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May 4, 2025 - Project Camelot
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SAMUEL KIWASZ: SEEKER TEACHER
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Music playing Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
Very happy to be here today.
I have an interesting guest.
He is, I guess, something of an expert on sacred geometry.
And he has made some pendants that people can wear.
And so he sells those.
And he is also going to talk to us about a variety of things.
So welcome, Samuel.
Very good.
Thank you.
And it's great to have you here.
And so can you give us an introduction to you?
And you sent me kind of a long life story, which was quite fun.
And maybe talk a little bit about your background.
I've been studying metaphysics since 1971.
I was raised an atheist.
My parents were Holocaust survivors.
They met in Siberia during World War II.
And they would have probably stayed in Russia after the war if there wasn't so much anti-Semitism.
And so they ended up leaving Russia.
They went to Poland.
My mother lived in a small town in Poland called Dombrowicz, which is now in the Ukraine.
And they went to the little store that the family had.
And the people there said, if you don't leave, we will kill you.
So they ended up in Italy in a relocation camp and ultimately ended up in the United States.
They came in 1940.
Nine.
I was born in 51. I was raised an atheist.
The Jews that went through the Holocaust generally were either very religious or not religious at all.
And my parents were not that religious, very ethically Jewish.
They spoke Yiddish in the home.
But I was raised an atheist.
And then when I transferred to UCLA in my junior year, I discovered the experimental college, which there were classes that anybody could teach and anybody could take.
You didn't have to be a student at the university.
And I found out about yoga, Tai Chi, meditation.
It opened me up completely.
And I switched from being an atheist to being on the spiritual path.
I thought the world was upside down, mixed up, backwards and crazy.
And I asked God to take me through it as quickly as possible.
And two years later, I got my wish.
I graduated from UCLA and I was very confused and didn't know where I fit in in the world.
And I got very depressed.
And then I came out of that depression and went into a euphoric manic state.
Ended up in the mental hospital.
Oh no!
And for 10 years, every year, I would go into a manic state, be hospitalized, be put back on meds, go home.
I was depressed for six months and then I'd pull out of it and get a job, make some friends.
And then by the year's end, I would go manic again.
So I was on a roller coaster for 10 years.
Can you explain, is there a way that you can explain why you went manic or do you know?
I'm not sure.
I think it could have been a little bit of a mental imbalance because I was raised on mostly raw fruits and vegetables.
My mother, when my parents came here after the war, she had some malnutrition, and she was looking for a way to get healthy.
And she discovered the American Natural Hygiene Society, and they believed in eating fruits, vegetables, and nuts, mainly.
And when you're sick, they were even against herbs.
They felt there were stimulants.
When you're sick, you go down by the river, or you rest in bed and stay on water and allow your body to heal itself.
When I was 14, I developed acute colitis, and I was sent to Dr. Shelton's Health School in Bovarda, Texas, and I was put on water for 29 days.
Wow.
And I got over the...
Acute colitis, but I was very weak and I lost 45 pounds.
And I'm not sure.
I didn't have that much protein growing up.
So I might have had a shortage of protein.
Just might have had a chemical imbalance.
Okay.
And I think I was processing the pain of the Holocaust.
I used to watch my parents argue a lot.
And I think I was trying to get through that pain that they transferred onto me.
So what, well, just out of curiosity, did they argue about the Holocaust?
No.
No, they didn't really talk about it.
In general, like people do.
They were opposites.
My mother was mostly raw fruit, you know, organic.
They used to come with a car full of organic produce every week.
My father was a meat and potatoes guy.
He'd come home from work and he'd complain that my mom didn't use enough spices or salt.
And she would say, oh, make it yourself.
And they used to fight about everything.
Everything.
Oh, all right.
So, okay.
So fast forward, you became something of an expert on sacred geometry.
So do you want to explain how that happened?
Sure.
I was given a set of videos from the Flower of Life seminar, which is a six-day seminar taught by Drumbolo Malchizedek.
And he did something very smart for marketing.
He gave a copy of that seminar.
He had all of his students give out free copies to anybody who wanted them.
So I was watching this Flower of Life seminar.
For hours and hours, days after day.
It became part of my DNA.
I was just fascinated by it.
And I think geometric drawing has to do...
In high school, I was in geometry and I was not good at solving word problems between a C and a D in the class.
But on the final, they gave just constructions and I was very good.
I had a natural affinity for constructions.
