July 14, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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EPISODE 517: THE DEATH OF MIKE PENCE'S POLITICAL CAREER
On today’s episode of Human Events, Jack Posobiec dives deep into the Blaze Media Summit featuring the Republican candidates for president. Joined by co-host Libby Emmons, they break down the inexplicable comments from former Vice-President Mike Pence openly declaring that the United States is of “no concern” to him compared to the conflict in Ukraine. Poso and Libby are joined by Peachy Keenan and Tiffany Justice for the conversation on the presidential race as well as an elevated conversati...
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Something that just happened.
Incredible.
Mike Pence, his career I think it might be over.
We have to play this clip.
Let's play it.
We'll leave the mics open, but let's just play it in its entirety for the audience to hear this right now.
You can hear our live reaction moments ago.
You are distressed that the Ukrainians don't have enough American tanks.
Every city in the United States has become much worse over the past three years.
Drive around.
There's not one city that's gotten better in the United States.
And it's visible.
Our economy has degraded.
The suicide rate has jumped.
Public filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased.
And yet, your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find on a map, who've received tens of billions of U.S.
tax dollars, don't have enough tanks.
I think it's a fair question to ask, like, where's the concern for the United States in that?
Oh, it's not my concern.
Tucker, I've heard that routine from you before, but that's not my concern.
I'm running for president of the United States because I think this country's in a lot of trouble.
Just pause right there, pause right there, pause right there.
Libby, I listen to this Ten times.
Yes, me too.
I watched it a bunch.
Because I was going to write the transcript and I was on Twitter, on the computer, I was going to write the transcript out and I said, Did he say not my concern?
Yeah, he said failing American cities are not his concern.
And I'm sitting there thinking, alright, is this a live event?
Did he misspeak?
And then he repeats it!
He repeats it!
Because he means it.
He said that's not my concern.
And then I said, okay, clearly he misspoke.
He's going to correct himself.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
Tucker, I've heard this routine before and that's not my... He keeps sniffling.
What are you implying there?
He's trying to actually suck the air out of the room so Tucker can't speak because he's that terrified of being tucked live on stage and Tucker just ends him.
He ends him with his own words.
That's not my concern.
Mike Pence's career is over.
Mike Pence will never hold public office again in the United States, maybe like local dog catcher or something.
How do you tell people That you're not concerned for their well-being.
Yeah, I don't know.
This is a man who is Vice President of the United States.
This is a man who wants to lead the country, and he's way more interested in what's happening in Eastern Europe than he is in what's happening in America's own cities.
Most people in the U.S.
live in cities.
You know, we have a huge city population.
We see the failure of these cities.
We've seen it firsthand.
Americans care about where they live.
They don't care even half as much about what's going on in some far-off place, which, as Tucker correctly pointed out, due to our incredibly poor educational system, hardly anyone could even find it on a map.
Look, I'll... The Fly was right!
Alright?
The Fly was right!
You remember The Fly?
I remember The Fly.
With Kamala's debate and The Fly in it later.
The Fly knew something.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I apologize to the fly.
I apologize to the fly right now.
The fly was right.
You tried to warn us.
We didn't listen!
Yeah.
Why didn't we listen to the fly?
Why didn't we?
Trying to warn us.
Yeah, the fly was like Gregor Simpson's cousin.
I don't speak fly.
I don't speak fly.
Yeah, we just don't know.
We're coming up on a break, but this is just, it's so unbelievable.
He torched himself like a Buddhist monk.
This was crazy.
This is crazy.
I wonder if he even realizes it.
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But before we have to get into that, I just want to say, I'm actually I'm gonna say this and I think backwards sometimes I think sometimes I think sideways because this is what I'm gonna say I'm glad Mike Pence said this.
I'm happy that Mike Pence said this and let me tell you why.
Let's hear it.
Because now we have clarity.
Now we have clarity.
Now we understand.
We understand that our politicians know the state of our cities.
They know the state of our infrastructure.
They know the state of everything falling apart.
America is becoming a second world country.
It's happening all around us.
It's happening literally all around us.
and it's not their concern.
And now we have it straight from the horse's mouth.
See, that's what happened right there.
That Pence, and by the way, he'll try to explain this away.
You watch, I predict within the next, within minutes, by the way, if it's probably, if it hasn't happened already, his staff will be out there.
We know he was saying I was concerned about both, you know, said no, no, no, no. - Yeah, he didn't say that at all. - No, you said it.
You said that's not your concern.
The American people are not your concern.
Your concern is expanding America's footprint, getting involved with wars overseas, getting involved with adventures, destabilizing Ukraine to the point where this war was started in the first place, Not calling for peace.
