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June 10, 2025 - Project Camelot
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DARREN BROWN AA21
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Okay, guys, my name is Darren Brown.
Unfortunately, I'm not the Darren Brown that reads minds, okay?
So don't worry about that.
But I'm 51 young, okay?
So I'm 51 years.
And I sort of almost had to go into this world when I was younger.
When I was quite young, round about six or seven, I used to see a lot of things, entities, stuff like that.
And it's always been with me ever since, really.
So what you probably see is, well, mind you, most of you out here are actually open-minded.
So you're probably on the same wavelength as me anyway.
But I would say normally every other week to two weeks something happens unusual to other people.
So yeah, so basically guys, I just want to say a big thank you very much for allowing me to actually be able to tell you.
It's the first time I've actually been here, so this is new to me.
And, you know, it's a big thank you anyway for all the guys and everyone that's actually done all the hard work to make this available, especially over the COVID.
So should we put our hands together and clap all the guys out there?
Because they've done a great job, especially as it was supposed to be Saturday and Sunday, and then it got moved to Thursday and Friday.
So well done to you as well for actually making it to the Thursday and Friday.
Okay, Dean, so now we've got over that.
You'll see up here, which is Free Counties Paranormal Research Society.
This is me and my brother.
We had decided to run this to help people because there's a lot of people out there which had a lot of problems.
And what we've done basically is So everything we did, we did completely free.
We would not charge.
Now the reason why we did that is it gives us more credibility.
It makes us look like you're not doing it just to make money or to scam someone.
Because there's so many scammers out there, you've just got to be really careful about that, okay?
And we covered hearts, beds, bucks.
We went as far as Ken.
All over the place.
You know, we've been to a lot of places, even where most haughty had been, and they seem to have left almost like a stale scent wherever they went.
It was almost as if we're not interested, we don't want haughty people, you know, that want to do that.
But when they saw what we were about, they would actually let us in.
And Morecambe Winter Gardens was really interesting, really interesting, because when we did that,
and people that are sensitive, if they give off a higher vibration, they're going to be able to pick up that energy, okay?
And that's what I wanted to talk to you about.
So there's two types of a ghost, okay?
There's what you normally see as a ghost, okay?
A lot of people will say, well, there's no such thing as a ghost.
All right.
Well, if you look to the galaxy, or if we look to the universe, To us, they're called stars.
Because the star is almost like a light that's coming through, but it's dead.
So it almost shows you that when you get people saying, oh, there's no such thing as ghosts, there's no such thing as that, it's already there.
We're already seeing it.
And it takes sometimes the universe or the galaxy for us to actually see that.
So the second part of an intelligence is called a spirit.
Now, spirits are almost different because it's an energy.
It's an energy form.
Now, it could be that he's classed, it could be that he's sort of like, it could be an alien, all right?
It could be an alien being, or it could be someone that's passed and just wants to give communication to you.
So there's loads of different ways, or it could even be that there is a phenomena.
On Earth, as we see, whether it's in third dimension, fifth dimension, or even other dimensions, that we just don't tap into.
And every now and then, they come here, and then they go.
And that simple, typical example is that there's matter.
And we have matter in the world, right?
And we have matter that's in space.
And they have, like, dark matter.
And dark matter will fade in and fade out, and they don't actually know where it goes.
And it's possible that that could almost be the fabric of space, which could be on Earth, which could be giving you that.
So I'm just trying to give you a bit of something to think about.
Okay, guys?
Okay, then.
So now I've done my introduction.
If there's any eccentric millionaires out there that want me and Mark to go and do a ghost hunt, I obviously would be obliged, okay?
Right, so the next thing I want to talk to you guys about is I've So the reason why I wrote this down is because in my head, I've got a lot to process, and I have a lot of things that have happened to me.
And what I wanted to do is I wanted to give you the opportunity of almost...
Now, there's a typical good one.
I'm a plumbing and heating engineer by trade, and I had one of my customers ring me up about 7 o 'clock, and she says, "Oh, Darren, I've got a leak." I said, "Okay, then, where is it?
