this into like some like hero's arc, you know, like she's down and out and like she's going to come back and they're going to do some kind of crap to like.
I think this was her last game, though.
I think she's retired.
It is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a last game.
This is our last game, but they're going to try to find something.
Unless we try to give her.
What if she runs for president?
Oh, my gosh.
What if she runs for office?
Don't say that.
Totally will.
I've got it.
I've got it.
Tyler, you just put it together.
She should challenge.
The Russians women's team in Moscow and then head over there and then Putin, if you're listening, if you're listening, maybe you can take care of it.
Maybe you can Britney Griner the problem for it.
Sure.
or something and why is she not wearing any clothes not even looking at a kid asking her to sign a soccer ball she why is she dressed like this play cut 124 so that's at the that's at the espies right you're You're my hero.
She's thinking about her run for President of Canada.
Blake, you have that outfit, right?
You were wearing that in the studio the other day.
He's got the jacket.
Can we send Jack to Russia and have Putin Brittany Griner him for a bit?
So is that her wife or her partner?
24 hours, I will end it.
No, but is this her partner next to her?
Why do they dress like that?
It's like award show stuff, Charlie.
It's high fashion.
Oh, high fashion from Mr. Mustache.
Yeah.
High fashion.
Okay, so then let's play another piece of tape here.
Megan Rapinoe.
Philosopher.
Philosopher.
Play Cut 109.
What do you have to say?
What do you deserve?
You deserve all of it.
Everything.
You deserve this.
She belongs.
Wokeism makes you lose, ruins your mind, and ruins you as a person.
The U.S.
women's soccer team is a very good example of what's going on.
This one ended, but the fight to get there, all the way to PKs and obviously not going your way in the end.
Yeah, I thought we played really well.
I thought we played really well.
I'm so happy for us that we went out like that, playing the way that we did and, you know, having a ton of joy on the ball.
I mean, this is like a sick joke for me personally.
I'm just like, this is dark comedy.
I missed a penalty.
And yeah.
This is dark comedy.
She's moved on to her next role running for president of Panem.
Panem!
Whatever.
Panem.
In all seriousness though, I can totally see her running for office.
And that disturbs me.
And there's going to be a lot of that, by the way.
I think there's going to be... I think the unfortunate... If we're successful in making sure that we have a Republican president this next election cycle, I think you're going to see a huge swing to the opposite where the left is going to be running.
More celebrity-style candidates, even more so than they do now.
Because they're not.
They don't have that right now.
They're not running that.
Boring and transactional.
It's boring and transactional, and so I think there's going to be positives and negatives to that.
The positive is that I think it's going to actually put us in a place where we can make sure that we win, as long as we have the infrastructure for that.
The negative is you're going to have, like, Megan's, like, as U.S.
Senators, and that's going to be a real problem.
Yeah, so let's play Cup 125.
So, Jack, should we draft more candidates like this?
B-roll's going to play.
Can we do side-by-side with this?
If you don't hate her yet, just give me a chance.
You see this, Jack?
Can you see what we're looking at?
Ooh, look at this.
This is the, this is the, um, this is the, the, this is the, uh, the funky Rapinoe, apparently.
Yes, the funkier, you know, also known as, I mean, also known as the COVID shuffle or the Pfizer shuffle.
You know, if you have enough boosters, that's basically how your body reacts.
Uh, when they all hit at the same time, that's if you combine, by the way, Pfizer, Moderna and Ozempic all at once, this is you, you get, you know, um, I, I look, I just think Tyler's right.
I think that we are going to see a place where, because, okay.
So America has broken essentially into several camps at this point, um, You know, obviously Tyler was completely wrong when he disagreed with me earlier on this, but that was completely right.
As per usual.
And then Because America has become more polarized and essentially more tribal, if Megan Rapinoe can find an area where there's just enough people in her tribe, that's why what Tyler's saying is right about either a Senate seat, definitely there are congressional seats she could run for.
I know y'all have an interesting senator there in Arizona, by the way, who's not exactly like this, but definitely interesting sort of bird herself, that we are going to see more of it.
We're just definitely going to see more of it.
Yeah, I mean, she definitely kissed Kirsten Stenema right for her money.
That's for sure.
Kirsten's actually become less lesbian since she got into the office.
Yeah, I know.
She's acting much more heterosexual as the general election increases.
