CONTACT US: Email: paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter: @paranaughtica Facebook: The Paranaughtica PodcastContact Cricket: Website: www.theindividuale.com Twitter: @Individualethe Hello, and welcome....Today we will be diving DEEP into the fetish that is “Bug Chasing”. No, not ‘chasing after some random beetle’ or ‘trying to catch some random bot fly happily living in the neighborhoods stray dogs’ paw’....no, not that kind of ‘bug chasing’.We are astrogliding ourselves into the world of “Bug Chasing” and “Gift Givers”....that is, trying to get infected with HIV/AIDS, or giving the “gift” of the disease/virus to others who are actively ‘chasing’ it.....or, in some cases, giving it to people who are totally unaware. So, strap up that velcrow, because this is a ‘bumpy’ ride. https://www.paypal.biz/paranaughticapodcast ***If you’d like to help out with a donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on my page and you’ll see a button to help me out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation. You can also go to the Facebook page where I have a link to Ko-Fi and Pay-Pal if you'd like to help out the show. I would greatly appreciate it! PayPal Link right here:https://www.paypal.biz/paranaughticapodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This is episode 143, and we will be discussing the enigma of bug chasing.
Yes.
Chasing them bugs.
But before we get to that, let's just uh just look at some news here.
Greta Thunberg, alright.
Yeah, we all know him.
Uh so apparently he he uh was taken in by the IDF or something.
I don't know.
This is from the Jerusalem Post.
Quote, they dragged little Greta Thunberg by her hair before our eyes, beat her and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag.
They did everything imaginable to her as a warning to others.
End quote.
Says Turkish activist Ursinselic, a participant in the Samood flotilla that old Gereta Thunberg is part of.
Um yeah.
What a fucking disgrace.
What a shame.
So sad to hear that our little Greta Thunberg is being abused by the idea.
Some are saddened by this, others are happy.
Um whatever it may be.
It is what it is.
All I can say is keep her, please.
Keep her there.
Do not let her come back.
Do not let her come back to the United States.
We don't want her.
We do not want her here.
And so what are people doing?
What are these activists doing to support her?
They're cutting off their hair.
Wow.
Unfucking believable.
Everybody just praises this little shit bag, and it's like why?
Greta Thunberg.
Who the fuck cares?
So to the IDF, please keep her.
Others are saying she's kept in a um you know, isolated in a room with bed bug ridden mattress, being attacked and eaten alive by insects.
I just I don't care.
I don't care about Greta Thunberg.
She's one of the most annoying people that I've ever walked this earth.
What else do we have?
Oh, so ladies and gentlemen, I got the call from old Netanyahu himself.
I got the call, guys.
He said, listen, Goy, you listen here.
You better start being more respectful.
Being more of a propaganda machine for Israel, because we'll pay you $7,000 per post if you just say everything is great about the IDF.
So I guess I take everything back that I said earlier.
But yeah, Netanyahu called me up.
Like, yo, Goy.
Quit fucking around.
Respect the Sabbath.
Don't eat anything on Sundays.
Let's see.
Uh pretty much everything's fucked.
This whole country is a joke.
It's quickly gone downhill, and everyone can thank you.
Thank Trump.
Because he uh big part of the uh deterioration of the Constitution and this country.
So we can thank him, but it's the people who control him.
Like Israel.
What else we got?
We got um next order, you can go fuck yourself.
Like I'm I'm tired of seeing your shit, dude.
You're just you're a joke.
You're a fucking Trump cuck joke, like the rest of them.
Fucking annoying.
Oh, good news.
InfoWars is gonna be shut down finally.
I mean, how long can the grift go on?
Seriously, it's been like three years, and Alex Jones has just been grifting and shilling his chilogy pills.
Ugh, finally the courts have green lit it to just be shut down.
Which, you know, I used to actually like the show.
Whack back when I was younger.
And he opened the door for a lot of people.
Get into the conspiracy world, you know.
But those days are over.
After the Sandy Hook bullshit.
He uh really traded sides.
He went went to the other side.
He was bought and sold.
Pretty obvious.
Harrison H. Smith, go fuck yourself.
Don't like you.
We don't like you here.
We don't like you.
Go fuck yourself.
Um Katie Johnson was 13 years old when Trump told her to shut up, and then he ripped her panties off and raped her.
That's what Katie Johnson said.
Not me.
What else we got?
Miss Scotland bit two security guards and called one the N-word.
As she was kicked out of the rugby competition.
Sad.
Sad story.
Uh more 5G towers being put up.
Yeah.
Can all thank Trump and all the fucking AI bullshit, Sam Old and Larry Ellison's and all those fucking little bastards.
Fucking assholes.
Baylon Miller, 23-year-old Alaskan mountain climber, died after falling from El Capitan in Yosemite National Park while performing a solo climb, which was recorded on live stream.
A live stream camera.
Oh shh.
Yeah, he fell.
He fell.
It's unfortunate.
But I mean, you play with the bull.
