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July 30, 2024 - Project Camelot
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CARBON 60 WITH NO SOLVENTS - ROBERT GRESKA
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Thank you.
Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I have Robert Greska with me and we are going to be talking about his product Carbon 60.
And I had him on my show before so some people may remember him but we're gonna Come back and review things and see where things are at with his products.
And, uh, so they're great products.
I use them myself.
And, uh, so Robert, um, or Bob, welcome to the show.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, Carrie.
Great to be here.
Good to be back on.
Thank you.
Someone from wonderful Colorado.
All right, excellent.
So what I'd like you to do is give a refresher as to who you are, sort of how you got started with Carbon 60, and then we'll go from there.
Okay, I'm the developer of Clean Carbon 60, but I started out in the aerospace business working with carbon fiber, graphite epoxy, carbon-carbon leading edges, You know, carbon's been my life work, pretty much.
Studied carbon in college, because I thought it was a very interesting atom.
It could bond four ways, to four different ways, so it was very interesting to me.
And I ended up developing a process to produce clean carbon-60, which raises the benchmark for the carbon-60 world.
And then we followed up through it and went with it, made a A basically a dietary supplement with it following the FDA requirements and so forth.
Okay, that's a very succinct beginning.
I'm putting your ad here on the, it's on the front of my website if you scroll down about halfway and you'll see the link there and so on to go to and then you should be able to click on it and go to the right place.
So, and I'll also see if during the show I can put the link in the chat.
So, Basically, can you explain a little bit more about why your carbon-60 versus other types is better, perhaps, or more, I don't know, is more on this?
Yeah, let me speak a little about what carbon-60 does, and then I'll get into why ours is different.
Carbon-60 is like an antioxidant that gives up an electron to toxins in your body, so it neutralizes toxins.
And it also gives up an electron to free radicals, which cause most every health issue there is.
So a free radical, if it's in your whatever part of your body, that's what causes the problem.
And so having the bioavailability to move around, and that's what our product, why our carbon-60 is different, It's very much smaller in size.
We produce it at 20 nanometers, which is extremely small, where the other commercial products of carbon-60 are very large.
They're basically 200,000 times larger in size, and that's a significant difference of how the carbon molecule is able to move around in your body and give up electrons Because electrons are very small, you know.
I mean, if you're familiar with your high school chemistry, electrons orbit around the nucleus of an atom.
And so, it's a very small charge, but it's significant because if you have a molecule missing an electron, that cell does not function properly.
So, that's what helps with it.
And the difference in our product is that All the other commercial Carbon-60 products out there, they use a solvent extraction process, and it causes two things.
It causes a little bit of toxicity in the Carbon-60 itself, and it also causes the Carbon-60 molecules to aggregate or cluster together.
And so there's a big difference in size when you do it that way in the bioavailability plus a little bit of toxicity.
So we don't have, we have a very small size.
We don't have any toxicity.
Just to give you some idea, we're 20 nanometers.
My competitor's products are about 1,200 nanometers in size.
And if you look at the best, you know, a mortise and pestle grinder where you can grind up powder.
You can grind it down to 10,000 nanometers.
So 10,000 nanometers for the mortars and pestle, you know, 1,200 for my competitors, and we're down at 20 nanometers.
So there's a significant difference in size, and that bioavailability allows the carbon molecules to float around, go through your body, go through cell membranes, go through your blood-brain barrier, go everywhere it needs to, to find that positively charged free radical or toxin.
Okay, that makes sense.
So why did you get into this field?
Well, I was working in the aerospace business, which is basically, you know, defense related, and I got tied to making, let's call them bombs of mass destruction or things that, you know, you know, military things.
And so I wanted to do something for health and human performance.
So I quit.
And I started up, back then it was Engineering Innovations, my company, and I I worked with carbon fiber.
I made prosthetics.
I made pool sticks.
I made various things out of carbon fiber.
I modified braiding equipment to do that.
And so braiding machine, it's an intricate, very, it's like 20 sewing machines put together.
And they all got to function in harmony together.
So it braids and wraps carbon fiber around things.
So that's why I decided to get out and I did things for hospitals and made force tables and just, just, just things that help people, uh, lifting devices like an exoskeleton.