She probably wishes that she ran somewhere else.
I didn't know that Megan Rapinoe is hooking up with Sue Bird.
I don't even know who that is.
Former basketball player.
WNBA?
I am proud I didn't know that.
Big deal growing up.
Is she related to Larry Bird?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
You could actually... No, her parents are not.
It's not Larry Bird.
So... Not related.
Good luck having kids, Megan.
So what is the next topic?
Want to go to Prager?
While we're on the WNBA, we didn't cover this.
We did promise people Prager.
Just real quick.
Did you hear about this thing with Diana Taurasi?
No.
So the Phoenix Mercury wouldn't even recognize her for her birthday and didn't say like, or was it Diana Taurasi?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
I'm getting this all wrong.
We'll come back to this.
We'll come back to this.
It wasn't Diana Taurasi.
Somebody else.
Is one of the other WNBA players that nobody knows.
She's pregnant.
She's out on... She's having a baby.
And they didn't even wish her a happy birthday.
WNBA.
Because they don't want to focus on her being out having a baby.
All right.
Ready for Prager?
This is probably going to take some time.
Are we ready for this?
Yes.
I don't know.
Do we have an ad read?
Yeah.
This is going to be something.
OK, do we know reads?
OK, so Jack, do you want to queue this up?
Should I?
I think that so I Charlie, you go for it because this is this is your wheelhouse, man.
Yeah, I mean, I really like Dennis.
He's a dear friend.
And I have listened to probably more Dennis Prager content than probably anybody alive, honestly, especially I've listened to all of his You listen to more Dennis Brager than Dennis Bragerek.
That's probably true.
And I remember it, and I take notes.
I've gotten a lot out of it.
His lectures on Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy is amazing.
So I know the mind of Dennis pretty well.
I read all of his op-eds.
He has really significantly enriched my life.
So when I found out Jordan Peterson, who I have respect for, but I obviously disagree on some things, and Dennis were doing this Exodus series, I got really excited by The Daily Wire.
And I watched it.
I flagged this way, way, way, way long time ago, because I saw it all of a sudden out of nowhere, they started talking about pornography in this kind of exodus series.
I was like, well, that's probably going to make people interested.
And then I just kind of moved on.
By the way, Dennis's thoughts on pornography have remained consistent for decades.
This is not some sort of new thing.
I could point to like a 1990 lecture where he said the same thing.
Now, so, isolated from that Exodus clip, Daily Wire, it went viral on YouTube because Dennis said something, basically it could be interpreted as normalizing pornography in marriage.
And so then he goes on a long-form interview with Pints with Aquinas, which is a great YouTube channel.
I think he's in Steubenville, Ohio, right, Jack?
The Catholic University there, right?
It's Franciscan University.
Yeah, so it's kind of his podcast thing.
He's very, very Catholic.
In Australia.
Yeah.
And so he has this long form interview that I saw right when it came out.
And again, I was like, Oh, well, that's probably going to go viral.
And it didn't.
And then now out of nowhere, it did.
Now we're going to play the clip.
I'm not going to defend Dennis's stance here.
I will broadly say that I think people are being unfair to Dennis and I will defend that, but He doesn't make it easy, by the way, to defend him in some ways, because he does take some sharper positions I don't share.
But this is the position that I do not share with Dennis at all.
PlayCut 110, this one is now going mega viral.
PlayCut 110.
Would you use the word evil of animated child pornography?
Because I certainly would.
No, I would use evil only with behavior.
That's where we might differ from forgetting the sex issue.
You can't be evil You didn't do evil if you thought evil.
If I'm masturbating to animated pictures of pornography, I'm not doing something evil.
That's correct.
Yeah, I think that's, I think that's despicable.
Now, if you see that clip and you get thrown into it, you're like, holy mother of goodness.
There was a, Jack, you saw this, right?
There was a long wind up to get to that place.
Okay.
I'll say it, Charlie.
I saw it the opposite way that you saw it, because I saw it the way you just bribed.
In that I saw this clip first, and then I think the very first thing I did was I was like, I gotta message Charlie to make sure he saw this thing.
And then true to form, you said, hey, watch the whole thing.
This is part of a longer thing, which I then did.
And it's very layered, right?
So what I want to just say is that this conversation was actually them agreeing on almost everything.
Right?
