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June 18, 2025 - Project Camelot

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LAURA LOUDEN AA19

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	Hi everybody, my name is Laura Loudon and I'm from Edinburgh in Scotland and I'm here to tell my story which some of you might find hard to believe but this is what's happened to me and my children.
	So obviously the first slide is...
	Sorry, I've never done a presentation before and I'm actually not well, so this isn't going to be easy, but we'll try and get through it.
	So, what if I was to tell you all that human cloning may well exist?
	How many of you here would believe that?
	Okay, that makes me feel a bit better.
	Since the 1940s or World War II, human cloning has been going on secretly ever since.
	It's estimated that up to 50% of us might be clones or AI intelligence.
	This, of course, is a high number.
	But what if these claims about cloning were true?
	Well, I'm here today because my daughters dramatically changed over a period of a couple of days, and I mean physically.
	So I was forced to look into this subject of cloning.
	In order to project my views and thoughts on human cloning, I need to go back and cover some vital history in the lead-up to the life-changing events which brought me to this stage today.
	Events I could never have dreamed of, even in my wildest imagination.
	But first of all, I'll tell you a bit about myself.
	So, I was born on Halloween, 31st October 1974.
	And I was born by C-section, which is quite unusual in those days.
	And I was two weeks late.
	I was born at 2.55am in the morning.
	And whether this was orchestrated or not, I think it probably was.
	And as you can see, the planets had quite an interesting alignment that day.
	I only recently found this out.
	I was also born on a blue moon.
	Now, some of you might wonder what a blue moon is.
	Well, a blue moon happens every two to three years and is basically when there's two full moons in one month and the blue moon is the second of those.
	And I think last year, in October 2018, there happened to be two, which was highly unusual.
	However, it's been 45 years since the last blue moon fell on Halloween, and it's actually due to fall on Halloween again this year.
	Is this relevant?
	Well, possibly not to some, but it is to pagans and the people that are behind all of this.
	When I was born, my mum and dad have often talked about there was a lord and lady, and I'll not mention their second name, let's just call them Lord and Lady Smith.
	And my dad always spoke of Lord and Lady Smith having a baby girl at the same time as my parents.
	And my dad speaks of how he was carrying flowers up a staircase, and so was Lord Smith with his flowers for his wife.
	And they both had little girls at the same time, which strikes me as a bit odd because I have since found out that...
	So why would a Lord and Lady be in a normal hospital?
	Unfortunately, there are rumours which have been established that my mum and dad were involved with a satanic sect.
	And they were quite heavily involved with this.
	They know a lot of members of the elite in Edinburgh, some of whom are multi-millionaires.
	Not that I'm saying everybody with money is into this sort of thing.
	It's also rumoured that I'm a twin separated at birth.
	I have always felt that there's something missing from my life, and even as a little girl.
	And when I found out through several sources that I was a twin separated at birth, although this is highly denied by my parents, it did make a lot of sense.
	I've also found out recently that I have four half-siblings.
	One of whom I'd known since I was 15, and I should have clicked to this, because thinking about it now, he looks really, really like my dad, and he's got exactly the same handwriting.
	But however, this is denied as well.
	I attended George Watson's college.
	Which is a very expensive private school in Edinburgh from the age of 4 to 16. My dad insisted that I went to that particular school.
	Even when I wasn't very happy there as a child, he wouldn't move me.
	And I don't know if any of you have heard of the Magic Circle.
	But they actually met at Meierside within the school grounds for a number of years.
	So that's where they were based.
	They've actually recently moved, strangely enough.
	So like I say, I attended there from 4 to 16 years old.
	And I was brought up in an area called Morningside in Edinburgh, which some of you may have heard of.
	My parents divorced when I was age two and my dad met a new partner and married his second wife.
	He worked in Kuwait at this time as an electrical engineer for airports.
	My mum met a new partner and she met him when I was four.
	So that was my stepdad.
	Surrounding the satanic stuff, I do have a couple of memories about being a child within this.
	They seem to be focused on, well, from a child's height, I could see above some sort of stand with a silver bow at the top.
	But I was having fun at this point.
	I was running in and out their cloaks and hiding, and it was almost like hide-and-seek for me.
	But it does strike me as odd that why would these adults that I knew and that I was familiar with be dressed as such and round this silver bow?
	I've also got another memory, well, a couple of memories of being at adult parties where everybody was extremely formally dressed and I was probably one of the only children there.
	And again, I must have been about three or four because I was getting carried about by my mum, my dad and their friends.
	And some of them had on Illuminati masks that you've probably seen in films and stuff.
	But that's about the only memories I have surrounding that stuff.
	I was always told by my mum and dad and by everybody in my family, because obviously I thought I was an only child until recently, but I was told by everybody in my family there was something special about me.
	And when I say that, I just presumed they were saying it because I was their little girl.
	However, it seems to be there's something, but I can't find out what that is.
	And as Miles touched on as well, I was born with a brown mark in my left eye, which is called a nevus, which obviously he's already said Madeleine McCann had.
	And what that means, I'm not sure, because it's very difficult to find anything about I do remember Dave Marrow from being a little girl, and it was from when I was about nine.
	Now, whether it's been from a secret soldier place, because I do remember being at a camp-like place, Where whistles were being blown, we were being woke up during the night, and we had to run around and stuff, and it was freezing cold.
	Or whether it's a memory from satanic stuff, I don't know.
	But I definitely do know him from somewhere.
	Like I say, it's impossible to find anything out at all surrounding this.
	Basically, I've had to dig for three years because of what I'm coming to happen to me.
	And everybody I've spoken to, even if they do know something about all of this, they're not willing to come forward and speak.
	Because they're scared.
	They're scared for their own protection.
	And I've also been told that I shouldn't be delving into stuff like this for my own protection.
	But I have to expose this because it's about children.
	So somebody has to do it.
	At age 14, I moved in with my dad.
	My relationship with my mum had somewhat broken down and I was unfortunately expelled from school aged 16. I was quite rebellious and I was smoking, playing truant and basically that sort of a school doesn't put up with that at all.
	So along with myself, another two of my friends were also expelled at the same time.
	Then after that, my dad actually moved to Spain when I was 18 and I moved with him.
	Now this was due to the fact that he had extorted somebody, which is nothing to be proud of, and he was on the run.
	So in Spain at the time, Europe, sorry, Spain wasn't part of Europe at the time, so unfortunately, at the end, I'll just get rid of that Illuminati thing, sorry.
	Yeah, so at that time, it was a place for criminals to go on the run, basically.
	I don't know if it still is, but at that time it was.
	So we ran a bar there, and I learnt to speak Spanish.
	But after a while, Interpol did come after my dad, and he spent quite a considerable amount of time in jail.
	First of all, in a jail called Funca Lent in Alicante, and then Carabanchel in Madrid.
	They actually at the time were having a problem with Britain over the Bay of Biscay Fishing.
	I don't know if anybody remembers that.
	But Spain at the time weren't in a good relationship with Britain.
	So what they did was they said to my dad, look, you can stay here.
	because for some bizarre reason in Spain extortion isn't looked frowned upon as it is here.
	It's more of a case of...
	They see it as theft.
	So what did you actually steal?
	And because there was videotapes involved, they added up the amount the videotapes would have cost and basically said that my dad was allowed to live in Spain.
	But he did return to Scotland and he did end up getting five and a half years, which he completed later on.
	So I met my husband aged 22 and I was married at 26 for seven years.
	My husband had been in the Falklands War, he was an ex-veteran, 10 years older than me, but he'd been in the Falklands War and he'd only been 16 when he was in the Falklands War.