Might get the horn.
What else we got?
The dinosaur myth.
Don't look away.
Trump end up scene or sex traffickers.
Yes, they are.
Yes, they are.
Timpool.
Go fuck yourself.
What else we got?
What else we got?
Police have launched an investigation after South Carolina judge Diane Goodstein.
Good Stein's Adisto Beach home burned to the ground after an apparent explosion.
Good Stein's husband, former state senator, Arnold Goldstein.
Was Restrial Hospital along with other family members?
She happened to be walking the beach when the fire started.
Sounds like she tried to kill her husband.
House is definitely on fire.
Trump administration defund Israel during shutdown, but delay pay for US military.
Do you see the pattern with this, ladies and gentlemen?
Do you see the pattern with Trump?
Like, I don't know how many times you have to be bitch slapped until you realize you're being bitch slapped.
It's astounding to me.
Very astounding.
And by the way, I'm I think I'm getting sick.
I think I'm getting the flu or something.
Not feeling the best today.
Oh, and Cricket's not with me.
Um I think we're doing a new format with the show.
Doing something new here.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna present random stories and talk the shit that I usually talk because what else do I have to do?
New yoga pose called the American Taxpayer.
It's almost like the downward dog ass down ass up.
The American taxpayer.
Very uncomfortable.
Does not look comfortable.
What else we got?
What else we got here?
China unveiled the world's largest bridge.
Twenty six hundred feet above a river below, and it's got like a restaurant, one of the little towers there.
That's a big ass bridge.
Got like water fountains to make it look like it's raining.
Like I don't know, it's crazy.
It's a crazy ridge.
But uh United States cannot fix the Francis Key Scott Bridge.
Can't fix it.
Won't be fixed for years, but you see these other countries that are building these magnificent structures in a matter of weeks, months.
And America just can't fix the bridge.
Sweet.
So made an AI video of uh who the fuck was that dude in a wheelchair?
This is too much.
This is too much.
Oh my god.
Stephen Hawking, yeah, okay.
Stephen Hawking.
Someone's making all these AI Videos of Stephen Hawking.
So this first one is dropping in on a big ass half half pipe with X games.
He does a backflip, double backflip, crashes eats shit.
This other one he's racing in some NASCAR.
Oh, this is next one.
These are two good battle bots.
He's a battle bot.
Stephen Hoggy.
Fucking battle bot.
Oh, that's fantastic.
What's this next one?
Holy shit.
Oh, sweet Stephen Hawking's fighting in the UFC.
Spinned a guy down with his feet.
This is too good.
Fuck yeah, Stephen Hawking's Pro Skater 2.
This is amazing.
This is just fantastic.
I finally got something to laugh about.
That is hilarious.
And on that note.
It's uh let's get to the story, I guess.
Uh before we get to the story, fuck Trump.
Okay, here we go.
Let's get to the story at hand here.
Now, a lot of you may not have ever have heard of this.
Some of you probably have.
Bug chasing.
Alright.
Yeah, bug chasing.
Get out there, list some rocks, lift some old boards, look at what's under you, find some bugs, you chase them.
No, that's not what we're talking about today.
We're talking about when people chase diseases.
Um viruses, I should say.
Uh it's pretty fucked up.
Basically, you're chasing HIV.
Alright, these are people.
Uh mostly men, I assume, in the gay scene, who uh basically are like, well, I'm gonna get it anyway, so I might as well just go get it now, and they go finding it.
They go look for it.
It's pretty fucked up.
So let's jump into this.
Penis first.
So when you look up this, this webpage, I don't know if it's still active.
I think I had to use a way back machine, but it's called so suave.net.
It's a form threads, most disturbing thing ever, bug chasers 68768.
So if you go to the website, if you can find it, um the first thing you see is a banner thing, and it says, Hello, friend.
If this is your first visit to So Suave, I would advise you to start here.
It will be the most efficient use of your time, and you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.
Thank you for visiting and have a great day.
Interesting.
Uh so yeah.
So what what is it?
What what is this we're talking about?
This bug chasing.
Let's let's get into this.
It's a brief look.
Alright, this is from psychology today.com from 2014.
Despite being fairly well read on sexually extreme behavior, it wasn't until relatively recently that I came across the terms bug chasing and pausing.
Both of these slang terms refer to the practice of people, usually gay or bisexual men, deliberately engaging in unprotected or bareback sex with men who are known to be HIV positive in an attempt to contract the HIV virus, the bug themselves, hence the name pausing, deriving from the word positive.
This is so fucked.
Now, this has led to knowing recipients of bug chasers being called gift givers.
Alright.
Now that's those who allow sexual partners to contract the HIV virus.
Despite some people believing the practice to be a complete myth, empirical research does indeed confirm the existence of the practice.
And there's even a short 2012 film on the topic called Bug Chaser.
However, there is a clear distinction concerning intent between those who don't want to engage in protective sex because they prefer penetrative sex and or prefer sex without condoms, the so-called bear backers, and those who don't want to engage in unprotected sex in order to contract a life-threatening sexually transmitted disease, so-called bug chasers.
