EPISODE 492: BIDEN DOJ INDICTS TRUMP, PATRIOTS LAUNCH MAGA COUNTEROFFENSIVE
On today’s can’t miss edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec, Poso is joined by a star studded cast of guests including Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and Roger Stone where they dissect the latest updates on the indictments on President Trump. Congresswoman Greene also breaks down all of the details surrounding Biden taking a bribe from a Ukranian oligarch according to an FBI informant. If you’re a part of the MAGA counteroffensive this is an episode you MUST watch. All this plus Ti...
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We are in a fifth generational conflict.
For every lie they tell, we're gonna get in their face and yell two truths.
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Kosobik.
My fear is, if they can't imprison Donald Trump, what's next?
Assassination.
If the president in power can just jail his political opponents, which is what Joe Biden is trying to do tonight, we don't have a republic anymore.
They made the decision to interfere in this election.
You want to talk about an insurrection?
This is an insurrection!
They come after Donald Trump weaponizing the Justice Department, weaponizing the FBI.
We can't let this continue to go on because it's ripping our country to shreds.
Where's the money?
I'm joking.
Well listen, we just heard Joe Biden demonstrate the absolute smugness of being insulated by the most politically corrupt Department of Justice in history.
Not one single time suggested to the Justice Department what they should do or not do, whether to bring it to charge or not bring it to charge.
I hope that the committee goes after him and holds him accountable.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Human Events.
Today is June 9th, 2023.
I know, Dominic, I'm not going to mince words for folks.
You've heard about the bogus charges against the president.
You've heard about the bogus indictment.
We've got Marjorie Taylor Greene coming up at the end of the show with a bombshell interview about the actual money, the bribery that's been changing hands from Ukrainian oligarchs All the way to Biden and his crackhead son.
That's what they're trying to cover up.
We've also got Tiffany Justice, the Moms for Liberty.
Why?
Because the regime is going after not only our president, but also, yeah, that's right, I said it, our president, but also the mothers of this country.
They're going to go after anyone they can that stands against them.
Well, I'm calling for something right now, and that is the MAGA counteroffensive.
We will launch the MAGA counteroffensive.
This means President Trump's rallies this weekend.
This means rallying for him at the, and not just for him, by the way, for all of us.
down at Mar-a-Lago or Miami, wherever he chooses to have it.
And so I wanted to bring on someone who's an expert in counteroffensives, an expert in understanding public political opinion, and also someone who's been targeted by the very same forces that we see targeting the president now, the former strategist for the president, Mr. Roger Stone.
Roger, how are you?
Jack, great to be with you, even on this very, very sad day for our republic.
Well, I agree, Roger.
And I have to say, you know, when I sat through your trial, when that took place, when we sat through all of it, we see the very same corruption of our justice system, the weaponization of the political process, Do you view this as that same type of operation?
They went after you, they went after Flynn, they've gone after so many people.
Now we see the charges against the president.
It's identical, Jack.
I mean, look, I was naive to think at 6 o'clock in the morning when 29 heavily armed FBI agents in full SWAT gear brandishing M4 fully automatic assault weapons stormed my home to arrest me for the first time non-violent crime of allegedly lying to Congress about Russian collusion that never actually happened that I would get a fair trial.
Boy, was I wrong.
So, it is absolutely clear to me that the same folks are in charge, and they recognize that Donald Trump, an older, wiser Donald Trump, is an existential threat to their entire plan for the New World Order, and their plan essentially to cancel the U.S.
Constitution and destroy and erase our legacy, our history, and our heritage.
Uh, they really want to erase our basic freedoms.
Trump stands in the way.
They become increasingly apoplectic because, uh, even their own polls show that if election were held tomorrow, Trump would trounce Joe Biden.
Uh, they, they keep telling us in one breath, Trump is tired.
He's washed up.
He's old news.
There's Trump fatigue.
And then the next breath they say, Oh my God, we don't want to run against that guy because he's beaten them twice.
And they know that if we have a free Fair, honest election.
He will beat them again.
So what do they do?
They cook up a bunch of charges against him.
I don't think we're finished yet, by the way.
I think there'll be additional charges in additional jurisdictions because they're going to use the belt and suspenders approach in their attempt to destroy him.
They can't beat him at the ballot box.
So now they intend to flood the jury box.