Agreeing, agreeing, agreeing, agreeing, agreeing.
And Dennis was not necessarily defending pornography, nor is that his position.
His belief is this, which is a typical mainline Jewish belief, which is only your behavior will be judged by God.
It's actually not consistent with the scriptures.
Thou shalt not covet is a thought crime.
Actually, a thought sin.
It's the only one that leads to so much bad.
But Jack, I want you to riff on this because this is going viral.
Are people being unfair to Dennis?
Where do you agree or disagree on this?
Because this has now opened up millions of people talking about the issue of pornography, Judaism, the Prager, the Torah.
Your thoughts.
So I think there's, I think there's a couple things going on here though.
I think just at, at its, at its first and foremost, that watching pornography of any form, of any form, now he's talking about the reason they say animated in this point is in the, is due, because they're doing a thought experiment, they're performing a thought experiment.
And so to take out the fact That a human being would be involved in either exploited or traffic or whatever have you regarding the creation of this particular form of pornography.
I think, though, that in that case, whether it's animated or not, I don't even think animated is the right word to use anymore.
What we should actually use is the word AI, because that's going to be the next level of pornography is going to be AI porn.
These systems that we don't have much control over, just like the way my TV likes to go off right when I'm in the middle of monologuing.
But essentially that the viewing of this corrupts you, regardless of whether or not people are in the other people are involved in the creation or in the act of the pornography.
And here's why, because you are giving in your immortal soul to the temptations of the flesh.
You are all sin originate in the mind.
And so the end and furthermore, not only are you giving into these carnal base urges, but at the same time, you are going to start seeking out more and more of them.
This is what puts you on a path to actual child porn, by the way.
That would have been my response if I were in that situation.
The Aquinas host... Yeah, Jack, you've gone into the sixth layer of hell.
I'm in the twilight zone here.
You're in...
That's where you'll go if you look at too much of it.
Yeah, and so I just want to make sure that people understand Dennis' position.
The key point, because there was this long layer up where Dennis says, look, I do not like video pornography.
I don't justify it.
He does think that images of naked women is acceptable.
That's a separate issue.
I don't agree with him at all on that.
But there was this question of child predators.
And what Dennis said is that I would rather have a pedophile watch animated child pornography that does not include a victim than to actually...
So that's a very layered conversation.
It's very nuanced, but then it got into the question of, is it evil?
The Catholic and or evangelical position, they would agree, is that it is ugly and evil regardless of whether or not somebody acts on it.
A thing does not cease to be ugly or evil whether or not someone looks at it.
Blake, what are your thoughts?
I mean, I think that has to be the take on it, which is like, it's bad.
Yes, it's bad because it exploits people, but it's also bad for its own sake, because for its own sake, it makes you a worse person to do it.
You are now a person who is, you know, using essentially child pornography that is that is making you a worse person regardless of what you do.
In the outer world, even if the relationship that often has is an indicator of how it does make you a worse person.
And in some ways, Dennis is being very precise with his language because he would say that it was ugly.
He would say that it's profane, but he stopped short of evil because in a very strict Jewish reading of the Torah, evil only involves victims, meaning that if you think something or you're internal, that's not evil until you act upon it.
Which is very different from, again, Christian theology, you know, again, Philippians 4, 8, which everybody knows and has heard before.
Whatsoever things are true, honest, you know, just, pure, lovely.
Think on these things.
Good report.
We, of any praise, we think of these things, right?
So that's, that's, that's the good thing to separate between, again, our good friend Dennis, who's not Christian, correct?
Versus Christians, as most Christians would find that absolutely horrific.
Even going down that pathway of that conversation?
Yes.
And I've sat on an entire plane ride.
We've sat on a plane ride.
We had a disagreement with him.
Actually talking about this, right?
Because we had a Catholic, Evangelical, a Mormon, and a Jew.
We won't say who, but yeah.
All four sitting around.
And we had a conversation about this subject matter.
And we just disagree, right?
And what they did talk about in this podcast, which is important, is that there are gradations of sin.
So Jack, as a Catholic, you would agree that the action is obviously worse than the thought, but it does not make that the thought is not evil itself, especially if you engage in the thought.
And that is where Dennis, where I would have pushed back the most is, It's if you have a random weird thought, God's not going to judge you on it.
But then engaging in animated child pornography is pushing energy focus into the evil thing, which then, as you said, Jack, grows an attachment towards that evil thing.
