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Jan. 26, 2025 - Project Camelot
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KERRY ON SECRET SPACE AND CURRENT EVENTS
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Music playing Hi, this is Casey, the Wise Woman Herbalist here in sunny Florida and
And today is Monday, January the 13th, 2025. And I have a very exciting guest coming up.
We're going to have, having back today, Carrie Cassidy.
She was last with us in August of last year.
And fortunately, her home, my understanding is she was going back there today and the power is getting turned back on.
Fortunately, you know, hopefully everything is okay for her.
So we'll be talking to her in just a little bit.
So I'm just going to share here.
Share.
Here you go.
Okay.
So yeah, there's Carrie, sweetheart.
So just quickly, my background was a financial advisor and worked my way up the ladder in finance.
Made a lot of money for some really questionable folks, including PepsiCo, the junk food maker, and a bunch of hedge funds and big banks.
And all that changed in 2008. I did a shamanic herbal apprenticeship, and that changed my life.
So I got my real estate license and sold property in Long Island and Queens for a number of years.
And in 2018, moved here to Florida.
I still have a real estate license, so if you're looking to buy, sell, or invest, let me know.
I am licensed here in Florida, and I can also write mortgages in 49 states.
New York, my former home state, being the exception.
But the key thing for me is people need to remember that when it comes to medical care, at least in the United States, Industry has a business model.
And so, you know, being an MBA and all that stuff, you know, it's very clear to me that there's not an incentive there financially to make people well.
And as we saw during COVID, there were some incentives to treat people with some really nasty stuff.
Okay, so Carrie's just asking me to post the link there.
So hang on a second.
And so, I don't sell products.
So, hang on.
Just bear with me here one second.
I'm going to send Carrie her link.
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Make my way sacred.
Fill me with beauty.
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Make my way sacred.
Fill me with beauty That I may bring others beauty Alright, so welcome, welcome, welcome
And I think we should have Carrie joining us.
I don't see Carrie.
Oh, she must be having trouble.
She keeps popping in and out here.
But she'll be on with us shortly.
And for those of you who don't know, she is a filmmaker, journalist, a long time.
She's founded Project Camelot, which is a...
She's basically a documentary filmmaker.
That's what she does.
And...
Oh, thanks, Vanessa, for posting that there.
And so, really appreciate.
She's been interviewing people, whistleblowers and whatnot, for the better part of 20 years.
So, she's pretty amazing.
And that's for the Rumble live stream.
Okay, so let me just share my screen here and we'll run through Carrie's background a little bit while she gets on here.
Alright, so she's the founder and CEO of Project Camelot.
We talked about that.
Her new book is Rebel Gene, The Secret Space Program and the Future of Humanity.
And I haven't read that book just yet, but I've got a big stack of books.
I'm really behind.
Carrie has interviewed over 2,000 people in now 20 years on radio and video.
And you can find that work on Project Camelot.tv or Project Camelot Portal.com.
And you can also check out her work on Rumble, Odyssey, and BitChute under Project Camelot and or Carrie Cassidy.
She has a really amazing body of work.
And she does travel the world, I believe.
I was pleased to have the opportunity to meet her.
That's the picture down here at the bottom right.
And she speaks about energy and disclosure and the secret space program and a number of other topics.
So we had a great discussion when she was here with us previously.
And, oops, hang on.
So here are some of the topics that I'm hoping that we can get Carrie's perspective on this evening.
Obviously, we want to talk about the LA fires.
We want to talk about the fog.
And we also want to talk about...
Drones, geoengineering, disclosure, crop circles, and, you know, trust the plan, Q, etc.
So anyway, those are the kind of topics that I have on the top of my mind this evening.
And certain cords are not connected properly.
So I had to scramble around, but I'm here now.
We're so pleased that you're able to get back to your home and it's all in one piece.
Not a cinder block.
You don't have a blue roof, do you?
I don't.
No, but Calabasas, we were under warning the whole time.
We were not force evac, but, you know, when you have a warning, you're supposed to evacuate on any minute.
Like, it still could come because we're still under warning, but finally they turned my services on.
Yeah, I'm still on the map there that you'd sent out.
And Calabasas is the far left in the yellow, that whole block of yellow.
So I'm in that area.
What happened with the fire, which is clear, I think clear evidence that it's directed, is that, as you can see, the lower part of that picture, if we can go back to that.
I'll put it back up.
Sorry.
No worries.
And C to the right is where it headed towards the Getty.
That's where it headed.
So it stayed flat in this picture.
It's been steadily.
It hasn't come any closer to us.
So if you look at the yellow, you can see the mandatory vac is right next to us.
It's right here in the red.
But the part that actually went over towards the Getty and the 405, which is bordered by the 405. Is all in bright gold right now.
Wow.
Their color choices are a bit unfortunate, but nonetheless.
I know, right?
I mean, I have these blue light glasses.
Maybe that's better.
No.
Yeah, so what happens is...
If it should cross, we're waiting to see today, and we do have bad winds here.
They weren't bad in where I was staying in the Studio City area, but they are bad here.
So I imagine they might be kind of bad over along the 405 where the fire is, so they will have a hard time keeping it on that side of the freeway.
If it crosses over into Bel Air, then you can imagine Bel Air is one of the most expensive Really placed with mansions and whatnot.
That's over here.
Next to that is Beverly Hills.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So it's really, you know, crucial that they keep, hold the line there along the 405. And, but they have mandatory, you can see the red next to the gold.
Yes.
On the right hand side here.
I don't know if you can see my cursor when I... But anyway, this is the 405. You can see the highway signs.
Right.
It's the line of demarcation.
Now, there's lots of lanes.
The 405 is a hugely wide freeway, but it's not impossible for it to jump.
It's a natural firebreak.
Yeah, that's what they're battling.
And then the red part is mandatory evacuation.
Actually, across the way on the 405. So they're prepared for evacuating.
And I have to stay like that.
I'm not supposed to unpack.
But it's very difficult.
This has been since the 8th.
So I've been staying in hotels and Airbnbs since the 8th.
Luckily, I couldn't find any hotels that were available in my area.
So I had to actually go all the way to Studio City to places that I could stand and check in there.
And so that worked out well.
There's lots of refugees over in hotels as well.
So it's been quite an adventure.
You know, you have to pack up everything that you want or you think you want to bring.
And it was kind of an interesting experience.
Now, I've been in a fire before.
I was in, I don't know if you remember the fires we had actually here in Agura Hills, Calabasas, and this general area.
And also going out towards, well, the Paramount Ranch.
I don't know if you know that area.
But anyway, that's the last.
That was actually about...
I don't know, four years ago or something like that.
And at the time I had a partner with me and we went up to Santa Barbara.
But we had to drive along roads that had fire to get out of there.
And at that time I was desperate not to get trapped in my car, as you can appreciate.
So I actually, there was a cop that was...
Kind of clearing traffic.
So I pulled up right behind him and followed him out.
So I got to the freeway and was able to get out of there.
I was one of the lucky ones.
And then the fire came.
In that case, it came right to the edge of my apartment complex.
But in this one, as you can see from that map that we were showing.
Actually, the whole area of Lost Hills did not have the fire go right up to it.
And it's called Lost Hills and Calabasas.
So this whole area up at the top that's in this kind of pukey color of green, whatever you want to call it.
It looks like split pea soup, I guess.
Yeah, it does.
So that's Calabasas.
But the mandatory evac is right on our border.
If you can look at the fire, how it absolutely chose to go in the direction of the Getty and over towards what's called Brentwood.
Which direction is that?
Which direction?
Sorry?
Which direction is Brentwood over this way?
Well, if you're looking, I'm not sure how people would say it.
But for me, it would be, so I'm probably north.
I'm north of that.
Okay.
And so this is the coast at the bottom, right?
Right.
So the coast, the funny thing of the California coast, it kind of curves around.
Right.
So it's not always going north or south along the coast.
It's going east or west.
Gotcha.
We call it, you know, but in the case of, you can just see this huge, it almost looks like a flame going up there.
That whole area to the right, far right, is to the, I don't know what to tell you, to the southwest of me, maybe you would say.
Okay.
Anyway, it went in that direction, obviously.
So that's where it is right now.
If it doesn't turn around or do something crazy, then I'm going to be safe and I'm fine.
But you never know.
Gotcha.
Okay, so it's basically moving in this direction is your point.
It's not going in your direction.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
That's an important difference.
And that's why they turned on our services, because they turned everything off on the 8th.
And it's been off until now, until actually last night.
But I had already booked a hotel last night, so I stayed there overnight.
Also because I was a little worried in case they might switch it and turn it off again.
I'm still a bit worried about that.
If the wind changes and the wind is really bad right now.
So it's been, you know, this is one of the worst I've ever seen.
Is that normal that you all have winds, like 100 mile hour winds?
But we have these things called the Santa Ana winds, and they do happen once a year, but they never were accompanied by fire, really.
Why there's fire now is because this is a directed energy weapon fire, as was Lahaina and Paradise.
So we are getting the same effects that they filmed, which is melted cars next to greenery that's not melted or burned.
And so this is clear evidence that this is an intentional...
I don't even think...
I mean, I know there are supposed guys on the ground that were supposed to be accused of lighting it, but 107 has done an interview with Nino recently.
And he uses this term, he says that this directed energy weapon, scalar wave, fire, was directed out of Area 51, is how he put it.
But I would translate that a bit because he is not willing to use the word secret space program.
