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MIKE GILL AND KERRY CASSIDY: THE WHITE HATS VS. THE DEEP STATE

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	- Okay, Patriot are gonna introduce the show.
	Absolutely, I am.
	All right, well, hello everyone and welcome to Patriot Underground.
	Today is December 29th, 2023.
	Thank you so much for joining me, folks, to discover the truth beneath the surface.
	As always, I really do appreciate everybody out there.
	Taking the time to listen so as you can see we've got a pretty interesting Roundtable discussion prepared for you guys tonight now Mike Gill everybody out there knows he is probably one of the most famous whistleblowers of all time and He's been out on the circuit lately making appearances and really causing quite a bit of controversy But I think for a good reason as far as Mike is concerned so we're gonna let him lay out everything tonight and we're gonna also have Kerry Cassidy here who has
	Well, I think everybody in my audience knows who Carrie is, but she is the owner and the founder and CEO of ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
	Sorry, I had the double volume on.
	Anyway, so everybody knows who Carrie is.
	Everybody knows who Mike Gill is.
	So let me just briefly say hello to both of you and just say thank you, first of all, for giving me the honor of having this conversation on my platform.
	I've been following both of you guys.
	I mean, Carrie and I, we've developed quite a relationship, but Mike as well.
	I mean, we had a really great conversation about a week ago.
	I've been following your work now for quite some time.
	I have the utmost respect for both of you.
	And certainly, I would also say I have the utmost respect for a lot of the people that may come up in this discussion tonight.
	And my purpose here is basically to just let Mike, lay out his case and to share all of his information and to give Kerry an opportunity and myself an opportunity to ask questions because ultimately at the end of the day what I'm all about is the pursuit of the truth and I think everyone who's out there watching tonight is watching in that spirit.
	So first of all, Mike, thank you so much for joining me.
	It's great to see you.
	I really appreciate you coming on.
	Thank you for giving me this platform and this opportunity to speak to Kerry directly one-on-one on a place that I feel comfortable and safe at this point.
	I'm glad you do.
	I'm glad you do.
	That's exactly how I want you to feel.
	And certainly, I know you're a man who's been in a position where you have to, you know, trust has to be earned and I do certainly respect that.
	So I'm glad that you're here.
	And Carrie, wonderful to see you.
	Thanks for taking the time yet again on vacation.
	I didn't expect I was going to see you twice while you were away, but we just spoke a couple of days ago.
	We were on a show with Turn the Page, but it's great to see you again.
	Thank you.
	Great to be here.
	All right.
	Well, let's go ahead and just kick it off.
	So we kind of agreed that we were going to get right to the good stuff tonight.
	Now, I think most of you guys out there have been listening to Mike Gill.
	He's been doing shows with Michelle Moore.
	So I think a lot of Most of the audience is pretty well aware of the Pandora Papers and Pandora's Box.
	Doesn't mean that we don't have more to learn, myself included, but we want to get right into the sort of the controversy element of what's been happening.
	So when you first started to appear, well I shouldn't say first started to appear, but several months ago when you appeared on Nino's show and then subsequently with Juan, It seemed to me at the time that, you know, you were sort of embracing these guys as allies and that, you know, that they were going to be working, you know, that we're all on the same team working toward the same goal.
	And now there's been, you know, you've been raising the alarm in essence that he, that Juan, and not just Juan, but also, of course, General Flynn, They're a part of this larger conspiracy really within the patriot movement.
	A large swath of patriot media, even you've said essentially has been captured under deep state control and is being run by Flynn.
	So my question to you, Mike, to just kind of lead it off tonight was, is that the case?
	I mean, were you looking, I mean, I don't know how long you've known Juan O'Savin, if that was like the first time that you actually got acquainted with him.
	And what caused that transition?
	When did you start to become aware or suspicious that something was off?
	And I know we've heard about the phone calls that you had, but I'm just kind of curious how that transition, if you could talk about that a little bit and tell us a little bit about, you know, your background with Juan.
	How long have you known him?
	Was that the first time that you guys had ever spoken?
	Just give us a little background on that.
	All right, I'll do that briefly, but then, like you said, get back to the points of the meat of all this.
	Juan was someone that approached me.
	I believe it was from Flynn and probing me, but Juan would call me the closer, the most important whistleblower in the country.
	Pete Centelli, at the same time, was doing the same.
	Why?
	Because they knew who I was through Flynn.
	OK, so in other words, what does he know?
	What is it?
	And they were asking me about how it makes up the Pandora box.
	Remember now, Flynn already had my evidence.
	But so let's go back.
	If we could go back to the top.
	And again, I think it's important for for the people across this country.
	To identify all the players, if we're going, they're going to lead you into this charge or into hell.
	I think you need to know the players and and and and speaking to carry.
	I believe that she's probably the best person to explain who Nino is, and Juan is, and their association with Flynn than anybody, because we've had those communications.
	And I think Kerry stepped in to try to mediate a bit, and we communicated back and forth.
	But if I could start by saying what prompted all this, Was a phone call that I had with Nino and Juan.
	So, just let me quickly rehash that to tell you, then it'll explain more where me and Kerry spoke in regards to those conversations.
	Okay.
	So, I was just being direct with Juan, because Juan's not a very direct person.
	So, I just said Juan, not yelling and screaming, and Nino was on the phone.
	And I said, if we're going to talk, I know what you did.
	What happened with Juan, which is a continuation of what you asked me, is that I knew Flynn and Kennedy was working it out.
	I knew that Flynn set up Trump.
	I am the only witness in the world.
	Pandora's box meets in the Oval Office with January 6th sabotage with Flynn.
	If there is somebody else, why?
	Because that evidence could have saved President Trump.
	It is what he's using to leverage him.
	So, this is what I'll say, and then I can ask Kerry to see if her opinion is if I'm telling her the truth or not, and I won't be offended.
	Now, what I simply asked Juan was, you know General Flynn is a Fed.
	He said yes with Nino on the phone.
	You know General Flynn intercepted my evidence.
	He went, yes.
	Intercepted it to not to save Trump, yes.
	When I went further and said, you know that Trump's lawyers are meeting with the Deep State's lawyers, he said, yes.
	Nino, two hours later, did a video saying just that.
	And then lastly, my concern about an assassination before they opened the Pandora's box.
	Which General Flynn, along with Lorimer, turns around and says, hey, be careful of the CIA.
	I think the deep state will kill you, right after Trump mentioned Pandora's box.
	Okay.
	So, I'm telling you that's what was said.
	Now, I would ask Kerry.
	Kerry, do you believe that I had that conversation with Juan and Nino, or do you believe their version?
	I'm asking you, and I will not be offended, but you tell me whose version you believe.
	Okay, I think it's rather convoluted.
	I'm not sure myself exactly on the conversation.
	I know you had a conversation, Mike.
	You know, you're a straight shooter, okay?
	It's obvious you're a straight shooter.
	That's kind of the way you conduct yourself.
	So, I believe that you had a conversation.
	I believe that the questions you asked were asked directly.
	I assume that Juan answered as you characterized him.
	Somewhere in the transition... Well, the answer was yes and no from Juan, Carrie.
	Right, I get that.
	So, do you believe he said no to the question of Flynn being a Fed?
	He said yes, apparently.
	Apparently, according to your recollection, he said yes.
	Right, but I'm saying, I'm saying, what do you believe?
	Do you believe that Juan would say, recognize Flynn as a Fed?
	Do you believe Juan knows Flynn's a Fed?
	Okay, I believe that if he's a Fed, then Juan would know it.
	I don't know.
	Okay, I don't know what Juan, like, Juan had, there was a show with Juan and Nino, okay, and we'd probably have to go back to that, everyone, because that was a public show.
	It happened after all of this, when you came forward with Michelle.
	Then Juan did a show, unfortunately, as far as I know, I guess for several days, it was behind what you call the firewall on Nino's channel.
	So, it didn't go public right away.
	I think it's public now.
	The question is, I think we're confusing this simple.
	You can imagine where you're kind of straightforward.
	You imagine how it would have to chase one around the barn.
	My point being is, one of us is lying.
	So, in other words, let's go further then.
	You ready?
	Do you think General Flynn is a Fed?
	Now I'll remind you that we've communicated, you called him a Fed, and the fact that he was a double agent even.
	Yes, I believe that he often plays a double agent, I'll say that much.
	So you agree, and you've told me that, through these communications, that in fact Flynn is a Fed, and even to the point that I didn't know, a double agent.
	I mean I have it right here, it says it.
	Okay, as far as him being a Fed, I don't know.
	Okay, look, I don't know who all the affiliations, General Flynn, I would not pretend to know.
	Well, wait a minute.
	I'm just saying what you, let's just keep it simple for everybody.
	I mean, that is what you told me, that Flynn's a Fed.
	And as far, wait a minute, right here.
	No, I didn't tell you Flynn was a Fed.
	It's right here, Carrie.
	It's right here.
	He's a double agent, you said.
	Juan said he was a Fed.
	No, no, no, you said a double agent.
	All right, listen, we can verify it.
	We can verify everything by the text.
	Now, here's something else.
	Who's Juan?
	JFK Jr., but, you know, that's... Well, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	You said he's a high-ranking military official, intelligence official.
	Okay.
	So, in other words, when Juan's trying to pretend to be this or JFK Jr., which is five, which I think is clearly not the case, But he's a military, a high rank.
	Is he a general in the military?
	I was told exclusively that he is at least a general and maybe higher.
	Okay.
	So in other words, he hasn't been honest with the people out there on who his identity is.
	He's in hiding.
	He's in hiding.
	He's not in hiding.
	He's in a fat Santa suit and he's calling himself JFK.
	I mean, listen.
	Well, let's clarify that.
	He doesn't call himself JFK, okay?
	So he does not want people to know that.
	I'm one of the main journalists who has outed him as JFK Jr.
	because people had a right to know.
	Well, you know something?
	If people had a right to know, we agree.
	No one knows he's a high-ranking general in military intelligence.
	I've said it.
	I've said it on my shows.
	Well, then I'm thankful that you did, because no one else seems to know who he is now.
	This is how the White House operates.
	They operate in secret.
	That's why I'm saying General Flynn may have been General Flynn may have been portrayed as a Fed or any other member of the CIA or whatever it is.
	A high-ranking general himself.
	Let's establish this.
	Flynn is a Fed and a double agent and that Juan is a general in military intelligence.
	In fact, Juan Flynn answers the Juan.
	Is that right?
	It's my conjecture, that's my point of view.
	Alright, here's another thing too, very important.
	You know, and we've communicated... And to Trump, by the way.
	Sorry, and to Trump.
	I believe Flynn would report to Juan and to Trump.
	Okay, alright.
	Now, with Flynn and my evidence, when I said That I was called from the Oval Office by Flynn on December 18th, as you know, and I showed screenshots of that.