And so I got a 92%.
And the teacher accused me of cheating, but I don't know who I was going to cheat after.
But I got the C in the class.
So I had an affinity for that.
Maybe I was a geometer in a past life.
I don't know what constructions are.
What do you mean by that?
In geometry, you measure angles and use circles, squares, and triangles to explain How things are constructed from a physical point of view.
Like in sacred geometry, there's the construction of the universe from Akhenaten's time in ancient Egypt.
He had the right eye of school, mystery school, and he explained the creation of the universe from the void and how God projected itself on the x-axis, The Y axis and the Z axis.
And connected the ends of those lines and started to spin them.
And that was the first sphere.
And on the first day of creation, it created another sphere and did that for six days in a row.
It's similar to what's said in the Genesis in the Bible.
And that construction Gradually opened up and opened up and opened up, and that's how the universe was created.
An example of that is the seed of life, six days of creation, with the sphere in the center, and then that opens up to the flower of life, opens up.
And then that opens up to Metatron's cube.
These are all pendants that I carry.
I have over 80 different pendants.
Well, now, my information comes from Ashana Dean in this case, and she has an issue with Metatron.
Okay.
What's your issue?
Well, I don't even know exactly.
I know that Metatron is actually considered some kind of, and it might just be an AI, or it may be, you know, a certain Level of balance or imbalance.
And she has also an issue with a certain missing portion of the Kabbalah and so on.
And there are different number systems.
Like I think there's one based on 12 and one based on 10. Yeah.
Maybe you know that.
So I'm not sure, you know, I'm not, that's not my area.
Numbers are never my area.
But just saying that.
You know, I just want to make that clear here so that people can realize that there's more than one alternative way of interpreting what you're saying.
Sure.
Okay, so your pendants are very small, you know, right now on the camera.
So maybe you could send me some screenshots that I can put in the video later so that people can see them better because it's very small.
Sure.
Okay, so...
So this is what you were learning from Drunvalo.
Is that where we're in the discussion?
Drunvalo, yeah.
Drunvalo, or however you say his name.
Okay.
So, and there are issues with his work as well.
It has to do with also the right path and the left path, and also the way that the Merkaba spins.
So he spins it.
Left to right, I believe, and it's actually supposed to go right to left, according to another philosophy.
So just saying, again, the alternative things going on here.
But when you followed this, as I assume you did, and studied it, then what did you do with it?
Did you use it to meditate or did it benefit you in certain ways or what was the outcome?
Hello?
All right.
It looks like we are.
Yes, we are live.
So we're going to continue this and then I'll edit it and take out the long gaps where we've been able to hear each other and whatnot.
So back to the story here.
You were talking about Junvalo, however you say his name, and what you studied with him.
Drunvalo?
Yeah.
And then you were talking about sacred geometry from his point of view, what you gathered from him.
So my question was, when you disappeared, was how has it benefited you?
Did you use it in meditation or did you use it in other ways?
I've used it throughout my life.
It creates structure and meaning.
And it's a path to source.
I read many books, and I did a lot of online and presentations at expos.
Geometric drawing, the math art connection.
When I got a job, I substitute taught for LA Unified for six years.
When I got a job, Teaching full-time.
It was sixth grade math science.
And I was looking for a way to engage the kids in math because a lot of kids are turned off to math.
So I used the sacred geometry material to create geometric drawing, the math art connection.
And I taught them to draw circles, squares, triangles, and to draw their own sacred designs or mandalas.
And I used music and video to relax them so they could go into the right side of their brain and be more creative.
And I did that for 10 years.
And the kids loved it.
I also taught it as a class for math teachers, up to 16 hours long, up to 100 math teachers at a time at the California Math Conference.
And there's where I taught spirituality.
And it was really amazing that I was able to do that.
Because a lot of these math teachers were very left-brained, and they had no connection to God or spirit.
And I was awakening that in them.
And I found at the end of the workshops, they didn't want to leave because they loved it.
Okay, that's great.
So now, then you started making the pendants, right?
So how did that come about?
Okay, after doing it for 10 years, I wanted something to express sacred geometry.
So I searched the world and I bought this pendant from Australia.
It was a Sri Yantra and I started to wear it and strangers were stopping me in the street and saying, "Where can I get one?" So my light went off in my head and I started buying them wholesale.
And I created a website with the pendants, and then the people in India who were making them saw the website, and they contacted me, and they offered to sell them to me, much less expensive than what I was paying.
