July 28, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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EPISODE 527: THE TRUTH ABOUT OPPENHEIMER AND RFK JR. WITH ROGER STONE
On today’s can’t miss episode of Human Events, Jack Posobiec is joined by none other than Roger Stone for an incredible, important conversation. Stone and Poso breakdown the 2024 election and the dramatic impact RFK Jr. could make on the Biden campaign. They also dissect the Truth about Oppenheimer cutting through all the static surrounding the Christopher Nolan film with cold hard facts about the man himself. Jack is also joined by the CEO of RedBalloon, Andrew Crapuchettes to discuss the im...
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New indictment on President Trump and one of his maintenance men, one that includes, by the way, a phone call, supposedly, between the two of them, Do the DOJ and Jack Smith have Mar-a-Lago wired?
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But we've also got new developments in the 2024 Horse race.
We're looking at Vivek Ramaswamy now coming in second place, surpassing Ron DeSantis in his home state, Vivek's home state of Ohio.
And then on the Democrat side, you've got RFK out there eating up 20% in the polls against sitting President Joe Biden.
You know, asterisk next to his name.
To help me break down this and so much more, we bring on longtime legendary political strategist and operative Roger Stone.
Roger, thanks for joining us again here at Human Events.
Jack, great to be with you.
I have great reverence for Human Events.
It is one of the foundational publications of the entire conservative movement.
Roger, when we look at the current state of play in the primaries on both sides, to me it looks as though, on the Republican side, it looks as though this race is wrapping up quite quickly, a lot faster than people realized.
But then on the Democrat side, you have a huge surge for RFK.
We've got two minutes, I'll hold you over after the break.
Explain to us the dynamic that you're seeing now.
Well, I agree with you on the Republican side.
What's amazing is that Vivek Ramaswamy seems to be climbing, despite the fact that he, unlike Ron DeSantis, has not spent millions of dollars advertising in some of the early states.
So this is just on the basis of his performance on the stump and his free media approach.
I think he's helped by the fact that his basic campaign messaging Has been supportive of President Donald Trump and has been a major critic of those who are trying to disqualify Trump through the use of lawfare.
DeSantis, by my calculations, may be out of money by October.
In other words, if you look at the small percentage of money that he's getting from small and medium-sized donors.
And the large number of maxed out maximum contributors, plus the exit of many major bundlers, I think that he's in deep trouble.
And he has spent millions of dollars in these early primary and caucus states, and he's just not getting any traction.
I'm reminded of the story of the guy who was in the dog food manufacturing business who went broke because he couldn't get any orders.
And when they asked him, why did you go broke, he said, well, The dogs just didn't like the stuff.
The dogs just didn't like the stuff.
At some point you do actually have to consider your customers, and it feels as though, and I've had Vivek on the show, I've asked him serious questions, but at the same time it feels just at the end of the day like he's just read the room a little bit better than some of these other candidates.
30 seconds to break, Roger Stone, last word.
Look, no incumbent president who faced a significant challenge but turned it back has gone on to be re-elected.
Robert F. Kennedy definitely poses a serious challenge to Joe Biden and that's why there is increasing panic in the mainstream media and the Biden camp.
I think you're exactly right about that, Roger.
I want to hold you over because that's something that I think that even conservative media hasn't really picked up on very much, even though, to their credit, they've had RFK on many times.
Even Sean Hannity had that town hall where you saw Sean Hannity get his neoconservative desserts served to him.
But I want to stay tuned because I want to talk to Roger more about this and the historical precedent of the RFK race.
Stay tuned.
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Roger, before the break, you were breaking down for us this Interesting historical trend that you've identified with the RFK primary against Joe Biden.
Walk us through this a little bit more.
You're saying that no incumbent president has ever faced a serious challenge from within their own party and then gone on to win re-election.
Does that actually bear out?
Well, in modern times, so for example, Gerald Ford turned back a very spirited challenge from Governor Ronald Reagan went on to lose to Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter turned back a very spirited challenge from Robert F. Kennedy's uncle, Edward Ted Kennedy, which did not go very well but still got huge media coverage, went on to lose that election to Ronald Reagan.
I honestly think that Kennedy is scoring, ironically, not on the issues of health freedom and not even particularly on the issue of peace, which is ironic given the changes in the modern Democratic Party, but on the pocketbook issues, on the hollowing out of the middle class, on on the hollowing out of the middle class, on the fact that housing is not available.
