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March 16, 2023 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY BRUCE POPPY: CURRENT EVENTS

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Bruce Poppy here.
	Today is, what day is it today?
	I think it's the 13th of March, 2023.
	Welcome, all my friends and family and fellow Patriots and even you trolls, haters and stalkers.
	If you guys hang around for a minute, you just might learn something.
	I'm really excited today to have this, bringing this guest.
	Before I do that, real quickly, just a couple of housekeeping things.
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	With all the censorship and things going on, we don't know what's going to happen really at any given point.
	So to be able to communicate, I'm planning on doing a newsletter at least once a month, maybe bi-monthly, to keep you informed of what's going on, what we're promoting, things that are happening.
	So yeah, join the email list.
	Other information is in the description.
	So I'm really excited today to bring you a guest to talk to, interview, find out what's going on from her perspective.
	Carrie Cassidy of Project Camelot.
	She's been doing this stuff for a long time, 2005 or 2006 I believe is when she started.
	interviewing people, doing things.
	She's a filmmaker, documentaries.
	She's a digger.
	She's an interviewer.
	She is, you know, bringing truth from very, very different perspective than many of the mainstream stuff.
	So let me welcome in the lovely Miss Carrie Cassidy.
	Hey, Carrie, how are you?
	So glad you could make it here.
	Hi, great to meet you.
	And yeah, thanks.
	Thanks very much for having me on your show.
	So yeah, people don't know if people live in a cave somewhere.
	You've been one of the, I guess you could say a pillar, an icon of our movement of bringing out truth for a very long time.
	You started on YouTube doing all kinds of stuff and we know most of us nowadays have a very abusive relationship with YouTube.
	To put it mildly.
	Yes.
	And so you started, you know, the Project Camelot.
	Your website is just amazing.
	All the stuff that's in there, you know, tell us a little bit about, you know, how you got started.
	You know, just kind of give people a brief background and we can, you know, jump into some of the stuff you're digging into today.
	Okay, well, I started back 18 years ago, and I went out on my own and got a consumer grade camcorder.
	I had been working in the movie business and trying to package independent projects into movies, reaching a glass ceiling, old boys network, not able to get anywhere, and got frustrated, decided to make my own UFO documentary.
	So I went to conferences and started asking the speakers questions like on the breaks and stuff like that and I put together a small documentary.
	One of my interviews was with Bill Ryan who was a person who was on the circuit as a sort of a
	A collator of information creating a website in support of what's called SERPO, the SERPO project, which was an alien-human exchange program basically kind of like based on the idea of close encounters of the third kind where you saw Richard Dreyfus suiting up to go exchange in an exchange program.
	Supposedly that went on during In the secret space program in the 60s.
	So, so we ended up, I interviewed him, we hit it off.
	I, at the same time, my mother passed on, I got a small inheritance, I decided to go to Egypt with William Henry and Jordan Maxwell.
	And I ended up interviewing Jordan at that time, about his interactions with aliens.
	He let me film it but said I could not release it and so that went on the shelf for many years even though at that point I ended up teaming up with Bill Ryan.
	We created Project Camelot.
	We both wanted to get the truth out and we And I had flown to England after Egypt to see the stone circles and basically ended up in Tintagel, which is a former home of King Arthur.
	And that's where we got the brilliant idea to create it.
	Project Camelot and to get the truth out through video.
	I was a filmmaker and he was a writer and an executive coach at that time.
	So we quit his job.
	We went on the road and we started interviewing whistleblowers from Above Top Secret.
	And that's how we've begun.
	Well, that's a lot.
	You've been 18 years.
	That's a long time.
	And for many people who don't know, I mean, the stuff that you bring forward is A little different than what the mainstream alternative media, you know, type stuff.
	You go a little bit deeper, a little further.
	Yes.
	You know, the surface stuff, you know, no pun intended, talking about, you know, the Middle Earth things, you know, we're up here on the surface.
	So as you've always been drawn to that type of, you know, that type of topic, you know, how did that come about?
	How did that, you know, you wanted to go do that UFO thing initially, how did that start?
	Well, I guess, you know, I came from an alternative point of view.
	Even though I was working in Hollywood, I was sort of a radical.
	And I went to Sonoma State University.
	And also, for a short time, I lived in New York City for four years and studied acting and directing.
	Ended up back down in Hollywood and working for talent agencies, being a script reader, doing development and that sort of thing.
	So I kind of worked my way up the ladder in Hollywood to a certain point where I kind of reached a glass ceiling.
	I was also on the side writing screenplays of my own.
	So I was trying to break into the business for a long time and really have getting frustrated there.
	So I guess I'm sorry.
	I think I forgot the question.
	What have you always been drawn to me?
	Oh, yeah.
	So yes.
	Absolutely.
	You know, what can I say?
	You know, it's funny that I came to the ufology scene and even the maga scene from a spiritual perspective because my whole background was more into meditation, kundalini activation.
	I meditated for You know, very long period of time, even in New York City, when I was studying acting and directing, I was meditating on my off time and basically had decided without going to any guru or anybody like that, that I would just reach, you know, Samadhi and, you know, sort of, I guess, enlightenment.
	And so I just got a couple books and followed some directions on how to do that.
	And I was at the exact right age to do it.
	I was just in my very early 20s at the time.
	And so it all worked and I had major Samadhi experiences and have had my whole life now and including in Egypt.
	So Egypt, that's fascinating.
	You're planning a trip this year to Egypt?
	Yes, I'm leading a trip.
	In fact, we're leaving.
	I'm flying to the UK to pick up my partner, Neil, who does the filming during the trip.
	And we always film our trips because you never know what's going to happen, something interesting.
	So myself and Maria Wheatley, who's also an author, investigator, and she's an expert douser, what's called a douser.
	So we put our skill sets together along with an Egyptian guide.
	And so the people that come on our trip get like a huge gamut of sort of everything.
	Everywhere we go, we talk.
	I get downloads.
	I've actually had the elders that are called the Watchers of the Temple come and stand and listen to me and nod their heads and they're very happy with me.
	So, yeah, I've been leading tours in Egypt for the last, I don't know, five years, but we had a break during COVID because we wouldn't travel when you had to have a vax.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's a whole other thing.
	One of the other things I noticed and I love about you is the fact that you give zero Fs.
	You're a hard-hitting, you don't crack with nobody.
	You put it out there the way some of the interviews you do.
	I mean, sometimes people have this almost a little reputation of being a little tough.
	You know, kind of a hard-ass type of person, but you're really not.
	You're really just somebody with a big heart who wants the truth, good, bad, or indifferent.
	You know, I say that all the time.
	I just want the truth, good, bad, or indifferent.
	Just don't blow smoke up my ass, right?
	We've been lied to.
	We've been manipulated.
	We've been brainwashed, if you will, MKUltra, whatever term you want to use, our entire lives.
	And so we're just now, I think, Some people, you know, I wish there was more numbers coming to the realization of that, you know, and can you speak to some of the stuff that, you know, why it is that you feel that way or why it is you've come across as so strong?
	Well, when you do something for 18 years, that's a pretty long period of time.
	And because I'm interviewing whistleblowers from above top secret during those years, especially in the early years, not so much now, because there are a lot fewer.
	Real whistleblowers.
	But that shaped my view of the world in a major way.
	So, you know, that's a big part of my recent life anyway.
	And prior to that, I had done tons of investigation on the internet.
	When I was involved in Hollywood, I was writing sci-fi screenplays.
	What I wanted to do was follow more or less in the footsteps of George Lucas and Steven Spielberg.
	And I was, I wanted to write something that would change the world, change people's consciousness, because when I was a kid, I saw Close Encounters of, let's see, Close Encounters, yeah, of the third kind.
	And in the theater, I was very young and very naive, but I thought, Oh my God, this is, it was like an epiphany for me because I thought, oh my God, I'm going to walk outside of this theater and the whole world's going to be different and everyone's going to know the truth.