	You know that's true, don't you?
	That Flynn took my evidence.
	Sure.
	And you also, We Communication, said that Flynn was hiding some of the evidence from Trump.
	I have a secret witness who has given me information to that effect, but I don't know if my agent, this person who's reported to me, Trump is also misled.
	In other words, he could be wrong.
	What I'm saying to you is, that is exactly what happened.
	Trump was never to see my evidence.
	So that person that was telling you hidden was exactly that.
	Now, what you know is, you know I'm Pandora's Box, and you know that Trump knows me, about me.
	Isn't that correct? 100%.
	Okay, and you know I've been trying to save the President and save children and child trafficking.
	Yes, of course.
	You know I'm not a bad guy.
	So is Juan, and so are Flynn, Juan, and Trump.
	Well, I'm going to show you something about that.
	It might shock you, all right?
	So, we know Flynn took my evidence.
	We know he's not giving it all up, or I'm suggesting, and you have a witness that says that, which is why it's setting up Trump.
	And that Trump knows me, the Pandora's box, but that's why also a lot of the podcasters under the Flynn wing turned around and never attacked my evidence.
	Because that evidence, as you know, is needed.
	Isn't that true?
	Meaning if you attack me, you don't want to dismiss the evidence I have, because that is the way in financially to the deep state.
	Would you agree with that?
	Yes, but my understanding is that Juan is fully aware of your evidence, and that Trump is probably aware of your evidence as well.
	Now, listen, now we disagree because you know something?
	That evidence, they didn't save Trump.
	On January 6th, it was Flynn that set this up.
	It was Flynn.
	And I have evidence and proof that Flynn intercepted that evidence.
	And Juan himself agreed to that.
	That's what Nino said, I know here.
	Well, he heard that and he knows that.
	So here's what I'm going to tell you too, and this is critical.
	When we had talked and you had mentioned that Juan was working with Flynn with human child trafficking.
	All of the White Hats are working to alleviate child trafficking, to rescue children in underground bases.
	Right.
	What we talked about, we're saying the high-secret military thing.
	They are working to stop child trafficking, human trafficking, and criminals.
	You have the same goals.
	Trump-Wann are very close.
	General Flynn plays both sides, but ultimately to Wann and Trump.
	Okay.
	Now, you ready?
	Have you heard of Evergreen?
	Yes.
	Flynn's Evergreen.
	All right.
	Ready?
	Ready?
	Do you know Brent Long?
	I know a Brent.
	I'm not sure if I know a Brent Long.
	A guy from Utah who believes in JFK Jr.
	And then he puts a thumb hit in there.
	Well, it's all over the Internet.
	Brent Long.
	Okay.
	Brent Long is saying, you know, Flynn and Flynn Kennedy and children.
	And all right.
	Then And that's in Utah, home of Corn Hub trafficking.
	They just moved the operation to Canada.
	Now, let's go to Canada.
	Ready?
	In Canada, do you know a guy named Guy Brummel?
	I've heard the name.
	In what context?
	I don't know.
	I don't have detail on him.
	Child trafficker?
	Perhaps.
	Perhaps.
	Okay.
	Now, let's go to Guy Brummel.
	Guy Brummel is wanted all over Canada.
	Okay.
	His story is his daughter was kidnapped, beaten and raped by the Evergreen.
	And he shows the shipping containers and the fact there's children in there and so forth.
	And Evergreen being a codename for Hillary Clinton.
	All right.
	So with Brummel now, he's on the run.
	But General Flynn has a list, a list of his digital warriors, and their orders are to go after these child traffickers and human traffickers.
	And on this list is Agent Margaritaville, Guy Brummel.
	Now, Guy Brummel, in response, one of the digital warriors go, General, Rumble one of the good guys.
	He works for us.
	He was working with you in field McDonald.
	Okay, so they're identifying him their own people as as as as Rumble is one of their own.
	Okay.
	He is one of their own, but he's getting arrested multiple places, and a guy like that gets arrested could flip on Flynn and the whole outfit, just like they would do in the Mafia.
	You can't sell drugs, but if you get busted, right?
	It was the same thing here.
	So now Brummel's on the run.
	Do you know who he runs to?
	From Ontario.
	He drives all the way to Ann Vander Steele's home in Florida.
	All right.
	Moves in there for a few days.
	Three days to be exact.
	Now how is it that a pedophile identified and a trafficker identified by Flynn himself as the enemy and then re-identified as that he's working with Flynn?
	And you see this guy talking about the Evergreen.
	His daughter was never kidnapped.
	He beat and raped her.
	Brummel.
	That was one of the things they were wanting him for.
	So now the big question is, How does Brawl wind up in Inventor Seals' house?
	Okay, can I break in here to say one thing?
	All right, but Brummel would have called Flynn.
	I'll listen to you.
	Brummel would have called Flynn to protect them.
	Flynn gives them VanderSteel.
	VanderSteel, why?
	Because VanderSteel's about 30 minutes to Mar-a-Lago.
	What did they do with VanderSteel?
	They took Brummel to Mar-a-Lago to hide him, and Trump said, arrest him, and he went into ICE.
	Okay?
	So Brummel is a very important witness that ties in Flynn.
	And do you know who worked with this guy long back then in human trafficking?
	And we talk about, well, that was Juan, too.
	So the Juan team, meaning the Juan team, which started with Long, and I posted the video of them working together, okay?
	And he's selling Juan as JFK Jr.
	in April of 21.
	As soon as they invaded this Patriot Network with the same people, the same people that were networked with Flynn.
	Listen, Army Intelligence could be the Defense Intelligence Agency, the same agency that Flynn came out of, and multiple people in the Absolutely.
	I just needed to tell the end of that story because it was too important to end.
	Absolutely.
	Hold on one sec.
	Let me just facilitate a little bit here.
	Let me, cause Mike, you've been laying out a lot of stuff.
	So let's give Carrie an opportunity here to respond.
	Absolutely.
	I just needed to, I want.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's all fascinating.
	No, I appreciate that.
	I just want to make sure Carrie has an opportunity before too much is laid out and we can know, but we're talking children.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Slow down.
	I, I just want to say this, okay, what I have found in my interactions over the last, I don't know, since 2016 and before, okay, my interactions with Trump and this group, and I have to say that I was also working with the White Hats Years before, even maybe going back as far as 2010, okay, with some white hats behind the scenes.
	And I knew about their organization back then, okay, before most people.
	And I have to say that there is one member, his name is Paladin, You can see my videos with him.
	Okay, so we did videos together.
	They're all still out there.
	And Paladin used to also do his own videos.
	He was part of what was part of the White Hats, which they called the White Hats Reports, and they were outing a lot of financial fraud, okay, with documents.
	It was all about documents for them.
	Anyway, so I already had a background on the White Hats and some of the members.
	When Wano Savin came forward, I only became aware of him and I interviewed him in January, okay?
	Did he come to you as JFK?
	No, not at all.
	He's always been in hiding, always, okay?
	He's been in hiding since they made the attempt on his life.
	Okay, when did you meet Juan initially?
	You said January?
	When was that exactly?
	Okay, it's either 2020 or 2021.
	I'm sorry, I don't have it right in front of me.
	You know, you can go on my website.
	The date is very clear on it.
	Mike, just so I'm clear, when was the first time that you met Juan 07?
	I'd say, well you know what, I think I met Kerry around March.
	So I'd say it was around the same time.
	I interviewed you, Mike.
	My interview is dated—I think you and I—I interviewed you, I think, this year in March of 2023.
	March.
	Right, March this year, I believe.
	Yes.
	So that was the first time you ever really were in contact with Juan, was that it?
	Juan reached out to me.
	I had no—I didn't know who Juan was.
	All right, I'm sorry to interrupt, Carrie.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, what I want to do is explain that when we're talking DEA agents, we're talking these child trafficking, you know, there's this the film that actually Juan helped finance and get out from to Hollywood, which is called You know, uh, silence of freedom.
	Sounds of silence.
	I'm sorry.
	And you know something?
	I'm not buying silence of freedom.
	And you know what?
	The people that are looking for these people are generally the culprits.
	I'm just trying to tell you my opinion.
	What I'm trying to describe here is that those people, those men that are involved in rescuing children, often have to pose as child traffickers in order to Okay, one thing.
	Would you believe the people who are the child traffickers would appear to be the good guys using the same theory?
	Absolutely.
	Right?
	It's possible.
	Possible?
	It's possible they go both ways.
	You know, I'm just going to tell you that this is, if we were going to, you know, put one of these people like Brummel on trial, we would need all the evidence on both sides of the case, okay?
	I have a mountain of evidence.
	I'm not going to do that right now because I don't have that evidence.
	I don't have that information.
	And I'm not asking you to.
	I'm not asking you to.
	But I'm saying it's this serious.
	But I want to throw a little light on the facts.
	Can I ask you one thing?
	Yeah.
	Do you believe the military is involved in child trafficking?
	I believe our military is highly infiltrated and portions of it are working for the UN.
	Portions of it are working for the CCP.
	Portions of it are working under the Biden Show.
	Do you believe they're involved in child trafficking?
	And that's very possible.
	It's very possible.
	Okay.
	Not all of it, okay?
	Not the Trump division, okay?
	The division that's loyal to Trump, which is mainly Space Force and those in Cheyenne Mountain.
	Why aren't they stopping the child trafficking?
	The United States is ground zero for child trafficking.
	That's right.
	Opioids.
	Money laundering.
	Where is the military?
	If the military is protecting and trafficking children, it's a crime against God and it's treasonous.
	All I have to know is that.
	That has to be investigated.
	We're not having to protect our children.
	So I'm opening that door because I know where it's behind that door.
	How about we ask Ann VanderSteel what Rommel is doing at her house?
	All right, hold on a second, hold on.
	I don't want to get too far off of one point, because I want to give Carrie the opportunity to just to respond to some of the things that you've said and then we'll continue.
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	Go ahead, Carrie, continue.
	At this point, we have to look at the White Hats and how they operate.
	The one thing is key, and this is true also of DEA agents and all of these kinds of agents, as well as child traffickers, And the ones who are fighting it, they often pose as the person from the other side in order to infiltrate the organization.
	You understand that kind of operation, right?
	I'm telling you, not only do I understand it, what you're calling the good guys is the evil operation in PSYOP.
	I'm saying- Sometimes, sometimes they may actually be the bad guys, I agree, but not always, okay?
	So we have some good guys- I'm just telling you this time, That's who Flynn is.
	That's exactly who Flynn is.
	But I understand that Flynn himself has a family.
	I understand that Flynn is, like I said, he has to often, as part of his job, he plays the dark side.
	I do believe that, do you remember that Trump got Flynn out of jail?
	Out of prison.
	It was tied to human trafficking in Okinawa.