Well, I think Into Thin Air had that on radar coming out, like this little worm thing coming off of Area 51 onto your area.
But he says they can direct it very well, very specifically.
So it's targeted.
And I have to tell you, I've lived here, God, how long?
I don't even know.
30 years at least, I can't remember.
I'm from Northern California, so I grew up in Northern California, but I moved down here to study acting and directing and also studied acting and directing in New York for a while.
But anyway, so I came back here.
I worked here.
My first job was in the entertainment, what we call the entertainment industry.
I worked in film and television for 20 years, and that's when there, at a certain point, I The jobs ride up in the entertainment industry, I went to work at JPL, Jet Propulsion Lab, which is part of NASA, and I was writing screenplays on my lunch hour there and also trying to pitch my own projects.
Back in Hollywood, which I kind of fell flat on my face there because if you're not part of the old boys network, it's almost impossible to get a movie even off the ground, let alone made.
So that's kind of when I started Project Camelot.
And I picked up a consumer-grade camcorder and started doing interviews with whistleblowers.
And then I got a partner, Bill Ryan, who was with me for the first three years.
And then we parted ways.
Creative differences, I think you'd say.
And also some human interference and weirdness that happened.
But that ended that.
And so I've been doing this now.
Well, total number is a little, almost 19. It's 19 years, but going on 20. So, yeah, that's how it all happened.
These directed energy weapons that are being steered from what he calls Area 51, I would change the language there because he's really referring to what is called the Secret Space Program, which is all, you know, underground, and it's all over the United States, underground.
And I think that the ones that are directing are probably out of China Lake.
And Lockheed Martin and all of the usual suspects that are part of the USAP program, the unacknowledged special access programs that the UAP hearing with the committee hearing that we recently saw, the second version of it a few months ago, talked of quite a bit.
Talking about how the Congress didn't have access to those programs, that they didn't know anything about them, that they wanted access, etc.
And that's where the crash retrievals are taken into those programs.
And it is made up of, this is part of the secret space program, and the recent car cyber bomb, or car bomb.
At the Trump Hotel, that Matthew Lifeless Burger, however you say his name, he actually had those clearances to, he said, USAP and UAP and Sean Ryan and the person with him,
whose name is Shoemate, strange name, but anyway, the two of them When they brought that up, his clearances, they actually said they did not know what a USAP stood for, which is insane.
It's either they're lying because Sean Ryan is former CIA. That's what I thought.
And that's no such thing as former.
And Shoemaker, or I mean Shoemate, is like former, I think it's FBI, forget which one.
Anyway.
A letter agency.
So when you're in that deep, you definitely know what a USAP program is, and especially because they brought up the hearing, the UAP hearing.
So what that means is that this particular guy who supposedly had a fight with his wife went to New Mexico, rented a Tesla, Put a bunch of explosives that he had in his Mustang into the back of the Tesla.
And you would wonder, like, why did they think of doing that?
So it appears that orchestration happened sometime on the road.
And then he was photographed, supposedly, you know, doing that charging of the electric car on the way between New Mexico and the Trump.
Except that, have they ever released any of the photographs of the guy who was Charging the car?
No.
So I think that he was intercepted.
I think he was abducted.
You know, he used the word abducted.
I think he was arrested, taken under control.
And I think that he was being, he was a Manchurian candidate, a sleeping abductee, in essence, is a word that Ashana Dean uses.
And the other guy who kind of went on a journey in New Orleans, in his case, he killed 14 people with a car.
I think he was also a super soldier slash, because they both had tons of medals and commendations.
And in the part of Matthew, he was still working for the military at the time when supposedly he went AWOL or off the charts.
So lately that guy's shoemate is trying to hint that he might have gone off his meds, and that's why he did this, which is bullshit, sorry to say.
And what's happening here is that we're seeing some orchestration.
And by the way, you know, Matthew was an expert on drones, no accident, right, that he was involved in this thing.
And like I said, he was also involved.
He said he had access, special access, to the USAP programs, meaning he knew all about the aliens, the crash retrievals, and a lot more than most people know.
Stuff I know because of my whistleblowers.
But I know I'm going on and on here.
No, this is exactly what we were craving.
You know, from you in terms of just perspective, you know, we all see all the other, you know, perspectives, but, you know, you've been around long enough and one of the things that I love about you, Carrie, is you don't just have one thing, one area that you focus on.
You really are very, you know, broad and comprehensive in terms of your viewpoint.
um you know all the questions you already anticipated most of them you know was it what do you think it was a do yeah I saw the um the melted cars with the Plastic recycling bin untouched right in front of it.
I was just laughing at that one.
That was probably the most humorous one that I've seen.
But, you know, at the same time, it's such a tragedy.
I mean, you know, yeah, I'm not really sorry that the pedophiles and, you know, houses are burning down at all.
But, you know, they're sweeping up a lot of other people that, you know, really are.
Just, you know, innocent bystanders, so to speak.
So it's clearly a black hat operation, I'm guessing.
Is that kind of your conclusion?
Yeah.
Now, I read something that said the P. Diddy house was burned down so that any evidence that hadn't already been collected is certainly gone.
And that may be true of some other.
Of these characters.
I happen to think that this was what is in essence...
See, the military is very involved with dark magicians and a lot of the even generals are dark magicians.
They are satanic dark magicians.
So when they do something, they're doing it along the lines of Satanism.
And so I believe that this was a targeted hit.
In part, on their minions, as you might want to call them, in Hollywood.
And by the way, the actual fire in Palisades was started in Palisades, supposedly.
But of course, that was, you know, a man-made thing.
They targeted Palisades, which is interesting because I used to go hiking up there all the time with my dog.
That is very high elevation.
It gets lots of moisture from the ocean.
It's right there on the coast.
And it would not be dry.
So when they go out and tell you that, oh, we had the fires because of the winds and the dryness, that's a lie.
They would have had to work really hard to get a fire going in the Palisades.
And not only is the Palisades not dry, There's not that many palatial mansions up on the Palisades.
A lot of that is actually apartments, condos, and in essence, regular people live there, okay?
And there are neighborhoods, but they're just, they're nothing, you know, I mean, they're nice, but they're not, you know, they're not palatial.
So this was not a targeting of the rich, although the rich got wrapped into it in some...
Perimeters, like, and some of the restaurants, like, we call it Maestro's or Maestro's, however you want to say.
That is a favorite on the coast, right on the pinnacle of the coast.
It's right there.
Gladstones, I think the fire approached Gladstones, but I hear it didn't burn, so it didn't go quite that far south.
That's at the corner of Sunset.
Pacific Coast Highway, just in case people know where we're talking about here.
And one of our favorite little Thai restaurants that was like a shack, basically, but they had great food right there on the coast, was burned to the ground.
And I think a few other of the restaurants that were much loved in the area.
So it's an anomaly, as far as I'm concerned, why they chose to target Palisades, other than it's Fairly inaccessible.
So when you get up there, I mean, if you've ever driven up there, it's actually very steep.
You almost have to drive, you know, it's not straight up, but it's definitely an incline.
And it actually dead ends.
It doesn't go anywhere from there.
So all the surrounding of Palisades is mountains and greenery.
And it's not dry grass, okay?
Which, if you wanted to have a dry fire thing, then actually my area has more dry grass and actually over in...
What you call Agura Hills has more dry grass and lower hills that are more subjected to, say, wind and stormy weather in that way.
They don't get the ocean moisture, okay, over there, which is kind of north of me.
I guess, you know, you'd call it northeast of me.
That would be above this yellow or pea-colored stuff.
So, they had to work very hard to get the fire going in Palisades, is my estimation.
And to get it into the hills there, where you've got tons of literally greenery, and it is not that dry up there.
Again, you know, you've got the coastal weather all on this side, and so you have to ask yourself how they...
They managed to do that, but they absolutely were intent upon doing that.
And it may have something to do with With the underground bases and or some...
I have a very wild theory and people may not like the theory, but I think I wrote a little bit about it on my telegram.
So if you hear me talk here and you want to see what I wrote over there, you can always go to my telegram to stay up to date with what's happening with me.
So I'm wondering whether there is...
I don't know if you...
War of the Worlds.
I think it's War of the Worlds.
Spielberg remade it with machines.
Do you remember that version?
I do.
It wasn't called War of the Worlds, though.
Yeah, I forget what it's called.
Yeah, I saw it.
It's a sci-fi movie.
So one of the things is the machines...
It's kind of interesting because the machines come up out of the ground.
That's actually the beginning of the movie.
Now, I think that could be symbolic of...
Nano and AI. And so I'm thinking that what they might be doing with the burn here in Hollywood is clearing areas to allow for this nano AI to come up out of the ground.
I know this sounds insane, but this is my theory.
I'm not saying I'm right, okay?
I'm just, it just, I don't know.
I'm a psychic intuitive.
I am, you know.
Pretty good at predicting some things in the future.
And I can just say that that's kind of what I'm getting.
I'm not also getting this smart, silly idea.
You have to understand where Palisades, again, and this fire that we've just shown you many times, you know, and I'm not talking about Pasadena.
Pasadena might be a little different.
I haven't analyzed that one.
The Eaton Fire, I think they call it.
And that's actually pretty much under control at this point.
In fact, all the fires except the Palisades are under control is what I understand right now.
So Palisades is still something like some pathetic life, 15% under control.
Thank God it's something.