Well, it's on the radiator." "Oh, okay, then, no problem.
I'll be there.
It's in Chichester." Okay?
So that's two hours away.
So I drive all the way there, and I get to this old, It's an old manor.
There's no one there.
And she left the key underneath the map.
I got the key on the map.
I came in.
The floor was flooded.
I thought, oh, my God, it's going to be a nightmare.
So I went running up the stairs, went into a bedroom.
All of a sudden, Sage just dropped me, and I was on the floor.
I haven't got time for this.
I've got a leak downstairs, I've got to sort out, and I need to get to the access to the water main, because the water main's in the cupboard.
So this thing just lifted off.
And luckily, otherwise I'm never going to get the job done.
But this is the sort of thing that happens to me, okay, guys?
So it's crazy.
It can be really crazy.
So, you know, as I said to you before, what you might see as really paranormal Yes, so that was quite interesting.
I do get sometimes as well overwhelming energy and I have to be really careful.
If I go to like a church or I go somewhere where there's like ley lines, if I'm there for a while, it's almost like you get hyped up with energy.
I don't know if anyone else gets that.
Has anyone had that?
And then you get to a point where you go home, and your ears are buzzing, and you're sitting to watch TV, and all of a sudden the room just disappears.
The room's gone.
And then I see a portal of energy, and I think, the hell's that?
And I just think, what's going on?
It's just mad.
And then the next minute, the room comes back again, and you think, oh, blow that, I can't cope with that, so I just go to bed.
I know we go to bed and wake up the next morning, and it settles the energy down again.
But I've had a few experiences like that.
I've also had an experience of Matrix as well.
Now, this is going to sound a bit cliche with sort of Matrix, and you see, like, the screen coming down with numbers.
But I've actually done that when I was playing snooker with a mate, and I was in the room, and I was concentrating so hard to try and pop the ball, and then all of a sudden the whole room just went green.
And all I could see was these lines coming down.
And then that was it.
And my mate just said, "Are you alright?" And I said, "Why?" He said, "You've just been there for five, six seconds, just stuck." And I realised I'd glitched.
And you know when you get some people that actually glitch, you know, and they don't even realise.
You can see it on interviews where someone will be talking and the next minute they're just...
So it's crazy.
And these things happen.
They're around us all the time.
And it's almost like we've got a mechanism inside us which almost protects us because you get to a point where you're actually talking and then all of a sudden something happens.
You just think, oh, why did that happen?
Oh, I don't know.
Just forget about it.
And then it just disappears.
So, yeah, there's been quite a few things that have happened.
A good one, actually, which I'll tell you about, was when we went to Tenerife.
And this is quite fascinating.
OK?
What basically happened was in Tenerife, the first thing happened is when we went in there with the suitcases, we had a tile explode in the toilet.
It just bang!
And I thought, bloody hell, what's that?
And this tile just exploded.
And it sort of cracked the toilet seat.
So I thought, we're in a volcanic area.
It could be movement under the ground.
It could be anything, you know?
It could be some form of movement.
So me trying to be like a scientist, I'm thinking, yeah, okay, I can probably come up with something like that.
And then that night we went to bed, and I remember waking up about 2 o 'clock in the morning, and there was, like, webs.
I could see webs, and I thought, ooh, this is weird.
And then I saw these spiders.
With six legs, just going backwards and forwards, like this.
They were like silver.
And there was like a slug, which was about that big.
And it was silver, almost like robotic.
And the fan that was spinning round was actually reflecting on this thing.
So you know that it's real.
You know, it's not like a dream, or it could be.
if he was, it's a really good dream.
And then when I looked around, 18 years old, a spirit, just sitting there.
And I thought, well, hello, what are you doing there, sort of thing.
So she just was sitting there, and next thing, Sam started talking Spanish.
And I thought, what's going on?
And I thought, I haven't got a clue what he's talking about.
And I thought to myself, if only I'd recorded it on my iPhone.
But you don't think about things like that, because you're finding it hard to process things that are actually going on.
So it was really quite strange.
