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192A Current Events and the Kingdom of God With Mary Grace

A wide-ranging discussion of current events and the kingdom of God with Mary Grace and Praying Medic.Mary grace Media: https://marygracemedia.com/

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Welcome to the show.
I'm Mary Grace, and this is Real Talk with Mary Grace.
You are watching live.
It is the 18th of November 2021, and we're coming to you today on Facebook, Clout Hub, and Twitter, also known as Periscope, whatever you want to call it.
That's where we are.
And I have a special mystery guest with me today.
Some of you were probably expecting to see Rachel Ham.
Well, Rachel shaved her head.
No, just kidding.
I have a new guest.
Rachel had an extenuating circumstance.
Please pray for her.
She has a very exciting life event happening, but it started happening much quicker than she had planned.
And so we're going to get her on the show when things settle down.
I have with me none other than the famous, wonderful, Amazing prank medic Dave Hayes.
I want to welcome you to the show.
Thank you for coming at the last minute.
This is just awesome.
And I'm so pleased to have you as we're waiting for people to come in.
I just wanted to let you do a quick intro and people can catch that on the replay as well.
Just tell us a little bit about yourself.
A lot of people know you as the person that did all of the decodes and videos during the entire couple of years that Q was active.
But there's so much more to what you do.
You've been on the scene since way before President Trump got elected.
And so let's just give my listeners a little bit of background about the praying medic, and also known as Dave Hayes, or the reverse.
Thanks again.
Well, the one thing that a lot of people don't know about me is I love to cook.
I'm actually cooking a roast right now.
I was a little bit late getting on the live stream with you because I was throwing a roast in the oven.
So, yes.
This is a little known fact.
I know a little secret about that, actually, that a lot of people don't know.
And what is that?
And that is that you actually have a cooking blog.
I do have a cooking blog with all kinds of recipes.
You've probably actually been to it.
I've been to your cooking blog.
Yes, I had forgotten about that.
But I think that's pretty cool that you do that.
And yay, Denise, because she gets the benefit of the fact that you love to cook.
That's just awesome.
I've actually had your cooking.
It's awesome.
So do you want to share your blog?
Or is that just sort of on a need to know basis?
It is the web address.
is daveshomecooking.blogspot.com.
daveshomecooking.blogspot.com.
Yep, it's a Google blog.
Yeah, so you guys can go there.
Actually, after I got divorced.
Oh, you got into cooking?
That was your coping?
I always enjoyed cooking.
But after I got divorced, And that was a long time ago.
That was, gosh, it's been almost 15 years.
I got addicted to the Food Network.
I started watching the Food Network a lot and taking notes on cooking and learned a lot about cooking.
I'd always enjoyed cooking, but I wasn't, you know, I didn't cook a lot of fancy things.
And then I spent some time watching the Food Network, learning the ins and outs of cooking.
Tyler Florence was a big influence on me, Emeril Lagasse, Paula Deen, Alton Brown.
And I followed their shows and I learned a lot about cooking.
And I started gathering recipes, kind of customizing some of them to my own taste.
I developed this cooking blog because I thought, you know what, I need a place for my recipes.
My son actually makes, I developed a buttermilk biscuit recipe that is to die for.
And I kind of customized the recipe From episodes by Paula Deen and Alton Brown and Tyler Florence.
They all did have their own buttermilk biscuit recipe.
I tried all of them.
I didn't like any of them.
It wasn't quite up to my standards.
So I tweaked their recipes a little bit.
Came up with my own recipe for buttermilk biscuits.
And it's on the blog.
And my son Will ask me once a year.
Hey Dad, I'm getting together with family.
They want me to make buttermilk biscuits.
I need your recipe.
Can you send a link to it?
So I'll send him a link or I'll just copy and paste the instructions.
And a message to him.
My son has been making my buttermilk biscuits at family gatherings now for probably five years.
Does he give you attribution for the recipe or does he?
Yes, he does.
They all know it's my recipe.
OK, I'm going to have to try it.
Uh, the buttermilk biscuit recipe is pretty darn good.
Okay.
What's the secret to a flaky biscuit?
It is in, there's a couple of things.
If you really want really, really good flaky biscuits, use lard.
Do you hear that, Millie?
Uh, if you're, if you're adverse to lard, um, the secret to getting the biscuits flaky is to take the dough and to fold it and fold it and fold it and fold it Uh, once when you get in a ball, you have to kind of fold it and continually fold the dough.
That's what creates the, uh, the layers of the flakiness.
Also, make sure you, uh, butter them.
The biscuits really good when you put them in the oven, that gives them a nice brown coloring.
Nice.
Egg wash is not a bad idea if you want a really golden brown.
All those tips are in the recipe.
Okay, great.
So, daveshomecooking.blogspot.com.
daveshomecooking.blogspot.com.
Excellent, excellent.
That is where I've gathered a lot of recipes that I'm no longer actually making because Denise and I have been on keto for the last year.
Okay, yeah.
I understand.
Yeah, sometimes you just need to make a, you need to, you need a biscuit though.
Yeah, sometimes you do.
Yep.
Thanksgiving and Christmas are coming.
I'm not exactly having key lime cheesecake on a weekly basis anymore.
Yeah, I understand.
It makes a difference.
So it looks like we're getting some more viewers here.
We're getting some people in the chat.
For those of you who are new, who are not familiar with our guest today, we have Dave Hayes here, Praying Medic.
He can be found at prayingmedic.com.
He also has a Telegram channel.
And so we're going to jump into a little bit more serious topics.
Thank you for telling us about your blog, your cooking.
I can't wait to go check out some of the recipes.
I had kind of forgotten about that.
Like it was in the back of my mind, but I'm glad you brought that up.
And so the first thing I wanted to ask you, I mean, we chatted last night about a couple of topics.
There's not much going on, so I'm having a hard time figuring out what to ask you, but I'm sure we'll find something.
It's just been so slow in the news lately.
LOL.
But let's see.
I want to ask you, let's start with the big question that we hear from people all the time.
This is a question you get or a comment, and this is something I deal with all the time.
And that is the comment of people saying, I just can't wait until this is over.
I just want it to be over.
And meaning all of the insanity that we're dealing with right now.
You know, the totalitarian behavior coming from the regime up in DC.
You name it.
I hear this so much.
And I want to know, what would you say to people who have that attitude and that approach to the situation that we're in?
Yep, that is a very common.
It's a common sentiment that people have.
It's understandable.
And, you know, if you're a woman in labor, And you've been in labor for 18 hours and you want this damn baby to be born and you're tired of, you know, all the nonsense.
You just want this thing over with, right?
Like, I want to take my baby home.
I'm done.
I've done all the stuff I'm supposed to do.
And this baby still is not cooperating.
I want this over, right?
I mean, maybe you can relate to that a little bit.
So when you're going through something that is painful, When you're going through something that challenges your patience, something that challenges your endurance, something that challenges your understanding of God, something that challenges your understanding of the plan.
When you go through things that don't seem fair, don't seem just, and don't seem right, the natural instinct is to want things to be made right.
For the criminals to be apprehended, for the nightmare to end, and for things to just go back to normal.
Right?
I mean, that's normal.
That's what we expect.
That's what we want when we face these situations.
And that's what a lot of people are experiencing right now.
But, you know, from my perspective, The problem, the essential problem, is one of expectation.
I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations about how soon this is supposed to be over.
And I think the unrealistic expectation comes from a skewed perspective on what is actually happening right now.
So some people are kind of looking at the small picture.
Hey, some, you know, girl sniffing pedophile ended up in the White House.
We need to get rid of this guy because he's going to destroy the country.
I mean, to some people, that's that's essentially the problem.
We just need to get rid of Joe Biden.
He's the problem.
He wasn't supposed to get in the White House, and we just need to get him out of the White House, and then everything will be fine.
All right.
Well, that's taking a very shallow, superficial look at the problem.
Joe Biden isn't the problem.
He's a symptom of the problem.
The actual problem is much bigger.
So it's not just Joe Biden and corrupt people in Congress.
There are corrupt people in Congress.
They are passing bills that are, you know, on the way to destroying our country.
But just getting rid of all those corrupt people in Congress and Joe Biden isn't going to fix the problem.
It's bigger than that.
It's not just Big Pharma that is trying to kill people and making trillions of dollars at our expense.
That's not just the problem.
That's another symptom of the problem.
The problem is much bigger than that.
The problem is huge.
It's massive.
Here's another symptom of the problem.
We've been seeing the elites of society being arrested for breaking the laws, breaking rules, and getting their kids into Ivy League schools.
We've been seeing faculty members of Ivy League schools being arrested for selling information to China, taking money from China.
We've seen people in the intelligence community being arrested for selling information to China.
Okay, now we're getting into the root of the problem, which is that China, the Communist Chinese Party, has infiltrated our country in almost every area of society, and they are trying to destroy our country and take it over through a war.
Not through a war of invasion, through a war of infiltration.
And a lot of people just refuse to come to grips with the fact that we're at war, that we've been at war for a long time.
President Trump has been a wartime president.
Now, the fact that he ended the war in Afghanistan, de-escalated the fighting in Syria and other parts of the Middle East, brokered the peace agreements with Saudi Arabia and between Saudi and other nations, and Israel, Right.