I'm not trying to fault this fireman because they're obviously doing a heroic job.
But there is something going on.
OK, with this.
And I think I don't know enough about soil dynamics and underground bases and this kind of thing.
But there is something very suspicious about what how it burned, how it's burning now.
The fact that it's actually burning up in the again in the mountains where there's nothing except.
Wild wilderness.
It's wilderness, okay?
A lot of those hills.
Now, there are houses on the lower levels, but most of the houses are not up there.
So it is going over towards the Getty.
I think they're keeping it under control at the Getty.
I don't think the Getty will burn.
I think this is...
One of the things that we noticed in the other fire is, like I said, the last time...
Westlake, you know, I'm just gonna say, Westlake Village never burns.
Never burns.
The fire goes right to the edge, but never burns.
There are areas that are off limits for fires.
And it's because they are orchestrating them, okay?
And it's not the problem of the firemen, but...
It's just the way it works.
As you can appreciate, where the money is, is going to be where the fire is kept under control.
So if you follow the money, you'll probably figure that out.
Right.
So that's going on.
Another thing that I just want to say offhand is that they keep saying LA fires, LA fires.
But actually, other than being in LA County, the fires are not actually in LA. Hello.
So I've got people, I've listened to people, you know, just briefly because I turn them off.
Right away when I figure out what they're saying.
And they're saying, oh, you know, LA's burned.
You know, it's gone.
It didn't even touch LA. You know, it's not in the city of LA, okay?
It is in the wilderness, actually more the wilderness areas.
And I live, Lost Hills and Calabasas are in the wilderness area.
We're quite country here.
So, in fact, we have a river down the hill from where I am.
So, you know, I don't think it has any water, but I really don't know if it does or doesn't, because it kind of, it's deep in a ravine.
But I'm just saying that where has burned, and the city of Malibu did not burn either.
Now, a few weeks ago, about a month ago, they had a smaller Pepperdine fire that was Did encroach into a little bit of the city of Malibu, but not much.
And by the way, you know, on the coast, Nobu, if people, if people know this area, you know, then I know it like the back of my hand.
So, you know, but anyway, Nobu didn't burn.
Thank God it's a gorgeous restaurant, but it's also extremely wealthy, you know, real estate, as you can appreciate.
So there was a satanic attack about a month ago that was clearly satanic.
And I think part of that, that was a warning as to what we're experiencing now.
In this much bigger fire, in kind of adjacent area.
But I think that what's happening is they're telling their minions, the creative people that are out there that are whistleblowing on the Adrenochrome Highway, the human trafficking, the, you know, everything that's going on, the P. Diddy scene, and so on.
Those whistleblowers, I think they're trying to shut them up.
You know, burning some of their houses, probably.
And you don't know, because these people are reporting behind the scenes to probably Trump and the White House.
So this is a war, and I think that this is very strong evidence for that war.
But they missed the Getty, right?
They didn't get the Getty.
They're not going, but the Satanism, you know, Satan's, okay, the reptile, I assume people know these things, but...
Stephen Kelly actually did a recent video.
I did link it on my Telegram.
I don't agree with a lot of the things they say, but I do agree with some of it, and some of it's very accurate.
And he was, I guess you might call him a scientist, who worked for the dark side, in essence, you know, the CIA, the NSA, as he calls it, and so on, and was very involved in even, I think, Well, laser weapons, for example.
He and his brother, I think he has a twin brother, if I remember.
But what I'm saying here is that the Getty, he reported and I reported, you know, I interviewed him and had him speak at my conferences many years ago, all about the reptilian base under the Getty.
And this is under what's called the Getty Center.
Which is on the top of the mountain there.
And it's isolated.
I mean, it's not surrounded by houses or anything else.
It's again in the wilderness other than itself, which has taken over the top of the mountain.
And then below it on the coast is what's called the Old Getty, the Getty Villa.
And that has priceless Greek art, mainly Greek from what I remember, maybe some Roman as well.
And it's a beautiful, you know, collection.
So apparently there's a huge collection of art, but there's also a huge collection of reptilians under the ground.
And I don't think they're affected by the fires whatsoever.
In fact, they may be part of the instrumentation that's happening and creating the fires.
And it is said that they're run by AI, okay?
So, you know, Draco, Reptilians, and Greys are run by AI. So when I tell you my theory about how they may be loosening the soil, so some kind of nanotech, and it was interesting because Stephen mentioned this thing, I don't even know how to say it, but plages or plagias or some kind of, there's some kind of biotech thing that self-replicates that could be coming up.
Through the soil, that might have been part of the reason why they wanted to weaken the soil, get the greenery that's been there for hundreds of years out of the way, and allow this stuff to come to the surface.
So we're going to see what happens after this, obviously, if I'm right.
I don't expect anyone to come forward and say, oh, yes, you're right, they're doing this and so.
But it's just an intuitive feeling about it.
Well, I think I watched Harold Kautzvella talk about the two types of black goo.
There's the organic black goo from Mother Earth, and then there's this AI black goo, which is what I understand why we went to...
The Falklands War was about and what the Gulf oil spill was about.
The Gulf oil spill was infested with it, and that's why they poured Corexit there, to get rid of it, supposedly.
But yeah, I reported on that extensively.
So, yeah, so, and the idea of it coming up from the ground makes complete sense, and we already know the huge tunnel network that's under there.
So, yeah, very interesting.
I mean, it's almost, it could also, you know, in a way, it's almost like an artery for that stuff, you know, to be fed.
And rise to the surface.
Yeah, not sure.
You know, I'm not a scientist, so I'm not putting it together in a scientific way, but I just know what intuitively what it feels like.
It feels like the reason they targeted these wilderness areas like Palisades that...
Yes, did have some houses at the top there, but predominantly would not burn and is not subject to burn.
It didn't burn for hundreds of years.
And if you think we didn't have, you know, warm winds like we do every year at this time, the Santa Annas and all of that, we never had fires.
I lived here, you know, I mean, I've lived here, like I said, over 30 years.
And I can tell you when I was younger, I was working in Hollywood and there were no fires, you know.
Yeah, I mean, I just, I saw this, I don't know if you saw this, and I'm trying to find it, but this, to your point about, okay, so there was some kind of like a flash, and if you just catch it in the right corner, you see what's coming.
It looks like a structure with like horns and like another vertical structure behind the clouds.
Behind this thing, and I've got to find it, but I was like, what the heck is that thing?
It was almost like there was an entity there behind whatever was blasting this light.
I think it was a TikTok video, of all things.
I was like, oh, man.
It was just really freaky.
I have one here that I could share.
I don't know if it'll work.
I'll just share it from my telegram.
I can't make it bigger because I don't.
The technology is...
Maybe I saw it on your telegram.
I don't know.
I can't remember.
Oh, right.
Well, I don't know if this is what you're talking about, but I'm going to share this anyway.
So they caught this craft.
See, what happened with...
There was just the smoke, and there's also a purple sheen somewhere else in this video, since I can't.
I don't think...
Well, I can try playing it.
Anyway, so they...
It's kind of interesting.
It does show that there's something in the sky watching the situation and or, you know, involved in it somehow, you know?
Yeah.
So when I click this...
So this is it.
I don't know if this makes...
You can go watch it on my Telegram, though.
Okay.
The audio.
The little button for the audio drives me crazy.
I can't find it.
So anyway, that's it.
See this pinkish thing that starts out there?
Yeah.
Later on, I think they'll, yeah, they show this bluish thing.
So that definitely looks like a craft.
Very interesting.
And part of it is highlighted because you've got this smoke that is reflective, right?
Right.
You could see more than you would normally see.
But anyway, yeah, so there's stuff like that out there.
Well, you know, they tested.
I'm going to move into the fog now because I don't know if they're related, but did you all have the fog in the last couple of weeks?
Okay, so we had fog.
This is my take.
I mean, I don't know if people think they had the fog, but we didn't have it in my area, in Calabasas.
Definitely not.
And I was looking for it because, you know, people were reporting it.
And they had it in England.
And they've had it in other countries, but, you know, in parts of the United States.
And I understand that was really Texas, I think, really bad.
So, no, apparently that, again, As far as I heard, and I did talk to a, I don't know what you want to call them, but someone who works for, I think they work for MI5, and they said that, yeah, they're poisoning people and that there's all kinds of toxins that are being sprayed on people.
They're spraying us like we're insects.
Yeah.
Yeah, we definitely.
And, you know, the thing, they just, they, somebody in Naples, Florida down here actually had the fog tested, and it came back for Serratia maricensis, which is a bacteria, parasite, and guess what?
It's the exact same agent that they did in Operation Sea Spray back in the 50s on California.
Yeah, it turns out it's the same bacteria.
So they thought, supposedly, they thought it was harmless when they did it back in the 1950s, but they've since discovered that it's kind of a nasty little parasite, particularly causes urinary tract infections.
Hang on a second.
I've got like a minute and a half video if you're interested.
I can share and show it to you.
Hang on a second.
there we go all right way.
So remember that thick, sketchy fog I posted about here in Florida?
Turns out it wasn't just Mother Nature setting the scene for a low-budget horror flick.
Samples were tested in a lab, because Curiosity killed the cat, but apparently not the bacteria, and they found it was saturated with Sriracha marcescens.
Yeah, it sounds like a spell from Harry Potter, but it's actually a parasite.
Releasing pathogens like this onto the public?
That's biological warfare, folks.
