KERRY INTERVIEWED BY JOURNEY TO TRUTH RE: SECRET SPACE
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Without further ado, we are joined once again by Keri Cassidy.
She was with us.
Man, I never remembered to look up the episode number.
Do you remember, Aaron?
It was about a year or two ago.
50-something, I want to say.
50-something.
Okay, so it was a while ago.
Yeah, so Carrie joined us a while ago.
It's been a long time.
A lot has happened since then.
It was three years ago.
I do remember that.
Wow.
Three years ago.
Three years ago.
Time flies.
Time flies.
So, we're really excited to talk with Carrie again.
She has an Egypt trip coming up that Aaron is going to be going on with her, so that's really cool.
They'll be hanging out for a couple weeks there.
But right now we're going to talk about some of the crazy happenings that are taking place around the globe right now, including the financial, quote, crisis that we're in right now.
Might be engineered, might be manufactured.
We're going to get Carrie's thoughts on that.
So welcome to the show, Carrie.
Thanks.
Glad to be here.
Yeah, we're glad to have you back.
Yeah.
So what is your opinion right now?
This financial collapse, obviously, this has been kind of imminent.
Everyone's been waiting for this.
It's been predicted by numerous people.
A lot of people think it's like the manufactured crisis.
So people panic pool their money and like really crash the economy so they can usher in the digital currency.
But this could also be like a white hat operation as well.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I actually think that this is a Dark Hat operation at the moment to actually challenge the White Hats and their QFS that they want to roll out, but they've been, let's say, slow to do so.
And because their agenda involves taking down the Dark Side, the New World Order, Deep state, call it what you will.
And in a certain sense, they can't, I don't think they can finally accomplish that until Trump is back in office or he's still in office because of COG, but unless he comes forward.
So that's the big kind of coup de gras as far as I'm concerned.
And what looks like it's happening right now is that.
With the attacks across the United States last week and, you know, the week before, I mean, it started with the balloons.
So these are invasionary tactics attacks on the United States on the surface, you know, various places.
Ohio obviously was a predominant 1, but there's been lots of.
Train derailments, all kinds of craziness going on, and even for the past year, food processing plants, things like that, interrupting the distribution network or aiming to do so, or starting to do so.
So, I think that what's happened is that with the sort of, you could say with the white hat agenda looming over their heads, they are now jump starting their digital.
Um, global reset and I think this was the first shot across the bow.
They, they obviously rescued, uh, you know, the, um, SVB bank, but, uh, there's no guarantee that other banks that go down will also be rescued.
I think that people should keep that in mind.
I also think that what they're doing in part is to wrap the smaller fish up into the bigger whales.
And so that even if you looked at the trends right now in the financial world, a lot of people are shifting out of regional banks as we speak and into the bigger banks.
So I think that's intentional.
I think that's what they want to see happen.
And I think in part, because they need to consolidate before they actually.
wheel out their digital, you know, currency, digital agenda.
So, I really think that this is made to put pressure on the White Hats.
Now, I could have that completely wrong.
God knows the White Hats have been acting like the Black Hats and the Black Hats have been acting like the White Hats.
So, it's like crazy making, really.
But this is kind of what I Figured out and talking to financial experts and so on who more or less are agreeing with me.
There are certain signposts that tell us that this is happening.
And again, the shift now, there's also a very interesting shift that's happening as we speak, or was earlier this morning, which is a lot of people are moving into crypto as a sort of a shield against the takedown of the banks, any further instability there.
And I don't think that this current patch, so to speak, on the economy or on the banks that they're crediting Biden with to make him look like some kind of hero when he's anything but.
Right.
As a fact, he's not even a person, you know, that's a very clear person.
They think he is he's just actors and so on.
So.
We're really looking at them, I think, in the last few weeks again, with these attacks with the balloons with everything that's going on escalation.
Now on top of it there's a war scenario going on in which we are first of all we're bankrupt so don't tell me how we're sending billions to Ukraine because that's a mystery in and of itself but nonetheless we are and so or supposedly are and you know I mean if you look at the whole situation with Currency in general.
The whole thing, the banking thing has been a scam, and you go back to the Jekyll Island book, and you look at, you know, I even put some stuff on my telegram about that recently.
Right, they explain how the banks don't own any money themselves.
It's all, they're lent money, they lend you money, and they make money.
It's all a Ponzi scheme, it's a giant Ponzi scheme.
It's a giant Ponzi scene.
So, yeah.
So, I mean, end of the day, the other thing they have been doing is this quantitative easing that's been going on for years, even since 2008, when the banks are also going to go down back then.
So they basically are pumping money into the system.
Then, I did an earlier show today, I likened it to a running horse.
So the horse is running and that's all the money that they're pumping into the system and then they take a rope And that's the interest rate, and they try to rein in the very thing they created by raising interest rates, which is insanity itself.
And Trump said that in a recent statement.
So, yeah, so that's kind of where I'm going with it.
And then Trump also said, I put this on my telegram earlier, I guess yesterday, he made a statement yesterday, basically saying, repeating what he'd said a few years prior, which was that if Biden was elected, we would go into a depression.
Worse than 1929 a crash and so on.
So that statement was he reiterated that statement yesterday, which blew my mind.
And then on top of it, they put he put on the channel on telegram was this.
statement that he made a couple years ago when Biden was forced into office, let's say, with the fake CCP backing and MI6 and so on.
So this, the digital steel.
So this is going on, this is what's happening.