	Cause I had, had been abducted as a kid.
	Had, you know, not clear memories, but very strong memories.
	And I've always known that were other, you know, dimensions and I communicate, I was psychic when I was a kid as well.
	And so I've always... I have something of a precog as well, which has sort of protected me and given me insight ever since I, you know, was young.
	So all of this, you know, contributed to me having this perspective that was not... I was never like other people.
	I also, you know, I talked back to my parents when I was a kid.
	I wouldn't go along with, I got in trouble in school for talking back to the teachers.
	I didn't know any better.
	I just wanted to make the world a better place.
	Right.
	Probably not so much talking back in a rebellious sense, as you were just a questioner of the static quo or the narrative that they're putting forward, right?
	So that's carried forward?
	Yeah, I have a BA in English, graduate work in sociology, and then I also went to UCLA executive program.
	At the end of the program, I won a prize for asking the most questions.
	So I really have not changed at all in my life.
	I've been the same kind of person my whole life.
	I'm not sure why exactly.
	It's just where I've been at and I tend to land on the truth very easily and I've been lucky in that way.
	You might call it luck.
	You know, but I am I'm a diligent researcher and I'm very like if I it's kind of like a dog without a with a bone.
	I will not, you know, let go of a subject.
	So until I understand it until it's clear and in my interviews, that's part of my style.
	So but I also have some kind of 107 did one interview with me and then he told me he wouldn't do any more interviews with me because I get people to tell the truth.
	And Gene Decode said the same thing about me.
	I have some kind of like sort of psychic aura.
	thing where I get with somebody and I start talking to them just like a normal conversation.
	And I don't know, they get into this headspace of why don't they tell the truth anyway?
	So I've had a lot of revelations of my whistleblowers over the years.
	So I believe I did see that interview with Juan.
	And you can talk about, you mentioned Juan a lot.
	You know, it seems, you know, I, I don't know, myself included, nobody really knows all the details about him, where he comes from, who he really is, and all that type of stuff.
	But I learned to come to realize, through a personal experience, that whoever he is, he's super connected.
	Uh, you know, to, you know, the higher powers and different, you know, whoever is running this show in some form or fashion.
	Uh, cause he, he was able to call in an air show when we were doing the truth tour out west.
	He was supposed to call in and speak at our Wyoming event over the phone.
	And he called Gina and he said, Hey, I'm not going to make it, but Hey, if you guys go outside in an hour, you know, there's going to be a surprise break.
	So, about an hour time went by and all of a sudden a Huey helicopter buzzed our building.
	A C-130, a couple F-18s flew over.
	So, like I said, I don't know who he is or what.
	He definitely brings forward information.
	And he's one of those types of people that talks in stories.
	You've got to read between the lines with that guy.
	He doesn't make it plain.
	That's fine.
	And that's sort of the frustrating thing.
	You've had that experience as well?
	Um, yes, but I have, you know, I put this in other videos.
	I won't go into it too much here, but I will say that I've had, um, in the early days, uh, like around the time of he, he did this thing where I, I don't know if you're familiar.
	I think it was in 20.
	Was it 2019?
	It must have been, because it wasn't COVID.
	I don't think COVID was happening then.
	So it must have been 2019 or something, when he invited all these journalists to this screening of Sound of Freedom, which still hasn't come out, but it's, I think, about to come out, because he took over the distribution.
	Yes, yes.
	So, but anyway, I guess he decided to invite all the alternative journalists to a cocktail party on the Friday night and then the weekend was going to be screenings and ended up to be a screening of The Called and The Sound of Freedom.
	So, I was there with a bunch of other journalists, you know, Nino and all the usual suspects.
	And I met Juan there.
	There's more than one Juan.
	There's two Juans, at least two.
	And there could be more, but we know of two majorly.
	And, you know, one is known as... God, what's his name?
	I forget his name.
	Anyway, but one has blue eyes, one has brown.
	The brown is JFK Jr., as far as I'm concerned.
	I've done tons of research and I've had lots.
	Ever since then, I had a lot of interactions with him.
	Over the phone, mainly, and then I met him again in like, so that was in February of that year.
	Then in April, I had a huge amount of dreams 1 night that were so real.
	They're more real than reality.
	And in those dreams, I had certain information come to me.
	And then, and a year before that, I had had a similar kind of slew of dreams, but I didn't, they didn't include Juan, they include Trump and JFK Jr.
	But in the dreams that I had in April of that year, I guess it was 2019.
	Again, I think the years are a little vague for me, but I got the download that Juan07 was JFK Jr.
	And he actually, in a certain way, in my dialogues with him, because I did a ton of texting, talked on the phone, blah, blah, blah.
	Had arguments with him on the phone, journalistic arguments over what things that I was printing that he did or didn't want me to print, things like that.
	You know, because as JFK Jr., he was running a magazine before he disappeared or supposedly died.
	And so it was perfectly in keeping with his style, I guess you might say, as being an editor and me being a writer.
	And all of that.
	And Jackie was a journalist as well.
	I guess a lot of people don't know that or whatever.
	So it developed over that time.
	And the most recent time I saw him in person was at the Reckoning in Texas.
	And we had sort of a tete-a-tete, whatever, intense kind of thing where I Met with him and for a very short time, and then kind of was hanging out at the conference after that.
	And he, I'm not, I won't say what happened there, but basically, he let me know again, you know, again, I tried to join the White House.
	And again, he said, no, that, you know, no, you would have had to do that years ago.
	And I said, what kind of organization is this where you don't let new people come on board?
	And I said I'd sign anything, blah blah blah, but anyway that didn't happen, so...
	I do.
	I had been dealing with the White Hats before Juan came forward, at least to my knowledge, because he was actually, back in the day, he was doing the Hagman Show and that was way back in, like, I don't know, 2012 or some crazy time back, way back.
	He's been, you know, sort of secretly coming forward and then he came forward in a big way when he called the journalists to this So, yeah, so I guess have I answered the question?
	I had that weekend.
	So, and during the weekend, he was sort of here, there and everywhere at the conference that he put on.
	And so, or whatever you wanna call that.
	So, yeah, so I guess, have I answered the question?
	That's kind of how I developed a relationship, but I also know White Hats.
	I interviewed Paladin and I submitted a report for Paladin and the White Hats.
	I met other White Hats and have had off-the-record conversations with them for years.
	So, unlike most people who think that, you know, the White Hats just came together in 2018 around the time of Q, I knew there was a long history.
	That I learned about and, of course, was very much a fan of because I had him on my show.
	I had Paladin on my show numerous times.
	He became a friend.
	You know, we had huge investigations we did together online on certain, let's say, topics of mutual interest.
	He's a forensic financial investigator and he's also quite a character.
	If people know him or knew his shows, he then went to the ground, you know, he basically disappeared from the public eye around the time when Q came forward.
	I think that a lot of them were told to do that, you know, kind of have a low profile and then he wouldn't talk to me for quite a while.
	So I'm kind of back in touch now.
	Excellent.
	Now you mentioned the White Hats and one of the things I remember was that recently, maybe a month or two ago, a couple months ago, that you came out, you know, pretty hard, you know, against the White Hats.
	Hey, you know, you know, what are we doing when there was some scuttlebutt about a new pandemic that they were going to be allowing and all that different type of stuff?
	You came out and you're like, what the heck?
	Well, I have to clarify.
	See, I didn't come out against them.
	I'm never against them.
	But the thing is, no, there's a little bit of a gray area there because S.G. Anon came forward.
	And I have had issues with S.G. Anon's statements because I think they're not, you know, I think he's a good guy.
	I think he's well-meaning.
	I think he does a good job.
	But generally speaking, he will make statements that are actually wrong.
	And because he's so busy maybe trying to get certain information across, he makes generalizations, vast generalizations.