He has a very interesting housing voucher program, a 76% increase in the cost of groceries, the ravaging inflation.
inflation.
These breadbasket issues have always had resonance within the Democratic primary.
And as I think, as Robert Kennedy gets more exposure on those issues, I think he will continue to rise.
I also see in his campaign an extremely skillful use of alternative media.
He really has no choice.
The three major broadcast networks, the two major cable networks, although he gets some coverage on Fox, really have gone out of their way to try to kneecap him, to try to censor him.
Even when he gives an interview on, say, ABC, they heavily edit it to take out sections of his messaging because they say he is spreading, quote, misinformation, as opposed to letting the voters decide whether they believe what he has to say or not.
Yeah, Roger, I just pulled it up as you mentioned here.
So, the last time this occurred, it was to a Democrat.
It was Jimmy Carter, the election of 1980.
And at this, in the same race, once again, you had a Kennedy running against, this was at the sitting senator of Massachusetts, running against his own president.
Now, obviously, Ted Kennedy didn't do very well, but I don't think people realize just how well Kennedy did in that race.
So, I've pulled up here the results.
He won 12 states.
Twelve states across the country, including New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, this is in the primary, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C., North Dakota, South Dakota, both Dakotas, Arizona, Utah, excuse me, Arizona, New Mexico, and California, garnering 37.6%, almost 38% of the Democrat primary.
That's a huge chunk of voters that it looks like many of them did not later turn out for Carter as the eventual nominee, allowing Ronald Reagan to score his upset victory in 1980, which I believe that Roger Stone knows is a little familiar with that particular campaign, having obviously worked on it.
Do you see some of these same trends at play here in the 2023 to 2024 cycle?
I think that everything you say is true.
I also think there's another analogy, and that is I expect the Democratic Party, the machine, which has already changed the Democratic selection process to strip Iowa from its delegates, to strip New Hampshire of its delegates, if they dare hold those contests, which by the way are mandated by state law, before the first South Carolina primary.
The real question of course is, I think Robert Kennedy Still has some of the Camelot mystique.
Still has some of the Kennedy magic.
And therefore, as you move to states that, unlike, say, New Hampshire, where 90 plus percent of the voters are white, as you move to states like Nevada, for example, where you have a larger African American and Hispanic population, I think the Kennedy name has greater resonance.
He is also, I must say, in terms of his performance on the stump, He is extraordinarily articulate.
Now, you will never see Robert Kennedy backed into a corner.
He is very able in terms of producing a study or a series of studies to prove all of his arguments.
It is very, very persuasive.
Now, he has this degenerative condition with his voice.
But in all honesty, after the first five minutes, you become so engrossed in what he is saying that you really don't notice it at all that much.
I think he's running a very innovative campaign given the limitations put on him by mainstream media.
Roger, do you then, that being said, even if he's not able to defeat Joe Biden the way they run their delegates in that process, what do you see as a potential outcome for him if, as I believe, that the, you know, the poohbahs of the Democrat Party, the elites there, will eventually pull the plug on his campaign?
Well, I do think they're going to kneecap him the way they kneecapped Bernie Sanders, but for different reasons.
A very interesting interview he gave to Laura Ingraham about a month ago, when he was asked if he would endorse Joe Biden if he lost the Democratic nomination to him, he essentially said, well, I'd have to think about that.
In politics, that means no.
Then when he was asked if he would be willing to serve in the cabinet of a Republican president, say Donald Trump, he said, well, I'd have to seriously consider that.
Now, it's important to note that there's great historical precedent for this.
Franklin Roosevelt's Secretary of War, Frank Knox, was a Republican.
Barack Obama's Secretary of Transportation, Ray LaHood, Was a Republican congressman from Illinois.
Richard Nixon, Secretary of the Treasury.
John Connolly was a Democrat, later became a Republican.
John F. Kennedy, his uncle, his Secretary of the Treasury.
C. Douglas Dillon, a Republican from New Jersey.
So there is a tradition of having a bipartisan cabinet.
And I think the Kennedy voter is not going to be comfortable with Joe Biden at the end of this process.
I think that populist voter Particularly on the basis of the war and peace issue particularly where Robert Kennedy wants to seal our southern border.
Robert Kennedy is very skeptical about the war in Ukraine.
Those voters I think in the end gravitate to Donald Trump.
You know, that being said, RFK's own father obviously also served in the cabinet, obviously famously for his own brother as Attorney General.