I'm all about bear backing with a you know heterosexual manwoman.
Condoms suck, man.
Now, the consequence of this is a clear distinction that means that all bug chasers are bear backers, but not all bear backers are bug chasers, alright?
You gotta get that one set in the fucking brain sack there.
Now research has been carried out suggesting various reasons for why men would want to deliberately contract HIV.
In a 2004 paper in the British Journal of Social Psychology, Dr. Michelle Crosley says some men indicate that the practice is highly exciting because it is such a highly risky behavior in that they could ultimately die from contracting the virus.
However, such a reason suggests that such individuals don't actually want to contract HIV and seem psychologically akin to plain Russian web.
The same paper also noted that some bug chasers appear to be very lonely people who want to contract AIDS so that they will receive the attention, the nurturance and care that they feel they need, and therefore share similarities with those who have Munchausen syndrome.
Similarly, others see the contracting of HIV as a way of becoming part of a community that elicits public sympathy and caretaking.
Writing in the Journal of Gay and Lesbian Psychotherapy.
Yeah, it's a real paper.
A paper by Dr. Mark Blechner in 2002 examined the psychodynamics of bearbacking and safer sex.
Dr. Blackner Bleichner argued that the beginning of the AIDS epidemic in early 1980s, gay men had personal experience of multiple deaths and were terrified by a new mysterious and untreatable disease.
But look at Magic Johnson.
He was like the poster child of HIV.
And uh he's still alive.
That's weird, huh?
Probably because he never had it.
He was just faking it.
This was contrasted with today's gay men who were much less afraid of contracting HIV and considered condom use as more restrictive, less intimate, and less pleasurable than older gay men.
Now there's nothing like a lemon party.
Or less restrictive, more restrictive.
Less intimate, more intimate.
Now, does a condom make it less intimate?
Definitely more restrictive, I can say that.
There also appears to be a small minority of gay men who are so anxious and overwhelmed about the thought of contracting HIV that actually contracting it would help overcome the negative psychological states that they experience.
It's better with it than without it.
A gift that keeps on giving.
In 2007, Dr. David Moskowitz and his colleagues carried out a study published in the journal Sexual Addiction and Compulsivity.
They compared 284 bug chasers and bearbackers.
Now remember, not all bear backers are bug chasers, and not all bug chasers are bear backers.
You gotta get that straight.
Their results showed that bug chasers were considerably different from bearbackers regarding paraphilic activities.
For instance, bug chasers were far more likely to engage in sexually sodomasochistic activities, and significantly more likely than bearbackers to rank higher on behavioral and psychological measures of sexual addiction.
Interesting.
Very interesting.
Now I'm gonna click on this paraphilic activities.
I just want to see what they have listed for paraphilic activities.
See what it's all about here.
Gotta open this up.
Dr. Mark Griffiths, just another WordPress.com site.
Okay, let's see what we got here.
Um German psychiatrist Richard Von Kraft Ebbing is usually credited with first identifying paraphilias in his 1886 book psychopathia sexualisual psychopathy.
Too many people appear bizarre, socially unacceptable.
They are typically accompanied by intense sexual arousal to unconventional and non-sexual stimuli.
In some cases, the behavior may only occur sporadically, whereas for others it may be compulsive and or addictive.
I wanna s I want to see what it's all about.
What do you got going on here?
Sorry, I'm just gonna have to breeze through this lengthy article to find out what the paraphilic activities are that they they're talking about here.
Someone to know like the weird shit, the weird shit people are gonna do, like what pedophilia, voyeurism, exhibitionism.
Not really talking about any paraphilic activities.
DSMR.
The element of coercion is another key distinguishing characteristic characteristic of paraphilias.
Some paraphiliaus like sadism, masochism, fetishism, hypoxophilia, urophilia, coprophilia, clismophilia.
I'm really interested in learning all these new things.
Clismophilia from the Greek words enema and to lose or flood.
What?
Okay.
This looks great.
The term clismophilia was coined in 1973 by Juan Denko.
Anima as a sexual preference.
Really?
Animus.
An enema fetish may include the sexual attraction to the equipment, the processes, the environments, the situations or scenarios, and some may be sexually aroused by the preparations, such as by the feel and smell of a latex rubber or plastic syringe, by the smell of soap suds anima solution, or by preparing the recipient.
Man, people are weird.
People are fing weird.
Interesting.
Learn something new every day.
Uh so what else?
For instance, a male might prefer whenever possible to wear women's high heeled shoes and fishness stockings during sex.
Alright.
Well, I've read enough about that.
Let's get back into the article at hand here.
The Wikipedia entry on bug chasing also provides further reasons for wanting to contract HIV.
Quote The behavior may stem from a resistance to dominant heterosexual norms and more due to a defensive response by gay men to repudiate stigmatization and rejection by society.
