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KERRY, JEAN-CLAUDE AND JOE: WACKY WOO SHOW

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	Music playing everyone, I'm Jean-Claude at Beyond Mystic and welcome to this Sunday night edition of the Wacky Woo.
	Thank you so much everyone for joining me and please welcome Kerry Cassidy.
	You can find her of course on her Amazon page here.
	She is the author of The Rebel Gene, Secret Space and the Future of Humanity.
	You can find her also on her website at projectcamelotportal.com.
	Kerry, welcome back to the show.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	I'm good.
	Nice to meet you.
	Nice to have you on, Kerry.
	Excited for this conversation tonight.
	And folks, also please join me in welcoming Joe, Jasonip4.
	You can reach him here at Jasonip4 on YouTube and also on his Patreon at patreon.com forward slash Jasonip4.
	Joe, welcome back to the show.
	How are you, man?
	Yep, doing pretty good.
	Doing pretty good.
	You guys excited for this brand new world shaping behind just below our feet?
	It appears that things are getting crazier and crazier by the day.
	We just had this UAP conference and this is the conversation we're going to be drilling into this evening.
	Thank you so much everyone for joining us here in the live chat.
	We are triple casting at the moment on YouTube X and also here on Rumble.
	We are going to be cutting the YouTube feed maybe within 10 or 20 minutes or so, so please do come and join us on X and on Rumble for the full No Holds Barred conversation.
	Before we start, I wanted to share this with you guys.
	First of all, a big apology for running late.
	We crashed kind of just as we went...
	Live before the show.
	And as you can see on the screen, there's still half of my slide deck missing here.
	Hopefully we'll be able to repopulate that here as we go live tonight.
	We're doing it live, guys.
	So essentially my first question to both of my guests this evening, and that'll give me time to repopulate the deck here, is what you guys feel about this Trump administration and how that relates to the UFO file.
	Now, Joe, as you're on the screen now, the second administration for Trump, presumably perhaps the third term here.
	We can get debate into that in just a moment.
	But this time around, it appears to be very much different.
	His cabinet picks so far seem to indicate that he's not messing around.
	And it appears that we're going to see some very, very big changes soon.
	Now, there are a lot of people on the opposite side of the fence who are arguing with some of the appointments and who believe that maybe Trump is the new boss, same as the old boss, so to speak.
	Where do you stand on that right now, Joe?
	Are you cautiously optimistic with this win?
	And what do you see how this administration can have an impact here on the UFO file, Joe?
	I'm not cautiously optimistic.
	I'm totally optimistic.
	Like...
	Again, the whole thing, the Trump, the Time Traveler book and Barron Trump thing in the 1800s.
	Remember, it was a few years ago, and it was like, oh, it's 70 years, seven days, seven months, seven weeks.
	All these sevens were coming in with him.
	You know, with Entheos talking about, you know, like, your kids, you don't know it yet, but your kids, your kids' kids, the kids' kids' kids' kids are going to be talking about President Trump in the future, trust me, you know, and not for negative reasons, and I believe him.
	Um...
	Yeah, you saw his cabinet picks.
	Like, he's not playing around.
	It's just, like, heavy hitter, heavy hitter, heavy hitter, heavy hitter across the board.
	Everything.
	It's like, God, he's, you know, just, you know, of course, the left is freaking out.
	Oh, we can't let that call you.
	You know, Adam Schiff is running his mouth, all these people, and I'm going, I don't...
	It doesn't matter.
	I just don't see them having the power that they've had.
	I think it's going to go away, like he keeps talking about.
	The golden age, we're going to have a golden age.
	I totally believe it.
	It's time.
	Again, the whole 20...
	I was talking with her a minute ago about a guest she had on a long time ago on her show, Dr. Violette.
	And he was talking about super wave theory and she's like, oh, you know, 2012 is right around the corner.
	There's that.
	He goes, well, you know, it's about time for this alignment with the center of the galaxy.
	So yeah, he goes, I can't put a date on it, but it's definitely like we're overdue.
	It's ready.
	But all of that I think, again, the ages and everything, you know, these 2,000-something odd time frames of these different ages we go through, like, it's time.
	It's time for the beginning of, you know, the new age, so to speak.
	And I don't mean new age, new age, just the new age we're entering into, age of Aquarius.
	And...
	I'm just, again, it's almost like divine providence.
	Yes, he's there.
	Yes, he's going to do it.
	Yes, he's going to win.
	Yes, check off all the boxes.
	It's just like it's written in stone, practically.
	So I'm totally optimistic about it.
	It's very karmic, indeed.
	I remember you and I doing probably our first show five years ago, and we said something to the effect that we don't know that we've won yet, and those guys don't know that they've lost yet, right?
	So we seem to be entering that period of time now.
	Gary, as I'm rebuilding the slide deck here live for the show, I have that first shot there I wanted to show the audience members.
	Let me ask you the same question also.
	This new administration here seems to have the win beneath its wings, so to speak here.
	We're seeing an amazing team being put together.
	But at the same time, this last UAP conference from the last week seemed to suggest that it's the same old players asking the same old stupid questions.
	And for our audience members, we're a little bit disappointed from that.
	We'd like to see this go a little bit further.
	Now, what's your take?
	Where is Trump going to go here on the UFO file?
	Kerry?
	Well, I think he is definitely going to change the world.
	I think that he's already doing that.
	I have had dreams of the future.
	My dreams of the future did say he would win.
	What's kind of interesting is the way he won is not what I thought it would be.
	And I think that's true of a lot of people that in some ways it seemed too easy, too smooth, Something's up.
	And so I just don't know where we're headed at the moment.
	I also get the feeling that we changed timelines.
	So we had a timeline jump.
	And what I'm noticing is there is a split.
	In the world, people that are talking about stuff, because I have people coming at me, and they're all obsessed with what, in essence, feels like the old timeline.
	And they're throwing the stuff at me, how doom and gloom, and this and that.
	And basically, it doesn't resonate.
	It's not feeling like that's where we're headed anymore.
	And so it really does feel like we went through a jump.
	Even through, I was talking to a friend of mine, I said, It's almost like going through a Stargate.
	We're partway through the Stargate, but we haven't come out the other side.
	So we don't know what the other side looks like or where we're going to land.
	So it's really a sort of sensation like that.
	And I feel like his...
	Yeah, I love his pics.
	I think, you know, he's right on it.
	And I was doing a show with Lewis Herms, and he brought up a point that a White Hat had told him...
	about what the pics are all about so a lot of people are like all paranoid saying they're all Zionists and you know Greg Reese made a video the thing is that what they don't realize is how number one is how the white hats operate and so they have a method to their madness in a sense so they're what they do is they'll get one who's on one side of the street and they'll get another one who will balance them And so that's a lot what's going to go on behind the scenes
	here between the different players that he's bringing out.
	And I think what we're going to have is people that are straight shooters that are willing to tell him what they really think.
	And that's what we need more than anything.
	So we don't need bullish bullshitters.
	And that goes for the UAP hearing as well.
	So you didn't ask me that yet.
	But anyway, just saying that, no, I'm really happy.
	I feel really upbeat about the future at the moment.
	And now I know there's a prediction out there, which it actually started at the end of July, where Cliff High said, you know, a 9-11 type event.
	And Dick Algeir at the same time said the same thing.
	That was end of July.
	People don't remember.
	But fast forward to recently, he said it again.
	I don't know if he remembers that he said the same thing.
	It didn't happen last time and it hasn't happened yet.
	But sure, Juana said over and over again a Cuban Missile Crisis type event.
	Not happened.
	Okay, maybe this is all in the offing.
	You know, we haven't come up to those moments yet.
	But I think we have to stay, you know, awake and aware.
	But if you're asking me how I feel, I feel great.
	I feel very positive.
	Look, I can extend what I'm saying in terms of Trump because Trump, his uncle, and the connection to Tesla, that's his Trump card, okay, that he brings to the world, that they won't and they can't kill him because of that.
	So people that are seeing all this stuff, all these attacks on him, yes, they're attacking him to show that they can do so.
	They're trying to flex their muscle And throw shit at him, but they're not trying to actually kill him because, again, the Trump card.
	And that may be related back to the Barron Trump thing and the whole thing.
	There's also the situation which is that this is what Juan has talked about many times, which is that Trump was mentored by Nixon and Nixon was Eisenhower's right hand during the Cuban Missile Crisis during the Bay of Pigs and that he was dealing with not only the Nazi paperclip scientists who had had ET interaction But at the same time, nice pick.
	But at the same time, the ET thing was huge.
	And Nixon, it was said, Nixon used to pace in his office and talk to himself.
	He couldn't get over the ET thing, which is why the CIA plotted to take him down.
	And it was a complete plot.
	The Watergate hoax is a book by Ashton And I highly recommend it.
	It doesn't even cover everything, but it really goes a long way.
	Woodward is nothing like you thought he was.
	He was trained, and there's another whistleblower come out recently, a CIA agent, who is talking about how Woodward was already read in, working for the Joint Chiefs Joint Chiefs, no less.
	Okay, so way back when.
	So he was not just like some, you know, journalist that was adventurous and so on and so forth.
	And it just goes on and on.
	I mean, the things that are going to break and that are breaking now, the truths that are coming out are changing everything.
	It very much appears that way.
	Okay, so thank you both for that first opening statement.
	I have to say that I am also very optimistic.
	I feel what you guys are feeling, it feels different in the air, so to speak.
	And to your point about going through this event horizon or this wormhole, It's kind of like we're all in this different territory and we still don't have all the tools and the discovery mechanisms to kind of feel around here in this new reality.
	So we're going to get into some of those cabinet picks.
	We're going to get into, this evening tonight, some of the quotes or video segments from the UAP conference from last week.
	But I wanted to touch on this, Joe.
	When you and I had that...
	I guess one of the first shows on the Wacky Woo, we talked about a new era of time where humanity would have to, I guess, address somehow the fact that they're not alone and to start building in themselves the capability of dealing with other races.
	And for the longest part, we've been ridiculed, marginalized, and told that this thing is nonsense, right?
	So humans don't have that reflex yet to deal with other races.
	Now, we're barely on the cusp of being able to deal with each other here on the planet, but now we're going to be perhaps on the stepping stone of having to have bigger conversations.
	Where do you think all of this is going, Joe?
	Are we there yet?
	Are these UAP conferences Baby talk, milquetoast kind of approaches here to bring people to that first fact that we're not alone.
	And two, perhaps that we are going to be entering here this sci-fi world where we are going to have relationships with other ETs, perhaps even in this lifetime.
	Where are you on that, Joe?
	Yeah, my biggest thing right now, I'm going, why?
	Boy, it just seemed like they really rushed that out so fast out of nowhere.
	Hey, we've got to have this hearing.
	Oh, my God.
	Whoa, settle down.
	I mean, why write this second?
	We already had the other one before that, which was Nothing Burger.
	And then this one, too, to me was a Nothing Burger.
	But at least this conversation is happening.
	But the back of my brain is like, yeah, don't forget about Project Bluebeam, though.
	They could be doing all this to, oh, we're going to have ET neighbors, and oh yeah, and then all of a sudden they pull that nonsense on us to try and push that away from us again.
	And our friend Tori has been saying, yeah, but what happens if the real ones show up and go, hey, you're lying on us.
	Here we are, we're real.
	Take that fake shit out of here.
	Uh-oh, they're going to be in trouble.
	You know, those who are trying to push the blue beam stuff.
	And, you know, I listen to her very carefully because I know she's in the know somehow.
	But yeah, it just seems awfully strange that all of a sudden there are just quick, rapid-fire hearings and all this stuff.
	It's weird to me, to be honest with you.
	But I mean, at least people are hearing it, right?
	The normies are going to hear this, and they may look at this and go, holy shit, that was incredible.
	And we're like, yeah, it's just like you're watching a show over there.
	But It's kind of watching the Sound of Freedom movie.
	To some extent, it did wake up a lot of the normies, the trafficking and all that.
	But for people on our channel, it's like, oh my god, they didn't go far enough.
	There's way more to have the conversation on.
	Kerry, let me ask you the same thing here.
	Do you think this UAP conference is...
	Is it a tit-for-tat for Trump?
	Are they trying to direct the narrative here?
	Are they afraid of that connection that he might have with Tesla?
	On the Joe Rogan interview, what was funny, he did bring up his uncle at the Office of Alien Property.
	And we know that when Tesla died, his uncle had access to those information.
	So he kind of said it without saying it, that perhaps his administration would have something to do with putting back on the books, so to speak, or out into the open, a lot of this, what is still today, secret technology and perhaps relegated to these USAPs, unacknowledged special access programs.
	Do you think that the UAP, just on the heels of his...
	Victory, this conference we just had, is trying to create a limited hangout to prevent him from going to where he wants to go and bringing the conversation someplace else.
	What did you make of that UAP conference?
	Well, I mean, I definitely think that Trump is, you know, got that in his background, as I said.
	As far as the UAP conference and what's happening, and let me address the blue beam, because I've been talking about this for years, and I'm going to say it again, I know a lot of people have heard, but Randy Kramer, Like back in 2019 at a conference in Yelm, Washington, in the area of Yelm, Washington.
	I was speaking there and so was he.
	And he's a Marine.
	He's still a Marine, but he claims to have been on Mars and, excuse me, and the Moon.
	And as a soldier and he was there with his handler.
	So he's still a Marine and he's basically sponsored by the Marines.
	So he went on stage to say that within three years they were going to do Project Bluebeam in order to wake up humanity and have These fake aliens and I basically and the reason they want fake aliens is so they can own the narrative and show that they can have battles with CGI and show that they can win.
	The reality is that I said how can you have I actually asked this question in the crowd and said how can you have a fake alien invasion when the real ones are here?
	And he came down off the stage, he wanted to beat me up, he lost his cool completely, and stopped right before me.
	It was all filmed on camera, and of course that never saw the light of day.
	So the reality is, and I've been saying this for years, and it's very nice to hear that Tories might be on that page as well, But the bottom line is that, exactly, we have ETs here that are good ETs and bad ETs.
	Courtney Brown is saying, they're saying in three months, the ETs have notified them by telepathy in these meetings.
	They're having him and his remote viewers saying, within three months, we're going to start a war with aliens here.
	The trouble is that our secret space program is split.
	The military is split.
	Some are bad guys.
	They got the technology from the ETs by trading humans, okay?
	That's literally what's happened.
	They're not telling you that, so that's what the abductions are all about.
	Sure, people lived through the abductions with changes and whatnot, but some of them, what they don't tell you is some of them were killed and eaten and so on and so forth.
	This is where you get the 411. Story about national parks and people disappearing and so on and so forth.
	So we're really talking about, we're right at the tip of the iceberg.
	I think the UAP, first of all, let me say that the UAP hearing didn't just come out of nowhere.
	It's been planned for months.
	So everyone knew that was paying attention to that sort of thing.
	That they were going to do the UAP hearing.
	And I do want to say that, yes, it's part of a build-up to Bluebeam because you can't have an alien invasion.
	It's kind of like when the Indians saw Columbus coming in the ships and they couldn't see, supposedly, this is the story, they couldn't see the ships because they had no frame of reference.
	So what they're trying to do is break through that barrier so that people do understand because they spent so much time telling you it was a conspiracy joke, right?
	And so many people are like in that headset because they believe everything their government tells them.
	So only the ones who are awake like me and you and everyone here Is saying, okay, well, we knew this was true, so if you're going to have a fake alien invasion, we're also going to know it's fake.
	The trouble is that bad ETs, or negative ETs as they call them, We'll get on side with the negative secret space program and probably, you know, mess things up, right?
	And they're going to come forward, do that thing.
	They can even volunteer.
	You have to understand how this this is an open.
