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April 29, 2024 - ParaNaughtica
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Episode 67. A Discussion with Dr. Peter McCullough

CONTACT ME:Email:        paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter:      @paranaughtica Facebook:    The Paranaughtica PodcastDr. Peter McCullough is widely considered to be among the world's leading experts on COVID-19 and its medical response. He is a cardiologist, an epidemiologist, and also an internist. He holds multiple degrees from Baylor University, University of Texas Southwestern Medical School, University of Michigan, and Southern Methodist University.He has worked very closely with infectious diseases, as well as cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries that have developed after the COVID-19 vaccine. He has published articles and papers on a range of topics in medicine with over 1000 publications and over 685 citations in the National Library of Medicine.  He is also the President of a major medical society and Co-Editor of Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine and is currently serving as the Chair of the National Kidney Foundation’s Kidney Early Evaluation Program (KEEP), the largest community screening effort for chronic diseases in America.Notably, he has testified multiple times in the US Senate, in the European Parliament, the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, the Arizona Senate and the House of Representatives, the Colorado General Assembly, the New Hampshire Senate, the Pennsylvania Senate, and the South Carolina Senate ...which was all about the COVID response and its related issues.....Dr. McCullough has lectured at the New York Academy of Sciences, the National Institutes of Health, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the European Medicines Agency, and the U.S. Congressional Oversight Panel, among many other places.Ladies and gentlemen, here is Dr. Peter McCullough.***If you’d like to help out with a donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on my page and you’ll see a button to help me out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation.  You can also go to the Facebook page where I have a link to Ko-Fi and Pay-Pal if you'd like to help out the show. I would greatly appreciate it!  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Today, I have a very distinguished guest with me.
He's a cardiologist, an epidemiologist, and also an internist.
He holds multiple degrees from Baylor University, University of Texas Southwestern Medical School, University of Michigan, and Southern Methodist University.
He has worked very closely with infectious diseases, as well as cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries that have developed after the COVID-19 vaccine.
He has published articles and papers on a range of topics in medicine, with over 1,000 publications and over 685 citations in the National Library of Medicine.
Huge. And he's currently practicing in Dallas, Texas.
Now, are you also the president of a major medical society and co-editor?
Well, I've held prior positions in my career, and I have for years been a president of a major medical society.
I was editor of two major journals in the past.
In clinical practice here in Dallas, Texas, I'm president of the McCullough Foundation, a leading foundation through the pandemic response, and very active in the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
Awesome. Okay, well, it's an absolute pleasure to have you here today with us.
I can't thank you enough.
Now, something really interesting that I wanted to bring up is that you've testified multiple times in the U.S. Senate, obviously the European Parliament, Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, Arizona Senate.
Colorado General Assembly.
I mean, you've testified in many places about COVID response and its related issues.
You're also considered among the world's leading experts on COVID-19, correct?
Yeah, I have over 70 peer-reviewed papers on COVID-19.
I was the first to publish a method to treat patients early to reduce hospitalization and death.
now the first to publish a method of detoxification after the vaccine.
So now I've been relied upon, you could say three times in the US Senate, the US House
Oh, 100%.
The response was just ridiculous.
Tell me, what's going on with COVID as we know it today?
Like, what's been happening this past few years?
You know, since December of 2021, we've been in the Omicron phase of the pandemic.
That's a long time.
It's basically now all of 2022, 23, and into 2024.
Probably if there were no vaccines, the pandemic would have ended after Delta.
It would have been over within two years.
That would be like Spanish flu.
There were essentially no vaccines, and that's what happened.
But the vaccines kicked in.
The first people who developed Omicron were fully vaccinated, so the Omicron variant escaped the vaccine, and now it infected people who had already been naturally immune and vaccinated and took off.
And it went through multiple subtypes, where it currently was called the JN1 subtype variant, which was a tougher variant for Omicron, one that most of us had gotten.
So as we sit here today, From serologic data, there's blood testing data, about 97% of us have had COVID.
So if we get COVID a second time after this, or third and fourth time, it's progressively milder each time.
So you're saying without the vaccines, just herd immunity would have been the best option.