Some people consider bug chasing intensely erotic, and the act of being infected as the ultimate taboo, the most extreme sex act left.
A number of people who are HIV negative and in a relationship with someone who is HIV positive seek infection as a way to remain in the relationship, particularly when the HIV positive partner may wish to break up to avoid infecting the HIV negative partner.
Some contend that this behavior stems from feelings of inevitability towards HIV among the gay community and the empowerment of choosing when to contract the virus.
Yeah.
You heard it here first, folks.
In 1999, Dr. Dianne Gothier and Dr. Craig Forsythe published a paper on bareback subculture in the journal Deviant Behavior and noted in their interviews with gay men that a few of their participants wanted to contract the HIV virus.
In previous blogs that I have written about this is not me, this is this article.
How the internet has facilitated the meeting of like-minded people, such as people who are cannibals meeting up with people wanting to be eaten.
A paper by Dr. Richard Tukesberry, also published in the journal Deviant Behavior, entitled Bareback Sex and the Quest for HIV Assessing the Relationship in Internet Personal Advertisements of Men Who Have Sex with Men.
White the title.
This was arguably the first academic paper to find empirical evidence that bug chasers had moved with the times and were looking for gift givers online.
Well one of the best and most interesting papers published on bug chasers and gift givers was published a few years ago in an issue of the journal AIDS Education and Prevention by Dr. Christian Grove and Dr. Jeffrey Parsons.
Their research examined the online profiles of over a thousand bug chasers and gift givers.
Approximately 1,228, and classified such people into one of six types.
These are comprised of one committed bug chasers, which are 7.5% of the total sample.
This type comprised men who were HIV negative but actively seeking HIV positive partners.
Two, opportunistic bug chasers, this made up twelve point one percent.
This type comprised men who were HIV negative but were not bothered by the HIV status of their prospective partner.
I just can't wrap my mind around this, like how you wouldn't care.
It's just so weird.
So weird to me.
Number three.
Committed gift givers.
This makes up.4%.
This type comprised men who were HIV positive and sought HIV negative partners.
See that's so weird, man.
Like you get off on that, like Oh, I'm gonna fucking give uh give this guy some AIDS.
Yeah.
You just cream in your pants, like wow.
Uh well, four or four here.
Opportunistic opportunistic gift givers.
Okay, this makes up twenty six percent.
This type comprised men who were HIV positive but were not bothered about the HIV status of their prospective partner.
And uh five here is this orders.
What the fuck is a serosorder?
This type comprised men whose description of being a bug chaser or gift giver did not match their intentions and were seeking partners of equal HIV status.
Okay, that's a little better.
For instance, some HIV positive men, eight point five percent, sought other HIV positive men, whereas some HIV negative men, twelve point five percent, sought other HIV negative men.
See that makes more sense.
Like, alright, you already have it, I already have it, cool, let's do this.
Oh, you don't have it?
I don't either.
Got my fingers crossed.
Uh the sixth one here, ambiguous bug chasers or gift givers.
The ambiguous ones, alright?
This makes up sixteen point three percent.
This type comprised men who did not know their HIV status.
Therefore, it was not determined whether these men were bug chasers or gift givers.
The ambiguous ones.
So it's ambiguous ones you gotta look out for, right?
Clearly, the evidence shows that bug chasing is far from being a myth and is engaged in by a small minority of the gay and bisexual community.
For some, the research seems to echo one of the most wonderful lines from the song Frankly Mr Shankly by one of my favorite groups, the Smiths.
And again, this is not me.
This is this article.
I'm sure Morrissey didn't have bug chasing in mind when he sang the lyrics I want to live and I want to love, I want to catch something that I might be ashamed of, but it does seem applicable.
And then there's a forum.
Should we go to the forum?
Let's go to this forum really quick.
Let's see what this forum's about.
Definitely a forum.
Welcome to the pause community forums, around the clock discussion area for people with HIV and AIDS or their friends, family caregivers, and others concerned about HIV and AIDS.
Not much here in this forum, it's just a forum.
If anyone wants to go to it, it's forums.pause POZ.com.
Forums dot pause.com.
I don't see anything that's too interesting here, plus you know I'm not trying to look too much here because I'm trying to get this episode recorded.
Uh let's go to this next article.
Do some people really want to get HIV?
I spoke to bug chasers around the world to find out by Jamie Garcia Iglesias.
And this is from 2018.
He is a PhD candidate in sociology from the University of Manchester.
So he says why would anybody want to get infected with HIV?
That is what most people ask when they first hear about bug chasing.
In fact, a number of gay men, at least online, appear to clamor for HIV.
They are known as bug chasers because they literally chase a bug.
HIV.
But do they really want it?
To answer this question, I interviewed men in the UK, the US, France, and Australia.
And while they all consider themselves to be bug chasers, their experiences were very different.
One sixty-nine year old man spent his life working for an HIV charity.
Another, younger participant, works as a porn performer.
For some, bug chasing plays a secondary role within their sexuality.
For others, it is all they can think about.