So you could put and lift up a heavy object by just loading up.
If you imagine putting like a, a bow from a bow and arrow, connecting it to your hip and connecting it to your ankle.
And he had one on both sides.
When you bend down, squat down, you load up those bows.
And when you lift up, you can lift up and make things lift easier.
So I did some of that and that was actually for the Army Research and Development in Natick Labs in Natick, Massachusetts.
So were you focused on the human body, things that worked well with the human body?
Was that sent you in that direction or not?
Well, I wanted to do something to better humanity than to destroy it.
So yeah, I worked on such things as an altitude simulation chamber, a high altitude chamber.
And matter of fact, I just sold one this weekend.
An old one that I had laying around.
And they simulate, it's a hard fiberglass shell that you get inside of this thing.
And you pull a partial vacuum.
There's a plexiglass door on it, so you have light coming in, you can see out.
And you pull a vacuum on it, a partial vacuum, which simulates a high altitude.
And when it does that, your body acclimates.
If you're inside this thing, your body acclimates to a higher altitude, gaining more red blood cells, increasing your hematocrit.
And increasing your athletic performance, your endurance ability, because when you come get out of the chamber and you're down at sea level, for instance, we simulated up to 15,000 feet.
When you come out of the chamber and you get down to sea level, you have more red blood cells.
And that's what the whole trick of the altitude chamber is to get more red blood cells.
So now you can carry more oxygen, more food, more waste products away from the cells in your body.
So your performance goes up.
And that was a high altitude chamber.
We had a website, hypobaric.com, that we put up there.
We, you know, the Army has these, but they're huge.
And, I mean, they train pilots in them.
They go up to 25,000 feet, so they can know what it's like to not have oxygen.
But we only went up to 15,000 feet.
We stayed in a safe level, and athletes perform better.
So that was one of the projects.
Okay, so it did kind of get you focused on what, you know, what oxygenates the blood and so on and so forth, breathing and all of that.
So you kind of see, you know, people can see the transition.
When you created this, did it take a long time to get the process the way you wanted it?
As far as the carbon-60?
Yes.
Initially, it took me about three weeks.
I came up with an idea of how to make carbon-60 or convert it, basically.
It's a conversion process that we do.
It's not an extraction process.
It's a conversion.
It took me about three weeks to put some together.
I made my first little bit, but I mean, it was a tiny, tiny amount.
It was only like the size of a period at the end of a sentence, so it was a speck.
But within that speck, there was probably a billion carbon-60 molecules.
And then, you know, I'd rerun the experiment, and the next time I would make the size of a head of a common pin, and then I'd do it again, and I got a BB, and then I'd get a pea size, and then a thimble full, and that's when we had enough to work with and experiment with.
And that was when we sent some off to the laboratory, and they tested it and found out, yes, it truly is carbon-60.
So that's when we started looking at it, and I researched at that time.
I mean, I was not looking at health You know, making a health supplement.
I was looking at, you know, we're using this for basically another experiment, but finding out with the research that it helped a lot of people with their health.
Carbon 60 is an antioxidant.
There was discovered in recently 1985 and Nobel Prize in 96.
So about the turn of the century, you know, people started looking at this molecule because it's a very unique structure.
It's named after Buckminster Fuller, who made the geodesic dome, you know, that was at the World's Fair.
Remember that glass dome?
Yeah.
And it was named after him because it looked similar because it's a spherical shape.
And so they're also called fullerenes or they're called buckyballs.
You know, in his honor.
But they have a... and Buckminster Fuller predicted that there would be... this shape would be a healing molecule of some sort, but he never knew that it was going to be made out of carbon.
So there's a lot of history there that went along with this.
He was a very smart, you know, advanced architect.
Yes.
Well, you know, I studied him, I guess, in school or whatever, way back when, and I know that Richard Allen Miller, a physicist that I often interview, is often talking about his work and the fullerenes and so on.
So, as far as carbon-60 goes, what is the, like, if you take it every day, what is it doing for you?
Well, the first thing it'll do is it'll detox your body, because toxins are positively charged.
They're seeking an electron.
