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June 3, 2023 - Project Camelot

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KAREN LUCYK MACDONALD

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	Thank you.
	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
	So I have Karen Lucic McDonald with me and it's great to have you here, Karen, and I just want to hear what you've been doing about your work and some of your background.
	So if you could start off with sharing sort of how you got into the work you're doing now and maybe a little background.
	Great, thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	I've always been a I'm a big fan of yours, and it's all about getting the truth out.
	I've got your book here, which I absolutely adore.
	Rebel Gene should be on everyone's coffee table here.
	So I really appreciate what you've been doing over the years, bringing that information to the general population, because that's what we're here about.
	And like you, that's what got me into learning a lot of this stuff.
	My background, I grew up I first started in Kamloops, actually, in the Schwetmak Territory, people know as British Columbia, which is very famous for the missing children that the Queen supposedly took on a royal picnic that did not come back.
	So, I was taken in 1964 to Saskatoon, so I was raised and went to the University of Saskatchewan, briefly, and then took my nursing there, became a neonatal nurse, yadda yadda, became a mom of two children, and their father was actually a Lawyer, Jesuit trained, I found out later.
	And part of these... Lawyer, Jesuit trained, I found out later.
	And so going to the Saskatoon, to the University of Saskatchewan, I was a neonatal nurse.
	I was over the Saskatchewan Union nurse.
	Then I became a mother of two children.
	And those children in the late 1990s started disclosing what you would call, like the Martensville case, child pedophilia.
	And that was my kick into all of this actually.
	This is what changed my entire life was their disclosures of what was happening.
	And so the Martensville case was really known as the satanic panic of what we would know the adrenochrome in the child pedophile rings.
	So most people do not know that about my background because no one's really ever asked.
	Oh, all right.
	That's what got me into this.
	And so going through the court systems, Family Law Division, and because their father, John Paul Klock, was a Jesuit-trained lawyer, manipulated a lot of the systems.
	We saw the cover-ups of what was going in against the children.
	The whole thing was corrupt.
	Didn't matter what you did.
	Okay, can I pause you right there?
	Because I want to understand, what is your link up again with the children of this case?
	These are not your children, are they?
	They're your children.
	Okay, very shocking.
	So can you maybe explain that a little more?
	I mean, in other words, was it their father or was it someone else in your family or how did that work?
	They disclosed that it was not only their father that was doing molestation.
	They were talking about cats being killed, little kittens being killed.
	Seeing sacrifices, other lawyers involved, they talked about almost like people being naked, orgies, that type of thing.
	I didn't know at the time there was another case going on called the Martinsville case that was run by an RCMP constable that later became, literally 10 years later, one of my best friends, Claudia Bryden.
	So there's stuff out on CBC about this which they tried to sweep under the rug.
	So what they did in here, this would be the precursor to what we know, Transformation of America and Kathy O'Brien, the whole MKUltra project, that type of thing.
	And because I found out later, you know, I am actually what's called the 13th Clan Mother.
	So I have a hereditary so-and-so begot so-and-so, but what they call the Church of the Firstborn.
	But it was the oldest female to the oldest female to the oldest female.
	We would call it the mitochondrial DNA.
	And this is actually what they're going after.
	It's not the RNA and just the DNA.
	It's the empty DNA.
	They want to make the clan and all women and men come from a clan or a tribe.
	They seem to forget this.
	This is not a native thing.
	So mine would be the Noah's, I'd say, Ark or Arcturian treaty.
	Just like the Pleiadian of Troy.
	Just like the Peace Pipe.
	Just like Solomon's Seal.
	There are lots of different treaties that were done galactically, and this is actually what the Galactic Council and the Andromeda Council was putting together, as we're all part of these starseeds.
	So they were actually targeting our children, so they didn't just slaughter in, you know, Epstein's Island.
	There's a lot of places that we're going at this.
	Go ahead.
	I want to hear this story.
	So Karen, could you just back up a tiny bit?
	You were talking about clans and trying to explain that.
	So you're in Canada, right?
	Are you Canadian?
	No, not technically.
	So I would use it.
	I'm bear clan, you know, with that type of thing.
	So the bloodline, my bloodline is AB positive.
	So it's one of the oldest mitochondrial blood types, terrarian.
	that we have and so that's basically what the clan mothers are and they are the leaders or the original rulers with the loyal title over Canada and the state so we're actually the unpaid babysitters that have actually land title just like the movie would be Jupiter Ascending so it's very much all in that movie very much just like Avatar they put it in there and they hide it so in here They were going after a lot of our children.
	It's not specific to anyone in there.
	So no, I wouldn't be a Canadian.
	I'm not a British Columbian.
	I'm not Kanata or from the tribe of Cane either.
	So our bloodlines are very well traceable and basically When I started standing in the courts for my children, and not just my children, I remember Claudia Bryden coming up, Constable Bryden saying, presenting me with a rose, and she said, this was given to me when I was testifying to protect the children from these rings.
	And she said, I think you're the bravest woman in Saskatchewan.
	And I said, I wouldn't go that far.
	But anyway, I'm just a mother that was trying to listen to what her children said, you know, that they were, you know, red in vaginas, gunshot at their head, lots of things, plus the other disclosures.
	So, In there they basically kept the children away as much as they could and even though I had joint custody I didn't see my children for close to 10 years.
	I was actually had my arm broken my wrist was broken by a sheriff in the provincial court because I refused to stand because I know all about treaty law and tribal law which supersedes any foreign or domestic common law or the maritime law and I said Are you aware I cannot submit to any man or any lawyer or court?
	And for that, they broke my arm.
	And for that, you know, so they put you into jail.
	They try and torture you.
	I had my quantum natural holistic health center bugged, surrounded, broken into just like Dr. Robert O. Young.
	And they tried to take us down, but, and if they can't come through us, they'll go through the children.
	That didn't work either.
	So because of that, what happened, I was taken by someone in the Canadian military that was a protector of a Stargate out in Hope, which is very important because that's where a lot of the takedown, just like what happened to you in Paradise, California, happened up here at Hope and Lytton.
	They leveled the town with direct energy weapons.
	And then they didn't know what to do, so they flooded it.
	So I actually did medical evac out of there because I was two hours away getting radiated.
	But just to backtrack a little bit, so with the children, I was taken to the Stargate.
	I was put in under the wings.
	I was, what do you want to say, briefed, I guess is a great word, disclosed to, that I was a clan mother.
	This went back, they call with your Tartan, a Tartarian.
	Pre-mud flood.
	So these treaties are galactic treaties that exist before the flood.
	And they are the law of the land and the women are the law of the land.
	And that's the beauty about it.
	It's the whole return back to that divine feminine or divine matriarchal system that included the men because they appointed the men that were worthy.
	And so that was called dragons or chieftains.
	So this has been going on and just so many people have forgotten who they are.
	They're like lost souls, you know, up for being scooped for a lot of these nefarious organizations.
	And it's easy enough to get caught into.
	So I've been at the child protection truth or thing for a long time.
	So I was trying to see what we could do and bring it to the attention of whoever I could.
	And that brought me into many things.
	So at that time I switched from being a allopathic nurse into being a quantum nurse.
	And learning everything, you know, breath, breathing, spring water.
	So I got to hang out with people that say like David Avocado Wolf and learning all about super herbs and having amazing connections.
	Dr. Len Horowitz, Dr. Gary Young, Dr. Robert Young, you know, doing things like life blood cell, you know, seeing what we could do to make this better for the children and for ourselves.
	So I always said if you couldn't fix this and I was gonna go find some land outside the jurisdiction of Canada, and get this thing shut off.
	What I did do that you might not be aware of, just like Pascal Najati is doing right now because he's a British Swiss citizen and a former air defense military for Switzerland that's been many jabbed, I'll just say.
	What happened is that we're in a different position so that's what I did actually in 2013.
	I went into Kamloops and what I did is um sorry about that I didn't have it shut off anyway um one of the things that um I did do is I said there's a crime I'm here to report a crime.
	So I went by myself with some witnesses and I went to the Kamloops British Columbia RCMP detachment and I spoke with a Staff Sergeant Mike Savage, which was a huge First Nations military non-commissioned officer to them.