Some access bug chasing websites to find hookups or masturbate.
Others just spend many hours online engaging with others.
Bug chasers largely fetish the HIV virus.
They come from a variety of backgrounds, generations and countries.
While one of the participants I spoke with has clear memories of the AIDS crisis in the nineteen eighties, another in his early thirties grew up at a time when HIV was no longer a death sentence.
It is also difficult to identify a single experience or motivation for bug chasing.
Luke, the names throughout this article have been changed to protect the interviewee's privacy from Seattle, argues that HIV became a fear that I associated with sex that I liked.
A man from London in his late sixties identifies HIV with the death of his friends in a way that drives him to desire infection, even if he is not sure why.
And yet another argues that, as a gay man, HIV had to be part of me, and not having it meant I was not yet complete.
Hmm.
Everyone is different.
Given that bug chasers communicate through the internet, researchers have focused on analyzing bug chasing websites, establishing that bug chasers are a minority turning to the internet to find sexual partners.
Guile, a thirty three year old man from California who maintains a semi professional online presence as a porn performer, argues that the perceived anonymity that many sites foster creates an environment where bug chasers can role play whatever they want to be.
When you're online, you have other people who are trying to push their mutual barriers.
This reveals how anonymity and mutual encouragement on these sites can create an environment where users' statements shouldn't always be taken at face value.
They're not necessarily indicators of offline behavior.
Indeed, this is something that most previous researchers have struggled to consider.
Now is it a fact or is it just a fantasy?
Journalist Richard Pendry titled his article on the subject bug chasing fantasy or fact, and it is a legitimate question.
After all, fantasizing about something is very different to pursuing it offline in the real world.
For some, bug chasing is a reality.
Scott, a fifty eight year old bug chaser from Melbourne, says it is very stimulating, sexy and intense.
And Milo, a Frenchman, in his late twenties, stopped taking the old prep, the preexposure prophylaxis prophylaxis to engage in casual anonymous sex.
No bug it.
It was a real turn on not knowing what would happen, he says.
Some of these men do become infected.
Guillo, who chased HIV for several years, eventually became HIV positive in twenty sixteen.
Yay.
Oh that's so good, happy, happy joy joy.
Others, however, are more reticent, and there can be a tension between their fantasies and their actual behaviors.
Man what a I'm trying to be open minded, but god damn, fucking retards, I swear to God.
Mark, a Londoner in his twenties, has become increasingly interested in bug chasing and engages in unprotected sex with HIV positive partners whenever he can.
However, he normally feels remorseful the morning after and uses PEP, the post exposure prophylaxis.
Another participant said he is aroused by the thought of being infected and yet has enrolled on the prep impact trial.
Some people.
Now the use of prep and pep reveals a contradiction between their fantasies And their realities.
They are not entirely fantasists, as they engage in sex with a bug chasing intent, yet they are not entirely realistic about it either, for they take active steps to prevent HIV through prep and pep.
There are also those for whom bug chasing is just a fantasy.
Roy, an older man in the UK, maintains several fictional younger bug chaser profiles online, through which he converses with other men across the world without revealing his real identity.
Cause what more should you be doing with your time?
When asked whether he would like to l live the fictional lives of his characters, he replied, No.
It's not real.
We are mostly entertainment.
I just have a wink at the end of it.
Now, for Roy, bug chasing is purely a fantasy with little potential to become a reality.
In fact, one participant suggested that 70% of all bug chasers online were simply fantasizing about it.
Fucking live it.
Live it, man.
Whether bug chasing is ultimately fantasy or fact is relevant insofar as it allows researchers to determine whether bug chasing is a threat to public health.
Of course it is, obviously it is.
But it also allows us to explore the fantasies of bug chasing beyond its realities.
In so doing, we can better comprehend the desire that fuel bug chasers.
Desires such a as intimacy, connection, and belonging.
And this allows us to place those desires at the center of sexual well-being, helping us to explain what role HIV plays in society today.
And what it means or feels like to be a gay man in the twenty first century.
That's fucking hot.
That's hot.
Fucking nuts, man.
Shit's fucking crazy.
Like I heard about bug chasing many, many years ago and I was just like, you know, whatever.
To each his own.
Big deal.
I don't care.
I just don't care.
And now I'm like, wow, man.
Digging into it, reading about this stuff's like this shit's fucking legit.
It's real.
People have a serious mental health crisis, dude.
Like to think you're a you know, it's one thing to think you're born a male, you think you're a female, you get your dick chopped off, or vice versa, you get your titties flopped off.
That's some serious mental health crisis, for sure.
Like this just takes it to a whole other level, man.
Whole other level.
Fucking crazy man.
You sound insane.
Do you realize that?
You should be medicated.
Now let's look at this dating site.
They have dating sites, right?
Bug chasers and gift givers.
They have dating sites.
So I had to use the way back machine to get to this one.
WWW dot bugchaser personals dot com.
So it says, if you're trying to find this is like the the the fucking front page speech or whatever.