	And strangely enough, he used to say to me, Laura, aliens exist.
	And I would say, oh Chris, shut up, what are you talking about?
	Because obviously my eyes weren't open then.
	But he did obviously tell me that.
	But unfortunately he died in 2010 with an inconclusive death report.
	Which is exactly the same as what happened to my second partner, who I was with for nine and a half years, who unfortunately died last year.
	So both of them had inconclusive death reports.
	So I divorced from Chris before he died, and I met my second long-term partner, who was a foreman joiner.
	I'd been diagnosed with secondary infertility.
	Because after having my son, aged 23, to Chris, we'd wanted more children, but it wasn't happening.
	So I'd went for all the tests and everything, and all the internal tests as well, and they said that due to a botched-up cesarean section, there was very, very little chance that I'd ever fall pregnant again.
	So I'd accepted this.
	So I didn't think about contraception once because for 14 years nothing had happened.
	But lo and behold I discovered that I was 13 weeks and 6 days pregnant.
	And I think, to be honest, the doctor was more shocked than I was.
	Because she went really red.
	And I'd been there the previous week, but she'd said to me, there's no point in testing you for pregnancy, Laura, because at the end of the day, you know you're infertile.
	And there's less than a 1% chance of you falling pregnant.
	And I agreed with her and said, no, there's no point in your pregnancy.
	So this was a huge surprise.
	But however, life went on, and six months later, I was delighted that I had a little baby girl through C-section.
	And this was my second C-section.
	And what had happened when they took my eldest daughter, I've got to be careful, I don't say her name.
	When they took my eldest daughter out of me through caesarean section, they realised that my organs had all fused together from my first caesarean section.
	So what they had to do was unfuse them.
	I didn't ask them which organs that had fused together.
	But I was extremely ill and I lost a lot of blood.
	So it took me three weeks.
	And I had to have a blood transfusion.
	My mum helped me out a lot, and it took me three months to recover from that caesarean section.
	So after that, I thought, well, the doctors were wrong.
	Obviously, I can fall pregnant again.
	And I went to get an implant fitted, which probably all the ladies here will know.
	It's a contraception method that goes into your arm, looks a bit like a viral pen.
	So I was fitted with that, but I was going on holiday the next day.
	And when the doctor fitted it, she said to me, when you get to your destination, which was Turkey, unravel the bandage and that'll be it.
	So when I unraveled the bandage when I got the R, the actual implant was halfway out my arm.
	It hadn't actually went in at all properly.
	And I don't know what had went wrong with it, but I had no option but to pull it out.
	So, lo and behold, I fell pregnant again.
	And my eldest daughter was only five months old at this point.
	Oh, goodness.
	So I was really happy about being pregnant again, but obviously it was a bit daunting because suddenly I was 39 years and 11 months old, and I had two girls between the age...
	By the way, my third-born, my littlest girl, she was born by cesarean section, but it was a pre-planned one, and that made all the difference.
	And so that operation went really smooth.
	It was like night and day.
	So I felt really blessed, and my mum was helping me out quite a lot at the time.
	We'd repaired our relationship over years.
	So I had the family I'd always dreamed of, even though I had settled down and accepted I could only have one son.
	I was over the moon that I actually had two girls as well now.
	So life went on, as I say, and in 2016 I was probably the happiest I've ever been in my life.
	I'd always dreamt of having three kids.
	And just thought it was never going to happen.
	Until one day in 2016.
	And this might upset some people.
	I don't know if there's children in the room.
	I did see a couple of kids kicking about earlier.
	But anyway, I'll go on.
	My eldest daughter, who's extremely psychic and intuitive, she's actually a firstborn girl of a firstborn daughter of a firstborn, going back five generations.
	And so she's extremely psychic and she said to me one day and she's very articulate for her age and she said that her daddy had given her snuffles.
	Now I didn't know what snuffles meant at that time and I don't know if anybody here does but I had to ask her what she meant and what she said to me was daddy goes like that with his mouth but down there mummy down there and as well as that You know, I'm sorry that I have to let yous know this, but it was extremely upsetting because I knew that she was telling the truth.
	She was running about telling everybody, the nursery, everyone that came in the house, you know, Daddy gives me snuffles, Daddy gives me snuffles.
	So, yeah, that was really difficult.
	However, my youngest daughter started behaving strangely as well.
	When I was lying on a settee watching telly with her, she kept on trying to get her bottom into my face.
	And her sister said to me, Mummy, that's because she wants you to kiss her bottom like Daddy does.
	So it was extremely traumatising, obviously more so for the children.
	Now, the police, because we took my daughter to the doctor just to check in case any damage had been done, let's say, the doctor said that it was procedural to phone the police.
	Well, I was quite pleased about this because these people need punished.
	And the police came out and they said to me they believed my daughter, but there wasn't enough evidence to take it any further.
	I mean, I thought to myself, what do they want?
	Witnesses?
	Photographs?
	You know, it's unbelievable.
	This is the age we're living in today.
	There's more protection for the perpetrators of these crimes than there is for the actual victims.
	and I felt extremely let down by the authorities.
	But they said I was scratching They said to me I was scratching the surface of something much bigger.
	And those words, to me, indicated that they were insinuating it was possibly a paedophile ring.
	Because what else could they have meant?
	So, as I say, I felt extremely let down by the authorities.
	And children don't lie at such a young age.
	And I knew my daughter was telling the truth.
	And obviously, But as they said, they couldn't take it any further.
	But this was the pinnacle, or appears to be the pinnacle, in events thereafter.
	Because shortly after that, two CID officers came to my house.
	And bear in mind, they weren't taking the investigation any further.
	And they said to me they required my eldest daughter's DNA.
	And I asked them why they required it, and they said they couldn't tell me.
	So I was very reluctant to give them it.
	But my mum was there at the time, and she's in her 70s, and she, like many of us, trusts authorities, or used to trust authorities.
	And she said, look, they must need it for something.
	So, regrettably, I allowed them to swab my daughter's mouth and take her DNA.
	To this day, I have no idea why they wanted it.
	I was also told around about this time that the children were in danger.
	And this came from a source who had overheard a conversation.
	And they said to me, look, the kids are in danger.
	And at the time, I dismissed it stupidly.
	I should have listened and moved away or something like that.
	So because of the sexual abuse, etc.
	Well, not etc.
	But because of the sexual abuse that had happened to my children, a child protection order was placed on them.
	And my lawyer said it was routine and there was nothing to worry about.
	And in this particular nursery that my children attended, there was actually eight children in one class with child protection orders on them, which is pretty high considering the amount of pupils in one class.
	But my lawyer was wrong and I was told that I had to go to court.
	Now, I was told this four months or five months even after the child protection order had initially been put on the children.
	Now the police and the social work knew and had established that I had nothing to do with the sexual abuse allegations and my children weren't any longer seeing or having any contact with the perpetrator of this horrendous crime.
	My son at the time was 16, so this didn't affect him.
	Well, four months later, like I just said, sorry, I had to go to court.
	I went to the social worker's office one day and they said to me that they were applying for an emergency care order and I asked them why and they just said you'll find out at Well, they were wrong.
	So I phoned my lawyer and my lawyer said he'd meet me there.
	Well, the first thing that he said was, where's the smoking gun?
	Because no event had actually happened prior to this in the lead-up within the four to five-month period.
	From the sexual abuse allegations to the social work suddenly deciding to take my children into care.
	Apart from me being moved around by the council, which wasn't my fault.
