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Aug. 13, 2024 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY LAURA EISENHOWER AND MARISA ACOCELLA

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	- Laura! - Marissa! - What time is it?
	It's Divine Mother Earth time!
	Woo-hoo!
	Hello, everybody.
	Welcome to Divine Mother Earth time.
	I am your co-host, Laura Eisenhower.
	And I'm your other co-host, Marisa Akuchella.
	And today we have one of the most important, if not the most important, Woman.
	Human.
	In disclosure, the most dangerous woman on earth and somebody I have Who's a tremendous inspiration to me and somebody I've been dying to talk to.
	And I know Laura's been really looking forward to this interview.
	So I'll just go in and talk about Carrie Lynn Cassidy is the CEO and founder of Project Camelot and Project Camelot TV Network LLC.
	She is a broadcaster, documentary filmmaker, and investigative reporter.
	I might add.
	Par excellence.
	Your investigative skills carry are unparalleled and mainstream journalists, propagandists could learn a thing or 1000 or 10,000 from you.
	For over 10 years, Carrie has been traveling the world conducting interviews.
	Excuse me, you've got an old bio.
	It's 20 years.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's my book bio, I guess.
	Yeah, it's old.
	Does it really say 10 years?
	That's weird.
	Yeah.
	And it says 15 years on.
	Okay, well.
	Let's see.
	Yeah, so it'll be 20 years in November.
	It's no worries.
	Whatever.
	Okay, well that's good to know.
	20 years.
	And that was from Amazon.
	By the way, I followed you.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Carrie travels the world conducting interviews and documenting the testimony of whistleblowers with above top secret clearances as well as authors, researchers, and experiencers covering conspiracies, the secret space program, black projects, ETs, Kundalini, and Ascension, and free energy.
	She speaks at conferences, and by the way, you were brilliant.
	Two weeks ago.
	Thank you.
	Around the world.
	Yes, we did.
	You were amazing.
	You brought the house down.
	Okay.
	Around the world and is considered one of the leaders, the leader of the disclosure movement.
	So welcome, Carrie.
	We are beyond thrilled to have you here.
	And I just, You're welcome.
	So, I've been doing a little research on you, and I've seen many, many of your interviews.
	So, I just found out, though, that you came out of my lab.
	Is that true?
	That you were born in, like, a my lab hospital?
	Well, yes.
	The way, you know, I only found this out, I don't know, Around five or 10 years ago, but I was born in Palo Alto at Moffett Field, which is a military hospital actually.
	And so I didn't know how to put all that together.
	But when I was a little kid, I actually went to what's called Ames Research Lab on a field trip with my school.
	And I just looked around and go, oh, I know this place.
	I don't know why I knew that place, but somehow I knew that place.
	So there was, you know, I have a weird birthmark on my arm and You know, I don't know.
	So I basically, yeah, I was the only kid in my family that was born in Moffett Field Hospital.
	And it is my surmise that I am on my lab because I have things about me that are different than people.
	And it's in my book.
	If you read my book, you might have figured that out.
	This is your book here, Rebel Gene.
	I just got it.
	And I love this book so much.
	Oh, great.
	I'm glad.
	Thank you.
	That's good to hear.
	Yeah, thank you for writing it.
	So I guess we wanted to basically take you through your childhood and just find out what makes you you.
	What inspired you?
	Like, you know, you came from my lab, you're a precog.
	What and what led you to become Carrie Cassidy?
	What led you on your mission?
	So?
	Well, when I was really young, I I basically knew things, and I've said this before, but my mother used to kid me, but she used to really be serious at the same time, and she used to call me know-it-all Carrie, because I would basically tell her everything.
	I would explain everything that was going on, and I would contradict her, and this and that, and I also talked back to my teachers in school.
	Got in trouble for that.
	I was a rebel, really, since I was born.
	What can I say?
	I had an unconventional childhood.
	I wasn't brought up in a religious house.
	My parents were Christians, more or less, if you want to call it that, but they were not practicing of any kind, and my father would not go to church.
	My mother Took me when I was 12 around to different churches and temples and all kinds of different places because she decided that her kids needed to have some kind of, you know, religion to learn that.
	And so I was brought along as an advisor to tell her which one to do.
	And in the end, we chose, we even went to like a Buddhist temple kind of thing.
	So in the end, she took me, we went to what's called the Unitarian Church, which is like, I think the farthest left you can get in Christianity.
	But anyway, and it only lasted for like a month or so because none of us wanted to go after that.
	But What I my experience there was that I the first thing they talked about was Akhenaten and Nefertiti and that hit me really hard and I had some kind of past life real recall of that.
	Years later I would take tours to Egypt and I would remember I actually had recall of in a very intense experience that I can tell you if you're interested, where it all came kind of back to me at a certain scene that I was in Amarna in Egypt and I had this incredible meditation.
	I started out as a meditation and then I went, I guess, into this past life and when I woke up I actually didn't even know where I was.
	I thought I was still in Amarna.
	It was so intense and so When I was a little kid it was coming back to me and then eventually I was going to go to Egypt just on a tour actually with Jordan Maxwell and William Henry were leading a tour.
	My mother had passed away.
	I had a small inheritance and I decided I wanted to go and they were going to talk about Atlantis in Egypt, the signs of Atlantis in Egypt, so I went on that trip.
	On that trip, I actually interviewed Jordan.
	When I went on that trip, I wasn't in Camelot.
	I wasn't an interviewer, but I did interview Jordan and ask him about ETs, and he told me, but he told me I could never release that video, because at the time, he didn't want anyone to know he had ET contact.
	So years later, of course, I was in Project Camelot, and then I asked him again if I could release it, because then he was talking about it.
	And so that's kind of like a side little issue.
	But my channel, I don't know what you want to call it, whatever way that I went into this other world, I was doing a joint meditation at the time with two other guys.
	And one was actually, I'm not sure what you want to call him.
	He was from, I think it was Sri Lanka.
	I'm not sure.
	It's been many, many years.
	I actually did a video with this guy, but he's something of a yogi or a yogi-in-training, whatever.
	So we did a meditation with this other friend of mine, and I think that propelled me into this amazing experience, and I found myself in a In a sort of a temple in Amarna.
	I could see the way it all used to be with the jungle around me and everything and all our family members were in this place and Nefertiti was walking up and down and I was seeing it through the eyes of one of her daughters.
	Now, I cannot say that I was her daughter.
	I'm not going to say that.
	That's what I saw.
	So I was there.
	I was fully there.
	They were trying, under a dilemma, trying to decide what to do.
	And by the way, I don't know if people know the history, but the Illuminati have tried to bury all of the stories about Akhenaten and Nefertiti and Amarna, because Akhenaten, of course, is the one who said there was one god, not many.
	and tried to break away from what is called the Old Priesthood in Egypt.
	Tutankhamun was actually adopted, but he was taken away from Nefertiti and Akhenaten.
	He was not their son, but he was supposed to be their son.
	The Old Priesthood took him away back to Luxor.
	Amarna, if you've ever been to Egypt, I know Laura has, right?
	Laura, you've been to Egypt, right?
	No, I actually haven't.
	I've been waiting for the right one.
	Oh!
	Wow.
	I thought you had.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Bigger, bigger soul history, but not this incarnation.
	Yeah, sure.
	Not in this life.
	Okay.
	But the thing is that, um, so, so the, the priests, old, the old priesthood was established in what's, what's called, um, Luxor in Egypt and along the Nile.
	And then Amarna is a completely different setting.
	And it looks right now like an atom bomb hit it all those years ago.
	So there were these electric wars back in those days that nobody talks about.
	Ashiana Dean has it in her books, if you're interested.
	Electric wars?
	What do you mean?
	That's what they call them.
	And this is kind of what we're moving into now, you know, using frequency weapons.
	And the entire, so there was, instead of having like monuments even that fell down, most of the monuments, most of the desert floor in Amarna is like wiped clean.
	It's just desert, flat, except up on the ridge there are some inlaid sort of little meditation areas which do have some relics in them.
	But that's called, that whole place is Amarna and The way I found out about it in this life was through Carmen Balta.
	You might remember her.
	She has passed on, sadly, since then.
	She was a Canadian professor who did a lot of investigation in Egypt.
	She used to lead tours.
	I went on a tour with her.
	I interviewed her on my tour.
	At the foot of the pyramids back in the day when you could do that.
	And so we actually see the pyramids in the background of my interview with her, which is quite wonderful, I think.
	And she was a brilliant woman and she wrote books and also she made a very famous video series about Egypt.
	And she stressed the importance of Amarna, how they had tried to bury all the memories of that, how the Illuminati are always trying to hide it, and so on.
	I know it's a long explanation.
	No, but that's so fascinating.
