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Feb. 25, 2025 - Project Camelot
01:51:53
KERRY INTERVIEWS JUAN O SAVIN
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Thank you.
Okay.
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm very happy to be here today.
So I have a very illustrious guest today with me, Juan O-Savin, as he calls himself, or Juan Q-Savin, which is another way of thinking about him.
Or John John, or whatever you want to go by.
Well, no, Juan.
You know, the actual history there is that I had a number that was assigned to me, 107, and so in kind of an unusual situation, I had to dodge and dive rather quickly, and so Juan, his 07, was The name of choice.
So I've gone by that for decades and certainly written under that name for decades and then done my presentations.
And so that's just the history.
Okay.
Now, I don't know if you got a chance to look at what I wrote in Telegram.
I didn't.
I'm sorry.
I've been...
Preparing.
As you know, I have something going on in the background, and I invited you to it.
I've got quite a few other people showing up, and so there was a little urgency to get that prepared because people have to make travel arrangements.
And so I was kind of preoccupied, so I apologize.
No, it's no worries, although maybe you're going to wish you had.
So, you know, I have a lot of questions.
If you're familiar with my style or anything, I'm certainly familiar with yours.
Well, no, I've followed the Project Camelot stuff over the years, and you guys do outstanding stuff.
And so I'm kind of aware of things going on there, and that's why I agreed to do the interview with you.
Excellent.
Okay, thank you.
So basically...
What I'd like to do is kind of look at that.
And if you want to look at it, actually, I'm going to bring it up on the screen here.
What I've done is I pasted sort of some of my thoughts into my website, as well as it's on Telegram.
So people can go over there, and I'm going to bring it up here.
The bottom line is, I would like to talk to you.
I know people talk to you about all sorts of things, and I want to say I love your movie, The Called, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
Jennifer Mack did an unbelievable job putting that together, and especially on very short notice, very few people could have accomplished what she did there.
So, yeah, that's fantastic.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I just want to highly recommend that for my audience, which I have done, but I just want to make sure.
Now, so I've got this webpage up here, and so maybe this is the first time you're seeing this, but somebody sent me this.
I'm assuming it might be true, but it looks like it's talking about something that happened right after the Civil War.
Can you see that on the screen here?
And so basically talking about anyone who declares a suspension of constitutionality, guaranteed rights to freely travel, assemble, earn a living, freely worship, attempts to enforce such suspension within the 50 independent continental United States of America is making war on our Constitution and therefore we the people.
And it goes on.
So that goes for governors and presidents.
And so I just wanted to bring that up there because I think that obviously we're in a state of war.
And I know you know that.
And I just want to acknowledge that you know.
You know a great deal.
There's no doubt about it.
I just want to say that all the people out there, you are the one who is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so to speak.
I appreciate you saying that a lot.
Carrie, here's the deal.
We have a lot of people right now.
They're just hand-wringing down our space.
I don't want to poo-poo.
That the angst is unwarranted or overwrought or whatever.
I mean, this really is a fight to save the country.
You know, people say it in kind of a cliche way, you know, for the soul of the nation or something like that.
But the reality is, look at what you just posted there that we read just a moment ago.
Everything that's being done to America right now is classically...
An American.
It destroys America.
Part of the reason America works is because, let's say, free travel.
In order for commerce to happen, people to do this exchange of labor, to move goods, you have to have this freedom to crisscross back and forth on a moment's notice.
I travel extensively, and my travel plans...
Modify minute to minute.
The event that I mentioned to you a few minutes ago that I invited you to, the decision to do that came up less than 24 hours ago.
And now I've got people flying in from all over the country to attend that on a moment's notice.
The event that hinges off of, which was another thing that I needed to be in town for, that was scheduled.
Just three days ago.
And so, you know, guys are getting on their jets and they're flying in and we're having a powwow on some stuff.
And it only took minutes to make the decision.
Yes, let's go ahead and do this and we'll pull in the extra people.
And then I, you know, when I invited you, that was because...
I have enough room, and I want to have some of the influencers get a chance to do it, and you have proximity to that event.
So it was a courtesy type of a thing.
But that rapidity with which we can pivot and decide and do things here in America, that's not available in a lot of other places, as crazy as it sounds.
It can be as simple as logistics.
We have cars we can jump in and go.
We have airlines we can climb on and rocket across the country in a few minutes' notice.
Well, actually, I mean, it used to be the case that we could do that, yes.
That's what made America work.
What these people are trying to do is throttle us down that are in these positions of control.
This is not the first time.
I remember back in the 70s.
When these power players, these families working together, suddenly we have an oil crisis.
It was a concocted event.
There was a shutdown in the flow of oil coming out of the Mideast to force America to do things that these players wanted in the Mideast.
But at the end of the day, when you looked at it even more closely, it wasn't.
The Mideast oil that was even the issue.
It was the refineries here in the country.
So they were messing with us all along.
And this is a repeating theme where people are trying to twist us around to do their will here in America.
And anytime we get too productive, they want to move our production somewhere else.
Move our industry.
Move our plants.
Slow down America.
Jimmy Carter had us go to 55 and people almost went berserk.
And so they upped it to 50 miles an hour.
And then they upped it to 55 to throttle down the economy.
That's not done.
In a vacuum.
It's done as though, you know, it's for the good of America and this crisis.
They're constantly putting us in a crisis.
And these are concocted events.
And they're aimed at America.
It's just like the greening of the world.
A pollution crisis and carbon dioxide and everything else.
The reality is, yes, we have lots of things that need to be managed.
We don't want to live in a polluted environment.
We want to clean this up.
But it's constantly done as though it's the end of the world and now it's the COVID. It's the end of the world.
Hey, since COVID started, how many people have died of the flu?
It's, you know, COVID cured the flu.
Come on, man.
No, no.
It didn't just cure the flu.
It cured cancer.
It cured everything.
And in fact, the death rate on all those other diseases has surprisingly gone down to zero just about.
And then you've got...
A spike in supposedly everything going to COVID. But even that, even those numbers are below, almost below the yearly numbers.
So something is afoot, as you know.
And, you know, that is one of my questions.
But I just want to draw you attention to this post so that we get this out of the way here.
And so basically...
What's at hand here is that Gene Decode and Michael Jaco just did, you know, you've been on Michael's show a few times.
Oh, yeah.
I communicated a few minutes ago, and he's coming to that same event I invited you to.
Excellent.
And Michael is a wonderful person, as is his wife, Tracy.
And, you know, and I'm sure that Gene Decode is a wonderful person as well.
Being on the front lines with the people sort of releasing everything that he can, assuming that most or if not all of his information is correct.
About, you know, going into the underground bases and getting the children and so on.
So the bottom line is that he made a statement saying, you know, talking about how these arrests are going on of certain individuals and how they are basically, you know, going before military tribunals and that they are going off to the moon, to prison.
And I'm just saying...
This is my issue, is that if this kind of thing is going on behind our backs, so the dark side works behind our backs, and now you guys work behind our backs.
And as a journalist representing the people, I got to say that enough with the secrecy, that I understand that...
There's some date.
Maybe it's March 4th.
Maybe it's not.
Maybe it's April 1st.
And kudos to you for not having been coming out with wrong information over these.
This year and a half or whatever you want to say that you've been out on the circuit, so to speak, and talking, and maybe it's even been longer than that.
But you haven't really steered anyone wrong, I don't believe.
Although some of these other people, maybe just out of wrong information or enthusiasm or whatever you want to call it, have said certain dates, certain things are going to happen.
And then nothing.
Okay, so I think that if we didn't hear people call wolf, we probably wouldn't be in the state we're in at the moment, speaking for the people in this way, that they and I and all of us want to see some pay dirt, something coming forward for people.
Where they can say, okay, you know, we've done our homework.
We're out there.
You know, you can see my face.
I'm here.
I'm vulnerable, right?
Someone can come any day they want.
I mean, I don't publish my address on purpose.
I've had at least two people stalk me and, you know, threaten.
I've got lots of threats and this and that.
But I'm here out in public and I understand.
Look, I'm not faulting the military for doing an incredible job.
Or for Trump, you know, having to deal with balancing these worlds of the light and the dark.
And, you know, I always liken it to the mob.
So how do you negotiate with the mob?
How do you prevent mutually assured destruction?
All of this is well understood by myself, and I talk to my audience all the time about this.
