Episode 70. Moon Man: A Discussion with Bart Sibrel
CONTACT ME: Email: paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter: @paranaughtica Facebook: The Paranaughtica Podcast Bart Sibrel is an award winning filmmaker, writer, and investigative journalist, who has been producing television programs, documentaries, music videos, TV commercials, and stage plays for over forty years, all starting at the age of eighteen, and even hosting his own television talk show. He has owned five video production companies and has been employed by two major networks. He has worked as a television news reporter, and produced videos shown on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, TLC, USA, and BET. He has appeared as a guest commentator about the moon-landing fraud and to discuss his films “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon” and “Astronauts Gone Wild” on NBC, FOX, CNN, HBO, Geraldo, The Daily Show, The Abrams Report, and Coast to Coast. Articles featuring his films have been published in Time Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and USA Today. He has won awards from the American Motion Picture Society include Best Cinematography, Best Editing, and Top Ten Director.In his latest book, Moon Man, he reveals his real-life espionage adventures investigating the CIA's greatest secret, including his discovery of privately recorded audio of an astronaut plotting the assassination of today’s guest, by the CIA.He was also punched in the face by Buzz Aldren. Pretty wild.You can find his books, his videos, and everything else that he is doing over on his site at Sibrel.com Again, that is Sibrel.com(Music after Introduction is Bart Sibrel's production)***If you’d like to help out with a donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on my page and you’ll see a button to help me out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation. You can also go to the Facebook page where I have a link to Ko-Fi and Pay-Pal if you'd like to help out the show. I would greatly appreciate it! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I have an amazing guest with us today.
He is an award-winning filmmaker, writer, and investigative journalist who has been producing television programs, documentaries, music videos, TV commercials, and stage plays for over 40 years.
All starting at the age of 18 and even hosting his own television talk show.
Who else can say they've done that, right?
He has owned five video production companies and has been employed by two major networks.
He's also worked as a television news reporter and produced videos shown on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, TLC, USA, and BET, among others, I'm sure.
He has appeared as a guest commentator about the moon landing fraud and to discuss his films A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon and Astronauts Gone Wild, which were both on NBC, Fox, CNN, HBO, Geraldo, The Daily Show, Abrams Report, Coast to Coast.
Articles featuring his films have been published in Time Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and USA Today.
He has also won awards from the American Motion Picture Society, including Best Cinematography, Best Editing, And top ten directors.
And in his latest book, Moon Man, he reveals his real-life espionage adventures investigating the CIA's greatest secrets, including his discovery of privately recorded audio of an astronaut plotting his assassination.
That's right.
Plotting today's guest's assassination by the CIA.
And as he puts it, that assassination would not be necessary if the government and the crony agencies actually went to the moon.
Bart Sabrell, welcome to the show.
Thank you, Coop.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fantastic, other than being burned over 95% of my body from the sun.
Yes, you know, I was listening to my bio there, and I was thinking, you know...
I guess the reason why they never got around to knocking me off is just all the paperwork.
You know, you have to fill out first.
You know, thank God for all the red tape.
Yeah, lots of it.
Because it's probably going to be another 45 years before they actually get approved for that assassination.
And of course, they'll be over budget.
So I'm really glad the government is corrupt as it is because it just takes forever to kill somebody these days.
It seems like it.
But I listened to Moon Man.
I didn't read it.
But I listened to it, eight and a half hours long, and there is so much there.
You pretty much touched on everything that has ever been cause for concern in these matters of the alleged space rays, right?
The moon landing hoax.
You've covered everything in this book.
It's a great book, and I encourage the listeners to go check that out.
You can get it on Amazon, I don't know where else, probably anywhere you can buy books.
Yeah, just go to sabrell.com, S as in Sam, I-B as in boy, R-E-L, sabrell.com.
My last name, it's there in Kindle.
Print and audio, which I read myself.
And apparently more people are doing it that way.
Audio? Kind of, yeah.
Two different people suggested I do it, and I thought, well, you know, one suggestion, I was like, eh.
But two people suggested it, and so I did it, and that's, I don't know what percentage of people who have read the book listen to it, but I would say it's at least 25%, maybe more, maybe a third.
Preferably, I would have liked to read it.
But this was short notice.
I was like, I have to get this done.
So I just listened to it and I was like, this is amazing.
I listened to it straight through.
I was like, this is amazing.
Yeah, just don't listen to it while you're doing brain surgery.
Yeah, don't do that.
You could have a medical malpractice lawsuit on your hands if you do that.
And the cool thing about the audio version is that you read it yourself.
I thought that was logical.
I mean, I thought, I just assumed that was the way it was done.
An author reads this book, but apparently that's rare.
I didn't know that.
To me, it's logical to do that.
And my book is interactive.
And as far as I know, it's the first interactive book.
I write a chapter, and then I say, if you want to understand the next chapter, go to sabrell.com, click on the Moon Man video links button, and go to clip one.
Another chapter, go to clip two.
So that I back up.
Everything that I'm saying in video clips, I think there's 17 of them, two of which were added after the publication of the book as more information came out.
Yeah, it's almost like the old Goosebumps books where you're like, at the end of the page, like, if you want to do this, go to this page, go to this page.
So I thought that was pretty cool.
You threw those in there.
I was like, oh, that's sick.
Because you don't hear that in any other audiobook.
I've never seen that.
Yeah, well, that way we can back up what we're saying if we're talking about photography.
And the photography of the alleged moon mission is taking place in a television studio.
It's good to show a picture.
One of the things you can do, I made a video.
It's on the homepage of Sabro.com.
It's called The Moon Landing Fraud in Three Minutes.
And really, you can prove the fraud in one photograph.
If you go outside on a noon, let's say you're in a business.
A lot of people are IT people.
Just go out in the parking lot on a clear.
Cloudless day.
Look at two trees, two telephone poles, two people standing in the parking lot.
You'll see their shadows always run parallel.
It's impossible with the sun being a million times bigger than the Earth and it being 93 million miles away.
It's going to cast shadows in the same direction over an entire continent or moon.
Photograph that I show, which is from the last mission, allegedly, to the moon, because I thought, well, maybe they faked the first one, got their act together.
Well, no.
They all had the same equipment.
So if the first one can't go to the moon, which we have proof of, then none of them could.
And, of course, the one with the intersecting shadows at 90 degrees from objects five feet apart is from the, quote, last mission to the moon, meaning they never went.
And of course, you can see that video and see the shadows.
And that's why it's so important.
And then I talk about this discovery I made of classified footage of fake photography.
You could call that the second proof.
I mean, really, legally, you could prove it in a court of law that they faked the munitions from that one picture.
All you have to do is take the jury outside, have them see two trees, two telephone poles, two people's shadows always running parallel, go back into the courtroom, turn off the lights, there's generally no windows in there, bring in an electrical light, have a person stand in front of it, you'll see their shadow goes at 12 o'clock,
and then have a person stand to the right of it, and you'll see their shadow goes a different direction, or bring in a second light, and it proves that it was lit with electrical light, which means they're on Earth.
And if it weren't for the fact that it's a positive lie that people wanted to believe, then people would see the truth.
It's this pride-puffing lie.
Mark Twain is attributed to have said it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
I did an interview a few months back with a pretty well-known TV radio personality who...
As you know, multiple times said he's anti-government corruption.
Then he has me on for 10 minutes over audio only.
And the following guest is a lying Apollo astronaut he has on video for an hour.
Oh, my God.
And he kisses his feet and, you know, talks about what a great hero he is when he's accomplished multiple homicides to cover this up.
And that's not my opinion.
It's the opinion of the dead people's relatives who told me so.
And so this guy who appears to be anti-corruption, in his mind, I know America has gotten bad, but at least we went to the moon.
And, you know, it's so sad you have people defending it who are sincere, but sincerely wrong.
And it's really different.
You know, most government lies are to cover up tragedies like Kennedy.
