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July 19, 2023 - Project Camelot
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LEWIS HERMS: THE AWAKENING, SOUND OF FREEDOM AND CHANGING THE WORLD
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- Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and very happy to be here today.
I have Lewis Herms with me, and great to see you, Lewis.
Wonderful to see you.
Good to be here.
And so it's going to be, I don't know, crazy next couple months, I guess, if you listen to 107 and get any idea from that.
What do you think?
Well, regardless of what one or anybody says, I think the tea leaves are all leading in that direction.
Let's assume that there's no White Hats, there's no movie, there's nothing going on.
It's still leading in that direction because you just see all the mayhem that's going through the news media and the Congress and in states in general and going on with Trump.
It's just, it's madness.
So it has to reach ahead and it's going to soon, I believe also.
Okay, now, have you noticed that there's kind of a shift going on in the public, right?
In regards to our awakening?
Yes, that, but the movie seems to have spearheaded maybe a portion of the population that hasn't up to now been paying much attention, would you say?
Oh, 100%.
And so it seems to have triggered them, sometimes good, sometimes bad, but there's some weird dialogues going on there.
I've written a number of articles.
I don't know if you've done any shows about it or anything like that.
And then you have your own documentary cages that I, you know, I put out for people to watch as well, and that can augment what they're learning.
So, do you want to kind of comment on that?
And, you know, obviously you saw the first, you know, the Sound of Freedom.
I can't remember.
Did you see it a long time ago like I did, or did you see it recently?
No, I just saw it recently, actually, and I heard it was revised a little bit from what you saw.
Okay.
I can tell you in regards from cages to Sound of Freedom, I haven't quite made $100 million on cages yet.
It's because it's free.
Is that a joke?
Yeah, yeah.
I give it out to everybody.
Because that's just I just want everybody to get the information for free.
But Sound of Freedom is just about ready to crest the $100 million mark, which is amazing.
There's a lot of controversy around the movie.
Good, bad, and indifferent.
I do feel like there's a sea change in people waking up because of it.
Now, a lot of people talk about the intentions that may be surrounded this awakening of this movie.
Regardless of that, people are waking up, and I think we can overcome any, if there are any negative intentions around it, and I'm not saying there are, but if there are, I believe we can overcome it, because that's the part of this awakening that I think we're in, where we just shrug it off and move forward.
There's a real push, I think, from certain sectors and doubt what you call doubters who want to draw attention to how it was financed as opposed to the movie itself.
Yeah.
And strangely, if you look at that, if you look at that paradigm, and of course, you know, I worked in Hollywood for 20 years, so How something is financed, in many ways, has nothing to do with the content.
It's a money-making operation, for number one.
And that's first and foremost.
Secondly, it's a star vehicle.
In this case, we have Jim Caviezel, who people would, it's kind of like backing horses.
They back a horse.
This is literally how Hollywood thinks about it.
And then, and investors as well.
And the other thing is, you know, because they're looking at the bottom line, they're looking at, can I make money fast if I put in whatever I put in?
And there's something in Hollywood called creative accounting.
That's what they call it.
And this is how a movie makes back their money.
But who gets paid first?
The investors, right?
So understanding that That pyramid or the trajectory of the payment system and then understanding how Hollywood has always operated.
Where do people think all these other wonderful movies, The Godfather, you name it, how did they get financed?
Do they really think that the financiers Of all these famous movies, and we're talking, you know, 100 million, probably budgets even in advance of this movie.
Okay.
And where do they think that money comes from?
Where do they think, who runs their banks?
Who runs, you know, who runs the government?
Who runs the corporations?
Where do they think these people come from?
And do they think that people actually refuse money in Hollywood because they don't like your background, for example?
Yeah, so it's interesting you'd say that, because as you know, movies are funded in packages generally anyway, so it could be four Jim Caviezel movies, or it could be 10 movies and one just happens to have Caviezel in them, and the funding agents are in packets too, like the investors are an investment group.
I think the mistake that happened here, and I don't know if it was intentional, because we know there's all these white hat operations going on, is Tim Ballard mentioned Carlos Slim, And I think, so the focus is totally on Carlos Slim.
Is Carlos Slim a bad guy?
Yeah, every indication seems like he is a bad dude, a real bad dude.
So, don't know why he mentioned him, he was asked about it, but this is a major film and these films are not funded by an independent person.
I know, I was actually in the middle of getting films funded in the past.
Right.
Very, very, very, very small, small films.
And you don't go to larger investors.
And, but in Hollywood, they're almost all part of a group.
There's, there's no single one person or funding.
And one of the reasons why is they want to diversify and protect their investment.
They don't want to lose all their money.
