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Feb. 6, 2024 - Project Camelot
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TONY GOSLING: UK REPORTER ON BILDERBERG: WORLD SITU
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Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and I'm here with Tony Gosling and he is a former, I believe, BBC reporter and investigative reporter and BBC reporter and investigative reporter and And he has been on my show over the years, but we haven't talked in quite some time.
So it's wonderful to have you on the show again, Tony.
So much has happened since we last connected, I think.
So why don't you just talk about what you've been up to, give yourself a brief introduction, and let's just get into it.
Well, yes, so I was a radio journalist at the BBC in 1989-90 right through to 1990.
This is like an eon ago for many people, but it was a fascinating era, Kerry, because the BBC had been an extremely good organisation up till the early 90s and the Thatcher government, at the bidding of Victor Rothschild, who was still alive in the 80s, Said to Marmaduke Hussey, who was the BBC Chairman in 1987, can you sack the Director-General?
So the BBC Director-General was sacked by Marmaduke Hussey, who was the Chairman.
His wife was the Queen's Chief Lady-in-Waiting.
So this is how the feudal system works, yeah?
And, you know, tracing this decision to get rid of the Chief Editor of the BBC, who'd been very independent-minded, Very critical of the Thatcher government.
You know, it was Victor Rothschild.
Victor Rothschild is the fifth man.
He was after Burgess, Maclean, Philby, Anthony Blunt, Victor Rothschild.
If people are interested in the whole Cambridge Spy thing, Roland Perry, the Australian writer, who's now, he's kind of semi-retired.
He's still writing, but he teaches at Melbourne University Journalism.
Roland Perry's book, The Fifth Man on Victor Rothschild's Life, is an unbelievable, rip-roaring read.
He had so much trouble in London, he went back to Australia after he'd written it, but because Victor was a Labour peer, he was in the House of Lords, he was advisor to Edward Heath, Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher, all of the top government prime ministers were being advised by, you know, not by the Rothschild family, by Victor specifically.
And he was a Russian spy, you know, so it was not a Russian spy, it was a Soviet spy, just to get the terminology.
Anyway, so, you know, the BBC had changed so much in the time I was there.
I could see, you know, you're looking around, the wallpaper's changing, the best people are being pushed out, elbowed out, and nepotism was really starting, you know, so the actual standard of the production staff was going Off a cliff, really.
But whilst we were still there, there was a fantastic amount of sharing of knowledge and journalism and a lot of honesty amongst the people who were working in London at the time.
And this was just radio I was working in.
So Kerry, you know, it was a terrific experience.
And I think for many people who are just kind of doing things like blogging and alternative media now, There is something quite... I mean, we had the biggest audience of any radio station in London, called Greater London Radio.
And when you're broadcasting on a station like that, you know you've got to get it right.
You've got nearly a million people most of the time listening to, you know, with the radio on in the background.
And so you want to, you know, your reputation is made or failed on whether you've actually checked your facts and whether you've got the nails to know.
What you're saying is correct.
So anyway, we were, you know, we were nobbled.
You know, we were nobbled.
The BBC was nobbled.
All sorts of people from private industry came in, started to just, and many Zionists actually.
I had a senior producer suddenly take over who was a raving Zionist.
And, you know, she was from the private world.
So we were all public servants, effectively civil servants.
So that's, that was my, you know, that's my big sort of introduction to mass media.
And so back in, it was around about 2008, the time of the financial crisis, I sat down with some friends and we said, look, this is absurd.
You know, what's going on here is the whole destruction of democracy, the principle of democracy, the idea that the people should have a government that can actually do things to You know, that aren't commercially viable.
For example, setting up things like youth centres, running infrastructure at cost, things like the government run railways, the electricity supply, the water supply.
Now it's all, of course, being sold off.
But we were part of an era where these things actually worked.
And so I started in 2008, I started a weekly radio show here in Bristol.
in England, which is an interesting city in that this is where John Cabot set off from in 1497 to so-called discover North America.
And that was the beginning, of course, of this new world order, you know, or the United States.
And now, of course, we're getting that in Europe.
We're getting the United States of Europe.
So it's an interesting spot to be, Bristol.
And we've got a very good, I think, alternative culture here.
based around the summer festival scene.
You know, Glastonbury, which has become horrifically commercialised, but there are lots and lots of travelling people, vehicle dwellers, they sometimes call themselves, but people who are sort of mobile, and they tend to winter out in Bristol.
And then spend the summer on the road.
So it's, I think, a terrific city to live.
We've got such a lot of, you know, it's a temple of port as well for its sins, like Edinburgh and places like that, and London, of course.
And so it's got a lot of history, but it's also got a terrific, I think anyway, terrific cultural life, Kerry.
OK, so now, as far as where you are right now with the world scene, because we agreed that we want to talk about that, why don't you just start wherever you'd like to start with that?
Look, you know, we've got all these crises, OK?
Here in the UK, one of the big things is the migrant crisis.
So we've got something like every three years another million people coming into the country.
Many of them just on student visas, or because the wages that businesses would have to pay them are less, so they get a visa to come in.
But many also coming across the Channel in these organised crime boats, many of them dying.
Obviously they're not dying just in the Channel, they're dying in the Mediterranean too, they're dying off the coast of Portugal and Spain.
But there is this A tacit agreement, it seems, in the EU countries and in the UK to allow organised crime to just traffic these people around.
And of course, it would be easy to stop them if they wanted to.
They don't want to because this is bringing down wages.
It's also like two fingers up to Brexit.
So you're saying, well, you know, you've had Brexit, but look, all these migrants are like goods and services.
We can just move them around wherever we want.
Well, okay, what about all the hotels being packed with Ukrainians, for example, in England?
Well, yeah, it's not just Ukrainians.
Yes, Ukrainians, obviously.
I've noticed myself quite a lot of Ukrainians around.
Not so many Palestinians, funnily enough, even though, of course, they are in a far, far worse and more difficult situation over there.
But that's just one crisis.
I'm giving you an example of the migrant crisis.
We've also got the cost-of-living crisis, the economic crisis.
We've got a crisis in Ukraine, and we've had a COVID crisis, you could call all these things.
But there is, I think, a very important pattern that's developed, very obvious to me, through all of these things, and that is this, summed up best by this term, Accelerationists.