This microscopic menace isn't just floating around for ambiance.
It brings some real party favors.
Urinary tract infections, because peeing shouldn't feel like a fiery punishment.
Bloodstream, infections.
Internal horror movie unlocked.
Pneumonia.
Nothing says fun like hacking up a lung.
Ocular infections.
Blurry vision so you can't see the bigger picture.
Respiratory tract infections.
Breathing normally?
Nah, that's so last year.
Meningitis.
When your brain decides to rage quit.
Wound infections.
Just in case that paper cut needed a sequel.
Osteomyelitis.
Bone infections because why stop at soft tissue?
But here's where.
It gets real weird.
Isn't it strange that half the country suddenly sounds like a tuberculosis convention?
And now they're already hyping us up for the next vaccine for yet another virus?
Stay sharp.
Stay questioning.
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So, I thought that was pretty interesting.
Yep.
I have to say, I agree with him.
Yeah.
I mean, it's insane what they're doing to humans right now.
They're throwing everything but the kitchen sink, maybe including the kitchen sink, at us and trying to see what sticks.
So it wasn't good enough that they caused respiratory issues with 5G and the COVID thing.
But, you know, they're still...
Still at us.
So one of the things also that came to mind during this time for me is that when I was, you know, investigating and talking to whistleblowers from Above Top Secret, we were finding out what reptilians really want.
And they want the planet back.
They want to leave some food here, human food that they eat and use us for sexual objects, etc.
But for the most part, they want to...
They actually want to terraform the entire planet to be more radiation-filled and methane-like.
That's because they thrive in that kind of environment for some reason.
Thus reduce CO2. That's the whole agenda.
It's an attack on carbon lifeforms, you could say.
And so, yeah, so that is, you know, the overall, I think.
Larger agenda.
That's not just LA. It's everywhere.
And it's all these fires.
I mean, you know, Lahaina was...
Really horrendous.
And Paradise, of course.
And, you know, going back to, well, North Carolina.
I mean, and Ohio.
I mean, we have had a steady litany of attacks in one form or another going back for the last two or three years really intensified.
So anybody who doesn't think it's orchestrated really needs to, you know, get their head examined or whatever.
So that's also what we're looking at.
So it's not rocket science anymore.
And it's also not conspiracy theorists, okay, of which I'm very proud to be a conspiracy theorist or fact finder because conspiracies are extremely real.
And that's when two or more people get together to plan some nefarious deed, which is happening every second of every day, somewhere on planet Earth.
So go figure.
So, you better believe in conspiracies.
Yeah, you better believe it.
And, you know, the thing, I think, you know, it's, a lot of these things are just so horrendous, people just can't really wrap their, they just, you know, they're good-hearted people, they just can't even imagine.
Yeah, I know, but you know what?
They have to grow up.
Yeah.
And we need grown-up, you know, warriors to join us in this fight.
Against the nefarious ones and the ones that want to take over our planet and the ones that want to change everything and get rid of us.
They're not going to survive just because being naive is not any kind of excuse at this time.
If you're naive, you're actually stupid, sorry to say.
Most people that are naive at this point, it's like you can't get...
Banged over the head over and over again and not get it.
You have to be a little stupid if you don't realize what's happening there.
Well, and then I also think, you know, there's a lot to be said.
I mean, you mentioned before this, there are generals that are satanic.
I mean, look at Colonel Mike.
Did he end up as General Michael Aquino?
You know, famously Satanic Temple of Set and Kathy, one of Kathy O'Brien's MKUltra torturers.
I mean, you know, that was all sanctioned by the U.S. He was in charge of the San Francisco Presidio, by the way.
And what's happened to San Francisco is a satanic spell that they have put on San Francisco.
OK, so this is also not idle.
They've destroyed San Francisco.
They've made a huge amount of homeless there and crime and everything else.
And most companies have by now left, got the message and left.
It's a tragedy beyond because it was such a beautiful city and so much fun to go to.
You know, I've been going there since I was a kid because I grew up just south of San Francisco in the Bay Area, as they call it.
Yeah, it's a tragedy what's happening, but it's a wake-up call to all of us to understand that we are under attack, that we are being attacked by not just our own brothers and sisters, if you want to call them that, but by beings from other planets with an agenda, and some are good and some are bad.
I'd like to talk also about what's supposed to be now the disclosure that we're going to see in our skies, supposedly.
I love that.
It's already happened with the drone wars that are starting to escalate.
And, you know, the military is lying to the people like crazy, trying to tell people, oh, they're looking for nukes and all this nonsense.
It's really a drone war.
And the aliens have their drones and UAP and UFOs and so on and so forth.
All these stupid names, they're kind of like, it just depends on the size of the vehicle, you know, and whether it's manned or not manned.
I think, you know, half the time they're not manned.
But, you know, it doesn't matter.
So what we're looking at, and I've got, you know, whistleblowers like Randy Kramer, who I've been talking about for ever since he said it, which is about five years ago, on stage at a conference in Yelm with me and others.
And he said, with his Marine commander standing by while he was on stage, that the military was going to orchestrate Project Blue Beam.
A fake alien invasion where most of it would be CGI and it would be put on your screens and you would believe that the military could beat the aliens using their technology.
That was where they wanted to keep control.
In the minds of the people, the minions, that they are able to fight the aliens with equal technology.
So that's part of Project Bluebeam.
Now, the trouble is, and I stood up and said this in the audience, is that, well, what are you going to do with the real aliens here, with the fake aliens?
And he comes stomping off the stage.
He, like, lost it.
And he's a super soldier.
He's been fighting aliens on Mars and the moon.
My heart goes out to him in that regard.
But nonetheless, I'm not going to let him lie to the people in my presence.
So I brought up the fact that, you know, of course, they're already here and you know it.
So he came stomping off the stage.
He was looking like he was going to beat me up or something, then just stopped short of me.
All of this was...
Recorded on film, which never saw the light of day, of course.
But nonetheless, you know, he didn't have an answer for that.
But that's the reality.
And now he's gone out and made videos recently saying that between the 8th and the 15th, and we're almost by the 15th, we haven't quite, you know, looks like maybe his deadline might come and go and it hasn't happened yet.
But saying that there's going to be, you know, The same thing Courtney Brown and his remote viewers are saying, and they're in touch with an alien race that they claim to be telepathic with, are saying is going to happen.
His date was the 22nd of December, sometime in the next 30 days.
So Randy Kramer's date was much more narrow.
It was the 8th of December, as I recall.
I mean, 8th of January to the 15th of January.
So we're fast approaching his Window.
And I don't know if he'll change the window or if he'll just admit defeat or what he'll say when that happens.
I'm sure they're not going to give up.
But the fact of the matter is, is that the military are orchestrating Project Bluebeam at the same time that the aliens want disclosure as well.
And they are putting their ships in the sky.
Now they have decided to put larger ships, according to the Courtney Brown Remote viewers because the smaller drone ships were not being taken seriously and they were trying to disinfo people by saying that they were looking for nukes.
I mean, people understand that they use the nuke word to scare people, no matter what they're talking about.
So whenever they bring that up, they're really trying to distract you with fear.
But aside from that, they always look for nukes.
That's just like their job.
They didn't just suddenly start looking for nukes with drones and making it public.
This is all orchestrated again.
So people that don't...
Obviously follow my work and are not up to speed on, you know, what's really happening and so on.
We'll look at these things with astonishment.
But there will be an awakening that goes beyond the fires and the directed energy weapons and the torture of humans.
You know, the Drenochrome Highway will be more revealed.
The P. Diddy information will be more revealed and so on.
So the lines of demarcation Of the war, which side you're on and which side they're on is all coming forward.
So in a sense, it's a good thing.
Okay, but it's also going to cause mayhem, as you can appreciate.
So, I mean, I welcome everyone that I talk to welcomes the, you know, bigger ships to prove that aliens are real, that there really is life on other planets, like humans are so, you know, have such tunnel vision because they've been taught to have tunnel vision and so on.
So that would be actually very nice to see something go on.
Supposedly, they're not going to attack us, but the military...
The military will probably attack them.
And I think then you're going to see in our skies a war of worlds.
And I did reference a certain sort of remote viewing that Cliff High, well, he doesn't do remote viewing, but his web bot was saying that there would be some particular kind of event that's never happened.
And I reported it on a certain show that I've never...
Going to be on again until the guy apologizes for his behavior, and he was wrong.
So what happens is, you know, this is what we're talking about.
We're talking about groups of remote viewers, including Future Forecasting Group with Dick Allgaier, who's one of the most well-known expert remote viewers, and Daz Smith is another one.
In the years, in the past, I've interviewed Courtney Brown, I've interviewed Dick Algar, I've interviewed Daz Smith.
So I follow this stuff, you know, day by day.
So I know what these guys are putting out there as well.
And then I have my own precog dream.
So actually, I didn't say this much, that the night before the Cybertruck, two nights before that, I was actually spending New Year's in...
Vegas with a friend and I woke up in the middle of the night at 3 in the morning on the 29th screaming From a dream vision that I was having that I was in an attack and I saw metal and glass flying and just was screaming and screaming.
I've never done this in my life.
And luckily I had someone there with me.
He grabbed me and, you know, sort of shook me and said, you know, carry, carry.
And so then two nights later, the explosion happened with the car.
So in a sense, it was a precog event.
Although in my dream, I did not see a car.
And so at the time, I thought it was an attack on the Trump where we were staying on the hotel itself.