What potential role would you see for him?
Maybe a, I don't know about Secretary of Defense, but DHS, Attorney General, something with more of a legal element to it, or even HHS potentially.
HHS, the head of CDC, but perhaps since he has been very forthright about the role of the Central Intelligence Agency, In the murder of his uncle, John F. Kennedy, and probably in the murder of his father, Robert F. Kennedy Sr., the U.S.
Senator from New York and former Attorney General, I can't think of anybody who'd have a greater motivation to clean out the deep state than Robert Kennedy.
I think he'd be a great Attorney General.
Now, there are some conservatives who may be concerned about his position on some social issues.
I'm pro-life.
He happens to be pro-abortion.
But those policies are set by a president.
They're not set by the Attorney General.
I think on the broader war and peace issues and the abuses by our intelligence agencies, he makes a lot of sense as a potential Attorney General.
Look, this is all completely hypothetical.
As of this moment, Based on everything I've heard him say, I think he's determined to win the Democratic nomination.
And at this point, I don't think Donald Trump is talking about Robert Kennedy.
He's got other things on his mind.
But politics, as you know, can evolve very quickly.
And these kind of decisions will be made in the middle and the end of next year.
Well, I have to imagine, you know, having seen the last RNC convention in 2016, we haven't actually had a convention since that day in Cleveland in 2016.
Imagine the headlines if you get Donald Trump there in Milwaukee, as it'll be later next year, going up and saying that he's announcing that he's going to name RFK Jr.
to his cabinet.
What kind of an effect do you think that would have on the general?
I think it would be electrifying.
Look, I wrote a piece, kind of an outside-the-box piece on my Substack several months ago in which I talked wistfully about a Trump-Kennedy ticket.
Now, let me be very clear.
I don't think either man is open to that idea at this very moment based on everything I have read in my own conversations with Donald Trump.
However, I also recognize the legal obstacles to that.
Robert Kennedy is never going to leave the party of his father and his uncle.
He's a lifelong Democrat.
As he said before Congress, he's dedicated his life to the values of the Democratic Party.
That would not prevent him from serving in the cabinet, but almost 30 states require for a person to be on the ballot as a Republican candidate for federal office, they have to be a registered member of that party.
Which I think really puts a Trump-Kennedy ticket, while a fanciful and interesting idea, probably highly unlikely, and that would be in the event that either man or both men were willing.
On the other hand, service in the cabinet is an entirely different story, and I really see the fusing of a larger populist movement here in both parties, not to mention attracting a number of Roger, we got a quick break.
We're going to come back later with Roger giving us the truth about Oppenheimer.
Can't wait.
I think it would be a very tough combination for the Democrats to beat without, of course, exhorting to the lawfare that they're currently trying to use in an effort to disqualify Trump.
Why?
Because he's running so far ahead of Joe Biden in all of the national polls.
That's why.
Roger, we've got a quick break.
We're going to come back later with Roger giving us the truth about Oppenheimer.
Can't wait.
Stick tuned.
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So, Roger, the whole country's talking about Oppenheimer and Barbie and all these different movies.
It's summertime, people are going to the movie theater.
I watched Oppenheimer, and I thought I was going to be treated to a movie about the building of the atomic bomb, America's victory in World War II, A very rah-rah patriotic film focusing on science.
That's not what the film was about at all.
In fact, the film was a hagiography of Oppenheimer and sought, through Christopher Nolan, and he's a British filmmaker, not an American filmmaker, but really seemed to answer the question as to whether or not Oppenheimer was a communist.
And it spends three hours on this, only about 10 minutes of which you actually see an atomic bomb test.
And this is the Trinity test in New Mexico, where I've actually visited the White Stands Missile Range.
You don't, there's no shots of Hiroshima, there's no shots of Nagasaki, no, you know, American heroes storming the beaches of Iwo Jima, the island hopping, none of this, it's all completely omitted.
But instead, we're feeded to these committee hearings, and Republicans are portrayed as the enemy going after these brave American liberals like Oppenheimer, who, yes, may have flirted with communism at some point, but certainly and obviously had nothing to do with communism whatsoever.
However, they failed to mention that the Manhattan Project itself was penetrated by Soviet intelligence, specifically the NKVD.
And did receive nuclear weapons technology, nuclear weapons systems technology from communist sympathizers within this unit.
This is what kicks off the hearings.
