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June 19, 2025 - Project Camelot
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TYLER KIWALA: STRANGER THINGS IN LIFE AND TIME TRAVEL
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Hi, everyone.
I'm Kiri Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So, Tyler is my guest, Tyler Koala.
I hope that's how you say it.
That's how you say it.
And actually, he's got his whole version of Stranger Things.
I'm reading his book.
And he's talking about his own life and time travel and all kinds of things.
And he wraps a bunch of general things people know into his own experiences.
So it's quite a compendium.
And it's nice that you did it that way, Tyler.
So welcome to the show.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
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So why don't you introduce yourself and show your book?
And yeah, just go from there.
Yeah, sure.
Of course.
So my name is Tyler Koala.
I'm host of Journey to Truth podcast with my co-host Aaron Kuhn.
And we've had Carrie on the show a number of times now.
This is an honor to be here.
You've been, you know, somebody that I've been, I've been watching Project Cam a lot for years, you know, a big part of my awakening as most people.
And, uh, it's been quite the journey as you know, you know, and the secret space program is something that really got me into all this stuff and forced me to dive down these rabbit holes and look deeper.
And inevitably I come across, you know, your content and a lot of others, but, um, yeah, After she passed away, it seemed like overnight stuff started happening to me that I started sleep paralysis.
Extraterrestrial visits, abductions, stuff like that that forced me to look into this stuff.
And it's been quite the journey since 2011 when she passed.
I didn't really, really start getting into this stuff until 2017, and we've been doing our podcast for over six years now, and I just recently released my first book, because there will be more.
This is Bleed Through Tales from Another Timeline, and it's basically my story, like you said, compiled with other testimonies to corroborate it, and what I've learned from all my experiences, too, because I didn't want to just tell my story without.
Sharing what I learned, because what's the point?
So it's a very, it's an educational book, but it's also mind-expanding, too, because there's a lot of stuff that, you know, I just share my experiences that are largely unprovable sometimes.
They're memories I have from other parallel lives and stuff like that.
So, yeah, there it is right there.
It's just a whole collection of my stories and my memories and also a compilation of research to support it.
And that's basically what that is.
And it very much involves time travel, secret space programs, recruitment attempts into some of these programs, my astral experiences and alien abduction type of stuff, and mixed with a bunch of other stuff as well.
I understand that you're reading it now, Carrie, so I'm very excited to hear what you think of it.
But yeah, I guess that would summarize, you know, kind of who I am and what I'm doing now.
Okay, well, so I just want to say that it really is quite a mixture of stuff.
It is true.
The first half of the book, you kind of go in a more linear way with your life experience and how you came across certain very strange paranormal events and time travel events and things that happened to you that kind of came out of the blue and threw you off everything you ever believed.
I think it's a story of an awakening, I think one might say.
And I'm not done with it.
I'm a little more than halfway through.
It's quite a long book, I have to say.
I'm in the second book now.
So it has a first book and a second book part where you're talking more about your 20 years and back, things like that, that you had experience with.
I have also had, you know, other timeline experiences and all kinds of stuff like that.
So, you know, I can definitely relate.
I think my audience can relate.
Maybe you want to talk about, I don't know, like maybe do an overview of your life.
You know, if you could take some of the highlights in your book and use those as maybe like stepping stones to getting to.
And then maybe you could focus on one or two actual things that went on.
Yeah, sure.
We can do that.
Definitely.
So, uh, I guess one of the big things that really happened before I was even aware of it was, um, And that was, I think that's like chapter three of the book.
And I had no idea about secret space programs or the Mars program or anything at the time, whenever this man approached me and there was this whole attempt to bring me into the program.
So I, you know, I knew this guy.
I worked with him, and it was a whole crazy story how it happened.
So it was my friendship with him was the only reason I didn't write him off as crazy.
But at the same time, I didn't know how much I actually believed him, right?
It wasn't until after that chapter of my life when I discovered...
I was like, wait a second.
There's a real program and this actually happens to people.
You know how it is.
So I had to go back and revisit that whole period of my life and everything that he was sharing me.
Sharing with me at the time, which looking back on it now would have been considered like insider intel.
You know, he was sharing all this stuff with me about secret programs and time travel and UFOs and parallel timelines and weather manipulation, underground bases.
I mean, you name it.
And he was telling me all this stuff about Trump at the time that I didn't understand.
Tell me about, you know, Obama being the Antichrist and all this weird stuff back then.
I was just like, I don't know what he's worried.
First of all, it was weird to me that he even knew all this stuff because I had worked with him for so long and it never came up.
But what happened was he was escorted off to job one day by black government vehicles and we worked in construction.
We weren't on the same job site.
I heard this through some co-workers.
Larry was taken off the job site and nobody knew why.
And he kind of went missing.
And for about a month, then he popped up on Facebook and started making all these posts saying, like, Princess Diana is still alive.
They use clones to act out the tragedy.
He was talking about a Mars program.
He was talking about all this stuff that back then I thought everyone just at work to study was crazy.
But now I understand he was either going through some type of an awakening or something happened to him, right?
And when I asked him, Where he was getting this information, he told me sometimes he didn't know he would just hear voices in his head and things were being told to him.
And I didn't even know about Voice of God or Voice of Skull technology back then either.