They'd rather make 20 or 30% on their money than risk a hundred percent of their money.
So that's why they do it in these investor groups.
Not only that, but keeping in mind that, you know, Hollywood is like a structure.
It's kind of built like, you might say, a castle system.
So you have the top people that run everything.
Then you have the studios, right?
And the studio heads.
And then you have the people that feed their money into it, hoping to get the profit out of it.
I mean, it's a gigantic Operation and it is like you say investors themselves are protected.
How are they protected?
By being in groups, right?
Even their names and their corporations will be protected with all kind of clauses and such.
And it's even possible, I'm not saying it happened, but that all this investor got, like let's say Slim, is a one line, what we call a log line, and the list of stars in it.
I, you know, I can't remember exactly, but the only star that we remember is Jim Caviezel.
Okay.
And then they'll get the company that's putting it forward.
In this case, it was a Disney movie, if I recall, that sat on the shelf after it was made for around five years.
So once it was made, the corporation decides whether or not it's a PR card that they want out there or they don't.
And I did a television show.
We went through the same process.
Our show was put on the shelf.
And just emerged accidentally because one weekend they didn't have enough filler and they threw our show in and we got notified.
And so it did show one night, one Friday night, all of a sudden.
But in this case, you've got a whole theatrical release that either has to happen or it's going to go online.
In this case, this movie actually did go online for a short time, I'm told.
And then some way, somehow, Jim Caviezel connected with Juan, told him about the movie, maybe showed him the movie, and then Juan being Juan, and a white hat, and seeing that the movie was right along the lines of educating people to what they want them to be aware of.
Jumped on this movie and then took another two or three years to actually do what's called positioning it in the marketplace, raising distribution, a distributor and distribution money to put it in theaters.
So it's a whole process that involves hundreds and maybe even thousands of people.
So yeah.
Well, there's a political aspect too, and there's a risk aspect that people don't understand.
And I actually owned a small theater at one time, so I can address this.
So give you an example, and this goes directly to your point of how the studios and the investors get paid.
They're number one.
So in my theater, if I commissioned a movie to come over, if it was a first week release movie, I would pay from my theater, A bulk fee up front, plus somewhere between 60 and 75% of the ticket sale, right back to the studio.
By the way, if anybody wants to know why a Coke is so expensive or a popcorn in the theater, because that's the only way they can make money.
They lose their ass when they give money to the studio that doesn't even pay for the air conditioning in the building.
But that being said, there's a political aspect, too, that people have, I mean, theaters have to weigh.
So we have to think of it this way.
If you know your risk is so high on this movie and your reward is low, theaters are apprehensive to put the film in.
Not all theaters are bad guys.
There's a lot of independent theaters out there, but they still refuse a movie because of the fear of protests and losing money, and they have to do a risk-reward balance.
So one even mentioned years ago they were having a lot of trouble getting Sound of Freedom into the movie theaters.
There's still proof of that today, so I can tell you because I just did an assessment on this.
Indiana Jones is in 4,600 theaters.
No.
The reason why that's crazy, that's I believe more than a thousand of Sound of Freedom that's in.
Sound of Freedom was outgrossing Indiana and Jones big time in the United States, yet they still couldn't get it in as many theaters.
But the political machine also got behind Indiana Jones because they were upset about Sound of Freedom taking over their numbers, therefore they got it pushed into more theaters.
In fact, there's not another movie this year that has even come close to 4,600 more.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that's only the beginning of the political discussion, right?
mark.
So that just tells you the political makeup that's going on here too.
If that adds context into your conversation.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that's, that's only the beginning of the political discussion, right?
So, and then there's a feedback loop and so on.
But again, I have, I've talked about this and there's a clip actually right now that I sent around.
It's now on telegram, on my telegram that people didn't see a couple of years ago at the Patriot double down when one of seven was on stage with Jim Caviezel and talking about what With the marketing guy that he had, I guess, brought on board to market the movie back then.
And at the time, he was still thinking he might release it online, interestingly.
And then subsequent to that, I know that he decided not to.
Now, he and I had a direct conversation about this movie and how he was going to release it.
At the time, I just said, why don't you put it online?
You know, it made sense.
But he said, no, I've decided to go theatrical.
That's the way I want to do it.
So he had made an early decision because this discussion, I think, happened Yeah, well, it happened at the first meeting that I had with him with the group of journalists, which was in March, February, March of 2021.
And then the Patriot Double Down was in October of 2021, so about six months before.
So anyway, What I'm saying is that if you want to watch his intention and then what actually happened.
And so you can see that this movie is kind of taken on a life of its own in terms of box office and in terms of how could they predict how humans would relate to this movie?
