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Feb. 22, 2023 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY PATRIOT UNDERGROUND: TRAINS, TRUMP AND THE WHITE HATS

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Today is February 21st, 2023.
	Thank you so much for joining me, folks, to discover the truth beneath the surface.
	I really do appreciate everybody out there taking the time to listen.
	So tonight, I have the honor of welcoming Keri Cassidy back to the show for our ninth conversation.
	Keri needs no introduction, particularly to this audience.
	But for those out there who may be new, what I will say is this.
	She has been at the forefront of the truther movement for over 18 years now.
	With her website, ProjectCamelotPortal.org.
	Did I get that correct that time?
	No.
	Oh my goodness!
	I'm sorry, say it again.
	Well, I have three URLs.
	So, ProjectCamelot.org is the old one, but they all go to the same place.
	ProjectCamelotPortal.com and ProjectCamelot.tv.
	All those are because we are banned in certain countries.
	Okay, well, I apologize for that, Carrie.
	One of these days, I'm going to write it down.
	I'm going to get it right.
	But anyway, suffice to say, folks, Carrie has been, like I said, she's been at the forefront of the Truth or Movement for more than 18 years now.
	She has interviewed whistleblowers thousands of times, and she has contributed an enormous amount of knowledge, really, to the general acquisition of knowledge that folks out there are looking for, those out there who are actually seeking the truth.
	And one of the things that I love about Kerry so much is that she is really fearless in her pursuit of the truth.
	That was one of the things that really drew me to her in the first place.
	And I do believe that that is a sentiment that's shared by many folks out there in the audience.
	So, I mean, she tells it like it is, according to the way that she sees it.
	And her no-nonsense approach really resonates, I think, with a great amount of folks out there, especially now, as we're getting into these critical phases of this war.
	This covert war, I guess you could say, starting to become overt and all of this ugliness really that's bursting onto the surface associated with the deep state in what I believe are its final death throes.
	And certainly we're going to talk about all that tonight and more.
	So Carrie, I'm sorry for butchering your website name.
	Welcome back to the show.
	Thank you.
	Glad to be here.
	All right, well, there's a lot going on, as you know, and I'm certain that tonight we're going to cover the landscape, as they say, but so much is really centering around these railway attacks on, really, we the people, which began in Ohio and they've been spreading all across the country.
	There was another derailment, I believe it was in Nebraska today.
	There was another series of fires.
	There was one in Brooklyn, New York, I believe.
	Also one in Florida.
	And things are really just insane right now.
	And it's absolutely incredible to hear that the government is telling us that the air in and around East Palestine is safe to breathe, while we had to wear a mask for the better part of two years for a virus that's never actually been isolated.
	Because it's not really a virus as we know.
	But the point here is that we've been under attack now for quite some time.
	And it's been escalating daily.
	And we've now arrived at this phase of the war which I believe has always been inevitable.
	And that is that the silent war Eventually was going to transition into the beginning of the storm, as it's called.
	And my general perspective is that's where we are right now.
	So why don't we begin there, and then we can kind of connect the dots, we can sort of tie in virtually everything else that's going on right now.
	So yesterday, you had sent me some information pertaining to this cloud of vinyl chloride and this associated threat to virtually everyone east of the Mississippi River.
	And we saw, you know, yet another massive fire in Ohio just yesterday.
	We got word that Trump is planning to visit Ohio.
	I believe it's this week and maybe next week, but fairly soon, which has a lot of folks wondering, you know, how could that be possible if it's such a toxic environment?
	But nevertheless, He's visiting, he's acting presidential, because of course he is the real president, as we know, and of course fake Biden is over there supposedly in Ukraine, where there are these air raid sirens going off and nobody seems to really be bothered by it at all.
	So it's massively obvious that we're living inside just an insane, insane time right now, no matter how you slice it, and what is happening I think is insulting to the American people on multiple different levels, and I do believe that it's having the effect of waking people up.
	So why don't you give us your thoughts on what's happening with all these train derailments, these large-scale fires that we're seeing all over the country.
	You know, what do you make of all this, Carrie?
	What do you think is going on?
	Sure.
	So, well, bottom line is that this is an escalating situation in my view, that they are Trying to flush out the White Hats.
	This is the Illuminati response to the things that are going on behind the scenes that the White Hats are involved in, which is rescuing the children, capturing the pedophiles, putting them at Guantanamo Bay for future prosecution and.
	And tribunals in theory and and all the other things that they're involved in.
	That's much of which we don't even know.
	However, certainly there are a few things like 107 just did a video with Nino back.
	I think was on the 14th in which he, he actually admitted to tribunals happening, but he said they're only happening with spies so called spies.
	So.
	That's kind of a vague statement it.
	He also goes against the idea that, you know, things that have been out in the network and even that other certain spokespeople are saying, like, you know, Nancy Pelosi and her husband were arrested and they were flown to Guantanamo and all this kind of thing.
	And that certain people are replaced by clones and or doubles or stand ins.
	Actors, etc in face masks, etc.
	So he is, you know, has not been a person who has talked a lot about tribunals, but this time on that show, he actually came forward saying, well, they're starting out small.
	It's less than 12 and they're so called spies, whatever that means from various governments.
	1 assumes, although maybe spies in our country as well.
	So.
	I think that's interesting, but if you look at what's happening, and you start to psychoanalyse what I do, which is analyse the enemy, because they're surveilling us non-stop, they're analysing us, but I think that we need to be analysing them to really know What's coming in the future?
	What kind of attitude they might have towards us at the time?
	And so on so forth.
	So this involves the train derailments that are now mounting.
	There's several of them and there's even one in California where a woman came forward last night and testified about one in what appears to be the San Joaquin Valley.
	A long line of cars that are just sitting there that do appear to have Some kind of liquid in them.
	That ranchers in the area are concerned.
	So that's, I put that on Telegram in case you haven't seen it.
	Like I say, my Telegram is super active.
	So I put tons of stuff on there.
	So if you're not subscribed, you should, you know, join us.
	And I also put everything on my website as much as possible.
	Telegram is kind of great because you can grab news items, put them on there and then make comments about them.
	So that's why it's so useful.
	I'm also on Truth Social, in case you don't know that, and I do the same thing over there.
	And I Twitter a lot of stuff as well.
	So I'm very active all day long and all night long.
	Sometimes even late into the night, like last night, I was up all hours and writing articles and tweeting.
	And I do put some things on Facebook, but it's not my main platform.
	I don't, um, I've had issues with them and so on and so forth.
	Um, obviously I'm banned from YouTube.