So I can't say for sure that I was seeing the car event or I was seeing some future attack on the Trump.
But I put this out there.
Shortly after it happened and so on and so forth.
So we'll see.
But I definitely experienced something horrendous and huge.
Wow.
Well, hopefully that was the truck explosion and there's nothing else coming that's going to involve glass and metal and you.
Let's try and avoid that.
Yeah.
It was really very real for me.
And I but I but I will say that I didn't feel like I was injured.
So that was kind of interesting.
I was I was seeing all of this all around me.
It's kind of like it was like a 3D film or whatever you call that.
Interesting.
Wow.
I mean, it's definitely strange times.
I mean, so basically, there's a blue beam effort that's going on from the black hats and the the good ETs are actually now.
Also getting into the mix, because I've seen, even during the drone thing, I've seen some things that are definitely not man-made, you know, they're orbs and things changing shapes and doing all kinds of weird, you know, things.
I mean, I've seen orbs before, so they're definitely not, they don't strike me as reverse-engineered craft.
I could be wrong about that, too.
I mean, it's plasma energy, so maybe they've figured that out as well.
So, are there...
So we're basically going to have this thing, like we see in all the ancient texts, where they're going to be fighting each other in the sky?
Or are they going to be...
A lot of thought military, yeah.
And the trouble is that our military, and we've been talking about this for a long time, is split.
So we have Dark Hat military and we have the White Hats.
That's why we call the Trump team the White Hats military.
And they are Space Force mainly, but also divisions of others like Navy, half a Navy, you could say, whatever portion and a portion of Army.
And, you know, so there are lots of divisions of our military.
Some are definitely...
Dark hats and Satanists and some are white hats and following in a good way Trump and what's planned to set this planet right.
Actually, it's not just the United States, it's the planet.
And a lot of people like to point to Trump's family history.
They do not understand what he is actually doing and what he's already done, even when he was in office back in 2016. So this is a big, long story.
And I've been trying to document all of it and write articles nonstop on it, as well as do interviews.
And I interview people and they interview me and so on and so forth.
So I have thousands and thousands of interviews.
Now I have thousands of articles and I'm on Substack as well.
So if you want to see a lot of my latest articles are on Substack.
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Thank you.
Well, you know, I think it's important that, you know, because look, there's a, you know, now that we have a change of administration coming in, There's an entire, you know, I was saying this to one of my friends, there's an entire ecosphere of, you know, talking heads that are now completely irrelevant and are trying to remain relevant by shooting out all kinds of weird theories.
And I don't know, I think it's interesting to just watch the kind of things and I just roll my eyes a little bit.
So, I mean, it's nice to, you know, the people that have been around a while doing this, you know.
You know, like yourself, you know, I think are proving out over time, you know, your, you know, your credentials, right?
You know, it's like, you know, your new flash in the pan.
You've been at this a while.
You've got receipts for everything.
You know, so, you know, I appreciate that.
Did you happen to hear, I was so interested, Cliff High had said something.
A few days ago, and I remember him talking about the melee.
That was the thing.
It was supposed to be a melee and not, you know, like the military was doing something, but then it, you know, snafu, you know, everybody's like, you know.
Well, I think he is referring to this forced disclosure, you know, situation.
So what he calls a melee, I mean, that's, you know, it's just a word.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the other thing.
You also call it forced disclosure.
You know, you might be more accurate in that case.
Right.
And then he also mentioned something that I found fascinating, because I've really been doing a deep dive into circumcision, which I hadn't really even thought about for my whole adult life.
But he talked about how the Draco reptilians, or he calls them the Elohim worship cult, had the covenant to cut off, to slice off their foreskins.
Actually prevents them from being able to operate their craft because they wanted to keep humans from being able to take their craft and escape.
Actually, that's bullshit.
Is it bullshit?
Okay.
But he may be taking something that is more esoteric.
In nature.
And what it is, has to do with kundalini activation.
And so, you know, you're affecting a sexual organ, right?
Which is what you call the base chakra of humans, and in this case, men.
And so that may, to some degree, slow the activation of the sacral chakra, which is red, if you...
Go by the primary colors.
And you can look at chakras by just Googling it.
And so I have actually connected all my chakras, a la the way yogis have over centuries.
And so interfering with the physical body can interfere with the chakra system.
And that's the base chakra.
So what it means is, see, the craft actually...
It goes through kundalini energy, plasma and light energy is all the same in the end.
So craft are basically interdimensional and you can fly craft using kundalini energy.
But a lot of humans at this point, especially Western humans who never studied activating kundalini, and I teach kundalini activation.
And have videos on it.
In case someone's interested, you can just come to my website and put in, you see the word Kundalini right there.
You put that word in, you'll see two videos that I have, a longer one and a shorter one.
And they're free on my site.
So all I'm saying is that understanding that and that system is actually more what we're talking about.
Right.
You know, I'm sorry, but, you know.
Yeah.
You can still develop kundalini activation, regardless of whether, you know, you have a foreskin or you don't, because it's the chakra.
It's not the organ.
Well, I don't know.
Stop the third eye by cutting a hole in the forehead.
You know, we are spiritual beings.
First, we are beings of light.
We inhabit these bodies.
When we die, we leave the body.
We stay alive.
We are eternal beings.
We are beings of light.
Getting graphic like that and getting very specific to organs is not going to solve your problem.
It's not going to answer any questions.
Well, it's interesting to me because that he said that, but, you know, I was like, huh, that's really interesting, but it would kind of make sense.
And he also mentioned that the Draco reptilians hate pork.
Hate pork?
They hate pork.
They find it incredibly like, bleh, we hate the pork.
I don't know whether that's actually true or not.
I mean, it sounds like propaganda to some degree.
A lot of times the Illuminati and the Draco that influenced the Illuminati consider pork to be pigs, right?
From pigs.
Right.
Pigs are considered to be...
Genetically similar to humans.
So it's kind of like saying they don't like humans, but they love humans.
They love human flesh and blood and our organs and everything.
So it's a little contradictory.
It's a low-level human in their view.
Again, if you don't really understand what you're reading or what you're tapping into, then you tend to put it in some kind of...
You know, gross, crass language, but you don't really know what you're talking about.
Again, you're only seeing us on a more, you know, developed level and understanding what we're capable of.
Right.
And the way Dracos, Reptilians and Greys view us as a food source, as a sexual source, you can put two together and understand that they would consider pigs a lower level human.
Yeah, I can see that.
I can definitely see that.
So, do you think that...
Well, one of the things that I'm also curious about is...
Disclosure, I think people are ready.
I think the population's totally ready for the disclosure about ETs.
I mean, they've been pre-paving that for decades.
Hollywood has paved the way.
Hollywood is not all bad.
They have brought a lot of joy to people's lives.
A lot of intelligent analysis of our state on the planet and how to be a hero.
You know, and how to be a warrior.
All of this is all in their films, you know.
So they couldn't tell the story without telling the light and the dark, the interplay of the light and the dark.
And this is very educational.
So, you know, there are plenty of people that came to Hollywood with a dream and have actualized their dreams.
So it's also actualizing who we truly are and using a lot of our superpowers to get to where you want to be.
So, you know, I worked in Hollywood for 20 years, and I worked around lots and lots of people, and there are plenty of really wonderful people in Hollywood as well.
Right.
Well, wasn't Brad Cooper's one of the good ones?
And who's the fellow who did Out of Shadows?
What's his name?
I don't know that.
Oh, Out of Shadows, he talks about how...
That's a video or something.
Yeah, it's an actual documentary film.
Yeah, I think I saw it a while ago.
Yeah, and it's actually quite helpful for normies because he takes them on his journey to discovering the truth.
So I think psychologically people are sort of ready for that.
But one thing that I really am shocked about is how not ready they are to talk about Like, child and human trafficking.
I mean, I was, and it's interesting, because now, I was talking to a friend of mine who's in New York, you know, big blue state, and she says, oh yeah, she goes, and she's like a social worker, she does sign language and stuff.
Anyway, she says, yeah, everybody here, I said, you know, it's Human Trafficking Awareness Month, and she's like, Oh, we can't talk about that.
I was like, why?
Because people associate that with Trump.
I'm like, why?
That he's trying to get rid of human trafficking and therefore if Trump is for something, they're against it?
I mean, it's really this mind control thing that's really, how do we get past that, Carrie?
Well, first of all, Trump's going to prove who he is once he's in office and able to move forward with a lot of the things he plans.
There's going to be a huge exposure and an education, really, of the people out there.
And, you know, Wano Savin is JFK Jr., and he is really right alongside of Trump.
And if you don't know that, then you really don't know who Trump is.
You actually don't know that JFK Jr. is alive.
And there are many Hollywood celebs that are still alive that we think are dead.
And I think they will all come forward eventually.
So, you know, this is a time of awakening for the planet.
And with good reason.
It's going to be exciting to see all of that exposed.
Well, and just like any birth, I suppose, there'll be some birth pains.
But, you know, look, I mean, I think, you know, light and dark are really lovers at the end of the day.
You can't have one without the other.
And, you know, every dark deed actually works in service to the good, even though it does not mean to necessarily.
It always works out that way, you know.
Some of the darkest things that have happened in people's lives end up to be blessings in disguise, as you may know.
And it's kind of the rules and the laws of the universe.
Illuminati know these rules really well.