	It's not like a theater where you're just on a stage and you're not in a little, you know, house or something.
	It's this is the whole wide world.
	ETs are here, but they're also extraterrestrials.
	They're off planet.
	They come in through portals, and that's part of what Solar Warden is all about.
	And I know I'm jumping ahead and throwing a lot of stuff out here, but it's really important to understand this is not a controlled environment where you can just say, oh, I'm going to show the people something on television and nobody else will see anything.
	It's not like that.
	We have people who are psychic, intuitive like myself, who have had contact since I was a kid, and others like that.
	Who are going to be reporting what they know.
	We have these channels, your channel, mine, everyone's, who reports this as well.
	So this is not a closed system.
	It's an open system.
	And that's actually in our favor.
	So yes, I think that's happening.
	I think the UAP hearing is a conditioning for the normies.
	I think also that they did certain things, like I was telling you, about how they're actually lying.
	You know, a lot of them did tell lies.
	We'll get to that.
	I'll play some clips later on.
	They're telling lies.
	And the reason You don't know that, partially, is because the cameras, one camera only, shooting over their head, like from the head down.
	So their head is down like that.
	You can't see their face or their micro-expressions or anything like that.
	Whereas the Congress people, they managed to have a camera that could actually show their faces.
	Sorry.
	That's okay.
	Let me bring up some of those screenshots just to show the audience members.
	I found that odd too, this camera angle for this conference.
	Again, they're looking downward and you can't really see all of their faces when they're testifying to some of these questions.
	I'll bring up the group picture as well you sent me.
	It's very odd.
	You're right.
	So is that cover for some of the lying or the expected lying at this conference?
	We'll see and we'll let you guys be the judge of that.
	We have a couple of clips we're going to share with you guys.
	But you mentioned something important, Karen.
	I don't want to go too far past it.
	You talked about this three-month period.
	That some of the remote viewers at Farsight and some other psychics were also talking about those three months.
	Now, Trump did say also, I believe it was just a week or two before the election, or maybe just a week before he won the election, he said something to the fact that he was more worried about the next three months We'll get to that later.
	Right.
	Well, let's go back to that then.
	I think it was January or February of this year.
	I had you on the show, Kerry.
	It was on the World Correspondent Show.
	And I think it's important for the audience watching the show here tonight to understand perhaps why and how we've had this turn of event here in the last number of months.
	And I have to relate back to this Antarctica meeting that had occurred I think in December or January here, so just maybe 12 months ago or at the most, where apparently a shift of decision had been made from giving the power structure to the planet towards the east and then giving it back to the west and letting Trump into office.
	Can you just very quickly recount the stage as to what whistleblower was saying that, why they're saying that, and how now we're seeing perhaps a result of that decision and those new marching orders that were given at the Antarctica meeting?
	Right.
	Okay.
	So if I have it right, Juano Savin went there and he was pretty demonstrative about his travel down there.
	And at the time, now I don't know about if I got the numbers right, but I think he said either a hundred or a thousand people from Earth.
	Went down there at the same time.
	Okay, now this was intel that I got from another source about Juan, what Juan told a group.
	So what happens is he said very little about anything about what went on, but I happened to have a guy who contacted me out of the blue who was sort of a quasi remote viewer and for some reason had remote viewed this event and saw the conference going on and saw a Nephilim come up out of the ground and in theory addressed the group.
	They were around a round table And at the same time, what happened was this event that happened where Beetlejuice was actually obscured in December.
	So they went down there, I think it was in January, and you're going to have to check my dates and all that.
	But the bottom line is in December, not at the exact same time as the meeting, but prior to that, In December, which was like a month away, the Betelgeuse was said to have an asteroid.
	Now, they called it an asteroid.
	It could have been a planetoid.
	It could have been anything.
	It could have just been a craft, a gigantic craft, which they do have.
	But it obscured the link-up between Earth and Betelgeuse.
	And what was said to have happened is that because the link-up was dropped, at that point the AI Either in charge of Mars or another planet took over and that was what the people who went down in January were told that this change had happened on planet Earth.
	Now they didn't link it to Trump's election.
	I had put out an article recently because I have whistleblowers who came to me from the Illuminati Why they come to me I don't even know but they do and they are what I call sort of defecting but they actually are still in the illuminati and at any rate they say things and they don't realize that my brain is like I don't know in a way it just isn't like a computer because I remember if you tell me something 12 years ago I'm going to remember okay so
	I have whistleblowers who had told me about 12 years ago, that China was working with a different group of ETs and that no one liked them.
	That's how they put it.
	Fast forward to now, then I'm also hearing that the Illuminati had given a ton of money to United States had changed their backing basically of China and has moved it over to the US. We are not bankrupt.
	That's bullshit.
	We are actually swimming in money at this point and we are backed by this group.
	Now of course the Illuminati are not a uniform group.
	There can be factions and I don't know which faction and how many and all that.
	But I do know that this has happened.
	So what we're talking about is a kind of, even a timeline shift, not in the conventional sense that you might think of it.
	It's actually, you know, it's not like that.
	It's actually happening kind of almost Gradually in slow motion, that all of these cards have been lining up to take us in a different direction.
	And that's what I meant earlier when I said it feels like we're in a Stargate, but we haven't come out the other side, so we don't know what it looks like exactly.
	But I can tell that this is a change, and there is a change afoot.
	Now, what's interesting to me is that when Trump won, I don't know if you picked up on this, he didn't look happy.
	This is kind of weird.
	I thought he looked very subdued.
	Mm-hmm.
	And I attribute that to the possibly looking to the future, that what we have ahead of us is very, you know, intimidating, I guess you might say, right?
	Because if you're coming into everything that you've been working for all this time and then suddenly you know That there are so many of these dominoes that are going to happen.
	And that includes the arrests, you know.
	These are portentous happenings.
	So I could understand where he would seem a bit subdued about winning.
	He wants to win.
	He's happy.
	He's delirious, I'm sure.
	But you know what I'm saying?
	In the moments of his win and his winning speech, I didn't get the feeling that he was overjoyed.
	What I got is he's looking in the future and that he's very, you know, how is it going to work?
	How is it all going to come out?
	I think we're really on the verge of all of that.
	Right.
	Like the work is just now beginning.
	General Flynn said that two, three days after also on an Alex Jones interview, like now the actual work begins.
	And of course, they're referring to draining the swamp.
	I agree.
	The winning speech wasn't that hooray, yay, yay, yay.
	He did say, of course, he was going to run his campaign on promises made, promises kept.
	I thought that was very apropos of him because, you know, we've seen a lot of things, we've heard a lot of things during the campaign and that's why people were so excited about this campaign as opposed to what was being presented by the Kamala, Biden, Obama regime that just left office or that are leaving office now.
	Joe, I'm not sure how I want to go through this part here.
	So let me see if I can really find that on the slide deck.
	And again, guys, I apologize.
	We just lost most of our feed just before we went live.
	But there was this question about why Trump?
	I'll try to remember by heart here.
	Trump was having a rally just the other day, so after the election, where he was suggesting to Mike Pence that he change something in effect that the administration would start actually on November 5 or November 6 of this year.
	So that brings us back to the conversation of, we're going to go further here than the Antarctica meeting, the switching of the gears, so to speak.
	Now we have to go back to four years ago when...
	Biden took office and the continuity of government situation took hold here in the United States.
	When he's saying that right now, and apparently his check color just changed also to gray on Twitter, suggesting that there might be a change of Characterization here of his leadership moving forward.
	What do you make of that?
	Is this a first stepping stone to educating the people?
	On one hand, we have the UAP talking about the ET stuff and educating the masses, so to speak, as what's coming.
	But this idea of making his presidency active as of November 5 or 6, is that a way to bring out Perhaps the white hat, the continuity of government situation that we're in, and to start talking about a quicker transition than waiting until the inauguration day.
	What did you make of all of that?
	That was weird.
	Yeah, like, what?
	Like, I'm sorry, what?
	How do you just start like that?
	You know, doesn't the vice president have to sign off on the Electoral College and, you know, it's going to be Kamala, or is it?
	Because we've been told that, hey, they may try to pull a fast one where he steps down, gives her the presidency for a short period of time, and she needs a VP. She's going to pick Gavin Newsom.
	And as we would do totals the other day, he said, you know, if you're Gavin Newsom and you've got California since you're the governor, and let's assume this happens, are you really going to leave that position to just come into office for a month or so?
	Right.
	Like temporarily?
	Or do you plan on not leaving?
	Right.
	So you think Trump is kind of front-running that perhaps scenario that the Democrats would run to try to...
	Possibly, but I still think it's...
	Personally, I think it was going to happen.
	And I do want to mention one other thing.
	Just to change back to the Project Bluebeam for a second.
	When she was talking, I was like, oh yeah, you should probably tell her.
	I was...
	This was several months ago.
	I was just like...
	I got this psychic download.
	It was like...
	Okay, hold on, Joe.
	Just before we go too fast, I just realized I'm still running on YouTube, and we've gone pretty far already on our stuff.
	Here's the link, guys.
	If you're on YouTube, please come and join us on X or on Rumble for the full, no holds barred conversation.
	The link is down in the description box below there as well.
	So let me just disconnect the YouTube feed.
	Yes, yes, and yes, remove.
	Yep, that's good.
	Sorry about that.
	I think I kind of blew up.
	No, that's okay.
	Like I said, I'm just a little discombobulated.
	We started the show and lost the whole slide deck, and I'm trying to recoup here as we go live.
	So thank you guys for your patience here, and we'll put on a good show this evening for you guys.
	We have a lot to talk about.
	So thank you for joining us.
	So there's about 11,000 there on Rumble, and another 1,000 or so on X, and we're growing.
	Okay, so we're running fine on these two platforms.
	Go.
	Okay.
	Bill, get back to your story here.
	So she was talking about Bluebeam and the fake ET stuff, and I was like, oh yeah, I got this psychic download a while back.
	And I told everybody, I was like, I just got this out of nowhere.
	I go, You need to get, like, high-powered laser lights.
	There's something about it that you're gonna be able to say, hey, that's a fraud.
	Like, I think if you shoot the laser through whatever you're seeing, and you realize, hey, it went through that thing, like some kind of image, right?
	Like a laser would.
	It's not hitting a hard object that stops.
	Like, you'll see it go through it and be like, that's a phony, that's a fraud, you know?
	And it was like, okay, I gotta go do a video and tell everybody to get a freaking laser, you know, high-powered laser.
	So I ended up doing a video then.
	I was like, I just got this.
	I've never had something like this happen.
	Usually I get my information in dreams, but I was awake and I go, it was strong.
	I go, just get a freaking high-powered laser.
	When this happens, just point it out if you're in the area when it's happening.
	Now, back on the continuity of government type of subject.
	Yeah.
	So this Tory girl in Entheos, so this guy named Entheos, he's absolutely related, somehow tied close in with Team Trump and the White Hats, for sure.
	This guy's proven himself to me.
	I've had a few private conversations with him, or really it's a they.
	He says there's about five of them.
	He's the one that said, hey, you guys should follow Tory a while ago.
	And that's when I started following her.
	And it's like, holy shit, she's in.
	She knows.
	And no wonder why he said that.
	So I did a video because I was putting some pieces together.
	This is a while back.
	And it was before Trump left office for Biden.
	And I said, man, there's these things called presidential executive action documents, PEDs.
	Apparently, some of our presidents have used them without saying a word to anybody privately, behind the scenes.
	These are executive order type stuff that no one knows about until a hypothetical situation happens.
	Then they kick in.
	I'm going, man, are you telling me that Trump, before this election, we saw how 2020 went, and that's what I'm talking about.
	He signed some Pete's Is that what you're trying to tell us right now?
	Maybe he knew about it in advance.
	Devolution.
	Hold on, Kerry.
	He covers all of that in depth.
	Hold on, Kerry.
	Hold on.
	You broke up at the beginning.
	You're talking about Patel Patriot?
	Who did you just mention?
	Okay, go ahead.
	Say that again.
	He has a website.
	He's covered all those, Pete's, in detail.
	Years ago, about four years ago or so, he has a website, devolution.link, but yes.
	I think I've seen that.
	Yeah.
	So he documents all of that.
	Yeah.
	Now, apparently...
	So when I did the video saying, holy shit, I think he did sign these before he left office under a certain hypothetical situation.
	And what if the hypothetical situation was our country's been taken over, foreign interference in the elections, we're being invaded, essentially, right?
	Then the...
	What's that?
	The more manual thing kicks in.
	You're in occupied territory.
	All this stuff.
	And again, the 11.3...
	And 11.4Q stuff is like, oh, we all thought it was a date.
	No, it's a section of that war manual if you read it.
	So I was doing this video about it.
	Next thing I know, Anthios takes my clip and posts it.
	So I go, okay, that's his way of telling you, without telling you, what that person's saying is 100% accurate.
	So I'm going, holy shit, he signed them.
	So then it was a little later that I got some hints from him When the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago, that's what they were looking for.
	They wanted to find those documents.
	And Entheo said, sorry, the safe was empty.
	And I go, oh, shit.
	So that's what they were actually after.
	They wanted to find those peds because maybe they don't know what was in them yet.
	And if he did an executive order of some type where the military, at some level, is involved and taken over certain maybe high-level functions, I don't know, then that's in play.
	And it's been in play.
	So I'm going, no wonder why Entheos told me all that time ago he basically hinted And I'll just say it real quick for those new, it was incredible.
	I asked him, I said, dude, you know shit that's like, you'll say something way long ago and then all of a sudden it happens.
	You couldn't just know that.
	I know you're the real deal.
	Is there anything you could give me that I could share with people?
	And I'll keep you anonymous for now.
	I don't know, just something.
	And he goes, I do have something I'll tell you, but I can't tell you when.
	I won't be able to tell you when.
	I'll just tell you what it is though.
	And I go, oh shit, okay.
	And he says to me, this was before the 2020 election, right before it.
	He goes, there's going to be something that takes place and look for Melania Trump to give a speech.
	She will address the nation when she gives this speech and it will be about healing.
	That's all I can tell you.
	And I go, I'm thinking...
	Okay, you know, like, oh, shit, I was hoping for something, you know, incredible.
	Didn't sound too incredible at the time.
	So then the election happens.
	We see how they stole it.
	It was rigged and the whole January 6th fraud and all this stuff.
	But it was the January 6th fraud that caused millennia Trump to come out and say, addressing the nation, this speech about how we need to heal and the violence and all this stuff.
	And everyone's blowing my message, my emails up.
	Holy shit, Joe, it just happened.
	It just happened.
	I'm going...
	Yeah, but what does it mean?
	Why did he tell me that?
	What's the big deal?
	Like, why?
	And then I'm going, well, dude, that means they know about January 6th in advance.
	They knew, yeah.
	Which means they knew Bryden had to win in advance.
	Because without his win, January 6th can't happen.
	She can't give the speech.
	Holy shit!
	I'm like, so again, I'm like, we're watching a show.
	So if he has these executive orders...
	And I've done some research.
	I'm going, oh, Bush Jr. did one, and this person did one or two.
	And it came out way later that they even did it.
	No one knew for the longest time.
	Not Congress members, nobody.
	And it was, I think, towards the end of Trump's term in 2020, as we're entering that election time, The Congress, and again, it was a shift in these dirtbags, they were trying to push some bill through.
	I don't know if they were successful, and I don't remember now.
	But they were trying to push a bill through that had to do with, hey, if you do one of these peds, you've got to notify the committee.
	We've got to make it a law that you notify this specific committee, which was run by the deep state, so that they would know.
	And it was something like that.
	Again, I don't know if they passed it or not, but they were pushing for it.
	So I'm going, damn, putting all these little pieces together, I'm going...