	And he took it and he says, thank gosh, someone's finally going to do something.
	He says, Karen, my Indian name is Tatanka.
	And I said, oh, I said, you're like buffalo, like white buffalo woman, calf woman.
	I said, you're a buffalo.
	And he said, yes.
	And I said, that's okay.
	I'm a little savage.
	Because most people don't know that there are four classifications of people.
	Noble savages.
	And then you drop in.
	And that's if you're still an international.
	So they're assigned to us as nationals.
	So the Secret Space Program, or SSP, are not assigned to us as sovereigns.
	They're assigned to us as multinationals.
	So I still have international diplomatic status, basically.
	Which allowed me to go in and put an arrest warrant for Queen Elizabeth.
	So I figured, I gotta take her picture off everything.
	That's what I saw was the problem here.
	So, how do you get rid of a, you know, Draco Queen?
	You gotta go apply.
	Not at all, you go tell them.
	Because they had treaties that go back, actually on copper plates.
	Carrie, I don't know if you've ever seen them, but their copper plates are about this big, like Moses and the copper plates, or the, you know, Nephi or whoever it was.
	And I held those plates.
	So when I went to Calum's, I went first of all to my cousin's law office.
	And he's very famous right now, because we're having what's called a National Citizens Inquiry, coast to coast.
	It's including people from all over the world.
	So Captain Austa Fitz was just doing it, but my cousin is Sean Buckley.
	So he let his law office go, and he's now leading the inquiry there.
	And so they're getting everything as our response to what happened to the people, vaxxed or unvaxxed.
	And that's my background, is actually in quantum medicine, trying to do the reverse engineering and seeing what we can do for the spike.
	So I'll get into that.
	That's the whole thing I do with Genius Insight biofeedback with Ryan Williams.
	Okay, now just to pause you a little bit.
	So did you put, is that an arrest warrant for Queen Elizabeth, even though she's passed on?
	Mm hmm.
	I remember I did this in 2013.
	Yeah, I know.
	So, so you did do that then.
	It's awful.
	It's lawful.
	It was entered in.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then what happened as a result of that?
	Anything?
	Yes.
	This is where the power of the clan mothers come in.
	Remember, this is all their secret SSP stuff.
	They don't want people to know about.
	So what happened in, um, I started this in 2011, 2012, because that was technically the end of the agreement or the end of the timeframe.
	So it was entering into the time of peace, peacekeeping.
	And that's what I did.
	I broke or severed the contracts with them, the treaties.
	So a treaty is only authorized by clan mothers.
	This is not a legal contract that has something to do with Trump or anything like that.
	So in here what happened is that, whatchamacallit, we went into Kamloops and what happened is that I was put into contact with Sergeant Patty Bessard.
	And I met with Sergeant Patty Broussard who was from the U.S.
	Army that was part of the Secret Space Program.
	Right, and I wanted to have her on my show.
	Yeah, and also Sergeant Brad, Daniel Brad MacBowen III.
	Okay, and I actually interviewed him a long time ago.
	Yeah.
	Then it became James Rank.
	Then it became every super soldier I talked to.
	And then I was also a basis conference speaker with Miles Johnson.
	So I've done lots, probably about a dozen with Miles.
	I love Miles.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah.
	So, and then, you know, Revolution Radio got into trying to get it out.
	And then recently, in the last 10, 15 years, I've done a lot with Judge Alfred Weber, because he's actually a bona fide Washington, D.C. bar carrying lawyer.
	He's an active, but he still is that.
	So what I did a lot of there and you could go to newsinsideout.com and you'll see a couple dozen of my videos because I wanted it documented in front of someone that held a bar.
	I wanted it lawfully done.
	So when you said what was the result of that?
	Basically what happened is that I went into meeting with Patty.
	Patty was able to one ascertain there's a Stardisc And on my clan mother seal that goes back to 3130 BC, Patti was able to time travel it back through astrological constellation times and ascertain that I was actually had the gene imprint as well.
	I've been picked up in what you'll call gene imprinted to make sure the mitochondrial DNA is still intact.
	So they have a way of doing that.
	Patty said at that time that within 48 hours, because I also decided, well, I did it local in Kamloops, I better do it at the inner city of London too.
	So I wanted to cover that base.
	So I had a friend of mine, Lucas Monday Wing, and he was in Cambridge at the time.
	So I asked him to go on a little errand if he would do something for me and drop a piece of paper off with her general, Paul.
	So I sent it into the inner city of London at the same time.
	From that time they accepted it as a clan mother and we have all the acknowledgements of that and so what happened according to Patty is that basically they started bugging out and that the Queen Elizabeth then moved into basically I'll call a Queen's residence just north of basically Denver Colorado Airport over the base.
	I was there for about three years until Trump came in in 2060.
	Okay, now I'm going to stop you again.
	I missed that.
	I don't understand what you're saying.
	Are you saying you went to Denver or you said something that you said the Queen?
	Are you saying the Queen went to Denver?
	So you do understand.
	So what I did is I went to Kamloops myself.
	And then he sent Lucas to London, to the University of London, handed that paper into them as well.
	He handed it to Queen Elizabeth.
	Right.
	I also had her fax number at that point too, by the way, for Windsor.
	And then what happened, it was within 48 hours, they all flew, including her and her entourage.
	So basically, the Draco, they moved to Denver, Colorado, is what I was told.
	But okay, what was the date of this?
	Just curious.
	I think it was September 21st, probably 2013, somewhere in that range.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so I have the dates.
	They're actually on my Facebook.
	If anyone cares to look at those, I put them in and you can see them.
	Are you saying that she stayed there the whole time or she was going back and forth?
	I don't know because it's alleged I'm not a witness so this is just hearsay okay I'll put that straight out is that this is what Patty and other people in the forces had told me that she basically moved they had a residence and they actually had a it looked almost like a I'd say like a TR-3, kind of a landing pad.
	It was not the runway.
	It's north of it.
	There was a, it had a purple actually roof on it.
	It looked like a residence and obviously it was attached to the base.
	But what they did, they called it a slag.
	And so they basically took a direct energy weapon and they took out her flying mobile, whatever, you know.
	She has.
	And so that's actually documented.
	I did 50 some videos at Project Incension.
	Not A-Cension, but Incension.
	So I-N-C-E-N-S-I-O-N is on YouTube and a couple on Rumble.
	I am amazed they have not taken any of that down yet because what has happened Is it?
	We were filmed every week by Andrew Mallet.
	So there's, you know, Sergeant McBullins on there and there's like Bob Charles and my other show like, you know, Pyramid One Radio, that type of thing.
	So in there every week we filmed and so you could see live film footage because Patty could document not only the Klan lineage because a lot of these she called it from basically the Freedom Team so it wasn't just Iraq but what they called they were part of Tribal Earth Defense Force so it was another part of the Secret Space Force and she supposedly was a or he whatever Patty likes to think she's intergendered I don't have any proof of that
	Okay, so the army took Patty as a male and whether jacked up on hormone, that's a different matter.
	But at the time, Patty could open up or had access technology to basically NASA's space satellites and stuff in ISS.
	So there's many of them.
	So I got to over several years watch live feeds that were not the public feeds.
	So they would do this for surveillance.
	Over basis for child rescue so it would be part of I would consider in a bigger spectrum vets for child rescue So they were sometimes surveilling these bases in these areas for years on years before they could act on some of the rescues for the children And I was involved in a couple.
	I know you've got a great deal, but I actually want to go back to the children.
	So can you tell me what was the status at this point, or when you went to court with it, but what is their status and what happened to them?
	Basically what happened, I'd say, is a tragedy.
	The children were obviously separated by him, even though there was a, you can imagine, joint custody and never seeing your children.
	They tried to do, I tried to get a family law division, what's called a focus custody access report.
	Allison did disclose that she was being molested and touched by him.
	And they tried to block it out.
	So I got a FOIA, which is your Freedom of Information Act up here.
	And again, they blacked out a lot of stuff.
	But nonetheless, she did disclose it.
	It was in there.
