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win. Honestly, I see way more Texas places in California than the
people.
By far, they're everywhere.
I don't know what's going on with that.
Well, alright, let's jump into this.
Hello, everybody, and welcome to the show.
Today, we have with us a lawyer, a researcher, an author, and a graduate of the University of California, Berkeley, Mr. William Ramsey.
He has written numerous books, including The Smiley Face Killers, which is what we will be discussing today.
He's also made a few documentaries, including Occult Hollywood, Volume 1, Prophet of Evil, Aleister Crowley, 9-11, and the New World Order.
And the smiley-faced killers, who is abducting and murdering young men in the U.S. and U.K.?
Those are very, very good questions that millions of people want answers to.
And William Ramsey also has his podcast, William Ramsey Investigates, which is in the top 0.5% of podcasts in the world.
So congratulations, Mr. William Ramsey.
That's awesome.
And we advise everyone to go and check that out wherever you listen to podcasts.
William Ramsey, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
So, why don't you just start with, tell us how you got into your own investigation.
Like, how did you get to where you are?
Where did you start?
I mean, I think it has to go all the way back when I was researching my book, Children of the Beast.
I kept seeing these smiley faces in common culture.
So I saw them with Alan Moore, who's a known magician, right?
He's into the occult.
And his, you know, show The Watchmen and Fight Club.
And in kind of common music videos and things like that.
So it was always in my mind.
And then when I was researching that, I was like, hey, I thought it was this.
I remembered there was this whole Smiley Face Killers.
It was called the Smiley Face Killers because the original two researchers, Gannon and Gilbertson, correlated this disappearance and death of young men who later are found in water.
With this symbol of the smiley face.
So I thought it was kind of an urban myth.
And just kind of put it onto the back burner in my brain.
And then I started following on Facebook.
There was a smiley face killers page.
And then also a researcher by the name of Jim Smith.
And then I followed a case that happened in Columbus, Ohio.
His name was Joey Labute.
And he disappeared out of a bar not to be seen.
And I said, if this guy's found later in water, You know, I'm going to freak out.
This is going to be like confirmation that this phenomenon happens.
And sure enough, 19 days later, he was found in the Ceoto River in a previously searched area.
So somehow he got there.
And that was really how it clicked for me.
So then I went on this really intense research jag.
And this is like 2016, so it's hard to believe it's eight years ago.
And the result of that was a three-and-a-half-hour documentary that I made called The Smiley Face Killers, who is abducting, torturing, and murdering college-age men in the U.S. and U.K. And I cover, I think it was almost like 88 cases or some 120 cases.
Wow. All throughout that one documentary, which you can see on my Patreon.
You just have to pay five bucks, and you can watch all five of my documentaries, actually, for free.
After you pay that.
So that movie's been on Amazon.
You can watch it on Amazon, too, I think, for $2.99.
It's not, like, super expensive.
But that was kind of where it clicked.
And there's kind of a smaller community of people who've researched these cases.
And I talked with them and shared a lot of information.
Then I put out another documentary in 2020 called The Smiley Face Killers, The Global Slaughter Continues.
And then just last year, I put out...
A book titled Smiley Face Killers Investigating Suspicious Water Deaths of College-Age Men in the U.S. and the World.
And so, I mean, actually that was this year, 20th, I believe, 2024.
I just put out a second version of it.
So many things had happened that I added another 50 pages to a book.
Wow. Yeah.
So really crazy stuff.
Yeah. So, yeah, so that's kind of the short end of it.
I mean, my new book.
I have 375 cases of this similar phenomenon.
Very specific thing.
Men, college-aged, you know, got out of the home over 18, going out to bars, disappearing, you know, mysteriously gone for sometimes very long periods of time, 40 days, later to be found dead in bodies of water.
Oftentimes they don't look like they were dead for too long.
So that's another mystery.
And the government's kind of dropped the ball, in my opinion, the American government.
And I think, in my opinion, I'm saying this very carefully, that some of these urban areas are covering these cases up.
I don't think there's any doubt about it.
And there's been kind of a recent kind of uptick in these cases in places that didn't standard.
The original kind of case research was guys in, you know, a guy from New York City and another guy in the kind of Minnesota, Wisconsin area, these college towns that was happening.
But now that people are watching, it's actually, there was a huge kind of spike in water deaths in Austin.
It made the national media, and a lot of good documentaries and some kind of YouTube, what you would call YouTube influencers, are covering this case.
Like, I think his name was, I think he's from the Northwest.
Pereira, Olvera, Olvera, I think is his last name.
Sounds kind of familiar.
Yeah, 7 million followers on YouTube.
He actually went to Austin and investigated some.
I think they're doing a great job.
They're just not seeing the broader tapestry that this is a global occurrence.
It may be happening in other places.
I just don't have the language skills to kind of look into it.
Yeah, so it's really an uptick.
There was a kill cycle in 2024 that correlated with the Eclipse.
There were about 30 to 20 cases.
That's 2024.
And there was another SFK kind of style killer that was caught in the UK and went through trial and was convicted of committing an SFK style case.
So there's a lot going on.
That's interesting.
I was going to ask, have there been any suspects arrested for SFK specific deaths?
Absolutely. So this guy...
Is a transgender.
It's so strange.
It's really one of the strangest criminal cases you could ever hear.
And it was in 2021, just as COVID lockdowns were easing, there was a younger guy.
He was 30. His name was Jorge Carreño.
He was from Spain.
He was in the UK.
In Oxford, right?
That's the university town.
And he was drinking with his buddies.
He got separated from the group.
He was just downtown by himself drunk at 4 a.m. or 3 a.m.
And some guy walks up to him.
And a lot of this is captured on CCTV.
And so then they're talking and they wander off away from the CCTV.
So in my opinion, he gets lured away from the cameras.
The perpetrator is using premeditation and thinking cleverly.
So he lures Jorge Carreño either with alcohol.
The cops know that he had a murder kit.
He had implements in a backpack.
And so he lures him out and lures him away into this kind of river area.
And they know that he's alive for about a half an hour because his cell phone dies at a certain spot.
It gets submerged in water.
So they think that something happened and then he was drowned in this.
Well, they didn't know.
So what happened was in 2021...
The police said, we don't know who this suspicious man is, but this guy's drowned, Jorge Carreño.
Almost like a pond.
I think you could stand up and survive, right?
So it's very suspicious.
2023 rolls around, and there's two transgenders.
This is kind of an international character of this thing.
There's a transgender guy who's...
I can't confirm whether he was in...
Colorado or Austin, Texas at the time.
But he calls the UK police and says, hey, there's a guy who lives in Oxford who admitted to killing Jorge Carreño.
And so they went and interviewed this guy and he told the whole truth and uncovered that this was not an accidental drowning.
It was an intentional homicide by a transgender man to woman who goes by the name Scarlet Blake.
It's just an incredible confirmation of this.
I mean, for me, if somebody's been studying this for 10 years, confirmation that somebody's actually engaged in these premeditated murders.
And when they found out about this guy, he had killed a cat and cut a cat into pieces.
He was an admirer of this other Luca Minata.
Oh, man.
Yeah, right.
And also, after he had committed the crime, he went to the crime scene and took pictures and was online talking to people, investigating the case under a different condition.
Wait, what?
Yeah, he was part of the gender reassignment program through the Tavistock Hospital.
This guy that was arrested?
Correct. Holy crap.
Yeah, and you can see pictures of him online.
Or you can read my book.
Yeah, definitely.
That's incredible.
It's got that connection there.
Yeah, but here's the thing is that the court never made the connection to the larger criminal.
Criminality that's going on with these cases, right?
So they just busted him for one thing.
They never looked into his background.
He had flown to the United States numerous times.
He was part of the transgender community.
He had different online profiles.
And none of that came to the surface, and they didn't do any further investigation as if he might have killed somebody else.
Wow. It's incredible.
They just bust him for one and put him in jail for the rest of his life, and that's it.
So this is like, in a larger, to elaborate on your question, there may be other people who've been convicted of crimes similar to this who never got busted for other murders.
Oh, yeah.
Right. I mean, that MO, the way it was played out, it really sounds like, from what you're describing, that, yeah, that's not my first rodeo right there.
I've... I've done this series of strategies before in some form to lure people, and I'm used to it.
It seemed like from the way you were describing how it happened, it seemed like they were very, well, adept at it and practiced.
Right. I mean, that's what's going on.
See, I've always surmised that there's communication online in either fetish groups or BDSM or transgender.
That they're communicating and talking about the MO and how to commit the perfect crime.
So I think there's other criminals who try to commit either the perfect financial crime or the perfect murder.
Like there was these two couple gay guys in Chicago who tried to commit the perfect murder.
So maybe somebody's online and sharing tips and MOs and that's being played out all over the world.
I mean, it's really...
I think that this is the most incredible true crime cases in the 21st century.
I'm not joking.
There's so many deaths and so many things have gotten away.
The police have been clowned so many times and the medical examiners have overlooked facts and evidence and not shared it with the public.
But I do like it to get to your point.
I think it's that somebody knows this MO and is implementing it.
Because this has been going on since the early 90s, right?
I mean, the known cases that kind of came out, the first one is a guy, Patrick McNeil, 1997.
And it coincides with the rise of the Internet.
So there may have been other cases in the past that were just typed up to accidental deaths or something, but never made it into the public consciousness or the Internet.
But, like, that's where it goes back.
And I think, you know, I've talked to other people.
These types of cases may be going back.
For a long time, just calling them accidental drownings.
But I think the internet, something about the internet allows people to see things in a time and space and then compare notes and things so that you can put all this stuff together.
So I think the internet, the good side of the internet, I guess, is that these cases get memorialized and then people can kind of pick it up.
Like I picked up Patrick McNeil from Gannon and Garrison.
Not Garrison.
Gilbertson. Gilbertson, thank you very much.
Gilbertson's research.
Oh, man, this is crazy.
Because as of, what, 2019, there were at least 70 deaths connected to the Smiley Face Graffiti.
Like, how many are there?
Yeah, I know.
Well, like I said, I had 375.
Like, I've got 375.
I have an index in my book, so you can just look at the cases.
You can actually look them up online.
There's actually a really good researcher, and I dedicate an entire chapter to him.
And he has a website that's still up.
It's called Footprints at the River's Edge, and you can just see all the cases he's accrued.
It's incredible.
I think he has one or 200 cases alone on there.
Yeah, I found one on WebSleuths as well, and it's got...
One, two, three victims, you know, Charles Blatt, Anthony Skifton, Nathan Kapfer, and then 14 months pass, and then Jeffrey Giese, 24 months pass, Ken Christensen, Christopher Norby, 10 months pass, more victims, two months, more victims.