	Son of a bitch.
	And as WooWooDude said, he goes, what spirit is showing me, and I don't change what they say, he never left office.
	You're waiting for him to come back.
	He never left.
	He goes, that's what they told me.
	Well, with all due respect to whoever that guy is, hello.
	We all know that, and we've known it forever.
	And let me say, the peds were there.
	Again, devolution.link documents all of this stuff.
	And a lot of people tried to get people not to look at his site and not to look at all his wonderful work.
	And, you know, you don't have to be psychic to figure this stuff out.
	It's all out there.
	Okay?
	Absolutely, Trump never left office.
	I mean, that's part of the plan.
	And that's obvious.
	He was actually voted in, if you listen to Wano Sabin, in March of 2021. The military reinstated him as CIC, Commander-in-Chief.
	Okay?
	And that was March 11th of 2021. And prior to him leaving office is when he put all those things in motion.
	So it's prior to the fake inauguration, which was a funeral of...
	Remember the fake White House stage.
	And Biden is played by four actors or more the whole time.
	Biden died.
	He literally did die right, I think, prior to the inauguration.
	So, you know, I mean, I'm sorry, but I do question that person.
	I don't know them.
	I'm just telling you, they didn't think this stuff up.
	They didn't come up with this on some psychic level.
	This was out there.
	We knew all about it.
	Yeah, but when did you know about it?
	And by the way, they're using an AI, okay?
	So they've been using an AI, they've been using the generals, they've been using psychic remote viewers, and so on, and so does the dark side.
	So you could think of the AI as looking glass, or looking glass as the early AI, and now they're, you know, fast forward to now, because we reported on looking glass technology going back to Dan Beerish, and my interviews back in, god i don't even know what 2000 2006 eight bearish it's been a while yeah hold on carrie um i want to bring this up here for the conversation too again
	we're talking to a bunch of new people coming online watching these shows trying to understand new reality performing i want to tie that i just don't like when people claim credit for stuff they they can't really claim credit for
	In this video, Joe and I were just now rebooting this Wacky Woo series a couple of months ago, and we watched this delivery by Trump where he said that basically the last four years, as horrible as they were, were necessary because now people understand when I'm about to do all of these changes to repair something, people will understand.
	And people saw that as like, oh my God, he's telling us we've been watching a movie.
	So this sets the stage for this conversation too.
	And Karen, you and I have talked about the military man on Inauguration Day on Mainstream News saying that they were there to ensure a peaceful transition to military power.
	Again, addressing these Pete articles.
	So let's go back to...
	Let's just hear it from Trump here.
	Let me see if we can get to that page again.
	It's this one here.
	Let's just hear what he actually says here, what he's asking Mike Pence to do.
	And then we'll come back and finish this segment here before we move to the next one.
	Let me play this one here.
	I think it's important.
	Maybe you should pass the bill.
	You have to start my term from November 5th, okay?
	Or November 6th, if you want.
	November 5th.
	Because the market's gone through the roof.
	Enthusiasm's doubled.
	It's doubled in the last short while.
	And I watched a liberal commentator say, you know, whether you like him or not, there seems to be a beautiful light shining over our country and even over...
	Okay, I agree about the beautiful light shining over our country.
	So he's asking Mike to do either November 5 or November 6. Do you think that it's going to play out that way, Kerry?
	And is this a move perhaps to kind of educate the rest of the world here to what we're just talking about now, this continuity of government, these executive orders being in place, and the fact that we've been watching a staged pretendency for the last four years?
	How do you think we go from those lies and that big orchestration of this big movie, To now suddenly telling the truth without making everybody pissed off all of a sudden.
	Well, I think he's heckling Pence, who's a pedo.
	So, I don't think that, you know, I mean, yes, look, that's the White Hat's plan, all right?
	The White Hat's plan was for him to actually get into office before He was voted in.
	I think they changed their plan because he was so popular to just let it happen.
	But I also think there's some extenuating circumstances that I've been pointing to.
	And there's other backing for what I'm saying, which is, I don't know if you remember, but Klaus Schwab, he basically came forward months and months before the election.
	I mean, like a year or two, even, saying, we know Trump is going to win.
	He said that and I have my whistleblowers again these are Illuminati banker type people and they told me they have already accepted that Trump was going to be president so this is how it was rolling already so a lot of it it I you know I object to this movie idea because what it does is put you in a A passive situation.
	Like the public is passive and that's absolutely not the case.
	None of this would happen without the people.
	You understand?
	The people were fully involved.
	It's not a movie.
	We're not sitting eating popcorn.
	We never have been.
	So I just object to that verbiage, okay?
	There's a lot of things that the Q thing threw out with a certain purpose.
	When they told you that you were watching a movie, what they tried to say was, number one, they're using an AI to see the future, which gives them probabilities, okay?
	But they also wanted people not to get in the way, and they still don't.
	They still don't want the people to be standing around watching while they arrest somebody at their house, that kind of thing, where there'll be, you know, a riot start and all kind of craziness go on like that.
	So that's what they were trying to do, say, stand down because we have militias and we have all kinds of people that are not going to just stand around.
	If they know what the problem is and where it is, they're going to go to that place.
	And they're going to deal with it.
	So that is what it was intended to do, I believe.
	But it's been misconstrued since then.
	And do not put the people into a passive situation.
	They haven't been.
	The people have been more active in this election and every other, you know, year.
	Since the year that Trump went into office in 2016. And that's around the world.
	And if you haven't watched the people hitting the streets in massive, massive numbers, then you don't know what's happening.
	Without group consciousness, they're dead in the water and so are the Illuminati.
	They can't do it without us.
	I totally agree.
	And I want to echo the sentiment that Joe and I are not saying that we were just watching a movie and being passive about it.
	To the contrary, we got a lot of shit in the last four years for telling people to not sit down and we talk to actually be engaged.
	Yeah, to actually be engaged.
	Yeah, to actually be engaged into the situation and take matters into their own hands and vote with their feet and with their actions.
	And I think to some extent you're absolutely right.
	We had this conversation last week with Penny Kelly and Janine also where we're suggesting that group consciousness did in fact make a difference here.
	We did move that needle and it's because we're all engaged and not necessarily watching the movie.
	So that's very important.
	You make a very good point there.
	Kerry, now Debser says, Johnson or Pence?
	Mike Johnson, did I say Pence?
	Yeah, you were saying Pence.
	I was going to correct you.
	Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House, guys.
	Sorry, I do apologize.
	Okay, let's get to the next segment here with respect to the technologies at play.
	So again, I go back to this Trump interview where he kind of alluded to his uncle, to his family being involved in some of the old Tesla information.
	And I want to bring your attention to this pay-per-view that Janine and I recorded.
	It was number four.
	So Tarot by Janine, Uncensored, episode number four.
	And this was put out May 17, 2021. Here we were being asked by the audience members.
	Oh, let me change screens for you guys.
	We were being asked by the audience members to look into the Trump family.
	And this was the wildest episode we've ever recorded, and it was probably the most sold episode on pay-per-view.
	So many things came out of that.
	A big part, of course, was the connection here.
	We went into some of the history that can be found in Wikipedia, but we dug a little bit deeper to see where these connections with this technology was.
	And the character of Melania kept coming up as off-world.
	And so did the Baron Trump character here.
	So Joe and I did a show on the Traveling Trumps and this book here, The Travel and Adventures of Little Baron Trump, maybe two years ago.
	But for now, I want to look at the technology aspect of it.
	Where do you think, when you say Trump has the Trump card here in terms of dealing with the swamp and they want him to Not necessarily die.
	They want him to stop what he's doing and stay in control.
	What in your mind, Kerry, is this trump card in terms of this technology?
	And what does he have access to that could perhaps flip the switch here moving forward?
	Well, it's sort of obvious.
	I mean, he has access to the Tesla tech and to secrets that Tesla has not been revealed so far from Tesla.
	Okay, so because his uncle had the...
	they gathered all the files, so...
	and he was front and center.
	In fact, I said this a long time ago, but the way the Illuminati work is it's like they hold a grudge forever, they plan forever, and they do pay back forever okay but they also are it's a lot like the godfather when they make a deal okay then they owe a payment okay so the payment for Trump's uncle's work with Tesla Was,
	I believe, to give Trump the presidency.
	You understand?
	So they didn't want him, of course, and they probably had a sense that perhaps he wouldn't go along with the program, which he hasn't.
	But the thing is that They made a deal and they have to hold to their deal.
	I'm just saying, these are things to be aware of.
	I think you have to know your enemy and the way they behave and the way they plan and the way they act so that you can anticipate their moves.
	And do you think when Trump put this Space Force into play that he was also starting somehow to put back on books what was presumably off books now for maybe half of a century?
	Was that the move?
	Or is that a move to force their hand eventually here to drop some of this technology moving forward?
	Like, how far are we on that scale and what can we expect moving forward?
	Because I want to say this too.
	In those last years of listening to 107, it appeared that Most of these social engineers doing these shows were content with telling everybody to not have the ET conversation, you know, that's hogwash, don't concentrate on that, concentrate on the election, concentrate on the midterms, all that stuff for the last two years, and let's put this guy back into power.
	But without actually saying how things would change.
	So it very much seems like, okay, we're going to get rid of the cabal and we're going to put this guy back into power, but everything's going to stay the same, or at least we hope they're going to stay the same.
	And when Trump said that famous line during the campaign is going to be a golden era, a lot of people were suggesting, oh, he's not actually talking about gold or financial systems.
	He's talking about drilling oil.
	Well, that's antiquated technology if he doesn't indeed have access to this Tesla stuff.
	So where are we on the timeline of him actually going that route?
	Or is that the power play that we have to fight here for the next couple of months to see what direction humanity is going to carry?
	Well, I think, first of all, Space Force was sort of putting a face on the secret space program, but also a further cover-up in a certain sense.
	And there was a consolidation, apparently, that happened behind the scenes between the Air Force and What was really going on.
	In other words, what we're talking about is, you know, well, there's a lot of things about the secret space program that are not well known.
	Like one of them that it was run more or less by Navy intel and that actually the Air Force and the Navy have been at loggerheads, if you will, and that there have been other, you know, even the Army And by the way, they've all been following different ETs, okay?
	So within our military, there has been a split.
	So Space Force was a consolidation, an effort at consolidating that for the public and also in reality.
	But in reality, it had to take a long time.
	In fact, we're still on that path.
	Now, as far as when they're going to bring forward the free technology, This is actually something that I think is going to take some time.
	And I think that Elon Musk is a big piece of that future puzzle.
	But how fast things happen also has to do with The people and what they can do.
	Now, I have some inside knowledge.
	I'm going to think about how to frame this right so that I don't, you know, I'm always loyal to my whistleblowers.
	But I was told, I think I could say this much, that if you look at the old technology, they are going to have to pay them off to basically stand down and go away.
	Yeah.
	And I've never said this, I don't think, before.
	So I don't know if I can elaborate.
	But I'm telling you that, of course, you know, these people are not naive.
	Wano Savin is dropping hints, okay?
	And he has all along.
	But he also so obfuscates what he's trying to say and what he's trying not to say that it gets completely confusing, especially if you don't know his style.
	And it's quite annoying at the same time because, you know, it's like you have to wade through the weeds in order to get to the good stuff.
	I've had a lot of shit interviewing him on my show.
	People were angry, but I'm like, no, if you really pay attention and you take the time, there's a lot of nuggets in there.
	Some nuggets, yes.
	So I do think, but he comes out and he says, we can't go directly to free energy because we have to deal with these certain other things and how many people would be unemployed worldwide, literally.
	You can't go from oil to these other things.
	Yet, there are some issues here and things that have happened like Saudi Arabia and basically What's her name?
	The ET that came forward, Sophia.
	And basically she said, I want to build androids of myself.
	I want bodies, but I want to build them myself.
	I don't want humans involved.
	This is from David Adair, his information, because he was hired by the deep state to interact with her.
	And so she told him, This is years ago, and he came on my show and we recorded this information.
	So what happens is she got her factories, she's made her bodies.
	So Saudi Arabia has made a transition, even though it used to be a bastion of oil, to AI. And the AI transition has been ongoing on our planet in a much more Leaps and bounds kind of way.
	And I have to say that Elon Musk has always been like this middleman, this bridge to hide the truth.
	His inventions are old tech.
	But he throws in things like electric cars and things.
	These are terrible, okay?
	The electric cars are absolutely even, I think Trump says.
	Well, same thing with all these rockets going to space.
	I mean, it's antiquated technology.
	But that doesn't mean Elon doesn't know the real truth.
	Okay, so he's kind of, he's a perfect person to be in the Trump administration, to be able to bring the world along at a certain pace.
	The thing is that we, you know, people like me and you, Joe, when you know, okay, you're the head of the class, you know all of it, right?
	Or you know it before they do.
	So what we have are all the slow learners that we have to bring along.
	Humanity does not If you will, ascend alone.
	We take all of the rest with us, ultimately.
	So that's what it's all about, is thinking in the biggest way possible.
	And so Trump and 107 are actually perfect guys to lead the charge because they also keep an eye on the past and bringing people along in that way.
	Yeah, and for a lot of people here on the cutting edge of the information, that's why they're frustrated sometimes with Juan's approach.
	But Juan has to hurdle a lot of cats into this conversation, and that's one hell of a job moving forward.
	Joe, let me have your take on this too.
	So speaking of Elon Musk, on one hand, he could definitely be the guy to start bringing more technology into government, bring efficiencies into government.
	But this whole Department of Government Efficiency, Doge here, is very much in my spotlight moving forward.
	Here, just a couple of days ago or yesterday, the Pentagon failed its seventh audit.
	Of course, Catherine Nelson-Pitts has been at this for a number of years and still can't track $824 billion budget, right?
	So do you think this is where Elon goes first?
	Do you think it's about technology?
	Where do you see Elon in this administration, Joe? - Because Tory has talked about this recently, it's one thing to hear my opinion, but if she's talking, I'd rather give you her opinion than mine, 'cause mine's really just an opinion of someone who doesn't really know.
	Her, on the other hand, you know, if she says something, I'm listening.
	And she's like, basically, the whole trafficking problem we have on this planet, they're tied into that.
	And that's why you're not going to be able to find some of that money.
	Because if you followed the money, uh-oh.
	Holy crap.
	So I don't think it's a technology thing.
	I think it's more or less what she's saying.
	And she also mentioned, you know, by the way, remember the Donald Grumsfeld before 9-11 interview?
	We can't track $2 trillion.
	She goes, you know what happened after that, right?
	We all forgot about it.
	9-11.
	She goes, and now this is back in the news, so...
	You know, are they going to try something here to, you know, because again, if this is leading to the trafficking stuff, and now with P. Diddy and the Epsteins and all this stuff, kind of front and center still, what?
	The government?
	The DOD? How is that?
	You know, and oh shit, you know, you can really see if you're on the deep state side, you don't want to, what do they always do?
	They take you to war.
	They attack.
	There'll be some big thing that gets you to go, oh, what's that?
	And then this is just gone.
	So, I mean...
	Didn't Biden just approve missiles into Russia today?
	Yeah, from Ukraine, exactly.
	And same with some of our allies, so to speak.
	I found articles, and I have to say that NATO was already doing that, allowing them to attack Russia.
	Going back, there are articles going back to April 2024. Yeah.
	Well, he had kind of backtracked.
	He had said yes, and then he backtracked, and then he said he was thinking about it.
	Some other allies had approved in Europe.
	And Biden doesn't do fuck all.
	So this is a distraction.
	Big distraction.
	So going back to the money thing, Joe, you were talking about, in this interview with Michael Herrera on the Sean Ryan show, I thought this was interesting.