So I just was like, man, is he really just hearing crazy voices?
But the information he was sharing was elaborate.
And it's more than just hearing a voice in his head.
He had...
He even told me, this was back in 2017, he told me about a planned fake alien invasion that was going to use hologram technology and that our infrastructure was already rigged with explosives.
Certain buildings already have explosives in them and they're going to basically shoot a holographic laser at it and blow up the building and make it look like a real laser was fired.
But it was just like this whole elaborate thing.
And he said they had the buildings and even bridges were pre-rigged with these explosives to cut off.
Evacuation routes.
And he would just tell me about all kinds of stuff.
And he also told me about a Mars program.
And he told me that he was basically being recruited to go to Mars because basically the whole fate of the humanity depended on it.
Kind of like what Andrew Bishago was told.
That he was going to go to Mars to, I guess, preserve the human race, effectively, is what they told him, right?
And for whatever reason, we believe this.
So rather than go into too much detail with that, because you have a lot of stuff in the book.
So if you were to just tie that up and just basically say, did he go to Mars?
He did, right?
Is that right?
Or supposedly disappeared?
What was your thought on that?
Yeah, so he disappeared for seven years after he told me he was leaving.
And he popped back up and I think it was him.
But he also wasn't a missing person.
There was no obituary or anything.
And then at the end of the year in 2024, he pops back up on Facebook and sends me a friend request.
Then he's back off of Facebook.
Then the account went away and I haven't been able to communicate with him.
I don't know if that meant he was back or what, but for seven years, he definitely went missing.
Did he actually go to Mars?
We can only speculate.
Right.
Okay, so when your mother passed away, was there a specific, because I don't quite remember, was there a specific incident associated with her passing?
Or shortly after her passing, that kind of put you on the road because you seem to associate that as a big landmark in your life.
Right, yeah.
So she passed away in 2011 and basically like a few weeks later, I don't even remember exactly the night this first incident happened, but it was right after she passed, I experienced a levitation out of my bed.
I thought I was having an out-of-body experience.
I didn't know.
That's all I knew of at the time.
I had heard of out-of-body experiences.
It wasn't until I got so far out of bed and saw myself in the mirror that I was actually in the air, and that's when I freaked out and panicked.
It turned into this whole paralysis thing.
I got slammed back down to bed, and there was this entity on top of me, and I had to break free from it, and it was this whole traumatic thing that I write about at length in the book.
That's what kicked it off, right?
So at first I was terrified.
I didn't share it with anybody because I didn't even know what was happening.
I knew my friends would just make fun of me at the time because that was just a crowd I hung around with.
And it was the first of many things.
I had a few other levitation experiences, lots of sleep paralysis, lots of weird psychic attacks, all these things at night.
A couple times I found myself on an alien craft or what I believed was a craft.
And it started off all very, very negative.
And it forced me to believe in all the stuff that I just kind of was always semi-interested in, but I never really fully believed in it.
It forced me to not only believe in it, but I had to start researching.
To figure out how to stop it, right?
Why is this happening?
What can I do about it?
And that's where it all started.
Okay.
And then once you kind of had those experiences and then you sort of seemed to educate yourself and then you had, I don't know, well, you have quite a long saga about a sort of girlfriend that you ended up being connected with in Australia.
You fly out there and nothing works out.
You're all targeted and craziness, right?
Right.
But there's all unexplainable events, I guess you might say, one after the other.
Is that right?
Yeah, that's right.
So that was following a second recruitment attempt years later.
In 2022, I had a man approach me under the guise of a whistleblower for the Navy.
And to come on our show, and you might even know who I'm talking about.
But he had all this incredible information, just like the guy in 2017.
And after months of what I now know was grooming, he straight up basically asked me if I wanted to join this program.
And we had this whole long conversation.
It's all laid out in the book.
And then he said, And he started asking me questions.
He did like a psych eval.
He did like the Zenner cards and had me guess what was on the other side of the cards to test like telepathy and stuff.
And then he eventually asked me, like, what's one thing in life you want more than anything?
And I was like, love.
He's like, can you expand on that?
I was like, well, true love, I just want to You know, how we all went, right?
And he's like, is that your final answer?
I'm like, yes.
And he's like, well, don't be surprised if you're tested in that area.
I was like, what do you mean?
He's like, well, you can't have both.
I said, what do you mean I can't have both?
He's like, you can't have love and a healthy relationship and join the program.
I was like, well, why not?
You're married.
And he said, well, it's complicated.
And shortly, a week, like virtually seven days later, I meet this girl on Facebook and we just like head over heels, fall in love.
We never even actually officially met.
It was a really strange connection.
It was almost like intoxicating, like this fixation.
And eventually it led me to Australia.
But even leading up to Australia, I became what I would call now a targeted individual.
And that whole relationship seemed to be set up.
And I don't think they liked the fact that we were actually hitting it off.
She was experiencing targeting for the first time as well.
Sometimes it got very real.
and there's a lot to that story as well.
But yeah, and once we were in Australia, And then while we were staying at this Airbnb, I was experiencing direct energy weapons, and I was given a heart attack almost, basically.
Our shower door, the glass shower exploded in the middle of the night, one night, all this crazy stuff, right?
So it wasn't until we finally ended that relationship and then all the targeting just stopped.