And so I got involved with them, and that was like 16 years ago.
And I actually had gone to visit them twice.
I went once about 10 years ago, and they had two kids.
18. And I sat with them, and we had a very spiritual discussion.
And these were kids, and I was very impressed.
And these dependents that they made when we got them, my wife Pauline, who's been studying crystals and gemstones for 40 years, she would imbue them with spiritual energy.
And the people at the shows would feel it.
And it would really be exciting to see how excited they got, especially the ones who are sensitive to energy.
So it's been a whole lifestyle of sharing these pendants.
Now, what is your website address?
We have over 80 pendants.
We have over 80 pendants.
Okay, that didn't work.
S-A-C-R-E-D-P-E-N-D-A-N-T-S dot com.
Thank you.
Okay, we got there.
So, hold on one second.
I'm going to share the screen.
Show people what...
I guess this is your website.
Is this your website?
Yes.
Okay, great.
Okay, very good.
So then people can get an idea of what you're talking about.
Sure.
And so, yeah, very nice.
And you've got some, that way people can actually see the pendants as well.
So I guess you don't need, now that you've given me a link, this is very good.
And the latest thing we've done is starseed pendants.
What planet are you from?
Which area in the universe you resonate with?
Uh-huh.
And people really love them.
Okay.
Is there a page on this for that or not?
It's, it's all, it's, well, here I have, have it in here.
Yes, there's a, they're all mixed in.
Hold it up.
Here, I'll show you, Paige.
this is my brochure Yeah, they're very, each one is very unique.
Yes.
Yeah.
And the one I'm wearing, this is Arcturian.
It showed up as a crop circle.
Okay.
And we made it into a pendant.
Ah, okay.
And it won the prize, the COVID is Coalition of Visionary Artists.
It's all the...
Metaphysical and spiritual stores all across the country, they vote on.
I got Jewelry of the Year in 2023 for that design.
Okay, great.
And they have gemstones, is that right?
Gemstones on the back, glitter on the front, sterling silver on the outside.
Okay.
Do you have any particular ones that you wear?
I mean, do you wear them all, you know?
I wear the Arcturian.
And I wear the...
I wear the I am pendant.
Okay.
Which is a real strong message.
I am that I am.
And it's about awakening to your higher self, which is connected to Source.
And you were talking about the right and the left-handed path of the Kabbalah.
And my first spiritual teacher was a Kabbalist in 1971.
And he said the most direct route to God is through the central column.
It's not the column of the left or column of the right.
And he used to teach me when I walk around.
Like at UCLA when I was a student, to look at everything as if God is looking through my eyes.
And I went from being a very troubled small self, my ego, I was very confused because I was trying to fit in because of my background and, you know, coming from the raw food thing and the Holocaust thing.
Where do I belong?
And when I do that, I would break through and feel bliss.
I'd feel like I was breaking through to my higher self.
And it would last two or three minutes and I would fall back into my regular confused 20-something person.
I went back and forth for a few years trying to integrate the two.
Right.
Okay, good.
Yeah, great.
All right.
And now I don't know if I can see if I can.
I have a chat room associated with this show.
Okay.
And so what I'm going to do is open it up for questions from the audience.
But in the meantime, is there anything that you want to talk about in particular?
Yeah, I wanted to address what you started to say about Ashina Dean.
There is darkness.
You know how you always talk about a lot of the whistleblowers, they're 80% truth and 20% darkness or 90% truth and 10% misinformation?
Well, I don't percentage anything because that's not how I think.
But I appreciate that you're saying, you know, that they actually are in a situation where they can tell the truth about some things.
Other things, they're not allowed to tell the truth.
Right.
And so they're kind of in a quandary.
Right.
And that's when you get, also you can get, they will lie to you if they need to, if they've been told to you.
But go ahead.
So I believe in this three-dimensional world.
That the darkness can seep into everything.
And we have to be very vigilant and raise our vibration so that we can break through whatever is clouding the air, so to speak.
And that could, you know, the things you've heard about Metatron, there could be some truth to that.
Some people think Toth is a great, the Egyptian god is a great healer.
Great teacher.
Some people think he's from the darkness.
So many different views.
That's true.
And it's like, I would say whatever resonates for you, whatever feels like it's enhancing nature, the natural way, is a way of determining whether to go with something or not.