	Yeah, so that was one thing in my childhood.
	So, I was just trying to explain how I wasn't raised with the Bible.
	So, I did read the Bible when I was around 12.
	You know, I found it, I liked it, but I also questioned it.
	Of course.
	You know, because I saw that in the Bible I had Everything Jesus said was written in red.
	When I read it, I thought, well, I don't think anyone had a tape recorder back then, so I really questioned whether or not it was accurate.
	I never have seen the Bible like other people see it.
	I appreciated some of the stories and so on, and I appreciated really the Christ consciousness of it.
	So that resonated with me.
	So yeah, so like I said, then I was a rebel in school.
	One thing, my brother was sort of odd.
	He was a year and a half older than me, but I used to stand up for him and I got punched by big bullies that were trying to kick him around so I would intervene.
	And so I got punched by the school bullies and stuff.
	So I really was quite a...
	I don't know what you want to call me.
	So you were a rebel who spoke out and defended the underdog, which would be what you're doing now, defending the underdog of humanity at this point.
	Yeah, I think you could say that.
	Well, all these characteristics show in the here and now, which is amazing because it takes that kind of strength.
	Do you want to keep talking about childhood?
	I mean, that gives you a brief outline.
	Eventually, I went to college, you know, I, what do I say, I majored in sociology, and then I went to graduate school, and I So I got a BA actually in English because I couldn't figure out what to get the BA in, so I just chose English arbitrarily.
	I was studying all kinds of things.
	I was really studying, actually back in those days I was sort of into politics, so I was studying socialism, fascism, communism, feminism, you name it.
	I was writing for the For the paper.
	So I was trained as a journalist in college and taking part in, I was at a very radical school at the time, Sonoma State University.
	And so then I also went to graduate school there for sociology.
	But after a year at graduate school, I dropped out because I decided that it was wasting my time.
	And I moved to Santa Cruz where I studied Still photography with Ansel Adams, protege.
	And at the time he brought me in his office.
	He said every once in a, you know, I'm people are going to think I'm sort of crazy, but once in a teacher's life, they've come across a student that they think is, you know, got special talent, blah, blah, blah.
	And he wanted me to become like him, a still photographer.
	But I said, I'm sorry, but I want to make movies.
	So what happened was a movie came to town.
	It was actually not a very good movie, but it was called Tilt with Brooke Shields.
	I'm dating myself here.
	Um and so uh they uh I I was an extra in the movie so I got some scenes in the movie and there was a producer and and I was actually um waiting tables and working at a coffee bar in in a place called the Greenhouse which if you ever go to Santa Cruz is a very famous restaurant up on a hill it's it's like a glass house it's beautiful and I hope it's still there I don't know if it is uh and the producer said to me okay I got it This is what you got to do.
	You got to get married, have kids, settle down and be happy and you'll be in the perfect place here, Santa Cruz.
	And I said, no, I don't want to do that.
	I want to make movies and I wanted to be a director.
	I know.
	I'll explain how he did this.
	Okay.
	So he was using reverse psychology.
	So he said, you know, because you're in a perfect place, you should just settle down and be happy.
	And I said, no, I want to make movies.
	What do I do?
	And he said, well, if you really are serious about making movies, you have to move to Hollywood.
	There's nothing else to be done.
	And so I did.
	Like I went home.
	I told my boyfriend that we were leaving, that I was going to Hollywood.
	And two weeks later, I moved to Hollywood.
	So, and then I did something else very unusual in Hollywood.
	I actually started, I didn't have a job, obviously I had to find a job, so I started going around to production companies, and I'd just gotten out of college, so I had my resume, and they love you when you're just out of college, you know, fresh young thing, and so I went in person.
	This is very old-fashioned, but I, um, nobody even did this back then.
	I went in person to these production companies and I brought my resume and I said, Hi, I'm studying to be a director.
	Is there anyone who can talk to me and give me advice on how to do this?
	And I also knew that, you know, there was very few women directors, even to this day, actually.
	And so they liked that and I started getting offered jobs that I couldn't even handle.
	To run productions and things.
	I mean, Hollywood is crazy.
	They, you know, they kind of, if they like you, they'll do anything for you and stuff.
	And so I had to turn down very sophisticated production jobs at that point.
	Eventually I got a production job that way.
	And I ended up doing wardrobe on commercials and, and worked my way up in that way.
	And then eventually I did development.
	Well, that's like, I mean.
	I'm just telling you that part of it.
	And then eventually I left Hollywood and went to New York City to study acting and directing and ended up studying.
	I was supposed to go to NYU Graduate School of Film and Television that I was accepted to, but I decided after two weeks that I couldn't afford it because I'd already paid for college with a loan.
	So I didn't want to take out more loans.
	And I decided I had some kind of psychic reference to this teacher who was brilliant and he was called Robert X Modica and he was teaching a class at night in Carnegie Hall behind the main hall.
	They have all little studios where dancers go and practice dancing and singers and also actors.
	So I studied with him for around four years acting and directing, more or less directing as well.
	So And I also worked in a film production company at that time.
	And eventually, I mean, that's a long saga, but you get the idea.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I mean, it makes so much sense, though.
	What, Lauren?
	Were you starting to notice things in Hollywood and just some of the things that you reveal now?
	Well, I ended up, OK, let me tell you, I should, I guess, finish the story.
	So when eventually I left New York, Exactly four years to the day that I arrived, which was really bizarre because I didn't plan it that way.
	And I can't explain it.
	And during the time when I was in New York, I had this weird connection to Montauk and the Montauk Project.
	Okay.
	And I found out about the Montauk Project.
	Also, you know, I had been abducted as a kid and I had had psychic abilities.
	So when I was in New York, I tapped into Montauk and somehow I don't know for sure, but my understanding is that I was probably one of the kids they used.
	They tried to tap into your, you know, what's called chi or kundalini inner energy to sort of make their machine work.
	And I don't exactly understand it, but I used to have dreams at night when I would go in, I would be out somewhere and there would be sort of a grassy hillside and I would go into the hill and then I would go down and I would be there and also I was taking classes underground in New York, which I didn't know this was during my dream life.
	So I was having all kinds of weird psychic things happening in New York City.
	And then what I did in New York City was connect all my chakras through meditation.
	For a long time, I did temp work.
	And I wouldn't work a lot of the time, because I didn't like the jobs.
	So I had friends who had a big loft, and I was in my 20s, because I wasn't very practical.
	During those years at all.
	And so, so I would meditate all day and all night.
	And, you know, I didn't eat a whole lot.
	And I basically I actually did connect all my chakras.
	I had multiple Samadhi experiences.
	I had an incredible experience where I saw the whole matrix melt.
	It was incredible.
	And I, I was in this This incredible, you know, people that do this talk about this sort of, you know, after you reach a certain breakthrough, you have this feeling of Samadhi is what it's called.
	But you, in essence, kind of see the oneness in everything.
	And you walk around like everything is beautiful.
	And, you know, that's kind of where you're at.
	And so I did that.
	It was in the middle of New York City, so that was kind of a different kind of place.
	Okay, doing that in the middle of New York City is quite an achievement.
	Let's just put that.
	Wow.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Um, gosh, so then I moved back to Hollywood, as I say, and I worked for 20 years in Hollywood, working my way up in the system, writing screenplays on the side, you know, trying to break through the glass ceiling and finally could not do so because I ended up not being, you know, most young women, well, the way it was then, have to, you know, get on to the good side of it was an old boys network, as you know.
	And you basically get mentored.
	So I did learn things.
	And I did have some guys that helped me along, you know, with letters of reference and things, but I was a rebel.
	So I never from Northern California.
	And so I never really got the whole kiss up to, you know, like when they did the Me Too movement, remember?
	Yes.
	From my point of view, that was absurd, because I had been, you know, in some situations that were slightly compromising, if you I wanted it to go that way.
	But I don't know, there was something around my aura or something still is that where nobody wants to mess with me.
	And so I, I basically don't understand those women that just don't say no, you know, because I, you know, I mean, it's so obvious a guy wants you to interview you, but in his hotel room, you know, that kind of thing and stuff like that.
	Often.
	And then when it does, they don't get the career that they wanted, then all of a sudden they're a victim.
	And I'm not trying to victim shame at all.
	No, sometimes.
	I mean, I actually, I knew, what's his name?
	You know, Harvey Weinstein?
	Yeah.
	So I worked as a temp for him, but I only worked for him for a few days.
	He was a big fat guy, though.
	He could easily overpower a woman, you know, physically.
	That's true.
	And they are like that.
	I mean, he was not even unusual.
	There was a lot of guys like that.
	I mean, I actually love it.
	Yeah.
	But you've got to understand, he comes from a certain milieu, a culture.
