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April 17, 2024 - Project Camelot

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ROBERT STANELY: ANGELOLOGY

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You know, your overall understanding, sort of a deeper look at the cosmos in which we live, and our place there, and so on.
	Did I get this right?
	You call it Angelology?
	Yeah, like Demonology, except it's Angelology, yes.
	Okay, so that's kind of the title I put on this as well.
	So, I don't have your bio because I got times mixed up, but can you talk about your sort of background, how you got into this field and what you were doing with your life prior to getting into this field?
	Okay.
	Do you mind if I read my bio?
	It's very brief.
	I know, that's weird.
	Okay, so I've traveled to nearly 60 countries during my lifelong pursuit of modern and ancient mysteries.
	Over the past 33 years, my quest for unique ideas and information has led me to research and report many controversial topics.
	My ongoing investigations have been featured on television, radio, print, and of course the internet.
	I'm formerly a corporate Honda journalist.
	My God, just as I said that, my manager, my former manager from Honda texts me.
	Formerly a corporate journalist for Honda Research and Development, Torts, California.
	I'm currently employed as a corporate editor for an international company based in Hong Kong.
	I'm the author of Close Encounters on Capitol Hill and Covert Encounters in Washington, D.C.
	I'm also the host of the Unicus Report and I've served as a correspondent for America's Morning News and America's Radio News Network.
	And my content, that's what people are calling it now, is currently found exclusively on Substack, which is robertstanley.substack.com.
	Okay, now to answer your question, how in the heck did I get started doing this?
	I was living in Malibu at the time and having many close encounters back in the 80s.
	Yeah, it was in the mid to late 80s up in the mountains there, Santa Monica Mountains near Point Magoo.
	And as I sent you that one link, it's not just ancient ruins up there.
	There's something to do with UFOs.
	So that's where I became interested.
	Actually, they were interested in me and I couldn't understand why.
	In fact, I didn't even know who they were.
	And obviously, It took me decades to come to the point where I could actually say, oh, if you don't understand angelology, if you're not really researching angelology, you'll never know about who the so-called aliens or extraterrestrials really are.
	So, um, It's something that I really didn't expect.
	Actually, I didn't expect any of this stuff.
	It was all very surprising to me that I was being followed around by these craft, not knowing who's in them or why they're here, you know, covertly.
	That kind of creeped me out, to tell you the truth.
	I was very shocked more than once, but I realized eventually that I wasn't alone, obviously.
	I actually never really felt that way, but In 1990, I met my wife.
	She had just come back from Peru.
	She wasn't my wife at the time.
	Um, but she was working in advertising.
	She just started Unicus Magazine in print because of her contact with extraterrestrials.
	Started in Venice Beach and then she went down to Peru and actually had physical contact with them there.
	And so when she came back, she started the magazine, Unicus, the magazine for earthbound extraterrestrials.
	And when I met her, um, It was love at first sight.
	It's not just because she's beautiful.
	It's because we have this soul connection.
	And what happened was I took her up to the mountains there in Point Mugu and we started talking about everything and I just said, hey, I'd really like to help you with Unicus Magazine because I'm sure that there's something that I can provide.
	I have some experience in this, and I'm willing to help you.
	You don't have to even pay me.
	I'll just do it, and I'd be more than happy to.
	And we ended up falling in love.
	We've been together now over, what, 30-something years.
	But this is what brought us together, and it gave me a path forward professionally as A journalist, I guess, is the editor in this regard.
	Again, I wasn't expecting this, but it's something that, I guess they say it's a calling when the universe, life, whatever, shows you a path forward.
	I could have said no, but...
	In the process, I met a lot of people, just like you did, doing Project Camelot.
	You meet a lot of people, not just whistleblowers, but people that say things that are pretty unusual, to say the least.
	And some of it is real, some of it obviously isn't.
	Even though the people believe it, it doesn't mean it's true.
	So I kind of had to sift through all that stuff as editor of Eunicus Magazine.
	Eventually, we stopped printing it because everybody was going digital.
	I learned how to become a webmaster, and that's when I created unicusmagazine.com, and I was putting out a lot of information that way.
	But as far as the investigation of Washington, D.C., the UFO activity that goes on there covertly, I wasn't expecting that either.
	That was completely not on my radar, but I got sucked into it.
	I wrote two books about it, and that's how I originally, initially became semi-regular on Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
	That was my first book.
	It seemed to go okay, except after the show, I was getting email from people saying, we can't access the photographs on your website.
	They're gone.
	Of the UFOs right there in Washington, D.C.
	So it was middle of the night and I figured, you know, I'm a webmaster, no big deal.
	I'll just upload the photographs again, right?
	No big deal.
	Wouldn't work.
	So the next morning I got up and I called the company, the web hosting service, And I said, hey, I can't get in.
	What's going on?
	And they go, let us check.
	And they said, oh, this is really weird.
	We can't get into that server either now.
	So I ended up having to move my website to a different server.
	And it was that was.
	Actually, okay, I should back up.
	When I first published an article with photographs of the UFOs over the Capitol, one of them even landed on the Capitol roof in July of 2002.
	When I published those pictures, I had called the Capitol Police Public Relations Department and asked them some questions.
	And of course, they asked me a bunch of questions like, who are you?
	Why are you doing this?
	Where are you going to publish it?
	Et cetera.
	Well, I told them I wasn't trying to hide anything.
	But a week, the same week that I published that article in print and on the internet, I got visited by a black helicopter.
	And it wasn't a friendly visit either, by the way.
	It was scary as hell.
	I was sitting there in my office, like I am now, and suddenly I hear a helicopter, but then it came to the house and was literally flying low circles over the house.
	And it was so damn loud, it was shaking the entire house.
	So naturally, I go outside to see what's going on.
	And at that point, it was literally hovering over my driveway.
	Oh, thank you.
	Yeah, that's my current version.
	It's a work in progress.
	Okay, well, I don't want to interrupt you there.
	I just want to bring people's attention to they can come over here and are the photographs on here anymore or not?
	No, no, it's right now.
	Look, I was planning to get off the internet entirely because I just I know how How controlled it is and how they're censoring people, and especially the Restrict Act.
	They're talking about not just censoring people, but punishing us for just having opinions and putting information out that, you know, I mean, it's stupid, but that's the game that they want to play.
	I had deleted Unicus Magazine off completely.
	And I wasn't going to do anything until I got a call from Coast to Coast last year.
	And the producer... I mean, you must know some of the people there.
	Yeah, you said you've been on them.
	So Lisa calls me and she's frantic.
	She says... Yeah, I was hung up on.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	See, that doesn't happen very often.
	But anyway...
	Lisa is the producer that books people.
	She's a nice lady.
	She called me up and she's frantic.
	She says, Robert, the guests canceled last minute.
	We've only got a couple hours, you know, to put this thing together.
	Could you please come on tonight?
	And I go, I said, I have zero, zero social media.
	I don't have any articles.
	I got nothing.
	We got leased to your books on Amazon.
	I'm like, uh, so.
	What are we going to talk about?
	She goes, you name it.
	I don't care.
	She goes, I don't care.
	You just, whatever you want, we're going to talk about it.
	And that was what Ian punted before he died.
	Oh, I didn't know he died.
	Okay.
	Yeah, he did.
	He was actually a nice guy.
	Well, he was pretty okay with me.
	I don't think he believed half of what I was saying, but that's all right.
	The bottom line is that I quickly put up a sub stack.
	I'd never used it before, but I thought, you know what?
	I said, we're going to talk about the dangers of artificial intelligence.
	And I gave some examples of, you know, not just myself, but other people.
	One guy recently, I think it was last year, had died.
	He was listening to like a chat GPT and it told him, oh, you need to kill yourself for the good of the planet.
	And he did.
	It was in Europe.
	I know, I know.
	So anyway, that was extreme.
	But anyway, I just threw a sub stack together and for one article, So that they, the website, Coast to Coast website could link to that and then I could get some feedback from the audience because actually it's one of the best things about doing that show is because the number of people around the world that listen to that show is phenomenal.
	You know, and so the feedback I get from that is, it's worth the effort.
	So anyway, What started off as one article on Substack is now, I think there's over 50 pages and growing.
	So I did that first and then I realized, oh wait a minute, they could delete this at any time too.
	Substack is not exactly, well it's in San Francisco and I guess they're woke and whatever.
	It would be really easy for them to delete my work.
	And this wasn't easy, but I re-established Unicus Magazine, which you just showed, unicusmagazine.com, and it's like a backup.
	And it's only a fraction of the work that I've... I mean, I've been doing this for decades, so I have...
	Look, it's not all about quantity, by the way.
	No.
	No, it's the quality of work.
	And I know you know this, you have a massive archive of work over the years, right?
	So putting it up, and it takes a long time to put it up there.
	And once I took it all down, Putting it back... I mean, it's better now.
	I like the format a lot, but it's just taking me a little... I'm just explaining, all right?
	If you go to unicusmagazine.com, there's not a lot of content there now.
	Most of it is over at Substack, and even that's just a fraction of what I actually have.
	Okay.
	I'm going to see... I was just going to see if I could bring...
	You up on Substack, but it looks like I'm not finding it for somebody.
	Yeah, robertstanley.substack.com.
	Yeah, okay.
	I know that's stupid, but I'm searching, but they're, I think they're only going through my stuff.
	They're only going, I'm not doing the right kind of search, so.
	Okay, not a problem.
	Yeah, I'm just not finding it at this exact moment.
	But anyway, I can, like, I could, if you want, I'll send you the pictures later if you want to post them somewhere.
	Yeah, I do.
	Because that was, all right, I understand.
	And look, these are not great photographs.
	It's just a point-and-shoot cam.
	But here's what happened.
	Okay, so the helicopter comes in.
	July of 2005.
	Now, I'm reporting this story a couple years after, three years after the event.
	I'm actually, it's becoming known for the first time, and um...
	I get a visit from the black helicopter.
	It's over the driveway.
	I'm freaking out.
	And it's, I mean, it was totally blacked out.
	I couldn't see who was inside.
	Obviously, there's people in there.
	And I was so freaked out.
	I'm just standing with my mouth open, looking at them in a state of shock.
	And then they turned, went down the street and turned around and started coming back up the street.
	So I ran in the house and I got a point-and-shoot camera and took a couple pictures as they were leaving, just to show people, hey, you know, this thing was here.
	It's a damn good thing my wife and son were not home because I would have never heard the end of it from my wife and I know it was scared the heck out of my son.
	And I'm telling you this because Unintended consequence of that visit was that I thought, if there's nothing going on in Washington, D.C., why in the hell would they send a military helicopter to my home in a civilian neighborhood like that and treat me that way?