	This is an operator here talking about an encounter he had Where he saw these containers of humans being brought to a ship or craft, not knowing if that craft was ET or government related, but he saw black ops people protecting that craft, suggesting that our government was at least aware of the operation, if not in charge of the operation and the technology at play.
	So you guys can go watch that video.
	And now when you talk about DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, Does this lead into the child trafficking, but more importantly, the off-world trafficking?
	Joe, your first thoughts, and then I want to carry on this one as well.
	I mean, you would think so, right?
	Because it's always about follow the money.
	So if you have this entity that's able to track spending and efficiency, hey, what's that for?
	They're going to be able to dig.
	It's like when these police officers beat the shit out of somebody.
	Oh, we're going to have our internal affairs look at it.
	They didn't find anything wrong.
	Of course, you guys looked at your own crime.
	Of course, you're going to find that you didn't do anything wrong.
	And that's what the DOD's been doing.
	We can't find it, but whatever.
	We're the ones in charge of bringing it up to you guys, so screw it.
	But if you can have some other entity come in that has the power to do that, and all of a sudden this stuff is softly exposed, where little breadcrumbs, and again, leads to the bigger picture, Yeah, I mean, I think at the end of the day, like Q said, you know, there'll be one thing that unites both sides, and that's the trafficking.
	Without saying it, I think they alluded to it enough, it'll be the trafficking of kids, because you could be a Democrat, a Republican, a far leftist, far right, when it comes to trafficking a child.
	What could you possibly say about the other side or something?
	You both could be on the same page on that.
	I think it leads to, again, exposure of that whole system.
	Right.
	Now, I'll come back to this here in just a second, but in the hearing, let me see if we can get to that part, actually.
	I want to play this clip first, and then we'll come back to the Sean Ryan show for my question to Kerry.
	But let's play this particular exchange here from the UAP conference.
	Let me show you that's on the right tab.
	Volume is high.
	Okay, let's play this.
	Information like this is not in the best interest of the people.
	Is that correct?
	I mean, with the caveat that, of course, I would support classification necessary to protect secrets essential to national security, but I think it's pretty obvious that there's over-classification.
	Over-classification, yes.
	And so, in most instances, if they can't tell us what, do you think at some point they'll at least tell us why?
	You know, President-elect Trump has repeatedly committed to greater transparency, both on the UAP issue, on JFK files, on COVID origins and many other things.
	So I think we need to make sure that the next administration is held accountable for that.
	Agreed.
	And this is for all four of you.
	Yes or no, please.
	I have many questions I want to get to.
	Are there any known instances of recovered materials or technologies that are not of human origin and may be connected to any advanced bioscience defense programs within the USG? I don't know.
	I wouldn't be able to answer that, ma'am.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	okay first gary is this one of the instances of perhaps lying or omitting the truth you were talking about earlier every single one lying okay but it's also um a misinterpretation i think even of her question so they you know i think lou elizondo he said i can't answer that question was a little more accurate like he has to go into a stiff a skiff to acknowledge even crash retrievals ultimately But
	we covered, you know, they covered that with Grush in the UAP, the first one, okay?
	So they don't even know what they're saying.
	All they know is they can't answer that question because it reveals everything.
	You know, it's like unbelievable.
	And did you notice how they're all looking?
	You can't see their faces, of course.
	I mean, it's just insane how they sort of orchestrated this from a visual standpoint.
	It's how they control you in your mind.
	I have a Substack article I wrote on the Herrera thing.
	I got very into Herrera.
	I asked him for an interview.
	He said yes.
	He got back to me and said no.
	They're not allowed to talk to me because I know too much.
	So Sean Ryan is their boy and so they gave him all these witnesses.
	This is a completely controlled situation going on there.
	A limited hangout.
	Yeah, but it's controlled by the government.
	I mean, definitely by the secret state.
	But can I share my screen?
	Am I allowed to do that or not?
	Yeah, if you go to the bottom and click share screen, choose the tab.
	Or I can give you the link if you want, however you want.
	I'll bring it up on the audience.
	If you go here on the right side, there's a three-people chat on the side.
	You can send me the link here.
	Okay, hold on.
	See that there?
	So this article has a picture that was in the, I think it was the Sun newspaper, I'm not sure, but that's the, yeah, this is Michael Herrera, a drawing of the craft as he described it.
	And there's an expert, I'm sorry, I forget his name, but actually he's a good friend of Michael Schrapp, the aerospace historian, and I've actually met the guy who drew this and he gets no credit, but his picture got Published everywhere.
	So just want to say, and it's been a while, so I forget the guy's name, but I think it might be on my article.
	I'm looking for it there, but keep on.
	No worries.
	So what I wanted to say about this, is it okay?
	I'm going to scroll.
	I hope it's going to still keep.
	Because what happened was, is very interesting.
	Yes, Herrera did an interview with Sean Ryan, but the reality is that Courtney Brown and his remote viewers also remote viewed his testimony.
	And him and what happened to him and it's all in this video here and this is the trailer that I've got on the screen.
	Is it showing?
	This one here?
	Okay, so that is, I highly recommend, you know, watch the trailer if you want to think about being interested.
	But the bottom line is that he was telling the complete truth.
	Okay, so they were verifying the fact that it was the truth.
	And there's a lot more to it.
	So if you want to learn more, you can read, you know, read my Substack articles, see what I have to say about it.
	But the bottom line is what we're talking about here In the revealing, in a sense, what Joe is kind of alluding to, is that the closer you, the further you go down the UAP UFO dealing with aliens, because right now they're just not talking about who's driving the craft, they're only talking about the craft, all right?
	So when you're getting there, you're going to also get into the transporting Of slave humans off the planet to other galaxies and colonization that we're doing, that we're part of, that our secret space program has made deals to make possible.
	Moving humans off Earth.
	So it's not only the traffic, it's trafficking humans, trafficking children, but it's more than that.
	And the Drenochrome Highway, of course, the P. Diddy, Epstein situation is all part of it, but it's also Again, genetically engineering, changing humans, and transporting them off planet.
	They are making plans for our future, whether we like it or not, in essence.
	Let me play this clip here, too, on the question of whether or not they're directing the conversation away from the occupants of the crafts versus the nuts and bolts.
	Here again, Elizondo is kind of evading the question, but let me just play it and we'll come back to some commentary.
	Has there been any, to your knowledge, any communication with a non-human life form?
	So the term communication is a bit of a trick word because there's verbal communication like we're having now.
	The problem is you also have nonverbal communication.
	And so I would say definitively yes, but from a nonverbal meaning.
	When a Russian reconnaissance aircraft comes into U.S. airspace, we scramble two F-22s, and we are certainly communicating intent and capability.
	I think the same goes with this.
	We have these things that are being observed over controlled US airspace, and they're not really doing a good job hiding themselves.
	They're making it pretty obvious they have the ability to even interfere with our nuclear equities and our nuclear readiness.
	So this whole conversation about being wishy-washy on the communication and going strictly to the communicating intent, is this leading more towards the conversation of prepping the audience here for Project Bluebeam?
	He referred to this mother ship that has these drones over a military bases.
	Or is this a stepping stone to redirect the conversation towards, hey, there's actually people driving these ships, and they might have some agendas, and we might want to know what those agendas are before we go forward.
	Let me ask you, Joe, your first thoughts on that exchange there.
	Do you think it's a limited hangout?
	He's trying to get to the nuts and bolts of the crafts?
	Or do you think that he's kind of alluding to Project Boobling coming up here?
	Yeah, the question is very simple, very easy to answer.
	Are we having communication with some other being or beings?
	Anyone would be either yes or no.
	Yes means you're having a conversation, whether it's psychically, verbally.
	Yeah, that's the answer.
	He doesn't talk any of that nonsense, you know, to him.
	And it's, oh no, it's the intent of our craft in the air bullshit.
	You know, completely redirecting the question to this other thing.
	He doesn't want to talk about it.
	But I remember the last UFO hearing thing that was, I don't know how long ago, it was a year ago or so?
	With David Grush?
	Maybe.
	Maybe it was.
	It was a little over a year ago.
	Yeah, and we're like, eh, it was okay.
	Nothing, like, mind-boggling.
	But if you remember, like, at that time, everyone who's being interviewed, news, this and that, they're all, well, you know, they say it's a national security issue.
	These things could have weapons.
	Like, they were trying to paint this picture of...
	Like, ET bad, plain and simple.
	And it was like, again, why are they doing that?
	And I think that was around the time I got that download about get some damn laser lights because I think they're going to try to do this.
	And again, they'll just show this big fake event that scares the shit out of everybody for whatever the reason behind it is.
	But that answer was complete nonsense.
	Are we talking to them or not?
	I drive my car down the street and I park in front of my neighbor's house and I'm letting him know I don't like his trash can sticking out too far.
	What kind of answer is this?
	This is nonsense.
	I love your approach to that, Joe.
	Yes, it's about a year ago, this last UAP conference.
	What do I have here?
	Is there a date there?
	I think it was...
	Yeah, it's about a year ago.
	At any rate, Kerry, same question again.
	And we started the show on this.
	We are going to be part humans, as it were, the real disclosure.
	We can't really accept or expect government to give us disclosure.
	Now, you've interviewed many people in your career, Kerry, who've had experiences who are already in communication with some ETs.
	And it appears now, if you look at the remote viewers, some of the psychics, more and more of those communications are happening now.
	People might remember them.
	Some people have instincts that they were probably brought on craft or they're getting dreams about it.
	And of course, we have this heightened...
	Acceleration here of all of these sightings, including the one in Miami just two days ago.
	So the disclosure part and the role of humanity in there, let's speak to that here, Kerry.
	Again, not taking it backstage here and watching a movie, but what do we need to know about how this is going to unfold and our obligation to this particular field of disclosure, Kerry?
	Well, I just put a link to a video we made, myself and Neil, who helps Camelot.
	I'm getting the 403 redirect on it.
	Your website is still down on that link you just gave me.
	Well, I just looked at it, so I don't know what's going on.
	It could be on a distributed server issue.
	It works on yours?
	Yeah.
	Try to share a screen from your side, Joe, if you can.
	I'll bring it up.
	All right, let me switch back over here.
	Anyway, just because it's a great graphic, actually, that was mentioned in that hearing.
	You know, the pilots were talking about they saw these black cubes and no one talks about it, which is fascinating.
	I believe it was the cube, you know, the Borg AI that is sending a hologram Of these black cubes to basically tell these pilots that they're watching them.
	So that's a whole fascinating angle that isn't been talked about anywhere.
	But Neil is a graphic designer and he actually made a wonderful graphic exactly as they described it.
	So the pilots described multiple sightings of black cubes.
	No one mentions it.
	It's incredible.
	So, but to get back to it, we have key clips in there and it's not that long, but it's very, you know, important clips.
	So, the question was back then...
	Our role in disclosure and not taking a back seat here and not expecting government...
	Well, okay, but let me say this.
	At the end of the clips, which I helped edit...
	Sorry about this.
	I... The last person who spoke, the last congressman, at the first hearing came to the conclusion that he was absolutely qualified to do, which is to say, do they pose a threat?
	The fact that they're interfering in our airspace, etc.
	And the answer was yes.
	A resounding yes.
	Sorry about that.
	Keep going.
	It's been the worst show with technical difficulties I've ever run.
	I don't know what's happening.
	Keep going.
	Well, probably because of what it is.
	So, I don't know what the hell's going on with my voice here.
	So, I want to make the point.
	This is not fear-mongering.
	This is fact, okay?
	If anyone interferes with our airspace, and we don't know who they are, what their intentions are, etc., they are a threat.
	And actually, to Lou Elizondo's credit, he has stressed that multiple times in his career.
	The whole reason he came forward and broke, supposedly broke with the deep state and came forward as a whistleblower and wrote his book, It's because no one is acknowledging to the degree in the public that they need to, which is the fact that there is an implied threat by certain of the ETs.
	Sure, there may be friendly ones, but whoever is invading our airspace Could be perceived as a threat.
	And military has to perceive them first as a threat until they are basically, you know, they're like guilty before proven innocent.
	You have to work from that standpoint when you're a military that has to protect a people.
	You understand that, right?
	Yeah.
	So that's where we're at.
	But the trouble with the recent...
	UIP hearing is they didn't get as far along as they did in the first one where he's literally saying bodies etc etc yes there were some misdirects in that one as well but it's very interesting it also was interesting to me how they made this really big deal about this immaculate Conception.
	Whatever they call that.
	Constellation.
	I know.
	Every time I try to get that thing out of my head.
	Constellation.
	The fact that they have a database of sightings going back.
	Of Of course they do!
	I mean, and this gets back to our Mr. X interview that happened in the very early days of Camelot, where he went into a vault.
	He was paid by actually Rockwell, that became Boeing, to go into this vault and to categorize and catalog all the data they'd sort of aggregated for, I don't know, 10 or 20 years.
	Videotapes, you know, audio tapes, you know, photographs, you name it.
	I mean, it's so funny how what we're doing is we take One step forward and three steps back with this stuff.
	Wasn't Robert Dean reading a big book like this also before he got read into the program?
	Yes.
	Exactly.
	I mean, I have all military whistleblowers.
	Hello!
	Who have spent 40 years of their life.
	You know, a lot of these people that even Fravor and everybody who came forward, they're still relatively young.
	I've got guys who are going back, you know, 40, 50, 60 years.
	Even William Tompkins, he was 90. He was 93. When he testified to us, I mean coming forward to the public.
	So these people are so, they're like they're like they're in the dark.
	They're like working their way out of a deep deep hole and they really want to avoid the blame game.
	They don't want to be blamed for the years of secrecy and they've been killing whistleblowers and even Rush has announced that he was threatened that that all his whistleblowers that he was bringing forward that they have been threatened okay This is a huge problem and,
	you know, the UAP we're supposed to put on the screen, I don't know when you're prepared to do that, that Mark McCandlish, who was killed in 20, I think it was 2022, he went, yes, he is the designer, the person who also he has, I sent you the cover of a famous aerospace magazine.
	He was an incredible aerospace designer, graphic designer.
	Yeah, that's one of his covers.
	Doing all the advanced technology, but also he drew the UAP UFO that Brad Sorenson reported seeing in a hangar at Norton Air Force Base, okay?
	So we're talking about an incredible designer.
	Well, a year before they did the first UAP hearing, or even six months, Mark McCandlish contacted Marco Rubio and got in direct contact with that congressman.
	Who is an advocate of disclosure, by the way, and told him that he would volunteer to testify.
	And what happened shortly after that is he supposedly shot himself in the head with his own shotgun, which is very difficult to do and insane.
	So they killed him.
	They suicided him.
	Okay, this is how the deep state treats you when you really have the truth and they don't want it out there.
	So this is not a laughing matter, okay?
	UFO whistleblowers have been dying and I've got lots of my whistleblowers who have died rather right after they were about to do something.
	Gordon Novell is one person, I talked about this recently, he went into the hospital with something wrong with his toe and then he suddenly died and he called me late at night right before they killed him.
	And he was telling me that he was taking his UAPARV, which is that drawing that he wanted to build with a crew that involved some of the usual suspects you don't even realize.
	I mean, he was going to take it to Saudi Arabia or somewhere.
	Then they killed him.
	I mean, because he was being given the runaround by CIA for years.
	Yeah.
	So, just saying that, you know, I don't know if I'm still on the question or not.
	No, no, yes you are and I appreciate that because the question of disclosure, we have a role to play in it and we have to demand better from our government.
	At the same time, I understand why it's taking so long.
	As you say here, they have all of these secret burials of all these bodies of all the people they've killed to keep these secrets, right?
	This is a big challenge also, I think, for the continuity of government situation to come out into the open too.
