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Dec. 7, 2023 - Project Camelot

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KERRY INTERVIEWED BY LAURA NINA: UFOS, ALIENS, NWO AND WHITE HAT AGENDA

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	So this is all about preparedness.
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	Network seems to be a bit slow, but we are now live.
	And so let's have a quick look.
	Today is Tuesday, the 5th of December, 2023.
	And I'm here with Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot.
	So, and you're in California, we've got time difference, you're 11 o'clock, and well, just 10 past 11.
	And I'm 10 past seven in the evening.
	So I've already had my Hot chocolate with a drop of Baileys to help me sleep.
	So, just going to wait a few minutes while people are coming on and then I'm going to just read a sort of bio about your book, Rebel Gene.
	Have you got a few books, haven't you?
	No actually one I'm working on another one but I only have the one uh-huh and it's behind me I'm trying to put it hold on one second yeah I can adjust it again one more time but yeah so I just got this banner behind me which is supposed to show people where it is.
	They'll share the live while you're doing that I'll reshare it on Yeah, however, you know, it's all good.
	I'm just, yeah, I'm kind of temperamental about lighting and positioning.
	Hi everybody!
	Thank you for joining us.
	Sorry we're a bit late.
	There's a time difference, etc.
	So I'm just going to share the link right now.
	So thank you for being here.
	Bear with us.
	Some of you may already know Kerry Cassidy and her work.
	Good evening, good evening, good evening.
	And if you're in California, where Kerry is, it's good morning.
	And as I've said, some of you may already be familiar with Kerry's work.
	I'm not, so this is a real good learning journey for me.
	And I'm looking forward to the discussion.
	So Kerry's just arranging the banners.
	Sorry, sorry about that.
	No, you're absolutely fine.
	So I'm just going to, for people that don't know, like myself, Kerry's got a book online called Rebel Gene, Secret Space and the Future of Humanity.
	You released that on the 19th of February 2020.
	Wow, that's a real prominent date for me.
	And this book is the story of Kerry's journey down the rabbit hole to discover the truth behind the secret space program, ETs, UFOs, and conspiracies of all kinds.
	To research this book, she interviewed about 1,000 individuals worldwide from high-level military, both retired and current, intelligent agents from the United States and other countries, law enforcement, Physicists, scientists of many kinds, full-time employees of FNSA, NASA, CIA, NRO and aerospace corporations, abductees, contactees,
	Self-proclaimed super soldiers enhanced physically and or mentally and physically and the list goes on and some have gone on the record and been filmed in person and via YouTube and others have stayed in the deep black and are known as secret sources.
	This book, if anyone is interested, again the name is Rebel Gene.
	This book is a distillation of the information provided in those interviews combined with her own experience and investigation as an investigative journalist and interviewer.
	So it's an exploration into the nature of consciousness and the future of humanity that sounds like an absolute lifetime of work and information.
	So, please, Kerry, I'm just going to hand over to you.
	Please tell us more about your journey and just, wow, I'm already going, wow, just by the book.
	Oh, all right.
	Well, thank you.
	Yeah it's nice to meet you and so basically I started out actually it's about 19 years ago and so I had a partner Bill Ryan he was English and so I kind of recruited him as it happened because I started doing a UFO documentary And I met Bill Ryan.
	I interviewed him.
	He was representing something called Serpo.org, which is all about a secret human-alien exchange program that's based on close encounters of the third kind.
	And so that's how we started out.
	And I actually taught him how to use the camera.
	And then we actually hit the ground running.
	We became very well known very quickly, and I guess the reason was because we were actually traveling around the world with a consumer-grade camcorder, and my style was to do what I called guerrilla filmmaking, which was kind of based on the model of MTV at the time, which was not to put a lot of formality into it, not to worry about technical details.
	Some people hate that kind of thing where you don't have where it's not perfect, but it was more important to get the testimony at the time.
	And so that's what we did.
	And we stayed partners for about I think was less than two years.
	Really, in the last year we had sort of back and forth not agreeing on who to interview and various other topics and then turned out that his latest girlfriend at the time wanted him to be the star and meaning the person interviewing and that didn't really fly too well with me.
	And so we didn't agree on that.
	And then he decided that if whistleblowers lied to us, that he had the right to out them.
	And that was actually completely against our platform.
	Which we promised the way we got whistleblower testimony was to promise them that we would never reveal their identity or whereabouts or any of that stuff.
	So that became really insane and we split at that point.
	So for about 19 years now I've been doing this and as I say and I have yeah thousands of interviews.
	What I do lately is connect all of the data that I've gotten over those years and have sort of a through line.
	So I'm a little unusual in that sense.
	So I'm an investigative journalist.
	I started out as a journalist in college.
	And I was always into, let's say, alternative politics, radical politics, whatever you want to say about that.
	I studied all the isms, socialism, communism, feminism, you name it, I studied it.
	And I also worked in Hollywood after college for actually around 20 years before I started Project Camelot.
	So I had a very interesting background.
	I wanted to, I started out in the very early days, I wanted to make sci-fi movies to reveal the truth as I knew it.
	I knew that people were not being informed about the real truth about our world.
	So that was my objective.
	I was, I'm born in Northern California, which makes you somewhat more independent minded.
	I never became part of the Southern California Old Boys Network, which sort of slowed me down in progressing along that career path, I guess you'd say.
	So when I picked up a consumer grade camcorder and decided to make my own UFO documentary, that really was the beginning.
	And I haven't stopped since then.
	So how, what made you get into UFOs?
	How did you, you know, because like me, I've never encountered anything like that, so if someone said to me UFOs exist, I would find it hard to believe because I've never encountered it, I've never witnessed it.
	Oh really?
	So what are UFOs?
	Well, no, I've seen lots of UFOs.
	They're very easy to see in your skies.
	Now, if you don't know what you're looking at, maybe you would think it was a star, but when they move, stars don't move and fly around and all this kind of thing.
	So one, I guess, incident when I was rather young, I was in Lake Tahoe camping with my family.
	We were laying in sleeping bags because it was summer.
	And staring up at the sky sky was full of stars and all of a sudden, all of the, a lot of the stars started to moving around and everyone saw it.
	And so we started joking about that being a meeting of UFOs going on and.
	I guess that was one of the incidents I remember.
	Also, when I was young, around the age of 12, I started to have clear memories of being abducted.
	And I had what's called a traditional abduction dream in which I would go to sleep at night And I was terrified I would be going down a path with a picket white picket fence at the end.