And since it has a carbon-60 molecule being spherical in shape, it has 60 carbon atoms that's represented by these black little beads.
And these lines are the bonds that represent the bonds between the atoms.
So 60 carbon atoms, hence the name carbon-60.
And so it's spherical in shape.
So it's very structurally strong.
The sphere is a very strong member or shape.
And so it can give up an electron or two without collapsing.
And that's what makes it work.
And so it will give an electron to your free radical, your toxin.
So the first thing you go through is a detox.
And that's like one day you might notice a little queasiness or not, you know, but very rare that people notice anything.
And except that they will detox a lot of the toxins that are the low-hanging fruit that's in your body, that's in your bloodstream, and so forth like that.
So the first thing you do is go through a detox, and then you will notice an improvement of molecular function.
Your cellular function improves.
And especially if you have a lot of free radicals in a particular part of your body, whether it's your whatever, wherever they are, whether it's your hand or your wrist, your elbow, your joint, your myelin sheath, your nerve, your head, your eyeball.
You know, if you have sinus issues going on, it'll help with that because that's the common denominator is molecules missing electrons.
That causes all these health issues, no matter where they're located in your body.
If you've got molecules that don't function, that organ or gland or whatever it is doesn't function, and it goes wrong.
So the carbon 60 floats around, they're small enough, and that's the size is very important.
They're very, very tiny, so they go around your body, and they'll actually seek out the positively charged free radical, like magnets stick to each other.
They'll do the same thing, the positive of the free radical and the negative available electron of the carbon-60, they'll kind of attach to each other and stick together, and, you know, problem resolved, and it works relatively quickly.
It's amazing.
Now, is it curing diseases?
I mean, you know, Would you say, or, I mean, have studies been done on this kind of thing, or is it sort of more of a gradual overall health?
Well, you know, since we are a supplement, we can't use the word cure, and we can't mention any diseases by name, but there are peer-reviewed published studies out there.
You can Google any disease in carbon-60 And read something positive about that, whatever happened.
I mean, because there's been a lot of testing, like I said, about 2000.
The turn of the century, they started doing some studies and testing on this, and a lot of laboratories did some tests.
And basically, most of them all came out positive.
The only negative results they got was from Either the oil which they put in it, and like a lot of companies use olive oil, and it goes rancid very quickly.
They get some negative results from that.
Or the toxic solvent that was in it.
They didn't get enough of the solvents out.
They had a high load of toxicity with the solvent.
But the carbon-60 molecule itself is inert.
It's clean.
It can't bother you.
Your body's used to it.
We're made out of 23% carbon.
Our plants and vegetables and fish and meat, they're all carbon-based.
So carbon is not an unfamiliar material for your body.
As a matter of fact, it's very familiar.
Carbon is the essence of life.
We're carbon beings.
So So it works.
It's very compatible.
And there's no negative, no downside.
We have not had any with our carbon product because it's clean.
So that works very good.
And it performs relatively quickly.
It's like putting two magnets close to each other and all of a sudden, bam, it works.
Okay, so do you have any, like, I don't know, because you, okay, so let's talk about the products, right?
So I'm not sure if I can bring up the, maybe the link here, if it'll take me over there.
I've got a, I've got a bottle of the product.
This is our flagship product, which is our Carbon 60 in Sunflower Oil.
We use a high quality Sunflower Oil with a low Linoleic acid or that Omega-6.
You know, a lot of seed oils have a bad rep because they're saying, oh, they got a lot of Omega-6s in there.
But the one we use in particular, it's cold pressed, which keeps the Omega-6s very low.
Matter of fact, lower than olive oils or lower than, you know, coconut oils or avocado oil.
So those are the popular ones that are used.
Those are all of our products right there.
Okay.
Not, not all of them.
We have, we have a horse product too, which is not, not shown there, but yeah, the 45 day, the first bottle on the far left is the Carbon 60.
That's our flagship product.
That's what we started with.
And then we ended up putting it in water as a topical mist.
You can spray that on over muscle joints or pains or on your skin, wherever you have a problem underlying your skin, or you have a skin condition, or if you want to spray it, It will actually penetrate through the skin.