Right.
So what you're doing is you're you're moving that into because that that what you're calling a random erratic thought and errant thought, those are temptation.
Those are temptations that are sent Constantly.
That we're faced with constantly.
They arise constantly.
You can reject temptation more than you can give into temptation.
So there is this much longer piece, you know, where Dennis says, well, what about, you know, what if you walk by like a Victoria's Secret at the mall or you, you know, somebody leaves a lingerie catalog out or something like that.
And you start to think impure thoughts is that coveted.
And then he starts kind of getting into the, you know, the nature of the word and the etymology, et cetera.
Got it.
Right.
But, you know, I like the way that you put it out, Charlie, and you and I were texting about this when it first crossed everyone's radar, when it was going viral, that kind of led to this discussion today, where I really like the way you put it because there are three sets here, right?
There's three sets.
It's thought, But then action, but you pointed out, Charlie, there's a medium ground, and I want to give it to you.
What is that middle ground between thought and action?
This is actually, I've come up with this myself after dealing with it, because I don't think thoughts are nearly as bad as actions, but thoughts can be bad, which is attitudes.
So I think attitudes are the middle.
So you have independent private thoughts, and then you have attitudes, which you assume, and then you have stated actions, right?
Attitudes are not... It's like a habitual... Yes, that's right.
A habitual thought.
A habitual attitude in you.
Exactly.
Or something you dwell on, which Tyler beautifully said, Philippians 4.8, is saying, think on these things.
This is what your attitude should be.
True things, honorable things, right things, pure things, lovely things, good things.
If they're excellent or praiseworthy, dwell on them, marinate on them.
And so, you know, looking and masturbating To like animated child porn, which is despicable.
I hate even saying it.
Honestly, it's like so beyond me.
I it'll be a yeah, but but it is evil because look in Aristotle would say a thing is good for its own sake and therefore something is evil for its own sake, right?
It could get better or worse if you engage with the thing.
I want to replay the clip, though, because some people are asking about it, and I want to make sure, because it happens really fast.
Understand the pretext and the context.
They're agreeing, agreeing, agreeing, agreeing, and it's this question of, is it evil?
So it's semantics, and Dennis is not justifying it.
I have to defend Dennis here, because it's a little unfair the way this has been cut.
Dennis is saying it is better for a pedophile to watch animated child pornography than to go after kids.
That is not a hill I would die on.
Let me just put it that way.
It's all bad.
It's all trash.
It's all venom.
It's all despicable.
Let's play Cut 110 again, please.
Would you use the word evil of animated child pornography?
Because I certainly would.
No, I would use evil only with behavior.
That's where we might differ from forgetting the sex issue.
You can't be evil.
You didn't do evil if you thought evil.
If I'm masturbating to animated pictures of pornography, I'm not doing something evil.
That's correct.
Yeah, I think that's despicable.
I agree.
I agree with the host.
It is despicable.
Well, I'll tell you what I think and then I'll tell you my theology.
The truth I was raised religiously was that thoughts always precede actions.
And so that's the reason why thoughts matter so much is there's not a single actions ever been taken For the most part, that's truly evil without a thought preceding it.
I actually think that it's the opposite.
I think that actions that are bad, that actually had no thought to them, would probably be more forgivable than the ones that have thoughts.
Like road rage?
Where you just kind of get out of control.
I was just going to bring it up, bro.
I was literally just going to bring it up.
Or your brain just, like, snaps, right?
And you do something stupid.
Or you just, like, punch somebody you don't even think about.
No, I completely agree, actually.
And so this comes back to me, like, sin, to me, has always been, this has always just been something I have, is it's just distraction.
So like, to me, I think that, you know, in the greater eternal perspective of how we live our lives, is the difference between sin very good.
And I think this goes back to this conversation with with Dennis, which was, I think part of his argument is that there's so little difference in the great eternal spectrum of our mortal sin, that it's just like, yeah, I just like, there's no difference, right?
Like, there's just like, to me, it's like, there's a big difference in the action.
Are we allowed to open it up?
Immortality.
I was just going to say this is just real quickly.
It's just like, I think to me, the greatest part, I think that the devil wants us to do is to be distracted.
And confused and to waste time because your time is precious on this earth.
The most precious time that you have on this earth, if you believe in a post-life, afterlife, whatever, right?