Roger, you've talked so much about how these very same forces have gone after all populist presidents going back several generations at this point.
Do you think that's what's going on here?
Do we see these forces of, you know, call it the deep state, the permanent state, the administrative state, the bureaucracy, whatever name you like, is that what's still going on?
Yeah, this is, this is a continuation of a historic thread.
Look, they killed John F. Kennedy.
They actually murdered him because he wanted to dismantle the deep state and he had a deep distrust of the intelligence agencies after they botched the Bay of Pigs and kept him in the dark about the Russian, the Cuban Missile Crisis.
They took Richard Nixon out in a silent coup.
Why?
Because, well, he was for peace.
He ended the war in Vietnam.
He negotiated strategic arms limitation agreement with the Soviets.
He opened the door to China when China was a dirt or backwards agrarian society.
Nixon had no way of knowing that the Bushes would give most favored nation trading status to the Chinese and the Clintons would sell the Chinese our most Secret top military secrets making them the world power that they are today.
And then they tried to take Trump out repeatedly in the Russian collusion hoax.
John Durham's report completely exonerates me, by the way.
Then there was impeachment hoax number one, impeachment hoax number two.
These people never quit.
I mean, they are relentless in their pushing a lie and Trump Makes them crazy because now it is abundantly clear that he's got their number.
He understands what needs to be done in a second administration to have a second American revolution, and he's inching closer and closer to victory, and this makes them insane.
I think it's exactly right.
What we're seeing here is a death of a thousand cuts approach.
There's this idea that if they can go after him, belt suspenders, right, that they can go after him in this jurisdiction, another jurisdiction, looking at Georgia.
I believe, and we've talked about this with the great Julie Kelly, that they are going to try to take the same seditious conspiracy charge that they leveled against the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, etc., and then place that to President Trump.
We are going to come back because, Roger, I want you to give your handicap.
Now, we haven't seen polls yet.
I haven't had Trafalgar or Barris on or anybody, I haven't even spoken to Rasmussen about this.
I want to know what do we think is going to happen in the presidential primary because this is going on.
I have yet to see anyone suspend their campaign in solidarity with President Trump or at least even call for a pause.
So, stay tuned.
We're going to be coming back with The Great Roger Stone.
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Alright folks, Jack Posobiec back with Roger Stone.
We do have breaking news.
The indictment against President Trump has been unsealed.
37 counts.
This is the same, you know, shock and awe kind of tactic that you saw with Alvin Bragg by breaking up every single piece they could into a separate count.
37 counts, including 31 counts of quote, Willful retention of presidential, you know, national defense information.
Again, I just want to remind everyone the law here.
The President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief.
Classification exists because of the Office of the Presidency.
It is through the Office of the Presidency that all classification runs.
It actually falls from, right?
There is no overarching classification authority.
He is the OCA, the Originating Classification Authority.
If the President of the United States deems something to be unclassified, it is unclassified thusly.
He doesn't have to file a form with anyone.
He doesn't have to wave a magic wand.
And it doesn't matter what he says at Bedminster.
It doesn't matter where he says anywhere else.
That's the way the classification system works.
But we know that.
They know that.
Everyone who goes through basic 101 level Intel analysis knows that.
Like when I was an intelligence officer.
But Roger...
What I want to get back to you is, this is going to affect the race.
I believe it's going to affect the race.
It will certainly shake up the primary.
Let's go through some of the scenarios.
Do you believe that this will lead to a bump for President Trump?
Do you think it'll cause perhaps some people to shy away and then take another look at Governor DeSantis of Florida, who is yet to suspend his campaign?
Obviously, Vivek Ramaswamy has been out there really swinging for the fences for President Trump.
What is your handicap?
Actually, I think it's counterintuitive, Jack, but I think we're going to see the same effect that we saw in the wake of the New York indictments.
In other words, that which does not kill Trump actually makes him stronger.
Most Americans, certainly most Republicans, see through this charade.
I mean, with this announcement of 37 charges, I have to assume the special counsel investigating Joe Biden's handling of documents, I'm sure he's going to be announcing the indictment of Joe Biden tomorrow.
Oh, wait a minute.
Yes, of course, in Delaware.
So I think most folks understand, within the party certainly, within the movement, that all this really does is reinforce the fact that Donald Trump is our strongest candidate.
He's our strongest candidate, clearly, to be nominated.