	You know, I mean, they think that the Jew, I don't think the Jews really started Hollywood, but they certainly ran it and have run it for many, you know, nearly 100 years or whatever.
	And so he was in the power elite, the Jewish power elite, which gave him carte blanche to act like a complete asshole whenever he wanted.
	And there were lots of producers like that.
	I mean, that's just the norm.
	Was there something about him, though?
	Just being the one called out to cover up the enormity of the amount of scandals and things that are actually going on.
	Right.
	I didn't mean to say anything negative about, you know, victims.
	It's just that was the tip of the iceberg, right?
	Well, I mean, some of the women legitimately got into bad situations.
	Some of them didn't show much insight.
	And some of them also didn't know, really, and I didn't realize this because I had a very good relationship with my father.
	I was like his right hand because my brother had some developmental issues.
	So I was always credited For my intelligence being equal to a man in every way.
	I never grew up with that lesser than idea as as a woman.
	Right.
	My mother was a rebel as well in her own way.
	She was, you know, very interesting woman.
	And so What happens is that I just grew up thinking I was the equal of everyone, and I could say no, and there was no problem with me saying no.
	But I have heard from women, even during the Me Too thing, where they actually didn't learn how to say no.
	That if a man said something, they basically always said yes.
	And they didn't have a smile.
	Well, that's true.
	And I'm good friends with one of the actresses, Annabella Sciarra.
	And he came in and broke into her house and raped her.
	So that is like... That's different.
	That's not the same.
	That's an assault.
	Yeah, but that's very different than everybody else.
	And she was the one that got him, you know, put away.
	But then they reversed it.
	So anyway, yeah, but...
	It's... What you're saying, though, is true.
	I think a lot of women put themselves in that situation out of fear and desperation, and also, let's face it, sheer ambition and power, so... Yeah.
	But anyway, I don't want to get in the middle of your story.
	It's part of, like, you really want to get that career, you want to get ahead, and then you're with the person that can overpower you, and I feel for the women, because it's...
	So easy to fold, but yeah, having the patriarchal programming not talk down to you in that way was a great source of strength, so that's really good.
	Yeah, and the fact that you had your father who, in your upbringing, you were from You had that strength and guts and... Well, yeah, I didn't grow up in that kind of community, you know.
	As I say, I also didn't get promoted in Hollywood, so I couldn't become, you know, I couldn't get through that glass ceiling because there was a ticket.
	You had to pay some kind of ticket in some kind of way.
	And I also would say that a lot of people never understand, and this goes for even the child
	Um, adult sexual thing that goes on, that there is a seduction and that, you know, obviously children are victims in, in many cases, they've completely no nothing, but in the situation, some situations like in those situations, you could say with, you know, grown women and these producers, there is a seduction going on.
	You're trying to seduce them as a starlet, right?
	And get them to, be attracted to you so that they want to give you opportunities.
	At the same time, you want to, it's kind of like having a wild animal in your care.
	You, you don't want the wild animal to like overpower you, but you do want to have them there in your midst, right?
	It's that way.
	You know, if you can't, if, It's like you have to be a lion tamer in a way.
	Some of these women weren't up to the job either.
	I think women have a lot of power in situations that they don't realize they have if they're not brought up to acknowledge their power.
	And I know a lot of women.
	I mean, I've talked to a lot of women.
	Number one, they weren't treated well by their fathers.
	So they already had a sort of an antipathy between them and their fathers.
	They weren't credited with how intelligent they are, whatever it was.
	And so that also gives you like a lesser view of yourself and your own power.
	But I never had that problem.
	Thank God, because you're you.
	I mean... Well, it's not just that, but I'm saying both my parents contributed to a good self-image because, number one, my mother was quite a rebel in her own right.
	She never did what other people... In fact, my parents, their whole motto was never care what other people think and never do what other people do.
	I mean, they literally were the rebels.
	They didn't, you know, that's the way they were.
	And I internalized that.
	To some degree, my sisters and brothers did as well, but not as much as I did for whatever reason.
	So then after Hollywood and kind of seeing that, and what's wonderful is, you know, to see that and to know what an epidemic that is in our world, the way that the genders are being Kind of modeled or encouraged.
	Now we got gender confusion and it just goes on and on.
	Yeah, nuts.
	And, you know, seeing people take a stand, but also almost feeling like there's so much that's not coming to the surface that is being tossed to the side.
	This is where you've really sunk in, you know, your Your intellect, your wisdom, your ability to take these skills and abilities to expose some of the most difficult things to bring to the surface.
	That comes at a cost.
	It takes really a lot of courage.
	So you've met a lot of whistleblowers, and you don't shy away from asking the tough questions, to the point where you've been labeled a dangerous woman.
	Talk to us about that.
	Yeah, I love that.
	You said that in your talk.
	I am, considering one of the most dangerous women, I mean, out there.
	Because, well, at least people come to me and tell me.
	They tell me, I mean, even these military guys tell me.
	You know, they've been told not to talk to me.
	Juan himself told me that, as you know.
	I've said this a zillion times, but I'll say it again, if you don't know.
	Juan O'Salvin did one interview with me, in case you don't know.
	And that was three or four years ago.
	And after the interview, he told me he'd never do another interview with me because I have some special power, he says, to make him violate his security oath.
	And word got around, and Gene Decode has told me the same thing.
	And I never even interviewed Gene Decode because he won't let me interview him.
	He's a great guy.
	People watching me, I guess the military watching me over the years, interview people.
	Well, you know, there is something that does happen when I interview people.
	Especially, you know, it's a one-on-one, you know, and there's a thing that goes on with, maybe you could say, military people that do have security oaths, who Want to answer my questions because I have gotten them to feel so comfortable.
	It's almost like it's just me and them in the room, right?
	I think in their minds.
	And I think that I have, you know, there's a special, you know, we have special powers, all of us.
	And there's a special power that has to do with what's called influence.
	So what I have is the power of influence.
	And, you know, when I was younger, I used to go on job interviews and I would get hired on the spot.
	And then the person would call me back, like a few hours later when someone else has talked some sense into them or whatever it was, and apologize and say, no, I couldn't have the job.
	So this happened to me enough times where I thought, what the hell is going on here?
	You know, like one minute I'm, I'm great.
	And the next minute I'm not, you know, So what was that?
	Because I can convince people when I'm in there, I have this influence, this aura, that when I'm in their midst, that sends out this, I don't know, soothing energy, acceptance, a feeling of acceptance, whatever it happens to be.
	So they want to talk.
	They want to tell the truth.
	And telling the truth is like the greatest gift in the world, and I'm so, you know, for that.
	But when you have a security oath, obviously telling the truth is not such a good thing.
	Well, you really have, you do have that talent.
	I mean, you...
	Gotten so many people to tell the truth and give out so much information that is so valuable to humanity.
	Who do you, okay, you, and you've talked to so many whistleblowers.
	Can you tell us some of the people that you've talked to and who has given you the most information?
	Do you, who is, who, who do you think, who is like the most powerful or most important whistleblower that you've talked to or some of them anyway?
	Okay, well it's very difficult to understand because I've interviewed over 2,000 people over that and I don't even remember sometimes all of them, like right off the top of my head I have to see their name and stuff.
	But there are ones that stick out, right, as major ones.
	You know, Command Sergeant Robert O'Dean, you know, Bob Dean.
	He was already on the circuit and famous when I first interviewed him.
	But we had such a rapport that he ended up really coming out in such a way.
	He says that I made him a rock star.
	He used to joke with me all the time.
	Wow.
	Because he became even, you know, doubly popular when I interviewed him.
	And then, you know, I even had military men back then Writing to me saying they were going to come and, you know, beat me up or whatever the fuck because I, I got Bob, you know, I would say to Bob Dean, I would, I would kid him and I would, you know, prod him and stuff.
	And he was a command sergeant major.
	So what people didn't realize is that, you know, those command sergeant major is a really hard ass.
	And so he loved when I, when I would sort of goad him into To telling me the truth.
	And I used, you know, we had a very, it was a teasing, you know, it was like good feeling.
	You can watch the interviews and see.
	And then John Lear, same thing.
	I had, you know, I made John Lear very much more popular than he was at the time, I believe.
	And, you know, we had a great rapport.
	And then, you know, there were others.
	Henry Deacon, who came out under his own name, Arthur Neumann, we went on the stage together.
	I encouraged him when Bob Dean was talking in Barcelona.
	Henry Deacon was there in the audience.
	His real name was Arthur Neumann.
	And he was in the secret space program for like well over 40 years and knew a great deal.
	And so when Bob Dean was, we were about to go to lunch and there was like 1500 people in that audience.
	And I went over to Arthur and said, you know, this is your chance.
	And Bob Dean had been talking about Mars for an hour and a half.
