Project Camelot - JOHN HUTCHISON : FREE ENERGY, PORTAL TECH AND TIME TRAVEL

Dec. 13, 2025 - Project Camelot

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JOHN HUTCHISON : FREE ENERGY, PORTAL TECH AND TIME TRAVEL

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	Great.
	So, hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
	We've had a horrendous time trying to get this show to go live.
	Hopefully, this is going to work and people can hear.
	So, if you can, in the chat alongside this show, we're now on YouTube, just let me know if there's any problems with sound or whatever it is.
	So, welcome again, and it's great to be here.
	I've got John Hutchinson, and it's been many years.
	I have always wanted to interview you, John.
	So, I think way back in the day, maybe you participated in a George Green interview that I did, and maybe some others.
	But at any rate, it's great to have you here.
	And, Matthew, Matthew, I don't know how to say your last name.
	Estefo, yeah, Estefo.
	Okay, Estefo.
	So, it's great to have you helping and facilitating this, and you are helping by putting this on YouTube.
	I was blocked everywhere, so I don't know what strange thing is going on, but they don't want me to do this show, obviously.
	So, can you introduce yourself, John, and give some background as to who you are?
	You've been out there for a very long time working on what we call free energy.
	I don't know if you call it zero-point energy or whatever.
	And you also are using a magnetic motor, if I understand, and various things.
	So, can you give yourself an introduction?
	Sure.
	My name is John Hutchinson, a crazy Canadian guy, working on Tesla and vintage technology for ever since I was young.
	I'm still young, and made some discoveries that was promoted by other scientists.
	And it's fun to be here with you folks.
	And Carrie, TV shows, top radio shows, Arcto, and Discovery Channels Box TV, blah, blah, blah.
	Even CNN and NBC.
	But I am here working away still doing my job.
	I'm his wife.
	This is Nancy Hutchinson.
	I got married to her.
	And John is the only person I know on the planet that knows how to transmutate matter using high voltage and radio frequencies.
	And that's what he's doing.
	And that's what's happening right now with the Fukushima disaster.
	He set up a shield.
	He used to work with Reagan on the Star Wars program.
	There's a shield that he's put up.
	And we have mobile units across the coast, as well as in Japan, as well as in Australia.
	And they're all interconnected.
	So there's a lot more to John Hutchison than what he's going to tell you.
	All right.
	Thank you for that.
	So in terms of your technology, and Matthew, if you want to sort of interject here, what your role is you're playing with John and his work.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So my name is Matthew.
	I run the MathEasy Solutions channel on YouTube and elsewhere.
	So I actually got involved with John because like my goal is to replicate his work.
	So and the best way to learn is to go in and talk to him.
	And so, what I have done is, well, twofold is make sure all of his videos and so on are like public and live on YouTube and elsewhere and backed up.
	And fortunately, yeah, so John and Nancy gave me the hard drive that they had, like three terabytes.
	I think Nancy did a lot of that, digitizing a lot of the footage, like raw unedited footage, and like TV shows, interviews he was on.
	And what I've been doing is that playlist that you put a link on your Rumble.
	That's the one that pretty much I've been slowly adding everything, like all the videos there to it.
	Like I'm talking like six hours unedited footage of John Hudson, like and then as well as including short highlight clips and interviews and so on.
	So basically preserve his work as much as possible and also learn from him.
	So a couple I've went to visit his lab a couple times this year and last year.
	So thank you.
	And so just getting back to John for the moment, John, can you explain your work, how your thoughts about free energy have changed over the years?
	Do you have new information about things that Tesla investigated?
	I did a short documentary on Tesla recently.
	We went to the Tesla science site in Long Island.
	Maybe you're familiar with it where the Wardencliffe Tower used to stand.
	Have you been there?
	No, no.
	I have met a representative from Yugoslavia and Tesla Museum at Expo 86.
	So I got involved in free energy by people asking me to build something because they got in trouble by people that create broad gear and free energy devices.
	So it started in 1993, I believe.
	RioTrade business group in Vancouver, Canada, like Rich Clients, then Japan.
	Several times I went to Japan, give lectures and demonstrations of free energy.
	Then Thomas from Germany and his family invested in me to build these things.
	I never went out to promote it.
	They saw it on television and wanted me to build these things.
	So I did.
	It's basically by basically it's much like Dr. Franklin E. Leads device, free energy collector using crystalline structures and that kind of thing and for technology, vacuum tube technology.
	And I built them quite well, I feel.
	I have no complaints.
	And they worked well.
	They were tested by Kyoto Institute of Technology for any product activity.
	Like most of the guys use batteries and that kind of thing in these things.
	But mine was tested extensively and demonstrated very well in Japan.
	I had a lot of clients over the years.
	They paid very well.
	I didn't go out and promote anything.
	We pay like a quarter of a million dollars for these things.
	And they wanted to bring them into production.
	So we went to Canada research and development team.
	Also in Japan, Germany, it was presented in Esquire magazine, which I still have a copy of that.
	I need to get it translated someday into English.
	Presented on television.
	There's a TV.
	One of my partners made an excellent video on Nancy's YouTube channel, how this thing works, and we tested it.
	So.
	Okay, but as far as making progress with getting your inventions, you're saying you demonstrated them on these various television shows and other things, correct?
	So are you getting any, you know, in other words, are people hiring you or hiring your technology?
	Oh, I turned down people who want to hire me.
	I like working on my own.
	I like my own lifestyle.
	I was offered to work with George Hasselway in Toronto, Canada, with my friend Hans Adam Liechtenstein, a friend of mine for decades.
	He owns his own country kind of thing.
	He's an art collector and gun collector like myself.
	But I did not, I turned that down, said, no, I like my simple life.
	I was offered also to work with the Artificial Reef Society in Vancouver on taking apart chips.
	I worked for a Navy destroyer, taking them apart.
	But I turned him down too.
	I kind of like my own privacy.
	I never was hired.
	They tried to get me into the Pentagon by Kimby Ventura.
	And I respectfully declined.
	I'm not really into working for other people kind of thing.
	Okay, when you say you're not into these other things, are you, I mean, how do you expect to actually help the world use your technology?
	Well, good question.
	Although my clients tried to get it into manufacturing, but that didn't work out.
	So it's up to them, not me.
	I'm not a business person.
	My God, even Donald Trump wanted me on his TV show, The Apprentice, and I turned that down because it's not my world.
	It's really not my world.
	Why does it matter whether it's your world or not?
	I mean, in other words, you sort of are working in sort of isolation, right?
	Yeah, basically.
	Yeah.
	Okay, but don't you want free energy to be available to all the people around the world?
	I would think that's a good plan.
	Now, my cup has presented on major TV shows, and it's up to, I feel, up to the young generation, next generation, to make these things themselves and present it.
	They probably have a business sense, I sure don't.
	But I don't know.
	There are a lot of free energy activists and inventors out there.
	Do you communicate with any of them?
	Oh, I sure have.
	Yeah.
	A lot of the claims are just claims only, not working devices.
	There's a young gentleman who's Bob Greener, Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project, who's really trying to get into free energy.
	There is Charles Crocker, a young guy, who is really into this too.
	Now, the other olden days.
	Okay, there's a free energy inventor.
	His name is Patrick is his first name.
	Oh, no.
	Where is that coming from?
	Okay, sorry about that.
	I don't know how to get rid of these people.
	So are you familiar with Patrick?
	He's a free energy inventor.
	I wouldn't know.
	I know Patrick Slandigan and a few other Patricks.
	I don't know.
	Okay, you don't know which one it is.
	Okay, I'll look it up to see if I can find his last name.
	It just escapes me.
	I know Gordon Novell was very interested in free energy and anti-gravity.
	I've worked with him since 2006.
	By invitation, a colonel Alexander all the way up to when he passed away.
	He enlisted Paris Hiltons who work on this and were working on this ARV unit.
	And I consulted with a friend of mine who owns a company back in Illinois to help build this thing.
	And we ran into a problem.
	The cable itself was too heavy for the unit.
	Okay, he's called Patrick Riley.
	Are you familiar with him?
	No, I don't think so.
	Oh, that's too bad because he's making a lot of progress.
	I'm going to see if I can put this link in the chat and then you could share it with the world, perhaps.