Now, think about the Illuminati being They know clearly the agenda of the White Hats, which is to take them down and to take the system that they've built down.
If you know that's about to happen to you, you know, it's really a race between two different financial systems, between two systems altogether.
And so the White Hat operation is tactically Even saying so publicly that they're going to take them down and they're going to destroy their system.
And that involves things like market crashes, but it sadly, it seems to also include some kind of prolonged.
Very uncomfortable situation for most of the United States, if not the rest of the world, since we're all connected.
So, um, I, I don't personally think that's a great way to go.
I think you can build, you know, you can bring in the new without.
You know, destroying the old completely, especially when it's like a ship you're all riding on.
Yeah, well, there's the advisable.
Right, and I mean, there's the belief that it has to collapse in order to usher in something new, because like they say, you can't fix something that was designed broken in the first place.
Well, you're not using the same elements, so it doesn't matter.
You know, if you just look at life in general, you know, you don't kill off the parents when the baby comes, you know?
Right.
The baby grows and, you know, in the midst at a certain point reaches a certain, you know, goes through puberty or whatever, and then gets to come as of age and then replaces the old guys.
But the old guys are still there.
You can't kill them all.
And so the fact of the matter, if you want to look at systems in a little more natural way, I don't think that taking down again.
If the foundation of what we ride on without really destroying lives, and I don't think that you're going to get voters out of the destruction.
For some reason, the white hat seemed to think if they take down the system, destroy it all, they're going to get votes out of that.
Maybe they're going to put all the blame on Biden, and that's the way they want it to look.
But anyone who kind of has half a brain, and if Trump even comes out, At some point, you know, this is going this whole story is going to out.
Okay, the cog, the continuity of government, the fact that we were invaded by the CCP and the takedown of the digital, you know, takedown of the election and all of this.
This is.
going to come out, okay, whether it comes out sooner or later.
So even the non-awake people will learn the real story.
The question is whether, you know, look at your situation.
Are you going to thank the White Hats for destroying your world, taking away your money, starving you to death, maybe killing you and your Friends and family in the process.
Okay.
In order to, to bring in a new system, I mean, you know, the cost may be too high.
That's and maybe that's just the wrong way to do it, but be that as it may, you know, we're, we're, we've got them, they're working in the resistance.
They're working to, you know, they want to save lives.
Apparently, you know, they want to rescue us.
Humanity from these dark straits that we've been in for thousands of years.
But again, one has to also look at the foundation of the... In a sense, the Earth is a ship.
We're riding on a ship.
If you destroy the foundations of the ship, the ship could sink altogether.
Or it could certainly... A lot of people could go overboard, so to speak, like the Titanic or whatever.
All I'm saying is that we have to examine what we're dealing with.
We're dealing with the dark side.
We're dealing with dark entities, you know, behind the dark side.
And we live together on this planet.
You can't, first of all, you can't kill them all.
You can't put them all in Gitmo.
There's not room.
You know, and they're not, they're probably not going to leave anytime soon.
And I know there are a lot of, you know, What I call white lighters that like to say, oh, you know, the reptilians have left the planet and all this nonsense.
I don't believe that for a second.
Um, so, I mean, there's also the, you know, we always, we know, like, the world they've created for us, the reality that they hand us is an illusion, ultimately.
Like, what's going on behind the scenes is completely different than what they tell us, the propaganda and their narrative.
I mean, we can analyze this based on the information that we're given, but there's a whole other layer that's going on of this war that we just don't see, that we really don't know.
That's why I find it very interesting.
You've talked to so many whistleblowers over the year, and you have some inside knowledge, I guess you can say, on what is happening behind the scenes.
How much of this taking place right now is actually related to off-world operations and the ET presence here on the planet?
And I kind of want to get into some of your thoughts on that.
I know you've talked to Mark Richards a lot, and he has some information about what's happening, so...
Sure.
Well, I actually posted on my Telegram, I think it was last night.
I was working late at night, so everything kind of merges together.
I'm not sure the timing, but I was ranting about the COVID and so it's there if you want to go to it and see what I had to say.
But I do that from time to time and just start writing on Telegram my thoughts.
A lot of time.
It happens around 3 o'clock in the morning.
So, basically, the idea here is that bottom line.
is and has been invaded by a number of E.T.
species, okay?
Off-world species.
And some of those species are controlled by what we call off-planet A.I.
And this is a whole story that obviously is being submerged, that's being, you know, covered up and kept away from the public.
But the reason I have special access to the story is through all the whistleblowers over 18 years of interviewing Some on the record and some off the record.
And I continue to gather evidence, really, every single day of my life.
And it all hangs together, like my understanding, my through line, my thesis, if you will, of what is happening, why it's happening and how it's happening.
So, The bottom line is that we are invaded by, first of all, the Draco, Reptilian, Grey contingent, and they are run, we have now found out, by an artificial intelligence that even has taken over other galaxies besides ours.
So, it is incoming here, and its, you know, its emissaries, if you will, are the Draco, Reptilian, and Greys, and the Greys in particular Are are quite insidious that it's not all gray races.
There's tons of gray races.
So understand that, but.
The certain negative graces, as they're called are ones that have come in that are in many ways, they're actually run totally and completely by and they take orders from the highest bidder is what Mark Richards used to say, which means whoever is the highest bidder at the time.
It could be.
It could even be the Pleiadians.
It could be the...
Anunnaki.
It could be, you know, the beings from Aldebaran.
The Greys will serve whoever orders them around, basically.
Well, they're PLFs, the Programmed Lifeforms.