The particles are small enough that as that little micro bubble of mist of water dries, it'll push the carbon-60 into the skin and it'll go and it'll seek out those positively charged Problematic areas that are in your body.
And it pushes right through the skin and it'll reach an organ in five minutes.
We have documented proof of that.
Putting it on topically on the skin, it'll go through and reach a heart or reach a liver or pancreas or whatever organ has the problem.
It'll seek out the positive charge.
It's amazing how it does that.
It seeks it out and corrects the problem.
And then we have a face serum, which is a, we're using squalane oil.
Uh, which is a very high, high end cosmetic oil.
And most companies put 2 or 3%, and we use 100% squalane oil.
And then we add the carbon to it.
So that's all it is.
We're a 2 company.
A two-ingredient business.
All of our products only have two ingredients.
They have carbon-60 and either oil, water or oil or square that off.
So that's it.
And then we have a horse product too that helps horses with their hoofs and foundering and so forth like that.
And there's no placebo effect with horses or any of your dogs and pets.
We have a pet product too.
Okay, so let me see.
Is it on your website here at all, the pet, the one for pets?
Yes, it's on the pet.
If you go to, I believe if you go to shop, you'll see the product, yeah.
And then if you scroll down a little bit, yeah, you know, there's the pet, the black one right in the middle there.
Oh, right, okay.
Yeah, and that comes in a little convenient squirt bottle because we had customers, they were using, it's the same liquid basically in a dropper bottle, the 45-day oral supplement.
It's the same liquid, same thing.
Okay.
But as the pet owner would open the bottle, You know, their dog would jump up on them and they'd spill it, so we ended up putting it in a spray bottle.
Yeah, yeah, because there's no placebo effect, so the dogs know that it's good for them, and they would, they would, you know, and we had a couple people do that, and that was enough to give us a incentive to put it in a squirt bottle.
It comes out as a stream, and like one squirt for a cat, and like maybe five squirts for a large dog.
And so it's real convenient to use the method.
The animals, the pets, the cats, or whatever, they'll come up and seek out the carbon-60 first.
I had one guy hit five cats.
They go line up and wait for them to get together.
You know, I mean, it was amazing how they do it.
And then that one on the left, we have a roll-on applicator, which is like a little band roll-on, if you remember those things.
It rolls on.
You don't have to get your hands oily or, you know, you don't have to rub it on.
You can just use that.
And that's great for, you know, for topical applications and penetrating the skin.
But the Carbon 60 in the water, if you scroll up a little bit, The one in the water products, yeah, the mist we call it.
We say mist away your pain because that's kind of what it's set up for.
That's a little bit more convenient to use.
It actually, you know, evaporates very quickly, like five minutes or so, so you're not oily from putting a roll-on on or putting it on topically.
It's mainly a convenience factor, but the squalane oil, the face serum, That absorbs into the skin very quickly.
Five, ten minutes you can put your makeup on.
Okay.
So, in terms of, you know, overall, like people that might have, let's say, cancer, would they use the topical?
Would they use the internal or both?
We recommend taking the oral supplement on a daily basis, because that goes through your body, it'll go to your stomach, it'll seek out the problem.
But you may have a problem in your brain, let's say, going on, or something up there, where most of the carbon-60 will go to, or your liver, let's call it.
It goes to your liver, but you got a problem, a skin condition on your leg.
So if you put it on topically, you can flood that part of your body.
Right.
Using it topically.
So, take it orally, so it makes your whole body, basically, you know, sets everything on fire in your body, or not on fire, but it lights up your cells and makes them make some function.
And then putting it on topically, locally, it's like a one-two punch.
You get a higher concentration wherever you put it on topically.
Okay, that makes sense.
So, now what I want to do here is, You know, if there's anything you want to address and I haven't asked you about it, then go right ahead.
I'm just going to look at the chat in the meanwhile and see if we've got any questions cropping up.
Okay.
Well, I can talk a little bit about, you know, why carbon-60 came about in a different way.
If you've heard of Shungite, Shungite's a rock that's come from Karelia, Russia.
And there's carbon-60 in it, and that's why that makes the carbon-60 work.