Because there's so many things that will take you off the path and confuse you.
So as you raise your vibration, you become less susceptible to the duality, and you sort of raise up above that into a more graceful place.
Sure.
Transcendence.
Yeah.
That's why we need to evolve.
We're here to grow.
Absolutely.
Again, I'm just sort of asking if the audience has any questions for you.
Someone said that you would have been his favorite teacher.
You sound like a fun teacher.
I would agree.
I was.
I am.
In school.
Okay.
But if you have a question, just put a question mark.
That will work.
Now, in terms of your sort of transition from this state that you were flipping back and forth, how did it actually go away?
Was it after the Drunvalo situation or something?
Very good question.
After 10 years, I got so tired of that yo-yo effect, I finally looked at myself in the mirror.
I had been taking lithium.
My eyes were blurry.
And I said to myself, I'd rather die than continue to live this way.
I had my fill.
And I met a gentleman who was a lay nutritionist.
And he put me on DMSO, EDTA, and amino acids.
And I went on that for two months.
Let me get some water.
And it sort of broke the spell.
And I got outside of that cycle.
I wanted so much to be healthy.
I found another lady who was...
She was...
She worked with a pendulum.
And she worked with natural supplements.
And I spent $250 a month on supplements to fill my brain with this high-level nutrition.
And so I worked on that level.
And I also worked with some teachers like Stuart Wild, Brian Tracy, and another one.
I used to play tapes over and over again on the way to school.
So I filled myself with positive energy and positive food and good nutrition.
I just said enough, and I put my foot down and said, no more of this.
Oh, very good.
And how old were you when you did that?
About 33. Okay, right.
And so, as you did all these sort of remedy-type things, then...
How long until you felt that you were sort of in balance?
And I assume you're trying to say that you stayed in balance since then.
Is that correct?
I have basically stayed in balance.
I had one relapse about 20 years later.
I went and heard a talk on the Christ diet, which was eating all natural raw foods.
And it was like what I was used to growing up, so I switched to it, and it was such a shock to my body that I started to go into manic.
My wife, Pauline, took me to the L.A. County Mental Health, and I started taking lithium for a month, and then I switched over to a naturopathic form of lithium, which is lithium orotate.
I had no side effects.
Regular lithium carbonate is hard on your kidneys.
It can do damage if you take it for years.
So lithium orotate, I take on and off now, just as a precautionary thing.
But I've been able to maintain.
Okay.
Well, I think that would be interesting to people that are having mood swings and various things.
In essence, you kind of changed your philosophy and so on.
It does appear that the raw food diet didn't seem to keep you in balance.
You know, there's one thing, I don't know if you've ever heard of Gurdjieff.
Of course.
You know, Gurdjieff talked about the fact that when you try to become a vegetarian in a meat-eating, in essence, world colony, You are actually, your will gets attacked by the, I guess, the amount of, I don't know what you call it, maybe testosterone, or maybe it's something else in meat.
I don't know what.
And then people, the vegetarians, will have weakened will because of their exposure to huge populations of meat eaters.
So it's not completely possible.
Unless you live in a remote place, I imagine.
You know, where a lot of yogis are vegetarians, they live also out in remote places.
So they're not interacting with people or even rubbing shoulders with them or whatever you want to call it on a regular basis.
But if you are, then what might have been happening to you is something similar to that.
You know, that if you were sort of a sensitive, as it sounds like you are.
And you didn't realize that.
So you were, it's actually not so different right now.
People may not like hearing this, but then the COVID thing, you know, going out in public with COVID, because it's not really COVID, of course, it's the shots that have created the thing.
And the shots, as you know, contain the nanographene oxide and...
Spy protein, which are magnetically attached to each other, and jump, according to a NASA scientist, behind the scenes that I'm in contact with.
And so when you go into, like, say you go to restaurants, or you go to a shopping mall, or wherever it happens to be, where there's a lot of people milling around, then it's going to be a very prevalent amount of...
Nanographene oxide, because it's in the air we breathe, it's in the chemtrails, it's in your clothing, it's in your food, it's in your water, it's in the groundwater.
I mean, it's now really ubiquitous everywhere.
I did a presentation on this several years ago, but it's very important to understand the milieu in which you reside, because we don't live in an isolation tank.
We swim in the water with other beings, and so you could have been triggered by that.
It's a very interesting idea.
I know my wife and I, neither of us had the COVID shot.
That's good.