If you're trying to find a good bug chaser personal's website, you're in the right place.
This site is the number one place for everyone who wants to have sex with people who are HIV positive.
Having HIV is not a taboo like it was decades ago.
Now there are treatments and drugs which slow down the disease's progress and allow one to have a normal life.
And love life as well.
Perhaps HIV infected as well, but still want to have an active sexual life.
Or you simply want to feel like living on the edge by having sex with someone who has it.
Living on the edge.
Regardless of your causes and motives, this site offers you a chance to meet other HIV positive people.
Interesting.
Tall, short, young, old.
These people are ordinary, just like you and me, and simply want to have a little fun in life.
I don't want to kink shame, but I am kink shaming.
Forgive me, so dive right into the world of bug chasers and discover that HIV infected people also have a positive view of life and love.
I find that really hard to believe not HIV infected, But bug chasers.
I find it hard to believe that they have a positive view of life and love.
Plus, online dating in this case might save you from embarrassment.
Many people consider the HIV status private, and it's not something that just pops up during conversation.
Something else might pop up.
It will also save you money at spend on dinners, dates, and drinks.
Time is also another good reason to go online.
Instead of nervous preparations and long dates, simply exchange a few messages at any time of any day.
In addition, you'll have a chance of connecting with your HIV partner before the actual date, which will only make it more interesting.
Bug Chaser Personals website will help you to find your soulmate.
Oh, lovey dove dove.
Okay, I'm going to go to this Wayback Machine Bug Chaser Personals website.
Let it load.
between 2012 2016.
It was pretty active.
Um find a bug chaser to hook up with today.
Live life on the edge when you have sex with an HIV positive guy.
After all, if it feels good, do it.
Wow.
Not much here to see.
Paula, 48 cross dresser.
Lacey4U47, 50 year old cross dresser, San Jose.
The Lady Yasmin 23 female Reno.
Sincerely Bossy, 29 female.
Thicky thick 26 23 transsexual from Stockton.
Kabie Cabarbio 22 Transsexual.
Sheena 0167 46 cross dresser.
Crystal A 5?
Sissy Crystal E5?
50 cross dresser.
That's just a few of the uh men or women on this.
Says it's private, but let's see.
Let's get in here.
Let's get in deep in this one.
Yeah.
Who is this again?
I have to sign up.
I don't want to sign up.
Or should I sign up?
Miss Mr. Paula.
Can I go to your your page?
Miss Mr. Paula 48 cross dresser.
Nowps make me register.
It's got a photo.
Can I see the photo?
No, not gonna let me.
It makes I'm gonna have to make a profile.
I don't want to make a profile.
Maybe a different one will work.
Let's go to Kabarby.
No.
Okay, fine.
Let's do make a profile here.
I'll make a profile.
I'll do uh my screen name bear back bob.
Choose a password.
One, two, three, four, five.
QWERT.
Now you guys know my screen name and my password.
Enter your first name.
Bob.
I'm changing my passion because I don't want you guys to fuck around with my shit.
Just in case.
Gotta be safe here.
Email address.
Alright.
You are a male looking for a female with STDs.
Put my zip in, my birth date, I don't know, November 16th, 1996.
Create profile.
I don't even know if it'll work since it's been offline forever.
I don't it didn't do anything.
I have to go check my email now and see if it came through.
Or didn't say like congratulations.
You're well on your way to become HIV positive.
So check my fucking mail here.
Come on, open up.
Spam.
Nope.
Yeah, I don't think it works.
Didn't think it works.
Which is a complete shame.
Complete shame.
But you know, instead, instead, let's just do this.
Let me see here.
So what I can do is I'll just go to like Google.
And then I'll do like bug chasing date website.
Bug chasing and gift giving.
HIV net.
Let's check this one out.
Nope.
I just want a dating site.
Here's Ask Gay Bros over 30 on Reddit.
Bug Chasers.
Bug chasers are guys that want to catch HIV and other STIs.
Have you ever encountered one?
I'm totally freaked out by this kink.
On the other side, there are guys who get off on passing on their HIV to unknowing sexual partners.
There's this guy in Vancouver who has to get police escort to go get his medication shot because he was not taking his meds and infecting guys on purpose.
I hate those people.
Go to hell.
And Charlie in the box says Right now it's more of a fantasy, but before prep when sero-converting seemed inevitable, coupled with the fact that POS guys could get all the steroids they wanted to prevent wasting and got huge.
A lot of guys could easily get convinced to just get it over with and get exposed.
And then namespace James thinks it's just an urban legend, which it's not.
It's very, very real thing.
That is repulsive behavior, and offenders deserve significant jail time.
Lake Blithley says I'm in a guy once who wanted to infect me.
This was back when I was an innocent looking twink, and I was approached by this tatted muscle hunk.
I was admittedly very into his his look, and he was clearly into me.
And then he asked if I barebacked.
I told him I was condom only.