	Like, people have been lied to and at a certain point, like, who are we going to trust?
	And is this transition going to work?
	Is Trump going to be able to hold off here talking about the black gold for the next couple of months before he gets into secret technologies?
	I don't know.
	And the same thing is true here for the UFO file.
	It appears that we're doing, as you say, one step forward, three step back in a lot of cases.
	I want to stay on the money subject here, and we're going to get into crypto and what Trump was proposing and how perhaps that ties in also to the conversation.
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	Guys, we're inching closer day by day, hour by hour to this famous webbot prediction of 100k Bitcoin and all of these parties that were going to be happening here.
	So we hit 93, I think, the all-time high the other day.
	We're in a little bit of a correction now.
	We're seeing crazy numbers also for XRP. So we're on the verge here of something happening that is tied in to many other data sets.
	One of them being the death of the dollar, the death of the ability to keep secrets, and secrets revealed, Joe.
	So those data sets are very much at play here with the advent of this 100k Bitcoin that appears to be just around the corner.
	So Joe, explain to the audience members to the extent that you remember some of these data sets how that 100k party has to do with basically a new reality and us entering a sci-fi world.
	Trump this year, you and I have made some videos about it, was suggesting a Bitcoin reserve here in the United States and he also said that he wanted the United States to be An innovation hub for crypto moving forward.
	It appears that Gensler is on his way out.
	He's been stifling the development of cryptos and Reggie Middleton and the likes here for a number of years.
	And we could be on that stepping stone here to a brand new world.
	Now, tie into that, not just the sci-fi world here, but the Ability, perhaps, for humans to trade in space.
	We're not going to be doing that with the paper US dollars, for sure.
	So, how do you tie this into the conversation, Joe?
	The death of the dollar, the 100k Bitcoin parties, and the military bases also that were in withdrawal in those older WebBot data reports, Joe?
	Yeah, well, you know, we had...
	You know, Trump come out and say, look, there's not going to be any central bank digital currency with my administration.
	Ain't happening.
	Federal Reserve piss off, basically, is what I'm hearing.
	He's also mentioned the IRS. I've always wondered about those hints.
	Like, are we going to get rid of the IRS? Tory basically says, yeah, it's going away.
	The states will be responsible for collecting their own taxes, not the federal government anymore.
	And he mentioned, you know, the tariffs.
	He's like, we live off tariffs.
	No problem in this country.
	We never needed the income tax or anything.
	Joe Rogan asked that because he had said that in the Bronx rally just before the election.
	And Joe Rogan came back to that point and says, yeah, it's absolutely possible to go back to that and to remove income tax.
	So these are big changes.
	Now, I will say I had one of my dreams recently and I was holding a $50 bill and the center of it was like a big...
	You know, just like the dollar bill was rectangular, but it didn't extend to the top and the bottom.
	It only extended to the left and right side, maybe a half an inch from the top and bottom.
	And it had these real fine, tiny little lines, like little dots.
	And I thought, oh, that's an interesting security feature.
	But I remember, I mean, it was like, I'm looking at it like this close, and right away, I'm like, Why don't I see United States of America printed anywhere on this?
	Like, where's those words?
	And I'm looking.
	Oh, whatever.
	So I just look at the rest of the thing.
	I'm holding it, and I'm like, oh, that's kind of interesting.
	I didn't get the sense, though, like, oh, no, this is bad.
	This is not good.
	It was like...
	I think, again, $35, $36 trillion in debt, there's no way this can be paid off.
	I don't see how it can be paid off when we print money that we have to borrow from the Federal Reserve at interest.
	If you're borrowing a dollar at interest to pay back a dollar, you've already borrowed at interest.
	You can only keep printing more money at interest to pay it off.
	That whole thing just can't...
	No wonder why the debt just keeps going up.
	I thought, man, I got a sneaky suspicion this is going to be the North American currency.
	Where it's Canada, United States, and Mexico.
	And I don't know if they're going to call it the Amero or any of that stuff, but I just got the sense that this was a different dollar.
	It felt like it was still good.
	It felt like it was $50.
	I didn't feel like I could buy one loaf of bread with it or nothing.
	It was just like you're looking at the new currency.
	And my mind's like, where does it say United States of America?
	It doesn't really say that.
	Or if it did, it was so tiny somewhere else, I just couldn't see it.
	And I thought, well, again, if it's a North American currency, why would our name be front and center if there's three countries involved or what have you?
	Or maybe it's a block of countries.
	Maybe it's not just us three.
	But I got that.
	That was recent.
	I thought, man, how strange is that?
	And then crypto, again, with crypto, if that's how we do transactions in the future, you can't...
	Exactly do a off-the-record transaction, right?
	I mean, you can't go to someone's house and exchange dollars and things with them that nobody knows about besides you two.
	It has to be on the blockchain.
	But again, I still saw a $50 bill.
	So I'm thinking with Trump, well, there's not going to be any CBDCs and all that stuff.
	Okay, so we're going to have some kind of currency.
	One way or the other.
	And I don't know if you guys remember, but he was having his son, Don Jr., had a conversation.
	Again, I'm not sure the timing.
	It could have been a couple years ago.
	With the crypto exchange where Trump says we're going to leave the old World Bank slow banks behind?
	That one?
	No.
	He was talking with Ben Armstrong, a crypto guy that his life got turned upside down.
	It's a whole weird story with that guy.
	But nonetheless, they were having a conversation about crypto, and in particular, XRP, cross-border payments, and this and that.
	I'm going, okay, they're talking XRP. That's Donald Trump's son.
	You know, like, Entheos told me, I'm telling you guys, he told me long ago.
	Because I said, dude, you know so much stuff.
	You provide so much information, these little things.
	My people, we want to give you a donation through my Patreon or whoever.
	We want to give you a couple.
	Will you take crypto?
	And he goes, no.
	He goes, we're kind of off-grid, basically.
	He goes, we got Bitcoin a long time ago.
	Basically, my understanding, without him really saying it, was they knew their role long ago.
	They had to get off-record, off-grid, and just use Bitcoin and get a shit ton of it so that they can operate, was my understanding.
	He didn't exactly say that.
	And so I'm going, well, if that son of a bitch knew, then what else does he know?
	So I'm like, do you have any crypto picks?
	Or like, you know, do you have any advice?
	He goes, Bitcoin and XRP. And then there was a third one that was just like, he goes, this isn't really, this is like kind of a shot in the dark, you know?
	And I'm like, okay, well, forget that one.
	Bitcoin and XRP, huh?
	Okay, so I do a post on Patreon years ago.
	Hey, guys, you know, Mantheo said this.
	It was a private message he gave me, and I go, I'm just, you know, there's XRP again.
	So...
	Again, XRP is doing very well right now.
	I think it's going to go quite a bit higher than where it is right now before a nasty crash comes that kind of levels everything again.
	Right.
	But, yeah, I mean, the whole world's going to...
	There's got to be crypto house abuse for something.
	And according to Dick Algar and his people that he talks with, he's like, yeah, our guy is basically saying, you know, the real owners of this planet wanted an accounting system better than what we have, and crypto is it.
	So, it's like, okay, those of you who are going to fight it, I said this long ago, I go, you know, those of us who would be the alternative media type people talking about, stay away, New World Order!
	I go, you're going to be telling people get into it because of how much money you made.
	So, are they letting you make the money so that you're so happy and excited about it to tell everybody, oh, this is great, you know, so everybody who gets in early can make some money.
	But at the same time, you know, again, like anything, genetically modified seeds of food, They could be good or bad.
	Vaccines, real vaccines could be good or bad.
	So crypto, AI, all these things, again, it depends on who's behind it.
	A gun isn't going to kill somebody, but someone with the intention to kill somebody, they use it for a bad thing, right?
	So AI, who's programming the AI, all these things could be used for good, but you got to have that leadership from the top down.
	Like I think we're going to have with Trump that utilizes everything in that, you know, positive manner.
	You know, it's my hope anyways.
	And I've never had any kind of dreams, you know, people have asked me, have you ever had anything with Trump?
	Like, oh, shit, uh-oh, I didn't like that.
	You know, I didn't like it, you know.
	And I'm going, no.
	And I never go, you know, sometimes if it's really important, I can go to bed at night and just kind of meditate and go...
	Can you please let me know this?
	It's important.
	Okay, here's the dream.
	You got the answer.
	And it's not even a dream like, okay, I had to interpret it.
	It's like, it's important.
	Here's the answer.
	It's easy.
	Okay, thank you.
	And I've never gone to bed, like, that I can remember anyways, going, oh, tell me about Trump or ask this.
	It's like, I just get something out of nowhere about Trump.
	And I've had a bunch of dreams, you know, with him, and maybe the accident, the aviation crash that hasn't happened yet.
	I saw that, and he's not on board, but...
	I've never seen a dream where I'm going, damn, I didn't know he was about that.
	You don't think Trump is leading us in the wrong way here with this real ID program?
	He's this period on planet Earth.
	It's him.
	It can't be anybody else.
	It has to be him for reasons I may not know.
	I don't know.
	But it's got to be him.
	It's going to be him.
	It is him.
	And just let the things unfold how they have to unfold.
	Don't get crazy like some of these people.
	A rendezvous with destiny, as Cliffi calls it.
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	The coupon code there is JSNIP4. Kerry, going back to this idea of money here, and where this ties in perhaps to the space program, and going back to this Antarctica meeting, we just saw this BRICS summit here in October.
	They're introducing this new BRICS pay, basically outside of the control of the hegemony of the West, or the Western supremacy of the US dollar.
	So at some point here, as many more countries are Signing up here for the BRICS, the United States cannot be left alone, so they will have to introduce something here to compete on this world stage where these countries right now are proposing to back their currency basket here by 40% with gold and 60% with the incumbent currencies of the countries.
	Where do you see Trump in all of this, his promise to not have a centralized digital currency offered here into the country, but perhaps Moving us into this multipolar world of decentralized cryptocurrency and how does that tie in perhaps to Space Force and us having commerce and space?
	And what have your whistleblowers maybe have told you here in the last couple of years with respect to that, Kerry?
	Well, first of all, as far as I understand, the BRICS was put together by the British Crown and that they are mistakenly thinking that they are not part of it, not part of the West, which is actually not true.
	The Illuminati is fully in control behind the scenes of the BRICS. We were told that going back years.
	And the thing is that what they were all ganging up to do was, again, sort of the old scenario, which was in order, we were told in Camelot, in order for the New World Order to succeed, they had one obstacle, which was to take down the U.S. And until they could do that, they could not continue to finish their program.
	So that BRICS was brought up, again, to take down the US dollar and to create something anti.
	So this is, you know, again, an orchestration to divide and conquer, basically.
	And so what happens is The US dollar, at least according to 107, is not going away.
	It's simply going to be backed by gold like everything else.
	And not only that, but it's actually not gold only.
	It's also the natural resources and values Value things in a country which includes humanity, human labor.
	So these are actually all built into what is called the QFS, the quantum financial system that was built by the White Hats, behind the scenes, that has already been completed, was completed a couple years ago.
	That I have done multiple shows with Paladin, who is a financial forensic investigator, who also documented what was going on as best we could without revealing secrets of the QFS. But you know Charlie Ward and others have talked about it.
	So this system is standing by and they said actually at least a year or two ago that it was already operational.
	So it is the whole world.
	It's not just the bricks.
	And so it's not going to be This Illuminati dollar idea or any of that stuff either.
	Now, how it's going to play out, how they're going to reveal it, for some reason they've really stood back lately in the last year or two.
	They don't talk about the QFS at all.
	I've done multiple shows on this.
	It's on my website if you're interested.
	Just put in QFS and you'll see them.
	But I don't know why people don't know about it.
	Maybe because they just weren't paying attention a few years ago and then it went by the wayside.
	But this game that people think is happening is not happening that way.
	And what's interesting about it Hold on, hold on.
	I just want to make sure I understand you correctly.
	You're saying that they are no longer going to put forward this QFS idea because I just saw a video of Charlie Ward just last week saying that in an interview that QFS was a white hat psyop and a big distraction, throwing everybody into the loop because he's been out there saying every two, three months QFS was just activated this weekend.
	Okay, appreciate that.
	But it wasn't a distraction.
	It was real.
	And you can see multiple videos where he's backing it like a crazy man.
	So what I'm trying to say here is...
	I understand that he was backing it for years.
	Now he's just...
	I don't care.
	You have to understand who Charlie Ward is and the whole background, okay?
	He is a guy who worked for the dark side for many, many years.
	I interviewed him, all right?
	And I can tell you that he is basically, he was moving money for years for the Illuminati.
	All right, then he changed sides.
	I think the White Hats got something on him and basically persuaded him to come on their side.
	He was the one who brought the planes into the Vatican and moved the gold out.
	Apparently he was part of that orchestration.
	But he has a background.
	His genetics are related to Aleister Crowley.
	He goes back to that.
	And there's a whole story about him.
	So he's not all white.
	He's not all black.
	He's definitely a mixture.
	So when he flips, that doesn't You can't follow him.
	That's my point of view.
	You simply have to understand he's a voice out there, like Ben Fulford, who's run by the Triad.
	You can listen to what they have to say, but you have to understand the background.
	Who is running these people?
	All I'm telling you is I have documented evidence Of the QFS. Now whether they roll it out or they don't roll it out, that's not the point.
	The point is they built it and that it does involve everyone on planet Earth, not just the BRICS over here in the United States over there.
	And what do you mean when you say documented evidence?
	Are you talking about how it connects to the old system and bridges over to the new?
	Are you talking about Paladin?
	He's a forensic financial investigator and shows I did with him where he explains all about it.
	I even have, you know, slides about it.
	I mean, you can do with it what you will.
	I'm simply telling you it's documented in that way.
	Whistleblower testimony, what are those people talking about at the UAP hearing, if not whistleblowers?
	You can get documented testimony of witnesses who were there on the scene.
	Paladin worked on this thing for years.
	But Paladin has also gone dark now, right?
	He's no longer reporting.
	He went dark years ago because under orders of the White Hats because they wanted it all to go dark.
	Look, I don't know.
	I remember your shows with Paladin, Kerry.
	I just don't remember him bringing forward tangible clues to where this new system would be bridged from the old system.
	I've heard everybody say that, but they never really actually show us the connections.
	And at the same time, We are looking at spycraft.
	So all of these people are misleading us in some cases, and in some cases...
	Yeah, I know, but what happens is this...
	I'm trying to tell you how...
	What they did is they went through country by country and documented their natural resources, their human resources, the gold backing, what how much they had on that end and they put it into a system and it was done painstakingly and very very accurate and he discusses this But that to me is tokenization of natural resources onto a blockchain.
	That doesn't mean QFS is the way they were portending it to be.
	Those are two very different things.
	And it's very understandable for us in crypto world to talk about tokenization of assets.
	On the one hand, there was the Illuminati version, which is the CBDC or whatever the hell they call it.
	And the other hand was the QFS. These are the two systems that have been...
	Working sort of head to head in the background as to which one would come forward.
	Where they're going to go now that Trump is actually in power and they could bring it forward, I don't know.
	I don't care what people are saying now.
	I know what was said in the past, okay, because I documented it with witness testimony.
	That's all I can tell you.
	No, no, I understand that.
	I appreciate that.
	We need to understand what was said because we're trying to figure out now exactly what you just said.
	So it's on my website.
	So it's there.
	Yeah.
	So where we're going is my question.
	If you just said in the last couple of weeks that he's against the CBDC, that would be definitely a strike against the old version of what people describe to be the QFS. And he's also saying in his interviews that he's against these slow world banks and we're going to leave them behind.
	He was talking about this new exchange that he wants to bring up to perhaps compete with some of those Wishy-washy exchanges right now that are playing favorites to their dear heart friends.