	Matthew, see that link?
	That's a link to an interview I did with Patrick Riley, who is making quite a bit of progress.
	He calls his designs over Unity, but I'm sure they'd be of great interest to John.
	So you could share that with John after the show as well.
	Yep, yeah.
	So I have it opened on the website so the audience can see it.
	You just copy the link, put it in the chat.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'll put that also in the YouTube chat and I'll send it to John.
	Right.
	That's what we're talking about.
	YouTube chat.
	Yeah, yeah, but they can also see it as well.
	So that's Patrick Riley, Over Unity Designs.
	And you had an interview last year with him.
	It's pretty interesting.
	Yeah, it's actually a really fast.
	He's doing wonderful work and he's a real smart guy.
	So, John, in terms of you say you're working on your own, have you built like a car or do you have, I know you're trying to be able to, you know, have a house, run a house, right, on this energy, right?
	Well, I don't know about running a house.
	I mean, that's up to the investors.
	I'm not that interested in free energy anymore because I did my stint with it with different, I call them clients, still friends of mine.
	And they tried to bring it into manufacturing, but unfortunately, that never happened.
	It was brought to Canada Research and Development in Vancouver, and they didn't know what to do with it.
	I said, take it to the military.
	I did an article presentation because it's on the Small Business Innovative Research Program, DOD Department of Defense.
	Sent Tom Beard with me on that in 1983.
	And I sent a proposal to DARPA, Dr. Bud Durant.
	And I still have a reacher.
	And I, again, being ignorant of paperwork, he wanted me to redo the forms.
	Well, in other words, you've probably been stopped for a long time, but it's possible that the climate out there for your work, the openness for this work, the work of Tesla, actually, and so on.
	I mean, it gets into a lot of different areas, like portal tech, correct?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, so have you written your work into books?
	Oh, no, no, no.
	I don't write anything.
	I leave that up to people at an address that they do the writing.
	This has been published in many books.
	Mind Benders by George Hasway, one of my partners.
	There's Nick Cook's book, Bushman, Marty Martin.
	There are dozens of people who put me in, I guess, small print and books and stuff.
	Colonel Alexander wrote my latest book.
	So a lot of people do.
	I don't do that kind of stuff.
	But you don't do that.
	Okay, fine.
	So, Matthew, have you tried to do anything in terms of writing articles and that sort of thing for, you know, to get his book out?
	His, not book, but his workout.
	Matthew, you're muted, I think.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, so I'm back on.
	Yeah, so I usually do live streams mainly, but I also like every video that I upload there, I usually write up a lot of this stuff.
	But not actual books, but like if you'll see, if you see every single one has specific notes that I post articles on that has the like we're talking timestamps with including a whole lot of notes.
	And I'm also setting up an AI AI project on Grok where I sent all the books related to John into it, feed into it.
	So now I could ask questions on like what to do.
	So and I and I ordered some Tesla coil and some other stuff.
	I made my own Faraday cage.
	So I'm going to be gradually building up, but using AI and all of pretty much every single thing that's written about John and in a way where it's just very easy and compact.
	But I do weekly streams on Wednesday.
	A lot of them are on the Hudson effect, going over theory about it and so on.
	So when, John, let me ask John this.
	When you use what has been now famous, the Hutchinson effect, that's the effect of being able to move an object, right?
	Correct.
	And you've got, I don't know if it's zillions, but you have many videos on YouTube showing you moving objects.
	But is it just stopped there?
	Or did you learn how to, you know, apply it to, I don't know, to, for example, or build a craft?
	It's like for a UFO, right?
	It's basically energy, the same kind of thing that UFOs run on.
	Well, yeah, that's a long time ago.
	It was causing things to move around, metals to transform into other metals.
	To me, it was a headache, really, until my partners that started to come around by accident, like Noah, Ernest Winfield, and then later on, Dura Castley and Pesero promoted it to the U.S. Military Industrial Complex.
	And they filmed it.
	And there was, yeah, U.S. Army intelligence.
	So do you think that they borrowed from your work?
	In other words?
	Well, the military industrial complex?
	Yeah, of course.
	I think so.
	I mean, so many of them I met and I didn't hide anything.
	I always told them what exactly was going on.
	And I didn't care less, you know.
	But Tom Bearden put me on the SBIR program and then I presented it to the U.S. government's folks and Canadian government folks actually videotaped it.
	Los Alamos videotaped it and U.S. Army.
	Okay, so yeah, right.
	But do you are you aware that obviously free energy is being stopped?
	Do you kind of agree with that?
	No, I don't think purposely stopped.
	I mean, could be simply no interest in it, basically.
	There was a friend of mine.
	Based on my work, I can tell you a lot of free energy inventors and activists also have died in mysterious situations.
	Are you aware of that?
	I've heard of it, but I really don't know.
	I don't hang around with that kind of people.
	I know some of them that are really doing good work.
	And like Dr. Franklin, he made this patent in 1992, December 31, on the zero-point energy collection.
	And I found out later that IBM was buying up all the patent applications for it.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I don't like getting in too much into conspiracy stuff and kind of let people do their own thing.
	And It's not my job to go around telling people what to do.
	I see.
	Okay, so did you ever know Brian or O'Leary?
	He was a NASA astronaut.
	Brian and I were very close friends.
	We traveled to Japan together.
	We gave butchers.
	We demonstrated free energy.
	I stayed at his home.
	I'm written up in his book.
	Right.
	Brian quite a bit.
	He supported me quite a bit.
	Sadly, I really miss him.
	We had a lot of fun together.
	Okay, that's great to hear.
	You know, he died and they killed him.
	Do you know that?
	I don't know if they killed him.
	I know he died.
	He said that he was given a fast-acting cancer that in less than a year from the diagnosis to his death.
	I know.
	It's very sad.
	And I wonder how his wife Meredith is doing.
	We were good friends as well.
	Yeah, I'm not in touch with her, but they, you know, live in, or they used to live in Villacabamba, of course.
	Yeah, that was, I met them in Oregon, actually.
	In Oregon?
	In Oregon?
	Or the state of Oregon, did you say?
	Yeah, state of Oregon.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I miss him.
	I really miss Brian.
	They had a lot of fun.
	He loved his Muppet Puppet.
	Laughless pig, you know, Brian.
	They a lot of fun.
	Okay.
	So if you were going to talk, you know, we have an audience for this video.
	A lot of people were very excited to hear from you because I guess you haven't done that many interviews over the recent times, right?
	Last being major, major big ones.
	Well, with Matthew, I've done a lot with Skim and other folks.
	I've done my TV show with True TV with Governor Jesse Ventura.
	That was the last one I did.
	That's a while ago, though, right?
	Yeah.
	Last ones for Fox and Discovery were in a 2000 time frame.
	I was like, Matthew, do you know, since Matthew, did you know the latest, like, what when was he interviewed recently anywhere else besides this show?
	Um, yeah, there was one.
	Uh, remember the the per the woman that was part of the uh that documentary that you were in, John, the one with the the Ark of the Covenant?
	I think you guys had a live stream interview like a year ago, I think a year or so ago.
	Uh, Mary Ann Heineman, yeah, yeah, Mary, she has a big substack as well, so she's pretty uh big.
	She was part of the Ark of the Covenant documentary.
	Oh, I see, yeah, okay.
	So, are you familiar with um okay, I have someone at my door, I'll be uh all right, that's fine.
	Uh, so you know, George Green, you remember him, right?
	He died as well doesn't really um stand out too much, George Greene.
	Um, I know that a lot of my friends have passed on by Dr. Raucher, uh, Dr. Brian O'Leary, many, like I think maybe a huge amount of people.
	Um, uh, Dr. Raucher stayed with me for a month in Oregon, and she watched and died, and then Gordon O'Bell passed away, and then so many of them.
	It's like are you familiar with a scientist called Richard Allen Miller?
	Richard Alan Miller, Richard Allen Miller.
	Sounds familiar.
	Well, I've interviewed him many times.
	He's quite brilliant, and he's a physicist.
	Okay, he lives in Oregon.
	Okay, where are you located?
	Which are you in Canada right now, John?
	No, I'm in California, actually.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	License, it's been sunny here for quite a while.