So it's like, they find people...
But those just come to the attention of the public.
I'm still adding cases to my show.
I'm sure it'll never stop.
And that's the thing, because there are so many copycat killers, right?
So how can you differentiate if this is actually a real smiley face killer victim, or if it's just somebody copycatting that has nothing to do with smiley face killing?
Right, like they're not part of the group, or they're emulating it.
I think in Chicago, it used to be like there was...
There was usually kind of like a victim group that was all white, largely white.
And so people thought it was like, okay, somebody's either doing things to white people or something like that.
In Chicago, there's been an inordinate amount of African-American victims.
They just had one pulled from the river yesterday, actually, a 30-year-old guy.
And so I think somebody might, in my opinion, looking at the evidence, somebody in Chicago...
Took this M.O. and maybe involved in a racist type of smiley face killing where he's targeting black people and killing them.
That's interesting.
For racial hatred, yeah.
This case is going to drive me crazy.
Just because there's just too many angles.
Like... Because at first it was all...
Was it mainly white people that were dying first?
Yeah, I mean, I think it was largely all white men.
Like, I mean, I think there was maybe one outlier.
There was an African-American guy.
Maybe one Latino.
Now... Strangely, a lot of people from India, right?
So not American Native Americans, but Indian people.
A lot of them popped up in Toronto and Vancouver and Austin.
There was a couple.
So it's something.
It's morphed and taken on different shapes.
It's like, okay, we're going to go after white people now.
Everybody, we're going after white people.
All right, we're going after African Americans.
All right, we're going after the Latinos.
And then, like, that's their prerogative, I guess.
I don't know.
That's so weird.
Well, I mean, much like transgenderism is basically an aversion of the base genders.
And you've also got, you know, this racism killing being an inversion of racial harmony.
It's an inversion of...
An inversion of...
Well, people's standard harmony.
No doubt.
Because I'm starting to realize all these things being pushed are, well, they represent inverting the harmonious version of it.
So you're seeing discord in people's identity and it's being expressed in different methods or means, sorry.
Right. So I'm wondering, do...
Are these people, are these victims, are they killed at the spot and then the smiley face spray painted there?
Or maybe the killer knows where there's already a smiley face, so that's the location they bring a body.
Are they creating the smiley face after they kill the victim?
If you read the original kind of book by Gilbertson and Gannon, it's called Case Studies in Drowning Forensics.
And they have the actual pictures of the smiley faces.
And there are other cases, too.
But they said that they believed that Smiley Face was put in where they think the body was put into the water.
So not where the body was found.
But they think upriver or something like that.
Some were very obvious.
Like, I think one of the cases in, like, there was a huge Smiley Face on the asphalt on the ground, you know, on the road.
Like, it's very apparent.
And it's in red.
They're all the same color.
So I think, and even some of the recent cases, I mean, there's smiley faces, Zach Marr.
I mean, I can think of all these other ones offhand.
There was one out in North Chicago, in between Milwaukee and Chicago.
I can't remember what city, but his name was Seamus Gray.
And you don't know if somebody's copycatting this, too.
Right. But he was a young, healthy guy, acting strange after leaving a bar, walked home alone, you know, the classic MO.
He's out by himself.
He's on CCTV.
He walks away from CCTV, disappears.
The guy was like a merchant marine, so he was young, healthy, and a good swimmer.
That's one of the odd things, is these are probably the least likely people to drown.
And then he was found kind of in a previously searched area.
And these are all, when these guys disappear, most of the time the family flies there, they're looking around, they get a PI, and there's a whole, you know, pamphlet tiers, you know, posters.
Dogs, police, helicopters.
Almost every single time.
But Seamus Gray was not found and then found in a previously searched area.
And in that area, there was a red smiley face.
This is last year.
Just last year.
So maybe it's a taunting thing.
And like you talk about anti-harmonious, like maybe this is some form of asymmetrical warfare.
Like they're literally going after people just to cause pain and suffering, you know?
I don't know.
I don't know how some...
Whoever's doing this is obviously not thinking in the normal set of, you know, normal mode.
Oh, yeah.
And all these cases, here's one that's interesting.
All 375 of these cases always happen at night.
There's never a day abduction.
There's never a day, like, you know, somebody gets abducted and then found.
So something's going on.
And you read some of these cases, like people like Berkowitz or everything that went down.
In Moscow, Idaho, over by you guys.
That guy, Kohlberger, used to drive around the middle of the night.
Like, he would be driving around just talking and doing weird stuff, like, over and over.
And there's actually an associated, you know, they call him the Moscow Four, but there was a smiley face killing that happened very close, in my opinion.
And the kid's name was Hudson Winslow.
And he was found about six months before the girls were, the four were found, right?
Oh, my God.
Like you couldn't drown.
Like, you know, it would be a challenge to drown there.
Like you would get up.
Look up the Hudson-Lindo case.
I mean, it's really something else.
Hudson-Lindo?
Yeah, Lindow.
L-I-N-D-O-W.
You can look it up right now.
Disappeared April 30th, found May 1st on Paradise Creek.
Let's see this.
Right outside of Greek Row in Moscow, Idaho.
Yeah. So it's kind of interesting that even the smiley face is inverted because...
The standard smiley face in popular culture is usually, well, yellow-colored, so a red smiley face would indicate more hostility, aggression.
I mean, red is associated with visible blood, which is also associated with violence, of course.
And yet, at the same time, when you're killing somebody in this, or if you killed somebody by the drowning, it wouldn't be terribly violent.
But since this is a ritual sort of thing, maybe that's not, I wonder if they died that way or not.
But the thing I wanted to ask specifically was the smiley face themselves.
I mean, obviously they're serving some kind of ritualistic purpose, putting it out probably beyond just taunting, I think.
Do you think the placement of the smiley faces, where they're actually picking to dump them, do you think that serves some kind of ritual purpose, too?
Like, they're targeting these spots, or are they just designating, I dump the body here and mocking them, and that's part of their, well, ritual of effectively humiliating the authorities?
I think it's an inside marker, like gangs and people.
Other people have markers, so they're letting people know who are on the inside who've been initiated.
This was my calling card, right?
Whereas the other people are like, oh, so exoterically, that's just a smiley face.
Ha ha.
So, like, there's an esoteric meaning.
And clearly there is.
I mean, it goes, all of the smiley faces involved in the common culture and all these artists and things like that.
Like, go look at Ed Sheeran's bad habits.
So, I mean...
They're obviously using it in an occult purpose.
There's been other people say, it's a sigil, it means laugh through tragedy, it has a deeper meaning than just a happy smile, like the superficial understanding of that.
I mean, I have a whole chapter in my book on the smiley face in modern culture.
It's all over the place in very occult settings.
Yeah, I find the occult aspect pretty interesting because I...
I mean, like you were mentioning, the entertainment, music, pretty much every industry with these really rich people, it's almost like an initiation part where it's like, okay, you want to move up to the next level, you want to be part of this group, you have to go kill.
And this is the calling card right here.
Because they're all organized, pretty consistent, they appear to be ritualistic in nature, right?
I don't know, the deaths are just a sacrifice, an offering or something.
Angle, pretty interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I wrote a book called Global Death Cult, not before this book, but it's basically about the Order of Nine Angles, where you are supposed to select a sacrificial victim, kill them, and not get caught.
So you're not supposed to overt it.
It's supposed to be something you do that you get away with murder.
So if this is something similar to that, maybe it overlaps.
I don't have that information.
I mean, but...
Yeah, I was looking into it.
I couldn't find much at all about that angle into it.
I mean, I've done a lot of shows on my podcast, William Ramsey Investigates.
I mean, it overlaps with my work.
You can go to my shows and look up Igor Sarsky, S-A-R-S-K-Y, and listen to his stuff.
But I have a chapter in the book about him, too.
My book is like a history of the study of the Smiley Face Killers.
It's meant to be a...
It's a memorialization of all the people who've done the research.
Not just me, but, you know, Gilbertson, Gannon, Jim Smith, Sarsky, Nicole Wisensee-Egan, the Boston Drownings with Elias Yeager.
So it's not just from one angle.
It's multiple different people looking into this and doing the research.
Did you ever get into Christy Peele?
Yeah, Christy Peele was one of the earlier researchers.
She was actually...
When I was kind of getting into the Smiley Face Killers, the reason I made the correlation between the Smiley Face and Common Culture and the Smiley Face Killings is that I listened to her on Coast to Coast Radio.
Yeah, that was a really good episode.
Yeah, so I have that in my book as well.
But I didn't name her by name.
She's kind of moved on.
Yeah, I found it interesting because I was looking into her because she was...
She was covering the story a lot.
She was like the person covering the story.
Yes. You know, because she was award-winning television host on Good Morning America, CNN, BBC.
She was big.
And then I think like come 2008 or 2010, it was after that last interview on Coast to Coast, that she pretty much just stopped covering anything related to it.
That's right.
And it's like, why?
Why did you stop reporting?
Did she get too close to something and they warned her to back off or else?
Why did people stop reporting on Epstein?
Yeah, exactly.
This goes to the very top.
I mean, it's in these urban areas.
I mean, you can look up Tafari Campbell.
Do that.
That'll be an interesting ride.
Tafari Campbell?
Yeah, T-A-F-A-R-I Campbell.
And this is personal.
Oh, yes.
Yes. Yes.
Oh, man.
I mentioned this a while back in another episode.
So, yeah.
So, Tafari, he was a chef to Obama.
And from what I remember, he went out to do a paddleboard ride outside of Obama's house in Martha's Vineyard or something.
And he ended up being found dead.
But he was with someone else.
And that other person has never been identified.
But I know that a 9-11 call was placed from the Obama's house saying that a person was missing, and they were looking for them, and then the next day they found the body.
So, who was with Tefari?
Yeah. Exactly.
Why didn't they find the body right away?
How does he drown in a pond that's averaged up to four feet?
Why wasn't he wearing an ankle bracelet?
Why isn't the ankle attached to the paddleboard that floats?
The reason you have an anklet to the battle board is so that if you fall off, you can get it back on the board, right?
Right. That's super suspicious.
Yeah, from my memory, he was also writing a book that was going to come out, and it was like a tell-all about his experience in the Obama administration as a chef, which apparently was going to expose a lot of stuff.
So that was kind of one of the reasons people are saying that he ended up dead.
Yep. I mean, it's pretty suspicious.
It was interesting, too, because the Clinton chef, too, died in suspicious circumstances in Arizona.
Like, I guess he went for a hike and drowned, too.
I think he drowned, too.