	And recently, I actually made a list of things that were incorrect or misdirects that Juan and S.G. Anon had been putting out there.
	What I've sort of become and this wasn't intentional it just this was actually several like a months ago around December I think it was when I first came out emphatically saying to the White Hats you know like kind of like I don't know if I can swear here but Kind of like, what the fuck is going on?
	Because they had made promises, years were going by, time was going by, and a lot of the things that they said would happen didn't happen.
	We're still waiting for the EBS electronic broadcast.
	to come out and I know some people want to call it the EA electronic alert system but I don't see that as the same thing as the electronic broadcast.
	I don't see an alert as being a broadcast.
	Those are two different things really.
	Uh, so I just want to kind of highlight that, but, you know, I know that there was a time when they went in and they took over Mount Washington, what's called Mount Washington, which was the center in the United States, supposedly for doing such things as electronic broadcasting world, you know, across the United States anyway, and shutting down other media.
	At the time.
	And again, we've got people out there, and I'm not going to name their names, who are saying, oh, it's going to be any day now.
	We're back to that time when people are doing that.
	So, it's, you know, when you, I listen to SG Anon, I listen to 107, I listen to other people out there.
	I put two and two together.
	But I often find gaps or things where people are not correct.
	Partly because I've been doing this a lot longer than most people, in a funny way.
	I mean, 18 years.
	And even before that, having been sort of an investigator, I actually was trained as a journalist in college.
	So I've been an investigative journalist for a long time, like with that mentality, even when I was in Hollywood, you know, stuff.
	So, What can I tell you?
	So what I'm saying is that when I'm basically, you know, these people are attempting to go up against a very incredible, dark cabal, okay?
	And they run the world.
	And they own what's called the right to issue, which I've been educated about by certain whistleblowers that I have.
	So that also gets on to the off-planet control of this Earth and what and the White Hats are operating within a certain parameters that of course they're not sharing and I've also been told Early on, very early on, to my face by Juan, you know, leave the alien card out of it because they want to concentrate.
	They want people, you know, they want to win an election.
	You know, in some ways they use old, this old school Republican politics and as that's Trump's base, right?
	I mean, I just pay attention and I'm one of the people that I guess is not afraid to speak out and question the plan.
	I question.
	So I'm in favor of everything they're doing.
	I consider them heroes.
	But I also feel that we, the people, should be consulted, and that we should have input with them.
	And some of us in particular, obviously, I consider myself one of those people.
	And the reason is, you know, that we are, we are part of Source.
	You know, if you're going to listen to an AI, I said this on recently on another show, but I guess it was on Lewis's But if you're going to listen to, you know, all these other people and the AI, they've got an AI they're listening to, they've got generals, and God knows who else, consulting them, then you need to be also listening to the people.
	And as a journalist, an investigative journalist, especially an alternative investigative journalist and a documentary filmmaker,
	With this background of interviewing thousands of people in every walk of life, really, but also concentrating on whistleblowers from Above Top Secret, I have a special body of work that I think gives me entree to have, you know, some degree of an ability to question some of the decisions they're making on an everyday
	um sort of case by case basis but right now i mean you know everything you look at can be questioned as to whether it's a light hat like we call them the white hats a light side move like for for the people or whether it's a dark side move and unfortunately what happened with the white hats is that they they basically
	Mimicked, if you will, secret societies and use their tactics in order to fight them, which is understandable to a degree.
	Right.
	But there's also, you know, a tipping point.
	If you look like a duck and walk like a duck and act like a duck, sooner or later someone's going to think you're a duck.
	And in this case, you know, working with the dark, that's what they're having to do.
	You know, they're having to deal with dark side magicians.
	And most of the MAGA people, and the White Hats in particular, have sort of a A basis where, you know, I think in general, they're believing in what you might say God and they follow sort of a Christian religion type of a format.
	I had a unique upbringing in that we didn't even have a Bible in the house.
	I had to go out and buy one to see what it was all about.
	When I was a kid, not because my parents were Satanists or anything like that, they just rebelled against religion.
	But my mother decided she wanted us to have some kind of spiritual or religious background.
	So when I was around 12, She, I was her oldest daughter, so she went around to all these different religions and churches and temples and even Buddhism and so on.
	And we sat into their sort of sermons.
	And then she finally decided on a Unitarian type thing to take her kids to.
	We went for like, I don't know, a couple months.
	All I remember about it is that they were talking about Nefertiti and Akhenaten and I totally had past life recall of living in that time of Egypt.
	So I was inspired by that.
	But none of us wanted to go to church.
	We all thought it was really boring and so we didn't go.
	I feel you there, and I've made an evolution, if you will, a different thing.
	I started out myself in the Christian-type church thing.
	I came very close to being a children's pastor, and then when I got involved with the people and the backstuff, you know, the backbiting and the red tape and all the bullshit, really, hypocrisy, I was like, for me, I say all the time, church would be great if it wasn't for the people.
	But, you know, moving on to different things, there is way more we need to expand our thinking.
	I mean, there's a lot of people I know that watch, you know, my stuff, and are, you know, fans, or, you know, people who watch different podcasters, and that they're, you know, really hardcore stuck in that, you know, Christian dogma, and their, you know, refusal to accept that there might be something, you know, that's not the full story.
	Right.
	You know, this is ultimately a spiritual war.
	And, you know, some of your frustration, you know, with the way that things are rolling out with the White Hats, I think is felt by a lot of people.
	You know, we've been on this roller coaster ride up and down, and we think something's going to happen, and then nothing, and then nothing.
	And, you know, there's a lot of people, you know, quite frankly, they're probably losing some faith in the plan.
	You know, and we were always told, trust the plan, trust the plan.
	And Juan even told us this when we were in Anaheim, we had this meeting, he said, you know, even the guy at the very top making all the decisions, they don't know, you know, what's going to happen.
	It's a moves and counter moves situation.
	So we all, you know, there's many people that talk about, hey, the White Hats are in control.
	You know, how much do you believe really they're in control?
	You know, are they being somewhat held back because of some nefarious things that Black cats may have, you know, underlying kind of threatening?
	I've heard, you know, things, dirty bombs or, you know, different things planted around them.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, not long ago, I guess, Phil, I'm not going to say his last name, but you know who I mean, is a broadcaster out there and he's a non, he's a master techie from what I understand.
	Now a lot of people question him, but I have been You know, dabbled, I guess you might say, seeing a couple of his things when there was something really crucial.
	I have friends who are fans, so they kind of give me a heads up.
	So then I go over and listen.
	I can say that this recent thing about this announcement that Trump supposedly was going to do at the Super Bowl and then didn't do it, but a letter was written that was supposedly a leaked letter and sent to Bill.
	And for some reason they use him for this kind of thing.
	There's also another leaked transcript a few months ago, supposedly Putin, a conversation that Putin had with Biden where he said, you know, you're president of nothing and that he's never going to speak to him again.
	So if you hear that Putin and Biden are talking, it's probably bullshit.
	So I think that Phil does get good information.
	You know, one of the tactics of the White Hats is to use people to represent them in the milieu out there.
	And they have a very small pool that they're using, right?
	But they'll use people that have something in their background that makes them questionable.
	So that they're not, it's called, you know, plausible deniability.
	It's an old tactic going back to the secret You know, government, it's been used forever.
	So this is what I mean.
	They use these old tactics that kind of drive a person crazy, you know, in a way, because there are good guys, right?
	But they're using these sort of semi negative tactics.
	So Charlie Ward is such a person.
	I don't I don't think he would deny it.
	And I don't think he'd mind my mentioning him as one of those people with questionable background, you know, moving money for the elite.
	And so on, and I interviewed Charlie Ward a while ago, quite a while ago.
	So anyway, so when you question the source, they expect you to question the source.
	They're happy that you're questioning the source because it gives them a way out.