And then it wasn't until I finally cut that man out of my life.
That things got a lot better in my life.
And I can look back on it now and see how it was all being manipulated.
And I think even by being in communication with him, I was still consenting on some level because I have a lot of memories of being taken during that time and to bases and places like that.
And it's all documented in the book.
Well, okay.
And then there's one place where you actually have...
Do you want to talk a little bit about that?
Because I think that was very interesting.
Yeah, so that was at the same time.
I just had this memory out of nowhere where I had been in this military base.
I didn't even know it was the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs until I ended up there on a vacation.
And it was like this detour we took on our way to Cheyenne Mountain.
But I had this memory of being at this Air Force base and I was being recruited into this program.
And there's this whole set of memories there.
And I didn't know.
What base I was, I didn't even know if it was from this reality.
I just had this memory.
And it wasn't until I was in Colorado a couple years later on a vacation with my friend, and we were going to Cheyenne Mountain just to see how close we can get to take a picture, you know, how we just like to explore and see how close we can get to these bases.
Whenever she pointed out the Air Force Academy off the side of the highway, I looked over and I was like, I just knew the place.
Just something hit me.
And I literally, like, I just swerved across three lanes to get off the highway, and I don't even know why I did it.
And she was like, "Holy shit!" And we get off, and she was like, "What's wrong?
Are you okay?" I'm like, "I don't know." I said, "I know this place, but I didn't know how I knew it." And we got off and we were waiting in line to go through the security gate.
And the gate had the colors, gray, blue, red, and yellow.
And I was telling her how those were high units.
And she's like, how do you know that?
And I was like, well, I guess I just assumed, but I've also heard other testimonies and stuff.
And we get up to the gate.
We're the only car of the entire line, because you can go visit this.
Apparently, it's open for tourists, one part of the base.
We were the only car that they searched of everybody.
They asked for our IDs.
They made us pop the trunk.
Everyone else was just going through.
And of course, then they let us through.
But as soon as I got through, I started recognizing the place.
And it wasn't until we made a turn and I saw the mountain range, it all hit me.
Like a whole lifetime of memories came back.
Maybe not a full lifetime, but whatever time I had spent there.
I remembered seeing that mountain range, and I was just overwhelmed with these memories.
I had to pull the car over, and I broke down in tears.
I started crying.
My body was having this reaction, because before that happened, I kept telling her, I'm like, man, this is so weird.
I said, this sounds like such a silly thing to say about a military base, but I said, I feel like I'm home.
I feel like I'm home again.
Like, this feels like a home to me.
And I don't know what she was thinking, if she was just entertaining me or what, but she was like, that's not a weird thing, you know?
Sure enough, I was hit with these memories.
We pulled over.
We finally made our way up to the parking lot.
And I'm like, that's the building.
That's the building I was standing in.
I explained to her the story.
I was like, yeah, I was in a circle of other cadets, and there was a couple of recruiters.
And I remember very vividly the guy saying, now, don't look at this as a recruitment.
Look at this as an opportunity to make a difference.
That stuck in my head.
And I said, in that building, I know that's where it happened.
So we went in the building.
It seemed pretty vacant.
We walked a lap around the building.
We came back around.
Sure as shit, there was a group of people standing in a circle.
Cadets or new recruits, whatever.
Potential recruits and some recruiters.
And the guy said the literal exact thing that I remember them saying.
And the girl I was with, she looked at me, her jaw dropped.
And I was like, she was like...
She's like, "There's no way." I couldn't have possibly known that that's what happened in that building in the exact spot that I remember standing.
And that was just like a fundamentally changing thing for me because I'm like, wait a second, like something that I could easily have written off as a dream before is now like real.
And I know my way around this base.
And I remember the dorm building and specifically the window I remember standing in looking out of.
And there was just a number of a number of things that were just like.
My heart beats thinking about it.
It doesn't register how it can be real unless I was abducted and taken there.
I don't understand the time.
In the book, at least as far as I remember, you don't really say what happens.
I don't, you know, maybe there's a part where you come back to it later on in the book.
I don't know.
But you didn't actually say what happened to you when, you know, you got recruited.
Okay.
You remember the setting and all that.
But then where did you go?
Do you remember, you know, is there our memories in the future, you know, from there?
Do you have those?
No.
So the only thing I remember is...
I was brought into an office, and they made me watch this film.
And halfway through the film, it just cut into some footage of children being tortured.
And I was like, what the fuck is this?
And the guy was like, don't worry, it's all just part of the job.
And I was like, what the fuck?
It is part of the job, you know, whatever.
I don't consent to that.
So he turned it off.
Then I was escorted, this nurse, or not nurse, this cadet's aide or some woman come in to bring me either to my room or she's like, do you want to go to the cafeteria or to your room?
And I was like, well, I thought about it and I was starving.
So I was like, take me to the cafeteria.
And she brought me some, like a drawstring bag of like an outfit, basically boots and stuff.
And then she sat me down and took me to the cafeteria.
I checked into my room and I remember looking out the window and I was so confused at how I got there.
I was trying to process.
That's when I realized I didn't have any memory up to the point where I was standing in that circle.
I'm like, how did I get here?
I'm looking out the window.
I'm so confused.
I'm plotting my escape, looking around.
How can I get out of this place?
