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July 8, 2024 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY JEAN CLAUDE: PATRICK BYRNE "DANGER CLOSE"

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And welcome to today's War Correspondent Report.
	Today, we are going to be tying the dots here in the narrative rollout of the Patrick Byrne book, The Julian Assange Liberation, and of course, Trump and the White Hats.
	With me to discuss all of these amazing topics is the one and only Keri Cassidy.
	You can find her work at projectcamelotportal.com.
	She's also the author of The Rebel Gene, which you can find also on Amazon.
	Keri, welcome back to the show.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	How are you?
	I'm doing well.
	I'm excited to have this conversation with you tonight.
	Carrie, thank you for being here.
	You look great and in good spirits, as always.
	We're going to have a nice conversation tonight.
	This leads into, or stems from, rather, a conversation you and I had a couple of days ago.
	On the phone, we kind of talked about some of our disappointments with respect to the rollout, the narrative, the limited hangouts that we're seeing, and how people might be discouraged from actually looking for themselves.
	And this is kind of why we wanted to have this conversation.
	I'll get into that in a moment.
	I just want to let the audience know we're triple casting right now on YouTube X and on Rumble.
	We're going to be dropping the YouTube feed in about five minutes or so here.
	So if you look in the description box below, guys, you'll see the link to come and join us on Rumble.
	Let me bring that back down to the live chat.
	All right.
	So, Kerry, as I just mentioned there in the introduction, it very much feels like we're entering this new phase of the war, and the struggle for control of the narrative is probably paramount.
	We're seeing the big titans fight for that control.
	To some extent, in the conversation you and I had on the phone the other day, It appears that that control has been lost, or somehow it's ran away from some of the White Hats, and they're trying to stop it, slow it down, bringing it back under a certain narrative and limited hangouts.
	Your first thoughts on that, your perception of what's going on right now, and some of your frustration, perhaps, if you want to share with the audience as to why perhaps it feels like we're being manipulated, and maybe there's a strategy for us to get out from underneath that control.
	Kerry, what are your first thoughts there?
	Well, I mean, I have lots of thoughts.
	I read Patrick Byrne's book and actually had written read another book that was he kind of posted online earlier.
	That was maybe a year ago or something.
	So I have been watching him and his work as much as possible.
	Um, I, I, my general comment about the sort of some, you know, there's a, a desire to control the narrative for humans in general.
	Okay.
	And that's the white hats and that's the dark hats and that's the mainstream media.
	Okay.
	Wherever you want to place them.
	And so.
	In fact, case in point, I just got some information from the real police chief who is the former police chief of Colorado.
	Go figure!
	He's like totally awakened and he's working a little bit, I guess you might say, behind the scenes with Alex Collier and other sources.
	He has come forward.
	He's actually told me he's publishing it right now, so I think I'm at liberty to say Maybe I'm not supposed to say it on this segment.
	Do you want me to hold it off?
	I think that we need real disclosure and we need to make sure that we're on it.
	And I'll just say, I think that we need real disclosure and we need to make sure that we're on it.
	So in the past, the way we always thought about journalists was that they were going to break the story.
	They were going to get to the bottom of the story.
	And of course, that has all gone by the wayside over the years because as mainstream took over and was taken over, less and less truth came out.
	We still get bits and pieces and of course WikiLeaks, case in point, was always very cutting edge and interestingly Julian Assange visited Camelot back in the day and was one of our fans, so I'm proud to say that.
	Wonderful, wonderful man.
	Incredible intellect and the things that they've done to break through to the truth, you know, I totally admire.
	So, I do have some things to say about that on the other side.
	Anything else you want me to say or are we already done with this section or what goes on?
	I think we can add safely here, still for the YouTube audience, this is not happening in a bubble.
	Of course, we're leading up to the election and part of our, I guess, concern with some of the stuff that's coming up, we can see the rollouts now, we can see what appears to be a series of death punches towards the Democratic Party and the hangers-on that still believe that this corpse is running the country.
	But at the same time, we're not having the true discourse in depth of what we need to do as a country to repair some of those problems.
	So, in my view, and some of the views of our audience reading their comments over the last number of months, it very much appears that the narrative that is being put out now, and the fight for the narrative, It's really just to put the new guy in place, but to let pretty much everything else in the same kind of position without rocking any boats.
	And that's frustrating to a lot of people, a lot of Truthers, a lot of Patriots, who are saying, well, okay, yes, that would probably be better of a scenario than the one we have now.
	But if we're just going to do that, meet a new boss, and that nothing is going to change in between, and that we can't really have conversations about real things and real justice, then it's a problem.
	We're not actually solving any problems.
	Your thoughts on that?
	The fact that it seems to be a limited hangout here just to change the seat of power, but not really to change the defects of the system itself.
	Well, I think that's a very loaded statement.
	I think that we have to give the White Hats some credit here, because whether you pay attention or not, and I know it's difficult, 107 has been dropping some truth all along, and some great truth, actually.
	But in between that, he's doing his religious stories that are distracting and frustrating for some of us.
	Some, I guess, just love that stuff.
	I don't.
	I think there's tons of disinfo there.
	So, tucked in and away around his truth, he's doing that.
	So, I think that is confusing the issue.
	I think that he's treading a very difficult path.
	He's a military guy, they are trying to be secretive, which that's a whole discussion in itself.
	How secret can you be when you both use AI, you both follow the same playbook in terms of tricks of the trade and, you know, Zen of the Art of War or whatever it's called, you know what I'm saying?
	In other words, they're following the same playbook now and they do a lot of the same things and Yes, some of the more diabolical things are initiated by the dark side, but then how much mitigation is really happening on the side of the light, and are they even capable?
	I mean, maybe their military isn't up to the speed?
	We don't know.
	So, I'm just saying that I can't answer that with just a yes-no answer, because We are hopeful that more disclosure will come from the good guys, and that the closer we get, let's say, to Trump coming back in office officially, then hopefully truth will come out.
	And there are some twists and turns in this road.
	The White Hats are working to get the truth out, but they're doing it in a backhanded way.
	And they're also doing it while in hiding, which is another, you know, I don't know, slight of hand, you might say.
	And so we're really in this game, and Q, the Q drops, is a case in point as well, because the Q drops do the same thing.
	They're giving you clues, they're not telling you exactly.
	You know, I tend to be a straight shooter, so of course I'm not thrilled with that.
	I did follow Pew earlier in the earlier days to see if there was something there.
	For me, coming where I come from, in doing this 20 years with whistleblowers from above top secret, etc., it wasn't earth-shaking in any way for me.
	Right, but it was a psychological operation and it was designed in such a way to wake up some people to even ask questions and to start digging.
	Like the game, you know, if you're an online person and you like following those clues.
	But there are people in our midst who are still patriots who are not online people and don't like those games.
	I'm just saying.
	It's a different part of the population.
	Now, I agree with you with the conversation here and the narrative that seems or the control of the narrative that seems to be being played out with the White Hats.
	On one hand, it's frustrating, but we don't always understand The reasoning for it, and we understand also the games that are being played in the background that makes it very difficult to be transparent.
	That being said, I really had a good conversation with Juan in this interview.
	We did this three-hour marathon.
	Some of the questions he answered quite directly.
	There was a lot of great information.
	Some were a little bit more opaque by his own description, but having to do perhaps with ongoing operations, and we understood why he needed to do that.
	I was impressed though with this particular interview because Like you, I had kind of been disappointed in a previous interview he had done early in the year from, or coming from, Antarctica, where he was suggesting that having the conversation about ETs was kind of whimsical and silly, that the real problem was just a bunch of, you know, breakaway humans or Nazis in Antarctica.
	And I did call him out on that, and he did accept the fact that, yeah, yeah, there's a bigger context, but right now we needed to be focused on this particular thing.
	So I have to give him credit for Being in that interview, being there so long with me and answering some of those questions.
	So, guys, I think this is it for the YouTube feed.
	We've already maybe triggered some of the keywords there.
	Let me bring the link back down for you guys in the link now, if you want to come and join us on Rumble now for the rest of the conversation.
	We'll see you there in just one moment.
	All right, so remove here.
	And there you go.
	We are now, yes, I'm just confirming, live on Rumble and on Twitter.
	We have about 4,000 there on Rumble.
	Okay, Kerry, there's a couple of things we need to talk about tonight.
	So, Patrick Byrne's book, I want to focus on three things, I think, in that book, maybe more, depending on how much time we have tonight, but the Russia collusion set up, the bribery mechanism of Hillary Clinton, and then the whole election fraud I want to call it boondoggle for now, but how he connects a lot of the dots for the audience and for the people reading his books.
	I want to start there with you, have an understanding of what you got from that, what I got from that, and then maybe start drilling down and encouraging people to not stay at the surface of what's being presented in the book, but to go a lot deeper here so that, again, we are in control a little bit more of the narrative and the disclosure And the information field moving forward.
	Then, of course, we're going to look at how that ties into what just happened now with Julian Assange being released.
	WikiLeaks, the fact that they've ordered them to remove 20,000 emails regarding the DNC and how that's already on the internet for everybody else to see right now.
	And the tit for tat that might be being played as a gag order, but also as a psychological operation to bring even more information that is yet undisclosed.
	That was part of that gag order, if you read the documents from earlier this morning.
	So, Kerry, let's start with the book.
	Let me bring this up here.
	Patrick Byrne, Danger Close, I think is the name of the book, yes, and Domestic Extremist No.
	1.
	So, I've read this already now twice.
	I've got a gazillion annotations in here.
	I was preparing to do this interview with Patrick Byrne.
	I thought I was going to do it this week, but it was pulled or delayed here, perhaps having something to do with what just happened with Assange.
	Your first overview of the book, why it's important to read, and how it tied in some of the pictures for you.
	Let's start there, Kerry.
	Okay, so I actually have an article sitting on my desk that I've written, I was writing as I was reading, and I've also got quotes, and I think they're all good quotes, and I don't know, I might be able to post the quotes into the chat as we go, just in case people want to see which quotes I pulled out of the book.
	Look, I admire Patrick Byrne.
	I admire his work, his energy, his stamina in the face of the fact that he's also been fighting cancer behind the scenes on and off his entire life.
	And apparently he was an amazing athlete too, which maybe is why he stayed alive, you know, through thick and thin.
	But I have some issues with his story, and because of how intelligent he is, I think he knows more than he's saying, all right?
	So I have to give him that credit, because coming from my standpoint, you know, again, 20 years with whistleblowers, I am, you might say, hypercritical of people that come out and make a big thing of something that's very superficial.
	So he calls it the Deep State.
	I call it the tip of the iceberg of the Deep State, you know, that he was really dealing with.
	And he was trying to fake them out on top of it in sort of a silly way.
	You know, if you don't mind.
	You're talking about the rape and murder of Maria.
	Yeah.
	So when he went way off the, you know, I mean, I don't know.
	You know, and he was working, obviously, he was working with, who was it, it was two people, Comey and someone else, and he was reporting to them, basically, and others, and a group, and they gave him a letter which got him out of jail free, so to speak.
	Yes, and all of that.
	So it's kind of a fascinating story, although I have to say, in my opinion, he does not go very deep below the surface.
	So he follows the mainstream thinking about what happened, who's who, and that sort of thing.
	And of course, that never sits well with me.
	So, so I take issue with certain things and I mean we can go blow by blow through the whole thing.
	I think it's a fascinating study.
	I think he's I like his honesty to the level he goes, you know, I like that he does say he's and I do think I think your interview I told you this behind the scenes, but I think I'll say it here is that I think your interview might have been at least postponed or even maybe put by the wayside because he is a loose cannon.
	I think that it's possible based on his book, okay, his personality that comes through his book.
	He seems like he would say anything at any time, especially now.
	That he's kind of out from under his security, what he considered to be the signed security oath and so on and so forth, trying to protect, at that point, what was really the Obama and then the Biden governments, okay?