	Joe, talk about that here too.
	The war that we're seeing at the exchange level in cryptocurrency and what the Trump administration appears to be doing, moving forward here to decentralize that power with this new exchange that the Trump team wants to put forward.
	And also, one of those older WebBot data reports that suggested that Reggie Middleton, at some point, the government would go back to him hat in hand to look at his technology and bring that back onto the books.
	That's more the sci-fi world, tokenization, a blockchain open ledger, shared distributed ledger for everybody, as opposed to the centralized QFS system that people were talking about in the last couple of years.
	Unpack this for us, Joe.
	Where do you see this going?
	Yeah, first of all, I'll just ask in the chat, because I'm not really...
	Did Tori ever talk about the QFS in any kind of real detail?
	And if she did, any of you guys listening, just go, oh yeah, Joe, this is what she said, if you can.
	So we'll just kind of monitor the chat a little bit.
	Yeah, let's poll.
	There's about 15,000 there on Rumble, and there are 2,000 on Twitter.
	So let's poll.
	If...
	Someone remembers her saying, oh yeah, I remember watching her show and she said such and such, you know, that would be great because she does a lot of shows and hours long and I'm glad I can't catch them all.
	It's just too much time, you know, that I don't have.
	And sometimes there's great information that I just didn't get to catch.
	So, yeah, as far as the, you know, we have, you know, Cliff's high data from long ago, you know, about this kind of stuff.
	But JC, didn't he...
	He said they were going to try the CDBC, it was going to fail, and then try again, it was going to fail again.
	Well, both the WebBot data, the remote viewers, and also Jim Sinclair, more Illuminati kind of background, had said that there were going to be three resets.
	But they didn't necessarily say QFS. They would say that they would start with this digital asset currency, or perhaps a new revaluation.
	CBDC, but not QFS. They were talking about CBDC, a central bank-issued digital currency.
	Yeah.
	And what was your question again?
	I kind of got a little bit off.
	My question is, where do you see the Trump administration going forward, given the fact that he said no to CBDC, that he's looking at a Bitcoin's perhaps gold attached strategic reserve, and that his last statement about leaving the old world banks behind.
	He doesn't seem to be playing the QFS route.
	And now we have the WebBot data...
	Actually, that's not true.
	The QFS doesn't have anything to do with those banks.
	You're not understanding what the QFS is about.
	Well, people who talk about the QFS talk about this quantum system and quantum computers, and quantum computers do batch work.
	They don't get networked.
	So again, they're not showing you how these quantum computers who are typically set up to do specific batch works are not networked.
	Well, that might very well be, but I have yet to see any people documenting how we've put infrastructure in place and satellites in place with computers that are networked that are typically built to do batch work into a network format.
	That's what I'm looking at.
	If that exists, then please do show us the schematics of that and some of the investment that we're already put in the last couple of years to that effect.
	And nobody really answers that.
	But Joe, going back to the web bot about...
	Reggie Middleton bringing his technology back into play.
	Where do you think Trump is going?
	Is he a dark hat or a white hat?
	Again, I've never got anything in my dreams.
	Here's the thing.
	If I ever got something in my dreams about Trump and it was like, oh shit, I don't want to have to say this.
	I would still bite my, whatever, tongue, my ego and go, you know what, guys?
	Listen, I know I've been pro-Trump, blah, blah, blah, but man, I saw him getting onto this blah, blah, blah, you know, and I just have to say it, but I've never, ever gotten anything like that, so I don't think he's any kind of black hat or anything, but again, the CFTC was ran by Gary Gensler a long time ago, then he left to run Hillary Clinton's campaign as the finance guy, Then he came back into the Security and Exchange Commission as its head.
	Now he was the head of the CFTC. Now he's the head of the SEC. So again, this is not a good white hat guy.
	This guy is a deep state stooge.
	And he may be out, like you mentioned earlier, he may be on his way out because he realizes Trump's not going to want me around.
	And he may be going away.
	But if you put the right people in the right positions...
	And anything can work.
	So let's just assume all the people that the SEC has attacked...
	And force them to pay penalties and fines and all this shit that we all know is illegal.
	And they're playing favorites.
	We're going to go after this crypto guy, but we're not going to go after those crypto guys.
	And this stock company, whatever, that came up with stocks or shares, and we're not going to do that one.
	They've been doing that shit forever.
	It's like lawfare against Trump.
	They're doing the same shit against companies and people that they go, we just want your effing money.
	So pay up, sucker, like the mafia.
	That's all the SEC is.
	So if the SEC is dealt with Trump could go back and go, you know what?
	Reggie Middleton or this one.
	Gensler is retiring now.
	It's being covered, but he's out in three weeks from now.
	So big change.
	So he's a done deal.
	Yeah.
	So you could have, you know, where it's like, okay, well, let's right some of the wrongs that the SEC did.
	And Reggie Middleton, you're absolutely one of those people with Veritasium that you got F in the A and you shouldn't have.
	So how do we fix it with this guy?
	He has this great technology.
	He's got some patents.
	Let's use his On the whatever new exchanges or new stock markets you know you could be dealing with again everything's gonna be on the blockchain so the way you buy stocks and everything it's all gonna be on the blockchain at some point so they may want a technology like his that are good for exchanges and that's kind of their way of saying yeah that you know the bad guys aren't in control of the SEC anymore on the blockchain Hello.
	You know, I have to say that they've already thought of all this, so it's not like they started yesterday.
	And Trump, I don't think, it sounds like you don't realize that Trump is a white hat.
	I mean, you don't get that?
	Say that again?
	I'm addressing Jean-Claude.
	You keep saying that, well, Trump, we don't know if he's a white hat.
	He's a white hat.
	Hello?
	No, no, no, I didn't say that.
	I'm very much on the side of this is an upwind for humanity with this particular win, and I like what he's saying about decentralized finance.
	No, I mean that Trump is the head of the White Hat military organization that 107 is also one of the top officers of, and this is a secret military organization called the White Hats.
	You and I have had many conversations about that.
	I understand that.
	What's at play here is I'm asking whether or not his statements in the last three months are precluding the QFS reality more towards a decentralized financial system that Joe and I are talking about.
	That's what I'm trying to understand with his comments about the Bitcoin strategic reserve.
	The goldback currency, the fact that he wants to leave all the old banks behind, but at the same time, never, ever, ever touches anything on the quantum financial system narrative standpoint.
	It's a secret.
	But so is the space program, and he's been giving hints about it.
	And so as Trump is giving hints about the space program, about the Tesla technology, he is also now giving hints about the financial system that is going to form by Lower Feet, what he just talked about making this gold era moving forward.
	And that's what we're trying to decode.
	What does he mean by all of that, given that we have the BRICS that are trying to compete with him, and now also the fact that this administration is going to look at all of these We can get to the reality that all of our stock markets are fake and that somebody has their thumb on the balance scale.
	And this is why the Veritasium software is very important moving forward.
	I'm trying to tie that in to some of these WebBot data predictions to see where we find ourselves in time, because we had the Joe Rogan interview in the WebBot data, we had the $600 silver in the WebBot data that hasn't occurred yet, but the $100K party Bitcoin is just around the corner.
	We're almost there now, to some extent, it's already happening here in Canada in our currency.
	So things are telling me now that these temporal markers are all converging at this time, and we're just trying to decode where this is going.
	So Joe, Going back to the silver stuff, the $600 silver, where are we on that timeline?
	We're just seeing now...
	Go ahead.
	I kind of want to comment on the QFS. I've heard about it too, but everything that, for example, Trump has hinted, and he throws out lots of hints, He's never ever mentioned anything of that nature that I'm aware of.
	But he has absolutely talked a lot about crypto type stuff, blockchain ledger type stuff, a lot.
	And very specifically, you know, where you didn't have to guess what he was saying, you know.
	So it's like, okay, well, it looks like we're kind of going to that, not this quantum financial system because he's not even...
	You seem to think they're two different things and they're not.
	And they're one thing.
	Well, we understand the technology behind the blockchain and the distributed servers on the planet and the open ledger.
	What we cannot see and what we've asked for all of these people who are talking about the QFS is, where does that QFS tie into that network?
	Nobody's given us those details yet.
	And when they said it's documented, they talk about it documented, but they don't tell us the connection.
	Like the hardware and stuff.
	Again, you can go back and listen to the interviews I did with Paladin.
	He's the financial guy.
	Yes, but he didn't give the connection as to how the QSS was being tied into the blockchain.
	Hello?
	Are you hearing me?
	Yes, I can hear you, but Paladin didn't give details as to how the QSS was tied into the blockchain.
	Blockchain is, it's built on the blockchain.
	Hello?
	I'm saying that for the fourth time.
	But where?
	How does it tie in?
	We can show you how Bitcoin, Ethereum ties into the blockchain.
	I'm not a techie.
	I don't know how they work it.
	I know that it is built on the blockchain.
	Some of these people saying that never show you how it's connected.
	Whereas if we're going to have a conversation about the blockchain and different cryptocurrencies and how they sit on it and how we transact, we can see all of the distributed nodes around the planet and those connection points.
	And then we see the bridges, which is what BRICS is trying to do and other initiatives are trying to do to bridge in and out of those connections through the old banking system and into the new system.
	Nobody has explained those bridges and those connections with the QFS. That's our question here.
	I understand, but I'm not a technical person.
	I can't tell you that.
	I can tell you it's built on the blockchain.
	So, understanding, and I did tell you how they've already gone through painstakingly and figured out where each country sits and so on and so forth.
	Now, beyond that, you need to listen to Paladin because he's the expert, okay?
	So, you know, that's all I can tell you.
	I can't answer your question the way you'd like it to be answered.
	No, I appreciate that, but this is why we're trying to do these decode shows is to understand where all of this is going.
	The important thing about, to me anyways, and Joe maybe you can chime in, when they talk about these quantum computers being part of this new technology backing the QFS, They cannot show us where these quantum computers are being networked.
	That's the big issue.
	We understand quantum computers being batch processing units.
	They're individualized.
	They're, by the very nature of their operation, disconnected from a network.
	And so if these are part of the QFS, we need to understand how they tie in.
	And if nobody can show us how they tie in, then I would suggest that the nomenclature of these quantum computers being used It's a fallacy or a misdirect.
	And maybe there's something else in there.
	That's what we're trying to decode.
	Well, I have been telling you that it's built off planet.
	It's running off planet.
	I did tell you that.
	But that goes back to my question about, okay, we have things that are off world right now that we can track.
	But this we cannot track.
	We have not...
	Other than the Paladin interviews, which is going into as much detail as they were willing to release at that point.
	So these things are not opposites.
	They are actually, it's kind of like incorporating everything.
	So, but you have to go listen to that because the way you're asking the question and the way I'm answering, we're not meeting in the middle.
	So, you know, You and I could do a whole other show on the Paladin interviews.
	I've watched every single one of them and I thought he was very good at decoding a lot of the secrets that had been revealed on the off-book ledger of the banking system and how they had tracked that, tracked all the crimes, and how the new system needed to address that.
	I'm totally on board with all of that.
	But he was talking about, as far as I understood, tokenization of natural resources on the blockchain.
	That is very different to the proselytizers of QFS over the last four years.
	Two very different conversations, and I'm trying to figure out where that meets, if any.
	And right now, what we're seeing is a lot of the people who were promoting QFS in the last couple of years, just in the last three weeks, are abandoning it, saying, oh, it was just a white hat up, we're moving to something else.
	So Joe, let's go back to the $600 silver.
	Where are we on that timeline?
	That was also tied into us leaving military bases around the world.
	It was tied into the implosion of the Democratic Party, which we're seeing in real time right now.
	It was also tied into government buildings being looted because of food riots and stuff like that, and then secrets revealed.
	Tie that in to the audience members here, because we're seeing now those dollar a day moves in silver in the last couple of weeks.
	I interviewed Andy Shekman and David Morgan, the silver guru, just last week, and he says, man, we're in different territories.
	Something is definitely broken in the background here, too.
	And we could get, as Cliff High was saying here, to unobtainium very, very soon in that data set here for November 6th moving onward.
	We had all of these words related to wars on silver, wars on the silver-to-gold ratio, Russia and Japan warring on the silver prices also, suggesting that, again, coming out of the BRICS, Russia came out and said, we are going to put the COMEX and the LME out of the market rigging business.
	So something is new here on the silver and gold front.
	Joe, where does this go?
	Yeah, and again, we've talked about the rigged silver price forever, the CFTC, again, under Gary Gensler.
	We've looked into this.
	We had a, whatever, two-, three-year-long investigation.
	There's nothing to see here.
	And then all of a sudden, some people at JPMorgan Chase got caught, admitted it.
	Yeah, we've been rigging the effing metals markets.
	And it was like, hey, I thought you guys investigated that.
	What happened?
	Now there's guys who got a little slap on the wrist over it.
	So it's all commodities, right?
	We rig oil every single day.
	Lindsey Williams told us that.
	We rig the price of oil on the markets every day.
	It's not Saudi Arabia.
	It's not supply and demand.
	We go to the commodities market with these paper contracts.
	No real oils moving, no real gold and silvers moving, no food, corn, wheat, none of it.
	I played all that shit back in the day on the commodities market thinking I could make a couple bucks and then I found out The riggers can slam the price of silver down in an instant and clean your entire account out, and then you owe them money, even.
	So that was one of my awakenings to figuring out how that shit worked.
	So, I mean, with Cliff High's data, we know there's these things called temporal markers, and the temporal marker typically isn't important in and of itself.
	It's just, if this happens...
	This bigger thing that you should be concerned about is going to happen because it's tied into it.
	So when you see this, get ready for that.
	And again, his timing, oh, it's going to be the summer, it'll be the winter, blah, blah, blah.
	And then the years go by.
	Okay, I guess that was a miss.
	And then all of a sudden, like we talked about over the last couple of years, holy shit, we need to get his data from 2015, 16, and 17. What the hell?
	It's all coming true now all of a sudden, you know, years later.
	So that caught our eye.
	But You know, this Joe Rogan thing.
	That was a big one.
	You know, Naki said the other day, 39 days to melee fighting or whatever.
	And again, that's going to be in early December, if I recall, of something.
	So what's that going to even be about?
	What's going to happen?
	December 3rd, I think, was the date, temporarily speaking there.
	I think I'm sorry, the 3rd.
	So, you know, there's the web bot.
	Well, he talked about $600 silver.
	And everyone's all, win silver, win silver.
	And everyone's like, and he's like, look.
	You guys constantly ask me that.
	Do you know the kind of world you're going to be in when silver is $600?
	It's actually not going to be real pretty.
	That's the whole point of it hitting $600.
	And of course, some people just shrunk it off anyways.
	They don't care.
	I still want $600 silver.
	But that implies your dollar is becoming quite worthless.
	If you got $600 silver, and he mentioned there will be a dollar a day move, $2 a day moves, then $5, and then you're going to see $20 per day moves in silver.
	So if we got the Russians and that group over there saying, hey, we're going to take your commodities market out because you guys rigged the price of everything, I think they're probably going to do it.
	And it might be, again, it might be one of these plans.
	Remember when Trump and Putin playing past the ball?
	You know, I think...
	No proof, but I think between him, Trump, Putin, and even President Xi of China, there's going to be things that happen and have happened that needed to happen, but not really, we don't want Trump to be in power, make it look bad on him, and that sort of thing.
	But there's things that just have to happen, and they're going to happen.
	And it might be one of those things where the dollar has to take a crap We can play the blame game.
	We're going to blame China for the COVID vaccine or the virus.
	We owe them trillions, but then they kill the people.
	There's going to be this nonsense that's happening behind the scenes.