	So if you don't know that.
	You know, even though there's some remnants over there, I can't even get in there, so I can't answer you if you try to text me on a on a YouTube that you find a remnant of Project Camelot.
	So, all of my videos are on Rumble, my website, and odyssey.com, the Project Camelot channels on those platforms.
	So, I know that's kind of like a side issue, but it's kind of important because I put out tons of stuff and then there's a lot of people who I guess don't realize that and don't know where to go.
	All you have to do is go to the front page of my website and you'll see across in red all my social media and click on those if you want to participate.
	So what else?
	Let me ask you this.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry, just to finish the answer.
	So what I'm trying to do is Analyze the personality, the procedures, the way they think, and what they may be doing and why.
	And then how the White Hats are actually taking actions at this time, strangely, that might even be similar to what The Dark Hats are doing, or trying to fake out the Dark Hats.
	And so it's this become an intelligence game that is, you know, a lot of quid pro quo, a lot of, you know, trying to one-upmanship, trying to fake out the other side.
	And since they're both using AI, What one might want to say is a quantum computer with AI or however you want to characterize that.
	And looking glass is another way of looking at it.
	The idea that they have different platforms is maybe not quite correct.
	Because I'm even told that the AI is planetary wide and so they may actually be using the same AI.
	So this is where the plot thickens and things get even more confusing.
	But to take it back a few steps and just say, okay, we've got a lot of terrain derailments, we've got amounting sort of evidence like Turkey earthquake, NATO doing payback there because Turkey's trying to withdraw from NATO.
	And he even was looking like it might want to be joining the White Hats.
	Of course, that's not acceptable, so they give him one earthquake.
	That wasn't good enough, so they're giving him another.
	Whether Erdogan is going to, you know, change sides, go back to NATO, change his, you know, way of approaching the situation in Ukraine and everything else over in that side of the world.
	Uh, is not clear at the moment, but what I'm trying to say here is that these things are all linked and, um, and there's a lot here.
	I've written articles.
	So, if you go to my website and just click on the 1st, few articles.
	And then I also do interviews.
	So they're kind of with people talking about my articles, in essence, and the information there.
	So if you kind of get lost when I'm talking here, then you can go over there and check out what I've written down about everything.
	And often I have links and pictures and all kinds of stuff.
	So it can be helpful.
	But the bottom line is to understand that they have an agenda.
	And that they are not, in my opinion, okay, I know that I've got a lot of people out there that love to say the Illuminati are running out of, you know, places to go there, you know, the board is limited the moves they can make, but the bottom line is they can always make these.
	Huge moves that have to do with eliminating large groups of the population, you know, doing what they did in Turkey.
	I don't know how many people are claimed to have died over there.
	Now they've hit Ohio in a big way.
	That's like a massive one.
	And then they've got follow up one's truck.
	Things, things with trucks, what they are basically trying to do in the United States now and attacking us in the United States.
	So I wrote a major article talking about White House down, that movie, and the fact that we are now being attacked on our own soil by the Illuminati, by the people who stepped into the White House, took it over after a stolen election in 2020.
	Why people don't focus on that, understand, you know, how that all works together, and understand that in my view, the evidence at the present is the Whitehats are not stepping back.
	If anything, they're escalating their approach, and they're getting more and more serious.
	In fact, even after the Turkey earthquake, Klaus Schwab talked about a black swan event.
	A black swan event is something unexpected, seems to come out of nowhere, and takes everyone by surprise.
	It could involve a lot of black swan events in the past have been referenced in the financial sector, so that might be a hint that it's going to be financial.
	But whatever it is, all I'm saying is these people are on You know, they're aggressing.
	They're not withdrawing.
	They're not even pushed in a corner because there is no corner to be pushed.
	If you both have the same weaponry, you can both use that weaponry at different alternate times.
	And I just did a dark outpost in which I explain about Tesla tech, how this is not necessarily, you know, the triggering of the earthquake.
	Yes, it's man-made.
	It doesn't have to come from HAARP.
	It could.
	But there's more than one harp on the planet, and that's only one place.
	Tesla Tech can be, you know, you can drive a truck a few miles away from your target and decimate a building.
	So this is Scalar Weaponry.
	It's talked about by Tom Bearden.
	It's known by both sides, and it's handled by both sides.
	So if you want nothing but weather wars, they'll give you that as well.
	So we'll get, you know, A tornado over here, an earthquake over there, you know.
	And actually, that's what we've been witnessing on the planet for now many years, ever since they got the weather technology.
	And both sides have been using it against the other side.
	And other countries have been using it against us and against other sides.
	So this also gets into what the balloon is actually tracking.
	And where it may be either dropping off a payload, scanning the environment underground to see what's really there, you know, mapping and doing things that satellites can't necessarily do on the granular level.
	At least, of course, according to a mass, you know, lots of miles.
	So just some thoughts along those lines.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Well, you covered a lot of things that I actually had, you know, some specific questions on, so we can kind of revisit some of those.
	Now, before we, you know, part ways with the whole train derailment issue, I just wanted to kind of get your take, because I was having a discussion with SG Anon the other day about these train derailments, and he was, and I'm sure you probably heard by this point, very encouraged that this is really jolting the consciousness of these younger demographics, and he, you know, provided some anecdotal
	you know, experience that he's had, you know, all, and there have been a whole bunch of TikTok videos, and there's been a really big response on social media.
	I'm not sure if you really had a chance to, you know, to see much of that, but it does seem like this younger demographic that we thought was just, I mean, at least I thought it was just bulletproof ignorant, you know, there was just no way they were ever going to, you know, kind of crack their programming a little bit, but because kind of crack their programming a little bit, but because they're so brainwashed about protecting the environment, and they can see it really objectively that Biden, whoever, you know, whoever he is, I'm sure haven't figured out that he's not really Biden at this point, but whoever the resident is, is fully committed to supporting Ukraine for
	but whoever the resident is, is fully committed to supporting Ukraine for as long as it takes, in his own words, but then, of course, he won't lift a finger to provide any kind of federal assistance for what's turning out to really be, by many people's
	Now, there are different opinions on that, and one of the, you know, I'm glad that you brought up your Telegram channel, because one of the articles that you posted today was a link to Dr. Lee Merritt, and she actually had kind of a different take on this whole thing, and just talked about how The real threat here could be that, you know, they're trying to generate the fear so that they have a narrative to down the road have the EPA be able to seize farmland, which would be, you know, very consistent with some of their other
	What appear to be their other objectives, like burning down the food processing plants, Bill Gates buying up all this farmland, you know, they attempt to take control of our food production.