I could go on, I could go on, I could go on.
But someone who I want to go off even more on, Mike Pence and also Joe Biden, because as we heard last night, we haven't gotten into it, Libby.
Right, we haven't even gotten into it.
But I'll let our guests get into this.
3,000 reservists are being deployed to active duty to Eastern Europe directly to the Eastern European Theater.
Right on the border with Ukraine.
Ladies and gentlemen, the great Peachy Keenan, the domestic extremist author herself, joins us today.
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Peachy, just let me get it.
What is your sense of Pence's comments, the Ukraine, this deployment that's going on?
Are we finally understanding what's actually going on inside our government?
That's my question here.
Yeah, I mean when he says none of this is his concern, look, I have a concern and my only concern really going into 2024 are the five concerns I call my children.
I have three boys and my oldest is actually turning 18 this year.
And so for the last couple years, ever since Joe Biden, you know, got elected, you know, got elected, um, I've been concerned about this and I've been, you know, as we act, they keep escalating the war in Ukraine.
I'm getting more and more nervous.
Like, is this something I even have to think about?
Could they be, you know, he gets his selective service form in the mail.
Do I, what do I do with that?
Do I, I want to burn it.
You know, I don't want him ever or any of his friends or any young American to spend one second fighting for Ukraine, to spend one second fighting for these objectives that I don't even understand.
Mike Pence cannot explain them.
You know, when I start hearing a politician talk about we need to project American global power around the world, I want to hide my children.
I want to move out of the country.
It really is terrifying.
And I don't even know what they're sleepwalking us into.
But yeah, like you said, it's incredibly great to hear the words come out of their mouth.
It provides a lot of clarity.
Yeah, and we saw in March 2022 that President Biden said at the time that there would not be U.S.
troops on the ground fighting in Ukraine.
And each step of the way, he continues to change his mind and say something different.
I was also terrified as a mom.
And, you know, I talked to my son about it.
He's 13.
We have five years.
And he was like, Mom, is this going to be a thing?
And I was like, I really I have no idea.
I don't know what could happen.
Our recruitment numbers are down.
There's a lot of issues to look at.
And like you said, there has not been any clear indication as to why we would be going to fight in Ukraine, what our purpose would be.
They tell us it's defending democracy, but they literally say that about everything. - I'd actually like to commend, I guess I'll commend Mike Pence in a sense here.
It's a very bold strategy.
It's a unique and creative strategy to just straight up tell the American people that you hate them.
And you don't care about where they live.
And you don't care about your concerns.
I don't care that your cities are shooting galleries.
We don't care about black-on-black crime.
We don't care about suicide statistics going up.
We don't care about any of that stuff.
What we really care about is war and more of it.
Especially war with the Russians.
And then Tim Scott, we have the clip later, but I don't even know if we'll play it, but you know, they asked Tim Scott, they said, you know, Tucker says, why do we need to fight the Russian military?
Why do we need to do that?
And he said, couldn't we just go for peace?
And Tim says, but how, Tucker?
But how?
And then Tucker sits there and explains how we're funding the entire war effort, the entire The Ukrainian government, not just the military, but the government, paying their pensions and sitting there going, like, have you never even considered these things?
But you look at, I wouldn't say they necessarily ended Tim Scott's career, but potentially.
I mean, he's certainly wounded.
Mike Pence has done, he, I mean, Tucker is a walking cluster munition up there, and he's just taking out candidate after candidate after candidate.
Dropping rhetorical bomblets.
Rhetorical bomblets, yes.
And then we saw Marjorie Taylor Greene yesterday talking about how she believes that it was the Burisma CEO who gave the bribe to Joe Biden.
I mean, it clearly was.
And so now we're lining their pockets after they lined the Biden's pockets.
And everybody's tweeting this stuff and it's like, come on, are we really acting like these are revelations?
We know what was going on here.
We have straight up evidence of bribery.
That's where this is coming from.
I'm at this point, Peachy, let me tell this to you.
Do we think that Mike Pence is getting a cut?
Maybe not.
Maybe Joe's the big guy and Pence is the little guy.
I mean, what other explanation can there be for all of these GOP candidates who are supposed to be on our side, actively working against the interests of families and their teenage sons?
Like, I don't understand.
And consigning us all to live among, like you said, the filth and the tense and the crime in our cities.
What else could the explanation be?
I mean, do they have, like, dirt on these guys?
Like, is there, like, a guy with a briefcase and 8x10 glossies of them doing things we don't want to know about?
I don't get it.
This is so simple.