Strange. Weird, huh?
Weird how that works.
All water.
Man, it bugs the shit out of me.
You catch the knowledge, sometimes you catch the drowning, too.
Yeah. I found this pretty interesting.
The detectives working on the case, they...
They thought it was a domestic terrorist group that just got really sophisticated, and they said that each city has a small cell, like a sleeper cell, they say around like maybe a dozen members, that communicate through the dark web.
And they said that they had actually found the website on the dark web, but couldn't get past the...
Well, here's a quote.
We were on their dark web webpage, but it was asking us to turn on a video camera so they could see who was about to type in the password, and there's no way we were doing that.
And we didn't even have the password.
We'd just been given their URL, so we went to it because we were told that's how they communicate.
So that's really interesting coming from the detectives.
Right. They've done a lot of extra research.
They say they have 12 symbols associated with these types of murders.
I've never seen them.
I think they keep their cards kind of closer to their chest than I do, but I would like to see it.
So, add the smiley face.
That makes 13 signs of the true zodiac with the smiley face being the black hole.
I would like to see these symbols.
Yeah, I'm curious what the other 12 are.
Yeah, me too.
Wow. So, okay, I don't know the victim's name.
Larry... Larry something.
He's one of the victims.
He was found in water off of Owl's Head Park.
And then Patrick McNeil was found close by Owl's Head Water Pollution Plant.
And then Josh Sostacks, another victim, his parents found a severed owl's head on their doorstep.
So there seems to be a connection with owls.
Do you know anything about that?
No, no, but there were two bodies found in that same water treatment facility that came out.
They were both on Manhattan and ended up there.
It was Larry Andrews and Patrick McNeil.
Larry Andrews.
Sostak was different.
Sostak was acting strange, too.
I think he was somewhere in upstate New York, like Syracuse or something like that.
But, yeah, his case was interesting, too.
He's probably the only one of, like, an oversized kind of bigger guy.
Amongst all the victims.
So it's weird like that.
Yeah, because, I mean, the commonality was these guys were young, fit, healthy, I don't know, attractive.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But that's apparently changed through these years.
It's morphed.
There's really no question about it.
I mean, like the fact that there are people from India, like serial deaths of those types of...
A lot of them were immigrants.
I mean, it's crazy.
Yeah. When it's so varied and yet seems so targeted specifically in these clusters, it kind of eliminates a lot of the likelihood that this is just one or even just a few people.
Yeah, yeah.
So lots of them, actually.
Yeah, it's crazy.
What was that thing, Cricket, there in Chicago?
Was it last year or 2017?
There were over 1,000...
Deaths related to water, water drownings, but only eight?
I think it was 2017.
Oh, the stats I was looking up.
There was 4,000 total deaths in the whole United States from drowning was the overall total, of which eight were investigated as drowning homicides.
A vanishingly small number of these get looked into in the first place, let alone solved.
That's how many they determine, okay, this person was probably murdered by drowning.
So that's how many get looked into in the first place.
Imagine how many of those people they just kind of chalked up to, well, we can't tell.
Right. I mean, some are undetermined.
I mean, there was one case kind of in Minnesota.
Chris Jenkins, where they just said accidental drowning, wrote it off, and the parents had to go get a PI and look into the case.
And they got, I mean, the parents are doing the work of the police.
Parents got the autopsy pictures, and there's a clump of hair in Chris Jenkins' hand.
Like, how does somebody drown?
Like, I'm going to go drown in a river holding a clump of hair in my clenched fist.
Yay! Like, the police overlooked that.
And actually, to their credit, there was a newer...
Head of Chief of Police, and they changed the determination of Chris Jenkins' death from accidental drowning to either misadventure or possible homicide.
To their credit, that's very few.
That happens very few.
Did they ever DNA test that clump of hair?
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I first thought.
You have to...
These cops and these MEs, medical examiners...
Or either corrupt or lazy, or lazy and corrupt.
And it's an easy determination.
Oh, he was out.
Here's the problem with almost, and this is the same in all these cases.
Not only are they happening at night, nobody sees them go in the water, right?
Right. So that's another suspicion.
Like, if somebody drowns, like, hey, Bob's out.
Hey, John, I'm going to go for a swim.
I can't swim very well.
I'm actually, don't even float.
And I've never swam before.
I'll see you guys.
And then I drowned.
Then it makes sense.
None of these people say, you know, I've just got done drinking six beers.
Guys, I'm going to go jump in the river.
Right? Right.
This isn't happening.
They had a case, a huge case this year of a disappearing march.
Riley Strain.
International, you know, oversight.
International kind of views.
And, I mean, they...
They had videos of him.
They didn't release him until recently.
But videos of him kind of walking out of CCTV.
Like, it's very suspicious.
Like, he's on his Facebook talking to somebody we don't even know who it was.
Guy literally disappears.
And then everybody just said, oh, they just assumed he went to go take a leak and found him and drowned.
But then they found him two weeks later.
Downstream, he should have been, like, found much earlier.
There was a huge search.
He doesn't have his phone.
He doesn't have his pants.
He doesn't have his boots.
And everybody just chalked it up to an accidental drowning.
Do you know what's the same thing that's the same with Riley Strain and everybody else?
Nobody saw him go into the water.
And this is like a crowded time.
I think it was like a Friday or Saturday night in Nashville, which is kind of a party town now.
Well, it always was.
But he drove from Springfield, Missouri to Nashville with his frat brothers.
Why didn't somebody see him go in the water?
And why didn't these guys who were searching for him find him?
Where was he for two weeks?
They never even discussed the condition of the body either.
Was it consistent with somebody who was in the water for two weeks?
There are so many unanswered public questions.
They literally had this press conference when they found him and said, yeah, I guess that's it.
We know he drowned.
Move on.
They just moved on.
It's off the charts.
It's off the charts.
So I'm curious, forensically, would it be possible?
If somebody was dumped in the river with water to determine things, were they sexually assaulted or violently stabbed to death?
Did things happen to them before they drowned?
Or for that matter, was their death a drowning?
How hard is it to determine that stuff?
I'm no expert and I'm just curious.
That's a good question.
The medical examiner said there was no water in his lungs.
Like, they literally told the public that.
So that's suspicious as hell.
Like, how do you drown without water in your lungs?
There is a thing called dry drowning.
Yeah, I've never heard of it happening, but yeah, I've heard this phenomenon.
But here's what's going on.
A lot of the stuff isn't...
The parents, the families, a lot of these families just accepted what the police told them.
They used to trust the cops.
Like, that's a huge mistake, in my opinion.
But some of these other ones, like, they got the advice to do either an independent autopsy or get, you know, the medical examiner's report or try to find it.
And in some of the cases where that happened, there were new findings.
Like, imagine, like, Patrick McNeil told by the police, oh, your son drowned.
Okay. Thank you, police.
I don't know what happened.
He disappeared.
He was found in water.
Well, 10 years passed, and they decide to get the autopsy.
They give it to, like, a very famous forensic medical examiner, right?
His name, I can't remember.
But anyway, he looks into it and said, this guy's been tortured.
He has burns on the upper part of his body.
His family didn't know that for 10 years.
Look up the case of Patrick McNeil.
Look up Chris Jenkins.
Look up what happened to Dakota James in Pittsburgh, PA.
They said he drowned or must have fallen in the water.
And then this guy looks at it, same medical examiner, and goes, hey, he's got rope burns around his neck.
And, like, why didn't they tell the family?
Like, would you drown and then somehow put a rope around your neck?
And the condition of the body was not.
He wasn't dead for 40 days, no question.
So if this is an insight into the work of, like,
Are you talking about Cyril Wecht?
Yeah, Cyril Wecht.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, he's a world-famous coroner.
He's covered a lot of cases.
He's been involved in a lot of high-profile stuff, like JonBenet Ramsey, John F. Kennedy.
Here's the thing.
The guy is super bright.
He has a law degree as well as a medical degree.
He's been right about a lot of stuff he said about JonBenet.
If the police examined her before her death, their parents would have been arrested because she was clearly abused.
You know, I mean, those are pretty bold statements.
He said a lot of bold stuff, but yeah, he was involved in Kennedy.
Wow. He kind of knew the Cole Kennedy thing was a bunch of baloney.
Oh, yeah.
I actually had the honor of interviewing him.
Wow. So I have an interview with him, Cyril Wecht, on my podcast.
That's awesome.
Actually republished it recently.
Yeah, it's good.
It's a good one.
He goes through all of his cases and stuff.
He actually kind of had a really bad run in with Pittsburgh.
He was the Pittsburgh medical examiner.
And they tried to prosecute him for the pettiest thing.
He often used city cars.
I mean, these days the corruption is so off the charts.
It's hard to believe this prosecution took place.
He had to defend himself because if he pled guilty, he would have lost his license and he couldn't work.
So they had him between a rock and a hard place over the use of a public car to drive people to the airport.
And that was the abuse of public funds.
Something inane like that.
So he wasn't accused of embezzling tens of thousands of dollars or anything.
They tried to get him for that.
And I think it was political.
I have to go back and look at that case.
But when you see the massive...
Here in California, there's billions of dollars just missing and no prosecution.
Oh, who was the attorney general then?
Oh, Kamala Harris.
Kamala, she was in San Francisco.
There's been $25 billion spent on the homeless, and there's still more homeless.
It's getting worse.
They're just stabbing people and killing people all over the place.
There was one in L.A. of a homeless person just killed somebody or put him in a thing.
And then there was the high-speed rail or light rail or whatever.
And they spent $100 billion with nothing to show.
$100 billion.
There's like a monolithic bridge in the Central Valley that costs $6 billion and nothing's attached to it.
Insane. It's like a...
It's insane.
It's a testament to corruption and incompetence of levels that can't be comprehended.
It's just...
I mean, the whole country's being looted.
Oh. Because that's what's happening.
Yes. That's what's happening in Ukraine is just a huge...
Money laundering scam.
100% money laundering.
They admit it!
And nobody does anything.
Like Merrick Garland's like, did you say a naughty word?
We're coming to your house.
You insulted somebody online.
Here comes the FBI.
It's a joke.
So stupid.
It's such a joke.
We're almost close to getting nuked anyway.
So, you know, I wish you guys well gone.
And it'll be because of these losers like Kamala Harris.
Yeah. That's a bit of a tangent, but it's just, I think that these cases are happening in an environment of extreme corruption.
100%. And that's why they're not being looked into.
I agree.
Save your bottle caps now.
Just, just, yeah, bottle caps.
Just recently, this was just released just 13 hours ago.
Mystery as billionaire investor found dead in Lake on his luxury $2.4 million estate.