	But an interesting fact is there's only one in 400 cases in Scotland that get refused by a judge when social work apply for emergency care orders.
	So it's hardly a fair figure given that...
	And the reason that they took my children was they said there was risk of future emotional harm.
	And this is something that the social worker are using more and more now.
	They've not got enough evidence to take your kids, but they use that because it's like a crystal ball approach, they're calling it, isn't it?
	It's when a judge thinks he can foresee the future and says, well, this might happen, so we'll take the children.
	And it's very difficult to prove, but it's very difficult to disprove, because nobody knows.
	It's something that hasn't even happened yet.
	It's ridiculous.
	So my children were taken into care, and I was absolutely devastated.
	I should say as well that the social work always apply to do this on a Friday, and that way no judge will refuse that order, because over the weekend the social work department is shut, so no support or anything can be put in place for the children.
	I was devastated, to say the least.
	And basically, three of the reasons that they gave was, first of all, that I had made up the fact I'd had bedbugs.
	Well, I had had bedbugs at one of my properties, and Rent-A-Kill had treated the bedbugs three times, at a cost of no less than about £700, which the landlord paid for.
	But because of the people that were staying above us, the cross-contamination, as soon as we got rid of ours, I think they weren't prepared to pay the money.
	And I think that's how we were getting reinfected with them.
	So that didn't work with the bed bugs.
	So I'd had to go to the council to say that I needed somewhere to stay because we were absolutely covered in bites.
	And also they said that I'd moved around too much.
	Well, yeah, I had moved.
	I'd moved because of bedbugs.
	And I'd also moved because the council kept moving me.
	And they'd moved me from pillar to post.
	And they also said it's because I had assaulted somebody.
	Well, after my children disclosed what they did, or my eldest daughter disclosed what she did anyway, I did go up to face my ex-partner with the allegations.
	And he just said, what are you talking about?
	I'm not wanting to listen to this.
	So I lost my temper and I hit him with my fist once and he suffered a black eye.
	He was actually taken to hospital but he was released, sorry, discharged about 15 minutes later because there was nothing wrong with him apart from a black eye.
	I'm not proud of the fact I assaulted him but nothing was taken into account.
	there was no account given to the fact that I'd been understandably upset and also But what the judge said was that I could have got the jail.
	Now, this is something called supposition in law, and really, at the end of the day, it's could have, would have, should have.
	It hasn't happened, so there was no proof at all that it would have done.
	But I didn't get the jail, and the whole case had been dropped anyway at a later stage.
	And yes, I had been moved by the council.
	They'd moved me to a 13 flight up high-rise with no lift, which my health visitor deemed to be unsuitable.
	And then they moved me to a hostel for prisoners that were just out of jail, getting out, I think it's called a halfway house.
	So that wasn't an ideal property, but I didn't moan about that.
	But then they moved us again, and they moved us to a hotel which was run by Russians.
	There was other families in that hotel with child protection orders, and I have been told that Russian mafia have got something to do with this, frighteningly enough.
	So it felt as if a lot of this was orchestrated as some kind of agenda, because in court you're not allowed to speak, even when total lies are being told about you, and social work, in my case anyway, are extremely good at making up stuff.
	And blatantly lying in the reports.
	And when you're not even allowed to say that's not true, what do you do?
	I could have proved in two minutes that I'd had bedbugs, but given the amount of time I had to get up to the court to fight my cause, I didn't have time to go and get the emails from Rent-A-Kill.
	And I didn't even know that was part of the report.
	So anyway, the social worker in question looked quite smug at the judge's decision.
	And I remember thinking to myself, how could anybody be pleased?
	Tearing a family apart.
	Anyway, I should add that my children were overly familiar with this guy.
	And when I say that, the first time he met us, he came to the house and my children were all over him.
	I don't mean all over him.
	What I mean is they ran up to him, they greeted him, they didn't say his name, and I just presumed it was because he was a social worker and that he was good with kids.
	But I did think it was odd, because especially with strange men, anybody here that's got children, you'll know that kids aren't usually like that with strangers coming into your house.
	Even for a wee while, they might hesitate and then go across to them.
	But I thought it was odd.
	They seemed overly familiar with them.
	And then when he left, my daughter said to me, Mark had had a beard.
	She said, Mark used to have a beard, mummy.
	And I thought, an odd statement, maybe she knows him from somewhere.
	Maybe it's from the nursery.
	He might have been visiting another child.
	But for some reason, she came out with a statement.
	Well, I approached him about it the next time I saw him, and I said, my daughter seems to know that you used to have a beard.
	And he said, I've never had a beard.
	Well, I looked him up on social media, and I found him on SoundCloud.
	And he did used to have a beard, but he denied this.
	So I took the photo on SoundCloud.
	To his senior.
	And she wrote a letter, she said, just to keep everybody safe.
	Basically, to keep my daughter safe and him, because obviously if they'd said anything untoward about him, his job would have been on the line too.
	And she wrote that he would never have one-to-one contact with my daughters again, but this was never adhered to, and he did have several contacts with my daughters after that, one-to-one.
	So I was granted by the courts three contacts a week.
	I mean, it was bittersweet.
	The girls were very upset when leaving me, and it was upsetting for me to see them upset.
	They were attending a nursery at the time called...
	And it's had some bad publicity over the years.
	Anyway, I'll get to that in a minute, because the slide seems to have disappeared.
	But, yeah, the social work said that I was very stressed, understandably so, after having my children removed.
	So they sent me to a psychiatrist, rather, consultant psychiatrist.
	And after meeting her for an hour and crying the whole time, just telling her I wanted my kids back, she thought, she actually said to me at the end of the consultation, she thought she'd be sending me to the Royal Edinburgh Psychiatric Hospital that day.
	And that's how badly the social work had painted me out to be.
	Which was really quite shocking for me because it was as if they were trying to paint me as crazy.
	And she wrote me a diagnosis that day and she put in it, Laura is suffering from circumstantial anxiety and nothing else.
	So I was actually really happy with this diagnosis because I thought, well, this is going to go in my favour.
	I took it to my social worker the same day, took it straight down, who bizarrely questioned the authenticity.
	Of the piece of paper.
	But once he'd established that it was a real piece of paper, he was absolutely livid.
	And he took it, he threw it across the room, and he said, that means nothing.
	If I say you're mentally unfit, you're mentally unfit.
	So why did he send me there in the first place?
	It was as if they were trying to paint me as crazy, and because the diagnosis wasn't one that suited them, they didn't want to know.
	So obviously at this time of my life, I cried myself to sleep.
	I couldn't understand why they weren't happy with the obvious diagnosis and the fact that I'd been given a secure tenancy.
	So there would have been no more moving around for us.
	Another strange thing that happened at this time was my lawyer dropped my case and he said he'd been ordered to by his senior partners.
	And this was despite him being really...
	And it did seem odd.
	So I tried to raise a complaint as to the social worker's behaviour, but I wouldn't advise that because these people don't like being challenged.
	However, my children had been in care for around six weeks.
	They'd been taken off me on the 14th of October 2016.
	And as I say, I was seeing them three times a week.
	Well, I saw them on the 19th of December and they still seemed like my children.
	And I know how that sounds, but let me get there.
	I received a call that day from a social worker.
	sorry, it was the next day from a social worker who urgently needed to see me.
	And he said Well, this was news to me, because I'd just been at a meeting a few days prior to that, and I'd heard how the children were settling in quite well.
	And I can remember begging him, please don't move my children four days before Christmas, because the lead-up to Christmas, I thought, it'll put them off Christmas for life.
	You know, a traumatic move for that.