This is the reason that they were being investigated in the first place.
It wasn't a, you know, a direct personal attack.
They had actual evidence of this.
And in fact, there were American spies, or I would say communist spies in America, who were executed over this.
Roger, do you know, and can you lay out for us, what is the true story of Oppenheimer and the communist infiltration in the United States starting back in the 30s all the way through?
Well, this is a typical Hollywood attempt to rewrite history.
They've been at this for some time.
The same people who told us, for example, for decades that Alger Hiss, who accompanied Franklin Roosevelt at Yalta, who was a high-level State Department official in the Roosevelt administration was not a Russian spy.
It was a young congressman, Richard Nixon, who first took the testimony of Whitaker Chambers, a kind of rumpled Time Magazine editor, who insisted that Hiss had been his contact to whom he passed government secrets.
Hiss had passed them to Chambers to pass on to the Communist Party.
Nixon was vilified for this even though ultimately Alger Hiss was convicted not of being a spy but convicted of perjury, lying about the facts.
Hiss actually produced the microfiche film that he had gotten from Hiss and proved that the transmittal documents had been typed on a typewriter owned by Hiss and his wife.
The same people who tell us Hiss was not a spy By the way, we're disproved because when the Soviet Union fell and we got a hold of the KGB records, we learned that Hiss was indeed a spy and that young Congressman Richard Nixon was absolutely right.
Now they tell us, well, Joe McCarthy was on a red scare, he ruined lives, he ruined reputations, there was no communist infiltration in the Roosevelt and the Truman administrations.
This incredible book, Blacklisted by History by M. Stanton Evans, which Ann Coulter called the second greatest book after the Bible, documents meticulously the communist infiltration of our country and the fact that Senator Joe McCarthy was essentially correct.
He was right about all of it.
Now, in the case of Oppenheimer, we know that the Los Alamos project was infiltrated by communist spies, Klaus Fuchs specifically, Carl Greenglass.
These people passed our atomic secrets on to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, both of whom were convicted of spying for the Soviet Union and ultimately executed.
Fuchs himself would be imprisoned for his role as a Soviet spy.
So the real question is, what about Oppenheimer himself?
None of these characters are even featured in the film.
None of these people are even discussed.
They're not mentioned.
just to just to quick give the audience or some people may have seen haven't seen the movie.
None of these characters are even featured in the film.
None of these people are even discussed.
They're not mentioned.
There isn't a you know, nobody's watching the newsreel and hearing about the Rosenbergs and and fuchs and any of this.
It's completely omitted.
And we are told that these were just, you know, patriotic American scientists who happen to have a little bit left of center ideals.
And they've been reading a bit of reading a bit of angles and wanted to inject that to help their common man.
And it doesn't even explain that there were scientists that were directly working for Oppenheimer.
that formed a communist cell and were in fact pilfering American nuclear secrets and sending them over to the Soviets.
Most specifically, Klaus Fuchs, who had infiltrated the project, was reporting at that point to the KGB.
He originally started as a British spy, but there's no question that the entire Manhattan Project is infiltrated.
And on the basis of that information, the Russians developed an atomic weapon two years earlier than American intelligence thought they would do so.
All of this is airbrushed out of the picture in Oppenheimer.
Oppenheimer himself was likely a communist.
It is hinted at.
He's not just a well-meaning liberal who didn't want to drop the atomic bomb on Japan because he cared about all these Asian people.
No, I think he was likely a part of the circle of the cell of communists that infiltrated the Manhattan Project.
We will never know for certain, but the circumstantial evidence is pretty overwhelming.
So, Roger, the film does show a bit of this.
And this is where Chris Nolan kind of plays the bait and switch, where he shows, well, yes, Oppenheimer did have a communist mistress.
Yes, he was involved with communists at Berkeley.
Yes, it turns out that he has his mistress and his wife at the same time, both of which end up being communists.
He's sending money to the communist cause in the Spanish Civil War.
His brother's a communist.
His brother-in-law's a communist.
But there's no possible way that he himself could have ever been one, and that was just because he cared about the United States so very much.
Are we to believe this?
Are we to believe that he viewed this merely as an ideological thing and not to the point where there are scenes where he's going to Truman saying, we shouldn't build the hydrogen bomb, the danger of nuclear proliferation is too great, we could destroy the world.
Are we really to believe that this man had no knowledge of what was going on there?
No, I think not.