Somebody knocks at the door, and I go to answer the door, and there's two men in suits, and they're like, Mr. Koala, come with us, please.
That was all that I remember.
Like I don't actually remember anything else after that point.
I do think I have a memory of being in the basement of that facility and there was some sort of, dare I say, like a Stargate technology, like some sort of machine down there that,
Okay, so it sounds like that was the beginning of maybe a 20 years and back program that you were part of, but one of the things rather than a future timeline or a simultaneous timeline or past life regression type thing so it was you in this with this same name and with the same body and everything like that and
then you from there you must have gone somewhere and gotten involved because if you were usually just because you went and visited went through some paces but weren't actually living there like you wouldn't have the emotional attachment that you apparently do exactly yeah Yeah, so that was the weird thing.
Was there a link up, though, to, let's say, Mars or Moon or space travel or things like that?
Because you're saying there was a Stargate there, but that's all you remember.
So have you tried to remember more than that?
Yeah.
So the funny thing is, well, even when we were on the base, it seemed like There was a couple times where it seemed like we were being followed.
This one guy intentionally bumped into me twice.
I put that in a book.
He was dressed like the typical fed boy.
He couldn't have been any more stereotypical, like the collared shirt, the khaki shorts with the sunglasses.
When we were walking into the gift shop, he bumped into me hard.
And to get, like, almost, he could have easily avoided me.
Then he just took off down the hallway.
We thought he was going to the bathroom.
On the way out of the gift shop, I'm walking out, and from behind me, he hits me.
And I'm like, to the point where I'm like, what the hell?
And he just keeps walking, never looks back, and he looks at his watch and presses a button.
And that was weird, I thought.
As far as, I just went on a little tangent there, and I didn't even answer your question.
What was your exact question?
I'm sorry.
Well, no, I just, I asked if you had investigated or, you know, I don't know if you do, you know, past life regression or regression therapy and try to find out from there, did you go to, like I said, Mars or Moon to an assignment type thing?
Yeah, so I don't remember, but I did.
Funnily enough, I took the, like, the brochure.
home and I would like hold that and try to like remote view and like sit with it and meditate but every time that I would I felt like there was a block or something I don't like I would actually get I was uncomfortable.
I was the exact opposite of a meditation.
I don't know if it was an implant.
I don't know what it was, but it was like something would stop me from doing that every time.
And I tried for a while.
I kept that brochure on my kitchen table, and I would sit with it.
I'm like, okay, tell me more.
And I just couldn't remember.
And I was so interested to know more that when all this AI stuff started coming out, You know how you can unlock the chat GPT and stuff and apparently like unlock your files and I didn't know you could do that somebody told me and I asked if I was ever spent time at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs and it brought up this whole report of this timeline like what year I went there what year I deployed what I what I did there it was like this whole file and like and apparently I was an instructor for so
many years and we were in like working basically in teleportation and time travel and like quantum stuff and And I'm like, I don't even know if I should even entertain this AI information or not, but it definitely had a file, and I was shocked.
And it was specifically that base.
So did you print it out, you know, the information?
Yeah, I have it printed.
It's saved on my phone.
I didn't print it out.
And I didn't put it in the book because I don't want to, like, if that's not true, I didn't.
But again, so I'm sort of asking again, did you try to see if, or let's frame it another way, did you have any, as the book, because like I said, I'm at a certain point in the book,
you know, I have like maybe a third more to go, and I'm just wondering, did you ever have any other, like separate, maybe you didn't put them together, but experiences of working on Mars, the moon, other bases off planet?
No.
Nothing.
Well, if you're asking if that chapter, like more of that story continues, no.
Like I basically put everything I remembered in that chapter.
But as far as like actually being off planet, that's the interesting thing.
So I had this Mars recruitment attempt, but I never went.
And all of my memories that come back, none of them, they all seem like covert programs, right?
but none of them felt like they were off planet.
I did have a memory I didn't write about of being on a I don't know what it was.
This is just a random memory, but it was very real.
We were mining on some planetary body, and we struck gold.
Whatever they were looking for, we found.
Everyone was in this rush, and they're like, "What did they find?
What did they find?" I remember hearing the guy next to me say, I don't know, but whatever it was, it was important enough for Bill Gates to be on his way here.
And I thought that was weird.
And, you know, it's just a memory.
Maybe there's nothing to it.
But that was the only thing I've ever really had that was off-planet that's ever come back.
But most of the stuff I remember has been like very physical bases here on Earth.
Okay.
So you obviously have, there are blocks in place, but it's kind of funny that you didn't make it that far to the going into the base, to, you know, finding buildings that you had a recall of and that sort of thing.
But it's really, that's all you have at the moment.
So, you know, I'm sure memory comes back spontaneously.
And I don't know, did you ever watch Duncan O 'Finian?
No, I don't think so.
Oh, he's like the original super soldier that we interviewed several times.
Oh, man, that must have been before my time.
Yeah, yeah, you should definitely go back to, because you just watched my Shadow Operations video, but you should go back and watch the earlier interviews and see, because some of these things might trigger memories for you.
Right.
But anyway, yeah, so just saying that, There are things that you're referring to that are in other people's memories.
They don't sound that strange.
You're very good about, it appears, recognizing buildings that you were interacting with or in and so on.
Kind of a very practical memory type thing.