So that they might understand that Trump has had to play a very, walk kind of a tightrope these last four and a half years or more.
And is it five years now?
But anyway.
So what do you have to say?
Because, you know, this is the thing.
If we're going to have military tribunals and everything's going to be handled, you know, we are in a civil war.
Are you going to handle this behind our backs?
We're not going to be able to.
I'm worried as a journalist that the other side that is not watching this video today.
That's not paying any attention whatsoever to what we are saying, to the investigations that have been done, to the doctors, hundreds and thousands of doctors that have come forward protesting this fake science that is going on behind the COVID-19 shutdown and so on and so forth.
They don't watch this stuff.
So how are they going to believe if you come out all of a sudden and there's been no preamble whatsoever?
Sure, you've talked to us about it, you know, but that's not good enough, okay?
We need everyone to listen, right?
Everyone, not only in the United States, but around the world, because they're all sitting there with bated breath, or they were, hoping that Trump would come forward with something to show, you know, that they're real, that they're going into the dumbs and so on.
And don't say that the information is out there and so they need to do their homework.
That's not good enough.
In other words, these people, they're working people.
They're people that can't understand coding and secret codes like QAnon.
And QAnon's brilliant, okay?
But the bottom line is that QAnon had a role to play when Trump couldn't get...
On to the mainstream media.
But why couldn't Trump bring the alternative journalists, the honest journalists, forward and give this information out and show the photos and show the, you know, the documentation and back up everything that he's saying and doing?
In my view, okay, this is too little too late and we're right on the edge, okay?
Okay, I know I'm going on, so go ahead.
Okay, we've got some kind of...
Hello?
I think we're getting...
Oh, great.
Okay, there was some interference there.
We weren't hearing you.
Go ahead.
President Trump was responding and being very diligent.
When the reporters were asking literally asinine questions, he'd slow down and ask them to repeat themselves and let the world hear what they were really asking.
And then he also went to reporters that were asking more intelligent questions, pulled them out and gave them the extra time of day.
You know, you're limited somewhat.
I think one thing that you have to remember with President Trump, He is still just one office in many.
He is the president.
But he had...
Did I lose you there?
I saw something happen there.
No, no.
I'm showing people the screen here.
There's not much to look out with you because we've just seen a highway there.
I'm back on my information.
Go ahead.
Okay.
It's a situation where President Trump has gone to great effort to let the system do what it's supposed to do and allow the people to see the system working the way that it is currently designed to or agreed to or accepted to and show the inefficiencies, inequalities, the places where it's just plain wrong.
If he had just come in and manhandled it and just said, no, we're doing this, this, this, this, you know, he didn't operate like King.
He operated as a president, kind of a board of directors, allow the various players to bring their piece to the table.
I remember I was in a very serious crisis situation.
Everybody in the world was watching that was going on in a particular place.
And one of the key attorneys, the key attorney, stopped and he let everybody say their piece.
He and I had already had a conversation what we were going to do next, but he wanted to give them all a chance in case.
We missed anything.
We misunderstood anything.
Allowed them all to do the stuff from their various perspectives.
And then once we...
There was a couple things that we stepped aside and talked about after the fact.
But then we did what we had planned on in the first place.
We had kind of extra knowledge than all those various players had in the room at that time.
But we didn't know what we might not know.
Having everybody present, letting them all say their piece.
When we did act, nobody could say that we didn't act with the knowledge of what they might have presented.
We allowed them that courtesy and that opportunity.
And hello, cross the T's, dot the I's.
We might have missed something.
In this current situation, let's just go with that.
The military is the final safety, the final net to keep us from freefall, from having some complete, total, utter disaster.
And so are there safeties before that?
Yes.
You have the Constitution.
You have a play guide.
You have...
The playbook.
You have Congress, who has all these members, these representatives, and the senators to, you know, look towards and protect the interests of the American people, make sure the laws are followed.
You have the judiciary as a cross-check to make sure that things are done correctly, and even the president.
But at the end of the day, the final safety.
To protect and guard the Constitution as being enforced, that the people's contract with our government as being enforced, the protections that we come together to enjoy as a nation, a band of states, if you will, are protected.
When this is all done, nobody's going to be able to say that President Trump acted like king and just did a bunch of stuff and nobody agreed with it.
Well, no, he didn't.
In fact, when the end of that term came and the courts and the Congress had decided not to act and the states were barred from acting, the courts said they don't have standing and blah, blah, blah.
Didn't hear cases timely.
They're now all the way to the 19th after the election matters finished and somebody's come into office.
Well, all of those things happen.
That means that the final authority to hand over the keys to protect the borders has fallen to military commanders and to the military in the more generic sense.
They didn't actually become the final safety until the swearing-in ceremony occurred and the ritual of handing power over to this elected person.
Was sealed.
At that point, supposedly any congressional action to protect the country from a Manchurian candidate or somebody who'd been falsely put into that position had passed.
The court's opportunity to intervene had passed.
The civilian side of the operations that are...
Buffers, safeties against external control, enslavement, influence.
The civilian side of those safeties had essentially been passed.
And now the military personnel who actually...
We have the keys, the controls to run our nuclear safeguards, to deploy military defenses against other, you know, the Constitution provides, and this agreement between the people and the states and our government provides for police protection from those who would steal from us from within, who would violate our rights from within, neighbors, friends, relatives, co-workers, businesses.
It's an internal policing operation.
That's what the Constitution provides for, is for internal protection against any unlawful activity to damage our person or our property.
And externally, we have a military protect us from other nations or other groups that would come from outside our country, To steal or to enslave us or to control us.
So policing within, a military without.
In this particular case, what was presented on the 19th, late by a month, was this federal investigation.
That was based on the executive order from September 12th, the 10th or 12th of 2018. That executive order that ordered that there be all the intelligence agencies, all 16 intelligence agencies,
plus the 17th, which is the Director of National Intelligence Office that coordinates the other 16. You know, like NSA, CIA, National Connaissance Office, etc., FEMA. The various services that protect the country, all of them had to report.
The director of national intelligence, he creates a report, says, is there any foreign interference in our election?
That's what the executive order talks about.
That was supposed to be presented 45 days after the election.
It wasn't presented because the agencies weren't giving.
Their information timely and they were arguing over what they were going to say because, hello, they found evidence of foreign interference.
And they were trying to couch how they were going to say it in such a way that it wouldn't trigger certain types of legal activity or policing and military activity.
They finally presented a month late on January 19th, the day before President Trump is supposed to step down, National Popcorn Day.
And now you've got, you know, 24 hours for any kind of congressional or judicial action to pause, halt, reverse what happened with the national vote.
That didn't happen.
Now the keys are handed over.
The inauguration happens.
President Trump left office.
He is no longer...
You can say, well, he's acting like President, you know, at a distance.
Well, Obama was guilty of that.
Other, you know, that may have been true after he left.
But President Trump, you know, while he's met with some people here and there, it's not like he's wielding some club and demanding certain actions.
He's still trying to reserve his legal rights to contest the election.
And of course, they're trying to bog him down with this impeachment again.
Okay.
I understand this.
Okay.
And I think my viewers understand this.
We know this history.
We're watching everything very carefully.
And we do understand that, you know, they came in late.
Nonetheless, at that point, it's just as what I showed you that.
That in essence, yes, the military does step in.
They have stepped in, as far as we know, although it's not being announced.
So we're in a situation where we have a farcical government issuing all kinds of ethics and nonsense.
And let's see, did I lose you?
Hello?
Okay.
All right.
I think I might have lost him.
Hello?
Are you there?
Okay.
Wow.
That's interesting.
All right.
Okay, everyone.
Stand by.
I hope he will come back in.
We seem to have lost him.
And somehow.
That doesn't surprise me.
I'm sure certain people don't want an actual honest discussion to take place between me and Juan, but let's give it some time or a few minutes and see if he will be able to come back in.
The thing does allow him to call me back.
I could try him on the phone.
Let me text him.
Okay, so let me just put this on the screen.
So if you haven't already gone to my website and read or been on my Telegram and seen the statements I made there that are very clear and basically basis for our discussion today, go ahead and do that.
I'm going to text him and see if his phone somehow lost.
the connection or what's what's all behind that so just stand by hope
everything's okay there
um um
um Okay, so I'll just scroll through this document here that basically, and maybe I should just read it while we wait and hope that Juan is going to...