His own relative says that he was killed by the CIA.
So I trust his expert opinion.
Then you have 9-11.
3,000 architects and engineers say it's mechanically impossible for a pinhole airplane to go in and out of a steel grid and cause its collapse.
So all you got to do, look up a picture of the Oklahoma City bombing where half the building is blown away and the thing stood rock solid.
So I take their opinion.
I'm not an architect or engineer.
Sign a notarized affidavit risking their reputations and livelihood to attest to the fact that explosive, not airplanes, brought down those buildings.
I take their opinion.
But in either case of JFK or 9-11, it's simply a matter of changing who did it and why.
It's still a deep, tragic event.
The moon landing is different.
It's a positive lie.
And they guaranteed its success by staging it.
They can't go today.
So how could they possibly go?
So, so far, Coop, we've listed two proofs.
Shadows intersecting at 90 degrees from objects five feet apart proves it's lit with an electrical light and not sunlight, which is parallel.
The moon landing is fake.
You can prove it in one picture.
Sabrell.com homepage.
Case closed.
If you need more proof, on the homepage is a funny thing happened on the way to the moon.
A million-dollar film project financed by someone who builds rockets for NASA, who knows that it's fake, who gave me a million dollars to expose it.
The film took seven years to produce.
We found classified footage of them faking being halfway to the moon from Earth orbit.
Dated two days into the flight where they're supposed to be halfway to the moon, but outside the window it's filled with the Earth and Earth orbit.
And a third track of audio of the CIA prompting them to fake a four-second radio delay to make it appear that they're further away.
And the lights come up and you see it's a one-foot model of the Earth that they're pretending is floating in space from a distance.
And that proves it.
I showed that to the news director at NBC.
He practically fainted.
And said it absolutely proves they did not go to the moon.
The Washington Post said the same thing.
And they refused to broadcast it because they got calls from people high up in the federal government threatening them if they broadcast it.
And so they backed down.
They both admitted the moon landings are fake.
The Washington Post and NBC News.
And they refused to do anything about it because of threats from the federal government.
There you go.
So that's the second proof.
The third proof is today, with 50 years, five decades better rockets and computers, the farthest that NASA can send an astronaut into space is one thousandth the distance to the moon.
So what they're really saying is, back when NASA had one millionth the computing power of a single cell phone, They sent astronauts on the first attempt ahead of schedule with 1960s technology a thousand times farther into space than they can do today with five decades better technology.
So they're really claiming that for the first time in history, technology was a thousand times greater 50 years ago than it is today.
There's never been a moment in the entire history of the world.
We're a technological milestone like flying across the Atlantic in an airplane or breaking the sound barrier or splitting the atom that no one could do 50 years later.
It's never happened in the history of the world.
That's because they pretended to do it.
They bluffed like in poker.
That's the third proof.
And then the fourth proof, we have an eyewitness, as you know from the book, who, as he was dying, confessed.
To having participated in the moon landing fraud, which was filmed at Cannon Air Force Base June 1st, 2nd and 3rd of 1968.
It's not in the book because his son was still alive, but I now disclose he also confessed to killing a co-worker to cover it up who was going to tell a reporter because he thought it was morally wrong what they were doing.
He stood beside President Johnson.
Who was there, out of curiosity, the first of three days of filming, who gave him a list of 15 people who were allowed in to eyewitness this.
Neil Armstrong's on the list.
Buzz Aldrin is on the list.
They weren't even in the spacesuits.
They had doubles.
And there's Von Braun is on the list.
And James Van Allen is on the list.
Eugene Krantz is on the list.
And some people I've never heard of, including a science fiction writer.
What about Robert Emenegger?
Robert Emanager.
I had to look him up.
Robert Emanager is a deep state civilian who spent his whole life saying the moon landings are real and so are aliens.
Just like Edgar Mitchell, who said his whole life that the moon landings are real and so are aliens.
And this poor guy, Stephen Greer, who I believe is sincere, but sincerely wrong, his number one proof that aliens are real.
As the Apollo astronauts told them so.
And I'm like, oh my goodness.
And he thinks the moon landings are real.
So if he cannot tell that shadows intersecting at 90 degrees from objects 5 feet apart proves it was lit by electrical light, I certainly wouldn't trust his opinion about aliens.
Not to mention, his number one source are the very same people who lied about the moon landing.
So I just came out with another book about aliens, what they really are, what they're really from.
And that book is a little bit further down at sabrell.com, which is also in audio.
It's a much shorter book.
I think it's a three-hour recording and about 40% as long as Moon Man.
But, you know, UFOs are real.
But the two top researchers said, though they are real, they're not from outer space.
They're from Earth.
How about that?
They're constantly coming out of the ocean, right?
They're from Earth.
And they've been here all along.
And apparently, our world leaders are affiliated with them.
And we talk about this in the book as well.
So, here we are.
That's my introduction, Coop.
Thanks for the time.
Back to you.
Hey, that was great.
I thought you were just going to go on.
I'll sit back and I will just listen.
I could, but you know, I've got to let you talk some.
Everything you said there was amazing.
There was one thing I wanted to mention.
There was another picture of the, it was like a reflection in one of the astronauts' helmets and it was showing something that shouldn't have been there.
Like the astronaut, was it Armstrong was taking pictures or something?
There was a certain reflection.
No, I think that one, that was someone discovered after my film came out.
You know, it's out there somewhere.
I think it's from like an Apollo.
15 or 16 picture of a visor.
And in the visor is a reflection, allegedly, of the astronaut, only two on the surface at a time, who's taking the picture.
Someone scanned it, did a very high-resolution blow-up of the visor, and the person in the visor, that from a distance, looks like a white space suit.
When you zoom in, it's just a hazmat suit.
Oh, that's what it was.
They took a little shortcut there, and you can tell it's like this, you know, white drape with shoulder drapes on it, and it's not a rounded hood.
It's more a little bit on the rectangular side.
You know, there's so many proofs that they didn't go to the moon.
Those are the four main ones.
You can't have a greater technology in the past and in the future.
It's not possible.
There's never been a time where a milestone was done in the past that can't be done today.
Think about it.
Can you split the atom today?
Of course you can.
Ten years after the first atomic bomb, atomic bombs were 1,000 times more powerful, right?
Hey, Edison lit the light bulb.
Can you light a light bulb today?
Yeah, they last, you know, 50,000 years in their LED.
Breaking the sound barrier.
You can go four or five times the sound barrier now.
You see, so if they could go to the moon...
With 1960s technology, we would have been on Mars 10 years later.
We'd be in another solar system by now, and there'd be bases all over the moon.
So, you know, that's why there's mannequins orbiting the moon, if in fact they even orbited the moon.
They're sending mannequins to do it.
That's one of the clips at sabrell.com.
You can see for free.
NASA's own engineer.
Reminding people or telling people for the first time there's this thick radiation field above the Earth that every manned mission has been below.
Except going to the moon, you'd have to go through it.
And he says it's dangerous radiation, meaning deadly.
And he says the technology for an astronaut to go through it and survive has not been invented yet.
Okay, so how did they go to the moon?
You know, and then I talk about this in the book, how I contacted NASA to talk to the guy.
They won't let him talk to reporters after that mistake.
And they sent up an unmanned probe into this radiation field with two Geiger counters.
I'm like, okay, you know, it's a civilian NASA project.
May I please have those Geiger counter readings?
And they said it's a military secret.
And I'm like, I'm confused here.
When you sent probes to the sun to find out the sun's temperature, the temperature of the sun is in a military secret.
When you send a probe to Jupiter to find out how much helium is in Jupiter's atmosphere, the amount of helium in Jupiter's atmosphere isn't a military secret.
So why would a part of nature, like the temperature outside, the amount of radiation in the radiation belt that the astronauts would have to go through to the moon, why are the Geiger counter readings of that radiation a military secret?