You know what I mean?
It could have gotten buried had it been an online movie.
There have been actually more serious human trafficking movies and documentaries, aside even from your own, that have been released on Netflix over the past couple years.
They did not have that kind of impact, obviously.
This was a very general Admission, general release, right?
So that ended up to be the right move to wake people up, at least initially.
This blowback we're having to attack the financiers And even to attack, for example, Ballard and his past association with Hillary Clinton and the, you know, well, he worked for the CIA apparently, and other associations that he's had.
In other words, it's immaterial.
It's not material to the movie and to the truth behind the movie.
Which again is about the amount of money going into human trafficking on earth right now is greater than it's ever been, but it's also in the billions.
It's outstripping drugs and guns.
Drugs and gun running at this time.
Yeah, I'd say a trillion, by the way, based on the numbers that I've come up.
Okay.
Because they only documented about 5% of it, and if you multiply that by 20, you're over a trillion dollars.
I believe Sound of Freedom said it's $170 billion.
I know why they said that, because they don't want the fact-checkers and the snopes and everybody to go after them, but the reality is it's a lot, lot more than $170 billion.
I think that's completely believable, and what we're getting also is Um, I don't know.
Herrera.
This, uh, you, you might have seen the disclosure witness called, uh, Michael Herrera, who came out.
He was on, um, the, I think it was the Daily News or whatever in, in London, one of the major papers, and a few other papers here.
Stephen Greer had him at a small, I guess, press conference where other disclosure witnesses came out along with that particular Intelligence agent who had been approached by certain people and so on and so forth.
This all happened, I think it was in May or June, right, of this year.
So what happens is in Herrera's story, he actually saw cages of humans being loaded onto a UFO.
And this was back 19 years ago or something insane.
Try telling that story in the mainstream.
Exactly, but it got in a British mainstream paper.
Now, I don't think that they quite knew that the positioning of Herrera would come out at the same time as this movie, to where people, if they have half a brain, could start to put two and two together.
I can tell you that I was supposed to interview Herrera, and he's been putting me off.
In part, he says he suddenly got a huge order for his company.
Understandably, business comes first, right?
You will have to survive.
But this is actually what happens a lot to witnesses that I'm going to interview.
Suddenly, they'll get a huge distraction, which means a big account or some money or some door opening to where they can go through that door but they don't have time to go through to an interview with me.
Why?
Because that's probably going to put even whatever the new business is in jeopardy once people put two and two together and realize what he had been disclosing.
So this is what we have.
We actually have I think you call it a confluence of events all happening at the same time through what you might call, there are no coincidences, but maybe there are some intentional things at play, right?
Where this whole subject matter had to come to the fore anyway.
Very soon, because the child trafficking story was getting what we call legs anyway in the media in small ways.
And then the Biden family that I have to say, you know, Hunter's laptop is going to reveal some of this as well.
Their investments in both Taiwan, including Nancy Pelosi and her husband, including the rest of these players, Their investments in places like Ukraine and Taiwan having to do with this underground railroad, if you will, of trafficking and that linking back to, of course, Epstein.
So we have a trail where people normally can't connect the dots because they're too far apart and too isolated from each other.
Suddenly, if they are at all intelligence and are paying attention, we'll start to begin to connect these dots.
And that's a good thing for us, for people like us who are trying to get the truth out.
Yeah, I believe that the breadcrumbs have been intentionally thrown down little bit by little bit to end up getting them to the big stories because there's no way that they could have made that leap emotionally because there's so much cognitive dissonance that they couldn't I believe that the breadcrumbs have been intentionally thrown down little Little bit by little bit to end up getting them to the big stories, because there's no way that they could have made that leap emotionally, because there's so much cognitive dissonance that they couldn't believe.
That it's possible that there could even be a bad vaccine out there, or that a mask wouldn't work to protect you from a virus that's 500 times smaller than the smallest hole in the mask.
People just, they had trouble grasping that, so I really think this small breadcrumb being laid out to build up to this moment, it's got to be intentional.
It's actually quite genius, and for you and I, frustrating because we want to get it done, But it actually, the more I think about it, it absolutely makes sense.
Because I've seen truth barfing, and I've seen it not be effective at all.
And then I've seen, which I teach, is the slow acclimation to a conversation, and it seems to work.
And that's what they're doing in the macro, in the bigger picture.
Right.
Well, I think that's true to some extent, but I also think that there are like I'm talking about Herrera.
Now, what's happening is two sides that in theory don't work together are ending up working together against their better judgment.
Do you see what I'm saying?
So, yes, there is some intentionality.