I mean, there's carbon-60 in the Shungite.
And so the carbon-60 in the Shungite, they use it for putting on cell phones to mitigate EMFs and so forth like that.
It's been a Cold War secret.
They kept it in Russia, and during World War II, it was a secret.
And then in 2014, they published a book On Shungite that was published in English in 2016, and that's when I read about it.
And you know, I've heard of Shungite before because being with Carbon 60, I've heard about it.
It's a black rock.
There's a meteor that came in and struck Russia.
and blew everything up, and all the carbon that was on the surface of the earth, the vegetation, flew up in the air, burnt up in the fireball, and some of it reformulated, came back as carbon-60, and it went into this molten silica rock, And it's like a charcoal briquette, but twice as hard.
You know, you could probably scratch it, dig at it.
Well, I have some, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's the active ingredient in the Shungite is the carbon-60.
I had no idea that there was any relationship between the two.
That started everybody looking at carbon-60 back then.
They didn't know what it was, probably, until they discovered what carbon-60 was in 1985.
You know, they knew that there was water running through these rocks, and it picked up some of the carbon-60 molecules, and people would drink the water in Russia and have a healing effect.
And that started the whole craze about Shungite, and then that led into carbon-60.
Fascinating.
Okay, that's great to know.
So both of them, I guess, are highly recommended, in essence.
Yes, yes.
People put pieces of shungite in their room and they sort of absorb the EMFs that are not good for you.
The EMF stands for electromagnetic frequencies.
Those other frequencies, the electric, the dirty electricity, as they call it.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, I keep it right near my computer, so, you know, when I'm doing shows and stuff, maybe it helps.
I don't know.
I don't even know, but, you know.
Well, you got that same thing, but you put it in.
Now, carbon has been around for a long, long time.
Okay, you know, people have used carbon to absorb toxins in your body, and they do.
They adsorb them.
They'll statically stick to the activated charcoal, let's say, or something you get out of a campfire, the carbon.
But the carbon-16 molecule is so much smaller in size, and it does the same thing.
It neutralizes a toxin, but it gives an electron to the molecule.
So, they work very similar and very different.
As a matter of fact, going back 5,000 years ago, if you heard about that, and somewhere in Austria, they found a man buried in the ice for 5,000 years.
His name is Ötzi.
They call him Ötzi.
And on his body, 5,000 years ago, they found like three lines.
There'd be three lines over here.
of carbon that was under the skin.
So someone obviously took a like a like a piece of bone or something with some charcoal, some carbon, and put it under the skin.
And they had three stripes here.
He had one over his appendix, I think, and various parts of his body where they had some problem or some injury or something wasn't working right.
So they were using carbon way back 5,000 years ago to help people with healing and cleaning.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I don't see anybody asking any questions.
So guys, people that are listening live here, if you want to ask Bob a question, you know, feel free.
And so we're Otherwise, we're going to wrap this up pretty soon, but just wanted to keep it kind of short and sweet so we can just get people to be aware of your product again.
And it's always, I've got an ad on my website.
So you just scroll down on the front page and you'll see and click on it and you'll, you'll go over to the right place.
So any, any other sort of additional news that you might want to share with the people?
Well, you know, a lot of doctors are now starting to get on board.
You know, I've got a practitioner that's just started, you know, using it and he's going, he's got, he's using the mist on people and seeing the results.
He said, the pain goes away.
This is crazy.
It sells itself.
You know, so, so he's one of our resellers.
You know, and we've got doctors out there that are using the product.
They sell the product.
They promote the product.
They back it.
They're behind it.
So, a lot more doctors are coming on board.
And since this is not a drug, it's a dietary supplement.
So, it's not a prescription thing.
So, you can order it online.
You can go to Keri's site, order it there.
You can call us direct and tell us you heard us from Keri Cassidy.
We want Keri to get the credit.
So, so if you want, if I can get my phone number out and if people want to call.
Yeah, if you want to do that, you're welcome to.
Yeah, yeah, our direct phone number, and we have a live person that answers the phone all the time.
We don't really use recordings or push buttons, so you call, you'll get somebody live unless the phones are stacked up and, you know, but we'll call you back shortly.