Is that in heaven and that and the doctrine of heaven is that if you waste time here, anytime that you waste here, you are not doing good and you're not serving the kingdom.
You're not serving God.
You're not serving your brethren.
You're not serving your family.
And you're not learning.
And I think learning is like the greatest thing that you can do on this earth.
And sin prevents you from doing that.
So that's why to me, thoughts like your thoughts are going to occupy your time.
They're going to occupy your consciousness, they're going to occupy your they're going to distract you.
And that's what that's what I think that's what this that's what Lucifer wants.
That's what Satan wants.
So just to further build out Dennis's position on pornography, just because I think that's actually important, which is, I disagree with him on this, but I just wanna make sure everyone knows his position, where he will come, and he talked about this, right, Jack, in the Pints with Aquinas, his father, right?
His father was an Orthodox Jew who also was a Playboy subscriber, right?
So that was the context of his- But they were in a house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that there is really there was nothing necessarily.
He was raised to believe urination and masturbation were basically the same thing.
OK.
And that and I don't hold that belief.
And I hope they have a great debate on that, by the way, in in the longer.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah.
So and anyway, so that's he he believes that That male sexuality needs to have pressure releases, and if they are not given pressure releases where there is no necessary victim, then they're going to commit adultery, and they're going to do all these other different things.
In a very strict Catholic, because I'm just going to use Jack the Host was Catholic, he said, no, no, no, that's not honorable.
That's not acceptable at all, right?
In fact, you engage— We call it moral relativism.
Yes, moral relativism.
Now, what Prager would say is, well, would you agree that looking at Playboy is not as bad as adultery?
Of course, no one's making that argument.
There are gradations of sin, right?
Cheating on your wife is worse than pornography.
That does not make pornography beautiful, or good, or virtuous, or desirable.
And what the biggest pushback that Prager receives is that it feels as if he is beginning to justify the consumption of pornography.
Is that fair to say, Jack, is that the biggest pushback that he, what you tell me, what is the internet chatter around this?
I'm curious, but, but even even because that there's a longer discussion where he talks about pornography that I haven't necessarily seen gone viral, but because I went back and watched the episode, I saw it, um, where he does talk about justifications for pornography within the confines of marriage, where essentially he's saying, well, where he does talk about justifications for pornography within the confines of marriage, where essentially he's saying, well, if you know, if, if, if you've lost the spark and you need something to
And you're watching it together amidst a communal act, et cetera, et cetera.
By the way, I know that my parents are watching this as I'm talking about it, and probably my wife too.
But at the same time, he's saying that it's still good and where Matt basically just disagrees completely with him in that sense, because it still feels, I believe, and I think everyone knows that it's still a form of engaging with pornography at that point.
And though, Charlie, there's another point that I want to that I would like to ask you that I think you'd be able to describe this better, because I didn't quite pick it up.
They were, you know, in the middle of a debate there.
Um, but he says, well, he brings up that question of the thought crime, right?
The thought crime, which is in the Ten Commandments about covet and this idea of now it's neighbor's wife, neighbor's goods.
Obviously in this case, we're talking about neighbor's wife.
Uh, and so I think most people would think of covet, um, in, in synonymous with desire, wish for, yearn for, uh, these, these types of, of synonyms, but, but Dennis had a different sense Or he said, no, it's when you make plans to go and commit that action.
And I didn't quite follow what he was saying.
Yeah, so this is hotly debated in a lot of rabbinical circles.
I actually don't think this is that complicated, because there are other Old Testament scriptures in the Tanakh, which we would just call the Old Testament.
Jack, you guys have a couple extra books, but in the traditional Old Testament... Well, you've written old.
The ones that the Jews believe are divinely inspired is what we evangelicals read.
You guys have a different version.
That's fine.
Okay, we just happen to go with what Jesus had.
Yeah, so the... Jesus did not believe that Maccabees was divinely inspired.
That's a separate issue.
We'll have that conversation later.
So, there's other verses in Proverbs and Isaiah that talk about how your thoughts and your heart... Here's a great... Let me prove it to you, okay?
So, in Genesis 5, when God goes down to basically say, we have to have a flood, it wasn't just the actions of the people.
It was that their hearts were darkened.
And that's amazing when you think about it.
It was God was like, they're so beyond redemption that their entire hearts were darkened.