I mean, Trump brokered a bunch of peace agreements between Israel and other Arab nations.
Yeah, the Abraham Accords.
What's that?
The Abraham Accords.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're trying to undo that right now.
Trump has brought our troops home and has ended a lot of the wars.
But what people don't understand, a lot of them don't understand, is we have been fighting a war against China for a very long time.
And I think when Q uses The phrase, the silent war continues.
That's an allusion to the fact that we've been in a war.
It's a silent war.
It's not a kinetic war.
We're not launching missiles at China.
They're not launching missiles at us.
But China has been in a silent war with us for a long time.
They have infiltrated government.
They've infiltrated Intel agencies.
They've infiltrated Higher education, they have infiltrated Hollywood, they have infiltrated the media.
President Trump put out a message yesterday about how we are still allowing We are at war.
propagandists into our media complex and that the Biden administration is approving visas for people, for the media who are not members of the press.
They are propagandists for the Chinese Communist Party.
That's the kind of war we're fighting.
Media has been infiltrated by Chinese propagandists.
We are at war.
And it dawned on me some months ago that if we're at war and my role is essentially a digital soldier because it's an information war.
The country hasn't been invaded because we have 400 million guns in this country.
No foreign country is going to be crazy enough to invade us with an army and try to take us over.
They know that they can't do it.
So China and other countries have figured if they can infiltrate our country, take control of positions of power, Trump came along and he woke people up.
teaching that pushes socialism and Marxism, they can slowly take over control of our country.
That's what they've been trying to do for the last 30 years.
Trump came along and he woke people up.
Q came along and gave people a big wake-up pill about what has been happening to our country, how Our country has been sold out to the highest bidder.
I have a question.
First of all, I heard you say we're at war.
Can you say that louder for the people in the back?
This is something that I just want to make sure people understand.
Why do you think Qtel calls us digital soldiers?
Why has General Flynn called us digital soldiers?
Why is Flynn on his Telegram channel every day telling us we need to get involved locally?
We need to be involved.
We need to be either running for elected position, whether it's school board or precinct committee chair or whatever.
We need to be on social media, putting out posts, putting out videos, putting out information, sharing it with our friends and our family and people in our circle of influence.
We are digital soldiers.
And if we are soldiers, okay, we're in a war, number one.
Number two, we are digital soldiers.
And if you're, if you're a soldier, what does that mean?
What does that mean?
See, I kind of had to, it took me a long time to wrap my mind around the fact that I am actually a soldier.
And I have been enlisted in a war and I have taken an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
I took the oath.
Denise and I did the video.
We posted it on Twitter and Q reposted it.
I mean, we took the oath.
We are digital soldiers.
What does it mean to be a soldier?
When you are a soldier in an army, the first thing that you have to understand is the army expects you to be disciplined.
And that's what a lot of people don't understand.
They don't have a wartime mentality.
They don't have a war face.
They don't think in terms of strategy and tactics.
They don't think in terms of, I'm a soldier, there is someone trying to destroy my country, and I have to take action to stop them from doing it.
I have, you know, I took on the assignment of decoding Q posts and doing videos and Twitter threads because I did come to the realization that there are evil forces out there that are trying to destroy not just America but the world.
They're trying to enslave us all.
I want to interrupt you for just a second, because you're telling people to get involved, and you're saying that you took on the role of decoding the Q post.
There's something that a lot of people don't know about you that I think is important to interject here, as you're urging people to get involved, and that is this.
You are not a political guy.
When Donald Trump got elected, this was not your lane.
You didn't spend the last 20 years being locally active, politically active, internet active.
You were not an activist.
What the hell was I doing, Mary?
You were writing books about healing, about spirituality, about Christianity, about hearing from God, learning about the Holy Spirit.
Can I be so bold as to say you really couldn't care less about politics?
It just wasn't your lane.
Is that true?
Okay.
Yeah, and I really want people to hear this because God called you to do this.
And you answered the call.
And you didn't know at the time that it was because we're at war.
I think that you came to that realization along the way.
I want people to get what you're saying here.
Because so many people are adrift and they're asking the question, how do I fight?
Or I hear them say, I'm just not political.
Well, guess what?
You're looking at the original apolitical guy right here.
And he's had a massive, massive impact Because he listened and answered the call of God on his life in this season.
And I want to really emphasize that.
So can you give us a little background about how you were convinced God gave you an offer you couldn't refuse?
I had no interest in politics at all and current events prior to 2016.
Well, like you said, I was just, you know, a charismatic teacher teaching people about dreams and healing and deliverance and emotional trauma.
And I mean, that's that was my life for like, for years.
I started publishing books in 2013.
We published three books in 2013.
Divine Healing Made Simple was our first book.
Then we put out My Craziest Adventures with God Volumes 1 and 2.
Then in 2014, I wrote the book Seeing in Spirit Made Simple.
And then we published a couple more books.
And then in 2015, we published a few more books.
I mean, I was just very, very happy.
I had been working on the ambulance for 35 years.
I was getting very burned out.
I really hated my work.
Other than getting to pray with people and see miracles.
That was cool.
But working on the ambulance at that point was very stressful.
I was doing critical care transports.
And I was working in a system that was highly politicized.
Oh, that's a shocker.
It was high risk.
And I knew that the people that were above me, my supervisors, they were asking me to do some very risky transports.
And I knew that if anything happened, I was going to be thrown under the bus.
I'd seen them do it to other people.
So that stress in that environment caused me to want to get out of medicine.
And when I got into publishing books and just writing and blogging about what God was doing, I just saw myself doing that for the next 10 years.
And then Q comes along and screwed up my business plan, because we were going to publish three books a year every year.
And that was our business plan.
And then in 2017, Q comes along and I stopped publishing books for two years while I was just researching Q posts for 60, 70 hours a week, every week, month after month for two years.
We stopped publishing and our royalties went just cratered.
Fortunately, people supported us financially through donations.
If we had not had the financial support of people who appreciated the research that we were doing on Q, we would have been bankrupt.
People supported us.
And like you said, I was not at all interested in politics or current events.
I couldn't give a rat's butt about any of that.
But in 2016, God started giving me dreams about politics and current events, and especially Trump.
I've had, gosh, probably 200 dreams about Trump over the last five years, and probably almost as many dreams about Q. I know I've had at least 100 dreams where God has highlighted specific things about Q's operation that he wanted me to know.
So, like you said, I got dragged into this unwillingly.
I really did not want to get into politics and current events, but it seemed like that's what God wanted me to do.
So I did it.
And I've been doing it.
I'm trying to get back into writing books.
Hugh has given me a break for about a year, so I've been working on three or four book manuscripts, put out the book on Dream Interpretation Made Simple, and I'm working on a book on power and authority, and that will be done pretty soon.
That's interesting.
There's a third Q book.
I just finished that.
Denise is editing it.
There's going to be a fourth Q book.
I'm working on a science fiction trilogy.
And so I'm loving the fact that I get some time to go back into being a writer, which is my number one thing that I love more than anything else, really.
But, you know, there's a lot going on in politics and current events.
And people appreciate my updates and my insights.
So, you know, I continue to post things on Telegram and do some video news updates periodically.
But, you know, I feel like a guy who's running a three ring circus because I have so many things that are calling for my attention and only so much time in a day.
Well, I want to I want to just touch on what you said about how you you and so Dave is referring to we, and the we, it's not a royal we.
He actually has a beautiful and lovely and talented wife.
Her name is Denise, and they have an amazing partnership.
And so she has a lot of the, she has a brilliant marketing mind.
She's very creative.
And so this is an amazing partnership that God has put together.
One of the things that stands out to me is that you said that we stopped writing books When we answered the call to do this work, and it reminds me of what we know about the patriots who resisted the British and stood up to them.
They pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.
You really didn't know what was going to happen when you embarked on this journey, but you took a step, a massive step in faith.
Both of you did.
Because you saw at that time a much bigger picture emerging about what God was doing in our nation and around the world.
You couldn't have known how any of this was going to come out, and so really there was a massive faith walk that you were embarking on, and I just want to commend you for that.
I think that that doesn't really get enough credit, You know, it's easy to criticize people and I know that you get a lot of that, but I really just want to commend you for taking that risk because many people are in a position right now of getting pushed out of their comfort zone, not really even having a choice.
And I just want to give people that assurance.
You know, God is, God provides.
When He, when He calls you to something, He's going to provide.
He's going to give you abundance.
And this is, Dave and Denise are a walking and living example of that.
And so, you know, just take their faith, And apply it to your situation and ask God to increase your faith and your vision about what it is that he's going to be doing with you and your family if you're going through transition.
So thank you.
And that's a really good point.
Denise and I had a business plan.
We realized that if we published three books a year, We could earn enough in royalties to pay the bills.
Like when I got out of medicine, I didn't have a pension.
Like most people who work 35 years in a certain field, I had no pension when I got out of medicine.
I was working for a company that had just come out of bankruptcy.
And I moved around.
I went from one place to another, trying to find the right employer, trying to find the right fit.
Anyway, didn't have a pension, and I needed to continue working.