	And I posted that today, too.
	And they had to put him, Flynn, in because of the Keno situation.
	And he was tied into Flynn and child trafficking.
	How's that?
	We don't, we can't, see, we can't try somebody on these.
	No, I'm not trying him.
	I'm calling them out.
	I think that's valid.
	Listen, let me tell you, I'm just trying to talk about White Hat tactics and they may object.
	But you're saying the White Hats, I'm telling you the White Hats, you're talking about the government.
	Flynn is a Fed.
	And you're telling one is a military general.
	Our government is pretending to be something else.
	So think about this.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Time out a second.
	Time out.
	I just want to give both sides.
	I mean, so, Mike, I get I get your passion.
	I do.
	Just one point.
	We'll come back to you.
	But you got to let Kerry.
	All right.
	I will.
	But just this one point.
	We're trusting the government.
	Now, do we remember the intelligence agencies of this country turning around and saying, China wasn't the enemy, Russia wasn't, the drug cartels wasn't, no, the conservatives, people that follow Trump.
	So, do you believe that these intelligence agents, we would attack us?
	That's what January 6th is.
	That is the PSYOP that's doing in this Christian Patriot movement.
	That's true.
	Look, I'm a patriot.
	I'm one of the people that they would attack, okay?
	So, I understand that.
	But I want you to understand that we don't, when you say our government, we don't have a government, okay?
	Our government is basically infiltrated and taken over when our election was stolen, okay, in 2020.
	At that point, and I've talked about this, the Law of War Manual, that is basically our version of the Geneva Convention, said that our troops could either go in and take the invaders down, and that would include Biden.
	These people are traitors.
	They're not our government, okay?
	So that's at the crux of what we're talking about here.
	The people that you say are our government, they are not our government.
	They're not loyal to the American people.
	In fact, they voted against investigating the stolen election.
	Over half of Congress, that's basically the Brunson case, is all about that.
	Those people are traitors because they voted against investigating what I believe Radcliffe had made very clear.
	He's head of the intelligence agencies that The basic seven, I think there's at least seven major intelligence agencies, and he came forward and finally said that there's evidence that the CCP was involved in basically taking over our country and taking down So when he said that, then he said it before Congress, and Congress should have stopped everything.
	They shouldn't have inaugurated Biden.
	They should have basically, at that point, I can tell you why they didn't.
	And I think they had 10 days at that point.
	They were supposed to investigate for 10 days.
	They all refused to do that.
	That makes them traitors.
	Okay.
	And Juan has talked about- I can tell you why.
	I can tell you why they didn't.
	You ready?
	Part of the Flynn crew was Field McConnell, who got caught leveraging a congressman with some kiddie porn.
	Now, do you know what they do?
	Blackmail and extortion?
	They leverage 90% of Congress, which is why Stone goes around with a madam and so does Flynn.
	They're leveraging them criminally, sexually, with videotapes.
	They own Congress.
	That's what Flynn's team was doing.
	And that's why he wants to keep control of the Pandora's box, to leverage and blackmail with their money.
	This is a blackmail operation.
	What I'm telling you, there is no government.
	There is no government.
	There is no White Hats.
	There is no White Hats.
	It's misdirection.
	It's lies.
	It's psyops.
	I don't agree.
	Okay.
	If they could attack this movement, we believe that, right?
	Who would they use?
	Maybe a head of the DIA?
	Maybe a general in the army in the Miller Intelligence?
	And here we are with the same people who flipped on Trump?
	Listen, it walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck.
	He's a duck.
	It's that simple.
	And he's not JFK.
	Don't you still think Juan's JFK Jr.?
	How can you be practical in this?
	I've had long conversations with him.
	I've met him in person several times.
	You know, he's five inches taller, right?
	And I've also had this validated by other people.
	By saying that, you're disqualifying yourself.
	So let's put it this way, you ready?
	JFK Jr.
	has managed to make himself a general in the military intelligence.
	Yes, I have.
	I have documented, we have some photographic evidence that indicates that he was- It's not true.
	It's not true.
	Listen, and I don't mean to be insulting.
	I'm not trying to be.
	It's all right.
	I mean, it doesn't matter to me whether people believe you or not- But it's not true.
	But our boy in Utah, he believes the same thing.
	And he believes Flynn.
	And he's selling one from across the country.
	It's the same people with the same people with Brummel.
	I am telling you, he is not JFK Jr.
	This man has got to turn.
	I have an idea.
	You got to let Carrie talk.
	You got to let her talk.
	Go ahead.
	I believe that you don't understand the White Hat operation, okay?
	And it's understandable that you wouldn't because they have been in hiding and they do everything behind closed doors.
	Everything is secret.
	And they also play a lot of roles, okay?
	So, they want you to be deceived.
	They want to deceive people because they are dealing with the cabal.
	What I call the Cabal, or you could call it the Deep State, you could call it the Illuminati, but we, our world, has been completely taken over by what are called dark magicians in collusion with all, all the, you know, the, the royal families, etc.
	And this has been going on for centuries, all right?
	And they have- I call it corrupt bullshitters.
	Corrupt bullshitters that work in intelligence.
	Well, the intelligence agencies are part of it, and it's true.
	And so is the Vatican, by the way.
	So, we're talking about a network.
	These guys are playing con men.
	You know what?
	They go up on stage.
	Twins asking for quarters.
	Clay Carton wants you to drain gas out of your car.
	Asking for quarters is nothing.
	It's immoral.
	It's immoral for people who don't have it.
	I mean, I don't like it.
	Okay, I'm not a fan of that.
	I'm not a fan of it.
	What's immoral is they pretended to represent Trump when they were using his name, and they were stealing and ripping all these people off for his own campaign.
	No, Juan is completely loyal to Trump.
	Absolutely.
	100%.
	He's the one, and with Nino, who gave the floor to Joe Flynn, who Joe Flynn flips on Trump, goes over to Kennedy.
	And watch, me and you talked about the Kennedy-Flynn thing, and you know what you said?
	I mean, Flynn and Kennedy.
	You know what you told me?
	I'm talking about General Flynn.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Let's talk about that.
	Do you remember what you told me when I said it's going to be Flynn-Kennedy?
	Do you remember what you told me?
	Only if Juan and Trump ask them to do that.
	Oh, so Trump's going to have to, because they're going to have a gun to his head, and Juan is already in the pocket of our boy Flynn.
	But it's not going to happen, because you don't understand.
	Wait a minute, you said it was.
	I'll show you the text.
	See, if you don't know the Kennedy family is involved in this... Wait a minute, you said Flynn and Kennedy is going to happen.
	The only thing you had to say... No, I don't agree with it.
	I've got the text.
	I don't.
	Yes, you do.
	No, I said if it was to happen, then it would be under order.
	This is what you said.
	I didn't say it was going to happen.
	There's a difference.
	If Trump and Juan turned around and wanted Flynn to run, he would run with Kennedy.
	But they don't.
	They don't.
	Okay, they don't.
	Yes, they will.
	Oh, Juan doesn't want Flynn to run?
	Are you kidding me?
	It's a joke.
	It's a joke.
	He doesn't.
	It's obvious.
	How about this?
	Kerry, I want to hear... Mike, hold on a second.
	I promise you we're going to get... I will come back to you, but you keep interrupting Kerry, and you have to give her an opportunity to just lay this out.
	I don't want to have to mute people's microphones, but if we have to go in that direction, I mean, you know, we can't just talk over each other.
	All right.
	Just give Kerry an opportunity to say what she wants to say, and then I'll gladly come back to you.
	You do know what's being said here.
	I'm trying to give you... I understand that, but you have to give... Okay, let me explain one thing.
	I am an investigative journalist, okay?
	And I go through a lot of research in order to get to the conclusions I have.
	And I've also had whistleblowers from Above Top Secret for 20 years that I've interviewed.
	And you come up with JFK Jr.? ?
	Yeah, why don't you pay attention?
	I sent you a photograph of his disguise.
	Right, a Santa Claus.
	That's a disguise.
	That is a disguise.
	You must agree with that, right?
	This is what I agree with.
	I believe a disguise The purpose is that you don't know the person behind it, but when you tell everybody in the disguise it's JFK Jr., it defeats the purpose of the disguise.
	Look, I've demonstrated all of this very clearly.
	I documented it again recently on my Telegram channel.
	That's not the purpose of this discussion, but there is one key element.
	I forbid logic.
	Let me finish.
	When you think that General Flynn wants to be president and that he's going to be with RFK, RFK is related to John F. Kennedy Jr.
	You do know that.
	They're Kennedys.
	You understand that, right?
	That family is very closely aligned.
	There's no way that RFK Let me finish, let me finish.
	There's no way that RFK would run against Trump.
	Unless he was going to lead the race in one direction, then throw all his votes over to Trump at the last minute.
	You gotta understand how the game is played.
	Trump is out.
	Flynn's in.
	He's not out.
	He's not out.
	You're wrong.
	Did you see the post of Flynn and Snow today?
	Look, you and I disagree on some things.
	Alright, alright.
	Did you see the post of- I think that Trump is going to be given the immunity defense.
	I believe he is going to be.
	Well, you know what?
	That's more like insanity.
	Okay, but you've got to let me finish, okay?
	The reason he's going to be given the immunity defense is because Obama goes down, Clinton goes down, and all the rest of these criminals who came before him.
	If they don't have the immunity defense, they're going down, and the cabal cannot have that, okay?
	So this is why they have to hold up the immunity and why presidents have such a thing.
	Okay.
	Can I speak to that?
	The Trump is going to get the immunity defense as far as I'm concerned.
	All right.
	It's nuts.
	And I'll tell you why.
	Ready?
	One, the D.C.
	court has overruled the immunity.
	That's one.
	The appeals court, January 9th, will do the same.
	They're all corrupt.
	They own the court.
	Wait a minute now.
	You ready?
	Well, the courts are corrupt, that's for sure.
	Wait a minute.
	Do you know the appeal you're talking about that'll go to the Supreme Court?
	Yeah.
	The grounds of the appeal is we have election fraud.
	So we're going to assume the Supreme Court's going to turn around and go, okay guys, he wins.
	We have election fraud.
	It's impossible.
	It's the kill shot.
	Now, did you see Flynn today?
	That's hypothetical.
	Come on, now.
	Did you see Flynn and Stone together, right?
	And said, Flynn and Stone said, if Trump's not running, we're running General Flynn, and they're both making a muscle.
	It is the plan.
	And what happens is, you don't have to believe me, it's going to happen.
	It's going to happen sooner than later.
	It's a white hat operation.
	You're not understanding the players.
	They're on the wall.
	The white hat?
	You mean trafficking children?
	He's wearing a white hat?
	It's not.
	Roger Stone's a white hat?
	No, you don't understand these men.
	You don't understand them.
	Oh, yes, I do.