	And so she provided a very interesting take on that, that the vinyl chloride is dispersing in the atmosphere.
	It's not really, you know, getting the high readings in the Ohio River that folks were expecting, that it's kind of, you know, nature is sort of doing its thing.
	And it's not, while it's a threat, it's not the, of the magnitude that a lot of folks out there are saying.
	So I kind of wanted to just sort of throw that out there and get your take, because I know you had posted the link to that, you know, that short podcast by Dr. Merritt there, and just kind of get your take on that, and then, you know, do you think that this is waking people up?
	What's your take?
	Okay, now I've written an article in the middle of the night last night, Poisoning Our Land, The Drive to Occupy America, and I get into some of these details, but What I think there's, there's a couple of problems here with the Dr. Merritt, her information.
	I did post it because, you know, giving her the benefit of the doubt, so to speak.
	But this other particular person whose, whose last name, it's on, I have an article with the link to a very important article that was pushed around by a journalist.
	I think her last name is Taylor, but anyway, it's all on my website.
	So, I can pull these things up for us here if you want to do that visually.
	Yeah, feel free.
	Okay, but the bottom line with this stuff is, first of all, this is one of, I've got a White House down, that's one of the most recent important articles with links, and then basically this
	This one with the image of the Steinbeck novel that has to do with Grapes of Wrath and what's going on because there's a meaning in what they're doing and it's very important to realize that they are motivated and totally on board with the agenda that has to do with the reptilians and the greys and that they are managed by an AI, an off-planet AI.
	And that includes the Dracos and maybe a great deal of the what we call aliens being managed again and taken over a long time ago by what is called the off-planet AI or artificial intelligence.
	When you look at that now, I know that people like Merit are not going to look at that.
	I understand that the mainstream narrative won't look at that and most of the alternative won't look at that.
	But this is actually the truth of what's going on.
	So what they want is they want our planet.
	They want to allow their they've done a whole abduction program that has generated a lot of human hybrids a human alien hybrids.
	That's the gray alien hybrids.
	Those are the people that are coming in and droves through the.
	The southern border and being allowed to get in both by the White Hats and by the dark side.
	You have to wrap your mind around this game again being played by both sides.
	Both sides are culpable in what's happening here.
	The White Hats have supposedly a good reason for doing what they're doing, which is to expose the dark as for what it is.
	And that includes allowing them, even with foreknowledge of, let's say, let's just hypothetically say, they knew that there was going to be a hit.
	They may have known there was going to be a train derailment.
	They may have gotten wind of it.
	And then they had to decide whether to let it go ahead or to interfere with it.
	And this is happening over and over and over again.
	With every action of the dark side, if you can appreciate that the Illuminati versus the White Hats are both using AI, they're both using looking glass, and so they may be both getting the same information, maybe in different ways, but similar.
	So what that does is put them their focus in the same places, and it's very possible for the White Hats to warn the people, you know, which in a loose sense of the word, you can say Juan's been warning the people.
	We're supposed to have what he calls a Cuban missile crisis event.
	Well, in some ways, Ohio appears to be possibly shades of that, okay?
	If you believe what the first person who, or the best article that I think came out last night or yesterday, again, I'm going to switch.
	Let me see, am I showing this?
	Okay, hopefully this will come up on the screen.
	So, you can see that, right?
	White House down, my article?
	Yep.
	If I scroll down here, you'll see that I quoted the article here, and I basically linked to it, and I'm going to go over to it so you can see exactly what article I'm talking about.
	So this is the journalist, Texas Lindsay, she calls herself.
	She put it on a substack, but originally it was published by Adam Gertner from Very Virology
	substack.com who appears to be a virologist and who uh Lindsay this journalist appears to have um believe is is is actually very very good at what they they have done and the explanation is extremely thorough it's also a huge cautionary note of you know caution cautioning basically the entire eastern united states as to how this thing is is moving and that
	Because it's so completely different than the Lee Merit information, what we're really dealing with is how is it, just like COVID, we've got people who are talking about ingredients and totally disagree.
	They're both scientists.
	They're both, you know, one is supposedly a doctor, the other one's a virologist, and they don't agree.
	How can something be, according to this article, permeating the entire Eastern seaboard such that at least the rider is saying they would leave the country?
	Or at least that area of the United States like right away and they even give you the mileage of how far it's going the substance saying 2.5 million gallons of one of the most toxic substances known to man.
	Well that you cannot underestimate how completely.
	Lee Merritt and this person are in disagreement okay and so what is what goes on there it's the same thing so so what I've been talking about on the last video that I did is the looking for the signs of patterns in the Illuminati behavior and in
	in these incidents that we're experiencing because this is not the end of them certainly and whenever they do one of these things it's a hit a direct hit at the white hats because it's a hit on the people and the you could say that the illuminati and the white hats are on two side two opposite sides but the white hats have one
	mitigating factor and that is they're trying to preserve human life whereas the dark hats could care less and will get rid of as much collateral damage wise as as they could desire and in fact they love human sacrifice and they consider killing you a sacrifice to their god the devil bolak satan whatever lucifer and so And they feed off it.
	So, when you have two sides, but they are also using some similar tactics.
	Um, to operate, this is when it gets actually very convoluted.
	And of course, this is where you come to a lot of the times when I'm writing articles or texting Juan, and I text everything to Juan that I put out there that I think is important for him to know as well.
	I assume he knows everything.
	I assume that he, the White Hats have formed a relationship with the NSA.
	They can call up any data they want on any human on the planet.
	Because that's what the NSA has.
	So once you know that, then they could be watching any of us just as much as the Dark Hats, okay?
	So I assume that I'm a person of interest and that they're watching everything I say and do, but Because I developed this sort of communication with Juan early on, I continue to use it.
	Now he told me at a certain point that he has a group watching his texts because he gets over 300 texts a day and he has more than one phone with 300 texts a day.
	So, you know, you do the math.
	I know I have trouble keeping track of everything that people write to me, and there's no way in hell I can answer them all.
	It's just that there's not enough time in a human's life to respond to everyone.
	So, understanding that on Juan's part, but at the same time, I'm supposedly a friend and a colleague, So possibly he sees some of the things that I send, but whatever.
	So the point I'm trying to make here is that what's going on with the White Hats and the Dark Hats is that slowly but surely they're coming closer together in the way they operate.
	And that's kind of by default because when secrecy is your rule, Then you can obviously think that it's kind of like us and Russia during the Cold War.
	We were, you know, you get spies and the spies are doing the same thing to each other.