	And so I said, why don't you come on stage with Bob at the end and announce that because he's been on Mars.
	He went through a jump room to Mars.
	That was part of his testimony to us.
	So he was a very impressive person.
	He was one of our earliest interviews.
	And initially wouldn't even go on camera, would only do it, you know, without the camera.
	And even had this first meeting, we had this thing, he put this electronic thing on the table.
	To keep everyone, including the Secret Space Program people, from hearing us and told us a tremendous amount, which is all still documented on my website.
	It's in writing, a lot of the early testimony from him.
	Eventually, he came and did a conference with me and went on stage with me.
	But when we went on stage in Barcelona at that time, they had actually flown him down there.
	Because he had just come out for the first time on a conference in Switzerland that Bill Ryan had.
	We had already split up, basically, Bill Ryan and me.
	But Bill Ryan had given a small conference up there and Henry Deacon went on stage there to support Bob.
	What's his name?
	Anyway, this other person.
	And so they flew him down to Barcelona, but they wouldn't let him speak.
	And so I encouraged him to come on stage.
	So we went on stage and he did.
	He announced to 1500 people that he'd been going, you know, that he could go to lunch on Mars through a jump room and that he'd been working there.
	And, of course, it never hit the news, and the people who ran the conference made us leave the stage.
	They forced us off the stage, even though he wanted to talk some more, and tried to shut him up.
	And so did Stephen Greer, by the way, strangely, playing some kind of very weird, sinister role, which I don't even know the whole nature of.
	I just know that Arthur Neumann, and I don't even know if he's still alive now.
	So I'm not, you know, there's rumors that he might not be alive.
	But there was some intimidation that happened between Stephen Greer and our witness.
	Anyway, and so that's what happened in Barcelona.
	We got a threatening letter right after we left from Dan Bierish and Marcia McDowell, telling us that MJ-12 was now turning against us, and that we better watch our backs.
	Wow!
	So that was kind of interesting.
	What can I tell you?
	The thing we did that was very different back then was I had a consumer grade camcorder.
	We didn't have a lot of money.
	I had a small inheritance, as I said, from my mother.
	We took that and I flew to Europe.
	Bill Ryan, who was my partner in the early days, only for about two, two and a half years max, because we ended up having quite a contentious relationship after that and split up.
	Right.
	Which I don't even mind talking about.
	I can explain.
	But anyway, so what happened was we went around in his station wagon.
	He crossed the channel and we would go all over Europe and interview people, you know, face to face with a camera.
	And that was very unusual at the time.
	And then I was a YouTube director, creator.
	And so I was able to get two hour interviews online When most people could only do 10-minute segments, because I had had credentials from Hollywood that I showed to YouTube, and they let me in as a creator, you know, director.
	So, it was an amazing, magical time, and we basically, what's happening now with everyone interviewing everyone else, I was just thinking about this before the interview, Now it's commonplace.
	Everyone does it.
	But we really started that train.
	You were the great pioneer.
	I mean, you're it, seriously.
	You started this whole thing.
	Well, yes.
	I mean, others were starting to do this.
	I mean, you have to see that everyone works on the backs of everything else.
	But back in those days, I wanted to film in what's called the MTV Guerrilla filmmaking style.
	That was the style.
	And because I'd been at film school in college, I had that auteur director idea that, you know, I didn't need anyone else.
	I would just do it myself and, you know, all that kind of thing.
	So there was a precedence for what I was doing, but it wasn't common at all back then.
	And YouTube was only starting.
	Google, YouTube was only starting.
	If I hadn't come across you, I mean, I was just out of the Mars recruitment 2006.
	And I'm like, I got to make this public.
	What do I do?
	And I had met maybe Alfred and Andy and Michael.
	But you were the platform.
	And it was like, oh, my gosh.
	All right.
	Like, this is impossible.
	People are talking about this.
	And so, yeah, I remember because I would say in a lot of talks, When I didn't know what to do, this was before Project Camelot, and then when I saw that, it was like, wow, I started to really connect the dots.
	And we were very fortunate in the early days that what they had done, the Secret Space Program, had people that had worked for them, primarily men, who had worked for them for 40 years or most of their life.
	And at a certain point, As they got older and older, they started to realize that humanity had a right to know, and they started to feel guilty that they were in this world of secrecy that is arguably 10,000 years in advance of where we are right now, even.
	And so they wanted to come forward, and we had this platform where we encouraged whistleblowers.
	We even started the word whistleblower in a sense that wasn't Associated with a business, right?
	It was whistleblower from truth.
	And most people, when we said, well, we interview whistleblowers from Above Top Secret, didn't even know what we were talking about.
	They didn't even know what it meant.
	We had to just, you know, tell them, translate.
	And by the way, back in the day, apparently, Julian Assange wrote to us.
	He did?
	Yeah, and he liked our work.
	So this was before WikiLeaks weeks, by the way.
	Well, of course he's gonna like your work.
	I mean, I'm sure he was inspired by you, too.
	Maybe, yeah.
	He must have been.
	Wow, so we have so many questions, too, by the way.
	I mean, You do a lot of sacred site tours, right?
	Do you want to tell us a little bit about your experiences doing that?
	Well, generally I do tours with Maria Wheatley, and she is an expert dowser.
	Her father was the dowser for the queen.
	She's a druid, and so she comes from kind of like a completely different walk of life than me.
	She's English.
	And so the two of us teamed up, and I think we're a really good combination, and we ended up Leading tours to Egypt, but prior to that I had taken lots of tours in Egypt and had connected with some of the guides and everything.
	So I got so I really knew a lot about and I would get downloads at the sites and various things.
	So then I decided I would start doing that.
	So I asked her to join me.
	So that's how that happened.
	So, in fact, we were supposed to go this fall, but because of the war in the Middle East, nobody wants to take a chance, I guess, to go to Egypt, because it could be involved at some point.
	Um, what can I say about it?
	We also have toured Stone Circles in England and had black helicopters, you know, following us.
	And I mean, it's just a simple thing.
	Nothing fancy.
	Everyone does tours of Stone circles in England.
	But she's very good.
	She's very knowledgeable.
	And I have my own approach.
	So I bring, you know, I bring this history of whistleblower testimony to do with that.
	And also, some of it has to do with ancient sites and, you know, old, you know, going back to Atlantis, and I have downloads of information about Atlantis.
	And so I don't, Like, one of my interviews, I always remember with Aaron McCallum, you might have heard of him.
	He was basically a super soldier.
	And he was, I met him, he contacted us.
	And I actually met him in, I think it's okay to say because he's long gone from there, Pasadena, in person.
	And he was a nervous wreck.
	The event that you put on that he was a speaker, I was a speaker as well, I'm pretty sure.
	He had the dolphin sort of... Yes, so what happened though was that when I met him, so Camelot, there's something about Camelot, now it's written in my book, it goes back to King Arthur's Camelot and a lot of people are going to think it's complete BS, so I totally understand and it doesn't matter.
	Bill Ryan himself didn't like it.
	Okay.
	But I wrote it into the book so people knew where I was coming from.
	So what happened when we first created Camelot, the way it happened was, I had met Bill Ryan, I decided to interview him.
	He was he was leading this sort of the speaker of Serpo.org, this sort of this program that the Defense DIA had put together to go send So it was an alien-human exchange program that is depicted at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind with Richard Dreyfuss.
	And that is based on a real thing that happened.
	And from what we understand, there were several of these kinds of things going on.
	There was one for Project Serpo and Bill Ryan was an educational coach and he also grew up in Africa and he was like sort of an Indiana Jones type and he used to lead his executives into caves and do this spelunking thing and whatnot.
	Anyway, But he was also a writer and he started a website for Serpo.org.
	So he became the only spokesperson you could talk to about that release of information from the DIA called Serpo.
	So I invited him.
	This is the very beginning when we didn't even have, it wasn't really Camelot, but I started it.
	I'd already started interviewing people.
	And I invited him for an interview, and I went to meet him, and he'd just done interviews with people with lights and cameras and teams of interviewers and all this, and I just walked up with my consumer-grade camcorder.
	I said, okay, I'm ready for the interview, and he just looked at me like, where's your team?
	Where's your whatever?
	And I said, this is it!
	This is me!
	And I interviewed him and it was a big hit.
	And we hit it off and we went to dinner and sort of said, okay, let's meet up again.
	So we met up when I went to Egypt with Jordan Maxwell and William Henry on that tour with my mother's, my inheritance.
	I then went to England to meet Bill and he agreed to show me all the stone, you know, circles and Stonehenge and all of that in Egypt.
	I mean in England and we went to one of the former homes of King Arthur and I started to have past life recall there of the time of Arthur and what had happened in Bill's life prior to me even knowing him was that some people had come along some fairly psychic people and told him that he was King Arthur I know that sounds insane, but that's what they told him.