If you look like a communist, you smell like a communist, you walk like a communist, You're most likely a communist.
If all of your associates are communists, you're most likely a communist.
This is an attempt to deify Oppenheimer.
By the way, where's Edward Teller in the movie?
Why is there no reference to him?
Teller was a patriotic American and one of the most important scientists in terms of developing this hydrogen bomb technology, almost absent in the movie.
This is a propaganda piece.
Which I think glosses over the high probability that Operenheiber himself was involved in the communist cell, which ultimately leaked our most sensitive atomic secrets to the Soviet Union.
Well, and then so let's broaden it out here, because the idea that the Soviets would be able to penetrate directly into the Manhattan Project, which of course overtly was not shared with them, doesn't it speak to potentially a larger infiltration
Within the American government and in my own series the China files I walk out how that even when I was doing my undergrad at Temple University I wrote an entire thesis on how it seemed as though the Americans the American mission in China was writing these these missives back through the State Department and early the early offices of the OSS saying, why aren't we helping?
Why aren't we helping Chiang Kai-shek?
Why aren't we helping the nationalists?
The communists are on the move.
Chairman Mao is about to overrun every single position we have, and we're doing nothing other than offer basic face saving.
But we know that communist China is about to rise and take over the entire country, whereas a lot of people have pointed out to say, well, it may have actually been deliberate.
Well, this continues right into the 1960s.
When the Bay of Pigs invasion is launched, it is absolutely clear that leaks in U.S. and intelligence mean that Fidel Castro knows exactly where they are coming, the Bay of Pigs, and when they are coming, which is why the Cuban freedom fighters storming the beaches are cut to ribbons by Cuban sharpshooters.
Also, we now know that the air cover that was supposed to be supplied by 29 Panamanian flagged bombers captained by Cuban pilots and flown out of Panama were canceled by Charles Cable, the number two man in the CIA, the day before the invasion.
This is part of the invasion plan that JFK had approved.
Then when the Joint Chiefs went to Kennedy and said, you've got to order in the US Air Force, he correctly saw it would be a provocation to the Russians and a probable beginning of World War III, and he refused to do so.
That minor piece of history has now been proven, but it is missing from all of the mainstream narratives.
Regarding the Bay of Pigs Well, and it goes through again and again and again To to show us that the same Hollywood which I tweeted this this morning that you'll you'll you'll it's been four years since Jeffrey Epstein was killed and yet I can't see anyone in Hollywood Raising their hand and saying I'd like to make a feature film of this.
We should make one of these a One of these streaming series is about this, that Hollywood, I believe, very carefully picks and chooses its causes, and there are certain causes that they will never make a film against.
One minute, Roger Stone.
Jack, it's just coincidental that the security cameras just happened to be turned off at the exact time that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
Kind of like the security cameras at the White House don't capture who it was who left that little bag of cocaine.
We're expected to believe this nonsense.
Or I believe the latest that the 9-1-1 call log up at Martha's Vineyard doesn't record the name of the second paddleboarder who was there with the... It's every time, right?
Every single time there's always this piece of information that we seem to be lost when it comes to one of these investigations into a suspicious death around the president or one of their connections when they seem to be Part of this click.
Stay tuned.
We're coming back with more.
Final segment with Roger Stone after the break.
the truth about communists infiltration into the US government.
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All right, we're back here.
Jack Posobiec, human events, live Washington, D.C., Roger Stone breaking down for us the truth about Oppenheimer, the infiltration of the United States government in the 1930s, the 1940s, through the 1960s.
Roger, this was my thesis, and you tell me if I'm wrong, tell me if I'm out of line in here, but I wrote this when I was living in Shanghai, pulling up these declassified State Department cables, from from basically this this period just at the end of World War Two and that but before the communists had taken over China.
So 1945 to 1949 from inside China and It, it seems as though that the communists were essentially allowed to take China, who's responsible for the fall of China becomes sort of the the parlor game in DC after this.
And it seems as though it's the administration and by and large or but perhaps the deal had been struck earlier, because there's this huge push and you do see the same push echoed in the Oppenheimer film for the idea that the United Nations should then become a form of A form of one world government, basically, and they're chasing this idea of a one world government and this globalist ideal, which goes all the way back to Wilson and Geneva and the rest of it.
But it looks as though, you know, Communist China was the dowry for the Soviet Union to go along with the United Nations.
Well, it's kind of interesting in the movie Oppenheimer, while they don't say that Oppenheimer is a communist, they continually imply that he is at a minimum a fellow traveler.