	You know, they're using the same techniques, right?
	And there's spy versus spy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And all that kind of thing.
	So it's, it's not a no, it's really a no brainer to understand that when analyzing these two sides and what they're doing, They play some similar games and that also gets into this.
	I suppose later we're going to talk about the whole feel good lost ski broadcast where he was told that Trump was going to give a speech at the Super Bowl and what happened with that.
	We can get into that if you want as well.
	Sure, absolutely.
	You know what, since you brought it up, why not just go there now?
	Tell us a little bit about that.
	My understanding was that there was a real credible threat, and this is kind of, well, I mean, it really perfectly aligned with what we're talking about here.
	Like you say, I mean, it gets very, very convoluted trying to figure out who's pulling the strings.
	How much did the White Hats know?
	Are they actually in a position to be able to see these things coming?
	Are they getting caught by surprise to any extent by the Dark Hats?
	You know, a lot of folks out there, I think, kind of early on in this journey got very, very comfortable.
	I think myself included to a certain extent that, you know, with this concept that the White Hats were in full control and that we're watching a movie and that, you know, we're, you know, this is all playing out.
	So that people can wake up and you know I took a lot of heart in that early on and you know there's still a major part of me that believes that to be true in certain aspects but then of course there's also these reports that we're getting, you know, of these credible threats that just continue to, in some ways, not to overuse the term, but to derail perhaps the plan that the White Hats might have at any given time and cause them to maybe shift course.
	I mean, I've heard this with reference going all the way back to the inauguration, you know, that they were going to have the Marines come in and there was, you know, there were still, you know, tactical nukes or some sort of other, you know, massive weapon of mass destruction, quote unquote, you know, out there that was preventing them from doing that.
	So why don't you, you know, dig into that a little bit, you know, what Phil Godlewski had to say about what was being planned for the Super Bowl.
	And certainly that was right around the same time that all the UFOs started popping into the news and everything else.
	So give us your breakdown of that.
	Okay, well, let me just say that I went all the way back to Roswell and realized that the balloon idea Emerging at the same time as the excuse for Raj Roswell that has been, you know, alive for 70 years is now re-emerging.
	Fast forward to this time when we have balloons again that are supposedly being shot down and UFOs emerging at the same time in our skies.
	Okay, so clearly this is a dark agenda to give them an out.
	They can always say, well, it was a weather balloon.
	In the end, right?
	That's what they want.
	Mainstream people to think those balloons are actually, although occasionally there's been an article saying it contained more than just a weather balloon and so and so forth.
	And I do believe, by the way, that the CP, the Chinese, the front.
	You know, the face of China is going along with the dark agenda, okay?
	That doesn't mean that Xi is not commandeering another side of China that is not necessarily on the CCP side, but the face they're presenting is going along with the dark agenda in many ways.
	The balloon situation is indication of that, okay?
	They're saying, yes, it was ours, and yeah, you know, playing this game.
	Like, when in reality, I've even got individuals telling me, and this was just like in droves, people saying, no, it's, it's a DARPA operation.
	DARPA is doing it.
	Well, DARPA is deep state, okay?
	Most of it, it seems.
	So, maybe it's infiltrated by the White Hats, but it, it appears to, to be in a dark hat operation.
	So, Um, this may appear to be off the topic, but it's actually not.
	So when you look.
	At what's happening now, we've got a fake alien agenda being rolled out based on the past where they use something that I say, you know, what it what it can give them is that if they try to do a holographic, you know, full out.
	You know, for the television, you know, alien invasion type thing with craft and so on and so forth and holograms.
	They could blow it and they may have to back off some of this stuff, including this latest foray with UFOs and balloons.
	And so they've got the balloons there to give them cover.
	so to speak, an excuse so that they don't have to admit that those are real craft flown by aliens and or that they reverse engineered, which I've got here on the wall.
	So I dug this out of my stuff lately because they were talking about, you know, the fact that these UFOs could be ours and could be theirs and And it's important to know, if you don't know, that we have reverse engineered lots of alien technology for so many years.
	And that goes back to even the Nazis and the Foo Fighters.
	So that's how many years we're talking about.
	So just, you know, here, this is from Gordon Novell, one of my famous interviews.
	Highly recommend you go watch that.
	I just put it at the front of my Page because I wanted people to to actually go see that it's you know, he was a CIA asset or even employee and you know, it goes on from there and and we have a lot of fun in that interview.
	It's quite fascinating.
	I was told that it was shown up and down the halls of the CIA that everyone loved it.
	Because he's something of a gangster.
	He's passed on now and I believe they killed him.
	He went into the hospital with some kind of toe injury and like the next day he was dead.
	And I just happened to talk to him crossing the desert at night.
	He called me like I think the night of right before he died or you know in a few days, within a few days of that.
	And he was talking about his frustration with the ARB The deals he was trying to make with the CIA, too, because he was trying to kind of reinvent the wheel.
	They'd already reverse engineered these craft, but he wanted to do it like in the public domain.
	So they kept taking him for a ride, specifically this guy named Ron Pound Dolphy, who was head of the Weird Desk on CIA back in those days.
	I think he's moved on from that job now, but he was, you know, in that job.
	For like decades.
	And he was a good friend of Gordon Novell, but he kept jerking them around.
	So Gordon was getting frustrated.
	And on the call with me, as I was crossing the desert at night, he's telling me that he was going to go to this, take his technology to the Saudis.
	Now, of course, that would be violating any number of national security oaths and so on and so forth.
	So there you've got a reason for them to take them out rather suddenly.
	But that's just typical, okay, of how they operate.
	So they took him for a ride for years and I used to call him Sisyphus.
	That was like my nickname for him because he would roll the boulder of technology up the hill, up the mountain, and then at the very top they would push, you know, push him and drop it down again to the very bottom so he would have to start over again.
	So that's what he was doing with his life for the last, I don't know, 40 years.
	Okay, so I digress.
	So going back to this situation, Phil is definitely working with the White Hats in my opinion.
	I know a lot of people think he's a fake and they think all kinds of things.
	I did some investigation of his background.
	I think that some of it is very legitimate.
	He's currently in a court case and he's doing videos about the court case.
	So what that does is He actually started his video in talking about the Trump speech at the Super Bowl by explaining how he might have been or might be a fall guy for the White Hats.
	In other words, and this works both ways.
	It works in Phil's favor if it happens and it also works for the White Hats.
	So I believe that this whole rollout Of a supposed Trump speech at the Super Bowl, which in which the AI would go gather the evidence from 2018 of various speeches, including that one and concoct a speech, right?