	What I could see from the court system And I had used different lawyers over the time period, from Culinair, Greg Koos, and Jay Watson, and a bunch of them.
	I saw that there was corruption in there.
	One day I went into Family Law Division, and you could see all these children that were in there, and yet these lawyers seemed to be all the same lawyers that were running Focus Custody Access Reports.
	And there was another one called Jerry Farthing.
	He was connected to, again, the Jesuits.
	John was trained in something called Pope Pius X, which is, to me, basically your Jesuit MK Alter Training Center for your You know, assassins and everything else that they've got up here.
	He was also connected, I found out, to the Don Morgan who was the QC, like a Queen's Counsel here.
	And they were reporting in, you know, every day.
	So there was so much corruption going on that it didn't matter where I turned at.
	I went to the, you know, obviously being a nurse, when a child says that, you know, someone's touching your vagina, I took her in.
	They tried the Munchausen by proxy crap on me.
	I'm a nurse.
	I taught my children what a vagina is.
	We don't have wee-wees.
	We have penises, you know.
	So, anatomically, I'd never seen anything like this in my life, you know.
	I still can remember Allison sitting there in a fetal position for about 45 minutes, rocking almost kind of tonk.
	How old was she at this time?
	They were about three or four at the time, you know, very, very young.
	You know, this happened when I, you know, in May 1997 is when I started figuring out what was going on.
	I had found that they were using the law office as a front.
	I found that they were misappropriating trust accounts that were covered up.
	By the, um, you know, like, instead of your district attorneys up here, but, you know, the councils up here, crown attorneys, they all knew about it.
	I went to talk to the RCMP.
	They knew that they were moving drugs and cocaine and stuff in here.
	They knew this stuff.
	And I was so wide-eyed.
	I just, I couldn't fathom that this was going on.
	I had, as a nurse, you know, even in my training, I'd seen a few cases of, um, child abuse.
	You know, I've seen stuff like, you know, tobacco put up, you know, the rectum so they could get the weekend off.
	I mean, some horrendous stuff, but, you know, and some sodomization.
	But when your child talks about this, I went in there and I took her to, again, ambulatory care, your outpatients, and saw something.
	And other than she was reddened, you know, even the psychologist, Dr. Jerry Farthing, was another one that was involved.
	They were all connected through St.
	Thomas More, through the University of Saskatchewan, and as far as I could see, all connected into the Catholic Church, most of them.
	So there's no question.
	Okay, fast forward to you doing this sort of arrest warrant for the Queen.
	Then what happened after that?
	I mean, other than she went to Colorado or whatever, I don't know if that's related or just not related.
	Well, again, according to Patty and other people, it is.
	So I mean, those are the people.
	So they broke into my office, you know, they'd arrest me, I'd be in jail for a couple weeks, and then they drop the charges or, you know, things like that, or they stay drop, you know, basically, they would drop, you know, obstructive justice, because I wouldn't, you know, stand up for a judge, because I know the whole gamut, you know, it's ridiculous.
	And, um, A lot of these things you can tell, you know, these people are involved in homosexuality and everything else that, you know, we'd heard about in Saskatoon.
	So it's not like it was quiet.
	There was another woman at the time I met.
	Her name was Beth Gooby and she wrote a whole slew of books.
	I ran into her at a jazz festival.
	She started talking to me about the underground cities and the bases and the mud floods under Saskatoon and actually pointed out some of the actual entrances.
	So I was aware of what was going on in there.
	I also met with, um, Justin Trudeau's crew, when they came in, I told them they were not to be there, they just to leave.
	And he actually said there, in front of a couple hundred people, he was there to check his louche supply.
	Really?
	Like, in plain sight, I went, yeah, they said louche.
	They were there to check the louche security at the University of Saskatchewan.
	So again... Well, I mean, was he on drugs?
	I don't know what he's on.
	I don't even know if it was him.
	I'm just saying, you know, why would they expose themselves like that?
	They do.
	Yeah it did in front of a couple and you know like I said you know there's so much crap going on you know where do you start with this stuff but as you said to fast forward what it did is it brought me into because I couldn't see the children I tried everything if I went to drop off gifts or I became my own representative lawyer because you can't go into a court and You know, I have to go in there as an Ammius Curie.
	I have to go in there as a clan mother.
	And when I started exhorting that power and authority, that's when I started getting somewhere, right?
	Because when you hire a lawyer, you're deemed mentally incompetent.
	You know, in front of them.
	Which is true.
	If you can't speak for yourself, you know, what's the flip?
	But anyway, so it's true.
	You know, people are all getting these fines up here.
	I said, did you try calling, like, you know, the Crown prosecutor and said, you know, what would it be like to have it dropped and go meet with them?
	Like, you know, everyone wants to deflect it to a third party.
	They don't want to take accountability or responsibility.
	So I did.
	I called up, actually, the Crown Prosecutor, Dan Dahl, and I got myself out.
	And you'd think we were, you know, we were all going for, you know, playing golf or something.
	Because when I presented myself as a friend of the court, that I wasn't hostile, and that I wanted to do this in peace, according to the original piece, I don't know.
	That could be a several hundred year old Draco I'm looking at, or a shapeshifter.
	I mean, anything could be open right now.
	I mean, I've dealt with clones.
	I, you know, all sorts of stuff.
	Walk-ins.
	Most of my friends are walk-ins or hybrids.
	So.
	Okay, fair enough.
	But what I was wondering is whether or not do you have the ability to tell the difference?
	Can you tell when you're looking at somebody, you know, or not?
	You just know the principle of it, but you don't necessarily know yourself.
	You know, in retrospect, I mean, I was targeted.
	You know, there's no question for that, on that.
	But I'm more of an empath.
	Occasionally, I will be a little bit clairvoyant.
	I'll see a little bit of the energies and auras around.
	Thank gosh, I got a biofeedback now, so now I can really see the morals.
	But what happened is that I'm more of an empath, and I can feel it.
	And there's something that does not sit right.
	Just like, even now with the people that say injected, or with the nose one, either one, it doesn't matter, slept with someone, or had an animal that was in that environment, I deciduously bleed.
	I actually go into shock.
	My hair stand up, get the headache, and I literally go into labor, and I'll start vaginally bleeding near anyone.
	So I have to keep the car back.
	Yeah.
	No, but why?
	I mean, because they're injected, they're radioactive.
	And with the graph, if they're heavily graphenated, and radiating, it affects you, your, your, your vaginal bleeding, I actually will bleed.
	Yeah.
	And that Dr. Kristen Northrup and James Thorpe, I mean, we all are documenting up my cycle story.
	It's very common.
	Are you still of childbearing age at this time?
	Right now just finished.
	So I've been actually, you know, menopausal for a while.
	Right now it's very interesting.
	Yeah, we have a friend, friend of mine and myself have a friend who is having current he's a british he's having he unfortunately has a girlfriend that was vaxxed and it seems to be affecting him adversely and he's having some these kinds of episodes of various things happening to him and uh then all of a sudden
	My friend, they're both musicians, they had a session together and then all of a sudden my friend, being in contact with this guy who was in contact with this girl, right, started throwing up.
	All of a sudden he couldn't stop and it never happened before to him ever.
	It's horrendous when you've been around, because I'm frontline nursing as well.
	I see that, you know, all the time.
	I've got people with, you know, things sticking to their chest like cutlery, and I've got a friend of mine, the more I've been cleaning them out, like I've had one of my girls up here recently, she's doing similar to what I am.
	I've been mentoring her for about five months, and we got her system kicked in.
	She was similar to that, but with the transfusion went bad.
	And I'll tell you that she's now in full remission, but not only that, she's starting to bleed.
	She's in her 70s.
	And so a bunch of these people, once you kick-start the immune system, then they become responsive.
	So there is help, and that's why I don't, you know, let this go.
	What it did, if there's a silver lining to this, is that I learned everything about sexual abuse and ritual abuse.
	Everything I could about MK Alter, every project, every dream thing.
	So in the biofeedback, I made libraries, not only for ETs, Hybridization, but then it's the remedies that we need.