He dwarfs Governor DeSantis, despite the fact that the governor's Spending millions of dollars of globalist money to try to reinvent himself as Donald Trump without the hair, which is not really working.
But I also think that the Democrats are panicked by the fact that all of the polls, all the credible polls, have showed him pulling away from Joe Biden.
That's exactly why they have done this.
So I would predict to you the president goes up in the polls.
I would also predict to you that his campaign war chest will be fattened with With millions of more small donations, which has always been where he's traditionally got his money.
Anybody who knows Donald Trump understands that he is, above all, not a quitter.
He will never quit.
He's a warrior.
I think he will now just double down.
But there are some troubling questions, Jack.
Will they put a gag order on him?
Will they restrict his travel?
They did both those things to me when I was under federal charges.
You know the president is very articulate and aggressive in terms of defending himself in public.
Are they going to try to shut that down?
If so, it would be outrageous.
It would be clear election interference.
But it is one of the things that could happen, which would substantially hamper his campaign.
I think that's exactly right.
So he has two rallies this weekend, I believe, one in Georgia, one in South Carolina.
Then we're told that he is going to be turning himself in in Miami, the Southern District.
And there is a real possibility, if that is the case, these could be the final two MAGA rallies that take place before the campaign.
Is that right?
I think that's absolutely true.
You said something earlier that I want to address that I think is very, very important.
For those who decide to join any public protest, anybody who wants to demonstrate their support for the president, anyone who wants to protest the injustice of this, it is essential that you keep it peaceful, you keep it civil, and you keep it legal.
They would like nothing better than some kind of false flag operation in which they can blame Trump supporters for violence that they incite.
So remember, not everybody wearing a MAGA hat is really your friend.
And above all, keep it peaceful, keep it legal, keep it civil.
It's a trap, folks.
We've already been through it once.
If you elect to go to Miami, it is absolutely essential that you do so in an orderly, civil, and legal manner.
If you intend to go to these rallies, the same is true there.
Well, Roger, I think that's exactly right.
So myself, Gavin Wax, Vish Bhura, others did end up holding a protest for the president outside of the Manhattan courthouse, and it was extremely peaceful.
It was very peaceful.
That being said, there in Manhattan, hard to get to for a lot of people.
I think in Southern Florida, it'd be much easier to build large numbers.
If people come, I think they need to do so, as the president told us, peacefully and patriotically.
And I would love to see if his campaign were to hold some sort of rally, perhaps even that night, if he's able to, to sort of take that energy, take that pent-up anger, and then turn it into what I call the MAGA counter-offensive.
A display of support, a display of force, a display of political force, of course.
I have to say that for the media matters, guys.
A display of patriotism to show them that we are not going to give up this country.
We're not going to give up our ideals to this idea that you can just indict your opponent.
This is something that you would see in Eastern Europe.
Yeah, this is reminiscent of communist Cuba or communist China.
I can just tell you, the Cuban-American community, the Venezuelan-American community, people are on fire with their outrage, but they need to temper it.
Numbers, we show strength in our numbers.
I'd like to see a candlelight visual, to be honest with you.
I could see thousands of people in the darkness holding candles to protest this.
But it is essential that we mobilize to demonstrate our public support, but we not step into the trap set previously and get, you know, some incitement to violence that is then flipped around and used against Trump supporters.
I think you're exactly right and it's imperative that we take that into consideration because we've seen how they've used even loose language on Facebook or private messages and to turn that into some sort of grand overarching conspiracy against the United States and they will use this because this is who you're dealing with and you have to be very careful Who you're talking to in a MAGA hat.
You have to be careful who you're talking to online.
We're coming up on a break.
Roger, I want to keep you over for one last take on this because I want to get into this real question of Governor DeSantis.
Governor DeSantis, do you want to go down like Theon Greyjoy or Jon Snow?
Are you going to ride to the defense of this nation or not?
All right, and we're back with Roger Stone.
Roger, this sets up a very dangerous, or I should say risky situation, precarious position for Governor DeSantis.
Let's say you're DeSantis right now, you're advising DeSantis right now.
How would you play something like this?
Let's assume you're staying in the race.
I think he wants to be president.
I get it.
But he wants to play this in a way to try to pick up the MAGA votes while also maintaining his own candidacy.
Is it possible to thread that needle?
How should he play this?