So, the Accelerationists are a group, it's a philosophy really, it's the sort of thing which is embraced by people like Yuval Noah Harari, Although he doesn't really broadcast it much, I would just suggest, you know, that there is this, it's a kind of, it's where extreme communism and the far right meet.
The idea is we are just going to tell the public what to do, but what they're accelerating is interesting.
The accelerationists want to bring about the end of the world.
Well, they say that, but really what this is, is the biggest crisis possible.
So, the accelerationist philosophy is, you create a crisis and you make sure that the solution, rather than sorting the crisis out, makes it worse.
So, the obvious thing with COVID is bringing along the jabs.
So, you've got an illness of some sort, it's clicking away, Some people are dying.
I mean, some people don't believe there even was.
I certainly do believe that there was a virus or something.
Yeah, okay, well, as far as we're concerned, it's the bioweapon.
But yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, the bioweapon, Wuhan, Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance.
This, to me, the most fascinating thing about COVID, and maybe we can agree on this, is it shows the cooperation between the Pentagon funding and the top level of the Chinese, you know.
So these two superpowers are supposed to be at loggerheads.
They're not, are they?
Not at the top.
No, they're not.
They're cooperating.
Well, no, because we're run by a new world order, or they're attempting through Biden.
He's their puppet.
But what I want to ask you about actually is... No, just on the accelerationism, you've got to understand, The vaccine is the solution, yeah, but it isn't, right?
It's going to make things worse.
So this is another example of, I mean, for example, in the United States and the UK, they're now starting to increase over the last year or so, maybe 18 months, interest rates.
This will make the cost of living crisis worse.
It's going to increase inflation.
So these sorts of solutions that are going to make things worse, this is the way these people operate.
It's known as problem reaction solution.
And David, I made a big deal about that years ago.
So it's still the same, you know, formula, if you will.
But in your case, you're talking about the ones that actually want to send it down a dark path.
And we certainly are seeing that at this time.
There's a real push for a totalitarian, Nazi-run world government, obviously, through Klaus Schwab and the whole thing.
So you go to Bilderberg, right?
You sit in those meetings.
Now, how do you do that?
You are an investigative reporter, but do they let you in?
Or are you outside?
No, I do not sit in the meetings.
What we do, we photograph America going in.
And actually, there's a whole There's a whole bunch of us, I guess.
Maybe a couple of dozen over the years of people who've really gotten together, particularly in Europe, when the meetings are in Europe.
They probably will be this year in Europe somewhere.
At the moment, we're trying to figure it out and guessing where it's going to be in April, May time.
But the point is, you have to photograph them as they're going in and out.
Quite often you can just sell the pictures of the people.
Oh, wow, look, you know, Henry Kissinger, obviously he's disappeared now off the scene.
But, you know, you've got these rich and powerful people coming in and out.
But the thing is, what I find so fascinating about this is sometimes you get a picture and we're sitting at the hotel in the evening, we're going, who is this guy?
I think he's, look, he's with them, he's with them.
And we have to go through online to try and figure out who on earth it is.
They're not on the list.
You know, there's no, they're completely, and it turns out, for example, last time, I think his name's Josh Friedman, who was with us, did an article about the guy.
He's the chief guy for the accession of Sweden to NATO, working for the Swedish government, the Swedish military.
There he is at the Bilderberg Conference, just an anonymous face, no announcement that he's actually there, but of course this is what it's all about.
They're bringing these countries into NATO.
It's a military Political lobby, where what they're doing is essentially, they have been, and they've been going ever since the 1950s, remember, bit by bit.
And I think they've now reached a stage where they do control all of our politicians, really.
So they make sure that there is no politician who's going to get in power in any of the NATO countries, or countries that are coming into NATO, that's not one of their puppets.
And they've been extremely successful, Bilderberg, in doing that with their Their toxic mix of the biggest, most powerful banksters, corporations, royalty, of course, as well, are also in there.
Sure.
The mass media people, the owners, not necessarily the actual day-to-day editors, the people that actually own the media, mostly, are there.
And what they're really doing is they're just making sure that anybody that is coming along as a potential leader They're just checking them over.
This person will do as we say.
Yeah, they are completely wedded to being controlled by money and blackmail.
Yes, and they're able to speak.
And it's a way of introducing them to the secret rulers of the Western world, if you want.
It's like schmoozing them.
Say, look, we're a cozy club of people.
We'll look after you.
It really is a sort of top-level NATO mafia, Kerry.
That's the way I see it.
Sure.
Well, yeah, it's almost, from my point of view, it would be a coven.
A large coven.
You know, just to see it like it is.
Yeah, so that's the steering group, I suppose, who are the people that make the decisions about... I mean, they have very diabolical ambitions, and they're not shy about announcing them to the world.
So, we just had a meeting that happened, right?
Was there anything that stuck out for you in particular?
They're really focusing, I think, on AI and Yeah, exactly right.
It was all about AI, largely, anyway.
I mean, there was all this stuff about growing NATO, fighting Russia, Ukraine, all this sort of thing.
But it was all over the news, all over Europe and the United States, during the Bilderberg Conference.
And, yeah, because what they see this as, they've been talking about this whole idea of bringing AI into warfare.
And although they don't really tell the public much about this, this is what they're doing.
So, you know, they've got their satellites hooked up to these targeting computers.
A lot of them are British-built systems that are actually firing the weaponry.
And so they kind of flick the little switch, which is no human intervention.
And the first killings, apparently, which were done by the AI Systems I mean it really are kind of like a computer game really so maybe it's you know it's not fair to necessarily call it artificial intelligence it's just a kind of computer program it's programmed to kill people or kill things or tanks or whatever and so I think it was in Libya one of the first of these was killed but then it started it was revealed
Christmas 2022, that they were using the Palantir software, Alex Karp's Palantir, Bilderberg Palantir software, to kill Russians in Ukraine.
And they were switching it on, switching it off, testing it, basically.
This was one of the reasons why NATO Yes.
Testing weaponry is a huge part of the Ukrainian situation.
I always thought that and did report on that.
Now, I don't know if you're aware of the Russians going into underground bases.
There's a huge network under Ukraine.
Are you up to speed on all of that?
Well, you mean Russian-built bases?
No, actually occupied by the Biolabs.
Don't you remember the story?
All the Biolabs underground?
And a lot of that stuff was interrupted, basically, but they were doing experiments on the Ukrainian people who, a lot of them, Have now come across the channel and actually invaded your country.