	At the end of the day, there's going to be currency wars, I think, going on.
	Again, I stand by that there's $36 trillion in debt.
	Each dollar that is printed that we need to borrow from our own selves, if you will, the Federal Reserve, has to come out at interest.
	We have to sell bonds to other people to buy them, and we pay interest.
	And if they don't step up, now the Federal Reserve themselves is stepping up to buy it.
	Well, how are they buying it?
	They'll just make up money and buy it.
	So, this whole thing can't just be paid off, in my mind.
	The way the system was designed, you have to charge interest on a bond and pay that 10-year, 15, 20, 30-year bond at interest constantly, and then, okay, the bond's paid off, here's your money back.
	We have to keep printing more money at interest to pay that first interest back, so you can never get out of this, in my mind.
	How do you get out of it?
	You have to let a big, giant thing happen to where we have to default somehow.
	And I'm going, okay, yeah, now you know why you have a new $50 bill.
	Now you know why it's $600 silver.
	So there's going to be a period of time where, yeah, things are going to be super expensive, some of these assets.
	And it's going to be a little bit scary.
	But again, with Trump at the helm, Let the effing thing burn down.
	Birth is not painful, right?
	When a woman gives birth, then we're going through our birth pains.
	I think we're going to go through some major birth pains here to get into this so-called golden age he talks about.
	But these old systems that you can't just go, oh, let's just tweak this and slowly let it die off.
	You can't let $36 trillion slowly die off and we'll pay you guys.
	Yeah, trust me.
	Yeah.
	With what, exactly?
	You know, we don't want to give up our gold.
	I know that much.
	Right.
	Well, one thing is clear.
	Moving forward, we're going into a new system.
	We're seeing all of these different systems that are competing for this new reality.
	And it appears very much so when you look at the remote viewers, the psychics out there, that there is still some pain to be had.
	And there's going to be a lot of unintended consequences.
	On that note, on the financial system here, if you want to hedge your bets, let's hear here from Mr. Andy Shekman.
	Hey guys, it's Andy Schechtman here.
	Hope you guys are enjoying the show.
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	Man, we're already at the two-hour mark.
	A fascinating conversation.
	A very healthy and vigorous debate.
	Thank you to you both.
	Before we go, let me start with you, Joe.
	Words of wisdom here.
	Lots of changes coming up.
	There's still perhaps some unintended consequences in this reality.
	We still might have to deal with this blue beam, fake alien invasion, or real contention also with ETs here moving up in our world.
	What do you say to your audience members here to navigate, stay grounded, and stay in this spiritual battle here a little bit longer with us?
	Joe?
	Yeah, just quickly, I thought, you know, Tori does have a website, ToriSays.com, and I went there because you can search for keywords and everything.
	And I go, let me just type in QFS. There's got to be something.
	And I'm going, oh, wow, zero posts for QFS. So...
	Don't know if that means anything or not.
	I'm going to try to, because I do have her number, I'm going to try and text her after this and just say, hey, what's the QFS? Is this real?
	Is it nonsense?
	Was it something and I was changed?
	What are your thoughts?
	Because if anybody knows, I know it's going to be her.
	Her and Entheos are pretty much the same kind of team, if you will.
	And I'd just like to see what she says about it, and then whatever, I'll just let you guys know.
	But as far, again, what was the last thing you're asking me?
	A lot of unintended consequences, Joe, moving forward.
	How do we stay in the spiritual fight and not rest on our laurels, so to speak, give the runner a chance here at Trump, but also stay in the fight?
	What's your advice?
	Yeah, you know, again, I realized in two months he's supposed to step into office and, you know, they're vowing to not let him in and all this.
	And again, we talked earlier about I think we may see Biden step out for some reason or another.
	Kamala comes in very briefly.
	She picks Gavin Newsom.
	Again, they don't intend on leaving.
	So I think we're going to have some serious turmoil coming.
	I had a dream about the Enola Gay recently.
	It was the same night I had the dream about the $50 bill.
	And I was in that plane, an old-ass plane, and the pilot could not get it off the ground when he was taken off.
	And we crashed into a fence, and it never lifted off.
	And I heard loud and clear, Enola Gay.
	And I woke up and I go, I know that.
	That's a plane.
	I don't remember the story, though.
	So the next morning when I got up, It's the plane that dropped the bomb, the A-bomb or whatever, on Hiroshima.
	And I go, ooh, what are you showing me in the dream spirit?
	Are you letting me know, hey, something's going to go down?
	Or are you saying they're going to attempt it, but it's not going to go off because the plane couldn't get off?
	I don't know.
	So there was some interpretation.
	But again, I think we have some issues coming up.
	These people are not just going to want to give it up, so to speak.
	And Tori's been hinting about the arrest coming soon, finally.
	And I'm going, oh shit.
	She's like, oh, we're going to get Christmas early?
	And I thought, oh, you know, okay.
	But then again, he's also mentioned in certain calendars, you know, Christmas is actually in February or something, you know, so I'm like, I don't freaking know.
	But if those people start getting arrested, we finally see it.
	Holy shit, James Comey.
	I've had dreams about him getting arrested.
	Same with John Brennan.
	Same with Hillary.
	I've had the dreams.
	And I'm going, okay, I know what I saw.
	It would be the perfect opportunity for those other ones to go, you know what?
	Let's go ahead and do something major.
	And maybe there is some kind of bomb that's offshore.
	Again, I've seen New York flooding in some of my dreams multiple times.
	Major disaster.
	It was going to be referred to as worse than 9-11.
	I'm going...
	Okay, what the hell is that?
	So I think that's going to happen.
	And if you're in some area where there's some issue, the lights go out, whatever it may be, I've always said this, you should have canned goods and things, have some water, enough to last you at least a few days at a bare minimum.
	I'd be a lot more comfortable if I knew you had three or four weeks worth of canned goods and water and things at your houses, because I do think the lights are going to go out for a number of days as part of this.
	But don't be in fear.
	Again, you have a lot to look forward to as things start to progress after Trump is in office and whatever the hell either does or doesn't happen here shortly.
	I feel like something is.
	There are certain things that are so big, you could try to pray it away, you could try to go do something about it, but there's...
	Earth-changing things that sometimes are going to happen that it's just like some of these things are just going to happen, whatever that may be, including natural disasters and such.
	And you should just be prepared for these things.
	That's all.
	Don't live in fear.
	Don't be scared to go do something.
	But when that storm came through here and the gas stations came back online and there was nobody who showed up for work and all these people with gasoline cars...
	Trying to get gas, couldn't get gas.
	I'm like, well, I got a Tesla.
	I plugged in at home.
	I was fine.
	But at the same time, the power goes out, electric goes out, gas stations go out one way or the other.
	The interesting thing that I never saw before was, okay, the power's back on.
	Usually, immediately, the gas stations are back up.
	And people, they're like, no one's there.
	And then finally, people start showing up a couple days later to work.
	After the power had already been restored.
	And it's like, okay, now that's...
	And then, well, the gas pumps are still offline.
	Why?
	And I never figured out why.
	But you can go in and buy junk drinks and shit in there, and that was it.
	Well, okay, but why can't you turn the gas pumps back on?
	I have no idea why that happened, and it just lines out the wazoo.
	So, again, would it hurt to have a few cans of gas at your house, in the garage?
	It'll last, you know, at least a year or more.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	I can't exactly store electricity at my house for my Tesla, so I do have a generator.
	But, you know, just the same thing I always say, you know, just be prepared.
	Have some cash on hand, you know, as well, at your house, so that if you go to the bank, and again, the banks are down, the electric's out, some cyber attack happened, and your bank account's in trouble, well, you at least got some cash on hand, and you'll be able to survive until whatever the fixes comes in.
	Very good advice.
	Joe, I appreciate that.
	And guys, again, if you're looking at getting into the crypto course, please do so here at beyondmystic.academy.
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	Yes, we call it the CryptoWoo membership, but I have the $40 a month one that people sometimes want me to do a portfolio review of their crypto or they're having trouble trying to figure out how to move something from here to there, a little bit of a technical help, things like that.
	And you can reach right out to me, your guaranteed response, guaranteed we'll have a conversation about whatever it may be and see if I can help you.
	And I post the other stuff.
	I just said, okay, look, I just kind of felt like, I think I got a number.
	It wasn't a dream.
	It was something, a friend of mine sent me a text and I go, later on it just came in like, boom, that's the number.
	And I go, oh shit.
	Okay, I think I'll put some sell orders.
	So again, course number two that we were selling on your site, teach people how to do limit orders.
	I said, guys, I just went in right now on Patreon.
	I'm like, I just went in right now and I did a limit order for XRP to sell at this price between this range.
	And I can now walk away.
	If the power goes out, if something happens, my orders will fill because they're already done.
	They're already sitting there.
	Speaking of XRP, some of your past predictions are coming to light just in the last couple of days, guys.
	Go check it out on CoinMarketCap.
	So thank you, Joe.
	I really appreciate your time here tonight.
	I know it's been a long episode, but a lot of good information and healthy debate for the audience members.
	Really appreciate your help, Joe.
	Gary, you and I have been at this for quite a number of years.
	You and I are doing interviews, and I was really excited when I interviewed you on this Rebel Gene, the book you wrote, and the interview we did about it.
	And how this really ties into these maybe last battles that we're fighting here as humans moving into this brand new territory.
	And I think you're right.
	We just went through this wormhole.
	We're into this brand new territory.
	And for a lot of humans, they're just on the verge now or they are activating their rebel genes somehow.
	Maybe it's because of these emanations from space.
	Maybe it's the commoneric effect of consciousness.
	A global consciousness moving to this higher and higher resolve here in this spiritual warfare, but your book was very timely.
	So let me ask you the same question I asked Joe in terms of advice moving forward for those people who are just now tuning into the fact that everything they thought they knew was probably fake.
	It was a really dystopian view of reality, whereas now we're looking at perhaps The advent of sci-fi world, but in order to get to that and to bridge that, we need to be involved very much so here in this spiritual warfare, and that rebel gene is very much still in humanity.
	So what would you recommend to the audience members who are just waking up to this fact of the spiritual warfare that we're in now, and the fact that the work has just really begun here in the last couple of weeks?
	Kerry?
	Well, I have to say that, you know, like I was talking about, sort of like it feels like we entered our Stargate.
	And what I'm saying is that we haven't come out the other end, so we don't know where we land.
	And so, yes, there can be all kinds of Chaos, if you will.
	I think 107 has beat that drum for a very long time and done so many shows on that.
	Telling people to prepare, telling people that, you know, it's going to be rocky.
	The strange thing is we haven't gotten there yet.
	And even though Trump is in theory, you know, in place and all of that is looking very positive.
	I have been looking at the future.
	I can say that my dreams go into the future.
	So I actually dreamed Accurately, which I had no idea at the time, in April of 2020, before the 2020 election, that Trump would win.
	But what I didn't, I realized later, of course, that he was actually going to win the 2024 election.
	And what I saw was caravans of refugees headed for the border leaving our country.
	And that indeed hasn't happened yet, but he's basically set the scene and said that's what he's going to do, one of the first things he does when he gets in office.
	So whenever that, you know, this sort of green light happens, whether it's going to be...
	See, I always thought that there would be a military intervention associated with his win.
	And that hasn't happened yet, but I think it may be gearing up behind the scenes.
	And that is also where the Project Bluebeam scenario could be the disruptor.
	And I said this on another show recently, but I also had I don't know if it was just a vision or what it was but it was kind of all strange but basically it it wrapped into the cliff high prediction back in the end of July of this of 2023 we're still in 20 I mean 24 2024 and the Dick Allgaier group remote viewing of this
	event that they keep saying and now they're repeating about some 9-11 type event but my understanding is when they remote viewed that event at least last time and it hasn't happened there were UFOs involved and that is indeed an interesting Sort of joining point of the blue bean thing which may be instigated at the same
	time they try to do this other sort of 9-11 type of event.
	And I actually saw it as a battle in which they were exchanging fire with a UFO. In other words that it wasn't you know and they if you look back at the remote viewing you can actually go through the whole thing and watch all the viewers draw their things and say what they think is going to happen and in it a lot of them had UFOs what they didn't say is the fire or
	the the 9-11 type event the fire and the whatever Was caused by the UFO or caused by a battle between a UFO and our troops.
	But I believe that that may be what happened.
	So they did suggest that it was the West Coast.
	They suggested that it could be NORAD. You know, being under attack.
	So I'm not saying I know what's going to happen or how it's going to play out.
	I'm just saying these are elements that came out during that time of the remote viewing.
	So that would suggest that we're kind of not in a smooth transition.
	We're in the middle of something that is unpredictable at best.
	And I can say that That these three months that we're in, we have to go through these three months.
	Now, interestingly, the ETs that Courtney Brown They did this meeting with ETs and the ETs were not visible but they videotaped it and they were in communication as they have often been lately on their viewings with their saying certain ETs and the ETs were saying they wanted chaos,
	they welcomed chaos during these three months because it has to do with interestingly Taking down the grid that in order for the new to come in the grid has to be taken down and it does that does align with what the White Hats have been saying all along in other words kind of prepare because the grid will be down and the fact that the White Hats have been working actually with the dark side to take
	down Banks and this and that and the other.
	In other words, the foundation is being rocked.
	And so I think we can understand that from at least that viewpoint.
	And so I think all bets are off right now and that we do need to kind of have our wits about us.
	But I also think At least what I'm seeing, I am getting people who are absolutely attached to the past who want to see like a negative timeline when that's not the timeline.
	What I have seen is celebrations in our future which haven't happened yet even though Trump is supposedly in office, you know, coming into office.
	So there is something going on and there may be sort of a reversal as you guys are talking Like, you know, that maybe, I mean, Juan did say quite a few months ago that he thought Kamala Harris might end up in office for a short duration.
	Yeah.
	Which would drive everyone crazy but technically she isn't I mean Biden her the Biden show is in office right now right this minute it's already a reality it's just that they're kind of quiet you know they're doing stupid as usual and there are things that have been in the news for like I said going back to April About NATO going into allowing,
	helping using our weaponry to go in and attack Russia.
	That's already happened.
	So it's kind of an interesting dichotomy that we're facing right now is that a lot of things that we think will happen have already happened.
	If you really examine the news cycle and all of this stuff out there, you'll see the reporting has already Come across our desk.
	So it's ongoing.
	It's kind of understanding the blending of light and dark.
	And so from my point of view, it's worth Sort of sitting back and letting the river flow and observing the river and trying to stay in the best possible place mentally, psychologically, emotionally for yourself and your family and having the supplies which help to have a certain amount of peace of mind.
	But I do remember a long time ago Duncan O'Finian who was looking at this timeline in the future and he's a super soldier for those that don't know that we interviewed many years ago and he's a psychic super soldier so he was telling what was going to happen in the future and what he saw and he said actually people need to be ready to move on an instant that you need to be able to leave the
	place you're at to go to a better place while this thing is going on whatever you could eventually maybe go back to the place where you were and this is it's kind of really interesting when you think about that because I have been looking at the North Carolina situation the people that refuse to leave are actually being infected by the toxins And it doesn't matter if they stay it out, they will be sick in the future.
	That's the horrible thing about it, you know?
	And so there's a double-edged sword in standing in place.
	Everyone has to make their own decision and you're all here for an experience and you're all going to do it the way you want to do it.
	Right.
	But just saying, I just want to throw that out because I don't hear anyone sort of saying, you might need to be prepared to move.
	Your situation, even temporarily, from one place to another.
	That's very good advice, Kerry.
	I appreciate that.
	And it's not spoken to enough.
	I think you and I have said that, though, in a previous show where we said, you're exactly where the universe wants you, and you're going to be guided to be where you're supposed to be when these events happen.