I think it's actually too late.
I think that there's a substantial subset of voters, both within the Republican Party, but also outside the Republican Party, general election voters, who will have an undying enmity for Governor DeSantis based on his disloyalty.
Ron DeSantis is not an exceptional talent, sorry.
He only got to the governorship through the tweeted endorsement of Donald J. Trump.
Right now he'd be a former congressman who gave up his seat to run for governor, but for Trump.
And it's even worse than that, because as you know, once nominated through Trump's endorsement, Trump had to drag him across the finish line by changing his schedule to come to Florida three times in the final weeks of the 2018 campaign.
And therefore, there is an underlying distrust among a subset of voters that Ron DeSantis would need to ever become president, whether it's in 2024 or 2028.
If I were him, I would fold my tent, I would endorse the president, and I would get back to solving the problems of Florida.
By the way, Ron DeSantis took $9.5 million from Florida Power and Light.
We just got a 22% increase in our electricity bills.
If your home was blown away in Hurricane Ian and your home insurance company is offering you pennies on the dollar to replace your roof or maybe replace your entire home, you can no longer sue them because of a bill signed by Governor Ron DeSantis after he took four and a half million dollars from the you can no longer sue them because of a bill signed by Governor Ron DeSantis after he took This state has serious problems.
We elected a good man, I think.
I voted for him just five months ago.
He's 42 years old.
He needs to wait his turn.
Right now, the man who can take on the deep state, the man who can end the war in Ukraine, the man who can get America back on track is Donald Trump.
Ron DeSantis has no international experience.
Donald Trump has, I think, the respect and fear of our adversaries abroad.
He needs to get on board right now and call out the outrageousness of what's being done to the president.
I think, I actually agree with you.
I think that if, and I said it before I'll say it again, does Governor DeSantis want to go down like Theon Greyjoy or Jon Snow?
Do you want to betray the people that helped you out or do you want to be the seen as the person riding to their defense?
I think it would ultimately benefit him, maybe not in this particular race, but long down the line that people would remember that he took a stand, that he turned down something, because look, it seems to me that he's looking for a free pass to a free victory in the primary, this idea that somehow all of these convictions will lead to President Trump being knocked off of the ballot, and then you sort of win by default.
Look, in pro wrestling, they would say to be the man, you got to beat the man.
And if you don't beat him fair and square, I don't see how that 35, by his own campaign's admission, 35% of people are only Trump voters.
So if that's true, how are you ever going to get those people to come out for you if, by this process, you've been made the nominee by default?
It beggars disbelief.
In 1964, the Republican Party nominated Mr. Conservative Barry Goldwater for president.
The rhinos of that day, Nelson Rockefeller, George Romney, Mitt's father, Bill Scranton, they all took a powder.
They left.
They wouldn't endorse him.
They wouldn't campaign with him.
Richard Nixon, plotting a future race for president, campaigned more vigorously for Barry Goldwater than Goldwater did for himself.
Four years later, when conservatives in the Republican Party had to choose between Nixon and Reagan, you know what they said?
Good old Richard Nixon, man.
He was with us when the chips were down, and he made the greatest single comeback in political history.
Ron DeSantis has a unique opportunity here to stand up and be counted, do the right thing, and he will be the nominee in four years.
But to continue his candidacy makes him Benedict DeSantis.
By the way, Roger, one piece of, I'm sure you know this political trivia, but one of the organizations, or I should say institutions at the time, that came out very strongly for Goldwater all the way back in 1963 was of course Human Events Magazine, the very same Human Events that we are now
Attempting or I should say we have resurrected and brought back into the political forefront to maintain that same populist American grassroots voice at the national level.
Jack, you cannot understand the importance of human events unless you were alive in that time.
When I was working for Ronald Reagan in 19—well, actually, all the way back to the Nixon days, it was a rightward pressure on the Nixon administration.
It was a seminal publication in the 76 and 80 Reagan campaigns.
Everybody got their human events.
As soon as it was published, it really was an opinion leader on the American right.
That's why I'm so delighted to be here today, and the way you have revived it is truly historic.
Along with National Review, it is one of the most important conservative organs of all time.
Well, we're certainly hoping that the establishment can have National Review, and I think that the people can have human events.
Roger, where can people follow you?
Where can people keep up with all your analysis?
You're right about that.