	And that's what I focus on because I do things like Yoni steams and vaginal steams and things most people never heard of that's part of the recovery process or how to use essential oils properly, how to get alkaline, because this all ties into those ancestral memories.
	And when we are bleeding, you know, like what you were saying with your friend, it doesn't have to be them.
	I have got something out there on what we call I can't use that word because it will trigger it but the first word like this and it's called Choice Canada and I did also a lot with Alfred at News Inside Out but with Pamela Richardson because I'm a big one on what's what you would call shedding we actually call contact contagious and then we'll go axonosis be
	But, like, I don't know if you've seen my work on this either, because I did a lot of work on the whole COVID thing and I did misses on all of that.
	Okay, so you might know that we have a black project witness from NASA, who said that what it does is actually jumps.
	Yes.
	And this is actually in keeping with the Michael Crichton book written 20 years ago.
	He's the author of movies like Jurassic Park and all these other ones.
	Anyway, he was a doctor, trained as a doctor, who decided to write novels.
	He wrote a novel called Prey and in it he described Nano and what Nano is capable of.
	And that was part of a sort of a mystery, a very sort of dark mystery.
	That's excellent, as a matter of fact.
	I don't think it's ever been made into a movie that I know of, but it should have been.
	But at any rate, they didn't want it out there.
	Now it would be so pertinent because back in those days, it seemed, you know, sci-fi.
	Now it just seems normal, like that's what we're experiencing.
	So when this NASA doctor told us this, that what the nano graphene oxide is actually doing, it's jumping from body to body.
	It's not shedding per se.
	And the other thing is that it also can Go, go on surfaces and everything else like that, right?
	Absolutely.
	So this is not something that you can block off, you know what I'm saying?
	So, so I'm interested.
	I just wanted to make sure you knew about that side of it, but go ahead.
	You know, I'd really encourage you.
	I've got a friend of mine up here.
	She's called Pamela Richardson, and she's at the Richardson Health Report on Substack.
	And she also did Several shows right now with Alfred and I. I brought her in because I want it again documented well and she's the only one and I tried to get her into the National Citizens Inquiry in there with Pascal and other people but they were just like getting flooded with people.
	and my cousin was running the inquiry, but we did get this stuff at least put in for evidence.
	Pamela's the only one I've ever seen that can put this, what I call, and she goes, and again, it doesn't matter even about the venomization.
	I knew about the venoms in there in 2005.
	This is not new to me.
	I've been doing biofeedback and radionics and scaler for a long time.
	So even that part of it, I can see where we can not see, because we're using like ultrasound, Basically, radionics is like a form of ultrasound.
	It should be another department of radiology if they knew what they were doing except in Russia and other places.
	But we can see where we're limited with the live blood cells.
	So that's why I was doing some projects with Dr. Robert Young because I would look at the blood And then we would do our therapies like scalar wave and then I'm making new water remedies because you cannot hook up a lot of these people.
	You're going to make them worse because there's a whole thing called stealth viruses and technology that no one's really talking about.
	So it's not just jumping.
	Carrie, it can go dormant and it can go Yeah, that's exactly right.
	It does go down.
	Yeah, it's by a whistleblower.
	Yeah, I was told that he actually the way he described it was because I don't know, you know.
	No, what, again, you know, in this area, so you may be very obvious to you, but maybe not my audience, which is when they did the lockdowns.
	Yeah, really doing besides other things, mind control, etc.
	They were actually forcing people to stay in one place.
	Because when you move around physically, you can actually wash this stuff out of our human bodies through osmosis.
	Okay.
	But, but if you stationary, Then it incubates in essence and then if you especially are special times when it will escalate and that has to do with our 98.6 body temperature.
	Yes.
	You go above that like athletes do.
	It kicks in, it starts to multiply, you know, like astronomically.
	So this is actually, yes, just to answer what you were saying there, it does go dormant.
	It can in essence appear not to be malignant or whatever you want to call that, okay, right?
	Absolutely.
	And Pam has been the only one that actually has had the most broad spectrum of anything we've seen.
	Basically, I was asked to be on there because we were another group, let's say, off, again, we'll just say Axiom V.
	Choice Canada.
	Okay, so they're in rumble.
	So I'm in the background of that, Freedom Lovers Canada, all sorts of different places, you know, Sasha Stone's, wherever I can get into a chat room, frontline nurses, wherever I can get the information dispensed.
	And I think that's the important bit.
	Pam's the only one that's ever been able to get the actual PowerPoint to show you how it sandwiches in even the carbon C60, stuff like this.
	All their nano stuffers silvers at 20,000 parts per million how they become an attractant and the pH has got a part of it the as you said the temperature even And how they did the vials and everything else.
	Like, I mean, this goes so huge into even the temperature or the type they did.
	In Saskatoon, we actually had a woman that was dead before she hit the floor.
	You don't know, because of the way the vials are in suspensions and the temperature, did you get, like, the whole entire, like, dosage at the bottom?
	Like, it's sediment into it?
	And they basically got five doses and wonder what it did.
	And because of the dormant thing there's also another probably uh man that would be great for you to interview is Tony Pantoloresco for AI and Technology.
	He's kind of like a Harold Katz Bala in the black goo and because he's been affected with um more gallons we'll say and he was did you know the bye-bye blue skies with Elena Freeland and stuff he's been at this a long time.
	He says Karen 5G was like five years ago.
	We're at 6, 7, 8.
	They're building 20G in Canada here.
	And it's true.
	I've been into lots of places to get safer and to go in and look at, let's say, where there's no cell phone service.
	And yet I know they must be running 6, 7, 8G because I am an empath.
	I can feel it.
	So, all my monitors, and of course I have Geiger counters here, I've got all sorts of things, EMF, Trifields, but I find I'm the best barometer.
	Like you, you know, I think, I so appreciate what you said and what you've always conveyed in here.
	And by the way, I don't know what it is, Carrie, when I read your book, I hear your voice.
	I do, because you have published it the way you talk, the way you think.
	Yeah, I tried to.
	And I've never ever seen that in a book.
	And I made a whole library about a lot of the information that, you know, I gleaned from you because it's so important.
	And what happened is that, you know, in this kind of stuff, we are getting so much information at people that's screwed up.
	And you cannot do this.
	All these people want to do these things like scalar waves and all sorts of cute little biofeedbacks and hook them up.
	And that's the wrong thing to do because you could be triggering them.
	Even these new terahertz things.
	I was just in a foot.
	I'm recovering and actually my friend came in.
	He's on oxygen outside.
	I told him wait for a couple hours.
	He still came anyway, but that's okay.
	He's 84 on oxygen.
	He's a victim of the this thing that went up there, which is the same five times.
	And now you put them into some of this technology, you can make it worse.
	And that's what I'm seeing.
	That's actually very possible.
	Yes, it is.
	And you know, one of the things that you were so right on saying, it's the meditation, you got to break, as you call the contract first, you got to start in that spiritual thing.
	You've got to be able to do breath work, you've got to be able to do the meditation, and then the food is so important.
	What you put in.
	I just did a whole thing on Insight Health Apps with Denise and Ryan Williams and that crew.
	Dr. Debbie Drake is another phenomenal doctor, multiply trained, multiply trained like myself.
	What you should do is send me a list of names and I'll contact you.
	Yeah, I would love to get this kind of information.
	I do enjoy meeting these people because they can augment.
	You never know when there's a little piece of information that comes through and then links up with a bunch of other unconnected dots.
	Yeah, I think that's great.
	Yeah, and you know, the meditation starts there.
	You've got to be able to break that agreement.
	Again, there's, you know, like I said, you've put into stuff that's got consciousness and it's an interface.
	It's an operating system.
	It's like a computer chip.
	And so you've got to be able to do that first, and there's so much in that power first, because we need to have that.
	It's like, I was going to say, instead of AA, and like, you know, Alcoholics Nominus, we should have a VA now for this.
	But the water technology, I think, is really going to be where we're at, because I can put them on my scale-away plates and technology and do replication and duplication technology.
	And that's where I think Ryan Williams would come in very handy.
	He was with the Army, had inner technology that took all our old $50,000, $30,000 old technologies and put them into a phone or an iPad because I can do the replication or anybody can at home right now and for a nominal cost.
