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Dec. 25, 2021 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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HUMAN EVENTS CHRISTMAS SPECIAL: INTERVIEW WITH TANYA TAY POSOBIEC

A very special episode of Human Events Daily as Jack Posobiec is joined by his wife Tanya Tay and they discuss the true meaning of Christmas, and the birth of Jesus Christ.Here is your daily dose of Human Events with @JackPosobiecSupport the Show.

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So, we've been recording these episodes for Human Events Daily and really taking the time over this Christmas week to step back and talk about what matters, what Christmas means to us, what the new year means to us, and I knew that I wanted to do an episode on Christmas itself.
And I couldn't think of anybody that I wanted to have on the Christmas episode more than my wife.
The lovely and beautiful Tanya Tay.
Thank you, dear.
Who, you know, and it's amazing.
Like, think about this.
Here we are.
We are recording this at the Turning Point Studios.
We're in the podcast booth, this beautiful, beautiful studio that Turning Point has.
And this is not how we started out doing, you know, shows like this.
How was it when we started?
Not at all.
I remember just Dragging you to the country concerts in the early days.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Remember that time?
But then what we did used to do on the Periscope, remember we would do Periscopes together, but that wasn't with, you know, the nice microphones and the lights and the beautiful video background and all.
That was literally just like a phone in the spare bedroom.
And it was just me and you talking.
And often just on the go.
I remember all the places we would go visit and you just turn it on without even giving me a notice.
I was like, oh, we're on air.
I might give you like a 30 second hammer.
Hey, let's go live.
No, you did not.
Okay, maybe like three seconds.
But we used to do, and I remember, and what people actually don't know is that when I very first started, when I was doing Rebel, videos for Rebel, that it was you that was behind the camera that was in our spare bedroom, in our old house, where you were turning the lights on, pressing record on the camera.
I was your very first producer.
My very first producer, yeah.
And my very first field producer, do you remember where the very first place we went together to do a documentary was?
Yes, I do.
Where was it?
It was Malmo.
Malmo, Sweden.
We went to the no-go zones and I said, hey, sweetheart.
We were just dating at the time, right?
We weren't engaged yet?
No, not yet.
I think it was a couple months before we got engaged.
And I said, sweetheart, how would you like to go to Europe?
And you're like, where in Europe?
And you go, Sweden.
Yeah, do you want to go to Sweden?
And then what happened?
And then we got to the no-go zones.
The no-go zones of Sweden.
With everybody having a cover on their head but me.
And then suddenly I looked around and...
Realized that it's a little bit different over here, huh?
Not exactly.
But we did.
But I get my camera on.
In my credit.
In my credit.
To make sure we get all the live video and shots.
In my defense, right.
We did go to.
We did go to.
We kept going to that train station.
You remember?
Because we had the smorgasbord.
Smorgasbord.
And we had.
And you fell in love with the Swedish open-faced sandwiches.
I remember that.
Because that is all seafood in Malmo.
And you are a seafood fan.
Yes.
Got a few stories going back and here we are now with two little boys talking about Christmas and Well, so yeah, and that's really what, you know, coming into it from a Christmas, you know, and we're going to release this on Christmas Day, so if people are listening to it on Christmas Day, Merry Christmas!
That is what we say, of course.
Merry Christmas to everybody from us, the Posobics, to all of you.
We hope you're having a great day, having a Merry Christmas.
Maybe you're on your way to Mass or church, or maybe you just finished it.
Maybe you finished wrapping up the presents and you're just driving somewhere, and I thought, you know...
Finished wrapping up the presents!
Or finished unwrapping the presents, unwrapping the presents.
Hopefully it's unwrapping.
Some people are still wrapping them on Christmas morning.
We don't have to name any names, but I may have gotten up a little bit early on a few Christmas mornings to do that.
But I wanted to talk about how...
And for people who don't realize this, is that Christmas in Eastern Europe isn't as big as it is in the West.
So for you growing up, Christmas wasn't so much of this, of the holiday with the tree and the lights and the presents and all of it.
