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April 23, 2023 - Project Camelot

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KERRY INTERVIEWED BY TRUTHSTREAM: UNGUARDED TRUTH

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	Thank you.
	Cool.
	Cool. Cool.
	And you're also kind of a great white.
	What?
	A great white shark!
	You don't seem to tolerate bullshit at all.
	I like that.
	You tell them how it is.
	That's what we're about.
	That's what we like to do.
	Okay.
	Well, let's kick this thing off.
	Why not?
	We're already both recording, but we'll start at, you know, the official.
	Perfect.
	We've already started recording, so I'm not going to miss out on that.
	Well, she mentioned it, but I was curiously trying to write it down.
	No, I got it.
	Okay, anyway.
	Alright, ready?
	Here we go.
	Welcome to Truthstream.
	Today, we are here with Carrie Cassidy.
	She is known as the queen of the whistleblowers to many of us.
	We're very excited to have her.
	And without further ado, Carrie, welcome to Truthstream.
	We're honored to have you on our show.
	Thank you.
	Happy to be here.
	Awesome.
	Well, we're going to go into a plethora of topics, everything ranging from AI, some possible Donald Marshall topics.
	So, but, you know, Scott's been in this movement a bit longer than I have as far as like digging deep.
	So I'm going to turn it over to this smiling little person over here.
	I'm excited.
	I'm very excited.
	So you go ahead.
	Kerry, lots of questions for you.
	But, you know, you recently returned from Egypt, I believe.
	And I know you know a great deal about Egypt, so I think a really good place to start off might be, you know, the whole situation with Aleister Crowley and his girlfriend at the time, Rose, channeling the Book of the Law while spending the evening in the King's Chamber, something that isn't done anymore.
	What can you tell me about what happened there with Aleister Crowley?
	Well, I don't know what happened.
	I know I've read the Book of the Law.
	I've read quite a bit of Crowley when I was fairly young.
	I sort of stumbled on him and some occult literature that was actually in my parents' house.
	These books that were sort of hidden behind a door in a small bookcase.
	And I don't know why, but I do know why, but you know what I'm saying?
	Some of the books were called Alchemy and this and that.
	And so I think I might have heard his name first there, but there were other places where I heard it as well.
	And when I grew up, I ended up working at Jet Propulsion Lab, JPL, which is Jack Parson's lab.
	And I was very, yeah, I studied that.
	I studied the occult because I wanted to understand I guess you might say the nature of evil and satanism and all of that in our world.
	So I don't know.
	I just like I knew enough to want to do that.
	So I did.
	And so in terms of the Book of the Law, you know what I found out in my studies, okay, in terms of the writings of Crowley that he's he was a very brilliant man and that he He actually was not all bad, strangely.
	So I'm sure there's many stories out there of negative stuff and satanic stuff going on there.
	He wanted to be known as a very negative person.
	He wanted, he actually thought that was funny.
	And I think Jack Parsons was more level-headed.
	I think L. Ron Hubbard was more diabolical, if you really want my real opinion.
	But it was a pose, as far as I'm concerned.
	And I think Jack Parsons was more level-headed.
	I think L. Ron Hubbard was more diabolical, if you really want my real opinion.
	And L. Ron Hubbard was associated with, I guess, Navy intelligence, corporations.
	Crowley and Parsons, I'm not so sure about Parsons, whether he was really associated with an intelligence agency or not.
	He was in aerospace.
	He was a rocket scientist.
	That was his link up.
	But Crowley, and Crowley was actually his mentor, more than anyone else, I would say.
	And he was the younger man, Parsons, of course, at the time.
	And a very beautiful young man, I must say.
	So, just saying, you know, for what it's worth.
	Crowley being kind of, you know, a big, jovial-looking kind of jokester kind of person.
	Now, how much they were Satanists, I don't know, because at the time when I read the literature, God, I was pretty young, so I didn't necessarily... I knew there was dark stuff there, but I wasn't there for that, so I didn't go in that direction, if you can understand.
	I didn't go memorize spells and try to put spells on people or things like that.
	What I was interested in studying was the philosophy behind him and what he was trying to say.
	In his literature, and he said some really brilliant, wonderful things actually about spiritual seeking that I think.
	You know, should be more famous than they are and the book of the law was 1 of those things where.
	It's kind of, you know, taking your own, you know, it talks about the will, and the importance of the will, and doing what you will, and all this.
	So, being a magician, or being a witch, or being a warlock, or all these different things, I don't see, I don't come from a Christian background, per se.
	I mean, I do, but we didn't have a Bible in the house, for example.
	My father wouldn't go to church.
	My mother decided to take us to church, uh, when we were, um, and she was kind of like into psychology.
	She graduated from Stanford with a degree in psychology.
	So she was more into analyzing the world from that point of view.
	So I know this is a long winded answer and you can ask me direct questions about Crowley or whatever, but I just want to lay the groundwork here so that people understand where I'm coming from with my answers.
	And so I also studied the Crowley-Tarot in depth, and really, I got into it when I was, again, I was quite young.
	I was in my early 20s, and the books themselves, I think I came across them even earlier, like when I was even younger.
	So, So it was just part and parcel of a whole spiritual journey I did.
	I got really into Eastern philosophy.
	I studied Zen and I studied Buddhism and I studied, you know, you name it, Taoism.
	I mean, I really, I, you know, one time I was regressed by a psychic when I was fairly young.
	And I don't know what kind of test she did on me, but she said, Oh, you're a soul that knows all the religions.
	There's nothing that's unknown there for you.
	And it is true that I took a literature class in college on India.
	From a man who grew up in India and was, you know, an Indian.
	And I had studied the Bhagavad Gita and I just knew the whole thing.
	And he gave me a straight A and just says, you know, all this stuff.
	It just came naturally to me.
	I think it's because of my prior life stuff, right?
	So that's just so you understand where I'm coming from.
	I love it.
	I mean, Crowley was one of the most influential human beings, I think, in modern history, but mostly through, you know, rock and roll and music.
	And I mean, you know, it persists to this day, you know, when you look at Jay-Z and Beyonce and Do As Thou Wilt on the hoodies and this whole philosophy, which is, You know, it's Thelema, but Thelema is kind of synonymous in a lot of ways with Satanism.
	I like that you made the distinction that it's maybe not, you know.
	It's about self-determination, as far as I'm concerned.
	You can go either negative or positive from there.
	So it's not necessarily passing judgment.
	It's not advocating Satanism, per se.
	I mean, if you read the Book of the Law.
	He also, you know, had ET contact, supposedly, with this particular ET, which is probably a gray alien.
	So this is before anyone else would talk about it in the popular world, you know, the mainstream.
	And so that seemed to also have influenced him.
	And whether it influenced him in a good way or bad way, I can't say, okay, because I don't, When I read that as a kid, I thought, well, this is a creepy kind of character.
	I totally believed in, you know, otherworldly, other dimensions, other beings.
	I mean, all of that I just came in with.
	I communicate, I could communicate and I knew about ghosts.
	I had ghost experiences.
	I can relate to some of those.
	I also was fairly psychic and intuitive, and I knew things.
	That's a big thing about me.
	In fact, my mother... I don't know if I should even say this, but...
	My mother used to call me know-it-all Carrie since I was a little kid.
	I mean really young, like five years old or something.
	Because I would just spout off stuff and just say, you know, and just and talk back to my parents.
	I got in tons of trouble for that.
	Then I started talking back to my teachers, got in trouble for that.
	So I wasn't... I can picture this.
	My personality hasn't changed at all, I have to say.
	You know how some people say they changed so much since they were young?
	I haven't, so for what it's worth.
	I haven't either, and I've been accused of much the same.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Yeah, but you know, it's kind of interesting You know, there's not very many people that would come out and say, Crowley's not all bad.
	And it leads me to this thing that we always come up against.
	You know, we do a lot of amazing interviews with, you know, just tremendous, well, I mean, the guests are tremendous.
	It's like, is it a demon or is it an angel?
	Or is it a demon or an alien?
	Is it this or that?
	And people are so hardwired into a certain perception that they're going to close themselves off completely to any conclusion they might otherwise think themselves through.
	Because of this, it's almost like rooting for a sports team.
	Like either flat earth or round earth.
	If they hear it mentioned on one way or another, they won't watch the rest of the interview.
	It's brought up.
	We're just trying to figure it out.
	When Joe asked me about flat earth, I said, well... A while ago.
	Yeah, years ago.
	I said, well, it's both.
	It's round and it's flat.
	Well, yeah, it's a question of perception.
	I don't think I necessarily want to get in that discussion, but I have my explanation for why people have gotten into that.
	And I do think it's a psyop, by the way.
	But I also know that even Ashuyan and Dean would talk about, you know, the different dimensions like as plates, you know, plates mounted on top of each other, you know, with this.
	It's kind of like Aren't those wedding cakes?
	Well, in England you have tea and each level has different sandwiches and this and that.
	So it's like that.
	The universe, I believe, is constructed something like that.
	The fourth dimension, which we are moving into, and actually have already moved into, and more so It's, you know, I use the word moving into which is probably, you know, a completely misleading terminology because, of course, everything is already here, right?
	So there's no moving that's necessary, but what we do is we say the veils are, you know, thinning and that the fourth dimension is becoming more obvious to us humans and that we are having our More and more of our superpowers revealed to us and our abilities to do things like time travel and change dimensions and et cetera, et cetera.