Certainly Juan had a huge sort of vote In terms of getting this movie and the serendipity of, let's say, Caviezel connecting with Juan.
I don't know that's how he found out about the movie, but I think that's how he found out.
Would be an actor who, think about it, whenever this movie was made, I don't know the exact film date, right, when they actually shot it and put it in the cans, so to speak.
But I do know that it sort of sat on the shelf, as we call it, in Disney.
And so it reached a roadblock, even after it was shot.
So Caviezel, as an actor starring within a starring role, would have wanted his movie to come out, regardless of the topic.
But in this case, he has children of his own.
He would see the crucial, you know, nature of it, and developed a relationship, again, with the man he played, Tim Ballard, right?
So it's interesting how these things had to add up together and in a certain structure that I don't think were necessarily intentional.
At least for these particular players.
It could have been what we call the zeitgeist.
It could have been, you know, a psychic intuition, you know, that put Caviezel with Vaughn at the right time in the right place in terms of White Hat timing, you know, and that.
Or it could be an instrumental Um, approach by a hidden white hat that is not, you know, in the public eye, right?
Seeing, uh, again, things that could be put together that could hit the, the sort of, again, the zeitgeist and the, and the sort of milieu and of people's consciousness at the right time.
So Timing is important no doubt because also if the movie hadn't been delayed it might have hit the even if it was a theatrical release it could have died in the theaters easily.
100% agree.
Without the backing of the White Hats and the connections the kind of connections that 107 has and you know this is Independent of you so I'm not trying to wrap you in here but is if indeed I'm correct about him being JFK jr which is at this point I think really obvious but nonetheless he has special inroads to Hollywood now I had I was talking about this in another interview and
Oh, I think it was Jim Willey who said, well, he thinks he actually, this is what he said, I'm not saying this, he would have blackmailed, the White Hats would have blackmailed some of these people in Hollywood.
But I don't think arm twisting was really necessary, if I understand Hollywood as well as I do, right?
Because there are elements here that Juan would have been able to, you know, bring in his best friends or his good friends from the movie business.
To realize the import of this and to realize how it hits home with their own families.
Because contrary to what a lot of people think, I know they're now painting Hollywood as like the den of evil, but I worked there for 20 years and I worked around people that I think were inherently good.
They weren't involved in these kinds of things, you know, they weren't They just were following a dream, which is, you know, that's what Hollywood was really all about.
That's why I went there.
Because it may have been propaganda, but nonetheless, it was very persuasive.
Follow your dreams, you know, and you can actually change the world.
I'm just saying that I think that yes, there is this thing where we go, there is a hidden hand behind it in certain ways to push this along, but there's some fortuitous elements that are built into the equation that were, you know, that if they weren't there, it wouldn't have happened, even with some other elements.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I do.
I think there's a whole quantum realm aspect to this, and that's just maybe my words that I use for this.
I do believe there's a collective consciousness that is more willing to accept this information than they would have three or four years ago, for sure.
So timing is everything, and I believe you do attract these things to you, and there's a manifestation that goes along with it.
I mean, it's a lot bigger than anybody could possibly imagine.
In regards to Hollywood, I'm glad you brought this up.
I've been in the belief, and there's been some undertones of this, that there's almost two Hollywoods, possibly.
And there's a white hat Hollywood, and then there's a black hat Hollywood, and these production companies kind of don't mix and mingle.
They do share stars.
Back and forth and then some stars are corrupted, some are gray, some are white, some don't go.
They will not do anything for the Black Hat Studios.
This is the undertone that I've been hearing for a couple of years and you're kind of just adding to that and it sounds very feasible that's possible because Not everything is as black and white as we're told, and that would be the Masonic images that were presented anyways.
There's always a whole color of hue in the middle, and that's for some reason, we stay away from that.
I'd like to dive into that a lot more than we normally do.
Yes.
And like I say, I think it's, you know, it's true.
I mean, this is what kind of shocks me about a lot of the people, like fellow journalists that are going down this road.
Well, I saw, you know, I discovered this investor was in the background, you know, like some evil plot.
And I think that they miss the fact it doesn't matter what it is.
I don't care if it's Washington, D.C., you know, Paris, France, Russia, you know, China.
Everything has a combination of light and dark, always operational at any given time, and that we are living in a time when these things are coming into sharp relief.
You know, so they're they're really in your face and but they are still intermingled.
And I think that that's vital to realize.
You know, I was.
I wrote this article talking about, you know, well, who built Hollywood?
Who built New York City?
Who built Rome?
You know, I'm talking about the architects.
I'm talking about the caterers to serve the food.
I'm talking about, you know, the bit players.
I'm talking about in life, right?
I mean, who built Las Vegas?