And so when we talk about the real history of World War II, it seems that all of these decisions are completely omitted.
Well, it's kind of interesting in the movie Oppenheimer, while they don't say that Oppenheimer is a communist, they continually imply that he is at a minimum a fellow traveler.
And I think that that is a very common happenstance in the 30s, 40s, and 50s.
People will say, oh, name one communist who was exposed by Joe McCarthy.
Where?
Well, Harry Dexter White, a high-level Treasury official who gets the engraving printing plants for American currency over to the Soviets.
There's a perfect example.
Now, I think if you, again, this is I think the single best text blacklisted by history by M. Stanton Evans.
Who wrote extensively for Human Events, by the way, former boy editor of the Indianapolis News, founder of the American Conservative Union, in on the founding of Young Americans for Freedom.
He heavily documents the communist infiltration of both the Roosevelt and the Truman administrations.
It was not, as Harry Truman said, a red herring.
And of course, as I said earlier, the epic role played by Alger Hiss, a communist spy, for which Richard Nixon was vilified for decades, for which he was hated, but proven when the Soviet Union fell that Hiss was in fact a spy at Franklin Roosevelt's right hand.
So, Roger, was this at some point, you believe, was this the original intention, the League of Nations?
The United Nations?
Today, you can fast forward all the way up to today, and they call it what?
The rules-based order.
It seems to be this idea that the creation of a one-world government I don't think there's any question.
all heard the line, right?
This will prevent war from breaking out again.
Francis Fukuyama tells us it's the end of history.
One global government, one currency, et cetera, to rule them all.
That being, of course, the U.S. dollar.
Does this indeed play into some of these decisions?
I don't think there's any question.
What they really want to do is do away with American sovereignty, that we would go, as Wendell Wilkie said, to one world, meaning one world They want to erase American sovereignty.
The World Economic Forum is very blunt about their plans.
Even though those guys are like Batman cartoon villains, there's nothing funny about their agenda.
Although let me say this, Jack, and I want to make it very clear.
No matter what, I'm not eating any bugs.
Period.
No, no bugs in the Roger.
But Roger, we're told there's such a source of protein.
In fact, NPR calls that a racist conspiracy theory.
And then if only one wants to go and look at some of NPR's previous reporting, you can find article after article after article of NPR actually encouraging the eating of bugs.
No, I agree with you, Roger.
I think this is something that it's a piece of U.S.
history.
That I would love to see.
You know, I mentioned before about an Epstein movie, and look, we've all seen the success of Sound of Freedom.
Roger, do you think that it's possible that we have books about these shades of history that are never told, these forgotten shades or hidden shades of history?
We've got, you know, obviously shows like myself, your own.
Do you think that there's a market now that's possibly viable with Angel Studios or other crowdfunding that we could actually get some feature films made about some of these topics?
One would hope so.
Look, I think it is important to look at it historically.
Art has often affected popular culture and popular opinion.
So Oliver Stone's movie JFK leads to an upheaval in which the Kennedy assassination is reexamined by the Congress, reexamined by the American people.
It's a great movie.
I got a nice note from Oliver Stone after the movie.
He read my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, and he told me he wished he had read my book before he produced the movie because he minimized the role of Lyndon Johnson in John F. Kennedy's assassination.
So, I think this is a unique opportunity.
I must tell you, Sound of Freedom is one of the most incredible experiences I have had First of all, it really blew me away when I went to see it.
I also had the opportunity to interview Eduardo Verastegui, the producer and one of the actors in the movie, who's now thinking about running for president of Mexico.
The number of eyes that have been opened through this powerful film Now, do you and Oliver run into each other at family reunions?
Are you guys at the barbecue there together?
More feature length films telling the truth about history and the truth about some of these issues is the way through pop culture to get more people to understand what has really happened and what is really happening today.
Now, do you and Oliver run into each other at family reunions?
Are you guys at the barbecue there together?
I'm friends with his son, Sean Stone, who probably, his politics are probably closer to yours and mine than he is to his father.
Oliver never really understood the dangers of the Soviet Union or of Russian communism and of course he has deified Fidel Castro.
But his son, Sean Stone, who is not a right winger by any means, but a bit more of a libertarian, is a brilliant filmmaker in his own right and I'm in touch with him.