So what you're going to look at is people that have been possibly even not only experimented on, but perhaps carriers and genetically re-engineered in one way or another to bring a certain change in the population.
And so that's going to affect Britain in a big way in the future.
These are things they don't talk about, of course.
And then I also, you know, I don't want to take too much of your time today.
So I don't want to kind of jump from topic to topic.
Certainly feel free to bounce back to other things if you didn't get a chance to say what you want.
But I'm also curious what your take is on this latest situation with Iran, with the hit in Jordan.
Do you think the Iranians were as involved as the news out there is trying to say they were?
What's your take on all of that?
Well, it's a bit like, say, you know, the Nazis invading France and Britain.
Taking an interest.
Listen, I mean, these people are neighbours.
You know, they're not quite next door, Yemen and Iran, but they're very, very near.
The British, obviously, were behind the creation of Saudi Arabia in the Sykes-Picot Agreement, and so that's their little monarchy that they set up, rather like the Israelis, the Crusader States, Over there.
And so these are the local indigenous people.
They're not the puppets or the backers.
Having said that, the United States and Britain, particularly, are behind Israel.
You know, so we happen to be 4,000, 6,000, 8,000 miles away.
From Israel.
They're next door to their…and this is the region that we're interfering.
I think it's maybe, you know, the pertinent question is, what are we doing in the Middle East?
What have we been doing?
The Gaza genocide that started in October, we're now looking at, I mean, a particularly horrific…I mean, it's bringing hell to the Holy Land.
I was just chatting to someone today about this.
What we've created in Gaza with this now nearly 30,000 civilians killed by the Israeli army defense force in this... Extraordinary!
I mean is what you've got is you've got parents who are looking at their children in the knowledge that they cannot protect their children and you've got the kids staring back at mum and dad crying.
So, how are we allowing this sort of thing to go on?
Well, the answer is, it's not just about land, it's about good and evil, and it's what the Israelis and the British and the Americans, and anyone else that's involved in this, and there are some others, but it's mainly the Anglo-Zionist sort of axis, is wickedness.
It's evil.
It's biblical, really, in terms of Oh yeah, it's genocide.
So how does, you know, I don't know what your situation is in terms of whether you get intel from sources.
Do you have intel from sources?
Well I do have.
I had, well actually my Gaza source, I'm afraid I cannot get in touch with her anymore.
I used to get bits and bobs from her, but I mean I've got a particularly good source in the West Bank, so I'm always chatting with people over there.
Well, okay, and what about down in Egypt?
Because it's very interesting the push to get them, you know, down to the south of Gaza and then to bring in this canal.
I'm sure you know the Ben Gurion Canal and all of that.
And the fact that they are actually just, I mean, it's kind of mind-blowing that we come from a time when we thought World War II and Nazism And the genocide happening there was stopped or attempted to be stopped by invading, basically, Germany and fighting the good fight, right?
Well, now we don't We have, our country is, you know, it's given, it's the Illuminati, UN backed, Biden-esque military.
We have a huge split in our military.
I don't know if you're totally up to speed on that, but we do.
And they have gone into to back, you know, we put ships in the Gulf and we're actually backing the genocide.
The main part of what people think of as the American government, which I, you know, I go, I'm part of what's called MAGA and that whole thing.
So I don't back any of this stuff.
Neither does Trump, really.
So there's an issue there, and how it's going to be resolved with or without Trump getting into office, I don't know.
But we're in this very horrible stalemate on a certain level.
So anything that kind of shakes loose in the Middle East is almost welcome at this point, because the trajectory is so dire for the Palestinians.
They're being obliterated.
And as a state, certainly.
So there's not even, you know, some people are saying two-state solution.
There's almost not another state anymore.
There's a pocket.
And it always, it has been a prison system.
I guess you know that, right?
The Gazans have been In a prison for all intents and purposes, you know, they had to have passes to go, you know, in and out of their, of Gaza and so on and so forth.
Yeah, so, I mean, the 7th of October was a prison break.
Yeah, yeah, right.
So, you know, and yet lots of people came out, they demonstrated in the streets of all the different countries, basically trying to protest this situation.
But the militaries have been completely oblivious and just going along with it.
So, I know Turkey is moving troops into the area right now.
I guess you've heard that, right?
Well, of course it used to be Turkey.
Up until the British turned up during the First World War.
This is all Ottoman.
I'm sure Erdogan is looking down there at old-fashioned Phoenicia, which is now Lebanon, and thinking to himself, well, actually, it would be rather nice to have that back after the British pinched it from us.
And of course, it is very much a British project.
I was going back through the timescales.
In the First World War.
And it's unbelievable really.
The Battle of Gaza, the British General Allenby pushed all of his soldiers up.
They lost about 100,000 men on both sides with the Turks.
And that was in September 1917.
And then they finished the battle and he pushed up and he got pretty much level with Jerusalem.
So he was kicking the Turks north all the time.
And that was after, of course, after the Americans had come into the war, right?
The Americans came into the First World War in Europe, leaving loads of British troops and Commonwealth troops, the New Zealanders and the Kiwis, to fight to push the Turks out of the Holy Land.
And then at the end of that year, at the end of that campaign week in September, the Balfour Declaration was published in the London Times.
So it's like, you've taken half of the Holy Land, now let's publish the Balfour Declaration.
Well, the next year, The Battle of Megiddo, they kicked the Turks right out all the way beyond Damascus in a couple of weeks.
And at the end of those couple of weeks, they signed the armistice with the Turks and the First World War was finished.
So a lot of the First World War's progress And the whole progress of the British takeover of Palestine was based around this whole, you know, that's really what the First World War was about, I think.
Well it was, I mean, and this goes back, this is Lawrence of Arabia, it's depicted in a movie, and it is a partition, it was a partitioning of an area that didn't actually have borders at the time.
That's right.
They were tribal people and they did actually move around.
So they did have some of their territories but... Lawrence was on the side of the Arabs and he was doing these guerrilla actions against the Germans etc.
in and around Palestine area.
But the point is that after, as the Second World War was coming along and this whole idea of the creation of a Jewish state He started getting really angry, saying, look, you know, we've mobilized tens of thousands of these Arabs for an Arab state, not a Jewish state.
What are you doing?
You know what then happened to him?