And is it all dark?
You know, are these things all dark?
No.
They're filled with people who have hopes and dreams and, you know, are pursuing good the best way they know how, who are raising children with the right, you know, moral values, I guess you might say, and other things.
So And yes, I also think that we are living in a time of what's called the unveiling, the apocalypse, the, you know, there's a reason why this is as a potent concept, because we are also experiencing, even without these sort of on the ground, feet on the ground, you know, pieces of evidence, one can feel that there's overall a change in
Humanity around the globe and the understanding and certainly the internet has everything to do with that.
Okay.
In other words, the spread of knowledge and information.
You don't have to go to a library to become educated about your world, right?
And so I think it's more crucial now than ever before to understand the interplay of light and dark, to realize that you have a choice in every given moment of which to side with, you know, whether to tell a lie or to tell the truth, right?
And that our time, this time, I think, energetically, actually, if you wanted to look at it from a totally, you know, you looked at the planets and all that, you would see that we are in a time of what they would say is, again, this sort of piercing of the veil, unveiling a move towards truth.
So the beings on this planet, even the ones on the dark, have no choice but to begin to see the other side.
So just like a person on the side of light is seeing more darkness, the dark is actually having to come to terms with the light being right in their face.
Yeah, I agree.
I think there's a massive shift that is not calculable.
So I've noticed over the last few years a couple things.
People seem to be friendlier in general, which is interesting.
They seem to be less confrontational.
In fact what brought this to my attention just recently is we've been traveling and I was shocked that within a day two people shut the elevator door real quick so we couldn't get in.
I'm like well that's weird I haven't seen that in a long time because I've noticed it even like big muscular guys they step in front of you they're like hey I'm so sorry you know I apologize.
I believe we're having a shift an absolutely quantum shift where things are heading in the right direction And the light is overtaking the dark.
And what the reality is, is the dark needed the light to be the forefront of everything they do.
And then they would hide in the shadows behind that.
They could have never gotten as big and dark and dastardly without positioning good people, compartmentalized, the people didn't even know it.
Absolutely.
good people in front of him.
I actually know a mayor that was a mayor of a city for over 20 years in that exact situation.
Such a great guy.
He didn't know that there's dark forces behind him because they kept using him for light.
They needed that face.
But it's very interesting.
But I see it changing me personally, and I'm kind of excited about it.
Absolutely.
Well, I also want to say that this is another piece of this, which, you know, philanthropy, these kinds of sort of idealistic contribute to the greater whole corporations and outreach these kinds of sort of idealistic contribute to the greater whole corporations and outreach that the dark side uses, just as you say,
In other words, I think a lot of people never really thought about how you have those ads where certain companies that are notorious companies That are suddenly saying, oh, they're invested in this and they're invested in that wonderful project for humanity, blah, blah, blah.
In other words, they have been doing this since the beginning of time.
Dark entities are not so stupid as to parade themselves as they are.
They have been in disguise.
And what actually became very shocking is that change.
Now what's interesting is the dark is more willing now to parade as dark.
True to itself than it ever was, I think, before.
We are getting some gloves-off, Illuminati moves, dark magician moves.
They're right in your face, like Klaus Schwab announcing, New World Order, here we come.
You know, you will be happy, know nothing, you know, just putting their principles, their plans for you, their VAX plans, the future VAX plans with Gates and all these people.
They have their poster people like Fauci spouting off their plans for you, which are incredibly diabolical.
That this is where the mind control of the masses got so pervasive that I think the dark was thinking that they could actually come out and just say what they're going to do.
I mean there is a new Disney, somebody sent this to me, oh I know it's Stu Peters is putting this out there, that there is I think a new Disney series that is about A young girl who is promoting Satanism, and I don't remember all the details, in the movie that she's...
Part of.
That's going to be released by Disney.
I mean, in your face.
And this is Disney.
Okay, so Disney always tried to pretend to be on the light side.
Oh, of course.
They pretended.
Right.
I was just told there's an HBO Mundo, which is their Spanish-speaking HBO, that is actually promoting pedophilia.
So we'll see it.
I'm going to dig into that and see what's going on there.
The dark is out there in your face now.
But Kerry, don't you think that you could just be a matter of desperation also?
Because you have to pick a side now.
There's no neutral position left.
I believe you really have to pick a side.
Well, I think, again, I'm not so sure, you know, I personally, because of my background and, you know, working in sort of getting to know people that work above top secret for over 18 years, I tend to not think that the dark side does anything out of desperation.
I tend to think they do everything out of Calculation.
And I kind of wrote a few paragraphs about this in a recent article as well.
In other words, that they They are not naive, okay?
They never are.