Because if they release them before they doctored them up...
Then it would prove how dangerous it is.
From my research, which is really out of Von Braun's mouth, out of the American Scientific Journal of 1958, and of probes they sent up at the time, which I have video clips of in my book, it's 100 times a lethal dose.
Unbelievable. And so the idea that, you know, I talked to one scientist, here's the logic they use, because the moon landing is a god.
To some people in the, quote, scientific community.
And they said, well, they know for a fact that the radiation belts aren't lethal.
And I said, well, how do you know that?
He says, well, because the astronauts went through it to the moon and back.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Proof! Unless they faked it because they're lethal.
Okay. So anyway, what can you do?
I don't know if you're a believer in God there, Coop, but...
There's something spiritual about this.
When you consider that mankind's greatest accomplishment is putting a man on the moon, and it's a complete fraud.
So my film, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, the one financed by someone who builds rockets for NASA, who knows the moon landing is fake, it opens up with the Tower of Babel, which until a couple hundred years ago, the Height of technology was simply architecture.
How tall could you build a building without it collapsing on itself?
And that race is still going on today.
Saudi Arabia or Dubai or, you know, Tokyo, they're trying to build a building, you know, 111 stories tall, you know, or 112, right?
And of course, it says in the Bible that the only reason they built it was to show off, to boast.
And it was never finished.
Highly significant there.
Then, centuries go by, they build the largest machine of the technological age.
Radio had just been invented.
Telephones had just been invented.
The light bulb had just been invented.
And they build this huge machine called the Titanic.
And they say in publicity, the ship that God himself could not sink.
And that, like the Tower of Babel, never finished.
Never made one voyage.
And then Richard Nixon, who didn't even show up for the launch.
Can you imagine the president of Germany and Japan are at the launch?
But not the President of the United States because he knew it was fake.
And who knew you could get away with it?
What if he got caught and there was that picture of you grinning with Neil Armstrong shaking his hand right before he boards the rocket to pretend to go to the moon?
He literally distanced himself from it.
And yet he had the audacity to say in an alleged telephone call from the Oval Office to the moon that putting a man on the moon It's the greatest event since God made the universe.
You see the blasphemy there?
The ship that got him can't sink.
The tower to reach the heavens that was never completed.
So this is very symbolic.
And then it's done by the nation that most immigrants want to go to because it's the glorious, freedom-loving, allegedly, democracy.
It's not.
That's another lie, too, because 90% of Americans wanted GMO labeling, and the president vetoed it.
Yeah, Obama.
So we have a dictatorship.
No, I'm not mentioning any names, but...
I will.
Obama shot that down.
Yeah, you will.
Yeah. So, I mean, 90% of Americans just want to know, I mean...
Think about this, Coop.
The most dangerous thing we do on a regular basis isn't driving a car, although that's probably the second most dangerous thing.
It's swallowing two pounds of food a day.
You know, that's highly dangerous.
And we're trusting these things in the supermarket.
We want to know what the ingredients are.
And hey, you know, this is a new technology.
Can you please let me know if that's in there in case I...
Would rather not have genetically modified food in me, which happens to be condemned in the Bible, Leviticus 19.19.
Don't crossbreed species.
Don't take a clean fish salmon and put an unclean eel into its DNA, because then you're eating unclean food that looks like clean food, doesn't it?
How clever is that?
And they have rabbis endorsing that.
The rabbi I know...
Won't even step foot in a restaurant that has pork anywhere in it.
He eats in Indian restaurants that are all vegetarian.
Anyway, so we can't even know.
90% of Americans said we want to know.
Contains GMOs.
It was vetoed.
And then we have this two-party system, which means to control the government.
You only need to control two organizations.
Just ask Ron Paul or Bernie Sanders if they get a fair shake, because Bernie Sanders got twice as many votes as Clinton and got half as many delegates.
Now, I don't know how that's legal, but they claim it's legal because the Democratic Party is a private club.
But then they're using voting machines that are funded by taxpayers and the voting commissions, which are taxpayer-funded.
And when someone leaked out that they're rigging the votes against Bernie Sanders in favor of Clinton, instead of the FBI investigating the vote rigging,
they investigated the person who leaked the information.
That's how corrupt our country is.
So we have Bobby Kennedy Jr.
Who has more access to the JFK files than Oliver Stone, saying his uncle was killed by the CIA.
I take his expert opinion.
Robert McNamara, defense secretary during the Vietnam War, admitting before he died, 90% of Americans were against entering the Vietnam War.
I got together with the CIA and said we need something like Pearl Harbor because before Pearl Harbor, 90% of Americans were against entering World War II.
After Pearl Harbor, 90% wanted to get even.
Can you imagine?
So they contrived a fake attack by a North Vietnamese ship on an American ship.
He said before he died, it never happened at all.
They passed a law.
Congress passed a law called the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution to start the war.
Completely based on a fabrication of the CIA.
So I think if they're willing to kill their own duly elected president and willing to kill 58,220 of their own soldiers without reason, I don't think they have a problem faking a video image.
You see that?
It's like people think it's too sacred of a thing.
They won't do that.
They're murdering people.
They're murdering people.
What is it to fake an image, right?
I mean, come on.
People are so in love with the glory and the pride of putting a man on the moon, they won't wake up and smell the manure, which they need to do.
So, what can you do?
What can you do?
Thanks for my second rant.
You know, I love your rants because it's covering everything that I am stoked you're covering this.
The listeners are going to love it.
And it reminded me of when, after 9-11 happened, Condoleezza Rice goes out and she says...
The government could never think about flying two planes into the World Trade Center.
We could never come up with that idea, despite on that same day the government was having that drill of flying planes into buildings.
So therefore the government had designed that idea and were enacting that idea on the same day that Condoleezza Rice said they could never come up with that idea.
It's crazy.
What's crazier is that the media doesn't investigate that.
They deliberately cover that up.
And are the mouthpiece of the murderers who did 9-11.
I mean, it blew my mind a couple of years ago.
I'm talking to a guy in the military, okay?
And I said, well, what do you think about Building 7, the third skyscraper that fell on 9-11?
And he says, what's that?
Oh, man.
Can you imagine?
You have three buildings collapsing on that day, and he doesn't know about the third one because the third one is proof that the thing's a scam.
And somehow they control the media in such a way that a person in the military following current events has never heard about the 47-story building that collapsed from a furniture fire.
That never happened in the history of the world either.
On the same day, a few blocks away.
Yeah. 80 core columns.
80 core columns simultaneously fall.
What's that?
I said 80 core columns simultaneously fall.
And even NIST admits that this Building 7, it did fall at free fall speed for at least two and a half seconds.
What I like is that they did an animation proving that it was caused by a furniture fire.
Isn't that amazing?
I have an animation of Daffy Duck walking on a cloud, too.
It's pretty convincing.
And so they have animation of the lunar lander landing on the moon during the, quote, live landing.
Okay, so if you're really going to the moon, what I would do is I would have a video camera mounted on the side of the rocket, and you could turn on the TV 24-7 and watch the moon getting closer and closer and closer and watch the landing in real time.
They landed on the side facing the Earth.
If the Earth's rotating and the U.S. is on the other side, they can have Spain do it and transmit it to the United States.
So how come they didn't have a live landing?
They literally showed an Atari graphic of the lander coming down while we're hearing audio.
Well, if we can hear the audio, that's a radio signal.
Video's a radio signal, too.
I mean, we don't see the problem.
You know?
And then we have Gilligan's Island, Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie, swapping from black and white to color in 1965.
You would think the technological greatness of putting a man on the moon, they would have a high-resolution color camera the very first time.
But they didn't.
They had this very grainy black and white image that they deliberately derogated so that people couldn't see that they were in a TV studio at Cannon Air Force Base a year earlier.
I don't know what to do.
I mean, this is our state of things.