	I'm not into people doing therapies for other people where you don't know or going into rooms that run scalar waves through all to say TVs.
	Some of these people because the scalar wave it runs on on also the energy of who created it.
	And see, people seem to forget that.
	So if you have people come.
	I had some issues with I had, you know, I had a person on on my channel that I interviewed several times.
	Yeah.
	And the thing that did come out glaringly is that they didn't factor themselves in.
	Yeah.
	And what happens is, that's all part of it.
	So I mean, some of these people are part of the, I'll just say the Knights of Malta, these women wear Jesuit robes, All sorts of stuff.
	And unless you do the background check, which I do, I'm really thorough and that's what I appreciate with you.
	One of the ones I'm just dealing with is a friend now.
	He's a former JAG Army and Navy and was part of the law team but went into this type of technology that's been affected.
	So like people like Pascal, that's where I'm focusing right now.
	Because we've got great places up here for what you call spike protect like getting the herbs and the oils but if you don't get the alkalinity into place or the steaming or You know, it's all for naught, and I think there's hope, you know, in here.
	There's so much technology that we can use this for, but if it's used inappropriately, like, unfortunately, people can't read a label, let alone what this technology does.
	And there are causing, you know, like a RegenBed, for example, right?
	You know, people take a picture of your bed, and it's like RegenBed 9.0, and they're charging hundreds of dollars for that.
	I think, yeah, obviously, there's a lot of misuse going on.
	Let them just do this or you know the idea like I don't want to get into a whole bunch of stuff but there are other technologies out there that you're paying two three hundred dollars a month for and I listen to them they're still talking about binary systems and we're not binary as you know we have multiple strands I teach people like salmiak or getting a certain mineral maybe get that third strand activated and see where you go then but Actually, I mean we are 12 and above actually.
	Exactly.
	And there's no reason to not to underestimate yourself in that regard.
	So what about What is it?
	He's... I'm trying to remember his name for some... Radionics.
	You know these machines?
	Royal Rife?
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	Raymond Royal Rife, yeah.
	So I've used those and I think they work.
	Although I do think the protocols are not necessarily correct.
	I know it's a really weird thing.
	I'll agree with you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you know, some people feel that... So you haven't worked with that at all?
	Yeah, this is actually what Ryan did.
	Like I said, I had...
	30,000.
	Okay.
	Here's the transmitter in the old days.
	There was my old $30,000 transmitter.
	These were called Skeozo Indigos.
	These were the pre-runners to all this Healy kind of stuff technology.
	So Ryan Williams actually developed a lot of that and was on the team.
	And then he's the one that took them all.
	He's done 33 technologies.
	On here.
	So this is way before, like, you know, I'll just say Tom Pelladino's and Healey's and all sorts of things.
	So the Rife actually, because we've come a long way and I don't need a $30,000 transmitter anymore, is that your phone will interface iPads or iTablets now.
	Really?
	So we actually, what he did is he developed a whole bunch of apps and the reason we went, it's hard to see, but the reason we went into different apps here, these are all biofeedback or rifer scalers, and some of them preload like Silphidgio, like just pick your program and you know, what do you want?
	Like do I need health?
	Do I need hormones?
	Do I need spike protapt?
	You would just hit play.
	And then what we can do is hook them up onto different bracelets now that are LED, PEMF, Scalar, and Bio-Oscillate.
	So I don't need to go into a room that's $150,000 beaming at me.
	You can put it right on a client for a couple hundred now.
	And I think this has been the biggest thing I've seen in 20 years is people scamming people.
	And it really burns my butt because they give it away for free or that Rife app, you can put it on your phone for about $150 now.
	So, but again, having said that, now that I've seen what it's doing with some of the people, like, it's similar to Morgellon and Lime.
	And what happened is I, for example, took ticks out of Saskatoon, out of my clients, and I put them on these plates and the re-infused them, kind of like a homeopathic, like you're kind of making a radionic.
	Basically elixir and then I can feed that back to the client without having to touch them or having them with any electrical Magnetics that may trigger it worse because you know my client actually clients.
	I don't have clients.
	I have friends anyway My friend that's actually sitting outside what happened is because he's been so graphinated through those five nose things will just say oh Is that he went into one of these foot microwave terahertz things now and the feet blew up.
	And so now I'm dealing with stuff like, you know, so they don't have to go in the hospital early.
	So I learned to do it like a quantum or a natural or holistic, basically emergency tree washing.
	And so that's part of the reason why I stay in a 16 foot camper, you know, and go from different area.
	As well so I can help out so like you know soon I'll be in the Okanagan at truehealthcanada.ca with Lorraine Andrews because she was impeccable in what we needed to do when we were doing the live blood cell because we have access to technology there and we can help people and right now that might be helpful for you is it's not so much the oxygen And this is what I'm seeing.
	It's the nitric oxide, which everyone's missing.
	So you can get just like litmus paper, like here, which I get all my clients to test.
	You can also get nitric oxide testers, and that's what people are missing.
	They need to home test.
	We don't need to be going to the system.
	We can do this all pretty well, I think, internally.
	And I'd like to see it done.
	But most of the stuff is not expensive.
	For like Dr. Robert Young said, what's a teaspoon of baking soda once or twice a day and some water with maple syrup?
	It's not expensive.
	It really isn't.
	And I've spent a lot of times on the reserves up here to, you know, attack a coop.
	That's what I want to ask you about nature because there's, you know, nature is very powerful in and of itself as a healer.
	So if you go into nature and, and, you know, people go barefoot in nature and understand.
	Yeah.
	Making contact with nature, uh, you know, so it's, It can't be just one thing.
	You have to actually, you know, it does have to be every, from every angle, right?
	I love the way that you approach it that way, because if we don't have that natural connection, you know, natural clothing, hemp, bamboo, linen, all those things have a frequency.
	Right now, I was always like, I don't want anything, like I didn't like any metals, you know, my walk, everything would hurt.
	But now, I'm finding even with things like Q-links or I'm using air purifiers.
	I don't know if you know about these.
	These are wearable.
	They're about $30-$40 and what they do is they actually clean the air but they're electrical magnetic so it's like a baby taser with ozone and so it's constantly blowing but if someone did have something and I touch something in the store Or something like that.
	It will help disengage that.
	It's an electrical magnetic field.
	So that's something the air purifiers on Amazon are very helpful because it's like if they come into my field, Carrie, I start vibrating and then I literally can feel it.
	It's like a full shocker experience.
	You get the headache, then down to here, and then to the point we're in shock that we're bleeding out.
	Okay, but you know that there is a way through, you know, through combination of meditation and visualization to actually, I mean, it's something you, you know, I wouldn't necessarily want to mess with it with you because you're a healer and so you're letting this stuff in so that you can heal it, right, and feel it and know about it.
	But for people that are not working on healing other people necessarily, you can put a shield around yourself and not have these things come in you know you can actually withstand it if but you have to sort of it's almost like it's self-programming so it's a meditational kind of thing to change your understanding of your relationship to other beings right absolutely Yeah, I agree.
	What you want to take in, to take in.
	What you don't want to take in, to learn how to release a lot of stuff.
	That's, you know, also, I mean, these kinds of things, I don't know, people, you know, beings, we all know this.
	Okay, it's all natural to us.
	These are not, they're things that are blocked or forgotten.
	They're not, it's not like they're not part of our world.
	Yeah no absolutely and I think that's part of it and you know part of the thing is when I got into this like with biofeedback it's not just about doing therapy I don't even have to do therapy that's what I like about some of this but let's say I just wanted to look at someone's aura and this is one of the things too is you could do through the voice and the picture just go into someone's aura and then see what's broken and maybe you need to you know get a little bit brighter or something you know this is the whole thing that's what the other reason they wanted us six feet apart
	Because you've got a bubble around you, right?
	And that's because, again, we can heal each other.
	Exactly.
	In England, they told people, one, not to dance, and two, not to have music.
	So it's important to know that dance is actually, see again, we're in motion.