	It gives them, you know, where old school Republicans will be horrified if they heard, you know, some of the stuff that is even Juan says.
	In his disguise, he is allowed to say just about anything he wants.
	He's dressed like Santa Claus.
	The disguise has gotten even more intense over the years that I've known him.
	You know, because that gives him, again, plausible deniability.
	I can say he's JFK Jr.
	What am I?
	I'm a fringe, you know, alternative journalist.
	So nobody's going to believe me.
	So I get away with this stuff, right?
	I was banned from YouTube a couple years ago when I started interviewing real doctors over COVID.
	All those years, like 17 years up to then, everything was fine.
	They questioned, you know, started to question the last two years before they deleted me completely, my interviews, okay?
	And one of them was about the JFK assassination.
	That's one which they gave me, you know, a red flag on.
	So, it's very interesting how things have kind of morphed to this time, right?
	And now we're all on alternative media platforms like Rumble, blah, blah, blah.
	And eventually I have taken all my videos and also put them on my own website, on my own server, so that nobody can control me, so to speak.
	So, yeah.
	This is the land we live in at this time.
	But, right, plausible deniability, using the tactics of the dark side so that you, the MAGA people, who will, you know, think that person has questionable background.
	I mean, I'm telling you that people would not even consider that that so-called leaked thing about the Super Bowl was true.
	What it said was that Trump was going to announce the EBS in that.
	Now, you could say it was not true, but it's see, there is, you know, one thing about now, Bill can be a person, I could be used, you could be used, anybody can be used by the dark side or the light side.
	And that gets into General Flynn, you know, what side is he on this week?
	You know, flip-flopping all over the place.
	You know, some people think he's a good guy, some people think he's a diabolical guy.
	You know, and there's numerous people in the Trump camp that you can do, you know, play that game with, right?
	Well, is that by design, do you think?
	Absolutely.
	Not all these people with the different, you know, so that there can be this confusion?
	I mean, that's... Yes.
	So they're using the art of war, Sun Tzu art of war, and deception is the name of the game.
	And I get infuriated about that, okay?
	Because I, you know, I'm a straight shooter, as you can tell.
	And so I don't like it when they're deceiving the people.
	I understand some deception is necessary.
	Like, I don't have a problem with them using Flynn to go back and forth.
	I don't care about that.
	What I care about is when they lie or they mislead the people directly.
	And on crucial things that could actually save lives and things of that nature.
	And we are like, okay.
	It's absurd when you follow, you know, Derek Johnson's information, if you understand that Trump, you know, continuity of government, that Trump is still our president, that he never stepped down, that he just took, he followed what happens when you get invaded by a foreign power, which is the CCP,
	Using Biden as his, you know, and the foot soldiers in the Biden administration as their people to take us down and digital steal of the election.
	I mean, Juan has explained this extensively, saying that Trump is the commander in chief and, you know, that he's basic.
	What Juan doesn't say is that he's president, but the COG information says he's president.
	And so did Derek Johnson in terms of the military protocols and so on and so forth.
	All of that is absolutely the truth, as far as I'm concerned.
	So, if you look at that, then the contradictions with the things Trump does and says can kind of drive you crazy because, you know, I mean, even right now, you know, he he'll do things like he leaving open the border.
	They didn't need to do that, but I guess they think they did in order to convince people that One of the things they do a lot of is try to show up Biden as the terrible leader that he is.
	I mean, first of all, he's not even there.
	He's dead.
	The guy is playing him is just some actor now.
	And there's been a slew of actors, including possibly Jim Carrey, as they say.
	But, you know, this is just... Jim Carrey, James Woods, you know, different people.
	I mean, it's just very frustrating when you know the truth.
	And I think a lot of MAGA people know what I know.
	They know the truth.
	They've followed, you know, if you follow these things and you really read, I read everything about Kagam.
	Okay.
	And I forget the website where I got it from.
	It's... I can't remember the guy's name even, but I'm terrible.
	Patel Patriot.
	He's the first guy that was the devolution.
	Yes, that's it.
	So, you know, if you read that, you absolutely, you can't walk away not being convinced because he's talking about laws, executive orders Trump put in place before he stepped away from the office.
	What a president has a responsibility to the people.
	to act in a certain way if we are ever invaded.
	There are safeguards to safeguard the integrity of our, you know, United States of America.
	Trump would have been negligent.
	He would have been a treasonary had he not done these things.
	So he did do these things.
	He was responsible.
	He is responsible.
	And so It drives me crazy that they continue this ruse, this play, in which Trump pretends that, oh, Biden left this open.
	He left stuff and equipment over in Afghanistan.
	He did this.
	He did that.
	Biden is not even Biden.
	Biden's a tool.
	Now, if he's controlled, a lot of people like to say right now that Biden's controlled by Trump.
	and the white hats.
	Well, maybe to a degree, but let's look at even this financial debacle that just happened.
	Okay, that the attack on SBB.
	So what's going on there?
	Is that because okay, That is a bank that is kind of like I consider it to be part of the secret space program.
	That is a place where all of the venture capitalists are supporting all the innovation that comes out of, you know, the tech world in California, in particular Silicon Valley.
	So, So attacking that bank, misleading the leadership, and the leadership were egotistical idiots, no doubt.
	And I just found out from a friend of mine that the guy who's running the place actually was responsible for the takedown of Drexel.
	You know, Drexel Burnham?
	I mean, so he's already got a record of ruining these large corporations, but it's not a lone gunman, okay?
	So, you know how the deep state always wants you to think, oh, it's a lone gunman, some individual crazy who did the deed?
	No.
	It's always a group, you know, it's a false flag that's under the purview of probably CIA or whoever it is.
	So they're taking down this one particular sort of high-profile Silicon Valley bank to send a message for a reason, okay?
	And I'm assuming it's a dark hat move, but In this current climate, you never know, okay, that the White Hats are actually doing some dark hat moves on purpose to either make Biden look bad or, you know, expose this, expose that, or wake people up, or blah, blah, blah.
	But I'm saying this is a dark hat move in my world.
	And yet it's strange because What you're talking about is a bank that is fully kind of funded and supported by what is in essence underground the Secret Space Program, which I know a lot about, that I've spent years and years and years basically at the feet of whistleblowers telling me what's going on there, who have worked, you know, for 40 years of their life or more.
	And one of my most recent interviews is 12 interviews with Captain Mark Richards, who's in jail for a crime he didn't commit.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	All I'm saying is that when you look at the playing field, and I try to stress this in all of my interviews, is that you cannot just see it as a simple game.
	It is 5D chess.
	It really is.
	It is chess on several levels, where the White Hats might be doing a good thing on one level, on the next level they might be allowing a dark side thing to happen, okay?
	So that It will fill out these other things that, you know, take down Biden in the minds of the normies, you know, so-and-so.
	I mean, today I was looking at an article, it might have been on Gateway Pundit, basically outing the evidence that they have that Comey is now... Now, I thought Comey was a bad guy, but maybe they turned him.
	So Comey is suddenly saying that Biden is a communist.
	Of course he is.
	He's, you know, I mean, these Americans have no clue, okay?
	There's a huge swath of Americans.
	That includes my family.
	I mean, I had a big argument with my sister.
	I couldn't believe it.
	She wanted to, she voted for Biden, you know?
	And she voted for Biden because she liked Kamala.
	Oh, please.
	I mean... Oh my God.
	So the bank thing is there's I mean, yeah, knowing whether it's a black or white hat thing, it couldn't be like a precursor or the first domino that falls.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the financial system.
	But, you know, my one friend that watches all the mainstream stuff said, you know, they're painting Biden like he's a hero because he's saying that the Fed's going to stand behind the investors and all of this.
	What it does appear... Yeah, I thought we were bankrupt.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, contradiction after contradiction.
	We're bankrupt, but we send billions to Ukraine.
	I mean, this is insanity!
	There can't be any truth when you can take two contradictory statements that can't both be true.