He was run off the road on his motorbike, and after two or three days in hospital, he was murdered.
So that's what the British do to their agents, you know, who have gone beyond their James Bond characters.
They've gone beyond their sell-by date, or they've gone native.
He fulfilled his purpose.
So anyway, you've got the creation of the Israeli state after World War II.
You know, largely this is the Brits.
I mean, I knew some of the people who were served over there and were getting blown up by the Jewish terrorists in the 1940s.
And then they came back home.
But this all fits to me.
I don't know what you make of it, Kerry, it'd be interesting to hear.
It fits very much with Albert Pike's Three World Wars.
Oh yes, yes.
So the idea is eventually to create a third world war, which is to use the Nihilists, he talks about them as, which we might know as the Zionists.
These are the people who've, you know, attempting to hijack Judaism and to set them against all these Muslim countries in an attempt, this is their attempt, is to bring about the biggest war you could possibly imagine and then say, well, this is a religious war.
Why don't we just all become like New Age Luciferians?
Because this is the way people really want to be.
These religions have just caused so much trouble, let's bring in a... Yeah, this is the danger, of course.
Yeah, I think that's what... I mean, I don't know about you, I think that's... I'm looking at what's going on and I'm seeing all this stuff from 1871.
Pikes plan.
In fact, you know what I first heard about that plan?
And I couldn't quite believe it.
I thought, no, no, no, this is nonsense.
It was from a friend of mine who'd been out living with the Bedouin, who were the sort of, the Arabic kind of gypsy characters, the nomadic traders.
Sure.
There's still quite a few of them around out there.
She'd been staying with them for a few months.
Well, actually, maybe 18 months.
And she got to speak Arabic and everything.
And she came back and said, oh, they were raving about this guy, Pike.
Who's he?
It's almost like, if you can imagine, Kerry, sitting around a kind of gypsy fire, chatting to the people that really know what's going on.
And they're not beholden to anybody.
And then they'll play a little song for you.
But that, I think, is Is what we're dealing with today.
Well, I've traveled in the Middle East and in Jordan, and I have actually sat around even in Jericho with both sides.
And so I can say that I, you know, I know exactly what you're talking about.
You know, it is fascinating.
I mean, I kind of made friends with people Some officials at the Egyptian airport who let me in their backdoor area to talk to me.
It was really interesting.
Nobody does that, of course, but, you know, they bring... Most people don't, no.
People like you and I do, you know, and you understand that actually there is this kind of undercurrent almost everywhere you go is the official version.
You know what?
You can do exactly the same with the Israeli archaeology departments and the universities over there because there is this official archaeology We say don't, you know, it's the sanitized version.
If you go down, you know, to have a proper chat with them, they will tell you, yeah, well, actually, this is what's really... That's true behind the scenes in Egypt as well.
I take tours to Egypt and I have, you know, some very interesting conversations.
But they're, you know, they're afraid.
These are totalitarian governments.
They don't tell you that.
But, you know, Behind the scenes, Egypt was totalitarian forever, and we were told behind the scenes, you know, nobody can talk.
If they're caught talking, you know, you just disappear the next day, so to speak.
Yeah, you have to be quite subtle about it.
It's a bit like the old Soviet Russia, isn't it?
Yeah.
Be quite careful, otherwise the KGB or the NKVD are going to, you know, going to feel your collar.
But anyway, thankfully we have, I think, one of the things I'd like to say a bit about the UK, which is big a B for us, is the, I know you're over here quite a bit, but when the Queen died, you know, many people might think, oh it's just a load of stupid British, you know, actually there was a, it was almost like a kind of total change in the country, a very strange mood,
And I don't know if you saw much of the coverage, but there were tens of thousands of people who actually came out to line the streets to see the Queen's Coffin taken from London down to Windsor.
And King Charles, bless him, First of all, up at Windsor, I don't know if you saw the footage of the Masonic, you know, this kind of thing that the police were doing up at Windsor, sorry, at Balmoral in Scotland, where she died.
But yeah, so I mean, this is, you know, the police don't do salutes like that, yeah?
But anyway, that's what they were doing.
Anyway, so he flew his mum down in, you know, in the coffin, which a lot of people were annoyed about, because people were actually kind of thinking, oh well, they're going to drive her down and we'll be there, you know, But the point I was trying to say is that she was a very, very different character and personality to Charles.
Charles wants to be in charge.
He thinks he knows best.
He's extremely political.
I'm actually hearing a completely different line of reasoning what's going on with Charles.
He's actually abdicating the throne at this time.
He's turning everything over to William, although they may be a stand-in for a time, but that's what I'm hearing.
I'm hearing he's either dying or he's already dead and he's been supplanted by some kind of clone or whatever.
I can tell you that he's never wanted to, at least what he has said, and the actions behind the scene are that he is absolutely turning over the throne.
I think what you're saying is a myth.
It's a myth put out by his lot.
He really does want to be in charge.
He's waited his whole damn life He used to be in charge, and now he is in charge.
Here's an example, right, here's an example.
Remember Sunday, we have every 11th of November, where they never remember anything, they forget all the lessons they've learned from all these world wars, as usual, and they stand in Whitehall at the Cenotaph and, you know, do their thing, lay their wreaths.
Anyways, three people who were there in November 23, Whatever it is, about a month after this genocide started in Gaza, and you've got King Charles stood there, behind him is Rishi Sunak, Prime Minister, and David Cameron, former Prime Minister.
So at the end of the ceremony, and of course Sunak is Goldman Sachs, right?
He's a little good boy, he'll do anything he's told, but he's really Goldman Sachs.
He's not Tory, Labour, British, or anything.
So They then go off into, there's a great big door next to the Cenotaph in Whitehall, which only opens, I think, once a year when that ceremony is, and it goes, they go in for lunch at the Foreign Office, they all march in, and these three sit down and have lunch together.
So, the next morning they announce David Cameron is going to be Foreign Secretary.
So, the press were all going, well there was no leaks about this, this is, and I said, well of course not, it's because they only decided yesterday.
And Sunak, Charles and Cameron, all in there.
Cameron is a big pro-Israel person.
He was one of the patrons of the Jewish settlement funds, for example, you know, which is all illegal.
And obviously he also helped arrange the destruction of Gaddafi, the invasion of Libya and all that stuff.
So he was the perfect guy to have.
Anyway, so... Okay, so you're saying that Cameron is the Foreign Secretary?