	We are beings that are very stimulated by motion and it's a very soothing thing to also to our brain so it's actually important to be in motion and that's also why they don't want us to travel and and circulate among each other because we actually gain from our interactions in in real time in in real time in real space as well.
	Absolutely and I think you know that's the key thing you know is it those of us that I mean There's Nurturing.
	They did a movie about me.
	It was called The Future Shift, actually, by Susan Singh.
	And they did it out of Calgary.
	And David Wolff came to the premiere.
	They were doing the seed event up here.
	And so, you know, Deepak Chopra and a bunch of people, Jared Cellante and Gene Houston, a bunch of people were up here.
	And it was a really amazing time.
	You know, they chose to release that for me because I'd gone cashless for like eight years and off the grid.
	And I said, part of what people are missing is the connection here.
	That's why I'm here.
	I'm four blocks from one of the best glacier lakes there is.
	Dr. Moto's even tested.
	And I'm all about the water and heirloom seeds.
	Or with my background, it's like Anastasia, the Ringing Cedars of Russia.
	We're like the Russian White Bear sort of thing.
	I always laughed.
	I said, it's not Noah's Ark.
	It was the Arcturians and all the spaceships, you guys.
	You're not getting it.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Now, what I want to do, though, is, you know, because we're kind of covering a lot of ground here, is there anything specifically that you want to get out during this time, like a certain message to the people?
	So, you know, you have the platform here, and hopefully we'll have all kinds of people watching, so go ahead.
	Great, thanks.
	I think it's about just getting into the internal you, getting back into truth.
	I think, like you said Carrie, it's nature.
	Mother Nature heals.
	And if you can get into stuff like Spring Water or FindASpring.com, that's what I just taught at Insight Health Apps.
	You know, if you can go there onto YouTube or Rumble or Genius Biofeedback, you'll see I've been teaching for weeks.
	It's really about natural stuff.
	I'm an aromatherapist.
	I'm a herbologist, I'm into foraging, I'm into teaching hydroponics, into sunken greenhouses now because of the conditions.
	You know, for every action there's a reaction, you know, in here.
	And if you can put that bubble around you, like you said, through meditation, through prayer, and getting yourself reconnected, I think that's part of it.
	And that's what we're supposed to be doing as wisdom keepers, or knowledge keepers, as clan mothers, right?
	A lot of people don't realize we all come from that, you know, and I like talking about different things and I don't know if you've ever seen a Yoni chair set up, but I'm going to do that back down here.
	This is actually the chairs that we use.
	Let's put it here for a sec.
	Most people have never seen this.
	Women don't know how to heal themselves anymore.
	It's terrible.
	And these are actually like a hot plate or a little Pirates thing you're seeing there like they do smudging or you can get other kind of you know steamers and stuff like that But what happens is that you can buy the expensive ones, but as you saw I can do it very inexpensively Those are what women or men would sit on and that's when the best things for opening up energies Kundalini the chakras grounding earthing and using that water and and
	everything in there if i want to go high tech then yes i've got stuff like the genius biofeedback and all this kind of stuff and if they want to they can call me or if they want to look at insighthealthapps.com there's free things you can do and quite frankly when people don't know what we're talking about like when you said royal raymond life my clients usually fill it even from a distance so i still see people around the world
	and um happens is that you can make a difference because it's the same thing as doing ultrasound getting rid of kidney stones so i can think about it i can use the juniper i can get alkaline i can steam open the gridion but sometimes the sound and like you said the dancing and the sound that's why i went into not having someone else do it i've I do my own.
	I'm talking to myself, and I'm giving myself the command.
	I've also got things in here to take down the Spike ProTech, like you said, or the, uh, the cell lines.
	You know, the, whatever.
	It's your, you're the commander here, not someone else.
	And that's why I don't like people interfering with my energy fields, if that makes sense.
	Right.
	Well, I, okay, there's two things that come to mind from what you just said.
	One is that I have been in contact with people that are very into meditation, but they don't appreciate that you need to sit, you know, in the, in the right, you know, with your base chakra in contact with earth, in essence, if you're really trying to, you know, do something.
	And you can go to power places, you know, vortexes, portals, and where there are sacred stones and all of this.
	And you can actually, you know, jumpstart your entire immune system, right, by going to these places.
	And some of us are, as Earth-sensitives, I guess you probably know this process, We're sent around to different places in the world and we're actually meant to connect our chakras and to help clean those areas and clear them.
	And then, you know, we go from one place to another and the process, like, I'll just give an example because I've been traveling lately and all of a sudden I'll get the sort of message I need to travel, right?
	It's kind of weird.
	But anyway, I went to Kauai and then first I went to Egypt, then I went to Kauai.
	And now I'm in Sedona.
	You see how I'm making a triangle?
	Yeah, I'm watching that.
	It's not a conscious, you know, thing.
	I didn't plan it that way.
	It just happened that way because I'm following my instincts in this regard.
	But there's something with that where all of us, there are groups all over the earth that do this kind of thing.
	We journey And we connect these places by going to them physically and connecting them through our own system.
	So that's one thing.
	The other thing that you were talking about was, God, I think I might have forgotten now, but it has to do with the last thing you were talking about.
	What was that last thing that you were referring to?
	Do you remember?
	The steaming?
	Are you talking about that?
	The earthing?
	No, I'm not sure.
	Well, whatever.
	But the point being is that if you... The First Nations?
	Yeah, but no, it wasn't something specific.
	But anyway, I can't quite bring it in.
	But at any rate, I think what you're talking about is so crucial for people to begin to understand and connect and also realize that If you're connecting with nature and with people and with, you know, crystals, you know, because you can do a lot of healing with crystals.
	I assume you use crystals.
	Yeah.
	Oh, they're all in there.
	Yeah.
	There's crystal energy all in here too.
	These are vortex plates that create, once they plug into our genius, they create an energy crystal vortex grid.
	So I can actually accentuate crystals and then also help assist with the grid because there's an earth grid star up here.
	And I was one of the keepers of all the sacred crystals.
	People don't know, but there's um... See, this was initially called Not the Turtle Island.
	Those are all things that have been bastardized and stuff like that, or native for Canada and stuff.
	It was actually called the America's Empire.
	So there's something that Patty and I did at Project Incention to do with genetics, like who are we, the Rh positive, the Rh negative, how the hybridization came in.
	Patty actually cracked into the Human Genome Project.
	That's a whole specialty in itself, and what it was doing with CERN, or why it was in Saskatoon, by the way.
	Do you want to know?
	It's the second largest medicine wheel on the entire continent.
	Want to skate one?
	So the second largest medicine wheel apiece.
	I was holding that just north of Saskatoon by the University of Saskatchewan that they corrupted.
	So those ley lines that you're talking about are so, so important.
	And what we'll see now is these calamities, as people think, are not necessarily so.
	The silver lining is they're going to have to open up the dams Queen Elizabeth put in since the 50s that has blocked the acupuncture, the meridians, and chakras of this entire planet.
	And so things like that, some of these things are going to be healing, not just for earth, but also for us.
	So I do now, I remember what I was going to tell you was, um, or talk about was this idea that you, what I have found.
	So nano, nano graphing oxide and all the nano is, um, it's, it's like has consciousness as Maday demonstrated.
	Right.
	So the fact is that we can communicate with it.
	It's a two-way street.
	So, if you decide that you've got too much nano in your body and you don't want it to be destructive, you can actually communicate that with the nano.
	The nano is not necessarily against us, if you will, if you understand.
	It can actually be sent in a different direction to be positive and to To actually either go dormant or to exit your system, whatever you decide to tell it.
	So, it's very important.
	It is a conductor, so it conducts the AI through the nano.
	That's where the linkage comes and having a lot to do with the 5G and the various frequencies, okay?
	Those can also stimulate it.
	But it's very important to realize that a lot of people don't realize that we have our own transmitter, which is our brain and our heart, that combination.
	And so that we can actually send directions into not only ourselves, but to the environment around us.
	And also, I know this is like, you probably resonate with this, but you know, that means Physical things in our environment, like a table or chair or an engine in your car, right?
	If it's acting up, you can actually communicate with it and tell it it's okay and not have negative thoughts towards it and that kind of thing.