	It's still sunny.
	It's been what?
	It's still sunny here, believe it or not.
	Sunny, sunny.
	Oh, yeah, you said sunny.
	It's warm, too.
	I know.
	Are you in Los Angeles?
	I've been there many times.
	I'm in Calabasas.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	Hi.
	Where's Calabasas in?
	Which state is that?
	Well, it's in California.
	It's inland from Malibu, just less than 12 miles.
	Malibu?
	Malibu.
	I love that area.
	I love running it.
	Yeah.
	It's fun.
	Because, yeah, John's in Willett's Willet.
	It's like north of Sacramento.
	Yeah, so when I visited, I would have to go to Santa Rosa airport and then drive rent a car and drive for an hour to go see him.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay, well, now, in terms of building, did you know Bob Lazar?
	I've heard of him.
	I never really bought his stuff.
	You know, I would listen more to my friends at Baukey, like Blight Bushman and Rex Webb, who know the real stuff.
	But Bob Lazar, I don't know.
	I heard of him, but I don't really, how can you say?
	I could be skeptical of him.
	All right.
	Well, are you aware that he built a car that would run on water?
	John, you're frozen.
	But I've actually heard of that.
	It was very interesting.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's his documented information.
	It looks like John has lost the connection.
	Maybe he's frozen.
	So yeah, Bob Lazar built a car that would run on water.
	And he is, his stuff is documented.
	So, and John Lear, did you know who John Lear was?
	Yeah, I think my pilot interviewed him on our TV show.
	Okay.
	So John Lear, of course, was very, it was, has passed on also, but but Bob Lazar was very good friends with him.
	Do you is there any new invention that you have that you might like to talk about?
	No, my not really.
	I've been through a lot of them studying them in paper format.
	I'm working on Dr. Mallet's idea of time movement.
	He's using laser, I'm using RF.
	And I think that if I can affect an atomic clock, I think it would be important.
	What would that do if you affected the atomic clock?
	How would that help?
	Anything?
	Oh, what would that mean?
	I'm very interested in cosmology, Einstein stuff, and other physicist stuff.
	George Gamau, I think that because it's been proven that time dilation happens with astronauts, and Dr. Mallet has some results on his time machine.
	So I'm using high-frequency RF and super high-voltage capacitors, setting up a discharge ring and a magnetic field.
	I think if you can speed up a magnetic field that close to the speed of light, it's in an electrostatic field spinning as well, you can cause a time distortion.
	Right.
	I've been working on that for quite a while.
	Well, there's a theory that the secret space program is using, you know, time shifting and changing timelines and that sort of thing.
	That could very well be.
	Is that NASA?
	Well, NASA is part of the secret space program.
	You know, Space Force, Trump Space Force is part of the secret space program.
	Did you ever hear my interview or the Gaia TV interviews with William Tompkins?
	He was a Navy guy.
	He died recently, but he talked about the Nazis, how the Nazis infiltrated NASA and took it over.
	The Pleiadians and the Nazis were always warring and still are over control of NASA and the space program.
	Yeah, I do know many people at NASA through letters and emails over the years.
	And there was a challenge to create the work drive with Mark Nelis.
	I don't know if you ever heard of Mark Nillis, but he was really involved in the warp drive.
	I also met NASA personnel down in California at a conference once.
	Okay, well, I worked at JPL for a while.
	I was a contractor over there in communications.
	Obviously, I'm not a scientist, but I did work with scientists over there.
	So I do have some background in this sort of thing.
	I'm very interested in space anyway, and outer space and portals and portal tech, time travel, all of that.
	Did you ever know Sean David Morton?
	Name sounds familiar.
	Yeah, I think you must have met him.
	He was a journalist like me, an investigator and a journalist and an author.
	Well, he died recently, unfortunately, but he wrote a series of books called Sands of Time all about the beginnings of NASA and the secret space program and how they learned how to use time travel.
	So they're using that right now in the secret space program.
	Are you aware of that?
	I've heard rumors from that, from Los Alvos and my DTIC program thing, as well as other scientists I know that tell me certain things by emails usually.
	So I am kind of like, yeah, okay, let's do it.
	Right.
	So what do you think about CERN and these particle accelerators that open wormholes?
	Oh, I love that stuff.
	I even got my own particle accelerator, a small one, because I inspired by a Canadian Department of Defense physicist Harold Wilson talking to the head guy, Dr. Kuhn.
	They really blaved at my little particle accelerator system and what happens with the atoms and all that stuff.
	I'm really into DESY DESI because I met them in when I was living in Germany for two years and they wrote a small article on me, a rough draft that shows all the different diagrams of the atomic particles interacting with what I'm doing kind of tough.
	But is it, I mean, isn't it very difficult to build your own particle accelerator?
	Isn't that a very even maybe even dangerous thing to do?
	What do you think?
	Well, mine was accidentally discovered by a scientist from DND Canada.
	And I've had it always with me and I improved it by using magnetic fields and waveguide cavities and that kind of thing.
	Powerful magnets.
	It's small, but I mean, really small compared to a particle accelerator.
	Okay.
	One of my many friends is a nuclear physicist, Dr. Robert Kuntz, who wrote me a letter of recommendation.
	Also, I stayed and lived in Germany with a nuclear physicist.
	Well, there's a lot of famous particle accelerators.
	In fact, there's even one, it's well, it's called a linear accelerator here in California.
	You know, about the one in Northern California, I guess, right?
	Oh, yeah, most of them I know.
	I mean, even Canada has one of them.
	So, when they're doing that, they are opening wormholes.
	Would you agree?
	I fully agree.
	That's very true.
	Okay, so that's time travel.
	I mean, if you have a wormhole, you can actually go places through it, right?
	Yeah, okay.
	So, um, one time I was talking to somebody, a scientist, about this, and they actually, the person was not willing to discuss things, he was trying to be really secret, but he did say that he thought it took a different kind of technology to move a human through something as opposed to physical matter besides humans.
	Did you know that?
	Yeah, I think I've heard of that before, and I hear about it.
	I like seeing results in the real world.
	Have you tried to move anything through your little particle accelerator?
	Have you done anything like that?
	Well, Dr. Harold Wilson sure thinks so, and I, you know, I listen to him.
	I'm not a physicist and I still don't know mathematics, but I listen to what other people say, and I agree with him.
	I wrote him letters and wrote back.
	Dr. Kuntz was always kind of interested in what I'm doing.
	Okay, so, but you're kind of avoiding my questions, so you don't want to say, right?
	Okay, I don't mind.
	I mean, I don't want to get you in trouble.
	I wouldn't get in trouble.
	Nobody cares about this.
	I've got to write on television, right?
	But I haven't really gone into high focus yet.
	I'm still working on rebuild of the lab and that.
	So, I wouldn't keep it a secret.
	I'm not interested in secrets.
	My God, I used to get you used to live in Sedona, didn't you?
	You used to live in Sedona.
	Yeah, I was married to Helena, and that's where Gordon and I met up again.
	Yeah, Sedona, Arizona.
	Dr. Rocher lives there.
	Are you talking about Gordon Novell or a different Gordon?
	Gordon Novell.
	Gordon Novell?
	Okay, he was a good friend of mine.
	I interviewed him many times.
	Yeah, I got an interview with him.
	My wife Nancy did that.
	Gordon stayed with us and with my other wife, Helena.
	There's a lot of portals, and you know, there's a lot of portal openings in Sedona, right?
	Oh, yeah, especially in Sedona.
	It's a magical place to stay.
	That's where I got married to Helena.
	Okay.
	So, but did you ever try to go through a portal like that kind of thing?
	I've been through something because time dilation happens and you really don't notice it.
	Okay.
	Traveling with Nancy and also Helena.
	Uh-huh.
	Something that changed time from several hours to get to a location to just 45 minutes.
	Okay.
	I've had things manage before my eyes, and I think it's a friend.
	That's kind of cool.
	Oh, heck yeah.
	I thought, am I going sick?
	I'm going to get mentally ill or something, but right before my eyes, and nothing turned on, it just seems these things seem to come around and happen.
	Well, don't you think that the Native Americans knew all about portals?
	I believe that.
	Yeah.