	So, he was not working for the White Hats, all right, at those points.
	Now, he switched over, got involved with the White Hats, in spite of himself, it seems, and he also Didn't really get them.
	And he still doesn't.
	He doesn't even, I don't think he even uses the word White Hats.
	He says, almost, I think he says nothing about Space Force.
	You know, now... He doesn't talk about the Illuminati in the book also.
	Not at all.
	It's more the Deep State.
	I think he focuses on the level of the Deep State.
	The Deep State, but the conventional idea of the deep state.
	I mean, the real deep state is the Illuminati, okay?
	It's a combination of all that.
	And some of these people he's dealing with are behind the scenes, even the generals, or some of them are dark magicians.
	You understand that?
	So I am tired, very tired, of people not getting it, okay?
	Okay, of this superficiality, especially the Washington DC crowd that sort of likes to flatter themselves, but does not get the story.
	Okay, they do not get the real diabolical Underpinnings of what is happening on our planet.
	And you may say, well, that doesn't, you know, they're just protecting themselves and their families.
	And, you know, they are people that were brought up on a sort of superficial political line, and they don't want to let any of these other things in.
	And even Juan wants us to keep to a certain narrative, and I object to that strongly.
	And there are reasons for that, and the reasons for that have to do with the fact that we're going into the future much faster than I think the White Hats want.
	And you alluded to that in your opening statement.
	And I think that's a problem.
	I think life And God, whatever you want to call God, the plan, the real plan, you know, the plan for humans that God has.
	By the way, you're, you know, the White Hats are not the first people tried to awaken people.
	They think they're using their plan, but actually God's got his plan, okay?
	And it's not their plan.
	They're not at one, okay?
	So, I just want to say that there are decisions being made here for humanity on the part of the White Hats.
	That may be off base, and luckily we have someone else who's in the driving seat on the planet and, you know, out externally to here, and we may have lots of backseat drivers and we've got all kinds of alien, you know, input and messing with us and all kinds of craziness.
	We've also got some interesting timeline either switches or interference or you know whatever mandala effects and various things that I was just checking out a very young woman who's talking about that and it's happening around us and people most people in the mainstream completely ignore.
	But you see, these things are changing our perceptions of reality.
	And you know, I see the White Hats are kind of like chasing a train that has gone out of the whatever you call those places, trains are kept.
	The train station, yeah.
	Love the station.
	And you know, they're like running to catch it and to control it.
	But I don't think it's going to work.
	I don't think it's working now.
	Because people, it's like, you know, if you ever have given a speech before the audience and you realize that the audience is equal to you, they know what you know, or they might even be ahead of you.
	You have to listen.
	You have to listen to the audience and not to yourself.
	You gotta read the room.
	Yeah, so they're not reading the room, in my opinion.
	Not enough.
	And maybe they're giving themselves too many, you know, compliments behind the scenes and all these kind of things.
	Or maybe they're just terrified because they are pushing, you know, basically trying to save humanity.
	It's a big order, no doubt.
	So I give them credit on the one hand, but I'm critical on the other.
	Yeah, and let me echo that, too.
	There's a couple of things I want to say before we get into the book and Assange also.
	So, on one hand, what you just said about the White Hats maybe not being in control and wishing us to be in a certain narrative, I also object to that, and I've objected Uh, like officially here on the channel, uh, in, in my life videos and in person also in certain conversations that had to do with that.
	And my point was always, listen, guys, I, I'm not your enemy, but I'm being guided by source, by God, whatever you want to use to fight this war as I see fit as an agent for that particular change.
	And I'll see you guys on, on, uh, in the, uh, battlefield and hopefully on the, uh, on the other side of success.
	But in the meantime, I don't want to be in your way, but I have to do it my way.
	So I just wanted to say that again for this audience tonight.
	And I think a lot of people will understand what I'm trying to get at there.
	Like, this is not about thwarting the plan or putting people in danger.
	That's the last thing I want to do.
	And I use a lot of discernment in the things I share and in the timing of the things I share for that very reason.
	So I think that's important.
	To the credit of the White Hats, too—and we have to acknowledge this—so far, people still have their jobs, for the most part.
	Their banks are still working.
	There's not people dying in the streets, although there's the opioid stuff and all that.
	But generally speaking, in the context of how bad this could have gone—and there's a lot of scenarios where we could have seen catastrophic losses of life here in this spiritual battle we're fighting—so far, they've managed to hold it all together as they're fighting this war.
	So there's a lot of credit to be given there.
	And I don't think we even understand a minimum amount of what's being done to safeguard human lives there behind the scene and how that might be impeding on their ability to do exactly what they want to do.
	So I have to give them credit there as well.
	Now, going back to Patrick Byrne and his book, Danger Close, to me, like you, I think he's a fascinating individual.
	A lot of respect for what he's achieved in his life, the battle also with cancer, dying a couple of times, quite too many times coming back and doing his work.
	He's definitely, as somebody quoted in the book, a horse of a different color.
	This guy is not the average human being.
	I'm very fascinated with the connections.
	Early on, of course, he describes how his father helped work or save a company that was owned by Warren Buffett at the time and how Warren Buffett became his mentor of one of his mentors.
	So that kind of set the stage to the hobnobbing and the people and the elites that he would know later on in his life.
	I thought that was very fascinating.
	I think, like you, he's a very intelligent guy.
	I hope that when I interview him, I could get to that intelligence, because there's a lot of things in the book that if I were in the one-on-one conversation, I'd love to go a lot deeper than what he's presented.
	Now, I understand this book.
	First of all, it's fascinating, and I think the audience will agree, if they read it, that it does connect a lot of the dots in a way that perhaps nobody has done so far, looking at the Russia collusion, Clinton, and the election fraud.
	Now, that being said, I think this is a one-two punch.
	I think this book is a preparation of the stage.
	As you said, we have to read the room, they have to educate the room a little bit here, in order to get to the next part.
	And I think that's where probably Patrick is going to shine the most, is on that second punch that's coming around the corner.
	What that may be, you and I can discuss and we can extrapolate here, given the hints that he's giving in this book.
	Danger Close.
	So I love the book.
	I think it does a lot for a lot of people, especially people coming from the four who are having difficulty expressing and putting names, peoples, and dates in their arguments when they're talking with the Democrats about the stoning election.
	In this book, he goes to the 30,000 foot, the 3,000 foot, the 300 foot, the 30 foot, the three foot explanation of all of that.
	And I think he did a fabulous job there.
	So I think it's going to help a lot of people.
	But for you and me, it's like, well, we didn't go far enough yet, and it doesn't address maybe the bigger hand at play behind the scenes.
	You mentioned the Illuminati, we can go all the way back to the Elohim worship cult, and then the ETs, and my conversation would go on.
	So I'm looking forward to having Patrick Barn on the interview.
	So let's get into...
	Let's look at the Russia Collusion.
	His whole role in that, this character Maria, I'll bring her up also here, to me and to some extent this particular character, Bettina, is kind of like a distraction in the book.
	It felt like a spy novel, the spy meets girl and all that, and I understand that there's underpinnings of how Washington DC works and how Some of these female influences, we saw the movie Red Spiral, how that kind of ties into the political discourse.
	But to me, I really didn't want to concentrate on that.
	I really am impressed by the way that he described how basically the Russia collusion stuff started even before Trump was a candidate.
	So this was going to be a setup for whoever was going to be at the reins of the Republican Party.
	Can I stop you right there?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I thought that was actually disinfo.
	Now, I don't know.
	I can't think that he's that stupid.
	Now, maybe he is.
	You know, smart people can be very stupid in certain ways, but that statement is just wrong.
	So just because Trump hadn't come down the aisle yet, Didn't mean that anyone in Washington, D.C.
	hadn't heard that Trump was gonna run or that Trump was the guy, you know?
	So I'm going to do that because- - Trump has been asked, even when he was a young man, by Ronan Kennedy Jr.
	if he was gonna, you know. - Trump's been groomed for this for a long time.
	So I agree with you on that surface that yes, the- - If you were planning a sting or you're planning an operation, surely you're looking at your opponent every step of the way And I have a friend who gives me these reports from the Democratic side.
	And he, you know, the stuff they worry about, they worry like, It's ridiculous.
	They worry so far in advance of every little thing.
	Every little threat.
	And so, yes, they are prepared.
	Yes, they probably have all scenarios prepared.
	I think Trump was already in the back or the front of people's minds, and maybe he was even being talked about in the news.
	You know, it's far back to remember, so I don't remember exactly.
	The funny thing is that I got involved in mainstream politics, so-called Washington D.C.
	politics, ever since I got involved with the White Hats and especially when Q came forward and then Trump.
	Prior to that, I just ignored it.
	I just thought the whole thing was a lie, which turns out it is, but nonetheless, Even when I was young, when I was a teenager, I couldn't stand politics.
	I just thought, these people just get up there and lie.
	And because I was a, you know, psychic intuitive kid or whatever you want to say, it was just, you know, I just said, okay, you know, I can't stand all this.
	I can't stand the campaigning, the stupid games they play, the stupid shouting at each other and all this.
	I mean, it just seemed juvenile and stupid, and it actually sort of still does.
	Now I understand it more.
	I have a little more sympathy for it.
	I don't like it any better, really.
	It's just, you know, so that's a game.
	It's a game, okay, to say that in the book.
	Hold on a second.
	So I agree with you, a big game.
	And to some extent, we're looking at a unit party, both wings belong to the same bird, like you and I on the same page on that.
	Now, going back to what you just said about the Russia collusion, I have to be with you on that.
	Now, with respect to the dates and the people in the places... Well, I was only, wait, let me just say, I was talking about Bern and Trump coming down the aisle in the plan.
	That's what I want to cue in on.
	So when he talks about these places, people and dates who were engaged in this Russia collusion setup before Trump came in, he might be right that those games and the footprints of that were there before Trump came down the aisle.
	That I agree with his statement.
	But like you, I'm like, Trump's been groomed.
	All his life to be president, and if you look at these 20 generals or so that he calls in the book, being behind him running as a candidate, this has been known for years.
	So, in effect, the deep state knew already, even though the population didn't know that Trump was running, they did.
	So, in that sense, I agree with you that he would be wrong that the deep state was not aware that Trump was going to be the candidate when they were setting up this Russia collusion.
	But he might have more info on that that is not in the book that might help us understand that statement.
	So I'm open to having that conversation with him.
	Now, in terms of the Russian collusion itself, is there anything else you want to tie in now with maybe Putin's role in Ukraine, the user patient of the U.S.
	towards Ukraine, NATO moving further west right now?
	Was this collusion really set up To build that mistrust, to build that narrative, that boogeyman, in order to perpetuate this NATO moving east, sorry, not west, and setting up the stage here for this perpetual war scenario, again, that Julian Assange has been warning us about for decades.
	Do you think that is a tie-in too, or was it more just local politics?
	No, I think all these things work together.
	I think they're all interrelated.
	God, now her name just went out of my mind.
	But the woman who was very instrumental in Ukraine, who sounds more or less like a criminal, you know, back in those days was sort of trying to Run the country, even though she's an American, and I don't, you know, not that high ranking of a person in our political scene.
	I'm sorry, her name is escaping me, but anyway.
	You're talking about Newlin, who said, fuck the EU statement.
	Yes, okay, so what I'm saying here is that, but there's more to the story, okay?
	In other words, they didn't start trying to plot against Trump and to pin this You know, uh, story this, this Russia collusion story, you know, originally it was also Clinton.
	Okay.
	So it was, it was Hillary Clinton and it had been Obama behind.
	I'm not, um, well, Obama probably too, but Biden and his son were heavily active back in those days doing deals.
	This is when, you know, what's his name?