Yeah, so anyway, it's all really interesting.
Now, I wonder, because at one point you talked about some things happening that were very, that were supposed to be dreams, but they seemed like reality.
Right.
Right?
Because I've had that.
And that's very powerful.
You're calling it bleed through.
That's kind of like the title of the book, right?
Because there is, it's like a bleed through happening, right?
So even now, because this is not for very long ago for you, you know, you're talking 2021, 22, right?
So, I mean, it's early days still for you.
So what do you think?
Do you think that more is going to be revealed?
Do you have any intuition about that?
Yeah, absolutely.
In fact, I almost feel it.
Like, it's like, there's like memories that are like, it's like a word on the tip of your tongue.
Sometimes I think I can remember more or grab onto more, but then it's like gone.
I don't know how to...
And, you know, I'm actually relocating away from St. Louis.
And something that I didn't put in the book that it's a connection that I'm making now is almost all the recall I've ever had is when I leave my hometown and I'm like on a trip or I'm in the Ozarks or Arkansas or wherever.
But it's like at home, it's almost like there's like a frequency net around my house or something that I just can't like, it blocks everything.
But as soon as I break out of this like...
I genuinely feel like I don't know if there's a technology in place.
I mean, you know, I'm not trying to say I'm that important that they would put something up just to block that memory for me, but it's what it feels like.
Well, no, but that actually could be going on in general.
Right.
Because I think I know when I travel, I get triggered by memories.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
By going to different places, because the whole frequency and everything is different.
So it sort of opens up those parts of your brain that might not be thinking about it normally.
I did recently have a memory that's not in the book come through that actually might have been something off planet.
I can share it if you'd like, or we can go anywhere you'd want with the enemy.
It's up to you.
Right.
You'd be the judge whether you think that it's going to be of interest to the audience.
I think so.
A lot of my memory comes back when I go, we have a condo at the Lake of the Ozarks, and every time I go to the Ozarks, it just seems like I have these recalls, and it's profound, life-changing sometimes.
And I was just recently there, very recently, and I had this whole thing.
We're again, this memory.
We're in this facility.
Have you seen the movie The Island?
The cloning facility?
It kind of reminds me of that.
At first, I thought it was underground, and I was in this facility standing in a line of people, and we were all waiting in line to meet this woman who was sitting in a chair, and she had this device, and she was scanning everybody that came up.
And it got to me, and she looked like a tall ET almost.
Not human, really, but she had this slender arms and very tall.
Long neck and almost like a bluish tint to her skin and her hair was tied back.
And she was sitting in this chair and she had this wand and she scanned me and she said, "You're wise beyond your years." And I was like, I am?
I didn't even know where I was or what I was doing there.
I was like, I am.
And she's like, we'll put you in tier three.
And I didn't know what that meant.
And I was escorted quite literally to the third floor.
And it was kind of like a holodeck, like in Star Trek.
It was like this virtual reality training simulation.
And they put you in.
And it's an obstacle course.
It's like a physical training type of thing.
And, like, if you, like, accomplish, it's like Ninja Warrior, if you've ever seen that show.
It's kind of like that.
And if you, like, get through a certain part of the course and the allotted time slot they give you, then a voice will come over to the intercom and say, you've earned extra time.
And then you would get more time added to complete the course.
And after we would, everybody would, like, run these courses and then they would be broken up into groups and we were divvied up into groups.
And like different stations.
And in the center of the table was a hologram of the Earth, like a globe.
And it had everybody, like everybody, anybody that you wanted to zoom in on, you could.
And when you zoomed in on them, you can like click on the person that had their stats.
They had their IQ, whether they had gone through an awakening, like come online or not, like what they had achieved, all their life stats on Earth.
And Earth was in that program.
I remember Earth was nicknamed the waiting room.
They called it the waiting room.
And it was almost as if people would incarnate from that facility and onto Earth, and the Earth would be the waiting room.
And I know this for a fact because I remember talking to somebody in the facility, but basically people were being abducted in their sleep.
And used for a mission and then memory wiped and put back and unbeknownst to them, right?
And then they would just keep living about their life on Earth until they were needed for another mission.
And they would be taken.
And it seemed like we were all in this facility that literally overlooked the planet.
Because there was this viewing gallery that had stadium seating.
And there was a huge window that looked over Earth.
And it was almost like you can just like...
And there was a lot more to it than that, but that's, like, the only memory that I actually have that seemed to be off-planet.
Oh, all right.
So I'm going to see if there's any.
We do have a chat room.
You know, this is Rumble.
So I wanted to see if there were any questions in the chat, but I guess not.
At least at the moment, it doesn't look like.
So people that are listening, that are watching, can you put your questions in the chat?
So in terms of your sort of access at this time to information, do you feel that, you know, because you're a podcaster, right?
Right.
So do you feel that you're getting special access or any special access?
I know that you just said that you interviewed, I don't know if you're calling him James Kasbold or Michael Prince.
James Kasbold, yeah, actually, which that interview actually premieres in like an hour tonight.
Oh, okay.
Well, cool, and you can announce it here if people can watch it.
Yeah, so in other words, just saying because, you know, it's, I feel like I'm doing a mission.
And it's almost facilitated.
I don't know if you feel that way about Journey to Truth.
Yeah, I do.