	Absolutely.
	All of that stuff.
	In other words, it's a feedback loop that we have with everything around us.
	It's not one thing or another, it's everything.
	Exactly.
	I was just teaching that.
	I was on a show.
	I was asked.
	I just came in.
	They said, would you teach?
	I talked about water with Denise at this Insight thing.
	I said, you don't realize it's a cybernetic, what we call a biofeedback loop.
	Everything's in connection.
	And that's why using the water for programming is a really great secondary for doing that because you're programming it yourself.
	I said, even when you're going to prey on it or you put the crystals in, that's another medium.
	But this is something that is Not toxic, there's not going to be any side effects, and that's why I said, you know, photonic world, or the living water, which is spring water, is so, so important.
	Whether I steam it up, like I showed you, do yoni pearls, or putting that herb into the vagina, or making sapote, whatever it might be, it's the prayers you talked about, it's coming back, and the nanotechnology, or AI, I've been dealing with AI since 2005 in the biofeedback industry, in radionics, and is it really Artificial or is it an artifact?
	And there are things, as you said, and we know through the Secret Space Program, right?
	You can actually put your hand on something and it's run by the mitochondrial or the DNA.
	You can interface with it mentally, just like Captain Mark Richard said.
	And people can go in and out of body and I have lots of people, lots of friends, that are very gifted.
	I always call them, and friends, I'll just say gatekeepers, and that look after things here.
	And you guys have amazingly marvelous gifts.
	And, you know, you guys are also put into position.
	You're guided.
	You have that thing.
	I've got lots of friends that are galactics.
	I spend actually more time with galactics than I do, you know, with terrariums, I'll say.
	But on here, this is... That includes plants, by the way.
	Don't forget the healing abilities of plants, because plants actually work with us totally.
	And that you can, you know, you can, if you're in an electronic environment, like right now we are, then the last thing you do is go out and you just, you can get rid of the, the electronic smog, right?
	And the plant will take it in and, and, and, and go through, you know, its system and then put it out as oxygen, you know.
	Well, one of the things too, I think that's important.
	That was one of the things actually that was, I've had stuff time traveled to me.
	Recently and I've been in contact with galactics and commanders off planet.
	They'll come in and Talk with me, but one of the things they said to was what you know about having the food having underground keeping everything indoors So the outdoor garden thing because of what's going to be coming in I know a lot of stuff that's not been disclosed to the public unfortunately that is being released in the aerosol and That we need to grow indoors and part of that will be also radiation.
	There are like 10 or 15 plants that just help clean the air but you're bringing that indoors and I think that was one of the biggest things.
	I love, I keep my oils up here by the way.
	I'm a big into oils and aromatherapy because Gary Young taught me fire walking and all sorts of stuff.
	But the oils raise the frequency.
	So even the plants are only about 25, 30 Hertz where you can start getting rose oil.
	That's at 320 Hertz.
	But if I want to get up higher because my brain's got to function, is it's the trees.
	So the frankincense, the myrrh, the cedarwood, the pine.
	That's why the pine needle tea or, I mean, for crap's sakes, I mean, this thing with snake venom, like here, go have another drug.
	Here, have ivermectin.
	It's all drug induced.
	Have a nicotine patch.
	It's not holistic, you know, but the oils and, you know, we can get pine essential oil or one drop of peppermint.
	It's like 26 cups of peppermint tea.
	And my gosh, it's so cost effective.
	But even for here, do we have to go out and buy yoni herbs on there?
	No, I can go out and get foraging.
	I've got pine here.
	I've got spruce tips.
	I just love you've got shaga mushrooms.
	Everything's in nature.
	It doesn't even have to cost anything.
	That's the best part is people are forgetting that and You know, I like bringing that back, but even in here, and I'd like to offer you a gift.
	This will be off camera and you can decide what to do with it later, but I'd love to do Sierra's session for you because I have a gift and I would just like to spend some extra time with you off camera, if we may, and do that.
	And, um, as I know you, you're incredibly empathic and you, you and I have like bullshit meters.
	That's why I left a lot of this.
	That's why I left the stuff with Patty and other people.
	I've gone my own and I said I'd rather be by my own and just a few friends.
	I don't need to be doing this but what we're developing for some of these technologies for Spike is helpful to other people and if we can do it ourselves or do it very inexpensively for next to nothing I keep my oils in Banff because of the Crystal Mountains, like you talked about, because everything coming over the border here is radiated, so I want everything local, or we have combinations at Real Raw Food in Naramata or Lorraine doing stuff, you know.
	Okay, but I do want to say this one thing, which is kind of interesting about that, which is that To some degree, this idea of radiation destroying us is a fallacy.
	I agree.
	There was a guy, a scientist, who actually filled a pool at his house with radiation and used to swim in it every day to prove that the scientists were lying to us about how we're affected by radiation.
	So a lot of these things are You might call them memes, but they're like packets of stuff that's all twisted together and that gets into the whole cancer thing and there's a mind control packet all around the word radiation and what we think is radiation, but radiation is actually light and there's no reason why our frequency
	can't match it align with whatever the radiation is coming and and have and have a smooth kind of um relationship we don't have to be destroyed by it but a lot of but it's been put into our our world since like the 1930s or before right that's poisonous that is terrible that it kills you that it does all this stuff so i just want to say that it's time we start
	Rethinking these words that are packets of mind control, in essence, that even if you buy into it just a little bit, it can be destructive just as well as it could be creative, right?
	That brings me, because we always talk about things being radiated over the border.
	So in Neve Essence, I created a couple blends with Tony.
	They're not on his Neve Essence site, but it's called Radiate and Renew.
	And the doctor, I did because I didn't want to freak him out, but you want to radiate.
	You want to be radiating or to be vibrant.
	And you mentioned about that, but there's another intelligent being is Marcus Rothkranz and Kara Brotman.
	They're into superfoods, but most people don't know that he was, and just Google this, Marcus Rothkranz radiation.
	What he did is he used the secret.
	They picked him up like James Caspar or Max Myers, but they picked him up and took him to the underground sort of areas there because he's out by Vegas.
	And so what he did, he showed, he says, I'm in the worst areas ever.
	And a lot of it's food and how you think about the radiation.
	But further, just to add to what you did, is Stuart Swedlow.
	When I was studying some of that, there was a couple called the Aradia couple, and they were in.
	I interviewed them.
	Yeah!
	So once you start doing that, and that's what Marcus did, and he's got them on YouTube, but he interviewed several people through, and again, that's my gene pool.
	They used herbs, they used shaga, you can use cacao, higher frequencies, and that's why higher than just pine needle tea is pine essential oil.
	So if you're using essential oils internally, externally, or I take them in veggie caps or a steamer now.
	You know, you're gonna be radiating like that too, and it was interesting because one of the time-traveled information to me, I'll share that with you off-camera, I'm not ready to go public with that yet, but it was given to me and some of the different things, they called the mudra, they gave me a whole bunch of things called, and it was in the pre-flood language, it was like a Nocturian but before Cyrillic language, Some was in pictures, like hieroglyphics to me, and some was in a language which we had a hard time decoding, but it was my mother's tongue.
	It's very much like Russian, like a pre-flood Russian language.
	And one of the things they called, they said mudra, and the mudra or the doctor was, when you translate it over, it's the doctor of radiation, the doctor of energy.
	We should be radiating and it's just another frequency.
	Yeah, so I mean this is not, it's the way people are thinking about all of this stuff and that includes, by the way, and I'll just take this opportunity to say this because you're probably aware of this as well, which is, it's earth changes.
	I'm not talking about man-made global warming or man-made earth changes, okay?
	I'm talking about The earth going through certain changes because her chakras are changing and she's going through changes as we are going through changes so There is going to be some changes on our planet that will affect us, but this is not something to run away from, okay?
	This is actually something to tune into and get into the right space with.
	So, I just think we need to change the way we think about things as being, you know, because everything is fear-driven.
	They want you to think it's a fearful thing as opposed to maybe it's a good thing, okay?