And the reason why I quit my job as a paramedic was that Denise said, look, you know, we're making as much selling books As you were working as a paramedic, why don't you just go and write books and publish books full time?
Smart lady.
I was overjoyed because I love to write.
I love to publish.
Working in medicine was really stressful.
I can't imagine what it would be like now.
Probably twice as stressful.
It would be horrible.
It was an interesting transition for me.
It was a step of faith, you know, walking away from my day job without a pension, trusting that God would continue to provide for us.
If I would just keep writing and publishing books, and then Q comes along and we stop publishing books!
It wasn't what I was planning on doing.
Denise is like, well, when are we going to go back to publishing books?
I mean, that's the business plan.
I'm like, I don't know.
When is Q going to stop posting?
I just had this knowing, and she knew too, That God wanted us to do the decodes, do the videos, do the threads, try to explain to the best of our ability what Q is doing.
And we actually formed our ministry in 2016, 2017, because people started donating to us.
And we didn't actually have a nonprofit ministry.
A lot of people had been donating to us thinking they were donating to a non-profit, and we didn't have one at the time.
And Denise started to think, well, you know, a lot of these people are probably going to want to take a tax deduction for their donations, and we don't have a non-profit.
So we quick set up a non-profit, really primarily so that we could give people receipts so that they could deduct their donations on their taxes.
That's the primary reason why we set up our ministry.
And people had then supported us for the next few years.
While we were doing QDCodes, we pretty much lived on the donations that people were sending to us.
Because our book royalties just cratered, and we weren't making a whole lot of money.
As an author, unless you have a best-selling book, Like, you know, The Shack or something.
We're talking like a book that's selling millions of copies.
You have to just keep publishing books.
Right.
If you expect to, you know, make a living doing it.
And we suddenly had to stop publishing because Q would not shut up.
But people stepped up and they supported us financially.
And that's the reason I was able to do all the Q posts is because people were supporting us financially.
There's a lot of people out there who don't understand this whole thing about accepting donations and selling books.
They will never understand that.
And that's fine.
Yeah, there's some people that are going to complain and criticize no matter what.
You've mentioned Q several times.
We go way back.
We were there for the first Q drop.
A lot of people are new.
Can you just give us a very quick overview of what you mean by Q?
Who is Q?
Q is an anonymous entity.
No one knows if Q is a male or female, an individual or a group.
This entity, this person, persona, whatever, has been posting on internet messaging boards since 2017.
And to date, they've published almost 5,000 messages.
Some of them are just simple messages.
Words of encouragement, scripture verses.
Some of them, posts include links to government documents.
Some include links to videos.
A lot of the earlier messages asked a lot of questions.
Q was sort of using the Socratic method to get people to think outside the box about, and Q primarily is about exposing institutional corruption.
So when I talked about China Infiltrating government, higher education, big pharma, the media.
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about institutions of society that have been corrupted by outside influences and domestic influences.
And Q, the mission of Q is to give us, average people, information where we can piece together Piece together bits of information that paint the picture that exposes institutional corruption around the world.
That's what Q does.
Q is helping us understand the breadth and depth of institutional corruption.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, and one of the catchphrase that people hear a lot from Q is trust the plan.
And you mentioned earlier that That General Flynn and Q have have Really continually urged people to get involved.
And I would love to hear your take on what that phrase means.
I believe that there are some people who took that as just a free ticket to sit back and wait for somebody to come on a golden chariot and save everything and save the world.
What does that really mean?
What do you take away from that phrase, trust the plan?
Yeah, that's a really good question.
So the admonition by Q to trust the plan is one of 5,000 messages Q has posted.
Not the only message, and not the most important message, but at times, at specific times, When the researchers on the board, we call Anons, anonymous users or Anons, are feeling dejected, discouraged, things aren't going the way that they had hoped that they would, Q will sometimes drop
A link to a news event, an arrest of someone, declassified documents came out that exposed some element of corruption, someone in the Defense Department who got arrested for, like I said, selling information to China, or some dirt is dropped on Obama or Joe Biden or something like that.
After Q, It's simply a recognition that although it may seem at times as if we're losing the battle, in fact, we're not actually losing the battle.
If you look at the grand suite, the big picture, we're not losing the battle.
It only seems like that if you look at it on a daily basis.
Like, the first two or three months after last November's election, everyone that I know got blackpilled pretty hard.
Yeah.
Right?
So you're probably going to say, well, what is blackpilled?
Well, I was going to say, so we know there's a red pill and a blue pill.
There's a black pill.
Right.
So the red pill wakes you up and opens your eyes and helps you see the truth.
The blue pill puts you to sleep and allows you to believe the fake narrative of the mainstream media.
The black pill is the pill that you take that causes you to lose hope, to live in despair, and to believe that nothing's ever going to change.
You don't want to take the black pill.
And you don't want to hang around people who distribute black pills on a regular basis.
And a lot of people are actually suffering from discouragement and a lack of hope because they're listening to people who are pushing black pills instead of people who are pushing red pills.
You want to hang around with people who give you good, valid reasons to be hopeful.
You're not talking about Hopium.
You're not just talking about Hopium.
I'm not talking about Hopium.
Ever since Q went silent a year ago, there are all these people out there on social media who are pushing pure, fake, unadulterated Hopium.
They're just putting out all this crazy, insane, unprovable False information to give people false hope.
That's not what I'm talking about.
And that's what hopium is, false hope.
It's like an adrenaline hit of hope, but it's based on inaccurate information.
Right, right.
So PepeLivesMatter and I have been trying to keep people's spirits somewhat buoyed.
And to avoid, keep people from becoming depressed and hopeless.
Yeah.
And we've been kind of focusing people's attention on God.
What is God doing?
What is God saying?
What is God showing us?
I do that a lot through dreams.
And in the last Six months.
God has continually showed me every day something going on behind the scenes.
Like when I take a nap in the afternoon, like around, I take a nap usually around one o'clock in the afternoon.
Oh, by the way, I have to take a nap now.
I was going to say you're missing your nap.
What I see in these naps, it's kind of crazy.
I continually see the same thing when I take an afternoon nap.
And I'm talking about a nap for like 10 minutes, all right?
I go into this dream, and I see things going on behind the scenes.
And it always has to do with the takedown of corruption.
Like I see people testifying In hearings, I see people talking about what the Deep State's plans are.
I see people revealing classified information about corruption.
It's always the same thing.
And a lot of times, what I just see is, I see the good guys, the white hats, The good people in the military and in the intelligence community who are always staying two or three steps ahead of the bad guys.
That's what I've seen day after day, week after week, month after month.
When I go to sleep in the afternoon, invariably, when I have a dream, it will show me The behind-the-scenes things that are happening, where the good people are outsmarting the bad people and staying a couple steps ahead of them.
All this summer and the spring when it looked like Joe Biden and Obama and, you know, and the cabal had the upper hand, God kept showing me they don't actually have the upper hand.
They're being set up and it's eventually going to come to fruition.
And now, Now that Durham is unsealing more indictments in the Spygate investigation, now we're seeing tangible results that have reason to give us hope.
You read these indictments that are coming out of Durham's investigation, and you can see that You know, by the evidence he's putting out, he's going to indict five or six more people.
With every indictment that comes out, you see, oh, Christopher Steele's gonna get indicted.
Oh, it looks like Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS is gonna get indicted.
Oh, looks like Mark Elias from Perkins Coie, he's probably gonna get indicted, because all this information is coming out, and it all incriminates all these people.
So I am very hopeful about the takedown and exposure of corruption because now we're seeing tangible evidence.
Okay, let me stop you because this is what we've heard for, this is what we've seen for years now.
These people never pay.
They never ever pay the price.
We have an example right now where Kyle Rittenhouse is on trial for murder for double murder.
We have the the Q shaman who got put away for four years for walking into the Capitol.
Meanwhile, we have high level treasonous crimes.
that have been committed.
And we have all of the evidence.
We have Hillary Clinton walking free, we have Loretta Lynch, we have Susan Rice, we have the Podestas.
And the question that everybody has is, will these people ever see a day behind bars?
Or will our country just continue to devolve into lawlessness?
And so I know I have faith.
However, even my faith is challenged by this.
And so I want to go from, I want to pose that question to you, but also for the people who really think nothing is happening.
I know that there's, you know, I don't know if we're ever going to see Hillary behind bars.
I hope so.
But is there, can you give us some hope?
Not hopium, just what is it that's really happening here?
Yeah, so I have been studying Spygate, Rushigate, whatever you want to call it, since 2016.
Actually, before Q was posting in 2016, I was doing Periscope broadcasts.
You probably remember this.
Nightly Periscope broadcasts on the investigation that Devin Nunez in the House Intelligence Committee was doing into the surveillance of Trump.
This is late 2016.
Again, because God I highlighted that subject, put it on my radar, and was like, you need to start paying attention to this stuff.
And I was like, okay, I'll start paying attention to it.
So I started digging in and following what was happening with Devin Nunez and his investigation of Spygate.
Right.
That's kind of how we met, isn't it?
What's that?
I think that's kind of how we met, is we were both...
Reporting on that and our paths crossed and then we actually met.