	Um, Hunter was in, Ukraine having involvement with the bioweapons and the building and I've got a whole theory on this which I'd like to share and you know this is so what's interesting is that they take people are taking certain pieces like that little piece of him coming down the aisle and then oh this it in in fact
	If you really want to look at it closely, in some ways Patrick Burns, a lot of his statements and his approach, even the use of him as a quasi-agent in the story, is a kind of limited hangout on purpose.
	Because he acted naive, he was naive, and he still talks in a naive sense, okay?
	Now he's much smarter now, he's much more informed now, but he's keeping a lot back.
	You just said, I need to correct, no, and support what you just said.
	He admits in the book at least twice that he was fooled by these alterations.
	So that's the naivety.
	So that's like a Patsy, do you know?
	And so that's drawing fire.
	He was supposed to draw fire.
	He was supposed to support Now, I don't even get this.
	Let's just talk about this Bettina, who sounds like a lovely person, okay?
	And whether she was an agent for the KGB come over to America or not, you know, Um, and was planted in the audience to ask Trump that some key question, you know, which probably wasn't a key question at all.
	Um, and she cropped up in a few different places, but she was never like, you know, having special meetings with Trump or any of this stuff.
	So, as a journalist, I'm wrapping my mind around this.
	She's in a sort of a press meeting.
	There are a bunch of people there asking questions of Trump.
	She raises her hand and he picks her.
	There's some mention in the book that it might have been orchestrated right behind the scenes.
	Right.
	And he might have been said, you know, someone said, you know, pick the redhead.
	And so she gets to ask her question.
	That is supposed to be Russia collusion?
	That is supposed to be the first, you know, throwing down of the gauntlet saying that Russia, you know, that Trump is a Russia phobe or whatever you call those?
	I mean, what the hell?
	That's just a question.
	Pretty thin.
	Even if she was a fake journalist or whatever, I mean, how many Russian fake journalists do you think are out there?
	And I'm sure plenty of them ask questions in press conferences.
	And plenty of them work in Congress right now.
	I mean, some of our journalists are guilty of that.
	So I don't get that that's such a big, you know, incident that, oh, the FBI was all over it.
	And in fact, this whole charade Which obviously, I have some quotes that I underlined having to do with the fact that, you know, CIA behind the scenes appears to walk in and run the FBI anytime it wants.
	There's a very key piece of information.
	Now, I don't even know if that's in Patrick Byrne's book, but it stood out to me in spades.
	So what we're talking about is an operation that goes far beyond the senator level, all right, first of all.
	And secondly, you know it was Hillary had a lot more dealings with Russia and especially Ukraine in the early days, so if anyone was going to pin a Russia thing on her, obviously we didn't have Republicans trying to do that, but that's what they should, you know, that could have been done much easier.
	Much easier, yeah.
	Now, but that is not what back in the day the evidence that I used to read when they were trying to sell that story had nothing to do with this Maria Bettina person whatsoever.
	It had to do with meetings that actually General Flynn got implicated in having a meeting with some Russian something, you know, whatever.
	I mean, it wasn't all We knew anyone with a brain.
	Michael Cohen, but the wrong Michael Cohen.
	There was a bunch of different leads.
	So much nonsense goes on.
	So I just want to say that.
	And I also want to say that it's kind of like, you know, and I just want to be fair or whatever, but You know, he became infatuated with this woman, and she admitted with him, and found him a useful idiot, so to speak, and went for it, or was instructed to go for it, or who cares?
	You know, but she crops up over and over again throughout the book, when her little role is so small, and then I find out she went to prison for 18 months, for what?
	For what exactly?
	I don't think he ever really explains.
	Did she go to a trial?
	Did I miss something here?
	It wasn't made clear for me in the book either, no.
	So for 18 months, he said she was thrown in a box smaller than his shower or something, I think is how he put it.
	I mean, and that's cruel and unusual punishment for a person who's... all she does is go out to dinner with people, apparently, in Washington.
	That's what she did after she asked the big question, you know, the big earth-shaking question, right?
	So she went out to dinner.
	You know, how many Russians are having dinner right now in Washington, D.C., you know, with their contacts?
	I mean... Lobbyists do that all day long, I know.
	You know, it doesn't hold together.
	It doesn't, you know, maybe, okay, he thought he was the big guy.
	He thought he was the guy that was leading the train for the Russia collusion story.
	He saw through it, finally.
	Then he turned on her in some weird ways and said, you know, hey, do you want me to murder her?
	Which is, why would he even go there?
	I mean, that's the level of crazy that I can't even...
	Just to explain it to the audience, in the book he explains that he never had intention of doing that.
	What he was trying to do was get an imprint of the deep state by suggesting a plan and see who would sign off on it.
	He wanted them to realize he was not their boy.
	He was throwing it in their face.
	And he wanted them to sign off on them.
	The way he described it, he said they were so shocked.
	And they couldn't handle it, and they've got, the way he put it is, they've got families.
	I mean, are you serious, you know, with this explanation for where they're coming from?
	Look, I'm sorry, I don't, I know there's a keystone cop element to our intelligence services, and to the way they behave, but I really, I've dealt with quite a few agents in my time, and they are not that stupid.
	So I don't know if these senators are really as stupid as they sound, but he makes them sound really stupid.
	Or, it's a piece of the puzzle that we're still missing, and void of that information, it's hard for us to make sense of this all.
	We're still missing all kinds of things, but what I'm saying is that from the sound of it, he was not the guy.
	He was not the real operation.
	His was a faux operation, you know, one of the things we've learned.
	Camelot many years ago is you know that the aerospace companies and the companies that are doing unacknowledged special access programs behind the scenes, black projects in essence, they have multiple teams doing the exact same thing.
	You know that?
	Mm-hmm.
	Are you aware of that?
	Yeah.
	So what happens is, like, because back in the day, they thought that the one that was chosen, you know, won the contract and so on and so forth.
	That's not really what's happening.
	And they pit them against each other behind the scenes.
	They don't know about each other.
	They don't know who they are.
	But by now, these teams know that they have competition behind the scenes.
	It increases productivity.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, that's their rationale.
	Whether it really does or not is another matter.
	All I'm saying is that Patrick Byrne and his story was a limited hangout that works for starting the Russia collusion and then seeing through it.
	But I don't buy that he was their key operative.
	Okay, I think something else completely was going on behind the scenes and this is so deep and it's actually much darker than he draws.
	Okay in the book, but we can continue.
	Okay.
	No, I I'm with you on that so far.
	I'm tracking with everything you're saying and I I find the same thing like there's It's too convenient to just tie it up in a bow and Maria Buccina.
	In my view, when I read that, I'm like, okay, it's kind of childish in a way.
	Childish to make a very complicated story very simple.
	So to me, I was put off a little bit by that.
	I mean, did they throw her in prison for 18 months or whatever the hell it was, to make it seem like she was more important than she really was?
	Right.
	Obviously, this woman was used and abused, okay?
	Did she actually go to prison?
	I don't even know if... No, no, but here's the other thing.
	People would suggest that maybe she went there and it was a cottage country kind of prison cell.
	Really, she was padding her resume to have a political career in the East later on.
	Who knows?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, or they, you know, the Russians use clones all the time.
	Maybe they cloned her and had the clone in jail.
	No, because people would agree, but hold on, people would agree that being in prison in the West by the bad West, you know, is a good thing on your resume if you're going to run for politics in the East later on in your life.
	So it's kind of like... Maybe except that if they turn you, you know.
	Right, right, right.
	There's a circumstance for that to happen.
	So again, okay, let's move on from this.
	It's interesting to see he does tie in some people in some places and some faces and dates and I thought that was very interesting nevertheless but yet there's more to be had and I hope he comes on the show and we can ask him these questions.
	Now let's look at the Clinton bribe thing.
	That to me was also interesting.
	So the way he sets it up in the book, so let's just share this part with the audience, was that he was asked by intelligence agencies to set up a meeting between, was it Azerbaijani or Kazakh?
	I forget which country.
	Azerbaijan, yeah.
	Azerbaijani bagman to give money to Clinton on a specific thing to entrap her.
	Now he admits that in the book he thought that when he was doing that and he said yes to that particular mission, It was to not entrap her, but to document a crime that probably would have happened anyway or was in process of happening, as he explains it in the book, and that this would bring some type of justice to a Clinton.
	And then only to realize, as he explains in the book, that this was not the case, that this was ordered in his book by Obama in order to have something on Clinton so that when they installed her after Obama left, that Obama could control Clinton for those next terms in office.
	And he talks about this Bunsen burner of having this particular bride sit on the back burner in case she got out of hand, so to speak.
	So that's how he sets that up.
	What was your reaction reading all of that, Kerri?
	Let's start there.
	Okay, so I don't believe that either.
	I'm sorry.
	Now, look, I'm sure he went through the motions.
	I'm not saying he didn't.
	But, you know, one of the things is, like, that they do, and they, if you have a rabbit, you let him run, right?
	So you let the rabbit run, and he goes down all the aisles you want him to, and so on and so forth.
	And whoever is in the intelligence agencies watches him, and maybe by that, while that's going on, you do something else.
	But, first of all, bribing Hillary Clinton?
	I mean, maybe that happens every day.
	I just think that's the most boring thing I've ever heard, and I don't think it's unusual.
	I think they were all about money, the Clintons.
	And if you follow the money trail with them, it's so obvious.
	He makes it kind of feasible that this particular bribe was what was going to bring her down.
	When, in fact, if we go back 20 years, there's a gazillion things to bring her to justice.
	They didn't need this extra bribe.
	Not to mention, hello, the Hillary computer, you know, her not just fingernails, but the actual machine she had in her house.
	Okay, we're not even there yet, but let me say this.
	Okay, so she has a reputation that goes so far back.
	And the thing is that a lot of people don't realize the pecking order.
	So what's really happening in our country is all the elections were stolen, even including President Kennedy.
	So he won by a stolen vote, okay?
	Let me say that here because I am so sick of people not realizing that.
	This was not, 2020 was not the first stolen election.
	In fact, they stole it back.
	It was being stolen, but they stole it back, okay?
	So, and I have secret whistleblowers, one of whom was killed over this situation, so I'm not kidding about this.
	Now, going back, Bush Sr.
	was always the one in charge, okay?
	And from him on down, whether it was his son Bush or, you know, the Clintons or Obama, you see there's a pecking order there.
	So Obama had to report to the Clintons, the Clintons reported to Bush Senior, you know how it works.
	So this is important when you look at the way they treat each other within that pecking order, right?
	So yes, of course, Obama, these people are treacherous to each other, I'm sure, no doubt about that.
	And I think the Kennedys know, I think John F. Kennedy knows a great deal.
	He, as a young man, got to know the Clintons fairly well, from what I understand.
	So, Juan, I'm talking about, is in on, he knows damn well what Hillary's all about, like, in spades.
	He knows probably, well, there's a thing where he actually I don't know if this is out there or not.
	I, you know, sometimes I get a little mixed up in what I know and what the public knows, but I'll say it anyway because it's not a big deal.
	He supposedly was in disguise as he's famous for being in us disguise with a mask and the whole bodysuit and so and so.
	As a secret agent back in the days of Obama, the Obama regime, and he was very familiar with the fact that Mike, Michelle is a guy.
	Okay, so he knows this in because he pretended to be a security, I think a security guard or something for them.
	Which is incredible.
	Undercover.
	That's a story I heard.
	It blew me away.
	I don't know if that's true.
	By the way, when we were talking about Big Mike, he did mention that he had talked to a comedian who had spilled that to, what was that actress' name who died after saying this, that Michael Obama was a man?
	Oh, the comedian.
	The very famous comedian.
	Yeah.
	I'm having a brain fart.
	Yeah, I... You guys know.
	Anyways, I thought that was fascinating.
	Someone in the chat all... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I thought it was interesting.
	So... Joan, Joan Rivers.
	Joan Rivers.
	There you go.
	Joan Rivers.
	So going back to this bribing of Hillary Clinton, again, similar to the Russia story, it kind of makes it like all small and tight to say, oh, this was just Obama trying to control Clinton moving forward so that he can have more control and installing Michael Obama later on.