Like most viral diseases we see today, just herd immunity would have been perfectly fine to just deal with.
It's true.
This probably wouldn't even be an issue anymore, right?
Right. So even if reinfection was possible and it started happening on a wide scale, it wouldn't be like what the vaccines did.
The vaccines, they extended the pandemic and they also, in a sense, weakened immunity.
And so with each shot, which comes in every six months, so someone like me and you, if we're following the government schedule, we'd be on our ninth shot.
Oh, my God.
Immunocompromised 12 shot.
What it does is the body keeps getting these shots.
And it produces very ineffective antibodies called IgG4 antibodies.
So there are measurable antibodies, but they don't do anything.
They don't stop the virus.
And so a key paper is published by Shretha and colleagues from Cleveland Clinic.
And it showed among 51,000 Cleveland Clinic employees, the ones who took no shots, they had the lowest rate of recurrent COVID.
And then with each successive shot, there's a greater and greater chance they keep getting COVID over and over again.
So what are these vaccines doing?
Like, how are they coming up with these vaccines to push all these boosters out every few months, whatever?
Where's the testing involved?
The last several boosters weren't even tested on humans.
So they were just tested on animals.
And since they, you know, created an antibody response for that subvariant in animals, they were pushed onto humans.
Now, for each one of the subvariant vaccines, the BA.4, BA.5 vaccine and the XBB.
1.5 vaccines.
By the time they came out, those strains were already gone.
And plus, their immune systems are getting fatigued.
And so they didn't work in any way.
The only thing that seems to happen with each shot is both the stochastic risk of getting a serious side effect with each one and probably cumulative toxicity because the body's being loaded with foreign genetic code.
The genetic code that's contained in Pfizer and Moderna, they're still on the market.
The genetic code is actually for the lethal part of the virus called the spike protein, which was engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China.
So as we sit here today, people who took the vaccine, they have basically the genetic code for the protein that was engineered in China.
This was what was placed into the mRNA?
Or is this the mRNA issue?
Right. That's what it was.
It was basically...
Sadly, again, those who took the shots, they do have a little bit of Wuhan China in them from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
That's exactly the code that Pfizer and Moderna used over time.
Now, those who took Novavax, Novavax is still on the market.
They just got some purified spike protein and no genetics.
And people wonder, how come they never hear about Novavax?
And what Senator Rand Paul uncovered?
Is that the marketing firm for Pfizer and Moderna, Weber Shandwick, they have an installed marketing unit in the CDC vaccine office in Atlanta.
In fact, the CDC pays them to do marketing.
And so the CDC and FDA, instead of fairly adjudicating the vaccines and safeguarding them, they're actually promoting Pfizer and Moderna.
And they never even mention Novavax.
That's insane.
I know that Pfizer and Moderna, I know Pfizer made, what, $35 billion or something over this whole thing?
Bill Gates had so many shares in BioNTech and then sold them out at the perfect time and then bought a bunch of shares in Pfizer.
So much fishy stuff going on with that.
Graft and corruption seem to be wide open.
But getting back to these choices, now Janssen is off the market.
AstraZeneca is off the market.
They were...
Adenoviral vector vaccines, they're gone.
But I've always said, listen, if somebody put a gun to my head and said I had to take a shot, it wouldn't be Pfizer, Moderna.
I would take Novavax.
At least there's no genetics in it.
If you can survive the spike protein.
Now, there's been serious side effects with Novavax, again, because the spike protein is toxic, potentially lethal, but at least gives you a chance to survive it.
Pfizer and Moderna, we don't know when it finally shuts off.
And I was the only public figure in the country who questioned the vaccines before they came out in an op-ed in The Hill in August of 2020.
It was called The Great Gamble of the COVID-19 Vaccine Development Program.
I said, wait a minute.
These are genetic.
There's no way to turn them off once they get put into the body.
They're going to produce endless amounts of the lethal, damaging Wuhan spike protein.
I mean, this is not a good idea at all.
And yet the company's pressed on.
And when it came down to the approval, you know, when the vaccines were actually released on the market, we only had data from Pfizer.