Yeah, we had some people in common that we knew.
James, right?
And some other people back then who were trying to connect the dots.
Yeah.
So we have known for a long time that the FBI and the DOJ and the White House and the State Department and the CIA, MI6.
Did you forget the FBI?
FBI.
They all sort of colluded In a coordinated effort to smear Donald Trump to try to make sure he didn't get elected.
And then after he was elected, their strategy changed to try to remove him from office.
They literally plotted to remove a duly elected president.
Okay.
They, they attempted to overthrow a sitting president.
Okay.
So.
Not too smart.
When you're talking about people who are at the heads of government agencies, Andrew McCabe, he was Deputy Director of the FBI.
James Comey, he was Director of the FBI.
Brennan, Director of CIA.
Clapper, Director of National Intelligence, right?
All these people.
Laura Lynch, right?
Mueller, Robert Mueller is actually up to his neck in trouble too.
Because Mueller was the head of the FBI prior to Comey.
And what happened under Mueller's reign at the FBI was the sale of the company Uranium One to the Russian company Rosatom.
And the Uranium One scandal is a massive Money laundering scandal that, according to Q, looks like it was also designed to funnel uranium to Syria, North Korea, and Iran to allow them to develop nuclear weapons.
And the FBI and DOJ signed off on it.
They couldn't arm their nuclear weapons without uranium, correct?
Correct.
OK.
There was a moratorium on selling uranium to those countries.
So it looks like, according to Q, John McCain facilitated the transfer of some uranium from the Uranium One deal.
Some of that uranium got funneled into Syria and Iran covertly and illegally.
To help them build their nuclear weapons program, right?
And that's just one of them.
But Mueller was ahead of the FBI at that time when they got, when it was signed off.
And Holder was Attorney General.
So this is one of the things that Durham is investigating that a lot of people don't know.
People kind of forgot about that.
Yeah.
So the thing is, U.S.
Attorney Huber has been investigating the Clinton Foundation going back to 2016.
When he finished his investigation of the Clinton Foundation, that got turned over to Durham.
And along with investigating the Clinton Foundation and all the pay for play and the corruption there, the Uranium One scandal is sort of in the middle of that because Hillary was Secretary of State.
And a lot of the money that was donated to the Clinton Foundation on behalf of other nations, pay for play, a lot of that money was connected to the Uranium One scandal.
I'm not going to go into the details, but those are the kind of things that Durham and Huber and other U.S. attorneys have been investigating for almost five years.
So we're talking about selling Uranium illegally to foreign countries to build nuclear weapons collectively.
Countries that were under... It was illegal to sell uranium to them.
Right, yeah.
We're talking about Hillary Clinton, who had an unsecured server, who had special access programs, the most highly classified documents, in the government.
She had them on her server and we have reason to believe she was selling them to foreign governments.
Now, special access programs contain information like the deployment of SEAL teams.
Okay, that's the kind of information contained in a special access program.
Hillary was selling that information to foreign countries.
Treason.
You've got people like James Comey and Andrew McCabe who knowingly submitted applications to the FISA court to surveil Carter Page claiming he was a Russian asset.
Knowing full well at the time that Carter Page was working with the FBI on several cases and he was also working with the CIA, Carter Page had been a confidential human source for the CIA and the FBI going back to 2009.
Comey knew it, McCabe knew it, they had just before they issued the first FISA application Page had just helped testify in a case where they charged three Russians, right?
Page was a source for the FBI.
They then claimed he was a Russian spy and surveilled him.
They knew he wasn't a Russian spy.
It's ridiculous.
They thought he was a Russian spy.
They wouldn't have had him working for them as a confidential human source.
So Comey and McCabe knowingly submitted false information to a FISA court to surveil the Trump campaign, right?
As Hannity has said a million times over the last four years, unpremeditated fraud on the FISA Court.
That is at minimum what Comey and McCabe can be charged for.
But again, they were complicit in a plot to remove a duly elected president.
They attempted to overthrow the sitting president.
Well, that, that was the first plot.
And they, because they're, um, cause they worked in government and they were the heads of agencies.
Okay.
They swore an oath to defend the constitution.
And I think it's going to be shown at some point that foreign governments were involved in this attempt to overthrow Trump.
And if Durham can prove that foreign governments try to overthrow a sitting U.S.
President, everybody who helped out in that process can be charged with treason, sedition, or subversive activities.
And that's where military tribunals come in, correct?
What's that?
That's where military tribunals come in.
That's where when you're able to... Because a lot of people don't understand that If you read the statute on treason, sedition, and subversive activities, one of the subversive activities listed in there is using the press in an attempt to overthrow the government.
And the media knew the information they were putting out was false, and they were aiding and abetting An attempted coup of a sitting president.
Right.
Right.
Oh, you know what?
I wouldn't want to be the members of the media when Durham starts unsealing indictments because they could all be charged under that statute.
Interesting how Brian Williams just stepped down.
I think Hillary's going to be charged.
I think Podesta's going to be charged.
I think Podesta's day is coming pretty soon because Podesta was the campaign manager for Hillary in 2016.
And Durham right now, the indictments that he's unsealing have to do with how Clinton's campaign colluded with actual Russians to smear Trump, right?
I mean, Danchenko and Sussman were essentially taking orders from people higher up the food chain in Perkins Coie and in the Hillary campaign.
I would imagine one of the next people to be indicted is probably going to be Mark Elias.
So Mark Elias is an attorney.
He was a partner with Perkins Coie.
Perkins Coie, big law firm, did a lot of work for the Clinton campaign.
I would imagine Mark Elias and Sussman and probably Podesta, the three of them.
And let's not forget our current National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan.
Oh, yeah.
So Jake Sullivan was Hillary's foreign policy advisor at the time, and Sullivan's a pretty smart guy.
He's always been considered a pretty sharp political operative.
I would imagine Jake Sullivan and Podesta probably quarterbacked the smear campaign of Trump.
What about Anthony Blinken?
Is he implicated?
Oh, Blinken.
Oh my gosh, that dude.
Secretary of State, guys.
Secretary of State.
I would imagine Tony Blinken is going to be implicated.
I'm trying to just rack my brain now of what he might be charged with.
Right.
All of these people.
are culpable.
And the indictments that Durham has already unsealed, the speaking indictments, they all shed light on the criminality of these people, including Podesta.
Because like I said, you know, we're talking about, we're very close to probably getting some indictments coming from people directly in the Clinton campaign, and Podesta is at the top of the food chain.
So if they start indicting people, Who are low level players in the Clinton campaign for 2016.
Eventually, they're going to work their way up to getting people like Podesta.
Now, I know a lot of people want to see John Podesta get arrested for all the other stuff that he did.
Yeah, but but it's a start.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to fast.
I want to stop you just for a second because I want to ask you something.
We're talking about the crimes that were committed in 2015, 2016.
Here we are in 2021, going into 2022.
And if I'm reading the room, I'm looking at my people and I know they're thinking, okay, that's just one little threat.
I mean, it's a massive one, but that's just like one thing.
We're not even in 2020 yet.
And the crimes that we have witnessed, that we have been witness to, let's just leave COVID out of it.
Let's just deal with everything else.
You know, the election theft, all of this stuff, the Ukraine impeachment, the January 6 impeachment.
I mean, all of this, just realistically, you know, somebody in the comments saying, oh, I just wish it wouldn't take so long, you know, to convict anyone, right?
Well, I have a picture in my head that I think might explain to people the magnitude of what we're dealing with.
You and I talked about this last night.
We are at war.
This is not a one-and-done wrap-up episode of your favorite intrigue TV show.
This is war.
But I have a picture, as you were talking, I'm thinking about a James Michener novel.
Does everybody remember James Michener?
He couldn't write a short novel.
Every book was this thick.
So if we're looking at all of the corruption that we know to exist, just from the time that Trump walked down the escalator to now, how many Michener volumes do you think would be produced?
Even just with evidence.
I want to give people perspective on what we're dealing with here.
There is no quick conviction here.
This is not a reckless driving charge.
We're dealing with so many threads.
How many volumes do you think we're dealing with right now?
Thick.
James Michener.
Yeah, well, if you think that A 6,000 year old death cult is going to be destroyed in one weekend.
That's a good way of putting it.
Realistic expectations.
Yeah.
It's a cabal, right?
This is a cabal.
These people, these families, these institutions and agencies that, you know, the central bank system, the Federal Reserve, Uh, the Rothschilds family, George Soros, the Rockefellers, right?
All the banksters and the gangsters of the deep state, the military industrial complex that You know, we were warned about by Eisenhower and Kennedy.
This massive corrupt ring of people who are in power has been around for a long freaking time.
And we are not going to destroy this thing and dismantle it in a couple of months or a couple of years.
It's going to take a long time for us to chop this thing down, to get down to the root, pull it out of the root and destroy it.
It's not going to happen quickly.
If you're thinking that, you know, you're just going to wake up one day and it's all going to be over, you know, in the next couple of months, it's not going to be over in a couple of months.
You might have to go back to sleep for a lot longer.
You might have to go back to sleep for a while.
Look, if Q had told us up front how long it was going to take for all this stuff to start, for us to start seeing prosecutions, most of us would never have gotten on board.