But one thing that you have said is that growing up in Eastern Europe, and for people who don't know, and I think everybody knows this, but you know, there's always that one person.
So I always say it.
So Tanya was born in In the Soviet Union, she grew up there.
Then the country, of course, Soviet Union fell apart when she was very little.
Then it was instituted as the breakaway Republic of Belarus.
It still is the Republic of Belarus to this day.
And I think, what, 16 years now since you immigrated?
Yes, going in 16 years.
In 16 years.
So, but growing up, what was, and also, by the way, you know, since we're talking about this, you know, so I grew up Catholic, but you grew up Orthodox.
So for in Orthodox Christmas, it's not December 25th, is it?
It's not.
So, to everybody who is from Eastern Europe, it's not Christmas that is to the same scale or level.
It's actually first comes New Year's.
And New Year's Eve and then New Year's Day is huge.
So the whole month of December, I remember just getting ready for New Year's, getting all excited, doing all the plays and shows in school.
And then Dad would bring a tree.
Around December 30th so it was not even we were not talking about this huge celebration until very last few days of December and then maybe December 31st we would put up the tree do all the lights and then January 1st is a huge day when you would wake up in the early in the morning and all Open up all your gifts.
And that was the gift given.
Like the first of the year started with all the presents.
And so in Orthodox Christmas, and I want people to be clear about this, it's New Year's comes first, and then Orthodox Christmas is January 6th.
Correct.
So one week after, you would have Orthodox Christmas.
And it has more of a religious connotation to it.
Most people would go to church.
Because you've already done tree and presents and all that.
You did the tree, you had all the presents, you had all the unwrapping fun, and then January 6th, the night of January 6th to the 7th is when all the Orthodox will celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, and then all Very often they would go to Overnight Mass.
I love Overnight Mass.
That's my favorite.
I did it one time.
I was only able to do it once.
It was a long night.
By the way, for people who don't know, Orthodox Mass is, I mean, especially at Christmas, and I've done an Orthodox Easter, and I remember Orthodox Easter service overnight was, when they say overnight, it's literally overnight.
This thing, it was like three hours.
Three hours.
More like five.
Wow, seriously.
It was until the sunrise.
So you go in at midnight?
You go in at midnight for five hours.
And just to give a little context, it's not your typical Catholic church where you have seats for everybody, where people can just sit on the bench or kneel.
You are standing up for five hours.
There's no pews, no chairs.
No.
For five hours, overnight, you are standing, listening to the priest.
People do a lot of praying, of course, and you're standing up.
And incense is everywhere.
You have so much incense, you actually think you're in heaven.
You actually think that you've made your way there.
Very close to it, yes.
Wow.
That's hardcore.
So five hours.
How old were you when you did that?
I must have been 11 or 12.
I remember I asked my mom because I've heard all my aunts always talk about it and how huge it was.
And one time I asked my mom if I could go and we did.
Now did she go with you?
She did go with me, yes.
So it was me and my mom.
Did your sister go?
No, at the time she was very little.
So just you and your mom?
Yes.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
It was quite an experience.
Oh, man.
Five hours.
Hardcore.
Hardcore.
That's Christmas on hard mode, ladies and gentlemen.
And so, okay, we're not going to do that.
So, wait, wait.
So that means that if you went...
To an Orthodox Mass for five hours.
If I want to go to a Latin Mass, that's only an hour and a half.
That's nothing.
That's nothing, then.
That's nothing.
If I want to do Vespers, if I want to do that midnight Mass, then that's no big deal at all, is it?
Absolutely not.
All right.
Mark it down, folks.
Mark it down.
He just got me for a Latin Mass.
Just got you.
I say that to everybody.
If you're Catholic, I always say just go to Latin Mass.
That's a big thing.
That is the traditional one.
That is the one you want to go to.
And honestly, the Latin Mass and the Orthodox Mass are pretty similar, right?
There is one of the things that is quite similar that I've noticed was that the priest is actually facing the altar.