Well, you know, maybe we have to hook him up with Amanda Milius as the daughter of John Milius, and we can get that, you know, the next generation of filmmakers together.
Alright, so Roger, let's, I've got some questions.
The chat's popping off right here.
So when the Roger Stone feature film is made, I mean, there's documentary after documentary about you, but when the feature film is made, who do you want playing you?
That's obvious.
James Woods should play me, without any question whatsoever.
Alright, well what about in your younger years, though?
What about young Roger Stone?
That's a much tougher one.
I'm less familiar with younger actors, but James Woods plays Bob Haldeman in Oliver Stone's film, Nixon, and he absolutely, positively nails it.
So that's who I want to play me in my older years.
Of course, I'm still a young man, but in my much older years.
Well, they have the CGI, the de-aging, right?
Not that you'd need much of it, but we'll do that for James when it's the younger years.
Roger, just one minute left.
Where can people go to follow you?
What should people be looking at over the next couple weeks?
Sure.
They can go every day at 5 o'clock Eastern to stonezone.live to catch my daily show.
They can also go to WABC Radio on Sundays by going to wabcradio.com.
from three to five o'clock Sunday afternoons.
This coming weekend, we have Garrett Ziegler from the Marco Polo Research Group, we have Kash Patel, and we also have Nick Adams, the ultimate alpha male.
So you want to tune in for that, wabcradio.com this Sunday from three to five.
I like Nick Adams.
You know, he keeps inviting my brother out to those events they have down there in Tampa.
I think he's trying to steal him away from me.
Well, I've had the opportunity to knock back a few cold domestic beers with him at Hooters.
He's a terrific guy.
He's a great patriot.
You should tell your brother to hook up with him, for sure.
All right, we'll take heaven.
He just crossed his one year down there in the land of Florida with you guys, so we'll have to see.
Roger Stone, always a pleasure.
Everyone, if you are not following Roger Stone, then you are not doing politics right.
This man has forgotten more than most operatives.
will ever learn in their lifetime.
Make sure you go to follow him.
Coming back, we've got a very special interview with a new type of connection platform for conservatives in business.
And not only people who are in business, but people who are looking for jobs.
This is very interesting and it's part of the new parallel economy.
Stay tuned, Human Events continues.
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We're back here live with Human Events.
I wanted to bring in now a very special guest, Andrew Krapischutz.
He is the founder and CEO of a new firm, it's actually a service, called Red Balloon.
And we've been talking so much here on Human Events about the need for the parallel economy, different people, different players getting involved in the parallel economy.
Vivek Ramaswamy, this was really his big claim to fame before he ran for office, that he was getting involved in the payment processor.
By the way, Vivek, whatever happens, I want you to make sure that the payment processor still goes through because we absolutely need that.
People are going to be getting banned for their politics very soon in terms of payment processing, and so we need this on the board.
GiveZenGo is another example of this, and the latest to come along is Red Balloon.
Andrew, thank you so much for joining us today.
Tell us about Red Balloon and what led you to found it.
Yeah, thanks for having me, Jack.
So I was the CEO of actually a reasonably large tech company about two years ago, and we kind of hit COVID and BLM and George Floyd and all the craziness.
And I started having my board tell me I had to make statements that I totally disagreed with or else it was going to cost me my job.
And so I stuck with my guns and found myself delightfully unemployed.
And I thought, wow, if this happened to me, it's probably going to happen to a lot of other Americans who are going to have to decide between their job and their values.
And I don't think that's right.
And so RedBalloon.work, and it's .work not .com because .com sounded too much like communist to me, and we want to get back to work, not communism.
So, RedBalloon.work.
Someone was listening to the show prior to you coming on.
That's right, and so we're a hybrid job board.
We have now, in 18 months, we have over 3,000 businesses who have signed a pledge that they believe in freedom, they believe in the Constitution, they will protect the freedom of people coming to work for them.
And we've had over a million job seekers who are eager for freedom because when you're free at work, it is amazing the impact it has on every other aspect of your life.
And so early on, Donald Trump Jr. got involved with Red Balloon.
Public Square is a big partner of ours because we realized that we're in a moment in American history that if you are a conservative and you get canceled from Facebook, you kind of shrug it off.
But if you get cancelled from your job and your ability to feed your kids, pay your mortgage, that is a lever that will cause you to at least be tempted to compromise some of your values.
And we want to be able to give people a landing place if they do lose their job because they stuck with their guns.
And so that's what RedBalloon.Work is.