One candidate can just come forward and say definitively, there will never be a draft on my watch.
We will never commit American troops on the ground to these places.
And it would be so simple.
It would be, the election would be over.
No, I think that's so true.
And let's get into that, because this is something where I got, we were going to play it today, but we ended up getting this forum wanting to get into that.
But five months ago, I posted this pre-creation of Joe Biden talking, basically announcing a draft.
Oh, that's right.
I got in so much trouble and everybody got mad at me.
Community noted, et cetera, et cetera.
And they said, oh, it's crazy.
Joe Biden would never do that.
You can't make stuff like that.
And then all of a sudden this order comes out without an announcement from the White House.
Nope.
It was just on their website.
The order just pops up.
Your sons are being deployed.
So, I mean, for someone who's out there, let's say, throw it to you, for someone who's got, you know, teenage kids, what are the moms of America thinking right now when you're hearing the D word?
A draft, potentially.
I could pull up the list, but it's, you know, the 18 year olds go first, essentially.
They go first.
That's right.
You know, I was warning friends about this right when Biden got in.
I wrote an essay for the American Mind trying to warn people, like, do not let your sons go in.
And there were kids at our school who were joining ROTC, who were joining the academies.
And I was like, oh, you know, I'm a little worried about them.
But these parents, a lot of them are still under the living under the sort of like 1980s Reagan kind of fantasy of what our military is.
Um, but then we had the, you know, the stand down when they wanted to go through all the ranks and find out who all the domestic extremists were.
And my brother-in-law was a reservist and he was telling me what they were forcing him to go through.
So it was very clear that the military themselves were considered the enemy to our government.
And so it was always obvious you would never send your child to work for people, to defend a country that hates you, a government that hates you, a DOD that is looking to kind of arrest you if you have the wrong conservative beliefs and you're a service member.
So yeah, my kids are, you just, we're just never going to do it.
And the fact that they would just so blithely pull up, where's 3,000, you know, reservists.
Like, why are we already going to reservists?
Like, we don't have enough active duty guys.
And I mean, yeah, our recruiting is in the toilet.
And for obvious reasons, these career military families, these traditionally where, you know, I think 60% or something or more, Of the military, infantry has been drawn from these families where the grandpa served and the father served.
It's like a family business.
They're now telling their kids, do not fight for these people.
I would not fight.
I would not commit one American to fight or get hurt or die for anyone in our government right now.
And that's a sad place to be.
I'm a patriotic woman.
I was raised to love this country.
And it's just, it's hard because we don't even know what we stand for anymore.
We stand for sending money to Zelensky.
And just propping up this puppet state.
If it was a case of people were invading our shores and coming down Sunset Boulevard here in Los Angeles and we had to fight for our lives, that's a different case.
But they just seem to be inventing these fake wars to keep the money flowing into their accounts.
I mean, I was so hopeful after we pulled out of Afghanistan.
I was like, okay, we're done.
Yeah, we're coming on a quick break, but I do want to get you on after this.
I mean, it's crazy, by the way, and I have to ask you that question.
Why was it that it feels like this got turned on right after the Afghanistan withdrawal?
Isn't it amazing?
We stop Afghanistan, we wind everything down, and just after the 20 years of that ends, boom!
Another one starts.
It's kind of funny how that works.
There are no conspiracies, but there are coincidences.
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I'd love if we, so, Let me go through this a little bit more with you, P.G.
Boone.
We kind of got cut off because you brought up the great insight, though, that it was Afghanistan for 20 years, where all the military age males of the United States would go there, go there, go there.
And then you thought that it had ended.
You thought that it wound down, that we weren't going to have it anymore.
And then suddenly we're back into it.
Why is that?
Why did that happen just a few months later?
Yeah, it's pretty amazing how that happened.
It seemed like I was so thrilled at the time, like, oh, finally, the money spigots are off.
We can now divert our resources to where they need to go.
They need to rebuild these cities.
They need to go back into American people, American infrastructure, build factories where we can all get jobs.
And instead, it really did feel like overnight they conjured up this new war.
And I think I totally agree with Donald Trump.
I think if he'd been president, not a single person on either side would have died.
And now what we're doing is is willfully, voluntarily committing all of us to some another 20 year engagement.
Where does this end?
If it goes nuclear, it'll be about 20 minutes.
But I just, there's so many easy ways out of this.
Like it makes no sense.
So it has to be about money.
And it's just pure corruption.
This is why they had to impeach Donald Trump.
He was going to stop it.
He was like the cog in the wheel stopping this giant war machine.
And, you know, I didn't used to be an anti-war, you know, fanatic.