So he's looking at the cross with Jesus Christ away from the crowd.
Right, and so the way I look at it is, yeah, the way I've always pictured it is, you know, it's the priest is facing Christ.
The priest is facing God the same way that everybody is facing it.
And so it's as opposed to the priest facing the people because you're not there for the people.
You're there for God.
And so it's a different way of looking at it.
And so it's something that I didn't quite understand until I started going myself.
And then I realized that, oh, wait, wait, it actually does give you A kind of a different connotation on things.
So that's something that, you know, that I like.
But we don't always go to Latin Mass, to be clear.
We do sometimes, very often...
People like to mix it up sometimes.
...go to our local parish, and we really enjoy that.
But, you know, just certain occasions, special occasions.
Oh, I love it.
Oh, I love it.
I love it so much.
In nome dei Padre, et Filii, e Spiritus Sancti.
Amen.
And, but, you know, getting back to...
To Christmas, so that you're here in the US, you've been here 16 years.
What was it like, you know, kind of experiencing Western Christmas and, you know, sort of learning the more Western Christian Christmas traditions?
I remember how much I was impressed by Christmas, the first, the very first Christmas, because late November, suddenly all the stores had all the Christmas lights and Santas and all the And I was like, why?
It's like a month away.
Why is everybody already into Christmas?
To somebody who had a Christmas tree in the house on December 31st.
So it was quite shocking to me.
But then I really got into the whole Christmas tunes.
And I remember learning some of my first Christmas songs.
And to this day, I love turning my radio on while I'm driving.
With boys somewhere and making sure they hear all the tunes because that's the spirit of Christmas.
I've always said that for Christians, by the way, for 11 months of the year, the secularists are kind of in control of the radio waves.
But then December, the Christians just dominate, just absolutely dominate the airspace with that Christian Christmas music.
And you're sure there's lots of secular songs out there, but when you hear Away in a Manger, when you hear Oh Holy Night...
When you hear Little Drummer Boy, when you hear all these ones, I mean, it's...
Come on!
That hits you in your heart, and you feel Silent Night.
Actually, one thing...
And you just got singing along.
One Christmas tradition for me that I always have is that...
So my birthday is 10 days before Christmas.
And my mom always told me the story that, so here she was, you know, with a baby just 10 days before Christmas, 23 years old.
And she, you know, I was, um, I guess, you know, they're in the hospital there in Pennsylvania and That I was just crying, baby crying, and that she started singing the first song she could think of that she sang Silent Night to me, and that she would sing that every night to me even before she brought me home.
And so for me, whenever I hear Silent Night, it always makes me think of my mom, and it always makes me think of that story and just how...
How special that is and how that sort of became a Christmas tradition for me personally, in addition to, you know, all the other longstanding Christmas traditions.
That's very beautiful.
I do have a story of my own.
And now here we are where, and I guess people don't know, but, you know, here we are that we had our second son, AJ, was born on December 3rd.
So I have two December birthdays plus Christmas.
Very lucky girl.
So my Christmas story with our little boy is I remember coming home from the hospital without AJ, our youngest son, and the first thing you went and did you got a Christmas tree and you did a great job with putting up all the lights and You wanted us to feel like suddenly the anticipation is over and the actual celebration could begin.
And the first few weeks, anybody who is a new mom will know they're the toughest.
And one of my favorite things to do was when my little boy would make me up in the middle of the night, 2, 3 a.m., sometimes multiple times a day, I would just turn on all the lights.
On the Christmas tree and I would watch all the blinking and one of the traditions that we have, we always put an angel on top of our Christmas tree.
As is necessary and proper.
So I would sit there in the middle of the night with my little boy with the Christmas lights on the tree and the angel.
And that just a story I hope I will tell our little boy one day.
When he's a little older to remember that, that every night.
And I remember, well, the reason I know is because I would wake up in the morning and then I'd go to your Instagram stories.
And I would see because you would always put the time that you were up.
Here he is at 4 a.m.
Here he is at 5 a.m.
It's 3 a.m.