	I don't think you do.
	I don't think you're listening.
	Listen, I hope you don't.
	That's what I'm saying to you.
	I hope you don't.
	I hope.
	Okay, continue.
	I just want to let's put this this subject of RFK and Flynn as a team to bed.
	As far as I'm concerned, other people may agree with you, Mike, that's fine.
	But I just want to tell you intelligence, a general and the other is a double agent fed.
	There you go.
	Those are the two.
	That's Flynn.
	Robert Kennedy is not a military general, as far as I know.
	Wait a minute, I didn't say Robert Kennedy, JFK Jr.
	We're talking about an election in which General Flynn would side with RFK, Robert Kennedy.
	Exactly.
	And you know how he does it?
	He runs as an independent.
	And Robert Kennedy is not a general.
	I didn't say it that general.
	I said, you said one was a general.
	Let's get this right.
	Okay, good.
	So now we're correct.
	Now we're both on the same page.
	Robert Kennedy will turn around as an independent.
	Flynn will run with Robert Kennedy.
	Flynn and Kennedy is already in the general election.
	And you know something?
	I ain't guessing.
	And what happened?
	How about this?
	Kerry, when that happens, are you going to change your mind?
	When that happens, what are you going to say?
	Alright, alright, hold on a second.
	I have an object here because this is kind of going off the rails.
	We're not allowing one person to talk.
	Mike, you keep... I mean, I want to hear what you have to say.
	That's why you're on the show, but you're not allowing... You understand you're sitting on history.
	You're interrupting.
	Turning around and getting to those points, you understand this is a setup.
	You understand Juan and Flynn not only bagged Trump, but ran this whole network, lying to people.
	Juan's a fucking general.
	Flynn's the feds, a double agent.
	You want to hear Kerry's perspective because you don't understand how the White Hats are operating, then you may come to those conclusions.
	I understand that.
	But the fact of the matter is, is that you're not understanding the organization.
	And it goes back to the Q drops.
	You know Q?
	You probably don't believe Q, right?
	You probably don't think Q is a real thing?
	What's your deal with Q?
	Well, you're not turning Q on me.
	I'll tell you what I do believe.
	I'm just telling you.
	How about this?
	This is a movement.
	Wait a minute.
	You asked me about Q. How about this?
	Do you believe that I'm Pandora's Box and I mail these guys all their finances?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I don't know about you.
	Maybe they're... I hope they're good guys and we're fighting on the same team, but I don't trust intelligence infiltrating all entities.
	I can tell you I'm on a path to take the snake off the head.
	The head off the snake.
	All right.
	I'm going to go ahead and let you, Mike, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to mute you while she talks.
	You're not allowing her to get a word in here.
	I'll sort of finish up.
	We're not all done.
	We're all done with you interjecting constantly and not giving her an opportunity.
	One at a time.
	And I don't think you understand what you're hearing.
	Yes, we do.
	We do.
	You know what?
	I think the people will.
	Yeah, I hope they do.
	They'll understand.
	Okay, go ahead, Gary.
	All I'm trying to do, listen, all I'm trying to do is explain what I know, and I know this from my heart, okay?
	I have interacted with Juan numerous times.
	I have met him in person numerous times, okay?
	And I know him to be a very good, loving man.
	That's my point of view of him, okay?
	You can disagree, you know, you can say I'm completely deluded, The same thing now with Flynn.
	I don't know Flynn.
	I cannot say I've never met Flynn in person.
	All I know is some of the things that I have investigated and I believe that Flynn has his entire career been trained as what you call a double agent.
	Then you have to figure out who the double agent is actually loyal to.
	And in this case, Flynn, I believe, okay, this is my conjecture, is that Flynn is beholden to Trump because he made a deal with him, he got him out of jail.
	And at that point, I would say that Trump would have said to Flynn, I'll get you out of jail, but you're going to make a deal with me and the deal is going to be you be loyal to me As a general in the U.S.
	military from then on, and I'm sure that Flynn said yes, at that point he came over to the White Hat side for good.
	Whether or not he had vacillated, gone back and forth, I don't know.
	You are conjecturing that there is no White Hat side, in essence.
	You are conjecturing that there are no good guys, and I know a lot of people who say that, but they're wrong.
	We in MAGA follow Trump and the White Hats, and we believe firmly that this is a group that is backed by the Space Force, and Space Force has taken over Cheyenne Mountain, and that they are basically running a secret covert battle against the what we call the deep state cabal Illuminati.
	Okay, who have already taken over our country.
	Okay, we're invaded by the CCP.
	They're coming in through our borders, the Chinese, I even had dreams about this years ago.
	So I have to tell you that this is real, this is all happening, and you're right in seeing some of the things that you see out there, but you do not understand that there is a white hat movement, that it is backed by patriots like myself, And that we are not being deceived by the leaders of that movement.
	And one of the leaders of that movement is 107.
	Another leader is Trump.
	And General Flynn basically reports to both of them and maybe some hidden other generals, because I know they've got, they say there's, you know, a certain number of generals that are loyal to Trump.
	Whoever's loyal to Trump is a white hat general, okay, the way we put it in those words.
	So if you understand there is a movement, then you have to understand what is their approach to fighting the deep state.
	And what it has been and what it continues to be is to go into hiding and disguise and play both sides.
	To hide Go into the cabal to go into secret organizations.
	For example, Rogers was head of the NSA.
	Okay, you know who Rogers is?
	I don't know if you know who he is.
	He's head of the NSA.
	Trump, I mean, Juan just talked about him the other night, okay, on video.
	You can go back and watch it and listen.
	And he said, and he said this many times on shows, so this is not the first time he said it, but he said Rogers, as head of the NSA, had been playing a bad guy in order to get to the top post of the NSA for many, many years.
	And that they didn't even know that he was playing both sides until he came forward.
	He knocked on Trump's door right after Trump was inaugurated, apparently, and he turned and joined the White Hats.
	And he gave evidence that Trump was being spied on by the dark side.
	Okay?
	So he broke ranks with the general NSA, and he basically turned and joined the White Hats.
	This is what Juan has said, okay?
	He's told this story many times, and in telling Trump that he had evidence and showing him the evidence of how Trump's campaign was spied on at every juncture, this is how this guy, Rogers, head of the NSA, broke ranks and came over to the White Hats, okay?
	That's just one example.
	There are many.
	There are many They are infiltrators.
	who have had to change sides, who used to work even for, you know, the Biden administration, which is run by someone else, basically the CCP in hiding, and also what we call the, you know, the dark deep space Illuminati, okay?
	That government is not our government.
	They are infiltrators.
	They are traitors.
	And they actually could be killed.
	Now, our military, a lot of the military is still loyal to the Biden, what I call it the Biden show, okay, for short, to the Biden show.
	The Biden show has been running our country to the ground, as a matter of fact.
	I cannot talk for Christ's sakes, man.
	And not be muted.
	First of all, there are white hats.
	They're called the American people.
	There's 330 million of them.
	I'm one of them.
	Excuse me.
	Our government is head to toe, and that's including Flynn in the military.
	If they weren't so corrupt, why are our borders open?
	Why do we have the worst- We don't understand the operation.
	Will you let me talk?
	Yes.
	Mute her.
	Now, we muted me, right?
	Well, she's allowing you to talk.
	You're not allowing her.
	That's the only reason I did it.
	You just let her ramble bullshit!
	Now put me the fuck back on!
	Well, if you're going to be rude, Mike, we'll just wind it down.
	Do you want to screen this down?
	Listen, I'll finish it.
	There are no white hats.
	It's the American people.
	It's our government trafficking children.
	If there are good people, why aren't they stopping that trafficking?
	Why aren't they stopping these cartels?
	Why aren't they stopping these borders?
	And do you know why I know more than anybody?
	Because I've sat with this evidence for 10 years and gone to the Department of Justice.
	You've seen me give it to the FBI in each and every way.
	That's what you see it.
	And I showed that the intelligence agencies are corrupt.
	And we are being attacked by these intelligence agencies.
	What you're hearing is misdirection.
	It's a psyop.
	The White House is coming.
	The White House is coming.
	Trump is leveraged out.
	Get it through your heads.
	Stop listening to fucking fairy tales and turning around and read the board.
	What did we're Swami say today?
	There's a Trojan horse.
	It's the own Republican Party.
	Who do you think the Trojan horse is but Flynn?
	Flynn will run, and it will be Kennedy.
	And I want you everybody to know when you see that move, know that this was already in the plan.
	And all of this was horseshit.
	Misdirection.
	And the next thing you know, they stole your money.
	They put him in office.
	Investigate these people.
	I gave you Brummel.
	There are no white hats.
	We've been sold out.
	Tell me what happens.
	Did the military move drugs from Vietnam to this country?
	Did the military guard Afghanistan feels and bring heroin to this country.
	What about the Fast and Furious?
	It wasn't the government and the cartels.
	The same John Sununu then who ran it.
	Chris Sununu is the key master of that network in New Hampshire.
	It's the same bloodlines.
	It's the same people.
	Our government is fully controlled and corrupted.
	The ones that aren't are targeted for blackmail.
	That's how this operation works.
	Do not believe in false hopes.
	You are listening to an FBI double, I mean, a federal double agent in Flynn, the perfect person to run this.
	You're hearing Juan never ever being who he was at a time that you have to.
	If you believe he's JFK Jr., you've got to keep sharp things away from your children.
	This thing here is a move to have you by as a false flag, which is why all of a sudden Juan's not being forthcoming and saying we're in disguise.
	And you missed the whole principle of the disguise.
	It's to be in disguise.
	It's baloney.
	It was a false flag.
	And these people fell for it.
	They danced on stage like they would with preachers.
	And you know what they'll do?
	Quote the Bible.
	Do you know what these pedophiles do?
	And these trial traffickers?
	Quote the Bible.
	Quote the Bible.
	Protecting children.
	I am telling you what this is.
	Can I talk now?
	Yes.
	I couldn't talk, but go ahead.
	No, you've talked.
	We've heard you.
	Thank you.
	I understand where you're coming from, okay?
	I understand how it looks to the most of the public.
	I've actually argued with the White Hats about the way they chose to hide from everyone.
	It's been a problem, okay?
	It's not like it's not a problem.
	But you're getting the wrong idea.
	You actually, you've like got half the story and you don't understand the other half.
	So the other half is that they have basically stayed in hiding.
	They haven't acted on these things that you're talking about.
	They've allowed the border to be open when Trump is Commander-in-Chief.
	He is right now Commander-in-Chief of this country.
	Okay?
	And Jan Halper, Hayes... Why don't he give himself immunity?
	Give him self-immunity, Commander-in-Chief, right?
	I'm just, he's Commander-in-Chief, and by the way, when I finish, okay, as Commander-in-Chief, who is Commander-in-Chief who dissolved the Corporation of the United States while he was still in office, and you can look up the documentation, he put our Republic back into working order.