I have texted him.
I've been texting back and forth all day, so I know that he gets my text.
So unless...
Maybe the military broke in, didn't like the fact that I was questioning the fact that they're not announcing that they are in charge, but he is saying they are in charge.
So that's at least a good thing to hear.
So bottom line, I'm asking how much longer the COVID-19 thing is going to go on.
See if we knew the military were in charge, if indeed they would own up to that, then they could at least stop this nonsense with regard to You know, the current by Biden saying that we're going to have to do this and that with regard to COVID because I know everyone's sick of that and we don't want any more of that to go on.
And then I was listening to Gene Decode and actually, hold on, I've just got a text.
Okay, he's changing outlets.
He had some kind of technical problem.
So I was listening to just a new video done by Michael Jaco and Gene Decode, in which they were talking, you know, Gene was going on about the rescuing of the children in Washington, D.C., in the underground bases.
And this, of course, is something that Gene has been testifying to people all along.
And I basically started asking questions because I'm kind of fed up with the way.
I'm totally on side with Trump and the team.
However, I believe that we, as the people, have a right to give our input on tactics.
And I understand it's a military operation now, so they may not want to listen to civilians.
But if they don't listen to the people, Then we're going to be in trouble because the people need to have a say in what happens to our government.
And if we go back to the original posting here, the bottom line is these people work for us.
That includes the military, okay?
They're there because we put them there.
So if we put the military in charge...
All right?
Then they need to report to us.
And I'm saying they're not reporting to us, okay?
And so we have General Flynn, and I understand he's just doing his job, and he's denying that they're in charge on a sort of mainstream-type person.
Doug Billing, I think, Billings.
Relatively mainstream, as I understand it, on his show.
And then that was all excused because Flynn is military and he can't actually reveal their tactics.
But if they're in charge, they're in charge.
And if they're working for us, then we need to know about it.
I think this farce with Biden is not...
It's going on too long.
And I understand they have a date, but why should we wait?
Excellent.
So he's back.
Okay, are you there?
All right.
I'm so glad you made it back.
Yeah, I apologize.
That was very, you know, I don't normally have these issues, but today was kind of a problem.
So I apologize.
No worries.
But anyway, I don't want to ramble.
I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page.
That's why I repeated what I said earlier.
So go ahead.
Oh, no worries.
It's, you know, I'm really glad you're back on.
These kinds of things do happen with Project Camelot as I tend to ask the hard questions.
The question on the table is if the military is in charge and we see that there is some evidence that that's true, events around the White House, troops that may or may not be reporting to Biden, the word on the street is they're not, and so on.
But we can't go by the word on the street as being something that the whole United States and the rest of the world...
I mean, in other words...
I understand that there's these dates out there like, oh, wait until March 4th or wait until whatever date.
But I'm saying right now, if the military is working on behalf of the people and they have taken control as per this document that I had just put on the screen in the Constitution saying that if such and such happens and we...
We, the people, know that there's been foreign interference in the election.
Then the military is perfectly legally taking control.
Then it's not our problem that Biden doesn't get it.
That's not our problem.
It shouldn't even be the military's problem in the end of the day.
They just simply are taking control.
And there's some evidence of that.
There's some votes, I think.
You know, ships or whatever on the left coast and the, you know, the right coast, you know, Pacific.
And we're in a state of heightened, one would say, emergency or whatever you want to call that.
Readiness.
All right.
And so evidence is out there, yes, but no announcement has been made.
And yet the whole world, I think, is arguing right now over whether our military is in charge or Biden is in charge.
And I don't see why deceiving the world about that issue is doing anyone any good at this point.
No, no, no.
I think it's a misunderstanding.
The military, at the moment that the swearing-in took place, then the responsibility switched to them within their zone.
Of military assets, deployments, activities to hand over the keys.
But then they also had this knowledge from the report that was provided on the 19th concerning foreign interference.
And that report shows that there was foreign interference in our election.
That's what it showed.
By multiple parties.
Now the point is this.
The military had to do its own internal audit assessment evaluation.
They did not rely on these civilian...
And other authorities, blended intelligence agency and military authorities, reports as provided in that report as an exclusive determination of what was going on.
They then began, because it fell to the military to hand over the keys to the jet, the helicopter, the beast car, the launch codes, etc., to the incoming president.
At that moment in time...
Because all the other safeties had been passed.
The checkpoints had been passed.
They'd gone past all of the stuff stopping you from driving off the end of the bridge that wasn't finished.
Then they began their own internal assessment to evaluate, vet, verify, cross...
Check.
All the information in that report with their own internal investigative material that is military intelligence generated that isn't necessarily shared with anybody else.
And that process, because there's no missiles flying that exact second, they didn't have three minutes to make a decision.
They had the luxury of...
Completely checking and cross-checking.
Why?
Because if anybody there makes a misjudgment, a misstatement, acts on false or incomplete information, then they would be subject to military justice also.
People would be crossing, second-guessing them.
So all of those military senior personnel have to then independently...
Verify that that information in that report is accurate and or any additional information they have.
So what's been happening since that 20th date is an internal evaluation and a bit of a struggle because you have players that see things differently and want to rush to judgment or to action.
Not to proceed that way.
Remember, Cheyenne Mountains closed up tight as a drum.
Has been since last...
Wait one second.
I've heard you say that on other shows.
What does that exactly mean, closed up?
There are people in there, right?
Yes.
And it is not open for ingress and egress.
It is a sealed off under the mountain city, if you will.
Like in a state of war.
It is as though it were in a state of war as a safety and has been since last March.
Those personnel so that they couldn't be exposed to any bioweapon or COVID or whatever that could incapacitate their ability to operate, to defend the country, to essentially launch various types of...
Attacks or responses to attack in case of an attack against America.
And of course, you can have lots of different types of attacks.
My contention is, the contention of many involved, is that we were attacked weapons by, you know, war by another means.
A digital war against America.
A cyber attack.
A cyber Pearl Harbor.
Yes.
Okay.
Along those lines, the evidence is very, very clear.
I think that the people that Trump assigned to do the job did a good job.
It's come out in the press for people that wanted to see it, the alternative press, more than, of course, anything else.
And so that we know that that information is correct.
In other words, they've got the machines.
And not only that, but Trump and his team, it's not like they woke up yesterday and thought, oh, my God, the election was stolen.
They even knew it was going to be stolen.
In fact, there's some evidence that, in fact, Trump was saying for years.
Maybe even four years, it was going to be stolen because it's always been stolen.
So the military didn't just wake up yesterday and have to look at evidence.
They were following the trail along with Trump, obviously, and so on.
So we cannot pretend that they suddenly had to wake up on the 19th or whenever the date was.
And say, okay, here's evidence.
Oh, my God, how shocking.
No, they were on it the whole time.
Now, I do understand that we have splits in the military.
That may be the issue that we're having.
Maybe that's why they haven't come forward in reality to state that they are in control and that Biden is not who he says he is, etc., etc.
You know what I'm saying?
In other words, let's not pretend that we don't know, that the whole world doesn't know, that the evidence has been out there.
We've heard about Trump talking about this for years, and then it happened.
So they were following the trail.
What I think is not understood by a lot of people, while a certain percentage of us may see things this way, and there's been evidence, it's been argued, etc., that's not a universal understanding.
That's not something that is absolutely accepted on the numbers, high enough numbers to have tipped the scale, let's say, two years ago or four years ago.
The contention was that there was cheating going on both in the 2016 and the 2018 election.
And there was lots of documentation of that.
But once again, the courts and Congress failed to act to stop it.
And even the executive branch, President Trump issued the executive order, ordering federal investigative tools and intelligence agency tools, all the intelligence agency assets to, to focus on identifying any foreign interference in the election.
Well, so they've been doing that, but in the executive branch, while they can react to things and do certain things, The process trying to get a judicial and congressional action to stop this foreign interference was not successful.
It did not fall to the military to act, even if they were aware, until the keys were scheduled to be handed, until the authorities were scheduled to be handed for the military to come under.
The control of this person, this representative that was supposedly elected in the fall election.
So at that moment, then, while they had a responsibility to assist in providing data, etc., when it came to the point of actually having to hand over the keys, That triggered certain responses internally.