It's 2 a.m.
And that's like your little way of letting me know, just so you know, because I'm I'm a pretty good sleeper.
Yes, you are.
I know, right?
That's because I sleep on MyPillow.
With the delightful MyPillows of MyPillow.com promo code POSO. Got it in.
Told you I was going to get it in.
But...
But that being said, I've noticed though at times, like I might be up working or something, and when I say working, I mean like trolling Twitter or whatever.
I've noticed that he can make like, and even with Jack-Jack, with our older son, it was the same way.
They can make the tiniest squeak.
And you're immediately up, right?
And it's like, and I'll turn over and look and say, wait a minute.
Like, that was enough to wake you up.
That was not me as a teenager or even an adult.
I was always such a sound sleeper.
Because you're usually a sound sleeper.
I kid you not.
You could have a party in the room next door and I would be a sound asleep, not a worry in the world.
It changed the day.
Oh, you weren't at the party?
You were there sleeping during the party?
Is that what it was?
We're not talking about that.
We're going to the Christmas tradition.
Whoa!
Whoa!
So...
That changed the minute I had our first son.
I kid you not, he would turn and I would be wide awake.
Like he'd turn just over in the bed.
He would just turn over in the bed and it just it amazed me because I remember when I was still carrying him thinking I was like how am I gonna hear him cry or how am I gonna know that he needs something?
Oh I knew.
And what did that feel like?
Because I've seen you...
I didn't think we were going to talk about this, but okay.
Because I've noticed, though, that when one of the boys is crying or upset or something, for me, it's like...
Okay, there's something I got to deal with.
There's a problem.
Does he need to be cleaned?
Does he need to be fed?
Is he tired?
What is it?
But I don't have this kind of emotional, spiritual kind of resonance with that.
To me, it's just, okay, there's a problem.
We got to solve it, right?
But with you, it's different, isn't it?
I had no idea until I had them and just to give you a little perspective the bond was building for nine months that I was carrying both of our boys so I guess that's something that on a much deeper level happens between a mother and a child In some sense it probably has a survival aspect to it because that's how that bond and
that connection helps the little baby make it through in this world.
And the mom is the vessel that the baby uses to make it through.
But I had no idea.
I did not know and then suddenly this huge connection, it took my baby to make one squeaky sound or a little cry and I would be a mama bear the second that happened.
No, I mean, there's this deep, emotional, spiritual, biological, physical, physiological, and metaphysical connection that, you know, between them, and everybody knows that, right?
You kind of intuitively know, okay, the mother and child have a specific connection, but when you see it, and for you, it's when you're experiencing it, it's just triggering and kicking off all of these things that you've always had inside you.
But now they're activated, right?
Now it's switched on.
You realize, oh, wait, this is like this deep, deep programming that you always had, but now is suddenly because it needs to be used, that it's kicked on.
So how am I going to wake up?
Oh, guess what?
You're going to be up, right?
You're going to be up immediately.
And it's so amazing.
And I think it's such a blessing.
But God has like, and he says this in the Bible, I will design them man and woman.
And this is something that just me as a guy looking at this, I know I don't have that.
Like if you wake me up and say, Hey, can you take care of him or something?
You know, that's one thing, but I'm not, I don't have that sort of trigger mechanism, that alarm mechanism, that deep spiritual condition and talking, you know, going back to Christmas.
That is Christmas, right?
It all started with a mother and her child, a mother saying yes to the most impossible question any woman's ever been asked in history.
And saying yes without reservation.
Yes, I will do this.
And yes, I will be the vessel for this.
And my son will grow and he will do amazing things.
And, you know, a teenager, right?
A young teenage mother to say, I'm going to do this and I'm going to raise my son.
And I think, you know, looking at Christmas and, I mean, I love, right, all the celebration of Christmas.
I love it.
But you always have to go back, and we were just at the Christmas show at Dream City Church in Phoenix, and they had, you know, this amazing show that we saw, but I loved the end of it and at the celebration, and it said Christmas.