In 2003, I was like, you know, a neocon pro-Iraq war.
And it's funny how all those liberals now love war.
All the anti-war left.
He loves war.
I was one of those liberals marching against that war in 2003, and I'm still anti-war.
So there's one of us.
There's at least one of us.
I'm so consistent!
At least on that.
At least on anti-war, I'm pretty consistent.
But I do think that you make such an interesting point about how as soon as, you know, we're talking about it, as soon as we get out of Afghanistan, we have another forever war launched, and they keep telling us that it's a forever war.
They keep saying that we're going to be in there as long as it takes.
But they don't tell us what the end result that we're looking for is.
You had Zelensky recently talking about how he doesn't think the war can be over until Crimea is restored to Ukraine.
That's something that goes back to 2014, and we didn't start going nuts about it then, sending all kinds of bombs and planes and breaking promises.
So why is it so urgent now that we need to do this, and it wasn't urgent in 2014?
And what does the end of this war look like?
Does it look like the United States attacking Russia?
Is it that kind of thing?
What is it that could possibly be the end result of this?
We had no idea what the end of Afghanistan was supposed to look like.
We just kept sending guys over there, kept sending bombs and weapons over there, and we have no idea what the end of this is supposed to look like.
There's absolutely no indication either that our leaders have any idea what it's supposed to look like.
And you were talking earlier about being a patriotic woman, patriotic mom, and America is worth defending.
It's worth defending for sure, but we don't see any, we have no understanding as to how fighting in Ukraine, going to war with Russia over Ukraine is actually defending the United States.
While I have you guys on, there is another clip that I need to play here, since we got the moms on, and this is the clip of Asa Hutchinson talking about, now he claims this is his parents' rights, but listen to this clip, and I'd love to hear your guys' response.
And I will stop with this.
But you have repeatedly described delaying a child's natural progression from childhood to adulthood through adolescence.
You described that as, quote, treatment.
And so that raises the... I mean, clearly you've answered the question.
You believe it's treatment.
You believe, I suppose, that people can change their sex.
Because if you don't believe that, you wouldn't call a treatment, would you?
Well, the...
The God created two genders, and that's what I have stated, and whenever you look at the decisions on that, no, I don't support that.
I wouldn't make that decision in my family about changing genders, and I don't believe that taxpayers' funds should be used for He never actually answers the question, and I've got to give the incredible response.
that should happen because traditionally, whether it's the high amendment that you prohibit- - He never actually answers the question.
And I've got to give the response, the incredible response.
The tweet on this, the best tweet, Virad Mehta says, "Watch Tucker Carlson gender transition Asa Hutchinson into a person who no longer has testicles." I mean, this is, this is, this is, Peachy, explain to me.
He says, he says, you're for, you said, well, no, no, Tucker, that's just treatment.
And Tucker says, well, if you believe that it's a form of treatment, then clearly you believe in gender transition.
Right.
And you think that it's possible to change sex, which it actually is not possible.
Peachy, why are they doing this?
Why are, why, why will he not just answer the question?
Yeah, he's an ASSA clown.
I mean, what can I say?
I think that was a brutal awakening.
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I'm still waiting for Asa Hutchinson, but I mean, the fact that he's even running after doing, you know, the legislation that he did in Arkansas, coming out in defense of parent rights.
I mean, you know, Gavin Newsom here in California is also trying to defend parent rights.
In other words, the right of a parent to mutilate their own and chemically castrate their own child, you know, Some parents are not like other parents, and I think he just fundamentally doesn't get it.
I think, obviously, Walmart is one of his major donors, and that's just where all of this is coming from.
And he's just not bright enough, really, to see his way out of the Tucker trap.
Why is there so much corporate pressure behind this transgender movement?
That's for either of you, I suppose.
Yeah, I mean, we've seen a lot of corporate support for the entire thing.
We see it from Target and Disney and all of these other companies.
We see it every year.
And a lot of these companies, too, they're backing the pharmaceutical companies, and we've seen that.
That's something that a lot of the politicians are doing.
They bring in a lot of money from pharmaceutical companies.
That are interested in turning our kids into lifelong medical patients who can never think for themselves or break out of these drug cycles of, you know, the blockers and the hormones and everything else.
So I think that that's a, I think the pharmaceutical companies have a big part to play in that, political donations.
What do you think, PG?
I think that really it's being driven by these sort of younger, you know, kind of middle managers, the marketing, the HR girls who are really committed to kind of, you know, telling their bosses what to do, how to think, how to look cool.