And it's been a really fun adventure.
It's the only business I've ever run where I get unsolicited thank you notes from perfect strangers who say, You know, you changed the trajectory of my family.
You saved my marriage because I now have a job where I can be free and I didn't realize what an impact it would have.
So anyway, that's Red Balloon.
It's been really fun company to build.
Well, I think that's amazing, you know, and Public Square, it's obviously it's a place for to hang your business or if you're going to look for businesses.
But look, I'm not going to give away anyone's personal information, but there are people that I know in my personal life.
There are people who are involved with this show that have told me that very same story or or even not so much they lost their job, but that or, you know, they were put in a position they didn't want to be in or just that they were sick of being in that That part of the woke corporate world where every single day you're forced to bite your tongue, you're forced to endure another woke training telling you to put your pronouns at the bottom of your emails, that kind of stuff, that finally, I mean I think what you're doing is
You know, getting a, you're filling a niche that's needed.
And I don't know, by the way, I gotta ask, is Red Balloon, is that a reference to the song?
Is that a reference to the, you know, basically one of the most famous anti-communist songs that's ever been written?
That's right.
Actually, it has lots of meaning.
So there was also a family that escaped from East Germany on a hot air balloon.
And if you've ever been on a hot air balloon, it's a little bit terrifying and a lot of fun, kind of like looking for a job.
And people are going to red states and red businesses and red regions of blue states.
So there's lots of meeting built in.
Wow.
It's all there.
It's like your work is good for you.
So.
So you're taking right.
So you're taking that because Nina, I think, was the band, right?
Not Luftballons.
Right.
And so it's it's that the Red Balloons come across the the Berlin Wall.
Right.
And then so in your version, it's the balloon that takes you out of your your blue state, your blue job and and You know potentially brings you to a red state or that being said though I think a lot of these jobs I mean a lot of people are you seeing this as well in the market because you are in the job market as well outside of politics are people really moving back to the workplace or is this or is work from home really having the staying power that I think a lot of workers are going for?
No, that's a great question.
A lot of businesses are tired of work from home and we are seeing people move back.
What we're seeing actually, which is really interesting, is a lot of the red balloon companies are establishing what we call micro offices.
So they're saying, look, we have a critical mass of employees in Tulsa, Oklahoma or Spokane, Washington, some of these second level metros.
And so let's try and get the momentum of an office with a very small group of people, because we're not going to get everybody to move back to Dallas or Fort Lauderdale or some of these bigger metros.
And so that's kind of this middle ground that a lot of the employers are starting to establish.
And I'll tell you, the companies that are hiring, a lot of them are finding that there's a ton of job seekers who are eager to relocate from places like California, New York and Illinois, because the job seekers on Red Balloon are realizing that living there with your family anymore is simply not safe.
beyond the fact that your freedoms are being curb stomped constantly, not only at the job, but at the city level.
So we're seeing a lot of workers who are saying, look, I'm a conservative.
I don't like to move.
We like to put down roots.
We like to stay places.
But the time has come.
It's time to leave Chicago.
It's time to leave New York and go somewhere where I can be free.
And so Red Balloon has been helping a lot of people facilitate that move.
We just had the author Jack Cashel on yesterday about his fantastic new book.
And that's exactly what it's about.
It's called Untenable, and it's basically about the death of our cities, and he tells his personal family story.
I have some personal stories.
I think everybody knows someone or has experienced it themselves, unfortunately.
Tell everybody where can they go, how do they sign up for this service, which I think is fantastic, and I commend you for setting this up.
Yeah, thank you.
RedBalloon.Work, you can go there.
You can sign up as a job seeker.
Everything's totally free.
If you're looking for a job, you can fill out a profile.
It's a self-sovereign profile.
So unlike LinkedIn or something else, we're not going to sell your data.
If you want to have your profile visible to employers, you can share it.
But it's a self-sovereign profile because we believe in privacy, in fact, and freedom.
So for a job seeker, you can go.
There's a ton of great resources.
We have an Employee Bill of Rights that is a free resource that you can download and understand what your rights are.
So if you're stuck at a woke company, we can tell you what you're allowed to do legally to push back against some of the craziness.
If you're an employer, we have lots and lots of job seekers who are eager to come work for your company.
And you can either post jobs, you can look at our profile database of people who are ready to jump, or we can actually come alongside and help you with that hiring process.
We do that for Moms for America and lots of other folks.