	They just can't.
	So therefore, you have to look at that.
	And our monetary situation has been exposed for many, many years that we're in all kinds of dire straits.
	But we could have hidden gold and so on and so forth that they're tapping into, needless to say.
	I mean, God knows.
	Yes.
	Okay, this is my theory, but when it comes to the financial, let me do a disclaimer here because that's the area I know the least about, even though I've had some amazing whistleblowers on that level.
	I mean, top of the top of the top.
	I can't elaborate anymore because they're always in deep black with me.
	They're not public people.
	But I can tell you things that I know to be true based on several of them pretty much telling me the same thing.
	But on this issue that just happened, I haven't had any whistleblower people talk to me, but I've been doing this for so many years that I can start to connect the dots a bit.
	And I can say that it looks like they're trying to do a bank consolidation for the majors, because even though a lot of alternative people were saying, you know, Get your money into a local bank.
	It'll be safer there.
	I think this shows the lie there because this is a local bank, supposedly, and although it's being backed, you know, because they're saving it, supposedly,
	If this starts mounting up with all the banks failing, and if they are trying to swallow into the big whales, you know, B of A, Wells Fargo, blah, blah, blah, that your money is only going to be safe in the whales, that's a precursor to the quantum financial system, a rollout of the digital currency.
	So I see this as possibly going along those lines.
	No, it doesn't make sense, because like you said, the contradiction, we're just crazy.
	We're supposed to be, you know, our debt limit, we don't have any more money to put in.
	The Treasury's putting all these, what are they, the word, the term they use, you know, some drastic measures to protect, but at the same time, Yellen goes over to Ukraine, gives them $1.2 billion, and commits to another $10 billion over the next four months.
	You know, that's... Complete insanity.
	Complete insanity.
	And it's unbelievable that even one American could go along with that scheme.
	I mean, you don't have to be a financial whiz kid to realize that.
	You can't go give billions of dollars to a country when you're bankrupt.
	It doesn't even make sense.
	What are you doing?
	Where is it coming from?
	What are you talking about?
	Is this just a lie?
	That we're being told?
	Talk about, you know, there is no probability where they've done some tracking that money, I mean, whether it's, you know, deep state money laundering or whether, you know, Zelensky are the deep state type of people or they're, you know, blackmailing, you know, because they know about the bioweapons lab over there in Ukraine and all that different type of stuff.
	These are the questions that everybody has.
	I'm sure, like many other people listening, and people that watch your stuff too, expected that a lot of this shit show to be over by now.
	It doesn't seem like things are going to be changing.
	I'm an action guy.
	We're always trying to get people.
	I believe I've been a major part of the plan all along.
	You know, and there's so much diversity and people that are sharing fake phony and false stuff like Dave from X22 said, you know, bullshit within the Patriot community.
	You know, Ethan Lucas mentioned that Patriot mythology, you know, we're sitting around waiting for somebody else to do the work.
	What can we do from your perspective, as we the people, to maybe help this thing along, to stand up, say no, or do we just sit back and pop our popcorn and wait for the stuff to happen?
	Yeah, well, I'm obviously not a popcorn eater in that sense.
	So, no, I, you know, I, in fact, well, a lot of people may or may not know this, but okay, so I had phone conversations with Juan and eventually he stopped talking to me.
	But I text him constantly and I send him all kinds of commentary on everything they're doing.
	And so I know I drive him crazy but I also think I mean one time he told me he has 300 messages on different phones a day over three so 300 on every phone or whatever the hell it is and so he had to hire a team to handle his messages on phones so it's not like he looks at what I send him but Sometimes I'll make a comment and I'll see him actually incorporate what I said into his recent talk.
	But I could just say that, or maybe a bunch of us are saying that.
	You know, you never know when you're saying the same thing other people are saying.
	And it's not out of the question either.
	But I would say that those are big things that I question him about, is these things where they're completely deceiving the public.
	And I've urged him to come forward, of course, and tell the truth about who he is and all of that numerous times.
	And I've also given him reasons why I think he should do that and so on and so forth.
	If he is who you assume he is, he is probably the one person, looking back, that could unite not just the United States, but it would be a global situation.
	And I've told him that over and over again, ever since I've interacted with him, because it's a no-brainer, okay?
	That all these sleepers out there would suddenly Wake up overnight if they realize that JFK Jr.
	was standing right beside Trump and going, this is the right guy.
	Now, sure, there'd be a blowback and a lot of people, you know, some people might not like it.
	But the bottom line here is that how they choose to play the game, in essence, you know, there is, I don't know if you know this, but you know, there's a saying out there, the saying that, you know, Trump holds Trump cards.
	He really does.
	Okay.
	And one of those is, of course, Tesla and free energy.
	But There's a picture of Trump holding a card in his hand, and it's got a picture of JFK Jr.
	That's one of his Trump cards.
	That was kind of the message.
	So, yes, how they use that card, when they use that card, blah, blah, blah.
	Yeah.
	Even, you know, there have been some rumblings that he might come out in the next month or two, things being what they are.
	Every, you know, it is a moving target.
	I mean, it's, one has to appreciate you're fighting these nefarious satanists who don't care.
	They will eliminate, you know, they'll take it like the apartment building they took down over the McAfee stuff.
	Promises, promises.
	We were going to see the McAfee stuff.
	Never, never, never.
	But Right when Juan said they were going to do it, then boom!
	They took down the apartment building right near where Ivanka lives, shot across the bow.
	Supposedly they also, by the way, abducted Barron when that went on.
	A lot of people don't know that.
	I've heard so many people talking about that there was some crazy archaeological stuff underneath that building.
	Well, the idea was there is a safe or something down there and that's where McCaffrey had his stuff hidden, supposedly.
	And we're still waiting for the Epstein list as well.
	So, you know, these are the things that have been going on and on and on.
	But at the same time, just like with, I guess I kind of forgot this piece that I was talking about, that Super Bowl announcement, they stopped it according to the leak because they got a, you know, a threat that they had to take seriously.
	Now, think about the dark side.
	They could give you a threat any day of the week that says, if you do that, you know, they did 9-11.
	They'll do whatever they want.
	They created the Ohio trains, you know, thing.
	I mean, you know, and I think the White House interfered to take it down before it got to Pittsburgh or this military base in Chesapeake Bay, according to Robert Young, who I interviewed about it.
	In other words, The White Hats interfere as best they can.
	They don't always get the intel as soon as they need it, I don't think, and they may not know the exact action to take, but they have to do something, right?
	So it's not like they're perfect, but at the same time, they are using all of these incidents to try to steer the ship in a certain direction and turn the ship around, in essence, which is the ship of the United States.
	I don't know whether, you know, what's going to happen in terms of their decisions and whether or not right now, for example, they're undergoing another sort of sequence of threats or whatever, because as you can kind of see that we're at, if you were watching a movie, you're getting to the peak of the The attacks across America, I say, never see these as isolated incidents.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	To the peak.
	So within that, the dark side is also going to do more and more.
	The attacks across America, I say never see these as isolated incidents.
	Everything's connected.
	And normally, everyone would say, look, you attack America and we don't fight back.
	We don't do anything.
	Hello.
	And they know who's doing it.
	Don't be deceived.
	So I, you know, again, this is something where I go, what the fuck, you know, to the white hat saying like, what are you doing?
	What do you, you know, hello.
	But What is not clear is how, you know, it's like all the moves up to now.
	can kind of be understood and explained based on going back and forth between black hats and white hats, right?
	But the closer you get to the top, the sort of crescendo of when things have to flip over to the white hats, and some people I know are out there saying, you know, we've won already, these are just the last moves, blah, blah, blah.
	I don't buy that, okay, for numerous reasons.
	But, you know, And I do know that Juan is a little bit more level-headed the way he talks to people than SG Anon, who thinks that, you know, we're going to take down every underground base on the planet.