When I popped in that tape, Coop, and saw that they really did fake the moon landing, I was just like, oh my gosh, how sad is this?
They really did.
And I was thinking, I wrote this in an email the other day, you know, the moon landing fraud is the poster child of conspiracy theories, is it not?
I think when Susan, what's her name from YouTube, multimillionaire who unplugs my ad revenue, which is a third of my income or two-thirds probably at the time, says, well, we've got to suppress things like people who say the moon landings are fake.
First thing out of her mouth.
We've got to suppress people who say the moon landings are fake.
And so it's like the poster child, the conspiracy theories.
Oh, they faked the moon landing.
It was done in a TV studio.
And they did fake the moon landing, and they did film it in a TV studio made out of two airplane hangers at the Cannon Air Force Base, coming to an eyewitness who confessed he murdered somebody to cover it up as he's dying, which I don't think you're going to make up.
Not only an eyewitness, but videos and photos have come out showing the actual stage with all the lights around it.
Stuff's coming out.
And like you said, it's still the one conspiracy that is covered up and everyone just tries to bury this constantly.
This is like flat Earth.
Well, I don't know anything about that.
I think the Earth is a sphere and that's a way to discredit people who know that the moon landings are fake.
I've traveled halfway around the world.
They say you're a filmmaker.
What's your most famous film?
A funny thing happened.
What's that about?
The moon landing fraud.
Immediately next, you think the Earth is flat.
So every time people say the moon landing is fake, they try to associate it with the Earth is flat, which I think is a distraction psyop.
And even if the Earth were flat, which I don't believe, it's irrelevant.
It's not about the shape of the Earth.
The Earth could be a triangle.
It's about the corruption in the federal government.
Agreed. That's the issue.
And if you dig deeper, right, you know, I was thinking today, you know, sharing about God with somebody who's not a believer.
And it's like people who don't believe in God think that this world that we see is all that there is.
And my mental response to them as I'm planning a future debate with them is that's kind of shallow, isn't it?
I mean, think about that.
If you think all that there is is what you see, then that's shallow.
What about the electron?
What about the atom?
What about the God particle?
What about the DNA?
What about before the Big Bang?
Right? I mean, the Bible says what is seen is temporary and what is unseen is eternal.
So if there is a spiritual realm, and I believe there is, it's ironic that the alleged most powerful greatest nation on earth is the perpetrator of the biggest lie.
Right? And now we know why world leaders lie and they're so careful about who ascends to the throne of every country and put out, push out anybody who tries to tell the truth about anything.
And the moon landing fraud is unique, even though it killed fewer people than even the Kennedy assassination witness list, or 9-11, of course.
It's the one that I call the linchpin, the finger out of the dike, that if the truth came out...
It would bring down the system because people would be enraged.
The NBC News director, who first agreed that the tape I uncovered proved the moon landing fraud, refused to broadcast it for fear it would cause a civil war.
And I'm like, okay, let me get this straight.
So if we show the public how corrupt the federal government is, it'll bring down the corrupt federal government?
Isn't that what's supposed to happen?
That's what we need.
What he said was, I do not want to go down in history as the man who caused the next civil war.
He would have been hailed as a hero.
Well, you know, it's sad that that's the case.
Then 10 years later, a new NBC News director flew me to New York, put me up in the Waldorf Astoria, paid me thousands of dollars for the exclusive license, and they were going to break the story nationwide until the federal government called them and threatened them.
And they backed down and pulled the plug on the project.
So this is the way that it is.
Maybe the truth will come out.
I don't know.
It's going to take, it looks like divine intervention because the people, wicked people around the world are getting better every day.
Everything improves over time.
You know what I mean?
I just looked at solar panels at the hardware store.
They went down 20%.
In a week.
You know, everything's getting better and cheaper, and so is evil.
Evil is getting more refined.
The people who control the governments of the world are pushing out more people, even at the local level, and they got everything under control to the best of their ability, and anyone who doesn't play ball, they take down.
I spoke with someone running for Congress who was winning, and I forgot what state he was from, and he said, The Democratic Party called him up and don't think it's any different than a Republican, just one example.
And they said, hey, we're going to support you.
You're going to win.
We'll make sure that you win.
All you got to do is do this one thing for us.
You know, vote for this or don't vote for that or whatever it was.
And he said, no.
The next day, his house is raided by the police who find drugs.
Who obviously planted the drugs.
And then they run stories about it and get people to bail on his campaign.
That's what they do.
That's at the local level, right?
And don't think the CEOs of big companies aren't under their control either because Walmart and Whole Foods or Chick-fil-A, all those people are extremely influential.
I wrote a story once when, what was it?
Chipotle? Was that the name of the place?
Chipotle? Chipotle, the alleged Mexican cafeteria restaurant.
They made an announcement 10 years ago.
They said, no more GMOs.
We're going to be GMO free.
A few days later, a few days later, Multiple stores throughout the country reported Ebola or salmonella or some, you know, infection.
And hundreds of people, hundreds of customers got sick, right?
And they went into, I mean, it was like, I don't know, 20 stores, various places throughout the country.
And they went in, and in each store, they tested over 3,000 surfaces.
You know, like this spoon, this countertop.
A centimeter away on the countertop, this bowl, this tile in the bathroom, this ceiling, this table, this doorknob.
And in all those stores, 20 times 3,000, they didn't find one trace of that particular bacteria.
And interestingly enough, not a single employee who eats the same food got sick.
Isn't that interesting?
If you've ever worked for these places, what they tell you is don't park near the door.
That's for customers.
Park far away.
So in my mind, someone who's pro-GMO, some big multi-billion dollar corporation, went around.
And sprayed that bacteria on the door handles of customers in the parking lot.
And that's why there's not a single trace of it in any store.
And why employees who ate the same food never got sick.
Now this is just for money.
This is just to make sure people aren't afraid of GMOs.
Because you have this chain that is highly popular.
Their stock is shooting up.
They've got over 500 locations throughout the country.
And they just said, GMOs are probably not good for you.
And then the GMO company, right, went out and did that.
So if that's what they're doing in the restaurant world, imagine what they're doing to suppress things about the moon landing fraud and whatever else.
So the book, I go into this for the first time, the difficulties I had.
Proving the moon landing is fake because I had a videotape that everyone who saw it, including my critics, agree.
It's them faking being halfway to the moon.
My critics agree.
This is the crew of Apollo 11 faking being halfway to the moon.
So why would they fake any part of the photography if they really went, right?
My critics agree.
And so when I found that tape, as you know from the book, I had all this difficulty.
Yeah, I would say quite a difficulty, yes.
Yeah, and so it is what it is.
I figured the book was kind of my final statement on the matter.
Historically, I'd rather produce feature films.
I'm trying to get a feature film produced.
Nice. The actor Ron Perlman wants to star in it and produce it.
Dude, hell yeah.
And we're just looking for some rich $5 million air.
We can find them.
Then I promise I will never talk about the moon landing product again.
Oh, man.
You're going to have so many people out there.
He's promising.
He's promising if we do this.
He won't talk about the moon landings again.
Yeah, why would I?
I mean, I'd much rather make fictional feature films.
Well, let's talk about some of the ways that the NASA and the government has tried to cover this up from day one.
If you want to talk about Gus Grissom and Edward White and Roger Chaffee.
In the Apollo 1 travesty, that would be awesome.
Yeah, when I did the film that had a million-dollar budget, if you include Astronauts Gone Wild, the follow-up film, I had a lot of information that we uncovered, some of which we purchased from the widows of deceased Apollo astronauts.
We purchased their private papers, sometimes $10,000 per document.
This helped them pay their bills and we got one-of-a-kind information.
And I interviewed several people who asked me not to disclose the information basically until after they died because they were pursuing their own legal course of action through the courts and they didn't want.
Anything interfering with that.
So I respected that.