	You know, trying to intimidate me, at the least.
	That was, I'm assuming, because they didn't tell me why, but I'm assuming it was a level of intimidation.
	They were trying to get me to shut up, I guess.
	That's kind of a weird way to do it.
	Because that's not my style.
	When they did that to me, I started looking deeper into it.
	Sure.
	I was only reporting this one event that took place because we had photographs that were based on 35mm negatives taken by a professional photographer who had actually worked for ABC News for 14 years and was at the Capitol that night shooting pictures on a freelance deal at night for a local recording artist.
	He was shooting an album cover.
	It's a very credible story.
	And so I started, I really dug into it and that's when I found, well, everybody knew about 1952.
	Here I am reporting 2002 and I'm thinking, oh gee, I wonder what happened in between those 50 years or whatever.
	So I started looking and I mean, I was blown away because soon I had 20, 30, 40, 60, 80, over a hundred reports of UFOs in Washington, D.C.
	that were scattered all over the internet.
	You know, newspaper articles and books and stuff.
	So I started putting them together.
	That's one of the things I did at Honda Research and Development was timelines.
	You can analyze the trends by doing timelines and looking at the data statistically.
	So I did that.
	I started doing that and I thought, whoa, there's no way I can do an article about this.
	So I started writing my first book, which again, I didn't intend to do that.
	I did not intend to do that.
	So one reason I'm telling you this is because If people want to read that book for free, you just go to my sub stack, robertstanley.substack.com.
	I put it at the top there.
	It's called You Can Handle the Truth.
	And if you click on that, it'll give you... You know what?
	I'm going to also send you the link to download this stuff in Skype just to make it easier for you.
	Yeah, no, I appreciate it, but I'm going to type your thing here and see if I can get there.
	Okay.
	Okay, go ahead.
	So the bottom line is I clearly got somebody's attention in Washington, D.C.
	They motivated me to look even deeper and the next thing I know I've written a book about the hidden history of UFOs in Washington, D.C.
	that nobody seems to want to talk about.
	Um, and I actually, I interviewed a lot of military guys.
	You obviously knew Bob Dean really well, but I also talked to Colonel Stevens before he passed and, and others, Daryl Sims and, and, and people, not just people in the military, but, you know, guys that know, like you, you interviewed all these people, uh, Daniel Sheehan and stuff.
	We talked a lot about the politics of the coverup.
	Because obviously we're talking about Washington DC and that's the center of the cover-up regarding extraterrestrials visiting Earth.
	But I was only focused on Washington, D.C.
	proper, which seemed really weird, you know?
	I was really surprised that nobody was talking about it.
	Like, everybody knew about 1952, but they didn't actually know all the details because the newspapers around the world and here in the U.S., they reported that it happened like two or three times that summer.
	It actually happened over 80 times that year, 1952, that they came to Washington, D.C.
	Is what I found out.
	It took me years to figure this out, but the bottom line is, as I was putting together the first book, I was shocked.
	I was really, really shocked.
	And I thought, you know what?
	We've got the pictures.
	I've got this whole timeline.
	It's going to be... I stupidly thought this was going to be easy.
	Because, you know, a lot of people in the UFO community have said, oh, if they just land on the White House lawn, That would solve the problem.
	I mean, it's undeniable, right?
	Well, they didn't.
	They landed on the U.S.
	Capitol just down the street, on the mall, from the White House.
	Anyway, but they didn't step out and have a press conference.
	That would have changed things entirely.
	No, thank you.
	Okay, so it took me a while to find it.
	Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
	I'm surprised.
	I think I'm wrong or something.
	But anyway, yeah, so you have a free book on here and where where is it?
	You got to keep going down.
	All right.
	Don't worry.
	I give you a page on my website, so you can have all your links and everything.
	We won't worry about finding it right this second.
	You can handle the truth, right?
	Yeah.
	That's a great title.
	Thanks.
	I approve.
	Alright, thanks.
	Well, apparently, here's the thing.
	I did, and it's in the article, I did a survey on the internet at one point, and I asked some very poignant questions to the public globally.
	How would you feel about having a relationship with benevolent extraterrestrials?
	And the bottom line is this.
	The public seems to act like they can handle it, not just the truth, but establishing a relationship with benevolent extraterrestrials.
	The government, our government, whoever's running it apparently does not want that to happen.
	Right.
	And that's a whole other subject.
	Well, it's actually an important subject.
	I mean, primarily because they lose control of the population.
	Yes.
	Extraterrestrials, interterrestrials, all the different ones, even the ones from inner earth.
	If they have more highly developed technology, that's considered to have more power, especially by our space program.
	So, they're definitely afraid that they're not going to have, you know, any respect, which they probably lost a lot of respect anyway, because they lie to us continuously.
	You know, NASA, never a straight answer.
	And so, This is their primary reason, but there are other reasons as well, and one of them is because they're not all nice, you know?
	Well, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, so Christians call it the war in heaven, but it's not in heaven, it's in the heavens here.
	There's some sort of conflict that's been raging for a very long time, and obviously Earth has caught up, and not just Earth, but our solar system is part of this, this greater conflict, and you know, the first casualty of war is always truth, and so But that doesn't excuse this behavior of treating us like mushrooms all the time.
	It's really got to stop.
	However, I will also put blame on the extraterrestrials.
	I know there's many different groups, but still, you think that... I mean, I know for a fact if they would have a public dialogue or hold a press conference, even if it was just one group, that would break the truth embargo.
	And so I kind of fault them.
	For some reason, they're just standing off and saying, no, we don't want to talk to you guys openly in public.
	Well, actually, it has to do with war, because they're at war with each other.
	Yeah.
	So, the minute one side discloses, it's actually not so different than the war between the Illuminati and, you might say, the good guys or the white hats or whatever you want to call them here on Earth.
	In other words, The minute one side comes forward, the other side feels it has to come forward, but it is going to be upset about it, so because it's like taking control.
	They're all about influence.
	They're actually more about influence than killing, okay?
	So this is, you know, there are, you know, there are sort of sides to the story, but I don't want you to lose the track because you were talking about the helicopters and you know, those of us who have been involved in this world have had this as well.
	It's nothing that unusual, but it was unusual for you and I do want to bring the sort of highlight back in those days.
	So you were Correct me if I'm wrong.
	A top executive at Honda at some point?
	Is that correct?
	No, no, no.
	I was an assistant researcher in the futurist department.
	Yeah.
	And I was, I know, but I was writing top level reports.
	I was helping them summarize top level trend reports for upper management So that when it was translated from English to Japanese, things weren't lost in translation.
	If you can summarize it well, make it simplified, so that when it translates, they get it and just look at it and go, oh, I understand.
	It was very challenging, but it was also very rewarding too.
	Do you speak Japanese?
	No, I don't need to.
	I'm saying the reports that we were working on were in English, but I would summarize it down in the English part, then it would go to the translator, and then it would go to the upper management executive level.
	Well, it's interesting.
	I like to delve into these things, because there's got to be more to it than that.
	So, what is it about maybe your family line, your bloodline?
	Were they in the military?
	Do you have that kind of background?
	Or intelligence?
	Any of them in intelligence fields?
	Yeah, my dad's brother.
	The answer is yes.
	Well, my dad's brother was a military intelligence officer in the Air Force, yeah.
	Yeah, so that puts you on the radar right away.
	I suppose so, but you know it was, oh man.
	When we first started, when I met my wife and I was helping her with Unicus and she was introducing me to all these people, one of the guys who claimed he was a walk-in, I didn't even know what that was at the time, but he clearly had contact with people off-world.
	And this isn't going to sound normal at all.
	How do I say this?
	That's okay.
	You wouldn't believe maybe what my audience has heard.
	It probably will sound normal to them.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Anyway, he said that his people, and I'm sure he was...
	German.
	His memorabilia and stuff at his parents' house in Bel Air.
	Anyway, he claimed not only could they time travel, which relates to the Nazi belt, he said that they had devices that would actually read people's thoughts from a distance.
	They could be up, you know, over a city and scanning everybody.
	Okay.
	He made it clear to me that they've been watching me for a while.
	And then that freaked me out because I'm like, wait a second.
	I know I'm being surveilled.
	And I know you, I knew at this one particular time when I was coming down out of the mountains in Malibu, I, I, you know, sometimes you get that feeling in the back of your neck, like somebody's watching you or something.
	Well, this was really, really strong.
	And I, I was riding my motorcycle and I looked up at this one little dark area in the sky and I said, Hey, I know you're up there.
	Why don't you just show yourself?
	And then they turned the light on in the craft, and I damn near wrecked my bike.
	I had to pull over.
	I was shaking like a leaf.
	And then they turned off the light.
	So that wasn't my first rodeo.
	But the level of confirmation, it was so obvious.
	It was like, this couldn't be a figment of my imagination.
	And I felt violated on one level and then validated on another.
	It was the craziest thing at the moment.
	I was just like freaking out.
	That's cool.
	I was there by myself in the middle of the mountains going, now what do I do?
	It's not like I have anything to hide, but not knowing who they are and why are they following me around.
	And it just was really creepy.
	So by 1990, when I meet my wife and I'm helping launch Unicus to the next level,
	I meet this guy, and he's making all these wild claims, and he said that the person that brought him, kind of woke him up, activated him, was living in Santa Monica, very near to where I was living at the time.
	Very near, like a couple blocks over, all right?
	And I said, well, can I meet this guy?
	He goes, no, I don't know where he went.
	I'm like, okay, so you just don't want to tell me.
	But one night, while this is all happening, I always go for a walk at night.
	It helps me sleep better.
	I walk around the block, and then I come back, and I am just so restless.
	I don't even know why.
	I don't normally do this, but I got up, and I had to go back outside again.
	And I'm walking around, and I see these guys coming down the street, and one of them is literally sitting—he's halfway out the passenger window, and he's like sitting on the window.
	The window's down, but he's sitting on the doorframe, you know?
	And he's holding on and he's looking out.
	He's looking at something up in the sky as they're driving down the street.
	So naturally, I look over and see what he's looking at.
	I'm like, whoa.
	Whoa, that's a UFO.
	And it's low over the city.
	It's kind of near the direction of Venice.
	But it was coming towards where I was.
	So, it's coming this way, and I'm walking that way, and at some point, it stops, and I stop.
	And this went on for a few minutes, and I stop, and I'm watching it, and it's actually started getting brighter on inside.
	I could actually see levels of, like, decks inside.
	It was segmented.
	I mean, when I say it was over the buildings, it was maybe like 300, 400 feet above the buildings.