	You're absolutely right.
	But this is a very personal decision in this spiritual war.
	And speaking about keeping your body into fighting shape, let me just play this last little segment here from Ken Schwartz.
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	Thanks, Ken.
	I appreciate that.
	Kerry, Joe, I do have to give away a pyramid and some Shungite here, but you guys are welcome to stay and help me with the prize.
	I know it's already been two and a half hours, so if you have to go, by all means, a big thank you to both of you guys.
	Please do go check out Joe at patreon.com forward slash jason4, and as well, you can find Kerry Cassidy at Project Cake.
	Thank you so much, Gary, and thank you so much, Joe, for this wonderful conversation here tonight.
	Guys, we're going to be giving away this pyramid here from Carla at Ascension Organites.
	If I can get it back on the screen, it's somewhere here.
	There you go.
	Joe, do you have a question for the audience members?
	Actually, I'm on the right screen.
	This one here.
	What do you think, Joe?
	Do you want to do a question with respect to the show here tonight or movie trivia?
	What do you think?
	What Was the low price of silver I got in a dream.
	Ooh, that's a good one.
	Let me bring up the...
	So we'll let that populate there for just a sec.
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	Now, Joe, tell me when to stop the feed here for the pyramid.
	Stop.
	Okay.
	Cheryl Rogatz?
	Rogatz?
	Rogatz?
	Cheryl, you're the winner.
	Congratulations.
	Yes, six was the low point in Joe's dream.
	Hopefully, man, it goes to six and we can still back up the truck and buy some more.
	If it's the new currency and everything's reset, it may be a fair price for it.
	It may be at that point.
	Yeah, that could be interesting.
	I'd like to bridge over from current silver prices to that new currency.
	Or it could be during the time Russia decides to slam our rigged markets.
	I don't know.
	I didn't get any more information on that.
	Yeah, that's a very good one.
	Guys, go to the top page here, beyondmystic.net, fill out the tech support form there, and we'll send that out to you.
	The next thing we had to give away was the Tarot Candle here, Natural Candles by Janine and Carla here at Ascension Organites.
	Next question, Joe.
	What do you think?
	What?
	Well, does it have to be something we did cover tonight or?
	No, it could be something cool.
	You and I have talked to...
	Yeah, this is an easy one.
	You guys should know if you've listened to us before.
	What state did me and JC go do treasure hunting?
	Ooh, the state.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Speaking about that, we should have Dave back on.
	Dave's been busy with his Volkswagen stuff, man.
	He's loving life.
	I know.
	He's like traveling.
	Traveling cross-country in his Bug and his Vans.
	I know.
	What's the red bus called?
	What's it called?
	He has a name for the red one.
	Oh.
	Rusty Red?
	What's the name?
	No, Krusty or Krusty or something.
	Because he had that channel, Krusty Cars or something.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He has a beautiful old red Volkswagen bus that he's doing these group tours.
	He's enjoying retirement.
	Really happy for Dave.
	But maybe we'll do three dudes in a desert episode.
	I know Janine wanted to come on and have us tell the story and maybe we can ask her to pull some cards on some of the meanings of the weird spiritual shit.
	Let's do this.
	I'll tell you to stop.
	Ready?
	Three, two, one, stop.
	Okay.
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	Joe, back to you.
	I was getting ready here shortly to go to a very brief trip back there.
	A friend of mine, Amy, when I brought her out there with her husband two years ago, we had the helicopter out there.
	It was the one particular time it was just me and her flying in that mountain range that was not where we dig, the other one that's a beautiful park and beautiful scenery and whatever.
	So I was like drawing over there and so we're coming up to this Big peak.
	And she's like, oh my...
	My heart's tugging like Julianne said.
	Go that way.
	Go that way.
	And we go to this peak.
	And it's a damn...
	I think it's an Olmec head.
	The whole peak is an Olmec head with an open mouth cave.
	Wow.
	And I go, what the F? So we circled in and I go, I can't land this thing up here.
	Anyway, so we leave and we go a little...
	Head back to the airport because I cat it low on fuel on purpose to keep the weight down.
	And...
	Oh, let's do it again.
	Let's do it again.
	Go that way.
	We find this hill.
	I get closer.
	I'm like, man, there's giant Spanish mark rocks all over here.
	Wow.
	And we end up going behind this rock in the Jeep.
	And she's like, dig!
	Dig!
	Right here!
	Why am I doing this?
	I don't know why I'm doing this!
	Dig!
	With her hands.
	I'm like, what the?
	What are you doing?
	Well, we end up digging, and I pulled out a triangle rock.
	Yeah.
	This thick, nice and flat, right there.
	And I'm like, well, we only got two days here.
	We can't really get too involved.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, she had that little gift.
	And so she's like, you know, you've been going this year and I've been...
	God, I've been dying to go back.
	I really want to go back.
	I go, why don't you say something?
	Like, you could have come any of these times.
	Well, I didn't...
	Blah, blah, blah.
	So she's ready to go.
	So I just got a dream last night that I was up where me and my buddy Chris left off this last trip, which I believe we're finally...
	Like, I've never been closer.
	Like, I think it's about to happen soon.
	And...
	It's just me up there by myself.
	And I have one of those full-size pickaxes.
	And I just...
	One nice, hard little clump.
	Boom!
	And I go into this real soft material dirt.
	And it almost fell in a crevice.
	And I go, oh, shit!
	Like, yeah!
	Okay, what's this?
	And then, okay.
	Anyway, I get back to the house in the dream.
	And I'm like, shit, it's a couple...
	I'm here two days early.
	I didn't tell her, and I'm like, in the dream.
	So this was taking place, but this next trip I'm actually planning with her.
	So I was already in the dream, and it's like, oh, I'm here two days early.
	Shit, should I just tell her to board the plane without me since I'm already up here and I'll just get her at the airport?
	But I didn't even tell her I was coming up.
	Maybe I should just fly back, and then I'll fly with her so we're together, and I don't make her fly alone.
	And I was like, yeah, maybe I'll do that.
	So that was the dream.
	Kind of weird.
	Didn't find anything.
	But I put that damn pig in the ground and got into, like, a crevice that you could, like, get inside of if the dirt was gone.
	And I go, oh, shit.
	It, like, buried the head of the pickaxe.
	Like, it almost, almost like quicksand.
	It, like, sucked it in.
	I go...
	Wow.
	What's this?
	And I was all excited, but then, okay, change of scene.
	So, speaking of that, I'm planning with her to go back to her here shortly, maybe one more time before the year ends, you know?
	Like November, December?
	Early December?
	Yeah, like soon.
	Anytime soon.
	Oh, wow, cool.
	And the place where you saw the Olmec head while you were flying, do you know where that is?
	You can't get there.
	You can't get there unless you grab a helicopter.
	There's no trails.
	There's no paths.
	There's no roads.
	It's super steep on all sides getting up to this.
	And it's one of the sizes on the path we took to that second park.
	I know what you're talking about.
	I won't name it.
	You couldn't even walk up the thing.
	It was so damn steep.
	And it's really, really tall, like stupid tall.
	You're just not doing it.
	And I'm like, God, how did we get here?
	I go, well, there's a couple places I think I could land, but this helicopter at this altitude does not have the power.
	I don't believe.
	I'm pretty certain to fully hover and then land because of the thin air.
	So I go, yeah, we're not even going to attempt it.
	And let's just circle, take some video, go to the next thing.
	So I want to go back there with her because the last time I was there with Chris in the spot, in the dream I was digging here, she was getting some downloads.
	And I'm like, okay, I got some information.
	I need to be digging here.
	And we dug there and I go, okay, we've hit the bottom.
	I've got to go in some way.
	Which way do I go?
	And I go, I need a compass heading.
	So that night I asked for a compass heading for a dream.
	And that night I get the freaking Enola Gay and the $50 bill dream.
	And I go, okay, nothing in there was about a compass heading.
	That morning, Amy messages me out of nowhere.
	Hey!
	I got something really weird for you.
	It's for you last night, just real quick.
	It may mean absolutely nothing, but I know it's for you, and it's 41 degrees.
	I go, that's a compass heading, and that's what I asked for.
	Wow.
	I go, holy shit.
	She goes, well, okay, great.
	So we go there, 41 degrees.
	I find this rock that's hundreds of pounds.
	It's curved.
	It's been cut in a certain shape.
	And I go...
	Oh my god, I've never seen one of these ever in real life.
	I think this is a very important rock.
	I've got an email where I've stored some information about this kind of shit.
	When we get home tonight, I'll look it up and see what the hell it says.
	I know what this is, but I don't remember what the hell it means.
	If you find this kind of a shaped rock boulder, and they're typically big, and this was big, you're not only at a treasure vault, You're at the king's vault.
	Remember, we'd always thought that before.
	Yeah.
	From the 13th and the 7th.
	I go, man, I think we're at a king's vault from that.
	That is absolute confirmation.
	You are at a king's vault.
	And I go, dude, this is where they stored his royal 20 percentage, his one-fifth.
	What could be in here?
	So then she's like getting dreams.
	He goes, I see you going in like shoulders first with your buddy Chris.
	And it's like dark there, but it's light over here, so you're going in that way.
	And I'm like, shit.
	So we were trying like hell the last time, and it's like, well, you know, not yet.
	It's going to be another trip.
	So I go, okay, you're ready to go?
	She goes, yeah, let's get ready to go.
	And I go, okay, I'm going to go back for just a few days and bring your ass to a few of these little sites out there, including the main site.
	And see if you can't, you know, do your little hound dog thing and just tell me, oh yeah, you're right there, it's that way, or no, you're a few feet off, or whatever it is.
	Is your helicopter stored in New Mexico now?
	No.
	It's in Florida, you fly it there, and then you do the operation?
	I trailered it there the one time.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	On a special trailer that I had.
	With your duly?
	With your duly?
	No, I think I actually used the diesel Jeep when I talked about it.
	Oh, cool.
	But it's in for maintenance right now, the tail rotor bushing.
	I'm trying to get a hold of something, kind of a minor thing, but not something you want to keep flying if you tour out.
	Right.
	And then the attention a helicopter brings, if you're trying to be stealth, like in some of these places, it wouldn't be good to bring it.
	But the Olmec head thing...
	I could care less because there ain't no one out there.
	It's way in the middle of nowhere out there.
	And I know what I saw.
	And I go, dude.
	She goes, oh my god, we got to go in there and see what's in there.
	I'm thinking, yeah.
	I don't know how we're going to do it, but yeah.
	I need to get in there and find this damn treasure or let cryptos go apeshit here shortly.
	And then buy a damn MD-500 helicopter, get rid of that little small one, and then we're effing set.
	I can't wait, man.
	We're rolling in style.
	We're going in style with a crew.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and a personal chef.
	Like, you don't need to eat those maple syrup croissant on the fire.
	Like, come on, man.
	Do you remember at that damn restaurant, the grapevine?
	Yeah.
	That lady that was there...
	She made that damn chicken salad that was effing unbelievable, and I'd get big, giant sides of it, and we'd take it up the mountain and eat it all the damn day.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then she had a little falling out with Mario, and that was the last we ever saw her.
	And I was like, damn, man.
	I'm like, can you guys still make it?
	No, that was her recipe.
	Fuck, shit.
	I'm over at that damn taco place.
	The one up on Elephant Butte.
	Oh, the further one.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, yeah.
	And I'm looking at this lady behind the register.
	This is recently, and I'm going...
	God, what do I know?
	I know that lady.
	It was her?
	It was her.
	Oh, wow.
	She goes, how's JC and Dave?
	I'm like, fuck, she remembered her names.
	Wow.
	And I go, man, that's up to tell a little bit.
	I was like, oh my God, you have the recipe to the damn chicken salad.
	She goes, yeah, that was mine.
	She goes, I'll give you the recipe.
	Before you leave, just come see me.
	I go, oh my God.
	So she gave it to me.
	I got the recipe.
	But I was like, listen, When we come here, we're up in the mountain all day, and then we come home.
	I don't even have time to wash my car.
	We eat out, and it's too much.
	Could I maybe pay you a little?
	So you're going to pay her to cater?
	You can make me a nice batch of it one of these days?
	She goes, absolutely.
	You just call me.
	Text me.
	I go, yes!
	I was so excited about that food, man.
	You're up there cooking the shit on the little burner, the little pies.
	Yeah.
	It's like 30 degrees outside.
	You have no idea how hard, physically, mentally hard it is to be on that dig site at 7,000 feet in altitude, rough conditions, everything wants to kill you.
	It was cold.
	Yeah, yeah, it's cold.
	January.
	Everything wants to kill you.
	So when you're done, like, that eight hours of excruciating physical pain, like, you just want to eat something good, man.
	So I always try to bring stuff up on the mountain.
	We have these little, like, snacks to keep us going.
	These little treats on the little fire, little Bunsen burner thing.
	I was like, oh, that's sweet.
	We were going up one time.
	I think we were going up the path to get there.
	And it was also that January, I'm pretty certain.
	And we heard something that we thought was coming.
	So we're like, oh, stop!
	Don't move!
	Get down!
	We don't want anyone seeing us.
	And JC sits down on an effing cactus.
	All up and down his ass and leg.
	Prickers everywhere.
	And I helped pick some of that stuff out of his ass and leg.
	I had to take one for the team.
	He's like, oh!
	He's like, oh!
	I was like, oh, no.
	That's not good.
	We were just out for a while.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was bad.
	Oh, I have a picture here.
	You want me to show that to the audience?
	This is not the stuff you and I were eating, but close enough.
	I think this was the trip I went with my eldest daughter, and it was cold, man.
	The wind was so biting.
	We're on that edge.
	We're just at the edge of the sacred side here.
	And here I'm warming up some apple kind of bitters or turnovers.
	I don't know what it was, but man, they were good.
	That was some coffee.
	But yeah, it was so cold.
	I'm wearing like, I don't know, five layers there.
	It was really, really cold.
	I like going like in the spring and kind of like...
	Yeah.
	Now it's getting a little bit late in the year to where it's going to be a little cold.
	So I'm like, I'm trying to hurry up and try to plan this.
	But fall and spring are just great, great weather out there, man.
	I've been out there one time in the summer and it was not...
	It wasn't great, but up high it actually went as bad as I thought it was going to be, but I like it when it's cooler out.
	There's my daughter there.
	We're having a good time.
	Beautiful trip.
	Okay, Joe, hey man, thank you so much for all the time tonight.
	What a great show.
	Guys in the live chat also, let us know.
	Oh, this episode was a little bit fiery at points and I really appreciate that because we don't have an echo chamber in this channel.
	We want to have different opinions and the whole point of having these different points of views is to decode our reality.
	And sometimes it gets ugly, but we're all friends and we're all trying to do the same thing here and be of help to humanity.
	So leave me a comment after the show.
	Let me know how this went for you guys.
	What do you think about it?
	What the takeaway was it specifically on the monetary system here?
	This is the big trigger point for a lot of us moving forward.
	But like we said during the show here, no matter what here, big changes are coming up.
	So please don't get too married to the old systems.
	Don't get too married to so-and-so said this and that.
	It's going to be all of the above.
	And until we actually know, you need to stay nimble, you need to adapt, you need to improvise, and you need to overcome here as we go through all of these trials and tribulations here in this brand new world.
	And Joe gave some really good advice there.
	So please, go check out Joe.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	This is the third course will be coming.
	Where me and Coco show y'all how to set up a hardware wallet Trezor.
	This is the Safe 3 version.
	It can handle a lot of crypto and we're going to set one up from scratch and show you how to do it.
	Transfer and all that good stuff.
	Keeping your crypto in your own position and in a very safe way.
	So yes, that's going to be level 3. So again, guys, level 2 is available now.
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