	We could be embracing a lot of this stuff, and that's why I went into biofeedback, because I'm not having a doctor look after me, a naturopath, a chiropractor, even though I could go through all these programs, right, that we have, and we took those incredible things and made it onto a phone compatibility thing, right?
	It's that I was just looking at myself, no different than stepping on a scale.
	It's just information technology, and it's how people use it.
	And there are a lot of people that use it nefariously for their own capital and profit gain, but it doesn't have to be that way.
	You know, I like what you were saying about that because you're programming it.
	So I do an entire thing in affirmation and when I got into reverse speech or learning these words and they were speaking to me, it's not English.
	And that was the one thing I learned right away, especially when I was doing with some of the, some of the aboriginals that were taken and scooped up here, you know, in the forties, fifties, sixties, whatever, still going up.
	I mean, which school isn't being, you know, Mentored and groomed right now.
	It's disgusting what they're doing with the children.
	That's a whole other thing I could get into but what happens is the affirmations I did I started using it in the original mother's tongues And that's what defines us is that we have a riddle customs usages and laws and the artifacts and so people could look up I'm dealing with Tim Phillips right now and Patty had a lot of artifacts in there, but something that was called tribal laws.
	Mr. Meredith Quinn and And I really encourage people to know their blood type because this is a bloodline thing that they're doing for termination.
	Sure.
	And they can get Eldon cards.
	I think it's important for people, even how you assimilate things.
	And bring things in, you know, it's a little different.
	And I just really want to thank you.
	I've really enjoyed this.
	I've been looking forward to it for so long.
	Yeah, I know.
	I kept trying to get you scheduled and you'd be there one minute and then you were gone.
	And I didn't know, you know, how to communicate with you, but yeah, you know, I really, I want to thank, you know, it was something that, you know, I'm going to go back to Saskatoon in the middle of the prairies, you know, and, A lot of my friends now have taken that rain or that mantle on now.
	And so they invited me to this, you know, the blue room and this and that.
	We'd like you to come in.
	So I'm going to, you know, it's like going back on tour.
	But, you know, those are one of the things I really encourage people to do.
	You don't know where this is going to blossom.
	And it's the energy.
	And it's all in the way you look at life.
	You know, one of the first things I always say in a shamanic thing is like, when was the last time you sang?
	When was the last time you danced?
	When was the last time you went out and had fun?
	And you know, that's what we should be doing.
	And Gary Young said something to me.
	He said, you know, for every minute, you know, that you're upset or in fear, or they got you, or my, my grandfather, my, my Gita said that in Baba.
	He says they can do anything they want to, Karen, but they can't take away your knowledge.
	Go out there and have fun, and for every minute that you're in fear, you could be having a great time with something else, and don't let anyone affect you.
	And I think that's the biggest thing I'd like to instill to me or instill to my children because they've been so affected by this, and a lot of other children have.
	We see what's going on with the umbrella corporations, the ACIOs, and we can get into that.
	I mean, I've been down that, I would say, a tree to come rabbit hole for so long, it's disgusting.
	But right now, like you said, we got to come up on the other thing.
	And what gets me up in the morning, you know, what gets me excited?
	And I want to thank you for your deep insights, your understanding, your due diligence in researching stuff and bringing it to people.
	And, you know, I actually can feel this.
	I don't have to always read.
	I can feel it.
	I was like, I should just sleepwalk.
	But it's something that's so important, you know, the disclosure game and all this, and we can get into all that stuff.
	You know, I just want to let's have you back and, you know, talk on a certain topic.
	We'll do that and and delve in further.
	Okay.
	So let's do this kind of like short and sweet as short and sweet as it is already.
	Yeah, but I yeah, I do.
	There's one last thing, you know, every once in a while we see people in masks still to this day, which is just insane, right?
	Yeah, it is.
	It just kills me when I see that, you know, I listen, I try to think about how are they thinking about the world and They basically, we were just talking, I was talking with a friend saying, you know, I figure they have two points of view.
	It could be one or the other.
	They either think they have a disease or something's wrong with them, so they cover their mouth, or two, they think there's something wrong with the whole world and they're the only healthy one.
	So it's just, you know, when it boggles the mind.
	But what I want to say about that is that one thing that was really crucial during the whole Nonsense that went on for the last few years is trying to stop people from hugging each other, right?
	And connecting with each other where they're, whether it be face to face or through dance or through crowd groups and, and, and grouping.
	And so I just think that is so important that people preserve that among us, you know, preserve our connections because that's really what's going to get us through the future.
	I totally agree with that.
	There is just one little thing on that is, like I said, with Pam Richardson, how we've been able to show, like to me, this whole focus has been about the remedies for the contagious contact axonosis fear, whatever, what it's technically called, because we are seeing that.
	You know, like I said, it's not a figment of my imagination or whatever they want to think.
	There's too many of us that are having this reaction.
	And it is very real.
	There is bio-warfare.
	I've seen the umbrella vehicles up here.
	I've seen the operations going on where they're converging into stuff.
	All sorts of things.
	And I was the whistleblower, like I said, for the one that happened in BC.
	You know, it was very real how we were burnt.
	You know, I was sitting there turning red, like a nice and flush from that electrical magnetic.
	So, um, there are certain things that do have to be looked at.
	I can think about it or give it energetically, but like potassium, I did like, there's so many things that we could do naturally, like with the plants that are not expensive, you know, and like you said, just go out and forge, but I just want to thank you for this opportunity to gain.
	And if anyone wants to get ahold of me, I've got, um, a couple, Facebook's.
	One is Karen Anne McDonald.
	The other one's K-A for Karen Anne.
	LUCYK.
	L-U-C-Y-K.
	I'm on Telegram like you.
	Miiwi.
	LinkedIn.
	Signal.
	Align and what else is on here but also if they want to get a hold of me I have two emails because I know a lot of people use they want sessions or they just want to talk or want some counseling or because I'm really well tapped in I may have a someone that can help you or you know a supplier or something I don't know like real raw food or something up here but that's clan mother klan mother 13 at gmail so clan mother 13 at gmail and the other one is
	K-A-L-M.
	I'm going to be the calm before the storm.
	Calm 13 at ProtonMail.
	So those are a couple different ways to get a hold of me and if you do leave some comments here or on Carrie's Rumble and stuff like that and other channels I will be watching them for the next couple weeks and I will be doing that because a lot of people want to know what she did talk about that air purifier or I want to know where this is or if there's something I can do you know at least that's might be just the information that you know makes a difference who knows.
	Great, well you can also send me all of your contact information that you want out there and I'll put it on your page because every interview I do has a page on my website.
	Okay.
	We can put links there, we can put anything you want on there, so just keep that in mind and we'll put that out there for you.
	Great, I hope you have an awesome day.
	Thank you for your assistance in the background.
	We're trying to get you when it's audio going.
	It's so great to have backup in there and yeah, just enjoy this and I look forward to the summer and maybe as you're doing all your grid things in Sedona and I loved your Egypt thing.
	Maybe I should invite you up to one of our lakes up here.
	You guys could come for a little vacation.
	Sounds lovely.
	Throw in some oils or something and do some massage or something.
	But yeah, no, that'd be great.
	If you guys do get the opportunity to come up, we've got beautiful lands up here.
	And that's part of the reason I am up here is this is the water.
	And, um, you know, we're protecting that really hard.
	And you saw what happened in Ohio has happened all through here.
	It's, it's gotten through here and I'm dealing with that, you know, and I really encourage people.
	Dr. Robert Morse is an incredible natural path, very shamanic, very spiritual, but also Dr. Robert Young.
	And, um, I cannot thank him enough for what we've been doing in the background of helping people and getting this information out.
	You know, it's, it's so critical because it's affecting us up here.
	There's no borders to this.
	And I'm glad that, you know, we called in people with galactic help to help us at this time.
	So I did put an SOS up.
	So when I went after that stuff, I asked for assistance and I got a call from, we'll just say the Q command.
	So they have permission to go clean up however they want.
	Yeah.
	Great.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much for being here.
	OK, Karen, it's great.
	Great to meet you and finally connect with you.
	And let's do this again, OK?
	Anytime.
	And let's get together after.
	I'd really like to have some tea.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Thanks for watching, everyone.

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