	And then, and then when it stopped, it, it started getting brighter and brighter.
	And then suddenly it got, it was getting so bright and, but it was, from my perspective, it looked like it was shrinking.
	And then I suddenly realized, wow, that's, it was literally going.
	Like this.
	No sound but it just it was going so fast out of the atmosphere from from just right over the rooftop to like near like this and it it came kind of gave me vertigo because it was moving so fast and I was staring right at it and I you know it took my brain a minute to process that wow it just it just left the atmosphere and but I could still see it it was still it was so bright you know I could still see it on And all I could think to do was to wave at him like, you know, hello, goodbye.
	I don't know what, you know, just, it's just a natural reflex.
	I didn't know.
	And then I turned around and I looked and there was two guys standing on a balcony watching the whole damn thing.
	And I felt really weird because they must, they obviously saw me.
	Waving at this thing, you know, and I don't know what they must have thought about me because I didn't say a word to them and they were just kind of looking at each other going, uh, so I left, but I was, I was so, I mean, it, this happened.
	That kind of stuff happens so frequently that like when I met my, my wife and I started working on Unicus and meeting other people, that was totally normal to me.
	In a lot of respects, even though it sounded crazy to a lot of other people.
	But eventually, like I said, this is all part of some bigger plan.
	Not just disclosure, it's about re-establishing a relationship that we've had with these And I'm not sure why we had to separate.
	Other than like what you said, it's pretty obvious there's a war going on.
	So, you know, some of us have to be segregated or isolated or whatever.
	Okay, but now in terms of your experiences, you've kind of talked about craft and all of this, but did you have like, I don't know what you want to call it, but did you have visitation, face-to-face conversations?
	Did it morph into some kind of contact, you know, experience?
	Do you know Jerry Wells?
	That name is familiar, but I don't know.
	Okay, well, he looks like a tall blonde Nordic.
	My wife and I met him in NBC Studios doing a show.
	We did a lot of television at the time because Unicus Magazine was on newsstands.
	Um, so meeting Jerry was unusual to say the least.
	And, um, like I said, I met the other guy first, also a Nordic, but not a tall blonde.
	He was just, you know, obviously a German kind of guy.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And, um, with access to technology that, you know, I didn't realize at the time was something that the Germans would not only were working on, they were, it was literally handed to them.
	So, uh, And the Japanese... God, that was the other thing.
	When I worked at Honda, I was really surprised to find out that they were working on some secret stuff too, including nuclear bombs during World War II.
	Nobody seemed to want to talk about much.
	In any case, it was quite a learning experience going through being editor of Unicus, meeting people that had made some wild claims.
	Some of it obviously is true.
	Some of it I, you know, who knows?
	We'll probably never be able to To find out for sure, but it made for interesting reading.
	It made for a very interesting life.
	Again, I wasn't, I didn't consciously sit down and say, Oh, I want to be editor of a magazine for extraterrestrials, or I want to have contact, you know, it was just happening to me.
	And somehow I took the lemons and made lemonade out of it.
	And hopefully help some people, not just entertain.
	It's not even about entertainment.
	I know that's what you do.
	I mean, you're motivated to actually help people by getting information out there that is true and relevant.
	Well, we're in a war.
	It seems appropriate that if you're going to pick a side, so to speak.
	So I consider, and I think Certainly, my enemies have considered that I picked a side a long time ago and I can't be, what do you want to call it, corrupted.
	And so, you know, I guess I proved that.
	I've been doing this for 20 years now, publicly.
	But before that, I had my own experiences, personally.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah, so in your case though, you bring up this guy Jeffrey Wells.
	You say he's a Nordic.
	Jerry.
	Jerry.
	Okay, Jerry Wells.
	And you say he's a Nordic.
	Is he like famous or something?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, he's...
	Somewhat, yes.
	He's been around, he's been very public.
	He was one of the guys, like I said, after the show at NBC, we got his number, we started talking, we published an article about him.
	And his story is fascinating.
	Supposedly he was brought here as a child, as an infant, and handed over at, I think he said he was near Fort Knox when he was adopted or given over to a military family.
	And that his father was a high-level mason and it's just like all this stuff.
	I mean, it's really intriguing.
	It's in my first book.
	Okay.
	Are you still in touch with him?
	No, unfortunately.
	I must have said something to offend him.
	I'm not sure.
	I didn't do it intentional.
	If I did, you know, sorry, Jerry, if you're watching this.
	Yeah, we had some mutual friends, and one of them was working in the State Department, and he was conveniently taken out.
	I mean, they said he had a heart attack, but to me and other people that knew him, we feel like he was removed.
	Your friend, not Jerry Wells, but your friend.
	No, Kevin Smith.
	Kevin Smith was- I know that name.
	Yeah, he was a talk show host, but he was also working for the State Department, wink, wink, for many years.
	And that's when he decided to just, he had to find a way to communicate these really esoteric and off the record kind of stuff.
	Unofficially, he was putting out information that obviously the State Department didn't like.
	It's specifically about extraterrestrials and, like you said, this ongoing war.
	So I consider him a casualty of that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's what happened to Kevin.
	And I think that's what destroyed my relationship with Jerry.
	But I knew him for years.
	I hope you don't mind me asking you these questions.
	No, it's fine.
	When you say something provocative, I can't just let it go.
	That's fine.
	There's some reason, like you're seeing a connection between the two events.
	Between your friendship with the one, Jerry, and your friendship with Kevin Smith.
	And Kevin Smith was quite a well-known figure in the UFO field.
	Um so and you think he was taken out which does happen I've got lots of my well not lots but a fair number of witnesses and they've also attacked me and done all kind of crazy shit to me.
	Yeah me too.
	So um yeah so These things go on, but why would why would that interfere with your relationship with Jerry unless you thought the Nordics were involved and that gets into a discussion of what do you think that they're completely?
	I guess, you know.
	I don't know, benevolent towards humans, or do you think that Nordics have an agenda?
	I happen to think, I happen to know that Pleiadians have an agenda, for example.
	I don't consider Pleiadians Nordics, but Nordics and Pleiadians are different, but there are different kinds of Nordics also.
	You know, the beings from Aldebaran could be classified as Nordics, but they're actually A mixture of what appear to be humanoid and reptilian.
	And I've sort of discovered that over time because there was no other explanation for the things they did with Nazi Germany and so on and so forth.
	So they have an agenda.
	But I'm wondering what your, so was there a feeling like a subliminal feeling or was it conscious in which you felt that Jerry or the Nordics might have been involved somehow or some way?
	I don't think Jerry, I mean Jerry seemed like, he introduced me to Kevin actually, and Kevin was the first person to enter, who actually read my book, my first book completely, and because he'd worked in the State Department and as a military police officer, he grilled me.
	And he felt that I was being sincere and answering to the best of my ability.
	I wasn't obfuscating about anything.
	And so then he took it really seriously and got actually got really, he got so pissed off that this was going on and it somehow they were managing to keep a lid on it.
	You know?
	But okay, so the, if you remember what Bob Dean said, because he and I talked a lot before he passed, unfortunately.
	And he talked about the, this briefing, the threat assessment that he saw when he was in Belgium at the, okay.
	He said that there was a group That looked almost identical to humans.
	And that's the group that they were most concerned about because obviously they could be walking among us or even working at the Pentagon or NATO or whatever.
	And I'm pretty sure that's the case.
	So it's what I said before.
	There's got to be a reason why they're not talking to the public.
	About the fact that they're here.
	And that just makes me very uncomfortable, specifically because the way that things ended with the first guy, the German, let's just call him the German guy.
	He said his people were here everywhere, here, and that they were only about 100 years ahead of us technologically.
	And I never asked him, why the hell are you guys here then?
	You know, what are you doing here?
	But like I said, he made it really clear that they had been following me around, which I, but I never asked him why, you know, other than I guess he, what he, okay, he did kind of say, well, you're, you're part of our, our race.
	And I assumed that he meant German.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Um, so he sounds like he's from El Deberan.
	Most likely.
	Okay, so you know about that whole thing.
	So are you German?
	Okay, your last name is Stanley.
	Okay, on my mom's side it would be Shanks.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Mertz.
	Shanks.
	No, forget that.
	That's my grandfather.
	My grandmother's side for my mom is Mertz.
	My great-grandfather actually was named Fred Mertz.
	It's a German.
	Oh yeah, Mertz is very German.
	German, German, German.
	Okay, so when they identify you that way, of course they're going to follow you around.
	Now, just curious in terms of timelines, was this before or after you met your wife?
	That was shortly after I met her.
	We didn't get married right away, but we were deeply in love working on this passion.
	It's not a hobby.
	It's more like, oh, you know the feeling.
	It's like a calling.
	It's obviously your mission.
	I call it a mission more than anything.
	But okay, so you met both these guys after you connected with your wife, and is she, would you say, you know, German, Nordic, or like that?
	No, she's Chinese.
	She's Chinese, so... All right, so, but all of this happened after that, not before.
	Right.
	Okay.
	But you'd already been into UFOs and- No, no, no.
	I wasn't.
	Look, let me just be clear.
	They were following me and I got really curious.
	I mean, look, I'm not stupid.
	I read about UFOs growing up.
	Everybody did.
	But I wasn't interested in it.
	I wasn't researching it full time until they started- The black helicopter, when is that in this timeline?
	That was 2005.
	But my first close encounters started in the 80s in Malibu, above Point Magoo, which is a naval base.
	And you know who actually documented that they were getting buzzed at the base?
	The radar installations were actually getting burned out.
	The circuits were getting burned out as the UFOs were coming through.
	There was Major Donald Kehoe.
	He wrote about that.
	He said, yeah, he went there to Point Mugu Naval Base and they need some, because they track missiles that are launched there onto the Pacific, so they have to have some very powerful radars.
	But the UFOs that were coming down there were absolutely screwing up the radar systems for them.
	So I could trace it back to at least the 40s and obviously to the battle for Los Angeles, was that 42?
	Well, the UFOs that came over Los Angeles area, San Pedro and all that, they were seen coming out of the mountains over Malibu towards Los Angeles.
	That year, at that event.
	Some of them obviously came from that direction, so God only knows how long they've been coming there.
	I can only guess why, because once again, they're not telling me much of anything.
	That's why I was so consumed with trying to find out more about them, whoever they are, and what they're doing here, covertly.
	Okay, but, you know, I actually have a photograph.
	I'm going to see if it'll show up.
	So I'm going to share this.
	Before Camelot, I think, I made this documentary.
	That's what I was doing, making a UFO documentary.
	And you see this picture?