	We're not going to leave one stone unturned.
	This kind of talk just drives me crazy.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Because it's not possible.
	Okay, you don't understand.
	And I wrote all this in an article, so I don't need to go into it if you want to see what I had to say.
	Why I think what I think is because I know so much about the inner earth civilizations, the underground bases that are there going back to the time of Atlantis and before.
	You know, you don't understand.
	Plus, they're not just flooding Underground cities, hello?
	There's tons of people working for the Secret Space Program that live in those cities, okay?
	So they can't just indiscriminately take those down.
	So there are pockets and there will always be pockets.
	It's going to take a while Years even for us to get the Draco reptilian gray influence off the earth if we ever are able to do that.
	The reason I say that is, look, even the alien abduction program, the gray alien abduction program that was so prolific,
	During certain years and continues to this day, but mainly in South America is because you've got these gray human hybrid children that are now in their 20s and slightly older, probably crossing the border into our country and joining organizations like, you know, the Sinaloa cartel and working for them, working for the dark side, you know, being naive or whatever they are.
	It's, you know, it's a huge picture.
	It's not simple.
	I mean, it's taken, you know, decades, if not centuries, right, to get us into this situation.
	Right.
	And we really can't expect, you know, to flip it out.
	I've heard people talk about, we got one shot at this.
	If we don't do it right this time, you know, we're in 20 to 30 years, we're going to be back in the same thing.
	The next generation is not going to appreciate, you know, what we've, what's been going on.
	Uh, and you, you talked about the, um, The alien abduction, or the swapping, you know, the program that they had, that was part of what they called the deal with Eisenhower?
	Was that that time frame?
	Well, I think that they made a deal then, yes, to get the technology, but later on, according to Dan Bierisch, who was part of MJ-12, or is still part of MJ-12, they made several deals with the aliens, but the aliens broke every deal they ever had.
	I mean, the grey aliens, you know, and, you know, the greys, the reptilians, and Draco are run by an off-planet AI, which some people know, some people don't know, according to my research.
	So, you're dealing with, again, a race of beings, call them what you will, who have a vested interest in taking over the planet.
	In the reptilians' case, they think that they were here first and that the Earth belongs to them.
	So, you know, this is a complex story.
	It's a complex game.
	There's not a simple explanation.
	That's the same thing with the adrenochrome issue, okay?
	That all comes from these beings that are going interdimensional but feeding on human glands and so on, glandular stuff, what they call loosh, etc.
	The adrenochrome Basically, they frighten their victim to death and then they kill him so that the adrenaline gets going in their system, in the system of the target.
	And that... That constant cycle of fear-porn after fear-porn after fear-porn to keep us in that space, that fear space.
	I mean, even the newest thing with the banks, it could get people freaked out in fear, right?
	And then they go and make a run on the banks, everybody's pulling their money out.
	That could be a domino effect that could affect, be in the beginning of the end of the financial system. - Well, they obviously went way out of their way on Sunday night to stop that happening this time around.
	Whether it sticks, because you know they shut down the banks, the trading on the banks, so we don't know when they green light it again where things are going to be at.
	But I could say control mechanisms are definitely coming down to control the whole sector.
	Why and whether they'll be successful, I don't know.
	And this is where you get into this might actually go and feed into the White Hat design, right?
	That seeing a bank flip, two banks fail is in their world because they want to take down the system before they replace it.
	Now, I'm not so sure that's a great tactic in my world, especially when it's like taking down, you know, the Titanic when you're still on it.
	And you're in uncharted waters and so and so forth may not be the smartest move anyone ever made.
	OK.
	But they are kind of desperate and they they seem to think their A.I.
	and their generals are telling them this is the right tactic.
	Right.
	So we're sitting here, sitting ducks, so to speak.
	We're the collateral damage on the plan.
	Hello?
	I don't consider myself to be worthy of being collateral damage on anyone's plan, let alone, I don't even care if they're the good guys.
	To make that not happen to me, that's part of what we're doing.
	I'd say all the time on the different shows and stuff I do is I can't control what the white hats do.
	I let them do their stuff.
	I kind of monitor the situation.
	I don't get too caught up in it.
	It's a lot of people.
	They love the drama.
	That's why the society you look at over how In television recently, all these reality TV shows, everybody's got their face glued in because they're so nosy.
	They want to be in other people's shit.
	They don't want to deal with their own problem.
	Right.
	So, you know, let's monitor what they have.
	Let's not participate.
	I try not to participate as much as possible.
	And I try to direct people, hey, this is what we can do.
	Let's be a better, be the best human beings we can be.
	You know, raise our vibration and, you know, elevate ourselves and ascend ourselves.
	So that we can be prepared for whatever eventuality happens, that we can, you know, be contributing members and help people.
	Because when all this stuff starts to come out, whether it's a continuous drip, drip, drip, drip, drip forever, or they flip a switch and then everything comes out at once, many people's heads are going to explode.
	You know, when they realize everything that they've known or thought they've known or been taught and brainwashed their whole lives has been lies and bullshit, you know?
	So yeah, but you know, I again, I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
	I really don't like this.
	You can't handle the truth.
	B.S.
	I think humans are much more amazing than we give each other credit for.
	And I think, you know, I think they can handle it.
	In fact, I'm sure they can.
	That doesn't mean there won't be some people just, you know, kill themselves over it.
	Well, so what?
	You know, they could kill themselves over Wall Street crashing, too.
	You know, if you want to kill yourself, then I'm sure there's plenty of reasons to try to do so at this time or any other time on planet Earth.
	It's really about the ones who Come here, have a mission, or aren't awakened and have a mission.
	You know, in other words, we're going to have awakenings happening literally in seconds, in record time, if you will.
	If the White Hats would just tell them the truth, this is the thing, they would garner an incredible following.
	Yes, they'd have some old school Republicans that are about to die anyway, That might protest, you know, because they love their status quo.
	That's not gonna be the future of the world.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	It's not.
	The future of the world is about the children.
	It's about young people and their ability to change on a dime is Probably more faster.
	It's faster and more sort of magical than you could imagine.
	Humans are Source.
	We are from Source.
	We will return to Source, and therefore we have all the qualities of Source.
	Therefore, there's no reason to limit your view of humans, as far as I'm concerned.
	Absolutely.
	And I've been, you know, Call it complaining or, you know, bitching, whatever you want to call it, you know, the White House will just throw us some type of bone.
	Hold somebody accountable, right?
	There is no such thing as election integrity.
	You know, there's been selections for a very, very, very long time.
	So this election after election after election, we know the truth about the COVID-19 violent weapon.
	We know what the jabs are doing, all these different things that nobody's held accountable.
	You know, from going back to Barry and Big Mike in the White House, that fast and furious thing, nobody held accountable.
	People died.
	You know, weapons, all these different things, you know, throw us a bone.
	Let's have a perp walk.
	Let's, you know, have somebody be held accountable because it seems like it's a perpetual situation where we know the truth.
	We can see, you know, what's happening because, you know, if we're wearing a wig, But yet there's still nobody, nothing, zero accountability.
	Even today, even nowadays, with this simple majority that we have in the House and the investigations they do, I think that's more for the normies than it is for the people who've been aware and awake because that brings the stuff more out to the mainstream.
	But still, there's no accountability.
	Well, yeah, it's, I mean, let me just say that, you know, because I do know a lot about the makeup of the, a lot of the senior members of the White Hats, You know, they are kind of, they come from that background.
	They come from, you know, even JFK Jr.
	You know, he learned from his father and from that whole world that he grew up in about mainstream politics.
	He lives and breathes that stuff.
	You know, he created an association of state, what are they called, secretaries of state who are running for office, right?
	In other words, he is That comes naturally to him.
	He's a political guy.
	But this is not just how the world works.
	And there are plenty of people who don't want to participate in what you call mainstream politics.