Is that what you're saying right now?
Oh no, did you get cut off?
Oh god.
All right, let's see if he comes back.
I have to say that Tony is probably not up to speed on the information we have from the White Hats, etc.
So it's kind of interesting to hear his line of inquiry and what he follows and what he believes versus what probably really is.
So, however, he must have hit a nerve there because the British, you know, watch you like a hawk.
Now I'm sure he's going to say something went wrong with his internet or I don't know what.
It's interesting.
I was doing a show with ML a day ago and same thing happened.
It happened a lot sooner with ML, but nonetheless, This is getting to be kind of a pattern with my guests and guests, you know, that I'm the guest.
I'm going to do a show later today, by the way, so you can sort of stay tuned for that.
Let me see who it's with.
Yeah, Gail Ross and I don't have her details in front of me, but anyway, it's going to be probably live on Rumble.
I think that might be how it goes, but we'll see.
I can see if I can simulcast it over there.
Yeah, it's fascinating.
My information is that King Charles has already stepped down, and in fact that he may have died, but it could have been the clone that died, and also that Cameron is dead.
This is according to the police chief.
His information, I interviewed him and talked about that.
He's the former chief of police of Colorado, and I talked about that on my blog video that I just released a day or two ago.
So I don't know if Tony's going to be able to come back in, whether I should close this down.
Maybe I'll take some Q&A from the audience.
He is very knowledgeable and I think he's written a few books.
I haven't actually read Tony's books but I'm very fascinated with this Fifth Man book that he mentions that I'd like to read that because that's an area that I like investigating.
So let's see what's going on.
I don't know.
Are we even live?
I'm looking Oh God, so it looks like we're not live anymore.
Wow.
Not sure what to do.
I wonder if we're live, because I'm looking at the video on Facebook.
Looks like it started over at the beginning.
That's kind of insane.
If anyone is in the chat and does see me, so you're saying I am live.
Okay, it's kind of weird because what I see as far as the live show is a rerun of the beginning.
So I don't know what's going on there.
Are you sure it's me like talking to you right now saying am I live?
Maybe you can weigh in on that.
Tony has disappeared.
Let me see if there's any messages from him over here.
Oh God, it's just so insane.
All right, so I'm asking so I'm asking him, On the chat where we are connected.
If you know what's going on, so maybe he'll respond there.
Maybe he won't.
I think I want to keep this going for a little while longer.
So if you have questions, why don't you go ahead and put them in the chat and then maybe I can answer them.
It's a.
People are saying they're saying where they're watching it from.
Okay, but that's not kind of a question.
I am live and it looks like I've been on for 40 minutes.
Very strange.
It's not being reflected on my Facebook.
Okay, yeah, now it seems to have caught up with me.
Okay, well, I'm live.
So if you want to ask a question, this is your big chance.
In the chat, please do put a question mark after your statements, whatever it happens to be.
And I'm going to try to keep this going for a little while in hopes that Tony can return.
Uh and it's not just a permanent thing for the day and and he's now off the air.
I mean actually right now it's like 9 30 in in the UK at night so um so it's getting late over there.
Uh there is so much going on it's absolutely insane and uh I guess you know he does go to the Bilderberg meetings by the way and uh And he's been doing that for many years, so he probably and a small team go over there.
Sometimes they have some interesting reports, and I think they do document their visits to the Bilderberg meetings.
As he said, I guess they're not let in on the actual meetings, so they're like the reporters that hang about outside.
I guess that's how it goes.
If anyone has, I'm, like I said, I'm going to be on a show later today, so I hesitate to start going off on a tangent.
What does this say here?
Everything gets watched.
Yeah, everything goes on Rumble after I broadcast anyway.
way.
So Clyde barrel, I mean, that guy, you know, was putting pornographic stuff up there and saying all kinds of horrible things.
That's not going to fly in the chat.
So if you didn't know that, someone sent me that stuff and gave me a heads up.
So thank God I got rid of him from my Telegram chat.
That's kind of like a no-brainer.
Maybe you didn't know that, or maybe you're a fan of his.
I don't know.
That's very weird.
So not really a question to do with anything worthwhile.
That was someone else.
Well, their name was Clyde Beryl.
That was their signature on the chat.
That's the bottom line.
They, under that name, they were doing porno and all kinds of stuff.
So, let's see, what else?
What do you think happened in Miami?
With the whole aliens and the shopping mall?
Well, I have talked about it already, but I can say that I think it was a part of a Kind of a public conditioning.
It's part of this whole group of events that has been going on, which one was a sighting in Colorado, like not Colorado, but where was it?
Was it Colorado?
Well, some state.
No, I guess it was, I think maybe it was Nevada.
Yeah, I think Nevada.
I'm not sure.
At a home and that's on the internet.
And then there was the one down in Peru and I actually had some direct dealings with a person who went down there to investigate.
I gave them a lot of advice on how to release their footage of their investigation of a similar type tall alien thing down there where they actually abducted a young woman.
I think she survived, but she had some harm done to her, and that's a very strange story, but it is not fictitious.
And then, in an exact parallel, I don't know, what do you call those lines around our globe?
I guess the horizontal one?
There's vertical and horizontal.
Anyway, on the same Axis Point going over to Florida to that mall was actually on the same line for what it's worth.
And I think it was a Project Blue Beam beginning, rough start, all the police showing up.
I mean, that was just insane.
Not even that many police showed up on 9-11, let alone on that In that situation, I think getting the cell phone footage seemed to be a desperate move by those police.
And I think that indicates that there was something to be photographed that was worth seeing and could really have been not just a blue beam situation, but maybe the actual some real aliens.
I had suggested that the tall whites who have a base in What's it called?
It's in Nevada.
I think right on the border over there.
And it's this Charles Hall.
There's a series of books by a military guy called Charles Hall about the tall whites, their society.
He got to know them.
He was based out there by himself for many years.
as a soldier, he was supposed to report on the weather or something out there supposedly, but he ended up and I tried to interview him, but his handler who is his wife wouldn't allow me.
But anyway, I found out, I read all his books and I found out that they love to shop in Vegas and wear the clothes and stuff.
And they can kind of camouflage themselves.
Other than being tall, they have quite long whitish hair.
And contrary to a lot of people out there who think they're Nazis, they're not.