	And I've always had a lot of.
	natural understanding of that so when I learned about it at a very young age it didn't like I read this I don't know if you know the Seth material when I was like I do I read it when I was 12 okay and when I read it it was like oh yeah this sounds right you know like this is very good and you know so I studied about Jane Roberts and all of that
	Um, so yeah, I mean, I want to get back to the point you were making about people, you know, people with, because I didn't grow up in a, you know, Bible home, I went out and bought a Bible when I was around 12 and decided I needed to read it.
	So I did.
	And I liked it.
	I actually like things about it, you know, but I, I never got programmed.
	Uh, and, uh, I I've already told this story in another show, so I hope it's not going to bore people, but.
	When my mother decided we needed some kind of spirituality or religion, keeping in mind my father would not set foot in a church, and they were married in Stamford Chapel for what it's worth, and my mother graduated from Stamford.
	Basically, what happened was she took me around to churches when I was around 12.
	I don't know the exact age, but it's about that.
	And I was her oldest daughter, so she kind of, I don't know, she kind of relied on me.
	We didn't have your normal mother-daughter relationship.
	I don't know what that is, but I didn't have that kind of relationship with my parents that other people have.
	That I see out there on movies and tv and you know that people talk about.
	My father actually treated me as an equal.
	So I never had that thing where oh she's a woman and she has to behave a certain way and all this kind of you know.
	I never was treated like that ever by my father.
	I was like his friend and I actually would stop him from doing certain things.
	Like, he had a very, I don't know what you call it, animosity towards my brother, who became gay, of all things.
	And he couldn't handle that at all.
	And I would actually interfere when he wanted to, like, hit my brother or something and stop him from doing whatever he didn't think was right.
	And I would actually get in between them and stop him.
	So, I'm just trying to demonstrate.
	I don't mean to get so personal here.
	I don't normally.
	But I think that it's important for people to understand that I never grew up with these programming things that other people have brought with them into their life.
	And therefore, you couldn't tell me, you know, things.
	Like, I mean, I would hear things and listen and I was an avid reader.
	I read tons of stuff.
	Like, the bookmobile would come in summer and I would just get stacks of books.
	I don't know what the hell I was doing, you know, to tell you the truth, but that's what I did.
	So nobody, like, taught me how to be a human.
	I just, you know, did it myself.
	I figured out things, but I know that I wasn't like other kids in that way.
	So, that being the case, now when I talk to people that are religious, okay, and I think 107 is a perfect example because he's like a really, you know who 107 is?
	Very much so, yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we've interacted with him a few times.
	All right, cool.
	Which 107, we're not sure, because I think there's more than one.
	That's correct.
	So, what happens, though, is that, you know, he really hit that religious thing hard.
	And, you know, he uses it to tell stories and, you know, all that stuff.
	In my own mind, I actually wonder if he actually believes this stuff as much as he talks about believing it because it's just, I don't know, there's, I think there's a, you know, disconnect when people are just so obsessed with the Bible and, you know, that story of Jesus and so on and so forth.
	I actually tend to go along with more the Ashean-Adim version, which there's several Christs.
	There was a, you know, 6th dimensional Christ, 9th dimensional Christ, and there might have been a higher level Christ.
	As far as I'm concerned, Christ isn't coming back, you know, the silliness.
	I don't mean to offend anybody, but I'm sorry, you know, we are the second coming, okay?
	If you fail at his job the first time, if you don't have Christ consciousness, that means that you just didn't get it, okay?
	But the reality is that it's up to us now to be the Christ, okay?
	So that's my philosophy.
	So in answer to your question about demons and angels and how you know can call aliens whatever you want I you know I could care less but I think that there's a there's there's an accompanying picture like that a demon is bad and angels are good when actually you know witches and warlocks know for a fact that demons and angels are not necessarily good or bad and there are good demons and
	Bad angels, you know, or they can behave badly, you know what I'm saying?
	So I don't, little, bat little babies flying around with wings is not my idea of an angel either.
	Never mind.
	Well, you know, it's nature.
	Nature doesn't know from right and wrong.
	Nature recognizes balance.
	And I think you definitely understand the idea of balance.
	This idea that everything is going to be fixed.
	We're going to go through this process and then evil will be banished and it'll be light and love from here on out.
	That's not the nature of Creation, that's not the nature of even God's intention.
	It seems that there's always the matter of maintaining balance, whether it's bacteria, mycelium, humanity, everything that exists in all of creation.
	It's all about balance, more than necessarily our conception of right and wrong.
	Well, I believe it's a sensate universe, or at least on the earth plane, and I think that everything is alive, everything has a degree of consciousness, so that if you relate to reality that way, and even everything around you that way, whether it be a table or the computer,
	You know, and I have to be very careful with electronics because I can affect them and they don't, they'll freak out over me.
	And, you know, the same thing like my headlights on my car will just, you know, go out all the time until I finally talk to my car about that whole issue.
	Me too.
	My mother won't let me put Christmas lights on the tree anymore.
	I don't think I've heard that.
	Yeah, no, yeah.
	No, really.
	Yeah, you drive down the street and all the lights will go out.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	Yeah, I have done that, too.
	And the TSA scanners in the airports, I've turned them off.
	You know, I broke them.
	I've broken other things, too, but not by... I wasn't even trying to, really.
	It's just that if I was uncomfortable or didn't like something, then it got messed up.
	So I have to be careful around electronics.
	And you know, it's funny, Miles Johnston was just on my show and they tried to ban that interview.
	And one of the things he talked about, he's Irish and he's actually very funny, but he said that there's, and he's also, I have to say, an intel officer of some kind.
	But he said that Irish people have some kind of metagene that gives them a direct connection to computers and even possibly AI.
	I've never heard anyone say that about Irish people, but I've experienced that.
	One of my webmasters was Irish and obviously I have Irish and all of this kind of thing.
	So there is something to that.
	I don't know literally what that metagene is or anything like that, but that makes sense to me.
	Right.
	It does make sense.
	I'll tell you, being in Ireland, we took a trip to Ireland not too long ago and it's There's a lot of confusion energetically happening in Ireland.
	Yeah, that's a good way to put it, without going into too much... Yeah, I don't think we need to get into detail.
	It's an interesting time around.
	Ireland's kind of a weird vortex, so... Yeah, Ireland's a fascinating place.
	It really is.
	Mark Atwood has a lot to say about it.
	Yeah, we have a buddy... One of you's Irish, right?
	I'm part Irish.
	Yeah, he's part Irish.
	Okay.
	Mostly Italian, but Irish and some Welsh in there.
	Well, on the topic of Ireland, or what we've been talking about, you know, some people have responded in the comments of our show about how the Bible could not have been manipulated, you know, that's God's Word.
	Could you go into a bit, please, to let the viewers know that the Bible that a lot of people read, that it has been manipulated?
	Because it really has.
	Well, it's known history that the Council of Nicaea, you know, and may I say, you know, this is a group of white men.
	Hello?
	Does anyone notice that kind of thing going on?
	So, in our history.
	So, yes.
	In fact, there are a lot of things in the Bible that Christ, in my opinion, would hate.
	And I'm not the only one who thinks that, okay?
	In fact, Christ was not really into the church, that whole idea of a church.
	So, that was Paul, as I understand it, that was Paul's deal.
	The church is not what Christ would be interested in at all.
	So, I think that you have to start there.
	Um, and understand Christ consciousness and, you know, to love each other and, and, you know, to love everything in around you and to, um.
	Some of those things, you know, the truth shall set you free.
	I agree with that sentence, you know.
	But I don't agree that someone followed Christ around with a tape recorder or writing down, you know, a bunch of people with scribes writing down every word he said.
	And then it got into the Bible and they made it read, you know, in the Bible.
	At least the ones I've seen.
	I don't buy that, okay?
	I buy that there are a lot of rewriting of the Bible, a lot of steering of the Bible.
	I believe that, you know, as they say, religion is the opiate of the people, and it is there to actually control you much more than to give you any spiritual basis for your life whatsoever.
	You need to really read between the lines and and do it intelligently.
	And then there's some just completely down and out lies and manipulation going on there too.
	So, you know, what can I say?
	There's 11 references to the Book of Enoch in the Old Testament, and yet there's no Book of Enoch in the Bible.
	I mean, obviously, there's a lot of political advantages to editing the Bible.
	And I think that's entirely what has happened.
	How many books were you saying were originally part of the Bible?
	Well, I've heard that 7-Eleven, the convenience store, I don't know if this is correct, but is the amount of books that may have been taken out and then were left with 66, and this is very specific.
	777 minus 66 is 711.
	I don't know.
	I'm just saying, I think there's a lot of stuff that's left out of what we're supposed to be being taught, and that's the whole premise of what we're here for, is to talk about that stuff.
	It would seem to me that the whole Jesus message really was pretty anti-religion, so... Totally.
	Clearly, that would be pretty politically disadvantageous to issue that message, so I think that was eliminated early on.
	Well, the codification of spirituality into religion is, it's all about control.
	So, controlling the masses, etc.
	You know, I said this in another interview recently, but first of all, I get sick if I go to Vatican Square.
	So, immediately I get ill and I really can't spend hardly any time there at all.
	Now, a long, long time ago, I went by myself there and went on those tours that you go on, just to educate myself about what, you know, the Vatican was all about, having heard of it, of course, my whole life.
	And I have to say that, you know, you know, it's very much programming, in my view, and this, I don't really like the Popes, okay, but, and certainly the Pope, Francis, is it?
	Who was the Nazi that came over from South America.
	And, you know, now I do think that there were a few popes, one in particular, and I don't, I probably don't get his name right.
	He might be called John Paul, but he didn't have a very long reign and he died kind of quickly.
	But I think I liked him.
	I think, I think that's the one, but I might have the name wrong.
	And I, you know, it's been years.