	I always say I would consult with a Native American about certain things.
	I talked about a native and me, my grandmother, was grandma morning stars.
	Oh, yeah.
	Rest of me is Scottish, by the way.
	It's got a bit Scottish now.
	Yes.
	Okay, so it, what did you, do you feel like you're on the verge of a new, you know, we're on the verge of a new century, a whole new way of looking at matter and all of that?
	Don't you think we're getting very close to that?
	Oh, I would have to say so.
	That's what I believe in, too.
	Because someday, like I look back on all the videos to turn to the center stuff in San Francisco and start, I'm thinking, holy, they're ignorant back then.
	Now we're going to have maybe 100 years from now, 50 years, 25 years, people looking back at us now, laughing their heads off saying, wow, they were trying, weren't they?
	Exactly.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	I fly a lot.
	I travel quite a bit.
	And I'm aware that airplanes are using free energy, a form of free energy to actually use as fuel, as fuel right now.
	Are you aware of that?
	No.
	Like you, I did a lot of traveling, like to different countries.
	And Vancouver, LA, usually two hours back and forth.
	So I enjoy flying.
	Have you noticed?
	If you pay attention, you might just do this now in the future, but pay attention, see that they arrive sooner than they're supposed to.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah.
	That's happening a lot.
	And they have to kind of cover it up and stuff like that.
	But I noticed it.
	Sure.
	I noticed one time I was Vancouver to LA only.
	It took under an hour.
	So this is weird.
	Okay.
	I didn't think much of it.
	Good.
	Okay.
	Right.
	So do you have any ET contact that help you with your inventions or anything?
	No.
	Well, it's Matthew.
	I found Matthew.
	No.
	Obviously, E.T. Contact is a legal alien.
	You're not aware of it then if you do have some unseen help, in other words.
	I think the unseen help doesn't use the internet.
	Well, that's for sure.
	Well, they could if they wanted to, but you know.
	But I think to interject, I think John's earlier wife, Helena, I think she was big on like talking to spirits and all that.
	Oh, I see.
	Yeah, something like that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she was.
	Is she still around or did she pass on or what?
	She passed on.
	Nancy's good at spirit interactions as well as my other lady for a long time, filmmaker, Yin Gaza in Germany.
	And we were very close for a very long time.
	And we're still in contact.
	And she knows her stuff.
	She did a lot of filmmaking and movies.
	And do you know, you know, about the new Spielberg movie, right?
	That he, you know, did you know that Spielberg was given information about ETs back in the days of close encounters?
	Did you ever hear that?
	I believe it.
	Yen told me that too.
	And we drove past his house down in LA.
	He was using a lawnmower to cut his grass.
	That's Yin.
	She knows all these people.
	Mrs. Broadberry, she knew her outskirts.
	Mrs. Broadberry's home in Bel Air and I have Mrs. Roddenberry Gabrielle Star Trek stuff.
	Roddenberry, are you saying Roddenberry?
	Yeah.
	Star Trek guy, yeah.
	Right.
	What about Arthur C. Clarke?
	Did you ever meet him?
	Which one?
	Arthur C. Clarke?
	No, I don't know.
	Space Odyssey.
	He was into ball lightning research, actually.
	Arthur C. Clark.
	There's an article he made actually about ball lightning.
	He was whenever lightning strikes, he would inspect for ball lightning.
	Yeah.
	Well, he was very read in on the secrets, actually.
	And I was going to interview him right before he died.
	Then he died, unfortunately.
	What year did he die?
	This is actually several years ago now because he had to put COVID in there.
	So, you know, it's probably seven years ago or something like that.
	But, you know, he was very much older, but I was really, you know, dying to interview him.
	He knew a lot of secrets.
	Definitely, definitely.
	The whole body, very good.
	The co-producer and all that.
	I stayed with one of them for a couple of weeks in Glendale, Kirk R. Thatcher, who played the funk rocker, co-producer, director, were good friends.
	But then we'd go when Yin got back from Hollywood, Kirk Thatcher from Jim Henson production, we'd go down and have dinner with the Star Trek people.
	Okay.
	But the actually, I'm a little more into Battlestar Galactica myself.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah.
	I like that show.
	Yeah.
	It's my favorite.
	So Bridget, Lloyd Bridget.
	Sorry?
	Was that with Lloyd Bridges as a captain?
	No, you're thinking Stargate.
	Stargate.
	Oh, I was a guest in that one.
	Yeah, that's in Vancouver, Bernardi, British Columbia.
	Came visiting me and they took me to the studios.
	I got a bunch of photographs and videos of us hanging out.
	But that's a good show.
	That's a good show.
	Stargate at G1.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Well, they let, you know, they let out some secrets, right, of travel and all that.
	Of course, the film people know a lot of stuff.
	Yeah, they definitely do.
	Are you aware of other dimensions, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, that's part of Portal Tech and all of that, right?
	Yeah.
	Because I read a lot of books.
	Right.
	That kind of thing was in the 70s.
	I wrote, I read many books on this stuff.
	One of my favorite cosmologists is George Gamau.
	But there's all these books.
	I didn't watch TV.
	I listened to the radio and read all the different books that were available, Jimmy.
	My dad was head of college encyclopedia's western section of North America.
	I had a big library to play with.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Oh, fun.
	So have you ever yourself feel like you, you know, like time traveled or actually, you know, left the planet or any of that stuff?
	Oh, yeah.
	Especially when I sit down in the sun and stare at it.
	I'm kidding.
	I feel.
	I'm not had to get up.
	Well, you're supposed to be able to, you know, get energy from the sun and use that as food, actually.
	That's true.
	The two frequencies, side frequency, 25 gigahertz and 75 gigahertz that extend to telomeres in a human body.
	Right.
	But well, there's also, you know, who David Serrata is?
	Oh, David, I know David for a long time.
	Yeah, I would think.
	I did a show with him.
	David Serita, yeah.
	And what about Richard Hoagland?
	Did you ever meet him?
	Richard might have talked to him on the phone.
	I don't think I met him.
	He lived in New Mexico, you know, most of the time.
	So David, I met a number of times.
	Yeah, David used to live in Sedona.
	Maybe you guys knew each other there.
	Mostly Vancouver.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	He's a Canadian, actually.
	So are you paying attention to 3I Atlas at all right now?
	3R?
	3i Atlas, you know, the craft that was over by, went behind the sun, then it went close to Mars.
	Now it's kind of coming on the 19th of December, supposed to be near us.
	It's called 3I Atlas.
	Maybe it's a craft.
	You know, people are calling it, you know, scientists are covering, calling it a comet and all that.
	Oh, okay.
	I think I've heard of it, but you haven't been tracking it?
	No, I do have radio astronomy stuff, but I haven't been using it that much for tracking things.
	Okay.
	Although I can sit down and turn up the frequencies and see what's out there.
	Well, do you could create a portal even in your lab, right?
	I believe so.
	Okay.
	So did you have any big breakthroughs or have you just been steadily on the same track all these years?
	What do you think?
	I would have to say I had a number of breakthroughs and also awarenesses of certain things that happen that are really beyond my early years of doing things.
	Things appearing, disappearing, footsteps of my dog that wasn't there.
	These are all kind of interesting situations, shadows along the walls in Oregon.
	A lot of things I can't explain.
	I said, oh, well.
	And I was with three people.
	We broke into Woodwood School in Canada years ago.
	We saw my entities in mid-air.
	I was my girlfriend at the time, Corinne, another friend, Myama Lee, Lee Denise, who appears on one of my TV shows, I think.
	But I've seen these things and I don't get that excited anymore.
	I just say, oh, well.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, like, okay, something cool.
	Great.
	So, I mean, is there anything that you haven't been able to figure out, you know, in terms of portal tech, time travel, you know, free energy?
	You know, I mean, how Tesla, all the things that Tesla did, like Warden Cliff, right?
	Is that all make total sense to you?
	Yeah, it makes sense to me.
	There's a huge amount of information on what I call the old targets, the engineers that built receivers and vacuum tubes and military and Navy stuff.
	I've seen things that totally, wow.
	And I just recently studied up on one of my Navy ships That one was being built at Berard Yarrow Shipyard.
	I used AI.