Well, that's a division of the Greys.
Not all Greys are programmable lifeforms, but you could call, in the sense that they're run by AI, you could call, but then you'd have to call Draco that and Reptilians that.
I'm not so sure we're ready to do that yet, but It's possible.
It's it's a phrase, you know, it's a it's a deep state secret space programs phrase, but it is there are literally what I think of the programmable life forms is the ones we created because we created our secret space program.
The Air Force and the Secret Space Program has created our own type greys, okay?
That even look like their greys, you know what I'm saying?
So it depends what you're dealing with.
But nonetheless, they all are working on the dark side to carry out a certain basic invasion of planet Earth.
A takeover, a changing of our atmosphere.
So, this way of the climate change nonsense comes in Fukushima bringing in failed power plants that bring more radiation into the environment.
More of a methane-like environment, which is what they prefer.
They don't want oxygen.
They want to get rid of our carbon bodies.
They don't want carbon.
They want silicon.
So this is where the AI comes in.
This is where the nanographene oxide comes in as part of the VAX.
That whole program is a takeover program.
Biden is a takeover program.
He is run by the, you know, Grace and the AI.
The scientists in Wuhan, the scientists in the bio labs in Ukraine are all being trained and run, you know, to create like a Humanity 3.0.
To get rid of, there's tons of, you know, there's going to be fallout, there's going to be collateral damage.
They don't care about that.
But to create a being that is space worthy, that is bigger, better, faster, that can go out into outer space and conquer other planets and so on.
So it's a conquering Uh, scenario and the pleiadians back in the day, when I interviewed William Tompkins knew about this.
Okay.
And they, they came in to help with our secret space program on the positive side, the reptilians coming.
Being also involved with the Nazis came into our space program and actually tried to sabotage it.
So this is a scenario that goes on way beyond where we are right now.
We're just at a certain trajectory, but this takeover scenario has actually been coming into Earth.
If you look at the Ashiana Dean books, which I follow her work and have traveled with her, Met her in person, interviewed her as well.
And I've also gotten downloads from what are called the Guardian Races that work with her.
So I can say that a lot of that information in her books is excellent and true.
And it is depicting how we have been invaded by various races, not just the Draco, Reptilian and Greys, but it's called the Luciferian Rebellion in general.
Um, and a lot of times the beings that are involved in it are, um, they're feeding on us like parasites.
Okay.
And they're, you know, they're blood drinkers.
They feed on our glands, adrenochrome, that whole story, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Right.
And that's a great analysis.
And I, oh, sorry, Aaron, were you saying something?
No, the energy to luce energy.
So all the fear.
Sadness, uh, hatred, all these low vibrational energies.
That's why they, they perpetually want to keep us in those energies.
Um, constantly.
Right.
Giant loose farms.
Right.
Yeah.
And to be one giant loose farm that's continued, like they want to lock us down fully with the, with the AI and the transhuman and stuff so that we're like completely and completely enslaved.
And it's just a loose generating.
Right.
And it's, it's interesting, you know, we talk about all this stuff and I know like some of the, like, mainstream ufologists can't comprehend the secret space program because they're focused on like, well, where's the funding come from and stuff like that.
For one, slave labor.
Well, Catherine Austin Fitz explains very clearly where the funding comes from, but it comes from the usual suspects.
The CIA runs the drug program.
It runs the adrenochrome program.
It runs the human trafficking program.
This is where the funding comes from.
Those people, whoever they are, are completely idiots if they don't realize the channels through which funding comes.
Duh!
Right.
I mean, even our tax dollars, I mean, and money that's, you know, being raised or used to fund at NASA or SpaceX, that's being funneled into these programs as well.
A lot of these are covers and fronts for the Secret Space Program.
So, I mean, obviously, it's just something to consider because there's so much money.
Where is it all going?
How is an entire planet in debt unless it's going off world?
And they're using slave labor and once you're a full breakaway civilization you don't use money anymore in the way that we do at least.
It's kind of like money or barter, it doesn't matter.
But money relates to metals and metals there's a psychic AI link up to gold and to all the various precious gems and metals and crystals and so on.
So If you can kind of wrap your mind around that, that's all energetics that have to do with what we end up, we only end up with paper money, that's the fake part.
But the real part is, in essence, these substances, and this is where the AI comes in.
And in essence, you could say, because all of it has consciousness, and the consciousness is being Sort of commandeered and garnered by the AI that again is trying to make inroads to control our planet and us.
So, if they do it through those substances through metals, like again, nano graphing oxide is when they say is the strongest.
It's like a composite metal.
On the whole world, you know, that's the strongest substance.
So they that apparently is what they decided to rebuild our bodies using and Dr. David Adair talks about using the rebuilding of cells with the spike protein nano graphene oxide package that has been delivered through the backs, but also.
The nanographene oxide has been in our chemtrails, in our food, in our water, it's in our clothing.
It's, um, I did a whole presentation a couple, I think it was a couple years ago, all about this, um, based on some slides that I found on the Internet that some guy that disappeared had created that actually showed back then.
This was, they were built, made around, I think, 2010.
And I was just amazed at how Accurate it was for what we're doing understanding right now.
So this again, this is part of a, it's actually my mission.
To link up the dots to take these things that people think are separate.
Separated from each other and unrelated and show people how they're related and how they involve in an invasion of earth scenario.
This is very important because if you're being invaded, and you don't know your enemy, And you don't know that you're prey.
That's the situation that most humans are in that don't research like we do and look into all of it.