	And there was a man with a top hat and overcoat on the other side of the fence.
	I was terrified of that person.
	And the closer I would get, the more scared I would get.
	And then, you know, all of a sudden it would stop.
	And that's all I remembered.
	Right.
	So I had that recurring nightmare for I don't know how long it was, maybe a year or something or so.
	And then one time I decided to actually open the gate and go through it consciously in the dream and then it stopped.
	So I know now, I didn't know then, but I know now that that's what you call it.
	There was a loud buzzing sound.
	It's a typical abduction dream.
	And when I was really young, I was actually afraid of Santa Claus.
	I know that sounds stupid.
	I didn't even think there was a Santa Claus, but anybody who would say that somebody is going to land on our roof, that did not sound good to me.
	And obviously it's because of the UFO thing, but of course I didn't make that association.
	I just knew that, you know, that I was scared of that idea.
	So those kinds of things.
	Danielle, how can you stay asleep?
	How does it work that you're actually, if you're being abducted, does that mean you are taken out of your room into some other place or how does it work?
	Oh well, there are different ways it works actually.
	They can take your physical body or they can, you know, you can go into like the astral or other levels and take your light, what's called your light body, If they're going to do it that way.
	But generally speaking, they do actually abduct you physically.
	So there's a sense of an out-of-body experience, if you're at all familiar with that.
	But it can be pretty horrific.
	I mean, it's been described by a million people.
	I don't have a lot of recall of the actual abduction stuff.
	After, you know, the initial walking down the path part.
	But there have been some clips that have come back to me in my mind.
	Um, that I, I know that, you know, I was an, what you call an abductee.
	And I also, I knew that I didn't like greys.
	So, you know, all those people, they like to put a picture of the grey, you know, E.T., that kind of traditional.
	And I can't stand those little creatures.
	Uh, so, you know, I'm sure it probably came from the abduction scenario.
	I have a completely different attitude towards that.
	What would be the difference between UFO, alien and ET?
	Are they all the same or are aliens and ET different?
	No, those are just two words for the same thing.
	You know, you could call them off-worlders, which I often do, but they're, you know, so yes, alien, it's, it's, these are all just words in the kind of common lexicon, if you will, and it doesn't really matter what you call them.
	Some people like to say, you know, an extraterrestrial, or it can be an intra-terrestrial, or There are a lot of these names in the alternative culture.
	But for all intents and purposes, alien also works.
	Alien has something of a negative connotation.
	Even here on Earth, when we say you're an illegal alien.
	I mean, if you think about that, that's kind of derogatory in a certain sense.
	Uh, be that as it may.
	So, it doesn't really matter what you call them, in my point of view.
	And where do you think they are from?
	Are they from... They're from all over.
	Yes, now the ones that abduct are actually considered to be rogue groups.
	They're also associated with the Reptilians and Draco.
	So the Reptilians and Dracos are invading our Planet.
	I mean, do you really not know this stuff?
	Because it seems so obvious.
	I'm sorry, I don't... I want to make sure that I don't just sit here and say things that are so obvious, you know what I'm saying?
	So I can... It's something new to me.
	I mean, I've kind of heard, you know, different pieces, but I haven't studied it much.
	So it's something that I'm not... I've not delved into.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	Yeah, quite new to it.
	Well, you must be pretty sheltered because you're in England and England has, you know, a tradition of understanding and knowledge about what we call the occult and it's very much part of your culture.
	It's also everywhere.
	You know, let me simply say gargoyles on churches Isn't a depiction of that.
	Certain ancient sites, I don't know if you traveled much in your life, but ancient sites contain all kinds of evidence of reptilian overlay.
	The Vatican, for example, if you've ever seen the way the Vatican is laid out, it looks like a snake.
	And they are run by the reptilians.
	The religions are very much a reptilian They were devised and influenced by the reptilians.
	So a lot of people don't realize that, but it goes back in history, eons.
	And the Anunnaki, in particular, we call them the Anunnaki.
	Zacharias Sitchin popularized that term.
	It means those from off earth came or whatever they say uh uh heaven came down to earth but that's just a an et race a specific et race and uh it's a huge subject i mean you know to even go down this road right now is is is a lot to uh try to talk about but
	If you're not familiar, you know, I don't mind answering those kinds of questions.
	I mean, everyone has to learn, you know, at some point, and if you don't know what's going on yourself, It's kind of fun to talk to somebody like that.
	I'm not sure why you tried to interview me because my area of expertise, if you will, and my book is all about this sort of thing.
	The thing is that as an investigative journalist, I knew that there were other worlds also because I was a psychic intuitive child.
	And I just knew.
	So I, um, when I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind when I was quite young, I actually thought that it was like a revelation for me because I thought, oh, now that this movie is out, everyone's going to know about this, you know, and I was really excited and I walked out of the theater and I realized that nothing had changed in the world and other people didn't, you know, they thought, oh, it's just a movie.
	But for me it was a depiction of, you know, to some degree anyway, and so was E.T., the movie E.T.
	They do put a lot of truth in fiction, don't they?
	In the movies there's more truth in the fiction.
	Yeah, and that's the way the Illuminati, I assume you know who the Illuminati are living in England?
	So yeah, I've studied the occult, I've studied alternative philosophies, in particular Eastern philosophy, as well as occult information for my whole life.
	I studied the Crowley books, however I didn't want to be a witch or do magic tricks.
	so to speak or whatever you want to call those.
	I didn't but I wanted to understand what I considered to be the enemy and I think it all had to do with the fact that I was abducted.
	I got certain knowledge by being abducted and I think that spurred my whole trajectory on my mission if you will.
	So I've got a friend who is actually showing me pictures of her legs And her and her partner lost five hours in time and I know that she's, you know, telling the truth and she sent me photos and her leg, she just woke up, it just happened, she had no idea and it had like these prints.
	It's like someone had stamped a whole load of like lines across and it kind of looked like when you have a skin graft.
	But it had loads of lines going across, like something had been printed on there.
	It didn't last long, but she had five hours just gone.
	Sure, missing time, that's very common.
	Yeah.
	Well I mean you know I've interviewed so many people on these subjects so you know if you're interested you should definitely watch my interviews and these are with whistleblowers from above top secret so that that would be of interest to you because we're talking about ex-military agents former agents current and former agents of intelligence agencies.
	So these are engineers, people in law enforcement.