	That would be fake and people would track it down and realize it was fake.
	But that doesn't matter, because the only people who track these things down are us, and we're not the ones that this market research is aimed at.
	So what the White Hats are constantly trying to do is gauge, if they do this, how will the audience, you know, how will the patriots and the non-patriots react?
	And then they always have this wall in front of them that says, avoid civil war.
	So they don't want us fighting among ourselves while we're being invaded, which is intelligent.
	Okay.
	Makes sense.
	If you're in military, but at the same time.
	How hobbling yourself in that way when civil war may indeed be inevitable because of the splits in the population, you know, and so it goes.
	So what this does is trot out what could happen.
	How would the audience react if they knew that Trump was going to make a speech?
	Got stopped by a quote unquote credible threat from the dark side.
	And then the speech in which, you know, that Phil read.
	That came through as a leaked speech.
	All right?
	So, all of this can be done by the White Hats in order to test the waters.
	If the real thing happened, how would people react?
	They then trace it.
	They see who listens to his video, who gets it second-hand, third-hand, so on, who misinterprets it, who goes along with it, who... And then, why was it important?
	Because As you saw, if you watch the video, Phil gets very emotional.
	The reason he gets emotional is on point because he is a dedicated, you know, devoted MAGA member.
	Some even think he... I saw somebody saying he might even write some of Trump's speeches himself.
	He's definitely a master techie.
	I don't think you can take that away from him.
	This is his background and why he's of use to the White Hats.
	He's basically a soldier in the White Hats, as far as I'm concerned.
	You've met him personally, right?
	No.
	Oh, you haven't?
	No, but, well, I can't go into certain things, but all I can tell you is what I know.
	Okay, so, the point I'm trying to make here, I'm just giving you my take, okay?
	This is based to some degree on research and to some degree because I'm a psychic intuitive on the information I have.
	So, what I would say is that it's no coincidence that he began the video by talking about being a fall guy for the White Hats.
	You know, to take the blame, to take the heat off of them.
	But at the same time, if you're a fall guy for the White Hats, if they discredit you in the process, then people will, you know, you're protected, okay?
	Because you are like You know, a so-called fool that would make you look.
	Look like a fool to them to the people.
	Okay, which indeed tons of people that I tried to send this information to didn't even want to consider it because they weren't on his side.
	Now, there are plenty of people that are because he has a very large following.
	So all I'm telling you is he's a, I think you call him a polarizing character.
	I am a polarizing character and so it goes.
	So all I'm saying is that the White Hats would use this device.
	It's a device.
	It's an intelligence device.
	It's a counterintelligence device actually.
	It's where you take somebody who actually is a lawyer, loyal, you know, employee or soldier in your army
	and you ask them to go out on a limb to expose themselves in such a way that they look like a fall guy even though in reality you're going to bring them back into the fold and they'll be protected etc etc so it's it's it's again it's a counterintelligence move um in fact a lot of what goes on with the illuminati and again with the white hats is all
	craft from the intelligence agencies.
	Everything they do, the way they operate, you can break it all down along those lines, okay?
	So if you've ever studied that, which I have studied it very closely, you know, by reading novels and watching spy movies and doing my own research and non-fiction, you know, and all this and reading what spies talk about their craft and so on, you begin to understand there's a game afoot and this is the game.
	And it goes on and on and on.
	Well, it's very interesting because, you know, one of the things that I've questioned in the past is if everything that we believe to be true about, let's just say the vaccine, for example, that Trump knew about the vaccine.
	And I mean, that's been one of the biggest things, one of the biggest issues for people, you know, is how is he continually pushing this vaccine, right?
	So, you know, if if he were, you know, one of the things that I question is what happens when the truth comes out?
	We find out about, you know, the vaccine as where we are, really.
	I mean, we're kind of in the beginning stages of that right now.
	How does Trump come out of that on the other end, having pushed it so vehemently and so forth?
	And, you know, if if he was actually going to be set up as a fall guy, if that if the White Hats were going to somehow present, how would they present that information to the public?
	And, you know, in a sense, how would they explain Trump's role in that?
	that.
	Does that make sense?
	Funny enough, yeah, of course.
	Funny enough, in the recent interview with Nino, this happened on February 8th.
	I'm going to share my screen again.
	So you can see the picture a good way to find his latest stuff.
	You got to put latest on rumble, but this is the picture that you'll see during the interview, right?
	So this is Nino, you know, and the whole background.
	So a lot of times the you know, it looks slightly different one moves around a lot, etc, etc.
	So all I'm saying is in the February 14th, I think is the right date.
	Um, interview with Nino, he actually talks about this for 1 of the 1st times in some amount of detail.
	Okay.
	He says, and I've always known this, but.
	He says that.
	This vaccine thing and it's been proven by the way by David Martin and the patents and so on so forth and tons of evidence that's come out in the alternative but of course never in the mainstream that this plan to give us a disease that called COVID that was it's actually crafted by the aliens and given to the scientists And so and so forth that contains nanographene oxide and the spike proteins and the mRNA.
	In other words, this is a package that they delivered on humanity that was planned going back.
	At least to 1999 by the patents, if you follow the patents, and then there's other evidence of even before that.
	So.
	Please understand that we're dealing with an enemy who has been.
	in control of or trying to control with the help of various alien races dark side alien races humanity going back eons okay going back to the egyptians and before that so they have plans for us and they have a huge litany of negative takeover plans for what they're going to do with the human race
	And what it is, is to turn us into cyborgs and then androids, and to have us, you know, basically under complete control, and that we go out and conquer other planets as their army.
	So, you know, once you know the overall agenda, Then you begin to understand and break down.
	None of these things that are happening now, these are like skirmishes in that compendium, if you will, of controlling humanity and diabolical plans that these people have had in their sort of backpack forever.
	This COVID thing was on the books, absolutely being rolled out before Trump ever ran for office.
	In fact, as far as I'm concerned, he had to make a deal with the dark side through his own Illuminati contacts that he has developed over time.
	And this is another thing we can talk about is how these reporters, Mike Gill and so on, don't get What they've had to do in order to fight the dark side at all.
	So both John F. Kennedy Jr.
	and Trump grew up.
	learning at the feet of the illuminati that is extremely valuable since they're leading the revolution against them okay and without that kind of knowledge they probably would have failed a long time ago as a military even as a military off effort so when you look at the the deals that have to be made and what did trump do he wrote a book on how to make a deal So he's like, you know, a master par excellence of making a deal with dark side operators.