So this is the awakening project.
The awakening project is really about.
Uh, waking up our fellow humans to realize so they can protect themselves and their children against this invasion and teaching them how it's happening to them.
So I know the white hats don't even want to talk about the alien side of things yet.
But as far as I'm concerned.
You cannot ignore it.
In fact, we're at such a dire sort of straits at the moment that this has to be considered.
It has to be brought on board.
We have to talk openly about it.
Right.
I mean, that's what we don't know.
You can't fight them.
You nailed it.
You have to understand your enemy.
If you don't know your enemy, you can't fight them.
That's a great quote.
It's so true.
Because everything is connected.
Like you said, even though it might seem like they're not related, everything is related.
Incredibly.
Incredibly, yeah, exactly.
It's interesting, you mentioned the chemtrails earlier, and how, you know, the graphene oxide is in the chemtrails, it's also in the jab, and it's like they've been prepping us for this for years, you know, just raining this stuff down upon us and the planet, and then with the jab, along with the virus, it's like this perfect trifecta that ushers in like that transhumanism, right?
So it's really apparent Yeah, I mean, the chemtrail story is more complex than only the graphene oxide, because it involves all kinds of, I mean, Clifford Carnicom is a person, a scientist who got together a whole team to analyze the particulates of the chemtrails.
Many years ago, and there, I think they're still operational.
I think they had a headquarters in Arizona, but at any rate, you know, there's a lot of programs that have been launched as part of the chemtrails and.
There is a side to it that also has to do with creating a dome in which our sort of space program can detect incoming foreign objects and craft and so on.
So there's, you could say, a semi-positive side or protective side involved in the chemtrails as well, interestingly.
Also, they put some particulates of gold and uranium Everything, all these different things.
Incredible.
Just as they did, by the way, into the Vax, putting toxins, bacteria, actually poisonous substances that are poisonous to us.
And what I was writing about the other day was the fact that what does that do when you take in a poison?
You, your body, again, your immune system would kick in, like, jump way up, right, to combat that incoming foreign, that foreign stuff that could damage you.
But at the same time, they shoot in with the VACs, they're shooting in this package, this nanographene oxide package, with the spike proteins and the lipid nanoparticles and all this.
So they're actually, at the same time, In invading yourselves.
So at the same time that your body is reacting to the foreign objects, fighting, fight or flight, you know, that kind of situation.
And this is also where it's, it's been said to me that it's all triggered by the way, by our, our temperature, our 98.6 body temperature and higher.
So that's why you get a lot of athletes dying on the field because their temperature has risen.
And all of this starts activating and this is the, the war that your body is conducting.
It's a, it's a, it's an amazing concoction, but again, this is again, being it's coming through and I credit, you know, Captain Mark Richards, Cyrus, Parsa, David to dare with explaining to me.
How this is is basically being rolled out through it's actually through computers that the AI comes into scientists and scientists download these recipes, if you will, for these bio weapons that are not really we call them bio weapons, but but they're in essence.
They're all about creating a humanity 3.0.
So it's not just to kill people.
So I think that's a really important thing to know.
It's a transhuman agenda.
If your body can't handle it, they figure, you know, you're not worth keeping around.
You might as well just go.
Well, they need us.
As much as they hate us, they still need us.
And that's why they can't just kill us all off.
I mean, obviously, they want to depopulate us.
Well, yes, they need a certain number of us.
But, you know, again, that's also gotten to be, you know, we could disagree or sort of delve into the actual, you know, numbers of humans that, let's say, humans that they'll allow to live, regular humans that don't get vaxxed and aren't linked to the Borg, will probably be extremely limited.
But you can bet a lot of those will be just children and when they get to a certain age, you know, assuming they're not eaten and completely depleted, they'll be killed, you know, because this is again, it's a very, you kind of have to take yourself out of the emotionality of hearing this type of thing.
If this is the 1st time you've heard it and start to understand that you have to get into the mentality of the enemy.
To understand, again, who you're fighting.
It doesn't matter if I, you know, like it or don't want to look at it or, you know.
But you can't, in this situation, as you can see with the whole COVID rollout, you're not even allowed to close your eyes and put your head in the sand.
You've got to look at it, you know.
And they made it such that, you know, a lot of the lockdowns had to do with the incubation period for the vacs, believe it or not.
That's what I was told by whistleblower.
And he also told me that there's, um, you know, they have, well, at the time he talked to me was, he said there were 200 variations on the so-called backs, but by now they probably got 2000 or more.
Um, so.
I was just talking on another show about the fact that they supposedly the Chinese have been locked down incubation period.
Anyone.
And now they're being let out and coming over to our shores and these people are probably carriers of the next version of the bioweapon or, you know, transhuman agenda weapon.
So, yeah, so this is, you know, I don't know how much I've talked to you.
I really don't remember the last time we talked.
I don't remember what we talked about either.
So, I just don't want to repeat myself, but I do want to say that I believe that this kind of thing... See, when a civilization like humans gets to a certain level where our awareness and our vibrations, our frequency is rising,
At a certain point, we rise out of what you call 4D and move into 5 and 6D, and we get out of the clutches of these really diabolical lower level entities, which is the Draco reptilians and greys and the Illuminati, who basically mirror them with the blue buds and so on.
In other words, we're gonna be out of their reach soon.
So they're escalating their attacks on us and their takeover attempts to keep us down here to keep us down on a lower level vibration and frequency level.