So there is an investigation into the mysterious death of a billionaire investor found in a secluded lake.
Daniel Rayner, 72, was found dead in Trout Lake near Fertile Valley Road, Penn, Oriel County, following an extensive search involving divers and cadaver dogs.
Hey, sounds familiar.
Is that Washington?
This is Washington, yes.
The Office of Studio reports of the missing person.
At the private estate the night before.
Sounds like Obama thing.
Yep, yep, yep.
Responding officers were forced to abandon the search because of nightfall.
There you go.
Rainer went swimming and just didn't come back, Sheriff Glenn told in minor newspapers.
Oh, he just went swimming and he just didn't come back.
Case closed.
Abandoned the search because of nightfall?
Oh, it's getting dark.
We can't look for people at night, you know.
The boogeyman is out.
It's Sasquatch.
Sasquatch is going to get us.
No, I mean, it's almost like Keystone Cops.
Yeah, totally.
They said that no current evidence suggests it's suspicious.
They always say the same thing?
Uh-huh.
We, of course, look if there are any signs of obvious trauma or anything along those lines that would be obvious to say that there is foul play involved.
We didn't see any in this case, so then we rely on the medical examiner in the coroner's office to give us a manner and cause of death.
So it's still ongoing.
But yeah, this billionaire investor.
Let's see, I wonder...
What was his full name again?
Daniel Rayner.
That's as much as I see here.
R-E-I-N-E-R.
No information.
Pepperdine University graduate from Spokane.
Trying to see if he has where he leans politically.
It's only worth to be in the billions.
Oh my god, he's also owned around 30 properties.
This guy owns 30 properties.
Golf clubs, Sacramento.
Golf clubs, San Jose.
Golf clubs in Cabo San Luis.
He's got golf clubs all over the place.
See who benefits maybe his wife or his kids or something.
That's really interesting.
It always seems like part of why corruption flourishes so readily is because so many people assume that they would catch it.
They think, oh, if this was going on here, I would see, I would notice.
They don't realize that so much stuff can happen around them and behind their backs and without them ever...
You know, actually having to sign any bit of paperwork that actually authorizes anything.
And so, therefore, when they get reports of corruption, they just assume it's false because, well, I haven't seen anything.
And it's like, realistically, most people don't pay attention in the first place.
But then the ones that do assume that they're going to catch stuff when, honestly, of course.
They're not going to be doing any of these things around the person looking for that stuff.
They're going to know to keep you out of the loop.
Yeah. It really makes you ask the question, why are all these CEOs stepping down?
The entire 23andMe board of directors are stepping down.
It's insane.
David Guber with AYR Wellness, he's stepping down immediately.
He's connected with P. Diddy.
SOTY Music National Chairman Randy Goodman stepping down.
Kevin Lyles of 300 Entertainment stepping down.
Kaz Kobayashi, CEO of Warner Music Japan stepping down.
Max Lozada, Warner Music Group stepped down on the 30th of this month.
Elliot Grange, Lucian Grange's son, is going to take over.
Nike CEO John Donahue stepping down.
Doesn't it just make you feel so warm and fuzzy to know they're just like us?
I knew this place that was constantly selling booze to minors without guarding them and getting popped for it to the point where they get their liquor license and beer line license pulled.
And what did they do?
They sell it to a family member who doesn't have that record and they can have a beer and wine license and they open the place right back up.
So it just makes me feel warm and fuzzy to know that billionaires are just like me.
They could be corrupt just like us.
It's like they have this notion of new face.
Oh, well, now we're good.
It's pretty incredible.
It's pretty incredible.
What's your take on that, William?
What's my take on what?
On all these CEOs immediately announcing they're stepping down after the P. Diddy arrest.
They're probably blackmailed or somehow involved in it.
That would be my guess.
Yeah, they've got to be.
I mean, because everyone knows at this point that P. Diddy was recording everything in every room of the house 24-7, and he had those freak-out parties or whatever they were called.
Yeah. Everybody was videotaped.
Yeah. Yeah, it's just like Epstein.
His house was probably like an Epstein house in blackmail, and he was a protege, I think, of Clive Davis.
Yeah. So he probably learned it from him, and Clive Davis is probably doing the same thing.
I mean, I don't have any proof, but...
I mean, I think that that's...
I don't know if you know this, but the P. Diddy house is on the...
It's probably the most exclusive street in Beverly Hills, which is already exclusive, right?
So I think he lives next to the DeBeer family, the Diamond Mine family.
But it's down the street from the Playboy Mansion, which is also bugged and filmed.
Huge honeypot.
Good blackmail stuff.
And a lot of these guys have weird...
There's some intel guy somewhere around.
So either FBI connection.
I don't know.
I would expect to find one if I really looked into P. Diddy's background.
Because he's probably getting protected somehow.
Much like Epstein, right?
Epstein was very much protected.
Until it got too overt.
People were like, hey, this guy's really bad.
He's doing horrible stuff.
So I think the same thing about P. Diddy.
I actually have a picture of P. Diddy talking to Obama.
Oh, plenty of them.
Yeah. Lots of clothes.
A lot of parties.
Lots of parties.
Never going back and forth between letting him out.
Same with LeBron.
Nobody parties like a pig Diddy party.
That's what LeBron said.
LeBron James said that?
Oh, I thought Obama said that.
I think they both might have said that.
Obama's bathhouse marauding is...
Known, you know, men's club and all that stuff.
Bathhouse Berry.
Bathhouse Berry.
I'm trying to find P. Diddy, his second-hand man or whatever, his right-hand man, a woman, I can't remember her name.
She apparently was the one going around and pretty much forcing people to do drugs at these parties.
Oh, wow.
And Kim Kardashian is also fingered as being one of those same people.
She would walk around.
Man. At these freakout parties and drug people's drinks.
And, yeah, man, there's a lot of stuff coming out.
J-Lo is at these parties.
There's video of her doing it.
Yeah, dosing people really takes the fun out of drugs, I tell you.
That's some dirty shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's not good, dude.
There are a bunch of videos coming out of these parties.
Videos, I just saw one yesterday of P. Diddy, like, drugging somebody.
He's literally face down on a couch.
Doesn't even look like he's sober or sentient.
Like, he's out.
He's laughing at him.
Look at what we do to white boys.
Put your drink on his head.
Put your drink on his head.
They're just messing with him.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
We saw the same one.
Yeah. And, I mean, that's just what they're recording and putting out there.
Right, right.
Like, that's not even the dirt.
That's just the humiliation.
That Newcomb from Orbit lawsuit against P. Diddy was an expose that was worse.
He had more stuff on Diddy than people had on Epstein.
It was everything.
The abuse, the gay sex, the drugs, people carrying his drugs, crazy amounts of different types of drugs.
Pink pills with weird stuff.
Tucci or whatever?
Just like cocaine and MDMA?
Yeah, that's crazy.
It's interesting looking back through all his public appearances, he always looks stressed out and nervous in all of them.
He never really looked like he was having a good time.
Man, that smile doesn't really look that genuine.
A lot of times he's just straight up frowning, like doesn't look happy at all to be photographed, let alone to be at the party.
And it shows, I think, that this is actually kind of standard practice in Hollywood.
I don't think he's an outlier.
And I think that there's a lot of these entertainment companies are run like mob things that involve murder, money laundering, blackmail, all kinds of nasty stuff.
A lot of these other companies do that.
Films are notorious for money laundering or inflated budgets and things like that for weird stuff.
They call them different stuff, but that's like the star's cocaine budget.
Literally, there's stories about like, oh, so-and-so has a masseuse.
That's the prostitute who's supposed to be around for the celebrity.
They just call it something different.
Right. Oh, personal assistant for Mr. So-and-so.
I'm not going to name names, but those are like rumors and stuff like that.
So it gets pretty dark.
So I found the name of the woman I was talking about.
She is Combs Enterprise's Chief of Staff, Christina Corum, who he said was his right hand.
She was a master manipulator in chief, is what people would call her.
She's basically, she was the Ghislaine Maxwell of Sean Diddy Combs'Enterprise.
Seems like an apt description.
I mean, up until he got hemmed up, up until he actually got hemmed up, how many people even knew Ghislaine's name?
Hell, how many people know her name now?
I think she was known within her elite circle that she spent time with, but I don't think any of the public really knew her or knew how bad it was.
I think she's probably one of the greatest spies of all time.
Oh yeah.
Who was her dad?
Robert Maxwell.
Yeah. Owned the media.
Okay, so Sean Combs is in prison.
His registered number is 37452-054 in Brooklyn, MDC.
So if you care to write to him, feel free.
It's like, is he James Bond?
No, he created the article saying James Bond didn't actually kill all those guys.
Right. Well, back to the cases here.
I wanted to ask about the Todd case.
Todd Geib?
Todd Geib, yes, yes, yes.
What happened to here?
Because this is a really strange one.
Yeah, that was one that took place in Michigan.
So he was in, I think it was like outside, in some lake.
It was outside, it was south of Grand Rapids.
I'm trying to think where it was.
It was like Kalamazoo-ish area.
There was a lake that he was at.
He was at a party.
Obenhall Lake.
Yeah, Obenhall Lake.
He left the party, disappeared.
There was like insignia on some tree somewhere.
And then he was found in the water upright in a strange way with his head out of the water.
So he was dead.
And then when he died, they buried him, and somebody went and put a smiley face on the gravestone.
Oh, my God.
There was another case around there, too, that I covered, a kid whose name I don't remember offhand.
There was an insignia?
Do you know what that was?
There was a smiley face.
It was just a smiley face?
Okay. So in that case, it was a yellow one.
Well, where they found Todd, the area was searched thoroughly three times with as many as 1,500 volunteers.
And when they found him, the death was, you know, undetermined, and then another autopsy was carried out, and he had been dead for only two or five days, despite being missing for three weeks, so he was kept somewhere, and kept alive, and when they found him,
there's no water in his lungs, so he didn't drown.
Yeah, that's just so, that's a weird case.
Standing upright.
Yeah, that was another, yeah, yeah, standing upright.
That was another one that Cyril Wecht looked into as well.
Yeah, the second autopsy, yeah.
So those second autopsies are very important.
It's almost like there should be a second autopsy on every suspicious death, right?
Right. Yeah, Casanova is the city that he was supposedly in, north of Grand Rapids.
Which one, in your opinion, which victim...
In this case, is the strangest, like, just out there for you?
Well, they're all pretty strange.
There's a bunch of different ones, but I would say that there was one guy by the name of Colin Finnerty who died kind of close to Big Rapids, kind of close to this.
This is actually West Michigan.
But what's interesting about him, he was like a great football player.