	And plus I argued I had a secure tenancy and a psychiatric report.
	What more did they want?
	But he was emotionless and I requested that I could I please go with my girls from foster carer A to foster carer B and he said yes Laura that will not be a problem but sadly that didn't happen and he didn't phone me.
	So in the swift notes, which I don't know if anybody knows what swift notes are here, they're notes which are privy to social workers and lawyers, and you're not allowed access to them.
	But basically my lawyer is, and my children left foster carers A on the 21st of December 2016, but they didn't arrive at foster carer B till the 22nd of December 2016.
	So there's 24 hours missing out my children's care plan.
	Now, when I next saw my daughters for a Christmas contact on the 24th of December, two days after they were moved, as soon as they came into the room, they looked different.
	And when I say different, a mother knows her children.
	And I didn't know at the time what was different about them, but they just seemed not themselves.
	They were listless and they were pale and they looked physically different, but I couldn't pinpoint it at the time.
	I was very, very confused and I said straight away to the social workers who were both there at the time, the one that I didn't like and as senior, what's happened to the kids?
	They seem different.
	And they just put it down to the fact they'd just been moved because at this point in time I didn't know there was 24 hours missing out their care plan, so I just presumed they'd just been moved.
	But I just thought, what on earth is going on?
	It was very, very out of sorts.
	So intuitively I knew someone was different than them both, and they didn't see themselves.
	I took lots of photos that day, and that night when I was looking through the pictures, I noticed that both my daughters had changed eye colour.
	So I've had to kind of conceal the identities of my children.
	But that is the same child.
	So my youngest daughter, sorry, my oldest daughter, because that's the youngest one on screen just now, my oldest daughter had went from having green-blue eyes, like my own, to having a sort of dark hazel colour.
	And even stranger than that, my youngest daughter, who you can see here, had went from having blue eyes to having really dark brown.
	But like I say, I've had to try to keep their identities hidden.
	Now, I can only show the eyes of them now because I've got into a lot of trouble.
	But you can see the obvious difference from blue eyes to that.
	This is the same child.
	So, obviously, as their mother, I knew something wasn't right.
	But there were other differences as well.
	For example, my littlest girl had a little frown that came upon her brow every so often when she looked to the side or she concentrated on something.
	But that had since gone.
	Their personalities were different as well.
	Alicia's favourite colour had been pink.
	She'd always loved pink.
	Suddenly she loved yellow.
	She didn't like pink.
	And her tongue tie had disappeared.
	A condition that children are born with at birth.
	And I was told it was a severe tongue tie.
	But because it didn't affect my children's eating or my child's eating or speaking, they didn't operate on it.
	But anybody here will know with children, especially a mother, you know your own children.
	And it's really insulting when people over the last three years have said to me, is it not the lights, is it not the hues or the clothes that they're wearing, when no, it's obviously not.
	So I was very concerned about them, obviously, and I went to ask for a doctor.
	Now the social workers in question said that there's no need for a doctor to look over them, but I argued that I was a concerned mother and I was concerned for their health, in case an underlying health concern.
	had caused this change in their eye colour.
	Now, we're not just talking about one child changing, we're talking about two sides.
	However, I was met with another plain no, so I had to actually go to the second top social worker in Edinburgh, who was a gentleman called Mr Bell, who's since left, and he said to me that he didn't understand my big ask in wanting the children looked over.
	And he stuck up for me.
	And he got them to see an optician, first of all.
	But the optician clarified that by the age of six months old, your eye colour is determined and only changes over time or gradually.
	So they were as baffled as what I was.
	and we had to actually wait seven months until a consultant's appointment came through at the Sick Children's Hospital in Edinburgh.
	Now, by this time...
	But we were met with two consultants at the hospital.
	And that's my eldest daughter.
	As you can see, her eyes used to be blue.
	And now they're not.
	So anyway, I pointed all this out to them.
	And the consultant wrote a seven-page report on both my children.
	But it just rose more questions than before.
	Because now, Sophia...
	So her tongue tie had gone.
	So had her allergy to penicillin and she was no longer anaemic, which she had been her whole life.
	So the conclusions to the reports basically read that They didn't know what had caused the changes.
	And what they wrote at the very bottom of the report was, it is noteworthy that in 10% of children over the age of six, eye colour may change slightly over time.
	Well, this didn't give me any answers because my children were only three and four at the time.
	And it was very difficult to accept this medical diagnosis, because it wasn't really one, and get my head around it.
	I mean, like I say, not one of my daughters changing, but them both.
	Another strange thing they kept on saying to me was, "How's the dog Max, Mummy?" And we never had a dog called Max, so I didn't know what they were talking about, but they were like, "How's Max?
	How's the dog?" And I just pacified them by saying, "Yeah, he's fine." I started searching for answers myself because I knew something wasn't right.
	And I needed to know what had happened.
	I mean, what are the chances of two children changing so dramatically over the space of a couple of days?
	I'm sure anybody here would have wanted to know the same.
	My family and friends were in agreement about this change, so it wasn't just me.
	But obviously with them having seen a doctor, what else could we do?
	There's not exactly somewhere you can go.
	At the same time as this, I was receiving really terrible images on my phone.
	And my phone was hacked through unknown sources.
	I was receiving photos of gore and horrible, horrible pictures of chopped up body parts, eyeballs, you name it.
	And when I went to the photos that were appearing in my gallery and I went to source, it was coming up unknown.
	Or, for example, one time it came up, India Train Times, which was an app obviously I'd never installed into my phone, but suddenly it was there.
	So my phone, like I say, was hacked, and hundreds of my photos disappeared from my phone.
	And these included photos of my children growing up.
	It was like these people wanted to just black them out.
	And when we went through the photos not that long ago, there's hundreds of them.
	That are just, when we try to put them onto your hard drive, there's hundreds that are just black.
	So it's like they've not been deleted, but when you go into date created, they've got 10th of May, for example, and then date modified, the 12th of May, or thereafter.
	And I didn't modify these pictures.
	So I took my, I think this was phone, approximately phone numbers, eight, because I just kept thinking my phones were screwing up on me and buying new ones.
	But the social work were like, why do you keep changing your numbers so many times?
	And I tried to explain it to them, so I needed proof that my phone was hacked.
	So I took it to the O2 shop, and the O2 guru stated to me that my phone was definitely hacked.
	He said that two attempts had just been made from Darlington, right in front of him, when he was downloading my photographs to factory reset my phone.
	He said two attempts from Darlington had been made to access my phone while he was sitting in front of me.
	So he wrote this in an email so that I could take it to the social work.
	My house was also broken into numerous times and my lock was broken.
	This is just an example of a broken lock.
	But unfortunately, the position I was in with social work, I couldn't report any of this because I did the first couple of times.
	But they just used it against me and told me I didn't have a secure house for the children.
	So I was unable to then keep myself safe.
	It's a very dangerous and vulnerable situation to be in.
	And I can assure you, it was extremely scary.
	When I used to go into my house, I had, for example, a black bag at the door, behind the door, ready to take out the rubbish.
	But when I returned, numerous times it would be slit wide open and there would be rubbish everywhere.
	My stuff was vandalised.
	My stuff was stolen.
	There was stuff that was broken.
	It just went on and on and on.
	My car also was broken into.
	And I was followed to a hotel by two men after an incident in a shopping centre, which I can tell you about at a later stage.
	Now, you'd think that the nursery were going to notice the change in my children after all they attended there.
	And even a parent of another child had noticed it.
	And asked, what's happened to Laura's eldest daughter?
	But the nursery doesn't, or didn't, have the best reputation.