	I mean, I've interviewed people on every every walk of life to do with this subject matter and the secrecy as well.
	I'm very well versed in what's called the Secret Space Program that Britain and, you know, the United States are allies in.
	And you might know Men With Hill, right?
	And and that is that sort of installation that's run by the Americans, they say, or I think it's a, you know, partnership of a kind.
	And and that and that goes for the NSA.
	That's also, you know, behind the scenes, GCHQ, they work together as well.
	And so various things of this this nature.
	So those are the kind of people that I talk to.
	I talk to people who have been, for example, in the secret world, like secret agents, for the last 40 years of their life.
	Or they've been working as scientists.
	So a lot of scientists I interview.
	And then what happens with them, why they become whistleblowers, is that at a certain point they grow older, They begin to realize or come to the realization that humanity has every right to know what's happening to us.
	And that the secrecy is really counterproductive at this point.
	There was a point back in the day, you could even go back to, you know, Nazi Germany and understand that they were actually given special technology, flying saucer technology by an off-world culture.
	called from Aldebaran, that area of space.
	And this is where you get the, the real and the, the, the, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm blanking on the name of the women, but you know, these women that were famous, lovely women that were psychic and, and, and disclosed information to the Nazis about these technologies,
	The Nazis were given what Foo Fighters, for example, that's what they built and flew and other technologies as well.
	And eventually at the end of the war, a lot of the Nazis, you may know Project Paperclip came over in Project Paperclip.
	So they came to the United States and joined NASA.
	And then also they went to Russia and got involved with their secret space program and various other places on the planet.
	Israel, for example, and Argentina is famous for infiltration where a lot of Nazis have gone.
	But they also have a base in Antarctica, which is where they, in theory, hid Hitler for a time.
	He didn't die in the war.
	That was faked and so on.
	So it's all a big picture that involves secret testimony.
	And this is coming out.
	I mean, you might have heard about the recent UAP hearings that took place in the United States in Congress.
	and that they talked about there's a guy named Grush is his last name who was contacted by numerous whistleblowers similar to what I do and they gave him testimony and they were all credible members of high military rank and they basically were disclosing a lot of the same stuff that I've been disclosing all these years through my whistleblowers.
	However, um, in this case, this was actually, um, he's an intelligence agent and he's, you know, and this was in the U S Congress.
	So if you haven't seen that you should definitely go watch it.
	Yeah.
	Um, so, because I do remember hearing that, um, I think it was, um, Admiral Byrd found extra lands with extra people and then, um, underground, uh, civilization.
	Yes.
	And obviously we know that there are things, well we know, I mean, you know, people have put it out there bits and pieces, but we have underground worlds.
	Yes, there are inner-earth civilizations, numerous ones.
	There's a series of books written by a journalist in Romania called Radu Sinimar and they were translated by an publisher, if you want to call him that, slash author called Peter Moon.
	And those books are available on Amazon.
	There, I think there are at least five, there may be six or seven now.
	I've read all of them.
	And I've interviewed a long time ago, Peter Moon.
	Radu Sinamar, I'd love to interview, but he hasn't been available.
	I don't know that he speaks English, because Peter Moon is doing the translation for the English market, but the bottom line is there's a Romanian Sphinx.
	And I don't know if you have heard of this or know anything about it, but anyway, they call it the Romanian Sphinx.
	And it's up on top of a mountain.
	It's a carved lion-type being.
	And underneath, in the mountain, inside the mountain, is a military installation now that is run by, co-run by, the Romanians and the U.S.
	And it's a fascinating story, if you haven't heard it.
	I can picture the lion.
	I know what you mean.
	It's a big lion.
	Yeah, it's not as clearly delineated as the famous Sphinx, but it's still recognizable as a lion.
	But at any rate, there are tunnels leading from that installation to places like Iraq and underground in Egypt.
	All through the, you know, our earth is honeycombed with tunnels, basically, that have been built by extraterrestrials, some of the races that came here, who decided to stay off the surface to disappear into inner earth.
	and others that have built the tunnels to be here temporarily and so on and so forth and we since are in our secret space program have then expanded on some of the tunnels and built actual cities so we have all through the United States or tunnels underground and and through the countries in the world even under the oceans so
	This is part of the picture of understanding how ETs and various other races of beings can be here and we not see them on the surface.
	So that's also part of the story.
	So are they bad or good or both bad and good?
	As above, so below.
	So basically a mixture.
	Yeah, a huge mixture of good, bad, and also it's kind of important from the point of view of an earth person that we tend to see something as good or bad if it goes counter to our Desires, intentions, and wishes and dreams, right?
	But that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.
	It's kind of like a lion attacks its prey, you know, kills a prey, and it's made to be kind of king of the jungle, and that's how it survives.
	So in the same sense, some of these ETs do consider us as food.
	sex toys and uh also in some cases want to rule over us and this is where the reptilians and the draco and the greys and this is not all gray races but many of them are even Biological programmable entities is what they call them, which is basically a robot with AI running it.
	I mean, it's an incredibly complex story if you're just starting at ground zero.
	But listen, I mean, can I ask you, why were you motivated to interview me if you know nothing about this subject?
	I've always been interested, it's not a subject, UFOs and ETs and aliens, it's not a subject that I've really delved into, I've delved into many other things, but this I haven't, but I was actually meant to come and see you when you were here in the UK, you'd done a weekend, in what, 35 I remember, and I was meant to come and see you, and I've got a friend who absolutely You know, loves your work.
	And he said, please get Kerry on.
	And so it was also at my own interest.
	Okay.
	Who's best to talk to someone that really knows their stuff like yourself so that I can sort of delve into this a little bit and including people that are my followers.
	I'm getting a lot of comments here, people that have followed you since the beginning and they love it.
	So that's why I thought, well, I'd love to talk to you so to get a bit more information.
	For example, have you studied the occult?
	Because it looks like you have.
	I've done a little bit, but not much.
	But I do know about, you know, through the Awakening, about Anunnaki and, you know, extra lands.
	But there's a lot of different opinions, you see, and so sometimes it's hard to know what's true and what's not.
	But I do believe that there are extra races, but I'm not sure what aliens are.
	There's different beliefs.
	Some people believe aliens are demons, demonic entities.
	I don't know, but other people believe they are from, you know, like you see the aliens with the big eyes and that sort of thing, and that they come from other planets.
	Again, this is something that I've never really looked into, but it does interest me.
	Equally, it's frightening, because you don't know, you know, if they're good or bad, and I do believe there are underworlds, but it's equally quite frightening.