And the primary series took a month to give shot one and shot two.
And it was just two months of observation after that.
That's it.
So when they came out of the market, no one knew at month four what was going to happen.
No one could have known.
Yet all the medical societies said they're safe and effective and take it and all the churches and all the schools.
The government, and then another milestone happened, which was in June of 2021.
The FDA said, wait a minute.
Pfizer and Moderna cause heart damage, myocarditis.
The FDA said this.
So you know what happens in August of 2021?
Two months after that, the NFL mandates the shots for the players.
Now, what league, in their right mind, Would mandate a shot that causes heart damage to athletes?
We had data from the Big Ten showing 30% of athletes already had COVID through 2020.
Probably the rest of them had it in early 2021.
And why do you think that is, though?
Why do you think it got into sports so big like that?
COVID was never an issue.
The best I can tell is, honestly, it was money.
The Biden administration, HHS, and the COVID Community Corps program, Which was in the early part of 2021.
It was billions of dollars.
It flowed to the sports teams, the churches, media, various community groups, the medical societies.
And it pushed the vaccines.
The NFL Players Union didn't want the shots.
They had already gotten through COVID.
And then when they had heart damage, they definitely didn't want them.
And the NFL Players Association took the money and...
You know, by August, they mandated it.
And it was only the strongest players that said they're not taking it, like Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers, he's gotten a lot of flack for this.
But you know what?
He made the right decision.
When Aaron got sick, him and Joe Rogan, I know Rogan, they got the McCullough protocol.
They got through COVID easily.
And I remember when Ben Roethlisberger got COVID, you know, he was beating up on Rodgers.
Oh, Rodgers didn't take the vaccine.
And Ben gave it to his dad and got his father sick.
And he was fully vaccinated.
So it's interesting.
Aaron Rodgers said, I'm not taking it.
The best tennis player, Novak Djokovic, said, I'm not taking it.
Kyrie Irving in basketball said he's not taking it.
So it's the guys who really were big-time players.
The rest of them, it's hard to know.
It's hard to know if they took it or if they just had other ways of getting around it.
Fortunately, outside of DeMar Hamlin, he had what's probably a vaccine cardiac arrest on the field, and there's been maybe a dozen players with blood clots and other problems.
The vast majority of the NFL, I think, came out okay, but it could have been a disaster if they all really took it.
It just makes me wonder how many of those are just placebos.
Like we watch Joe Biden get his shot on TV, and obviously that was a placebo.
They would never inject some experimental drug.
Well, wait a minute.
He may have gotten it because he pretty clearly has cognitive decline.
He has relatively obvious dementia.
That's true.
So believe it or not, he probably took it.
I'll tell you somebody who I think for sure took it was Dianne Feinstein.
She was elderly.
You know what?
She developed neuroinvasive varicella zoster.
That's a mouthful.
And yeah, no, I'm telling you, that's shingles that invades the brain is fatal.
So I guarantee she took it.
Another person, looks like he took it, was Mitch McConnell.
He's having probably partial seizures now.
Another person who took it was Lauren Bulbert.
She's in the House of Representatives.
She just had big blood clots taken out of her veins.
Really? Yeah, both sides.
I thought she was totally against that, but wow.
No, she must have taken the shot.
Nancy Mace, she took the shot.
She's in Congress.
She has come out in the hearings and said that it screwed her up.
Sean Caston, Democratic congressman from Illinois.
His daughter Emily took the shot.
She died in bed.
So you can go around the public figures.
Bruce Arians, he used to coach the Bucs.
He had vaccine myocarditis, was hospitalized.
Al Roker, the weatherman on TV, took a bunch of shots, got COVID, had blood clots, hospitalized multiple times, nearly died.
Herb Kirkstreet, ESPN announcer again, has COVID, doesn't need the shots, takes them anyway, gets blood clots.
You know, there's a lot of public figures.
Jamie Foxx.
I know Jamie Foxx.
I talked to him.
Again, you know, they haven't denied it.
It looks like he took the shots and he had a stroke and was in the hospital, the feeding tube and stuff.
I mean, you think if you're a public figure, you just come out and say, listen, I'm going to warn other people, right?