That was quite strange.
And it's been one of the first times that I actually come across looking at a spider with six legs.
But it was definitely a spider, because it was just moving backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards.
And from that day, I just cannot explain it.
And I'm sure that in your life, you're going to come across things that you probably ain't going to explain as well.
So, yeah, so that's something that I just wanted to talk to you about as well.
Has anyone got any questions at the moment?
I think what was happening is the girl that was sitting at the table was trying to trance through my son to say something because my actual youngest son is quite psychic.
He's quite open.
And we do have a lot of weird and wonderful things that we've experienced.
One of them being, I can tell you about actually, I haven't even got this on here, okay?
And this was the, it was two things actually.
The first one was that my son and both sons were in the room, they couldn't sleep.
And I went upstairs and I said, what's wrong?
And as I walked in the room, I could see like, it was like a lightning beam.
Right?
I know you might think I'm raving mad, but this is exactly what it looked like.
it looked like a lightning beam.
And the kids were like, "Oh, there's something..." It was icy cold.
And I thought, you've got to go.
You can't stay here, you know?
So what I've done is I opened my eye.
Bear in mind I'm not a trained exorcist, OK?
And I'm not in any way, as far as I know, know how to actually outboard a spirit from an area.
So I stood like this and I closed my eyes and I invited this spirit, what this thing was, to go through me and then go up.
Now I suffer from really bad back pains.
I've damaged my back through being a plumbing Ian engineer.
And when this thing went in, The whole body just heated up.
And then I just felt this warmth.
And then it shot up through me.
And it just went.
And the whole room just went completely warm.
Completely warm.
And you knew it was gone.
I thought, right, now kids get a bed.
Go to sleep.
Kids being kids, you've got to do that.
So, yeah, and that was one of those things.
And another one we had is my daughter's quite psychic as well, which I can't talk about, really, because she's in the military and I don't want to cause problems with her.
But with my youngest son, he had a point where my daughter woke up because little Sam was crying, and Kirsty, she's about 19 or 20 years old, and the funny thing is, while all the shouting and screaming was going on, Me and Chrissie couldn't wake up.
We were in bed and we just couldn't wake up.
And this, it was almost like, do you know when you blow a bubble and you get like a bubble of energy and it glistens?
It was like that.
And what Stan was doing was he was crying and there was a bubble, so Kirstie told me.
So Kirstie went in there and she just belted it and it exploded and it was like loads of crystal energy.
And it was just mad.
It was a point of where all hell broke loose and we didn't know it until the next morning because it was just crazy.
Yeah, so, you know, that was just something I wanted, you know, to share with you, really.
Yeah, so, as I said to you before, I've got many stories, okay?
So what I'll probably end up doing is I'll have all this written out and then I probably won't use any of it because there's other stories that are coming through.
And it's almost as if you've been told to say that.
It's like, hey, you've got to let them know about this, and you've got to let them know about that.
And another time was when we were on holiday and we were in Hastings.
And we were staying in a caravan and there was quite a few things that happened there.
I mean, quitting my wife, she saw almost like a caravan While she was doing the washing up, she turned around and there was something there.
But it wasn't up to her level.
It was almost a little bit lower.
Because if you think about it, a caravan is higher up.
So that made a lot of, you know, things that was interesting.
And if you don't think that's more interesting, the next day we woke up and Kirsty, this was going back years and years ago, Kirsty was in a pushchair.
And the pushchair, someone was wheeling backwards and forwards like this.
And there's nothing there.
It's just crazy.
And then what we also had is that evening, I had something which was like a round ball of energy, and it had like tentacles coming out of it.
And my guide was just screaming at me, just saying, just leave it alone, just ignore it.
You don't want to get involved with it.
It's an energy you're not supposed to be with.
That was what I was getting.
It was just stay calm, just ignore it.
And I saw this sort of like circle with tentacles and it was just be wary.
All I kept getting was be wary.
You've got to be wary of this because it was just something I didn't want to, you know, worry about.
So what I decided to do was exactly what a voice in my head was telling me.