And to them, being cool is being, you know, Having all these virtue signals and getting the high ESG score so it pays off for the companies because they look good for, you know, for Blackstone or whoever it is who's going to make some loan.
They no longer care about what the actual customer wants, what the actual family going to Disneyland wants to look at.
They want to look good for their higher-ups, for this like, you know, for Kamala Harris or whatever the meeting is with Bob Iger so he can kind of like, you know, give them the medal as like, you are the wokest member of our Disney family or whatever it is.
And so they've just, like, forgotten about profits.
Like, capitalism is, like, gone.
And you just have to, like, be able to go to the cocktail party and not look like you're, you know, transphobe.
That's it.
It's very simple, I think.
You know, it's interesting you say that they've forgotten about profits, because for a while it didn't matter.
They were doing all of this stuff, they were funding GLSEN and all these other organizations, and it didn't matter because conservatives were not speaking up, they were not boycotting Maybelline and Bud Light and whoever else is doing all of this stuff, Nike, Adidas, like take your pick of companies that are going forward with this.
And I think that it has made a huge difference that conservative moms and dads have been speaking up and they've been saying, we're not going to have this in our schools, we're not going to have this in our homes, and we're not going to push this anymore.
And I think a lot of parents also know that no parent has the parental right to sterilize their children.
That's just not something anyone has the right to do.
You don't have the right to molest them, you don't have the right to beat them, and you don't have the right to sterilize them.
There are certain, obviously, places where we draw the line across the country.
You don't have the right to mistreat your children.
Correct.
I'm sorry.
Peachy, we're just about out of time.
I know you've got to bounce.
Tell people where they can get your book and where they can go to follow you and all your insane ramblings.
Insane in a good way.
You guys should follow me on Twitter at Keenan Peachy.
And my new book, Domestic Extremist, A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War, is available at Amazon and anywhere books are sold.
I was not joking, by the way.
My mom is actually reading your book because we got the box in and I left it out and then she came over and she goes, she's like, oh, I think this is a nice cover and I don't think she saw the title at first.
And she was like, and then she was like, oh yeah.
And then she saw the title and she's like, I love this.
I want to read it.
She's been reading at the beach.
I also want to throw out that PG wrote an op-ed for humanevents.com this week and everyone should go over to humanevents.com and check it out.
It was really terrific work.
I'm like the worst possible senior editor that Human Events has ever had.
I'm like, oh right, yes, you write an op-ed for the website that we all run.
No, Peachy, thank you so much for your time, thank you for your energy, for your work, for your effort.
Everybody go and read her ramblings, who are the best kind of insane on the entire internet right now.
Absolutely the best.
There's like her and then Alex Jones.
Folks, you've got to get mad.
You've got to get mad when they're telling you they don't care.
This is the level of energy that you need.
Stay tuned.
We've got a special segment coming up next.
All right, guys, we've got a very special segment coming up.
Libby, have you ever done a meme review before?
I have not.
Neither have I. But we're going to do it, because why not, folks?
We've decided that it's time, it's very important, it's a solemn day, the end of Mike Pence's career.
He has officially been tucked July 14th.
It's Bastille Day, right?
Oh my goodness!
Isn't it Bastille Day, right?
It's Bastille Day, right?
Go see Napoleon.
But we want to do the Mike Pence meme review, so let's just go.
Is there a way you can see?
Can you see the camera over here?
Yeah, I can see it.
Alright, let's throw up the first Pence meme.
What do we got?
What does it say?
Ignore American cities.
Embrace electronic voting.
Great job, Mike!
Great job!
You're doing great.
Alright, next.
What is this?
Oh wait, put it full screen.
And the girls are all around him, but what's he looking at?
Tucker and Pence!
Oh my goodness!
Oh no!
I love that.
Alright, so for the podcast audience, right, so it's a college kid who's at like a college party.
There's girls, you know, all around him, hotties all around him, and he's looking down at his laptop and it's Tucker versus Pence.
Right, in bed.
He's in bed with Tucker and Pence.
Oh, is that a bed?
Yeah, it's a bed.
Amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
Alright, what's next?
What do we have next?
Oh no!
Oh my goodness!
You disappointed me, Fredo.
It's Godfather 2, and it's Trump.
But instead of Fredo, it's Trump and Pence.
And it's gonna be Tucker out in that rowboat on the lake.
Mike!
Mike, I know it was you.
Yeah, he's gonna... Well, no, no, no.
Tucker... Will Tucker be in the boat?
No, Tucker's in the boat.
Tucker's in the boat.
And then Trump's on shore just watching out on Lake Tahoe.
He just watches it, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Alright, what do we have next?
This was kind of perfect.
This is just so ridiculous.