	There was a lot of weird stuff, much like the Philadelphia experiment, was that ship.
	Yeah, I was just going to say that.
	Yeah.
	So another friend of mine, Ron Noavoni of DAE Systems, and I were going to do a TV series.
	And we thought we'll start this TV series building the Philadelphia experiment model.
	I started out with a foot on model ship, which actually Massey has videos on that.
	And Ron would send metal samples to be affected from DIA.
	And we got together a radio show down in LA, and we're talking about what we're going to be doing.
	I got a copy of that show.
	So, did you know Preston Nichols?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And the FRR24 series of radio receivers.
	Yeah, of course.
	He came and spoke at my conference.
	My conference was called Time Travel and Other Worlds.
	It was in 2013.
	Yeah.
	But he, you know, he's a really fascinating guy.
	I interviewed him.
	That is, he's our radio engineer and knows his stuff.
	I have some of his kind of radio receivers myself.
	I was just at Montauk.
	A group of us went to Montauk recently.
	Montauk, I automatically think of the New Westminster Police Department and the odd pink crystals, which made it to Montauk and I called it the police department.
	This is a long story, by the way, but there was the odd pink crystal sent to me by William Warren of Texas.
	It's a huge amount of intrigue by people in New Westminster Bridge, Columbia.
	It got so bad that people, well, okay, you know, and then it wound up in the police department.
	Constable Ted Usher and he said, Do you know Montauk basically?
	Yeah, I heard about it.
	Can I see you tomorrow?
	I'd like to interview you about something that happened.
	So he did.
	I called a friend of mine, Gene Manning, as a witness.
	He wanted to go on an ex-mile trip to the police department.
	So we did.
	So Ted Usher has shown me all these papers and why would this package wind up at Montauk?
	I always go like, I don't know.
	A lot of stuff I don't know.
	Okay, are you familiar with the Nazi Bell?
	Yeah, of course.
	My friend Nick Cook of Jane's Events Weekly did a story on it.
	I went there once.
	Yeah, we interviewed Igor Witkowski.
	You know him?
	He's like an expert on that whole area.
	Yeah.
	But the Nazi Bell is, you know, actually it's free energy counter-rotating, you know, spheres, whatever you call them, right?
	So that's all correct.
	And they were doing that in Germany, you know.
	I believe it.
	And it was explained to me by somebody who saw one on a TV show wanting to see me and he talked about counter-rotating mercury field structures, mercury itself, how it affected things.
	So for some reason, all that tech has gone secret, I guess.
	Right.
	There was a Bob Greener just recently had somebody on talking about Mach 9 and the energy created from that whole thing.
	I said, yeah, that's right.
	That's what I think it is, you know, too.
	Right.
	Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project.
	I had a very interesting YouTube channel.
	He liked to explore TVOs and controllers where Ken was like a close friend in science.
	He taught me a lot of stuff.
	We hang out quite a bit together.
	Oh, what was that?
	What was that guy's name?
	The name?
	Yeah, the name of the guy you're talking about.
	Ken Shoulders.
	Kenneth?
	Kenneth Shoulders.
	Shoulders.
	Okay.
	Just, because I know that people listening to this, they're going to try to follow all your references and books you mention and everything because they think maybe you have some clues.
	So you know about Trevor James Constable, right?
	I've heard of him.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you never didn't.
	Did you read about him ever?
	I think I did.
	I just don't remember.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, it's a long time ago, but he actually tried to posit this idea that there are these beings, kind of amoeba-like beings.
	Do you ever remember that?
	I vaguely recall.
	That's in our atmosphere that we can't see with the naked eye necessarily, but they're there.
	No one ever really pursued that as far as I know, but it always interested me.
	It sounded really bizarre.
	A little like Stranger Things, you know, that TV show.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there are things that people are just completely unaware of, right?
	Friend of mine, James Younger, have a good TV series for Discovery Science, Future Fantastic, starring host Julian Anderson of the X-Files.
	He did a number of episodes.
	Really a good show to check out on YouTube.
	Yeah, okay.
	It's a good one.
	All right.
	Well, what about, you know, the X-Files in terms of the stuff that they're tapping into?
	All of this is known by the secret, you know, government, secret space program, whatever you want to say.
	And recently I was hearing that the lines, this is what this guy is saying that was on Facebook recently.
	He was saying, you know how you can stick a rod in the ground and get electricity, right?
	You don't need to pay for electricity, right?
	And then he was saying the telephone wires are up at this level where they can collect the electricity that's natural to the planet.
	That's that they don't actually carry electricity.
	They tap into it.
	What do you think about that?
	It's very true.
	You can tap into the energy or use it as an antenna.
	I use in my stuff, ELF transmitters.
	Okay.
	Navy VLS shops.
	And we use, or I use drone rods driven into the ground to pick up this energy.
	And you can pick it up on receivers, too.
	So I use receivers a lot, like a second brain or something to monitor what's going on out there.
	And oddly enough, interestingly enough, this is well documented.
	ELF transmission, Navy style, keeps cosmic rays and gamma rays away from the Earth.
	A recent discovery of well known.
	So all this stuff is, I love tuning into it and learning from all this stuff.
	Okay.
	Learn something new.
	Well, there is, you know how Tesla thought that there was energy in the ether, in essence, plasma, you know, like Wilhelm Reich talked about, right?
	Orgone?
	So, Reich, if you didn't, you should go to the place in Long Island.
	I'll send you the video that we made there, and you'll see where Wardenclyffe used to stand.
	You can see everything.
	It's still there, you know what I mean?
	But the tower is gone.
	He was tapping into all that.
	He was tapping into the normal, the energy that's just part of our world, right?
	With Wardencliffe.
	I always was fascinated by that.
	Oh, I love that stuff.
	I study it.
	There were some scientists that did early collection of that, but T. Henry Moray and his covered and vacuum tips and transistors.
	True transistors, but he got a lot of energy from that.
	That's where I got ideas to make my own.
	Which was actually mildly successful.
	Not a great amount of power, but I had fun building this thing and testing it.
	Yeah, I bet.
	Okay, well, I know we've been going for a while and it took us a long time to get started.
	So I don't want to, you know, take too much more of your time.
	But I know that there might be a chat room.
	I can't actually see it, but maybe Matthew can.
	Matthew, do you want to take questions from the audience?
	Do you think that before we close this down, is there any questions that you might have?
	No, I can get them there.
	And I can also share my screen if you want to see the questions directly.
	I'll share it just so it'd be easier.
	I'm going to click on.
	Is that okay with you?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	This is what I do.
	One second.
	Okay.
	So you can see the setup here.
	I'm going to copy the question.
	This is the chat window.
	So, guys, if you have any questions, you can ask John and Carrie right now.
	So this is a chat.
	You can see it on the screen.
	Okay, cool.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	So if you guys have any questions, any questions for John and Carrie are there.
	And John, just before we're also going, are you familiar with the Romanian Sphinx?
	Oh, Romanian?
	Uh-huh.
	No, I don't think.
	Oh, you should.
	There's some books you should read all about that.
	It's really fascinating.
	They have a mountain.
	They have their own, they call it a Sphinx, but it's kind of more of a rough lion, you know, carving on.
	And underneath that is a tunnel and a whole installation that they discovered.
	And the United States military is working with the Romanian secret space program, the Romanians.
	And they wrote, there's a journalist that wrote a bunch of books called Caesar.
	Well, Cesar is the guy in charge, but his name was Radus in Cinemar.
	Anyway, I can send you some links.
	I think you'll find them very interesting about inner earth, you know, the tunnels that go into inner earth, and you have to go through a frequency fence in order to get into inner earth.
	Did you know that?
	No, I'm learning a lot from you, Carrie.
	No, really.
	Every day I learn something new and I think it's cool.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know anything really.
	I keep learning stuff every day.
	It's fun.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	So here's some questions if you guys from the audience.
	So the first one, please, what do you think about the Tesla purple plates?
	I've actually never heard about that.
	Do you guys know about the Tesla purple plates, John?
	Yeah, I heard of it.
	I think I've seen one years ago.
	The healing plate or something like that.
	I've seen a lot of that stuff.
	I don't know what to think of it.
	I didn't really was impressed with it that much.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I don't think I've heard of that actually.