	This was a few Pope John Paul's.
	I mean, I think there was like, right.
	I'm just saying, but I know this one was alive during my time.
	He came to New York City.
	But I think Malachi Martin is a really wonderful person who spent a lot of time in the Vatican, who wrote books about the Satanism in the Vatican and the influx of that into everything Vatican.
	And there's no doubt whatsoever that the Pope is a reptilian and that he's run by the reptilians.
	In fact, there's a whole nest of reptilians under the Vatican.
	For those that don't know, in an underground base.
	And so is the, the dark Pope that, you know, the other one, forget what you call him.
	Maybe you call him the dark Pope, whatever this, you know, the black Pope or whatever.
	So, you know, and he leads the P2 Lodge, you know, in France.
	And I've interviewed Leo Zagami and he was a Satanist and he actually was possessed.
	He became possessed by whatever you want to call that.
	- Leo did.
	We interviewed Leo and I don't think that came up.
	So thank you for clarifying that.
	- It's one of my favorite interviews.
	I love Leo.
	- Yeah, he's a fascinating, and he's written lots of books.
	- Yeah.
	- And he, when I interviewed him, I think I'm one of the first back then to interview him, certainly.
	We interviewed him in person.
	We actually flew over there.
	He, at the time, was living in Norway, of all places, and we interviewed him in Norway, left our car in the Milan airport, which was broken into.
	They didn't take any credit cards that were clearly there, and they were looking feverishly through that car, apparently.
	We found out later, uh, for this Cristoforo Barbato, uh, tape that was supposed to be part of the Vatican, you know, library of, of stuff that was a film, you know, like a tape I'm talking about back in the day of the videotapes of Planet X. And we had gone to interview, uh, Luca Scantamberlo about Planet X who was lived in, um,
	Northern Italy at the time and then we came down to Milan and like I said flew to Norway.
	So during that time they broke into our car and in Norway I had a very weird ET experience with these little ETs that were in this hotel camped out basically probably an underground base under the hotel and I basically was playing hide-and-go-seek with them all night long, and they were so stupid that I just had a very low opinion of them.
	These were actually quite small.
	They were even smaller than your normal small ones, right?
	Like Vril sizes?
	There are lots of different sizes.
	What?
	Like the size of a Vril?
	Were you sad at Hilton?
	I don't remember the name of the hotel, but I woke up early in the morning after having these dreams and basically, you know, trying to fake out these aliens the whole night and told Bill Ryan, who was my partner at the time, that we were leaving right then, the second he woke up.
	In fact, I probably woke him up and we got the hell out of there.
	So just saying, that was just a little anecdote about Norway.
	But anyway, Norway is a very beautiful place, and one of my webmasters, Tommy Hansen, who is with me forever, and is still a good friend, you know, is Norwegian.
	So, I like the Norwegian people, so don't get the wrong idea.
	It's a beautiful country, I was there about 10 years ago.
	It's really lovely, and it's actually kind of a fun place to go, because the people are quite, they're quite different, you know, they're kind of like, I don't know how to explain it, but they were cool.
	Their government has some issues, I understand.
	Yeah, and they have some very intense Illuminati lodges and stuff that run that place, like a freaking Nazi concentration camp.
	They helped blow up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline apparently.
	Well, yeah, that's a whole other story.
	So, you know, not the people, the government, just kind of like the United States.
	Just to clarify.
	Yeah.
	So, but just saying that we interviewed Leo Zagami in Norway, of all places.
	Wow.
	And it was a face-to-face interview.
	And he was very cool in the sense that he told it like it was.
	You know, he basically talked about the Illuminati and told his secrets that he knew as a member.
	And growing up in that world.
	And he also said that, you know, the Bible is their playbook.
	And if it doesn't happen, they're going to make it happen.
	So that's the way they live.
	So was this before, because you said Leo Zoghami was a former Satanist, so was this shortly thereafter he left, you know, being a Satanist?
	Yeah, he had some relationship thing going on at the time, and I think a child at the time, but he
	Well, okay, this is the story is that actually after that, sometime after that, not only did he get possessed, but he also was given a job, which had something to do with why he did the interview in the first place, which was once in a while, Illuminati, the P2 Lodge and in various lodges are given a job to go infiltrate the light side.
	Okay, and that they're supposed to learn that way, and then they come back to the dark.
	In his case, this is hypothetical, okay, because I don't know him now, and he won't talk to me.
	He actually, I tried to interview him, he told me he thinks I'm a CIA agent.
	Which is absurd.
	If you know me, you know how completely absurd.
	I mean, the CIA basically hate me, but whatever.
	So he basically came over to the light side as part of his job.
	He told us that he was going to be doing that.
	Then he did that.
	And I think what happened is he kind of liked it on the light side, and he decided he wanted to stay over there.
	And he also had family reasons for wanting to stay on the light.
	So he moved to America after that and I really lost touch with him so I don't know the saga, you know, that happened since then.
	But I have seen very brief, you know, excerpts of him being interviewed around the place and so that's kind of good.
	I know he's written some great books and I actually bought one of them and, you know, have read part of it.
	Yeah, I mean, I like that he'll tell you the truth.
	You know, he'll tell you a lot of truth, so.
	Yeah, that was one of our most favorite interviews.
	Yeah, and Brad Olson, who we've interviewed a few times, is his publisher, and it's just, it's interesting.
	Well, maybe way down the road, maybe we can bridge the gap between Carrie and Leo.
	I'm not saying- Well, wouldn't that be fun?
	Yeah.
	Who knows?
	We never know where the hell this is going, so.
	Whatever, you know?
	I mean, it's his deal, whatever he wants to think.
	Sure.
	Well, you know, on the topic of Juan07, can you go into, because, you know, we've met him, we've actually talked about how, look, I got his book, you know, you got two for I don't know, it was like $20 or $30.
	Great book.
	Great book.
	And I thought, you know, Juan is going to be a straight shooter.
	I'm quoting a movie from, what is it, Office Space, I think?
	Yeah.
	Straight shooter, upper management.
	I'm reading the book.
	He's talking about the Titanic, you know, Paul McCartney, everything.
	And then he comes out and then there's like, You know, a lot of great information, a lot of disinformation, a lot of dangling carrot.
	And I was finally so fed up after, you know, he basically told us, because we're part of the Truth Tour, we were in Anaheim in fall of 2022, because now it's spring of 2023.
	And he's like, yeah, you know, let people know that Trump's going to be arrested.
	And that was in the fall.
	And here it is.
	And now, now we're seeing this start to happen.
	And I'm like, you know, I'm never going to fucking tell people what Juan says again.
	I don't want him on the show.
	I was just like, you know, I've heard enough because, because part of it is though, is there is disinformation and there is more than one Juan.
	And so and I'm learning a lot of this from listening to you.
	And so we're trying to understand because I'm reading this book and going, this guy's going to be a great resource, you know, straight to the point.
	But now we're seeing, you know, different wands and different information.
	So feel free to comment on that.
	And I know you were going to say, well, I just I feel like Kerry got the same briefing that we did.
	Don't talk about aliens.
	Don't talk about certain things.
	Don't talk about AI.
	Talk about Trump getting arrested next Wednesday.
	Which didn't happen.
	I mean, this was what, like six, seven months ago?
	Right.
	And of course, we didn't do that, much like you didn't do that, but because we're... Well, you know, I've talked a great deal about Juan and I've written about him and I've also written to him and I've also published my letters to him on occasion.
	And, you know, I just gave him a lecture last night.
	I mean, you know, so on a regular basis.
	Which one?
	Do you know which one?
	Well, yes.
	Okay.
	And there's a whole drama behind that.
	So, you know, I don't necessarily want to repeat the whole story, but I will say that.
	Okay.
	So I was one of the journalists among a group of journalists.
	And first of all, I interviewed him in January, I think, and I, you know, I hope I don't get my year wrong, but I think it was January of 2020.
	I interviewed him.
	During that interview, he invited me to come with those other journalists to this Friday night cocktail party and then screenings over the weekend of Sound of Freedom, the child trafficking movie, which, by the way, is extremely tame, totally general, PG, whatever.
	And I can't believe he sat on it for this long, but don't get me started.
	So back to January.
	So January, I interviewed him and after the interview, he told me he would never let me interview him again because it was too dangerous because I would get him to tell the truth.
	Too much truth, as he put it.
	So then in March was the actual event and I went and was at the cocktail party and he came and spoke.
	Now, which one was it?
	It's in Vegas, right?
	Yes, in Las Vegas, sorry.
	Okay, okay.
	And we all stayed in this country western hotel in Vegas that's at the end of the strip.
	It's called South Park or something weird like that.
	And not a very nice hotel, in my opinion.
	You know, because I'm very particular about hotels.
	So, he stayed in the Trump... Hello, wait.
	So he stayed in the Trump and we stayed, you know, us lesser ones stayed in this sort of dreadful place.
	So that's fine.
	I mean, it's livable.
	You're not horrible.
	And it does have a rodeo place somewhere there, which is kind of a redeeming quality.
	Nonetheless, so right away he had told me, I guess to entice me there, that we would have weekend meetings.
	So I thought, wow, cool.
	So I said, of course, I'd go and I'd be there the whole weekend.
	And then we ended up having no meetings, except I pushed the point on the Saturday morning and said, where's the meeting?
	And he said, well, there is one going on right now.
	It's, you know, it was in this place called the Dragons, you know, Hill or wherever.
	Literally dragons, you know, it's a development, a housing development, a very exclusive, expensive house, houses with lots of land, and it's called Dragons something.
	So he told me that, yeah, you know, I could go and I had friends, I'd connected with a number of the journalists and whatever people that were invited.