This was before prep, and he tried to convince me to just let him breed me with his pause load so that I wouldn't have to be scared anymore.
Or something to that effect.
Shortest crush ever.
Grouchy Basket responds, Oh my God.
Certain Cause 3362 says, My ex is a chaser.
He finally caught HIV a few years ago.
Now his kink is going to the local glory holes and not using condoms.
He says it gives sex an extra thrill to know he could change someone's life like that.
And they wouldn't know it was him.
Think about that the next time you want to go cruising.
An aggravating walk says, You should report his ass infecting someone while knowing he can is a murder charge in Canada.
And then the OP says kind of hard to do.
People go to glory holes for anon sex.
I don't know when or where he goes, and even if I did, I'm not going to stand outside at one people.
I'm no one's keeper.
Folks want to indulge in risky and protective sex with someone whose face they've never seen.
They accept the risk, and that goes with it.
Yeah, but if you fucking know he's doing it, that's accomplice to attempted murder, dude.
Fuck that person.
Fuck those people.
Oh, here's a guy who is purposely infecting people.
Okay.
There's actually a link.
Vancouver police search for subject of unprecedented HIV medication order.
David Hind, ordered by court to take medication and report to doctors.
Police are searching for a Vancouver man.
Alright, this was what?
2019.
Police are searching for a Vancouver man who is the subject of an unprecedented court order to take medication for HIV.
Last October, David Hind or Hind pleaded guilty to violating BC's Public Health Act, marking the first time BC medical authorities used the courts to force someone into treatment for the virus that causes AIDS.
But he now faces six counts of breaching the terms of that order, and police are asking for the public's help in locating the 35-year-old who has allegedly eluded them for more than a month.
Public health officials have agonized over Hen's case for years, fearful to be seen as criminalizing HIV or contributing to any stigma around the virus.
Come on.
They say they worked with the community care providers to try to force Hind to comply with health orders, only resorting to the courts as a last step.
The guy should be in fucking prison.
Which doesn't make it any better because he can still he's gotta be in solitary confinement.
That's the only place.
It's the only fucking place for this type of person.
CBC reported on the case last year when Hind was charged but did not publish his name because of privacy concerns.
Hmm.
Not cool.
Not cool.
Anyone who's out there intentionally trying to infect other people without their knowledge needs to just be publicly hanged.
Publicly flanked and flayed.
Fed their own skin to them.
Eat it.
Love it.
Oh here's Keith fifty seven NE.
I am registered on a website that enables bug chasing.
I initially joined in twenty thirteen, but due to not fully reading the terms and conditions, I failed to realize that my data is published on the worldwide website.
I reacted badly to this public outing when I realized my dad has open available in search engines, but in time I learned to embrace my bug chasing fantasy fetish.
It was under the radar for years.
But in 2022, 2023, some clever fools thought to go muck raking on my character right now.
I have learned who my real friends are.
For the record, I have only engaged with others online.
It has been a work of make belief.
Hmm.
And Green Gain responds.
Sounds like consequences to your actions.
Being depraved doesn't get you anywhere.
Yes.
And the last medical ninja, which is just posted two months ago on this Reddit post, ask Gabe Bros over thirty.
Who stay at a hotel and post every day Hey, come over and feel Okay, they're their typing is horrible.
I don't think English is their first language.
There's this man in my area who stays at this hotel and post every day, hey, come over and fill me with comloads refused.
I ask are you worried you'll get something?
And he said nope.
I did think about calling the hotel he's staying at and reporting what he's doing, but still haven't done it yet.
That's two months ago.
Maybe he has by now.
Let's see some of the results here.
Bug chasing dating site.
Medium did an article I don't see any actual dating site.
Research The Bug Chaser Who Changed His Mind.
I can't find a website, but my famous disease is Marksking dot com.
The HIV bug chaser who changed his mind posted in 2020.
The gay men online who get off on seeking HIV infection aren't exactly known for their thoughtful introspection.
After all, they are eroticizing something that works exactly once and has lifelong consequences.
So a tweet posted a few weeks ago from a self-titled bug chaser stunned me with this honesty and vulnerability.
The Twitter account name is Bug Chaser, with a profile that describes him as an AIDS warshipper and death dick glorifier.
His feed is definitely not for the squeamish with images of biohazard tattoos, prep pills being discarded into a toilet, sickly looking men having sex and close up videos of anal insertion that feature more blood than lube.
Yeah, it's a lot.
All of which made his tweet so compelling.
Quote A friend of mine's boyfriend is currently in ICU on the verge of dying from HIV because the virus became drug resistant.
Currently thrown by this a bit, I'll be honest.
That comes from that book chaser guy.
It was a bracing statement for someone belonging to such a stringent sexual subculture.
The tweet even received some supportive responses with people expressing their concern or discussing the real life dangers of medication failure and even bug chasing itself.
Alas, the messages of sober reflection were not unanimous.
Bug chaser Has thousands of followers.
And they are a stubbornly devoted to their fetish.
And they are a stubbornly devoted to their fetish.