	Yes.
	Well, this is shot out over the beach in Malibu.
	And what happened was there was actually, I have other pictures of this missile or something being launched.
	And then I was looking at one side of the sky and then I, for some reason, felt, you know, moved to turn and look at the opposite side of the sky.
	And this was being formed for me, which looks like a seahorse or something.
	And it's constructed out of what it appears to be UFOs.
	And they made that in the sky for me and I was like, what the hell?
	And I took a picture and back in those days I had one of those kind of cameras that took good pictures like that, you know, those kind of things.
	And, you know, stuff like that.
	So I want to say that, yeah, this kind of thing definitely goes on and that's a hotspot.
	It's considered to be a hotspot.
	There's a guy who wrote a book about Los Angeles UFOs or something like that.
	I forget the title.
	Preston Dennett?
	Yeah, maybe.
	Yeah.
	There's not many of us doing this, Carrie, you know?
	It's a small community of people that actually are dedicating themselves to getting this information out there.
	But you gotta understand that that photograph is probably at least 20 years old and maybe older.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, I do get it.
	But you're kind of not answering the question too specifically.
	So you met a person who was like in regular society who could pass and convinced you they were Nordic and then they connected you with another person and so on and so forth.
	But what about this idea of a visitation from, you know, Like whether it's teleporting or whether they came through a portal or whether they landed their UFO on your front lawn, did you have you had contact that way?
	Not specifically, not like that.
	However, there was more than one occasion when we were up at Above Point Magoo where the craft would show up and literally beam a white light on us.
	Oh.
	I don't know if that was part of an abduction or programming or what it was, to tell you the truth, but it certainly wasn't a helicopter with a floodlight, you know?
	So you might have had, you probably had missing time.
	Yes, I have.
	And while I was alone up in the mountains, that's actually, yes, that was September 21st, 1985.
	That's a whole other story.
	Look, I'm really famous for saving a boy's life and going up and meditating on a mountain, having out of body experience.
	And that's how I found those ancient ruins I sent you that picture of.
	But that takes, it's too long to explain.
	All I know, all I want you to know is, It seems like a setup, like a dominoes.
	It's like one thing leads to the next to the next.
	So I found myself going up to those, you know, the ruins in Malibu still have not been fully acknowledged.
	But the UFO thing seems like, okay, people are willing to admit there's UFOs there.
	And I know from experience, because I took people up there at night, especially when you could see them, and it's right above a military base, so you know the military sees it, too.
	If I can see it, if my friends can see it, they're like, hey, do you see that?
	Yes.
	What is it?
	Uh, the military has got to be aware of it.
	Well, what about the undersea, you know, um, places that they've been reporting that Jimmy Church, uh, wanted to, well, he, he wanted to go out and take an expedition out and then they convinced him otherwise.
	Yes.
	I remember that whole thing.
	Um, I actually reported it first, but Jimmy did it better.
	No, that's fine.
	It's good.
	Um, but it's that's right.
	In front of or due west off the coast directly where the... Point Dune.
	Point Magoo.
	No, Point Magoo.
	Point Magoo, okay.
	Yeah, I grew up there.
	I know people make that mistake.
	Actually, the media helped everybody get confused.
	It was not Point Dume.
	It was Point Magoo, which is a little bit north.
	That's where that weird anomaly was on Google Earth.
	If you were to go directly inland from there, that's where the UFO activity was happening for me and also where those ancient megalithic ruins are.
	So, that's what I was looking for on Google Earth.
	I was studying the topography of the thing and that's when I noticed that.
	Seriously, they covered it up now.
	Did you know that?
	Yes, I saw that the other day.
	I looked on Google Earth.
	It's gone.
	It's been removed.
	I mean, these people are crazy.
	They are just crazy.
	I have copious files.
	Because they want to turn back the clock.
	It just drives me crazy.
	Right now, they're actually trying.
	They think we are stupid.
	And if they could just cover over the past, pretend like they've just started looking into UFOs, renamed it as UAPs, you know?
	Yeah, right.
	I mean, this game they're playing, but we're not going away.
	And people that I know that are involved in this field are just as adamant about it as I am.
	I mean, maybe nobody's quite as adamant as me, but I am.
	I don't know.
	But no, really, because they are trying to change history, to pretend that this just started when, you know, they just started looking into it, because they've got a history of secrecy.
	And this goes back, as you know, to the 1930s, certainly to the 1940s, but probably to the 1930s and maybe even before, because I know there's stuff in the 1800s that was reported back then.
	Oh yeah, no, even before that.
	You know, when General Samford at the Pentagon had to hold a press conference in 1952 because everybody was freaking out about the UFOs coming over Washington, D.C., he said, this has been going on since biblical times.
	Well, sure.
	And it's in the paintings, you know.
	Yes, I know.
	But for him to admit that, I mean, he just said it really, you know, he was really deadpan monotone.
	Yeah, they've been coming here since the biblical.
	What does that mean?
	Well, that goes back to what I said before about angelology.
	And I didn't really start looking into that until 2000.
	Yeah.
	No, excuse me, not 2000, 2020.
	Sorry.
	Wow.
	2020 is when I, yeah, I came back from Hong Kong in 2019.
	I was living there for about four years with my wife.
	And then, and then when I came back, um, I was hosting the, uh, the Unicus Report.
	And I stumbled onto something, a book actually called Angelology.
	It's a novel, but I didn't know that there was a full-on study like demonology.
	I didn't realize that was a thing until I read this novel, and then it got me looking deeper and deeper and deeper until I realized, oh my God, that's what I'm doing.
	Those are the beings that I've been trying to understand and, you know, get a grip on this weird relationship we have with them, and the way that they manipulate us, and obviously they're benevolent to one another, there's malevolent ones, and they seem, yeah, they seem to be at odds with each other, and we're sort of caught in the middle of it all.
	It doesn't mean, that's not an excuse, but I'm just saying it's a very weird dynamic to say the least.
	Right.
	But what you do seem to have gotten something of a high handle on it.
	And a lot of what you conclusions that you've come across, or whatever you want to call them, are things that I have, you know, come to as well.
	So that's why I wanted to bring you on my show, to compare notes in a way.
	But yeah, so I mean, it's it, I think my audience is going to be fascinated by your early history, though, because the show I listened to, you didn't talk about this No, no.
	Or if you did, I missed it.
	No, no, I didn't.
	I was kind of looking forward, projecting forward as to what I saw when I came to Florida in 2022, because that's where I'm at now.
	Even though I'm from Southern California, I've been to 59 countries and lived in Hong Kong and New England, and now I'm in Florida.
	And yeah, I've been around.
	The bottom line is, when I was here, I got a flash of what was coming.
	And this so-called Third World War is It's very misleading the way they segment everything, you know?
	They kind of want to put up these firewalls and are amazed.
	They build a maze of our minds and it's very hard to connect things, get a holistic view, put it into the proper context.
	So the bottom line is this so-called World War III is a continuation of World War II and World War I.
	But it all started in the Middle East, in the Levant, between these factions of so-called angels or extraterrestrials here.
	And they're fighting over control of not only this planet but us.
	And so it began there.
	It will end there.
	And I'm not religious.
	I just want people to know that I saw exactly how.
	I mean, reading Revelations, I thought, you know, that's weird.
	How?
	Why would all the armies of the world end up there, of all places?
	There's nothing there, really, to fight about.
	Well, I can tell you one thing.
	There is a very... it's actually said to have the most powerful portal system on the planet.
	Oh, that makes... that, okay.
	That actually makes sense.
	And, you know, I didn't know that Until, you know, maybe this year or something like that, I heard someone talk about it.
	Because, you know, there are so many things that go on in the Gulf of Aden and that whole... there's like a pocket.
	So that's the why we're so... and interestingly, of course, the Great Pyramid, the pyramids are there.
	So it's a small little area of the earth, but it is like a fulcrum area.
	And then there's even tangential areas like Malta, for example, undersea near Malta.
	I've traveled the world as well and I've been all these places, a lot of them in person.
	No, Atlantis was a worldwide civilization, but it was concentrated in certain areas in the Atlantic Ocean and all of that.
	But also, Malta was a repository for secret scrolls and things, and still has them.
	And which is why the Knights of Malta are guarding that place, you know, lives, basically.
	And for some reason, I had easy fluidity.
	I went numerous times to Malta.
	I was on Maltese TV, which I've never been on American TV, but I was on Maltese TV, right?
	Wow.
	So it's, you know, I mean, we did a TV show, but I wasn't like live TV where you have a conversation with me, that kind of thing.
	It's, yeah, it's a very, very focused, as I say, portal system.
	And that means it's a place where things come in and go out, right?
	Right, right.
	And so that's very fascinating.
	In terms of Armageddon and what may be the final battles and things like that, you know, it's very, okay, there has, I don't know, do you know about like Akhenaten and Nefertiti and the effort to create a different, you know, a one god religion and that they went up against the priesthood?
	Do you know that history?
	Yeah, yeah, I've heard about it.
	Okay well because I had past life I was there I meditated and I went to what's called Amarna and I saw I actually time traveled while I was there and saw it as the jungle it was and the palace and then I went into a deep meditation having no idea what's going to happen with I think I had two other guys we were doing like a three-way meditation which might have
	jump jumped me into the timeline but I was there literally and when I came to I thought I was in the wrong universe literally I thought I was supposed to be that was my life okay so it was one of those kind of things it was very jarring and very bizarre but it happened in Amarna And right now Amarna looks like a nuclear bomb hit it, in case you've never been there.
	No.
	Did you ever go physically?
	Because most people go to Egypt, they never go to Amarna because basically there's nothing there anymore.
	There's a few cut-off ruins still embedded in the sand there.
	But there's really nothing and one or two columns or something like that.
	But then up in the hills around the sides up there are these little kind of caves where they have some relics that survived the basically electric wars.
	I think it was the back in the time when they were using directed energy weapons and all that.
	So it's been decimated literally and Even now, the Illuminati do not want people to know about Akhenaten and Nefertiti, and they don't want them to know about the fact that they established a counter-civilization.
	And Tutankhamun was not really their child, but Tutankhamun was taken as a young king to be with the old priests in Luxor, so he was moved right out of there.
	But anyway, so... And they had some unusual features too, didn't they?
	Like an elongated skull and stuff?
	Yeah, Akhnaten is my theory.
	You know, I talk about this.
	I don't want to, you know, go off track.
	Sorry.
	There's, you know, Akhnaten, yeah, his physicality, he's definitely from an alien race and he had a mission he was supposed to do.