	That's, you know, that's what he does.
	And you can't fault him for that because otherwise we've got mutually assured destruction.
	Go back to the Godfather.
	You've got to deal with these people.
	You can't just kill them all overnight.
	They'll just kill- you'll take one, they'll take one, and eventually we have no people left.
	So it's- that doesn't work, all right?
	Yes, they're going to try to kill some of them, and yes, they're trying to kill some of us, you know?
	It's quid pro quo, but it's a constant battle, and so it's- it is like chess in the sense that when you take one person's, you know, pawn or whatever, and they take your knight, And then you take their queen or whatever it is.
	So this is, I mean, if I can stress anything in this interview, I am very dismayed by certain pundits out there that are pumping hopium at the people.
	What does hopium really do?
	What hopium does is relax you.
	It leaves you undefended, It gives you, it makes you less alert rather than more alert.
	And it takes, it disempowers you as to empowering you.
	So yes, lots of people are addicted to hopium.
	They can't live without it.
	I have friends who, you know, it doesn't matter what I say to them, they have to say some hopium thing back to me, drives me out of my mind.
	Because I'm, you know, I'm not like this.
	I don't know why I'm not like this.
	I actually don't find hopium, you know, a good thing.
	I want to know if there really is hope, I mean true hope, which I do believe we have true hope because, yes, we have the creator.
	Why does the creator want to see one of his creations destroyed?
	Okay, fair enough.
	And we are backed by lots of positive Various alien races, whatever you want to call them, that also want to see this experiment on Earth succeed, okay?
	So, but they don't get involved.
	Okay, this is a defining moment, all right?
	And again, I'm not going to repeat names, but you'll know who I'm talking about.
	There are certain people out there that are saying, you know what?
	We're going to take care of this.
	We got rid of that one, and we got rid of that one, and everything's clear now, so you people are fine.
	Don't worry about a thing, okay?
	That is a negative, a person working for the dark side.
	That's a negative race, okay?
	Why?
	Because this is a free will sector, and the people that are going to save us is us, all right?
	And the white hats are part of us.
	To their benefit, they are, you know, basically came out of
	humanity right they're not sitting on the sidelines uh observing they are deep in the trenches and they are also in danger every day of their lives so give them some credit you know i agree absolutely but but it's just i want to clarify people's minds because when you're so obsessed with good news and that's all you want to hear and all you want to see
	It blinds you, and it disempowers you, and it actually makes you weak.
	So, rather than do that, I actually tell it like it is.
	I try to give a balance to both sides to some degree, but the fact of the matter is, is that we are on Earth.
	Where we have been, you know, if there's a barometer, the barometer has been way over on the dark side for a very long time.
	There's no way it's going to suddenly after 7 years, let's say the white hats have been operational in hiding for 7 years.
	It's not going to come back even to the middle right away.
	And this so there's it could.
	Okay.
	This is the weird dichotomy.
	As humans, we have incredible powers, and at any time we can change the game, because we could agree to change the game.
	But that takes a certain enlightened group, and that group needs to be bigger than a certain critical mass, if you can appreciate that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Now what we're doing here, you and I, is just that.
	We are attempting to change the critical mass of thinking out there of the programmed masses who accidentally stumble on our video or watch some things but not others and have these sort of preconceived programmed pieces of blocks in their head.
	One of the blocks is global warming.
	There is no global warming, okay?
	And it's not caused by us, and it's not caused by cows, okay?
	Yes, the solar system has seen some heating up of the planet, but that is a solar system-wide situation, and David Wilcock and Richard Hoagland wrote articles about that, God, I don't even know, 20 years ago.
	So, you know, the trouble is with critical thinking.
	Now, yes, I completely believe that young people are closer and have more ability to think critically than possibly their programmed sort of middle-aged people.
	So, I think the way older people are less programmed, I think it's probably the people in the middle that are the most programmed, and then I think young people, it kind of runs the gamut.
	So, you know, whoopee!
	So, some young people are waking up.
	The bottom line is that we need to keep at it, okay?
	We need to keep hammering this stuff home so that they wake up and they start thinking critically about their masters and their preconceived ideas about life and so on and so forth.
	Well, if we're making inroads with their consciousness, that can't be a bad thing, right?
	I just said, I mean, I think I said, we'll be right.
	Okay.
	That's my derogatory sort of compliment.
	So yes.
	And, you know, I, I get that I'm not falling over.
	Well, I guess, I guess what I was trying to underscore was, you know, the point that you're making about consciousness that really, you know, like you say, we can, we, this could be kind of reversed, you know, not actually, but it could be overturned in, in a heartbeat.
	If we had a critical mass of, like you say, people who are actually thinkers, right?
	People who maybe stumble upon this video, like what we're trying to do ultimately is to elevate the frequency and the consciousness of humanity.
	I mean, that's really, I think, our collective mission, if you really want to get down to it.
	And, you know, so yeah, I mean, I think it's a good thing that some of these, you know, some of these groups are finally, we're finally starting to break some ground there, right?
	Which I think is really a positive thing.
	But, you know, I agree with you.
	I just wanted to kind of underscore that point, so continue.
	Okay, no worries, but just let's, okay, let's take that understanding back to the Trump, so-called Trump video, all right?
	Sure, a lot of people think that Bill was duped, and he's the fall guy, and he's not to be, you know, trusted anymore, because again, he got a piece of intel, and he couldn't see through it, and he was tricked, okay?
	That's what they think, but in reality, The White Hats brought him on board for an operation that was a market research operation to see if what we're talking about is actually true, to see if they're being received out there, if the tide is turning in their direction.
	So that is indeed what they, I believe, are trying to do.
	Now, it could mean that tomorrow Trump will come out and actually do such a speech.
	It also opens that door.
	You know, it's you got to see things on many levels and why certain things happen.
	However, I do want to say that never forget this.
	The dark side aliens and their Illuminati minions want to steal the earth from under our feet.
	Basically, they want to take complete control of the resources and the land.
	And especially they need to take down, first and foremost, the entire United States.
	So if you give up your land and you give up your resources when they come knocking, whether that knock involves poisoning it, you know, if you just turn and run away, you've abdicated your, you know, you've actually let them have it.
	That's not the answer.
	And On the good side is that we have this very incredible group of patriots that involve the military, and Trump, and John Jr., and this whole massive group called the White Hats, who is actually worldwide, and who I've dealt with for many, many years, even before the queue drops.
	And therefore, I know that they are not going to stop.
	Until they, you know, until everything's gone.
	In other words, they will not give up.