I like the cartoon element.
I love Tucker's face at the end.
I think this was still boneless.
So this is the, um, I think it's an anime, right?
Is this from, like, I don't know.
I think it's from an anime.
It looks like Heidi to me.
And it's Tucker in a dress, because why not, pushing Pence, who's also in a dress, but in a wheelchair, off to the edge of a cliff and then just throwing him off smiling.
And that crazy Tucker smile that we all love.
That's basically an exact representation of what happened on stage in Iowa today.
All right, what's next?
Yes!
Okay, you'll have to tell me what this one's about, I don't know how to say it.
Okay, so that's the Undertaker and his, uh, his unsuspecting prey.
So he thinks that, you know, so basically the other guy who thinks that everything's great, everything's fine, that's Mike Pence's political career, but then behind him is the foreboding Undertaker, the dead man himself.
So it's like when the giant spider attacks Frodo.
Yeah, it's A.J.
Stiles.
He's there to drag him down to the depths of the underworld.
Okay.
Exactly.
So good.
What's next?
Well, there we go.
Tanks for Ukraine.
This is a classic.
I like the classic format.
This has just become an iconic format to the point where I don't think it's played out because it's so useful.
Well, it's just too perfect.
Where so this is the this is the guy with the girl who sees the other girl walking by who's she's out of focus he can't actually tell she's more attractive but I guess to him she is.
Well and you know we can't see her from the back.
Right so that's Mike Pence.
I think they did a recreation where you actually can see them all.
Oh really?
That's actually kind of funny.
So it's Mike Pence, and then the girl he's with in the blue is American cities, and the girl walking by, tanks for Ukraine.
So tanks for Ukraine is like the name.
Way hotter than American cities.
Way hotter.
Tanks for Ukraine, so hot right now.
Oh my goodness.
So hot right now.
I gotta say, as a New Yorker, as someone who loves a metropolis and a city, I find what Pence said so horrifyingly offensive.
Oh it's insane.
And it's such trash.
No, our cities really matter.
It's so bad.
They are glistening and beautiful and full of culture and people and they're great.
You can't even... You can't let them just get destroyed.
It reminds me a little bit, and hold off on the meat review for a second, but this reminds me of a little bit of when, one of the best moments that a lot of people missed from, I think it was 15 or 16, where they go, where essentially they go, Where he brought up New York values.
Remember this?
And you, as a New Yorker, I'm sure remember this.
And then he's like, oh, they got those New York values.
And of course, Cruz, who, if you're someone who just sits and like, you know, you're just like, you know, sucking the spigot of, you know, Fox News all day long, and you're not talking to anybody outside the bubble, you don't understand how like a four-quadrant election works, or a strategy works to win voters.
you assume that everyone's gonna equate New York values with liberalism.
But then what does Trump do in the very next sentence?
Do you remember his response? - I don't. - His response goes, he goes, excuse me, New York values, You're gonna say that to a guy that experienced 9-11?
Oh my goodness, that's right.
That stood there watching the towers?
And the thing with Trump and 9-11 is that we know there were the photos of him where he's down there and the videos where he's down there like the week of and it's always like, oh fact check, it wasn't on the day.
It doesn't need to be the day, you couldn't get down there on the day and it was like that for weeks and weeks and weeks.
The point is He wasn't just in New York when it happened.
He didn't just hear about 9-11.
He could smell it.
He could see it with his own eyes.
He's told the story of seeing the jumpers.
Yeah, I remember seeing the coverage in the New York Times from that of the people jumping.
And he just disemboweled Ted Cruz's entire campaign in one second.
And he did it in a second!
Yeah.
And so when people talk about, oh, I see, like, a lot of his supporters are saying, like, oh, we really want Trump to show up at the debates.
Are you sure?
Right.
Like, are you sure?
Because he can do exactly what Tucker just did here.
And I don't know if you want him doing that.
Plus, I will say that, not to get into it entirely, but I do think Trump should at least do one debate, not because he needs to, but because I refuse to be deprived of that content.
No, you were mentioning that yesterday, and it is great content.
I mean, even still, the debate with Hillary Clinton and all that is terrific to watch.
I get the strategy.
I get the strategy.
He'll go up against Sanders again.
Or Biden again.
I would love to see him do some debates and just mop the floor with everyone.
But there's something so visceral of just watching someone, a truth teller, go up against these establishment cronies.
All right, let's go to the next thing.
Let's go to a couple more minutes left.
Oh, this is brutal.
Oh, this is so bad.
Ooh, it's the Grim Reaper.