And that they see these trends.
What they see is, and what they knew, was the movement.
See, they watched the river, they watched the flow, and usually they take it and they just steer it in their direction.
But they must also know that there has come a time And maybe because it's even written about in the Bible to some degree, this sort of apocalyptic vision of these times, and there is evidence of some of this is correct, to where they then had to make a plan for a time when things might turn against them for a time.
But again, they have the long view.
It's like the Chinese.
They see nothing in terms of a hundred years.
They see it all in terms of thousands, hundreds, even millions of years.
So they're, in essence, they're a race of beings.
So they're looking to the future for their race or their species, if you will, a certain genetic combination, and they're making plans.
And they're riding the waves as they come, knowing that certain things may actually be mounted against them during certain times.
Just as they're, at times, they're turned against the dark.
I mean the light.
So that where, you know, we have what we call maybe the Dark Ages.
I don't know if you could classify the Dark Ages really being as dark as that the name says, but You know where there was a lot of disease and pestilence and all this kind of thing.
So I think I think it's better not to be short-sighted for people right now.
I think there's a great desire to be short-sighted to think that oh, we're going to win and that's the end of it.
It's not the end of it.
First of all one has to also look at this sector and figure out is evil does evil play a role that the creator Wants it to play?
And the answer is probably yes.
That beings come here with a mission and a challenge to not just be of the light, but to fight for the light and to spread the light and perhaps do even more.
So, in other words, the challenges of this sector, you have to look at, you know, 3D going into 4D and the future of planet Earth and all of these kinds of things.
I think it's again, it's a long game and I realized that we have some things in our favor at this time, no doubt about it.
And if you want to say God's on our side, that's fine.
I think God's always on the side of life.
Okay, and what that word life means and light, but I'm not so sure you know that he's playing teams the way people want them to be played.
You know, this is not a football game.
Okay, and it's not over tomorrow.
So I just think in terms of a spiritual journey that this sector is a spiritual journey.
It's supposed to be challenging.
If you didn't have one negative thing, you would have a different negative thing, but it still be a negative thing because the negative pushes the light into blossoming and so on.
So this is how this sector has been constructed.
Now, whether or not we as a people move into another sector completely and don't have to contend With this constant polarity is another matter and you can get into a philosophical discussion about that.
There's reason to believe that's perhaps true as you move up into fifth and sixth dimension and so on and so forth.
Some people calling that ascension, whatever you want to call it.
But I think that we have to also realize what this sector is doing and what it's all about.
So this battle that we're fighting, I think even eons from now will be another battle for another set of, if it's humanity or even another species altogether on here on Earth, assuming Earth survives.
There's There are those sort of games at play and levels, right?
So your thoughts?
Yeah.
Well, I believe we're earning our stripes.
I really feel like that's what's going on.
I always quantify like this.
I do believe there is eternal life, but people can't have trouble and understandably grasping the concept of eternal life.
So let's say eternal life is 1 million years.
And let's say our life here is a hundred years.
I believe what we do here in this hundred years are earning our stripes what's to come in the next 999,900 years.
That's my opinion.
And I live my life by that, because it also makes me be the best I can be.
Even though I'm totally fallible, make mistakes all the time, it still drives me to be the best I can be.
I believe that is my belief system.
So, I do feel like God chooses sides, but He doesn't make the moves.
And this is very important to understand.
And this is why I say often, God won, but we the people control the timeline.
Because things are set up in a way that we can lose drastically or we can win drastically.
What does that look like to somebody?
Well, to me personally, losing would mean that the demons, the intergalactics, all negative entities, right, are taking over everything and it's just going to be hell on earth.
Some people want that actually.
That's not the game that I'm playing for.
I believe that the harder we do work here and we realize that the suppression in our minds are intentional and we work through that and we own it.
We own everything emotionally.
We got it.
Then the dark is completely exposed.
Where I absolutely agree with you is the growing evil is actually making the light grow faster and faster and faster.
Without the evil, there would be no motivation for the good to grow.
And that sounds very sad, but I think that's human nature.
They would become complacent.
Well, yeah.
I mean, it's called negative reinforcement.
In theory, I think you get into other sectors, other levels, and you might have a reversal of that.
So rather than negative reinforcement forcing growth, you may have positive reinforcement forcing growth.
Again, that would kind of flip the paradigm, but it doesn't change the fact of growth.
So the name of the game always being growth, expansion, even for God.
Okay, so-called God.
Real quick though, I believe you even said in the past that that's an AI's number one deal is expansion.
Isn't that right?
Yes.
Okay.
I mean, this is, you know, in other words, these are aspects of God.