But the yin-yang symbol, I think, is the ultimate symbol of the interplay of light and dark.
So I think that that's one of the best ways to visualize what we're talking about.
Unlike a lot of religious fanatics who don't realize that God is in charge of both light and dark, it's very important to use that symbol and to realize that the real God and not the Anunnaki gods that are talking about in the Bible that people, you know, worship on their knees, when God could care less whether you worship him or not, calling a him or her, whatever you want to call her.
The thing is being, you know, this is so insane that religion has been really keeping the blinders on with humans.
And so I hope that there will be an exposure alongside these other things of religion, of the Catholic Church, of the fact that it's the bed of Satanism on the planet that is run by the reptilians underneath the Vatican.
And so on.
So I hope that all this will be exposed.
I think you cannot have awakening without it.
I think that that's absolutely true.
And, you know, I was just introducing a friend of mine today to Abraham Hicks and just happens to be one of the ones that I really enjoy because it's very simple.
You know, it's like, oh, well, you know, you can tell how you're.
You know, relating to your source by how you feel.
And, you know, keeping everything, you know, really...
Hang on, I'm trying to find the photo so I can show you.
But that yin and yang symbol.
And we were talking about that, how, you know, light and dark work together.
I can't find how to share it to you because I guess I'm dumb.
But anyway, but it's just so...
Because the other thing is the light and the dark don't sit.
The yin and the yang don't sit in one static position.
Right?
They're always spinning.
And they're spinning because of the contrast between the two of them, just like magnets, right?
If you remember the old schnauzers, remember the schnauzer dogs?
Maybe you're not old enough, but we had little, there's a black schnauzer and a white schnauzer, and they were magnets that were opposite poles.
And you could make them, like, kiss each other or, like, run away from each other when I was a kid.
And so I think it's that way as well.
And the thing that when you realize that, it takes you out of this judgment mode.
And I think that that judgment mode tends to lead you down to that fear path, right?
And once you're in that fear path, then your vibrations really drop.
And then I think you become really susceptible to whatever is being spewed out, either physically or, you know, the mind aspects and whatnot.
So any thoughts in that perspective?
Well, I think that the ultimate goal is transcendence.
And so you must understand that these system of polarities that Earth is very much based in, in 3D going into 4D, That's where we're at.
We came here to experience that and to then transcend it.
And so, ultimately, it's unity.
All is one, and so on and so forth.
Not to get so airy-fairy, but nonetheless, this is what we're talking about.
We're talking about an awakening to understanding who you really are and your link-up with Source and that Source is, like you, a combination of light and dark and that we are here to become warriors against the dark and ultimately transcend it.
So, nothing wrong with that.
Right.
So, it's interesting.
So, because a lot of times when we think of the Draco reptilians, we think of them as, ooh, bad.
And like Venusian is, ooh, good.
You know, from Venus or...
But, you know, the way we look at other races, other beings and other planets, is based on how they treat us.
It's just like saying a lion is good or bad.
The lion goes after its prey, right?
That's what it always does.
It kills a defenseless deer or whatever it happens to be.
You can't view a predator and just call them bad.
It's not like that.
Also, it's worth noting that some Draco and some reptilians and greys are actually Have moved over to the positive popularity.
So they are helping humans at this time, some of them.
But of course, the majority are still, you know, negative in their approach.
But there is a purpose behind all of it, because if you don't have the negative, then you never find out just how good you really are.
Well, that's it, right?
If you don't know what you don't want, you really don't know what you do want.
It's weird how that works.
And, you know, Abraham...
The dark serves the light in that regard.
Yeah, exactly right.
Yeah, because, you know, when you think it's the worst thing ever, you know, life is falling apart.
When you look back on it, you go, wow, you know, that really...
That changed my life, and it's so much for the better.
Like, when I lost my job, my corporate dream job in 2008, I mean, I hit the ground.
I was, like, crushed, you know?
And this is what I'd been working for my entire adult life, you know, since my mom helped me forge my birth certificate so I could get a job.
And I marched at the Macy's parade, by the way, in high school, my high school marching band.
So I got to go to Pasadena when I was quite young.
For that, so that was a big formative experience.
I would say in my same way, when I failed to get sci-fi projects off the ground in Hollywood, I was forced to go to Jet Propulsion Lab and to immerse myself in the military-industrial complex and work for these people.
And that's when I started to really do Camelot.
And so I wouldn't be doing the documentary filmmaking that I have been doing for the past 20 years if I wasn't sort of kicked out of Hollywood.
Yeah, so see, adversity has created the opportunity.
So that's great.
So I just wanted to...
Oh, and one of the audience members is saying that Out of Shadows was directed by Mike Smith, former professional stuntman in Hollywood for 28 years.
And then I wanted to know if you want to take some questions from the audience.
Sure.
That's fine.
Yeah, let's go for it.
Any questions out there, Vanessa, Gaz, anything for us?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sure.
But under Trump, it's not, you know, Trump is not in charge of wars, even though, you know, a lot of this is deceptive because of the surface.
So the wars that are created are created by the Anunnaki and the Illuminati to actually garner, you know, more wealth.
And under cover of war, they abduct humans, they take them off.
Planet in reptilian ships and in droves and nobody ever counts them, the humans that are taken away in the darkness of war.
So all of this is going on on planet Earth and planet Earth is on a trajectory.
So Trump is part of that trajectory and he's actually bringing in the positive.
But it doesn't mean the negative is going to be gone.
It's going to be fully active.
In fact, the war is...
Is actually more articulated because we have sort of a rising of the good.
And this will be where you get exposure of a lot of the truths and the things like the adrenochrome highway, as I call it, you know, the child trafficking and so on.
So humans will be a lot more awakened at the end of whatever amount of time.
Trump has.
Now, I have seen the future in multiple dreams and visions, and I can tell you that during this time, we will still be fighting aliens, okay?
And that means we're also going to be fighting the Illuminati.
In other words, they're not going to just disappear off the planet, and you can't kill them all, okay?
And they're not all going to go underground and never surface during the time when Trump's in office.
On the contrary.
So this war continues.
A lot of people want to think that we're going to have a time of, you know, I don't know, they call it the golden age, all this nonsense.
It's not going to be like that.
Not according to my visions.
Now there will be aspects of it because good things for a change will actually happen.
It's just that, you know, it's not going to be permanent and there will be a resurgence of the dark.
And so on and so forth.
It's important to understand that the earth has been tilted towards the dark for a very long time.
And what we're doing is the light workers, the good people, are bringing it back to center.
We're not actually doing away with dark.
That's not even possible.
If you understand the imbalance that has been here, it's bringing it more into balance between the light and the dark.
Now, as far as the Bible goes and things they say in there, I am not a fan of the Bible at all.
I will say there's tons of lies there, and partly, from what I understand, because of the Council of Nicaea, where it was rewritten, and to make sure that anything that they didn't want out there was It was not out there.
And so you have to pick and choose between what you think is true about the Bible and what you may question.
And all that has to do with your ability to resonate between the heart and the mind and understand from that point of view.
You know, there are things about Christ that are written in the Bible that are not true, and there are things that are true, and so on and so forth.
So if you get too hung up on every word in the Bible, you're actually following a false text, in my opinion.
You know, your point about being tilted, it mirrors the tilting of our brains to the left hemisphere.
By the invention of writing and the atrophy of the right hemisphere.
It's very, you know, now that we're going back to the right hemisphere a little bit, you know, that's what I call the woo, right?
That's the woo.
Here's the, like, real world.
You know, people, they haven't been over there, so it feels really weird and, you know, conspiracy theory and, you know, tinfoil hat kind of thing.
But really, it's...
And all of our natural abilities.
This is the thing that I really am excited about because, you know, people don't really realize how powerful we are.
If we weren't so powerful, then, you know, we wouldn't be so desirable in terms of, you know, our prey, our predators.
So, you know, there's something about us, and we do have the, I think, fairly unique ability, you know, to create.
I mean, I don't know exactly how all these other species work, but we're in a special kind of dimension here, is kind of the feeling that I have that's kind of...
Different from what we see in the rest of the universe, but I could be wrong about that, too.
But it just feels like we have some special power, and it doesn't come from the bag of blood and bones, our skin suit that we're in.
It comes from our source, the energetic parts of ourselves.
And I think when people really start to connect with that, you know, that wise healer within, that inner being that they really are.
I think that it will really help, you know, the scales fall away from their eyes because then they'll have the courage to face, you know, what other species and, you know, messed up people have been perpetrating.
But right now it's difficult.
If you're feeling like powerless, you know, oh my gosh, I can't look at that because that would, you know, I might die from fright.
So I think people really need to, you know...
Go down and get that power from within.
But that's just my thought.
Maybe they won't make it.
Well, I mean, there's a really interesting woman scientist.
You might have heard of her.
She's on, I don't know if it was a TED Talk or whatever it was.
She gave a lecture or a few.
And she had an injury to, I think it was to her head.
And what happened was her left...
Her left side, she couldn't write, she couldn't even dial a phone, for example.
And she went fully into her right lobe or whatever you want to call that.
So she had amazing experiences during that time, but she couldn't communicate them.
So the ability to even speak, I think, was a problem.
So she gradually made her way back.
And so now she can talk and everything.
And she's, I guess, brought herself back into balance.
But that experience of being cut off from the left forced her into, you know, the right brain.
And it is said that, you know, the right brain is, in essence, unlimited, which is...
Connection with God, in essence.