Yeah.
You know, we're all kind of waiting.
We want the quick fix.
You know, we want just rip the band-aid off and get it over with.
Yeah.
That's not how it's going to happen.
I think there are going to be some suddenlies.
Okay.
Potentially in the next few months.
I think there are going to be some sudden events that will happen that are going to shock people.
Now you're getting ahead of my next question.
Can I interrupt?
We're on the same wavelength here, obviously.
Okay, so last year at this time, we were going to stop the steel rallies.
We were watching with rapt attention as Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell started to expose some of this corruption that we saw in key cities around the country with regard to the election.
And, you know, many of us, me included, had faith that this would be turned around and that President Trump would not leave the Oval Office, that he would be sworn in again in January of 2021.
We all know that didn't happen.
One of the things that I explained when I was talking about his role, not knowing what I know now about devolution, I explained to everybody, I said, as Commander-in-Chief, If President Trump steps aside and leaves the country into the hands of these traitors and to the enemy, he's actually surrendering our country.
And that would be unconscionable for him to do that.
And and then lo and behold, you know, he flew away on January 20th and everybody took a big swallow of a big black pill and thought, what in the heck is happening?
I was in D.C.
and it was cold and it was snowing and it was like bone chillingly gray and cold.
And there we were.
And the people that I was with were being, you know, were about to be maybe visited by the FBI.
So the tension and the disappointment was just palpable.
And so there we were watching our Commander-in-Chief seemingly leave and abandon our country to the enemy, which is what I had been reassuring people wouldn't happen.
Now, a year in, Almost a year in, we're getting some information about something called devolution, which would lead me to believe, and you, that he didn't actually surrender our country.
And so I think that's where you were going in your conversation, and I just want to hand you the baton.
Tell us why you think that, and why You believe that President Trump did not surrender our country to the enemy?
Well, the idea of devolution is based on a lot of circumstantial evidence.
It's not hopium.
And devolution is a real thing.
You can look up all the documents.
If you read the executive orders and read The laws that have been passed, bills in the legislature, and if you look at executive orders, not just the ones that Trump signed, but the ones that Obama put into effect, devolution is a real thing.
You can't say devolution is some imaginary concept that people just dreamed up.
It's a real thing.
You can look it up.
Devolution is the idea of taking a centralized government, And devolving the power structure into regional or local entities.
So it's taking a centralized government and taking that power and just distributing it out among local and regional entities.
A lot of it has to do with continuity of government and continuity of command.
a lot of it has to do with the military command and control, maintaining control of the military in wartime and in times of crisis.
It has to do with maintaining operational stability of essential government functions.
That's really the thing to kind of focus in on devolution.
There are certain essential functions that government has to provide, and these are identified in those executive orders that Obama and Trump signed.
Essential government functions in wartime and in times of crisis, in times where the federal government is under attack or being threatened, There are steps, safeguards put in place to ensure that these essential functions are going to be carried out by people who know what they're doing.
Okay, that's the idea of devolution.
Like I said, it's not a fantasy.
It's not something we dreamed up.
It's a real thing.
The question is whether or not Trump has activated and we are currently under a devolved form of government or not.
That's the million dollar question?
That's the million dollar question.
So Patel, Patriot, and a number of other people, Thomas Wichter, and other people, have been speculating for about a year that Trump actually implemented the plan of devolution.
He activated it.
And that we have actually been living under a devolved form of government for the last year.
And most people don't know it.
And, like I said, that premise is based on a bunch of circumstantial evidence.
Like, why, for example, two days after the election last November, did Trump lop off the head of the Pentagon and replace everybody at the top of the Defense Department?
All right.
He got rid of Esper.
He got rid of a bunch of undersecretaries.
He appointed Chris Miller as Acting Secretary of Defense.
He put in Kash Patel as his Chief of Staff.
He put in Anthony Tada as Undersecretary for Policy.
And he put in Ezra Cohen Watnick as Undersecretary for Intelligence.
Why?
If Trump is just going to leave the White House in two months, big nothing burger, hey, you know, nice seeing y'all.
I'm out of here.
I'm going to Mar-a-Lago.
I'm just going to live my life.
Why the heck would Trump go through all the trouble to replace all the people at the top of the Pentagon?
Doesn't make any sense.
Right.
And then Chris Miller and Ezra Cohen Watnick and Kash Patel Made some significant changes to the chain of command for Special Forces.
Right.
He took them out of the chain of command of the Washington bureaucracy and put them directly under civilian command.
And by the way, just so you know, the Secretary of Defense and all of his undersecretaries, they're not members of the military, they're civilians.
And Chris Miller and Ezra Cohen Watnick took special forces away from the military chain of command and put them directly under their chain of command.
So you have to wonder, why did they do that?
Right, so Patel Patriot goes into all these, he just digs up all these documents that show how some very interesting things were happening in November of December of last year.
It kind of suggests that Trump was up to something with the military.
Yeah, making some moves.
They were they were making some changes, none of which makes any sense if Trump is just going to go to Mar-a-Lago and live out his life.
Well, clearly he's not.
He's not doing that.
If you follow the documents and follow the evidence, it appears as though Trump was was actively doing something, making some contingency plans with the military.
And that's why we're talking about devolution.
The idea that maybe, you know, Well, the essential theory is that Trump understood the election was going to be stolen.
Yeah.
That Trump knew it was going to be probably stolen with the aid of China or at the request of China.
And if you know that a foreign government that you've been at war with In an undeclared war for the last four years, if you know that your adversary is going to steal an election to try to remove you from power, it would be irresponsible not to put in place some safeguards to prevent the results of that election from actually harming the country.
Now Trump has assured us on several occasions that the election, well first he's told us that he has all the evidence and then he's also said that the elections are going to get fixed.
And a lot of people don't believe that, and they're questioning why.
They're also questioning how in the world could the military be in charge, because we've got the Millies of the world, the soy boys running around talking about critical race theory.
We have a woke military.
How in the world is it possible that the military is going to help Trump?
That anybody in the military is listening to him or supporting him?
Well, you also know that there are four-star generals in the military, like Charles Flynn, who is command of the Army in the Pacific.
So, not all of the people in the military are woke.
Actually, I would bet that 80% of the people in the military, in uniform, are patriots.
And there's a relatively small minority who are woke-tards.
And some of the vocal woke-tards at the top, like Millie, are running their mouths.
And they're kind of making people think that the military has gone soft.
I think we're going to find out relatively soon how soft the military has not become.
Can you elaborate on that?
Yeah.
Do you care to?
If you know anything about government, how the government is structured, The government and, in particular, the intelligence agencies and the Pentagon are highly siloed in their information, in their missions, in their overall operability.
Government agencies in general, the Pentagon in particular, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
Okay, so here's an example.
If you take the 10th Mountain Division, which is out of New York, an army group, they don't necessarily know what SEAL Team 2 is doing right now.
Because what SEAL Teams do is highly classified information.
That information is only given to people who have a need to know and people who have the proper security clearance to know what SEAL Team 2 or SEAL Team 3 is doing on any given day.
It's all highly classified information.
It's siloed.
SEAL Teams, their operational actions are controlled and no one knows what those teams are doing.
If they don't have a need to know, they don't have that security clearance.
Even though members of this people who are all in the Army or in the Marines or in the Navy, all are sort of part of the same core.
They don't all know what each other are doing.
I guarantee you, SEAL Team 2 doesn't know what the Trident submarines up in at the Bangor sub base in Washington are doing right now.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
That's naval fleet, submarines, nuclear submarines are highly compartmentalized.
Their information, what they do, their missions, it's all kept secret.
So all of that is to say that What the military does, what its missions are, what its operations are all about, is highly compartmentalized and it's tightly confined.
And it is controlled at the top by regional combatant commanders.
It's not actually controlled by the Secretary of Defense.
So in There's regions, right?
So you got Pacific Command.
It's actually Indo-Pacific Command.
Now they changed the name of it.
You've got Northern Command.
You've got Southern Command.
You've got Africa Command.
You've got Central Command.
All of these are different regional headquarters for the military.
And the generals that rule over those are ultimately responsible.
The four-star generals are the combatant commanders.
They have control over their region.
There's also Cyber Command, which is not a region.
It's It's cyber security.
Do you think that those combatant commanders are the ones that are Sony is the is the combatant commander for cyber command.
And then you got other other command, right?
Those generals, there's there's 11 of them, I believe, those generals are the ones who are in control of regional commands for theaters of operation.
And they're the ones who actually control and determine what their regional military operations are going to be on a day-to-day basis.
Whether or not the Secretary of Defense is giving orders to them, that's where the control is actually at for the military.
It's not necessarily coming from the Secretary of Defense.
Got it, got it.
And it's definitely not coming from the Joint Chiefs.
So Milley, for example, has no command authority in the military.
Milley is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The Joint Chiefs is an advisory board that gives advice to the President.
They have no command authority.
Interesting.
Zero.
So when it comes to the current situation and devolution, I believe Patel Patriot said that he thinks that these combatant commanders have been tasked with the job, that they're heads of the devolved government and they're working under Trump.
They may be some of the only people who know that we're under a devolved government.