	According to Ashiana Dean and her Voyager books and they talk about that mission and how he failed at the mission to go down into the temple halls basically underground and deliver
	these I think I don't know was to take the scrolls or what it was to do but anyway he he didn't succeed but Nefertiti I believe was another race so they were not the same race but they you know met and and all that so they had a family together and but as I say Tutankhamen I guess was adopted so he was not Bloodline.
	But anyway, I digress.
	Wait, don't leave Egypt yet because that was a formative experience.
	I was only there for a few days.
	Oh, you went there?
	Okay.
	Well, I was 15 and I was with my parents.
	They did not want to, my sister, they refused to go inside the pyramid.
	And I'm like, while we're here, I'm going.
	And I went into the Queen's Chamber, the lower chamber, by myself.
	I was there for a while.
	Then I went and ascended the Grand Gallery and went into the King's Chamber.
	And there was a tour group there.
	So the room was full.
	And I was squeezed in there.
	I was only there just a few moments before the tour guide, who I couldn't even see because there were so many people in front of me.
	He took a wooden mallet and he struck this stone box, that so-called sarcophagus or coffer, and it rang like a tuning fork.
	The pitch is actually, I believe, is F flat, whatever.
	Anyway, the sound was circulating around the room, and I'm listening to it going, this is crazy!
	It's like a Disneyland ride.
	And the next thing I know, my vision went White.
	I wasn't blacking out, I was having a whiteout.
	I can tell you now, it was a very short, brief, out-of-body experience, because the next thing I know, it felt to me like I was outside the pyramid, looking at the pyramid, and what was really even weirder was, I glanced over and saw that there were Egyptian gods looking at me.
	Alright.
	And, you know, they were men but wearing those, whatever, those weird head... Yeah.
	It really absolutely freaked me out and I didn't know what to do other than the next thing I next thing I know I'm back in the pyramid my vision is returning to normal but my hearing was like super sensitive like there was a hissing sound left in the air like the loudest snake you can imagine just And I'm looking around at everybody and I'm thinking, I thought this was part of it.
	I don't know.
	I thought it was like part of the tour.
	And I thought everybody experienced it, but they were acting like nothing was going on, which I couldn't understand.
	So as they all filtered out, the tour guide was the last one to leave, and he was the native guy.
	He obviously didn't speak much English, and I'm trying to explain to—I'm asking him questions, and he's looking at me like, yeah, you crazy American kid, just, you know.
	He didn't really want to talk to me, or he couldn't.
	Look, that's just his job.
	Boom, you just hit the thing, right?
	So, just saying, I'm not surprised by what you told me.
	I do need to send you a conversation I had with James Horek about what they did to Napoleon when he was in the- Oh, yeah, okay.
	Do you remember that with the chip in his head?
	Do you remember that story?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	I know about Napoleon and the curse and things like that.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	The RFID chip that was planted in his head when he was in Egypt.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, my.
	Well, allegedly.
	OK, I'm just saying, since we're having this conversation, you should hear what James Horak had to say.
	He was a very good friend of Kevin Smith.
	And I actually think, you know, that's probably where things went off the rails for me, because James, I don't know who he worked for or with.
	He was a very well informed guy.
	And he acted as though he was a time traveler.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay, and obviously you cannot, there's no way to validate that, but he seemed adamant, you know?
	He didn't break from the character at all.
	And the way he just, anyway, we became friends and he told me some crazy stuff.
	I mean, really, really wild.
	Well, I just, before we go there, I just want to tell you that I was there.
	I brought a group, you know, I lead Tours of Egypt and I brought a group in 2012 and everyone, including Sean David Morton, who's a good friend of mine.
	I don't know if you know who he is.
	Yeah, he warned me, like, not to go.
	Okay, that was so dangerous.
	And you know, they were having Arab Spring or whatever it was before or after that or whatever.
	Right.
	And I went anyway, and I formed the group to go two weeks before I left.
	Because I couldn't get people to come along and then at the last minute people came along.
	So you have to have a certain amount and I think we got 10 people or whatever the required amount was to actually go.
	Yeah.
	And so we had amazing experiences and because there weren't a lot of tourists around we got Full you know we got full access to all kind of places and stuff and including the museum Egyptian museum with no crowds nothing so was great but and we had no we were not in danger or anything and it was fabulous but the thing is that I We were there for the 2020, you know that 2012 big thing that they made about and it was supposed to be December.
	So we went in December of 2012 to be there during those days.
	Yeah.
	So on the day we had a number of amazing things go on and we were actually staying at the Mina house right next to the pier on the pyramid, you know place and so I had this vision that night or whatever And it was that I actually there was okay, so I saw all these beings were going around the Great Pyramid.
	And they were all different ET races.
	I don't know why they were going around, but they were.
	And then there was a, um, I, for some reason, I, I guess I teleported or whatever I did into the, what would be the capstone, but it was the very top of the pyramid, the Great Pyramid.
	And I saw Toth there and Toth was wearing the headdress thing.
	And for some reason, talking to me, I'm not, you know, I know it sounds crazy, but he was one of the guys there for sure.
	Yeah.
	So, um, yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
	Like your experience doesn't surprise me because that is one of my experience.
	I've had a number of.
	I've had it in my life.
	A very amazing, wonderful experience.
	Not just there, but in other hotspots and places where what we call ancient sites and ancient stones and stone circles and all of that.
	Yep, that's what my wife said when I took her up to the mountains in the Megaliths down there in Malibu.
	She said, my God, this place feels like Peru, you know, but that's thousands of miles away.
	I don't think I've ever gone up there.
	I've seen it, but I don't, you know, you sent me a picture, so I'd like to hike up there.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, it's a very popular place now, not because of the monuments, but just because Malibu and that whole area has become so populated.
	Sometimes, especially on weekends, it's hard to find parking.
	But I'm just saying, it's changed a lot since I was growing up there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I hope you do go.
	Just be careful, especially in the summertime, it gets really hot.
	Oh, right.
	No, I'll try to go before the summer, actually.
	It gets too hot.
	Yep.
	So okay so you you're saying that um I'm kind of like losing the thread here but the bottom line is that you had some contact you've had this you have this link up with the race from Aldebaran.
	Yeah.
	Did you ever have past life regressions or any past life recall that you know of?
	Okay, since you brought it up, the thing that floored me the most when I went up to the mountains, I think very near you, in Santa Monica, what they call Boney Ridge, above Point Magoo, I was having such a strong, not just deja vu, I was literally flashing back on lucid dreams that I had repeatedly as a kid growing up in Malibu there at Zuma Beach.
	Of, I would like, I'd be out of my body, but I was in my neighborhood, but then things would shift and I would be like, I'd be with the Native Americans, the Chumash Indians.
	Oh no, I have that.
	But then sometimes it would shift and it would be with these other people that, well, the Chumash called them the first people.
	And they were wearing white robes, sort of like Greeks.
	I don't know.
	I just didn't know what to think when I was growing up as a kid.
	I thought it was my imagination, but they were wearing like robes and wearing sandals and they made stone cities and had boats and stuff.
	And it just, anyway.
	I really thought that was in my imagination until 1985 when I walked up there and saw the monuments because part of the thing was when I was in their realm with the first people, was taken more than once to like a temple, a school.
	They would teach you about the universe.
	We call them universities now.
	Back then they called them temples and they would give you the secrets of the universe.
	Anyway, I was taken there and I used to call that when growing up, I thought I called it my night school.
	Oh, lovely.
	Because I would go there Out of body, lucid dreaming.
	I knew exactly where it was.
	I knew where Point Magoo was because I'd see the soldiers down there going through their maneuvers.
	And it was just, you know, I have pretty good orientation skills as far as landmarks.
	So I knew exactly where I was.
	I just didn't know why I was ended up at this Temple with these people and the stuff they were telling me so to answer your question.
	Yeah, and but it's still It's still curious to me why we have to Play these kind of games Instead of it just all be outright right out in the open.
	Why do we have to dig so hard to?
	Other than the fact that like it has to be the war thing that they Here's the analogy.
	This is a terrible analogy, but I'll tell you it this way.
	I've come to this conclusion.
	Just like the Africans that were brought over here against their will on ships, when they were here, especially in the South, it was illegal to teach them to read and write because the slave owners did not want educated slaves because then they would be more difficult to control.
	And I really kind of think that's what's going on here because most people on this planet are illiterate.
	Right.
	You know, so in terms, especially in terms of that, you might call it angelology, literally in that regard.
	But some people are actually, you know, they can't talk about it, but they would understand if someone talked to them about it.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Recall.
	The thing is, though, that I have the same connection to the Chumash and to an Indian tribe here.
	Yeah, I can't explain it, but When I'm walking around, like if I'm, I hike a lot with my dog and stuff in these areas and I have this connection to this piece of land and I believe it's connected to Mu.
	And so anyway, I have this thing where I can time travel, where I go, I guess you call it bi-locate.
	Okay, so I could bi-locate.
	I bi-located to Egypt before I went there.
	And like I was on a street in Los Angeles like Los Angeles kind of proper Olympic Boulevard in fact and it's a big busy street and I was just standing there I was thinking about you know eventually I'm going to Egypt and stuff and all of a sudden I sort of that everything shifted and I saw Egypt all around me and I thought And I almost, you know, like I had to come back because I was going to step off the curb and go across the street kind of thing.
	And then I went to the Luxor Temple in Las Vegas around the same time for a conference or whatever it was.
	And I'd never been there before.
	And I couldn't, I was tripping my brains out looking at the, you know, they have these carved statues and they have this pyramid kind of building and all this kind of stuff.
	And this is in the earlier days.
	Now it's gotten quite souped up, if you want to call it that, the Luxor Pyramid.
	But I have to tell you that it, you know, I really was bi-locating a lot when I was in that building.
	And so, but to get back to the Chumash, yeah, I've always had this weird connection with the land and with going back and tripping back to the time.
	And I feel like this incredible Connection, like I'm, you know, part of that race or whatever it was back in the day.
	So, and I have had, you know, I have lots of past life recall actually.
	Wow.
	Stuff in my life.
	But yeah, so that's very fascinating that you have that and you also lived in the same area.
	Because I have a theory about that.
	I have a theory that people that reincarnate, they have a tendency to want to go back to where they were, you know, in their life.
	And some of them just literally go back to live their next life in the same place.
	Wow.
	And, you know, it's a completely different century and all that kind of stuff.
	Yeah.
	But we're, you know, completing cycles or whatever you want to call it.
	Yeah.
	So did you ever hear about the Chumash Secret Society called the ONTAP?
	A-N-T-A-P?
	I don't think so and no.