But the phone number is 720-600-6040.
OK, and I think I have it actually.
It's actually on the ad as well, so I'll pull that out.
Okay, good.
But I am seeing a couple questions now, so one of them is, is it efficient on the nervous system?
Well, usually you have the nervous system.
The problem is the degradation of the myelin sheath, which covers the nerve, and that starts leaking or so forth and spilling out its electrical charge, and that's been the problem with it.
Now, and there's another interesting story that there's nanotubes, which are very like rolled up chicken wire made out of carbon, the same thing.
It's like a buckyball, but They're called fullerenes also, but they're tubular structures, and they're putting those in where people have severed nerves, and they're putting those in those patients, and they're exercising them a little bit, aligning up the carbon as a conductive rod, and they're starting to be able to get their nerve function back.
So, yeah, it's good for nerves.
It's good for mental clarity also.
We have cognitive functions going up considerably.
People, you know, remembering things or thinking more clearly.
I have, you know, doctors and chiropractors and crypto traders and people that use their mind a lot using the product.
And they see an improvement in the sharpness of mind, even in a sharp person.
You know, so it works for a lot of people.
And there's no age limit here.
You know, we've had people take it when they were carrying a child all through their pregnancy.
So, you know, there's no toxicity to this product, to our product anyways.
We don't have the solvent, so don't have the, you know, anything else in there.
Just it's clean carbon-60.
Excellent.
Now there's another person that wants to know, are there any natural sources for carbon-60?
Well, you can find carbon-60 naturally, but it's not concentrated.
Like if there's a lightning strike and it hits a tree, which is made out of carbon, And it burns up that carbon at the high, high temperatures.
That's usually what it takes is a very high temperature to convert it into carbon-60.
And so a lightning strike, you'll see some, some very, very little in a tip of a candle.
They found it in, well they found it in Shungite.
And they found it in intergalactic space.
They said that the carbon-60 is out through the universe, floating around out there, and that very well could be the seed of life, the carbon that, you know, seeded some of these planets out there.
So yeah, it's a natural product.
We convert it in the laboratory, though.
We make it, I guess you'd call it synthetically, but we start with something with carbon, Yeah, I mean, someone wants to know if you can make it at home.
and then we reformulate it into the carbon nanosphere.
- Yeah, I mean, someone wants to know if you can make it at home.
I don't think you can use temperatures, you know, these high temperatures at home, right? - No, you can't.
It's very difficult to make it at home.
It's a very elaborate.
Now, people say that they make it at home, but they actually buy the carbon-60 power powder.
They blend it into oil, but it's the industrial grade carbon-60 powder.
That's the only powder that's available out there in the world is a solvent extracted.
No, I don't care what anybody says out there.
There's different ways to clean the solvents out, but you never get them all out.
They chemically bond to the carbon-60 molecule.
So if people say, oh I make carbon-60, well it's very unprobable that they're doing a... because it takes an elaborate setup.
They take carbon rods and they burn them together with a high temperature with an arc welder and in a helium environment they collect the soot, they put it into the solvent and extract it, but it's all solvent-extracted carbon-60.
So we're the only ones in the world that produce a so-called food grade Carbon 60, because we have no contaminants at all.
And we don't use the carbon arc solvent extraction technique.
I developed a conversion, carbon 60 conversion process, which uses no solvents.
And I think that that is important just for people to know that.
So I think that kind of answers the question.
Someone says the fullerene looks like an ancient flower of life symbol.
Does that make sense?
Well, people have said, you know, it has what they call it the, you know, the symmetry You know, of the flower of life, but yeah, it's made out of pentagons and hexagons.
It's a very pretty molecule.
You know, most molecules get... Yeah, I think it looks more like a buckyball than anything, really.
Right, well, that's what the buckyball is.
This is a model of Yeah, I would say.
Okay, well, thank you.
So thanks everyone for watching.
And thank you, Bob, for being here.
And we'll, we'll have you back in the future sometime.
And, you know, it's all available on my website.
So please do.
And I also, I'll put the link into my telegram for those of you that also go over there.
Great.
All right.
Thank you and take care.
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