	But he doesn't say that.
	Michael doesn't say Michael.
	He says Michelle Obama.
	But that's the small part of the bigger picture we're just talking about now that goes way, way, way, way back.
	Who was reporting to who, who stole this country, and who was in control of all of these elections for a long time.
	And I have to say that Byrne was probably being played in that case as well.
	You know, when you get somebody like him, then you give them tests to see how much they'll believe and what they'll do for you, right?
	Or how crazy he's gonna get, yeah.
	Yeah, and how willing he is to lay down and take it.
	And again, though, just for him, and to be respectful to him, he also says twice in the book that he got duped for this.
	He thought he was doing an altruistic good thing, only to realize he was being used in all of this, too.
	So we have to say that in the book.
	Look, again, I want to give him compliments because I like his honesty.
	I like his willingness to put himself out there the way he's doing.
	I think that that takes courage.
	So this man may have been duped in certain ways, but he definitely had courage.
	And you have to give courage a lot of credit in this case.
	So he's very intelligent, even though he's duped, And he's got courage, but there's a naivete that may be based on a sort of overly idealistic American ideal, right?
	Because a lot of us have that, that we're, you're not American, I realize, but we're born in America.
	We believe the, we drink the Kool-Aid and we believe it.
	We believe we're a free country, or we thought we did, you know, so-and-so.
	So a lot of these things that he thought, he grew up in an Ivy League situation, apparently had A fair amount of money.
	He became Warren Buffett's, you know, whatever you call him, he was his teacher, you know, really full on teacher, mentor, whatever you want to call it.
	And Buffett, arguably, will know a ridiculous amount about what's really running this game, okay?
	So was Buffett that, you know, holding things close at hand so that he didn't educate his young mentor as to the real game being played?
	You know, the satanic setup of Washington D.C., of all the monuments Juan has done, you know, wonderful.
	It goes higher than that, too.
	As I was doing the research for the book, I'm like, man, I want to talk to Michael, to Patrick, about CBDCs, his involvement, his blazing the trail using Bitcoin at Overstock.com, being one of the pioneers there.
	He understood what's happening in the background that nobody's talking about now.
	And by the way, Juan says all the time, Bitcoin is a DARPA operation.
	That's where it was created.
	So are we to assume that Patrick Byrne is as techie as he sounds, which is part of the reason I think they liked him, you know, that he had no idea, you know, that he believed whatever he believed about Bitcoin.
	And he didn't, you know, and let me ask you, you know, because I harp on this over and over again, we're going to get to the fraud, the election fraud thing.
	And the bottom line is He knows what he's some he's give lectures on blockchain.
	So are you going to tell me that he doesn't know what the NSA is doing with blockchain to track all of us?
	Come on.
	I, you know, I have difficulty with some of the statements.
	That leaves so much out, you know, that they're a misdirect.
	It's again, what we call a limited hangout.
	Okay, so that's where I want to get at.
	And I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
	You say naivete, which could very well be the case, or it could be a very The more you look at it, the more it seems that way.
	Now, it's written in a very folksy way.
	He keeps talking about, you know, his dates with this woman that have nothing to do with anything.
	You know, if I was his editor, I'd say, get rid of that shit, because who cares?
	The whole thing about the choir boys, it comes out twice there, too, in the book.
	I'm like, oh, that sounds like 107.
	No, you can't repeat yourself in your book.
	There's one big paragraph that's repeated twice in the book, verbatim, and that's about this golden letter.
	I wanted to ask him about that too, if it's a misprint, if there's something specific there in the code, but I'll get to that if I get to interview him personally.
	Now, let's get into the election fraud.
	I want to preface this, so give me maybe a minute or two to try to lay this out for you.
	In election strategy, typically, if you're a campaign manager and you have limited funds, even if you have big funds, but typically people have limited funds and there's always a fight to be had over the funds, you want to use those funds to be as effective as possible in your election.
	And so your campaign manager will tell you, well, listen, If you have a geographic area, an electoral district, whatever you guys call them in the States, you would have somebody come out and tell you, okay, where are your strong parts?
	Where are the people that vote for you, always vote for you?
	Okay, nevermind that.
	Just do the bare minimum there to make sure you've locked in that vote, but don't spend money there.
	They're already your guys, right?
	And then he'll tell you, look at this area.
	This is the Democratic area.
	These guys have voted Democrat for the last, you know, 200 years.
	They're not going to change their mind.
	Don't spend money there.
	You're wasting your money.
	But here are the undecided, right?
	That's where the battleground is going to be.
	And I think that's very important because the context for the audience here.
	If you were to ask political strategists in the States, what can I do to swing this election with the least amount of resources?
	Where would I fight those battles?
	Most analysts would tell you there's six cities and six states.
	And just so happens that the six cities that stopped the counting that night are those exact cities that you would need to flip in order to flip the election.
	So he goes through that detail in the book.
	I'm like, okay, finally, a guy who understands politics who's talking to you just on the logic stuff.
	Before we get into the machines and all the other stuff, the cloak and dagger stuff, right there, you have to have a red flag to say, okay, What are the chances of that happening?
	And there's a page in the book, I'm just going to bring it up, a specific graphic also with these machines.
	I don't know if you'll see it, but it stops counting, and then when it starts counting again, the votes go up, and the other guy wins, right?
	So this is what happened.
	Now, the 30,000-foot view all the way down to the three-foot view, I think he explains it, I think is fabulous.
	For most people who are still struggling, having heard all the crazy stories in the last number of years of why this election was stolen, and in counterpart, listening to the mainstream news, oh no, Trump lost all his cases on election fraud, and Giuliani's being charged millions of dollars for the same thing.
	And in retrospect, when you really look at it, in most cases, they lost on standing, not on merit.
	Those are two different things, and they're confabulating and they're confusing the audience members here in mainstream news.
	So having said that, this book, I think, will help a lot of people really understand and get to at least some of those critical elements that you can't really go around and deny.
	So I think that was really well done in that particular part of the book.
	There's a lot more in this election interference thing, and there's a deep state, there's a Hunter Biden laptop, which now they've just admitted was true.
	I lost a channel on this a couple of years ago, because apparently at that time it was Russian propaganda, so had said the 51 intelligence agencies.
	But now here we are, all of this is coming out.
	Your thoughts now on that part of the book, and perhaps why The rest of it is not as important as getting into the election part here, as again, we're just around the corner here for the next election.
	What are your thoughts about that part of the book?
	Let's start there.
	Okay, well, before I forget, I want to talk about the Hunter Biden laptop, because there's a disclosure in there that talks about the fact that Patrick Burns somehow was involved in knowing about the Hunter Biden laptop and that Hunter Biden erased before he dropped it off at this computer guy place to get fixed.
	Some of the key, whatever you might say, dirty laundry, whatever it was, probably, you know, the dialogues with China over money, where it was most likely, but some of the awful, maybe some even worse stuff that we, you know, pedo stuff and all that.
	So he, Hunter himself, I thought he was like a drugged out crazy who just dropped off his computer and left it by mistake.
	That was the story.
	No!
	Now we know premeditation was involved.
	He premeditatedly deleted the crucial stuff and he didn't want it on there except That somehow, and there's a way to rescue deleted stuff off a computer, blah, blah, blah.
	And Patrick Byrne, of all people, like, where is he?
	He's always like, call Patrick.
	He's got to handle this.
	Call Patrick.
	He's got to handle that.
	It's like, he's always cropping up in a funny way.
	But I think maybe partly because one, he's extremely gullible and follows the leader.
	And number two, He's smart, but he has computer smarts, which I bet a bunch of the people giving him orders don't have.
	So he also seems to have really good negotiating skills, because he supposedly negotiated a bribe with Hillary Clinton.
	Then he goes and negotiates to get the Hunter Biden laptop, secreted stuff that was erased, unerased.
	Then he gets copies made, you know, and voila!
	The story that goes out to the public is, oh, he dropped it off, he was a druggie, and all this kind of thing.
	So, hello?
	Okay, it's a different story.
	By the way, where's the rest of the fucking laptop?
	Where's that?
	Okay, the White Hats have it, you know, the Deep State has it, this one has it, that one has it, right?
	Okay, so no mention of that, of course, right?
	So that gets dropped off the dialogue and that might be some of the most important information in the entire book.
	Is it perhaps the setup to eventually get to that documentation and that's why Assange is being let out right now too?
	Well, we talked about that.
	I don't want to go there.
	Let's don't lose the trail.
	So we're going to get back there because I've got more information on that.
	And please, I hope we can last long enough to do this.
	Very important.
	Let me just pause for a second.
	A few people are asking, hey, was this just about Patrick Byrne's book?
	No, the title says from Patrick Byrne to Julian Assange to Trump.
	We're setting the stage.
	We're getting to it.
	We're laying down the groundwork here.
	No worries.
	Keep going now on this, the laptop, the deliberate attempt to erase, the recovery of it.
	Okay, now I haven't gotten to my blockchain talk.
	Okay.
	So, and I, I, I know I'm beating a dead horse and I've said this in so many articles and I've said it on so many interviews, but I'll say it again here because it's so important to me anyway.
	And that is that prior to the 2020 election, those of us that follow people like Charlie Ward, like 107, like several other people on the on the circuit, knew and they told us in advance that the NSA Somehow I got this the NSA helped the White Hats to to set up the blockchain to track the votes for the election and they did it.
	Okay, so they said in advance they were going to do it and then sometime after the a short time after the election they said they did it.
	Okay, so since then
	Where Sidney was supposed to take that evidence into a court and everything was thrown out on standing and I've got a whole issue with that by the way and and our courts and that is another discussion I don't know if you have time for but the bottom line is that she was supposed to bring that evidence into court and she never did she knew it was never allowed to or however the machinations go on behind the scenes but that I have written an article it's called Tracers Checkmate.
	I read a book called Tracers and it's all about how blockchain traces you and there's a saying in the book which I always say I'm saying now and I want people to remember which is blockchain never forgets.
	Okay, can you just remember that?
	Because not only does that book lay out in a very clear-cut way how law enforcement went about tracking and tracing all the Bitcoin, I don't know what you want to call them, if they're criminals I'm not so sure, but you know the ones from the dark web.
	Who were, in some cases, not only using Bitcoin to do all their business, but also using it to launder money and do child trafficking and all that stuff, right?
	So that's in this book that I read, which I don't have the full title.
	I can give anyone the full title if they want it.
	It's excellent.
	I highly recommend it.
	And I sent it over to Juan to draw his attention to it.
	Maybe he's aware of it.
	Maybe he isn't.
	Maybe he ignored me as usual, but who knows?
	So what I have to say is that with that in mind, that means that not only did the NSA track our votes on blockchain, But they've had the evidence all along and this evidence is much more detailed and much better and is why they said with such authority and even Robert David Steele said it, they have it all.
	They have it all because it's on blockchain.
	Okay, but they never brought it forward.
	Trump could have stood on his doorstep in Mar-a-Lago and announced it.
	He didn't need to go on CNN, all right?
	So don't tell me that the news media wouldn't listen to you because that's bullshit.
	On top of it, you've got the courts rejecting all the cases, which shows you the courts are completely in on the steal.
	They're in on the Biden regime, which is a CCP MI6 operation in collusion with the Vatican, And, you know, the safe house in Germany, so the Germans were somehow involved.
	I mean, for God's sake, we have been invaded, and don't tell me that the Law of War manual said you... Okay, so, what they say, and if you've read it, if you bothered to pay attention, when Juan used to talk about it all the time, he doesn't talk about it anymore, but it says, You wait a year after you're invaded.
	You can wait a year.
	That's what they tell you to do.
	Okay.
	And to me, as far as I'm concerned, that's an illuminate naughty plant in the law of war manual.
	And that's republished under Trump's, you know, oversight.
	So tell me as a loyal American.