Now, there was preparation for that, and I think you can argue that Cheyenne Mountain being closed up, this control facility, and similar.
It's representative of other facilities that have similar responsibilities and capabilities.
It's just a more visible one.
And so, at that moment, that Decision to begin to act in a protective stance and to begin to, you know, decide whether or not to do these things fell into play.
What they have done is they have allowed certain functions to be essentially handed over, if you will.
We had some forces that moved to northern Syria and things like that in a very symbolic sense.
Dozens.
Of executive orders signed.
Well, the military can't stop them from doing that.
And in fact, I would contend that, you know, go back to the Civil War.
You had Jefferson Davis presidency at the same time you had a Lincoln presidency.
So there was a battle over whose authority was the true actual authority over the states.
Somewhat what's happening here right now.
We have a similar situation that the groundwork is being laid.
How would the military act?
First off, President Trump isn't wielding power as though he's president.
He's in Mar-a-Lago.
He has stepped down.
You can't throw any stones at him as though he is...
Gripping onto the presidency and won't leave the White House and won't give up the suitcase and the military is being forced to back Trump or not.
He's not saying anything of the sort.
The military is doing this internal gymnastics, bending around trying to decide what they're going to do.
In the meantime, they're not fully handing over the keys to the other side.
How soon would they have to do that?
Is there going to be some crisis, some event that's going to accelerate forward the military's internal assessment and valuation?
Just like we see stuff take time to go through the courts.
It takes time to go through Congress.
Everybody has to present their case.
Behind the scenes, what's being done inside the military that is not public knowledge for a reason.
We're under a threat.
If it's a digital war or a biological war, if there's threats on our coastlines, if there's troops in Canada and offshore that are waiting to be called in by the UN to assist, by people asking the UN to have them come and assist, then the military has some triggers that if they see them advance further, would just like seeing...
Hot launches coming in, missiles coming in, a decision or a go or no-go might fall to a military commander to make that decision in a matter of minutes.
But they have the luxury of taking the time to cross the T's and dot the I's, and that's exactly what they're doing right now, because while there are looming threats, they're not instant threats.
And I would contend that probably what we're going to see is something that accelerates this here shortly because the players that want this, the globalists that want this power handed over need a pretense,
a pretext to create a sense of crisis across the world in which The military's hand is forced to move along, move along, get this done, and hand the power over it because we're under some instant type of a threat.
They may get a response that they didn't expect if that's what happens.
You could have it over Taiwan.
You could have it over something in Syria or Iran or some other small localized event, you know, a Cuban Missile Crisis type thing somewhere else in the world.
I don't know that that's what's going to happen, but that And the Biden administration, if you watch the things that you're referring to, things like...
Biden using Air Force Two to go up to Delaware.
Excuse me, Dover Air Force Base is up in Delaware.
If you want to go to Delaware, you could have taken Air Force One.
Why didn't they take Air Force One?
Oh, the runway was too small.
They needed a smaller jet.
Oh, okay.
And did you see the suburban that they...
Took Biden over there in.
Shoot, it looked like it came, you know, from a used car lot, but it was from the turned inside, not from the polished up side.
You know, they didn't even clean it after they got it from the customer that traded it in.
All grimy and slimy and everything else.
Guy standing there in his jeans waiting to let the president out.
Something didn't look right there and everybody knows it.
Why?
Because, you know, you're seeing indications something's wrong.
The White House lights going off on a timer at 11 o'clock at night every night.
Nobody's home.
The keys, look, you can argue whether anybody knows what's going on.
The military doesn't have to tell you what's going on.
If we're under a national threat, there's a national security issue.
You know, you can want to know everything.
Well, tough.
You don't get to know.
Okay.
And they're not going to tell you what their...
Well, I mean, let's talk about this, though.
Let's talk about the people and whether they need to know or they don't need to know.
So do we need to know when we're under threat?
And when do we need to know?
I think we know that we're under threat.
And the question is...
You and I know that.
I'm not so sure that all those people that are not watching this kind of thing...
Know anything about it.
In other words, I think they're in la-la land and they think, you know, that Biden is taking control of the presidency like a normal president and they don't.
They're not paying attention to the signs the way we do.
They're not analytical.
And some of them may just be drinking beer and watching TV, as they normally do, and so on and so forth.
But that doesn't mean we're not in danger.
It doesn't mean their children are not in danger every single minute of every single day with the predator still on the loose, okay?
I've been in aircraft when we've had an in-flight emergency at speed at altitude and had to dive down to get below 14,000 feet where oxygen and temperatures weren't going to kill people very quickly.
The pilot did not waste time and actually more than one did not waste time.
Comforting the passengers and telling them, you know, we're having a light go off up here and it looks like we might have a crisis and we'll get back to you in a minute, but everything's fine.
You don't waste time doing that.
You can tell something doesn't feel right.
You can see it.
But at that instant.
It's not about making everybody feel good.
It's about protecting their life, sticking with the emergency at hand, and then you can explain what's going on after the fact, for the moment.
The deployment of the oxygen masks is somewhat automatic if it reaches a certain point.
The stewardesses can tell people what's going on.
They're not in the cockpit.
They're not seeing it directly.
They just know what's going on.
They have certain protocols.
At this instant, knowing every last aspect of what the threat is and what the evaluations are and who's having the discussion is not necessarily in their protocols.
It may not feel nice.
It may not be what we want.
I'm not asking for that.
I'm talking as a real journalist, asking what is the status?
All I want to know is, are you in charge or aren't you?
It's one question.
It's not 20. It doesn't have to do with whether or not there's some niceties involved or what you're doing about the crisis.
All I want to know is, why is it that we have a country?
That has a farcical president and it's been going on now for, I don't know, since he was inaugurated, whatever day that was.
So, you know, all I'm saying is time is wearing thin and I think you know that too.
We are not asking, we, meaning the journalists that are with me and the other humans out there are not saying, tell us your military secrets.
We don't care to know, actually.
But the reality is, all we want to know is, You know, has a president stepped down legally?
Has a new president been elected as is being demonstrated on television every day in front of our faces?
Or is there a completely different situation afoot?
And if the military is in charge, if we have a military government here in the United States, however temporary it may be, then it's all I'm saying is simply announce it.
I understand that what I'm saying here doesn't mean much.
But I am saying that this is kind of the discussion.
Let's kind of move on with this.
Because I also have questions on this document that I was showing everyone and that I've published and I put on Telegram.
And I wish you'd seen it ahead of time because you might have been prepared for it.
That's life.
So what I'm saying is the battle is going on.
We know everyone in the world knew there was incredible tension over whether...
Trump was going to be able to sort of save the day and come forward.
Now we're still waiting.
Some of us, a lot of people, as you even demonstrated and others have, you know, there were turncoats during that time.
There are people who changed sides at the last minute and went against Trump.
We've seen all that.
You know, there have been a lot of traitors in our midst that have come forward even since Biden was, you know, sworn in and so on and so forth.
But the bottom line is, is that this issue of, of trials.
So now they're according to gene decode.
Now you can say he's wrong.
You can say he's not telling the truth or maybe his information is wrong.
If there are military tribunals taking place, if Zuckerberg, Hillary, all these people are supposedly the Pope, are really arrested, if trials are taking place, Do you really think sending these people to the moon and prison on the moon is going to be sold to the American people?
Do you think that they're going to believe you if you come forward and say that after the fact?
I mean, is this even logical?
I appreciate they may be doing it, so maybe you can answer the question.
Is this going on?
Do you really think military tribunals out of the view of the public is the answer?
There's no secret rapture.
The reality is, as this proceeds, in order to actually serve the purposes of cleansing our government of these They
have to go through public trials.
They have to be seen in a public sense in a Nuremberg type of an environment where The facts are brought out in open court in most situations.
There's some aspects that will not be disclosed, but enough of it can be disclosed so that there's clarity.
There's no question as to the need and the validity of their prosecution.
And saying that they're being, you know...
Doubles and trolls and everything else.
There's occasions where that might be necessary.
That is not everything and that's not what's going to happen here.
It would be a disservice to the American people and a disservice to the world.
It would be un-American to do that in mass in this way.
That's the way these other countries operate.
That's not us.
And the American people won't stand for that.
That is not going to work here.
That's exactly what they had in mind against the American people with their throw us all into prison camps.
That's what they're sitting there talking about right now.