So there's a confusion on the... The beings from Aldebaran are a different race of beings altogether.
So they're not Nazis.
But the tall whites that Charles Hall talked about do love to shop and dress up in clothes.
So I was joking around that it's possible they came down, maybe they even got hired to come down and sort of put on a little show for, you know, the locals, so to speak, in the mall.
And then it was a test run.
Now, I think it was 107 who said it was a mapping exercise to see, I guess, I don't know how people would react, where they would come from in different parts of Florida.
And then he said they're planning another one of those to come along.
So that's very interesting.
I'm not lying, you know, I tell him the absolute truth.
This is absolutely what's out there.
This is my thoughts.
You don't agree with me.
That's one thing, but I'm not fucking lying.
So, you know, fuck off.
And I'll probably have to ban you.
But at any rate, this is, you know, this is what's going on.
There is an effort to do these.
These things are all reported in the press.
If you think they're lies, well, then blame the press.
You know what I'm saying?
And so anyway, it's all out there.
A million videos all about this story.
And I'm just telling you what my take is.
So I think it's both.
I think that it's both Project Blue being orchestrated and that possibly, not definitely, but possibly the tall whites might've come down to also come through portals and put on some kind of demonstration.
Otherwise, why did they want people's cell phones so desperately?
And why were there so many police there?
Because you didn't need a police presence like that.
So I think that's really fascinating.
What else?
Yeah, okay, well, this is, you know, if you have a It's nothing to do with telling the truth, it's to do with harassment.
When I'm relating a story that's out there, told everywhere, it's not a lie.
So the person doesn't know what they're talking about, their brain is like frozen up and they've lost the plot.
So yes, I will ban a person like that for sure.
Whatever else, if you have any good questions, other than snide comments and trolling, please do let me know.
Otherwise, I guess we'll close this down because it doesn't look like Let me double check and see if I got any answers.
No.
Tony is not able to come back, sadly.
So we'll do this again another day if we can manage it with Tony.
And so don't know what's going on, but this same thing happened with ML a few days ago.
So something weird going on where they don't want these people to talk to me.
So take care, have a good day, night, and try to keep your investigations going, try to do your own research, try to stay up to speed on what's happening, and use your intuition, and use your head, your mind, coupled with your heart, Your heart, a very important part of this.
And anyone who spends time attacking someone, whether it's a live show or comments, that person has a really long way to go in developing self-esteem and becoming a good person, in my opinion.
So take care again and have a good night.
Bye-bye.
Okay, I think we are live again.
And so, yeah, so go right ahead, Tony.
If you want to pick up where you left off?
Before we were rudely interrupted by my battery draining from 40 percent down, even whilst the phone's being charged, Let's just leave it at that.
We were talking about Charlie.
We call him Tampon Charlie.
I don't know if you know what we're talking about.
If most of the world remembers the tapes that were released, probably through MI5 at the time, which was the sort of rival factions in MI5, some of whom supported Diana and some of whom supported Charles.
And the famous tape of Charles talking about wanting to be a tampon when he was chatting with Camilla.
So this is back in the 19... oh gosh, yeah, early 19... mid-1990s.
So Charlie, I think, is it you know, he's very much in I don't think he's dead.
He's very much in charge.
If you think, of course, he's also extremely active in this whole zero carbon movement, which is his attempt to create an entirely new economy to control world energy and basically to control people's use of energy.
So to turn it into not not just a sort of a world market in oil, coal, gas, whatever.
But an entirely controlled energy market.
So you will only have a certain amount.
This is very much like the Chinese social credit system.
So Charlie is at the apex of that and always has been, actually, right the way since the Rio Earth Summit.
So, you know, he's quite an important key figure.
His main organization, I believe he operates through, is called the Order of the Garter, which we now have his wife, Camilla, Who the Queen didn't really want.
She didn't go to their wedding.
I don't know if you know that.
When Camilla and Charles finally got married, the Queen refused to go because she said, this woman, you know, because you cheated on Diana, you cannot actually have this woman properly as officially as the Queen.
Because you cheated on Diana.
If Diana had cheated on you, fine, but this is the way the Queen saw it when she was alive.
So you see, he's not only involved in this very much in the foreign policy issues around helping to appoint Cameron, he's also extremely involved in this whole climate business with Klaus Schwab and his buddies at the World Economic Forum, which is where the Chinese and the Americans come together there as well.
Yes, well from our perspective he is a pedo and so is the entire royal family, reptilians basically, and I don't need to go too much deeper into that.
Let me pick you up on that because Andrew is an interesting character.
He had sex with a prostitute, basically, who was, I think she was 17 years old, am I right?
This is normal.
I mean, it's not illegal.
But the point of this whole Epstein operation was to blacken the names of anybody that's to do it.
The idea is everybody is looking at who's been to under the Epstein umbrella and they're being blackmailed.
And they all look at Andrew and say, God, if they can do that to Andrew, what will they do to me if I don't toe the line?
You know, so it is a Mossad based, I think Mossad anyway, you know, based blackmail operation there.
Sure, but with actually some reality behind it.
But I think that maybe you are not sort of, I don't know whether you're read into the whole Satanism And England has been front and centre in the whole Satanic movement, of course.
Has it?
For eons.
Oh yeah.
I do see a lot of these things as ultimately Satanic, particularly Freemasonry, and things like the Order of the Garter.
I think I would use, and even the British Army Council, which is always made up of Freemasons, this is the little organisation ever since Cromwell, which has run the army, So this is, I think, ultimately satanic, but I'll be interested to see why you think it's so focused here in Britain.
Oh, well, it goes way back into the occult and all of that, Aleister Crowley, you name it, the dark magicians, and also centered in France, down in south of France.
God, what do they call it?
I think I'm drawing a blank right now.
The P2 Lodge, is it?
In Italy, yeah.
There's a base in France.
Anyway, and there are these witches and the whole Illuminati is actually the whole government's run behind the scene by these dark magicians.
And it doesn't have to be something which is weird and controversial.
You just look at the P2 scandal in Italy, You'll find the chief fascist.
Yeah, the P2 Lodge.
But it's actually, they have a base in southern France.
But this is the thing is with the Italian lot, it was all exposed in the newspapers and everything over there.
So you could see it, but it's almost like a kind of... One of my witnesses, Leo Zagami.
Are you familiar with him?
Yeah.