	Do you think our military should have stood down for a year?
	Do you think they even did?
	And the fact is, they didn't.
	And you know the proof of that?
	Is that they re-swore in Donald J. Trump as Commander-in-Chief in March.
	There was a ceremony that Juan talked about in March of 2021.
	After Biden had his funeral that was substituted for the inauguration, you know, and you know, Derek Johnston and a lot of other people can tell you all the signs were there.
	It was a funeral.
	He was killed.
	He was he was dead.
	He is dead.
	This guy that's playing an actor, and at one point Jim Carrey played the actor.
	I know I'm going all over the place here with all of this stuff, but I am so annoyed.
	At this point I'm just annoyed.
	In the past I was outraged.
	I'm just annoyed at this point.
	To say that blockchain is it.
	They have it.
	But in my article of Tracers, checkmate, I tell you the reason they have held back from actually pushing the issue and having Trump go on his front lawn to talk about it is the fact that they've been using it to catch criminals ever since, which is four years.
	So they didn't want it to come out in spades that Bitcoin was traceable and trackable and And so are all the other currencies, etc.
	So these games they play, a lot of the times what they're doing is trying to hide how much they surveil you.
	That's the bottom line.
	And both sides.
	Now, so I'm not going to disagree with you that the crypto, generally speaking, in my circles, at least, is understood to be a very highly efficient tracking tool or device that could be used for the deep state.
	I'm totally with you on that.
	Now, with respect to the nuclear football, I'm just going back to some of the arguments here.
	It was in the mainstream news.
	And guys, you can go do your research in and around Inauguration Day and a week or two afterwards, the mainstream news was bitching at the fact that the Trump military was not giving Biden the nuclear football.
	Right?
	So they were admitting that Biden did not receive those codes on Inauguration Day.
	We can talk about the death ceremony and all that, and I think Derek Johnson does a good job describing that.
	Now, going to the election, part of my concern with the book and the way it's laid out, although it does give, like I said, An overall view for just the general public who are still not sure how to debate this, just on a logical standpoint of how this election was stolen.
	In that respect, I think he does a good job.
	But overlooking the bigger arcing theme, and this is where I get worried and why I wasn't even sure I wanted to interview Patrick in the first place, was that I thought of this guy.
	So when Steve Pachanek was on InfoWars the night of the election or the day after, He suggested, and he started that storyline, that they had these non-radioactive isotopes on all of the ballots, and these were being tracked on the blockchain, and they had it all.
	And this was done.
	Hook, line, and sinker.
	Mark my word on it.
	And he made a bet with Alex Jones.
	Well, here we are four years later, that so far has not come up to the surface.
	Instead, we were treated to the Powell shitshow and the Giuliani shitshow, right?
	Let me finish.
	So this Giuliani shitshow, he explains in the book, he says, well, Giuliani's a good guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, but he's a drunk.
	And go read some of the testimony in a specific court case that I won't mention here as to why perhaps that avenue of looking at the falsified elections did not succeed.
	In my view, it did not succeed because, again, it felt like a limited hangout.
	And the bigger question when you and I were talking over the phone the other day is, well, why is that that perhaps Giuliani is drinking himself to a stupor at 9 a.m.
	in the morning?
	No, because the courts where the cases were brought, even the legitimate cases that didn't have anything to do with my blockchain chain theory and the thing about the isotopes, regular voting fraud also took place.
	So they were doubling down on their fraud to more than make sure that they can win against Trump.
	But it didn't work.
	Well, it worked in this 2024 or not for um, whatever 2020.
	Okay, it worked but prior to that in 2016 What happened was and I have whistleblowers on this stubbed subject and I said they were There was a man who got killed over it and I interviewed him and I've also written a thing about it on my website and I'm not going to say his name right now, but anyway
	He basically came to me before the election and told me that he was in the Navy and that they had, well he came not before the election, right after, in January I think it was, and disclosed to me that the Navy had known the election was being stolen by Hillary as usual.
	Just total normal business as usual.
	But this time they hired enough techies to take back the election.
	And this is true.
	This is real and I've had it verified and had discussions.
	I'm not going to talk about who with and all that kind of thing.
	But can you go back to report what I'm saying?
	We're getting from the blockchain, what Steve Pichenik was talking about on InfraWars, then these two different arcs, all of them mostly on branding.
	Yeah, but Patrick Byrne isn't talking about this stuff.
	He's not talking about this real stuff.
	He's gone back to founding the book.
	But that's what I'm saying about my concern about the book.
	And now Juan is out there saying, oh, maybe we need paper ballots, you know?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, let's reinvent the wheel while we're at it!
	You and I are on the same page.
	That's what I'm getting at.
	Here he's explaining why and he's relegating the election fraud to the non-standing court cases.
	And he goes as far as to say that Giuliani did a bad job to present information in such a way and to the right people for it to be adjudicated.
	And that's why we're in the shit show we are now.
	Okay, but let me give Leonie a moment here, okay?
	Because, and I told you this behind the scenes, he talks and talks about what a drunkard he is, but he never says why.
	You know, Nixon was attacked and attacked, and he had this huge thing, dark cloud over his head, and he used to walk around and mumble to himself, you know why?
	Because he knew that the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis had to do with aliens!
	And he'd been working behind the scenes in the deep state and with Truman and this and that.
	He was the guy who was interacting with aliens and he couldn't live with it, okay?
	And I just wonder, I have no idea what terrible tragedy has made a brilliant man like Giuliani Go to, you know, hit the bottle so seriously, but a person that does that has a reason.
	It's not just a knowledge of 9-11.
	Was that maybe, maybe he knows the real, you know, of course he probably knows where all the bodies are, are buried, et cetera, et cetera.
	And when you carry so many lies and you can't talk about them, you know, it destroys you.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	No, no.
	So I just want to be fair to the man, you know?
	No, absolutely.
	And that's what I'm getting at.
	And that was my concern in reading the book, the way they were describing this election fraud, again, to me as a limited hangout.
	And I think it's frustrating, and I did mention these concerns, that the audience is tired of having this twist, turn, twist, turn of this narrative for the election, as opposed to getting into the real crux of the matter.
	Just like we're tired of talking about Antarctica when we should be having a bigger conversation about E.T.
	and how if we're going to extricate ourselves from this problem on this planet, we can't do it without having that overall conversation.
	And that's something that's still, to this day, completely obfuscated.
	And perhaps why some of these characters we see on the scene are drunk and alcoholics and looking at escapism in order to, you know, Fixed your cognitive dissonance after understanding this crazy information.
	I think that's the hard part.
	And to some extent, our audience is suffering with that as well.
	You know, things are getting crazier by the day.
	We're entering this world of hyper-novelty.
	If you look at what the remote viewers, the Calgary & Company Future Forecasting Group, are looking at, they were looking at Cliff High's target.
	They also saw some crazy stuff coming up around the corner on July 15th, perhaps having to do with aliens again.
	So it's in our field here, and we're going to have to deal with it as humans if we are going to become adults about this situation.
	Yes, we're going into the future, and by the way, the future is coming a lot faster than they would like.
	And by the way, I glanced at it, I have no idea if it's complete bullshit, but there's some headline or something out there right this second saying that Iran has been invaded by aliens.
	Just saying.
	So I'm not trying to sound like a crazy.
	It's just a headline I saw.
	It could be BS, but the case in point is much more real and has to do with who's going to win the monetary system game.
	That's afoot.
	And this has to do with 107 who, you know, Went to London.
	City of London, anyone?
	Hello?
	And so on.
	You know, the new dollar that they want to roll out, that the dollar is not going to disappear, that the dollar is just going to be backed by, you know, gold and silver and blah, blah, blah.
	Hold on.
	Before you go too far there, I do want to have your thoughts on that.
	You and I kind of talked about it.
	Let me preface that too.
	So let's move over.
	I guess we're out of the book here for now.
	We're going to look at Assange also here.
	Okay, did we get to all of that?
	Yeah, and so I have a piece of information about Assange.
	Do you want to lead off with that or you want me to tell you later?
	No, Assange is coming up.
	I want to go into the track you're just talking about now, the financial system.
	So I said this in the show the other day, people are waking up, and I think you and I had this conversation on the last time you were here, People are waking up in droves about COVID.
	And in the last couple of weeks, it's been absolutely horrible for the COVID narrative.
	Fauci's testimony was absolutely atrocious.
	The Ninth Circuit Court ruled that the vaccine was not in fact a vaccine, opening up a door now for lawsuits and liability to these manufacturers.
	And now I think as of today, we have five different states that are suing Pfizer for just that, deceiving the public.
	So that whole thing is coming apart now really quick.
	And I think people are starting to realize that even the most staunch normies here are starting to wake up to that.
	Thank God.
	But yes, right?
	There are still people wearing masks in their car alone.
	I saw that.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, I'm with you on that.
	But bear with me here, too.
	Now, I want your thoughts on this.
	So those people who are just waking up, and they're saying, yeah, that's all wrong, and holy fuck, blah, blah, blah, they get angry and all that, but then they get to the, but JC, but why?
	Why is that happening?
	How could this be coordinated throughout the whole planet, right?
	And my take on that, the small, bite-sized version that I think they can handle is, Well, you live on a slave farm.
	There's a slave control mechanism, okay?
	Part of that slave control mechanism is the financial system.
	Right now, we have slaves that are waking up, they're jumping the fence, they're getting out of control, and the masters are losing control.
	They need to install a new slavery mechanism.
	Big part of that is the financial system.
	COVID was one of the doorways to that, meaning that if you accept the vaccine, you accept the mask, you accept the digital ID, you accept the digital passport, you were all these steps a little bit closer to then accepting the CBDC, what you were calling the track and trace, and basically you're a better slave from now on.
	That is partly the why.
	But to put it simple for those people waking up, that's what I suggest to them.
	And I'm not talking about ETs yet.
	It's too complicated to get into that.
	But that I think they can buy.
	Oh, yeah, that kind of makes sense.
	And the part about, oh, there's too many of us and we're jumping the fence.
	Well, that's the calling part.
	That's why they wanted to kill a bunch of people.
	And that explains the The big die-off that's coming and that's being projected now, still in many researchers' field.
	What do you say about that, the why?
	For the people who are watching this too, they're waking up, they're first newbies who are watching your show.
	Gosh, it would not help them if they're just waking up and watching Kerry and JC talk tonight.
	But what's the why?
	Does it have to do with that money system?
	And let's get into that, Kerry.
	Well, it's a lot.
	It's a lot.
	The bottom line, if I was going to take the COVID thing, I've talked about it numerous times.
	I did a huge amount of investigation.
	I don't even like health care.
	I don't go to doctors.
	I hated having to do this, but I had no choice as a journalist.
	I had to get into it so I did and I interviewed tons of doctors that's when I got thrown off YouTube because they didn't like the fact that I went from aliens to doctors and that was not acceptable so then they threw me off YouTube.
	All right so the bottom line is that COVID is a transhuman agenda.
	It's not just kill them all, okay?
	And that's very important to know.
	They want a Humanity 3.0 and I want to go back to the Ukraine situation and the Biolabs and what is going on there and the games they play over that, which is Hillary
	Hunter Biden, arguably, and even probably Biden, which is they're all they all think they're angels because they are working to create a Humanity 3.0 because they don't have any faith in our current biological system, our bodies.
	And so they want to bring in, you know, Eternal life and they want to bring in super soldier capabilities and they want to create a trans human and this thing called Hold on and to add to that they also want a more docile and compliant.
	Yes, according to Captain Mark Richards, one of my top whistleblowers of passive super soldiers.
	That's what they want.
	And this is widely known by people that have worked in the deep, you know, secret space program and various things.
	So they think that everything that they do can be sort of excused by the idea that they want a human that can go interplanetary, that can go in, you know, interdimensional, that can Colonize and fight all the big bad aliens out there, of which there really are some, and yes, there are good ones, okay?