So what's also happening at the same time is that because our consciousness is raising rising so much that everyone needs to be aware and starts to become aware anyway of their sort of you might say superpowers that we are given by the creator that's part of this body soul complex that we have actually not explored
In the main, and this gets into what they call junk DNA and activating that and changing, they're trying to, you know, interfere and change your genome before you even get to that place.
So.
This is a very, you know, it's kind of like, if you're watching a movie, you know, this 1 side does that and 1 side does that and then it keeps escalating and pretty soon you're in this incredible crisis and crescendo in which who's going to win and.
I just say that Creator and all the beings that are on our side, who were involved with the creation of the bodies that we, we're already spirit.
We're already here.
You know, we come from source and return to source as far as I'm concerned, but the bodies were built.
to withstand all of this onslaught, believe it or not.
And this is why we have such an incredible immune system and why they have to keep trying to roll out things to deaden our immune system.
Bad food, bad water, you name it, bad lighting, all of that.
So they wouldn't have to work so hard if we were already, you know, fragile and going to die and disappear off the It would be game over a long time ago if we weren't.
The reason they have to poison us from every angle and do all these different things and it's taking so long is because of how powerful and how amazing we are.
And our bodies are, yeah.
Our adaptability is incredible to the environment.
I mean, other ETs will come here and they wouldn't be able to survive on the surface.
You know, we're living in a poison environment in all aspects at this point.
And it's amazing that we're even able to survive and even thrive in some cases.
So, I mean, that says a lot about our genetics and our DNA.
And I definitely, like what you called superpowers, like the force in Star Wars, like that's real.
Like we're capable of things like that.
And I think that's the next step.
What is it?
Humans are considered genetic royalty throughout the galaxy.
I believe that's Alex Collier and others talk about that because we have so many different ET race genetics and because of what we just talked about.
For sure.
So, you know, so it's not all bad.
Now, what does happen is that when you're put in a pressurized situation, your sort of superpowers, and this is Illuminati also now, come to the fore.
So as we're even, we're like in a pressure cooker, okay?
And our abilities are starting to come more and more to the surface, and more and more of our sisters and brothers are experiencing this.
They may not even know the things we know, you know what I'm saying?
But they still, you know, they're learning, they can move objects, they can change reality around them, they can, you know, everything is, as far as I'm concerned, and I've studied also the occult and the Illuminati principles and so on.
I can tell you that everything is sensate, that this universe, you know, that this table here that's holding my computer is aware.
It's made of wood, okay?
Even computers can be influenced, and I talk about how AI can be influenced through the etheric, and we humans go into the etheric.
We go into it when we sleep, when we meditate, etc.
So we can influence them, the negative side.
To come around to our way of thinking.
This is how I think this is ultimately going to be the battle that comes to the fore here on earth is that humans are going to take back our sovereignty and we'll do it through the coupling of the mind and the heart in essence and doing it even in the world of the etheric as opposed to the material world that we see around us.
essentially forced their hand.
I mean, it's... Yeah, and if not, you know, when you're influenced, you have to understand that the word influence, and by the way, a long time ago, in learning about how these various ET races look, you know, act, and think, one of the things they talked about was the fact that what we call war, this thing, shoot them up with guns, is not how they take over a civilization.
They actually come in They try to merge with the current population and then they try to influence it again through the etheric and through the element of mind and whatever else they have at their disposal.
We generate scalar waves.
That's part of our abilities.
And so we can actually, we can, we can do negative things with it and we can do positive things with it.
But we can definitely fight the negative with using those, our ability to direct scalar waves from our body.
And part of this gets into also the activation of Kundalini.
So those of us who have activated the Kundalini to a certain degree have much more of these sort of access to this power.
But it's and the reason they go for the adrenochrome is because they haven't developed this older people and they're desperate for it.
That's why they look so old and wrinkled and everything like that.
And so in kids and children, and especially in teenagers, they manufacture this Kundalini energy, which is in the West called orgone.
wilhelm reich and orgone and you can learn about that uh so we basically that's what you can throw you know when you throw chi you're throwing orgone or kundalini you're actually and it's also called by the way a lot of people are now using the word for real in a very negative sense but actually it's just an infinite source of power yeah yeah it's an amazing
it's like the same as chi the same as or these are terms for the same kind of energies It might be a little different levels of the energy, but it's still the same stuff.
So we have this ability to throw and change in the environment.
You know, you've been in a situation maybe where you were in a life death situation, or you've heard about women, they can rip a car door off a car, you know, suddenly, because that's what we're talking about.
When you put your energy out there, you can do amazing things.
Exactly.
It all comes down to awakening to our true power and then accessing it.
That's what's going to win this.
That's why awakening is the key to everything.
And I think, unfortunately, you know, a lot of people need things to get hard to a certain degree to to awake to start awakening snap them out of realize wait a second there's something else going on than i'm being told in this reality you know like start there and then and then waking up to just the true nature of themselves and the true nature of reality and then realizing that um your power is within you
it's not external from you like we're taught it's you're taught your power is external everything external has power over you it's It's actually the exact opposite. - Exactly.
It's an inside job on both sides.
The dark comes in, they infiltrate from the inside out, and we do the same thing.
Literally from the inside out.
It's a spiritual war on all levels.
War for your mind, body, soul.
You mentioned mind control earlier.
That's largely how they're doing this.
I want to shift gears just a little bit because I've noticed this.
So what we see right now, we have these whistleblowers coming forward for the past 15, 18 years, right?
And some of them are starting to...
Self-sabotage, and even destroy their own testimony and change their story.