For God so loved the world that He sent His Son not to condemn the world, but to save it.
Right?
And this is the key, right?
Is that Christ comes as the Savior of the world.
Because we know, God understands, that the world is going to be the way it is.
The world has human nature in it.
The world has challenges in it.
It has suffering.
It has sin in it.
Right.
But this is the way out.
That you have now been sent, the savior, the king, the king of all kings, the king of the entire universe, And brought in not, you know, descending from a giant golden staircase with flowing robes and armies behind, you know.
But they do say, and of course brought in a manger in the most humble of beginnings that anyone's ever had or could possibly have.
And, you know, to me, when I think of the meaning of Christmas, it's hope, right?
It's hope that...
You live your life this way, you follow Him, you read the teachings of that King, you read the teachings of that Lord, and it's a guideline that He gave us.
And the entire Bible, of course, is a guideline that we've been given.
You know, to live your life.
And this is the entire point of Christmas, the entire point of why we celebrate, why we go through the motions every year.
And even going through those motions gives you the same type of hope and the same type of joy.
And it's amazing that we have that.
But it also is a tradition that, like you said, it was handed down from your parents.
It was handed down to me from my parents.
We still have some of the old VHS videos of my dad and my mom and me and pushing me around in a little wagon in front of our tree in Norristown, Pennsylvania and giving me a little fire truck and everything and seeing how I was.
And my dad, it's very early on this, but he was always filming whenever we were around doing family stuff.
He had the camcorder going or he put it up on the tripod and I love having those.
I could sit and watch those forever.
I was always so jealous because My family did not really have the means to do that, but I remember...
Well, Soviet Union didn't really have VHS and VHRs and everything.
But then looking at all your childhood albums and seeing all the videos, it was so precious.
Not to get incredibly political, but because...
You know, we talk about, you know, politics and communism and freedom, et cetera, et cetera, but, you know, humanize it, right?
Humanize it.
This is a great point, too.
We have to point it out.
How many photos do you have of yourself as a child?
I can count them pretty much on the 10 fingers of my hands.
You have about 10 photos?
About, yes.
When I grew older, obviously the pictures got more, but from birth until about age 10, definitely under 10 pictures.
So like one a year?
And now how many pictures are our kids going to have?
Let's not talk about that.
Let's say my iPhone crashed a couple of times because of the number of pictures.
Her iPhone is literally crashing because all it is is full of pictures of the kids.
So guilty.
So you're making up for lost time.
So guilty.
You're making up for lost time.
No, no, that's good.
And it's what we should have.
So, you know, let's talk Christmas traditions.
What are some of your favorite things to do in December?
Because I remember you sent me something, I think on Thanksgiving, right?
Is when you sent it to me?
Yes, I did.
And you said it was a December to-do list.
Is that right?
That's correct.
So what was on your December?
And she never does this, by the way.
You know, they call them like the honey-do lists.
And this is a Christmas, well, a December to-do list of all Christmas traditions.
And you said, we're going to do every single one of them.
And so what was on the list?
So it was a very good collection of the main points of the celebration of Christmas, so I thought.
And I really wanted to show our boys this Beautiful season of celebrating Jesus Christ and doing all the fun family activities together.
So what were some of your favorite ones?
Some of the things on it was, there was a donated toy.
Donated toy, yeah.
It had a nativity scene.
Oh, wait, we have to tell the thing with Jack-Jack in the nativity scene because he got so upset.
We have a very beautiful nativity scene that we got from your parents.
It was actually my grandmother's.
Oh, your grandmother's.
Yeah, it was hers, then she gave it to them, then they gave it to us, yeah.
That's very beautiful.
So we had it all set up as we were decorating the house, got the tree together, and then we finally put out the nativity scene with Joseph, Mary, we got the sheep, we got the donkey, and then Jack-Jack runs to us almost in tears and he goes, Mama, there's no Jesus!
Mama, where's baby Jesus?
Where, where?
So we took our time and explained to him that Jesus's birthday will be on December 25th and Jesus is not here yet, which still made him very upset.