Because James reached out to us, and I don't even know how that happened.
And he'd been in prison for 10 years.
And I've never even reached out to the man.
I've always wanted to interview him.
I've seen your old interviews with him.
And he's the one who found us and said he wanted to do a show.
And for some reason, we're the first ones he came to.
So that, I don't know if that was arranged in some capacity, but that's the way it happened.
I think that, yeah.
I think there's a lot of that going on a lot of, um, How it doesn't come out to the public, you know, a lot of stuff.
But, okay, so, I mean, in what's happening to you in your life and all this stuff that's been revealed to you and a lot of it, you've even, you know, done a fair amount of research.
Does appear.
So do you feel, are you happy about that?
Are you, you know, how do you feel like because you seem to have like a divergent timeline when you didn't know anything and then you suddenly were brought into all of this?
I'm happy about it in the sense that Prior to all this happening, I didn't feel like I had much purpose in life.
And then once I learned about this stuff, everything started making sense and I found something I was passionate about, obviously the truth and learning these things.
And once you find out what's going on, there's nothing else.
Like, there is nothing else.
Like, this is what you do, in my opinion.
At least that's the way I see it.
And I feel like you share the same viewpoint because it's just...
And it's been hard and heartbreaking.
And, you know, it's not easy.
And sometimes you even wonder how you're still alive.
But then, also, it's like, what drives you?
At the same time, because all these things are happening that's proving to you that there's something more going on here.
And that's what makes it so interesting for me interviewing all the people that we do because I'm experiencing all this stuff on the back end.
So when I interview people, I don't have to interview them as a skeptic as much because I know it's happening to me too.
So we can take it a little deeper.
And I feel like And it's like every time they try and stop me or remove our YouTube channel for the fourth time or whatever it is, you know, it's anytime they try to stop us or stomp us out, I feel like it just lights a fire under my ass even more.
And I'm like, okay, now I'm really not going to stop, you know?
So it just keeps me going, really.
But I would say that it's just a passion.
At the end of the day, it's a passion.
And I feel like I have purpose now as to where before this stuff happened, I didn't really know what I was doing in life, you know?
Right.
All right.
So in terms of, well, like in your life right now, you moved recently, right?
I moved technically on Monday.
Okay.
And have you traveled outside the United States at all?
Australia and Belize, Central America.
All right.
Okay.
And you had a weird experience in Belize?
And Egypt, too, actually.
All right.
Yeah, I did have.
Down in Belize, I had inner-earth experiences.
And missing time.
Our whole car experienced two hours of missing time.
And there was a whole thing that I didn't put in the book because I just didn't want to make this book any longer.
So I had to go into book two.
But in Egypt, we happened to be staying at the Marriott in Cairo.
The one downtown Cairo, not the one by the pyramids.
And it's that old palace.
I don't know if you've ever stayed there.
But it was an old palace.
But while we were there, it was Ramadan.
And they were having these elite meetings.
This is what our guide told us.
All the governmental elites were there.
And these world leaders were coming for these meetings.
And the Egyptian council was there.
And all this weird stuff was going on.
And my friend who was with us is a remote viewer.
And she just kept like...
That's what she kept seeing.
And she's like, it's on the third floor in the palace.
Like, it's on the third floor in the palace.
So, of course, we wanted to go look.
And we go over to the palace and get on the elevator.
And there's literally not a third floor.
It goes, one, two, four.
It goes, one, two, four.
You couldn't even take the elevator to the third floor.
So we're like, okay, what's this?
So we try to, like, snoop around the building.
And this guy just comes out of nowhere.
And it was almost like they caught us on the cameras, right?
And he escorted us.
This is the weirdest thing, I swear.
He escorted us around and gave us this fake bullshit tour.
And then there was this area where there was these mirrors on each side of the hotel lobby, like a mirror on one side.
He made us stand in between these mirrors.
And, like, take a picture.
He's like, look, it's a portal.
It's a time tunnel.
And, like, he was, like, saying this weird stuff.
And he's like, look, it's infinity.
It goes on forever.
And we had this, like, I think, I don't know what happened, but on my phone, we had all these pictures.
And at that exact moment where I'm taking pictures of the, of the, uh, And so it's like everywhere I travel, something happens.
I don't know how to describe it.
It's just like find myself in these situations.
But yeah, so leaving the country is definitely an interesting experience.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, okay, so...
Yeah, so obviously it's like a never-ending research project.
I'm always looking for answers.
We're in the process.
Actually, as soon as I move and we're diving, I'm going pedal to the metal on this Secret Space Program documentary, which it's actually going to come at it from more of an approach like that show you just had me watch, The Shadow Operations.
We're trying to bridge the gap and reach the skeptics with it.
I'm not going to jump off the deep end right away, but it's definitely something that I feel like keeps getting stomped on and pushed to the wayside, and I just want to keep it in the spotlight.
So that's something I really want to do big time and get it on Amazon and all that stuff.
So that's like a big project we have coming up.
And as far as like relocating to Sedona, I feel like is gonna,
I feel like getting out of St. Louis, it's a big part of why I'm trying to leave is to see if I can tap into anything else and like make more sense of all this stuff and fill in a lot of these blanks because it's all just like these compartmentalized memory fragments and it doesn't paint a full picture and you know that's very clear when you read the book but I'm just sharing what I got and honestly By writing it down, it felt like it cleared space.