So that's where we're most like God.
And the left is limitation.
So, you know, we need both structure and unlimited creativity to experience this sort of dimension and density.
And so manifestation is sort of the manifestation of the balance between the two.
And so how you manifest and all of that.
Is mirrored in your physicality and so and so forth.
So just saying that it's really, I mean, I've always felt more comfortable on the left, I mean, on the right brain than on the left.
But I, you know, it's like you can educate yourself on either side to, you know, there are tricks where you can.
Well, like most creative people are very.
Right brain dominant, right?
But the creator is ultimately creative.
What happens with a lot of the Illuminati, it is said, is that they don't create anymore.
They only feed off those like us that create.
So that's part of the vampirism.
That's part of that side of things.
And it's very fascinating to really...
Go down that road and realize how incredibly creative humans are.
One of the areas that humans have proved their creativity, strangely, is in reverse engineering alien craft.
It was said that actually the aliens don't redesign their craft.
They don't use a lot of creativity.
Once they have sort of a structure, they just go with that and they don't fool around anymore.
Humans are endlessly creative, so we always want to change and read, you know, it's like automobiles, constantly changing the design and so on and so forth.
So it's because we're so creative and innovative.
And there's also the story about the Japanese and the Chinese cultures, you may remember or may know, where they are taught.
To follow the herd.
And that the worst thing you can do is put your head above the paraffin, because it'll get chopped off, is the theory.
But what they found was that that's why Japanese come in droves to the United States, because we do favor innovation and the freedom of the individual over the group, to a degree.
And so this is where we have a complete opposite paradigm.
With the Chinese and the Japanese, because the Chinese with communism ended up to want to follow the herd with everything.
And that ends up to be totalitarianism, so on and so forth.
So when you look at that, it's really fascinating because the Japanese have really followed the American model more and more in their culture.
And they benefit from that in a huge way.
So I think that that's worth noting.
No, I agree.
And I spent some time in Japan, and it was actually my first job when I went to work for PepsiCo.
And, you know, working in business, you know, with a Fortune 50 company, you know, is a little bit different than, you know, just going as a tourist.
And one of the things that they communicated on to me very early on was that when the Japanese say hi, that doesn't mean that they're saying yes or that they agree.
What it means is...
I hear you.
You said something.
It's kind of like a nicety.
And I know in business negotiations, that was really important to know, right?
Because if you're talking to someone and they keep going, oh, hi, hi, hi, you know, like you're like, oh, yeah, they agree.
But, you know, and then there's this in Asia and all over Asia, you know, there's this, you know.
Idea that you have to save face, like the worst thing it would be to shame someone publicly, which is why it's considered rude to count your change in Japan, because that must mean that you think that I didn't give you the right change, right?
So there's this idea that, you know, you can't shame another, and I think that's why there's no word for yes and no.
So you're having a conversation and you're going, oh, I hear you.
I hear you.
The four great words of peace.
I hear you.
Or the three great words of peace.
I hear you, right?
You may be right.
Let me put in a plug here for Netflix, because I know that especially MAGA people love to deride Hollywood, but they also love to deride Netflix in particular.
But Netflix actually has more international films than anywhere.
And I happen to be a fan of the Korean, Japanese and Chinese films.
And so I watch them constantly because I find them really the most fascinating.
And they are absolutely showing.
I just really encourage, especially I think the Koreans are just master filmmakers at this point.
And their series are just stellar.
So I encourage people to watch them.
You'll learn a huge amount.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I tell you, I learned a huge amount just traveling.
I mean, you know, I was a young woman and I got my passport on a Monday and on Wednesday I was off to Tokyo.
That's great.
Well, you're like me.
I love to travel.
In fact, when I'm not traveling, I always feel like I'm missing something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I don't, you know, my passport expired, Carrie.
Oh, God.
And it's less than a year.
I feel trapped if I have to stay in the United States.
I know.
I was thinking about going to Mexico.
I need to, yeah, explore.
I need to get that thing updated for sure before we get locked down.
So, it always works out in the end.
But one question that I have, and I know that a lot of the people that we see are not the real people, although it looked like the real Trump and Melania at the funeral of Carter, to me, to my eye anyway.
But my understanding is, you know, there's a bunch of doubles for everyone.
And my biggest...
Concern is this whole Elon Musk.
I don't think that's the same Elon Musk, the Satanist, you know, who invests in vaccines, but he's still, this figure is now kind of like...
Almost in charge.
And I don't know if this is just to create a mouthpiece, like, you know, oh, he can say this, but I can't.
But some of the things that Musk does and stands for are quite concerning with respect to technocracy, in particular, and transhumanism.
So what is your point of view on Elon Musk and his association with Trump?
How is that?
What does that look like?
So I have talked about this, but basically the first thing you have to know about the White Hats and Trump is that they keep their friends close, but their enemies closer.
And this was evident during his first regime, whatever you call it.
So what I would say is that...
Understanding that the way he chooses people are people that he wants at his side, yes, and he may believe in them and so on and so forth.
But at the same time, they are going to be people who are going to be under scrutiny by the world, by the audience, okay?
So he knows that.
So they're watched, in other words.
And so Elon in spades is going to be that and is that.
And the other thing is that I... I think that this is the second version of Elon.
I think this is a clone of Elon.
I think the first one became a cyborg.
In fact, the remote viewer Dick Allgaier actually did a drawing of the first version of Elon that showed his cyborg parts in the drawing.
I don't have it at hand right here, but if you want me to send it to you.
Well, Elon is on film talking about how he uploaded his brain into the cloud.
Yeah, he totally turned himself into a cyborg.
But I think it might have killed him.
Okay, so I don't know what happened.
I don't know if he was physically killed on purpose or how it worked.
But I think this version is the second version of Elon.
I believe that...
The way it works with clones is that they can actually go, like, whereas the original was on the dark side, they can entertain going to the light.
But they're not necessarily dependable.
So you kind of have to watch them a lot.
And I think that's going to happen.
Now, I think I've also noticed that Elon is, or at least the Elon we're witnessing, is a lot more...
He's conducive to considering opposite points of view than he maybe used to be, which is a trait of going to the light, right?
So, in other words...
Except for the fuck yourself in the face over the H-1B visa.
Well, yeah, Steve Bannon came out in a very strong way, talking about how the people that are backing or trying to back the H-1, whatever they call it, visa thing.
So it's all about letting...
Techies who are very capable from other countries into our country more easily.
And, you know, doing a lot of Americans out of jobs that maybe should rightfully be theirs.
Now, I'm not completely convinced that that's all it is, okay?
So I think that that...
Put American first is a very good thing.
But I also think, you know, because I've traveled so much, for example, I went to the Taj Mahal.
And if you go to the Taj Mahal, then you might understand why people who are growing up in India are very good at a certain kind of technology.
Not all, but some.
Because if...
What that was that when they took, they made these tiny mosaics of, you know, I think a lot of them are like actually stones that are like, you know, aquamarine or whatever they happen to be.
So in other words, it's like created out of, it's like almost a nanotech structure.
The Taj Mahal.
And I've been there and walked around it and so on and so forth.
And I've been to the factories where they make every little mosaic that's going to go into the building of that.
And it's absolutely extraordinary.
So you have a culture that is trained in this way of perceiving reality and looking at it.
On almost a nano scale.
So it's not as simple as just looking at the workforce of the United States and saying, oh, they're all alike everywhere in the world.
They're not.
Different cultures have different emphasis in their culture and how they're brought up and how they see the world and how they work with the world.
So I think we benefit by bringing over.
What people might say are people that are not American to bring into our various industries.
And I think likewise, sending Americans over to other places where we bring, you know, a freedom of expression that they might not have in certain places like Russia or wherever it happens to be is also beneficial.
So I don't think it's all one way or all another.
Right.
But of course, I am in favor of, you know, Make America Great and that there should be absolutely, you know, America has had some very weird...
Laws and rules and regulations to do with trade and, you know, where we don't charge people anything and they charge us huge tariffs and the whole thing.
So it is, you know, there needs to be a rebalancing, no doubt about it.
But I think it's important not to go too much the other way.
You know, it's always like when you have an issue and you think you're going to go the complete opposite and that's going to solve it.
That never solves it.
It bounces back a little bit.
Right.
So I think it's a question of balance.
And I think we need to bring balance to all these areas.
And the H1, whatever they call that, is just one example.
Well, it was interesting, though, that it actually did...
I was wondering if it was a white hat thing because it actually did expose all the corruption around that and the fact that...
You know, they were actually, what was supposed to be for super skilled, you know, engineers, was actually being used for janitors and other low skilled people to pay even less than they would.
And in fact, there was one fellow who's, he's from India, and he's already a citizen, and he couldn't get a job, but his cousin, who was still in India, did.
Competing for the same job.
So, you know, it had a good impact in terms of it taught us.
I'm all for examining these things, you know, but I think it's a question of balance.
I think you have to realize that humans are not exactly the same everywhere, and they are trained differently, even from childhood.
And, you know, so that's really important.
Right.
Well, and you know, it's interesting.
I've traveled a lot around the world.
I've been blessed to go to 48 countries and I've lived in three.
And the thing that struck me about it was how similar people really were.
I mean...
There's that other side.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, watch the Korean and Japanese and Chinese films closely and you'll see how similar we are in our emotional life.
I mean, it's fascinating.
But our costumes are very different.
It's manifested, you know, in the characters.