	And because I've now realised that films are more truth than documentaries, when I watch films about all these underworlds and, you know, creatures living under there, I also think, what's the truth behind that?
	It could really possibly be that there are just creatures living underneath.
	And so it was my interest.
	From my friend's recommendation to talk to you about it.
	Oh, all right.
	So that's interesting.
	I mean, it's it's a I'm glad that you followed that out.
	You seem like you have a fair, fairly open mind because one certainly needs an open mind to even discuss these kinds of things.
	So that's that's a start.
	I'm definitely outside the box thinker.
	Okay.
	So do you think we are being run by, you know, the whole world at the moment is in a mess, we're being run by criminals really, so do you think they are, not of this world, whatever it is, they're not human as such?
	Well, I think that the Illuminati are more or less run by extraterrestrial races that do not have our best interests at heart, I think is the best way to put it.
	Yeah.
	And that they have been influenced through the making of deals, you know, treaties.
	Actually, we have treaties that we've tried to establish through the Secret Space Program and actually Believe it or not, through what's called the UN, you know, United Nations, a division of the United Nations is actually having meetings with groups of extraterrestrials.
	So there are so many different races.
	In fact, we're being evaded.
	The early prediction or estimation was from one of my whistleblowers called Clifford Stone.
	Who had been working on crash retrievals and he was the alien human communicator.
	He had some psychic abilities and that sort of thing.
	So he would be along on a recovery when they would come across a crash of a UFO.
	And then if there were any bodies or still, you know, occupants that were alive, then he would be the interpreter, so to speak.
	And his name was Clifford Stone.
	I have several interviews with him.
	And his estimation at the time was around 54, 57 races.
	Since then, we've kind of expanded our understanding to include probably hundreds of thousands and maybe even new ones that crop up every, you know, other day, so to speak.
	In other words, We are part of what you might call a galactic community and the more we are sort of on the map and have been visited by some races then other races hear about us and so on so forth and they have space travel and they can go interdimensional in many cases and have high technologies.
	So things that we have been developing actually through treaties with some of these beings.
	We have gained a lot more knowledge and technology from them and then what happens is there's a there's a book I think it's called The Day After Roswell I think is the name of it but it's Philip Corso is one of the authors and it depicts the transition from he was a I think a colonel in the military if I recall
	But he basically disclosed, through the permission of the military, how technology had gone from crash retrievals into our technological development and into the military-industrial complex.
	as well as as tech companies that you you know like Microsoft and Apple and they would be given sort of a watered down version of the technology that the military had and they would then incorporate it and that's probably where computers and you know a lot of our technology came from so um The naivete or the fact that there is a secrecy about all of this thing.
	See, as an investigative journalist, I don't just investigate the UFO story.
	I investigate everything.
	And so political as well as health conspiracies, basically conspiracies of all kinds, interest me.
	And I'm very interested in exposing the truth.
	And so I dig through a lot of data and do the interviews I do.
	To expose the truth on these subjects.
	And so, like I said, it's very important, I think, that as humans we begin to realize who we are, what our origins really are about, instead of the lies that have been told, both in religion, through education that dumbs you down, you know.
	Yeah.
	We don't need no education as Pink Floyd would say.
	And you know, the bottom line is that people have been dumbed down to have a much watered down understanding of what it means to be human.
	And I don't think that's helping us in any way to move into the future.
	In your research, when you say to understand who we are, who are we?
	What is our potential?
	Well, we are, in a certain sense, if you want to just get really technical, you could say we are meta-terrestrials.
	We are hybrids.
	So, there are two books that I highly recommend everyone read.
	I consider them to be far better than the Bible in telling us who we really are.
	It depicts, in essence, what is could be considered the war of worlds that has been going on in space above our heads and interdimensionally, et cetera, for all of creation in a certain sense.
	And these various races have been at war with each other.
	So the good and the bad and the ugly, so to speak, at war.
	And then as as humans kind of entered the scene and came to Earth from Lyra, the system of Lyra, where most humanoid races come from, apparently.
	We came to the planet and developed here.
	Now, these particular books are by a woman called Ashiana Dean, who has downloaded information and put it into the books.
	So she doesn't claim to be the author, she claims to be the person who was given the data.
	As part of what are these plates that were found, they're kind of like an extraterrestrial DVD, if you will, called the CDT plates.
	And they were discovered in Hawaii, if I believe.
	I'm not sure which island, but in the Hawaiian Islands.
	And she was given them.
	As well as this knowledge that she would download through, you know, meditation, she would get information.
	So then she wrote these two books and in the books it depicts a trajectory of the development of
	The human races, but also the interference in our race, in our genome, and the hybridization that we've gone through time and time again, through interference with our, you know, bloodlines and so on, and through genetic engineering on the one hand, and also just through, you might say, raping the women, if you want to look at it like that.
	So this is why we are no longer just what, in a sense, human means man of many hues, you know, man in many colors.
	That's what the word human really means.
	But when you think of it, the bottom line is that we are We're not just one race and we are by no means pure if we want to call it that.
	Now the reptilians consider a human with a high degree of reptilian DNA And they have contributed their DNA to this mix.
	And the blue bloods, as we call them, the so-called royals, and that means, and also the rulers and the elite, tend to have a higher degree of reptilian DNA, which makes them, because the reptilian race is hierarchical, first and foremost, and it is also all about Through the hierarchy, intimidating the lower ranks.
	So everything is about intimidation and they are more aggressive than humanity.
	So when their genome was, when they infiltrated us, and they did, and invaded us, and they're still doing it, by the way, the children born then had a certain portion of their DNA, and were, depending the children born then had a certain portion of their DNA, and were, depending on the person, has
	So the leaders of our industries, the way they operate, the way they kind of give orders and expect people to bow down to them and, you know, that kind of thing.
	That whole power structure, if you will, of our planet has been geared Along these lines, so it's very much embedded in what we call the rulers and Going back to the Anunnaki, they are one race that came here, you know, the story goes, and these are Sumerian tablets that were then translated by this individual, Zacharias Sitchin.
	He's written like 12 books or more, and he's passed on now, but the bottom line is that he It's controversial.
	Not everyone agrees with his interpretation of the Sumerian tablets, but the bottom line is that there is a race called the Anunnaki, at least in the tablets, and they are depicted on the... I don't know if you've traveled to Egypt and other places of this kind, like Iraq and Iran, but you may have seen, you know, even in the London museums and so on,
	These depictions of these carvings, and in some cases we have sculptures of actual bodies, and in some cases you just have a carving, a drawing, for example, on the side of a temple.