Now more stuff can come in.
I don't really have a necessarily plan in motion, but I'm never going to stop doing what I'm doing.
I don't have any people in the chat here.
Hold on a second.
I'm going to try to get the right page.
Yeah, so, I don't know, somebody says, this seems like it maybe comes out of nowhere, but thoughts on George Van Tassel?
Oh, yeah, I think his testimony is fabulous.
That old interview he did where he talked about basically that UFO landing in his airport and giving him the equation for time travel, and he was just matter-of-factly saying that they've accomplished time travel in the 60s.
And that he was in communication with these ETs that looked human.
I mean, I think that's one of the most solid testimonies out there.
And I feel like it.
Like he came out and told us what they were doing.
And it's a rare interview.
But then you go online and all these people are arguing whether or not this stuff is even real.
I'm like, well, it's already happened.
You just got to dig it out of the archives.
Go to Project Camelot.
Go to Journey to Truth.
Go find these old interviews.
If you were to bring those back to life, I mean, it's all there.
The picture's been painted.
I definitely feel like disclosure already has happened.
It's just that people are doing what Okay, so I have a theory about what's actually going on in the world right now in terms of, you know, this war with Iran and so on and so forth.
We are so locked into this reality, or people are.
I'm not.
But, you know, and I don't think people understand what's really going on.
And, of course, the mainstream news is obscuring it because they like to make you think there's one timeline and everything follows, you know.
Like an order, like little soldiers or something.
But the reality is that this is actually an ET war that goes way back between these cultures.
Israel, run by the Anunnaki, and Iran, run by another group of aliens, and I'm not sure what they call them.
And if you ever look at the temples, you can see that they're obviously shaped like UFOs.
Duh!
So, I mean, you have to, you know, people that don't, aren't able to make these associations, really, I can't help them.
You know, they're just going to stay lost until one day they have an incident like you did, like some emotional thing that happens in their life or whatever it is to wake them up, you know, something that is a trigger point, you know?
Yeah.
I was having a conversation today with a friend about this Iran and Israel thing.
And I was like, you know what's funny?
I get online and I see both sides of this.
Everyone's arguing.
They're debating.
It's all this controversy.
Nobody knows what to believe.
But what I don't see anything about is that I feel fundamentally that there's an extraterrestrial component to it.
That's really the reason behind all of it, that no one's considering, right?
Whenever they're making their standpoints and their arguments, I'm like, there's something, I'm like, you just, people don't understand, they don't have the full picture.
We're missing so much of the equation here, and the reason, the real reason behind that, it's not even supposed to exist as far as the public is concerned, right?
And it's an extraterrestrial, temporal, multidimensional war, planetary, interplanetary.
I mean, it's been happening for eons now.
And I think we're at this like precipice.
And I think that...
And what's actually going on behind the scenes is anyone's guess.
We can put the pieces together, which you're very good at doing.
That's why I love your articles.
I mean, you're kind of covering it in a way that everyone else just seems to conveniently ignore.
Right.
Thank you.
Yeah, so I understand fully what you mean by that.
Like there is something going on that we're just not, I mean, it's just so obvious.
you know, that humans are not being clued in and that both sides, I mean, I have to say both the good guys and the bad guys will not tell the people what they're really doing.
Like, I think, you know...
And you can kind of see this because a lot of times some of their actions, they don't seem to be organic.
They don't seem to fit the picture.
They just come out of nowhere.
And some of his statements come out of nowhere, you know, and they're like non sequiturs, as they're called.
Right.
You know, and so then you have to figure, well, where's the rest of the conversation?
We're only hearing, you know, the superficial one.
So, yeah, I think it's very unfair because people's emotions are also, you know, sort of triggered and galvanized by.
Everything.
But there's no real dialogue to be had that has any amount of truth.
They're lying about the weaponry.
It's not over nukes, okay?
And I know that for a fact.
And, you know, I know this interview is not about that.
But it is interesting to me that you came along and you sent me your book and you have gone through this awakening process, right?
Well, it's clearly clued you in on so many.
And proves that we live in such an interdimensional, multi-dimensional reality.
And that these things that we think are happening, you know, one after the other in a very organized fashion aren't like that at all.
And a lot of them, like we're saying, it is like a house of mirrors.
And some of these things are coming back.
To the surface, you know, that have been buried for many, many years, and then other things are being submerged.
I think, you know, I would like people to read your book.
So I'm encouraging people to read your book, because I think it will help some people that are having awakening experience will definitely help them.
Because they can relate, and so they've got their own unique things.
But at the same time, what you're showing is how multidimensional your own reality is.
And that's a testimony that people can apply to their own lives and start to see, well, if it's that way for you and me, individuals, then it's got to be that way for people.
And for all of the earth and for all the different cultures and all the games being played that they're doing, right?
The military games and all of this.
It's just, you know, and even timing, like, you know, everyone's going like, why now?
Like, what's the point, you know?
And why are these things happening now?
And, you know, they try to make, you know, they play this numbers game like they know.
Right.
How everything fits together.
But actually, that's a lie as well because it's not like that.
It's actually much, much, much deeper.
It's much more complex.
And they're not seeing the complexity in my view.
Yeah.