National Review has wandered far from their origins, whereas human events has remained a constant.
And a periodical of principle.
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Roger, thank you so much for being on.
Thank you for your time as always.
We'll have to get you more on to give us the twists and turns as only you know the man who's actually been there in the arena from day one himself.
Roger Stone, God bless.
Thanks, Jack.
God bless you.
You know, I can't recommend more Rogers book on JFK.
I read I read that when I was still in the Navy.
And I was I was on deployment.
And I was in in the, you know, in the bowels of the USS Blue Ridge.
And I read that book, I would say cover to cover, but I was actually reading it on a Kindle, right.
So, you know, Because you can't take too many books and you're in the old c-locker.
So I was reading out of Kindle and I just sat there and every minute I had, whether I was in the galley, if I was getting food, I was getting chow, if I was on break, I was reading that book.
I could not put it down.
We did a fantastic interview with Roger a few months ago on this.
You can find it in the Human Events Back catalog.
Who killed Now, we are going to go next to Tiffany Justice, another person and organization that the regime has in their crosshairs.
Stay tuned, be right back with her.
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Folks, we have a guest that I've been meaning to get on for a very long time, and I've been remiss to have not had her on since.
We've talked to her many, many times when I've been co-hosting or guest hosting on The War Room.
That is Tiffany Justice of the Moms4Liberty.
She has an incredible event that's going to be coming up right in my own backyard, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
It's at the end of it's at the end of the month, at the end of June, beginning of July.
So Independence Day weekend, essentially right there in Philadelphia, the Moms for Liberty.
Tiffany Justice, you guys are out there.
You're changing the world.
And yet the regime is coming after you.
What's going on?
Well, it appears that parental rights are quite the threat to a lot of people that are in power right now and Moms for Liberty stands for parental rights.
Our mission statement is to unify, educate, and empower parents to defend their parental rights at all levels of government.
And that looks a lot like right now being targeted by, it seems, the Biden administration and some of their friends.
Well, that's exactly right, because this organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center, they exist in terms of a business model by targeting particularly upper class or upper to middle class families on the left.
There are these Joy Reed Watchers.
Rachel Maddow, Jake Tapper, drinking the wine out of the box, and they say, oh, there's, you know, hate is on the rise, hate is on the rise.
Well, the problem is, when they've already gotten rid of the KKK, when they've already gotten rid of actual hate groups, then what they do is they have to start moving the chains or else they're not going to be able to raise any more money from those same individuals, those mailers, etc., etc.
And so they even had to kick out their own founder, Morris Dees, because of his own racism and sexism and bigotry and insanity that he was pushing.
But of course, the grift continues, and now they're labeling Christians, they're labeling conservatives, and now even the moms as some type of domestic extremist.
And the goal here with this, by the way, and we push it down, but the goal here, by the way, is that they used to in this country, and I'm so glad to see the The pushback on this, because their goal is to go then to PayPal, to Venmo, to Stripe, to Square, and say, you know what?
You can't do business with these guys.
Look, we put them on a list.
Have you faced any issues with payment processing, donations, these type of things in the wake of this?
Yeah, we have faced some issues with PayPal a couple months ago, and Governor DeSantis held a press conference.
We were able to speak out about it, and it seemed like they freed up the funds.
We have not.
At any issue this time.
I have to be honest, Jack, I really feel like they've gone too far this time.
I agree.
I think that America is watching as, you know, moms and these other groups are being targeted.
We watch, you know, where would they get this idea of domestic terrorists?
Well, from the Department of Justice.
We saw that the NSBA worked with the Biden administration and then the Department of Justice turned and called parents domestic terrorists.
I testified in front of the Constitution and Limited Government Subcommittee regarding the weaponization of the FBI against American parents.
And now we have what looks like the Southern Poverty Law Center having a meeting with the Biden administration on January 6th of this year.
And what do you know?
This report comes out.
And so I'm sure that the intention is to try to cancel us or dox us, but we will not be stopped.
And we're going to go ahead and have this summit in Philadelphia and rock the cradle of liberty because we're not taking any stars off the American flag and we're going to start fighting for these cities where we know parents want to defend their parental rights.
Tiffany, tell us more about the event.
I know we only have a couple of minutes with you left.
Yeah, it's going to be an amazing event.
So Philadelphia, June 29th through July 2nd.
We're at the Marriott downtown.