	That depicts these beings so they are a lot of times they're depicted at least in Egypt they can be depicted as being bigger than us so they're around nine feet minimum tall and they they even hold humans on their laps so they consider themselves um are related to us and and what you might call progenitors
	But there is a fallacy and so part of the problem with the Bible is that the Bible was infiltrated by these races that came here, especially the Anunnaki around the time before the Bible, that tried to convince humans that they should be worshipped.
	They organized our societies and they assigned certain humans that were more related to them by bloodline And genetics again with the extra added because the Anunnaki are what you call a human reptoid or reptilian human reptilian hybrids themselves.
	They were invaded by the reptilians and taken over.
	eons ago in their own trajectory so when they come here they then invaded us so we're we have a sub race relationship but anyway um and so when they talk about Adam and Eve and the snake in the garden that's more of I say a children's story about genetic engineering and entering and putting their reptilian DNA into
	Our females who then would have a child who would combine that their DNA, and the ones that they decided were most closely related to them would be given the job as king or queen.
	and ruling over all the rest of the humans so that's how the whole crown and that whole thing started and it's even said that the royal family is of course got a lot of reptilian DNA and this is also gets into the human trafficking aspect and why one race or one group of our what we think of as all humans would prey on the other part.
	Because in most races, even off planet, it's unusual for one part of the race to prey on the other part.
	But this gets back to the reptilian DNA and the group that has more reptilian DNA than the Average human.
	So all of this is documented in the literature and in science and goes way back.
	But again, it's also depicted in the religion.
	In the Bible stories and so these are stories that were meant to teach humans where they really came from but they got distorted and there's something called the Temple of Nicaea which was a meeting of various
	I guess rulers and leaders around the time when the Bible was being put together, and they made sure that it slanted in a certain direction, and it's also very patriarchal, as you may know.
	So that, sorry to say, that a lot of the Bible has distortions, what we call distortions, in it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And when you say like, obviously, we call them the blue bloods, obviously, there's a reason because they're bloods.
	And the royals and people of that, you know, echelon, they won't mix with a lower class because when they have babies they want to keep the blood pure.
	Yes, again that gets back to the reptilian, yeah.
	And so is this why you think we have different blood groups because we've all been interfered with?
	Yes and you know it also gets to the point where even when you meet another person you have an immediate sort of visceral reaction to whether you like them or don't like them and a lot of time that goes back to their DNA and you know sort of our sensing that they're not of the same race we are and that they may be a threat consequently and you know this is goes way back so
	Yeah, so there has been a concentrated effort on the part of so-called royals and elites to try to mingle with their own kind, meaning others that have the high degree of reptilian DNA.
	So they will actually treat others the way an actual reptilian treats you if you were to meet one on the street.
	They actually require you to bow down and do all this kind of stuff.
	I mean, it's it's absurd from our point of view, but this is how this is the thinking.
	This is the history for really behind the the why why our society is the way it is and even goes to the Israeli-Palestinian War and why the elites in Britain helped create Israel.
	So, the thinking is that the Israelis are Not all.
	There's a mixture in every race, but a large degree of the Israelis are related to what are called the Khazarian race of beings, and they are humans with high degree of reptilian DNA in that area of the world.
	Consequently, you will see that they have much more These kind of cults that have cropped up, especially in religion, where they drink blood.
	And, and sacrifice children and eat them and all this kind of horrible stuff.
	And I, um, there's a place in Turkey called Gobekli Tepe.
	It's a famous ancient site.
	And, um, I went there and I've done a documentary on it and I've investigated it extensively.
	But one thing I found out is that buried in Gobekli Tepe, what they don't tell you, they don't want you to know.
	They found thousands of skulls of little children under the ground because of these blood cults that have inhabited that area of the world.
	So this is, you know, this is documented.
	It's real.
	It's not fantasy.
	It's a frightening thing to think this.
	When we talk about, obviously, that we are being governed It makes some of us feel that maybe they are too powerful, too strong for us to fight.
	What do you think about that?
	Well, on the contrary, I think that, you know, okay, let me go back to the Middle East and to the Anunnaki specifically.
	So there are two brothers, Enki and Enlil, and there's a lot of stories about this.
	So one One brother, Enlil, was given the Middle East to rule over by his father, and then the other was Enki.
	He was more of a doctor geneticist, and he was given Africa.
	And they both had different ways of ruling over the humans, and they had different attitudes.
	So Enki decided that humans should be more free, and he actually It's unclear whether he mated with the women of Earth or whether his DNA was genetically worked into our bloodlines down there.
	But bottom line was that that group became more rebellious and free-thinking.
	Whereas Enlil was much more of a despotic ruler who believed that humans should just follow orders.
	And so, consequently, a lot of those individuals did just that.
	They would be more obedient.
	Okay, so there was two kind of Ways of thinking and ways of behaving that the humans were trained to do just to survive, right?
	With these off-world rulers.
	So what happened down through the ages, that's why I call my book Rebel Gene, because I posit that we've all got genes or genetics, we've got DNA, that some of which has been called junk DNA, that actually gives us a proclivity to either be what you call an administrator, where you just you do and say whatever you've been told to do and say, and you follow orders.
	So those are the functionaries, we call them in our society, that are usually kind of in the middle rung of power, they're not the top, they just follow orders very well.
	Consequently, they climb the ladder of success because they obey, okay?
	Whereas there's a whole other group which has this rebel gene that's been activated, of which I am obviously a member.
	And since I was a kid, I would always talk back to teachers.
	I would rebel.
	I would get in trouble for it.
	It was simply my way of being.
	Nobody taught me how to be that way.
	I was just that way since birth.
	And even to this day, I've actually changed.
	My personality hasn't changed at all.
	So I always question.
	And it's also part of the reason why I didn't rise in the ranks.
	of the sort of top-down, you know, old boys network of Hollywood, because that also depends on individuals who will kiss someone's ass in order to get where they want to go.
	We're all familiar with that model.
	So it really, I mean, it strangely goes back, you know, eons back to the invasion coming from the Anunnaki and how humans devised two ways of, two major ways of, you know, dealing with people that want to rule over them.
	So you say, can we fight them?
	The ones with the rebel gene are going to be predisposed to fight against any kind of controllers.