	And he basically has stayed as president of our republic.
	And he is commander in chief.
	And he's got all the codes.
	Okay.
	And those codes, Biden would love to have in this CCP.
	Okay.
	But he's kept them safe and away from those criminals.
	All right.
	So that's where we're at.
	Okay.
	Trump.
	Wait, I have one more thing to say, just one sentence, and then you can talk.
	Trump is commander in chief.
	And you know what that means?
	That means that General Flynn reports to him.
	That's how it works in the military.
	General Flynn reports to Trump.
	That's it.
	You understand that?
	So then why don't Trump give himself immunity?
	You know, wave the wand!
	This is not how the White Hatch operate, because in the end of the day... Oh, no, he's trying to go through court and have all his assets frozen.
	If you ask me a question, I'll answer it.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	You asked me.
	How does he turn around and have all his assets frozen?
	How does he go through?
	We could always... He's... Okay, it's an act, okay?
	It's allowing... He's going through this for an act, right?
	Yes.
	So, in other words, his children go through it, the assets go through it, and it's all an act.
	And he's setting them Okay, wait, let me finish.
	Do you know what it's like to set a trap for a bad guy?
	Yes, I'm doing it.
	All right.
	Well, that's what Trump's doing.
	That's what the White Hats have been doing.
	They've been setting a trap to ensnare all of the bad guys and the traitors of our government.
	So what happens in a couple days when Trump's forced to resign and move on?
	Is he still the Commander-in-Chief?
	Is he still the Commander-in-Chief then?
	It's a good thing we're having this discussion now and not three years ago, okay?
	Because we're going to know any day who's right and who's wrong, I believe.
	They've got to come forward.
	The White Hats, I have asked the White Hats to come forward, to come clean to the American people over and over again.
	So in a sense, we're on the same page, but you don't understand what I know.
	Trump is still commander-in-chief.
	He is actually still president, okay?
	And the military that are loyal to him report to him in that vein, all right?
	And they are under orders to him.
	The rest of the military are all traitors, and they follow the generals that are like Milley, who are traitors to our country, okay?
	And they are under the Biden Show regime.
	Now, why have the White Hats allowed the borders to stay open?
	Trump could have closed them because he's Commander-in-Chief, remember?
	He allowed it to stay open all this time because they want to show the people, the American people, what they would get if they allow the Biden Show to continue to take over our country.
	Let me answer that, please.
	By opening, so if I'm understanding what you said, Trump, as the Commander-in-Chief, allowed the borders to be open And he's like seven, eight million terrorist cartel members traveling, well wait a minute, okay, into the country because he wants to entrap them.
	Well, this is what I would tell you.
	How are you going to get the eight million out?
	Is he responsible for every overdose?
	Is he responsible for every child trafficking?
	Is he responsible for the terrorist attacks?
	Listen, you hold the border, you don't turn around and say, hey, let's experiment.
	We'll turn these 8 million terrorists who are so loose on the American people to teach them a lesson and say, see?
	It's crazy.
	I realize.
	You're damn right it's crazy.
	But it's real.
	If he's the commander-in-chief, right?
	Why don't we take out these child traffickers?
	Wait a minute, I'm just saying.
	Listen, I answered what you were just saying.
	So if he's the Commander-in-Chief, why doesn't he take out the child traffickers or the waiting to set them up and having containers full of children before we act?
	I act on the first baby.
	I don't like it any more than you do, but I understand why they're doing that to me.
	But you're saying that's happening too with the child traffickers.
	They're catching some of the bad guys.
	They're putting them on tribunals and in Guantanamo, etc.
	Do we know of somebody that went to Guantanamo Bay, really?
	Gitmo, Gitmo, Gitmo?
	Now listen, are we saying that we're showing, by Trump going after, as the Commander-in-Chief, these child traffickers?
	He's showing a lesson.
	He's setting them up.
	And thousands and thousands of little children are losing their organs and their lives have been fed to these animals.
	Well, you know what?
	Listen, there are no deals when it comes to that.
	If there's a hill I'm going to die on, it's that hill right there.
	All right.
	I'm with you 100% on that, Mike.
	But listen, can I talk now for a minute, just for a minute, to say what I want to show you is the white hat thinking, okay?
	They've explained it to the American people who are willing to listen.
	Most of it is in the Q drops, but it also is explained by Wano Savin and a few other spokespeople out there.
	But the bottom line is that when the election was stolen, Trump had a choice.
	That's the insurrection choice, right?
	That on December 18th, they had a meeting, and Trump had a chance at that point to- Do you remember who Flynn called in that meeting?
	Do you remember who Flynn called me in that meeting?
	I know, look, I- Okay.
	I know those players.
	I've interviewed, um, I forget his name, but- But you know they reached out for me from the Oval Office, Flynn and Powell, right?
	I've showed you the texts.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What I'm trying to tell you is why they didn't do the insurrection act and why they have stood down the troops all this time from taking our government back.
	Because they set up the insurrection to fail.
	Wait.
	Wait.
	I know you're not going to agree with me.
	Do you believe Flynn didn't have anything to do with the setting up of January 6th?
	Do you believe that Flynn had nothing to do with that?
	I believe that that was a Democrat operation.
	How about this?
	Flynn was on the phone with his team with me every day from the 18th to the 7th.
	They were putting it together.
	Those were the January 6th people.
	Those were the planning.
	That was Ketchel.
	That was Carissa.
	That was Peruccio.
	These are the people that I talked to.
	What was the Flynn team?
	I don't know Flynn's role in that.
	I know nothing about Flynn's role.
	It's the same thing that remember remember you said you were saying Flynn was hiding some of my evidence in the text?
	Flynn didn't give it to Trump.
	He intercepted my evidence not to save Trump because they knew that I was the Pandora Box.
	You know that they knew that.
	You also know they tried to murder me a bunch of times too that people don't know.
	They've also tried to murder Juan and Trump um you know probably as many times as they tried to murder you.
	Yeah well I'm not sure about about One.
	Okay, well I know that for a fact because I have some background information.
	I have one sentence to finish and then you can talk the rest of the time as far as I'm concerned.
	I want you to understand that during that choice that Trump made not to sign the Insurrection Act, According to Juan and the White Hats, okay, and the Qs, Q drops, the reason he didn't is because he did not want civil war in America.
	He did not.
	That's why the White Hats have stood down.
	They have allowed, let me finish, they have allowed the Biden Show to do its worst.
	In secret, they have actually arrested pedos.
	They have arrested and probably even, you know, did military tribunals with some of them, secretly.
	But for the most part, it was not a front forward operation.
	It's been in secret.
	And there's one very good Gene Decode is a very excellent source on this.
	He was in the military on a high level, some officer on submarines and such.
	He documents this, actually weekly, what has been going on when they get into the underground bases and they rescue children.
	The White Hats operate in secret.
	This is important to know.
	They have not revealed the truth about what they're doing and who they are and their operation because they wanted they did not want to be stopped by the cabal so they have had to pretend that they're not who they say they are okay they've hidden in plain sight basically and trump included okay and let me say that what they were trying to prevent was the fact that our country was split when trump
	When the 2020 election came along, Trump won.
	And they, by the way, do you know they have all the blockchain evidence of that?
	The military, the Air Force, the Space Force has that documented evidence that Trump won by 80%.
	That's what they say, okay?
	80%?
	Yes.
	And the trouble is, at that point, they had to face— Clear math.
	Whether—I'm just telling you what—look, this is not me.
	This is what they say.
	They say that they had to stop the chances, because back in the day of Abraham Lincoln, they said the Civil War was kicked off when he signed the Insurrection Act.
	So Trump did not sign it this time around.
	And it's very interesting, by the way, how they're treating him like Abraham Lincoln.
	Now the states are taking him off the ballot.
	Do you know taking him off the ballot is tantamount to a state withdrawing from the union?
	We are a union of states.
	We spoke of December 18th.
	Let me just go because I'm the one witness in the universe Pandora Box meets In the Oval Office on December 18th, 2020, the moment of Flynn bringing Powell and Powell handing over an interest act was written in crayon by a third grader, which was meant to fail.
	Now, out of 330 of those million people out there, Flynn, first screen, this is Chris Ceccheto.
	General Flynn gave me your contact and asked for you to call.
	Boom!
	Next, from the Oval Office, General Flynn wants my settlement agreement, a key to the Pandora's Box, and a 15-page signed affidavit.
	Now, that's document.
	Now, what you'd have to understand is, I understand that Patrick Berge got blocked, and Bill Bennett got blocked.
	I didn't get blocked.
	They found me.
	They looked for me because the feds told them that Pandora box could save Trump.
	So if you're going to move on on Trump.
	You better get a hold of that parachute, and that's how they got me in Orlando, Florida.
	I worked with his team every day, and I have text emails and calls every day, with the idea, with the promise that my evidence was being used to save Trump, as he's using it now.
	And you heard President Trump say, Pandora's box, and they followed with threatening his life.
	Now, what happened was, I'm going through this period and saying, you're not giving it to Trump.
	You say, I know you're getting angry.
	I know you're getting frustrated.
	Yeah, you're right, because I'm starting to figure out what you're doing is setting this up.
	What I was working with was the people who did set up January 6th.
	Listen, I was there.
	I have all the evidence, all the communications, which is why Flynn don't say shit.
	So this is things.
	So think about this.
	He didn't save them.
	He let him go.
	That's exactly what happened.
	From that room is where they're going after Trump.
	Out of all the angles to go after Trump, Trump's blind side is that.
	That's why they're bringing Meadows in.
	That's why they're bringing in.
	But Flynn didn't get indicted.
	Well, Stone didn't get indicted, and Stone also set him up with WikiLeaks, from the Russian hoax, from front to back, Flynn and Stone, and they're both out there now.
	He's running for president, and he's my campaign manager if something happens to Trump.
	Those are the same animals that had something happen to Trump.
	They were that instrument.
	And that's why they wanted me to stop.
	They thought they didn't deny it.
	Again, any of that.
	And it is proof.
	Which is, I am a problem.
	Which is why Juan ran this operation when I refused their money and their office and their position.
	Then it was the black ball me.
	They still needed me at the end, but that was the closure and that started the conversation with one and knowing that Flynn was a fed.
	That was it.
	So, so, so the guy who took out Trump is the guy in position to replace Trump.
	You want to look for motive.
	There's Flynn and Stone.
	Do we forget what Stone was saying out after the election?
	What did he say?
	Trump was the worst mistake this country has ever made.
	He said that.
	He turned around and called his daughter an abortionist blank.
	Right?
	I mean, that's Stone.
	So in other words, and what did they turn around and got together?
	And this has all been a plan.
	And it's been a plan with Juan, too.