So it's the Grim Reaper, and it's the Grim Reaper knocking on the bloody doors, and it goes, Tim Scott, Asa Hutchinson.
They really should have put Tucker's face on the Grim Reaper just for that.
And then obviously the implication is that the rest of the doors, all the way down, are going to be each other candidate.
That's grim.
Alright, what do we have next?
Ah!
Meanwhile, all these people thought they dodged a bullet when Tucker left Fox.
That's just funny.
It's Tucker Carlson as Conor McGregor.
Is that the last one guys?
Do we have more?
That's it.
I think it's the last one.
I love that we're ending on Tucker just laughing because he does it with a smile.
He does it all with a smile as he sits there.
Maybe not so much of a smile for Pence at the end.
Well, Pence did not deserve a smile at the end.
Let me get back to you on this question, and we haven't even talked about Tim Scott because the Pence stuff is just so insane.
You were talking about it.
Have you ever seen a candidate say something like that before?
No, no.
I haven't seen a candidate just outright say that he doesn't care about our cities.
That's, I mean, you just said live that you don't care about the population of America.
You don't care about our citizens.
You don't care about our cities.
What else do you not care about?
If you don't care about our cities, do you care about the rest of the country?
How can that not be your concern?
That's not my concern!
That's the primary concern.
The primary concern of the President should be the condition of the United States.
And yes, defending our country and representing our country on the world stage, but you can't just let it crumble at your back while you walk off there in your tanks and fighter jets and spending all of our hard-earned, you know, wealth on other places.
You can just see him standing there as the entire nation burns behind him.
He is, you know, we should do another meme with fiery but mostly peaceful, but it's America's cities behind Pence and he's just standing there going, meh, it's okay.
It's like Robert Greene, it's like which of the 48 laws of power is this?
Tell the people that you hate them.
I don't know if I remember that.
The thing is, he wasn't going to get any votes anyway, so it's not even really that significant.
I don't remember that Dale Carnegie course of tell the people that their concerns are worthless and that you don't value their lives and their families.
He doesn't care about our values, our homes.
And by the way, I'll say it again.
I've been to Ukraine.
We've done this show from Ukraine.
We did so much in Ukraine.
We talked to the people.
We talked to the families.
You want to talk about Ukraine?
Let's talk about the child trafficking that's going on coming out of Ukraine right now.
Yeah, that's a big deal.
Where they just arrested one guy selling a little baby boy, 11 months old, when they're calling, oh, Sound of Freedom's Q&A.
Queue adjacent, right?
Queue adjacent.
And they got an 11-month-old boy that is being sold at a Ukrainian train station for organs.
And so let's talk about Ukraine.
Let's talk about what's in the best interest of the Ukrainian people.
I would love to, if that's what you want to get to.
But you're talking about javelin missiles in Ukraine and tanks?
I don't know.
Anyway, look, we've got actually a great interview coming up next.
We only have it for a little bit.
We've got Tiffany Justice, Moms for Liberty, another extremist.
We love having all the extremists on today.
Domestic extremists.
All the domestic extremists on today, so stay tuned.
We're going to be right back with Tiffany Justice, because I really want to hear her on this topic.
Stay tuned.
Human Events continues.
When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods, and them boys had a saying.
You can't be listening to all that slappy whack, trim out his eyelids, a bam, ship, nippy, bam, bam, like Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
All right, Jack Posobiec here with Libby Emmons, very excited to bring on now Tiffany Justice, Moms for Liberty.
Tiffany, I don't know if you had a chance to be listening to any of this.
It's the Iowa Family Leadership, I don't think, we didn't even say it yet, it's the Iowa Family Leadership Forum that's going on.
There was a comment though from Asa Hutchinson, who's running And Tucker Carlson asked him this brilliant question to say, he said, Governor, if you believe that there are only two genders, then why did you say that you believe that hormone therapy is a valid form of treatment?
Because isn't that Tacitly agreeing with the fact that there are multiple genders and that you can transition your gender and this guy he just falls apart It's like it's a complete world word salad from him and I gotta ask you, you know What does it say to you that there are leaders in this country?
That that hold these beliefs or are willing to go in with them because there's it's lucrative there's or you know political donations, etc What what is your response to something like that?
Well, I think it's fascinating.
A.J.
Hustington spoke during our summit, and I had moms texting me from all over the room who were saying, this is a problem, what he's saying is a lie, he vetoed the Do Not Harm Bill, we can see right through him, you cannot believe what he's saying, and yet here you have a presidential candidate on a stage talking about the fact that he's against the idea of gender-affirming care when his actions don't mirror that.
I don't think he's fooling anyone.
I think you're right.