Yeah, so he talks a lot about it, he's written many books about it.
I interviewed him, I was one of the first back in the day to bring the whole thing public, but it goes into the... Hang on, did you know about the original writings of the Illuminati from the late 1700s actually do talk about these propaganda lodges?
I mean, you know, it's amazing, amazing, really.
If you look, there's all across the world, all across the press.
Well, it has to do with, you know, burning at the stake of, you know, the Templars.
And, and I mean, there's so many, there's so many facets of it.
Yeah, it's, you know, but Be that as may rather than go down that direction.
Let's let's just sort of acknowledge that it is part of and I have some witness testimony about this going way back as well.
Anyway.
Well, hang on, whilst we talk about the satanic... And it has to do with satanic, also it has a lot to do with Israel, you know, the background behind what is in the Khazarian Mafia, you know, it goes behind the scenes in Ukraine, the child sacrificing, the human trafficking, all of this.
I mean, this is a whole big story.
The Drenichrome, I call it the Drenichrome Highway, goes to Hollywood, goes, you know, it involves the whole Epstein story, the islands, not just Epstein, but also Branson and others, where these things are going on.
Yeah, well look, so we had a bit of a disagreement, didn't we, before I got cut off, about accelerationism or problem reaction solution.
And I think this, you know, I'd really love to try and persuade you that this is really about, and accelerationism is something which goes much deeper than this.
I mean, Ike is quite right about the idea of Well, I just don't use that word.
We consider it a plan.
It is the New World Order plan.
They do, and it opens a door to this whole Nietzschean philosophy, which is so important, I think, and also links back to Crowley.
People like him, you know, so that is what they're... that is actually... never mind what... the problem, reaction, solution is what we're seeing.
Accelerationism is what is creating those events and... and the... the thing they're accelerating is Armageddon.
It's World War III.
That's their... their... Yes!
I think we agree completely on that.
And so there is this philosophical movement.
Now, just to break it to you, one of my school friends in South East London at grammar school, Langley Park School in Beckenham in Kent, when I was 14, 15 years old, is this guy Nick Glam.
Now, Nick is the father of accelerationism.
So, I mean, this is something I've kind of figured out over the last couple of years, is that my old school friend, we used to call him, well I didn't, I was a lot more polite, but he was called Nick the Nazi at school and he went on to do philosophy at Sussex University
And then on to be a professor of, or a lecturer anyway, he was a big fish in the philosophy world, in the Nietzschean philosophy world, at Warwick University, where he created something called the Cybernetics Cultural Research Unit, right?
So this brought in people from all over the world to look at, effectively, transhumanism, right?
This is the idea of putting people into machines.
And you've got Yuval Noah Harari now making millions out of writing books about this stuff, but Nick was one of the first.
And I just found it crazy, Kerry, that, you know, and he was actually a really nice guy.
He was a very dark character, right?
But he was a brilliant guy to go to school with because he knew far more than any teacher in our school.
Probably most of the lecturers at any of the universities.
You know, cybernetics got into Scientology.
That's also where it comes from.
Yeah, that's right.
Well, I mean, Nick is one of the people who's actually behind this.
I mean, his writing is almost indecipherable, really.
Well, you know, Scientology is a huge Look, I don't think he was a Scientologist.
He's writing about turning everything into computers.
I'm not so sure you can separate the two.
Computers will run everything.
And actually, this is the best way to do things.
So he's saying... Well, that's where we are.
This week, with Elon Musk's first implant person, which I think should actually have been Elon Musk.
himself, but he's got some idiotic volunteer to have a brain implant, but this is Nick.
This is Nick and his accelerationist philosophies, and if you want to really get to grips with, you know, his stuff, don't read his stuff, just look at what's going on.
I mean, a person to read actually, probably most useful, is David Livingstone and his book about transhumanism, You know, I report on transhumanism all the time.
That's right.
David, I think, has got the really long take that goes right back to literally like 2000 BC, looking at this movement to control Everybody, you know, and bit by bit they've decided, and I think now they've just decided, right, we're going to go for it with computer technology, with AI, and we're going to have all these people, you know, this is through owing nothing and being happy, of course, so.
Of course, yeah, no, it's a package deal.
Yeah, social credited, but the acceleration is to the people who've devised the system, What I'm saying is that, you know, all power to Ike's elbow in pointing out this problem reacts to solution, but there is a much bigger, if you take a step back from it, I think there's a much bigger transhumanist... Well, okay, but I report on transhumanism all the time and I've got article after article about this.
I've been investigating this and one of my main witnesses, Captain Mark Richards, has talked a lot about this.
So I've really been breaking the story more than most people.
See if you can interview Nick.
I've tried.
He won't, you know, he won't do an interview with me, but you might be able to.
What's his last name?
Nick Land.
Nick Land.
Land.
L-A-N-D.
And he's in Shanghai now.
He's over in Shanghai.
I'll look him up and see what we see about him.
He, you know, if you can actually get him on, that would be fantastic.
But, you know, the thing is, the thing is that the ultimate aim is this massive conflagration And I think we're getting, you know, we're getting closer and closer all the time with Biden making these menacing threats to Iran.
Hey, you know, Iran, we've decided we're going to do something.
We're not going to tell you what it is.
You know, this kind of this is getting pretty sinister, really.
Especially when you think of the amount of weapons, you know, the amount of bombs that have been dropped on Gaza.
My God, I mean, this is like more than many of the cities.
It's insane.
The carpet bombing in World War Two.
Yes.
It's totally unnecessary.
These guys have got a few Kalashnikovs and maybe a couple of, like, limpet mines they can go and stick on a tank.
That's it, you know.
So what are they up to?
Well, it's part of a population reduction, but it's also, you know, the whole thing with war is to move populations en masse, so you get a mass exodus.
Now, the strange thing about the Palestinian thing is that they seem to be eliminating them rather than letting them exit, you know what I'm saying?
So, whereas we have the refugees from the Ukraine, Actually showing up at our southern border.
That's right.
You know, the difference is this is a form of human sacrifice.
Oh yeah, no doubt about it.
They're not allowing the people to get away.
These people, in fact, it's rather like the elimination of the non-Zionist Jews by the Nazis, you know, so they're saying we're going to put you in a concentration camp and we're going to work you to death.
I don't see a difference, frankly, I mean genocide is genocide, you know, so this is what we're witnessing.