So in the book, I put information that was not in the film, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, including the summary of my four-hour interview with Betty Grissom, who is the widow of the man who was going to be the first man to walk on the moon until he died in a,
quote, accident.
Basically, he was a whistleblower at NASA.
He was also the most beloved You want the first guy to not only be qualified,
but likable.
You don't want a qualified guy who's a jerk, right?
And so he had this little accident with a Mercury spacecraft, and he told the truth about...
The difficulties he had, and it endeared him to the public because he was a down-to-earth, honest individual.
And he was also complaining to his superiors that based on his inspection of the equipment that he was going to use to allegedly go to the moon, they were 10 years away from going to the moon, not two, in the year of his death,
1967. In fact, Elon Musk just said out of his own mouth, in order to go to the moon, We're going to have to make eight fuel trips first to a space station.
And only after eight fuel trips will we have enough fuel to go to the moon.
And that's with a rocket a few feet taller than the Saturn V rocket.
And then we uncovered publications from Von Braun that said you cannot go to the moon in one rocket.
You're going to need three.
And each one must weigh 800,000 tons.
The Saturn V weighed...
2,500 tons, not 800,000.
And so we find out through these documents that the rocket couldn't even leave Earth orbit.
So one of the things we found out is the chief astronaut, to be first man on the moon, was starting to figure that out, even though he wasn't an engineer.
He was a pilot.
And he was complaining to his congressman and senator because the NASA people wouldn't do anything about it.
He couldn't figure out why.
Are they not fixing this equipment?
It's a short clip and a funny thing happened on the way to the moon at the sabrell.com homepage.
But there's a quick clip of Neil Armstrong in front of reporters pretending to pick up a moon rock, you know, rehearsing what's called the contingency sample.
In case something goes wrong, let us grab at least one rock and come back.
So he has like this pole with a bag on the end of it.
And when he picks up the rock, the bag falls off the end of the pole.
This is six weeks before they go to the moon.
They can't get a pole with a bag on it to work.
You understand?
Not to mention life support systems, batteries, radioactive shielding, rocketry.
You know, so many details had to work in order to not kill the crew.
In fact, there's not a single aviation machine that ever worked the first time in the entire history of the world.
Except the most complicated one.
You know, and NASA has never kept a schedule because they said, and I think 2014, they're going to have men orbiting the moon.
And 2018 and in 2023, you know, almost 100 percent behind schedule, they can only do mannequins.
So Gus Grissom was figuring this out bit by bit that something's not right here.
And when he started complaining over the head.
Of the people at NASA to a senator, they were concerned because they had basically the contingency in place to fake the moon landing, but had not committed to it yet, therefore had not told the astronauts yet.
So he was so frustrated.
His wife, who I interviewed for four hours, said on January.
Well. It was a few weeks before, I don't know the exact date, but a few weeks before he died.
He went to his backyard, he was a bit of a gardener, had some lemon trees, some orange trees, some apple trees, and he picked a lemon, huge.
She said it was the size of a grapefruit, to make a point.
Took a coat hanger, clipped the bottom of it, put the lemon kind of between it, and held an impromptu press conference without permission.
Where he took a bunch of reporters who were continually camped out at NASA during that time to the top of the rocket where he affixed a lemon indicating the thing is a piece of junk.
A few days later, she said, and she knew the date of this one, she said on January 26, 1967, he came home from work a few weeks after the Lemon incident that infuriated his superiors and said, hon, for some strange reason,
the CIA is all over the launch pad today inspecting the equipment.
I've been here for years at NASA.
Never saw the CIA once.
Why is the CIA here?
It's kind of weird.
The very next day, he's dead from faulty equipment.
So his widow says he was killed by the CIA.
Not me.
And his son.
Who's a 747 pilot?
Says he was killed by the CIA.
Not me.
So it'd be one thing if they faked the moon landing and didn't kill anybody.
Maybe it's the devious part of me might kind of respect their ingenuity to a certain degree.
You know, the people who tunnel from the dry cleaner to the bank and get the gold.
Good for them.
But not if they slit the throat of three guards who were husbands and fathers of young children.
You see?
And so what they did was, not my opinion, the opinion of the dead man's relatives.
They murdered the crew that was going to be the first crew to walk in the moon because they wouldn't participate with the fraud.
So we do live in the United States of America.
And whether you accept it or not, it's still a fact that they did fake the moon landing.
And now we know it's also a fact that they murdered at least three people.
And we know of more.
But they murdered the crew who was going to be first on the moon because they wouldn't participate with the fraud.
Now, prior to the Constitution, it's the Declaration of Independence, which says the whole reason this country was founded was because King George became a threat to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
And it says in writing, our first document, our first legal document, because it's signed unanimously.
It says, So we have legal authority to pull the plug on the federal government.
Because what are the three things?
They're a threat to what?
Life. That's the first one.
Our tax dollars, a third of our sweat and stress, is not going to feed our families.
It's going toward faking moon landings and the salaries of CIA agents who are murdering our neighbors to cover it up.
That's what we're paying for.
Our government has become destructive of life.
They're killing their own people.
Go to Line Wikipedia.
And it says that the Gulf of Tonkin incident didn't happen.
They passed a law to start a war that killed 58,220 of our people without reason.
We lost the war anyway.
So we just threw away 58,000 lives, 220 lives, for a fabrication.
Wikipedia even admits it.
You see?
That's the people who are running the show.
They killed the crew of Apollo 1 to cover up the moon landing fraud, and they're still at large.
We don't live in a community that once a month, a child just disappears, and it's been going on for 30 years.
Oh, well, just one of those things.
800,000.
You do something about it.
You put an end to it.
I mean, it boggles the mind.
Half a million, half a million, 500,000 children disappear.
Every 12 months in the United States of America without a trace.
I don't remember that ever being reported in the evening news.
I do remember the president getting a new cat being reported in the evening news.
Oh, yay!
So, our media is completely corrupt, completely controlled by the CIA, because one of the links of my book at sabrell.com is Dan Rather.
Describing for the viewers, because they didn't show it, there's a Bruder film, and he says the third final shot, the president's head goes violently forward.
When the video, synchronized with it, shows it going violently backwards.
He says the exact opposite of the truth in 1963.
Imagine what they're doing now.
And do we just say, oh well, I think the last time this was happening, we started a new country.
I don't.
I think the problem is there weren't cell phones and tablets back in 1776.
So people had more free time and sobriety of mind to be aware of the atrocities going on around them.
And now we don't.
Now we're hypnotized literally.
Let me ask you a question.
Because we had Gus Grissom's family say, yeah, the CIA definitely killed them.
But do we have any information from, what are the names?
Edward White.
Roger White and Ed Chaffee?
Yeah. The documents that we bought were from Roger White's widow.
That's where we got the Apollo 1 fire report, which they cleverly renamed something like Apollo 201.
So that technically it wasn't classified.
But if you look for it in the archives, you can't find it because you're looking for Apollo 1. And they renamed it like Apollo 201.
Pretty clever.
Ridiculous. I used to do the same thing to get an unlisted number without having to pay the extra $20 a month.
I would list it as Robert Ziggy, you know, or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How would you like your name listed?
Oh, okay.
So the same effect.
They basically buried the report.
They killed the person who was investigating it, Robert Barron, Ronald Barron.
And it shows, you know, so many problems with Apollo 1 that the administrator of NASA resigned, wouldn't have anything to do with the Apollo project because he knew it was a fraud and didn't want to go down in history as the guy who supervised the fraud.
Apparently, Nazi von Braun didn't have a problem with that, or at least...
He was blackmailed, threatened, whatever.
Oh, yeah, he had to have been.
He had to have been so blackmailed.
Well, yeah, the State Department said had he lived another year or two, he would have probably been thrown into prison for war crimes against humanity during World War II.
Yeah. A little late there.
I think World War II ended in 1945.
So it was 30 years later.
I saw that paperwork again.
Making all that money.