I just pulled the covers up and I went to sleep.
And the next morning, I didn't have any problems, hopefully.
So, yeah, so welcome to my world.
Yes.
Yeah, so I've experienced a lot of things in my life.
One of my good ones, okay, was I actually had my first astro projection, which was quite bizarre.
I'll tell you why it was bizarre, because I was in bed and...
It was at the bottom of the bed.
And I thought, what the hell's that?
And then this thing just jumped into my body.
And my body lifted up.
And I remember seeing an outline of me with a red outline all around my body.
And then I saw my house.
Then I saw the village.
Then I saw the district.
Then I saw England.
Then I saw Earth.
And then I was gone.
And I was just like, it was the most amazing feeling in the world.
Because there was a feeling of weightlessness, of flying.
And I only experienced this when I was younger, where I used to think about when I was at school.
And I remember flying around in the gym, and I'd see a pair of red shorts that were on the gym.
And then the next morning, I'd go into the gym, and I'd see the red shorts.
So I'd obviously been flying around in the gym, but why would I choose a gym at school?
It's crazy.
But going back to that, I remember that when I was in, like, literally, I felt like I was in space, and there was amazing colours.
It was just amazing.
And I was just going and going and going, and I was going further and further.
And I thought, hang on a minute, I'm not supposed to be here.
So I thought, I need to get back.
And as soon as I said that, it was like I just...
Because it was like, as I come all the way back, I went straight into my body and it jolted the bed.
And this thing just lifted off and just went through the door.
And I woke you up, didn't I?
And she thought, what the hell are you doing?
It's like two in the morning, I've got to get up with the kids.
And there's me, bag of nerves, thinking what the hell has just happened.
But it was an amazing experience.
But what that experience did is it took away my fear of death.
And what I don't want to do is I don't want to take away any of your religions.
All I'm doing is explaining to you what's happened to me.
Whether you choose or not to believe me, it doesn't matter.
Because to me, it happened, and I find it very real.
Yeah, so that was that really, guys.
Okay, what else are we going to talk about?
As I said to you before, I've got so many things I can talk to you about.
Yeah, so we've had the toilet exploding.
It's crazy, isn't it?
I should write a book, really.
It's one of those things I should think about.
Okay, guys, I'm going to talk to you about something that's probably on another wavelength from the first caller.
Because what I've got here is probably a bit for everyone.
Now, what happened is me and Chrissie, my wife, we went clubbing.
We were in Dunstable, going night clubbing.
And we came, I think it was about one o 'clock, we came out of the nightclub.
And it takes us roughly 45 minutes to an hour to get home.
And I remember that when we were on this road, we saw what appeared to be a triangle.
And this triangle, it was literally like a cloud, but sharp edges.
And it had a red circle.
And I thought, what the hell's that?
And I'm just driving.
And then I just, we just thought nothing of it.
And then I remember actually driving up to Gaybridge, where we were staying, and we parked up, and we walked in, and it was 4.30 in the morning.
So we thought, that's strange.
Where's an hour gone?
It only takes me 45 minutes.
I've lost an hour and 15 minutes of time.
And I can't explain that.
And I tried.
I tried to dig into that.
I got a hypnosis to do a regression on me.
My brother, Mark, he was with him as well because he wanted to make sure everything was going okay.
He put me into a hypnosis state and he started to look into it and he said, okay then Darren, he says, can you see anything?
And apparently, because I can't remember because I was hypnotized, but he was saying, oh well, you know, something about that there was a light and you could have been on a...
And then, all of a sudden, I got this really bad pain in my head.
And it got to a point where it was like, almost like a migraine.
And I thought, oh, I can't.
I can't talk about this anymore.
And it would just really, really, really hurt.
And the computer that they were recording, it blew the hard drive.
The hard drive broke.
So it killed this 1,700 quid computer.
Just through us trying to find out if anything happened to me through a regression.
And when I come out of it, my mate said, you just broke my computer.
I said, well, I didn't ask you to record me.
But that's what happened.
So, you know, it's crazy.
And, yeah, I've had a few things with the UFO side of it.
When I was about 11 years old, I lived in the Harts area.
I had my next-door neighbour that used to look after me why my actual mum and dad used to go and work.
And I remember that what I'd done, basically, is I went into the woods, which you could then.
You can't now.
You wouldn't want kids in the woods on their own.
And I went to a digger's field.
And as I went into the digger's field, I saw a UFO.
And it was grey.
And it had a red outline.
And it was round.
Cliché, I know.
You're going to think it's going to be a saucepan.
It was a round shape of a UFO.
And I got to myself, no, I'm not going to go anywhere near that.
And I was scared because I was 11 and it was something that's not supposed to be there.
So I ran all the way home.
So I ran back to house and I went next door to Ivor.
He said, are you all right?
And I said, no.
I said, I've just seen a UFO in the Dickensfield.
He said, I don't know you.
He said, as long as you stay away from them, you'll be fine.
So I thought, okay then.
So, perhaps he knew something that I didn't, you know?
And, yeah, that was interesting.
Now, what I haven't told you about, which I'm going to be careful, because I don't want to go too much into my daughter, all right?
But I will tell you that we moved into her house, and we'd literally just been there the first day, and my daughter was getting bored, because we were carrying boxes backwards and forwards.
And I said, here, I have some sweets.
Go up, shop, and get some sweets.
She went off and she'd come back crying her eyes out.
And I said, what's the matter?
She said, something's just hit me on the head.
I said, right, come on in.
We'll go and find out who it is.
And she said, Daddy was someone that was cloaked and was hovering above me and he knocked me to the floor.
So I thought, oh no, how am I going to deal with that?
Because your dad, you're a dad.
You're supposed to be able to look after your offspring.
You're supposed to be able to look after and try and help people that are in trouble.
So what I've done is I looked into how I could develop my own psychic and protection by doing that.
So luckily there was a crystal shop and I went into the crystal shop and there was Angela there and she said, oh yeah, she says, Neville does a special sort of like course and what we'll do is we'll get you enrolled on that and you'll be fine.
I thought, oh okay, we'll give it a whirl then.
So what I've done then is I went on to this course and it was really interesting, really interesting because it opened me up.
But the problem is there's a warning sign.
When you open yourself up, because you're doing something for the light, you're doing something for good, there's always going to be something dark that's going to try and bring you down.
And no one tells you that.
You could be a soldier of light.
But there's going to be someone that's going to come after you.
Or someone's going to look into and say, OK, then, we've got to worry about you.
And that brings me to another story, OK?
When I had a really interesting encounter where it was about 9 o 'clock at night and the door went and there was this woman, she's about 27 years old, and she had big eyes.
That's all I remember, just seeing her eyes, and a big mouth.
But she didn't have blonde hair, okay?
She had dark hair.
And she was tall, okay?
And I said to her, I said, oh, you all right?
She said, no, my phone's packed up.
She says, I need someone to charge my phone because I need to get to a place.
So I said, okay, then.
I said, whereabouts do you want to go?
She said, oh, it doesn't matter.
She said, I just need to charge the phone.
Plug the charge in, and my guide was absolutely screaming at me, do not let her in.
Under any circumstances, do not let her in.
And me being me, don't say silly, I'll let her in.
When I let her over, and this was interesting about the speaker, the last speaker, when he said about the threshold, when she stepped over it, it was almost as if something died in me, as if, what have you done?
I got that horrible feeling.
And I thought, no, I can't leave her.
She's 27. She's stuck.
She's got a problem with the phone.
And then when I was chatting to her, and we were charging the phone up, she said, oh, yes, I need to go to 38 Wantage Close.
I thought, oh, okay then.
I thought, all right then.
And then, who's that?
Oh, it's a schoolteacher.
Oh, okay then.
All right then.
I thought, that's interesting.
And then she said, oh, it's okay.
I've done what I need to do now.
I thought, oh, all right then.
So she gave me my phone, and then she went.
And I thought, God, that was weird.
It was really weird.
The next morning, I got a phone call, and there was a woman at number 38, one she closed, that rang me up.
And she says, oh, you're a plumber.
Yeah, can you come around and service the boiler?
Yeah, sure, no problem.
So I went around there the next day, and I said, oh, I said, did you ever visit her last night?
She said, what do you mean?
I said, well, we had someone who's 27 years old that said they were actually going to the very house that I'm now doing the service of.
Never saw anyone.
Never had anyone round.
And I thought that is crazy.
And it's almost as if these visitations can happen in the past and future.
And it's just you've got no control over it whatsoever.
So it's really, really strange.
As I was going back to where I was doing my training and etc, there was one part of training which they asked me to do.
I was a plumbing engineering, I'm always running around doing stuff.
And Neville said, oh, when you go and do your next training, he says, find a rose.
He says, put some intention into the rose, wrap it up in a bit of paper, and then we'll put it in a bowl.
And then no one will know what rose is or anything like that.
You know, it's like a bud or a petal.
And then we're all sitting around and I picked up something and I said, oh, we're trying to read into the energy of this thing.
And this woman, about 80 years old, she says, oh, she says, I'm picking up on this thing.
She says, it's really strange.
Someone running around saying about an oil boiler I must do tomorrow.
A gas boiler, I must do this.
And then all of a sudden, it was picking up on me, picking up on me, where I was rushing around all over the place.
So you could imagine that if there's people or energies that can withdraw that from you and read that from you, and I've just showed you how and demonstrated how that can happen by literally one rosebud, and it's almost got a program of what you did in the last couple of minutes.
That's strange, isn't it, guys?
And that's quite magical in some ways as well.
If you think about it in the 17th century, anything like that, you would have been, well, you know what probably would have happened.
Okay, guys.
I'm going to do some questions and answers.
So, is there any people there that want to talk?
Yep.
Sorry, no, my name's Darren Brown.
Yes.
Yeah, well in Yeah, he's a great guy.
And he taught me a lot of things, actually.
He taught me how to protect yourself from certain entities, spirits, by praying to cloak around you, you know, and then shutting down your chakras.
Because that's half the problem.
It's that you could be an open person.
Yeah, that's why I hate it.
If I go shopping, Chris was always moaning at me because I don't like going shopping.
But I go shopping and the energy of people just completely drains me.
I just felt absolutely exhausted.
It's just crazy.
Yeah, but yeah, it's definitely worth it.
If you want to do that, of course.
yeah Yeah.
Oh, wow!
Me and my brother, we've done a lot of things and we've done a lot of investigations.
We've done investigations in schools where we've had to sign a disclaimer because if the mums and dads knew there was things going on in schools, they're going to take all the kids out.
And it was the kids that actually picked up that they saw a woman walking along the roof in one of the schools and she just disappeared.
So it was quite interesting and we were lucky enough to go in there and do an investigation.
And unfortunately, I worked there as well.
And when I worked at this particular school, I remember I went up a ladder and they pulled the ladder away.
And I come flying down and hit my knee on the radiator.
Yeah, so you've got to be careful because these things can catch you out.
When you do investigations, do you also threat on the star-spirit and help it...
Absolutely.
The first thing we do is don't mock, okay?
And warn anyone that if you ask for something, you might not get it now.
You'll get it in about five or six weeks' time.
Because when they're in a different dimension, it's almost like they can't work out the time.
So again, it could be spirit, it could be an energy, and it could be an alien.
You just don't know.
What sort of techniques do you use to have it move on?
One of the techniques that I've done is Another one which I've done, where I use St. Michael.
So I use the power of St. Michael, which is an angel.
And I had to do that in a house where there was a 15-year-old that was being influenced by a spirit.
And she would not allow us.
We were there to do a visual, but she said, you're not going in my room, you're not going in my room.
I said, it's okay, we don't want to go in your room, but I just got, she's been influenced, she's been influenced.
So what I'd done is I went to the guy that owned the place, and I said, is there any chance we can do a blessing in the room?
He said, yeah, absolutely.
So as soon as we went in there, there was a couple of books started flying around all over the place, so I thought, ah, there's definitely something here.
So what we'd done eventually was we thought we'll put the camera, got a camera, and we shut the door.
And then this when the funds died, basically, because we had two cameras, and I could see this mass of energy in the middle of the bed that was spinning round.
And it was about 12:30, quarter to one in the morning, and this energy was getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
And I thought to myself, oh no, you can't stay here.
And as I said that, this thing just jumped off the bed, went straight into me, and I wasn't ready for it, because I made a schoolboy error.
I forgot to put up my own protection.
And this thing just jumped on me, and I've got, oh God, I was like this, shaking.
And my guide was just saying, look, don't panic, you'll be fine, you've just got to do this, you've got to do that.
And I've tried to keep myself calm, and then I thought, okay then.
I've got to start drawing a sword.
And I drew a sword from St Michael.
And I drew the sword around the whole of the room.
And I just said to him, right, I said, I'm banishing you from this room.
I said, you can go in the garden, go in the shed, no problem.
I said, but you're not allowed in this room anymore.
And when I said that, Kirsty was babysitting.
That's my daughter.
She's texting mad like this, because we didn't know, because we have all our phones in one area.
And she's texting and saying, Dad, Dad, there's this scarf that's spinning around in the lounge.
And we didn't know any of this, you know.
And it was crazy.
It was absolutely crazy.
And then we had an Oculus.
I don't know if anyone knows what an Oculus is, but it's basically, it's a text computer, basically.
It's got, say, 150,000 words in it.
And it basically speaks out words.
And we gave this downstairs in the kitchen.
There was someone writing it down.
And they got witch.
Witch coming up all the time.
And I realised that I'd stumped on something I should have done.
I had a witch of energy.
And this energy was really horrible.
And I was in trouble.
Because I thought, what the hell have you done?
I've actually risked my own soul, my own body.
Just to try and help someone else, you should think to yourself, you've got to look after yourself first before you start playing around with that.
So what I've done is we sorted all that out, and I said to Oliver the next day, I said, Oliver, is it all right now?
And he says, yeah, it's great.
He says, but, you know, if I'm in the shed, things are sometimes moving around a bit.
He said, you don't know what that is?
I said, oh no, I've got no idea what that was.
So that's it, guys.
So we just need to talk some more questions.
Yep?
Do you make a distinction between what you see as extraterrestrial energy versus spirit energy?
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, I could talk so much.
I've got so much.
I mean, I've had so many things that have happened to me where I've actually been in bed and I felt like aliens have been working on my head in the wall.
And it's almost as if there's no wall there.
And I've had certain things.
I mean, there's one thing that's happened to me which I just still from this day can't understand.
And maybe you might be able to answer it.
And that's where I remember waking up and almost what we see now, it's almost like an iPad where you can put your finger out and you can see your finger and you can see a ripple of the energy.
And there was loads and loads of hieroglyphics.
And I haven't got a clue what any of them mean.
And I just think, well, if you're showing me something or I'm supposed to see something, how can you work it out?
Because there's just no way of knowing.
You know, and sometimes it can be frustrating because you see things like that, you know there's an energy present, but you can't actually sort of connect to it.
You what, sorry?
Oh, no, no, no, it's mad.
But it was like gold.
It was really weird.
I'm putting my hand out like this and pushing there and you could see almost the fabric of moving.
It was really strange.
Is there anyone else that wants any more questions?
What do you think the purpose of the infiltrating lady was?
What was her mission?
That's a good question.
I think the problem is this is a 15 year old.
Which had opened herself up.
Because she'd been watching most audits and everything else like that, she thought it'd be really cool to do a Ouija board.
So she created a portal in her own bedroom, which we closed.
And that's basically what the problem was.
It's because where she...
I mean, that didn't transpire until we...
And she'd been open and she'd been, oh, it'd be so great to see a ghost.
And then it's like she's sitting there thinking, oh, it'd be so good, it'd be so awesome.
And you think to yourself, you don't realise what you've just done.