	But actually, the good ones, like the Pleiadians, have recruited us to help fight the bad ones.
	So, you know, it's kind of an interesting twist, huh?
	I was asking you for the definition for the noise, or just waking up, but you're going really woozy!
	I'm tracking, most of our audience is tracking.
	It's gotten, well I'm, but I'm making it simple, you know, it's pretty simple, yeah, what I'm saying?
	So, you know, these people watch movies.
	They watch television.
	You know, they know about the super soldier thing.
	You know, they've watched all the famous, you know, Bourne Affair and all that stuff.
	You know, they get it.
	I'm that crazy anymore, Carrie.
	For most people, they're like, fuck, we've seen, you know.
	I mean, kids know.
	Kids get it.
	I don't think there's any kids watching this getting, you know, shocked.
	All my kids watch the show.
	They know.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you for that.
	We were just adding to that conversation.
	I think it's important, too, for people to maybe go back and listen to that, too, because they're going to be faced with this question as their friends and neighbors and families are also waking up.
	They're going to say, but why?
	And it's important to have the conversation, as ridiculous as it may sound, because if we don't have it, then we're relegated to all these limited hangouts where we're probably going to get duped again because we're not looking at the big picture.
	And that's why Carrie and I want to have this conversation with you guys.
	I love the conversation.
	Thank you, Carrie.
	It's like, this is amazing.
	Okay.
	Can I just say homo bore genesis so that I can get that off?
	I want, you know, there is already a court case and maybe there's several by now, but it emerged like a year or two ago and they, the court went to the trouble to supposedly label all the humans that are vaxxed as homo bore genesis and they no longer have any human rights because they're not all together human anymore.
	So, there is court cases coming up on that subject, alright?
	So, what I'm saying is not so outlandish if it's being tried in a court.
	And they did make a word for it, or several words, which is Homo Borg Genesis, which means that you are attached to the Borg AI.
	And you are taking orders from the Borg AI.
	And if the Borg AI decides that you're going to die that day and sends a frequency or a particle beam or whatever the hell they decide to send, you're going to keel over and die.
	So that's why you are a liability.
	And by the way, those people are flying our planes and we have pilots that are dropping dead on the scene in just such a way, as well as athletes and so on and so forth.
	So this is, you know, but again, if you don't understand your opponent, your enemy, which is this Illuminati, dark, New World Order, you know, Luciferian agenda, which has to do with taking over humanity and taking over the Earth, It's not for them, it's for the greys!
	They want to keep their investment up.
	to watch movies on how to save the environment.
	It's not for them.
	It's for the greys.
	You know, they want to keep their investment up.
	They want it to be worth something when we're done with it.
	So this is what's going on.
	I mean, people have got to stop being so naive.
	They've got to wake up.
	And this is why time is wasting, and why I try to say this to Juan over and over and over again, and I actually accuse him.
	I say, are you really this dumb?
	Or do you simply not realize what we're facing in the future?
	Because if you don't, and if you really are that dumb, I'm shocked.
	Because as far as I know, John F. Kennedy Jr.
	would not be this stupid.
	You have a sci-fi library, you say, that could rival many, and that tells me right then and there that you're totally aware of stuff that I'm talking about, and that you're trying to act dumb, you're trying to like to act like the good old boy that came from, I don't know, down under somewhere or wherever, and who, meaning Texas, and you know, and He doesn't know any better and is just completely enraptured with the Bible.
	I don't think for a second that 107 is dumb.
	On the question of ET, you can't have gotten to this position.
	I think it's a bridge too far for a lot of people right now.
	Or at least that would be his contention and that's why they're not getting into that.
	I don't give a shit.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You can handle the truth.
	Let me say it here.
	Humans You are all hybrids.
	You all have an ET background.
	Your DNA is ET.
	You can handle the truth.
	You remember if somebody triggers it and more and more are waking up in that regard as well.
	For sure.
	For sure.
	And to add to that, too, this whole court case about the Borg and us not being human, there's more and more research coming out now and evidence coming out now that although they told us that it was just mRNA, that they weren't tweaking our DNA, now we're saying, oh, no, actually, there was also DNA in the shot and a whole bunch of other things in there.
	You know, I did many shows on this in the past that suggest that, yes, DNA has been modified and that humans who have this and perhaps the offspring are also no longer What you would call today, or what God had called, humans.
	And that's a conversation we need to have.
	Human is a man of many colors.
	Human is a hybrid race.
	Get this through your head.
	And, you know, I know that the religious people don't want to believe it.
	I get that.
	But the bottom line is, whether you like it or not, we've been invaded.
	This is not the first invasion, okay?
	So the Biden-CCP invasion of our government And the takeover of the United States and the White Hats who let it go on, even though behind the scenes they're trying to control certain aspects, like making Trump CIC, is also letting this happen.
	They think they need to wake people up and it's going to work.
	I am skeptical of that approach, but nonetheless, it's waking some people up.
	It's where we're at right now, and We're seeing, and I'm being cautiously optimistic, we're seeing a huge wave of people waking up.
	And day by day by day, we're seeing the controllers lose ground.
	We're seeing it in the mainstream news.
	We're seeing it in politics.
	We're seeing it in religion.
	We're seeing it on the narrative of COVID and all that stuff.
	So there seems to be a momentum on our side.
	In my view, it's not fast enough.
	And I think in your view, it's absolutely not fast enough.
	Okay, let's get into this Assange story.
	So he was just released the other day, so they say.
	There's a lot behind that also.
	And there are people questioning whether or not there would be a gag order that came with this particular plea deal.
	Now, whether or not he would start spilling the beans, rehashing some of the old stories, or perhaps, in one of the new stories today, even get into what was disclosed here in one of the plea deals as undisclosed evidence that he might still have, or unpublished evidence that he might still have in his possession, or in WikiLeaks' possession, or custody, or control.
	So, read that part on the screen there, too.
	So that's what I want to get with that here, too.
	The timing of this release, in your view, people are suggesting here that in order to move an elephant, the magician has to wait for the perfect timing here to bring a distraction to the fore.
	I was told this earlier this week, and I had a conversation about that.
	Why now, is the big question with Assange.
	Let me correct a couple things.
	So one thing is, and a lot of people heard this, that Wikileaks had quickly released everything, okay?
	That right after he made that deal in court, WikiLeaks released everything, probably on his orders.
	And then, supposedly it was all deleted, except that Kim Dotcom, or what, I mean, is that his name?
	Dotcom?
	Yeah, it's all over the internet.
	He's already said that he has copies.
	He's made it freely available via Twitter for you to download everything.
	Including everything the DNC thinks they don't have online anymore.
	And of course the White Hats have it.
	Of course the NSA, Blockchain, Hello have it.
	And have had it for months, years, whatever.
	And, you know, so you can imagine that he had quite a bit to make a deal with.
	Mm-hmm.
	He was released.
	And I think I'm at liberty to say this thing that it's maybe on the website right now.
	But if you go to buy me a coffee slash truther, you go to the real police chief's website.
	So there's a fake one out there.
	Make sure you go to the right one.
	And he is the former police chief of Colorado, one of the cities or whatever it is that they govern as or whatever they do.
	He is a really good guy.
	I've interviewed him.
	You can listen to my interview and all the questions I throw at him and he really handles it very well.
	He's working behind the scenes with Alex Collier and other whistleblowers and he came forward tonight to say Something that I already suspected, and maybe you did, that that's not really Assange, that he was actually released back in March, I think he said, and maybe it's this year, maybe it's last year, but anyway, he already made a deal.
	He's already been released.
	In the data, we had five months ago already.
	That's how far the release would have been.
	And that he's, that is an actor wearing a mask, the guy who you see getting on the plane and so on and so forth.
	Right, right.
	I'm with you.
	And just to share this again, Kim.com, yes, they have the whole thing.
	So on one hand, they're telling you, don't look at the DNC stuff, delete it.
	By saying that, it's like reverse psychology.
	Everybody wants to go look at it now.
	So it does seem like a white hat.
	It's not a coincidence, is it?
	Because, again, I want to look at the fact that, and he said, by the way, let me not forget this part, he said that this release in the public domain is something the Biden administration is going to milk to try to get votes.
	That he's somehow interested in truth, okay, or some bullshit.
	At least that's the way the real police chief is putting it.
	I don't think such a thing would float for five seconds, but let them do their game.
	The thing is that This is no accident going back to back, as you can appreciate.
	So it serves the White Hats in a way that will never serve the dark side, which is the evidence that they need to have out there anyway.
	They needed this evidence to be at hand when and if they ever do the EBS, right?
	Yeah.
	And they release any information they need, the evidence to Hillary with her laptop, I'm not her laptop, but her emails from her.
	The email server, yeah.
	And, you know, that she was following orders, by the way, she's following orders from her superiors, which is, you know, before he died, Bush Sr.
	and God knows who now.
	I mean, These people, a lot of them, they don't operate on their own.
	They are all patsies.
	Captured.
	Right down the line.
	They're all captured.
	Yeah, I'm with you.
	So going back to that, if you follow that theory... So now the evidence, look at all the evidence.
	The McCain, the McAfee, there's so much evidence in these emails and in the WikiLeaks stuff that in a sense, see, one of the things that the White Hats don't want you to do is to look at them and Trump for being the source of all the evidence, right?
	And I have put a couple quotes in.
	I don't know if it made it to your chat because I don't see the chat.
	I have them on the screen if you want to bring it up.
	I just want to add this part here too, like the Podesta stuff, the pedophilia, the trafficking, that too is in WikiLeaks.
	The emails have never been disputed.
	So okay, I have the quotes.
	Let me just bring that up because I did do a cut and paste for you earlier.
	So I have the three quotes here.
	I'll bring up all three because I took a screenshot here.
	Go ahead, Carrie.
	Which one do you want to share?
	And how does it work?
	Well, all of them.
	I mean, you know, I just want to say here that they say they have, and Juan actually said this, they have so many whistleblowers right now behind the scenes trying to bring forward their evidence and their, you know, which of course is going to happen sooner or later.
	By the way, Hello, Project Camelot is here anytime you want to disclose anything, you know.
	But of course, they don't feel they can be protected by me.
	I don't have a military on your orders.
	They can't control you and you're not going to play a game with the information.
	That's probably why it's coming to you.
	But I understand.
	So to answer to why now, they need another venue, another credible source, what is It's not perceived to be coming from the Trump camp because if you listen to the interview between Dr. Phil and Mr. Trump, Dr. Phil asked him six times, are you going to be the revengeful president?
	Are you going to put all these people in jail?
	Right?
	So they're worried about that particular aspect and they don't want to paint Trump as that guy.
	So they're looking for these different avenues to still be able to bring this information.
	So that's part of the why now is what I'm getting here from the conversation.
	Yes, but also behind the scenes, they're saying that Trump has made a deal such that they're going to let, that the Illuminati, instead of killing him, are going to use him.
	And I, okay, so this is back channel information.
	You don't have to believe me, but I have very high level financial sources.
	And they're telling me that across the board, And this was even published in the World Economic Forum right around the time when they had their last meeting, that they take it as a fait accompli that Trump is going to be our president, okay?
	Even though he's actually our president behind the scenes.
	They are not standing in the way of that because they have decided they can control him.
	That's what they're saying.
	These people have arrogance beyond belief.
	They always are arrogant.
	And this is what my sources are telling me.
	They tell it with a straight face.
	That's how they view the world.
	And as far as they're concerned, nothing can happen on this planet unless they control it.
	So they'll make a deal.
	Whether that's true or it's not true, how much the White Hats have military sort of super, you know, whether they can supersede the whatever White Hat, you know, I mean whatever diabolical Rothschild, Luciferian, satanic, Khazarian mafia, blah blah blah, you know, these people will go to all lengths
	to control and to run and by the way they don't mind running things from behind the scenes they were secret once they could go back to being secret and you can think you've won But you haven't, because they're still back there.