He was a little perplexed about that.
With a three-year-old.
Three-nager.
A three-nager, yeah.
It's quite impossible.
He doesn't have a good time conception yet.
So when I was saying that, no, he's not here, but he's coming.
And he's like, is he coming now?
Is he coming soon?
Is he coming here?
Well, yeah.
When is he coming?
Of course, he is coming.
But no, he needs to be now.
Because we actually have the...
And I know I do the ad all the time with the Bible pillows.
But he actually does have...
He does.
The nativity scene Bible pillow.
And so one thing that we do before every night, what does he say every night before bed?
He's looking for his pillow.
And then we always say our Father.
But I mean about the pillow.
Oh, he goes, there's Jesus.
I'm sorry, he says, there's Joseph, Mary, baby Jesus, and sheep.
And sheep.
Good night, Joseph.
Good night, Mary.
Good night, baby Jesus.
Good night, sheep.
And so for him, I think, you know, missing that integral part, obviously the integral part of the Holy Family, baby Jesus was not, he was pretty upset with that.
But I think...
So we got the Christmas tree.
We put it up.
And what was one of the reasons?
Because, man, you were like, I remember it was right around Thanksgiving.
I'm still on the list.
And you said, well, we still have some December left, so it counts.
But you said, I want that tree up as soon as possible.
And I said, ah, we'll go there on my birthday.
We'll go later, 15th, a little closer to Christmas.
You were like, no.
Part of the reasons I told you that about my special story with AJ, that to me the Christmas tree is associated with the joy and the celebration of Jesus and the whole Christmas spirit.
So I wanted it to start as soon as possible.
I didn't want to wait anymore.
Well, I think, no, and that does make sense.
So AJ's birthday is now, it's December 3rd.
So I think that going forward, one, and I guess it officially started last year, and this is the way traditions start, right?
Traditions start, you know, organically, and things happen in a certain way, and then you decide to repeat them because you liked it.
And so this year, I remember you saying that to me, and I've You know, totally blew right past it, right?
Because I'm like, oh, and are we going to be around?
Where am I speaking this weekend?
Am I in Nashville?
Am I in Denver?
I'm in LA or whatever.
And you're like, I want a tree.
And you said to me, you said, I want the tree up because I want the tree up before AJ's birthday.
And so I said that the next...
Tradition that the Poso family, the Posobic family, is going to have is that every year the tree will be up by AJ's birthday.
And tell everybody from, you know, in my defense, in my defense, but to my credit, what did we, because we were at church when you said that to me, and then what was the very first thing that I did after you said that?
We left the church and we drove right to the Christmas market and we picked up a Christmas tree.
Boom!
You see that, young kings out there?
That's how it's done.
When your woman says she wants something and it's reasonable, right?
Now, this is key.
This is key because a lot of people out there will say, you hear this phrase, happy wife, happy life.
I reject it.
I reject it completely.
How so?
Because happy wife, happy life, a lot of guys will hear that and they think that means say yes to everything.
It's total appeasement.
You can't negotiate.
There's no back and forth.
You got to have the back and forth.
You're not going to have a healthy relationship.
And guys, I'm telling you, every once in a while, you got to say, eh, not right now.
Eh, that's not going to work.
But when you do have the occasion to be able to say yes...
Do so and do so swiftly and quickly.
And she will be so happy that you did all that.
That you'll have money in the bank.
And you'll be very happy.
And then when you're doing a podcast on Christmas with her, you can remind her that you did that.
And then you can record it and have Turning Point USA put it out so that everyone in the world can know what a great guy you are.
Even in that instance, he got his way.
No, I mean, look, it was, you know, you're like, I wanted a Christmas tree, and it sounded like you wanted it now, and I think I actually was leaving the next day.
I was doing, I think I was flying somewhere or another, and I said, let's just get it.
Let's just get it then.
We have some time today, and, you know, the Christmas tree market was pretty close, so we just went and picked it up.
Going back to the list, there were some really good ones.