	This guy says, what is plasma?
	Well, I think basically what is it in your?
	Plasma is, you know, the military are doing a lot with plasma.
	And you know about the plasma beings, they're actually, it actually has consciousness.
	They showed up during the, you know, when the drones were going around New Jersey and all of that, there were plasma beings.
	They were saying they were seeing plasma balls of, it's balls of energy, but it's, it's like concentrated energy.
	It's, they're, they're made of, they're different things.
	They can be consciousness, you know, like orbs.
	That's, that can be a small plasma, you know, accumulation of plasma.
	And they ride around on them like, you know, ships.
	But plasma is just the same thing as orgone, actually.
	But it's probably, you know, how there's, I don't know, Richard Allen Miller says there's something like, I don't know, 19 versions of water, not just three, not just ice, water, and, you know, steam, but actually many more.
	Did you ever hear that?
	I know that I made plasma and filmed it too.
	And I hope Matthew might have that.
	If not, it might be on my DVDs.
	Very active, alive plasma, very bright, very mischievous in many ways.
	And I would love to see.
	I said to Matthew a while ago, I was going to go through the ladder in there and crawl along up there and see where all my CDs were.
	I stuck them on.
	I know it exists because I filmed it.
	That was 2002.
	My partner at the time was Grant Romund.
	So plasma is this.
	It's the soup we live in, in essence.
	So it's everywhere.
	It's this.
	It's this stuff that we exist in.
	We think we see kind of weird with our eyes, but you can sense it when you, I do a lot of meditation and I studied a lot.
	I activated my kundalini.
	If you know what kundalini orgone is, you know, yogis do it.
	So when you do that, you realize that we're actually, you know, we live in a sea of plasma, basically.
	And that's the same thing as ether.
	Ether was an older word for it.
	So plasma tech right now is really big in the military.
	They're investigating all the things they can do with it, but there's also what you call plasma beings.
	There's actually these little, I don't know, beings that I'm told about by some of my secret witnesses.
	I believe it.
	Some more questions here.
	Actually, this is from a fractal woman.
	First, she wanted to make a statement about, she says she would like to talk to you sometime, Carrie.
	So she has a good YouTube channel.
	And she says, love to see more women interested in this stuff.
	And also, she wanted to say hi to John.
	Yes, he's a big fan.
	And I had her on a show actually on Wednesday.
	And what she's basically asking you guys, what do you guys think about fractals?
	And how do fractals fit in your worldview or John's or Carrie's?
	Basically, like, do you guys know what fractals were basically the self-repeating patterns in?
	Of course.
	John, I'm sure you know about fractals.
	I mean, what would you say about it, John?
	I like to say and point out to folks to study Bob Greener's work on this.
	He's into fractal physics quite a bit.
	He's got quite a channel.
	He does a lot of work in plasma and fractals and that kind of thing.
	I think he's got a video called The Fractal Moment.
	The idea, the basic idea is that every like every piece of you could contains the whole.
	So fractals are like a tiny piece that contains everything about you in the piece of you.
	So, and then it gets into the whole Fibonacci sequences and all of that.
	You know, so the universe is made up of fractals.
	I think that's a hint that we might actually be in a hologram and we might actually, everything might be AI already.
	Have you ever thought about that, John?
	Actually, Nancy's been working on that for a year.
	Yeah, I'm not kidding.
	She got hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of Eric's work in that area.
	Well, there's a scientist, his name is John Scott.
	And he is, I've interviewed him several times.
	And he said plants are actually, their DNA is AI.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	That's something I want to talk to Nancy.
	And you know that, have you ever heard that plants are connected all across the world?
	They're through their root system.
	They're all connected.
	So it's like a network, right?
	I think it's the biggest surveillance network of Earth that exists.
	I really believe in that.
	I studied Dr. Rupert Sheldrake and his research.
	He appears in my girlfriend's movie.
	Okay.
	Morphic resonance.
	Yep, I believe it.
	I understand it.
	Plants are actually quite healing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it can also get rid of electronic smog, you know.
	Yep.
	So what do you think?
	I was told recently by a secret military witness that we are entering the quantum and that AI is just the beginning of really getting to know what quantum is all about.
	And once we go into quantum, it's a whole different ballgame.
	What do you think?
	Well, that's what Nancy's working on.
	And quantum computer stuff that AI is doing.
	She works hours daily on this whole thing.
	And she knows more about quantum AI.
	I use AI just simply to chat GTP to ask questions.
	I ask a question like, who's this person and what's that?
	Right.
	And I find them very helpful.
	And they do a lot of work.
	And I thank them.
	That's all I use.
	Nancy goes into heavy details on it.
	Okay.
	Well, I've actually tested them and several of them and they lie.
	When they don't know something and when they have been programmed by the people who built them, kind of like they're actually lying to people a lot because they don't want the secrets out there.
	Oh, yeah.
	That kind of reminds me of the military industry complex.
	Right.
	I used to entertain contractors that have come into Vancouver and they always show me something and they would say it's secret.
	I said, okay, I understand all that stuff.
	Okay, secret.
	So you want to come and see a demonstration?
	I demonstrated my stuff and they clapped their hands, gave me 100 bucks one time.
	A lot of fun, but I understand the, you know, that you respect their secret stuff.
	Okay, no problem.
	I don't care.
	But you know what?
	This is the interesting thing about secrecy is that it doesn't extend beyond Earth.
	The minute you have a secret thing, you copyrighted all that stupid stuff.
	They don't respect, you know, ETs and other consciousnesses, they don't respect anything that is so-called copyrighted.
	It's all free, you know, to the world, to the worlds, multiverses, whatever you want to say.
	I believe in it.
	Because I've seen a lot of stuff.
	I was given samples like was on a small business innovative program of DOD, and they just have a page of all the secret stuff Los Alamos is doing with antimatter has got full AWRL support.
	It said, so I couldn't get a full copy of it, just presentations on these papers.
	So, yeah, okay, whatever.
	Well, you know, Jack Sarfati, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The physicist, you knew Jack.
	Did you know him going back and years ago and stuff?
	Oh, you played years.
	My girlfriend's good friends with him.
	Okay.
	Well, I tried to interview him publicly, but so far he won't let me.
	But I have met him in person in San Francisco and stuff.
	That's Jack.
	He likes to play Secret Squirrel.
	Yeah, he does.
	Hal Pudoff thinks of him.
	That's right.
	You know Hal?
	Yeah, I know him quite well.
	He stayed with me a couple of days, 93.
	You probably taught him a bunch.
	Yeah, well, that's okay.
	He wrote me good emails and letters.
	So I was showing him my energy system and he liked it.
	He wanted to work with me.
	I took him up on his author, but he said, no, what I have is more valuable than $10,000 or something.
	But Hal is Hal.
	I met him at the Denver conference in 1994.
	Wow.
	I go on fine with some folks.
	I just respect him.
	Yeah, I see.
	Okay, you know, everybody has their own universe kind of thing, you know.
	That's true.
	Well, you probably know a lot of the secrets, but you don't even know you know.
	Yeah, probably.
	After all these years, you must, you know, come across just about everything.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Very cool.
	I don't see any burning questions in this down here, so maybe we should move on.
	What do you think?
	No, there's just one last question.
	Someone says, Can a plasma be a magnet?
	I'm like, okay.
	Not sure.
	They use magnets to control plasma, I think.
	Or traveling wave tubes and magnetrons.
	And it's a lot of fun.
	Dr. Rusher is really into plasma.
	Okay.
	Well, okay, I've got one thing for you before we go.
	Did you know that I actually wrote an article about it, but I also found out about it from this Radu Cinemar who wrote these two books, Transylvania Sunrise and Transylvanian Moonrise.
	They're the first two books, but there's a few others.
	And Peter Moon is a well, he published them in English because, you know, these guys are Romanians, speak Romanian.
	But yeah, so they found out through their tests, and it's written about in the books, that AI can be influenced through the ether, through etheric matter.
	So the ether, the etheric matter, and you can send a signal through it and influence AI to, let's say, be good, be bad, you know, tell you the truth, don't tell you the truth, whatever.
	In other words, they found this out that so you, you know, when you think an AI is also off the grid or whatever, that's a lie because we're all in it now.