	In October 2005, a woman had died in her house, and her little boy who attended the very nursery in question was left for two weeks, unbeknown to anyone.
	And that's the article in the paper there.
	He attended that nursery, but frighteningly it was actually his gran who raised the alarm after a fortnight.
	Even though he hadn't turned up at nursery for a whole two weeks and they only lived right across the road from the nursery, no teacher or anybody from the preschool thought to check he was okay.
	He was very lucky to have survived and he was said to have survived on food from the larder and needed treatment for dehydration when he was eventually found.
	Another strange thing from this nursery that happened, well, And I was speaking to the little girl and she said to me, oh, your daughter's different now.
	Well, she said her name.
	And I said, well, that's right, darling.
	And it was like she'd noticed it too.
	And she then went on to tell me that dinosaurs, and I know how this is going to sound, but dinosaurs had come into the classroom.
	And taking my eldest daughter and a little pupil called Max up and away into the scan.
	And the fear on her face when she was telling us this story, her mum and I were quite shocked because she wasn't the type of child to have a very vivid imagination.
	And she did look really quite scared when she was telling us about it.
	So it just sticks in my head.
	So getting back to how I was targeted, one day I noticed there were screws on the bathroom floor, not on the bathroom floor, but outside the bathroom floor.
	I didn't think much of it at the time, but however, when I went into the toilet and had a shower etc.
	and came out, I went to open the door and the handle came away in my hand.
	I phoned one of my friends who came up that if I'd had the door completely shut, I'd You'd be stuck.
	And that would have been quite frightening.
	My electricity was also de-earthed by an unknown source.
	One of my friend's cousins was staying and said that electricity men had been round at my house that day.
	Well, I didn't think much of it.
	I just thought they were there checking the meter.
	But when I went to make a cup of coffee, So I phoned the council who came out and said, the guy said to me, who on earth's been at your electricity box?
	And I said, well, Scottish Power.
	And he says, well, I need to report this because they've de-earthed your whole electricity supply.
	If you'd used the oven, which is an electrical oven, or had a shower, you could have had a really fatal shock.
	So we did phone Scottish Power, but Scottish Power weren't due to be in that area for another four months and hadn't been for some time.
	Anyway, these are just a couple of examples as to how these people have intentionally targeted me.
	And as I say, I couldn't report anything to the police because it was just used against me.
	One of my friends, who let's just call her Anne, she offered to step in to help me say that she would be support to getting my children back.
	And she was at meetings with me and she wrote a letter.
	She was actually a student social worker herself.
	Well, however, a couple of weeks later, police visited her and they said they'd had an anonymous report of how her daughter had been playing while she'd been asleep.
	And this is a woman who is a really good mum.
	And even if you do have a nap on the couch, is it a crime?
	You know, her daughter would have been safe in the room with her.
	But it was absolute nonsense.
	But because of this, this discredited her and put a question mark over whether she could help me.
	And she was worried herself because she had a daughter too.
	And she didn't want her daughter being removed like mine had been.
	Obviously since this time, I have been trying to get my children back.
	But they're not going to give me them because they know that I know they're not the same.
	And there's no way they're going to allow that to happen.
	I've even had social worker, my most recent social worker, lying to the extent in hearings that my lawyer has actually put in complaints about it.
	Saying things like, I'd never met with my health worker and saying that my tenancy was about to end.
	And this was months ago.
	So it's hugely organised stuff and I'm convinced that this is to do with child trafficking.
	Over the last two years, the social work...
	Since the children were upset leaving me, they said, obviously children are going to be upset leaving their mother.
	This argument is unsettling.
	I've pointed out to them this is because we've got strong bonds, but I don't know what they want.
	No emotion from the kids?
	Would that be better for them?
	Who knows?
	But anyway, it seems every single thing I did was used against me.
	And like I say, black marks against me.
	I should add as well that I did contact the police about the change in children.
	And I should also add as well that this has happened before in Edinburgh to a lady who had two children.
	She was a teaching assistant and this was in 2014 and this teaching assistant Well, she was actually surprised also when her children were removed, kind of like that.
	And she went into a contract a couple of weeks later and noticed that her kids were considerably different.
	Well, she went to the police about it, because the social work just dismissed her argument as well.
	So she went to the police about it, and basically they said that Well, this certain lady was actually given death threats and had to move to Portugal.
	And I've been told that she left with a substantial amount of money.
	I was given death threats as well.
	And I was told that if I didn't leave If you don't leave the country, you'll be executed.
	That's what I was told.
	And I said, well, I'll leave, but I'll leave with my kids.
	But they said it was void, so I didn't go.
	And basically, I thought, well, the fear that I've got is nothing compared to what the children will be feeling.
	They've also sent me for a psychological full assessment for six weeks.
	Again, it came back as circumstantial anxiety, but they weren't happy about this because they didn't write it in any reports at all.
	And this year I did end up in hospital because of stress, but I hadn't been in hospital prior to that.
	So basically, the psychological report that Social Work requested about six months ago was from a child psychologist.
	And the child psychologist met me for an hour.
	And she met me and my children for an hour and she said that she didn't think I should ever see the children again.
	And my lawyer said this was really, really harsh and didn't know why she'd drawn such a harsh conclusion.
	So when he questioned her as to why through email, he says that she dodged the bullet, that's what he said, and he didn't answer her question.
	And this was despite when I arrived at the contact with my children and her present.
	She said to me, oh, what lovely activity you've brought, because I'd brought Play-Doh, and she said, oh, that's so age-appropriate.
	But anyway, that's what she'd written, and she also wrote that my children should be split up, and it's frightening how much power these people have, because my children were split up just from that one report.
	I have since put in a complaint about a report, and it is actually being looked at by the overseeing body.
	So, again, getting back to the change with my children, I looked at all the possibilities, and the only reason that I could actually put on this after months and months of research was that possibly the more I looked into it, the more it looked like my children weren't the same.
	They weren't the same children.
	And there were so many differences, because with cloning, one of the things they can't deter is ear shape and eye colour.
	And those are the things, or two of the things, that had changed in my children.
	So I looked into this subject first, firstly thought, well, there's no way that's happened, you know, that's far out, sci-fi, etc.
	But the further I looked into it, the more boxes that it ticked.
	I also received information from a very reliable source who told me that both my daughters, my original daughters, had been sold to a child trafficking ring.
	They were alive and well, and they'd been sold to a rich and fertile couple.
	Possibly stockbrokers, we think, but we're not sure.
	They've changed their names, and this person that told me this information, well, there was actually two people that told me.
	They were so distressed with seeing me fret day in, day out, not knowing what on earth had happened to my kids, and they divulged this to me.
	But they are actually in fear for their lives now, and one of them's planned his own suicide.
	That's how heavy this is.
	So it's obviously to do with child trafficking.
	So I decided to expose this as much as possible.
	And I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm reading out.
	I had to write some stuff down in case I forgot.
	So in January of this year, I needed to get some type of publicity.
	I wanted to stop this happening to other people.
	And I'd been told, after months of despair, obviously, as I said, that they'd been sold.
	My kids had been sold and replaced with clones.
	With the Christmas card that I'd found in my car, because somebody thought it would be clever to leave a Christmas card in my car.
	And this Christmas card was in 2017, and it was a Christmas card that opened up as such.
	And my children were on the front of it.
	It was like a portrait type setting and a Christmas card, a Christmas sweetie shop, and they were behind each other with Santa standing behind them.
	And I phoned the critic.
	It's an old Mercedes, so it's not exactly got the best security.