	And all of a sudden, these false personas, they're taking money and promoting it, thinking Trump was going to be there when they knew he is.
	And you know what, Terry, you were right about this.
	We're going to know very, very soon, because Flynn won't let Trump breathe much longer with this stuff.
	They're going to push him, and they're going to push him, and they're going to make a deal.
	And you know what?
	You're going to see that, and you know what else you're going to see?
	You're going to see Flynn and Kennedy.
	And when that happens, I want you to think of what just happened.
	And if you think he's the commander-in-chief... Not going to be what you think.
	Again, you know, they use a lot of moves like this to basically mislead their enemies, alright?
	And to allow them to operate and to learn.
	I don't think Trump would leave those borders open for doors.
	I don't think Trump in a million years would say, let's turn this evil on the American people and teach them a lesson.
	No, no, no, no.
	Do you believe Trump would do that?
	I predicted that your points of view would be a problem for them coming down, you know, in the future.
	Well, how about this?
	It has been a problem for them, hasn't it?
	Except that the only thing they can do is rescue themselves and rescue the operation.
	We can tell the American people.
	And we can tell them.
	And you know what?
	I have a plan as we're opening that Pandora's box.
	Listen to this, people.
	This is important.
	We create a loyalty agreement, a contract with our Congressmen, with our Senates, and we turn around and say, it's very simple.
	Here's an agreement.
	It's also an immunity deal.
	You write down every crime you've done, every crime that you know the other gentleman had done, or gentleman, and then you turn around, and if you lie, Well then we charge you with treason and hang you.
	Now everybody gets to sign or they get the hell out.
	So all of a sudden, as we're opening Pandora's box and starting to incriminate them financially, they're not going to know if they're in the box or out of the box.
	And then once we've done all this, We don't do anything.
	White hats, green hats, pink hats.
	You've got to take over the courts.
	You've got to remove these judges.
	You take the same loyalty agreement and you go, Your Honor, the Department of Justice, here you go.
	Sign it or leave and lie and we find out we'll hang you.
	Now see, it's not as hard as you think.
	We get their money, seize their assets, identify them.
	I believe they're doing that.
	I believe that's probably what they're going to be doing.
	The fact of the matter is that Mike, I understand where you're coming from, I understand you doubt these people, but I am trying to tell you how they've had to wear, it's like they've been hiding behind certain facades to stay alive, to continue to operate.
	And think about this.
	Where is our country?
	And to integrate the dark side.
	Someone says, we've got to save this.
	We're going to have to have some kind of cataclysmic event in this country.
	We're going to have to take out our power grid.
	I mean, when they expect these things to happen, is Trump going to take responsibility as the commander of chief by not closing the door that they start blowing up power grids and they turn around and start poisoning waters?
	You see what I'm saying?
	Listen, those aren't lessons to be taken.
	And I believe the President would have done that.
	And I believe that these people in control have opened our borders, have sold our children, have preyed on them.
	Yeah, but not Juan and Trump and so on.
	The trouble is, you know that they use an AI, are you aware, to strategize the future?
	And one of the things the AI came up with, okay, was to do this certain kind of an operation, and it had to do with allowing the dark side to do its worst.
	So that then turning tables on them before the last straw and basically outing them at that point.
	So they are already implicated.
	They are already deep in it.
	So that no one in America can turn to Trump and the rest of the White House.
	How many have to die?
	How many children?
	How many people have to die?
	How many people have to be trafficked?
	How many people have to die in our streets of heroin?
	The problem, the problem is who's making these rulings, who has this plan is the dark side.
	It's their people coming across.
	You know what happens when I'm at my house and there's people running around and all, you know what I do?
	I go over and I shut the door and I lock it.
	Right?
	It's that simple.
	Those borders are open because they're paid to be open.
	What's coming across is the evil that's going to attack this country.
	Have you not heard Trump say that once he gets in office it's going to be the biggest exodus you've ever seen?
	Yeah, right.
	Have you heard him say that?
	No, no, no.
	This doesn't wait for a couple years.
	This doesn't wait for a year.
	This doesn't wait for a day.
	You tell the American people, and we, Trump tells the American people, and we tell our government, Close those borders, we're the boss.
	And you know, by the way, boys and girls, I have a loyalty agreement right here.
	So when we're going to suspect you, listen, Nancy Pelosi, can you sign right here?
	Gene Shaheen, can you sign?
	McConnell, can you sign?
	Romney, you say you don't want to sign?
	Then get the hell out of here.
	All right?
	This can be done.
	Why that's not thought of with all the AI and all this shit?
	It's because it is.
	It's just something they don't want to do.
	This is all about the theft of the American people.
	They are taking your life savings.
	That's $33,000 trillion in debt.
	We have enough enemies out there.
	I know it's hard to believe that this is the White Hat operation, but it is how they operate.
	They keep their enemies close.
	They keep their friends close and their enemies closer.
	That's the principles.
	The enemies are in our living rooms!
	They're killing our children!
	Look, I'm 100% with you, okay?
	And I have basically begged, I have begged Juan and them to come forward to stop allowing this stuff to happen, but they insist that they need to show, not tell, the American people what they have asked for, what they have voted for, what they have allowed.
	How many millions?
	We are going to have a civil war.
	Mike, do you know we're going to have a civil war?
	This is what we're going to have.
	This is what we're going to have.
	We're going to have the American people wake up and go, who the hell are these bastards?
	Guess what?
	Let's kick them out.
	The Pandora box opens up the finances, show the trillions that they stole for.
	At the same time, we apply that oath of office.
	And you know something, simultaneously, we the people, 330 million, we don't dance for these bastards.
	They work for us.
	So you know what?
	We don't have to have a revolution.
	We have to have a firing.
	Remember Trump?
	You're fired.
	And you know what?
	If you're a treasonous bastard, we'll hang you.
	All right.
	And if you don't tell us everything, you know, I've been really quiet for a while.
	I just want to ask Mike a question.
	So if under those circumstances, you're right.
	And all it takes is Trump opening up the box and the American people.
	Basically taking it from there and going to all of our elected elected officials with all of these agreements.
	Why?
	What's holding?
	Because you ask a really good question.
	How many more people have to die?
	How many more children have to get raped?
	How many more?
	So why?
	I guess my question to you is that why do you think Trump isn't doing that?
	I mean, clearly Trump would know this if this if if opening up the box would would cause them and prompt the American people to take back their country.
	What's preventing him from doing that?
	Well, I would tell you this.
	Why hasn't he done it?
	Should be the question to him.
	I'm telling you, it's doable.
	And you know, after I get Congress and Senate, we go to these judges.
	We take back our courts.
	Everything ends in the courts.
	So you know something?
	If Trump didn't do it, it's the resistance.
	It's the people that encircled him.
	It's the people that are threatening him.
	Listen, I've dealt with these animals.
	They'll kill your children.
	As we're talking, the cartel's been sitting on my children for five years.
	My son went to have surgery.
	They were sitting over the visitors log.
	I turned around, my father died in April.
	They were at the funeral.
	That's who these people are, and that's how dangerous they are.
	So, I understand what Trump could be worrying about his own children, and maybe even beyond his life.
	It wasn't my life.
	You know what these people ask themselves?
	What do you love?
	And me?
	It wasn't money.
	It wasn't my business, and I didn't have fear.
	But I did love my children.
	But to save everybody's children, I put my children at risk.
	And their life has changed.
	They didn't just lose their inheritance.
	They lost their freedom.
	I have one son that doesn't leave the house.
	He doesn't leave his room.
	They only threatened to cut his head off.
	So you know what I would say about waiting?
	I want you to look at your child, your daughter and your son.
	And if they were going to snatch them up, would you want us to wait?
	Would you want us to put a number on this?
	I wouldn't.
	I'm 100% with you.
	I don't think any of us out on the outside of this operation would want them to wait.
	We've been begging them to come forward.
	Okay, we have.
	It's because they're corrupt.
	I don't know.
	I don't think that's why.
	I know you think that.
	I get it.
	Listen, the math tells you that.
	Millions have died.
	Do you want me to tell you something?
	We're going to have a situation this year, and it's not me saying it, it's everybody saying it.
	Does that go on the scale?
	What if they release a virus and millions die?
	Is that not on?
	Do we not have people that hate us and want us dead?
	Sure.
	All right, then it doesn't make sense, Carrie.
	It doesn't.
	I understand.
	What it means is there is no good balance here.
	We are in control of the evil.
	The American people have got to take this power path.
	We've got to stop.
	Ready?
	The American people.
	Stop looking for saviors.
	We save ourselves.
	And we can do this.
	But we have a loyal military within all the traitors.
	Where are they not loyal?
	They're selling and murdering children.
	They are loyal to Trump.
	There is a certain division of the base force that are loyal to Trump.
	So they're waiting for more millions to come in.
	They're waiting for more people to come in.
	They're waiting for all these shipping containers.
	I don't like it any more than you do.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	You know what?
	That's satanic, alright?
	It's not a judgment call.
	It's satanic and evil.
	And the reason why no one comes, there's white hats and black hats.
	Do you know the principle of the PSYOPs?
	It's for you to be confused with the left and the right.
	Now ask yourself, the American people out there, right?
	And all that are listening.
	You ready?
	Are you confused?
	That's what they want you to be.
	They want you to be confused.
	And sometimes it's not a hand signal.
	It's not a number.
	It's not a letter.
	Sometimes it's common sense.
	I grabbed these bastards by their money.
	That was the common denominator.
	I incriminated each and every office, the intelligent, The DEA, the IRS, TICA, all of them.
	That's what made up for Northbrook.
	I've got truckloads of evidence in the Department of Justice, in the Washington Bureau of the FBI, in the Treasury.
	I set them up so it was possible.
	You know how much help I had?
	Nobody.
	They were trying to murder me along the way.
	In fact, even the murder videos would go to the same packages with the FBI and Department of Justice.
	That is what they were afraid of.
	The first architect is Bill Shaheen.
	You know who you get?
	Hillary Bill Clinton.
	Bang!
	And then right after this, Biden.
	And they all know it.
	Hillary Biden's, Hunter Biden's baby mama and her lawyer, did you know one?
	Had them call me to give them the LLCs for the Bidens they settled the next day.
	They all know.
	Listen, I'm telling you, it's misdirection.
	Think about the division on even media.
	You have Fox and you get CNN.
	How more divided can you get?
	Well, guess what?
	Black and the White Hats is the same division.
	It's all about keeping the American people confused when the simple answer about the loyalty agreement should have been thought of.
	The common denominator for all these criminals is they do their laundry at the same laundromat.
	So, in other words, here you go.
	It's possible.
	We can do it.
	And listen, you know that they know that that is the issue of Pandora Box, and that's what scares the shit out of them.
	Now, the thing with the loyalty agreement, that's just good common sense.
	And you know what?