If, um, if the devolved government under Trump as a, as the legitimate commander in chief needed to take action, they would be the ones to be notified.
Um, it's, it's possible that the combatant commanders are aware of devolution and the secretary of defense may not be aware of it.
Okay.
Secretary of defense is a civilian.
You don't have a need to know.
People have talked about a scenario in which the military would come into Washington, D.C.
and remove the Brandon regime from the White House.
And some people just say there's no scenario in which that's going to happen.
I know that General Flynn has been asked about it, and he says, no, that's not going to happen.
Of course, that's the answer that he has to give.
If that were in fact going to happen, there's no way Flynn would admit it if he knew about it.
Right.
What's your take on that?
Well, the spiritual intelligence that I've received says that actually is going to happen.
And I can't say that the military is going to come rolling in to DC and remove Biden from office.
I do have reason to believe that the military is going to start cracking some skulls And making life hard for the DC swamp in the very near future.
I first, I started having those dreams about that in on January 17th last year.
Interesting.
Actually, January 17th of this year.
It was actually, it was the same night.
Did you listen to that message from Dutch Sheets?
About the dream that the woman had where she saw Kamala Harris about to be inaugurated.
And a member of the military came into the room and stopped them from inaugurating her.
I missed that one.
That's interesting.
Oh my gosh.
Right.
So if you go back to, I think that broadcast was on, I was on January 21st of this last January.
That woman had that dream on January 17th, the same night I had the dreams about the military storms.
So So in my dream, I saw military storms moving in to the Gulf of Mexico.
And I saw these three, um, cyclones down in the Gulf of Mexico lined up east to west.
And I was aware that these, they were just storms and they were caused by the military.
And the funny thing about it was, I saw these storms, and I saw a number of scenes in this dream, but in the first scene, I saw these storms spinning in the Gulf of Mexico.
And I knew in the dream that the water from these storms was moving from the southwest corner of the map to the northeast corner of the map.
Interesting.
Right.
And the Southwest, what I thought that the interpretation of that was that it starts in Arizona and it ends in Washington, D.C.
in the Northeast.
Arizona, Southwest.
There's there's a bunch of other scenes in the dream, and I had several dreams after that over the next couple of months that showed the military establishing communications networks.
I saw the military in one dream addressing corruption in higher education.
Right?
So it was a series of dreams that showed the military addressing corruption in various aspects of society.
So to the people who think the military is sitting on their asses doing nothing, being woke-tards, I think God's going to have some surprises for us in the coming year.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, one of the things that you and one of the things you and I talked about last night was the fact that, you know, some people have a very linear idea of how things are going to work.
And You know, it's not uncommon throughout history, every time God has had a victory, it's been done in such a way that nobody would have ever thought of it.
And I talked about this on the show.
Is this your plan?
Are you kidding me?
This is never going to work!
Yeah, like that's a dumb plan.
And I feel like we're in that place, and you know, we've heard some of the prophets have talked about this.
Johnny Enlow, Robin Bullock, we've heard them say, and Kat Kerr and others, this is going to be a God victory.
We're going to see God move in such a way that everybody has to look at what's happened and say, only God.
There's no way.
Right now, I I think it's safe to say that most people are looking at what's going on and saying, this is stupid.
This is a stupid plan.
It's never going to work.
And I just want to remind people that, hey, welcome to history.
God has never really needed the advice of the people to figure out the best plan.
He's the one who gives people the revelation.
When we ask for wisdom and revelation, That's what we're asking for.
I'm sure the people who are watching David pick up some stones from the brook and take his slingshot out there against Goliath were thinking, that's a great plan!
Yeah, exactly.
God, can we talk?
Right.
And that's something that I've been trying to emphasize here on the show is, you know, in general, the plans that we come up with, or that we think are going to happen, like people who just think that it's all going to be over in a matter of, you know, a weekend, or that it's going to happen this way or this way.
It's just not, that's not the way it is.
And, and what I've, what I've noticed, is that, you know, God does call people to pick up a mantle and to take on a task.
That's what Trump did.
Trump was willing to participate.
He was willing to lay down his life, his honor, his sacred, his fortune, his sacred honor to do this, to bring the country back.
And I've noticed that there, that You know, people think, there are people who think that it was a failed mission, that he failed.
I happen to think that he's just, he was regrouping and that, you know, he's still working and he's actually going to be more effective when he comes back than he was before.
Well, here's something to think about.
Okay.
The media has portrayed Trump as an absolute failure as a president.
Okay, so think about this.
Trump steps out of the Oval Office for a year and allows Joe Biden to take over.
Now the media has to try to spin all the epic failures of the mumbler-in-chief, right?
The world is getting to see what an actual failure is in a presidency.
By the time Trump comes back, people are going to be begging for him to come back to the White House because they're going to be paying $18 a gallon for gas, $9 a pound for pork chops.
People are going to be begging for Trump to return because Joe Biden, in his incompetence and or corruption, is intentionally trying to destroy the country.
That's what they're trying to do.
You can't Destroy the country as fast as they have done it unless you're doing it intentionally.
Yeah, we know because Schwab was nice enough to come out there with his great reset and tell us all about their plan to destroy capitalism.
They have an intentional plan.
They want to destroy Western capitalism.
They want to destroy our economy, destroy the markets, destroy jobs, destroy everything about Western capitalism and replace it with socialism.
You will own nothing.
And you will be happy.
That's their plan.
Yeah.
You will own nothing and you'll be happy.
We have a retaliation for that.
It's called the resist.
And it goes, you will own no one and you'll be sad.
Exactly.
Not gonna own us.
But, but here's, here's the thing that I want to, you know, just put it out there to people who are struggling with taking some meaning from this and some purpose what they can do.
All right.
There's, there's two ways that this movie is going to end.
There's two possibilities.
Either The either the deep state, the cabal, the bad guys are going to enslave the entire world in their digital gulag.
And your brain is going to be wired up to Zuckerberg's, you know, Facebook or Google's digital, you know, ghetto.
They're going to try to enslave us.
They're going to try to take away your property, put you in a high rise ghetto, Limit your ability to travel.
Feed you whatever, you know, sickening, disgusting, artificial protein-like meat substance that they're going to feed you.
They want to enslave our planet.
It is every science fiction movie you've ever seen in the last 20 years coming into reality.
That's what they want to do.
They want to enslave us and they want to strip the resources of the world Get rich off of it and have power over us.
There is a possibility that they might get what they want, but that is what they want.
The other possibility is that we stand up as a citizenry, as they're doing in Australia and in Europe, and we push back and we refuse to let them enslave us.
Now, Some people have this attitude, like you mentioned, that they're supposed to just sit back and let the good guys come in on their silver horse and win the battle and we don't have to do anything.
Well, I got news for you.
If you think you're going to sit back and do nothing and win the battle, you're going to lose.
As General Flynn often says, our country is a participatory experiment.
Our country was never designed to be run by a bunch of corrupt politicians from Washington, D.C.
It was designed to have all of us participate in the process.
And the reason we're in the situation we're in right now is because we checked out, decided we'd rather play Halo with our friends, get lost in our video games, check out, go to our little, you know, watch Paula Deen.
Uh and decorate our house while the cabal is enslaving us in their digital gulag.
We have abdicated our responsibility to be involved and if we do not take back that responsibility we are going to end up prisoners and it's going to be a very dark ending for this movie.
Wow.
I don't think that's going to happen.
I think we're going to win Because I think people are waking up as we watch what these corruptocrats are doing.
They're doing all these lockdowns in Europe.
They're going to eventually bring more lockdowns back here if they get their chance.
They're going to try to enslave us and people are not going to take it.
We have to be vocal.
We have to be loud.
We have to stand up.
We have to assert our freedoms and let them know we're not going to take it.
We have to take our employers to court if they try to force us to get vaccinated.
We have to take action.
On social media, going down to your school board, going down to the courthouse and filing a lawsuit against your employer.
Look, right now, if your employer is telling you that you have to be vaccinated, OSHA has stopped the enforcement and implementation of Biden's vaccine mandate because they got halted by the Fifth Circuit Court.
They're probably going to get stomped curb stomped hard by the Sixth Circuit Court.
And OSHA is their mandate is going to be toast.
If they're dumb enough to take it to the Supreme Court, they'll probably lose other mandates that they try to force down our throats.
If your employer is telling you right now that you need to be vaccinated, you should hire an attorney and file a lawsuit against your employer because they have no legal authority to do it.
It doesn't mean they won't do it.
It doesn't mean they'll be stupid and try to and try to force people to be vaccinated.
But they have no legal authority to do it.
And if you take them to court, you're going to win.
Because they have no legal authority to do it.
They just don't.
Yeah.
You know, and those are the things that we should be doing.
Yeah.
Well, Dave, listen, I could talk to you all day.
You've already missed your nap.
And you came on at the last minute when my other guest had to bow out.
And I so, so appreciate the comments.
Everybody is just so happy listening to you.
They're very complimentary.
And I want to ask you just one quick question before I let you go.
I would love to have you back on the show because I think this is just tremendous.
I think people are getting so much out of it.
One quick question because, you know, you mentioned quite often about dreams.