	And so we all kind of jumped into my car and drove up there and basically walked in on a Republican meeting of just Republicans, and I'm talking old school Republicans, and they were in no way prepared for me or I didn't know this was going to be such an entertaining interview.
	Please, go ahead.
	You're asking me these questions and since I know you a lot and you've met him, it's much easier to talk to you about it.
	So what happened was, of course, I wasn't going to talk and everything and Juan came in and he addressed that crowd.
	I watched his speech and This is, I believe, the real one, you know, John F. Kennedy Jr., in his disguise, which I hate and is so horrible.
	They both wear fat suits and, yeah.
	They wear the exact same disguise, okay, but they're two different guys.
	Anyway.
	So, and I've got all this on my website.
	I've got Photos I've gone into a lot of this.
	Okay.
	And so what happened was he tried to convince that crowd of Republicans that energy energy around the world and that they should get into nuclear energy.
	And I was like, why are you trying to convince these people to get into old school energy when, you know, cause I, I'm all about the secret space program and alternative forms of energy and zero energy, you name it.
	He knows all about it.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Of course he does.
	He's an expert on this stuff.
	So, so then he left, he was there for like a 20 minute speech and he left.
	Then we stayed behind and the group, of people and it was quite a large gathering started you know talking and having their other speakers or whatever and at a certain point they were talking about certain things and I basically but what happened was the mic was going around the room and it sort of sailed near me and I couldn't resist grabbing it so then I said some things and basically
	I freaked everyone out.
	I just... I know what that's like.
	Oh God, that's good.
	And so me and my whole group got up from the table after I spoke, and with the reaction we were getting, and we just walked out.
	So that was my big old school Republican debut, so to speak.
	No, I gotta say, you know, I watched, shout out to Dave from Patriot Underground, you know, we've been watching the interview that you did with him from about a week and a half ago, and I'm taking notes on these great topics, and I love that when you, you know, you learn, and then you just throw all that shit out, and you're like, okay, here we are actually with Terry, talking about all kinds of stuff, because I will say that people should watch that amazing interview that you did.
	Oh, it's a great interview.
	With Dave from Patriot Underground.
	Okay.
	And he had great questions, and he had great insight, and I was thinking that this might be part two, but this is a whole different ballgame, which comes with people that, you know, it's great to be... Well, it's because you're in the know.
	Now wait, so I just want to say though...
	That prior to that weekend, I already knew that John F. Kennedy Jr.
	was alive, okay?
	And I had done some research on that, so that by the time I interviewed him, if you ever listened to my interview that January, I actually said, do you want me to call you John?
	Do you want me to call you John John?
	Do you want me to call you Juan?
	And he said, I prefer Juan.
	And so that was the first thing I said to him.
	You know, we had been texting back and forth, of course, to set up the interview, though.
	So then what happened was we were texting after I left that event, you know, at the end of the event.
	And I was there.
	And at one point I was late to one of the screenings and I went into the theater and my friends were all sitting in a particular area.
	And Juan was sitting by himself on the side of, you know, on one of the chairs and you know how you go up the stairs in the theater.
	So I just went like that, you know, just to like, I don't know, just say hi, you know, like, but I tapped his shoulder and I realized that it felt like he had like straw under his, His, his, you know, where his shoulder would be.
	And so that actually, and I already had met him in person at the cocktail party also.
	And when I went up to him, he acted really weird and I just stood there and I was like, what?
	He's not going to, you know, they're, they kept their conversation going, ignoring me, which, you know, I don't like to be ignored.
	Of course not.
	So I expected him to be more cordial towards me, but he wasn't.
	And also immediately, because I'm very psychic, I knew there was something wrong.
	So when I went home, I told my girlfriend there was something wrong with his face and I couldn't figure it out.
	Okay, I wasn't even into the bodysuit thing.
	I didn't even know about the bodysuit thing.
	At the time.
	I did investigate that whole thing.
	Sean David Martin is a good friend of mine and he told me that he dressed up in one of those body suits, had a mask and the whole thing and his family didn't even recognize him.
	So, and I have a, you know, a contact, an intelligence agent contact.
	And I asked him about the whole, you know, how convincing could this be and blah, blah, blah.
	And he basically said, yeah, it was totally convincing and all that.
	So I had, you know, I did research.
	Then what happened was, you know, I was just texting back and forth, like cordially with him on the phone.
	When things would something would be said or something whatever and then on April 3rd the Schumann resonance went through the roof and that night I had non-stop dreams about Juan and Trump the whole night and in that dream sequence which I kept coming awake and going back into and that was one of the things that um it's this dream thing that I have
	Done before it happened to me in Egypt one time but it hadn't happened to me since then and it's the most bizarre thing where I actually go into another reality and I completely believe that's reality so that when I woke up I was like, no, this is not reality.
	I am not here and I'm going back there, you know, because it was very interesting to be hanging out with John Jr.
	and Trump, right?
	Well, in my dreams of John, a lot of it more of John Jr.
	than Trump, he told me exactly how he did his disguise, like everything about it.
	I didn't remember all the details, but I knew he told me everything.
	So I woke up at nine o'clock that morning and I actually, I thought, what do I do now?
	Do I tell him that I've had these dreams?
	I hope he's not going to think I'm a psycho or something.
	So, you know, but then I thought, fuck it.
	If I don't tell him now, I probably never will.
	And that'll be really horrible because this was an incredible night of dreams.
	And one of the dreams was that Trump was going to run in 2024, which ended up to be true.
	And I did not dream that he would run or win in 2020.
	So that's kind of interesting.
	So what happened was I texted him and he answered me like he had his phone right in his hand.
	Immediately, he said, now you've got my attention.
	And I've saved all these texts, or most of them.
	But he said, now you've got my attention.
	He said this week, I think he said two or three other people had dreams about him, Juan, being JFK Jr.
	That's what he said.
	He never denied it whatsoever.
	And he told me he actually wrote in quite extensive detail this other person's dream.
	Well, their dream was nothing like my dream, but their dream was of Juan and John in a car together in the Long Beach area, a convertible, as I remember, coming down a road.
	And that person was asking them questions.
	And every time that she would ask them a question, they would look at each other and then one of them would answer.
	So she was getting that kind of a dream.
	Mine were way different than that, but whatever.
	So because of that, strangely for me, okay, I had Constant dreams for weeks and then months.
	Every like every other night or every you know for in the beginning was very often and now it's only you know once every few months really that I have a dream but I still have them.
	In fact recently I had a dream and and the other thing is I text him and tell him but what happened was a year into texting him And I also met with him at the Patriot Double Down.
	That's a whole other story.
	And we don't have a lot of time for this, I'm sure, because, you know, we're trying to keep this kind of concise.
	So I'm not going to go into that because I did in other interviews.
	But I want to say that.
	So what happened was about around December of so that was December of twenty twenty going into January, I think, of twenty twenty one is when he cut off speaking to me on at all.
	On text.
	Has it been that way ever since?
	Yeah, so now he will not text me back, but I constantly send him stuff.
	I send him all my interviews.
	I talk to him.
	I complain about everything he does.
	I compliment him sometimes.
	I tell him all this stuff.
	Like I said, I just did last night.
	You know, so I just figure, he told me at one point, okay, so then I met with him at the Renegade, not some Renegade, the Reckoning Festival in August of this last year, 2022, right?
	I met him in person there again, but I also, during the Patriot Double Down, I stayed in the Trump Hotel and I argued with the other one in the lobby In full view of everyone, I had friends there sitting at a table.
	I kept going up to his table when he later sat down, you know, just kidding around with him and asking him crazy stuff and telling him to his face he wasn't Juan, you know, that he wasn't John and that, you know, where's John?
	And there was a whole thing going on about that.
	I'm not going to go into detail because, you know, I do try to protect his privacy to a degree, believe it or not.
	So, but I'm just telling you, I can tell you that I was super close to his face.
	Kind of, we were having a big, deep discussion right in the Trump lobby and I was staring because at that point I had decided.
	After, you know, the 1st time I'm meeting him at the cocktail party and that weekend, and then this was the Patriot double down that I was going to figure out.
	What the hell was going on with him, right?
	And so I stared at this guy's face very close and he had blue eyes.
	Okay.
	And I, I could see that he, he was like, nothing like Juan.
	Okay.
	Juan John.
	He was nothing like him in personality.
	He was, uh, he's like much more, um, what do you call it?
	So John, if, if, if one is hot, the other one's cold.
	Okay.
	So John jr is very passionate.
	Hot.
	He's very, um, you know, he uses all his drama to get his audience and all that.
	This guy is, like, very, you know, sort of, um, you know, objective, you know, point-blank.
	Functionary.
	Logical, you know, very logical.
	Um, totally different vibe.
	Totally different.
	So, wears the same weird outfit, right?
	Yeah.
	And then we got proof of this, that there's at least two wands, and there may be more from the hotel itself, okay?
	I'm not going to get anybody in trouble over there, but I can tell you that we really drilled down in this story.
	So yeah, that's the story you wanted to know about Wan.
	Well, I'll tell you, I had a very similar experience.
	I think we both did.
	The guy that gave us the briefing, with all the disinformation, had a completely different vibe from the guy that presented the evening before, I believe.
	So, I'm right there with you on that.
	I get really irritated about disinformation and I voice that on the show.
	There's plenty of it.
	I've invited Juan to come on the show anytime, but I think it's important for me to say I would prefer Yeah, and let me say this, okay?
	Now, I may be wrong about this, and it's not like he always tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
	I'm not saying that.
	But I do know that he actually, I'm talking about John Jr.