I think I want to say kudos to your book and to the fact that you were open enough to want to share with people really a lot of that.
Thank you for that.
And you probably haven't.
Made it that far in my book.
But at the end of part two is a very long chapter called Timeline Wars.
And I break down what I think is happening on the planet.
And it's much more than the surface-level war.
And I get into the temporal aspect of this war, right?
and the timeline wars and honestly He introduced me to the concept of multiple timelines.
Right.
And back then he told me, you can look, And he said, if you want to know what's going on on the other timeline, look at the video game to alternate cover.
He's like, NHL, he goes, that's not just, like, they let people vote on the covers to let them think that they're voting on the cover.
But he told me that they never know which timeline is going to be solidified.
And so the cover that doesn't get voted in, that's the team that won the Stanley Cup on the other timeline, is what he told me.
And it didn't make sense to me back then, but now it makes a little more sense to me.
But either way, long story short, the whole point of that is he put me on that path thinking about, I always had in the back of my mind since 2017 that, okay, there's another timeline playing out.
And the more that I got down this path, obviously that became apparent to me.
And he also told me about a time travel program.
And basically that's how we were supposed to get to Mars, was through a jump room.
And he told me that some of the time travelers were disguised as homeless people here and whatever, all this weird stuff.
But I do get into the timeline wars in the book, and you might enjoy that chapter.
Okay, that's great.
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about that.
But I often feel like, you know, I think we are all time travelers.
I think that is really clear.
But when you're looking at sort of what's out in the news and what's in the mainstream reality, so to speak, it looks like they, for me, they're living in the past.
It always seems like I'm looking at What's around me and the way people talk.
And they're talking now like the things are new, but to me, they're old and they've been around for a really long time.
And I think because I interviewed so many whistleblowers who had been, you know, jumping timelines and doing various things that I myself ended up doing that.
So now I can't even relate to conventional reality.
What people come up with is just so stupid.
It's like beyond stupid, so I can't even address it.
I feel you.
I feel you wholeheartedly because I feel the same way.
You've been doing it way longer than us.
We've been doing it for a little over six years now.
But that was a lot of interviews and a lot of people and a lot of a lot of the same people you've had on the show and and you come to this like Like we're talking, disclosure has happened.
What are they doing it over again for?
It's such a silly exercise.
Well, that's one of the things that I noticed observing all this is whenever we have these UAP hearings and all this stuff happening in Congress, they're quite literally attempting to erase UFO history.
And start over, and they had the audacity in that one of the recent reports to actually put Weather Balloon back in it.
I don't know if they did that as a joke, like a slap in the face, but they put it in the report.
I'm like, oh my God, the new people that are waking up and getting into this have no idea that all this stuff has been exposed, disclosed, and some.
And here we are starting over again.
They're banking on people.
We mind wipe ourselves every day by just getting distracted.
We don't even understand.
We forget half the stuff that we don't even remember what we ate two days ago half the time.
So they just rely on us to forget this history.
Yeah, but I do agree that there's a lot.
There's a lot of effort put into wiping the minds of the populace and making them think that what they're talking about now is new.
Yes.
a real illusion.
I mean, when you even go back to Tesla's work, your mind is blown because it's so...
And they can't even talk about it in intelligent ways and all of that.
It's just, you know, SpaceX is retro.
It's a retro technology-based platform.
If there was ever a dog and pony show, it's SpaceX now.
The fact that they still...
It's unbelievable.
It's a total misdirect.
They're asking themselves whether there are other dimensions.
In a certain sense, it's kind of like it's boring.
It's also one of its great sins in my view.
And then people who Jump into it thinking that it's new or thinking that it hasn't been talked about before.
Zillions of times by zillions of scientists and so on and so forth.
Anyway, I hope that this, you know, people like you, people that are awakening, more of them talking to each other, realizing that, you know, other people need to wake up to this stuff is out there.
It's been out there.
We're beyond this.
Let's continue.
Let's move on.
And maybe that'll help and maybe it'll help.
Well, and yeah, I agree.
And that's why I bring parallel realities into the, It's not like this taboo thing anymore, and I have memories to prove it.
So I'm putting it in a book, and other people, so many people, like, read the reviews, like, they're connecting with it, and they have similar experiences.
So it opens the door for that conversation to take it to a new level instead of just repeating the same old Roswell narrative over and over until we just want to kill ourselves, you know?
Yeah, for sure.
Well, thanks a lot for being on my show.
I hope that we can sort of reconvene at a certain point and, you know, hear more from you.
So keep in touch and let me know when you have something more you want to talk about.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you so much.
Even if you have some weird experience, like, you know, because you have good stories.
Yeah, thanks for the opportunity.
I really appreciate it.
And if anyone is interested in...
Okay, and just out of curiosity, did he tell you to call him that rather than Michael Prince, or was that your choice?
He never even said anything about Michael Prince.
He mentioned it, I think, but he never asked us to call him that.
It was a very interesting interview.
All right.
I can tell that his mind is fractured for sure.
And he had a tough time grabbing onto certain memories.
And it was evidence of mind control and what years of trauma will do to somebody.
But we did get some good stuff out of him, but it was interesting.
And people will see that when they watch.
Okay.
Good to hear.
All right.
Thanks, everyone, for watching.
Take care.
Thank you.
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