We have President Trump speaking, Governor DeSantis is coming, Vivek Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley, Dennis Prager, Mark Robinson, some amazing, amazing, amazing main stage speakers, and a panel with some of the best and brightest education leaders across the United States right now.
Ellen Weaver, State Superintendent in South Carolina, Manny Diaz from Florida, Jacob Oliva from Arkansas, newly appointed by Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
And then Ryan Walters in Oklahoma, working under Governor Stitt.
We'll do a panel talking about the future of education.
And then there's going to be breakout sessions.
There's 18 different breakout sessions that people can go to.
So, Jack, it's all about really giving parents the resources and tools they need, right?
Equipping these moms to be able to, you know, unify their communities, educate their chapter members and others in their community about issues, and then hopefully empower them to make change happen.
Look, I gotta tell you, as a conservative out of the Philly area, and now a father, I am so glad that you chose Philadelphia for this, because we have to go back to the birthplace of liberty where it all started.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And so, we'll have our opening night at the Revolutionary War Museum, and that's gonna be fantastic.
And you're right, you know, we need to start fighting for America.
God bless you.
Tiffany, go to momsforliberty.org.
God bless you, Tiffany.
God bless your fight.
We are going to be with you.
Human Events will be with you and all of us.
Turning Point, Turning Point Action, etc.
Every step of the way, we are not going to let them take you down.
Nice.
Thanks, Jack.
We really appreciate the support.
God bless.
Look, folks, Philadelphia, right?
You know, I have such a love-hate relationship because, you know, you see what it's turned into, but at the same time, you know, going to Independence Hall, going to the Franklin Institute on every single field trip as a kid.
Tanya Tay and I, we got engaged at Valley Forge.
We got married right at a church at Valley Forge.
This is the true birthplace of our nation.
It's the birthplace of liberty itself, and we need to start We need to actually start taking the fight back politically to the people that have stolen our cities, that have stolen our country, that are trying to steal our republic.
Go back to where the republic itself started.
Folks, we have a bombshell interview.
Marjorie Taylor Greene straight from the skiff to human events is going to tell us everything that is in these documents on Biden.
All right, we're very excited and thrilled to have Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who joins us today.
Congresswoman, you've been making incredible news this week, really exposing and blowing apart, I think, the final piece of the Burisma case for us that we've been talking about for years at this point.
But everybody's always been looking for the smoking gun.
You go into the skiff after finally putting pressure, along with the Speaker, the rest of the House, on the FBI.
You go into the skiff, you get to see the smoking gun, and on the very day you reveal it to the public, they indict President Trump.
Congresswoman, what is going on?
Well, it's exactly what you said, and Jack, you've been One of the many that have been right all along, so I just want you to know you've been vindicated.
You've been trying to tell the truth, the American people, and it's been our agencies and the FBI specifically have have hidden it from the American people.
And so yesterday, you know, after a month, we've been going back and forth with the FBI.
We subpoenaed Christopher Wray and a specific FD 1023 form, which I want everyone to know Is an unclassified form.
It's not classified, but the FBI wouldn't even admit it existed in the beginning until they figured out they had no choice.
We have a whistleblower that had already shown us a copy of it, so we know exactly what's on the form.
And finally, Christopher Ray started cooperating with us because we were going to hold him.
And of Congress yesterday, so he allowed all of the oversight committee to start looking at the form yesterday.
And I happen to be in there right from the beginning.
And what I did is they didn't want us to have the form.
They haven't given us possession because they're still trying to protect Joe Biden and not let the country know what the form said.
But I took notes inside the skiff and I wrote down everything that the document said.
It's unclassified.
And then I took my notes and they wouldn't let me take my notes out of the skiff.
So I filed them in a file in the skiff.
So and then I then I left and I wrote down everything from memory because it was easy to remember because I just read it multiple times and had taken notes and I wrote down and made detailed notes and then I walked out and told the press conference everything that I had read because I'm appalled that America is not allowed to have this information that tells specifically
About Hunter Biden and Joe Biden each taking separately $5 million payments.
So that's a total of $10 million, but $5 million went to Hunter Biden.
$5 million went to Joe Biden when he was Vice President of the United States in order for him to put pressure on Ukraine by withholding $1 billion in USAID and getting the prosecutor, Victor Shokin, fired so that he wouldn't investigate Burisma anymore.