And, you know, you started out writing books about healing, about prayer, about hearing God.
And this is something it could, it's somewhat of a controversial topic, even among Christians, especially if somebody is saddled with a religious spirit.
Can you just give us a brief explanation of what does that mean?
You're saying you had a dream.
For the layperson who really hasn't dabbled or dipped their feet into what we would call the modern-day prophetic, we're going to talk about this more on another show because I want to unpack it, but just give us a little teaser and a taste.
And also, you have a book about hearing from God, so I'd love you to tell people how to find that.
I have a lot of books.
Well, Hearing God's Voice Made Simple.
That was the one I was thinking about.
Yeah.
So there's a series of books, and they're all the made simple books, right?
So this is the fifth book in the series.
This is Dream Interpretation Made Simple.
Okay, the book that I published prior to this one is Hearing God's Voice Made Simple.
There is a book called Seeing in the Spirit Made Simple, and there's a book called Divine Healing Made Simple.
And if you really want to get out there, there's a Traveling in the Spirit Made Simple.
It's a biblical view of all these subjects.
And just kind of a little expository teaching on what the Bible teaches on traveling in the Spirit.
Did you know that Elijah and Elisha and the New Testament apostles traveled in the Spirit on a pretty regular basis?
It's in the Scriptures.
Oh, yes.
Remember when Philip was hanging out with the eunuch?
The Holy Spirit told him, go chase down that eunuch, get up in the chariot with him.
He's reading the book of Isaiah.
And the eunuch asks Philip, well, who is he speaking about here?
Is he speaking about the Messiah or himself?
And Philip says he's speaking about the Messiah.
And Philip preaches the gospel to him.
He says, I believe can I be baptized and Philip says sure stop the chariot like there's a ditch full of water I'll baptize you right now.
So they get out Philip baptizes them in the ditch and then the spirit picks up Philip and takes him Dozens of miles away to another city and drops him down where there's a revival going on.
That's right.
Yeah Here's another one and I forget I think this is in I think it might be in John's Gospel, but it could be in Mark's.
So there's a very interesting passage where the disciples are in a boat, and they're on the Sea of Galilee, and Jesus is walking on the water, and they invite him to come into the boat.
And it says they had been rowing for several hours, and they were about in the middle of the Sea of Galilee.
Right?
So Sea of Galilee is about five miles across.
They were about two to three miles out.
Jesus steps in the boat, and it says immediately the boat was at land where they were going.
All right.
Jesus supernaturally transported the entire boat all the way across the sea by getting in it.
Nice.
That's just a couple of examples.
So that's the Traveling the Spirit book.
I have a book called Hearing God's Voice, and it's really, it's a book about relationships.
It is teaching about how to develop a stronger relationship with God, to learn how to hear his voice in the many ways in which he speaks.
God speaks through music, through art, through film, through weather, through circumstances of our life.
He speaks through the still, small voice.
He speaks through dreams.
He speaks through visions.
God speaks in a lot of different ways.
That book, Hearing God's Voice Made Simple, is about that.
The book on dream interpretation.
All right.
I did not have dreams for 25 years.
I stopped having dreams when I was about 21 years old.
And then about 25 years later, I literally did not have dreams for 25 years at all.
No dreams, not even ones that I just forgot.
I never had, I didn't have dreams.
Started having dreams in 2008.
And then that first dream that I had on August 8th, 2008, I met God.
And he told me he wanted me to pray for my patients.
So that's an amazing reintroduction to dreams.
Wow.
Yes.
Yes.
What a gift.
And I started looking through the scriptures and realized, holy crap, there's dreams all throughout the Bible.
So if you go to Genesis, Genesis has some really amazing dreams.
Isaac had some very interesting dreams.
Jacob had some very interesting dreams.
Jacob's ladder, right?
Jacob fell asleep by the river Jabbok.
When he went up, fell asleep in the dream, he saw the angels of God ascending and descending on a ladder, right?
Joseph was a dreamer and a dream interpreter.
Joseph interpreted the dreams of Pharaoh as a coming famine, and he saved Egypt by interpreting Pharaoh's dreams.
Daniel was... most of the book of Daniel is interpretations of dreams and visions.
You look through Daniel 2, Daniel 4, Daniel 10, 11, 12.
It's visions and dreams that people have had and the angels are helping Daniel interpret these dreams and visions.
Joseph was warned in a dream that Mary was going to have a baby and that the baby was going to be divinely conceived.
Joseph was also warned to take the baby Jesus down to Egypt because Herod was going to try to kill him.
And then when he got to Egypt, an angel came in a dream and warned him it was safe to go back.
A lot of key elements in the Bible were given to people in dreams.
And God has been speaking to me in dreams for about 11 years now, 12 years.
And God gives me very specific understanding about certain situations.
A lot of the things that are going on with President Trump and the prosecution of corruption in the deep state, God gives me dreams and explains to me things that are coming.
I think we're going to have some kind of big issue with the internet in the not-too-distant future.
Why?
Because I've had like 13 or 14 dreams in the last year.
that illustrate significant communication problems coming to us.
Problems with email, problems with social media, problems with the internet.
Communicating is going to become much more difficult in the near future.
And I just know that because God continually shows me things.
I had another dream last night about that issue.
That's what was in the dream last night.
So when I talk about dreams, I mean, if you're not I'm familiar with that.
You should allow God, you should ask God to give you dreams and show you the things he wants to show you.
You'll be amazed at what he'll show you about your life, relationships, your job, your calling, your destiny, your gifting.
God will show you incredible things through dreams.
Now, people say often they can't remember their dreams, and I've heard you teach about this before.
What is the key to remembering your dreams and then Developing your dream life.
Yeah there.
Let's see.
Jesus kind of explained this.
In.
Matthew 13.
And it's it's in the kingdom parables.
Jesus had been teaching.
Through parables, right?
So there's all these kingdom parables and then the disciples asking why do you teach through parables?
And he said, because to you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom.
But to them, speaking of the religious leaders, the Pharisees and scribes, to them it has not been given.
Okay?
And to whoever has, he will be given more, but to whoever has not, even what he has will be taken away from him.
Right.
All right.
What Jesus was getting at there is he's talking about revelation from God and how we are appetite for revelation.
Jesus told the disciples, because you are interested, because you have an appetite for knowing the mysteries of God's kingdom, you are going to be given more.
But because they do not have an appetite, For revelation about God's kingdom, even what little they have is going to be taken from them.
Right?
So, what I have noticed, and I've got a lot of testimonies from people that have just written me and talked to me about this, as people start to read books on dream interpretation, as they start to write their dreams down, they start having more dreams.
If you take your dreams seriously, You will have more dreams.
I know of three people now who have purchased my book and immediately started having dreams, like on a regular basis, when they never had dreams on a regular basis before then.
What they're doing is, in faith, they purchased the book and they thought, okay, I want to learn about dreams.
So, because they decided they're going to take an interest in their dream life, God is now going to give them dreams.
They're going to read about the interpretations, and they'll learn to interpret the dreams through the book.
But God is rewarding them with more revelation because they're taking an interest in it.
If you take a serious interest in something, God will teach you about it.
Regardless of what it is, if you're interested in politics and current events, and you ask God for wisdom and understanding, He'll give it to you, through a lot of different ways.
So, what I would say for people who can't remember their dreams is, this is just, it's discipline, and that's what it is.
You have to develop a disciplined life.
Where you don't do anything in the morning when you wake up before you write down your dream.
Do not go to the bathroom.
Do not get a drink of water.
Do not turn off your alarm.
Write down the dream, whatever it was that you dream before you do anything, write it down.
Because as soon as you get up, start walking around, get your coffee, go to the bathroom, check in on your phone and see what the news is, you're going to forget the dream.
The reason people forget their dreams is dreams are spiritual.
Dreams are spiritual revelation and your spirit is only able to hang on to that revelation for a period of time.
Well, I should say your soul, your mind, is only able to hang on to that revelation for a short period of time.
Once you become awake, your higher faculties of your brain start to think about the events, where you're going, what you're going to do, what you're going to have for breakfast, what's happening in the news.
All those things cloud your mind and the dream is forgotten.
Your spirit retains it, but your mind forgets it.
And that's how you know that dreams actually don't come from your soul.
Because your soul will very quickly forget a dream.
Your spirit doesn't forget it.
Your spirit retains that dream.
It has it there.
But most people can't access their spirit very easily from their soul, so they forget it.
That's why it's very important.
As soon as you wake up from a dream, write it down.
Don't do anything.
Just write it down.
And get in the discipline of writing down your dreams.
Journal them.
Put something on your nightstand that will allow you to record your dreams.
You will start to remember your dreams more.
And it's not an issue of remembering them.
It's a discipline of recording them.
Because you won't forget them throughout the day.
I mean, 20 minutes later, you're going to forget the dream you just wrote down.
But at least you'll have it written down.
So you can go back and go, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now I remember what it was.
So that's a really good distinction you just said.
It's not a question of remembering it.
It's a question of developing the discipline to record it.