We've all got to be arrested because people showed up in Washington, D.C. and had a peaceful assembly.
To make their grievance known before Congress as they related to this vote situation, this whole theater of, I mean, go to the movie The Called, you've seen it in the movie.
There you see 14 blocks of people, long city blocks, all the way from the Trump Hotel to the steps of Congress.
Those people are pushing baby carriages.
They're carrying babies.
They're smiling.
They're singing church hymns, saying the Lord's Prayer.
There's reporters interviewing people on the street in the open.
That crowd didn't come there to riot.
Some infiltrators came there to riot.
Some people supposedly representing the rest of us came there to riot.
But that wasn't...
In mass, people, you count the number there, two, three dozen, you see them waving people in and pointing here and there.
They act just like Antifa.
They got their backpacks and everything else.
That wasn't the majority of that crowd.
There was a million people out there.
And a tiny, itsy-bitsy handful of them.
Where's the green screens where they did all of this, putting this together, and they suddenly discover all this footage off the cameras that...
It just appears out of, you know, where?
Amazon Studios?
You know, so the long and short of it is we're not going to be doing the same thing in reverse with show trials.
They're going to be real trials, and there's going to be real evidence.
The American people are going to have to come to grips with what they see.
But it's not going to be done in some...
Secret situation.
And that's what they're also afraid of.
When this happens, it'll be very public.
And also, the things haven't happened sooner, but you've heard all of these rumors and suspicion.
There's trolling going on from both sides.
Getting the other side to act because they think something's going to happen all of a sudden or they think somebody did something or got picked up or whatever and they're double-checking and everything, you know, they're shaking in their boots too.
There's a lot of risk going on here for both sides.
If we did anything wrong, if, for example, Trump, just like, you know, a few words in an open press conference to the world, they twisted around like he incited a riot.
Right.
He waited.
Did they know?
They knew there was threats.
But we don't do pre-crime in America.
They knew there was threats.
He held off into the news conference.
Those guys set their clocks, their watches.
You know, okay, everybody synchronize your watches.
Okay, we're all going in at this time.
The president's going to start speaking here.
He'll be done about there.
And then we're going in.
You know, whatever he says.
Well, they synchronized watches, went in.
Shoot, the president hadn't even hardly started what he was saying.
You're going to say they went in there because the president incited them?
No, he invited us all here.
Well, he says right in his presentations, you know, peaceful assembly, you know, go home peacefully.
You know, he didn't incite a riot.
They can twist it any way they want to.
That's not what happened.
And the American people, the world is having to see what's said there and see the fallacies of what these people purport.
That he said there.
And now we have, you know, a public decision.
As the rest of the facts come out of what happened, as the rest of the facts of the coordination behind the scenes of these people, including congressional people who were coordinating what they said with Antifa, all the way back to these riots in other cities and capitals, you know, eventually that is going to come out.
And it may not come out right now in Congress.
Because those congressional people are aware of the reports.
They know what they did themselves.
It may come out in a Gitmo type of a setting because the military has this last safety position.
And again, even with the military, you want to say the military is not acting fast enough.
Well, because Congress has another impeachment thing going on, there's additional evidence going on.
Rather than somebody coming out and saying, I'm in charge here, and I'm making decisions, and it amounts to what appears to be a coup.
And people say, well, we don't want civil war, we don't want civil war.
Well, neither does the military.
So they're allowing the civilian side to exercise every last possible function that it has in the legislative and the judicial branches.
To make sure that they haven't missed anything.
But this is going to come to a close shortly.
And then decisions will have to be made.
Those decisions may be accelerated by some external event around the world.
And then the whole world would have to see.
Congress would have to admit.
They would have to assert.
The military is not handing over control.
We need you as an assistance because the military is doing a coup and we need to be saved or something.
Well, whatever it might be.
I don't say that's what's going to happen.
I would just say that that's a possibility.
But something is going to accelerate this and force a decision that the American people are going to be aware of.
The whole world is going to be aware of.
It won't be done in the dark.
And we will know that either Biden is in control or isn't in control.
He could still remain president in name and the military still say, and we're not handing over the keys because we're evaluating this ourself, we could be left in some kind of a lurch for months.
The military could come back and say, we see that Trump is president and factions inside don't agree with that.
You could have a Lincoln, Jefferson Davis, Dual presidency, even out into the year way beyond April 1st.
All I've said is that there is money that has been set aside that has been prepaid December 10th of last year for what is categorized as an inaugural event on March 4th through 6th.
And that money that was set aside was to put up Barriers and fencing for an inaugural event.
Now, we don't inaugurate people for the Supreme Court.
We don't inaugurate into office congressional people.
So what else could it be?
It doesn't say an inauguration event for any specific person or thing other than just that generic sense.
So why was that money set aside?
Something's up.
The fence hasn't come down, the barriers haven't come down.
All right, then there's pre-knowledge, on the Trump side at least.
But, okay, let's talk about what's going on behind the fence in Washington, D.C. And the fact that, again, Gene D. Code, because he just came, has talked about this at length with Michael Jaco, saying that they're going into the bases under Washington, D.C., finding...
You know, rescuing children and dealing with that situation and that it's, as he put it, worse than Australia.
It would make Australia look like a picnic where they supposedly went into underground bases in Australia.
Now, you know, this is, again...
They're fences.
They're troops.
Something's going on.
It's even in question, of course, we think that Biden was in Castle Rock in L.A. in a studio instead of, you know, in Washington, D.C. So what we're asking, what I'm saying here is that the demonstration here is that something's going on behind that fence and that the people are not allowed to know.
So if it is rescuing children.
Again, why not let us know?
Why are the people the last to know?
Why do the secret services all know who you are?
What's going on in Washington?
All the secret agencies, all the militaries around the world probably know exactly what's going on in Washington, D.C. But again, the people are the last to know.
So we have a guy named Gene Decote who has the courage to come out.
He's either current or former military.
And he's stating this operation is going on there.
Okay?
And so I'm saying, you know, this is like a very concentrated little area.
We know it's going on.
And we also know that aliens are involved.
So when you say that we're in a situation where they have the luxury to decide this and to decide that and so on.
I'm really wondering when we have a takeover, you know, COVID, when people are being inoculated by force, by, you know, and also by deception across the United States, across the world right now, and they're taking into their bodies nano AI that is going to link them to the Borg, in essence, is going to...
Change their mRNA and be able to mutate their genetics without their control.
This sounds like a dangerous...
Place for humans to be in.
So every day matters.
My friend's parents just went up for their second vaccination.
They're so deceived.
And I'm saying, this is dangerous.
People are dying every day of these vaccines, these false vaccines.
This is dangerous for humans.
More humans are dying, and we are not being led into the loop.
You're not even talking.
Trump doesn't have to be president to hold a press conference.
He can hold as many press conferences as he wants in Mar-a-Lago.
And you just said we can have two presidents.
Well, indeed, we do have two presidents.
Because if legally he should not be stepping down, if we had foreign interference in the election, and if he actually...
Won, and the evidence shows that he won, and the military decides that he won, then the military doesn't even have to be in control.
They can come out and state they've reviewed the evidence, and this is their position, and we have Trump is still the president, and he was rightfully elected, and so and so forth.
In other words...
You know what I'm saying here.
So we are in a dangerous situation.
I'm not so sure the military has leisure, and I'm not even sure that we should be waiting for some false flag in which they have to come forward and do something, you know, dramatic in this instance.
If you're rescuing children in Washington, D.C., why are the people the last to know?
Well, again, with any military or policing operation, there have to be decisions made.
People weigh out.
The public's need to know the relevance.
There are certain protocols that require that they make public certain things in certain ways and times, etc.
But at the end of the day, I'm not going to second guess.
For the time being.
The choice is on the timing.
The military personnel have a very, very, very weighty series of decisions that they've had to make.
And they're not minor.
And the fate, not just of the military or America are at stake.
It's a planetary thing.
The whole world pivots off of this next series of decisions.
When would they make that public?
Well, again, if congressional people know that something's not right, they're not saying it.
Why?
Because they're under a certain type of a threat.
They're sold out.
They're doing theater.
There's other issues going on here.
That unfortunately, we may not be fully aware by design, but it won't last much longer.
This isn't going to be the same case a year from now.