	That version of Juan.
	He has a code of ethics, and I believe he has made a vow to himself.
	First of all, if you ever have listened to him, and as much as I have, and occasionally he has been asked if he, you know, if he is John Jr.
	or whatever, and he never answers the question.
	He gets silent.
	He does weird shit.
	And by the way, if you ever mention my name, he'll go completely silent and get very weird also.
	So don't, don't do that.
	But anyway, he, so.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	But I have to say that he doesn't lie to people.
	Okay.
	So he will walk around the truth.
	To get out of it, but he will not lie to you directly.
	I believe, especially the people, okay, when he's doing broadcasts, and I think it's a code of honor that he has.
	And therefore, that is part of his style that he, you know, instead of answering the question, he'll tell you a biblical parable, blah, blah, blah.
	It was like a gypsy pickpocket.
	He's so skilled with that shit.
	It's amazing.
	Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
	No, it really is.
	He really is good.
	Yeah, and you know, 20 minutes into his story, you forgot the question you asked him in the first place.
	Yes, I think that's part of his point.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's brilliant.
	Yeah, but sometimes he will tell you the truth within the story though.
	So if you listen close enough, and occasionally, in fact, he just did it recently.
	I've just put it on my telegram today.
	I was listening to this interview he did with Tom Numbers.
	There's 2 good interviews lately, 1 in particular, Tom Numbers, he revealed some truth and with Lewis Herms.
	By the way, I got to know Lewis quite a bit because I've interviewed him a couple of times.
	I've met him.
	I spoke at the truth conference and Lewis and I kind of have a similar point of view about a lot of things.
	So.
	I can tell you that, um.
	What was my point?
	Um, just that.
	I don't know that just to say that he's he his style one style is a certain kind of style, but he has dropped some truth recently.
	Do you want me to tell you what they are?
	Because, you know, real quick, he'll take you 10 years, 10 years to tell you again, but you think that was the real one with Lewis though?
	Because lately, yes, he lately said that there are four Bidens.
	Okay, and he also said he's talking a lot about the biscuit that the FBI went into Mar-a-Lago to get and that Trump has memorized it and left the actual biscuit in Norad.
	And he also said.
	I have it written down, these things written down.
	I put them on my telegram, so do you mind?
	I'll try to bring them up.
	No!
	Do whatever you need to.
	You guys can ask me a question meanwhile, while I'm waiting for this to come up.
	I don't want to forget the things he said, because it was quite good, what he said, these couple of things that he said recently.
	I think Juan's suit guy and Biden's suit guy might be the same guy, because they're so believable.
	No, no, because, you know, I mean, it's clear that Biden has these, I mean, there is no real Biden, whereas there is a real Biden.
	The real Biden's dead.
	I was kind of going for the joke there, Carrie, but yeah, yeah, the real Biden's no more.
	And the whole Hunter Biden laptop thing, like, what is, how did, what's your perspective On how the laptop got to the guy's shop.
	What really happened there?
	I have no idea, but he is a drug addict, so anything's possible.
	With Hunter?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, there's, you know, the rush.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, you know, but whether that was a mistake or a convenient mistake or whether that was a call for help, because, you know, Juan actually, I think he knew Hunter in his younger days or something, because he seems to have quite a sympathy for Hunter.
	I mean, he doesn't agree with anything he does, but If you listen closely, he actually said that he, you know, that unfortunately he grew up with this horrible father and in this circumstance and that it more or less put him into this position where he had to be the bag man for all of the illegal stuff that the Biden mafia family does.
	Kind of like W. On that topic, I think of all the actors and actresses and musicians and the whole being inverted thing, if that's a topic we get into or not.
	All the satanic, inverted, weird shit that they have to deal with.
	If you're inverted from a young age and given hormones and you have to live as the different sex and remove your whatever, And then, you know, it's years later, and you've been MK Altered, like, they didn't choose that.
	And if they don't go along with it, well, they, you know, as souls, they definitely chose it.
	So that's a whole other level, you know, but the bottom line is that, you know, it's also the John McAfee stuff has never really come out, you know, and that a lot of promises from one on that one.
	Now, let me address the fact that He's not lying when he says something's going to happen and it doesn't.
	It just means that the timeline has changed, that the dark side has done something to interfere.
	You know, like basically 9-11, an apartment building a block away from Ivanka's house.
	And the rumor at that time, also when they went after the McAfee stuff, is that Barron might have been kidnapped during that time.
	So we're talking really...
	This is not everyday stuff.
	This is stuff that interrupts any timeline or any prediction that anyone has.
	So you can't go around saying he's lying to you.
	He's not lying.
	It just didn't happen like he thought it would right then and there.
	But usually, it almost always, he always turns out to be right.
	He always turns out to be right.
	It just may take a little bit longer than... Yes.
	It was right about the Trump arrest, wasn't he?
	It just took, what, seven months?
	And he knew way before, he said that before anyone did.
	I've heard other people give credit to other people and they are wrong.
	He is the one who said that unequivocally.
	Now I'm trying to get on my telegram because I want to tell you See, also, just for those that are listening and don't know this already, my telegram, I go on there and actually start ranting in text, okay?
	So, at any given day, if I read something or I come across something, and it could be from Juan or some other, you know, video I've seen or whatever it is, or it's an article that I come across, I will start ranting.
	And, you know, sometimes I go on for a while But at least if you want to stay in touch with me and want to know what I'm seeing and what I'm coming across and, you know, you can get some very thought-provoking ranting from me on there.
	Okay, so I'm trying to... this thing is not loading.
	Of course, go figure.
	Of course, I want to show you something.
	Well, while you look for that, Gene Decode was a big part of my awakening, and I know you're going to be doing another show next week with Dave from Patriot Underground.
	Gene, what is your take on Gene?
	What's your experience been with Gene Decode?
	Well, I think Gene is wonderful.
	I really do.
	I, you know, I don't always think the information he's giving about the underground bases is like right on the money.
	I think he has to be really careful.
	So I think he may have to change certain things like locations or dates or whatever it happens to be.
	I mean, you know, I understand he's trying to protect himself, his identity and the identity of the people that are involved in these operations.
	He has told well okay a long time ago he told people that he wouldn't do an interview with me and he hasn't because he thinks just like Juan thinks that I get people to break their security oath so he wouldn't go near me.
	But then what happened was Patriot Underground had this brilliant idea to get us on a show where we don't exactly talk to each other, except sort of cordially, but I don't ask him any questions and he doesn't ask me any questions.
	So it's really all going through Patriot Underground.
	And it seems to work to keep Gene thinking that he's safe from my powers, you know, whatever.
	Whatever.
	With regard to Gene and the statement that you made about Juan being off as far as the timeline, we had Andrew Visaggio on the show, who you may or may not be familiar with.
	Yes.
	In fact, I was one of the first people that even brought him to the public in some ways.
	Aside from, you know, what's his name?
	I'm drawing a blank on the person's name, but anyway, the Canadian lawyer, whatever his name is.
	So yes, Basiago is actually, we did a television pilot for a television show for TruTV that was supposed to be the follow-up to Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory.
	And we filmed it all over the Southwest on location.
	We had a lot of my Camelot witnesses in it, and we were in it.
	And you know, it was, it's actually very good.
	It's well done.
	And you can watch it on the about us page on my website.
	It's if you scroll down, you'll see it embedded there.
	So what happened is they fired.
	Okay.
	So, um, what happened was that Gordon Avell, who I have interviewed many times and became kind of like.
	Kind of like a friend, loosely speaking, okay?
	So we would talk every once in a while and whatever.
	So what happened was, he basically called me up while we were on location in Palm Springs with him and everybody.
	But he was like, you know, wherever he was at the time.
	And he said, I know you think I work for the CIA and I'm going to tell you you're right.
	Because he always used to deny it all the time.
	So it was kind of an ongoing joke between us.
	And he goes, and by the way, I have them on the line here and they want to talk to your producer.
	So I ran downstairs and gave the phone to my producer.
	We were staying in a hotel and they had a conversation.
	They basically, through Gordon and through the CIA guy, whoever talked to him, offered him that we would go to series if they could run the show.
	And our producer was young and kind of, you know, full of himself, whatever you want to say that is.
	And, you know, principled, maybe you want to say that, um, and said no to them.
	And then he got fired and he basically, I think, left the entertainment industry shortly after that.
	So I don't, there might've been some other things they did to him.
	Then they, they fired our producer.
	They fired the director.
	and they took our our footage and they re-edited it and they put it together the way they wanted it and then they put it on the shelf and it never got seen for a couple of years and then all of a sudden one night we got word from because we had a lot of loyal fans out there that it was listed in the tv guide that was going to be on that night it was like a friday night so we quickly
	Put that out to all our fans and we also recorded it and so what you see on my website is the recorded footage of the show that we basically decided it was our show and we co-produced it basically because a ton of it was all our witnesses and then they also took all of my lines and they gave them to Bill because they wanted Bill to be the big man like Jesse Ventura and they didn't like the fact that I was you know who I was
	So they sidelined me.
	So a lot of times you'll see, if you watch that show, you'll see me standing there silent.
	And it's really actually kind of funny if you know me.
	It was your words that Bill was saying.
	Yeah, you being silent doesn't make a lot of sense.
	No, you'll see me.
	And there's one frame where we're talking to David Wilcock, who was one of our witnesses back then.
	And David had just said to us, OK, so what happens?
	You don't know the history.
	I have a huge history with David and, you know, interviewed him and brought him back to into the sort of public eye when he was actually thinking of quitting.
	And he'll even tell you that.
	And so what happened was we were on the set with David and they were filming us.