So AI, as far as I'm concerned, is part of God's kingdom, part of God, just as Lucifer and, you know, the devil, whatever you want to call all of this, the dark, is also in his kingdom, in his purview, in his control.
So these things are not outside his control, they're in it.
So I think that, you know, looking at that from That point of view is the notion that, yes, we choose as individuals, but we're also part of a larger group that has come in incarnated together at a certain point to fight certain battles and take on certain missions and so on and so forth.
And you're either true to that or you're not.
You might have to repeat it or whatever you want to call it.
So.
I think that we are, again, all of humanity.
is moving on, and whether or not, for example, these are just things to think about, but whether we really take the Earth with us or not is another matter.
See, some people are really married to the idea that humans and Earth, you can't separate them.
They call her Gaia and so on and so forth.
I don't follow that point of view.
I appreciate that we have a very sacred relationship with Gaia, or the Earth, and that she's like, you know, like you would your ship in a sea, right?
So she is our ship.
So you have to have an incredible relationship with that vehicle, but in the end, you will travel on.
She will do whatever her trajectory is to do, because she is an entity as well.
And planets are entities.
They are conscious entities, actually.
A lot of ETs make a really big deal of Saturn in particular, interestingly enough.
Um, like the Saturn, there's, you know, I don't know if you've read this kind of literature, but it talks about, you know, them having these meetings, and the Saturn has to be at the meeting for them to have the meeting, because if Saturn isn't there, they don't get business done like they want to get it done.
You know, that kind of thing.
This is sort of an intergalactic idea.
Um, whether it, you know, there's basis and truth, you have to decide for yourself when you hear it, but This is the kind of thing that we're talking about.
We're talking about, I think, a race of beings or a species of human.
And again, humans and humanoids are related.
And we all go back to Lyra, at least in this galaxy.
And then where we go from there, I don't know beyond.
You can look into that.
What I'm saying here is that yes, there's, you know, it's like a graduating class, if you will.
So, there is a group and there are groups and some will stay behind and some will graduate and move along and so on and so forth.
So, I do see it like that.
You know, the words God wins don't have any meanings for me, because God is God, and therefore, just by nature of being God, God wins.
So it's kind of like a nonsensical statement that means nothing.
And that gets into other philosophies that I don't need to put out there.
Maybe we should make a transition now, Lewis, because, you know, we've been talking about this subject for a while.
Before I let you go, I'd like to zero in on a couple of closer to home things that have to do with, again, the next couple of months, because we see that there is a kind of prediction by at least many White Hats, including Juan.
And just recently Trump has announced that he thinks he's going to be arrested for the January 6th nonsense.
Which means, I thought he was already arrested, but maybe another step in that arrest?
I don't know what that could mean.
Well, the first arrest was on documents.
This one will be on J6.
Oh, all right.
So just a second arrest.
OK.
But the idea here being that there I'm just curious at your take on the next few months.
And I mean, specifically, you know, August from August on, because that's when Juan said he said actually the third week in August, if you really want to get specific recently, he said that's the beginning of when he thinks The most eye-opening actions will take place, I guess.
Yep.
Well, I have zero inside information and I don't do dates, but I do look at trends and markers.
And I actually thought last September, October, we would have a massive real estate crash.
I believe it's been held up inauthentically for sure.
And maybe it'll happen this September, October, because it's going in the same direction.
Unfortunately, I don't think the Great Awakening really happens until people lose everything.
And I believe that's the selfish nature, and for that big, huge transition, there has to be something.
Juan and I can debate on this.
I don't even know if it's a scare event, like a nuclear event or something like that.
I don't even think that'll do it.
People have a very selfish nature, and it's when they lose their money, and it looks like they're going to lose their home and lose their stuff, because that's what we've been conditioned.
To love, that's when the next step in the Great Awakening, in my opinion, that's when it'll be.
So over the next few months, just based on the trends, what I am seeing is, I am seeing, if you want to quantify them as patriots, are now fighting back.
The patriots are finally saying, okay, I'm done with this.
So another Trump arrest would just help push him over the edge, and this will push him A lot of people disagree with me.
I think we are in the midst of a civil war right now.
It's just not kinetic in the public purview, but it really feels like we are in the midst of a civil war, and even my wife and I have to maintain ourselves when we hear some Marxist views out there.
When we're just doing normal business, we had to take a deep breath And maybe have a conversation, but we just don't light them up, because that's where we feel like we need to.
And I think we're intentionally suppressing our emotions on that, so you can imagine how it is out there.
So, in the next few months, it is definitely coming to a head.
Now, but Kerry, it seems controlled to me.
And this is and I think it can be controlled on both sides actually that both sides are intentionally trying to push it to a breaking point.