	Yeah well I'm not surprised they are a secret society and I only found out about them because when I was living in Malibu I was given an artifact and it turns out that
	It is exactly like, because I know you're familiar with Sitchin's work, you saw how the cylinder seals, usually those are made of stone, but sometimes it's clay and you roll it out in wet clay or wax and it makes an impression and those were owned by the priests or the kings or the royalty, okay?
	I was given one of those that was made by this secret society in Malibu or the shoemasher yeah by by a movie stars kid that I knew and he found it when he was a kid and he gave it to me and I'm like whoa this is crazy.
	Turns out when you roll it across wet clay it makes the belt stars of Orion.
	Oh cool.
	Yeah, I know, but it took me years to figure that out.
	And even more years to understand who they were because it's almost so obvious you can't even see it.
	It took me, this really freaked me out.
	It is the House of On.
	A-N.
	Orion.
	On.
	O-N is also the name of Orion.
	They literally, the on top, were the priests of the House of Orion.
	This is why they consider themselves to be separate from the rest of us.
	And I'm still not privy to everything that they have done or are doing.
	But when I was given that, it was, let's just say, you know, you talk about biolocating and like, I think they call it psychometry, where you could feel something in an object.
	Well, that object obviously had a lot of history to it.
	And when I I was given this thing and I literally cherished it and looked at it and respected it.
	I couldn't rest until I found out what was the story behind it and it led me to talk to Chumash elders who were absolutely, the two I spoke to about it, were absolutely freaked out that not only did I have this thing, But more importantly, why did I have this?
	Right.
	You know, the first guy actually was in Agoura.
	I went over one morning to his place and he said to me, You cannot tell anyone you have that.
	I'm like, why?
	And he says, because there are people in my tribe who would kill you to own that.
	I'm like, well, hey, hey, hey, slow down, man.
	You know, you can have it.
	He goes, no, no, no, no.
	I mean, he didn't even want to touch it.
	His hair was standing up on his arm.
	And he goes, no, no, you don't understand.
	You don't know who the Antap are, do you?
	And I said, no.
	And he starts telling me and I'm like, Really?
	And he says, yes, they are the only ones that the Chumash fear.
	I mean, they fear them.
	And I'm like, but they were part of your society.
	He said, no.
	No, they would tell us things to do.
	And the reason they were feared is like they said, if they said, burn the village, nobody questioned.
	I was like, why would they do that?
	Because they knew the village was infested with disease and it had to be burned.
	And of course, a lot of people who didn't know that would get really upset or scared by the fact that, you know, So anyway, I'm just telling there's a lot more to the history.
	Well, I mean, I don't know if how much you knew about the land around here, but I've lived here now for a really long time now.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I can tell you that a lot of what people think are hills are actually pyramids.
	Yeah, I've noticed that.
	This place is packed with pyramids.
	And you know, even in Santa Barbara has some of the same stuff like that.
	So the thing is that there is this, what do you call it, like there's Okay, so we, I was in the fires.
	Do you remember the fires that came?
	I live in, right now I'm in Calabasas, okay?
	Yeah.
	I was in Westlake, now I'm in Calabasas.
	I spent a year in Tahoe, came back, I couldn't handle the snow.
	But anyway, And I was born in Northern California, but for some reason I keep coming down to this same area, which goes between Santa Barbara, if I was to tell you where the area goes, and then the south of Malibu.
	That's kind of like a circumference.
	Anyway, so it's like this incredible power place and Oh, I know.
	So, I was in the fires, and the fire came up to, like, literally this piece of land that is, in essence, Westlake Village, and never crossed it, never burned.
	I mean, literally, like, you know.
	I mean, other places, it went certain places, but it did not go into Westlake.
	Understood.
	Yeah, I've lived through that.
	I grew up there, so I know what that's like.
	It's freaky.
	It's scary.
	Yeah, so it was literally on the door of where my apartment at the time was when that happened.
	And I knew exactly what to do.
	And we drove to Santa Barbara and we had a lovely time during the fires because of that.
	You know, I mean, it's insane.
	People welcomed us, people gave us free drinks, you know, because we were refugees from the fire.
	And they had had the fire the year before, so they understood, you know.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	Well, it was kind of cool, but... I still have family there.
	My brother lives in Newberry Park.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, and my sister and mom live in Ventura.
	Right.
	But I've lost touch with all my friends in Malibu at this point.
	It's just a memory.
	But I kind of feel like the only way I'm going to be able to tell this story is through a video documentary.
	Not me, but actually, you know, showing people.
	I've got to figure out a way.
	I'm not a documentary.
	Tarion, whatever.
	Hey, I know you've done it, but it's a lot of work, especially for one person.
	So I'm trying to figure out putting together like a trailer, and then hopefully somebody will pick that up and go the next step.
	Okay, I don't want to get in trouble, but when I came back from Hong Kong, I did one show about Malibu UFOs with Discovery Channel, and it was all about like trying to scare people.
	It was really stupid.
	But I did it.
	And then the next time Hollywood called, it was...
	I can't say the name of the family, but you would recognize the name immediately.
	They contacted me and said, oh, we want you to come on our show.
	And I go, you guys, um, nobody takes you seriously.
	I don't want to be sorry, but I mean, thank you, but I take my work very seriously.
	And if I, if I come on your show, people are going to think I'm completely not.
	You're basically, oh, and she's like, oh no, we'll be very respectful.
	And I go, thank you.
	Do you understand you have a reputation of being like just not credible at all?
	So I passed on that.
	I just, if anything, it actually felt like a bit of a trick or a trap.
	Yeah.
	A test.
	Yeah.
	You know, to see if that was going to fall for it just for the fame and not, not a lot of money, but it just like, Oh, you want to be on TV with the so-called celebrities?
	No, I don't.
	I want to tell, I want people to take this seriously.
	It's a, it's part of our history.
	I'm just struggling to try and get the information out in a way that people were going to.
	I appreciate part of their heritage, our heritage, that's been overlooked or buried or somehow like... It's being kept from us.
	That really pisses me off.
	I hate it when people... Yes.
	Well, it's one thing to lie to people, but if you literally take a piece of their heritage from them, that is criminal on a whole nother level, if you ask me.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think, you know, it's part of the reason I think some of us do the missions we do.
	Yeah.
	Because we do have these connections to the earth and to these places and to a history, right?
	So it's our history as well.
	So it's not just trying to expose the secrets.
	So I'm trying to expose the secrets of the past and the future.
	Okay, the future, yeah.
	As it happens.
	So, it's a fascinating endeavor, you know?
	Yeah.
	So, how can I get you to talk a little?
	I know I'm keeping you for a while, but can I get you to talk a little bit about some of the things you were talking about?
	So, one of the things I really liked about that show, and I know it's kind of Gross, the way it's described.
	But yeah, this thing about, you know, this Adam and Eve story, which I have this issue with, because I have seen, you know, that it's a story, and that people think, take it literally, and they really think that that's the beginning of humanity and all this crazy shit.
	And so, you know, I don't know if you ever read the Ashiana Dean Voyager books?
	Not yet.
	Okay.
	Well, that would be a lot of fun for you because you have such great background to bring to it.
	But at any rate, I've read him a few times and I met her and interviewed her for six hours.
	Wow.
	And I traveled with her and her group to India and had some amazing experiences there.
	So, Getting back to the subject, I happen to know about the genetic engineering side of what they were trying to convey with that story that they put in the Bible that was basically a story kind of for children and that has been so hidden by what you call the rabbis and all this kind of stuff.
	I'm happy for you to tell your interpretation of the things that you uncovered about that.
	And one of my intentions here, I'll just be open about it, is I don't even know, do you know who Rwano Savin is?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, he is, see, well, I'm not going to get in the whole thing, but let me just say this much, and you can just, if you don't want to agree, it doesn't matter.
	So the point being is that I've met him several times, had several interactions, and I believe firmly without any equivocation, and I've also got proof, that he is 107 is JFK Jr.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	There's another 107 called Wayne Willett.
	He's his sidekick, and he's, I think, to some degree, a bodyguard.
	He plays him when he has to, but basically that's who we're talking about.
	So what happens is he does these religious rants constantly.
	I'm confused.
	Are you talking about Wayne Willett or JFK Jr.?
	JFK Jr.
	Is that why he's hiding his face all the time?
	Yeah.
	I mean, well, he believes he's protecting himself and his family and that goes way back and why they tried to kill him in the first place.
	But, you know, I mean, I have a ton of information on my site and I've had done interviews about this and he knows I talk about him and he knows I'm one of the few people that, you know, Outs him.
	So the reason I'm to get back to the subject is he he does these Bible stories constantly and he acts like they're real and he acts like they are what they are according to the Bible and the bullshit they've been taught, which is just to reinforce the lies that we've been told.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so that's why I want you to talk about it because I think your interpretation, and I actually sent him a link to your interview.
	I'm sorry, I don't remember the woman that you were on.
	Oh, Nish, yeah, the Cosmic Salon.
	Yeah, so I don't, her name is Nish?
	Yeah, she calls herself, that's not her name, that's just a stage name.
	Well, anyway, you know, she did a lovely job, and so I sent that to him, but who knows, you know, probably the NSA does, reads all those texts.
	I don't, he never answers me anymore.
	He did once, but anyway, so I'd like you to tell your story for my audience, because my audience, you know, the ones that didn't go up, because I actually posted your interview with her so they could listen, but you can never guarantee that someone will listen to that.
	So anyway, could you tell your interpretation of the Adam-Eve story from the point of view and bring in the rabbis and what they really intended?
	Because it's going to blow the minds of a lot of people that watch, and some of them might hate me even more.
	I hope not.
	You know, for doing this, but go ahead.
	And that's what happened when I was speaking to George about it on Coast to Coast AM.
	I warned everybody.
	I said, hey, if there's any kids in the room, Please ask them to leave or turn off your radio while I'm talking about this because it's going to scare the crap out of these kids, you know?
	So, anyway.
	And I got yelled at too.
	I forget the guy's name, the other producer that does that.
	He yelled at me twice when I've done shows with him.
	Anyway, I'm blank.
	It's not important.
	It doesn't matter.
	We shouldn't talk about it.
	But the bottom line is this.
	Part of my...
	Deep dive into angelology led me to these alternative so-called Hebrew mythology about Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden, and that the being that approached them was not named Satan, and he was not described as a serpent.
	He was described as a fallen angel, and his name is Samael.
	So when I saw that, I started reporting it on my website and on my show.
	I was on KGRA at the time, and it really got a lot of people's attention because it finally explains what the forbidden fruit is.
	Obviously, it's not an apple.