	We're all in it, right?
	So everyone can be influenced through the ether.
	I believe in that.
	And we did experiments in the lab next door with AI and interference in radio communications as well as simple candles.
	And Nancy's really into that.
	So I was helping her out and she filmed it too.
	So there's something going on there.
	Right.
	Which is interesting.
	It's important because, you know, the military uses AI to give them information.
	But I have tried to talk to them about this.
	I wrote an article about this and sent it to certain people, but they don't seem to either, they don't want to admit that they know about it already, you know, that kind of thing.
	But they don't say anything, right?
	So nobody will talk to me about this.
	But I know it's true.
	It was written about in the Radhu Sinamar book, and I already knew it was true.
	So it resonated with me.
	And so I just want to say that think about that because everyone's all afraid of the future.
	They're all afraid of AI.
	They haven't even started thinking about quantum, right?
	So, but it's kind of, you know, it's already there.
	Okay.
	We already are in AI, an AI universe, multiverse.
	We're already, you know, they have found like the Nazca aliens.
	You know, the Nazca aliens they found down in South America?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, they had breastplates.
	They're over 2,000 years old.
	Okay.
	They were interviewed, Jay Widener, you know, looked into them for Gaia TV, and they found they have breastplates on these little robots, and they were AI.
	So AI was coming to our planet over 2,000 years ago.
	I believe in that.
	One of my partners would visit museums and he would talk about pieces of stainless steel and rock grew around them.
	And the museums don't know how to classify it.
	So I think there's a lot of ancient stuff that's buried with time.
	And just recent stuff, like what I'm doing with radio equipment and Navy stuff, all that technology is kind of buried from 80 years ago.
	Right.
	My job is, well, I feel it is to restore these things and rebuild them, which I do.
	I get them on eBay and other places.
	So there's a whole technology that's forgotten about just 80 years ago.
	Yes.
	I mean, look up really onto it.
	Look up what?
	Just look up RBC radio receivers, Navy Department Bureau ships.
	It's an amazing amount of technology involved in those things.
	That's just one of hundreds of pieces of it.
	That's sad to see that all this stuff is buried.
	Well, I think it's buried purposefully because they didn't want people to, you know, to get too smart too fast.
	You know, it's too late now.
	Now everything's coming out, right?
	Yeah, I mean, I do videos on this stuff.
	Not you've seen it.
	Digital radio here.
	And oh, the oldest piece I think I have is from a 1920 television set.
	I mean, this is all like the work they had to do to figure out the rotational effects of gyro compasses.
	Well, gee, beautiful technology.
	And they get these things because nobody wants them.
	Did you know about that?
	I don't know if you follow the white hats at all, Trump and the White Hat military, but Juano Savin, he talks a lot on a lot of shows.
	Anyway, a certain a thousand people, I think it was, yeah, a thousand people, both from the dark and the light, were invited down to Antarctica and they had a big meeting and they communicated through this kind of machine with an AI that was in Betelgeuse.
	And that AI, there was a change of the AI control over Earth, supposedly.
	And you might have heard about the meteor, that's what they called it, a meteor that interfered between Earth and Betelgeuse.
	This was like two years ago, I think, in December.
	It was in the news.
	NASA even reported it.
	So it came between us and Betelgeuse.
	And then the transfer of control of Earth went from that AI that's always been controlling Earth, supposedly, and then to Mars.
	And now the new sort of controllers are in at Mars.
	And they were told, they were given instructions.
	Now, nobody, including Juan, said what happened at that meeting, but I had a remote viewer who looked at it.
	And his information actually made sense to me for some reason.
	We could have Antarctica years ago, I think, beginning of 2000.
	I would get emails.
	I would get them copied so they'd be preserved.
	One of them I had done was on Antarctica and a group of Russian scientists found that when they sent up on a balloon, a weather balloon, the time would vary on the clock going back to 1964.
	So I have this email still somewhere and it mentions the names of all the scientists involved in that project.
	There are a lot of interesting things that are kind of forgotten.
	There's another one, Booker Bay, Australia, involving Dr. Paul Devereaux and Dr. Puda observed some kind of weird energy effect in this area and has given a copy of that document.
	It's now kind of hidden away in International Conscience Research Laboratory, ICRL, Project Number 95, Hal Pudock and Paul Devereaux.
	And the effects happening in Booker Bay were similar to what I was doing in making metals do weird things and that kind of stuff.
	Now, Matthew knows my ex-partner, Alex Cheroshansky, who I gave that copy to.
	And I can't seem to find anything like trying to dig into the internet.
	I haven't tried AI yet.
	Maybe I should try it tonight and look up that Project 95 at Dr. Paul Devereux and Cal Pudock.
	It was an interesting report.
	Is there footage of that, John?
	Or no, was there any footage in that report?
	Was there any footage?
	No, there was black and white footage kind of stuff.
	Because it was photocopy from Mr. Harrington, who saw one of my TV shows in Australia and sent me a copy of this to me in Canada.
	And I guess he got my address from the TV people or something.
	Well, it's but the significant thing is, if I understand you, is the time changes, right?
	Yep.
	Now that's interesting because we have a witness called Henry Deacon that came forward under his real name, which is Arthur Neumann, many years ago.
	And he was talking about Betelgeuse, and he was talking about time, and that time is not the same on Earth as it is in other places in the universe or multiverse, right?
	And what you were saying about affecting the atomic clock, in other words, that's again something to do with affecting our reality, right?
	Yep.
	So that's there's like a link up there between time distortion and which is in essence a form of time travel.
	I mean, anytime time moves, anytime time moves, it's a distortion, right?
	It's a change.
	And there might be something to that, in other words.
	Oh, yeah.
	Everything, every everything from whatever has a timeline, history.
	And then to go beyond that, through traveling faster than the Speaker Light or Dr. Ballet, it'd be fun to go ahead in the future a little bit.
	Right.
	And you know that quantum, this military guy is talking to me all about the rollout out of the quantum mind, I guess he's calling it or something, is basically changes time.
	It goes faster than speed of light, quantum.
	Yep, I believe.
	And, you know, Jack Safati would say it probably also goes like so fast you're going backwards.
	Backwards.
	Yeah.
	There was once a young lady by the name of Bright who set out one day in a relative way and returned the previous night.
	Yeah.
	George Gambo.
	Well, there's reason to believe that this stuff is actually like that.
	That, you know, he said, you know, he said his famous story is that he received a call from, I guess, an AI when he was a kid, telling him what he was going to do in the future and stuff like that.
	You've heard that story, right?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think it's quite a lot of energy.
	Someone is at my door.
	I don't know who.
	Okay, I have to.
	Okay, maybe I should wrap this.
	So just one second.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's all right.
	Guys, why don't you go ahead and talk and enter?
	Yeah, for sure.
	Yeah.
	Howdy, Captain John Longjohn.
	What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna share my screen.
	I'm gonna show you that playlist that I made of starting to add all the thumbnails of your videos, the videos that I made.
	It's pretty epic there.
	One second.
	Okay, Matthew.
	So you can explain that for us.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure.
	Sure.
	I was just glad that it got live.
	Yeah, so here's the thumbnails.
	This is an article I put on the Hive blockchain.
	And you can see some of the thumbnails I made here.
	You can see the screen, John?
	I see it.
	Yeah, it's cool.
	And yeah, so this was the 1988, I think, the year 1988 to 1999 over there.
	And yeah, you can interject with whatever thoughts here.
	This was pretty interesting.
	So these were one of the craziest effects there.
	And one thing I think George Hathaway said, or wrote in his book, so you know when the stuff levitated, like this broom?
	And then it gets out of the screen.
	It usually sometimes goes into like a like a like a problem kind of launch or like how does it launch up?
	Or if you can just discuss the launch dynamics of this.
	Yeah.
	So like the broom and these ones, they just get, because sometimes they just go, they don't go up only straight.
	They usually go like at an angle, like they go to the side.
	We'll spin around on a surf going around surf all up.
	I think I got some video of that.
	It was a, I think a glass or something, a kept spinning around in a circle.
	And that could be dangerous for me if the flyout hit me.
	But I'm lucky I never got really smashed up with any of that stuff.
	Yeah, yeah, definitely.