Takes a long time to catch up with you.
We were literally paying for Nazi von Braun to design rockets.
People alive at that time were literally paying a Nazi to build rockets.
That's crazy.
Well, yeah.
And to lie.
And to lie.
Because he originally said...
I mean, I think if 2 plus 2 equals 4...
In 1959, two plus two is going to equal four in 1969.
So he said in the book that I write, I quote him word for word, he says these are mathematical numbers that are irrefutable.
You cannot go to the moon in one rocket.
You can't.
It's impossible.
And you would need three minimum.
Musk can't afford those three rockets because they're too big.
You know, a rocket that weighed ten times the amount of the Queen Mary.
800,000 tons in three of them when the Saturn V was a single rocket, weighed 2,500 tons, not 800,000 tons, a difference of 30,000%.
That somehow he recanted and said, oh, it changed my mind.
The same thing with Van Allen.
Van Allen says that the Van Allen radiation belts are an obstacle to man's spaceflight beyond it.
Said so multiple times in Scientific American articles that he wrote.
And then he's changed his mind and he's on the witness list of the fake moon landing set at Cannon Air Force Base.
What a surprise, you know?
And yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say other than save yourself from this corrupt generation.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's all we can do, man.
If the captain says everything's fine on the Titanic, but they have some lifeboats that are half empty, I would grab one while you can.
Yeah. And you might consider that.
Regarding the USA Titanic, a little advice there.
Before it's too late, get out while you can.
And I think Von Braun said something like, you'd have a 1 in 100,000, a 1 in 10,000 chance to have a successful manned mission to the moon.
A 1 in, I think, 10,000.
Yeah, he said that according to a memo that Bill Kaysing edited.
He said one in 10,000 with 1960s technology.
Virtually you're going to kill the crew on live TV if you try.
Yeah. And like I said, not a single aerospace endeavor ever worked on the first occasion, not even a motorized kite by the Wright brothers.
Exactly. In fact, the 747 was built with 10 years newer technology than Apollo after millions of aircraft had flown across the Atlantic Ocean.
Multiple times.
And it still took 168 attempts to get off the ground.
So crazy.
They built the fuselage that they couldn't get off the ground.
Yeah. And it was a lot smaller than the Saturn V. And they had built jet engines for decades.
And they had to go, I think it was 162.
They had 162 of them they had to go through to get that off the ground.
Right. So they can go to the moon ahead of schedule on the first time?
It's kind of weird, isn't it?
Just build it, build it, build it, connect it up, let's go.
No issues.
And this brings me to Von Braun, since we're talking about Von Braun.
The quote on his gravestone, right?
It said, was it Psalm 19.1, I believe?
And God said, let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters, and God made the firmament.
And divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament, and it was so.
And God called the firmament heaven.
And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Yeah, he didn't have all of that.
He didn't have all of that on his tombstone.
No, no, it was just the heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth his handiwork.
Yeah, if the Bible is accurate, and I believe that it is, and it's also metaphorical as well, because Solomon said, your eyes are diamonds, your lips are rubies.
I don't think his fiancée actually had diamond eyes and ruby lips.
So when someone describes the sun moving left to right, that's their description from their point of view.
So it appears if the flood, it says that there had never been rain before, the flood, that there was a tremendous layer of water that surrounded the earth, kind of like a bubble.
And until that moment of the flood, underground springs kept everything green and alive.
And that's what people and animals drink.
And then after the flood, that...
Maybe a meteor went through it.
I'm not sure.
Punctured it.
And that was God's instrument to bring about the flood.
We don't know.
I talk a little bit about this in my new book, Aliens, at sabrell.com.
That's interesting.
So something came, the water was surrounding the earth, and something came through that while I was keeping the water out, and the water just dripped in.
That's what caused the flood.
It didn't drip in.
It poured in.
It poured in.
Yeah. Yeah.
Potentially. You know, like I said, The shape of the Earth is irrelevant.
I think it's a sphere.
I think you can prove that with the shadow.
You know, the length, I think a guy about 2,000 years ago calculated the circumference of the Earth within a couple hundred miles accuracy by measuring the shadow length, the distance between one city and another.
But in any case, it does appear that comets, asteroids, and things like that do happen, have happened, and likely will happen again, possibly before the 2030.
A little inside information there.
And so, yeah, something happened and suddenly there was a flood.
I talk about this in the Alien book that the scripture, I think it's Genesis 3.15, says, I think it's God speaking to Lucifer after he contributed to the fall of man, that he would put war,
God would put war between the seed.
Of Lucifer and the seed of Adam, which always means future offspring.
And so if Genesis 6 is literal, which it probably is, the angels, fallen angels, did breed, create a hybrid that caused a deformity of giantism.
They became men of renown, which means world leaders, and they maintain that bloodline just like the British do.
And one of the links for that, that book has 29 links.
One of which is a genealogical study from a brilliant high school student who went through 500,000 names and found out that all the presidents, except for one at the time of the study, were from the same bloodline.
Yep. So it appears that there are two bloodlines and that aliens might in fact be fallen angels who have been around for thousands of years and therefore can develop zero gravity aircraft that can hide in the oceans.
Which means, just like the top two UFO researchers said, UFOs are real, but they're not from outer space.
They're from Earth.
And if you believe in the Bible, there's a scriptural proof.
That we're the only life in the universe.
In fact, there's a beautiful book that talks about this scientifically, how mathematically life shouldn't exist anywhere.
It would be like the Powerball being won 20 times in a row.
Revelation 21:3 says that when God makes the new heaven and new earth, where sin will no longer reign, He will personally dwell with us.
So it says three or four times in the Bible that God does not show partiality.
So if he's dwelling with us, former sinners, and there's life elsewhere, then he's showing partiality, which he can't do because that's not who he is.
So the only way he could dwell with us and not show partiality is if we're it.
And isn't it interesting?
The government wants us to believe the exact opposite of the truth.
You see?
They want us to believe the moonlettings are real when they're false.
The number one source of Stephen Greer that aliens are real are the lying Apollo astronauts.
They really want us to believe in aliens, which to me is an indication that they're not true.
That they want to use it as a deceptive.
These creatures apparently have been here all along.
And then my book, which is called Aliens from Planet X, If rogue planets are true, and it appears that they are, if a rogue planet, though dead, appears near the Earth in the near future, they can falsely claim, like a magician's misdirection,
that they came from this world.
And that's why they're suddenly appearing, even though they've been here all along.
What a surprise!
They're a bunch of liars, right?
And then it gets worse.
The program Ancient Aliens, which had to admit...
That all humans came from one woman, just like the Bible says because of a DNA study that proved that all humans who ever lived, ever will live, and are alive today all came from a single woman and no one before her.
They said, okay, well, how can that be true and there not be a God?
So they came up with this idea that we were made by aliens.
Well, Isaiah says Lucifer wanted to take the place of God, and if they're saying we were made by aliens, And aliens are really fallen angels, which are led by Lucifer.
What they're really saying is mankind was made by Lucifer instead of God.
And one of the links of this book are the World Economic Forum logo, the people who run the world, who boast that they avoid world leaders.
Horrible logo.
Yeah, and there's three sixes right there in the logo, hidden in plain sight, the half circle going through the three O's in World Economic and Forum.
They literally worship Lucifer.
I don't think these people are stupid, seeing how they run the world so successfully.
So would they worship something that did not exist?
I don't think so.
They forget he's the father of lies and that he'll lie to his number two to live one second longer.
That they forgot.
So it's amazing, isn't it?
See, I think this whole thing is very spiritual.
We are a spiritual creature.
I just feel that the people in power are from this lineage, this bloodline.
They keep all these same people.
And there is some evil, evilness in that bloodline.
And it's like, why can't we get above that?
Why can't we as the people rise above this?
Are they that evil that we cannot get above this?
Well, I mean...
Maybe someday I'll do it again.