Well, and this is exactly what, again, people forget that when President Trump called Zelensky, it's amazing, by the way, how Zelensky and Ukraine are right at the center of all of these different things, that when he called him, he was asking if Zelensky could look into this situation as well, but it wasn't predicated off of some, you know, some rumor or some internet thing.
It was that Joe Biden went and publicly bragged about getting the prosecutor fired in public.
That's where this all started from Joe Biden's own mouth.
That's right.
He did it publicly on camera.
And then there's also a recording of him on a phone call talking about the USAID money.
And they let him know on the phone call that Victor Shoken has been fired.
And he replies, good, very good.
And then it's on that phone call he releases USAID money.
There's more evidence of Joe Biden Committing crimes, and this is real criminal behavior, which is terrifying.
As Vice President, he not only took bribe money in exchange for foreign policy decisions, but he got paid $5 million doing it, and that's what this 1023 form outlines.
But I gotta tell you something else, Jack.
The 1023 also references Two other 1023 forms.
So there's more forms about the Bidens.
And next week, Chairman Comer and the minority-linking member, Congressman Raskin, will be going in to look at the two additional 1023 forms.
And today, we sent out subpoenas to two more banks to get bank records and statements in relationship with Ukraine.
So we feel like we are on the trail to something.
Um, to explore, you know, to expose the real evidence of these Biden's crimes.
And that is why they are cranking up the heat, uh, going after president Trump and guiding him because he's their top political enemy.
And, and Jack, everyone needs to really be scared of this.
They should be very concerned.
Their intention is to put president Trump in jail.
I think you're exactly right, and when people look at this, when you go to Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution, it specifically says, we all know in the Impeachment Clause it says high crimes and misdemeanors, but right before that it says treason or bribery.
Bribery was specifically delineated by the Founding Fathers in the Impeachment Statute of the U.S.
Constitution as an impeachable offense because they knew how dangerous it was for our nation.
Oh yeah, it's so dangerous.
But this 23 form is so detailed.
The FBI told us that this informant that filled out this form is actually their top informant.
This is the informant they consider to be their most credible paid informant.
And the information is in chronological order on this form.
The date is June 30th, 2020.
But it details out storyline after storyline of multiple conversations in the CHS, which is the Department.
And the oligarch from Burisma.
And it goes all the way back to 2015 and 2016.
And it's really interesting the details that are provided in the 1023 form.
One of the details that was so interesting was the oligarch that owns Burisma brags to the informant in such an interesting way.
He says, that it'll take 10 years for the US, that's us, to find all the bank statements and wire transfers of the bank to buy.
That's 10 years.
Well, look at what Republicans on oversight have been able to do in less than six months, Jack.
And I really believe God is on our side with this one.
I think you're exactly right.
We're coming up on a quick break.
Let me take that.
We're going to work on getting the signal back up.
We are on with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
She is explaining to us this bombshell information.
Multiple meetings with an FBI informant.
The top informant came out on the heels of the Biden investigation meeting with the oligarch in charge of Burisma in Ukraine.
Stay tuned.
and we're back here, Human Events.
Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene responding to the indictment of President Trump, but also detailing for us these conversations between a highly paid, highly placed, high P&A placement and access, we would say, in the biz.
Informant working directly with the oligarch in charge of Burisma, who then turned around, hired Hunter Biden, we know, put Hunter Biden on that board.
We're now hearing, was bragging, that he was giving a $5 million payment to Hunter, another $5 million payment to his father Joe Biden, to get this prosecutor, Victor Shokin, fired.
Of course, we know that in the past, Biden Was bragging about this.
Where we left, Congresswoman, you were telling us that there are more forms that the FBI has.
This operation was run over a period of, it looks like almost, we're looking at almost a decade here at this point.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And this is why it's imperative that Christopher Wray keep cooperating with us.
And he is cooperating because he knows his days are numbered.
The polling is there.
President Trump will win, and no one can deny it.
The Democrats are actually terrified, and this is why they're ramping up their fake investigations or fake charges and actually charging President Trump with outrageous crime that their Democrat leaders are actually guilty of themselves.
But the form, the 1023 form I read yesterday, pulled of two other 1023 forms.
And so next week, Chairman Comer and Congressman Raskin We'll be going in and reading those two forms and then our two subpoenas to bank to banks involving bank statements and bank accounts with Ukraine.