	Now, I can tell you that the White Hats in the United States that you might have heard of, maybe you haven't, I've heard of them, but I don't know how much to believe.
	Because it's a Trump thing, isn't it?
	Yes, definitely.
	And Trump is, in a sense, the leader of it, or one of the leaders.
	And so is 107.
	If you want to know about it, JFK Jr., who didn't die, who faked his death, and so on and so forth.
	He's a member of the White Hats, and the White Hats are launching a very clear rebellion against the current New World Order plans for the United States, which Biden, who is actually the real one died, and this guy is an actor, is just following orders.
	You know, Zelensky is an actor.
	He follows orders.
	And, you know, going back, you know, way, way back.
	So we're talking about this drama playing out on earth, but it's becoming more and more sort of in your face.
	So the people who question, who rebel, you could say the entire truther movement, if you will, is all involved in all of this.
	Humans have begun to learn, and even the functionary side, the ones that are more predisposed to obey orders, not to think too deeply about questions of origin and who's in charge and all of that, not to question authority.
	You know, you must know, or maybe you're one of them.
	Maybe you're a person who has been, you know, or not, because you don't seem very much like a person like that would obey orders.
	But you know what I'm saying?
	And in England you know there's so in a certain sense it's kind of interesting in societies because whereas in England you have I have had not only was Bill Ryan was my boyfriend for the first year of being involved but that ended very quickly.
	Anyway I have had English men in my life and I've gone to England like I'm going there this Christmas again to be with a friend who's English.
	So I spend a fair amount of time every year in England and have for many, many years now.
	And that's kind of an interesting story, but it's in my book if you want to know more about that.
	Yeah, I'll share your book, definitely will share your book.
	But I thought Trump was part of the New World Order because he's very much connected to Israel and I thought he was actually one of the bad guys.
	Well, it's understandable.
	The thing is that this is the story.
	The story is that the White Hats, I happen to know more about the White Hats than most people because I was dealing with them before Q came to the fore, and before they were known in public.
	So I was already interviewing them, actually working with them behind the scenes, certain of their members, and so on.
	For years, actually, going back to 2010, I think.
	And even before.
	So I tend to know a little more about them than the average, even investigator in our midst.
	This is interesting.
	I'm interested.
	I'd love to know more about them.
	So they have a technique that was devised.
	First of all, their inspiration for coming forward and for creating the plan.
	Is John F. Kennedy and so if you you don't understand that they that they like use that inspiration to basically build an entire movement around.
	Which is the idea of telling the truth to the people.
	Okay, if you want to boil it down to some degree.
	That Kennedy, when he was killed, was about to do away with the CIA.
	He was exposing, actually about to expose, the visitation of, you know, aliens to Earth.
	That was one of the things he was going to speak about in Texas on that day.
	So, When you learn about this and you understand their motivations, then you understand why Trump and the White Hats behave this way, the way they do.
	So they realized when Kennedy was assassinated that they had to basically become A secret organization, much like the secret societies and the Illuminati, who rule our world.
	So they realized in order to stay alive, they had to become a secret society.
	So they have now You know, I guess, finesse this to the nth degree.
	And they are using techniques that the Illuminati have been using to rule over us for centuries.
	And some of those techniques are, you know, you or I might not approve of them, but they, in other words, Trump behaves in many ways.
	And he does these signs and signals with his body and his body language.
	And he says certain key words.
	And then when you follow Q and the movement and educate yourself on what these things mean, including numerology called gematria, which is also very much the signs and symbols that the Illuminati have been communicating with their members using.
	So it's kind of funny, but they're both using the same, you know, there's only so much under the sun that is unique and different.
	So they, we all use numbers, for example.
	So the interpretation of the White Hats and how they're using numbers or numerology, gematria, to counter the numbers, the same numbers, I mean, but interpreting them in opposite ways and things like that.
	So It's, you know, it's quite an involved subject, but this is to explain Trump's behavior and some of the things he says and does.
	Now, it's interesting to me, and maybe to people that are studying the White Hats, and eventually there will be books written about the White Hats and all the things I'm talking about.
	How they operate, what's their modus operandi, and why they chose to do the things they do.
	But basically it's because they're a secret society that is actually worldwide now.
	It's involved with ex-military, ex-law enforcement, or current military, and current even are secretly members of their group as opposed to the Illuminati.
	So their mission is to save humanity from the reptilians in essence.
	They don't put it in those terms because nobody wants to acknowledge that we're ruled by reptilians.
	But the bottom line is, if you really want to know their mission, their mission is to save humanity and Earth by default.
	So Oh, and to take back the earth and take back the power of humanity against these alien reptilian rulers.
	Now, calling them alien, would reptilians think they own the earth?
	They had been coming here before we had.
	So in some cases they, you could perhaps say they do, but apparently, at least according to, you know, the galactic races out there.
	Humanity was given the right to be sovereign here on earth and to rule over earth actually.
	So in a sense we're in a constant battle to command the earth and to rule over it and so are the reptilians.
	So we are contested in that sense.
	So it's very important.
	And English are very much part of this battle.
	Of course, England and America being more or less partners in the battle.
	However, strangely, England is also the home of the Illuminati.
	The Dark Magicians, as we call them, and so is France, for example.
	So the P2 Lodge, if you've never heard of that, or if you've heard of the Vatican, you know that, you know, the Vatican's tentacles very much involve the rulers, so-called rulers of England, you know, the royal family and so on.
	So they've been hand in glove and been actually even battling at time to time in various of the Kingships, so to speak, here.
	I mean, they're in England, not wanting to bow to the to the head of the reptilian human division, which is supposedly Pope or the Black Pope.
	So this drama has been playing itself out.
	What the White Hats have done is actually create, like I say, a secret society to counter the Illuminati, recruited their members, have a high secrecy oath.
	I even tried to join them, even though I've worked with them in the past, and I was told, no, it's too late.
	And, you know, because I'm a journalist, there could have been extenuating circumstances there because they demand a certain amount of secrecy in order to be a member with them.
	And this is a self-preservation approach, right?
	Because And it's kind of funny because they're using the same techniques as the Illuminati.
	They are also like, how do you deceive someone who is using the same techniques as you?
	You're probably not really deceiving them all that much.
	And there's arguably also using, at this time and in this day and age, what we call AI.
	So they're both using AI to track their trajectories and to figure out what's their next move.
	And that includes the moves of Trump.
	And so this is where you get the role of Israel going back to being Khazarian, going back to being ruled very closely by the Anunnaki.