	And let me tell you that today I was looking to see what Trump was saying about this whole SVB Silicon Valley Bank debacle.
	And it's interesting because he This is, again, how strange, okay?
	We have to deal with these contradictions constantly.
	But he's saying, oh, you know, Biden's taking the system down or whatever, which is totally normal for him to say.
	But then he goes, and in the future, we're going to have a depression worse than back in the 1929 or something.
	I mean, like what?
	What are you saying?
	Are you saying things are going to get worse and worse and worse?
	And that all the banks are going to go down?
	Because you want to read something into what he just said.
	That's what we're talking about.
	How do the MAGA people, you know, if they pay attention, these ones who think, oh, we're just around the corner from the golden, whatever they call it.
	I mean, come on, you know.
	Do you think many people in this, because there's been such a lack of transparency, if you will, or, you know, that people are reading too much in, they're looking for comms in every little thing?
	Well, but you don't have to read anything into a statement like that.
	You understand?
	What I'm saying is he said point blank.
	I can quote it.
	It's on my telegram.
	I actually posted it on my telegram if you want to read it.
	It's also on his telegram.
	You know, for whoever posts for him and so on and so forth.
	But nonetheless, that's a Trump statement, supposedly, talking about, you know, there's going to be a crash worse than, you know, 29 or whatever he was saying.
	I'm not quoting him verbatim.
	I don't have the telegram thing in front of me.
	I saw it right before I came on the show, and I don't want to interfere with the bandwidth thing here, so I better not bring it on.
	Look, I pull it up right here.
	It says, with what is happening to our economy and with the proposals being made on the largest and dumbest tax increase in the history of the USA, times five, Joe Biden will go down as the Herbert Hoover of the modern age.
	We will have a Great Depression far bigger and more powerful than that of 1929.
	As proof, the banks are already starting to collapse.
	So that was- I mean, is that- Now that is not a comforting statement, okay?
	And I can tell you that I'm only, you know, I didn't do this for a real long time, but I'm trying to educate myself about the financial situation since we're entering this huge war over the finance.
	And I was watching Bloomberg and you can see that they have a directive from their producers and from, you know, the people that are running that network.
	Basically saying we want no one on that show today who is going to be saying in essence what Trump just said.
	They don't want anyone predicting further crashes right now, okay?
	So of course there was nobody.
	They had, you know, pundit after pundit after pundit.
	It's incredible.
	You know, the lies that people tolerate in our country, it's just incredible.
	So you say, what can we do?
	Well, as far as I'm concerned, we're doing the right thing.
	The ones of us that are exposing the lies on both sides of the aisle.
	OK, we should not be lied to any longer.
	We deserve the truth, we must demand the truth, and we must demand it every single day and every single hour.
	And if you hear something that somebody's saying, I don't care whether they're white, black, purple, yellow, an alien, or whatever, if it's a lie, if it strikes you because we have this resonating sort of ability between, and humans are amazing this way,
	between our heart and our mind that basically something comes along somebody says three words to you and it hits you and boom you know if it's true or false if you listen to that resonance you will get it you will know with beyond a shadow of a doubt what what's what and then you need to speak with that you need to trust your intuition you need to caution people you need to raise the raise the bar
	I guess, for the so-called truth tellers out there, and when they're, you know, when they're shoveling bullshit to make you feel better, stop it!
	Just stop that shit, okay?
	You know, enough already!
	You know, let's, let's, let's, you know, just Humans have a right to talk to each other truthfully, to tell each other the truth.
	We are in a sort of a transition time in which the truth is going to win.
	The truth is going to be what everyone is going to do in the future of Earth.
	We are not going to be in this lies and deception world.
	All of these people that are deceiving It doesn't matter whether they're wearing a black hat or a white hat.
	Deception is not the way of the world in the future.
	I can guarantee it.
	It's just how I see it.
	So, it's what everything I have learned, everything that I know about what's happening to the earth, etc.
	I mean, we as humans and humanity have sort of turned and looked at each other and basically said, stop this bullshit, let's tell the truth, you know?
	Exactly.
	I say it all the time, I kind of like it too.
	In the spiritual sense, the big grand scheme thing.
	I'm so blessed and lucky to be alive and be able to participate in this transition.
	We're ending this age of darkness and deceit, is what I call it.
	People call it different stuff.
	And we get to be here, participate, and help usher in the birth of a new age of love and light, I call it.
	Different people call it the Age of Aquarius, you know, the Thousand Years of Peace.
	You know, there's all this, you know, different terms for it, but there is a definitely a shift, a transition happening, and it's a universal thing.
	It's not just here, you know, here in America.
	It's a global situation, and yeah, Linda in the chat said, we all have to be patient.
	It will work out, you know, but other people in the chat here says, you know, Lori, great way to keep our vibes up.
	Fear porn and more propaganda.
	So done with it all.
	There's so many people that are Yeah, but you know, I realize I'm kind of put together a little differently than a lot of people that's been communicated to me.
	So I don't see, you know, when I am faced with an obstacle, That just makes me want to work harder.
	I am not a person, you know, like a wilting flower or whatever you call that.
	You know, I don't think that's the way to approach reality.
	And you say we're going to have a hundred years of peace, what, and then we're going to go back to war?
	I mean, listen, We're not going to have a hundred years of peace and enlightenment really because peace is actually a misnomer and I don't want to get into the all of that right now but the bottom line is If people don't tell the truth, and if the truth doesn't get out there, we will not have those hundred years of whatever kind of enlightenment or peace or whatever.
	It's dependent.
	I just want to say it's dependent on what we do now.
	Do you understand that?
	And, you know, I was saying this in other shows, we are the, in a sense, we're the engine.
	We're the magic behind the White Hats.
	If there is a group such as the White Hats, that I know for a fact there exists, some people question that, but if the good is going to win out, okay, then it's going to win out because we brought it to the floor.
	Because every single one of us Talk to our family, talk to our neighbors, talk to the world as we do here now and create a field of resonance where the waves go out.
	Human beings are not standing for it any longer.
	We want the truth and we can handle the truth and that's a fact.
	I'm with you a hundred percent.
	So if you, I'm going to share the screen real quick just to show people your website.
	Thanks.
	You can go to projectcamelotportal.com.
	And there's, I mean, like she was saying, she's not joking, there's tons and tons of information and videos of all her interviews and her written articles, all the links to all of her channels and information where you can find Carrie, Telegram, Facebook, Rumble, different things.
	Do you still have a viable YouTube channel or are you completely out of your phone? - It's a remnant.
	It's a remnant.
	There's not very many videos on there.
	I can't.
	I already have strikes against it.
	It's only been up there, you know, for a little while.
	I haven't used it because every time I post something they don't like it and give me a strike.
	I just put a couple interviews that I just did recently that I thought were pretty PG, I guess you'd call it.
	But who knows, they could give me strike any minute and I could lose that one too.
	That's just one of the remnants, but the main one was taken down two years ago.
	Right.
	Well, we're live on Facebook, Rumble, YouTube, Twitch, and Twitter.
	And how I play the game with YouTube, I'm on my fourth channel trying to stay alive on there, but I'll run the live stream on there.
	And, you know, like this interview, probably, you know, I'll leave it up there for 24 hours.
	Yeah.
	And then I'll pull it down and I'll point people to the Rumble channel because, you know, YouTube you get some reason you still get views and their technology for the live stream is fantastic.
	No, it's great to have an audience no matter where you can find them.
	You know, I did that for a while, although the last one I did where I got my final strike and they got rid of me was Robert David Steele in the middle of an Probably an hour, two hour interview said one sentence about COVID because the interview was not about COVID.
	It was about a tour he was doing and they it wasn't even up 24 hours and I got a premonition in the middle of the night that I should go and and mark that unlisted and I did.
	They took it down anywhere.
	Right, yeah, no, you gotta delete it completely.