And I'm aware of that problem.
You know, I have heard also that people who one person had it and the other one didn't, who are sexual partners, the one that didn't get sick a lot from the other one, you know, that kind of thing.
It's just worth knowing about.
You don't have to die in a ditch over it, but I think it's like meat-eating.
Because I was a vegetarian for a pretty long time, actually, and I did go into meditation during that time and connect all my chakras.
But I kind of knew what I was doing.
Eventually, I had to turn back to meat, and I was actually...
In a weakened state at the end of that because I was living, believe it or not, in New York City at the time.
And it was too, the environment was just too intense.
And so I switched to eating meat.
And eventually I kind of went overboard for a little while eating like hamburgers.
And then I just sort of mellowed out and had less because I didn't really want to eat meat, but I was just, you know, in this state.
It restored my health to get back.
But since then, this is when I was in my 20s.
So just saying that you have to reach a system of balance for yourself that works in the system we're in.
You can't be in denial and just go, oh, everything's beautiful, because it's not quite like that.
You're going to be impacted.
Doubly or quadruply intense when you live in war zones, obviously.
You know.
Anyways.
Oh, you want to go?
No, go ahead.
So coming out of this roller coaster, I wanted to help some of my friends who were still going through it.
And I found that when I hung out with them, it would pull me down.
So I realized I couldn't do it alone.
And so I set about creating groups where people could help each other.
And I went to Mexico, Guatemala, and Belize for the harmonic convergence.
And while I was down there, I was in Mexico City.
Just above there is Teotihuacan, the Pyramid of the Sun.
And I was meditating on the Pyramid of the Sun.
And I got a flash that I should create a fellowship of people that meet in my home once a week with meditation and speakers and good food.
And when I came back in 87, I created Transformational Friends of Santa Monica.
And every Wednesday night for a year and a half, we'd have people come over, anyone who was welcome.
And we sat in a circle.
There was no thing about the way you needed to meditate.
I would use music to relax people into it.
I'd use inspirational music to take them out of the meditation.
Half hour of silence.
I had some people complain to me that that's too long.
I said, well, you don't have to come.
I just wanted this to be significant.
And then after the meditation, we'd go around the circle, introduce ourselves, share.
And then we'd have a speaker, a special speaker or movie, something that was uplifting.
Then I'd have a whole table full of healthy food.
The idea that it was anyone who walked in my door could be uplifted on all levels and have a feeling of fellowship.
And I had 600 people on my snail mail list, and every two months I'd send out a flyer explaining who was going to be there, and I'd spend a lot of my time Passing out the flyers, and we'd have up to 40 people in my living room in my apartment in Santa Monica.
And then after that, I did it at the Quaker Friends Meeting House, and we had up to 70 people there.
We did it twice a month.
And I did it for two and a half years, and then the whole thing, and I burnt out.
But in the meantime, I had met my wife, Pauline, and she was helping me.
And then we did occasional events.
And a lot of people connected.
There was a real sense of community.
I wrote a chapter in a book called Building Sacred Community One Home at a Time, encouraging other people to do that in their homes, because I think that's something that's very much lacking in our society.
And I thought we could really change things that people opened up their homes and welcomed their neighbors.
And even the stranger, the stranger is your brother and sister, potentially.
So that's something that I developed.
And then with the 21st century, I started an online community called sacredfriends.org.
And we have up to 2,000 people on that.
People I've mostly met at all the shows and they're friends.
And I send out things that I find out about that I feel need to be known.
I send out like products, special events, special teachers, anything that I feel can uplift humanity.
And I'm called to do this.
I'm the town crier.
I call myself the Goodwill Ambassador for the Southern California Conscious Community.
And it's a lifestyle.
It gives me a sense of meaning.
Like what you do gives you a lot of meaning.
You have to do that in your life.
Yes.
I mean, yeah, I think in a certain sense, that's what we're all doing right now.
Right.
There's a sense of connection.
And when you make a video show, whatever kind of video, it's actually almost doesn't matter.
It's just a matter that you get a community of people that comes in.
To to share it.
So today we didn't have I didn't announce this, you know, because it's not it's not going to be your name.
You're not a well-known person, you know, an entity that that's going to be well-known to the public.
But you obviously have a small circle here in Southern California, whatever size you want to call it.
But you know what I mean?
And then.
Now that we put the show together, then they'll get to know you.