And I'm thinking, okay, this isn't coincidence.
This is the new way to kill a whistleblower.
They don't need to kill them anymore.
They mind control them, so they destroy their own testimony and discredit themselves in the entire subject they were whistleblowing.
And it's far more effective to do that to these whistleblowers now than just kill somebody.
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, that's going on for sure.
I think it's been going on for a long time.
You know, there used to be sort of a syndrome that we didn't talk a lot about, but in Camelot, where I would interview somebody and they would be totally positive.
In fact, it still happens.
Totally positive, into everything, talking to me, telling me the truth, blah, blah, blah.
They get off the show, And maybe it'd be a week.
Maybe sometimes it was even like a day.
And all of a sudden they would call me up and they tell me they hate me.
They never want to talk to me again.
They, you know, take down their testimony, threaten me, all this kind of crazy shit.
That was a syndrome that went on all the time with a lot of the whistleblowers.
But, you know, we had a policy that we wouldn't remove a video.
We just didn't.
And I guess I won't name the various ones who said these things to me and that tried to threaten me in various ways.
But some of them then a few, like a month or two later, a few months later, would then come to me and apologize, try to get on my good side again.
Some of them wanted to come on the show again, you know.
This is absolutely a syndrome.
And it's understandable because if you look at the milieu that we live in, It's not like they get reinforcement for telling the truth.
Actually, they get threatened.
They have family members that are threatened.
For example, Henry Deacon was one of our whistleblowers going back 17 years.
I mean, even more than 17.
And what he told us a whole ton of stuff, excellent stuff that actually is coming true today.
Okay, there's still actually you can go back and read about it.
He basically said what would be happening now.
And he that he contacted me at one point this is like several years later and said he wanted us to take down the solar warden information that all of all his testimony he's like take that down uh i was wrong i shouldn't have said it blah blah blah and basically i told him no um so then he was not happy right but the trouble is is that
It's often the case that they will come to you, and Pete Peterson did something similar.
He said, you know, David Wilcox and me and Bill Ryan, all three of us, flew to Idaho, spent a whole weekend with him.
On the Monday, he sat down and did interviews with each of us, and he said, of all the interviews, yours is the worst.
You just take it down.
It's really embarrassing to you, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And then I knew that that was the best one.
Are they being threatened after they give the interview?
truths, which indeed he did and, and so on.
And, and like, this is what they do.
It's, it's like, you can see through it.
Okay.
It's so fucking obvious.
Okay.
But are they being threatened after they give the interview and that's what, or is it more of a mind control thing?
Oh, he was told by the Pentagon and by, you know, he told me I lost him, you know, important jobs that would have paid him tons of money because of his inventions and all of this And it was all my fault.
He's the one that did the interview.
Well, I mean, that's part of the mind control.
This is really what goes on.
I mean, I've even, you know, had my life threatened and stuff.
I mean, it does go on.
But, you know, when you embark on this mission, you really have to, for some reason, I can't say why, but we were positioned and our headspace was absolutely In the same space at the time when we first met Bill Ryan and me, and we wanted to get the truth out.
That was absolutely our drive and we wanted to do it through witness testimony, but especially about the secret space program.
So that was the area of, you know, really concentration.
Unfortunately, of course, and you could say that Bill Ryan was taken over or mind controlled in the end, or maybe he just had sort of a judgmental.
So if you have a judgmental personality, and you want to sort of be the judge and jury of another human being, and you want to assign them to hell, you know, like that, like you're the devil or whatever it is, you know, that's, The total wrong approach, obviously.
So you really have to come home to the idea that if you make a promise to a whistleblower that you're not going to reveal their identity, then by God, you better stand by it.
And, you know, I was trained as a journalist, and this is like the center.
It's the central theme of what we do is that, yes, people will talk to us, All kinds of people will talk to us, but if they don't want their identity revealed, then we can never violate that pact.
Yeah.
Right.
And that's a great way to approach it.
I mean, you have to ethics and morality here, and as soon as you start going against that, you're becoming the very thing you're fighting.
Exactly.
Right.
I mean, There's no doubt in my mind that a lot of this stuff, a lot of these people are being threatened or mind controlled too.
Understandably.
You know, I have, let me say that I have been, Anthony Sanchez is an example.
He came, he lived in Northern California at the time I lived in Southern California.
He came in person.
We did, it was practically an all-day interview.
It was amazing.
And he got in his car.
He drove back home.
He put his car in the garage.
He locked his car.
He rolled up the windows the whole nine yards.
He went in with his family.
He had a family with little kids and whatnot.
And in the morning he woke up.
He went into his garage and in the inside of the window was a note that basically said, if you release the interview you did with Kerry Cassidy, your family will die.
He called me up, he told me about the threat, and we've never released it.
Okay, so there are instances in which before the interview got out with the whistleblower's blessings, let's say, We were told that kind of thing.
And in that case, and then I was also called by an agent who reiterated the exact same thing.
So this was very serious.
And even since that day, Anthony has never talked in depth about this project, which is called Project Leonid.
You know, it's also interesting, I remember an old interview with you and James Cassbolt and Max Spears, and I remember you specifically questioning James, wondering if you were interviewing one of his alters.
You're like, I'm not talking to the same person I was talking to before.
So we also have, you know, people being triggered into alters, which is another form of mind control.
So there's so many layers to this.
For sure.
And what they're capable of is endless.
The technologies that are used to operate, you know, help these programs function, they're being used to also silence them too.
Right.
Right.