You'd want to, yeah.
Remember, Elon Musk said his cousin got myocarditis.
So, you know, people should just be honest.
There was a CNN legal correspondent in 2021.
She took the shot and just basically died of an allergic reaction that day or the next day.
But at least they came out at that time and were honest and said, listen, she took the shot and she died.
It's crazy.
When you look at, you know, they started that website or Twitter or whatever, died suddenly, and you have all these public officials and people who are like, gotta get the shot.
I got my third, whatever.
And then it's like, oh, they died from probably complications from the COVID shot.
Oh, yeah.
Did you see that one guy?
He was a bodybuilder, a trainer or something.
He goes, if I take the shot and I live, it's safe.
If I take it and I die, it's not.
He takes it and he dies.
Oh, my God.
Or even Joe Rogan.
Joe was on with Aaron Rodgers.
Joe says he knows some young guys in his circles, two of them, that needed pacemakers.
They developed myocarditis, heart damage, and needed pacemakers.
Yeah. I was listening to his show with you on it last night, and he was just not...
He wasn't budging on it.
He was pretty late.
He had me on.
It was two years into the pandemic.
He was pretty late at it.
And, you know, he gets a nice reach, but I've, gosh, recently I went on Daystar a few months ago.
Daystar is the largest Christian broadcasting network.
We had 2.7 billion views.
What? 2.7.
Yeah. So Rogan normally gets 10 million views.
With me, he got like 160.
He did great 100 million views.
But, you know, Daystar will blow it out because it's just international.
That's the thing.
But the reason why I get a lot of interviews is because I always give the data.
I've been right.
I was right that we should treat it early.
The drugs used in combination works.
I was right the vaccines weren't going to be safe, and they weren't safe.
I've been right now on how to detoxify.
This is important.
People take the shots.
They're loaded with this Wuhan spike protein.
We measure it in our clinic, so we know they're loaded.
We've found that three natural products really work to help the body get rid of this stuff.
If you've taken the shots or had COVID a bunch of times, you probably have it in you.
And it's natokinase, natural Japanese supplement.
It's a heart supplement.
2,000 units twice a day.
These are starting doses.
Bromelin, derived from the stems of pineapples, 500 milligrams a day.
These are capsules.
And then curcumin, derived from turmeric.
500 milligrams twice a day.
So you can get it.
Our clinic has a combined capsule.
It's called base spike detoxification.
You can get them online.
You get them on Amazon.
If you just type in spike detoxification, there's a bunch of companies that offer these.
And these are starting doses.
We can double or triple the doses if they're tolerated well.
But virtually everybody should be on these right now.
I am.
To tell you the truth, I am.
Because I've had COVID three times.
And I know that I don't want to end up with a stroke.
Or a blood clot.
Because both COVID and the vaccine cause complications.
Each on their own.
Yeah. So listen, I've had people just get a couple of bad cases of COVID and they come in with huge blood clots.
No vaccine.
No vaccine.
So, you know, I don't want people to think it's just the vaccine.
Most people who took the vaccine, they got COVID anyway.
So it's all mixed up.
Right. They need detoxification.
So McCullough Protocol.
Base spike protein detoxification.
If you go to my website, PeterMcCulloughMD.com, that'll give you a lot of information there.
And I think everybody, these are safe.
The main caveat is bleeding.
We want to make sure people don't have excessive bleeding on them.
Or if there's a soy allergy, it's probably not a good idea to try natto kinase.
But the bottom line is they're well tolerated and they work slowly, but people do get better.
So I have a question.
It's something that I often worry about for myself.
You kind of just mentioned part of it there.
So I didn't take the shot.
I'm not vaccinated.
For me, it's a no-brainer.
I mean, I saw the writing all over the wall.
But something I didn't think about then, you know, in the deep thralls of this, was shedding, vaccine shedding.
Oh, boy.
So my girlfriend was vaccinated early on with the Johnson& Johnson one, I do believe.
And, I mean, we're together often, so...
Am I in imminent danger?
And what can I do to guard against that?
You know, I get these questions all the time on Instagram.