Quote, if he's hot enough, came a reply within ten minutes or within minutes suggesting the critically ill friend was ripe or some dangerous coupling.
Bug Chaser shot his response down immediately.
Not the right response at all, he posted.
Bug Chaser then added another tweet to his feed.
Quote, I'm blocking anyone cheering about this, by the way.
End quote.
Hmm.
And with that, Bug Chase's Twitter account went silent.
There have been no further posts to date.
Well, maybe the aides got him.
Maybe the aides got him.
Let's go back to Twitter.
And I'm gonna type bug chaser.
And I'll see what comes up.
Toxic pig for bug chaser.
Toxic paws in Georgia looking for one serious pause chaser to gift before I start meds.
I have never shared with anyone and only want to have one pause child with my DNA.
Man, these people are insane.
Bug chaser, send me your cum.
Send me your cum.
Bug chaser always looking.
I love used condoms based in the UK.
This is nuts.
Let's look at the rest of these.
DFW bug chaser.
Negative cum dump in the Dallas area.
I love taking loads.
I love taking biohazard loads up my ass.
Neg for paws bottom on BBRT and traveling bottom on breeding zone, blah blah blah.
Bug chaser.
Whenever I see bug chaser on here, I just think chase geyser.
That's all I'm thinking here.
All I can see.
Bug chaser you.
Bear back, bug chasing no loftion nigg for pause.
I'm a chubby from Kiev, Ukraine, mid-30s.
Jewish Ukrainian who's looking for top breeders.
Hey, bulls.
Weird.
More to come.
Adam Saunders, Derbyshire based nature enthusiast, bird watcher, bug chaser, mature student studying the natural sciences.
Blah blah blah blah.
Corona shot bug chaser lightning chaser.
Ayo, fuck X. Trump can suck a fat one.
Follow my blue sky.
Yeah, okay.
Well, it's pretty interesting.
Bug Chaser Twink 18, newly 18 from Florida looking to get paused.
Big dick and lightly used hole into chem sex and group usage.
Hi guys, I'm a 40-year-old gay man seeking pause tops to load me.
No load refused ever.
There are some interesting people in this world, are they not?
So messed up.
So messed up.
I need to like have a palette cleanser.
Let's see what's just going on in the old Twitter spaces.
More Nick Sorder bullshit.
He crumbles instantly the second he gets any pushback from a local resident, unhappy with his vultuous grifting.
Yeah, Nick Sorter, you are a massive grifter, dude.
Pallet cleanser.
Yeah, see that new picture or the latest picture has come out with Cash Patel doing some like boot advertisement for this leather bootmaker.
He's in full leather gear, and he's he couldn't look more faggoty.
And that's that's who he is.
Who he is.
What else we have here?
This is weird.
Some weird clown rap video.
Not really a clown, just some super white trash woman.
You guys want to hear it?
I'll do this.
Let's see.
Here we go.
Hey, I don't like some murder.
I just want money.
Tell me what the fuck, funny.
We wrapped up niggas, you like mommy Cruise off in the 80s Fire and crash it just like test dummies I'm a grown lady Uncle Sam my best buddy.
Only the same every son is ADA.
If he can't say I got quite put a nigga's hand on me, all the hot take has delayed, they gotta murder I just want money.
Tell me what the fuck, funny we wrap that nigga.
I'm a grown lady, Uncle Sam on Best buddy!
Only can see his baby son is in the eight!
Only can see his baby's son is in the eight.
If you a kiss sick, I got quake.
What was he niggas hang on me?
All that hot check out delay.
What's the fuck I crash with, don't say no fucking maze.
Life gave me lemons, baby.
Fuck it, I made that lemonade.
Pousin up in a little baby.
Bitch, wanna taste a little cocaine?
All your homes worth the...
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
Who is this?
We gotta figure out who this is.
A lot of use.
Horrible music, if you can call it music.
Sub ADIQ ramblings.
Someone made a posted a picture of this little kid holding a crucifix, crying with his hand out, like now get away from me, make it stop.
Martin McFly says, Does she have black teeth or is this jewelry?
That was my question.
I couldn't tell.
Do they have a name?
I have no idea.
Avril Levine.
Shadow of Mordor.
This is why you brush your teeth.
Uh, I don't know.
Nobody's nobody knows who it is.
Maybe somebody out there can tell me.
Pretty awesome.
Pretty awesome.
So with that, we're gonna end it there, and I'm gonna leave See you guys next week.
I'll see you guys next time.
Peace out.
You like mommy?
Cruise off in the head It's vibing, crashing just like this dummy I'm a grown lady, uncle said my best buddy.
I only can say baby son is ADA.
Met up, put that pussy on his face and take his BOA.
If you can't sick, I got quake.
Put that nigga's hand on me, all that hot delay.
I don't want a murder, I just want money.
Tell me what the fuck funny we rap that nigga joy.
Mommy cruise off in the ace, five to crash it just like test, tell me whoa.