Really quick, before we wrap this up, just because it's really popular on Netflix right now, they have the new documentary about the Missy Malaysia flight.
And I know there's a lot of whistleblower information about what actually happened to that flight, how it was rerouted to Diego Garcia.
I didn't know if you wanted to help our audience or anyone else understand what might have actually happened with that flight.
Well, back when that whole thing happened, I did shows and I did interviews about that.
I wrote articles also, so you could kind of do a search, probably for MH, whatever the number is, I forget, on my site and probably come up with that stuff.
Bottom line is it's kind of a complex story and I haven't yet watched the documentary or so-called documentary that they're putting out.
I kind of doubt that they're going to cover some of the things I know about it.
They don't.
About the super, you know, coders that were on the flight.
You know what I'm talking about?
And basically that it was taken down because they were, they had Supposedly been building what is called the central chip, the Skynet chip.
And even back in the day, Pete Peterson considered he built the original Sky chip, centralized command, which command and control.
So it was, it did have to do with that.
It had to do with I'm trying to remember the name of the or of the company.
It's it's not I don't think it's not Hughes, but it's a promise promise or no.
And, and, you know, the rights were owned by Rockefeller, by the way, to this thing.
And it was also.
Went back to Israel to this company that is a subsidiary of another company.
And, um, you know, it's been a while Douglas.
I don't know, I forget the, you know, the details because it's been so long, but.
Anyway, it's a huge story.
Yeah.
And it is typical of what goes on with this kind of thing, you know, that.
They, they will okay.
One of the things they did with the people that were on the plane, I don't know if they're covering this, is they take them to Diego Garcia, they mind control them, they wipe their minds, and then they let them loose, believe it or not.
In the cities, especially the kind of chaotic cities, you know, like in India and various places.
And they basically become homeless people wandering around.
Right.
And they don't have their memories.
And this is how they deal with them.
Rather than kill them outright, supposedly.
Okay, so that's one scenario that happened to those people.
But yeah, I mean, you know, there are all kinds of games.
It's a branch of Motorola, a Freescale semiconductor with its head office in Israel.
Yes, so Freescale is the main company.
And the subsidiary, I guess, was Motorola.
And I want to be careful here, because I know a certain person who is heavily involved in that country, company.
But yeah, so it's really very fascinating to kind of go down those roads and see where in the tech industry certain things are.
It actually works with the Secrets Base program.
In fact, I know we're wrapping this up just very quickly.
Let me say that the Silicon Valley Bank.
is not an uh a sort of uh target with no not a mindless target this was absolutely the target because it is directly connected with the innovation and the and the ceding to to humanity if you will um that the inventions and the stuff they use in the secret space program underground and you know in bases and so on so forth it's said that it's more than 10 000 years You know, ahead of our surfacer.
The targeting of this main Palo Alto company, the bank, where Silicon Valley funnels its resources for all the startups and the innovation is not accidental, okay?
It was like hitting a nerve, if you will.
So, yes, they're rescuing that.
I guess they're rescuing the billionaire people as well.
I mean, they can't...
They can't let it fail, that entity.
But I do believe that they're going to swallow it up into a larger entity, as I was saying in the early part of this interview.
Right.
Just saying that target is not accidental.
Very important.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, that's where William Tompkins said a lot of the think tanks were for the Secret Space Program in the early days.
I mean, it's been the hub for a lot of that stuff.
Well, the Rand Institute in Santa Monica, yeah.
Right.
One of the main hubs.
SRI in Stanford, also huge, huge.
As well as Tavistock Institute in Great Britain.
Right, and that's the main, major mind control comes from there, all those tactics.
So, I don't know if you're familiar with Mark DiMizio, he's a Secret Space Program whistleblower who was stationed at Diego Garcia, and he said he was there when the Malaysia flight was rerouted there, and they actually, some of the bodies were actually, they killed a lot of the
um passengers and they literally said they were literally throwing the dead bodies down to blow up slide down the side of the plane and it was his job along with some others to literally put these bodies in like a cart and wheel them off uh so that's just another aspect another layer to what happened uh there you know those bodies were also put on that subsequent flight that went over uh i think it was was it ukraine uh somewhere you know that country next to russia
Georgia?
No, it was, I guess it was shot down over Ukraine.
So that was, you're talking about MH317?
370, yeah.
And then there's another plane, a subsequent incident that happened that actually Putin ordered to have the plane shut down.
But the plane was full of dead bodies and that supposedly in body bags that came from MH17, 317.
Oh, wow.
So I've never heard that aspect of it.
Yeah, I mean, this is, it gets deep.
I mean, and what it's, the lengths they'll go to to create these narratives is wild, but.
Right, yeah.
So thank you so much for joining us today.
Is there anything you have coming up that you'd like to let our audience know about or how they can find you or follow you?
Well, yeah, go to ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
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And that's really, since I was banned on YouTube, For telling the truth, you know, this is the main way we make money.
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The reason we have more than one URL is because we're banned.
We started to get banned in certain countries, like parts of Germany, for example.
Right.
And then obviously also Telegram, you're active on there every day.
Very active every day on Telegram.
I post all kinds of stuff and it doesn't mean I agree with it, but it does mean I think it's worth taking a look at.
In fact, I could totally disagree with whatever it is, but I think it's really important to look at the light and the dark.
And then on top of it, on the front page of my website at the top are all my social media.
So I'm on Truth Social.
I'm on Twitter.
I was banned from Twitter for a couple years and then I opened another, a ProtonMail website.