I'm pretty sure everybody with the little kids does it, but one of my favorites was singing Christmas carols, and then ice skating, going ice skating, then obviously a picture of Santa.
You have to do that.
What else?
Oh, baked gingerbread cookies.
Decorate them and make the gingerbread house.
Done.
Done that.
Oh, the ugly Christmas sweater party.
We had to do that.
It's coming up.
I mean, we have worn the ugly sweaters.
We didn't actually go to the party, though.
So I think we could say that one's done.
I think we could say that one's done.
And then baking some marshmallows.
Baking marshmallows.
Oh, yeah.
Got to.
Roasting the fire, you know.
And so it's...
It's simple stuff.
Simple, but what I love about those lists is that you could make it a fun family time.
I don't want my boys growing up thinking that Christmas is just about unwrapping a bunch of presents under the tree, getting all the latest budgets.
That's on the market or the new phone or tablet or whatever else.
There will be maybe some bitcoins by the time he will start understanding all the gifting and stuff.
I want them to remember those special moments together with mom and dad.
Going and doing those fun Christmas activities, looking at the Christmas lights, singing Christmas carols, and then decorating the tree together, talking about what we're grateful for, going to the church and talking about the baby and how he was the reason for the holiday, not just all the gifts and stuff.
And people, I don't know if everybody knows this, we actually did...
Our honeymoon in Israel.
And we went to Bethlehem.
We went to Jerusalem.
We went to the Dead Sea.
We did the whole stations of the cross.
And for me, you know, being able to actually walk.
And we did the Garden of Gethsemane.
Being able to actually, and it's all very close.
It's not actually that big at all.
We went to the room with the Last Supper.
We went to the room with the Last Supper.
We were the only ones.
Yeah, we went so early, so we were the only ones there.
If any of you guys plan to go to Jerusalem, the best thing you could do is...
Which is very easy to do, actually, if you're flying from the United States because you're jet-lagged.
You will be up very early.
Do not try to flip-flop and bat.
Go out.
Catch a tour guide very early.
If it's 5 a.m., go.
You will not regret it.
You will be able to see all the...
Sacred places and all the sacred spots with zero people because the crowds usually get there around 9 or 10.
This is the worst time to go.
Take an early time.
You will love it.
You'll be able to see and experience it without having to rush through it.
We loved it.
And we have that photo.
It's just me and you together standing in the room in the upper room, the upper chamber of the Last Supper all by ourselves.
And I never thought I would have something like that.
And so to have that opportunity to actually walk in the footsteps of Christ, in the footsteps of our Lord, you know, go to the Mount of Olives.
We picked up a couple of olive needles.
You know, it was...
I mean, it was something that I remember, you know, going to church when I was little and my parents taking me and I was always looking at the stations of the cross and the beautiful stained glass windows and hearing this story and the greatest story ever told.
And I said, man, I'd love to actually go there, right?
Because, and that's always been something in our relationship that, and somebody actually just asked me the other day at Turning Point, they were like, they were like, oh, does Tanya like to travel or, you know, does your travel schedule, is that like bother her or something?
And I was like, does it bother her?
I love it!
She loves it!
Like, she loves traveling more than I do, I think.
I'm a very easy to travel with partner, I believe.
I don't need a huge advance.
There were times that Jack would tell me about the event or trip a few hours before it was about to happen and I'm very easy on the fly, very quick to get ready and And that's actually true.
I'll totally give you credit on that.
That's totally true.
Like you are not one of those girls who spends like an hour getting ready and packing and you're just like boom, boom, boom, done.
Eve...
If I am offered a wonderful experience with you, just going to a new place or even to the place where we've been but having a chance to spend it together, it doesn't matter to me if I have all the makeup on or if I'm just wearing my hoodie.
As long as we're together, having to experience it all, it's the best moments.
So we're getting towards the end of this, and, you know, it is Christmas, and I do want to say Merry Christmas again to everybody out there.
Is that the moment where I give you my Christmas wish list?
And thank you.
No, no, I've had that before.