I think he was a...
What is it?
Tier B college football player.
Won the national champion two years in a row as quarterback.
But he went out hunting or something in Baldwin or near Baldwin.
And said somebody was following him.
Disappeared. Huge search.
The whole story.
Couldn't find him.
And then he was found in a very obvious place.
But what's interesting is somebody went and from not even here, they actually sent...
Sent me something about Finnerty.
Finnerty, like, the weird thing is that he was missing, right?
So, like, where is this guy?
But somebody did this whole thing where they do the...
What is it?
Not the astral travel, but they were in Europe, and they basically...
It's kind of almost like scrying.
They tried to go into what he was, but they said, according to this, like...
Almost like a psychic.
I have another psychic, actually, Sloan Bella, who talks about some of these cases.
RV? Remote viewing?
Yeah, remote viewing.
So they remote viewed it.
Thank you.
And they said that he was taken to three separate places.
And in the last place, it's almost like somebody was pouring water.
Like they were water torturing him and making him not breathe.
And so it's consistent with this kind of like fake drowning.
Like somebody's premeditatingly drowning these people in separate areas and then dumping the body.
And it's almost like they just did it just to do it.
Like there was no motivation and it was a group.
So that Colin Finnerty case is really something else.
I have a full chapter on that remote viewing and what the remote viewer saw.
The remote viewer was in Europe.
I knew nothing about the facts of the case.
I stand behind that, man.
I really do believe in that.
You know, people can remote.
We just did that episode about remote viewing and stuff.
Yeah, that was a couple episodes ago.
We were talking about the Gateway Project and Focus 15 and 21 and all that.
The CIA's programs.
Going into the past and particularly clicking out like you're talking about where you can go and view events that you were a part of but not from your perspective or even beyond that and viewing events you had nothing to do with.
That was an amazing one, too.
That whole rabbit hole.
I was curious if there's some kind of connection here to overall rave culture.
I see smiley faces, the iconography.
I think there was a music group or some kind of phenomenon called the Die Happy phenomenon, which was a smiley face with a gunshot wound in its head.
Overall, just a smiley face, when I think of that, I think rave music, acid, techno, house music, and particularly happy hardcore music has almost every album I've ever seen from happy hardcore.
It's got smiley faces just covering it.
Is there some kind of connection here to rave culture?
I think so.
I think that there definitely is.
And you see some of these darker influence bands and stuff like that, like Throbbing Gristle and these techno guys.
I think that the culture of Rave, a lot of those guys were occultists.
They were definitely trying to have alternate universe-type parties with a lot of drugs.
And so it makes perfect sense that the smiley face is associated with it.
And a lot of these guys come out of these Raves and drop...
They flat out died.
There was actually a spate of three cases in New York City, in the boroughs, I think it was the Bronx, this year, that they all came out of the same rave and died.
Like, it's off the charts.
You can't even believe it.
Were they weird deaths?
Yeah, they're all smiley face killing deaths.
It's called the Brooklyn Mirage.
You can look up the Brooklyn Mirage.
Those are all 2023 cases.
Yeah, three.
John Kastic, Clemente, and there's one more.
Anthony Benjamin, all found in water.
And I can't think of a more disharmonious thing than murdering somebody coming out of a rave.
I mean, one thing raves are known for is a feeling of oneness.
The thought that somebody would take advantage of that and the vulnerability somebody would have, I mean, coming out of that, you'd be more trusting of people as a whole.
That's so scary.
Oh, they turn it around and use it to kill you.
Wasn't there a survivor?
There's been a number of survivors.
Comedian Tom Dillon interviewed one.
I had a survivor out of Boston I talked to.
There's been tons of people who've been drugged and survived.
Can you tell us about a few of those?
Yeah, they had one in Boston just recently.
That was a man in 2022, November 24th.
But he was actually at the TD Garden where other victims have come out and died.
William Hurley was the name of one of them.
But he was literally face down in water.
He was bleeding.
He had a softball-sized welt in his head.
His ear had been partially...
He ripped off, but he literally survived.
This is from the Bad Brain podcast.
You can literally listen to this guy talk about his experience.
He knew he only had two beers, so he wasn't drunk.
He just doesn't remember anything.
He was by the water's edge.
And when he was pulled from the water, there was somebody there that they never interviewed.
There was literally another guy who wasn't there to rescue him.
But with something else going on.
So they never, any of you, has never followed up with this guy.
Do they have a picture of?
They have a picture of him?
Yeah. Have we seen it?
Have you seen it?
Yeah. No, it's on the, you can just look up, you can probably just go to my book and look up the links and you can see the picture.
Of the suspect.
Well... The thing is, they never said he was a suspect.
Right. That's the whole problem.
I would say that would be the first person I'd want to talk to and find out about who that person is.
100%. Go listen to this Bad Brain podcast with the kid.
I forgot his name.
He's a young guy.
But they're like, who's that guy?
They're in shock that the person who was with the victim was never interviewed.
And nobody knows his name.
Yeah, it's a bit weird.
Yeah. How is he not even a person of interest?
As in, I'm interested because you might know what the hell happened.
It's standard police protocol to question the last person that was with someone.
It's unbelievable.
That guy was right there.
It's truly unbelievable.
Like, I'm literally looking at the link right here.
NBC Boston.
Can you send it in this chat here?
The picture.
Yeah, yeah.
Live stream chat.
Copy that.
18-year-old leaving Celtics game hears screams for help saves man drowning near TD Garden.
Finn Connor is walking with his dad to their parked car when he jumped into the water to help a man in distress near TD Garden.
So it almost sounded like this was a failed attempt.
As in they tried to abduct him and then...
When that failed, just tried to drown them, and then, well, just were kind of there once they were pulled out?
That's the really crazy thing.
How much power in pole do you have to be for them not to be curious in you at that point?
Yeah. This is crazy.
So the teen sprinted to the locks next to the Massachusetts state police barracks where he saw another person was already there trying to save the stranded man from drowning in the water.
Trying to save the stranded man from drowning in the water.
And that's when Finn Conner jumped in.
into action to lend his support.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
He was in the water trying to support him because he was unconscious.
I see both of them, and then I run down the bank, get in the water, and try to get out to them.
They're maybe 5 to 10 feet offshore.
So I get out there, I grab his arm, and I'm trying to support his
and I sort of carry and pick him up to the shore as best I can.
But then the other guy just...
Bounced out.
Yeah. I mean, wouldn't you be a little curious as in maybe he saw you coming and thought, well, I better stop drowning him and start pretending I'm saving him?
Yeah. That definitely sounds like he was in the process of killing him.
That's for sure.
Yeah, and just got caught up and just kind of talked his way into walking away from the scene.
Yep. I can't believe it.
It's unbelievable.
That'd be bad fiction.
I'd be like, no.
No, cops aren't that dumb.
They can be dumb sometimes, but they ain't that dumb.
Everybody can be dumb, but not that stupid.
Come on.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Cops, they're incompetent because they're told to be incompetent for the most part.
I think there's a lot of politics.
There's a lot of things that are told.
I mean, I think that a lot of these cities are political machines.
Yeah. So, you know, you want to keep your job.
Not ruffle feathers or not, you know, there's the thin blue line.
You don't talk about other people's corruption.
You don't, you know, don't make any of them look bad.
I mean, a lot of the, like, one of the shocking things, like, I've been researching this stuff.
For 10 years, I literally gave up calling the cops or just asking for information.
It just was like, I might as well talk to a brick.
They're not helpful to the public.
Like, oh, I'd like to get this.
How do I do this?
Who are you?
Why are you calling?
What do you want?
Like, it's just, there's no transparency.
There isn't.
But they talk about, oh, we're so transparent.
We are for the community.
You always see these stupid local commercials of your cops.
Well, yeah.
More inversion.
They're doing the opposite of what they say at all times to intentionally irritate you.
And the police departments literally call local citizens asking for money.
My parents have been called multiple times for the cops asking them to donate to the police department.
It's like, no.
I happened to get a phone number Of somebody who once donated to them, and I still get the calls.
That's horrible.
So we know that some of these victims have been held for up to 40 days, I think is the longest one, right?
That we know of.
I mean, some bodies aren't found for four months or five months, so you don't really know the time frame or whether they're held or what's going on.
But that one case that I know of, there's a couple 40 days.
One is Dakota James.
Dude, no.
I just...
Because when I read about these things, I always put myself in the victim's shoes to just be there and try to figure it out, you know?
When it's like that, when a killer takes you, kidnaps you, and holds onto you for X amount of time, and then, you know, your inevitable death is coming, it's just the worst, dude.
Yeah. They probably didn't see it coming.
It just reminds me of the Ariel Castro stuff.
Yeah. Dude.
Look up a guy, Edward Lamphere.
He had two men abducted.
Externally, he was a straight guy.
I think he had a girlfriend or a wife.
But he had abducted two men from the same area where all these other smiley face killings occurred.
He could have been already arrested.
He could have been the one that had been doing it.
He was a serial killer.
They just didn't catch him for serial killing.
So you don't know.
We don't know if these people have been caught for other crimes.
You can read that in my offender typology section.
I go into all these other guys who've committed similar crimes to this.
Dungeons, men, they're attracted to men.
And there's a lot of them.
It's very disturbing.
Alright, guys, I gotta wrap it up.
I gotta wrap it up.
Yeah, where can people find you, William?
William Ramsey Investigates.
You can find my podcast there.
It's in the top 0.5% of Podcasts in the World, and then my website's the same, William Ramsey Investigates.
You can buy signed copies of my book there or on Amazon.
And all my documentaries you can see on Patreon.
You can just pay $5 a month and watch all five documentaries, two of which are on the Smiley Face Killers.
Awesome. And I'll put all that in the show notes as well.
So ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in, listening to Mr. William Ramsey talk about Smiley Face Killers.
Come back next week for another awesome episode.
And until then...
Always just trust the government.
Take care of yourselves.
Take care of one another.
Cheers, good sir.
Cheers. Thank you.
Well, we didn't really get to the news.
That's what I'm thinking.
Yeah. So we will just continue with some news because we did want to get into some news, but we didn't really get into it.
Yeah, we just kind of jumped straight into the interview.
With him only having an hour, I'm glad we focused on that.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, we kind of did touch on some Diddy stuff.
Touched on most of the Diddy stuff.
We could cover the assassination attempts with question marks.
Well, the one thing about the Diddy thing, for me, is in the actual case transcription, whatever, the indictment, it blatantly talks about how during the raids at his homes,
they found multiple illegal firearms, including three AR-15s with...
Scrubbed out serial numbers, okay?
Highly illegal.