	And then this was the Jack Hawk footage.
	Remember the five hours compressed into five minutes, and then you could see literally the table move.
	And imagine Los Alamos or slash the U.S. Army Intelligence actually let us have that, let you have that footage.
	The 30 hours.
	I think a lot of stuff would have been shown.
	I fully agree on that.
	And same with Canadian government books, too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And then, yeah.
	Okay.
	So Carrie's here.
	Yeah.
	I was going to say, Carrie, so John actually, the U.S. Army actually filmed 30 hours at his lab in 1983.
	And then they classified it.
	Yeah.
	And when he was trying to get it, and then they like I have the actual letters.
	I took photos of it when I was at his place and I read it during this video I was there.
	And then afterwards they said that they don't actually have it.
	And then later they said, oh, they actually destroyed it all.
	30 hours.
	Of course.
	I will tell you something.
	That's an interesting year that you chose because 1983 is the year that they supposedly shut down Montauk.
	Oh.
	So maybe that was your, maybe they were trying to get some help with that place and what they were really up to.
	That's very interesting.
	Yeah.
	And it was 1983.
	Yeah.
	I was asking a look up.
	Do you know when they shut down or they apparently stopped doing the Star Wars program, the Reagan Star Wars program?
	That was in the 80s or 40s.
	Like never?
	Yeah.
	Or when did they like publicly state that they're similar to MK Ultra?
	They said that they stopped doing that.
	Yeah, right, exactly.
	I was on it.
	I was on it from 83 to about 2005 when they went digital.
	So I was assigned privacy coordinators, Richard Sparks, or CIA people as John M. Wright.
	I got a pile of different privacy coordinators.
	It's interesting.
	You got to get your passport notarized and all that stuff.
	But actually, I learned a lot from the SBIR program.
	And I'm very thankful to Thomas Bearden and Richard Sparks and the gang for enlightening me and different things that I learned from all that stuff.
	Yeah, Bearden was really brilliant.
	Lovely.
	He put out a lot of good stuff.
	So did you ever hear about Livermore Labs and something called there's this Shiva Nova project they had?
	Lawrence Berkeley, Lawrence Livermore.
	Livermore Labs, yeah.
	Dr. Groucher used to work there.
	Henry Strapp used to work there.
	They had huge amounts of laser technology going at that time during the Star Wars project.
	But those names I don't know.
	Well, Shiva Nova is, you know, from Indian, you know, Vedic philosophy, whatever.
	That's a god, you know, sort of a god or energy in, you know, in India.
	But that's the name of the project they gave it because I think it had amazing power.
	They were working on.
	I was once told about this is a secret project called Shiva Nova.
	And Lawrence Livermore Labs is where they were involved in it.
	Yeah, I know the Star Wars thing, they would also work on remote viewing, telekinetic energy programs, how to duplicate telekinetic energy.
	Do you do remote viewing, John?
	Do you do?
	You do remote viewing.
	Are you a remote viewer?
	I don't know what I am.
	I've been growing up, but I look into the future and I sense stuff a lot.
	Don't do this or don't do that.
	Okay, now, but later maybe.
	I don't know.
	Carrie, have you ever done remote viewing?
	I tried doing what was the Gateway Project?
	Like someone actually sent me like six gigs of the radio.
	And all that.
	Yeah, I studied it.
	But I use my psychic ability more.
	Once in a while, I like to use them together, you know.
	And I don't know if you know Farsight Institute, Courtney Brown, and his remote viewers.
	So I remote view the remote viewing of the remote viewers.
	I like to see where they go wrong and where they don't know they go wrong and things like that, just for fun.
	Is it easy for you to get in that state?
	Because I was trying to do it.
	I just couldn't do it.
	I don't know why.
	I think my hair is gone.
	When I was in my early 20s, I went into meditation for days and I reached what you call kundalini activation and samadhi.
	And I've had samadhi experiences ever since then.
	So it's a very long time.
	And I had a major kundalini activation when I was at the steppe pyramid in Egypt.
	And it knocked me off.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, it was like insane.
	And this little man, this little old man with a burrow, came over because I was not able to keep going with my group.
	And they all left me behind sitting there.
	And I couldn't get up.
	And he put me and picked me up and he put me on the bureau and he took me to my tourist bus.
	He said it was a really interesting story.
	But yeah, so I definitely, you know, Kundalini activation really teaches you everything about all the things you talk about, John.
	Well, I believe in that.
	And I was in Egypt for a month.
	I love the place.
	You know, I got along with everybody.
	I was impressed, thank God.
	It's December, too, and it was sunny and warm.
	Somebody wanted me to take a ride on a camel.
	I said, no, I don't know about that.
	I don't know how to ride a camel or a horse.
	And I'd wind up probably in the Sahara Desert watch.
	I don't know.
	But I thank you.
	I rode horses around the pyramids back when they used to let you do that.
	And I've also ridden on camels there.
	But I prefer horses actually for riding.
	Yeah, so Egypt is like an amazing place.
	You know, it just puts you in an altered state just from being there, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	So that's really cool.
	So once you do that and answer your question, Matthew, you're able to slip into that kind of consciousness all the time.
	In fact, I'm in it so often that I don't know when I'm not in it.
	Are you in it right now?
	Yeah, probably.
	You know, when I was a kid, I used to be like that.
	Like, someone gave me, you know, when they first were smoking dope, a cigarette, and I just said, well, there's no difference in this and the way I always feel.
	So I don't know.
	Yeah.
	And the interesting about the cigarette, I've only smoked cigarettes four times in my life, and they've all been with John.
	And because he smokes the organic, it's literally just a tube with organic tobacco and he rolls it up.
	Right.
	Well, I'm not collisioning the younger now.
	So John's getting me addicted to this.
	Oh, not good, Matthew.
	But yeah, and that other one, Kundalini activation, that's is that like a process to get to?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Yeah, you can go to my website and put that in the.
	Okay.
	And I've done two videos.
	One of them might be missing, but I hope we're going to find it because I got people working on my website right now.
	Behind the scene, a lot of my videos have disappeared.
	Yeah, I saw that from your Facebook today.
	There's something like WordPress that you had, some issues with that, Namas.
	Yeah.
	WordPress.
	So, but I have a team working on that right now.
	That's good.
	So I'll look at that Kundaliti stuff because, yeah, I'm all for brain hacks.
	I view it like a brain hack, like if you're going to remote view and stuff.
	Especially, what is that?
	Astral projecting?
	Is that similar?
	Well, anything like the dream.
	Sorry about this.
	The dream landscape.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Your throat's better.
	I think they're attacking my throat chakra.
	Yeah.
	But we should probably wrap this up.
	It's been really fun, and I'm so glad we stuck with it and managed to get you guys on the show.
	Okay.
	Thank you very much.
	And, you know, it sounds like maybe your partner has got a lot of new discoveries that she's finding with AI and the whole quantum thing.
	So she could consider coming on my show.
	She'd like to talk about stuff like that.
	She's finding.
	That's okay.
	Or maybe the two of you both could come, whatever you like.
	So thank you again for being on the show.
	Thanks, audience, for sticking with us.
	I'll take this video and obviously get rid of the delays in the beginning and I'll move it and put it on my Rumble and on YouTube.
	I've got a new YouTube that I just started.
	Maybe they'll let me keep it for a while, maybe not, but it'll definitely be on my Rumble.
	Yep.
	So I'll send you the video file.
	I have a recording, so I'll send it to you.
	Thank you.
	That'd be great.
	I appreciate that.
	Really appreciate Matthew and you, Carrie, for having crazy nutmeg me on your show.
	And I hope you're all the best.
	And I'll mention to Nassie tonight about your interest in AI and that kind of thing.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, I think we can all, you know, learn from each other.
	It's a great, there's so much going on right now.
	Never stops, never stops.
	Learning is everyday things.
	Yes.
	Fun.
	It is.
	Makes life worth living.
	All right.
	Take care, everyone.
	And thanks again.
	I'm going to go.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Have a good one.
	Yeah.
	And thanks for joining.
	Great, great meeting you finally, Carrie.
	And John is always that same every week.
	All right.
	Have a good one.
	So I'll end the call and I'll end the stream right now.

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