Don't worry, don't worry.
I've had that a long, long time before.
But, you know, I think that what I wanted to end it on was...
If they ever listen to this again, our boys, you know, sometime a long time from now in the future, especially AJ when he's a little bit older.
I mean, he's not even talking yet.
And Jack-Jack, you know, he's a little bit too young.
By the way, for the record, Jack-Jack, if you are listening to this new years later, we wanted to have you on, but somebody wanted to play with Mama's phone.
And so it didn't work out.
But what, um, what message would you have for our boys at Christmas time?
As a mom, I want them to be very happy in life and treasure the moments together and appreciate all the family traditions.
And as they grow older, as they become teenagers, and they will want to spend less and less time together, I hope they will look back To their childhood and be happy about all the memories that we've tried to create for them and maybe stop by and surprise us as the best Christmas present for both of us, I think.
And I want them to think of Christmas time, to circle back on it as the period of hope and faith and family.
I always want them to hold on to those three things in their life the most.
This is who we are.
This is who our families have always been.
This is our tradition.
This is the way of our people.
And if you don't continue those traditions, if you don't pass them on, then they could be gone in one generation.
So that's why I think it's so important to always do that.
But now, for the final question, what do you think I got you?
No idea.
I honestly have no idea at all.
What would you want me to get you that you think I don't know about?
You see, you put me right on the spot.
I never even thought of it.
I feel like I've already got this wonderful gift of being here with you for 10 days in Arizona, just watching our kids have fun in the desert, playing with all the cacti and running around the zoo.
This is the best gift.
Is there more?
All right, boys.
So a lot of those gifts, we can give a lot of that stuff back, guys.
We can give a lot of returns.
Oops, I think I understand.
You know, and for the record, by the way, for the record, right, who was it that I always say this, who was it, because I don't usually have you on, who was it that went to our bed and said, we're getting rid of all these pillows and we're replacing them with my pillows?
Who said that?
This girl, right here.
And why did you say that?
Which girl would not want to get rid of all the old pillows and put on all the new ones that are so great?
And yeah.
People always think that I'm putting them on when I say that.
No!
The moment I heard that we could get new pillows, I was like, okay, done.
And I sent you the picture.
But do you actually sleep on MyPillows every night, yes or no?
I do, every night.
How do you like the MyPillows every night?
I love them.
I do.
And it's like a firmer, because you like a firmer pillow.
I do.
What about the topper?
I love the topper.
It's very soft.
And for a little girl, I love sleeping on the elevated bed.
This is the princess and the pea over here, by the way, folks, just so you know.
And when it comes to the sheets, what do you think of our Giza Dream Sheets?
What do I think?
I already got gifts and sheets to all of my girlfriends as Christmas gifts.
You already got- oh no!
Yes, well by now they've already opened the gifts, so there!
Oh boy, oh boy.
Well, there's a couple more, but we are pretty much out of time.
We run here.
So, from all of us, to all of you, all of the Pozo family, to everybody out there, I hope that you're having a very Merry Christmas.
You know, we wanted to keep this just talking about tradition, just talking about what it was like growing up, the kind of Christmases we had.
You know, one thing I always said, by the way, that we always did on Christmas was that we always went And we could never play with our toys, right, when we play with them, because it was either off to church, or it was off to the family, the next family's house, or over to see our friends, and then you'd see, hey, what'd you get, what'd you get, what'd you get?
And then it was always the next day that you would actually get to play with their open everything, because the first day was always full of family stuff.
And so I hope that as you guys are listening to this, you are on your way to family, and if you're not, Pick up your phone, call someone in your family that you haven't talked to in a while, and wish them Merry Christmas.
Any final messages?
Hope you guys are enjoying this time with family.
Slow down on all the unwrapping.
Look around your family and say a blessing.
Be grateful for all the loved ones in your life.
Those are the most precious gifts that you could ever get.
Hold on to them a little tighter.
I know the most precious gift that I ever got.
100%.
Aww.
And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, you have our permission...
To lay a shore.
Oh!
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