And, you know, I do have to have a little fun with it.
I usually say, you know, I hope you use protection.
And then someone goes, Dr. McCullough, did you have to ask that?
Well, this is what we know about shedding.
On my show, I interviewed Helene Benoun from Inserm in France.
She's probably the leader on this.
She has multiple publications.
Shedding is probably real.
It's best exemplified.
If there's a vaccinated woman around another woman who's premenopausal, who's menstruating, clearly shedding can affect the menstrual periods, for sure.
Okay, that's enough data are there.
It's never been demonstrated to go through a blood transfusion.
It's never been demonstrated yet through kissing or sexual incourse.
It does come through breast milk for sure.
And then pregnant women do transmit it to the baby through the placenta and the cord blood.
So shedding is real.
If anybody's freshly vaccinated right now, which I doubt there's hardly anybody taking the vaccine.
I'd say, listen, try to stay away from close contact for about six months.
Anybody who takes a shot should not donate blood, I think, for at least six months, if not longer.
Okay. And that goes to like plasma too, like plasma donators?
Yeah. Okay.
Just to get that out there.
All right.
I wasn't sure because I've heard a lot about, you know, I've heard a lot of fear porn about the shedding issue.
And I'm like, well, okay.
So no matter if you got the shot or not, everyone's still screwed.
In that case.
Well, you know, again, the serology, we've all been exposed to this.
There's, you know, a Texas-Houston study on this.
We've all been exposed to the spike protein and the virus.
The CDC, if you go on the CDC website, look at the wastewater data.
They're measuring the virus in the wastewater.
Like, all the sewer pipes are filled with this stuff.
So I think we're getting exposed to it all the time.
So now it's just become a normal thing in our lives.
Like, it's nothing to be worried too much about, the shedding issue.
Essentially? No, but I'd say, listen, you know, we're all getting this immune re-challenge.
I think we should be as lean and fit as possible.
We should probably all be on a multivitamin.
Vitamin D has some antiviral properties.
I take 10,000 units a day.
The spike detoxification, that'll work against COVID.
Again, netokanase, bromelain, curcumin.
I think these are all wise things to do.
Lose some pounds, get out, get fresh air, get fit.
A lot of people will tell me, Dr. McCullough, since the pandemic, I'm just off somehow.
I'm just not as strong.
I'm not such a good runner.
I'm not, you know, I don't feel as energetic.
I'm tired more easily.
Whether they took the shot or not.
And I think that is a spike protein effect in the body.
And this detoxification is a good idea.
You know, the natokinase, the Japanese...
It's a fermentation product of soybeans.
The Japanese have been eating it for a thousand years.
They eat it for breakfast because of its purported health benefits.
And then for the last 30 years or so, they've had it as a capsule.
But it does actually unblock clogged arteries with cholesterol.
And they've shown this in pretty good comparative studies.
It protects against heart attack and stroke.
So it's probably a good idea for someone my age to take some natokinase anyway.
Yeah, I mean, I take turmeric, ginger.
Vitamin C, vitamin D, B-complex, riboflava, not the cyanobalamin stuff.
That's horrible.
I'd take a number of supplements.
Nothing too crazy.
Some chlorophyll.
I take chlorophyll.
Straight chlorophyll concentrate.
You've actually got a pretty good regimen.
Have you had COVID-19?
I'm sure.
I'm sure I've had.
Have you ever been tested for it?
No. Oh my gosh.
So you never took a vaccine and you were never tested?
No. I'm so envious.
Oh my God.
Is it for you the pandemic didn't happen?
That is so awesome.
I watched it happen.
I mean, I've been one of these people my entire life since I was a little kid.
Like when I was four years old, not four years old, fourth grade, I think is the last shot I got.
And I told my parents, I don't want, why am I getting these shots?
I don't want these shots.
And they never brought me back after the fourth grade.
And so I've...
I've been into the conspiracy since I was like eight years old.
And so I've just been lucky in that realm, I guess.
No, you're not a conspiracy theorist.
Monica Schmidt in Australia has done a nice thing.
If you go to www.rationaltheorist.com, it's a great site.
And they go through it.