	So we, you know, people need to be more vigilant and less sort of airy-fairy about the future.
	Even if it appears we've won, I'm going to be right there reminding everyone, if there are signs and symbols, that we know they're still out there.
	Because they're backed by alien races, negative aliens.
	And you know, until humanity can take that on board, You know, I guess I'm just speaking to the wind, but it's important.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Now, going back to that plea deal that includes the deletion of the yet-undisclosed information, I wanted to go a little bit deeper on that.
	Do you have a feel, perhaps with either your self-intuition, some of the stuff you've read, or some of your past whistleblowers, on what could be that cache of the undisclosed stuff?
	In some cases, people are talking about Uh, McAfee having some backdoor access with the, you know, with his, um, um, how do you call it?
	There was a.
	Programs to virus antivirus programs for computers on some cases people are saying Stuff has never come out and as far as I know now I don't know how much of the McAfee stuff is is part of the WikiLeaks disclosures That's what I'm asking it people are suggesting that could be yet the undisclosed.
	Well, it is because the the apartment building in Florida that was taken down all on 9-11 style The two towers near Ivanka's apartment, apparently.
	And at the same time, I think they tried to kidnap Barron.
	So that was a big threat.
	The McAfee stuff is major because it also implicates, it's an extension of the Epstein-Honeypot story and all the various, you know, really our Congress, I mean, 90% of our Congress is, are traitors, pedophiles, and, you know, implicated in honeypot schemes, to say the least.
	And that's only, you know, some of it.
	There's a lot more to it.
	I'm with you.
	I just brought up one of these quotes here.
	When all this finally exposed, 98% of Washington will fall, Julian Assange says.
	So yeah, I'm with you.
	So perhaps, okay, the McAfee stuff, is there, Well, there's another quote in here.
	I'm looking for it on my slide deck, but he was also talking about why the Epstein-Lias wasn't going to be exposed ever, because it would remove the power from the FBI, CIA, and all these intelligence agencies, and how they're using that to bribe these politicians and to control them.
	And this is why we wouldn't see it.
	That's another quote from Assange.
	I'm looking for it on my deck.
	Rumors, and I want to ask you about this here too, that perhaps DeSantis would be the first one to disclose that list, and that could be in July.
	Have you heard those rumors?
	And how does that perhaps tie into the why now, Kerry?
	No, I haven't heard a rumor about DeSantis being the point person on that.
	But I can say that, you know, if you look at Patrick, I mean, I think we should pull back a little bit and look at the topic here, because Patrick Byrne's book is being pushed heavily by 107.
	He is a white hat.
	The reason they're pushing it now, you know, Patrick Byrne has been hanging about on the scene And trying to talk to people for quite some time.
	So, finally he wrote this book.
	Maybe he was urged to do so.
	Maybe he got help.
	Maybe he didn't.
	Whatever.
	But it's coming out at an opportune moment, along with the Julian Assange WikiLeaks stuff.
	You see how you gotta see these things?
	Don't see things isolated.
	See them as an ongoing story.
	It's a thread.
	Always.
	And these are linked.
	These are linked.
	And so what happens is, Again, it's a disclosure on a white hat level, and I would say that Patrick Byrne's book fits the ticket perfectly for them right now, okay?
	It's just superficial enough so that people don't look too far under the surface to the really dirty laundry, right?
	The real story, which we're kind of disclosing here tonight, and so on.
	Now, I hope But it does satiate part of the appetite.
	Okay, but Patrick Byrne will watch this, will realize that he knows a lot more than he's saying, and will someday come forward and, without getting killed, you know, spill a lot more.
	That was my understanding.
	My understanding was that this book was a one-two punch, and that this book was just a set-up to bring him on the stage, to have this conversation, to get some street cred, I guess, in some of these interviews, to then come to the second punch.
	What might you think that second punch is?
	And that's why, when we said earlier, is he just naive, or is he just being very strategic in a very well-crafted, tightly knit, limited hangout disclosure right now, only to pounce at the right moment here for the coup de grace?
	If that's the case, and that's what he's doing... Let me preface by saying that one of the approaches of the White Hats, and Juan in particular, is that
	Part of the reason they want to hold the reins and slow you down is because they are always concerned about a couple constituencies, one of which is the Israeli lobby, the other one is the Christian right lobby, and the other one that's sort of more amorphous is the newbies.
	And so what they don't want to do is alienate them from, one, voting, and from, two, Supporting Trump, you know, they they want to keep their their their their I don't know, they're cut of the pie as intact as possible as they disclose, okay?
	So it's a fine line for them and it's a balancing act.
	I wouldn't want to shoot myself in the head if I had that job because that's too complicated.
	I know that I am a chink in their armor, so to speak.
	I don't know if they planned for me.
	Sometimes I think they didn't, but you know, bottom line is that I think I'm not the only person who's seen through the mask, you know, and who's willing to disclose.
	I think some people are hired to try to take me down.
	To badmouth me on purpose, to do weird things, like I just got interviewed by this guy, Scotty Sachs.
	I swear he's a CIA agent.
	I'll just say it here because his questions are way better.
	Sort of figured out ahead of time type of thing.
	I don't think he put all that much effort into it, but I do think he was given those questions and he knows how to deliver a good question.
	And it ended up to be more like an interrogation than an interview.
	And if you don't know that, well, then you don't know when I interview.
	And you know what they did?
	They lost the footage so far.
	So far, they put it out, it's just audio, right?
	With a picture of me, which is literally at least 20 years old, and I don't even know where it came from, it's so old.
	And you really have to try, you know, because I'm on the air every week.
	I have stuff on my website, like tons and thousands and thousands of stuff, and you go to all that trouble.
	To put out this picture of me from 20 years ago?
	What's the matter with your brain?
	And according to him, the story is that I told him, I said, cause his editor said he put out a video.
	So then I said, could you please send me the video?
	And it appeared on before it's news as well.
	Well, it's not a video at all.
	It is two still photos and that does not a video make.
	So I told him your editor is lying to you.
	You better fire him.
	So he did.
	And supposedly, the story goes, don't believe it, but the story goes, that they're going to release the actual video that I took part in.
	Like, you know we're doing a video right now?
	If you were to release this with an old picture of me and just an audio, what would you want?
	You would want no one to pay attention.
	Right?
	Because people like to see people.
	They want to see people when they're talking.
	They want to see their faces.
	They want to see expressions.
	You know, that kind of thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The body language, Kerry.
	Okay, let me bring up two things here.
	I found this article, so the reason the FBI wouldn't release the obscene client list, this was the quote from Assange, if you guys want to take a snapshot of that.
	You just mentioned Israel here too, the Israel lobby.
	This was interesting also here, forget Russia, the real threat to America comes from Israel, and the Israeli lobby says Julian Assange, also here.
	Let's look at that.
	So Israel's been in a battle with Hamas since October 7th of last year.
	It appears that that is being scaled back, dwindled down a little bit here in order to get into the next phase, which looks like their attack on Hezbollah in Lebanon.
	So we're seeing now reports of military equipment setting stage for that, the USS Fitzgerald now.
	On the coast as well.
	Where does that tie in right now to this escalation of war in the Middle East?
	Again, with the elections that are coming up and the Assange disclosure about all wars being banker wars, all wars being perpetuated and pushed on the public by the lying media.
	He's been quoted saying this all the time.
	And now, of course, Israel, being what appears for most of the people now, months later, being the aggressor and not the victim, as they were trying to portray so hard in December with all of these bots and all the money they were putting in that particular propaganda.
	How does that tie in right now, Kerry?
	Well, you know, let me just at least say one thing about Lebanon.
	You know, Lebanon used to be a really beautiful place before years and years of attacks and destruction.
	So, that's kind of interesting.
	Not sure why that is.
	They have to focus on Lebanon so much.
	And I don't think it's because it's the home of Hezbollah, right?
	Maybe there's something going on with weaponry and what one side has versus what the other, and they need to get at it.
	And so demolishing Ramallah and killing all the Palestinians isn't good enough, now they have to escalate.
	And maybe this is just a step closer to going mano-a-mano with Iran, which is insanity.
	So, I think in a certain sense it's keeping the war going, making them the aggressor for a purpose, and getting a step closer to Iran to wrestle those feathers.
	I think there's simultaneously this Cuban Missile Crisis thing is not over and the fact that China and Russia are in cahoots to put weaponry quote-unquote weaponry which is not just nukes okay it's going to be a lot more than that and arguably there's an underground base run by aliens under Cuba that Nixon way back when was very concerned about And that has never been demolished.
	And so there's something afoot with that.
	And they are very close to our country.
	Now that gets back to the question you asked me a ways ago, which had to do with how they started the Ukrainian war that had a lot more to do with NATO baiting the Tiger and putting their their missiles In their backyard.
	200 miles away from the Russian border, which any country should be in arms against.
	And so that was a bridge too far.
	So Putin stepped up.
	But I also think that attacking the biolabs and basically stealing all the technology that they have created down there to create again a Humanity 3.0 using slobs, that the piece that had to do with COVID was another portion.
	But you've got to remember it's a big picture and they've always got layers to this.
	Putin was doing his job in demolishing the surrounding infrastructure around those labs.
	I happen to think that the tech, that what was on the computers, you know, that the scientists had created, actually was swooped into a maglev train and brought back into the United States.
	But there may have been a, you know, a sort of A deal done with Putin so that the Russians got some of that tech and we got some of it type of thing.
	So you got to keep in mind that this has been going on.
	And then in Taiwan, supposedly there's some similar thing going on underground.
	And a lot of what's going on in Taiwan, of course, has to do with their dominance with the chip industry.
	And I believe, and this is just a remote viewing I did a while ago, so I may be wrong, but I can say that I think that the whole thing to do with Taiwan is underground.
	And what they're dealing with is the technology behind the ship, the chip, and also basically taking the power away, the power center away from Taiwan and moving Chinese in place.
	So it's kind of like a changing of the guard.
	They want to, they want to control, they have to control Taiwan.
	And of course our ships off the coast there is a perfect example of what they're doing to us now with the Cuban Missile Crisis and all the subs that we're seeing around Florida and so on and so forth.
	Both sides are baiting the other.
	Both sides are saying, look, you do this to us, we're going to do this to you.
	And by the way, I just want to footnote, I don't know if you want to deal with it, but we have not covered the financial thing sufficiently, of course.
	And I know you talk about this all the time on your shows and whatnot, but I have to say that this taking down of the dollar The BRICS that everyone thinks are so wonderful.
	Sad to say, I think the whole BRICS idea, and it's been written about, is actually English.
	It's a British plot, and they are controlling the BRICS.
	And Putin is being baited to get on the BRICS side and used.
	He's being used.
	And so one thing that I wrote about, one of my commentaries in my article that I was writing about Burns book is that Burns at no time talks about the fact that both the United States and Putin are being used as pawns by a much
	A more elevated sort of group of beings, not just aliens, but also humans, who have the right to issue, who are trying to run this game, who are trying to bait Russia against us, and using both parties in this game of war.
	And where it ends, I don't know.
	I really hope cooler minds prevail.
	Let me add to that on the financial front here too.
	I spoke about this last week.
	This was a de-dollarization bombshell.
	You guys can find the article on Sputnik.
	but the coming BRICS Plus decentralized money monetary ecosystem.
	Here, they're finally talking about introducing this new currency.
	There were rumors about it.
	We've been tracking this for almost two years now, but they're going to be backing this, what they call the unit, with 40% gold and 60% of the currencies within the BRICS basket.
	And apparently, this is to be launched in September.
	So the why now obviously ties into what you're saying.
	The financial system is a big part of that, and it's important to understand what's happening.
	Now, to your credit too, I mean, we've talked about some of the infiltration in the BRICS now, going back five, ten years already, and how, again, it's always more complicated than it looks, and maybe not for this show.
	We'd have to get into another two-hour show.
	I have a piece of information, though, to put in here, okay?