	I've done that unlisting thing, and it's still, yeah, it's still waxing.
	Yes, well, it didn't used to.
	Is David, do you think he's still alive?
	Was he taken off?
	Oh, well, um, evidence is that he, he might have died because, uh, in part, well, I don't want to get into, I don't want anyone to sue me, but I did, you know, get to know him fairly well, so, for what it's worth.
	You know, he might be alive.
	At this point, it's very difficult to tell, but the evidence to the contrary that he might have been taken out is pretty solid.
	I mean, I think a lot of people have these conversations and I always say it's fun to talk about and banter about, you know, the different things.
	But in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter.
	You know, but that's still a division within the Patriot community.
	You know, and I think there's so much, that's part of the problem I think we're facing in getting this collective consciousness, as you're saying, you know, to drive this resonance for we the people to drive the White House to where we want.
	We're still fractured.
	You know, there's fragments of people and different things.
	You know, so people want to talk about, you know, the JFK Jr., you know, Michael Jackson, Lady Di, you know, Robert David Steele in the troop community, Kirsten W., you know, all these different people, you know, are they still around, you know, but, you know, does that really accomplish, does that move the ball forward?
	Well, I mean, I do think that it will to some degree when it gets, you know, for the ones that it's true and that really will come forward.
	I think that would move the ball forward.
	But as long as it's a.
	As long as it's out there in the maybe category, along with so many other things, you know, the doubters can continue to doubt, okay?
	But you know in your heart of hearts what's true and that you need to follow that.
	Yep, absolutely.
	So that's, that's beautiful.
	So yeah, I appreciate you taking the time here today with a great conversation.
	I was so enthralled in listening to you.
	I tried to monitor the chat.
	It was too much, you know, you're too, you bring forward too much great information.
	And I could spend days, you know, questioning and trying to understand because, you know, you were so, so much further along in the different things.
	I'm relatively newbie, you know, in the whole thing and understanding.
	You know, the different aspects of our history and where we're going.
	But I sincerely appreciate you and all the work that you do.
	Thank you.
	Keep up the fantastic work.
	I look forward, so this coming Thursday, today is Monday, this coming Thursday we're doing our Troopathon.
	All day event.
	Carrie is going to be one of the speakers there at that Truth-A-Thon on Thursday.
	So make sure it's going to be on my Rumble channel, Lewis' Rumble channel, Robert's Rumble channel.
	It's going to be streamed, you know, all kinds of different places.
	So make sure you tune in, everybody watching, to the Truth-A-Thon this coming Thursday.
	Starts, I believe, 8 a.m.
	Pacific and it'll go until whenever.
	That's awesome, yeah.
	The last time we did one it was 13 and a half hours we were live and I ended up with Juan Oseben and that was that was kind of funny him and I had a little going back and forth but we talked you talked about the collective consciousness and the white hats you know kind of gauging stuff but we were talking about the Brunson case yeah and he brought up he said he brought up the The Roe versus Wade thing.
	He said, you know, there was a majority of people who believed that it was time to change that.
	So I kind of questioned the press a little bit.
	I said, so the Supreme Court, you know, doesn't move on law and order and truth and justice.
	They move on public opinion.
	You know, so when we were doing that last time, that was during the whole letter writing thing for the Brunson case.
	where you know there was a very small number of letters allegedly that we were hoping for tens of millions of letters because we know what happened in 2020 and so for them to not be willing to look at any of the evidence uh is very really very very frustrating so you know that that public uh opinion aspect of moving the supreme court was very frustrating to me and i asked him about that he didn't have any answer
	Well, I think that we have to remember that nothing that goes on on planet Earth, or even off planet, is living in a vacuum.
	So, the Supreme Court does not exist in a vacuum.
	Therefore, it has to be, to some degree, responsive to the will of the people, if you will.
	Even if it's not taking it literally.
	So, they're human beings.
	They live and work in the world.
	They actually can't stop it.
	They can't stop the psychic, you know, the movement of the wind, the psychic wind, okay, that goes through their hair just like it does everyone else.
	We are psychic beings by nature, and so even those that try to isolate themselves from us are not going to be able to do so, and that includes the dark side, by the way.
	They are influenced, okay, and we are influencers.
	So we have these abilities.
	So I understand where Juan's going with the letter writing thing with the Brunson thing.
	I think there's potential there, but I also don't think the Brunson case is going to solve our problems because Let's just say we get rid of 338, you know, bad Congress people that have all been taken over and basically blackmailed to do the things that they do against our wishes.
	When you bring new people in, is that going to stop?
	What we have to do is get to the root of the problem and it is also true that this sort of this wave I talked about it's like in a sense you know Paul Laviolette who is you know a physicist and astrophysicist who basically talked about this wave coming at the earth and in a sense we're going into it and it's coming towards us but it is a wave
	That is impacting not just the Earth, but all of the planets in our solar system.
	And that truth is part of that wave.
	The exposure, the bringing of the light is happening.
	So we have this incredible wave at our back.
	It's in our favor that we will get through this time, that we will right the balance between the yin and the yang of this planet.
	We will not go all light, okay?
	Contrary to what a lot of You know, wishful thinkers have.
	That's not the way of the universe.
	There's a reason, there's a teaching reason behind the dark even existing.
	And for what it's worth, and a lot of people maybe don't want to hear this, but Source, God, the Creator, He's everything, okay?
	He's not just some things and not others.
	He's light and dark.
	The light is supreme.
	But light and dark is the way this particular sector of the Megaverse is put together and it's a learning.
	It is a school and souls come here to learn and to reach self-realization and enlightenment and then go beyond this.
	I just want to say that understanding that what we have is a situation where the needle has been way over on the dark side here on Earth for quite a long time.
	We are bringing it back to center.
	It's unlikely to go, you know, more to the light than the dark in that sense.
	But, you know, let's have a good thought and think that perhaps that could even happen.
	It's enough that we bring it back into balance, as far as I'm concerned.
	The challenges still will exist.
	You know, we have huge challenges ahead of us that we actually need to reach a certain degree of unity.
	We will always have factions that we don't agree with.
	Here on Earth.
	But if you can consider that we're being invaded by AI that is also coming from other galaxies, as well as beings that are both positive and negative.
	This is the wave of the future.
	This is not going to change overnight to nothing.
	We're not going to just suddenly live in some boring, blissful existence.
	Okay?
	As far as I'm concerned, boring.
	Um, you know, this is not the way of the world and it's not the future.
	So, you know, and none of you will be here to see any kind of future that will look like that.
	And you can actually thank your lucky stars for that.
	You know, there are sci-fi movies about that.
	You know, they're... Avoid the transhumanism they're trying to push us into?
	Or use AI as a tool?
	And having, you know, work for us and not overtake us?
	We can influence AI.
	I talk about influencing AI through the etheric.
	The dark can do it and so can we.
	We can do it with everything.
	In other words, again, if we are created by Source, and Source knew what our future looked like, don't you think that he would equip us with the ability to surmount and transcend?
	Of course he would.
	So, it's in us.
	All we need to do is find it.
	Awaken it, yes.
	We awaken it by asking questions and being hard and not willing to accept the bullshit that they're shoveling on us all the time.
	And that's why you're a fantastic leader and an inspiration for a lot of people in our movement.
	So, like I said, I appreciate you.
	Thank you, Bruce.
	I appreciate you.
	I appreciate what you're doing.
	I'll try talking with you and hopefully we can do it again sometime.
	Thank you.
	Make sure you get to Carrie's website.
	All of her stuff is there.
	You won't be disappointed.
	It'll give you a great education.
	So thanks again, Carrie.
	I will see you on Thursday.
	I'm not sure when the schedule is and when you're coming in, but I'll be there all day long.
	Okay, great.
	I'm going to co-host with Robert and Louis, so yeah.
	Excellent.
	Thanks again for all you do.
	All right.

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