	And right prior to that scene, I had asked David if we could interview his famous whistleblower because he started doing what we do after he met us.
	I guess he thought what we were doing was brilliant and he decided he needed a piece of that action because it's kind of hard to just get up on stage or wherever it is.
	and spat off the top of your head endlessly, you run out of data, right?
	So he decided he could stay current, I think, by doing what we do.
	So he had a whistleblower of his own called Daniel.
	So I said, and I used to give him my whistleblowers to talk with, to get intel, right?
	I would connect him.
	So I had connected him with Henry Deacon and a bunch of other ones that were really top whistleblowers, right?
	And so I said to him, uh, I'd like to interview Daniel.
	Can you arrange it?
	And he told me no.
	And I was so mad that he said that to me.
	And so what you'll see is you'll see if there's a shot of me with David and I open my mouth and I have my mouth open like I can't fucking believe you're saying no to me.
	Right?
	And so what they wrote into the script was that I was surprised by something David said.
	When David got all this information from us, it's like, you know, that's TV for you.
	They, they lie and they do all kinds of, even reality TV is totally staged.
	Okay.
	Just to say, in case you don't know that.
	I often wonder.
	David, because, I mean, in 2017 I listened to a lot of his material and it stimulated about a thousand hours of research, but I think he's kind of lumped in with the whole Cory Goode kind of... Well, that was a very unfortunate time in David's existence, but I don't want to go into all that because, you know, certain people are not Whatever.
	So I've got my, this thing up here.
	What I wrote that Juan said earlier today, cause I'm like, I am so prolific on this channel and I have about a hundred thousand, depending on where we're down to 98,000.
	I don't know where these people go.
	They come and go, right?
	If I say something.
	That's censoring.
	I don't think that's anything to do with, yeah.
	Or I'm being ghosted or whatever they call that.
	So, um, So right here, I'm going to share my screen, okay?
	But you guys can look at it later and people can actually read it later because I don't want to take up your time by literally reading it because, again, part of it is just me saying, okay, so he reveals that the Department of Defense had a vaccine prepared in 2013 before the release of COVID, okay?
	Right.
	We're talking 2013, okay?
	A vaccine already on the books.
	Seven years.
	And he states that the planning was so extensive that nothing Trump would have done when he came into office would have done anything, that it was going to be released no matter what he did, and it was going to be released worldwide.
	And it specifically talks about an incident, which he's talked about before, in case you don't know, Where they actually went in with helicopters and special forces into Wilshire Boulevard to the Guatemalan embassy where it was being released.
	And they actually, according to him, bagged it up and flew it out of the place to stop that release of COVID.
	And I think that might have happened prior to 2019.
	So just saying that these are some interesting intel drops and then the other thing he said about the nuclear biscuit and Trump and the fact that see what then I start ranting about the fact that I think in case you are watching him lately you'll see that he is Talking a lot right now about what he calls the nuclear biscuit.
	Okay.
	And the fact that they, that.
	Biden arranged the whole thing from his office, having the FBI basically do his bidding and go break into Trump's Mar-a-Lago.
	But what that tells you is that Trump is still president and and.
	You know, commander in chief.
	Okay.
	And so when you look, this is how you have to listen to Juan.
	So you have to understand is what, why is he telling you this?
	And why does he keep repeating it?
	What he's doing is he's basically now emphasizing the fact that Trump has the nuclear codes.
	And I also say in my rant over there that I had actually gone to Minden, Nevada To hear Trump speak in person.
	So I was at a rally before he stopped doing rallies, right?
	Whenever that was.
	And I heard him say, and this is amazing, I think, he basically did a whole explanation, a whole case of how the Clintons lost the codes, how Biden lost the codes and didn't have them, and how he had them.
	And he said this at a rally over, you know, in public.
	So that was before the raid of Mar-a-Lago.
	Now you've got Juan emphasizing the fact that Trump has the codes, because what is happening is they're desperate to start a nuclear war with Ukraine, but they don't have any nukes.
	They can't do jack shit.
	With that without the codes and so, of course, they need them and Trump hasn't.
	So, what does that tell you?
	It tells you that Trump's still president.
	He never stopped being president and he's also commander in chief.
	It's kind of like a roundabout way of getting to tell the public that.
	Hey, hello.
	If you put 2 and 2 together, this is what's happening.
	See, I interpreted that a little differently in that I don't, you know, we hear the story about, you know, I think it was during the Eisenhower era, the idea that galactics came in and said, look, you're messing stuff up in other dimensions.
	You can't do this anymore.
	And they deactivated it.
	As far as the nukes, right?
	The nukes.
	Yeah.
	No, that's not what happened.
	Not what happened.
	Okay.
	Illuminate the terrain for us.
	Well, I mean, I'm just because I've been around this stuff for so long.
	I've heard I've heard completely different stories.
	That's why we actually did was they made a deal with Eisenhower that that.
	Basically, Eisenhower did a deal with the grays that they could abduct certain amount of people in the United States in exchange for, you know, for, you know, technology.
	Okay.
	An exchange.
	That's what really took place.
	He also had meetings with.
	Pleiadians and a couple others by the way the very first meeting they ever had was with an octopus you know that that movie that was made of octopuses I know this sounds insane but this is actually this but it it doesn't anymore actually sorry it doesn't sound insane anymore okay so anyway just explaining that you know just so you know that you you have no idea the amount of stuff that's gone on
	But be that as it may, the idea here is not that the aliens wanted us to stop having nukes and stuff.
	Of course, some did, but the bottom line is, actually, this is kind of interesting.
	I don't know if you know who Robert Salas is?
	He's a whistleblower had to do with the Wyoming Minnow Missiles.
	Okay that missile installation.
	He was he worked there.
	He was guarding them He slept overnight on the site and all that kind of stuff and he was down in the bunker below it and they had a whole UFO Incursion coming there.
	Well, one of the things that came out a while later, you know, he talks about well, they turned them all off actually There are a lot of greys out there who have actually gone into our sites and turned them on.
	Okay.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Wow.
	It's completely, you know, this is, you know, this is the story behind the story.
	So they are actually trying to create a war, getting us into a war.
	And by the way, Captain Mark Richards has told me numerous historical events that were involved with Greys and not what we think they were at all.
	So that a lot of the things that are going on here on Earth, including this war we're in right now, Has an E.T.
	component and sometimes the E.T.
	component far overrides and overshadows the American issue or the, you know, the world human issue.
	So and that has to do with the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis and this ship that was blown up off the coast of Israel.
	I forget the name of it and a lot of incidents.
	Okay, and in fact the entire Vietnam War.
	It was all fought over the invasion of spider beings, which I've talked about before.
	I can get into that.
	I, it looks like you're, I'm kind of blowing your minds here.
	So I want to slow down just the spider beings part.
	I, that part I wasn't.
	And I actually put the word out and said, if there are any Vietnam vets who remember, got their memories back, because they all get wiped, and they remember anything to do with this, and I got three people come to me.
	One of them wouldn't come on public, and two of them, one of them ended up coming, going public.
	The other one was sort of back channel.
	So all I can tell you is that, yes, and I'll explain the whole thing.
	So if you go to Angkor Wat in Cambodia, you'll see there's a story.
	It's like a famous story about how that city disappeared overnight.
	That all the people just, you know, it's a very ornate, beautiful place and it has a river running through it.
	And what happened was all of the being all the humans there disappeared overnight.
	This is back centuries ago.
	Like, I don't even remember the exact year.
	Okay.
	Then, fast forward to Vietnam, what they had was, what, okay, so let me explain what happened to Ankur Wat.
	So this is what Mark Richards told me, and you gotta understand that this is a, one of the best whistleblowers ever.
	He, he basically, I've interviewed him now for over a five-year period of time, kind of like every six months, so I have 12 interviews with him, which I'm working into a book.
	But, basically, he had nothing to lose by telling me what he told, because they considered that he's discredited, okay, because he is up on charges of being a mastermind of a murder that he didn't commit, which, by the way, was committed by three young men, one of who got off completely scot-free,
	And the other 1, I think, did state set of evidence and got off and then there was just 1 other 1 that got stuck in prison with Mark.
	So, what happens is Mark's trial was a whole dog and pony show.
	So.
	And I, you know, all of this is on my website.
	You can investigate and do all your study.
	And then you also need to know that there's a guy, I don't think I'm going to say his name, but his initials are K M, I think.
	And years ago, he started attacking and he was a British Intel asset.
	I won't even call him an agent.
	I think he's an asset, but who had a pornographic store in Holland and a bunch of other fake businesses and all kinds of weird stuff.
	He also became a radio DJ.
	You might know who I'm talking about, but he started threatening me, Mark's wife and Mark nonstop.
	He even went to an old apartment building where I used to live.
	Thank God I didn't live there anymore.
	Stood outside there yelling my name.
	With his camera going, filming that front door, thinking that I lived in that place, and he broadcast it and put on the Internet.
	I tried to get you to take it down.
	Of course, they wouldn't do that, even though it's total invasion of privacy, et cetera.
	But anyway.
	That guy was run by British intelligence, okay, and still is.
	Hopefully he won't hear this interview.
	But anyway, so what happens is, Angkor Wat, going back there, so this is what Mark says happened, is that these spider beings came through a portal, invaded the area, and the way spider beings get their victims is they mind control them.
	And so what they did is they mind controlled that whole city basically to that had a river going through it that it had no water so people basically got dehydrated and then died of thirst after which they got they eat they ate them all i know this is horrible the size of vw bugs okay sorry But, and I can't stand spiders, so believe me, I hate telling this story.