The word salad just shows that people like to try to play both sides of this issue.
And there are not two sides.
There are wanting children to be able to be raised and grow up, to become their whole selves.
And then there is other treatment that people call treatment that really is stopping their natural development through puberty.
And as Libby and I have witnessed firsthand, some of the detransitioners, the things that they talk about, the damage to their bone density, the harms that they continue to have from all of these so-called gender affirming surgeries are, I mean, it's just awful.
So I think Asa Hutchinson, you know, stand for the truth and the truth will always show itself.
And I think, you know, especially with someone like this, I think you're going to want to hear the truth from them and then we can all make our decisions going forward.
And it's so strange to me because here's someone that we're told this is a conservative leader.
This is someone who's supposed to be standing up for the same beliefs that we all go for, because in a sense, you'd expect it from the left, right?
You'd expect it from the far left, that they would push something like this, but isn't it incredible, and I have to ask your comment on that as well, that there are people who are on the conservative side of the aisle that would be cosigning this kind of stuff?
Well, I think what it really was, was him not being willing to take a stand on this issue.
And you know, this issue has been difficult, I'm not going to lie, because from a parental rights standpoint, yes, we believe that every parent has the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their child.
But when you're talking about abuse, and from our opinion, this is child abuse.
The fact that you would, you know, children cannot consent to puberty blockers, the fact that, you know, Children are being sterilized.
We can't, you know, gloss over the fact that a lot of these children that go on puberty blockers and have these surgeries will never be able to have children.
I certainly didn't know at the age of 12 that I wanted to be a mom, right?
So, you know, we have to take a harder stand on these issues.
We've always seen this as an issue of the standard of care for gender dysphoria rather than a parental rights issue.
No parent has the right to abuse their child.
And we have always felt that if parents had accurate information, When it came to puberty blockers, when it came to these surgeries, that they would know the harms.
And that's been the issue all along, Jack, that there hasn't been honesty in informing parents about the real long-term harms of puberty blockers.
And you see Asa Hutchinson, you know, not being able to engage on this issue honestly.
And, you know, I hope American parents are watching.
Yeah, it's interesting, too, what you were saying, Tiffany, about parents not having the right to abuse their children.
And we see language from the left, we see language from people like State Senator Scott Weiner, who are saying that it is abuse to not allow your children to go through with puberty blockers and testosterone, estrogen treatments, surgeries in many cases.
How much do you think the language has to do with this issue?
Both sides are saying abuse means something completely different.
I think both sides are saying that care means something completely different, too, right?
That's true, too.
But if you're a parent, you want to safeguard your child's health and protection.
And Libby, I just really believe that when parents are shown the evidence of the harms of puberty blockers on children, and they realize that these things are not reversible, that the, you know, in Tanner Stage 2, if boys in the ages of 9 through 12 go on puberty blockers, they'll never have an orgasm in their entire lives.
How can a child make that decision, right?
I think language is very important.
Yeah, and especially when you have the left also simultaneously pushing education about sexual pleasure on kindergartners, and then they're encouraging kindergartners to grow into teenagers so that they can deny them of any kind of sexual satisfaction for literally the rest of their lives.
It is really shocking to see how that all goes down.
Yeah.
And Mark, you're not interested in having honest conversation.
It's never about real dialogue.
Better manipulation of the language, though.
Why do you think that there used to be this idea with gender transition, gender dysphoria for kids and teenagers, that you would undertake something called watchful waiting, and you would allow a child to grow up, you would allow them to grow out of it, you would allow them to figure out who they are without a whole bunch of overarching, forceful change on them.
Why do you think that that concept has been so pushed aside?
Well, I think the medical community in America has largely been captured, like all of the other institutions that we have seen, right?
So again, it's that honest information not getting to parents.
So I think, again, parents need honest information about puberty blockers, and I believe that most parents, when they know the harms of a lot of these things, will make a different decision than going down that path for their child.
What we also know, and we saw at Tavistock, was that a large percentage of these children are often suffering from autism.
Uh, as well, and that's something that I don't think gets talked enough about in America.
I went on Dr. Phil, and you're allowed to ask him one question.
I've been on twice.
Uh, once I asked him something about CRT, the second time I was on about parental rights, and I asked him, um, sir, like, what does it say to you that you have all of these children that are vulnerable in these different ways, and yet they're kind of being lured down this gender transition path?
And he didn't have a good answer for that.
They unfortunately cut that from the show, but I think it's something important that we should be talking more about in America.
Amen.
Tiffany, just about out of time for the show, where can people go to follow you and get more of your reactions and your work on this topic?