But they're not charging him with any guns charges, which is weird.
Why do you think they're not charging him with any illegal weapons charges?
I mean, considering from what I'm hearing, he's basically screwed and going down.
Well, that kind of says to me that maybe the gun charges would possibly lead to links they don't want people to make.
Because if you add the gun charges in, well, that might open a can of worms as to where those guns came from, who supplied them to them, and with how much blackmail and powerful people are involved, I guess they're just wanting to stick with the honeypot.
They gotta hang out the honeypot, and I would say overall it's just a limited hangout kind of deal.
They just don't want to admit that because it opens a greater can of worms than they're willing to allow.
It kind of reminds me of how...
Eric Coulter or Holter?
Eric Holder.
And Obama did the operation Fast and Furious.
Oh yes, Eric Holder.
Which continued on until there was a...
I think what finally ended the program was somebody got...
Well, it got found out because somebody was killed by one of the guns.
A Border Patrol agent.
How many of those weapons that the US government, Obama and Holder, put out there are still out there?
Because they lost track of pretty much all of them.
They got, I forget the number, but it was out of like 10,000 guns or whatever, they got like 200 back or some shit.
Oh yeah.
Well, I mean, if it ended up that those guns with the filed cereals could be somehow traced back to Fast and Furious, boy, that would open a huge can of worms because that would implicate the whole cartels into the P. Diddy case and the honeypotting and everything and the blackmail.
Yeah. Yeah, I could actually understand the logic behind keeping that out.
Not that it's good.
Corruption's never good.
No. No, it's not.
What is this?
But I understand the logic.
The devious logic.
After freak-offs, Combs and the victims typically received IV fluids to recover from physical exertion and drug use.
Here's a video.
I'm going to have to play this because this is kind of intense.
I'll have to share.
Good God.
They could just do what regular Raver's doing, you know.
Drink water?
Like, what kind of drugs are they doing where they're being forcibly dehydrated to the point where they need intravenous?
I mean, that sounds less like partying and more like borderline torture, honestly.
Well, it is.
It's not just straight up torture.
It is.
It's torture and mind control.
From what I was reading at these freak-off parties, these are no joke.
These are literally...
A performance.
Literally, you have to perform sexually for hours.
And you're getting it put to you, and you're forced to be the one doing it to other guys.
And so if your guy is totally gay, you have to do that.
It's all part of it.
Diddy was all part of it.
He was filming these things.
And not only that, They're extended sex orgies, very physically exerting.
And on top of it, you're ingesting a lot of drugs and alcohol.
And nobody thought to bring a water station.
Well, that's the thing.
Combs wouldn't let anybody in there with the cell phone or any outside belongings.
He provided everything.
Wow. And so you are...
When you're doing a lot of jugs overnight, partying, drinking a lot, you're going to get really dehydrated.
Especially if you're doing exertion, like orgies, you're going to be sweating your balls off.
Oh yeah.
So like, you're going to need some fluids in you.
Especially in a closed system.
But it's pretty intense that these parties are that intense where you literally have a bunch of people on IV drips just to recover.
So I'm going to play this clip here.
It's P. Diddy talking about his mom, Janice Combs, and these parties.
My mom's gorgeous.
She looks all doped up.
Hi. I've never heard that drug reference.
That sounds like a drug reference.
yeah I was just laughing and look
at the camera
Yeah, my mom is single.
My mom is single.
I ain't gonna hate on my moms.
She's single.
Me and my mom talked about one time doing a dating show, but she's so picky.
She's so picky, they don't stand.
But yeah, that'll be the funniest show in the world.
It will be.
That shit will be.
I don't even want to get started if she was doing that.
We're not doing that.
Yeah, my mom's single.
Yeah, for real.
My mom do know how to have a good time.
She ain't sitting in the house playing.
Outside moving and shaking, baby.
She come with me to strip club.
I don't care.
It's my dog.
I want to live life.
We out here moving and grooving.
My mom told me, she just said, keep moving, baby.
Keep moving.
She can touch the floor with her palms.
Oh, wow.
Flat. Flat.
Yeah, what do you make of that?
Dang, if you need an IV drip to recover, I mean, that's a sign that simply hydrating the standard way could potentially result in hyponatremia and all kinds of, I think that's the term, or the opposite version,
or the opposite of hyponatremia, but yeah.
That's not a standard level of even dehydration.
Normally people go to hospitals to get drips.
The tradition is to go to the hospital and get an IV drip, not get a drip on your patio.
I mean, the fact that he's got IV drips ready to go, I mean, he's literally prepared for this, knows it's going to happen.
And you can prevent this.
How heavy is the drug use where they're not able to hydrate?
It's heavy.
Yeah, that almost sounds torturous where you're getting forced to do it when you don't even want to do it.
Yeah. It's the initiation.
It's all part of the initiation process.
You have to listen to this one.
Obviously. Let's see.
Let's listen to this one here.
So this is going to be a video of...
Sean Combs telling Kevin Hart that he and R&B singer Usher used to wake up and quote-unquote wrestle in the morning when Usher was only 10 years old.
So, let's listen to this one.
I mean, back in the days when he was like 10, I was a little bit older.
His older brother, we used to fight over the Frosted Flakes.
You know what I'm saying?
Before Paws was invented.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's my brother for real.
We used to actually wrestle off of the Frosted Flakes because he used to always get up early.
Yo, what the fuck did Puff just say?
Nobody's going to grab this with me.
Puff just said we used to wrestle over the Frosted Flakes.
And we're streaming live.
That was stupid.
Listen, that was fucking stupid.
You're having a good time, yo.
Are you ushered in the field?
Hey, yo.
I was a bit older.
Honestly, the attempted cleanup there at the end made that a hell of a lot worse.
I'd be like, oh, so you were kids and you were fighting?
That's pretty normal.
Why are you so embarrassed?
Yeah, and then it was like, yeah, it sounded so innocent until he's all like, what the fuck?
Why are you bringing up this story?
And I'm like, well, damn, that doesn't sound good now.
He made that a million times worth with his reaction.
It would not sound bad had he not done that, honestly.
Yeah, what were the Frost Flakes?
Little Biebers?
Little Justin Biebers?
I'm like, now it really makes you wonder what the hell the Frosted Flakes were now.
It's crazy because all the bodyguards are coming out and telling all the stories about shit.
The only reason they're doing that is so they can make deals with the prosecution.
They'll talk.
They will talk.
They don't want to get hemmed up.
That's all there is to it.
They don't have the level of pull and power that he does, so they know they're screwed.
A next-door neighbor of Sean Combs says that Diddy would transport busloads of miners to his residence late at night.
He said, like, you see all types of shit late at night, especially at 3 a.m. in the morning.
That's what the neighbor said.
I mean, I think he's a total FBI...
Assets. CIA asset.
Whatever. Yeah.
And he was given the key to fucking New York some years ago in 2004 or some shit.
It's just crazy, dude.
The connections are everywhere.
He's... If this goes the way that it should go, you know?
The way that it should go, this would bring down a whole lot of people in the entertainment industry, dude.
Quite the house of cars.
And in movies.
Yeah, just like House of Cards.
In the political realm...
I mean, I wonder about that metaphor.
Dude, it's nuts.
You always hear about rich and famous people getting the key to the city.
What does that mean?
Yeah, right.
Now that I think about it, where does the key to the city lead?
Does that mean that you're initiated into the underground secrets of the city?
Yeah, what does that...
The key?
What's the significance of it?
It's got to be some sort of like...
Initiation? Ritual?
Well, yeah, I was going to say, all over the whole Freemason thing, there's all those references to locks and keys, keeping your perceptions locked away and everything.
The doorway to...
Oh, man.
So, you know, that has creepy implications as to what that key opens.
100%. And Sean Combs, man, he is connected to Kamala Harris.
Big time.
Did you know that?
I actually didn't know that, but now that he got hemmed up, I was seeing actually a post by her thanking him for some kind of party he hosted back in 2020, which, yeah, it's a pretty awkward shout-out now.
I would have deleted that post, but at the same time, Internet's forever, so there would have been no reason for her to.
Yeah, because he had his television show or whatever.
I don't know what he was doing.
But he was talking with her because she was in San Francisco at the time trying to run for senator or something.
I forget what exactly.
Whatever her position was, attorney general.
And so he was talking with her and he was just like, this is a huge deal.
This is really, really...
He was funding her, dude.
He was funding her little cabinet there.
So they're connected.
And we already know he's connected with Obama.
Tons of photos with that.
Oh, yeah.
That's the thing.
He's got connections through his parties and everything.
He's got connections to almost any celebrity you could name, practically.
They've been seen with him at some point.
And that's the trick.
He's got the level of exposure to celebrities that more underground fingers like, say, Suge Knight and whatnot do.
But he's public.
Right. If I told somebody outside of the music industry, mentioned Shug Knight, they'd ask, who's that?
But people know who P. Diddy is that do not listen to rap music.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, he is known.
And when you're that known, when you're on the stage, you're probably an actor.
You are an actor at that point.
If you're up on that stage, you're an actor.
Even if you're not acting for one side, you're still filling a role.
You're acting something.
Yeah, I'm not saying because P. Diddy, Puff Daddy, Sean, John Combs, he wasn't just supporting the Democrats.
He was also supporting the Republicans.
And there are hundreds of pictures of Combs and Trump together.
Oh, yeah.
As well as...
Just a bunch of people, elite people at these Trump gatherings, you know, because Trump would have his Mariago things.
And a lot of people would show up.
I mean, it's one of the most lucrative parts of the coast.
Exactly. In that area.
I mean, it is the most lucrative part of the coast.
Indeed, he was out there.
So he's on both sides.
And he also talked with Hillary Clinton a lot, too.
Oh, yeah.
People explain away the whole thing saying, oh, he's photographed at parties with Trump.
That doesn't mean anything.
And I always think, yeah, that maybe doesn't mean anything.
But at the same time, are you really confident?
Because come on, you're not going to get a smoking gun on any of these people.
There's always going to be some plausible deniability where you can try and explain it away for yourself if you want to be okay with somebody.
You have to view everyone as at least somewhat suspect in this deal because they're all somewhat dirty.
Yeah, and I don't know if you've listened to the Cat Williams episodes.
He goes on podcasts, and he's talked about this stuff for years, how he turned down $50 million to go party at DC.
Oh, great.
Oh, a great expense to his career, to his life, to his personal health.
That poor guy has really sacrificed a lot to speak.
He got vilified so bad when he started speaking.
Oh, yeah.
I used to not like him.
I used to not like him at all when he was getting big back when he was starting, you know?