	But nonetheless, this is what Mark told me, and then he said when Vietnam came around, they had started to open the portal and come through again.
	So the Vietnam War, although there may have been some things about communism, blah, blah, the bottom line was this stopping and closing the portal that was allowing these beings in again.
	And that's what the war was cover for.
	This is what he says.
	It sounds the most... like, why would you make this stuff up?
	It just sounds insane, okay?
	So, as far as I'm concerned, even because of that, it gets credibility.
	But when I put the word out for the Vietnam Vets, there were, like I said, three that came forward for what it's worth.
	So, I'm just... What did they say about that experience?
	Did they see these beings?
	They think they did.
	They think they actually saw piles of bodies.
	That they came in at night and I don't know, whatever they did, but yeah, that's one of the stories that one of the guys told me.
	Those things have been around for a very long time.
	I mean, well, Miles Johnston, who again, I told you he's an Intel agent.
	He actually told me that they're still here and that there are some in, I hate saying this, but the Lake District of the UK in tunnels.
	So there are a few residual ones, but I guess they keep them under control.
	And, um, I also had another whistleblower who told me that they had, there was an incoming race of these things making a deal with China.
	And this was quite a few years ago.
	So I have to assume they might've arrived and made their deal, but they were considered the new kids on the block for what it's worth.
	I don't know.
	I haven't gotten any followup on that.
	But the, I keep wanting to call him the agent, which he is, but this Intel intelligence guy is a secret witness who's never gone on video, never had an interview, only tells me back channel stuff.
	So.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I think they go way, way, way back, like pre-Atlantean back.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, we've interviewed Stephen Kelly and Oh yeah, he's great with the whole Getty thing.
	Right, but he doesn't think that any of the kids have been rescued underground.
	And Gene Decoe talks about a completely different perspective.
	So can you give us some insight on to what may be going on actually going on underground?
	Well, no, I think Gene is right.
	I think they are rescuing kids.
	I've heard certain stories about it, and I actually had a certain kind of a dream that I'm not going to reveal.
	I can say that Stephen Kelly has his own perspective.
	You know, you gotta understand how this kind of stuff, a lot of it, the reason I have stuff that people don't is because I'm not partitioned, okay?
	So a lot of people get into their own sort of thing, right?
	Right.
	That's their area from that too.
	So that's why we appreciate a broad perspective.
	So please go right.
	So so that's all I'm not saying for Stephen Kelly for his information now.
	I okay the Getty.
	Okay.
	That is a really let's see a deep nest.
	Let's say so he may be correct about that particular site.
	Okay.
	I don't know necessarily that the White Hats Have even been able to broach that site.
	Okay.
	The Getty specifically.
	Yeah, it's because there's two Gettys, the old one and the new one.
	How far apart are they?
	I don't think I knew that.
	A few miles.
	The old Getty is on the coast and the new Getty is up on a hill in Brentwood, so it's not that many miles.
	But you can imagine how deep and how big that base is.
	It's got to be massive.
	So, I don't know, but judging from where we're at, okay, where we're at right now, okay, bringing us fast forward to this situation is that.
	This, I think, for the White Hats is a much longer thing than they maybe initially thought.
	Agreed.
	And maybe also, you know, it's kind of like easy to propagandize your own stuff, right?
	Because you want to be hopeful, you want people on your side.
	It's not like outright lies so much as it is hopeful views of the future, right?
	But, and even, okay, I mean, I have dreams, psychic dreams that come true and such.
	This is what I will say, okay, because there's a lot of disinfo and bullshit out there, to tell you the truth.
	Yeah, we and our viewers are trying to figure this out, so.
	So, I will say this.
	I have dreamed that the White Hats are going to be triumphant at a certain point, but is not going to stay that way.
	I've dreamed I attend a party.
	I've had lots of dreams of the future, okay?
	And I have also dreamed that what they're doing now, they're still going to be involved in in the future.
	In a sense, that's the good thing, okay?
	So that means they're not going to ever back down from this fight.
	But it is going to quiet down.
	It's going to appear as though there's some degree of victory of humanity.
	But I think that is a ploy of the dark side.
	It's just my point of view.
	But I have to tell you, based on 18 years of getting deep into the rabbit hole, This is actually, you know, I really have psychoanalyzed the Illuminati big time, okay?
	I think I'm, you know, I told Juan that the White Hat should hire me.
	He doesn't think he needs me, okay?
	But I think he does, okay?
	So that's just an ongoing argument with him.
	I think that they could use you personally.
	Okay, because I don't come across anyone who has what I have, okay, in terms of my depth of knowledge in these areas.
	I listen to people.
	I try to find, you know, and I'm not saying I know everything.
	Occasionally, there'll be somebody talking about something that I don't maybe know much about, but I've had an incredible schooling, if you will, from all the whistleblowers.
	I mean, I've interviewed over 1,500 people, probably more, and I've also done a terrific amount of investigation.
	And those 1,500 would be public.
	I also have back channel experts telling me all kinds of stuff all the time and Intel coming in, even though they have really shut it down a lot because whistleblowers don't come out much.
	And even the ones that do are full of shit a lot of times.
	But I will say that I believe, okay, I had this for what it's worth.
	All right.
	You don't have to believe me, whatever.
	I really don't care.
	But just because you guys are so knowledgeable and, you know, it's fun to talk to some people that really know stuff.
	Um, I went to John Lear's birthday party.
	And I wasn't supposed to go there, but we got invited, and we were in Vegas.
	First, I can't remember.
	I think we were going to interview him then, or, you know, I've done several interviews with him.
	Well, he died, right?
	But prior to his death, he had a birthday party, and George Knapp was there, and he had Bob Lazar on the video.
	He didn't make it in person, and there was a bunch of people there, okay?
	A very select group of people, very much in the know of everything.
	And on the way there, We're driving, you know, kind of, it's Vegas, but it's kind of the desert, right?
	At night, and we're trying to get to his house, and it was taking a while.
	And I kind of went into some kind of thing, whatever you want to call that, and I got like a download.
	And what they told me, it was right at the beginning, the very beginning of when it was starting to come out about the whole child trafficking, pedophiles, that they were going to be exposed.
	What year was this, roughly?
	Well, it was his birthday.
	His daughters would know.
	But just generally speaking, let's just say, I don't know, five or seven years ago.
	No, more than that, because it's way before Trump ran for office and all that stuff.
	Ten years ago-ish, maybe.
	Maybe, yeah.
	So, what happened was, I got information and I told it to my partner at the time.
	And I said, I just got this information coming to me and they're telling me that although they're going to expose all of this, that the real culprits, the real deep level, high level Illuminati are going to get away and they are going to go deeper.
	And they're going to disappear for a while.
	They're going to appear to, you know, be gone.
	And then they will resurface.
	That's going to be their tactic.
	Okay.
	So that the humans think they've won, but they haven't.
	I mean, these people are, I mean, you can hardly call them people, but they are so nefarious and so devious and, you know, it's endless.
	So that's what I got.
	And it just came to me.
	I, you know, I don't claim, I'm not claiming that wasn't my thought.
	It was actually sort of coming to me.
	Like that, you know, as a whole piece of information.
	So at the time we were not deep into this at all.
	So it didn't, you know, I thought, why the hell am I learning this now?
	But I was kind of got in an altered state while we're driving there and it was really dark at night and that's what I got.
	So part of, I think, this awakening, if you will, and you spoke a little bit about S.G.
	Anon in the interview with Dave from Patriot Underground, is that this isn't all, as people say, rainbows and whatever, that we really need to be, this is to raise the consciousness, but stay conscious, stay aware, We're constantly looking for things.
	Not that we're at the end of this at all, but what's your advice for humanity knowing this stuff as to what to look for and to keep an eye out for?
	We see children being indoctrinated into being sexualized and transgendered and all this stuff, but where are we supposed to go with what we know?
	I've talked a little bit about this on various videos, but I'll kind of encapsulate it.
	What can we do?
	What's some insight into that?
	Well, okay.
	I've talked a little bit about this on various videos, but I'll kind of encapsulate it.
	So the bottom line, as far as I'm concerned, is the negative serves the positive.
	What that means is that the negative is not just useless and you're never going to get, you know, everything useless.
	You can call it a golden age if you want, but the negative is going to be there.
	It's just going to be hidden.
	So what happens is if it's a barometer, you know, like this kind of thing that goes like that.
	Right now we are we are over here to the negative on earth okay and the idea of the fight we're fighting is to bring the needle back to the middle so that there's a balance between light and dark on earth again.
	What that does is it's free will sector and so that people can decide to go to the dark in order to learn what they need to learn and then to come back onto the light and that is the quintessential whistleblower story as well.
	So as far as I'm concerned, this is not some big tragedy.
	We know, and I've talked about this before, and luckily William Tompkins came to the fore and wrote his books and actually did lots of interviews with Guy MTB Number one but with me for three hours and then he was cut off from talking to me after that because he'd been so forthcoming during those that three hours.
	It was me and Michael Stratt who's an aerospace expert.
	We're doing the interview but of course It was mainly me.
	And I, in the interview, it's fascinating because, you know, at the end of the interview, he says he loves me and all this stuff.
	He just basically, you know, came forward with everything.
	And he was saying that our secret space program was built in cooperation with the Pleiadians.
	And those Pleiadians were beautiful Pleiadian women, mostly, who went to work for the men in the space program.
	And basically helped run those men and run the whole program.
	Then a bunch of reptilians came in.
	Germans and reptilians, right?
	That whole influx.
	And then they actually sabotaged our space program, tried to slow us down, keep us here on Earth and all that stuff.