	If it ever was, that never made any sense to anybody.
	Why would eating an apple be a cause for punishment?
	It's not a sin, right?
	Except God told us not to do this, right?
	Supposedly God told us not to eat the apple.
	The Hebrew mythology explains it this way.
	Samael approached Eve and he had a young boy with him.
	I'm going to assume it's a toddler, but he wasn't just a regular human and it'll become obvious why.
	He was clearly one of Samael's children, a son of Samael.
	And he says to Eve, would you please watch my son while I'm gone?
	Well, she obviously agreed.
	He leaves, Adam shows up, the boy, this son of Samuel, this child, starts crying uncontrollably, screaming, having, you know how kids do, sometimes they'll just have a fit.
	Allegedly, Adam killed the child, and then Adam and Eve ate the child, according to this myth.
	When Samuel returned and said, where is my son?
	They said, we don't know.
	And that's when things got completely nuts.
	Allegedly, the child, the son of Sam-El, was now inside.
	He'd been eaten and consumed by Adam and Eve, started speaking from inside them to his father, Sam-El, saying, Father, I'm in them now.
	I will control them from the inside.
	You control them from the outside.
	That's not the whole story.
	If you want to read the rest of it, just go to robertstanley.substack.com and click on Angelology.
	That's part of a master file and it's a top story there.
	It's called The Forbidden Fruit.
	Naturally.
	And you'll get all the details there, because it just gets weirder from there.
	But again, it wasn't just this Hebrews that weren't the only ones that had this story they never wanted to tell anybody, apparently.
	The Islamists, the Muslims, also believe this, and they have their own version of it.
	It's very, very, very similar.
	So, the thing is, most people also don't know, according to Hebrew mythology, Adam had sex with Samuel's sister, Lilith.
	And she bore him many monsters.
	That's the way they put it.
	So I don't know what that means, other than the fact that there was a lot of weird stuff going on.
	Now, I was talking about this recently, and I said, you know, this would have kind of explained some people say, allegedly, that Samuel was also had impregnated Eve, and that she bore him a child named Cain.
	And then his brother was named Abel.
	And you know what happened?
	Cain killed Abel.
	And if you put Cain And able together, you get cannibal.
	Hmm.
	So cannibalism is something that is, to me, would be a sin.
	I guess, you know, or that would be forbidden, I hope.
	But it's happened many times for many reasons on this planet.
	And if you wanted to get some... Here's the other thing.
	Supposedly our ancestors were these radiant beings of light, the shining ones, truly Anunnaki, until that something happened that brought us down.
	That is an event, again, I know you're saying something accurate when you say that this is an analogy of something or some things that happened that triggered this so-called fall from a higher state.
	And believe me, I can't imagine anything that would really take a light being down further than cannibalism like that.
	Killing a child?
	Eating it?
	I mean, good Lord, that's... Well, I mean, with the child trafficking issue we're having now, you know, and the fact that the way people talk about it, and also the objective, and that's why I also direct this at the White Hats and Juan, is that they want to kill The perpetrators, right?
	They want to catch them and kill them, obviously.
	Right, right.
	But the trouble with this is it involves reptilian DNA.
	And the reptilian DNA is now, you know, everyone, they have children and those children have children and this has been going on now for eons.
	And so what happens is they get these proclivities and they, in a sense, they view the ones with less Reptilian DNA as lesser beings, and they also want to, you know, seduce, feed on them, and kill them, and use them as food, and all that kind of stuff.
	So, this is some kind of cycle that got put into place.
	Now, according to Ashyana Deen and the, what are called the Guardian Races, What this story is really about is genetically engineering humanity.
	And so the way Juan tells it, he says that Eve had sex with Satan, I guess is the way, or the devil, or whatever they call that.
	And that Cain was their son.
	So they are aliens, in essence, and we are the humans.
	So There's this whole dichotomy that goes on but if you go back in the centuries this was actually because and I'll tell the story but you know again I don't care People want to believe it, don't believe it, read it in her book, whatever.
	But the thing is that the idea of this was that there were many seedings of humanity coming to this planet, but they would keep dying off because they kept being attacked by Draco, Reptilians, and Greys, and other predatory ET off-world species.
	And so they wouldn't defend themselves.
	They were too peaceful and peace-loving.
	So what happens is they went to the reptilians and said, would you contribute your DNA to this seeding that we're going to be doing here?
	And so they did.
	But the trouble is they didn't.
	They gave a certain special group, which were the kings that they assigned to be the kings.
	Extra reptilian DNA, which they also had.
	Now you have to go back to who were the Anunnaki.
	The Anunnaki were a break-off rebel tribe, if you will, from the Pleiadians.
	And what happened to them was they were invaded by the Draco reptilians Who took them over and turned them into a hybrid race.
	So the Anunnaki are actually a hybrid race of reptilian humanoids.
	And that's why when you see the temple walls in Iraq, Iran, and Egypt, they're depicted as very tall beings, but sometimes they're reptilian and sometimes they're humanoid, because they're both.
	so this is where people don't understand so but what i'm trying to say here is that what has now happened is that this group of reptilian you know the blue bloods so to speak the leaders of industry they all have this extra aggressive
	sort of traits and that's why they rise to the top in these professions and then they try to control the humans below them some of whom if you get into Enki and Enlil that story the ones that were in the Middle East who were I guess governed by Enlil
	We're told to be obedient and to basically follow orders and those are the ones that become sort of administrators of the humans and the ones that grew up in Africa that were under Enki who was much more benevolent and you know also consorted and contributed his own DNA to the groups.
	At the time, so then what happened is they were more rebel rebellious and I've got my book is on the wall behind me.
	It's called rebel gene on purpose because I believe those of us that have the awakened genetics, the rebel genes that we are the rebels and.
	It's not like you're stuck in one group.
	You can actually go from being an administrator group into having, you know, rediscovering, reawakening your rebel genes, but it's a process.
	So that's a very short explanation of everything, but that's why I wanted you to bring this up because it's very important, I think, that some of these myths
	that come from down from and even the rabbis are hiding it all you know from the people and so they're nothing but lies lies lies and they live in this fantasy world and by the way the Anunnaki did not create humans but they did genetically engineer them and they limited our lifespan because we were growing too fast and we were going to outstrip them in terms of terms of intelligence and intelligence and development So they and they couldn't control us anymore.
	So they limited our lives not by putting a frequency fence as the saying goes into our DNA.
	And it's probably the partition between our junk DNA and our conventional DNA.
	Yeah, like that.
	But we are now breaking through all that, the humans here on earth now.
	So it's vitally important that these truths come out and that the lies are exposed.
	And I'm sorry to say, but the Bible is full of lies because a lot of these Whatever you call these people that wrote the Bible and were inculcated with all of the teachings of that time, brought their prejudices with them and put them into the characters in the Bible and so on and so forth.
	So, this is what we're dealing with.
	Okay, so a lot of people talk about Khazarian Mafia.
	Yes.
	I'm familiar with that.
	And turns out, from my research, if you trace it back, they are the sons of Cain.
	Sons and daughters, they are the bloodline of Cain.
	And Cain was, when you say, I know you said this, but the word Satan is actually a title.
	It actually means adversary.
	That's all it means.
	Um, and so clearly Sam Al was an adversary.
	He was doing something that was revolutionary or adversarial, sort of like when we go back to the way you said about Inky, he was definitely violating some of the protocols.
	And, um, so, and this is why we have this, uh, ruling elite that feel that they have the authority to lie, cheat, kill, lie, cheat, steal, and kill.
	With impunity at this point.
	So this goes back to what I was saying before when I got here in 2022.
	It was kind of shocking.
	I couldn't understand why all the military of the Earth would go to the Levant, specifically the Valley of Megiddo.
	I don't see why that... I mean, there's nothing there as far as I could tell.
	You said portals, okay.
	So the thing is, Essenes actually had a...
	I have been there.
	So the Essenes said that at the end, the final battle, that just like in the beginning, the gods would be standing shoulder to shoulder with men fighting each other.
	Now that made sense to me.
	I'm like, wait a second, okay.
	It started in the Levant.
	The crazy crap that's going on currently, all these so-called wars, it never ended.
	But it has to end.
	It has to end somewhere, sometime.
	And it figures, doesn't it make sense that it would end where it began?
	To really close the loop on this deal?
	Well, there is a whole story that, you know, I have this whistleblower called Cameron Failey, and he is from the Kurdish line.
	And he was, he and his family consult in the city of London and are experts in the banking system.
	So he suddenly has started having these, I don't know what you would call it, but you know, these views of Nibiru and this theory about the coming of Nibiru and all this.
	And he completely kind of like changed his life, started writing books about it and eventually had him on my show.
	But he knew, like the Arab peoples know, about this coming of the Mahdi.
	I call it the Mahdi, they call it the Mahdi or whatever they call it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Mahdi, I know.
	But it's their Jesus figure kind of person.
	That's supposed to bring peace to the area.
	Okay.
	Right.
	And that's what the, right now the Israelis bombed the Iranian consulate.
	That was a clear act of war.
	They wanted war.
	Okay.
	That's what they want.
	They want war.
	And I got, you know, this is not an accident.
	This is not even tit for tat, but they are planning To try to bring the destruction of the Dome of the Rock and then the building of the New Temple and the whole nine yards.
	I mean, they're trying.
	One of the things about the Anunnaki, and they're still alive and actually I've got stories about that in Israel.
	About them walking around.
	I'm not surprised.
	Did you ever hear about Barry Shamish?
	That sounds familiar.
	He's a famous Israeli journalist who wasn't into this field whatsoever, just a regular journalist.
	But they started getting stories about women in their homes in the afternoon in Israel.
	um forget if it was Jerusalem or not but anyway they're these big tall beings started coming and visiting their houses and just walking inside their houses as if they owned them kicking their dogs out the way and basically walking around just looking around and then leaving And they had multiple of these things going on, so he decided to investigate.
	So he did.
	And basically he popularized and mentioned the story and so on and so forth.
	But I had, you know, sort of psychic information come to me about the Anunnaki in Israel.
	And being underground and also involved in Demona and all of this.
	So the Israelis are, whether they like it or not, are run by the Anunnaki.
	And I even had proof of this in this very interesting whistleblower called Major Solomon Berg, who came forward and was With a Yeti that we call, um, they called Sasquatch.
	Who was, did you hear about the story?
	No.
	Okay, that the Air Force, um, you know, nabbed, kidnapped, or whatever you want to call it, and, uh, got this one, um, being, this, this Sasquatch in the Pacific Northwest.