	I mean, but if you kind of look at him, you might even think that might be true.
	But anyway, he didn't like it.
	He wasn't interested in it.
	So we never talked about it or anything, but I found out about it.
	And I also saw him in that role.
	In these recalls that when I was in Tintagel, which is a very spectacular, amazing place in England, it's on the cliffs.
	It's on cliffs, beautiful view over the ocean.
	You know, it's a very interesting place and has very incredible energy.
	So, I started tripping in my head back to the time of Arthur when I was one of your I know it sounds insane.
	No, I'm not a lot of titles of Arthur like there wasn't just one so there was more than one out Arthur that's right and but anyway so I'm just trying to explain that why I'm trying to explain why There's something about Camelot that came with Camelot, okay?
	That we used to talk about all the time, that we just called it the magic, okay?
	That it was magical, that we got interviews with amazing whistleblowers, people that we weren't supposed to.
	We even had colleagues try to get us Dropped out of conferences where they invited us to speak.
	We have, you know, I'm not going to name them, but they tried to get us, you know, completely removed from the roster.
	They didn't want us there, but we somehow wouldn't be saved and certain people would come to us that weren't supposed to be, because we were newbies at the time, total newbies.
	And it didn't matter.
	We just had this incredible rapport, and we would get these amazing whistleblowers, I'm just saying.
	So we began to call it the Magic of Camelot.
	So this comes back to Aaron McCallum.
	So what happened was that when I went to meet with Aaron, he was a nervous wreck, and I told him about Camelot and how I wanted to interview him, and I calmed him down, just verbally, And then he eventually came on my show and I got a download that he really was a dolphin-human hybrid.
	So I encouraged him about that and made him feel more comfortable.
	And he started having incredible, you know, his own memories of everything that happened to him in the secret space program.
	He went on to become a speaker, hit the circuit in a big way.
	And so, and this was, so what happens is every time I would interview somebody, they would become famous.
	And I even interviewed David Wilcock.
	He was so fed up.
	He was leaving the scene.
	He was deciding to become a recluse.
	And you can even ask him.
	And after our interview, he completely reversed himself and started to become who he is today, right?
	Wow.
	And so there was something.
	It's not us.
	I'm just trying to say.
	And what I think it is, is that we were Project Camelot.
	We were Camelot back in the day, okay?
	One of the Camelots.
	And there's even a statue of Guinevere that people say looks just like me that this psychic woman has made.
	And you can find it, it's on the internet.
	So what happens is that We carried that with us and in Ashiana Dean's book she talks about Camelot and basically what the job was was to recover the seal and all of this.
	And it actually goes to Akhnaten, whose real job was to go down to the Halls of Amenti, as it's called, and recover these seals and so on.
	Anyway, that was part of our destiny.
	We never completed.
	So then fast forward to now, zillions of years later, a lot of the people I interviewed seemed to be like, Members of the Roundtable, in essence.
	And that was the theme of Camelot.
	The reason we used that name and wanted that name, not only was I had, as a child, been enthralled with Camelot and books on Camelot, But this idea of the Roundtable was an idea of non-hierarchical societies in which everyone was equal all around the Roundtable, that theme.
	Which, by the way, the Roundtable was supplied by Guinevere's father.
	That's where I'm from.
	Yeah, really?
	Which is an interesting little piece of information.
	So, you know, there's all kinds of people that are experts on Camelot and various Arthurs as well, because there's more than one in centuries.
	There's a sixth century one and there was something else, but I don't think there was Guinevere in both centuries.
	There was just one.
	But anyway, so that's how you get into all that.
	And then I went, eventually I went, we went, On that trip, Bill and I, to Glastonbury, and I had more downloads and more Camelot, and I was in the Abbey, you know, the Abbey, which is partly burned down, and I was having incredible best life recall there.
	So anyway, that was kind of happened at the same time, making me think.
	That there was something about us reconstituting the Roundtable from our prior mission that came into the creation of Project Camelot and part of the reason why we were, and even still are, I mean, Camelot has its own, you know, sort of aura around it.
	It really does.
	I mean, it's so interesting that you've taken the Roundtable and Guinevere's father created the round table and then I'm thinking about your relationship with your father and how he's influenced you.
	So it's kind of, it kind of comes full circle, may I say?
	Yeah, I haven't thought about it.
	Yeah, but okay.
	Well, that's, I mean, the integration of the masculine and feminine and the divine blueprint and sacred union, alchemical marriage, hierogamic union, and the Michael Mary lines that go through, you know, Avery Henge, Cornwall up into Glastonbury, is the most important part of the world to be healed.
	So it's just amazing to have those experiences and those downloads that you've had.
	And the essence of Yeah, what you carry and how that disarms people that talk about truth.
	I mean, that is to me like the truth frequency, which is really what my book goes into.
	That's so wild.
	That's really cool.
	So what about, you talked about some downloads that you had about Atlantis.
	Can you tell us about that?
	Well, yes.
	I mean, you know, when I went to, I've always understood Atlantis.
	I've always resonated with it, you know, even way back in the day when, I mean, this is many years ago when people would say, oh, Atlantis is just a figment of your imagination, you know, all that kind of stuff.
	I think more now people realize that Atlantis was a real place, you know, thing.
	And in fact, I went to Malta And had more sort of downloads about that, as Malta had played a role in Atlantis.
	Because Atlantis was actually almost the whole Earth at the time.
	It was lands.
	It wasn't just one land.
	It had a primary big island initially, but it also had all these surrounding lands.
	One of the roles of Malta at the time was a place where they, I think, hid Atlantean scrolls and things that they knew the island was going to be destroyed.
	So the ones that were psychic brought these relics to hide in Malta.
	And I think that the What do they call them?
	The Maltese Illuminati, those guys.
	They have a fortress there.
	Are you talking about the Maltese Templars?
	Yeah, the Templars.
	I'm just saying that I've got to download that they're there.
	Their hidden relics are in Malta.
	They're there now?
	Yeah.
	And the Vatican, you know, because underground the Vatican has tons of relics from the past as well, Library of Alexander, etc.
	If you ever, I spent, I actually was on Maltese TV, can you believe that?
	I mean, I don't even know how that happened, but I was, and I had a lot of help to be, you know, to go and explore and take tours to Malta.
	Anyway, One of the things, it just came to me that I got this information, and when you look into Malta, you'll find out that it's completely controlled by the Vatican.
	Like, ridiculously, okay?
	So, it all kind of fits together.
	Now, of course, no one ever said there were scrolls or hidden things in Malta, but there are, I believe, from Atlantis.
	You know, Atlantis is a mystery.
	You know, they don't know A lot about Atlantis.
	And that's also, by the way, from the shifting of the poles, apparently a lot of Atlantis has shifted down to Antarctica.
	And Atlantis is said to be the last place that ETs and humans walked together on Earth, on surface Earth.
	Right.
	So we're entering a time when that's going to happen again.
	And we're, you know, we're right on the verge of being right where Atlantis was before it was sunk.
	Just saying.
	That's so interesting because I believe you.
	Is that?
	Okay, two things.
	First of all, like the couplings of the Vatican, okay, it looks like this, right?
	And it's like the Maltese kind of Yeah, I can't really see that.
	It's really faded, but okay.
	Oh yeah, the Maltese Cross, of course.
	Right, and it's like that's in the Vatican, okay?
	Like the Pope wears like those kind of... Oh, really?
	Yeah, so there's that.
	And then, okay, then you think about Antarctica and how it's totally hidden from us, right?
	Of course, then that makes sense that Atlantis, the remnants of Atlantis, Would be in Antarctica.
	I'm not saying that Malta is the only place.
	I mean, you can imagine that, just like now, there's psychics who see the future, right?
	And actually work at it, you know, groups and groups and witches and warlocks, the whole thing.
	So, what happens is, before this tragedy, and there was actually two tragedies of Atlantis.
	It wasn't hit just once, it was hit twice.
	One, I think, was an internal combustion Having to do with, from what I understand, something about the crystal pylons in underground in Atlantis.
	And there was dark magicians and it's when the whole dark sort of echelon came and infiltrated Earth, also via the off-world cultures.
	And so the beginning of these battles that we're now fighting, right, with these types.
	Yeah, and then there was a meteor, I firmly believe, that did hit and demolish a good part of Atlantis, too.
	So that was a scientific one?
	It went to Egypt, and I just relate to it very well, and very much, and it also has to do with My sense of Nefertiti and Akhenaten and the whole thing.
	And so I have, when I'm in Egypt, I've actually been told Egyptians think I'm Egyptian, Russians think I'm Russian.
	So I have this weird thing about the way I look or something that these people think I am from there.