If they have made a determination to hold, hold, hold for a little bit while they cross the T's and dot the I's and verify that they're on the right path to proceed in a particular way, and then remember it.
They, at some level, have already made a decision.
They haven't handed over certain authorities.
If you decide that a foreign enemy, foreign powers, have done a cyber attack on America, and you're now assessing how extensive is that attack and what are we going to be up against and how do we mount a response?
Coming up with the right plan, getting everything in position, verifying that you know what you know.
Look, this is for the whole planet.
You got one shot at this.
You might not get a second shot.
You don't go haphazard into a situation like this.
It's like landing at Normandy.
You can't land at Normandy in the way that we did in August.
Why?
Because the high tide is in June.
That's when you got it.
You have a high tide in July.
You have a high tide in August, but now you don't have the summer months to work through.
You got snow.
You got water, wet.
You have mud bogs.
You don't get as high a tide to get in past some of the things, the obstacles they put in play to get far enough up the beach.
There's only certain places that you can land and build your beachhead at.
So the military, I would contend that almost certainly they have determined that, first of all, foreign entities interfered in the election, but that's only the first question.
Was the foreign interference substantive enough, broad enough, that it in fact flipped the election?
If they've decided that.
which I believe they have.
Then the third question is, and how do we respond to it?
The military is required first to protect the Constitution and the Republic and the people from enemies, foreign and domestic.
Protect first.
They're taking action there.
Then their next thing is as quickly as possible, as quickly as safely possible to reinstitute civilian authority, lawful civilian authority over the lawful civilian authority over the government of the United States.
So who would they pick?
How would they come to that decision?
Is it another election?
Or is it, hey, the data is so conclusive in the election we just had that the real president that was re-elected or elected was President Trump?
And then how do you put him into office?
What's the sequence?
Well, those are all discussions.
Those may have a clear and obvious end result, but the sequence you go through to do that might not be as clear as people think.
It's like saying you can't impeach a president or you can't.
Well, there's a whole bunch of attorneys who have different opinions.
You'll have that in this kind of a situation too.
So it is a discussion, and it may not be as locked in stone as people would like to think it is.
And the circumstances may vary somewhat.
So as they go through these checkpoints, and then they decide, okay, We got to put President Trump back in, but we want to wait for the civilian aspects of what Congress is doing to complete, to make sure we haven't missed something, something else isn't presented, and also to find out who's acting treasonously in a traitorous fashion on behalf of somebody else to try and hold this outcome.
Who are the rest of the traitors that we need to weed out?
Because if you're under a military threat, if you're under a cyber attack threat, if you're under a foreign influence threat, and people are colluding from inside our government, inside of agencies, inside the political system, inside the judicial system, if they're compromised, you want to get them all.
You want to get the whole cancer.
So once you've made certain decisions, it then triggers other decisions.
And in the meantime, you're holding ground.
In a safe way, keeping troops on the ground, keeping equipment deployed in safe locations while you're going through all those checkpoints in preparation to respond to act.
Okay.
So that's what's happening, and you bring all of your resources in.
Also, get them staged.
You don't just go off half-cocked.
I hear you.
Okay, and I appreciate that.
Okay, so I know I'm kind of...
Raking you over the coals here a little bit here.
That's okay.
Don't take my tone as being adversarial to you, because honestly, you have a whole country full of people who are asking these exact questions.
I'm being a bit assertive and forceful on it, because I think we have to get honest about this, but in different ways.
Just because it seems like, well, we should know this stuff, and it should happen right away, and people should just put it out in the news.
People making these decisions are not that shallow.
They're doing it with a lot of weight on their shoulders to get it right.
I'm sure that all of us appreciate that.
In a sense, a lot of military families out there as well know procedures and protocols, etc.
I have two more questions for you and then I'll let you go.
One is...
When I look at this situation, I wonder to myself and sometimes out loud to my audience whether or not this is like a negotiation with the mob.
In other words, is there a negotiation going on?
It seems obvious that there would be with the other side, with the real representatives of the other side.
I'm not talking about the, you know.
The fakes in office and so on and so forth.
I'm talking about the people that are really pulling the strings behind the scene.
And some of those are, as we say, foreign, you know, interfering in our government in a foreign way, etc., with a certain vested interest in certain things.
And those may...
Also be aliens, okay, or motivated by aliens in my way of looking at things.
So what I want to know is, is there a negotiation going on?
Because when, you know, there's this thing about I was mentioning about making sure you don't have mutually assured destruction.
So just like in, you know, back in the days of the, you know, the nuclear war.
We have a situation in which, for example, the dark side could have said, okay, if Trump takes office...
We're going to nuke Washington or we're going to nuke all those soldiers, you know, because all those soldiers came in and there's like 30,000 of them in Washington.
They could use a particle beam weapon.
They could use Tesla tech.
All of this is at their disposal, just like it is at our military's disposal.
And our military, by the way, we know is split.
And that sort of ups the ante, if you will.
Have to square off, and they also have to be negotiating to some degree.
Otherwise, we would already not just be in a civil war, but be in something, you know, basically assured destruction, even from within the United States.
Because at this point, the two sides are so polarized that there's almost no answer if they aren't talking to some degree.
So would you say there's a negotiation going on?
That's the question.
Well, again, the question is, who's the negotiation with?
And I would tell you that it's these people that are globalist in their perspective that are aligning themselves together outside the interests of America solely, but only in this global sense.
And we're just a cog in their machine.
Where we don't have autonomy to make decisions with America's interests in mind, with American citizens' interests in mind.
We're just a cog in the machine.
We serve their purposes all over the world.
Our energy, our resources, our technology is there for their use, whether it helps us or not.
So we're just along for the ride.
Those globalists are the threat.
Okay, but we're not along for the ride.
Trump has made that very clear in his presidency, and he went about actually divorcing the United States from a lot of those agreements that we had previously been part of, although, you know, what's-his-face is trying to take those, you know, put them back again.
So, in fact, we are not at their beck and call, okay?
We are an independent entity, as you know, and therefore we can stand up and we are negotiating with them.
We have to be.
Well, but again, you asked who the mob is.
Who are we in this argument with?
I'm telling you who that group is.
No, I'm not asking.
No, I know who it's with, actually.
Right.
And so the question is, is we're having a negotiation with them?
Yes.
And the reality is, is that internally, this isn't about a civil war.
They would love for us to have a civil war, divide and conquer.
What this is is a revolutionary war.
These are external threats, and we're pushing back against those external forces that want to manage and control America.
They are trying to stop what Trump started, what he was at the head of, this vanguard to push back against the globalization.
The plugging in of America to other people's globalist ambitions and just make us a piece in their big puzzle and subjugate us to them.
And the hub of all of that activity, excuse me, sorry, it's the City of London.
And it's the royal families across the world, those 13 royal bloodlines.
President Trump embarrassed all of them when he stepped in front of the Queen over in England.
These are Commonwealth countries working together to manage America.
Okay, let me ask you, are they being blackmailed, in essence, by Trump?
Did he actually go around, as one pundit out there would have you believe, to every government?
Major government that is part of what we call the Illuminati, for lack of a better word, that includes England and the Queen.
Did he go around with an envelope, hand them an envelope showing that they were compromised, either, you know, via pedophilia or some other nefarious actions that would then become public if they didn't basically capitulate?
Has that been done?
Are you able to comment on that?
Well, again, you asked the question a moment ago, are we in some type of a negotiation?
We got things, they got things.
We're having a bit of fight over who's going to be in charge here.
And they think that they got us on the election and we couldn't stop them and Trump couldn't stop them.
And they got their guy in.
Are we negotiating or are we having a bit of tug of war?
And they've played their cards and the American people are now having to observe and see how this goes.
Our system is a captured operation.
Our civilian side in the congressional and the judicial is a captured operation.
And so now have we reached that last safety?
Yes.
And what will be the response?
They decide that, you know, they may not depose Biden.
He may run around and sign 4,000 executive orders.
But the military doesn't stand by him.
And then they say, no, Trump was legitimately elected president.
And so we're going to answer to Trump.
You could still have him.
We're going through the judicial process.
We're going to fight this.
We're going to stop.
Okay, well, that's on the civilian side, but you're not getting the keys to the jet and the plane and the missiles.
This could drag out for some time.
You could have some of those members that are clearly involved in collusion with enemy forces, banking entities, government entities, intelligence agency entities, End up being arrested and become part of the public trials.