Now, what is your link to this community that you started so people can go there?
Sacred Friends, plural, sacredfriends.org.
Okay, so...
You can also send me the links that we've discussed here.
And then I'll post them under the video that goes on to rumble once we're done here.
And I will edit out the delays that we had.
By the way, there's one more thing.
I was teaching for 22 years.
My first five years was substituting.
My next seven years was math, science, inner city.
And my last nine years was independent study.
Modified homeschooling one-on-one.
I had my own office for middle school students.
And that was very satisfying because I'd get kids who were turned off to education and they'd come in with their parents and I'd re-engage them and I'd look for opportunities to turn them on to education.
Lovely.
Yeah.
And that was very satisfying.
But after nine years of sitting on my butt, I wanted to change.
I got the nine-year itch.
And so I said, there's people making money on the internet.
I'm no dummy.
I can do that too.
So when I found the pendants, you know, I went for it.
And the other thing I went for was someone showed me a violet bottle.
It's called Myron Glass.
And that's the highest level of glassware.
It blocks most of the visible light spectrum from coming in.
It only allows violet, ultraviolet, and infrared.
And so that slows down oxidation.
Light oxidizes things.
So it keeps things fresher longer.
And the infrared and ultraviolet raises the vibrational frequency.
So I did that with the pendants.
Violetflameglass.com Okay, hold on a second.
I'm going to go there.
Violet.
Flame.
Violetflame.com Alright.
In honor of St. Germain.
I see.
Okay.
Hold on.
So I'll just put this on the screen, but obviously people can go there on their own as well.
Oh no, this is kind of weird.
Okay, whatever.
Alright, so you can see this is what you've got, I guess, technically.
It's Violet Flame Glass.
Sounds nice.
And so what do you do with it, that glass?
Anything that you care about.
A lot of people who smoke marijuana, I don't, but it keeps it fresher longer and it helps the frequency.
So do you sell the glass?
Just the glass.
You sell the glass?
Yes.
Okay.
Because I'm just looking on your website.
Where do you sell the glass, per se?
You forgot to put glass in there.
VioletFlameGlass.com.
Oh, this is not your website.
No, no.
Okay.
I should have said something a little sooner.
Okay.
VioletFlameGlass.com?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, I see.
All right.
So, like, if you have nuts or stings...
I'll get it down to the wrong one and put the right one in.
Okay.
That's the right one.
I get it.
You have special powders, mixes that you care about, that you want to stay fresher longer.
We call it the gift that keeps on giving.
That's nice.
Okay.
Very good.
That's quite an interesting idea.
I've never heard anyone talking about this.
So is this just not very well known or what?
It's gotten a lot more well known.
I used to make a lot of money with this and now everybody is selling it because it's gotten very popular.
So I'm still in business, but there's Ho 'oponopono, the Hawaiian tradition.
They believe in blue glass.
And this is the next level up.
It allows even less light inside the container.
Fascinating.
All right.
Great.
I think people will really like that.
I was able to retire from teaching and maintain my lifestyle doing the pendants and the glass.
It's been 16 years.
Excellent.
If you'd like, I can give you a free ad for this violet glass.
I'd love it.
On the front page of my website.
I like to do that and then people can see it and a lot of people might click on it and that sort of thing.
Sure.
Sounds very cool.
All the things that I distribute uplift people.
My gatherings, my products, it's all about raising the vibration, helping people wake up.
Right.
Because we're trying to spread more light onto the planet.
Excellent.
All right, very nice.
Okay, so I am going to...
Shut this down in a little bit here, but is there something else, is there anything else that you would like to wrap up comments or talk about in particular while I still have you on the show?
Yeah, I just want to say that you have to dedicate your life to something you're called to do.
And if you don't do it, you're not going to be happy.
And if you do do it, you're going to face challenges.
And if you have that dedication and if you have that calling, then it's something that is part of you and you make it through the rough times.
I know you've gone through your challenges and I've gone through mine.
And even though my business is up and down, especially with COVID, I still stick to it because it's just what I do and it's how I show up.
I mean, I could go into more biogeometry, which is a whole other level, from Ibrahim Hakim, who was an Egyptian, who got his architecture studies in France, and he was sent to a bookstore in Paris.
And he asked the guy, you know, do you have...
He was sent there to find some special Egyptian information.
The guy didn't know what he was talking about, but someone overheard him.
And they called him, come over here to this room.