So I'm Kale Cassidy on Twitter.
And I've had that for about a little over a year, I think now, maybe more.
And so I don't have a lot of subscribers on my Twitter because again, you know, they took me down.
I mean, they took me down off YouTube.
I had at that time, I had 70 million viewers and 312,000 subscribers.
And we basically lived on advertising at that time from YouTube, even though they take half your profits.
And then a couple of days later, Vimeo.
Took down all my conference footage was selling on Vimeo and they took it all down.
So we did put everything back on our website so you can search in the search bar and Odyssey.com sucked up my YouTube channel.
Mostly.
Not all of it, though.
They sucked up about 875 videos.
I had a lot of videos because I'd been fighting with YouTube for two years before they took me down.
You know, hiding stuff, putting it on unlisted, giving me a strike, then I have to wait for a couple months, and then I would get another strike, and then, you know, I'd be ready to get you know, band and so on and so forth.
So it was like a game.
So I would put something on YouTube, then I would hide it, so-and-so.
It became, so there were a number of videos, probably around 200 that were not included in the Odyssey.
Those are on my website.
And also all of the new stuff has gone on to Odyssey as well as Rumble.
So Rumble is where you can go for all the most recent stuff and my website for everything.
And if you subscribe, you get every everything.
So we have around 1,000 videos, at least, maybe 1,200 now on Odyssey that are completely free.
That's the Camelot Library, as I call it.
So just to know that.
And I recommend, I recently shared, I love how you compile all the Mark Richard interviews, and I've shared that link with a number of people.
I highly recommend people go back and watch all of those.
There's 12 interviews you've done, not, well, he's not on camera.
It's either with his wife, and you're just relaying your recall from your interview with him in prison.
Those are great.
It's a great source of information.
Absolutely.
Do you have any plans in contacting him again?
Yes, during the whole COVID thing, they locked down the prison.
You weren't able to go.
So I haven't really seen him in several years.
I also, you know, what happened was I have moved and I've also been inundated.
I'm writing a book.
I'm putting all my interviews with him together in actually more than 1 book.
And so, you know, I'm kind of like.
Inundated, I'm just, I'm busy every single day.
This whole white hat thing really escalated.
I had to get involved in that and that's taken a great deal of my time.
So hopefully I'll get the book out in the next 6 months to a year and then, you know.
Maybe we'll get back to be able to add, you know, I hope to be able to go visit him again and get more information for sure.
I hope so too, and I can't wait for that book, to be quite honest.
I'm looking forward to that.
So, get to work!
Thank you!
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Thank you, Carrie, for joining us.
This was great.
I really enjoyed this.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the great work.
So I'm sure we'll be in contact.
And until next time, guys, have a great evening.
Good night.
Take care.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
When we realize how powerful we are when we set our intentions and we realize that we aren't just this, we are just these multi-dimensional light beings and time is an illusion and you know, it's everything's a perception.
And you can go forward and backwards and embody it and just pop out and go and do this work.
You can do amazing things when we set the right intentions to do it.
And I said, this is us on this plane.
You know, that's what this is.
We're going to the moon.
And he said, this thing is a lot older than you think it is.
And we've been going to the moon a long time.
But I wrote on it.
I knew that we went to the moon.
And so I always knew there was a base on the moon from a young age.
And our DNA is a complex recording system of the history of the entire universe, the history of everything.
Not just this timeline that we know, but multiple timelines of reality.
There are a total of nine different categories of planets in the universe.
We people on Earth, we are living on a Category 1 planet, like elementary school students.
And the Theobalds, they are living on a Category 9 planet, like college professors.
So they have been really guiding us throughout history.
Teokum let us know that this facility under the Sandia Mountain is considered an information station.
for interstellar travelers coming to the planet.
They tell us that their facility was retrofitted into the ancient tunnel system that already existed.
And as far as the bending of space-time continuum, I've had something like that happen.
And what seemed like about a five minute encounter has been four and a half hours of missing time.
And I was completely conscious.
What are you dealing with a type three, type four, type five civilizations that can work with the different coexisting timelines?
All bets are off, man.
You know, every time we have Bigfoot activity out there, we're having ETs and orbs and stuff like that.
We have a lot of the stuff documented.
As a matter of fact, I'm a member of three different teams, and I work with people from all over the country out in the field.
We actually have documented a portal, something that we consider to be a portal opening, and we sent two of our team members inside of it.
Really?
It disappeared and then came back out.
I would suggest that we take it one step further and say humanity has never known who we are, we've always been in the thought control matrix, and one step further, perhaps we could say that we're in a consciously controlled state of hypnosis.
In other words, Are the Thought Control Matrix creators constantly bombarding us with frequencies that keep us from being telepathic, that keep us from remembering who we are?
The Thought Control Matrix was set up and we have never known our potential, our power, Our beauty, our incredible connection.
It makes no sense at all.
There is no reason for it other than the programming that we've received for generations because it's all about order.
It's all about listen to your elders, listen to the teachers, listen to the adults, listen, listen, listen.
And what that does is it dims the light of the child and it makes them feel like they don't have a voice.
And why that's designed that way by the dark side and that's in the system is so that they grow up And they just listen to and they do what they're told and they're good little boys and good little girls and they lose their sense of self.
They lose their north, their true north.
So many adults are walking around in this world.
They don't know who they are.
So the planet itself is now beginning to split.
It's beginning to divide again into a higher vibrational earth and a lower vibrational earth.
And the race of man is dividing with it.
And we're becoming less and less aware of one another.