	And I interviewed a journalist going way back when many years ago and see my situation is different than a lot of journalists in and other people investigating because I have followed Through talking to thousands of people and thousands of whistleblowers, I've been able to connect dots that other people don't necessarily even have at their disposal.
	So it allows me to see the big picture, what you would call the big picture, as opposed to what is normally talked about in talk shows.
	So do you think Trump is going to win next year?
	Yes, I do.
	Now I'm a precog.
	I have dreams of the future and I've also have what you call activated kundalini.
	So I went into meditation when I was in my early 20s.
	I connected all my chakras and have had multiple samadhi experiences since then.
	So when you do that, you also activate your psychic abilities and They sort of jumpstart them, if you will.
	And I was already sort of psychically attuned when I was a kid anyway.
	And so over the years, I have had numerous dreams of the future.
	And my dreams tend to come true, even when I don't believe they will.
	And so what I'm seeing right now, for example, we're having an invasion of our southern border by a lot of Chinese young Military-aged Chinese men.
	This is documented now in public knowledge.
	Because Biden has left the borders unguarded, in essence.
	And so, as a result, we have been invaded by refugees, yes, but also plenty of military from not just China, but also other places that are part of the New World Order plan to take us over.
	Same as us in the UK.
	Yes, exactly.
	Immigrants who are allegedly UN soldiers.
	Right.
	And so this is what we're looking at.
	See, when the Illuminati... I mean, they're not shy about telling you exactly what they're planning, right?
	So they've got Klaus Schwab, arguably one of their semi-leaders, whatever you want to call that.
	He will tell you, you know, that basically they consider the United States the one last obstacle to their rule of the planet.
	Okay, to where they would turn us all into a totalitarian society, where we are absolutely surveilled to the nth degree, which Britain has certainly been on the avant-garde of that.
	And, you know, that is, you know, and eventually taking over our monetary system to where they know exactly who we are, when we spend money, and what we spend it on, so on and so forth.
	In other words, ruling over us.
	Thoroughly and completely and allowing no freedoms, what we know of as freedoms in the West, to survive in essence.
	So the United States is kind of the last bastion of freedom, if you will, and so this is their objective has been always to take over the United States and they've done that by infiltrating our Presidential elections, completely taking over the elections and making fake ballots and all that.
	So that the, in 2020 Trump, okay, so what the White Hats did is they put, they invest, they recruited the NSA who became kind of alongside the White Hats to some degree.
	And they devised a plan using blockchain To track everyone's vote in the election of 2020.
	And they know for a fact, and they have all the evidence, and they have had since then, that Trump won.
	Yeah.
	So what happened after Biden was sworn in is that Trump was re-sworn in as Commander-in-Chief.
	He has the nuclear codes.
	They were never given by the military to Biden.
	So the Biden administration hates that.
	That's why they invaded, you know, Mar-a-Lago and why they're trying to put Trump up on charges and all this type of thing.
	So we have a war within our country.
	We've been invaded by these invaders, New World Order, flunkies like Biden, and a lot of Congress even have been traitors, complete traitors, and alongside, you know, alongside the New World Order.
	And so on.
	So this is the whole, I mean, it's kind of funny because I am laying the whole thing out very simply here.
	I hope that people will see this and be able to kind of connect all these dots that a lot of people haven't.
	So let's get back to why Trump appears to be aligned with Israel.
	Yeah.
	You gotta understand the push comes to shove here on the planet.
	If we're ruled behind the scenes by the Anunnaki who have never left, according to my whistleblowers, and who are hidden in our society, and who have aligned themselves with things like, you know, the rulers and assigned, you know, the blue bloods and so on and so forth.
	So, they are the ones that are holding the cap down on Our monetary system as well.
	And they're the ones who are kind of leading the charge of the New World Order to completely take us over using AI and so on and so forth.
	So in essence, that's kind of where we stand at this time.
	And Trump and Israel See, Israel has to be exposed, and that's what's happening right now.
	So they have become, sad to say, their rulers.
	And this is not the everyday people.
	You know, I travel in the Middle East, I lead tours of Egypt, I've been in Israel, and I love the Middle East and the Middle Eastern peoples in general, including the Israelis.
	But The thing is that their rulers are very much aligned with the Anunnaki.
	They have to be because the Anunnaki You know, when the Israelis call themselves the chosen people, they weren't chosen by God, which is God of the whole megaverse and everything in it, good, bad and ugly.
	They are ruled by, they're chosen by the Anunnaki to, you know, to what other circumstances they have, and to be given a certain amount of extra reptilian DNA.
	So there is, in a sense, the Jewish people, Whether they know it or not are more aligned to the Anunnaki by bloodline.
	And this is why they a lot of what goes on on the planet is kind of orchestrated from within and underground in Israel.
	And this is where the Mossad have their role and so so and so forth.
	So there's a huge dilemma going on and You know, a lot of people don't understand this.
	They think, you know, there's also the element that has to do with the Sunni and the Shiite in the Middle East.
	That's an ongoing battle behind the scenes with that on a racial level that goes back eons.
	We're witnessing some of that drama.
	The Israelis have become the Nazis that they supposedly abhor from history.
	They are now oppressing the Palestinians exactly like they were, you know, a concentration camp by the Nazis and so on and so forth.
	So this is what's, you know, the motivation also behind there is, you know, these.
	Now I happen to think that they have had to mind control a lot of their soldiers to do the things they're doing to invade Gaza and to just, you know, basically just, you know, just destroy the homes of Palestinians and to move them south.
	Which is part of what is in essence a pipeline or a canal called the Ben-Gurion Canal that they want to build and so on and so forth.
	So it's funny because there's nothing that goes on on earth that doesn't go back to this ancient history.
	And that's why it's so important that people start to realize what is our ancient history and who are we really.
	So we weren't really, we weren't created by God, that's what you're saying, we were created from another... Well no, I believe as, you know, we're actually, you know, spirits and souls having material existence.
	So our bodies are a composite of various ET races, both good and bad, that were created.
	But this is a humanoid shape, which is very common in the multiverse.
	Not just humans, but other races of, you know, basically humanoid shapes, you know, in various degrees and various You know, heights and all that.
	But we are spirits inhabiting these bodies out of choice and we go back to source.
	So we are definitely, in a sense, every human is a portal to the divine, if you want to look at it like that.
	And so do you believe in reincarnation?
	Yes, absolutely.