It's like Genesis five or Genesis six.
I'll find it.
And so to covet is to, I think, I think the attitude is the best explanation, Jack.
It's that I am going to assume an identity energy.
I am going to put forward a plan, and there is a great question.
In fact, there's a great article that I encourage you guys to read.
It's written by rabbis.
Is coveting a feeling or is it an action?
I actually think it's an attitude.
I think it's something in between.
That's where your heuristic comes into play, because it It's not a binary that there is that sort of third level.
But then also, I guess my response to that would be then if you're saying that that's the nature of covetousness, then wouldn't engaging in this type of this type of content, this type of material be by its own nature, then also coveted?
Yes.
And so let's play a couple of pieces of tape here and let Dennis's words speak for himself.
Play cut 131, please.
I am not advocative of watching sexual behavior.
I want to know what you mean by the word behavior.
Because if I'm going to say... Sexual activity between two people.
Okay, so even a photograph in Playboy of two people engaging in a... But there weren't such... When my father got... You're opposed to that, but you're okay with a man looking at one naked woman, let's say.
Yes, or they weren't even naked then.
They were covered in their privates.
Right.
But you're opposed to them looking at anything that might be arousing.
What if a woman is wearing a regular... What if a man is turned on, which every man is, by an attractive woman in a nice dress?
That's a turn-on.
So, no, no, no, please answer.
I will.
So is that bad?
But in another sense, if I'm looking at a lingerie catalogue with the intention of lusting, that that wouldn't be okay.
What if I'm looking at the lingerie catalogue with the intention of getting my wife lingerie?
I think the intention does matter, yeah.
I agree.
I think the intention does matter.
Yeah, there's no good intent to AI-generated child porn.
There's no.
That's what makes it so profane and ugly, because there's not a single redeeming quality for its existence.
And therefore it is, it is ugly.
It is, it is terrible.
Well, this is why the Hasidic, I'm sorry.
Do we have any libertarians in the comments right now, by the way?
We'll get to them with the deep web reveal soon enough.
Yeah, we're running out of time actually.
Yeah, actually, Blake, you could probably pull that up because those would be the, the, who I'm talking about essentially.
In one moment.
I just want to foreshadow that we are headed towards a very, like, a very dark time, and I'm not sure people fully grasp how messed up it's going to be.
Like, yeah, we have the discussion about, yeah, they'll say AI-generated porn.
Okay.
But that doesn't just mean like, oh, you can, you know, randomly generate stuff.
What it means is like, you could literally, like, Download every single photo of a kid off an Instagram and plug it into a generator and say, manufacture this.
Or, it doesn't have to be kids, of course.
It's just like, take every single photo of your high school crush.
Take every single photo of your college ex-girlfriend.
anyone and plug it in and you can have an ai generate a relatively like already the tech marginally exists for this now imagine where it will be in two years five years 10 years 50 years and you know you get these freaking vr helmets that they have and they can put on and like the amount of technology if we if you don't just take a hard line and say like porn is bad yes it's just it's going to blow out people's brains we We cannot, there is no nuance with this topic right now.
And that's where I'm at, which is like, it's so toxic, the walls fall off, you fall off the cliff instantaneously.
Like, that has to be the position.
It's not like, well, maybe if you do it, nope.
Hard stop.
Okay, let's get a deep web reveal because we're running out of time.
So the deep web reveal is, you know, Charlie, we've had our discussion about, you know, pornography on the show the last few days.
The last 30 minutes.
You know, but on the show also... Is this the time where you guys embarrass me?
Well, no, the show where we had the Louisiana law that was, you know, successfully curbing Pornhub traffic.
And we were getting some emails and people were really, really angry.
Like, grr, don't, don't come after this.
I have totally libertarian reasons for opposing this.
We did receive a couple hundred.
We have pro-porn libertarians that listen to The Charlie Brown Show.
Many, many such cases.
And now we have a meme that describes these people and the term for them is Coomers.
And we're going to have the image and it's going to pop up here, please.
Do we do we get that, Ryan?
No, we're not actually going to wait.
Wait, you're not actually going to show the.
Wait, hold on.
We're not going to show the whole meme, but we can show the little image that I set up for you, Ryan.
What?
We can totally do it.
We can totally do it.
It's not bad.
Uh, but it's a label, it's a meme that exists.