	That's a gift, honestly.
	Well, everyone has things that you know, I mean, I recognize Laura, I told her already, you know, from past lives, you know, and she has a lot of I'm not going to say, because it's probably better not to.
	But anyway, it's in your hands, of course, to talk about that kind of thing.
	But she has a whole history going back into these lineages as well.
	All of us are part of history, right?
	We all have past lives, and you can explore your past lives.
	One thing that I found in, you know, connecting all my chakras is I became more aware of psychic things and more intuitive and things.
	Um, what happens is you, you start to get downloads, but especially what I found is if I go to a place, I start to get information coming at me.
	And especially, I guess, if I've lived there before, you know, so I get downloads in, in various places.
	Um, when I, when I travel, which makes traveling really fun and very interesting.
	That's probably why people recognize you too.
	Cause the aura signature from that.
	Maybe.
	So, they weren't bad past lives, I hope.
	That's why you're not saying them.
	They weren't bad, I hope.
	What?
	Are you talking about you?
	Well, you don't have to talk about me.
	I just, when you said you didn't want to say it, I was hoping... Well, I just think that, you know, when you go back to some of the, well, at least in England, you go back to some of the royal, the lines of, you know, you know, nobody likes the royals, but, you know, you go back to those lineages.
	Not just Eisenhower.
	I know you're with Eisenhower in this life but I'm just telling you that you go back to that.
	I mean I can read stuff off people.
	My family would have been a rebel and going against anything corrupt.
	I'll give you an example of something in England because I think I have several past lives there.
	I get downloads there all the time.
	Crazy stuff.
	Like one time I was with my Ex-boyfriend.
	And we were walking around this castle that we decided to go visit, but the castle is pretty much burned down and you can't see almost anything.
	But we went there and I was walking around and I go, oh and right here is where the kitchen was.
	And we walked around the corner and there's this little sign stuck in the earth, nothing else, and it just says kitchen.
	And I had the same thing happen at Versailles, where I just walked around the corner and I knew I was going to be in the church or whatever, and that's where it was in history.
	And so I've had these things where I get validation, I guess you'd say, of what I'm getting.
	Mm-hmm.
	And so now I think I lost my train of thought.
	Oh, I definitely had Avalon pass by.
	I think we talked about that when I saw you.
	But yeah, anyway, so yeah, and you get a lot of precog when it comes to worldly events, too.
	Do you want to tell us about that?
	Well, now my work actually has progressed to that place where, you know, I've always gotten these downloads, but I certainly didn't Tell people about them, mostly, unless you were just like with me at the time.
	And so I, yeah, more and more I have gotten downloads.
	I have had, even when I was in New York, I started getting dreams of the future, you know, lots of dreams of the future.
	And I've seen the future quite substantially.
	I don't, you know, I don't know that it's great to say it or people might not want to hear it.
	I have already said some things.
	I can say a few things if you like.
	I can tell you one that already came true, which is I, you know, I did go and I was interviewed by Sean Stone when he was working for Gaia TV.
	And so I flew to Colorado and I was there and then I For some reason my plane wasn't going to leave until the next morning.
	I think it might have been delayed, I can't remember what.
	But I ended up having to sleep overnight at the airport in Denver.
	And you know how notorious that place is, right?
	So there are a lot of hotels right on the plateau, right surrounding the airport.
	of Denver.
	And so I went to sleep that night and I had the most horrific dream that was so real that I broke when I woke up, I felt completely sick.
	And I'm sick to my stomach.
	I'm not going to be gross here.
	But I was totally I just like, woke up super sick.
	I was I saw that the Chinese were invading America, that they were coming in through the north and the south.
	And that they, I got a very clear message, they let them in and Chinese troops were invading.
	And that's exactly what is happening.
	And I saw it in this dream and at the time, When I, even though I was sick, I thought, this is absurd.
	This has never happened.
	Chinese troops would never come into America.
	That's crazy.
	Why am I dreaming this?
	You know, that kind of thing.
	How long ago, though, was that?
	That was years and years ago.
	That was like, wow.
	Like I said, I was being interviewed by Gaia TV.
	They wanted to possibly purchase some of my interviews, but I never would do business with them.
	So um yeah so that was one example of future that I did dream that has already come true although I think the exact dream that I had might actually it might happen in the future even more and I've had dreams like I get them in sequences and I can see like In other words, I don't know when they're going to happen, but I know that this is going to happen before that, that kind of thing.
	And so, um, I have other things like in, uh, well, I can tell you that in 2020, okay.
	In, um, let's see, what was it?
	Okay.
	So it was, you know, how we have the election is really the end of the year, right?
	So in November of 2020, well, in April of 2020, I had a very psychic dream, and in it, it was, I saw caravans leaving, leaving California, and with all their belongings, and going back across the border.
	And at the time, when I thought I saw that, it was April, as I say, of 2020, I thought it meant, it was talking about Trump winning, which he did, let's see, But then he didn't win.
	Okay, right.
	So then he didn't win.
	And so I thought, oh, my dream was wrong.
	But then I realized that it was for four years later.
	And now what does Trump talk about when he gets in office?
	He's going to have the biggest exodus of illegal aliens out of our country.
	It was exactly like my dream.
	So your caravans, that's what you, that's what you dreamt.
	Yeah.
	So I mean, it hasn't actually happened yet.
	But if you believe Trump is going to win, which I do, then what he says is that's what's going to happen.
	And that was my dream.
	Okay, because I wanted, that was something that I wanted to ask you about, because in your book, right, you talk about 2016, and how the White Hats basically knew what was going on.
	And I think it was What should we call it?
	Basically, that they got the good timeline, and Hillary thought that she was going to win, but the White Hats flipped it, and looking glass, and that's why she was so stunned, basically, because she was sure that she was going to win, but the White Hats took control.
	Well, she, yes, she represented the dark, the negative timeline for sure.
	And so, you know, so we didn't, we were supposed to go to World War right when she went back, went in office, but she never, she didn't win.
	It was a complete switch up.
	Thank God.
	Right.
	So then you think in 2024 that we're going to stay on the good timeline?
	In theory.
	Now, I mean, there are so many extenuating circumstances right now that, you know, look, I'm not saying my dreams are, you know, airtight perfect.
	I don't know, you know.
	But according to that particular dream, Trump will win.
	I've had other dreams.
	I've been to a party celebrating him winning.
	Okay.
	So, and I know who's going to be at the party even, you know, these kind of things.
	I mean, I can't say, you know, until they happen, I can't say they're going to happen, you know, for sure.
	I, that's why I don't go talking all about them.
	I've also, you know, seen other things like, you know, that's why I'm cautionary towards people because I want them to understand that it isn't, The beginning of a golden age and all this kind of stuff that actually, you know, we're still fighting this war, even after Trump is in office.
	And there's some very serious stuff that's still going on.
	So.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just wonder what will happen to the country.
	For starters.
	Well, I can tell you, but I don't think I should.
	Is it any, you want to tell us a little bit?
	Well, because what if I'm wrong?
	It's not good to put out negative stuff.
	On the one hand, there can be positive stuff, but on the other hand, there can be other things go on that you're not so positive.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I have these dreams all the time in my head.
	I have, I know them.
	So, you know, if they come true, I can tell people but, you know, and I once in a while, I've told a few people, the dreams, you know, things like that.
	But it's sort of, you know, We're creating the future at the same time, but see if you're really a precog.
	By the way, Cliff High is gathering his data from us humans.
	We are precogs.
	I would say the reason we're still alive and we're still a viable species is because we are precogs.
	We just don't know where we are.
	What do you mean by that, exactly?
	What it means is that, you know, those among us who, maybe it's mainly people in certain roles, but we see the future, we prepare for it, we understand, we are born into this time and we know We have an inner knowledge, and the two of you are probably just like that, you know what I mean?
	You have an inner knowledge, you always... I don't know, but in my case, I mean, I've had precog dreams ever since I can remember, basically, but they started in earnest.
	In the time when I was actually in my early 20s and in New York City and so on, when I really started to get future dreams and all that.
	And that's continued, you know, and it's not always, you know, things can happen that I didn't know were going to happen.
	But a lot of times I have been right about things.
	So, you know, so I pay attention.
	If I get a dream, I pay attention.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Even going to Mars, it was, that was pivotal.
	There's some dreams that you just can't ignore.
	And, uh, and, and I just feel with that ability that you have, it's really helped with the timing of when you put stuff out.
	Right.
	It's like, you know, um, it's just amazing to follow your channel and all the amazing guests that you have.
	Do you ever like to talk about some of the JFK Jr.
	stuff or is that going?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	No, I'm happy.
	I know we could keep asking questions.
	There's actually nothing I won't talk about, you know.