	And talks about, you know, the astronauts landing on the moon, encountering a whole slew of reptilian craft and the reptilians were standing next to their craft.
	It's a famous story that he tells.
	So this is the point.
	Reptilians and negative ETs are out there.
	The fight or the war of worlds has been going on for eons and eons.
	There are good ETs and bad ETs, just like there are good humans and bad humans.
	And this is an ongoing war of worlds that we on Earth are now.
	We've always been part of it.
	We've always gotten some blowback from it.
	It has a lot to do with our history.
	But now we're really deeply in it and we're becoming aware of it, which is even more impactful.
	So I don't see it as a bad thing.
	I see it as a good thing because we're becoming aware and everyone, like, I can actually talk to people about this, you know, like you guys, but, you know, we cannot hide our heads in the sand and eventually What is for humans is an ascension pathway where we actually, through frequency and through this awareness, this growing awareness and learning, we will
	Basically ascend out of the frequency that the reptilians and those kinds of negative ETs occupy, which generally speaking stops at four dimensions.
	Okay.
	Occasionally stuff goes up to six, but we're going to go up to six and beyond.
	So it's just very important to understand.
	It's not a dead end.
	It's an ongoing, you know, evolvement, if you will, or re-evolvement back to source.
	Wow.
	Thank you for that.
	Yeah.
	It's that pendulum effect, right?
	You know, I don't know.
	I can't remember if we talked about this before we recorded or not, but the idea that nature seeks balance, it's not necessarily about right and wrong.
	We need contrast, right?
	You can only know the light to the degree that you've experienced the dark and vice versa.
	The idea, if you eliminate one, you You know, the terrain is obscured.
	You don't have an experience any longer.
	So I think, to some degree, that balance is entirely important.
	Well, the light illuminates the dark, and in the end of the day, it's a yin and yang universe, and probably multiverse, but definitely a system of polarities here on Earth.
	But you don't want the pendulum swinging, you know, way out here.
	You want it This is peace.
	You want to keep it, you know, this is a war of worlds but, you know, it's like anything.
	You can't completely eliminate your enemy because they are still part of the multiverse and they, they're, you know, one enemy will be replaced with another and that's where AI comes in because it turns out that The Reptilians and Draco and a lot of these ETs that are negative are actually run behind the scenes by an AI.
	How are they run?
	They were taken over and that's actually what's happening to us.
	They're trying to take us over the same way.
	The AI... Inoculations, etc.? ?
	Yes, we have Alien AI.
	I mean, you guys wanted to start.
	Maybe we should just do another show sometime soon about AI, because we were going to talk about AI.
	We didn't get to it.
	I think I've been on this show for quite a while.
	So I think we should come back to this.
	We would love to have you back.
	Okay, but I'm just saying that there's lots to say about AI, so I can't get it all out right this minute.
	Right, I understand.
	I think that maybe I've given you and the listeners enough to deal with right now.
	Absolutely.
	We can set the stage and definitely come back and talk.
	I mean, I've got a slew of stuff about it.
	I love it.
	I can't wait.
	We would love, you know, we are in about an hour and a half and then we can get into Donald Marshall stuff in the next time.
	Oh yeah, and cloning and that.
	And by the way, Juan talked on those two interviews about cloning, so he's getting into stuff.
	And those are both on your channel, correct?
	No, those have nothing to do with me.
	Those are interviews, one with Tom Numbers guy, and you know, like I said, Juan won't talk to me.
	So, Tom Numbers is recent, but I put both interviews on my telegram and talk about them.
	And the other one is with Lewis Herms, which was actually a few days ago.
	Which is a very good interview, too, in which Lewis asks good questions because he's a patriot who is basically a white hat and very up to speed on everything.
	So that's why, one, he still frustrates Lewis, right?
	Yeah.
	Because Lewis asked him questions and he just, not to save his life, will Juan answer directly, but he does it on purpose.
	He's, you know, he is trying to, you gotta understand who Juan is.
	If you really understood who he is and how brilliant he is, and by the way, the fact that he has above cue clearance, and I have had this Told to me, proved to me, okay, in various ways, and therefore he is basically a general or equal to or above generals.
	You can wrap your mind around that.
	He's also vice president of the United States right now, but that's a whole other matter.
	But that depends on which one we're... Well, I'm talking about John F. Kennedy, George.
	Right, the real one, but... That's the real one.
	But sometimes the non-real Juan will be on these interviews, right?
	Well, that's a question whether or not that ever happens, okay?
	I'm not completely convinced that the other one ever does interviews.
	I think he shows up.
	He's at the places wherever Juan shows up in person.
	He wears the disguise.
	They play a little Shifting cards or whatever you call that, and so on and so forth.
	But I'm not completely convinced the other guy, even though he's extremely intelligent and probably can carry on a conversation.
	I just don't think he can have the mannerisms and the vibe that the real one does.
	I've listened very carefully.
	Now, I could be wrong.
	There could be one or two appearances where they substituted the guy.
	I actually know, also an experience, Which sounds like you might have been at the conference.
	You guys went to Anaheim, right?
	The Truth Tour?
	Well, Juan appeared there, but he also at the same time was in Texas.
	Oh, I don't think I knew that.
	So I don't know which Juan you met with, and I don't know if he just came late.
	Or, you know what I'm saying?
	This kind of stuff is going on.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, that helps clarify.
	I got that from a friend who was at the conference.
	There is so much left to talk about, and I can't wait until I get to do this again.
	I want to talk about Sophia.
	Yes.
	With regard to the AI.
	Sure.
	Maybe get into CERN.
	And some of these other topics, but thank you so much.
	I'll tell you, this is definitely one of my favorite interviews.
	Yeah, and I know that you're going to put this up on your channel, but first for our viewers... I can wait for you guys if you'd like, you know, whatever you want.
	Oh, we'd be thrilled.
	So first for our viewers, can you please tell people where to find you and all your information, and we'll do the same for your viewers.
	So please go ahead.
	Sure.
	Okay, so I'm at projectcamelotportal.com.
	ProjectCamelot.tv or ProjectCamelot.org.
	And the reason I have three URLs is because we're banned in certain places like Germany.
	And so we had to create all these URLs to bypass these sensors.
	Also, I put almost all my shows right away on Rumble.
	That's first line of defense.
	However, recently they banned the miles johnson interview they wouldn't let me upload it they finally did it took like two or three days to upload it they were blocking me clearly and they've been messing with me since then as well so i'll go and it'll tell me that there's no such urls as rumble.com I mean, they do all kind of crazy shit.
	And so I used my old, I have this old YouTube channel kicking around that I never use because every time I post anything, I get a strike.
	I already have a strike on it.
	I don't use it, but now I just put Miles's interview on there and I don't know if they're deaf, dumb and blind over there or they just think that that person who is me is not me and is not a person worth watching.
	So they haven't caught on yet.
	I'm sure they're going to catch on.
	It'll disappear.
	At some point I'll get a strike.
	I really could care less because I'm done with YouTube.
	So done.
	Yeah.
	But just saying, and I also have odyssey.com.
	I try to put all my stuff on there, but understand this is what happened.
	I got banned from YouTube overnight.
	Because of one sentence that Robert David Steele said in an interview that was not about COVID whatsoever, but they went in and at midnight, and even psychically, I had put it on what you call unlisted, so technically it wasn't public, but they gave me a strike anyway and shut down my entire channel after Like 17 years of being a YouTube director, a YouTube creator, and like one of their originals, okay?
	And I had 70 million viewers on that channel, and 361 or whatever it was subscribers, and I had over a thousand videos.
	So when that happened, I was making money on advertising to pay my bills.
	So since then, I became subscriber-based.
	It's the price of a latte.
	Once a month, $3 a month to join and you support my work and the work of my webmaster when I have one.
	And that's it.
	Wonderful.
	Well, we appreciate that.
	And we totally relate to it.
	We just got a second.
	Okay, so but everything I do is free.
	And there's a whole library of stuff that I did before this happened to me on YouTube.
	So I kept that library as free forever.
	And that is on Odyssey.com and on my website.
	So there's a whole, about a thousand videos that are completely free, always have been free and always will be free.
	So, but it's everything I've done since then, which is since the year, I think it's 2020.
	That what happens is I do an interview like this one will always be free because it's your interview not mine.
	But if I do an interview it will be out there for like a month or two free and then it goes behind the paywall.
	That's how we do it to make it as easy as possible for people.
	Well, thank you for that.
	And we're Truthstream with Joe and Scott, primarily on Rumble.
	We do have a YouTube channel that currently has a couple strikes.
	We have a BitChute channel.
	We are on TikTok, we're on Telegram, we're on Truthsocial.
	So yeah, if you just type in Truthstream with Joe and Scott, then you can find us anywhere.
	Brent, primarily on Rumble, all of our interviews, we're going to have a whole slew of where to find us, but we really appreciate you.
	I can't even believe I'm having... I never even thought a couple years ago I'd even be having a conversation like this with you guys and especially...
	Thank you so much for being a warrior for the last nearly two decades on this subject matter and for helping Scott as well have these conversations and feel a little more sane and talking to me about these subject matters.
	But you know what?
	I think when people realize And I never really understood this earlier.
	How much evil there is in the world, then they can start understanding more about why all this stuff goes on.
	Because it does sound crazy.
	It sounds insane.
	But when you realize what's really going on, it helps people understand more about our world.
	So thank you, Carrie, so much.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I've enjoyed it.
	And it's great to talk to people that really are up to speed.
	Good, good.
	I'm looking forward to the next one.
	We could dig a little deeper.
	All right.
	All right.
	Take care.
	We'll talk to you soon.
	All right.

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