	And I have memories of my reincarnations.
	My understanding is that we can't leave Earth because we don't, you know, I think even NASA said it themselves that there's no way we can leave because the firmament or what you want to call it, Van Allen's Belt... It's a lie because that's not how they travel anyway.
	We went to the moon with help.
	And the bottom line is that we go interdimensional.
	So we jump, okay, in essence.
	We don't into even another dimension in order to travel in space.
	We don't go, like, straight from X to Y, you know.
	When we travel, we travel interdimensionally, as do the aliens, you know.
	So that's what they're... So it's not like you see in the films where they go up into space and You can travel a certain distance, but if you really want to go far, you have to jump.
	I mean, it's in Star Trek as well, you know, they call it warps, you know, going warp speed and all that.
	So, I mean, they're depicting the truth to some degree.
	But not everything.
	And, you know, that gets into free energy or zero point energy and what it takes to travel interdimensionally and so on and so forth.
	And that's a whole other subject that's quite long.
	So we've been going for a while.
	Actually, I have another show that I have to do not too long from now, so I can't stay on too much longer.
	But go ahead.
	We'll wrap up very quickly.
	So is Putin part of the White Hats?
	Is Putin a White Hat?
	Well, OK, first of all, it's my understanding that first of all, there was one Putin and then sometime in around, oh God, I don't know the exact year, but there was that Putin, the original Putin, if you actually look at his physicality, the way he behaved and everything, he was a completely different person than the other one that we're used to.
	The one we're used to doesn't even look like that guy, but he is is a clone or was a clone.
	And I assume the first Putin was killed.
	So the second Putin that we have been seeing on this, you know, on the world stage and so and so forth, and and that was recruited in a sense to help out the White Hats, because Russia and is is like hip, more hip as any other country.
	To the rulership that the New World Order reptilians want to have over Earth, and they don't want any part of it.
	So, because we were friends with the same enemy, you know how that works, we are more aligned with Russia than we realize.
	And Putin, as a consequence, has been working with us.
	And in fact, Putin invaded Russia, not invaded Ukraine, not only because NATO had threatened them and forced them into it by putting missile defense and various things right on their border, right next to their border, which was a violation of everything in their original agreements with Russia.
	So they forced them into it on purpose, which is a New World Order action.
	So they forced Putin to retaliate, which meant to go into Ukraine, which was one of the funding countries.
	However, At the same time, Ukraine has been a hotbed, by virtue of it being part of Khazaria, actually, of this blood-drinking cult that involves the Nazis and the New World Order.
	and the reptilian species that has infiltrated our DNA and a certain group of humans so that they practically consider us a different race and they feed on us as consequence.
	So Russia and Putin decided they would invade Ukraine to take help us take down the underground bases
	that contained a lot of uh children in cages in essence and you know humans being used in experiments and uh child trafficking and human trafficking a huge network of that that was orchestrated from the Ukraine for for many many years and as part of the the battle that the White Hats are launching
	It has gone on for years now because they couldn't just put Trump in place like a dictator.
	That wouldn't work in America.
	And they were trying to avoid civil war, supposedly, although now we're on the brink of it.
	The bottom line is that they had to go around and this is where you might have seen videos where Trump went around and give envelopes to every leader of a country and what that envelope contained was in essence blackmail telling them that if they continued along the roads they were doing which is to bow down to the new world order and kiss ass and to
	He'd be involved in drugs and human trafficking that they would be exposed Okay, that their dirty laundry in essence would be washed in public.
	And so these leaders had to to some degree Acquiesce to the What is in essence what white hats?
	Under Trump.
	So this is part of this whole drama going on and now apparently There is evidence that in the underground bases under Israel, a lot of the same thing has been going on for centuries and a lot of the blood sacrifice, etc.
	So the people on the surface and even in the tunnels under Gaza, for example, are not aware of what I'm talking about.
	They don't realize what they live among and, you know, they themselves may not be, you know, bloodthirsty, whatever, you know what I'm saying?
	They're just humans and many of those humans may not even be all that, have that much Khazarian blood.
	It depends on, because everywhere is such a mixture at this point.
	So, I'm just saying that this is part of the battle going on.
	I mean, it's really, you can shell it down to the simplest thing ever, which is that one group is ruled by the reptilians and wants to be, in essence, wants to kiss ass in order to get the favor And to rise to the top in the world ruled by reptilians.
	And the other part doesn't.
	The other part is rebelling against that.
	And they are led, whether you like it or you don't like it, by the White Hats who have gotten involved with the military and got Trump to run for office and so on and so forth.
	Trump was an extremely wealthy man who had no
	no reason to want to put himself in the position he has other than he is a what we call a patriot he loves humanity but he also loves the United States he didn't want to be ruled by a totalitarian government anywhere more than any of us do and so you know he is very much aligned with us but to get back to the vinyl you know and this is my last remarks here
	In order to get along and go along with the current administration that is ruling planet Earth, you could say, the Anunnaki, arguably, which is our reptilian, again, reptilian humanoids, some look more reptilian than others, and the Draco that rule over the reptilians, okay, so they're behind the scenes as well, there are limits here on Earth to what you can get away with without
	like getting into a war that destroys the earth and kills both sides.
	Do you know what I'm saying?
	Right.
	Yes.
	So Trump has to be very mercurial, and he is.
	In fact, he's a Gemini.
	And he is able to also make friends and influence people, negotiate with people.
	He's famous for this, okay?
	I mean, for God's sake, he negotiated a sort of a quasi-friendship with the head of North Korea, of all things.
	I mean, so he's really quite good at this.
	And like most salesmen, you know, these kinds of people, these personalities, they tend to...
	To kind of cover over their differences and try to go along and get along on the surface, but do not make a mistake in thinking that Trump is anything other than a patriot and that the United States comes first and freedom comes first, not the Israelis and not their rulers.
	Okay.
	Thank you so much for your time, I really enjoyed this and it's always great to learn directly from people that have spent so many years doing this research.
	So thank you, I want to thank you because I know it's quite hard to get a hold of you and you've got a lot on, but I really do want to thank you for your time.
	And what I'll do as well is I'll put all your links to your channel and your books and whatever other link you would like me to put on here.
	Please send it to me and I'll send you a copy of this when it's over.
	All right.
	Very good.
	And it's been lots of fun talking to you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you everyone for listening and I hope you've enjoyed it.
	And I'll speak to you all again very, very soon.
	Bye for now.

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