There was a time in my youth I did 300 push-ups a day.
And maybe, God willing, I'll go back to that.
10 sets of 30 in a single every day.
But am I going to do 300 push-ups today?
Probably not.
Could I technically do it?
Yes, I could.
I could do 30 sets of 10 probably in the next 24 hours.
I'm sure I could.
But will I?
Probably not.
But the point is, technically I could.
And technically, people can set the federal government and the world governments correct with their effort.
The problem is they're spending as much time watching television as they are at work every week.
Yes. Yes.
And with sleep and saying hello to the family and going to the dry cleaner and getting your
And they want everyone else.
They're like, oh, other people will fix the problem.
I don't know what to do.
Other people do.
Yeah, so when Jesus said about the last days, it'll get so bad that unless God intervenes, no one will survive.
My interpretation of that is that the evil people are going to win.
And so be it.
What good is it to gain the whole world and forfeit your soul?
So they're going to gain the world and not be in eternal life.
And that's sad.
That's why Jesus said...
To love your enemies, right?
If we love our enemies, we don't hate these people who are running the world and doing these wicked things.
We should feel sorry for them.
They were children once.
They were pure once.
And somebody corrupted them, their parents, the world, the devil, evil, something.
And all have sinned.
And fall short of the glory of God.
Don't think we're any better.
I only kill one person a day and they killed 200 a day.
I'm righteous.
No, that's not the case.
And so ye without sin cast the first stone.
So rather than shouting at people at the Bilderberg group what wicked people they are, we need to compel them to turn to God and give glory to God because otherwise they won't make it into eternal life.
For some reason, they believe their lying leader.
That somehow he's going to lie to everybody else but tell them the truth?
I don't think so.
And I talk about this in the book.
I give this example, and then we'll wrap it up.
But I remember seeing a story on the news 20 years ago or so about this couple that got married.
And the guy, ever since he was a teenager, had this boa constrictor that, as you know, keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
The wife wasn't thrilled about it.
You know, the guy, she didn't want to ask him to throw away a snake he's had for 15 years.
It's now 8 feet long or however long it was, right?
So she said, okay, whatever.
And then they ended up having a baby.
And, you know, there's a picture of like the three of them sitting on the sofa with the snake in their lap and the baby sitting on top of the snake, petting the snake's head.
And I petted a boa constrictor's head.
It can get accustomed to being around people.
And then one day they come home.
And the snake has their toddler's leg down its throat.
You see, a reptile cannot have compassion any more than if I jump off my roof and flap my arms, I'll get airborne.
It can't happen.
And so these people, whoever they are who run the world, who worship Lucifer, they should consider that.
That he will eat his number two.
To live one second longer.
And don't believe the father of lies.
He lied to his own, right?
So, I don't know what else to say other than what can you do?
They did fake the moon landing.
It's the epitome of the fall of man.
And it's really sad that you have people defending it.
And that's pretty sad.
And people in the government who know better.
Don't come forward.
If I may hate to criticize a guy who's not here to defend himself, but Eisenhower's famous farewell warning, oh, by the way, the corrupt people in the government are taking it over.
Good luck.
Funny, he didn't do anything about it for the eight years he was president.
Isn't that interesting?
He just helped it along.
He wanted to retire and hang out with his grandchildren.
So, he...
Made that decision at the cost of two, now 330 million people.
Now we're suffering because he was selfish.
And what he should have considered is that he's going to die anyway.
And that our founding fathers and mothers said that's enough.
We're willing to die.
And we're going to die anyway.
You see, that's what we have to understand.
I turned down this project of making this movie for fear it might be true and it could be dangerous.
I turned it down.
I said, I'm not going to risk my life for what Nixon did.
Then I started reading the Bible, developing a convention of right and wrong, and the logic of a judgment after this life.
And I realized that the faking of the moon landing, if true, and it is.
It's more profound than if they had actually gone.
You see that?
Either they planted a flag, came back, even though they can't do it 50 years later.
Oh, that was a close one, wasn't that grand?
Or the greatest nation on earth embezzled money, murdered people to cover it up, held ticker tape parades, and gave them medals of honor for being such good liars.
If that's true, that's so much more profound than if they had actually gone.
And it is true.
So we have one of these greatest events in human history is the faking of the moon landing, which is still not publicly known or admitted.
That's the world we live in.
That is profound.
I changed my mind.
I realized I'm going to die anyway.
I might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
And it is worth dying for because these people, what they're doing is wrong.
And I'm going to die anyway.
And I'm going to face...
Judgment based on living a life out of faith or out of fear.
And do not fear is in the Bible 365 times, one for every day of the year.
And if you read, I think it's Revelation 21, it lists one last time, I think it's about the 400th time, the type of behavior that will forbid you from entering the kingdom of heaven.
Sexual immorality.
That's a big one.
Right? Lying, stealing, drunkenness, whatever.
But first on the list is the cowardly.
The cowardly will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
You see, we have to be willing to lay down our lives.
And the problem is our education system is training people to not believe in God.
Therefore, the only thing that they have is this life, their house, their car.
They're a yard.
They're a lawnmower.
And I could report this crime that I've seen in the federal government as an employee.
But then I might lose my house and my car and my lawnmower.
So I better not.
Well, you're going to lose it anyway when you die.
Exactly. And even if there is no God, which there is, you're still going to be remembered through history.
By living a life of cowardice and selfishness.
Or dying for your friends and family and for the sake of what is right.
And that's what it boils down to.
Jesus said that he was not sent to the pagans or the Gentiles.
He says, I was sent to the lost sheep of Israel.
Which means every word that he said was spoken to believers in the church.
And to them he said, Wide is the gate, broad is the road.
Most go to destruction.
Narrow is the way to life, and only a few find it.
And in Matthew 24, because of the increase of wickedness, what used to become evil now being called good, the love of most believers will grow gold.
But only he who holds to the end, which is through repentance, shall be saved.
So it took one out of 150 million sperm for everyone to get this far.
Is it cruel for God to throw away 149,999 sperm and only keep one?
Kind of sounds cruel, doesn't it?
It's God's world, not mine.
That's how special being here is.
How many are going to make it into eternal life?
Evil and sin, the Bible promises, is not going to happen again in the new world.
He's not going to let evil, unrepentant people live forever.
Right? You either live forever or you perish.
Right? And so, how narrow, how many out of 150 million are going to make it next time?
I don't know.
I do know that I participate and qualify.
For the free gift of eternal life by repenting.
Just like you qualify for that Olympic medal by first winning some races, by passing a drug test.
And then when the gun goes off, and if there's, you know, only one person who gets the gold medal, everyone gets a gold medal.
That's a grace.
We don't deserve the gold medal, eternal life, but we also have to qualify for it.
Otherwise, everyone would make it into heaven.
We participate like in a marriage, and our participation is repenting, right?
That's proof that we love God.
This is love for God, to obey the commandments.
It says that multiple times.
I think Acts 5.32 says, The Holy Spirit is given to those who obey Him, right?
We have to participate.
That's our part.
We can obey all we want.
We can repent all we want.
And we still won't make it into heaven without God's grace.
However, we can't make it into heaven without repenting.
It's very clear.
Jesus said, repent or perish.
Right? What about these people who, you know, these elite who go and murder someone and go, I repent.
I repent, God.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
And then go back the next day, do some more dirty deeds.
And at the end of the day, I repent.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
What about that type of person?
So, the Bible says that if your brother sins against you 77 times in a single day and says, repent sincerely every time you are to forgive him.
I don't know about you, but I've had bad habits that took me a lot of times quitting to overcome.
As long as the repentance is sincere, then God knows if it's sincere or not.
Right. And God says that we should forgive each other 77 times in a day if we're sincere.
Some people are plagued with smoking or alcoholism or whatever their demon is, and it may take them multiple times of throwing their drugs away before they finally get it and repent.