	So, the only thing that I disagree with is there necessarily some of their tactics, because I think that they may be in more hot water than they realize in these instances.
	When they're allowing the dark side free reign to take, you know, to attack Americans, All Trump says is he'd bring in FEMA in an hour.
	What about the perpetrators?
	You know, he doesn't talk about that.
	Why?
	Because he doesn't want to bandy about and cross that political line of threatening to their faces the Illuminati, because that would also have blowback.
	You know, he has wife and family and so on.
	He wants to protect and stay alive as well.
	So, you know, it's very, it's complex for sure.
	But don't be deceived.
	Klaus Schwab has told you there's going to be a Black Swan event.
	You can be freaking guaranteed there will be such an event.
	And Juan O'Salvin has told you there's going to be a Cuban Missile Crisis type event, which is kind of like saying Black Swan event.
	And so, you're getting it from both sides.
	Who's gonna get, you know, who's gonna be decimated by it?
	We are.
	You know, some of our members are definitely going to be killed, maimed, God knows what.
	It's just the usual, you know.
	Sequence of events.
	So I'm not so impressed by being warned about that because it's kind of like a no-brainer.
	But at the same time, that's, you know, the white hats.
	It's how much can they reveal without revealing their real intent and how they're going to respond, by the way.
	Whether they're going to allow it to happen or partially allow it to happen.
	You can appreciate that, right?
	And then come forward.
	No matter how we slice it or dice it, at some point the White Hats have to come forward as for who they are.
	Otherwise they lose completely, okay?
	They lose all of humanity for sure and they lose the game.
	So that's the positive, what I would call the positive side.
	That's the side that tells you that their days as being completely secret as they have been are now numbered.
	And they may be much fewer than, you know, generally thought of, um, you know, and this leads up to the 2024 election and the whole nine yards.
	But I am concerned when I see things like Ohio to realize that there could be, they could have prevented this in many ways and that the American people are suffering.
	And I think we've suffered enough, you know, so as far as I'm concerned, we draw the line in the sand and let's get, you know, let's go straight on, you know, let's White House down the White House, you know, that the White House as a metaphor.
	We know a fake.
	regime is occupying it, get them the hell out.
	Now.
	That's, you know, but I'm, but, but you see the ramifications of that.
	If you act at a certain time and the, the Illuminati can come back at you with all the weapons that you have.
	And so they know damn well, they've got scalar weapons.
	They've got particle beam weapons.
	They've got, you name it, Tesla tech, everything that Tesla was involved with the Illuminati have and so does the White House.
	It's very difficult to fight against an enemy who has everything.
	You have no advantage in terms of the So do you think both sides, Carrie, have kind of sort of equal, excuse me, weaponry capacity and capability to carry out attacks?
	I mean, because I've heard a lot of folks out there say, oh, you know, the cabals to a large part been sort of defanged of a lot of their capabilities.
	I think you're kind of skeptical of that, right?
	Actually, I disagree completely.
	I'm not just skeptical.
	I disagree completely.
	I think that, and I hear this constantly, I think that our side, and those people that profess to be on our side, are constantly underestimating the Illuminati and what they're capable of.
	And how that could be or why that would be, I have no idea other than, you know, they're there.
	Well, there are a lot of pundits out there, you know, people who say, you know, I kind of similar to what you were talking about before that, you know, they put this message out there.
	And I'm certainly not going to mention any names either.
	But, you know, that will say that, you know, the white hats are in complete control.
	You know, the the the enemy has basically been defanged.
	They don't have the capabilities.
	Let me tell you, I mean, this is why I talked about Tesla.
	You understand that Trump's uncle came in to work for the Illuminati to help decipher and expose the work of Tesla to them.
	They then killed Tesla and took all the files, okay, with the help of Trump's uncle.
	I also have said this is... Oh, so he wasn't an actual ally of Tesla.
	See, that was my understanding, was that Tesla had sort of called Trump in to sort of work with him to try to keep the technology... But that's how it works.
	We're talking a person working both sides, okay?
	So what I believe part of the the deal with letting Trump be president is not only the fact that he was a wolf hiding in sheep's clothing or just a wolf looking like another wolf.
	In other words, he grew up in that milieu so he could hide easily and they wouldn't know his true revolutionary thoughts and behavior, they would believe he is one of them.
	So he could be infiltrating them for years and years and years is which exactly what he did.
	Okay.
	So the fact of the matter is, is that he could maneuver within them to get himself with the help of the white hats in a certain position.
	Do you think he had to compromise himself in order to do that?
	I think he's what you call a mercurial by nature.
	He's a Gemini.
	He, you know, he has to play A dishonorable guy or has had to in the past.
	I don't think he has to now.
	I think he pretty much, you know, is who he is.
	But I also think that when necessary, he's also playing the politician constantly.
	And that drives me crazy, but I know it's part of the job.
	He's a master.
	He's absolutely a master and he's very, very brilliant at it.
	So the thing is that they have Tesla Tech.
	If you research Tom Bearden and Tesla Tech, you will understand, like I was trying to say in the beginning of the interview, I also talked about this earlier today on Dark Outpost, that Tesla had put his technology that eventually became the Tesla Wardcliff Tower, however you say that,
	You know the technology I'm talking, which is scalar weapon, which is directing weaponry, you know, and being able to take down a building like 9-11, etc.
	He put it on the back of a truck, a pickup truck.
	He drove it a few miles from the target he had selected and he set it on and he turned it on and it worked.
	It decimated whatever target.
	He then moved on to bigger and better things, and eventually he came to believe, whether it's true or not, and I don't think it's necessarily true, but who knows.
	Then I heard that the dark aliens intervened when he was doing his experiment.
	aimed at a part of Russia or even somewhere else and instead of and they they actually redirected the weapon and made it more destructive than it was supposed to be and so that he in a sense was culpable on the destruction of Tenguska.
	You know Tenguska where they said it was a meteor, right?
	Yeah, right.
	Well, if you read about Tesla, you'll find out that he believed he caused Tenguska, that his weaponry caused it.
	Now, Go back to Tesla's life.
	Go back to taking over his work.
	Go back to the uncle of Trump.
	Go back to Edison being selected because he could charge.
	He could put a meter on this technology and charge people so that they could control it.
	It's what they're all about.
	Understand the way they think.
	In fact, they would go so far.
	This is my view.
	Of pretending to be beaten when in fact they're not beaten at all.
	Because they know how freaking dumb a lot of people are out there and how it's kind of like, again, hopium is a really good word for it.