Oh, there we go, yeah, so we got that.
So this is your typical Reddit user, your typical libertarian who's sending emails to the Charlie Kirk Show.
He's got bloodshot eyes, he tragically kind of has the exact same facial hair that I do.
I was gonna say, Blake, that looks awfully similar.
No, stop it, stop it.
Was that intentional?
No, no, this is, uh, I'm gonna have to listen to my friend and shave this.
I'll probably shave next week.
Is that, so the deep web reveal is a sketch of you?
No, no!
Anyway, anyway it is a, it is a...
Yeah, so it represents the typical Reddit user whose life, to a surprisingly deep degree, revolves around their access to pornography, AI-generated or not, gets very angry about AI laws, and it's a surprisingly central part of their existence.
Maybe I should not say surprisingly, because when you encounter them online, or even worse, in real life, it gets really bad.
When I was in... I used to work at the Daily Caller, and I once covered a Bernie Sanders rally, And there was a man walking around the Bernie Sanders rally who was about, I would guess, 40, 45.
And he just had a shirt on.
It was just plain white with red letters.
And it said on it, Massachusetts, this was in Massachusetts, Massachusetts should legalize prostitution.
That's all it said.
And it's like, that's your issue?
And he's like, yes, that is my issue.
And he was all in for the Bernie bros.
And I'm sure he would be an excellent coomer.
So then do we say, OK, Coomer?
Yes, we could.
Yeah, I think it comes from that.
It comes from boomer memes like it come boomers, groomers, coomers, zoomers, doomers.
Everyone's funny.
Everyone has humor at the end of it.
I feel like it looks like Dave Portnoy.
Does anyone else think it looks like Dave Portnoy of Barstool?
That doesn't look like Dave.
I endorse.
I endorse.
It now looks like Dave Portnoy.
Yeah, Blake just set himself up.
I didn't set myself up.
I sacrificed my dignity for the sake of content.
That's my commitment to this program.
That's the commitment.
Have we ever seen both you and that sketch in the same place?
On this show, apparently.
They were just right next to each other.
You're saying that we're... Alright, Jack.
Final thoughts.
That was a lively one.
What is a boomer?
The problem is, Charlie, you know, when it really comes down to it, that you've got so much accessibility to this these days.
AI is here now.
Video AI is probably going on at this very moment.
At the same time, you are going to have the ability.
Imagine once you get knurling involved with this type of thing.
Imagine when you have memories that are able to be recorded and then shared and uploaded on the Internet.
People running around Thailand, running around Phuket.
And, uh, uploading things to a vast neural network.
I think it is literally going to drive people insane at some point.
And, uh, look, you know, growing up with, uh, some Playboys around the house is one thing from a long time ago, but it isn't like that anymore.
What parents or anybody out there needs to understand.
So parents, number one, you got to stand, it's in your house already because it's on every phone, right?
It's instantly accessible.
And for anyone out there that's, that's listening to this, It's not the way to run your life, right?
You're going to be chasing that dopamine, you're going to be chasing those highs, you're going to be chasing that, as opposed to actually chasing a meaningful relationship with your spouse or your significant other.
You know, you could follow a good example from a future U.S.
president who was interviewed on the Howard Stern Show, and he was asked how frequently he engaged in that activity, and he said, I was never into that world.
Right.
He was never into that world.
Don't get into that world.
It's a dark world.
I'll do it, folks.
Final thoughts, Tyler Boyer?
I am disavowing all, you know, all of the conversation on very publicly on approving of any kind of child porn.
I don't think that that should ever happen.
And I want, that's a bold statement, right?
It's a bold statement where we're at.
Stunning and brave.
But going back, I think that we have a big week ahead of us here with, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens between Iowa And the Milwaukee debates that we have in two weeks.
Everyone should stay tuned.
Buckle up.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Are you going to be in Milwaukee?
I don't have a choice.
Oh, you have to?
Is it roll call?
It's the RNC meetings in two weeks.
I do not envy you.
Blake?
What's up?
Any final thoughts?
No, I've been distracted.
You've sufficiently sunk your reputation.
We're a burning ship, sinking ship, both at the same time.
Blake is a fan favorite, I'll tell you what.
Alright everybody, until next week, keep committing thought crimes.
Keep the faith.
And we will see you next week.
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Yes, sir.
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