	The only thing I don't like about, you know, saying the future so much is like people get sometimes misled or get the wrong idea or something like that about that.
	Right, right.
	Yeah.
	So I think freedom, you know, there's got to be a lot of freedom out there.
	But as we get closer to events, I would definitely tell people, you know, certainly, especially if I saw something negative, you know?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I can tell you all, we're going to be fighting ET races after Trump is elected.
	You know, that we are going to be, yeah, going to battle with ETs and that's real.
	Okay, so I actually, you know, I had a remarkable dream that I, I mean, some of these dreams are so remarkable and so amazing that I can't ignore them.
	You know what I mean?
	So those are different kinds of dreams, but they are really powerful.
	So yes, about JFK Jr., I can really talk all day about him.
	What would you like to know?
	I know we've got to close soon, but yeah, that would just be maybe my final question.
	I'm sure you do have one as well, Marisa.
	Maybe we could do a part two.
	Can we do a part two?
	Sure.
	Okay, yeah, just I know you.
	I mean, you know, I'd love to have both of you on my show as well.
	Okay, maybe separately so that I could get to know each of you separately.
	I mean, I know Laura, I've known Laura for many years, but I never get to have you on my show.
	Laura, I'd love to have you on my show.
	Wonderful.
	Yeah, so I know you've talked about JFK.
	And I think some don't know how to process that.
	And you've gotten some interesting feedback.
	Anything you just want to share for clarity?
	Well, I have several pages devoted to this on my website.
	So you can definitely go look at those pages.
	I've got photographs, I've got little stories.
	People have sent me stories that have substantiated what was already my understanding that 107, just so people who don't know what I'm talking about, 107 is JFK Jr.
	That there are two 107s.
	And some people think there might even be three, but there's definitely two.
	And I've met both of them, talked to both of them eye to eye, face to face.
	Both of them at the same time or separately?
	Separately, because they don't appear in the same place at the same time together, obviously, because they're both in disguise and they wear the same disguise.
	And so that's where, you know, it's a certain kind of disguise.
	And I mean, I don't know if I can bring it up quickly, but I could show you.
	It's so much easier just to show the pictures than to try to tell you about it, but it's on my website.
	So if you go to my website and you just type in like JFK is the easiest way.
	And then you'll see several interviews and things that have come up.
	So at the Double Down, so there was a, okay, so can I share my screen?
	Is that all right?
	Hey, Laura, can Carrie share her screen?
	You have to give me permission, I think.
	Laura, can Carrie share her screen?
	Because otherwise I can't show you what I'm trying to show you.
	Yes, she made you the co-host now.
	Okay.
	I've seen all this stuff, by the way.
	It's amazing.
	I'm like, Oh, well, if you have, yeah.
	So nobody, I mean, the viewers, I mean, this is for the audience.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The purpose is for the audience.
	So let's see if I can get it here.
	Now I'm trying to bring out the right one, because this is kind of Okay yeah okay so so this is one of the pages so this is supposed to be 107 and he went to the Patriot Double Down and what he did was this was like A few years ago, and he he got out of a very beautiful red car, which I don't know what the fucking brand is Maserati or whatever you call these things.
	But and he spoke on the stage, and he had pared down his actual disguise, and I'm going to show you the real disguise.
	And so take a look at that face and tell me that you don't think there's a resemblance.
	Okay, let's give it a resemblance.
	And all of these are him.
	This is him on the stage, okay?
	So then this is his disguise.
	Now look at, if you don't know this is a disguise, then you are so dumb that we can't even talk.
	So here you have a huge fat stomach, right?
	Two pairs of pants.
	He's wearing a ridiculous beard.
	He wears, in this case, he actually took the hat off, but most of the time the hat covers the rest of his face.
	You know this, you know the mask like Tom, Tom Cruise wears and Mission Impossible and Eddie Murphy and all the you know, everyone wears these masks nowadays, right?
	They're lifelike, totally lifelike.
	So he wears a mask.
	And he goes, this is how he goes in public every fucking time, which is just drives me crazy.
	Because here you have this gorgeous man and he dresses like a clown.
	He looks like Santa Claus, and people think he really looks like this, which cracks me up, actually.
	But anyway, so this is probably close to what he might look like now, all right?
	Right.
	And I, you know, he's on videos, and I've got the video of him talking on stage, and this is my interview with him.
	Anyway, I've got a lot of information all about him, and lots of good photographs, and Let's, I'm just going to go down here and here he is on stage again, you know, in this ridiculous disguise.
	And here's the interview with Nino, which is great.
	I've watched it like five times.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, that's fun.
	And there's some secret pictures that you have to look really close to see.
	This is the other one.
	This is Wayne Willett.
	Okay.
	See, he doesn't look anything like John.
	Okay.
	He wears the same disguise, okay?
	They wear this disguise.
	This is John.
	He's actually a military guy.
	He has a rank above the rank of general in the White Hats.
	He is actually our acting VP with Trump, who is our acting president of the Republic, okay?
	People don't know this stuff, but you know, He, you know, this is him.
	He was photographed in this with all these military guys.
	He's, you know, there's so much to it and, you know, I just think it's so fucking obvious and What happened was, in the early days, he, this is four years ago, after I interviewed him, actually during the interview, he invited me to come to this cocktail party and this weekend screening of this, it's called the Sounds of Silence?
	No.
	Sounds of Freedom?
	Sounds of Freedom.
	And so it was a weekend of screenings and we all, a lot of all the journalists, alternative journalists, were invited.
	Laura, were you there?
	I can't remember.
	Yes, I was.
	Yeah, we went out to dinner.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So you know what I'm talking about.
	So when we were there, we met this supposed person, 107.
	He was dressed in this ridiculous outfit.
	So I am there and as it happens, I have a friend and I didn't know they were doing this, but they took a picture of me and I'm sitting on the couch and he's standing like just a few feet away in his ridiculous outfit.
	And they took a picture of me and I'm like this because I couldn't figure out there was something wrong with him.
	I met him and I had interviewed him and I knew psychically he was John F. Kennedy Jr.
	And I'd already interviewed somebody who wrote a book about the supposed assassination of John F. Kennedy Jr.
	John Conor, who they tried to kill because he wrote his book and was very accurate in what supposedly happened.
	But there, you know, it was, it's so obvious, he was brought up by the Secret Service, if you don't think the White Hats were guarding him.
	And the White Hats come from, you know, from even before John F. Kennedy.
	The death and assassination, or supposed death and assassination, of John F. Kennedy.
	And more and more, you know, Robert Morningstar, I think, is responsible for the fact that they substituted Tippett's body for John F. Kennedy, that Kennedy survived, that he's either, it was a double, or that he just survived, and that he lived to be over 80.
	He only died a couple years ago.
	On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On On I mean, he's intelligent.
	You know, he's basically, you can hear an interview with him every fucking day of the year.
	He's always doing interviews.
	But you never see him except his feet.
	But there have been a few times when he's sort of, I guess, revealed himself slightly.
	And he, what happened after the cocktail party weekend is I sort of, I don't know if we, I befriended him or he befriended me or whatever.
	He started, you know, I texted him on his phone.
	And so I would, you know, talk to him every once in a while, text him or whatever.
	And one, okay, so then in April of that year, it was around the same time when I had that very psychic dream of the future with Trump.
	I had two nights, I think it was at least two nights, that were the whole nights all about John F. Kennedy Jr.
	explaining him in the dream, explaining to me how he did the disguise, how he was 107, blah blah blah, explaining everything.
	And then at the same time, I also dreamed the future about him and Trump and so on.
	So, it went on.
	These were two dreams the whole night long.
	They were the most unusual night of dreams I ever had in my life.
	It was like I was in an alternate reality.
	Even to this day, I think, well, maybe they were just trying to deceive me.
	It was some E.T.
	weird thing.
	I don't know.
	It was wonderful.
	It was very Fascinating, you know, it was I had it was very good, like a great feeling about it.
	It was wonderful.
	So I woke up on a Saturday morning after the first night of dreams, and I was blown away.
	And I just thought, fuck it, I'm going to just tell him I just dreamed about him and all about who he really is and everything.
	So I texted him at like nine o'clock on Saturday morning.
	And I basically said, which I'm not an early person normally, but that was early for me.
	So I said, I just had the most incredible night of dreams about you and he wrote me back immediately like he was right there on his phone which he does work all hours so anything's possible there but so and he said oh really that now you've got my attention and so then I proceeded to tell him bits and pieces but then he told me that two other women
	During the same week had had written the same thing to him that they had had dreams about him and who he really was or whatever, but theirs were nothing like mine.
	He sent one of the dreams to me.
	He sent one of the dreams?
	Yeah, and it was an interesting dream, but it was revealing that he is somehow 107.