	They're so desperate for good news because we've had nothing but bad news a lot on our planet that it's understandable that people would just really want to believe that in a very short time that, you know, the White Hats have taken control and they're, you know, whatever.
	It may be more of an even fight than we could ever have realized, okay?
	But having them in complete control, all you have to do is walk outside every day and see their destruction at work.
	And see that their machinations are still working.
	And their machines are still working.
	Yeah, Promises of Promises, Nisara, Jasara, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Most of the people on this planet are living like slaves.
	With very little, many are dying of starvation as we speak.
	Many are still being trafficked, okay?
	Because you can't kill them all and you can't catch them all.
	And a lot of them have gone way underground and they can go deeper and deeper and deeper.
	And they can go off-planet too, if they want.
	You know, Elysium, that's a movie, right?
	It's a whole control operation that operates from off-planet.
	You gotta understand this is a big game.
	It's big, okay?
	It's not just centered on Earth, all right?
	We have interference from many races, as well as many forms of AI.
	So, I don't think you should let your guard down.
	You know, once in a while you want to, you know, think that good things are happening.
	Great!
	You know, Juan seems pretty positive right now.
	But he's also talked about the fact that Trump had to make a deal over the vaccine or he would never have been able to run for office.
	End of story.
	He says that in that video I just showed you, which one it was.
	Well, it's gonna be real interesting to see how they square that with the people.
	You know, when this comes out, I mean, how do you explain that?
	I mean, that's really been one of my biggest questions right from the very beginning, is how do you explain this?
	Well, look at it like this.
	Say you're the White Hats, and say you've got your candidate, and he's brilliant, and you've been working with him for, let's say, 10 years.
	Along with JFK Jr., don't forget, because those guys are a team.
	say he's perfect he's come up he's you know he's become you know he was a television star he was all these things so he has a very high profile of recognition around the whole earth right right as on various levels he's also got friends in high places on dark side and light side which is is absolutely something you have to have to move ahead so
	Say that the one cog in the, in the sort of plan that you can't get beyond is this rollout of this vaccine that the Illuminati have as their big, you know, design plan for humanity.
	And they're going to do it no matter what.
	They don't care who runs for office.
	Usually they own both candidates.
	They think they own Trump at that point.
	You got to go back in time, understand the deal that had to be made.
	What, do you want the White Hats to have not had a candidate in the race?
	Is that what you would have preferred, just for time to go on and for presidents to be... Our elections have been stolen, even going back to John F. Kennedy.
	I mean, once you know this stuff, you understand that the field they entered was totally a rigged game.
	They had no shot.
	So in order for Trump to get into the arena, But in order for Trump to get into the arena, you're saying that he had to make this deal.
	He had to push the vaccine.
	He had to play their game for probably a good, you know, 10 years, you know, behind the scenes.
	He had to be working on the other side and selling himself in that way, in many ways.
	But at the same time, he was planning and plotting along with the rest of the White Hats, all military guys, right?
	Including the son of the person they murdered, where they're all completely dedicated to that theme, which is, you know, to basically pay back for the death of John F. Kennedy.
	Okay, regardless of whether you believe he actually died or not, that doesn't matter.
	The point is, he had to go in hiding if he stayed alive, if he was a, you know, if the double was killed.
	It ruined his life.
	It ruined his administration.
	All his plans for humanity that were actually good ones have now become the mantle behind which all of the military of the White Hats fight.
	So this was a long game that they played.
	And we are actually moving, you know, they've been doing this for 10-15 years.
	You know, we became super aware of them.
	I became aware of them before most anyone.
	Because, again, the evidence is on my website.
	The interviews with Paladin, etc, etc.
	Paladin is a white hat.
	Oh yeah.
	So, you know, these are military people who have been playing this, keeping alive, keeping secret, a secret society that went under notice.
	And Trump had to be the guy who was like the Joker in the pack.
	And he had certain key elements about his past And I didn't get to say this yet, but I've said it before that had to do with the Illuminati have a weird sense of payback and honor.
	Okay.
	Honor among thieves, you could call it.
	So I believe that they owed the uncle of Trump.
	Okay.
	They owed him.
	And therefore when Trump called in that card, it was to let him run.
	Their deal was that he had to back the Vax and not just sort of.
	And so what he did as the showman he is, is back it way over the top.
	Even though if you knew his history, you would know that his child was injured by a Vax, that he was against the Vax, that he even told Robert Kennedy he was against the Vax.
	Oh yeah, he talked about it during the debates I remember.
	And Robert Kennedy thought he changed his mind suddenly because Pfizer gave him some money.
	Do you think money can affect people who have dedicated their life, 15 years or more of their life, to hiding in plain sight, to dealing with the dark side, to pretending to be on board with them while they're stealthily planning to take back the country?
	You gotta, you know, you've got to put it all in context.
	I agree with you there completely.
	I just wonder at what stage of the game, because I mean, one way or another, we can't deny, like you say, I mean, you know, you'll be the first one to point out the stark consequences of what we're dealing with here.
	I mean, people are dying, and not in small numbers, and not from only one attack vector.
	They're dying from multiple attack vectors, and it seems as time goes by, this is only Increasing.
	And so my question is, you know, if Trump had to nuance his way in and, you know, everything that you've just broken down, I'm in complete agreement with you.
	I think it's very naive to think that this guy just came from out of nowhere, you know, pure as the driven snow, as they say, you know, and just was able to somehow secure that position.
	I just don't believe it.
	Even with the military backing, I'm with you there.
	What I wonder about is, you know, how do they square this with the people?
	You know, because people who have an understanding of it, you know, we can have this conversation, you and I, based upon, I mean, you obviously many, many years of experience and research and whistleblowers and, you know, just a general understanding and an elevated consciousness, and I'd like to think that I, you know, I've been doing my homework for a while now, but, you know, the rest of the population, you know, people who have lost family members, people of, you know, who have taken the vax on Trump's word, you know, I mean, I don't, personally, I don't think there are that many people out there who are
	Trump supporters who are taking the vaccine because Trump said to, I think probably more often than not it's the opposite of that, but still in all... No, but I have to say... It's a pretty big liability.
	Yes, it absolutely is, and I've talked about this, and I've warned the White Hats about it countless times, okay?
	You know, you would be amazed, probably even anyone would be amazed if you saw the amount of He's demonstrated his proximity to Trump multiple times.
	to 107.
	So, and anything going as far as I'm concerned to 107 can go to Trump in a heartbeat.
	So that's a through line if you want to call it. - He's demonstrated his proximity to Trump multiple times.
	I mean, I think it's pretty clear. - