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June 10, 2025 - Project Camelot
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BEN EMLYN JONES
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, good evening.
Good evening, Watford.
Good evening, UFO Academy.
Thanks all of you for coming.
Thank you for being here.
Yeah, it's really great.
We've been locked up for 18 months, haven't we?
Doing Zoom calls and Skype calls, which are, they're all very well, but it's not quite the same, is it?
It's not quite the same as getting out here and meeting each other.
Yeah, I've really missed being in the same room as other people, and it's really, really fantastic.
This is the second conference I've been to since we were three, and it's been a wonderful experience.
Thank you, all of you, for coming.
Thank you for Katrina, John, and everyone here at the High Elms Manor for hosting this, and all the gentlemen and ladies who provided the technical support and all the other support here.
I really, really do appreciate that, ladies and gentlemen, very much indeed.
Tonight, I'm going to try and answer a crucial question.
What's going to happen next?
I'm not a clairvoyant.
I'm not psychic.
I can't see the future.
But I'm going to make some educated perspectives based on my study of current affairs and the recent past to try and give you what I think is an honest, unlikely view of what's going to happen in the next few years.
I might be wrong.
Only time will tell.
History will be my judge.
But that is my attempt now.
I'm going to try and do that.
So, this is the thing I've got to use.
Ian R. Crane, this is for you.
I was going to give you an outline of Ian, who he was, but of course you all know, everyone knew who Ian was.
And I'm dedicating this talk to him.
I'm sure wherever he is now, he's watching over us.
It's not the same without him.
It really is not.
Great guy.
Now, there's a lot of problems in the world.
There's a lot of bad things going on.
A lot of issues we've got to deal with.
And I sound like one of those door-to-door preachers, don't I, when I say that?
The guys who wake you up at 7 in the morning.
The guys with the thick glasses and the box full of books.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to be like one of those people.
Although I am going to try and sell you some books.
But I'm going to concentrate on the economic and financial side of things because I happen to believe that there are four pillars of civilization.
One of them is a productive economy that provides a high standard of living for all citizens.
The second is the rule of law.
In other words, ethics, which is the basis of law.
Science.
Logic is the basis of science.
So logic and science is the third pillar.
That actually includes things such as free speech, the trouble-free exchange of ideas.
And the fourth is democracy.
That is the accountable leaders who are subject to appointment and recall by their people by a lawful process which cannot be subverted or overruled, or no one should be able to sneak in through the back door using dirty tricks.
All four of those pillars are under attack, and it's not accidental.
There's an attempt to destroy civilization.
Yep, it's that bad.
And I'm gonna focus now on, Look, I don't have time to focus on all those things, but I'm going to try and deal with a few of these issues at a time.
Yeah, I'm going to try and...
What you have here is a pile of coins, because at the moment...
How's that?
Okay.
Almost everyone in the world.
I mean, I haven't met a single person who's better off financially now than they were five or ten years ago.
I really haven't.
And again, this is the economy, the financial system, is a means of control.
It's a means of wielding power in the world and a means of wielding...
And that is what we have now.
The Earth, the people on the Earth, all the countries, the individuals, the corporations, the organizations, are four quadrillion US dollars in debt.
Well, the Earth is only estimated to be worth 70 trillion in raw capital, which means there's no way we can pay that back.
We've let credit run away.
We'd have to sell Jupiter to the aliens to pay off our debts, so why bother?
One thing is very expensive, but we always keep being able to afford is war.
Now, there's always the threat of a war breaking out somewhere or other.
It's like we can't live without it.
Or I think we could live without it.
But the people who control us, I don't think they could really manage us without it.
And no matter how much these things cost, the money can be found.
Ironically, you know, the...
In fact, the great wars, the world wars of the 20th century wouldn't be possible because they'd be too expensive!
And of course the environment is in a very bad way as well.
Whether you believe that carbon dioxide gas emitted by civilization causes changes in climate, you cannot disagree that human activity is...
We're not in harmony with the natural world.
We could be.
There are ways and means of, for example, generating energy out of nothing, free energy, which I've talked about in more detail in another lecture, which you can get actually online.
It's available, a recording's available online.
And things such as teraprata, which is very, very, very powerful, hyperactive fertilizer, things like that.
The problem is we're not allowed to use those things.
This technology is kept from us.
And while the wars are being fought by nation against nation, nation states are waging wars against their own citizens, with the police forces.
This picture illustrates how much the police have changed over the last few years.
And just look at them, just look at the difference.
There's just a few decades between these two images.
Look at the guys on the right there.
If you were an old lady, would you ask them to escort you across the road?
And Big Brother and the TV.
What's happening is that surveillance and entertainment is coming together.
In other words, the bread and circuses is blending with the Big Brother eye in the sky.
Television.
Yes, that's a great square eye that hypnotizes the masses of the population.
Now, I won't say how old I am, but I do remember when the TV was a small box in the middle of the room and there were just three or four channels.
Today, TV screens are as big as this projector.
This projection screen here.
They're that size.
They fill an entire wall in an average home.
They're high-definition 3D images.
There's thousands of channels.
Yet the quality, the technical creativity and the intellectual content of television has dropped.
Even though the budget of TV and production now is on the scale of Hollywood.
They can't make anything good.
All they can do is make things which are meaningless.
They titillate us on a very superficial level.
And they demoralize us.
They deliberately demoralize us.
They're designed to break our spirit.
Andy Thomas says this.
Everything is designed to break our spirit.
Winston Smith, bend lower.
The telescreen is here.
What was it they said on Edge Media?
Watching you, watching us, watching them.
Well, you're watching TV now.
Your television can watch you.
Some of them have little cameras in these smart TVs.
And they're filming you watching.
Now, what are they doing with that information?
Why do they want to film you watching your TV?
What do they do with that?
The networks, do they have permission to use your images?
Do they have permission to store them?
What are you supposed to do?
But now, as you can see here, we're getting to a point where there will be something like a social credit system they have in China.
China has a huge population.
About a quarter of the people in the world live in China.
They're all under this.
Social credit system, which monitors every single thing you do in your life and gives you a status and ranking within society as a result of that.
It's a bit small there, but it says United Earth, and there's the laurel wreath, which is a symbol of the Roman Empire, which I'll be talking about in a minute.
But the goal is a one world government.
That is a single state that controls everything with nations and countries simply as countries.
And there's ways and means they use of achieving it.
They try to sell it to us as a good thing.
Everything that is presented to us, which damages us, is presented by the people presenting to us, by the people who want us to accept it, as a good thing.
It's always meant to solve some problem or enrich our lives.
You see the propaganda for the European Union, for example.
You see little Dutch girls with bonnets and clogs.
Little French boys with carrying baguettes and wearing berets and little German kids with lederhosen, all sitting in a circle singing kumbaya.
Let's come together.
Let's unite as one.
Let's share our lives and our resources.
But it's designed to manipulate your emotions to support something.
They're very good at that.
These people employ the top psychologists in the world.
And they're very horrible people.
I've met one of them.
I got to know one quite well.
And I tell you, it's a nasty experience.
I won't go into details here, but basically there is a secret society that controls this entire agenda.
I was going to say control the world, because it doesn't control the world completely.
That's the good news, which I'm going to come on to later.
But there is a secret society that wants to control the world.
They even put their symbol on the banknote.
There's the Eye of God there, the Panopticon.
The all-seeing eye at the top of the pyramid.
What it says at the bottom, "Nordus ovus clorum," "New World Order." The eye is supposed to be God, but I don't think it is.
It's not God.
This is the Roman Empire.
Now, the agenda I'm talking about is very old.
It began with the earliest civilizations in Sumer and ancient Egypt, but it really came of age about 2,000 years ago with the emergence of this super-state.
The European Union at its time, the Roman Empire, this entire empire was based on Rome, but it covered everything from the Moors of Northern England to the Persian Gulf at AD 117, its biggest extent.
Now, I was having a conversation earlier which was very enlightening considering what I'm talking about because the Roman Empire had several methods of holding this vast state together.
In the days before, technology and communication would allow instant access to everything that's going on.
And one of the methods they used was religion.
I can't talk about that in detail, but there are a couple of gentlemen here who know all about it.
If you can have a conversation with them, they'll be very enlightening and explain where that all came from.
This here is one of the engineering and architectural wonders of the world, Hadrian's Wall.
It stretches for 86 miles across northern England from the Tyne Estuary to the Solway Firth.
It had numerous forts along it.
It was an amazing piece of work.
Now this indicates the obsession the Roman Empire had with Britain.
They tried to conquer all of Britain.
They had to stop at Hadrian's Wall, but that's about two-thirds of Britain was under Roman rule.
There were actually Romans, senators and people like that in officialdom who said that Britain should not be conquered.
It should be abandoned.
It was a big white elephant.
Up to a fourth of the Roman military machine was continuously in Britain.
A whole quarter just for that one little province.
You saw what a tiny part it was of that big empire on the map I showed you just now.
So why?
Why are they so desperate to hold on to Britain?
One of the biggest structures ever created to protect it from invasion from the north, from the Caledonians and the Picts.
That's it.
It may have something to do with the same reason that there are so many crop circles in this country.
Crop circles are a global phenomenon, but they're centred here in Britain, especially on the West Country.
And you may have heard the term heart chakra of the world.
Yeah, it's something I've heard many times.
It's got me thinking.
There is something special about Britain on a spiritual level, which could explain why the Romans were so desperate to hold on to it.
The Romans controlled by that all-seeing eye, the Panopticon of the Illuminati, or whatever you want to call them, the Deep State, the Cabal, the New World.
I'll use the word Illuminati for convenience, but you may have other names for them.
The emergence of crop circles, I think, is very, very important because I think it's a positive message appearing as is here in the heart chakra of Britain while the Illuminati are trying to lock it down ever since the Roman Empire.
So, yeah, we can celebrate when we see things like this.
They're still going on.
We keep hearing they're going to stop and the guys with planks are going to put them away, but even during the lockdown when the guys with planks had to stay at home, these still appeared.
I must admit, the lockdown was the perfect experimental control, wasn't it?
It really was.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, this is Queen Boudicca.
She was the queen of the Caney tribe of Norfolk.
And in 1860, she led a rebellion against Roman rule.
These were the Brexiteers of their time, although they were a lot tougher than today's Brexiteers.
This lady would have terrified Nigel Farage to death.
I swear.
But she did.
She led it.
Now, it didn't work.
It was crushed.
The rebellion was crushed.
But it's illustrated some important things.
Firstly, this is a very emotive story.
I find this story very emotive, as do many people.
Possibly because simply I'm British, and we British have something of a fetish for heroic failures.
This is why we love Captain Scott and people like that.
But this still has an important message for us 2,000 years later, Many people think they are.
If you listen to Alex Jones and some of the other guys, how he used to be, he used to go, the Illuminati are doing this and they're doing that.
And they run this and they control that.
It's very easy to fall into despair because for an institution that powerful, that it secretly controls so many others, how can anyone fight back against that?
How can that amount of power ever be overcome?
Well, it can be because the Illuminati are not all-powerful.
They are not all-knowing.
They make mistakes.
They are not infallible.
And sometimes they lose control.
And one day they're going to lose control completely.
And this lady, 2,000 years ago, and all the people with her, demonstrated their weaknesses.
But this is the world we live in now.
I've got the laser pointer, but I'll point it out to you.
At the bottom you have the people, then you have the religions, you have the governments, the various kinds of military police, courts and things, and then there's the corporations above that, then you have the central banks, then you have the think tanks above that.
Now the think tanks there on the fourth level down, that's kind of where the secret world and the public world meet.
And above that, that's where the secret world takes over.
There's the Committee of 300.
John Coleman wrote a book.
Not to be confused with Vernon Coleman, the guy in the armchair.
John Coleman's someone different.
I've got those two mixed up myself.
John Coleman's someone different.
He wrote the book called The Committee of 300.
The Committee of 300 are controlled by the Council of 13. Above that is the world monarch.
I don't know who that is, but I suspect it's Queen Elizabeth II.
She's certainly the most powerful person on public display in the world.
The eye at the top, that all-seeing panopticon, I don't believe as a person or group of people, I believe it's actually something beyond our universe.
It's a malevolent force that works rather like the Eye of Sauron in Lord of the Rings, in a kind of supernatural way.
But that's the way the control system operates.
But brace yourselves.
The conspiracy theorists are coming.
Yeah, good old Boromir.
He's great, Boromir.
As Boromir says, we're coming.
Now, we are.
I mean, this is the thing.
We're fighting back.
It's not a one-sided battle here.
We have people like David Icke.
This guy was very influential on me, especially in the early days when I started getting involved in this sort of thing.
I read all his books.
I watched all his lectures.
I was, like, hooked on everything he did.
I still take a good interest in what this guy says.
Alex Jones.
I've already mentioned him.
Now, he's changed his tune a little bit lately, but I still listen to him.
I still think he's interesting.
I still think he's a good guy.
This was in 2013 at the Bilderberg Fringe Festival right here in Watford at the Grove Hotel.
Did any of you go to that?
Yay!
Well done, guys.
I'm somewhere in that crowd.
I got to meet Alex.
I can't see myself, but I am somewhere in there.
That was an amazing thing, that was.
It really was.
Now, the 9-11 truth movement, a lot of people say it failed.
I suppose if you look at it in a short-sighted way, that the 9 /11 truth movement was intended that everyone should know about what happened on 9 /11, if that was the objective within a few years of it actually happening, then yes, that's a failure.
But I don't think it is a failure in the long run, because questions like this: World Trade Building 7 didn't just blow itself up?
Those questions are still there.
They're still being asked by people.
People who were even born after 9-11 now...
When people don't have a mission to fight for, they fight each other.
Well, we do have a mission.
Yet again and again, I see people attacking each other within our community over personal issues which they aggrandize into really what they seem to portray as completely crucial issues which they spread all over social media.
Like if nothing else matters.
And I've been on the receiving end of this, as some of you may well know if you've been following my work, simply perhaps for defending people I believe who've been unfairly accused or for things that I've said.
Hands up here, who's a shill?
It's a perfect example here.
Who's a shill?
Anybody?
Anyone working for the government?
Agents?
Nobody?
We're going to have a confession this evening?
No, well, okay, hands up who's been accused of being a shill.
Surely, yeah.
Loads of people must have been accused of being a shell.
I mean, I should put my own hand up there because I and many, many other people have been accused of working for the government, being agents, MI6.
Gordon Crichton, who was mentioned earlier on, the fact that he once was simply an MI6 officer has led people to believe, some people believe, oh, well, he's still working for them.
Well, that's not evidence.
That's not evidence to accuse people.
And there's many, many more examples I can tell you right now.
I used to present a program on Planet X Radio, which was based in Liverpool.
It was online and it was on the airwaves, and I loved it.
I was there with Tony Topping and several other people.
I was accused of working for MI5.
I wish.
I wouldn't mind the salary.
We all were.
The entire station...
The person making the accusation, when I finally challenged him, I said, why do you think we work for MI5?
Why do you think that?
Where's your evidence?
You know what his reply was?
Your website looks a bit like mine.
I said, where's your evidence?
That's it!
That's the evidence!
And it gets worse, it gets worse and worse.
I'll talk a bit more in a minute about a more recent example, but I came up with the idea of the Shill Tribunal.
Now, the Shill Tribunal is basically that.
It's a court.
I'm just making my clock come back.
There we are.
It's a court which we set up ourselves.
Privately, working completely independently.
No judicial power, no ability to enforce any verdicts.
It's just a way of creating some kind of due process when these kinds of actions come about.
Because I'm fed up with it.
I'm fed up with hearing these kinds of accusations that I've just talked about.
People presenting no evidence, but just thinking, I'll just say it anyway.
And some people even make up fabricated evidence.
What you have with the Schill Tribunal is...
And at the end of the trial, we work it all out.
The evidence can be presented and the verdict can be published.
Because we can't go on like this.
We can't go on with this medieval justice that we have within our community.
This ordeal by hashtag.
We've got to be adults.
We've got to be mature.
Now, this is the cosmic hoax.
Has anyone seen this?
A cosmic hoax.
Yeah, this is Dr. Stephen Greer's new documentary.
He brings out new documentaries every so often.
I have mixed feelings about them.
There's no doubt that Dr. Greer has a right to be proud of what he's achieved.
He was influential on me in the 2000s and got me into exo-politics.
But this is his worst.
I've got to say that.
It's his worst.
It includes what I can only describe as wanton slander.
I've never suggested that we should hang on the words of people like Lou Elizondo, Tom DeLonge, Chris Mellon.
I've never said we should just believe everything they say.
But there is not enough evidence to support the accusations Dr. Greer makes against those people in this.
And when it comes to Leslie Kane, his attack on her, I think, is contemptible.
It's thanks to her being one of the best researchers and Ralph Blumenthal, the New York Times, that we know as much as we do.
And Leslie Kane's book is really, really definitive, I think.
But Dr. Greer has his own ideas about what's going on in the world.
He believes all of new ufology is a hoax.
He has his own vision of what's going on in the exo-political world.
And he believes it's okay to project that without any due process, without going through the situation that I described earlier with the Shill Tribunal.
Which is a shame.
Because we've got more important things to worry about, haven't we?
If we stop this new world order, I will promise you, I'll write a big massive treatise on who did what to whom, who's a shill and who's not.
Who's the king of the castle and who's the dirty rascal?
But until then, faced as we are by this, I hope you don't mind if I re-prioritise somewhat.
But I've got to ask this question, is there any hope?
Yeah.
It's not a spoiler.
It's really rhetorical.
Yes, of course, there is hope.
There is hope.
In fact, there's more now, I would say, despite all the bad things I've talked about.
There's more now than I think at any other time, certainly within my lifetime.
Who remembers this?
This was December the 21st, 2012.
This lady knows, yes.
Now this has kind of disappeared from everyone's minds, but at the time it was really, really big.
It was when the Mayan long-count calendar changed over for the first time in over 5,000 years.
And the things that were supposed to happen, you know, like, we were either going to, like, have some massive spiritual epiphany and wake up as priests of Atlantis, or fire and brimstone is going to rain down from the sky, and we're going to end up, like, with some kind of disaster, a crustal displacement, like in that awful film by Roland Emmerich.
Did any of you see 2012?
We were warned by Roland Emmerich?
Yeah.
I watched it, too, and at the end, I went and looked in the mirror, and I thought, Ben, you're two hours older, mate.
Yeah.
Not Hollywood's best, I would say, by far.
But what's interesting about this, even though people have forgotten about it, because nothing much happened that day, well, the day itself wasn't, Well, for me it was too, because my partner at the time, her mother died that day, so it was quite eventful.
We still found it within ourselves to do a little meditation at the 11-11 moment, but for personal reasons that was very, it was very, it was kind of...
But a lot of people said, well, that's it then.
Forget about it.
There's nothing going on here.
Nothing happened, like in the movies.
So let's just forget about it.
But, you know, there's several things wrong with that idea.
Firstly, it's not the only thing that's changing according to ancient traditions and spiritual discoveries.
Firstly, this is all very ancient.
The Kali Yuga is coming to an end.
We don't know the exact date, but we know it's 2025.
Just a few years away.
2021 now.
It's something to look forward to.
In the Hindu calendar, the Kali Yuga, the Yugas, the ages go through various cycles.
There's three levels of cycles, and they're each ruled over by a different god or a different philosophy.
At the end of the Kali Yuga, you get what's called the Arya Yuga or the Satya Yuga.
Arya Yuga, the age of nobility or the golden age, which follows immediately on from that.
That's two examples of things within a few years of each other are changing over.
Now, there's also the age of Aquarius.
You know the song, don't you?
This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.
I love it.
I love it.
It's great.
It's a lovely song.
Now, the Age of Aquarius, when the Age of Aquarius actually happens, it depends on the astrology you ask.
I think Helen Sewell has spoken here, and she believed that it's not going to happen probably until the middle of the next century.
Others say, no, no, the Age of Aquarius started around about 1900, and we're already more than a century into it.
It doesn't really matter.
It's just there's...
It's based on astronomy, though.
It's based on changes within the stars and within the planet.
And the phrase goes from the song, when the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars, peace shall rule the planets and love shall steer the stars.
That's how it goes.
I think it fits in better than the song it does for actual astrology.
It's an interesting idea.
The idea of the ascent of man as a juxtaposition to the fall of man.
These things are perennial in all cultures across the world.
The story of Adam and Eve.
I don't believe there was literally an Adam and Eve and an apple and a snake, especially a talking snake, but it doesn't matter.
It's symbolic of the relationship between our species and the divine and the cycles of the universe.
There's always this idea that you can return to grace following your fall.
That's the idea.
And the second coming is a very interesting thing too.
Now, I'm not a Christian, but I wouldn't mind if Jesus came back.
I wouldn't object.
Obviously, I'd have to apologise to him for not going to church every Sunday and things like that.
I hope he'd understand.
But if that happened, it'd be great.
This particular idea of...
he shall come again in glory to Joseph the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
There's some quite lurid fictionalizations of this, like the left behind novels of Tim LaHaye and the other guy on I can't remember the other guy's name.
Now, this can often result in what's sometimes called utopianism.
This is the idea that we can create essentially a perfect world on the earth.
Now, I tend to shy away from that idea simply because it's quite a dangerous one and it has shown itself to be dangerous.
A lot of harm and evil has been done as an attempt to create that utopia through extremist religious violence and indeed political secular ideas like Marxism.
So I tend to shy away from the idea.
But a dangerous idea is not necessarily untrue.
Sometimes it could be a danger we might have to face if that is our destiny.
I don't know.
I think it's something that I entertain without accepting.
Now, David Icke did a very, very interesting interview in 2008.
He said that the whole Mayan calendar thing, the whole 2012 thing, he said that was a distraction.
The 2012, nothing was actually going to happen on the actual day of 2012.
And many other Mayanologists and people like Jeff Stray and people like that were saying something similar.
what he said was he thought 2016 was more likely to be the year when everything changed for real.
Basically what what it meant was and I agree with this is that the changing of the mind It wasn't a damp squib.
I think it represented the flicking of an etheric switch within the spiritual body of the earth from on a very, very deep level, which possibly was raised and resulted in...
Nothing happens manifestly within the world at that moment, but over time, those forces that have been unleashed...
Now, two things happened in 2016, which you may well have very, very varied opinions of.
Some you will think they're good, some will think they're bad.
It doesn't really matter.
What matters is that it was not what the Illuminati elite intended.
One was Brexit.
We voted leave to leave the European Union.
The other was the election to the White House, US President, of Donald Trump.
These things were not intended.
They were really not.
And I think the effects of these we're still feeling today because I believe the Illuminati completely lost control.
They totally lost control of all the political structures of the world for a period of about six months.
They grabbed back with their nails and they've been desperately trying to hang on since then.
But there's absolutely no doubt there was a massive snafu in the engine room at this moment.
There really, really was.
And I think it's still going on.
Again, this is something that you will have mixed feelings about.
But a lot of people who turn up at protests, they wear things like the letter Q. And you see hats, t-shirts, this guy's got a big one around his neck.
This refers to QAnon, which is, it began really as an internet meme.
And many people think it's fake.
In fact, Neil Sanders, I think, who has been here, I think I've seen him here, he believes the whole thing is just a bit of fun that got out of hand.
He believes that Trump and Brexit was all part of the plan.
It's all just another scam within this array of scams.
It was all done by Cambridge Analytica and things like that.
And QAnon is just one of these things.
It was started off as a bit of fun.
It's been used as a PSYOP.
But what if it's true, or even partly true, even if it's not literally Q as it's been portrayed, what if there are people, powerful people now, In this world, people who are not psychopaths, or not reptilians, or whatever you want to call them, who are not on the side of the New World Order, yet they have clout, political, military, financial clout.
They have the sympathies, or they have control of the army, for example, things like that.
What if those people are currently at work in this world to stop the New World Order?
I don't know, but I do know that The powers that be, the politicians or the powers that shouldn't be or the powers that were, they are walking around looking rather frightened at the moment.
They're sort of tiptoeing and they keep looking over their shoulders and they're hiding behind more security than usual.
You can't even get near the White House now.
Apparently the curtains are all shut and it's boarded up.
God knows where Uncle Joe is and his cohorts.
I mean, they're hiding out somewhere.
If that's true, if that's really happening, that's a good thing.
It might not be.
But what if it is?
And then we come on to this.
Now, this is something remarkable.
I could talk for much longer.
I don't have time to talk for a long period on this.
But in 2017, something absolutely fundamental, an unprecedented change within the world of ufology.
Between then, from 1947 and when the Cutler Twining memo was first sent, which said that the media should always treat UFOs With official ridicule and denial, even though the government know that they're real and know that they ain't from around here.
That changed very suddenly in December, on this 19th of December, actually, 2017.
Everyone remembers, or I certainly remember where I was that moment.
I was here.
That was me.
And it was Colin Woolford there, the speaker, who's going to be here tomorrow.
We were doing a show with Miles Johnson at the Basis Project that day, and it was really amazing.
We were just talking about nothing, normal stuff within the show, and Miles suddenly breaks in.
He says, gentlemen, have you heard?
The US government has just released some videos of UFOs.
Blimey, what's going on?
And of course, it all came from that.
These pictures were released.
And we thought, amazing, incredible.
We were cautious.
Everyone was cautious about this.
John Greenwald of the Black Vault, you know that guy?
He's not sceptic, but he is sort of on the trailing edge of the I want to believe mentality.
He's very cautious.
And he was saying, maybe these aren't real.
Maybe these are just like some basement boys, you know, just doing it on their computer.
But it wasn't.
Then, in May 2019, In September 2019, the footage, which we did wonder about, was confirmed as coming from the U.S. Navy.
They said, yes, this is ours.
We did it.
These are from our aircraft, which was a great vindication for people like David Fravor and Alex Dietrich.
Who had gone public as pilots and said, yeah, we had these amazing encounters.
We helped film some of this stuff.
And they were backed up by other sailors on the ships.
In January 2020, more evidence exists.
Yes, the U.S. Department of Defense admitted that there is much, much more from the Nimitz encounter than they're saying.
This is the USS Nimitz, aircraft carrier.
Which is surrounded by other ships, which provide security and an extended range of sensors for this particular ship.
Now, it's being held back.
A lot of it is telemetry.
It's things such as electronic support measures and radar logs and things like that.
But the reason it's been held back is actually not to do with the UFO context at all.
It's because if it was revealed, it may give away too much information about...
But they really have admitted, they said there's a lot more.
It's not just those images.
So the people like Mick West and the other skeptics analyze these images and pick them to bits and think they've disproved them, and they haven't even done that.
There's a lot more information out there, which hopefully we will see at some point.
Do you remember, did any of you read the UAPTF report?
It's not much.
It was only a very mild publication, not really much of any interest.
However, there's a lot more.
They've admitted there's a lot more, and it's been given to the House and the Senate in the U.S., and I think it's probably going to be leaked at some point.
Who knows?
What about other countries?
There's no reason why this should necessarily be centered on the United States of America.
There's plenty of other countries that have the capabilities of dealing with this.
They have evidence.
I've looked at it.
I'm interested in it.
Including Britain.
So, who knows where the next big revelation could come from?
In April 2020, the videos were declassified.
They were put into the public domain, which is a bit pointless, isn't it?
Rather like shutting the stable door after the horse is bolted.
But again, that's actually very important for people like David Fravor, the witness there.
Because this essentially means that he's not going to be prosecuted.
For speaking about classified material, because that's probably at the back of his mind.
He is technically a whistleblower.
He doesn't want to end up in jail with Julian Assange, nor does any of the others.
This essentially, it's a nudge in the ribs to say we're not going to prosecute you.
And that could be very interesting, because there's going to be other whistleblowers.
This is going to be encouraging more to come through.
In fact, they have.
Mr Greenwood from the Westall School, he's come forward after 55 years.
He's now speaking out.
More and more people are going to speak out.
There could be some prosecutions, but again, I think the opinion, the tide of opinion has shifted in favour of whistleblowers now, and if one of them gets a very light sentence, or an acquittal even, or with lots of mitigation, that essentially sets a common law precedent for others to come forward, in which case, the secrecy can't be kept.
And in July 2020, ATIP is admitted, which actually didn't close in 2012, it's simply rebranded.
It changed its name and moved from the DIA to the DOD.
Called itself the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, which is what it's known as today.
And it has to publish a report every six months.
Now this is probably the most interesting thing of all.
Anthony Pregalia, the ufologist, sent a Freedom of Information Act request to the Defense Intelligence Agency asking about what information they had about the materials that were talked about on the Tucker Carlson show by Lou Elizondo and Bob Bigelow.
Bob Bigelow was a contractor involved in the project to analyse strange materials that had been gathered from, well, they sort of used to...
whenever you ask them where they came from they kind of do this they go They say, well, are they Chinese?
No.
No, no, not Chinese.
Russian?
No, no, no.
Do they come from an American plane?
No, no.
Where do they come from then?
Oh, I've got to go now.
Sorry.
It's like that.
It's the subtext.
It's reading between the lines is where all the interesting stuff is.
This is incredible.
Bregalio was sent back a letter saying there's a 154-page document on the materials.
The physical evidence that has been gathered by the ATIP and the UAPTF, only 11 pages were suitable for publication.
All the rest were exempt from the Freedom of Information Act.
Wouldn't you just love to read those 143 pages, the ones that were too hot for foyer?
But anyway, the ones that were published are interesting enough.
I mean, God knows what the ones that are still secret say.
But they talk about materials that are described as being metallic alloys that contain elements we're familiar with because they're common throughout the universe.
But they're alloyed in ways in which you don't get through normal production, through normal manufacture, through forges and things like that.
Dr. Irena Scott, a lady who's written three very good books about this, because she worked at the Battelle Memorial Institute, which dealt with this, had to analyse these materials.
She found it very difficult to melt them in forges and things like that.
They're known as metamaterials.
There's one that's been christened nitinol.
Now it's described as a metallic substance that was found in a thin sheet, and when you fold it up, It has an elasticity which is very rare among materials.
You find it in things like rubber.
But this is not rubber, this is elastic.
Now, does that sound familiar to any of you?
Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. claims he was shown by his father, Jesse Marcel, Major Jesse Marcel, material in July of 1947 from the Roswell crash that matches exactly What's in this 11-page document that Anti-Bregalia came out with?
I don't think that's a coincidence.
They're talking about something that came from the Roswell crash.
Aliens.
It's not made on Earth.
It has an isotopic ratio, which doesn't mean it...
Because it's isotopic radios, not from the is not from the isotopic ratio means it didn't come from the earth well isn't it I mean, it sounds a bit of a waste, doesn't it?
Or was it actually manufactured off the Earth?
Now, the Omaha incident, and this particular piece of footage came out much later after all the others.
It's not as impressive as the Tic Tac footage or the others from 2004, however, There's a film that accompanied this of a radar display showing numerous objects around the ship, the USS Omaha.
Now, this is a calendar, and every arrow you see on this calendar, there's a calendar from 2017 to the present year, whenever you see an arrow, this is when some big revelation happens in the world of ufology.
Now, there's no provable structure to this.
But if you look at the spacing, it's very interesting.
2018, nothing really happened.
It was like a blank year.
They may have decided to give us an entire year to absorb the initial drop in 2017.
But as soon as 2019 comes, you get one there, then two months later, then there's a gap, and then in 2020 it ticks off.
Again, you get a two-month gap, and then more, and then you get one there.
Is this some kind of schedule?
I can't prove it, but...
I think I would have expected these arrows to be closer together if this was just some viral leak.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Here's something else.
This is a mua mua.
How many have heard of this?
Yeah, this is amazing.
This came through the solar system and Dr. A.V. Loeb of Harvard University, the head of astrophysics and astronomy, has very bravely gone on the record in his book Extraterrestrial.
And said that this is an artificial structure.
Now this is an artist's impression.
It's known as the turd picture for obvious reasons.
You see, the artist has to specifically try to make it look like a natural object.
It's long and thin, but apart from that it's all rough and it's obviously like an asteroid or comet or something, like all the others are.
But this is not an accurate image of Oumuamua.
This is not based on any astronomical observation at all.
The only pictures we have of Muamua are as a tiny little pink spot of light.
We don't know that it looks like this.
Nobody knows.
This is the artist using their imagination, and because of the imagination, it says, well, it's a natural object, this is the picture that's in every media outlet about it, so that people will think it's just a natural object.
But according to Dr. Loeb, Professor Loeb, It's actually accelerating in ways which indicates it's not just under the influence of gravity, it has a means of propulsion.
He suspects it's a solar sail, something which uses solar wind to maneuver it.
Now, those don't happen in nature.
Those only happen in manufactured spacecraft.
Now, this is amazing, isn't it?
This is a picture taken under the sea, and you can see a little crab crawling up that rock there.
Do you see it?
It's a little crab.
But it's not taken under the sea.
It's taken on Mars.
What is that thing?
Do you see it there?
It's got legs.
It looks like a crab or a spider or something like that.
That's crawling up the side of a rock face on Mars.
Now, there's two craft that just landed on Mars.
Perseverance and Shang.
Now, the Perseverance is the first one.
It was an American one.
It's followed by the Chinese one.
They're both very sophisticated.
Perseverance is unique.
It's not among Martian exploration.
It sent back the first motion pictures from another planet, the first sound.
It has a little rover that can drive around.
It has a little helicopter called Ingenuity to fly over Mars.
And as a result, Mars has received much, much more media attention than it normally would.
Now, this in itself isn't any information like this regarding life.
So, for example, if they find simple life on Mars, it's going to be big news.
Maybe I say discover or find, but I think they already know.
It's more like they're just going to tell us, and they're going to use this perseverance to tell us what they already know, that life exists on Mars.
But that in itself is not revolutionary.
But it's going to get people's minds focused in the right way.
This is Helen Sharman.
Do you know her?
She's the first British person in space.
She believes in aliens.
She said so.
She's a qualified chemist, and she's a person of enormous historical responsibility, and she believes in aliens.
Now, this is Kim Wilde.
Now, I'm not a fan of the TV.
One of the worst programs is probably Loose Women.
It's a horrible, shallow, gossip, sort of feminist propaganda piece.
But even the filthiest dung heap sometimes contains a jewel, and Kim Wilde is quite a jewel.
But, you know, I admire her now even more than I used to because she talked about her own UFO sighting on national television.
She was in her back garden.
Her husband was with her.
He went in to get a camera.
It was in the local papers.
Well done, Kim.
Now, Storm Area 51. This was just created as a meme, but it really took off.
I'm glad no one was killed, it just turned into like a It's called Alien Stock.
But it just goes to show how popular these sort of ideas are.
Let's see them aliens.
They can't stop us all.
And the Space Force.
Do you know what the Space Force says?
The Charter of the Space Force.
Provide freedom of operation for the US in, from and to space.
Provide prompt and sustained space operations.
Protect the interests of the US in space.
Deter aggression in, from and to space.
Conduct space operations.
Did you hear what I said?
Let me just read that bit again.
Conduct, sorry, deter aggression in, from, and to space.
There's aggression coming from space?
That's weird, isn't it?
What I'm saying is, this is weird, this little alien boy, have you seen this?
This was from UNICEF in 2015.
It's a little alien boy, a hybrid.
He enrolls at a school and the other kids are really nasty to him, but eventually they accept him.
It's like a little one-minute commercial.
This is in Britain.
I know someone whose grandson was involved in this.
Some kids came into school.
They found a UFO crashed in their school playground.
Are we being prepared for official UFO disclosure?
This is the question.
Is everything I've just explained some kind of crash course for the general population?
They're not thinking about us.
We're used to these ideas.
but most people are not.
Because it would, to quote David Bowie, you know, it would blow our minds.
On the other hand, is Dr. Greer partly right?
Are we being given fake information leading to the fake alien invasion scenario, which will justify a global state of emergency to protect us from the aliens, War of the Worlds style?
I don't know.
I mean, these are questions we need to answer.
I don't have a final answer to that, but I want to tread a fine line between extreme cynicism and extreme naivety.
You see, I don't want us to face a fake alien invasion, which everyone will believe will reel, but what if there is a real good guy trying to get the word out about UFOs?
I don't want to miss that opportunity either.
And of course, the C word.
I can't say it because this is probably going to go on YouTube.
It's a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing.
Says Boromir once again.
Yeah.
This is an excuse to mass medicate the population, to create an enormous amount of government regulation, hyper-regulation of the economy, more and more controls over our lives.
And I think this is their 2016.
This is the Illuminati striking back to try and stop something like 2016 ever happening again.
And there's the power of nightmares.
Have you seen this?
It essentially indicates that governments really like the idea there's some kind of crisis at all times.
That it has to be some kind of scandal, crisis, fear, something for us to be afraid of, something for us to feel uncertain about at all times.
Their entire relationship with us now is based on that.
And if they can't find a real one, they'll make one up.
It's already, right now, when the virus that is sweeping the world is, it's really starting to jump the shark, isn't it?
You know, when they talked about these passports for nightclubs that are coming out, the whole world went, they groaned, and I don't think they're going to get away with giving people medication in exchange for passports to get into nightclubs.
But, so, they will replace it with something else.
We've already heard.
There's going to be food shortages.
They might have to bring back rationing.
There's not enough lorry drivers or farmhands, and the government has been quietly buying up the farmland in the United States, offering farmers cash incentives to retire early.
Just checking the clock again.
I'm just checking the time.
Seven minutes, right?
It's just five, is it?
Five minutes?
Seven, yeah.
It says seven here.
Okay, no problem.
Electricity shortage.
Apparently there are cyber terrorists out there that are going to hack all the power stations that we're going to have no electricity.
Have you heard that one?
It's another thing.
We need them.
We need those overpaid bureaucrats in the White House in Washington and in Number 10. If we don't have them, these nightmares will come true.
But fear not, ladies and gentlemen.
Fear not.
this is the information that's keeping me alive this is Lyle Watson South African scientist He discovered something very interesting in 1952.
Now look at them, aren't they cute?
Those are snow macaques.
These little monkeys that live in Japan.
They're really, really sweet.
But they're very intelligent creatures.
They eat potatoes, which they dig up, and they eat them.
Now one day, Lyle Watson described, said, they found a way of washing the dirt off them and making them taste better, because they live on a little island.
They took them down to the sea and just washed them in the sea.
And as a result, they got a little bit of salt in them, and they were cleaner.
Now, one monkey did that.
Another watched the monkey doing that and thought, I'll try that.
And little by little, the idea caught on.
And all the monkeys started doing it.
Now, Watson thought it would probably take a couple of years for all the monkeys on all the islands.
They're called Kashima, the islands of Japan, to learn this little trick.
It didn't.
It took, after about a couple of weeks, about 1% of the monkeys were And as soon as 1% knew how to, suddenly they all seemed to everywhere.
Even the ones that had no contact with the original group.
This is where you get the phrase hundredth monkey effect.
Have you heard that?
Yeah, it's good.
It's because of this guy, Carl Jung, who talked about the collective unconscious.
Once a certain amount of information is within the collective unconscious, it spreads to the rest of the population almost automatically through that process.
So we don't have to all learn it.
We don't have to sit around trying to wait, oh wait, why won't everybody wake up?
There's only a few of us in this room, but no one else is waking up.
Well, it only takes 1%.
We're related to monkeys, all of us.
We're quite closely related, so maybe, Who in here is the 100th monkey?
No one knows exactly when that moment will be reached, or who it is, or what piece of information they get.
But at some point, maybe we're already past it.
The 100th monkey will emerge.
And you know what?
This is funny, but the latest opinion polls, the public image of ourselves is changing.
Latest opinion polls indicate that we are actually A small vocal tip of a huge silent iceberg.
A large number of people who, when given an opinion poll by Gallup, told the pollsters that they believe a lot of the things that we do.
And you'd be surprised how many of them.
Not the majority for most cases, but for many of them.
11% of people think the 9-11 was an inside job.
40% of people think that Roswell was an alien spaceship.
51% of Americans believe that this guy, John F. Kennedy, Was not shot by Leave Harvey Oswald acting alone.
It wasn't just Oswald on his own.
It was a conspiracy.
That's a majority.
There are many, many other examples.
It appears that there is a rising level of awareness among the population, even among those who just keep it to themselves, except when someone in the opinion polls asks them.
I'll skip that.
We now are faced with, I think, a wonderful opportunity.
To return to grace.
To become what we are meant to be.
To dispose of the all-seeing eye that exists outside our universe and tell it to go and find somewhere else.
It's like the parable of the sower.
I was talking about this with these gentlemen earlier on.
We're the fertile ground, to paraphrase the Bible, the parable of Jesus.
The illuminati are only here because we're letting them in.
We can become the stony ground and they'll go somewhere else.
Now, is that glass half full or half empty?
In other words, do you want to be an optimist or a pessimist?
A lot of people are frightened of optimists and they're frightened of being optimists because they fear disappointment.
If you're an optimist and you get proven wrong, yes, you feel disappointment.
But look at the other side of the card.
If you're a pessimist and you're proved wrong, you miss out on all the fun!
Don't you?
That's why I'd rather be an optimist.
Terence McKenna, amazing chap he is.
There's loads of his recordings on YouTube if you want to see them, hundreds of hours.
He said, "The main thing to understand is that we are imprisoned in some kind of work of art." Well, what kind of work of art is it?
Is it some disgusting, post-modernist, conceptual piece of junk?
Or is it a beautiful, high-class Renaissance painting?
That's up to us!
We have the paintbrushes, we have the paints.
We decide.
No one else.
This is my book, Roswell Rising, A Novel of Disclosure, which is about everything I've spoken about today, although it's told in fictional form.
So it's about what would happen if we got the truth instead of lies.
Now, I don't actually have a copy of this book here, but Alex has read it, and he's got a copy.
But if you want to buy one, I've got the other two, because it's the first of a trilogy.
There's Roswell Revealed and Roswell Revealed.
So it turned into a trilogy of books.
I've got the first, the second two on my stall if you want them.
£10 each or two for £15.
And you can order the first one from Amazon.
and it'll arrive within a couple of days.
But that's actually...
I think if you like this talk, you'll like these books.
Now, this is my website.
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And my name is Ben Emlyn Jones, and it's been a pleasure to speak to you this evening.
It really has.
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