It's very similar, I don't know what you make, I mean it's very similar to the Crusades.
It's almost like the Crusades, they didn't quite You know, succeed.
There were a few years they they had the Kings, the Crusader Kings in Jerusalem.
Then they got booted out by, you know, Saladin and the rest of them.
And the whole thing was a con anyway, from start to finish.
You know, it was loads of massacres going on.
And it was a lot of it was to do with the war between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church at the time, you know, Rome and Constantinople.
Supposedly.
Yeah, well, it was.
I mean, there was.
I mean, the Orthodox Church was massacred.
It's kind of like now, you know, right now.
Constantinople was absolutely massacred by the Crusaders.
I mean, they tried to kill every single person in Constantinople.
They wanted to wipe out the Orthodox Church.
And, of course, that kind of move has moved to what is now Moscow, right?
So that fight is not finished, you know.
Anyway, look, I know you want to wrap up, Kerry, but... Yeah, so let's have you talk a little bit about your recent work, any recent books, articles you've been working on, where your focus is right now, and if you want to throw in some more Bilderberg investigations, let me know.
That'll be good.
Well, okay, so just to wrap up, I've got these three books out now, e-books, but two of them are also paperbacks.
So one is the It's called The Traitors of Arnhem, which is also a paperback.
Now that is an investigation of the links between the British and the Nazis during the, towards the end of the Second World War in Europe.
So this is, I mean, I think it's, you know, because we know a lot about paperclip, but not so much about Winston Churchill.
And so if you look at Winston Churchill's private secretary, Desmond Morton, He was in the First World War.
He was the aide-de-camp to General Haig.
So he was right in the middle of World War One and the massacres there in Europe, in the trenches.
But then he was then getting involved with secret communications with Hitler's private secretary, Martin Bormann.
In 1944.
So I did a whole book about that and looking at the Battle of Arnhem and why that was such a disaster in the film of Bridge Too Far.
How did you paint Churchill in the end?
Did you see him as just a complex person or did you see him part of the Illuminati and that their plans for changing the face of Europe etc?
Dennis Wheatley, the great writer, who was also a psychological warfare officer or a deception planner during World War II, Dennis Wheatley in his book The Devil and All His Works, I think it's 1972, has a little line about Churchill, he said, He said, maybe Winston Churchill was a member of Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati.
I would not be surprised if it were so.
Now, we knew Churchill, was working with Churchill during the war.
And the other thing is, Churchill and Morton, who was really in charge?
Because Desmond Morton lived at Crocken Hill in Kent, just not far from where I was brought up, and in a little house.
And then a few years later, Who turns up and moves in next door?
Ah, Winston Churchill moved in to be next door to Morton.
So you do wonder who was sort of in the driving seat, really.
Anyway, that's really the links between Borman and Morton I think are fascinating.
The other books are more sort of Well, one is the Siege of Heaven Reader, which is just a kind of anthology of secret government, which I think everybody can sort of flick through.
It's almost like a coffee table book, you know.
Oh, wow, look at this, you know.
And so that's all sorts of stuff to do with secret government, all the way from the English Civil War, right the way through to the assassination of Diana.
And, you know, so I'm just trying to pick out all sorts of interesting, particularly, I mean, I do quite a bit on the Kennedy assassination, too.
I've got all the names of the people involved in that, the CIA, the Chicago people, and some interviews, some good interviews, which I hadn't seen transcribed up anywhere, the stuff I'd seen on TV, which I just typed up.
Anyway, so that's the Siege of Heaven reader.
And then the Siege of Heaven is just a collection of my articles, including, I think, one of the latest was looking at the English Civil War and how It was actually Elizabeth I and John Dee that had this plan for the British Empire.
So where did the biggest empire the world has ever seen come from?
Well, it came from Elizabeth I. It came from John Dee.
And actually, the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich in London has dug out some of the original secret documents, the plans for the empire.
And so I look at Cromwell's role in all that and the emergence of Freemasonry.
Well, I should really read your books, because those are all areas I'm very interested in.
As e-books, I'm happy to send them out, review copies, to anyone that's going to give them a review.
I'll just ping that over to you afterwards, Kerry.
Yeah, that'd be great.
Now, what about this first one you were talking about, the one that focuses on Churchill?
Oh yeah, that's The Traitors of Arnhem.
The reason that the British Through that battle, loads of Americans were killed as well, but particularly the Brits were killed in Arnhem in September 1944, was to give the Germans more time, you know, to screw all the wealth away around the world.
And then, right at the very end of the war, the guy, Bormann, who was the signatory on all the main Nazi bank accounts, was smuggled out of Berlin Along with Snails, Under the Noses of the Russians, by British commandos, and to Desmond Morton, who's waiting in the British sector.
And, oh, hello, Mr Borman.
Thank you.
Right, have all your money, and we'll give you a nice new life.
And they kept him in Britain for a little while, but he ended up in South America, setting up basically a forthright, a financial forthright.
And that is also one of the two main books that I got most of this from.
One is I've read that.
Yeah.
Love that book.
for Crichton, who was one of the one of the commandos that went on that mission.
Amazing.
Yeah, dead now.
Love that.
But the other one is Paul Manning's book, Martin Borman, Nazi in exile.
He was a Canadian or American journalist, CBS journalist who was flying out with the American bombers during the day and coming back and doing reports for Americans on the radio during World War Two.
And Paul Manning's book, Martin Bormann, Nazi in Exile, explains where the money went, really, where all this and it was laundered through Sullivan and Cromwell That's right.
Fascinating.
Now, do you follow Michael Shrimpton's work at all?
A bit, yeah, bits and pieces.
I've done some interviews with him over the years, sure, yeah.
Have you?
which are the the sort of course we're dealing with today that's right uh fascinating um now do you follow uh michael uh shrimpton's work at all a bit yeah bits and pieces i've done some interviews with him over the years sure yeah have you yeah because he he you know he's very much into the whole yeah nazis that have infiltrated the uh both governments or three governments
really the russians the the uk and the americans but especially the uk Yes.
No, I think he's right about Britain being infiltrated, definitely.
And he talks a lot about Canaris, you know, as opposed to Hitler.
Yeah, I don't know if you're one of these people that buys into the Hitler survived the war theory.
That all started once this book had been published.
That all started once Op JB had been published, because it was talking about Bormann being protected by the British.
So I think
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