	And this particular scientist, it was in a, in a very, a very interpreter of, animal languages and you know he was also I guess telepathic so he could communicate with cats and various things so he they brought him in to communicate with this Sasquatch and he developed a telepathic relationship with him and it's a whole big story and it's I've done three interviews with him and then he disappeared.
	Wow.
	And, but the thing is that what happened part way through was that he started telling me that they took the Sasquatch and they left America, he and his team, and they brought the Sasquatch underground in Egypt.
	I mean, I mean in Israel.
	And they built a complex under there that looked like nature and all that kind of thing.
	And the two of them had lived in there because the Americans were trying to do too many experiments on the Sasquatch.
	So then what happened was the Sasquatch came under the notice of the Anunnaki who are running Israel.
	And came forward with the information that, going back in history, these Sasquatch kind of Yeti beings, who are space-faring race, they're not from here, their big arch enemy is the Anunnaki.
	Oh good lord.
	And so then they had to leave Israel because the Sasquatch was no longer comfortable being under that command.
	So they went back to America and the saga continues.
	It actually sounds like a movie.
	And there's some guys on the internet that are trying to pretend that.
	It's a lie now and they're, you know, and they've even got some, supposedly Solomon Berg might have died, then supposedly showed up and said it was all a lie.
	But it doesn't matter because you, you know, when you have whistleblowers, you know that at some point if the people get to them close enough.
	Oh yeah.
	And get them scared enough, they will deny everything and that's what they do.
	So that's very common and that didn't, Changed my mind whatsoever.
	But anyway...
	The reason I'm bringing it up is because the Anunnaki are very involved with Israel and with what decisions Israel makes.
	And so these decisions, like they knew about October 7th for a full year.
	They have a planning and they have AI and they have, I mean, they even came forward six months before and had one of their top technical technicians, whatever, say that they were king of AI.
	That's what they said in a newspaper article.
	I have it.
	Wow.
	So how insane to come forward and boast about that and then six months later pretend like you didn't know something, right?
	Right.
	So this is what we're living in.
	We're living in a plan.
	It's a plan and they are rolling it out.
	That's for sure.
	Yep.
	So in the book that I provide, if you read, there's a couple different pages.
	I'll send you the link.
	It's on my website.
	It's called The Shining Ones.
	Okay.
	And it's by Christian O'Brien.
	He's deceased now.
	And to me, it's light years beyond what Sitchin wrote.
	But the point is, it says in there that Yahweh, Jehovah, was definitely an Anunnaki who had kind of gone off the rails and was... I'm glad to say that.
	But once that particular Anunnaki and his cabal, his mafia, had trained this group of mercenaries to do their bidding, His bidding.
	The original Jehovah was pulled out of the picture, or for whatever reason, he's gone.
	So they put another Anunnaki in his place, supposedly who's more benevolent.
	But to me, that sounds like good cop, bad cop.
	So it's kind of a long read, but if you jumped ahead to that portion, I'll find the page for you.
	It's really weird because nobody wants to talk about this.
	They just don't want to talk about it.
	No, and the rabbis, I'm sorry to say, they are misleading people, like, rabidly.
	So, I'm very annoyed with them.
	And I really want the truth to come out about all of this, because, you know, the lies are just rampant.
	And one of the things is to do with what they teach, you know, behind the scenes also.
	You may know about this.
	The Israelis, they teach them that they're the superior race and all this crazy shit.
	Well, that goes back to what they were taught.
	Okay, by these so-called Anunnaki gods.
	Angels.
	They're fallen angels, okay?
	That's, this is again what, why I said, part of my path was to understand angelology.
	Not to judge it, but just to look at it as a repository of Information that has been hidden From us about about these beings.
	They really don't just like the book of Enoch In fact what we have now is probably not the original one And more importantly just like Toth Enoch was probably the same guy wrote supposedly wrote hundreds of books and where did he get the information?
	He was he was literally copying books that the Anunnaki had showed him according to the book the shining ones it's just It's like somebody took a pot, if our history was a big pot, and they just threw it on the ground and boom, it shattered into a thousand pieces.
	And it's a huge chore to try to pull them all together and try to make sense of it all.
	It's just, it's a crime.
	It's really a crime in my opinion.
	Right.
	Now, I'm going to let you go.
	We're going to close this down, but I want to say one thing.
	Yeah.
	Does it ever occur to you, you know, what the reason they were watching you from the very beginning and very early on, aside from even your contact or semi-contact experiences or whatnot, or bloodline, is that one of the things they do, and they've been doing this for a long time, they actually track When they are interested in somebody, they then figure out what they're going to do in the future.
	Yeah.
	And then they work to prevent it, you know?
	Yeah.
	Um, so it could, that could also be what's going on.
	No, no.
	And that was told to us actually, when we first started, when I met my wife, she started the magazine.
	I'm working with her.
	She introduced me to this guy, the German Aldebaran kind of guy.
	He said, yeah, we're reading your thoughts from space or whatever, and we know what's going to happen.
	And there's a plan to basically nuke Los Angeles, but we're going to prevent it.
	And he says, but.
	And we also know in the future that two of you in this room, and he wouldn't say who, but he said two of you in this room are going to be very influential in the future in a good way.
	And like, I was having a very hard time with all of this stuff, but it turned out it was my wife and I. Yeah.
	And nobody would have guessed it because, you know, I really, my life was not, I wasn't doing well and I was very confused about What I was going to do with myself, or more importantly, why am I so obsessed with this information?
	And what am I supposed to do with it?
	And ultimately the door opened, I went through it, and here we are.
	But I know it's not over yet.
	But I'm also trying to be very cautious about the way I provide information publicly because this is no joke, okay?
	You know, criminals don't like to be exposed or opposed publicly.
	They just don't.
	And this is an organized crime syndicate here on this world and off this world.
	So for some little guy like me to come out, or even a person like yourself, with a much bigger production value, It doesn't, they don't like it.
	And they do try to stop us.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't always work.
	No, but you know, it is part of the game.
	They definitely do mess with you constantly.
	I mean, my website's been taken down so many times I can't count now.
	Wow.
	But aside from that, you know, I've had other, I mean, we got even in the early days of Camelot, When I, um, I was only had a partner for two and a half of the 20 years I've been doing this, but, um, we got constant flat tires, constant things happening to our car, constant things, you know, going on.
	So they were messing with us from the very beginning.
	Um, there's no doubt about it.
	Yeah.
	One point we were driving in Switzerland up in the Alps in this old Audi station wagon car that had been checked out thoroughly in England.
	And we were going up this incredibly windy steep road.
	We got up to the top where this, there's this little, I don't know if it's Grindelwald or what it was called, but anyway, it's this little Swiss city in the top of the mountain.
	And we drove into a parking lot and one of the wheels just fell off the car.
	And it was, we brought it to the garage and he said it was cut.
	It was just cut perfectly.
	Yeah, so had it fallen off while we were going up the windy road, we might not be here today.
	Because we would go off a cliff, you know?
	Yeah, more than likely.
	There were big cliffs, not little ones.
	No kidding.
	There's all kinds of things like that, you know?
	I know.
	And so, but I think we also, on the other hand, have, you know, if you want to call it angels, we have people looking out for us, both on this planet and off the planet.
	Yeah, I know, but you don't want to abuse that privilege.
	I don't.
	I don't take it for granted.
	It's like, you know, I'm not going to go swim in shark infested waters and go, hey, protect me!
	No, I try to be, you know, Careful, but there's no doubt whatsoever that this is going on the way it is and that we are getting in a more heightened state now on the planet.
	You know, it seems that it's not just an illusion that it's that way.
	Well, the energy is picking up because the planet, our solar system, I mean, you must have heard about this, the photon belt that we've literally moved.
	It's always happening, but as we orbit around the galaxy, our planet kind of does this number, like a merry-go-round.
	Yeah.
	And so when it hits that midpoint, it's in a much more energized, there's more light and energy right there, and we're transiting through it.
	NASA says it's going to take a few hundred years.
	The people in India know about it.
	You know, it's part of their Vedic lore.
	They understand that this is, it's not astrology.
	We're talking about space weather.
	And obviously the consciousness is energy.
	So when there's more energy coming through, it's going to break down the barriers and increase that level of, it's not wisdom, but it just consciousness in general is going to flow a lot better or more of it is flowing through us at this point.
	Yeah, in a sense, the force is with us in terms of revealing truth.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That's my upcoming... Okay, look, I've never written a memoir, but yeah.
	Did I show you that?
	Anyway, yeah.
	So when I was in Hong Kong, people started calling me Jedi Master.
	And I actually was given a full costume and a lightsaber and all that stuff.
	It's a long story.
	But the bottom line is I realized, wait a minute, there's some truth to that.
	They wouldn't be just calling me that for a gag, although it was funny.
	I realized that this was sort of like, hey, don't you remember?
	There's this group, and no, we don't call ourselves Jedi, but in Egypt they did.
	That was part of an initiation.
	Raising the Jed pillar literally was a Kundalini awakening, much like what happened to me in the Great Pyramid there.
	So, anyway, just bottom line, since you brought it up, yeah, Jedi Order is real, but it's been fictionalized, like everything else, by Hollywood, so that people think, oh, that's not real.
	Yeah, on the one hand, but on the other hand, they realize that on a subliminal level, they realize they're being told truth.
	Yeah, predictive programming, that whole thing.
	So, it still has a purpose because otherwise they forget about it completely.
	So, at least their kids run around thinking they want to have lightsabers and they want to be on the good side and they want to fight.
	Yeah, but the Jedi Order, right?
	I'll just tell you straight out.
	It's originally called the Melchizedek Order, and that just means King of Righteousness.
	And no, they don't go around chopping people up with swords, but it's about defending divinity throughout all of creation.
	Especially against the dark side, which is, you know, destructive, evil, whatever you want to call it.
	That dissonant, actually, I like the word dissonance because that's, it's the opposite of resonance.
	And that's what they do, you know, and that's what we do.
	We, you know, we, it's, we don't need a weapon.
	We are the weapon.
	We carry that resonant energy with us wherever we go, whatever we do.
	And if they don't like it, that's too bad.
	Exactly.
	So anyway, it's been a lot of fun talking to you and I hope you'll come back on my show sometime in the future when you feel like you want to say something.
	And I'm happy to get all your links so we can put them on the page with the show so that people can visit you and read your books.
	Thank you, Carrie.
	I appreciate that very much.
	I'm glad you're well.
	Oh, thank you.
	Stay that way.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	I'm glad you're well.
	Thanks.
	All right, everyone.
	Thank you for watching and we'll be back with another show in the future.
	Okay.
	Take care.

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