It's just like leaving a door open in London and hope a good person walks through or a bad person walks through.
And that's how you've got to be careful with angel cards as well.
People will use angel cards because on the symbol it's angelic.
But you still create a portal.
In your mind, you know, intention of mind can create portals as well.
And that's why children are very good at moving things.
You know, children have almost got such an open mind that they have the ability of seeing things that perhaps we don't or some of us do when we open ourselves up.
I'll tell you another good one, actually, which I had.
I was working in an old house, and this house had castle walls, and it was Kempston House.
You might know it.
And I was working there, and I remember going upstairs, and the woman said to me, she said, oh, yes, she said, I need some new valves on here, new valves on there, and I thought, oh, okay, no worries.
Thanks very much.
And then she went off, and then I'm sort of looking around, Oh, I forgot to ask her where the water main is.
And I said, oh, excuse me, excuse me, and I'm walking down the stairs, and I said, excuse me, excuse me, and then she just disappeared.
I realised she wasn't the owner.
She wasn't the owner at all.
And I've had some crazy ones like that.
I had one when I was working in Ibstone, and this was a classic.
I got there about...
I said don't worry I said I'll sort it out and in the basement the pump had gone so I thought okay I got to sort the pump out so I went running up the stairs went up into the loft jumped up into the loft tied off the ball valve jumped back downstairs as I was coming down the stairs there was this guy this guy he was quite short And it's Sally Ann's.
It was 1920s.
And he was just laughing at me.
And I thought, what are you laughing at me for?
You know, it's really weird.
And I opened the door and he just disappeared.
Just completely disappeared.
And he had a long, you know one of these long cigarettes?
With the smoke coming off.
And he was just laughing.
As soon as I opened the door, he just completely disappeared.
And it's just crazy.
It's absolutely crazy.
Yeah, I just wondered if you have used any of these experiences to go into yourself to track who you have been, because I think all lifetimes are current, and then they're back there and now you're here.
I've had a couple of regressions that have happened while I've been sleeping and stuff like that and one of them is that I remember being on a horse.
And I remember I'd been shot in an arrow in my leg.
And sometimes I wake up and I get real bad pains in my leg.
Also, I had an ambition where I must get a tattoo of a dragon.
Which was really weird.
So I had to get a tattoo of a dragon.
And it was just almost like that was something I needed to help me with protection.
So it's weird, isn't it, that you create a symbol which, you know, you want to use as a protection.
I think I was more referring to because as soon as you started, before you opened your map, I found myself really, really looking at you and I've been doing it all the time and I've kind of like at least four different very powerful readings of who you are and not just this particular line.
Yeah, that's really interesting actually.
But also from, you know, kind of a Latin, it's like heating and water, the liquid mediums, which is like where you can receive the pickups up.
But I feel that all these experiences of you have, are not just merely random, they're all there.
So you can have, could you get involved with them, you've got a family, you've got a job, and you're relating like an ordinary person.
But actually, you know, you're not just like a random person.
Yeah.
Because I get a bit of a breathing all the time and I've been staring quickly because I keep Yes, interesting.
Thank you.
Thanks for that.
Free reading.
Okay, guys, that's it.
Any more questions?
Yep.
When you saw the bee in front of you, and you talked about trying to earn the odds, I don't mean the one that made me feel horrible, but the first one that went up and got to see, and you said you had a bad back page, but you didn't say whether It took all my pains away.
Yeah, it was really weird.
It's almost like that energy that's in you and it was such a warmth that I didn't have any pain at all.
And there's a couple of times, it's like once when I was changing the cylinder and I was working and then all of a sudden I went blind.
I just had like this silver energy around me.
And I couldn't move.
And I don't know how long I was there because the woman had gone out.
And I remember just thinking, oh my god, I've gone blind.
And then I just didn't know what happened.
And then I sort of come back and I'm in the same spot.
And I thought, what the hell is going on?
And that was something else that happened as well.
So, yeah, I've had quite a few weird things, really.
Which, to you guys, you probably think, yes, finally, someone that's like me.
You say it then.
Okay, cool.
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