I'm actually in the film, so you should probably splice it in.
The central bankers can dictate the rules of when and how you can use your money.
What are you watching?
I don't know, it's some conspiracy theorist but in the usual rubbish.
But isn't she some kind of investment banker?
What if she's right?
Right? Come off the grass, she's a conspiracy theorist.
With COVID-19 vaccines, there isn't a single paper in the New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, Lancet, where the conclusion is...
The risks of the vaccines outweigh the benefits.
Do you think that it could be true?
Hmm... No...
He's a conspiracy theorist.
But isn't he a pretty famous doctor?
Like, why would he tarnish his career just to make those things up?
The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.
This is exactly what people think.
And this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
Along with millions of others, I have recently been called a conspiracy theorist for the first time in my life.
And it just does not sit right with me.
We've been forced to embrace this term.
But what if it's being intentionally used to discredit people?
And then it dawned on me.
We've never been conspiracy theorists.
Because our theories are logical, evidence-based and even debatable if people would debate us.
We are not conspiracy theorists at all.
We're actually rational theorists.
Until now, maybe you've been afraid to ask questions because you've seen people publicly vilified and bullied for doing so.
But things have changed.
Now is the perfect time to
Because you are a rational theorist and your theories are exactly that.
Rational. But it goes through this and said, listen, we are not conspiring to do anything.
We have theories, and they're rational theories, and we can talk about them and vet them.
Now it turns out you are quite wise to decline these battery of vaccines.
When I was a kid, there weren't that many.
For me, they accumulated over time because of medical staff issues and travel.
But the World Council for Health now says, as of September, Of 2023, full stop on the vaccine schedule.
There's five studies showing that kids are healthier if they take no shots.
They're healthier with no shots.
Yeah, I don't understand.
The numbers are there and people are like, get the kids.
We've got to get the kids.
Come on, diphtheria and pertussis, if they ever happen, we treat it with a Z-Pak.
Yeah. Come on, how hard is that?
I mean, they're just not needed.
They're not needed.
You know, I think they can be taken one by one later on.
Let's say a child with cystic fibrosis, maybe they should get the pulmonary pathogen vaccines or a child with congenital asplenia or a surgically removed spleen would need certain vaccines.
But I'm telling you, the average healthy person like me or you, if I was a young parent today, I would have the child take no vaccines.
100%. 100%.
And I don't know if you've seen this, you probably have, but the CDC just released an article yesterday where they are warning about COVID-19 vaccines.
They said, quote, they have caused at least a 14,000% increase in turbo cancer cases across the United States.
Only released data shows that there has been a minimum of 6,113% increase in cancer cases among children and young adults.
That's from the CDC.
Oh my God.
14,000% increase.
Yeah, well, there's a couple of papers out this week.
One by Castillas Rubio and another one from...
Gosh, I'm trying to blank somewhere elsewhere.
But basically showing the messenger RNA, pseudo-uterodinated messenger RNA, almost certainly directly oncogenic.
That's on my Twitter feed.
And then another paper confirming the spike protein.
So now we have two papers, one from the University of Pittsburgh, the most recent one that came in.
So the vaccines promote cancer via multiple mechanisms.
This is not good.
Yeah, and it's one thing just for someone like you and me to talk about that, but when the CDC releases an article directly stating these facts, it's like, okay, maybe we should start not pushing this anymore.
And people are still pushing it, like Spotify.
I still hear ads.
Oh. Putting, you know, go get your shots.
It's another round of COVID.
Go get your shot.
Now, Coop, do you know anybody taking shots?
No. No.
No. I haven't heard of anyone taking a shot since like 2021.
Maybe 2021.
Most people that I see, like today I saw people with heart damage and problems.
Most of them took the shots in 2021 and they're still having problems in 2024.
And here's an issue I wanted to point out too with...
The cancer increase.
So, how long has St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital been around?
Since 1962, right?
And they get around $2 billion every year to research cancer in children and the most viable treatments available.
So, why is it that the rate of cancer in children has consistently risen since 1962?
And why is there a 6,000% increase in cancer among children and young adults?
None of that makes sense.