And of course, the actors are really extremely skilled in this way of revealing their feelings or hiding their feelings.
But you still get the message.
And that is a really wonderful thing.
I mean, I think the emotionality of humans is, which is our heart, is, you know, is one of our biggest gifts that we have.
I hope that it gets actualized more in the future of humanity, actually.
I think, you know, I just feel like it's going to.
I mean, I'm pretty intuitive.
I really haven't trained it as well as I might have.
But, you know, I just think, I just don't get this sense of doom and gloom, right?
People are like, oh, you're always so, you know, like, happy.
I'm like, well, what good does it do me to be down in the dumps?
Of course I get down in the dumps.
I agree with that.
I am actually very optimistic about the future.
Yeah.
I mean, I had a really terrible experience.
I went up to Gainesville.
Attorney Lee Dundas, who's actually out from Orange County, where she resides, to fight this case in Alachua County, Florida.
this poor girl has been being abused for 10 years by her dad who's a cop and by her paternal or yeah her paternal stepfather grandfather for 10 years and they just the court just awarded her joint cut him joint custody unsupervised and um and so we're trying to like raise awareness
i mean like january is human trafficking awareness month and people don't want to talk about it because they don't want to recognize that it exists or i don't know
but I think it's a super important issue because You know, to your point, I mean even though the reptilians eat their young and there's no ethical issue about eating humans for them, I get that, but we really don't want them taking our children and we certainly don't want our children Ending up on the adrenochrome highway or anyone's children to end up there.
And so I think it's super important that we talk about it.
We recognize it exists.
And by the way, it's not just, you know, it's sexual abuse.
of mainly girls but also boys but some estimate it's like one in two girls are sexually abused in some form or fashion in their younger years and we really need to bring some awareness around this and it's happening in places that you wouldn't imagine and it's being sponsored by our government.
And our child protective services.
I actually have a situation in Sarasota right now that Leah Dundas is working on where there's a mom of four kids.
Her ex-husband is trafficking the children.
And they've put her in jail twice.
Wow.
In a mom.
Right?
So, you know, we have a very corrupt...
You know, government.
And, you know, I don't know, like, maybe, you know, we've got about 10 minutes left.
How do you see the, how do you see this, you know, you're very intuitive.
How do you see this all working?
Is there martial law?
Do we burn it all down?
Do we, you know, get a fresh sheet of paper and just start new with our Constitution?
How do you think this thing actually works out in the end?
That's a big question.
I kind of have covered a bit of that, just saying that when I look into the future, for example, I have seen that we are still battling negative aliens who have actually infested the earth of their underground bases and so on.
So we are trying to get rid of, in a sense, an infestation.
They're also taken over, a lot of the Illuminati who follow them and so on.
So there's a rebalancing that has to happen on Earth.
I've also talked about, I put in an article recently, a lot of people don't understand that Earth needs to unify in terms of our approach to other planets.
Right now, people don't know this, but the UN has a division that is actually making treaties with various alien races on our behalf without any input from the public.
None.
Zero.
So what that means is because we're so non-unified on a worldwide scheme that aliens that come to this planet can divide and conquer us very easily because we're already divided.
OK, so this is where we actually are working towards a one Earth government that can deal using all aspects of all the different races and all the different countries and negotiate with the alien races that are coming here to invade us.
OK, in some cases and visit us.
So if there's no governing body, so to speak.
We cannot deal.
We can simply be divided.
And we'll be at war with each other and never, you know, it's like never looking up, in essence.
And letting other people, which is a secret space program, secret government, completely control us.
So, and they are making all our decisions.
And a lot of our future has already been decided in some ways by these, by this program and the people that run it.
Okay, so the...
Rulership of the planet Earth is coming into the fore.
And that is what Trump is going to also be challenging and bringing forward.
Ultimately, what we're going to have is some kind of a committee, a rule by committee that's going to involve beings from each country, whatever.
This is going to be a very important development that's going to happen.
In order to enter the galactic community as one Earth and having a say and a unified say is what's going to be required.
As long as we're at war with each other and we can be divided and conquered and it will continue just the way it is because we are constantly invaded, constantly torn apart by even Visiting and conquering races.
So this is where the secret space program secret government is coming to the fore.
We need to have oversight with them.
We need to be scrutinizing them and everything and decision they make.
And we need to understand what alien races are running that division of our...
Of our world government, in essence, that already exists without our say, without, you know, because people are so blind.
They're so busy saying, are aliens real?
When they're ruling our lives and entering, you know, in and dividing us and conquering us every which way.
Okay.
So it, to me, it's a complete absurdity.
No one really understands what's really going on because they won't look above their heads and see that we are part of a galactic community.
And what does that require you to be a much more aware being rather than just having your head in the sand, getting locked into religious nonsense and sold down the river because you simply won't look up.
It's insane.
Right.
Question from the audience.
What if Trump is also a plant working in unison with those we seek to displace and defeat?
So what if he turns out to be a bad guy?
What's next?
He's not going to.
Listen, you know, if you cannot use what resonates, your heart and mind, and understand that this man operates from the heart.
And so does John, you know, John Jr. And there's a reason why they're best friends.
And Wano Savin is on the air every single day talking about what their philosophy is, what they want to do, exposing things that he can't expose.
I mean, secrecy has actually stunted the growth of humanity up to now, okay?
And they are aware of it.
The Secret Space Program is aware of that.
So this is part of the reason why disclosure is coming now and being forced, is so that we can start to grow beyond the limitations that have been imposed on us by mind control, television, religion, schools that deaden your creativity, etc.
So we have to break apart all these foundations.
Our world has rested on in so long because they're stunted.
They live on lies.
The history books are full of lies.
They don't tell you the truth.
It's just a fact.
So what can I say?
I think it's a great new world.
I think that we all have to embrace.
The future and understand that we need to review every decision that has ever been made for humanity because it's so based on lies and propaganda and secrecy.
Yeah, secrecy.
It's repugnant in the words of JFK Sr. Repugnant to a civilized society.
So, well, with that, any final words?
We're just about out of time here, Carrie, and we'll definitely...
I think that that sort of says...
You know, please do go to my substack, read my articles.
I delve into all the mysteries that I can.
Can you just put in the chat, if you don't mind, and I'll have Vanessa put it underneath the show notes, your portal where you can be contacted.
That's CamelotPortal.tv?
It's ProjectCamelotPortal.com Project.
Okay.
If you could put it in.
That way we won't mess it up.
And I encourage people to donate.
I also would ask anybody watching tonight to donate to People for People because this is a user-supported network.
And without any donations, it goes away.
So go to peopleforpeople.ning.com and click the donate button for whatever you can.
And then go to Project Camelot.
I guess I don't have access to it.
I did put it over here on the right-hand side of our chat, all my links.
So I might have even put it up one more than once because I didn't think it was working.
So you could grab that and copy and paste it into the chat because I don't have access to the chat right now.
Weird.
Okay.
Yeah, fine.
We'll get it done.
Yeah, I have it up on my PowerPoint, too.
Well, listen, I'm so...
I was so relieved to hear that your home was safe.
Yeah.
You were safe.
That's the most important thing.
Pets, if you have any, are safe.
And I was really encouraged to hear that.
And look, it's all going to work out.
And yeah, there are going to be some difficult times.
But, you know, we are...
We are all one.
You know, we are, and you know, people are a little freaked out maybe that it's another new world order kind of an agenda, but I think what you're saying is, is that...
You know, we really do need to unite.
And all of those little lines dividing the country are all arbitrary anyway.
So, you know, I think that it'll be exciting to see what happens.
Popcorn, as Juan is always saying, you know, we'll have to have some more popcorn and see what happens next.
Well, I think it's important to understand that, you know, the countries are not going away.
But the way the Illuminati view our countries is not at all like that.
Regular people do.
Okay, so as far as they're concerned, one man runs North and South America.
One man runs, you know, the entire European Union, everything, including Britain.
And one person handles Africa and one person...
I mean, they have divided up our world in a completely different way than you realize.
So whether you like it or not, they've done it.
OK, it's done deal in and do our thing.
OK, and I believe that Trump and the White Hats are inspired by John F. Kennedy, you know, the father of John Jr., who is still alive.
And this is where they're headed is is to a better world.
And so I support them.
Nice, nice.
All right, perfect.
And oh, and for anybody local here in St. Petersburg, Florida, we have a Spirit Fest coming up this weekend, Saturday and Sunday at the St. Petersburg Coliseum.
And so I'll have a booth there and a bunch of my friends who are also into...
Really very long and deep followers of Carrie.
My friend Cheryl Arbogast is going to be there with her Tesla table.
And so if anybody's in the area, please do come and visit in St. Petersburg, Florida this weekend.
So thank you so much, Carrie.
I always appreciate speaking with you and look forward to the time when I can actually see you in person again.
Okay, that'd be great.
And yeah, I always enjoy your very probing questions.
I'm just curious, you know.
You know, quite an interesting person yourself.
Well, thank you.
All right, my dear.
Have a great night.
And until the next time, we'll definitely get you back on.
I think by April, end of April, we'll have some better traction on what's going to happen.
What do you think?
Maybe.
You know, I think I just take it day by day right now.
But yeah, I mean, maybe, you know, once Trump is in office, I think the direction will be more clear.
And a lot of the naysayers may find themselves sort of left behind because they don't understand.
They're seeing something good as opposed to something bad for a change.
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