	And I might have mentioned to you, I don't know if I did, offline.
	I'm not at liberty to say a lot about it, but I can say this much.
	Behind the scenes, a gigantic deal has taken place.
	The Illuminati, in essence, has now decided, interestingly, to back the United States after all this time of trying to take us down.
	And they have given us a huge influx of money, so large that we are no longer in debt, that we're swimming in money, and maybe we already were because Certain parties have hinted that as well, that a lot of this, oh, we're in debt and the whole thing that's motivating so much in the United States and so many people believing it, it's not true.
	It's a farce.
	But it's definitely a farce if this thing that I know about, which has to do with this huge influx of money, which is way beyond anything anyone can conceive of.
	A deal has been done, in other words.
	And I was told that the debt clock All of its own accord, supposedly, if the information I have is right, a month ago reset itself.
	It's set to zero, yeah.
	Some people are suggesting it was just a glitch or a comm.
	Yeah, and that actually coincides with this information I have.
	That again, they have now Turned all their money over to us because, and think about this intelligently, maybe they found out that the aliens backing the Chinese are no one they want to do business with on this planet.
	Maybe that's what they found out.
	Yeah.
	Just throwing it out.
	You're blowing the minds of the normies, Carrie.
	One at a time.
	I love it.
	One at a time.
	Wow.
	Yes, there's 8,000 or so on Rumble and over 2,000 here on Twitter.
	So over 10,000 live watching us.
	Wow.
	Thank you so much, everyone.
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	A lot of great comments there.
	I wanted to redirect you on the Cube, I think, a little bit here.
	We have a few minutes left.
	We're almost at the two-hour mark.
	I saw this interview Maybe two weeks ago about this guy here, Admiral Tim Gelludet.
	I'm not sure if you've seen him, but he's making the rounds.
	He's a retired admiral or rear admiral, and he's bringing a lot of credibility to the underwater scene as it pertains to ETs.
	And so I'm trying to get him on the War Correspondence Show to have some questions about that.
	But mainly my question was about Cuba, and it's interesting you just brought it up.
	This underwater base.
	You remember the Art Bell Show?
	There was a nurse that called in once, and she was describing how she was working at Guantanamo, and that on the weekends they had these barbecue parties with some of the Navy SEALs there, and that the Navy SEALs were rambunctious, having fun, and maybe trying to get in her pants and saying all these crazy stories.
	At least that's what she was saying on the Art Bell Show.
	And then a little bit later on, this Canadian scientist came out with this side-scan sonar and had discovered what appeared to be pyramidal structures in a city off the coast of Cuba.
	And you talked about the quarantine of Cuba, the Cuban Missile Crisis, how it had to do with ETs, something underwater or under the surface.
	And what was interesting is a number of years later, this same nurse had said that those divers
	We're actually on there and his story was that Something here was acting up that there was technology That there was energy and that they were following through on that and that was really really behind all of this embargo of that area Yeah Absolutely, so and again guys you can go watch those old our Bell shows I'm trying to recall that from memory for you guys, but now going back to what we're seeing now is
	Again, bringing in the ET context and what's happening with the chasing of these nuclear subs, these Russian nuclear subs off the coast of Florida.
	Where are we in your mind?
	Do we have more of these whistleblowers now suggesting that we might get this information coming out that there's a tit for tat or that there's a Maybe a different control faction at play here?
	In the remote viewers, and let me just add this part here too, and I think it was last month, they suggested that maybe there was another force in the solar system recently that might be causing havoc in the sense that they're leveling out the playing fields of the battle that Well, as I said, there's an underground base there that I'm being shown.
	Have you heard that?
	And how does that tie into perhaps why now suddenly we're looking at Cuba again?
	Is there some kind of connection there that we need to know about?
	Kerry?
	Well, as I said, there's an underground base there that I'm being shown.
	I can say that this story about another group of ETs incoming has been floating around, at least through my whistleblowers, for a while.
	Arguably what I've referred to as the Spider Beings, for one, being in touch with the Chinese, another having to do with maybe another group, yet another group, I don't know which one.
	I think that there's a lot in this game, and the Antarctica piece, by the way, Is also a case in point and I think we did we might have done a show on it and we've talked about some of this stuff and I've just talked about it on the last show.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so I don't need to go over that again, but I do want to say, you know, that of course Juan knows a tremendous amount more than he's saying, and that what went on in Antarctica really did appear to be humans getting their marching orders or some such thing, and that needs to be delved in further, obviously.
	I asked him that question four times, by the way, when he was on that three-hour show, and he kind of suggested that, yes, a different direction might have been given, a new timeline might have been given, and that was setting the stage for a lot of the things and the changing of the theater of war that we're seeing now happening.
	Well, some people might say that Juan has suddenly softened a bit on the ET question since he went to Antarctica. - Mm-hmm.
	Some people might have seen him being a little more willing.
	I mean, in the past, he's been completely unwilling, but before that, when he was on with the Douglas Hagman, or what their names is?
	Hagman and Hagman.
	He used to talk about ETs, okay?
	Assuming that's Juan and not Wayne Willett.
	I think back in those days it probably was Juan.
	I think all the time he's on the air it's Juan.
	He was going through the pseudonym W the Insider back then.
	Yes, but I've met Wayne Willett, okay?
	Completely different personality than John.
	So you can really tell by the way they talk.
	I agree with you, too.
	I thought he was... I was surprised that he went as far as he did on this interview, this three-hour marathon on the ET stuff.
	Yeah, just a slight.
	I'm not saying, you know, just a slight softening.
	Yeah, but it's noticeable for people like you and me who are very much interested in this conversation.
	It was a departure from, oh, no, that's all silliness.
	There's nothing down there.
	We just need to talk about these rogue Nazis in Antarctica.
	And by the way, you know, those Bible thumpers are really in for a big surprise.
	Dude, that's coming up in the web bot in a big way.
	That's coming up.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	The destruction of these religions.
	Thank God.
	Oh my God.
	Yeah.
	I don't wish that on people who are attached to all of that, but yeah, we had the biggest flak, Kerry, when we did the series on angels and the great deception.
	We were looking at the Elohim and some of the decodes from Mauro Biglino and his book, The Naked Bible.
	I have it here, but that's Probably the episodes where we got the most flack, and mostly from those communities.
	But at the same time, huge ratings and people thanked us for at least being brave enough to have that conversation.
	These are sacred cows, so to speak, and it's hard to get into that territory.
	But hey, we gotta do what we gotta do here on Beyond Mystic.
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	Well, you can subscribe to my website and become a member.
	You can also subscribe to my sub-stack that I started a few months ago when they kept taking my site down and I had nowhere to really write articles.
	It's not so much got videos, it's got articles.
	The videos are still on my website and they're on Rumble.
	So all the most recent stuff.
	And then the not so recent stuff is that came over from YouTube, went to Odyssey.
	So all the links are at the top of my web page on the front page.
	Of all my social media and where you can find everything so I also have an old bit shoot channel that has hundreds of videos I mean I have and I have a youtube channel that I started recently that already has a strike, but Well, they gave me a warning and then they gave me a strike, um that the person it's strange because the person is got um It's like, what do you call it?
	C60.
	So it's a perfectly fine thing, you know, product.
	And they said it was violating their community standards, which is what they always say, which is complete bullshit.
	Right.
	So, yeah, so I just want to say that The bottom line is I just want one last thing about standing.
	It's so important because in the courts they have this rule and you can research it if you're into like lawyer stuff and you can see that they're throwing everything out on standing and just recently Biden won another censorship, I don't know, fight Because he threw out the states that were challenging him, and I put it on my telegram, on standing.
	And standing means that you're not involved, that it's not going to hurt you, it's not going to affect you.
	And let me ask you, everyone who's listening to this, is something to do with our elections going one way or another not going to hurt you?
	You know, really?
	Are you an American or aren't you?
	I mean, the fact that they can throw that in your face, and it's so logically illogical, is insane!
	It's insane!
	It's basically Hitler-era censorship.
	That's what we're talking about.
	It's very Orwellian, Kerry.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Here's the article you guys are looking for.
	This is what Kerry is talking about now.
	Kerry, before we go, first of all, and also you guys in the chat too, I want to take a pulse where you guys are watching from.
	So if you want to just type in the city, I'm curious to see the reach of this 8,000 or so audience here on Rumble tonight.
	Just let us know where you're watching from.
	And let us know also what your takeaway was from this episode, maybe in the comments below if you're watching this on replay.
	This might fuel our research in the next conversation when Kerry comes back on the show.
	In the meantime, as we're looking at that, Kerry, I mentioned this earlier before, I've done this interview with you on your book, The Rebel Gene, and how there seems to be a lot of effort to stamp that out right now.
	But nonetheless, it's still coming up, and humans and humans are waking up in a big, accelerated fashion.
	At the same time, there's a lot of fear right now in the community.
	We're getting emails a lot.
	There's a lot of change that's coming up, and the rate of change is also accelerating.
	And so that too is bringing fear into people here who are not We're losing their stability and their understanding of our worldview, and we get that a lot.
	There's this fatigue here of not understanding the world we live in because it's changing so fast below our feet, and that's accelerating.
	Given that we have this rebel gene, given that we are these ET races, given that we are All involved, if we know it or not, in this spiritual war.
	I want you to speak to the audience members right now who are trepidatious about all of the change, who are trepidatious about some of this overreach as we're seeing now by the court system, still these death blow moments, the perhaps World War III scenario moments coming up around the corner too.
	What would you say to them here to keep them into the fight here?
	Yeah, to keep them into the fight and to stay the course here on their mission.
	What would you tell them?
	What would be the advice?
	Well, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, as souls, we came here out of choice.
	And this is a great battleground to refine your understanding of life in the cosmos and to actually fight the good fight and to stand up for something that matters.
	And I think this era has that in spades, as did World War II, by the way.
	So a lot of heroes were created in World War II, I'm sure.
	And so once again, we're really up against it.
	And so I think if you make a choice, be hero of your own life, It's a quote from a book.
	I think it's from Robert Louis Stevenson, as I recall.
	So you decide, you're going to be hero of your own life or someone else's.
	And I think that you owe it to your children to be a hero.
	And I think there are different ways of being that.
	And I think Telling the truth, getting as much of the truth out as you can do, as you feel comfortable with.
	You can't force it.
	So, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
	Always remember.
	And so, I kind of, I don't go, you know, around waving a flag and, you know, telling people to vote or even, I don't even do that.
	So, you know, it's up to you where you want to fight your battles.
	I think it's a wonderful planet.
	It's a wonderful multiverse.
	And I think that the more you open your mind, the more you're going to learn and the more exciting it's going to be for you and the more challenging.
	So I don't think you should hide your head in the sand or go around in a depressed state.
	But I think you should welcome the challenge because we're up to it.
	And there's a reason why we're having such challenges at this time, and that's because we are evolving, re-evolving back to source, and that spirit and soul is paramount, not your physical body.
	And so, you know, I think that this is the journey, and it's worth it, you know, in the end.
	It's worth it to your soul, it's worth it to your children, it's worth it to your friends and family, that you be the hero of your own life.
	I love it.
	Be the hero of your own life and help us also in the focus of this episode and the genesis of this episode, which was to empower you with enough information, with enough questions, so that you too can go and do the research and not be manipulated so much by all of these limited hangouts and to some extent the Truth or Community warfare that we're seeing play out now in earnest in the last couple of months, so that you are empowered with the information and that you can contribute in your way here
	In being the hero of your own life.
	Thank you so much, Keri.
	This was the War Correspondent Show, guys, for today, June 26th.
	Keri, stay on the line here.
	I'll talk to you just after I sign out.
	Thank you so much, everyone, for watching.
	Please remember to like, share, and subscribe, and do go check out Keri's work, of course, at ProjectCanLotPortal.com.
	I'm Jean-Claude de Biomystic.
	I love you guys.

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