Yeah, and so it's really more like a data point that you record, as opposed to something that you're trying to... I mean, if you're driving your car, and you're going through a town, and you jot down on a notepad, oh look, there's a bar at 7th Avenue, you write that down, and you keep driving, oh look, there's a bowling alley on 6th Avenue, and you write that down, and then you keep driving, and you say, oh, there's a little lady crossing the street here on 1st Avenue, you write that down.
You may drive for three more days and forget completely about what happened in that little tiny town, but if you go back to your journal and read what you wrote, oh yeah, I remember the bar, and I remember the bowling alley, and I remember the little old lady that crossed the street.
Why?
Because you wrote it down when it happened.
Yes.
You'll forget it later on, but if you write it down when it happens, it'll always be there.
Interesting.
Well, thank you for that explanation.
That's very helpful.
Can you tell our listeners, first of all, where they can follow you on the internet, how they can find you online?
Until they pull the interwebs down all around us, you can find me on pragmatic.com.
That's my main website.
I have a lot of tabs there.
My books are available there on my website.
My videos are available there.
My podcasts are available.
My articles.
If you're interested in learning about Q, I've got a tab there that goes to Q posts.
You can read all of Q's posts or read some if you want.
I have over 200 Q videos that are available now on an archived page.
If you go to the Q videos tab, all of my old Q videos that have been missing now for the last year magically appeared after about a week and a half of work of putting them back up.
All my Q videos are now available on my website, PrayingMedic.com.
Okay, good.
Our ministry is PrayingMedic.org.
Okay.
That is where we base our ministry, my spiritual messages on hearing God's voice, seeing in the Spirit, healing, Miracles, power and authority, dreams.
I have an entire page full of videos.
If you just go to the videos tab on PrayingMedic.org.
Okay.
PrayingMedic.org forward slash videos.
Tons and tons of videos there.
Basic discipleship for people who are maybe new believers, don't know much about God, don't know about the supernatural if you're interested.
Tons of videos there.
They're all free.
We did I think, get our donation page fixed.
We have not been able to receive donations through our donation page due to some software conflicts.
Okay.
I think we finally have the software conflicts worked out, so anyone who wants to support us financially, they can go to our ministry, pragmatic.org.
Okay.
And there's a donation page there, and I think it's working now.
Well, you also accept paper checks, too.
Is there a way to mail?
Really, the only donations we've received over the last couple months has been through checks.
Okay.
On the donation page, there's a place where people can send checks to us if they want.
Okay, good, good.
We are a Tax-exempt ministry, and your donations are tax-deductible.
Awesome.
And so the content that's on your site, the videos, that type of thing, that's available for free, right?
People can support you financially by sending a check or trying to go through your donation page.
They can also buy your books, and they can buy them directly from PrayingMedic.com, correct?
Well, you can't buy them from PrayingMedic.com.
We're not doing distribution of our books.
Okay.
We have links on We have a book page that has all of our books on it, our Q books and our spiritual books.
You can buy our spiritual books through Amazon.
They're also available through barnesandnoble.com, and the Q books are available through barnesandnoble.com, and they're also available through IngramSpark.
Got it.
We have links on our book page to the IngramSpark option, which you can buy the e-book or the paperback through IngramSpark.
Good.
Our Q books were blacklisted by Amazon.
You know, it is what it is.
That was pretty early on, right?
Q doesn't like Bezos, so it's all good.
Yeah, I understand.
So you're also on Telegram.
You have a Telegram channel.
I am.
That's my primary hangout right now.
Okay.
I have a Gab account.
And I have a CloudHub account, but I am most active on Telegram.
It's praying underscore medic is the Telegram channel.
Just look for the one that has more than 100,000 subscribers.
There's fake channels on Telegram for everybody, but just look for the one that has.
And go to the pinned message on the top of my Telegram channel.
It's a video with me.
Proof of life, letting people know that.
Yeah, absolutely, guys.
Make sure that you go to the right channel.
There's a lot of fake channels on Telegram.
Somebody on Facebook just said they just ordered your dream book.
Oh, thanks.
And by the way, to my friends on Facebook, some people kind of misunderstood what happened on Facebook.
I had a pretty large prayer group on Facebook.
There's 30,000 people in this prayer group.
And some people are under the impression that I abandoned them.
I didn't abandon Facebook.
Facebook has shut down five pages of mine over the last few years.
I keep trying to come back.
When they take down my page, they also take down my private profile.
I have not been able to maintain a profile on Facebook or Twitter or YouTube.
I've tried to create more accounts.
They won't let me.
Every time I create an account on one of those platforms, they take it down.
So it's not that I abandoned Facebook or YouTube or Twitter.
They booted me off.
When I tried to get back on, they kept shoving me out the door.
So I'm not on those platforms and it's not my choice.
It was by their choice.
Are you going to go on Truth Social?
Oh, heck yeah.
I will be big and large and in charge on Truth Social.
I'm really looking forward to Trump's new social media platform.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
I hope they do live streaming.
I hope they have groups.
I hope they have all the functionality of the other platforms.
I'm looking forward to it.
Me too.
Yeah, I will be there.
Yep.
Yeah, I already signed up, you know, whatever for the notifications or whatever you could do.
I mean, I'm anxious to lock in my name, get my real estate over there.
I'm just keeping watch.
I bought the stock in his acquisition, DWAC.
Yep.
Right when it was first came out.
I'm pretty excited about that.
But I don't know, it's kind of cool to be part of that, especially after everything we've been through.
So who knows, by the time Truth Social launches, you know, it might be a whole new world.
It might be a whole new world.
Our real president may actually be back in place.
I have not given up on that hope.
And there are, I admit there are days when it's tempting to swallow the black pill and go, he's never going back.
But the truth is, you know, there's so much more beyond President Trump.
And that's what really, if people are taking the opportunity to listen and to learn and to grow and to allow their character to be developed during this time, that's the spoils of war that we're going to come away with, is, you know, knowing who we are and being more grounded and actually, you know, Doing things that will have an impact generationally on this country, not just one person in office.
I have one message I'd like to leave people with, if I could.
Please do.
Kind of goes along with what you just said.
Please do not think of Trump as the savior of America.
Please do not think of the military as the savior of America.
Trump and the military are observing us.
They are looking at us and they're waiting to see if we are willing to take our country back.
If we show them we are willing to engage, we're willing to be digital soldiers, we're willing to fulfill our responsibilities and partner with them, In taking back our country, they will help us take back our country.
But without us, it's not going to happen.
They're not going to do it without us.
So this is a partnership.
Trump is a leader, but he is not our savior.
He's certainly a leader who is trying to encourage us to stand up and take back our country.
That's so good.
Yeah.
And he taught us to be brave.
And he taught us to be bold.
And so many people are taking that example.
And Yeah, I mean, I'm so thankful for him.
I'm thankful that he said yes.
But I agree.
He's looking for just, you know, he is, he is an instrument of God.
And he is just like God is, I'm not equating the two at all.
But, you know, our human leaders are looking for participation from we the people.
Right?
And God does the same thing.
Yeah, God is not going to take action in the earth, unless we're involved in it.
Yeah.
He works through us.
So the God is in control phrase just got thrown out the window there.
Yes, it did.
Yeah.
I hate that phrase.
Yeah.
I don't like patriots are in control.
And I don't like God is in control.
Yeah, that that both of those kind of suggest that we have nothing to do with the process.
It definitely fosters a passive attitude.
Yeah.
And that's what actually got us in this place where we are.
Exactly.
So, well, Dave, you know, we're coming up on two hours here.
Can you believe it?
I gotta go check my roast.
I am so, yeah, I'm so delighted that you came on today.
And I so appreciate it.
I know that my listeners do as well.
Just to let everybody know, I am going to upload this to Rumble, Mary Grace Media on Rumble.
And I, you know, if you come back to Facebook, and it's not here, there's probably a good reason for that.
Because I think Suckabuck is Probably got his little minions out by now.
All the people at Socialist Media Inc. have gotten alerted that there may be a problem over on Mary Grace Media.
I'll put this up on my website then.
Oh, great.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, I'll send it.
I'll send it to you.
So yeah, so anyway, everybody just thank you so much again, for being here.
Thank you, Dave.
I am really looking forward to having you back.
I know that, you know, I've gotten several people in the chat here who said that they've gone and purchased your book while we were talking.
Everybody's interested in the Dream Interpretation book.
So that's just awesome.
And I just thank you and Denise both for the sacrifices and dedication and commitment that you've made.
Over the past several years.
It's just a delight and a pleasure to be in this fight with you.
And I'm looking forward to more shows.
Maybe we can get Denise on too.
At least in the background.
Yeah, I love her peanut gallery comments.
So we will see everybody.
To my listeners, I will be back on Monday at 1pm Eastern.
And in the meantime, please share this, please like, please leave comments, and please, if you're on Facebook, share this into groups.
Telegram, share it into groups that you're allowed to share in without spamming, etc., etc.
Please leave comments when you come back.
I would love to hear your feedback.
And as always, you can contact me at info at marygracemedia.com.
You can send me comments, you can send suggestions, questions for Dave, if you want him to come back.
I'd love to get your feedback.
And thanks again, Dave.
Blessings to you and Denise, both.
And can't wait to see how this adventure continues to unfold.
Take care, everybody.
Take care, Dave.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me on the show.
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