	Somebody had actually deactivated the alarm as well.
	And this card was very peculiar.
	It was my kids on the front of it.
	There was no doubt about it.
	So I phoned the card company in question who said to me the card wasn't available in the shops and it had been privately ordered.
	Now these cards are £12 a shop if you want to get a personalised designer card with your family on them.
	So that as well strikes me as very odd.
	It's almost like they're throwing this in my face if you like.
	I would trust these two separate sources with my wife that told me this information or I would have dismissed it completely.
	But they also told me that this was part of something to do with a 40-year-old child trafficking agenda.
	I knew my girls were different, and due to social work knowing I knew this, things were tense.
	So I was really pleased when Miles from the Basis Project offered to interview me.
	The videos were shot in Wiltshire and covered my story.
	I was really hoping other people were going to come forward too, because I know other people are going through this, I've been told, but they're too scared to come forward.
	There were two comments which were really relevant under the Basis 95 interview.
	One was from a man in Edinburgh who said, quote, People may think this is far out and weird.
	I'm from Edinburgh and what she, as in me, says makes a lot of sense to me.
	I have been saying it for many years since somebody told me.
	It involves a nursery, the elite and judges, etc.
	that could have a link to the Dumbly massacre of young children at a school, Masonic lodges, police and more.
	I just never was able to identify what nursery it was.
	And he goes on to write, So this gentleman has obviously heard about the goings-on surrounding this, like many people in Edinburgh have.
	And you've heard a couple of them say it, but nobody will come forward.
	They're too scared.
	But where does the fear factor get you?
	Absolutely nowhere.
	And this is about kids.
	I can't understand that.
	Anyway, another comment was left by a lady who said, I used to be a social worker in Edinburgh, and what this lady is saying is true.
	So that just goes to show.
	My object here is to make people aware that this is going on.
	It's already happened to me and I want it to stop happening.
	I want it to stop happening to other innocent children.
	Needless to say, since my videos went out on YouTube, the social work have now managed to say that I put my children at huge risk.
	I mean, I didn't divulge their last name.
	They've got a different last name to me.
	And I also use photographs from when they were babies and only put their eyes like you saw earlier.
	So I didn't understand that, and my lawyer said it was unforgivable.
	So now I don't get to see my children at all.
	But that was probably going to happen anyway.
	I mean, we're supposed to live in a free speech country, are we not?
	And surely you're allowed to speak your views.
	It's not like I identified them.
	However, this is what the social worker managed to do, and assisted by the biased psychologist report that they received, saying I should never see them again.
	That assisted them greatly.
	And funnily enough, I had a conversation with a senior social worker about two months ago.
	And I told her that I wanted more medical investigations as to why this change had happened in my daughter.
	Well, at the time, I'd spoken to my housing officer two days previous to this.
	And we were just talking about how I owed a little bit of rent a year.
	It's not a lot.
	Paying it back at £10 a week.
	And he was quite happy at this at the time.
	But then it turned out, after I spoke to the social worker, funnily enough, two days later, the housing officer wrote to me saying he was taking action against me for abandoning my property.
	Something that I hadn't done.
	So they came and they basically put a steel door, threw my son out of the house, took my cat and put in the cat protection league.
	I wasn't there at the time.
	And said that they thought I wasn't staying there and they thought nobody was staying there.
	But you've got to remember, it's all the same.
	People.
	It's the council.
	This was the start of a process which made myself and my son temporarily homeless.
	And it still goes on.
	Even though £10 a week was an OK amount to pay, suddenly it wasn't enough.
	And now they've actually managed to get a decree of eviction granted in my absence.
	And that's for the rent arrears, which were OK a couple of months ago, but suddenly aren't now.
	Even though I'm paying them back at £10 a week.
	So at the moment I'm fighting to keep a roof over my son and my head in Edinburgh.
	But the council's an umbrella to a lot of departments.
	One being the social work department who I'm fighting for my children.
	And another department is one I rent my house off.
	I have a lawyer who's fighting this for me, but it is extremely daunting.
	I feel extremely targeted.
	All I was wanting was the truth or logical answers as to what has happened to my kids.
	But so far, no doctor or any other authority has been able to tell me.
	They don't want to know.
	And now it feels like they're trying to make me homeless and shut me up.
	So we've probably all heard of human trafficking.
	It does exist.
	and it actually makes the second most amount of money through illegal crimes in the world.
	The only one illegal activity There are estimated that 21 million people are being trafficked or into forced labour worldwide right now.
	Trafficking generates $150.2 billion a year in illegal profits globally.
	And according to the USA State Department, 600,000 to 800,000 people are trafficked across international borders every year, of which 80% are female and half are children.
	Children may also be trafficked for the purpose of adoption, funnily enough.
	Both statistics regarding the magnitude of child trafficking are difficult to obtain.
	The International Labour Organization estimates that 1.2 million children are trafficked each year.
	Now, I contacted an anti-human trafficking charity on more than one occasion after noticing this change and after worrying that my original children had been told that my original children had been sold.
	And to start with, they did seem concerned.
	And they eventually got back to me, said that they couldn't help me.
	They only dealt with preventing human trafficking.
	They said they were unable to assist me further.
	It's like within this whole nightmare of a situation, there's nobody that can actually help me find out what has happened or to locate where my children are now.
	The police did nothing to help me.
	The doctors were baffled.
	And it's a feeling very much of being trapped because there's nobody who can actually help.
	And find out what's happened.
	That's all I've ever wanted.
	A definitive reason as to why this has occurred.
	But there don't seem to be any.
	A couple of people have suggested that trauma can change eye colour in a child.
	But that doesn't explain my eldest tongue-tied disappearing or my youngest daughter suddenly being double-jointed.
	In my hand-and-heart opinion, I do not think my children are the same.
	And like I said, a mother knows her kids, no matter who you are.
	If you've known a child its whole life and you know what it looks like, you're going to notice a change like this.
	I'll never forget my social worker's face when I showed comparison photos of my children before and now.
	This was, of course, shortly after I'd noticed the differences in my children.
	The social worker in question had went bright red.
	I mean, scarlet.
	She looked really uncomfortable.
	You would think that your children are safe in social work here, and you certainly wouldn't expect to meet them after just seeing them a couple of days prior to that, to see that they were so different, with 24 hours missing out their care plan.
	It doesn't bear thinking about.
	The corruption case in this whole situation runs right through all aspects of our government, through the education system, i.e.
	the nursery, the social work department, and the police.
	It's a sad fact, but it's true.
	And like I say, my objective is to expose this and make people aware that this is going on.
	I want to save future victims.
	And hopefully my videos and my speech here today will do this.
	Because if I don't do it, who will?
	And I just wanted to read out a little bit.
	So, obviously cloning is a subject which raises ethical issues.
	According to some researchers, there are already clones living among us.
	Many whistleblowers have testified human cloning was developed by highly classified bid-budget military projects.
	George Green is one of the whistleblowers.
	He says that there are eight countries making human clones.
	He tells us that all they need are two cells, two human cells, and a small electrical charge.
	With a fertilised egg and a receiver, a foetus will start to grow.
	In 1979, attorney and financier Dr. P. Beater indicated cloning was far in advance from what the public had been led to believe.
	This was decades before Dolly the Sheep in 1996.
	And in the same year, 1979, Professor of Biology Robert McKinnell wrote, it has been reported that mice and some large domestic animals had been cloned.
	And because of the productive biology of humans being similar to that of mice and other mammals, it is highly likely that humans could be cloned.
	If statements as such are being made in the late 70s, think of the advancements in cloning with what they actually can do today.