We sent those out today.
So we are going to keep tracking this information down.
But here's something else that everyone really needs to know.
The oligarch for Ukraine, the informant, they were having many conversations and that's what's on this 1023 form.
And one of them is the informant explains that in Russia and Ukraine, it's just commonplace practice and business that that bribes take place.
As a matter of fact, businessmen and anyone starting a business or buying a business or making a business deal includes in their budgets extra money for bribes.
So it's normal for them.
It's so normal.
It's it's not really that illegal.
It's just normal.
But in America, obviously, that's illegal.
And like you said, our Constitution Outlines that is an impeachable offense, bribery.
And so for the oligarch, this was normal.
He was paying a bribe to the vice president of the United States because Joe Biden is vice president, had the ability to get Victor Shoken fired, who was targeting him and prosecuting, investigating to prosecute Burisma.
But here's the other interesting thing.
After he mentions bribery being commonplace, the oligarch That owns Burisma bragged to the informant and says it'll take them talking about us in the United States 10 years to find all the bank records and wire transfers and fake statements with the Bidens.
He's bragging about it because the Bidens do this so much and there's so much information out there to find.
And I want to tell you, Jack, that it didn't take us 10 years.
It took us less than six months.
But we have over 2300 pages of SARS reports in the Treasury.
We have up to 12 banks we have subpoenaed.
We have so many bank statements and wire transfers where money was wire transferred from foreign countries into fake LLCs, dozens and dozens of fake LLCs, and then payments from these fake LLCs and shell companies to Biden, to so many Biden family members.
So the The oligarch that owns Burisma was right about one part, that there were so many bank records and statements and wire transfers.
But what he was wrong about is it's not going to take us 10 years.
We are doing it in less than six months and we need more time.
And we are getting no cooperation, hardly any cooperation from the FBI, because they won't let us hold possession of these unclassified 1023s.
I mean, this is some of the most shocking information that we've heard, because, and it seems to me, it really does seem to me, that if they did not indict, if they had not indicted President Trump this week, that what you're saying right now would be the lead on every single newspaper out there.
And yet, of course, they can't, because they've now placed this cover story, this distraction, directly on top of it.
Do you believe that's why they rushed to indict President Trump this week?
Oh, absolutely.
If we were a just nation, if our laws really mattered, they would be hauling Joe Biden out of the White House in handcuffs.
We would be seeing that all over the news.
And I want to add on about the last piece of the 1023 form, which I find very interesting.
Because bribes are so commonplace and it's a part of business, and I own a business, so I understand business records.
You always keep your accounts and receivables.
You always keep your Your payables and receivables, you keep it all because you need that for taxes and so on.
Well, the last thing mentioned on the 1023 form is the oligarch that owns Burisma tells the informant that this is after he says he's unhappy President Trump won.
He's unhappy because he lost his most powerful connection, which was Joe Biden.
But this is really interesting.
He says that he kept two pieces of evidence showing that he paid Not only Hunter Biden, but the deep paid Joe Biden.
He kept the evidence and anyone that understands what that means, you have to get it.
If you're in a, if you're in a country where bribery is commonplace, the only way to make sure the people you're bribing come through on your bribes is you hold the evidence and the proof that you bribed them.
And so that oligarch that owns Burisma told the informant.
That he kept two pieces of evidence proving that he paid Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.
And he's, who knows where this guy is over it with everything that's going on in Ukraine, the money that's going through.
It would be interesting to see which companies are getting this money that's going through.
Congresswoman, we are up against the end of the show.
We have to have you back on as this investigation continues.
God bless you for your yeoman's work on this.
Thank you so much.
Where can people go to follow you?
People can follow me on any of my social media and Jack, I'll make sure that I can bring back all the information that I continue to get in this investigation because I believe the entire country deserves to know.
Well, I believe you're right.
And what you're talking about is not these, you know, these paper filing, mishandling, etc, etc.
Oh, he misfiled this, he misfiled that.
No, you're talking about actual high crimes and misdemeanors.
The bribery of the Vice President, potentially destabilizing our country, potentially destabilizing Ukraine.
Sending them on a collision course for war with Russia that we've now seen, which has been completely disastrous.
This is what the regime is doing, the globalist American empire that we've been telling you about for years.
Folks, now it is time for the MAGA counter-offensive.