	In that person's dream, I don't know if I should say it or not, but as long as I don't say their name, it doesn't matter, I guess.
	So they had dreamt that there was 107.
	They'd won or whatever.
	In the car with JFK jr in a car with 107 and they were driving in this convertible in Long Beach area of all places I think and they and that person said every time they asked a question John would turn to 107 and then they would answer together or something like that.
	Anyway, it was some kind of dream like that.
	Mine was completely different.
	As I said, I was shown the disguise, how he did it, blah, blah, blah.
	After that, I had lots of other dreams as well about him.
	I mean, really tons of dreams.
	And some of Trump.
	I've had a wonderful few dreams of Trump as well.
	So I can't explain it.
	Maybe it's all just bullshit.
	Maybe I'm just being deceived, as I say.
	But I do wait to see if they're going to happen.
	I gotta ask you though, I have to ask you this.
	So the dreams that you had, okay, 107, as JFK Jr.
	When you did tell him this, did he deny it?
	Or did he agree?
	Oh, well, I kind of forgot that part.
	Yeah, so I did say to him, you know, I know you're JFK Jr.
	I mean, it was in my dream, blah, blah.
	And, you know, he didn't deny it, but that's one thing that he didn't used to do.
	Now he denies it, but he didn't used to when people said that to him.
	What happens is, though, that he, in the course of me talking to him then, because I started sort of a rapport with him on the phone, and then I went and saw him in person.
	So that was in April.
	And then in fall of that same year, he did the Double Down, which I just showed you the pictures from, right?
	Yeah.
	And I was there and he was texting me and telling me that he was going on stage and we had a huge argument On the phone.
	See, one thing he likes to do is, he really is the VP, so he has a right to do this, but he tries to control He's probably gonna hate me saying this.
	He tries to control the message of the White Hats, right?
	He's actually pretty much their only real speaker.
	And consequently, when he invited all the alternative journalists to that cocktail party, he was doing it with intention, right?
	That he would get to know everyone and so he would know who we were and he could influence us if necessary.
	So I had written an article During the Patriot Double Down, I was investigating the situation at the border and something that was going on with these illegal aliens and actually these troops down there.
	And so I published an article and he called me up to tell me that he didn't want me to print that article.
	And I argued with him about it.
	And then we got on other subjects.
	And I happened to be at the Patriot Double Down when he called me.
	He wasn't there yet.
	He came later in the evening.
	And I went into this area behind the Patriot Double Down where I could speak freely.
	And it was empty.
	It was the kitchen that normally operated, but there was nobody there.
	So I started walking around this big room, and I was talking to him on the phone at the same time.
	So he was saying certain things, and there was a picture on the internet that he didn't want out there.
	And he was telling me to... First of all, I had put it out there as well.
	Somebody had... I didn't take it or anything.
	Because, okay, when he did the meeting, maybe, Laura, you remember, but at the cocktail party, he said, no cameras, no one can take pictures.
	Well, I have a friend.
	She became my friend.
	I didn't really know her then.
	She took pictures.
	She didn't even do what he said.
	And I heard later that other people did as well, but they didn't put them on the internet.
	She, however, put hers on the internet.
	So I got a copy of that one and I put it out there and he called me also to tell me to take that off my website.
	He didn't want it out there.
	And what's interesting about that particular picture, well, I guess I won't say that, but anyway, and so the thing is that he, you know, he was trying to tell me to take it off.
	So I agreed, I said, no problem, I'll take it off and I did.
	But the thing is that I have always wanted him to tell the truth about who he is because I did a whole psych evaluation of him on a very psychic level and I saw You know, he drove around in these incredible cars, no matter what.
	He goes down to the Trump, you know, down to Mar-a-Lago.
	He hangs out with Trump.
	He, you know, if you think this person who's, he's like best friends with Roseanne, you know, this is John, okay?
	I mean, for fuck's sake.
	And so, you know, it's obvious.
	And so I would call him John.
	I just said, you know, so I started to yell at him.
	You know, about that, because I, you know, I'm sort of a passionate person.
	I really wanted him to come forward, but he wouldn't do it.
	At one point, he probably, you know, I think he's sick of me now, but he knows that I'm gonna say crazy shit about him.
	But anyway, so he said, at one point, he said, I'm going to do it my way.
	So in other words, he's going to say who he is his way, but he will do it then?
	Is that what that means, do you think?
	Well, it was in answer to what I was saying, so that's all I can tell you.
	All right.
	Well, that's very interesting.
	It'd be great if we actually did see Jon Jon.
	Well, let me say this.
	I have colleagues who won't come forward who know damn well I'm right, and they've told me behind the scenes.
	I'll leave it at that.
	So I'm not the only one who knows he's JFK Jr.
	Okay.
	I'm just the only one with the chutzpah to say the truth.
	Well, you do have chutzpah, let's just say that more than, yeah, pretty much the whole planet.
	You two, both of you have chutzpah.
	Let's just say that for sure.
	And, uh, Yeah, I just got to ask just another thing though, because I know that we've taken up a lot of your time, but I do have a few questions.
	Okay, Carrie, because you talk a lot about like the AI God, right?
	Who is the AI God and who controls the world at this point?
	And do, and I guess my last question is... I don't talk about an AI God.
	You did mention an AI God.
	No, no, I'm saying no, I say AI, in essence, reports to God.
	I'm saying Satan reports to God.
	I am saying God is everything.
	I'm certainly not saying God is an AI.
	No, I know.
	No, I know.
	You wouldn't say God is an AI, but whoever the AI head AI is.
	These people, I know it's a religious thing with Christians, they like to say, well, I guess the devil owns part of the world or part of the universes, and God owns the other part.
	That's not how it works.
	If it's God, if it's the Creator, the Creator is over everything, including the dark and the light, okay?
	The Creator is over all of it.
	And so people like to pretend that, oh, the Creator loves them best and, you know, looks over them and nobody else and all that kind of nonsense.
	And it's like a childlike human obsession.
	They think it's like we're playing football games in which God is rooting for one team over another.
	It's not like that.
	And humans need to grow up with their understanding about what is the Creator, what is God, what is everything, see?
	And it is yin and yang, light and dark, you know, and so on.
	That's like your sub stack, your most recent sub stack.
	You do talk about that.
	Yeah, this is the only one.
	I talk about it quite a bit.
	Okay, so then I guess my last question is, and this is your mission.
	Wait, where was it?
	My mission is for humanity to wake up and see who they really are.
	That's in your book.
	Do you think that we will?
	Are we doing that?
	Oh, we are, in spades, yeah.
	Okay, do you think that humanity is going to stay human and Sen, do you think we're going to actually become who we really are?
	Do you have hope for that?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, all things in good time.
	But yeah, and there is a transhuman agenda.
	And I, you know, it's like, I used to feature one of the Terminator, I think it's a Terminator Salvation.
	It's this Terminator movie called Salvation, where the star of it has every part of his body is a cyborg except his heart.
	And in the end, he saves humanity because his heart is still human.
	You remember that movie?
	We'll go watch it again.
	Anyway, it's called Terminator Salvation.
	And so it's kind of like that.
	I fully believe that regardless of even the humans that do become cyborgs, that they still can, you know, maintain.
	Because what we are is spirit first, okay?
	Spirit and soul first.
	Human, man of many colors, is actually the body we inhabit at this present time.
	And you can inhabit other bodies, by the way, on other planets, and therefore you might be Pleiadian, you might be, you know, a lion being, you might be this one, that one, but your soul-spirit complex will incorporate all those various lives as to who you are.
	So you are, your whole soul is, you know, very, very large and very Multidimensional.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it's so wonderful to be with you.
	And I'm so glad to see you in person at the last event because it's been so long.
	Yeah, that was really fun.
	All in like one month to have so much carry time.
	Your brilliance and your service.
	Thank you.
	Well, it's been fun.
	I probably am talking more openly than I normally do because I figure both of you know me and we already hung out together and everything, which is kind of fun in the background.
	But yeah, I hope we can do this on my show as well.
	We'd love to, yeah.
	And this has been really great because, as Laura knows, I've been dying to meet you and talk to you.
	So thank you.
	Yeah, and this has been really great.
	And I just love you and your work so very much.
	You're so special to me.
	And I know Laura.
	Well, you're both very special to me.
	And you're incredibly wonderful and creative in your own right.
	And you know, and all that.
	So yeah, I hope we can bring that out on my show.
	I'd love that.
	Thank you, Carrie.
	Thanks, everybody, for tuning in for another wonderful episode of Divine Mother Earth Time.
	And what a divine, feminine, goddess energy we have with Carrie.
	Thank you, everybody.
	Thank you so much.
	Thanks, everybody.
	OK.
	Bye-bye.

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