This could take a while to wash through.
And you could still have a dual presidency for theater going on.
This isn't going to be over in a day or two.
And if you want to say aliens, well, excuse me, the royal families all believe that they're children of Cain.
They believe that Cain was the child of a union between Lucifer, Samuel, the devil, and Eve.
That's where the Cainite family comes from in their belief system.
Doesn't matter if you see it in the Bible or not, or you believe it or not.
It's what they believe.
And belief is the driver of action.
They don't think that they're merely human.
They think they're more than human.
And the devil, Lucifer, Satan, he's an alien.
He fell to earth.
Christ himself says he saw him fall like lightning to the earth.
Okay?
So she's...
If Eve is mated with an alien, you have the children of Adam and the children of Cain or the alien present here.
They talk about the reptilians.
The reptilians are amongst us and this alien race.
Yeah, they're laughing at you.
What's Satan, Lucifer, the devil, the snake?
It's a reptilian.
They're laughing at you because they think that they're hybrids.
Aliens in plain sight.
They are hybrids, of course.
We're also hybrids.
So they're not coming from outer space.
They're already here.
They fell to Earth.
Well, both.
But I don't think I'll take this interview to go down that road with you because I think that it would take many hours.
But bottom line, I have one other question.
And that is, if this situation is...
Let's talk a little bit about this pedophilia, the fact that you can't necessarily arrest and eradicate this wave that is basically going back to this Cain and Abel, if you want to look at it that way, to the individuals who have been taken over by the snake, if you want to call it that, who have basically...
Capitulated in some form or fashion or came in with DNA that was already hybridized.
In other words, maybe not even like consciously of their own choice, but they have these proclivities.
Those proclivities involve, you know, adrenochrome, drinking blood, Luciferianism, etc.
So you've got a whole group of the population, not just the leaders, okay?
And so you can't get rid of this.
Scrooge or whatever you want to call that, against humanity by arresting a few and killing a few.
That's not going to do it.
In other words, there has to be some kind of deeper understanding as to what has happened to the human race and how some of the human race have proclivities to want to eat.
Others.
And sexually abuse and live off the energy from the other humans.
So this is a reality.
This is what we're dealing with here on Earth.
Now, I know that in the public domain, none of this mainstream, of course, is talked about.
So they think, okay, you arrest a pedophile, you put him in prison, get him off the streets.
That's it.
Your job's done.
It's not done.
It's not done if you go after the royal family or the Pope or the reptilians under the Vatican.
You've got to eradicate them worldwide, but you can't get rid of all the humans.
There are kids right now being brought up.
You're rescuing the kids that are actually the victims, but there are Illuminati children being brought up under this.
This certain kind of teachings that involve suffering and so on to activate what is known as the Kundalini, the base of the spine, and yes, programming and BMK Ultra and you name it.
So, in other words, this has gotten into the education system.
The religions, you know, have taught this.
There are plenty of bloodthirsty, even...
Religions that people aren't even aware of it.
Certain religions, not naming names, have children that are married at a young age to some old man.
And this has been going on in their culture for decades, millions of years, really.
So, in other words, there is an education process that has to take place that hasn't even begun, basically.
Except for a few alternative people like myself that know the real story.
So I just wondered whether or not you have these discussions.
I imagine you are in the overall office, okay?
Now, you don't have to say you are if you don't want to and so-and-so, but I see you at that level.
I see you at that level having these discussions.
And so this is a very unique situation where I'm actually able to talk to you directly because it doesn't usually happen.
They usually shut me up in one form or fashion.
I'm just going to wonder whether or not you guys sit around and discuss this.
Does the military discuss the fact that arresting a few pedophiles is not going to solve the problem?
Well again, it goes back to even your original concern, are we acting fast enough?
Once you start down this road, you have to be very, very thorough.
To get it all.
You can't leave it here or there.
And even in beginning the process, it is a process not just to save victims, but also to get the perpetrators so that they don't pop up somewhere else.
There's a lot of intricacies here.
This is a culture, a crowd, that lives out of sight, that bury themselves in plain sight, right under your noses.
So, this time when people think no action is taking place, I can just tell you that a lot has taken place that's not necessarily in plain sight, but like any policing action.
Or military action.
There's lots of covert activities that take place for a period of time before it's brought out into the open.
A classic example is a pawn shop operation.
Police will open up a pawn shop.
They portend to the world that they're kind of loose on their standards and they, you know, if they don't have a clear understanding or somebody's a little sketchy, they'll still give them money.
They might give them a little bit more for unusual items that clearly the person that brought them in isn't the person that bought it.
And they document.
They've got a camera.
They've got the receipts.
They've got the fingerprints.
They've got everything.
And they give them some money and they send them out the door.
And they don't arrest them that second because what they're doing is they're running a pawn shop operation.
They're letting the word get out.
They're presenting themselves a certain way.
Over time, they get 100 people, 200 people that are criminals that they know are criminals.
They've done the background checks on.
They know they're bringing in stolen stuff.
They know the burglaries where they happened.
But they still don't pop them.
Why?
Because they're getting the rest of the data.
They're trying to get to the big guys that may be some particular target or targets that are more important.
It's the same thing in a drug state.
You got undercover and long-term drug undercovers.
You know, decades-long undercovers going on.
I have a friend that did it for decades in South America that we worked together on some stuff.
You think that he's a bad guy.
You know, Barry Steele was presented as a bad guy.
Oh, I don't.
Okay.
How do you get there?
Even his own wife thought he was a bad guy.
Well, you know, there's this...
So the long and short of it is, he should be a star on the wall when you know the rest of the story.
Right.
So the long and short of it is, and you can't get there unless you, for all the world, are the world's worst bad guy.
You don't get in that crowd.
Exactly.
There's a certain point in a pawn shop operation where you do have to shut it down.
You're not going to get enough more data, and the risk becomes greater and greater as time goes on, because what if one of those thieves, he's still out on the road, he's still got some money, he's being encouraged to go break into houses and get stuff, and the one time he breaks in, and there's the homeowner, and next thing you know, he got a shootout.
Or somebody gets, you know, injured somehow.
And are the police that ran the pawn shop operation liable?
Were they wrong?
Did they push it too long and bait somebody into going to do thefts that they wouldn't have otherwise done to endangering somebody, carjacking something?
That then, if they had just not run that pawn shop operation a little bit too long...
It wouldn't have happened.
And then death happens or injury happens because they were creating an opportunity.
It's a fine line.
It's a hard argument.
It's a person-by-person one.
Sometimes in a pawn shop operation, as has been going on over this last several months, certain players are just so dangerous that when you become aware of it, you may keep the pawn shop operation going, but you find another reason.
That they don't realize you identified them, tracked them, knew that this particular thing was a stolen good.
Don't identify and associate with the pawn shop operation directly.
But you go out and find a way to arrest them.
You pull them over for a broken taillight.
You do some bizarre thing.
They stop them on the road because they got a knife on them.
And you hold them for some other reason to get them off the street, but you don't compromise the main operation.
Okay, but the real question is the social question.
You know, I'm not actually talking law enforcement.
I'm actually talking about the social question.
But it's the same question whether you're talking globally or here in the country.
You have military operations that are taking place with the same types of considerations and intelligence gathering operations where people are having to make very hard decisions, including political.
Operations where you don't want to give away the farm.
You're aware of who you're dealing with in reality and what their objectives are, but it's not time to pull the pin yet because so many things are interrelated.
You mentioned the queue operation.
That's being managed and coordinated.
All of the details are being managed and coordinated, not by just a person or a couple of people sitting around the desk.
What do you think about this or that?
They're using supercomputers to age and time and sift the information to come up with precise timing.
This is not a backyard operation.
And so those decisions are not seat of the pants, whimsical, arbitrary.
There's a lot going into those decisions because it is a military operation, period.
Okay, but in the end of the day, going forward in society with these, you know, in other words, I don't know what the numbers are exactly, but let's say one-third of the world's society have these proclivities where they can be brought into a network.
Through pornography or whatever it is that becomes the hook, right?
So what I'm just suggesting that there's an education process with the public about this that has to take place.
And I appreciate the way military operations are conducted, not quarreling with that at all.
All I'm saying here is that There's a social side to this that involves our society, the responsibility in all of the institutions that have been established by the cabal, by the Illuminati, run by the Jesuits, run by these people.