But then, like, the more I listened to what he was saying, once he got more conspiracy-oriented, I guess, once he started actually talking and not just being a comedian, I was like, damn, this guy's actually saying some shit!
Oh, yeah.
I was never hugely fond of his stand-up, but...
Yeah. I gained massive respect for this guy.
At the same time, I had to recognize that millions of people definitely loved his stand-up, so he did have some talent and stuff.
He did.
He was great at what he did.
It just wasn't my thing.
Have you heard or seen the video of one of the sex slaves of Diddy's?
He was in jail and he was being interviewed.
He's in a hospital gown and shit.
And they're asking him questions, but he starts talking about Sean Combs, Rick Ross, and DJ Khalid.
Have you seen that shit?
I don't think I have.
I think I've...
Oh! It's the guy, dude, it's the guy that shot up the Trump National Hotel in 2018.
Oh, for real?
Yeah, so he's in jail, and he's talking about this whole Diddy shit.
So let's listen to this.
Combs. Puff Daddy.
Yeah. D-D-D-D-D, whatever you call himself.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
I had sex with Cassie and Sean.
Basically, he would masturbate and tell me what to do with Cassie.
I was like a sex slave, okay?
For them, that's what I was.
That's all, alright?
I caught herpes, and I came back and I sinned for herpes and won.
But, Teddy and Ross, which are good buddies, okay?
They're gay.
Both. Teddy and Ross.
DJ Khaled, Rick Ross and Diddy?
They all gay?
Yeah. Gotcha.
Alright. I don't want to talk about D right now.
I want to talk about you.
Help me understand you.
mean, who?
Jesus Christ.
It looks like an exchange of gunfire right out of a Hollywood action movie.
Police say on Friday he opened fire inside President Donald Trump's luxury hotel.
Sir, I'm ordering that you stay away from the Trump National Doral Hotel.
Police say that's where Odie stole an American flag from and that he went into the lobby yelling anti-Trump remarks before shooting the ceiling and chandeliers.
The gun battle goes on for nearly a minute before Odie decides to make a run for it.
Another camera capturing him still firing shots, even tripping on the marble floor.
Odie was shot in the leg, ran away, and was arrested after running up a stairwell.
The accused gunman, Jonathan Odie, faced a judge for the first time Monday.
Mr. Odie, you were arrested for five counts of attempted second-degree murder of a law enforcement officer.
I was wondering why he was running weird.
Wow. So, yeah.
Somebody's Delta programming went off.
Yeah. That stinks.
That's pretty weird.
That guy sounds initiated.
Just the way he talks.
The way he's relaying that sounds like he was actually programmed to disclose it.
Because he was up front.
He was saying things.
That's just a part of the clip.
You watch the full clip.
He says some pretty intimate things that you just wouldn't know unless you were there.
Yeah, see, and you notice how most people, when they reveal that stuff, they'll get nervousness, they'll have a bit of a look of fear about them.
He was very confident.
His overall expression, he was very nonchalant.
He was not afraid that he was going to get killed for saying that stuff.
You could tell there was no fear in it.
And he was just up and saying it.
Yeah. That's the really bizarre thing.
Especially when...
And the trick is, that guy had to have known at that point that he was more than likely going up for some kind of bid.
So he could have very easily been taken out afterwards.
I'm curious if he's still alive, actually.
I'm looking it up right now.
Jonathan Auti.
Is Jonathan Auti still alive?
Because, I mean, you know, it's not as easy to take somebody out when they're out in the open, out on their own.
You don't have them in a closed environment.
They might be able to hide in places you can't get to them.
But, you know, when they're locked up, they lose all their freedoms.
They're really easy to take out with just a few corrupt joints in the system, and nobody else even knows anything's going on.
So Jonathan Auti is originally from South Africa and became a U.S. citizen one year before he shot up the hotel.
Let's see, Jonathan Audie update.
He is...
It's funny because from how they framed it in the news story, up until they talked about what his charge was, it just sounded like he was shooting at the hotel.
Like just randomly spraying it with gunfire and just seeing if he hits anybody.
The guy is a porn star.
No, he was actually shooting at a Leo outside.
The guy is a porn star, apparently.
Or, not a star, but a...
Porn... Porn actor.
Porn performer.
Yeah. Jonathan Auti's death verdict revealed?
Death verdict?
What the hell is happening?
Wait, did he...
Oh, you son of a bitch.
Wait, he got executed for a non-violent...
for a failed attempted murder?
According to countylocalnews.com, Jonathan Auti, the infamous Doral Miami shooter...
Has reportedly passed away according to various news sources.
However, it is important to know that this information is still unverified.
Uh... We're picking a doorknob to hang him off of.
A red tie.
We were getting him in a red tie and finding a doorknob.
Give us a minute.
What the hell, man?
Did Jonathan...
Oddie... die?
Why won't this just tell me?
There are no confirmed reports.
Well, let's try this.
2024. Why is it so hard to find this guy?
So he just died?
This year?
Or are you just still looking for when?
I'm still looking because things are like, no, he's still alive, but no, he's dead.
But 2024, because all these dates are old.
All of them are back in 2018.
All of them.
There's nothing new.
2018, 2018.
They're all 2018 articles.
Did he just, like, disappear?
They just kind of wrote him out of wikis and stuff?
So, the latest I found something.
The latest, Jonathan Otty's whereabouts in 2024.
This is from July.
The answer is that he's currently living in the United States.
Jonathan Otty's a former professional soccer player?
This isn't the guy.
Well, I guess that's going to be a dig.
That's definitely not the guy.
So, he's...
Maybe dead?
Possibly? Yeah, nothing comes up on this guy, man.
I mean, it's so far out that...
I mean, his death was probably so far removed from his actual testimony and all the news hubbub that there probably wouldn't be too much coverage of it happening.
But the fact that there's none at all is a little suspicious.
Investigation report, Jonathan Avi from Miami.
State attorney.
Jonathan Oddy.
2019. Miami-Dade is where it happened, right?
Doral, Florida.
Yeah, Miami-Dade.
I'm going to try to look up Miami-Dade jail roster.
Jonathan Oddy.
Jonathan Oddy is currently held in Miami-Dade County Jail.
When was this article?
Yeah, okay.
We're going to look him up through.
The online inmate lookup.
How do you spell his last name?
O-D-D-I-E, I think?
O-D-D-I, yeah, yeah.
And then Jonathan, how do you spell that?
J-O-N-A-T-H-A-N.
I'm not a robot.
Stairs. Stairs.
Stairs. Verify.
There he is.
Okay. Booking date, 5-28-2018.
I think it's 76. Location, MWDC.
Bond at 5,000.
Bond at 7,500.
So, maybe he's there?
Apparently. I mean, the whole maybe he's alive.
Well, I guess he's alive.
That's where he is, apparently.
So, I guess I'll conclude that he said all that stuff and they didn't kill him, so...
Therefore, he was meant to reveal that.
I guess.
There's such a span at this point that they can't just be tying up loose ends still.
I mean, P. Diddy's already getting busted at this point.
And speaking of P. Diddy, I wanted to show this.
This is with him and Hillary Clinton.
You ready for this one?
I just want to know, Hillary, when they finally arrest me with all the pedophile shit I do, how does a brother survive jail without being Epstein'd?
Well, since you have a lot of shit on us, we're probably going to get you Epstein'd as soon as you go to sleep.
But, hey, at least you won't have to shower, am I right?
So, anyway, enjoy your last meal, Puffy.
I didn't expect that.
I didn't expect that.
That's some Stephen Miller, MD, PhD.
I was just like, if that is not AI, that is incredibly damning.
That feels too damning to be real, honestly.
That's so funny.
We're not standing by no more getting killed.
We're not scared of anybody standing up and standing by.
We're on the verge of a race war.
Yeah, this is Sean Combs talking shit.
White men like Trump need to be banished.
That way of thinking is real dangerous.
When you look at it, we don't have no choice.
You know what I'm saying?
You can say what you want about Biden.
I can't say I love the pick either.
But hey, we got to get him in office.
And then we got to hold him accountable.
So he was really pushing the race war narrative hard, wasn't he?
Yes, he was.
Yes, he was.
Gee, I wonder if he had some intel connections.
He was definitely intel connected, dude.
Yeah, he was definitely 100% not ever proven to be Intel connected because that shit is disappearing.
Because that's the whole reason that he went from getting hemmed up to two months later finally getting busted.
I mean, come on.
That's two months of cleanup?
Mm-hmm.
But then again, the 9-11 commission needed 411 days.
Yeah. Yeah, dude.
Sometimes you need a little extra time to make it neat and tidy and get that official story just so.
You need to dot your I's and cross your T's.
Yeah. So, this one's pretty awesome.
I wanted to play this when we talked to, I forget who it was a couple episodes ago, but I think it was...
Brittany Vaughn?
Screen. Share.
On the Gateway Project?
Yeah, with Brittany Vaughn.
Yeah, I was mentioning this couple, and I couldn't think of who it was, but this is John Legend and Chrissy Teigen.
Public Place, you did it.
Is this the best or the worst?
What are you doing?
The best.
Okay, the best.
Probably the Obama thing.
What? John!
What's the...
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
John? What?
What is your wife talking about?
I don't know.
We heard a guy in there.
We should get back in.
What happened?
We're not going to discuss that.
We're not going to discuss it?
We're not.
We're not.
Oh, my God.
Secrets, come here.
Jump back in.
We're not talking about it.
That's the truth.
That is an awesome answer.
Not the White House.
He was not elected yet.
Yeah. Okay.
Anyway, we're moving on.
I'm sorry.
That makes it a million times more salacious, don't it?
Oh my god.
She was like...
I like the Obama thing.
She knew she fucked up.
She was scared.
Oh yeah, that's smart.
Let's not talk about that thing I just brought up.
Wow, can you believe that shit?
I mean, part of the revelations is not even like...
Some kind of revelatory protocol.
It's just the fact that so many of these people, they move in these circles where this horrible stuff is so commonplace and normalized to them that when they bring up things like this and then people go, oh, wait, what's that?
They realize, whoa, yeah, you are not in this world that I'm in.
I better stop talking about it.
No. And listen to that.
Okay, we're going to play this video about Chrissy Teigen.
And her tweets on Instagram.
A guy made this video.
Let's listen to this.
This is Chrissy Teigen.
You know, John Legend's mixed wife.
You know.
This is the weirdo.
These are the weirdos in Hollywood.
So when people talk about Hollywood, y'all talk about people with conspiracy theories.
No, no.
These weird ass people.
And she was with Epstein too.
Anyway. I'm about to empty wiener this kid.
What the fuck?
So you're talking about kids now?