	No more lobbyists.
	You don't sell a book.
	And you know what?
	They call it a public service.
	You serve your two years, third year, you boot your ass, thank you for your service next.
	Maybe some young people who want to save their future because we sure the hell didn't do it.
	And we turn around and we have those loyalty agreements.
	You want to run for office?
	Here's the agreement. - Right.
	I think you're a great warrior.
	I think you're a great man.
	I think that you've gone through hell.
	And, you know, I don't think it's even a question.
	I think you're a very brave man.
	You know, my hat's off to you, I have to say.
	I think the White Hats are aware that you are a hero.
	And I think that someday, soon, I hope, you're going to be rewarded for it, Mike.
	Okay?
	And let me tell you one thing.
	I want to tell you something.
	I'm not seeking any reward.
	You heard me say Juan and Nino.
	I'd release all the funds, give it to the whole thing.
	It wouldn't take a penny.
	I'm not tired and worn.
	I am the tip of this spear and I take my responsibility.
	I want to tell you a message from a Marine who talked to me.
	He wanted you to know this, and you can take it or leave it, but this is what he told me.
	He said, if your children are being held by the dark side, that he will come in and rescue them.
	This is what a Marine called me.
	It's the largest cartel.
	Listen, I thank him.
	And I thank him.
	It's the largest cartel in America.
	You understand?
	Protected by the DEA and FBI.
	You don't take them.
	You know what you do?
	You don't call them.
	You don't communicate because you don't put them in danger.
	Right.
	That's what you do.
	I understand.
	Believe me.
	And remember, if Trump has to make this decision about his businesses, about his freedom, remember now, right?
	He did.
	I walked away from 400 Million dollars.
	I would have been a billionaire at this point.
	The largest racist able in the world.
	And I love my kids dearly.
	And you know what?
	That decision was put on the table.
	You know what decision I made?
	Go screw.
	And they tried and they came to kill me.
	But I didn't betray the American people.
	I didn't betray those children at any cost, even at the cost of my children, to save everybody's children.
	That's why in opening these doors and child trafficking and killing them, I know who they are.
	There is no waiting!
	There is no waiting!
	I wish, you know, look from your mouth to the ears of the White Hats, that's all I can say.
	Look, we have to differ on this last subject, that's all I have to say, is that, you know, my understanding of their operation, why they've waited, none of us, none of the MAGA people like me, want to wait another minute, okay?
	We never wanted them to wait.
	We wanted them to take back the country when Biden was sworn in.
	At that moment, okay, I wanted that, okay?
	But that's not how they chose to operate.
	They had a reason for their behavior, for why they operate the way they do.
	And part of it was actually to save their own lives during the operation.
	Well, we're three years into this or more, actually, And we're going to have to see how it plays out.
	I appreciate everything you have to say.
	I know your evidence is stellar.
	I think they're bad guys, and I'm coming for them.
	Because the worst thing is, you know an evil, and you identify them.
	But the ones that come as saviors and help, I take particular offense to.
	So I know you have your position, I have mine.
	And the message to Juan and Flynn is, I'm coming.
	I'm not stopping.
	I see who you are, and I'm going to expose this trafficking.
	And you did set up the president, and I'm not letting go.
	And you know something, Kerry?
	I believe that you believe this, and I appreciate it, because I don't think... I can see that it comes from a place in your heart.
	These bastards don't fool me.
	And you must know this about them.
	They talk to me.
	Do you know they never look me in the eye because they're afraid I'm raising their face?
	Do you know they plugged in Nest about an AG's computer if I had tapped it because I was moving ahead of them?
	They thought I tapped it.
	I can't even get this thing open!
	But they know me, and I know them.
	So I'm telling you.
	And I know your opinion, but I think no, Black.
	No White Hats.
	It's a team.
	It's a side.
	Mike, let me ask you a question if I could.
	Now, you had said that that Supreme Court, there's no way they're going to rule in favor of Trump on the immunity question, right?
	So that is, is that the next big event that you're looking to to sort of solidify where you're coming from?
	Or is there something else that that's going to come first?
	I just want to know what's going to happen is.
	That December 9th, January 9th, right?
	That's where he's going to lose the appeals court.
	He'll file appeal.
	He'll lose that.
	So he'll have no immunity.
	Now, Gary said something that is absolutely true.
	The Supreme Court wasn't getting expedited because of this.
	If they do rule in that favor, right?
	About dropping immunity, then it could be Biden, it could be Obama, it could be Clinton.
	So what they're doing is, listen, if we're going to take you out, Trump, we'll pull the card.
	And just remember, ready?
	Who's going to be the judges against Clinton and Biden and them?
	They are.
	So it's not as big, but they don't like precedence.
	So if it's in place, they don't have to drop it.
	Trump knows it'll get dropped.
	Trump will say at that point, he's then backed up criminally.
	I agree with you that everything we've seen with the courts is that they are corrupt.
	Look, I have no idea how this thing is going to be rescued, but I do know that logic tells you that they cannot indict or, you know, basically... Well, that's not logic.
	Logic says they will.
	Listen, the immunity to the Supreme Court is based on election fraud.
	This is not over yet, okay?
	Why do you think Ramaswamy says it's over?
	Why do you think Ramaswamy?
	And when Ramaswamy not only says it over, that it was the Republican Party that sabotaged Trump, but he also said they're bringing in a Trojan horse.
	Listen, I believe it's all, he happens to be true.
	He's bringing in a Trojan horse.
	Now, the essence of a Trojan horse is that somebody that kind of sneaks in by surprise.
	Now, you can't call Haley, you can't call him as far as a Trojan horse or DeSantis.
	They're all known quantities.
	Well, then we have Flynn.
	Flynn's the Trojan horse, and Ramaswami knows it.
	Flynn's running.
	So that's the Trojan horse, and it's Flynn.
	And then there's going to go Flynn to Kennedy.
	He knows it already.
	Rahm Eswani is running for president in the Republican Party.
	He says it's all over.
	They're not going to let Trump run.
	And you know something?
	He knew that months ago, which is why some of these guys ran as Republicans.
	You know why?
	Hey, they're losing by 40 points, 30 points.
	Why aren't they dropping out?
	Because they knew Flynn with Trump was going to go, and all of a sudden their positions were going to change.
	That's what happened.
	So, all of a sudden, Haley, the industrial complex, moves into the Republican, and they replace Biden with some other cabal stooge.
	And then you have Flynn and the military intelligence and the FBI and the DOJ holding us in a police state.
	And then, all of a sudden, they bring in 87,000 IRS agents.
	All of a sudden, you start losing your homes in BlackRock, and Vanguard starts buying them up.
	You're going to have a woken society that's controlled by militia and by police.
	How does the few corrupt control the many?
	That is where they're moving.
	They thin you down.
	They destroyed your society.
	They've taken away the, and this AI coming in, you have no idea how many jobs that's going to eat up.
	So they're steering us into this, and this evil few that'll feed off your children, that'll take money and protection from cartels, will be in control.
	We are in a single moment of time, which is why I came so hard at this moment, because seven years I moved this, 17, moved it, moved it, and I go, you know something?
	We are at ground zero.
	We lose or not lose our country in a matter of maybe weeks, months, but now.
	Yes.
	Well, I do think it's very close to that.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Well, I think we both, both of you guys have laid out quite a bit of information, and certainly, you know, I hope that you understand, Mike, and Carrie, both of you, that I did the best that I could to try to mediate the conversation, to try to give both of you guys an equal amount to be able to lay out your different perspectives.
	I agree, Mike.
	I think you're a hero, okay?
	That's the simple reality.
	Regardless of what you think of me, or regardless of what you think of anybody else, I do believe... Listen, I don't think you're a bad guy or wouldn't be here.
	I just hope you understand, I wasn't trying to silence you, I was only trying to give Kerry an equal opportunity to speak, so I just hope you get that.
	All right.
	So a couple of points that can't be missed because they're critical.
	So when you stop, you have to understand at that point was critical because, listen, you know, of all those years and, you know, 10, 12 years ago, I've had on signs and had the people right.
	Right.
	You knew I was ahead of everybody before they even knew there was an issue.
	Signs across highways.
	What makes you think I am ahead now?
	What makes you think I haven't moved ahead of them now?
	Was I ahead of them then?
	I'm ahead of them now.
	And I'm telling you, I'm protective, I'm defensive because I'm getting my life threatened.
	Carrie will tell you those things are real.
	Attempts.
	Attempts.
	I had two people in the hotel last week.
	No kidding.
	So, I have to be watchful because I know what I carry.
	And I know what happens if I no longer carry that.
	So, I have a sense of urgency to move because I know how they're going to move.
	Well, Kerry, let me ask you in closing, I mean, if what Mike is talking about does indeed come to pass, and they basically maneuver, because this is something that I think was brought up in our conversation with Janine the other day, and one of the things that I had said was that if Trump is somehow maneuvered out of the running, out of the race, that would, I think, give a lot of credibility to what Mike is talking about here, right?
	So I'm just kind of curious, you know, if things do... And I'm not guessing.
	I'm not guessing.
	Okay, fair enough.
	So my question to Kerry, though, is if you start to see things moving in the direction that he's describing, that Mike has described, would it cause you to maybe second-guess things?
	What would be your outlook in that case, if Trump is effectively maneuvered out of the race by the deep state?
	I'm curious what your thoughts are on that.
	And then we can kind of wrap it up, because we've been on for a long time now.
	Well, okay, but I can say this much.
	From what I understand, Trump is garnering crowds even larger than ever at his rallies, okay?
	That the American people are so much behind him is absolutely amazing.
	And I have to say that in my view, He's a winner.
	It's the way he operates in life.
	He's not going to back down when he's on top and I believe he feels that he is on top.
	I believe these attacks against him again are being allowed to happen by the White Hats.
	Because there is actually, you know, there's this sort of analysis that's been done by psychologists that everyone loves, you know, the person who's down and out, right?
	Everyone wants to help that person.
	So Trump has also taken advantage of these attacks on him.
	And so have the White Hats.
	They have benefited in various ways.
	So I believe this has got to stop.
	It's got to turn around.
	I believe Trump has, in a sense, Trump has been as much in hiding in plain sight as Juan Osavan.
	They've both been in disguise.
	They've both been in hiding.
	I don't think that Trump is going to step away when he's winning.
	That's my point of view.
	I believe the real Trump is probably most of the time in Cheyenne Mountain.
	I believe his double, and you know presidents have doubles, that's a well-known fact, and I believe most of the time his double is operational.
	You would have to do that because Mike, as you know, These people are vulnerable and humans can be killed, okay?
	And all it takes is a good sharpshooter and it's over, right?
	I was threatened with a sharpshooter yesterday.
	All right, they have to be incredibly careful.
	I believe that they have to give him immunity.