	Technically, cloning a human is no more complicated than cloning a pig or a sheep.
	And if the Illuminati have the ability and the money to clone humans, don't you think they're doing it?
	Or are we to be persuaded that they are restrained by moral boundaries?
	There is also a universal ban on human cloning, but why would this ban be called for if it was impossible to clone a human being?
	Could some of our most popular and famous entertainers and or leaders be replaced with clones?
	Pop star Nicki Minaj and Tila Tequila are two examples of celebrities who have come forward to try and expose human cloning.
	It is said that Eminem, Beyonce and the Nigerian president could all be clones.
	If a celebrity decided to quit being famous or if something tragic happened to them, they stand to lose, along with managers and production staff, considerable amounts of money.
	Replacement clones are an easy way to control and manipulate people, allowing the owners to continue making money.
	Donald Marshall, who's a whistleblower for the Illuminati, wrote a letter available to all on the internet trying to warn us that human cloning exists.
	He tells us there are two types of human cloning.
	There's duplication and replication.
	Replication is when a clone is produced from fusing a cell to an unfertilised egg.
	However, duplication cloning involves growing a full-size child or adult clone in a tank, which apparently takes five months.
	Many would argue that nowadays this process is much shorter.
	There are other celebrities who have tweeted and said that human cloning does exist.
	Rapper Bob, sorry, B.O.B., Kevin Hart, Kid Bruv and Triple Red actually say that they are clones.
	Through the ages, the shadow elite seemed to be conditioning the public to the idea of cloning.
	Now, we've got The Simpsons, and obviously The Simpsons is well known for predictive programming, which seems to come from inside knowledge.
	The show has covered the subject of human cloning.
	So has Family Guy.
	In one episode, Stewie makes a clone of himself, and it's called Big Stewie.
	There are countless films, too, which are all about human cloning.
	To name but a few, There's The Island, The Sixth Stay, Selfless, Multiplicity and Replicas.
	Even as far back as Stepford Wife's, the producers of these films were hinting and telling us that human cloning exists.
	Some may think this is far out or made up, but where do you think they get their ideas from?
	According to some, it was the grey aliens who originally gave us the technology to clone humans.
	That Hitler was aided by grey aliens during World War II and held a secret alliance with them.
	It's debated that grey aliens clone themselves into hybrids.
	Simply said, it's necessary for them to do so in light of their dying race.
	Of course, anybody making such claims, like myself, you're labelled as being crazy by society.
	This is a huge problem because human cloning is going on and it's about time people woke up.
	But for as long as the majority of people have their eyes wide shut, the longer it's going to continue.
	We also know...
	The baby girl was referred to as Eve.
	Bear in mind, this was 17 years ago.
	And nowadays, if you have $100,000, a South Korean company called Suat Biotech, which is there, if I've pronounced that right, will clone your dog.
	Barbara Streisand is one of their clients, and she cloned hers.
	There are also other sources who tell us cloning exists.
	An Illuminati wife called Kay Grid, George Green and John Lear all say human cloning exists.
	George Green talks about the human cloning centres and how cloning works.
	He claims also that the Illuminati have been cloning celebrities and presidents for a long time.
	So obviously in my view it's about time we woke up that human cloning does exist.
	I should add that in 2002 Villagers in the south of Russia found 248 fetuses which had been dumped.
	This led to speculation that these fetuses were a product of human cloning because they were all over the age of legal terminations.
	They'd been discovered by a fisherman in a forest in Russia's Ural Mountains.
	Police said the fetuses appeared to have come from three separate hospitals in Yetansesburg, the capital of Sferlox region.
	It was speculated that the foetuses had been used in medical research, but why would they have been dumped as such if that was the case?
	Dr Olga Spirina said, it may sound a bit fantastical, but these foetuses could well be the product of human cloning, despite its universal ban, and that's why they were found like that.
	These weren't human beings, they were half human and half artificial creatures.
	This was a controversial story which shot people all around the world.
	There was also an article on Sky News published in 2009, 22nd of April, in which a Dr. Zavos claims to have cloned a number of human embryos and implanted them into the wombs of four volunteers.
	He went on to say that none had resulted in pregnancy, but the doctor did say that he would produce a child within the next few years.
	And again, remember that was ten years ago.
	Another controversial point is, do human clones have a soul?
	Well, I believe they do have a consciousness, and that can be transferred, apparently.
	But as for a soul, I don't know.
	Duplication cloning, growing a full-sized child or adult in a tank, does exist.
	We already know that replication cloning does, with clonings saying, like I've just said, in 2002 that they had successfully cloned a baby girl.
	Given the technology which exists today, it's very, very likely that cloning full-size humans is...
	The public are always the last to know what scientific advances have been made.
	The question is, what do we do about it?
	Well, first and foremost, I feel, is waking people up to the fact this is actually going on.
	If we're aware of human cloning, at least that's a good start.
	But we really do need to wake up to this fact.
	I'd like to thank you.
	for listening to my presentation, and I hope it's educated some people, especially into the level of corruption that we're facing in our government today.
	Thanks for listening, and thanks to Kerry for giving her a call.
	APPLAUSE APPLAUSE Actually, what I'd like to do is just take five or ten minutes, if you don't mind, and let, if there's anyone to ask questions, because it's quite a stunning presentation.
	Thank you very much.
	And it's so important.
	And if it's true, and there is very good indications that it is, you know, the repercussions of what this means could be really quite obvious.
	There's been lots of discussion in the past that Russia was actually cloning presidents and putting them on an island off the coast of Russia.
	This is an old story, but it seemed to have some credence at the time.
	That was years and years ago, actually.
	Now things might have gotten to this stage.
	So I just wanted to give Laura just a chance to have a couple questions if there's anybody.
	Go ahead.
	Would this have anything to do with a possible repopulation?
	I actually have no idea.
	I don't know.
	I haven't looked into that, to be perfectly honest.
	Continuing on for what Mark was talking about this morning.
	I think I might have missed that bit, so sorry I can't answer your question.
	Anybody else?
	So just quick, thank you for coming forward, Laura.
	I met a lady a few years ago, I got my bus.
	She works at the same bus company I did, and she had her children taken away.
	I won't go into great detail about it, but interestingly, one of the children was taken in by the judge in the court.
	Really?
	It's incredible.
	And did she get the child back?
	No, she's had the same thing.
	In fact, you've raised lots of questions now, so if I see her, I'll ask her, because she was having the same problem as you, that there were things going on and she wasn't allowed to see the children, and the children were supposedly upset with her, and so they didn't want to see her.
	Same strategy, yeah.
	It's horrendous, to be honest.
	It's definitely some sort of agenda.
	Thanks for coming forward.
	Oh, thank you.
	Thanks for your question.
	Anybody else?
	Yeah?
	No, it might be off the wall, but could it in any way have anything to do with your father and who the father was extorting women from?
	Do you think he discovered something or knew people?
	To be honest, I'm discovering stuff every day about my parents and it's only, I've only had to look into, you know, this has forced me to look into their past.
	Which is very covert, but in the first part of your question, yes, I think it has a lot to do with the satanic stuff, but I don't know if it's to do with the extortion, but it's a very good point.
	It's a very good point.
	Yes?
	The time they took the DNA sample, I presume that's when they did the cloning, but wasn't that a few years before?
	No, it was five months before they took the children.
	So they had the time to get the children to that age.
	Exactly, yeah.
	And to this day, I don't know what they required the DNA for, and I kick myself every day for giving them it.
	But they might have taken it at the nursery anyway.
	So, you know, it's unfortunate that I did give them it.