What are they studying at St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital?
And why is cancer going up?
But chances are, if you check their website, they still recommend the COVID vaccine.
100%, they do.
They do.
Yeah. So these are cancer-promoting vaccines recommended to kids with cancer.
What's that going to do?
It's just going to make the cancer progress more rapidly, a so-called turbo cancer.
This has been a disaster.
To recommend vaccines in people at high risk for problems.
You know, there's been papers now showing the vaccines can cause or exacerbate multiple sclerosis.
Why does the multiple sclerosis society say take a vaccine?
The vaccines cause heart damage, myocarditis, and cardiac arrest.
Why does the American College of Cardiology say they promote vaccines?
So these societies that are supposed to be fighting these diseases are actually promoting more disease with the vaccines.
It astounds me.
It just astounds me.
And what gets me more is, you know, for a while there, people were just taking it hook, line, and sinker.
And, oh, man, it just scares me.
It scares me.
I saw my whole family do it.
I saw all of my friends do it.
And I was telling everyone, please don't.
Please don't do it.
And everyone just still did it.
In many ways, it's almost like suicide at this point.
You feel sorry for people.
It's like, you know, please don't do it or please get on detox.
If you took it, like you're a girlfriend, Coop, get her on detox.
I'm a color pro.
I've told her, I've told her actually this past couple months, I've been really pushing, like, you need to please, like, do something.
And so she's getting on.
She's taking a lot of supplements now and good ones too, not crappy ones.
So make sure you got the natto.
You got to have natto and bromelain.
You got to dissolve this stuff.
It's not just any old supplements.
You've got to really dissolve the spike protein, natokinase and bromelain.
It's out there.
All the detox, there's a ton of detox products out there, but natokinase and bromelain, and it's for her own sake.
I mean, most people who took the vaccine, they just don't want to hear about it.
No, they don't.
Then they end up with a blood clot or cardiac arrest, and it's too late.
They don't.
They don't.
Like, my mom has cancer.
Well, she's been in remission for a while, and she took a number of the shots.
My dad, too.
And so far, they're good.
Nothing crazy has happened yet.
But did they have a sore arm when they took it?
Oh, man.
I don't know.
But you should ask them that, Coop, because there's a paper by Schmeling and colleagues from Denmark.
There's about 30% of people, they don't even get a sore arm.
Nothing happens to them.
Nothing. It's like they got a dud.
That's like placebo.
Yeah, like another 60%.
They have some minor side effects.
In their data, it's only 4.2% that are really going to get in trouble.
Our U.S. data, CDC, BC, 7.7%.
So it's between 5% and 10% of people we're worried about.
The problem is it's hard to sort them out.
Not having a sore arm is a pretty good...
Clinical sign that they're going to be fine.
Okay, that's an easy one.
I know when I got the, not TB shot.
Probably tetanus.
Tetanus, that's what it was, tetanus.
That couldn't lift my arm for a week.
Yeah, so each person has a reaction.
But my mother-in-law, she's 90. She took the COVID shots to get out of Canada.
She never felt them.
I've been watching her carefully.
Three or four years now.
She's perfectly fine.
Yeah, see, I know some of these are just placebos, man, and some of them are like loaded with stuff.
Well, you know, the vaccine vials were never inspected.
That's true.
Surgeon General Joel Adapo in Florida said, listen, pop open the vials and inspect them, see what's in them.
The U.S. government will not do it.
Schmeling and Verbeke Manici in Copenhagen, Denmark, same thing, should open the vials because these three groups, Are so obvious according to the batches.
There's some batches that everyone gets sick and other batches people are fine.
Open the vials and let's inspect them.
They refuse to do it.
Wonder why.
Wonder why.
I think they know they got a bad product situation on their hands.
This is absolutely terrible.
Yeah. And there's a cover-up.
You saw today Brad Wenstrup was in the U.S. House of Representatives pounding away.
Chip Roy.
Rand Paul in the Senate, Ron Johnson.
We got a product safety disaster on our hands.
The sooner we just admit it and start to clean it up, the better.
But this has really, really damaged the population around the world.