And he went into this whole room filled with sacred geometry.
But biogeometry takes it to another level.
It's sound, light, shape, frequency.
It just expands it to...
All aspects of your life.
And, you know, you want to create a home that's filled with this energy.
I agree.
All right.
Well, that's actually very cool.
So I think that, you know, there is something very special about doing what you love.
I think that makes all the difference in the world, you know, gives you reason to get up every morning.
I really do encourage that.
And it's worked for me, obviously.
And it grows from there.
So I just want to say that even if you take small steps towards the things that you love, that's really going to enhance your life.
And so I think it's great that you are here and talking about that because I think that that's something that People might want to be reminded of.
And the more you are enhanced and enthusiastic and sort of in love with your own life, then the more it will radiate out and others will also, it's kind of like catching.
It's catching in the good way as opposed to the more negative ways.
I wanted to share about one other thing, another aspect of my life.
Okay.
I was raised a so-called pink baby.
My parents were very leftist.
Oh.
And I remember as a kid going to Beverly Hills High School, there was an event supporting the Rosenbergs.
You know, they were the ones convicted for espionage.
Right, but apparently that was the false.
Yeah.
Anyways, I was in the auditorium at Beverly Hills High School.
Someone threw a tear gas bomb.
Oh my God.
Which disrupted the whole thing.
This was about 60, over 60 years ago.
And then when, to make a long story short, when 9-11 happened, I knew immediately, immediately that it was an inside job.
So did I. And when Kennedy was assassinated, I knew immediately that it was an inside job because of my background.
And I was raised a liberal Democrat.
But when I've seen what's happened in the political arena, the left Democrats have gone off the deep end.
And I'm not a Republican, but I think I love Tulsi Gabbard.
I love Robert F. Kennedy.
I just love them.
And when I see people like that in the government, it makes me so excited.
And I see such great possibility for really making a positive change.
It's exciting, because politics has always turned me off.
And I see so many people that are...
Afraid and downing the whole thing.
And we're trying to recreate society.
And it's always hard, but I believe there's a divine plan behind it and that we're being steered in the right direction.
And we need to support the ideas that uplift humanity.
We can't get stuck in.
Bullshit politics.
Right.
I wanted to throw that in.
Okay, well, that's fun.
I'm glad.
Okay, well, yeah, I think, to be honest, you know, I think there's wonderful things happening right now.
And I think some of the things that they might look like negative things, but they're actually very positive.
And the whole thing is being overturned, and we're watching it.
So I think to roll with the punches is a really good thing to do right now.
And understand that, you know, it's like anything, what they're really doing.
What we're doing is taking a ship, a gigantic ship, and turning it 180 degrees around or 360, however you want to look at it.
And when you do that, things are going to fall off the shelves and stuff is going to happen, right?
But it's going to continue on its way.
It's now on the way.
And I think we're in a very good place with all of that.
So I am actually even more optimistic now than I was.
I always have been optimistic, strangely, even though I do the job I do, right?
People don't understand that.
But to me, it's very...
Well, the truth is very invigorating.
It's very...
Whenever I have a piece of truth, a new piece of truth, I'm like a dog with a bone.
I'm really happy.
You know, so and I come across a lot of good pieces of truth all the time.
And people bring them to me like, you know, the whistleblowers and just regular people also.
And so if you want to call them regular.
And so, you know, I don't really like those kind of terms.
But anyway.
I think so.
We're really in an amazing time, and I think it's good to have sort of a welcoming approach to the future as opposed to running away, wanting to hide your head under his bed in the sand and all that kind of thing.
I think this is a great time to step forward.
So for those that are listening and participating in today's talks that we're having.
Okay, so I'm going to let you go.
Any parting words?
When people try to tell me, get me engaged in the political discussion about how bad it's happening with Trump, I say, we don't know what the long-term effect is.
Let's give it a chance.
And what can I say?
I want to say...
Carrie, I want to thank you because I've been following you for many, many years and supporting you.
And it's a joy to support you.
Thank you.
And I want to thank you for all the work and all the risks you've taken on behalf of humanity.
You deserve an Academy Award for that.
That's a sweet thing to say.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me on your show.
Absolutely.
And thank you for sharing your insights and your interesting life story, a bit of it here.
And, you know, it's kind of fun to go in these different directions for change.
You never know what's going to come out of it.
Sure.
That's right.
All right.
Thank you, everyone, for watching.
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