	I mean, what did they require it for?
	I'll never know.
	It does seem odd.
	It would seem quite simple to get a blood sample from any child in any school to do this.
	Probably more of it.
	Pardon?
	Probably more of it.
	Well, there's a lot going on in schools that we don't know about.
	Exactly.
	People coming and going with all sorts of things.
	Yeah.
	In the mainstream.
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	I'm just thinking, would you be wary about going to these DNA companies that are offering to have a look at your family background?
	Yeah, if that would help me at all, get an insight into what's happened.
	But sort of people are doing it for fun, aren't they?
	They're saying, oh, I found out my family background.
	Perhaps we should be very wary about doing things like that.
	I've never thought of it before.
	Yeah, you've got to be careful.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yes.
	I don't know if this is relevant.
	I had a channelling session with someone once and I asked, did they track genetics from people's bloodlines all over the world?
	Because I know that when babies are born, they take a heel-prick chest.
	They try and tell you it's to assess for an incredibly rare disease.
	Vitamin K or something.
	And I asked during this session, do they keep the DNA on record from those samples?
	They do.
	And the answer was yes.
	Yeah, they do.
	That's right.
	I found out it's true.
	They don't come into your hospital.
	Laura, the incident at the nursery where your friend's daughter saw the reptilians, and your daughter going up, was that before the pandemic?
	Let me just put another thing in here because although we've got the my main field of research is ufology, UFOs etc now we're very familiar in Our research with aliens replicating humans, in fact.
	There's a lot of abductees and people who experience doppelgangers of themselves.
	That has happened many times.
	And in the human abduction syndrome, where alien hybrid children are created.
	Now, it's also probably important to bear in mind that the Police who call on you may not have been human themselves.
	I never thought that.
	Some people here may be familiar with what we call bogus social worker phenomena in the 70s or 80s, where children were inspected by strange people who would turn up and claim to be from social services, etc.
	sometimes they were given access to children, and then they would be rumbled, or they'd make an excuse or something would happen, and they would quickly disappear.
	Yeah, I've heard of that, actually.
	The clothing material could be gained in that respect, or at the nursery by a man.
	You have got a really good point.
	The police were maybe not, you know, who they said they were.
	So, yeah, they didn't ever come back, so it's hard to establish, really.
	Yes?
	Yeah, I'm wondering, in the 1970s, that there's something in which there's a market within the iron which is very important.
	So for example, colour-blining was a very big thing in the 1970s.
	So I'm thinking that it might be useful to actually Yeah, that's interesting.
	I'll talk to you after then about that.
	Yes?
	Very briefly, it's difficult to be in touch with yourself through the miles.
	I've done quite a lot of dousing in the past and find out the number of clones.
	It's enormous, if you're saying.
	And I've got quite a lot of things to check from what you've been saying.
	I'd like to come back to you.
	That would be helpful.
	With concomformation.
	Hilary Clinton was 36 hours in the past.
	I have heard that actually, yes.
	So is that okay?
	Yes, absolutely, thanks.
	Yes, yes, just a quick thought really, but I tend to think, however they came into being, any clones, if they do have consciousness and they are interacting with other human beings, then they certainly would have a soul.
	I would argue that they've not, because they're not made from a natural source, if you like.
	Do you know, well that's a matter of opinion I guess.
	Yes.
	Just a comment really, but have you seen the The glitches of celebrities is the most creepiest thing ever possible.
	Isn't it just?
	Where people, TV presenters and things like that are just kind of like stop and they pause.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know what's creepy, either that or the fact that everyone around them doesn't notice.
	I know.
	Bizarre.
	Bizarre.
	It is.
	Very much.
	Actually, I'll just add to that.
	Don't forget, all of our media, they're all actors.
	Yeah.
	Remember that.
	I just wanted to add to the gentleman over there.
	In the UFO research that we've done, we're also aware of what we call soul transfer technology, where any experiences have witnessed souls being transferred and cloned bodies of themselves or of people.
	So it does seem that a clone does not Does that move the previous person without the soul?
	Yeah, the previous, we got the body container, which would then not be used or would then fall into disuse because obviously the soul is transferred to the new container.
	So the other one would be either destroyed or died.
	Even the broadcast is solid.
	Yes, sorry.
	Firstly, as a mother, I'm really sorry to say that.
	Ah, thanks.
	The second thing is, you've clearly tapped into something that's No, because they're all so scared.
	There are people that know what's going on here.
	There's other people that have been affected by this, like the women in Portugal.
	And nobody's willing to come forward.
	They're all terrified.
	But I've lost the most important thing that I've ever had.
	You know, my kids.
	So what have I got to lose, really?
	I've got nothing to lose, and I'm doing it for them.
	And to stop it happening again, hopefully.
	People have come forward in the past, but they've been suppressed.
	Quiet.
	I actually want to ask you a couple questions.
	So, one thing, you know, that the eyes have everything to do with the bloodline.
	And so if the eyes change, it's possible the bloodline changes.
	It's also said that if you do get a takeover of a body, then you can have an eye change.
	But I understand that there are some sort of marked differences to make you think that what you were given were clones and that your actual daughters are still alive and they're somewhere else, right?
	Tongue ties disappeared and their daughter is now double-jointed and she wasn't before and her tongue tie.
	They're gone.
	Physical changes that are more marked.
	But what I was wondering also was having to do with the father.
	Now, so your father was basically like a pedophile kind of person?
	Well, my dad was in a satanic sect, but their father was a pedophile.
	They're the children's, the original children's father.
	And it was, was it the clones?
	Or was it your original?
	It was your original children that were complaining.
	So what I was wondering is that just in terms of whether you thought that their father was actually their father, did you have things like abduction or any kind of missing time or things where you thought perhaps during pregnancy or before pregnancy and so on?
	Because there could be, it sounds as though there was some kind of entry point through not only your parents, My second daughter, because when I fell pregnant with my second daughter, and I found out on my 38th birthday I was pregnant with her, she's got a different father to my other daughter.
	So I do have three children to three separate fathers.
	But in saying that, I don't know if you're, you know, you have got a point, but I don't know if there's any missing time periods or that, but I was extremely shocked to find out I was pregnant, especially after being told I had less than 1% chance of ever falling pregnant.
	And then obviously within a two-year period, I've got two kids back-to-back, aged 38 to 40. It's not exactly the height of your fertility.
	Do you know what I mean?
	So I thought you had two daughters and one boy?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And the boy is, where is he?
	He's 20. He's an infant.
	Okay, so he's still with you?
	Yeah, he's an adult now.
	Okay.
	So, you know, it's just a really stunning story.
	And now I'm just curious, how old are the little girls now?
	Are you able to say?
	Six and four.
	Okay, so they can't really know that you might view them as clones or anything like that?
	I've never shared any of my views with them like that.
	But that's what the social worker is saying.
	The whole lot of seeing the reins are saying.
	Since she's done the videos or miles, she's putting the girls at risk, so they've stopped all contact.
	Yeah, they stopped all contact and said that I had shared my views with my children, which I would never do.
	I would never, ever do that.
	Right.
	But yeah, that's...
	Well, I mean, I am unorthodox, I suppose, but I wouldn't necessarily think that was, you know, something wrong with that.
	I mean, maybe not when they're four, obviously, but as they got older in the society, can you imagine even six years from now where we're gonna be?
	'Cause we've got the 5G coming in and AI, and you know, we're...
	Young people are not going to be kept in the dark the way they have in the past.
	I can tell you that.
	So, yeah, very, very interesting.
	Thank you so much.

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