So something happens because we've just been we the people have been accepting this stuff for way too long.
So yes, I would say.
And I would say the next few months are absolutely critical, and I think there's going to be something massive, massive that's going to happen.
It almost has to.
It's like a dam.
There's just so much water pressed against that dam.
It will break, in my opinion.
I think it's necessary, and I believe the outcome will be glorious.
That is my opinion.
But I do think it has to break first.
Okay now just one last question about this.
Do you see, I know it's you know hard to look out into the future at this point when you're even contemplating such an event as you're you're thinking about, do you think that the 2024 election will actually happen?
No, I haven't thought for a long time.
It just doesn't resonate with me that it will happen.
We'll see what happens.
I am working, and in fact, I have some phone calls to make where we're going to be working on election integrity, so on and so forth.
Because no matter what happens, the elections have to be run properly from a local micro level in order to fix the macro.
So I still am going to be boots on the ground doing my work.
I don't see there being a 2024 election.
We'll see.
I don't even think it may not even be necessary.
I think things are going to get so wonky before then that there probably won't be an election.
And again, that's just an opinion, reading the tea leaves a little bit.
Okay.
All right.
So we'll see what happens.
And I'm not sure one way or the other.
I know that we're still going to be working towards the 2024 election, I believe.
Come April of next year, 2024.
But then we have some anomalous events that are being predicted by certain of my witnesses, Richard Allen Miller being one.
Recently, he says he was told by the government the core stopped.
He says it's stopped twice, that that is prior to a reversal.
I have another witness who I don't want to say anything about him other than he knows Richard Allen Miller and he disagrees and says the government is lying to Richard Allen Miller.
So, and I, you know, I brought that to Richard and he basically sticks to his guns.
So, I know there are also others who seem to see something in 2025, but that would be after the election, not before.
So, there is also, just want to throw this out for people to consider, That recently we had a well it was I think categorized as a 7.2 earthquake in Alaska along the Alaska sort of I think it's the kind of like the arm of Alaska going out into the water there.
That is indicative of a deep state triggering possible triggering of what we call the Juan de Fuca fault.
If the Juan de Fuca fault, I have a extensive whistleblower testimony on this from one whistleblower in particular, which doesn't make him right, but has said multiple times that when that happens, it'll trigger a supervolcano, which is in Yellowstone.
And if that goes, then these other volcanoes, Mount Rainier and various ones are connected and we will have a major, you know, So whether or not that's actually an offing, I don't know, but I do know that this latest earthquake could have been the beginning of the dark side.
In other words, see if they can If you have a situation in which there's, you know, your kind of push come to shove and your back's against the wall and there's nowhere to go, then what they do is create chaos, more chaos, so that they can then pull order out of chaos in the way that they choose and so on.
So it's just worth contemplating, it's worth taking a look at, it's worth paying attention to the dark side moves In and among some of these more white hat planned moves, you know what I'm saying?
In other words, not either side is isolated from each other.
As you know, one side moves, the other side moves and so on.
So I think that's a very important drama to watch.
And sometimes the dark side moves and even the white hat moves are not obvious.
And even Placing ownership on those types of moves either, right?
So we're seeing Biden go down.
We're seeing the Chinese wash their hands of him and his cohorts because it's obviously a big, you know, group.
It's not it's not just one man and he of course is a puppet with many doubles.
So this is the kind of thing we're looking at.
We're looking at a very strange even Non-terrestrial, let's say that.
Let's not classify it necessarily as alien.
But what is happening on Earth does not seem even earthly.
It seems other than earthly.
It seems That even some of the orchestration is coming from off-world, in whatever form you want to give that, okay?
So, I think those are things that people also can't necessarily report on or even necessarily choose to talk about, but I think we all sense that.
Yeah, well...
It's definitely a lot bigger than any of us could possibly imagine, and we need to pay attention to all the moves.
I mean, I could even go as far as sometimes earthquakes actually relieve pressure from another pole, depending on which direction they go, and then sometimes they apply more pressure, and you can get something.
You know, I'd love to continue this conversation, but I have to prep for About my new show that's just coming up in 25 minutes, but of course, thank you, and this has been so fascinating.
Okay, well, I've enjoyed it, and thank you again for being on my show, Lewis, and thank you for inviting me to be at the TruthTour.net event.
That was a lot of fun.
A lot of people had a great time, I know, and so, you know, those are great efforts, and I assume you're going to continue that?
Yeah, well, we're having trouble booking places, which is not an accident, but we'll see what happens in the future.
But that's the goal.
OK, very good.
All right.
Thanks, everyone, for watching.
Take care.
Bye bye.
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