So there's this other article from October 2023 by childrenshealthdefense.org titled, How Pfizer Hid Nearly 80% of COVID Vaccine Trial Deaths from Regulators.
And in the article, they discussed the why, which is Pfizer hid the numbers in order for them to qualify for the Federal Emergency Use Authorization by the FDA.
Right. Doctor, why would the pharmaceutical companies want to hide those numbers from the general public and the regulators?
They had pre-purchased agreements.
There's billions of dollars waiting for them.
They just had to get it through the FDA.
So what happened is when there's a data cutoff, which happened in November, the study is still going.
They wrote up the study results at the point of the data cutoff, and it goes in the briefing booklet that goes to the FDA committee.
I know because I've been on these committees.
It goes to the FDA committee, and they have their core slides and briefing booklet, but it didn't have everything that happened.
So anything that happened from the data cutoff forward was not there.
Now, at the meeting, when I'm at these meetings, I always say, listen, has there been any more deaths since the time you...
Put together the briefing booklet and the course slides.
That's a standard question.
Nobody on the committee asked that question, and Pfizer didn't volunteer it.
And it turned out that, yeah, there were more deaths, and they're not in the materials.
It was found out later on in the Pfizer records, and there were more deaths with Pfizer than placebo.
There were more cardiovascular events with Pfizer than placebo.
So if all the data would have been there, they would have been looking at it where Pfizer...
Caused more damage than placebo.
And there's just no way it would have gotten improved.
Because remember, the vaccines never reduced severity.
They never reduced hospitalization and death for COVID.
Right. All they did was reduce initially the binary occurrence of the cold-like symptoms.
And it was grossly overestimated, the efficacy.
You know, one of the standards to use was called intent to treat.
Intent to treat means once somebody's randomized, you count everything from the time they're randomized to the end of the study.
What they did here is they didn't use intent to treat.
They said, listen, if you're randomized to placebo or Pfizer and you get COVID, if you've been randomized to placebo, everything counts.
But if you've been randomized to Pfizer, nothing counts before shot one.
Nothing counts before shot two.
And then after that, two weeks after shot two, it counts.
So it was very unequal.
And so there were tons of people with Pfizer getting COVID during the primary series, and it didn't count.
So all of these, so when they said it's 95% effective, real estimates are it's way less than that.
That was initially.
And then, of course, with that later on, everybody got sick anyway.
And now we know, essentially, they don't work at all.
They're completely useless.
What's the interleukin-6?
Interleukin-6 is the number one cytokine elevated by SARS-CoV-2.
It's interesting.
It has effects on the heart.
It is released by fat cells.
That's the reason why heavier people had trouble with COVID than thinner people.
But there's so much to learn with COVID-19.
I wish the academic community would have embraced early treatment, would have embraced innovating with hospital protocols, studying vaccine safety.
They've really missed the boat.
They're not having any Grand Rounds lectures, not demonstrating any advancements at all.
There's no best practices for COVID care.
It's as if academic medicine just wants to whitewash this.
They don't even want to think about it.
It's sad because this was a time for great learning in medicine.
Patients need care.
They're not getting it.
They're very frustrated.
And, you know, there's a small group of doctors like myself that's trying to carry the nation now for four years.
And we cannot thank you guys enough.
The ones that actually care and getting the truth out.
Like, we need you guys to be here for us.
You're our last line of defense in this.
Thank you.
And when, you know, we get doctors who are just chasing after that money saying, get the shot, get the shot, get the shot.
It's just so damaging and disheartening for the world, man.
So thank you.
It's true.
I mean, no doctors should be recommending unsafe shots.
We're going to have to leave it there, Coop.
Thank you so much for having me on the program, Dr. Peter McCullough.
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They've got to find somebody a lot more handsome to play me in the movie.
Let me tell you what.
We've been in a tough time.
I told Tucker Carlson, if I helped one person, it was worth it.
I'm so fatigued in four years, but my heart is broken for what's happened.
But I think we have a bright future as long as people like you and me are...
I'm bringing the truth to the audience.
Thank you for coming on.
You're a busy man.
Thank you again.
Thank you so much for having me.
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