Haven't we always said that people in Hollywood are going after our kids?
And she's making jokes about this.
I saw a baby that looked like a porn star.
Like a trashy, do-anything toddlers in tiaras.
Like, they want you to know it's extremely young kids.
Pornstar. Is this wrong to think?
Yes, bitch, it's wrong to think.
What the hell's wrong with you, you weird ass?
You know what?
I was against DJ Academis going at you, but I think I understand why.
I just think he couldn't, with his status, he couldn't come out and say, you know, I truly fell on why he went in on you, but skinny pedos drank Pedalite.
What the f*** is Pedalite?
And what the fuck is on your mind?
Like, these are the weirdos.
And y'all women look up to them.
Y'all look up to these fucking weirdos.
Waterslide that goes through a shark tank.
F yeah, time to get my pedal on.
I just saw a baby that looked like a porn star.
Like a trashy do-anything porn star.
Is this wrong to think?
Yes! What the fuck?
Yes, that is.
Good God.
I accidentally went to the children's aquarium looking pretty pedo-bearish cruising the parking lot.
And nobody's reported this, bitch?
These are old tweets.
You know, because she deleted thousands of tweets because people in the comment section on Twitter are getting in her ass, which they should.
If you said eat this one bite of human and you can eat any other meat the rest of your life, or Chrissy, you could...
Eat turkey forever, I'll eat human.
I bet you would.
So now you're into eating human flesh.
Wow. How old are these?
This bitch is crazy.
Oh, 11. So these are Japanese.
Okay, okay.
I read the first one.
Let's see.
I didn't read the second one.
Nah, he just said the cleanest and best pleasure is to have six with a 13-year-old.
Hold up.
Up until that.
Ha, ha, ha.
These people are making jokes about this.
A bunch came out right around the comet, ping pong stuff.
I mean, she was applying to some nigga named Kevin Stockis.
Don't like me, I don't know.
And don't kill her, no.
They just ignored the reports.
I mean, block this bitch up!
Unless she's being protected.
I mean, I think she's protected.
Okay. I now know what parents go through when they are forced to tie their kids up in the basement.
You have to do it because it's...
Icky. Am I right?
Okay. I'm about to go to jail over pizza.
Okay, see, I remember when Pizzagate happened, you know, when they said it was a trial sex ring in D.C. and some pizza spied, and the guy went down there with the gun, and he was talking about the language, and she's using the language right now,
pizza, which I forgot what pizza means.
Which I think it means child sex or whatever.
I think cheese pizza's young girl.
I think pizza's girl.
It's always mean how strong little toddlers' tummies can look.
And I'm aware of how absolutely disturbing that sounds.
Alright, next, bro.
I can't read no more of this sick shit, man.
That's pretty much it right there.
Isn't that nuts?
Just open, openly putting that out there.
They don't really sound reluctant about eating human, I'm going to be honest.
That sounds more along the lines of just, I want to be a cannibal, but that's not socially acceptable, so I have to present this either-or situation, so it doesn't sound as messed up what I'm describing.
There's also this new picture from Kendrick Lamar.
This isn't what I'm...
No, not Kendrick Lamar.
I've always been really blurry on who's what celebrity or whatever, unless I specifically work.
One of these artists, they did a new photo shoot for a new album, and they're on a bike in front of a brick wall, and behind the brick wall is this big thing of graffiti.
I forget what it says, but then in the graffiti, there's just a regular...
Kind of like you just did a quick spray paint, like your signature or something, and it says pedophile, but it's very, very clear.
But it kind of blends in to the graffiti behind it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that doesn't look very incidental to me.
Here we go.
It is Cardi B. People are like, why the hell did you do that?
Why did you post up in front of this wall that says pedophile?
And she says, first of all, we literally picked a random street because paparazzi was hounding us everywhere.
This was supposed to be my original first picture, and we had to edit the photos in minutes because the shoot got leaked.
Didn't even have time to edit, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And she was pregnant, too.
Like, she was pregnant.
Just happened to have the word death file in it in giant letters.
Yeah, she's getting called out by people.
Yeah. But she's like, it was just a random pic.
We didn't know.
I didn't even tell.
I couldn't notice.
Really quick to wrap this episode up.
What did you think about that interview?
That's some crazy info, honestly.
Especially the part about it being tied somewhat to rave culture.
I always did think that raves and everything seemed like some kind of spiritual ritual of effectively...
Inducing harmony.
You can feel it when you get together with them.
Positive experience.
Yeah, so what we're dealing with is somebody who takes that experience, flips it on its head, and turns it into a negative thing.
The worst part is they're using people's newfound openness and willingness to go along and get together with people to then turn around and kill them.
They literally let these people open themselves up and then they take advantage of it.
Really awful.
Not cool.
It's like, you know, going to Burning Man and meeting up with a dude or a woman or whatever and just being like, oh yeah, and they're already high as fuck, right?
You're all high.
Well, maybe you're sober because you're fucking crazy and you're like planning this out.
Yeah, they might be sober.
So you have to be like on point.
Yeah, they're sober.
This killer is sober and they've got this festival and they find someone that's already drunk and high and they can tell by the demeanor that they're like an open person.
Nothing. They're just like, you know.
Hippie child.
Free. Free loving.
Let's go.
Let's do anything.
And so the killer goes to them.
They're like, oh, hey, let's go over here to my place, my little tent.
I've got some really good GHB or something.
I've got some really good...
What's the big drug going on right now?
Who loves...
I was about to say, Special K was in the news recently.
Is it ketamine?
So yeah, ketamine's pretty big.
Yeah, cocaine was more associated with fentanyl lacing lately.
People are scared to use it.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, so I got some really good ketamine in my tent.
You want to go back there?
Oh yeah!
I definitely do that!
Because how many times, Cricket, have you been at a festival or a rave or a party?
And someone's like, oh yeah, let's go back to my car.
I got some really good shit.
Let's go check it out.
Or let's go do this.
Let's go do this.
And you're just like, yeah, sure.
Like none of my friends ever have anything cool, but I'm sure it definitely happens.
And that's the thing is you're already suggestible and then you just add this random third-party person who also seems perfectly friendly and wants to share free drugs with you and invites you back.
And you don't realize as soon as you're getting away from those I would honestly say that more than likely, most of the people that are actually plotting it are 100% sober.
For example, even at the example of the freak-offs and everything, you need a person there who is effectively a trip-sitter who, even if you plan on...
Ending the person afterwards.
You don't necessarily plan on dying in the process.
So you need somebody there to revive you, potentially.
So they're always going to have at least one person.
Like, even in, you know, you're talking about, I'll go all your way back to Helter Skelter.
Manson was always sober.
Everybody else was.
Yeah, he would dose everyone up.
Well, I thought it was a great episode.
We haven't talked about serial killers or killer or anything like that on the show for a while.
So, it was great to have William Ramsey, man.
The great William Ramsey on this show.
That was amazing to me.
It was pretty cool.
Yeah, that guy knew a lot of stuff.
He knows a lot about a lot.
It's awesome.
See, I personally just read about this stuff with fascination, but he actually had the academic knowledge that I totally lack.
Yeah. Yeah, 100%.
100%. It was a treat.
It was definitely a treat.
And I hope the listeners The listeners out there had a good time listening to this episode.
Got some information on the smiley face killers.
Like, it's gotta be some crazy secret cult, and I think there are a lot that are the main, like, kind of impetus of the whole thing.
And then there are just a bunch of copycats that have nothing to do with the actual project, if you want to call it that.
That's my take on it.
Yeah, it seems pretty unlikely.
Some sort of initiation thing.
Yeah, it seems pretty unlikely that all of the people are doing it for the ritual purposes, just with all the differences between them and everything.
But there's enough with that consistent signage where you just know there's some kind of, like we were talking earlier, there's some kind of MO being shared or distributed.
This idea is getting circulated into this collective consciousness through some communication means.
Well, as they demonstrate, which, if anything, is actually probably harder to do now than it was 10 or 15 years ago or so.
I mean, you were reading those tweets that they were going over back in 2011.
Those things would 100% get a red flag today, and they just went with no notice.
And I can almost guarantee that...
The guy was saying, why does nobody report this?
I can guarantee some people saw that and thought, this is messed up, I'm reporting this.
Those reports just went ignored.
It's the same with the James Elephantus Comet Ping Pong Pizza, his Instagram, and all of his followers and friends.
The shit that they were sharing, holy fuck.
Just openly.
Openly. Have you seen any of that shit?
I've seen a few of the tamer pictures that make their way...
Well, I'm not really talking about the pictures.
I mean, there are a lot of pictures involved, but...
I was about to say, I'm sure there's worse ones, but I just see pictures where I'm just like, uh, what happened after this point?
Yeah, I mean, that whole rabbit hole, man, it's just crazy.
We should actually do one.
We'll do a live...
We'll do our first live show, and we'll go over, like, Comet Ping-Pong shit.
Yeah. So you're going to have to brush up, do your little investigation, get your notes prepared.
We'll do that soon.
Yeah, I'll have to look into more of it.
Because, yeah, the only thing I knew was the suspicious pictures where everybody's like, what's the circumstances behind these?
Because that was the one that got all the attention.
People didn't really talk much about the posts that were words as much.
Yeah, well, they're just saying a lot of weird shit.
And that went along with those pictures.
And videos that were coming out.
Yeah. Because he also owned this place called Pegasus Museum, which he was not too happy that somebody was doing a really deep investigation on and found the whole tunneling system.
And Elephantus was not happy.
He actually called the guy, which the guy recorded, and threatened his life unless he stopped investigating.
But hey, that just got swept under the rug.
Yeah. That was too inconvenient.
I should reach out to him, see if you can get him on the show.
I'd be curious if he'd want to talk about it or not.
I'd be scared as hell too, but maybe?
It's scary because all of those guys are still in Washington doing their thing, and how my ping pong is still open and thriving.
And it seems like to a certain point...
Same menu.
They could easily conceal this stuff.
They want a certain level of hangout.
To generate some, not even pre-acceptance, because I think that's actually impossible species-wise.
But more so, they're trying to generate the perception of acceptance.
Like, oh, see?
Everybody else ignores it.
Like a general apathy towards it.
That's exactly it.
It really is.
You just put those suggestible phrases out there by a trusted source, quote-unquote, and then people are like, oh, okay.
Without doing any investigation into it.
It's like, well, we've got plenty of trusted sources and unnamed officials.
If you'd like me to quote other people that are really just me talking, but I don't want to say it.
Well, let's close this out here.
Thank you, everyone, for tuning in.
It was a pleasure.
I enjoyed the show.
I did.
I enjoyed this show a lot.
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