The main thing is, and I don't know how narrow the line is, but to die in a repentant state.
Right? That's the critical thing, and that's why Jesus says we have to be faithful to the very end to be saved.
We can't just, you know, be baptized and think it's a get-out-of-jail-free card, right?
It's not.
Hebrews 10 says, if we deliberately go on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sin is left, only a fearful expectation of judgment and a consuming fire for the enemies of God.
Oh, man.
There you go.
Oh, man.
I'm doing my best.
I repent every day.
All the time.
Non-stop.
That's my job.
Like yesterday, I picked up a bunch of trash in the river because there's trash everywhere.
And I'm like, I can't float this and let that sit there.
Well, you know, you've heard the saying, leave the place as you found it.
I went to a seminar once.
They said, that's not good enough.
Leave the place better.
Yeah. Than when you found it.
And when I'm thinking spiritually, and that's not too often, but, you know, pick up one piece of trash, return one shopping cart that someone left.
Exactly. I had a Bible talk leader who, I was in his group, and he said, what if we're judged on the little things?
Whether we put back the shopping cart or just leave it up against somebody's car.
I think he's right.
Jesus said, and I used to have it up here, I think it's Luke.
16 maybe?
I have to double check, but basically he says if we're...
Irresponsible in the little things will be irresponsible in the big things.
And if we're responsible in the little, we'll be responsible in the big.
Yeah, like with the shopping carts.
When I see someone leaving, I'm like, why?
And I'll just go over there and I will put it into the spot where it's right next to that person's car.
And it's like, why can't you just put the shopping cart in?
Well, because they're hypnotized.
It's just crazy.
They are living their life in a hypnotized state of selfishness.
There's a magazine called Self, right?
There's a popular song, you know, Love Yourself First, right?
Well, didn't Jesus say, deny yourself?
That's kind of the opposite, isn't it?
So, there's only one time the Bible says to be selfish, and that's in taking hold of salvation.
Save yourself from this corrupt generation.
And in order to help other people, we have to get right with God ourselves.
That's the only time selfishness is encouraged in the Bible.
And really, it boils down to whether we're selfish or unselfish.
That's what it boils down to.
Every decision is based on that.
The leaving the shopping cart is selfish.
Putting it back is being unselfish, thinking about other people.
And they're in this hypnotized state.
Now, whether that state has hardened their heart beyond repentance, it's possible.
When you hear a college professor teaching aerospace say that even if Neil Armstrong confessed on national TV the moon landings are fake, that he would still think he walked on the moon anyway, that's pretty far gone.
So I don't know.
Save yourself.
They did fake the moon landing.
It is spiritually symbolic.
You can go to sabrell.com and watch if anything happened on the way to the moon.
It has a lot of spiritual symbolism in it.
It is.
It's mankind's greatest accomplishment.
The world is run by Lucifer, who's a liar.
And our greatest accomplishment is a lie done by the most powerful nation on earth, which is probably the second beast of Revelation 13. And that is the case.
And if you don't believe in God, they still fake the moon landing.
And these are your leaders.
They're murdering liars and embezzlers.
Do you want to do something about it or not?
So, there we go.
I definitely do.
I definitely want to do something about it.
That's why I try to cover all these government conspiracies.
True, this is what they are.
Well, one last thing I want to touch on, if you have any time, is the, well, not only the Don Pettit.
Telling you like, oh, we had all that technology to get to the moon, but we destroyed it.
And it's been a painful process to get it back.
Well, let's talk about the Van Allen belts.
So where is the space station?
It's only about 100 miles above the Earth's atmosphere, right?
Far below the Van Ellen Belt, right?
Well, yeah, I've got to go soon, but it's at about 250 miles, and the radiation belt, the strongest part, starts about 1,000 miles up.
So it's a good 750 miles below that.
They went up about another 100.
15 miles one time and they had to descend to a lower altitude.
So they were like 650 miles away from the radiation and it was too close that when they closed their eyes they could see the radiation as sparks of light hitting the retinas of their closed eyes.
So if you can imagine there's a meltdown of a nuclear power plant 650 miles from you and if you face that direction and close your eyes you see the radiation.
Hitting your eyes like fireworks.
I'd say that's pretty strong radiation.
And so that's why Kelly Smith said the technology to go through that radiation has not been invented yet, one of the clips there.
And then, of course, the other clip you brought up, which is part of the book, is them admitting they destroyed the technology, which has never been done in the history of the world.
There's never been a technology like breaking the sound barrier or the first light bulb that afterwards they smashed the light bulb and...
Demolish the plane that broke the sound barrier.
They should have done that maybe with the atomic bomb.
If it genuinely helped end World War II, they could have scrapped it and made an international treaty.
We'll never use those ever again.
But did they do that?
No. And like I said, 10 years later, they're 1,000 times more powerful.
So if you really went to the moon spending, now I believe it's $250 billion.
A quarter of a trillion to go to the moon, right?
And of course, they embezzled most of that.
The last thing you would do is destroy the equipment.
But they admit out of their own mouth, they destroy the hardware, the schematics, the blueprints, the original data, telemetry data where the rocket was, and the original videotapes, which you would never do if you went.
But it's exactly what you would do if you perpetrated a fraud because an engineer could prove that it couldn't, you know, protect you from radiation or have enough fuel to go to the moon or not enough battery power on the moon's surface to combat against 250 degrees Fahrenheit.
So that's, you know, incidental proof that they didn't go because if they really went, they wouldn't do that.
And if they did a fraud, that is exactly what they do, right?
Did they explain why they destroyed everything?
No. Was there a reason?
No, they never gave one because there isn't one.
The reason is because they were covering their tracks.
Because an engineer could prove that the lunar module on a bunch of car batteries can't compete against 250 degrees outside for three days.
And that tiny little engine didn't have enough fuel to accelerate to 3,000 miles per hour and synchronize.
And the computer electronics didn't have the speed.
To synchronize something going from zero to three thousand miles per hour without missing each other by, you know, a mile or more and therefore killing the people coming up from the moon.
And of course, the rocket didn't have enough fuel either, because for some reason to go to the moon today, they need eight fuel trips first.
Right. Why did they have a more efficient rocket in the past?
I thought things became more efficient over time.
If people have an open mind, willing to be wrong, willing to give up this fake sense of pride and glory, pride prevents you from seeing the truth.
That's what it does.
And they did fake the moon landing.
Maybe with God's help and prayer, the truth will come out, and the world will be a better place because of it.
I hope so.
Did you hear, though, I'm sure you've heard this just recently, the United States government or NASA, they want to build a train station or a train on the moon now?
Well... Good luck with that.
Like, instead of sending people like they wanted to do this year, now they're like, you know what, we should scrap that idea.
Now we should just build a train track on it.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
They keep postponing returning to the moon.
Postpone, postpone, postpone, postpone.
I figure they're going to keep postponing it until a comet hits, at which point there's no electricity or drinking water.
People won't care who shot JFK or if the moon landing's real or not.
I think that's their plan.
You know, I just uploaded a video to my YouTube channel.
I think most of it was from 2015.
And they said we're going to, you know, have people orbiting the moon in 2021.
And now that's been postponed to 2026.
You know, so unbelievable.
And it's wild.
It's wild.
It's just wild.
Well, like I said, all this, you can watch all these clips for free at sabrell.com.
I've got to go and get ready for another meeting.
But I wish you well, Coop.
And what can you do?
This is the world we live in.
Save yourself from this corrupt generation.
Absolutely. What's your website again?
Plug whatever you've got for the listeners.
Well, just the books.
The Alien Book and The Moon Book, which are all three, are both in all three formats.
Audio, which I read myself, Kindle, and print.
They're both interactive.
The Moon Book has 17 video links.
And The Alien Book has 29, I guess because it's shorter, to show more supplemental details with that.
All at my last name, S as in Sam, I B as in boy, R-E-L, sabrell.com.