Okay, so I'm just saying this is a bigger picture than even a military operation.
This is, we're talking a good third of possible, third of humanity.
Globally, okay, that you can't arrest them, you can't kill them, and you can't even deport them, okay?
You have to deal with it, and you have to educate others, especially on the most so minimal level as to educating teachers and children's parents to be aware that those children are prey.
Okay.
That, you know, like the 411 guy, forget his name, who's saying all the humans disappearing in national parks, humans are prey.
That and that alone has never been made public.
Okay.
And I mean, really public.
I'm not talking about some alternative people that agree with Project Camelot.
Okay.
Or the 411 guy, you know, so I just wanted to bring that up because we are looking at parents who are, Unaware, no one has told them and educated them that it started a little bit.
They found some priests that they could expose as pedophiles.
And so maybe they don't so easily send their children to these horrible religious institutions where they get completely mind-controlled and then can be sexually dominated and et cetera, et cetera.
It's a road they go down.
But parents don't know.
By and large, they don't realize the danger.
If it's a full third of humanity that's going after the rest of humanity, then we are in a much more dangerous...
And that's not even talking about the abductions and what's going...
The real underground base is deeper, deeper than even like a superficial one that's human-based.
We're not talking about the ones that go down like Dulcy, where these humans have been kept in cages.
And as Mark Richards says, okay, one witness, he says they flew in back in the 60s.
He and his father, leading a bunch of military, rescued a bunch of children in cages and other humans.
And basically, a week later, the aliens went and abducted them again.
We're dealing with a...
An enemy that's so much more complex than what the general public is being educated about.
Now, I know there may be some disclosure coming along, so-and-so.
You can address that if you wish or not.
Otherwise, that's my last question.
You have layers and you have checkpoints.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
You're not going to solve all of this in a very short period of time.
A lot of what's occurred here has occurred over generations.
It's a process.
And so you have to pick your battles.
You have to know your limitations at any given point, including where the public is in understanding with you or not.
And sometimes you have to make decisions.
You know, because you're behind the wheel and everybody else is along for the ride.
It is a military operation at this point in time.
That's the way it is.
And it is for the planet.
And so there is no higher authority at this moment in time.
That's who's got the keys.
That's who's at the wheel.
It must be that way.
It always had to be that way.
As soon as safely possible, We will have civilian authority back in place for us anyway, and still it will be a military action to protect the American people, protect our homeland, and move forward to assist others around the world.
We'd have no aspirations to be our brother's keeper.
Unlike some other people, we do have aspirations to be our brother's brother out across the globe.
And if you want to look for these external threats, be they celestial or extraterrestrial...
At the end of the day, we still have the same borders, the same people, the same location to protect.
We have to secure our own situation.
We have to get the oxygen mask on ourselves and be able to stay conscious, stay viable in order to be of any assistance to the people around us.
We are under a direct threat.
We've been under direct attack.
We have to act to secure our situation here domestically, and then we can have the luxury.
Of going out and figuring out how we can affect the rest of the world and protect the rest of the world.
But we have to deploy here.
That's why our military was brought home here.
That's why we're deployed still around D.C. until some of these matters are a bit more settled and resolved and agreed upon both within the military.
Within the government that ends up being back in control, and within the broader public across the nation, some consensus and agreement.
But at the end of the day also, while there may be some civil discourse, this is not a civil war, and we're not headed for civil war.
80% of the people that voted, voted for President Trump.
The rest of the people may not agree with it, but the vast majority of the country understands and agrees with the idea that there was something went wrong in this election process.
We're not in the middle of a civil war, and it's not going to that level, even if you have some factions that are even in violent disagreement, because on the numbers, we got this.
In the meantime, while we work through the details of getting control of the helm of the ship, in reality, in the engine room, we still have control of the ship.
We're going to get control of the helm again.
It's going to be appropriate, lawful control.
And then we're going to figure out how to get out of this mess that we're in and move towards helping the rest of the world to get out of the mess because these...
People that seek to subjugate us and make us their sheep to farm us like animals are not going to win.
And at the end of the day, it's not because we're so smart or we have a fearless leader that's the only guy that can save us that has to do something.
It's going to be because of divine intervention.
These entities, if you will, that seek to enslave us, be they earthly or otherworldly.
A demon, even.
At the end of the day, it's some kind of divine intervention by God himself that's needed to overpower, to overcome, to prevail in this situation.
Prayer is required.
There's a thousand things that can still go wrong.
If you know 25 of them, you're a genius.
Even with supercomputers, if you know 500...
Of the thousand.
You're a real genius.
But the reality is there's still tiny things here and there that can take this off in wild twists and turns nobody dreamed of.
We are in a precipitous situation.
I did presentations last year and before.
I said this is going to be like an Esther situation with the flip in the Bible, 17th book of the Bible, where...
All of a sudden, on a moment's notice, everything flips.
And those that thought that they were going to win became the losers.
And those that were destined for death and to lose became the winners.
I did another one early in the summer with Jennifer Mack.
I said, choose this day about near-death experiences.
And I said, this election period would be like a near-death experience.
That's what it feels like to a lot of your audience.
They think we're toast.
We're done.
These guys are getting control.
We're all over with.
If we don't take action somewhere, yeah, because hell's about to seal us in forever.
Well, sometimes you cry out to God and you've got one more chance.
You have all these stories of people that have been through that.
That's what it'll be like for America.
I always made my bets.
It's not about January 20th.
My bets were always, for a year and a half, that come April 1st, that Trump would be president, and anybody who voted for the Democratic candidate, and later when it became Biden, because I did this long before Biden was the nominee, anybody that voted for Biden, the one he did become, and then became elected, would be the fool.
So April 1st, because why?
Because of the revelations coming out, because of the information.
And so you could have a dual presidency even beyond April 1st.
But anybody that's still backing the Biden team by then is going to be the fool, going to be viewed by that, by the vast majority of the American people, because it's going to become more and more obvious this was a...
fraud on America.
This was a cyber attack, a Pearl Harbor cyber attack on America, and that Trump was elected and that the military is going to recognize that and reinstitute lawful authority over those forces and then begin the process of verifying and that Trump was elected and that the military is going to recognize that and reinstitute lawful authority over those forces and then begin the process
And it may be a process of weeding out those various players, either more rapidly or less rapidly, starting with very senior people and working down through the ranks based on the evidence to get control of our government back to the people, lawful starting with very senior people and working down through the ranks based on the evidence to get control of our government
And by the way, we have every single vote count flip, twist, turn to the serial number of every machine where that was done here in the country.
It's a matter of time.
Watch.
Pray.
But we got this.
All right.
All right.
Very, very nicely said.
Thank you so much, Juan, for coming on my show, for being gracious enough to answer my questions.
And to do so eloquently without missing a beat.
So I do appreciate all of that.
I know that the chat has been going completely crazy.
I have quite a large audience.
When we close this down, I know a lot of people will see it.
And I think they'll be glad to have the questions aired, at least with one person who's in a great position to answer.
And just between you and I, and we'll get to talk more, a lot of this stuff is very interesting.
It's a great discussion.
It's a lot of fun.
And it's also very important.
But there's different levels of importance for this exact moment.
So just like you said, we'll defer some of the conversation out into the future when we have less instant pressures and concerns for where we're at.
We need to have those conversations, those exchanges of information on some of these other topics.
But for this exact moment, this exact instant, I think at least people, maybe at least whether they agree or understand exactly, they at least have some information that might help them to take a deep breath.
This isn't as harebrained or out of control as it might seem.
There is processes taking place, and it won't be forever.
These things are going to start coming back full circle pretty quickly here, and we're not talking a year or two out.
But I appreciate, you know, I'll look forward to letting you be there at that event and meeting in person and having some of those discussions in person.
You'll have other people present.
Where you'll get a chance to talk on some of these issues.
And then you can come back and talk to your audience after the fact in a more informed way.
And a lot of those are absolute first-class mover-shakers at a global level.
You're going to have real fodder to go into some of these details.
And probably new fodder as far as guests to bring in to have these discussions more fully.
And so I appreciate the chance there.
Talk with you here, and I'm looking forward to us crossing paths in the next few days.
Okay, wonderful.
All right.
Thank you so much, and you take care.
All right.
All right.
Bye.
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