	Now, if I'm wrong, I'm not, you know, I don't... And I would tell you, I agree.
	Carrie, it's checkmate.
	Checkmate.
	Yes.
	With that court.
	All you have to know is, are the courts corrupt?
	Yes.
	Supreme Court's corrupt?
	Yes.
	True.
	Look at what they did in that insurrection.
	They are completely corrupt, and I agree with that 100%.
	We had people in jail.
	It's only because... Wait, wait, wait.
	Just wait.
	You know, think of this.
	The White Hats are using an AI to strategize the future.
	Well, so are the dark side.
	They both use AI... And they're both true of the American people.
	I know.
	And the AI is going to teach them how to manage the rest of us.
	Listen, we're going down.
	You know what happens with this unemployment?
	Unemployment goes up, this economy goes up.
	What you think is inflation?
	Listen, I'd risk price for Fannie Mae across the country.
	What that's going to be is risk rated.
	Inflation is not going to go down with lowering rates.
	You have a very dark view of the future.
	I simply don't have that dark view.
	that you owe that 33 trillion to the world that looked like you won't pay it.
	It is a natural disaster and it's coming and they did it intentionally.
	And that's why I'm saying there's going to be the wealthy and the rich and there's going to be the rest of us, which is no more middle class and broke.
	You have a very dark view of the future.
	I simply don't have that dark view.
	I believe that the White Haps are going to win.
	I do.
	I set the rate structure moving forward.
	And Fannie Mae.
	So in other words, the most movable, changeable thing with so many variables.
	They use me to turn around and tell them how the market's changing.
	The number one guy in the country.
	You know what that was?
	Insight.
	You know why I used the same talent that made me a very wealthy man?
	Handicapper.
	The best handicapper in the world become the best, largest horse owner.
	I brought that to the table, dropped everything else, and applied this insight to get ahead of these monsters.
	And it wasn't easy, because you had to get into their heads.
	And in their heads, good people don't have it in their heart to think this kind of evil.
	You don't have a thing that's saying that they would take organs off of children.
	1,300 people, children, were beaten and abused at the Sununu Youth Detention Center, raped, they were putting in rooms naked, and they would beat each other unconscious.
	Those evil exist.
	They exist.
	And that is Governor Chris Sununu, as in the Sununu Youth Detention Center.
	So I'm saying to the American people, it is in our hands.
	We save ourselves.
	You know, think about this theory.
	Aren't we always waiting?
	We're waiting for The indictments to open.
	We were waiting on Hillary Clinton's emails.
	We were waiting on Durham and Barr with the Russian investigation.
	Have you noticed we're always waiting and one going 5D chess, meaning I can't explain it to you?
	Maybe one wants to play chess with me one day.
	All right?
	We'll see how that works out for him, whoever the hell he is.
	All right.
	Okay, well, I appreciate that.
	I think that we have to wait and see what's going to happen.
	I think that we are acting as much as we can to understand the circumstances we're in and to understand... What's going to happen is already dictated unless we change it.
	Unless the American people stand up, we're screwed, because all three sets of candidates are corrupt.
	I think we are going to stand up, but not quite in the way that you're talking about.
	I believe we are going to stand up by being more offensive.
	By having them buy their money, and exposing their criminality, at the same time with a loyalty agreement.
	Let me say, if I'm an American, right, and say, if I'm going to have this senator, is there a problem with signing a loyalty agreement?
	Right?
	How about this?
	We back them right in.
	And we think we go, hey, I'm on white hat, I got black hat.
	Well, today we have a sale on hats.
	We're giving to the loyalty agreement to the whites and the black hats too.
	And then let's see who's got the right hat on.
	And what's the bet?
	They're all out the door.
	Which is, and then you know what we do?
	Then we put new people in, we investigate them and hang them later.
	But it can work.
	And listen, I built a couple of businesses with the same principles.
	I appreciate that.
	Alright, let's see what happens.
	Let's go for this.
	And we're all, look, we're all involved, okay, at this point.
	Everyone's awake.
	Everyone's listening.
	I think we probably have a decent audience out here.
	So when Trump doesn't run, me and you will go right back on the same show.
	We're going to have a conversation about why Trump's not in the race.
	And, just a kicker, Flynn's running with Kennedy.
	If that comes to pass, I definitely want to have a follow-up if that comes to pass.
	You got it.
	You got it.
	And then I'm going to have a subplot.
	You know what that subplot is?
	I'm not trying to be right here.
	I'm trying to tell you the way I see it.
	And I'm not sure that the way I see it is the way, you know, everyone else is going to be seeing it either.
	But I do understand the MAGA point of view.
	I do understand the people loyal to Trump, including myself, and this is what we have I know, but here's the thing, Carrie.
	You speak to a lot of people, and you influence a lot of people.
	And if we're wrong, if they're dirty, we're going to find that out.
	Okay.
	I know.
	But here's the thing, Carrie.
	You speak to a lot of people and you influence a lot of people.
	And if you're wrong, those people play in blood.
	All right.
	So, in other words, this is a very dangerous game right now.
	My game is, let's take them out.
	Let's do it right now.
	We're not going to have elections right now.
	We're going to turn around and have the open information, go through all their financials, at the same time having them sign that loyalty agreement.
	We're not going to have—in fact, if you're running for president, each one of you are going to sign it, too, including Biden.
	What's Biden going to say?
	I'm not going to sign a loyalty agreement?
	The American people would back it.
	You know, in the end of the day, if you don't have a military behind you, you're not going to be able to get that far.
	Yes, we are.
	I've got an army of 330 million people.
	And guess what?
	We may have our differences.
	And you know what?
	A lot of them are artificially done about putting the races, religious and all.
	And Flynn, one religion, one country, that won't start a war.
	But the thing here is, you ready?
	The commonality amongst us all is we love our children.
	Muslims, Christians, whatever, we love our children and you know what we have a commonality is?
	We want them to have a future.
	Yes.
	We would like our country to be safe.
	We have our differences.
	So let's agree on this.
	Let's save our children.
	Let's protect our borders.
	Let's get this corruption.
	Because you know what we might find?
	We might find that we pay all our debts, especially if we get all this money that I'm talking about, pay our debts.
	You may even have, if you take out the stealing, you may even have health care.
	You mean child... We'd be surprised with... Listen, they're stealing all the money.
	The Green Deal was horseshit.
	It's just a way to steal and steal.
	The thing what they're doing... Listen, so in other words, we take out the stealing, we don't even know the income flow.
	But it just might save the country in a bad time that's coming.
	By seizing their assets and paying down our debts, by turning around and reverting this, we just might save our country.
	And I'm telling you, They're creating and moving us to a position of failure.
	All right.
	I appreciate your time, you know, both of you, and thank you for inviting me to join you.
	And let's move forward from here, you know, and see where we go.
	Absolutely.
	Well, let me just kind of put an end cap on it and just say once again, I want to thank both of you.
	It's an honor to have both of you on my platform.
	And certainly, Mike, I hope you'll come back.
	I'm willing to have you come back.
	I'm telling you right now, I'll be back.
	Okay, and I'm really excited about this conversation.
	Obviously, it was a fiery conversation at certain points, but I think it had to be.
	I'm in full agreement, Mike.
	We are at a place right now where we're at a crossroads.
	And how this actually goes down, I think, is really going to define history in moving into the future for our children.
	And quite frankly, I've said, just to kind of echo the point that you've made, I've said many times that crimes against children, and this is something, you know, in the Q drops, which you don't really subscribe to, but that's fine, but, you know, crimes against children and humanity.
	I went my path.
	Yeah, not really the point, but crimes against children, crimes against humanity are what are going to ultimately We're here.
	The finance and the thing.
	I think we're in complete full agreement how we actually get there.
	I mean, I think it was really interesting to have both perspectives.
	We're here.
	Yeah, but we're at the right political point.
	The finance and the thing, we're here.
	Yeah, we are very close to absolute endgame, basically.
	So they're going to have to show their true colors.
	Trump is either going to stick with the game or leave.
	According to you, he's leaving.
	I understand that.
	I think we need to wait and see on those scores, okay?
	And meanwhile, we're going to continue to try to educate ourselves and each other.
	And I will say that I'm more than happy to have you on my show as well anytime, Mike, and be happy to listen to you.
	You want to text me, you got information.
	I will try, again, to connect you with Juan and with anybody else that you want to reach.
	I don't need connection with Juan.
	I'm going to see Juan in handcuffs.
	I don't need connection with Juan.
	All right, all right, all right.
	All right, well, let's, why don't we wrap this up and, you know, I'll give both of you, I mean, so, Kerry, I think that sounded like some final thoughts from you.
	So, Mike, I'll give you the opportunity to leave us with some final thoughts for today until the next time, and we'll be in touch for sure.
	Go ahead.
	I would tell you this.
	Once this comes out with Trump, there's going to be a vacuum.
	There's going to be all the lost people who love Trump.
	We, and I'm asking each of you, take that responsibility.
	We have to organize that group.
	We have to contain that group.
	When Trump turned around and told us about Pandora's box to say threaten with it, but he also told the American people it exists.
	So between my financing information and that, If we can get an organized people—and they're helping with a number of different podcasts—get our numbers.
	And you know what we do?
	We're on top of Congress.
	Boom, boom.
	The Ways and Means Committee has a parent department.
	Get me in front of Congress.
	Have the American people go, wait a minute, we do want this.
	Let's open up the papers.
	The president told us this existed.
	But we're going to have to force their hands.
	They're going to try to suck up that volume immediately.
	That's what Ramaswamy's moving.
	That's why Flynn's coming in.
	They're positioning to take Trump's.
	They're trying to divide him up.
	But we've got to take those disenchanted.
	And hopefully, if we get them, the other people who are Democrats are going to go, listen, we love our kids too.
	I mean, who's for child trafficking and offense?
	So with that, the outrage of the American people is the only catalyst.
	So that vision of truth and that moment in time, if you miss it, you've got three choices.
	You want election fraud?
	All of them are bad.
	And if it's Flynn, and I think it will be, you'll be controlled front to center, unabashed by the intelligence agencies of this country.
	You will be a prisoner within your own country, monitored every time you speak out of turn.
	You're done.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, you said January 9th is definitely a big day to be looking at, so we're going to be looking at January 9th, following this very closely.
	I think it's going to be real interesting to see how all of this plays out, but I'm going to be in touch with both of you.
	Once again, thank you to everybody out there.
	We had quite an audience, just so everybody knows.
	We had many, many thousands.
	I lost track.
	I looked at one point, but we've had a lot of people tune into this.
	So, I mean, I think this has really been great.
	It's been a great platform for both Mike and for Carrie really to explore this issue from both angles.
	And once again, I appreciate everybody out there.
	I'll be back soon with another report.
	But until then, God bless and Godspeed.
	Patriot out.
	See you later.
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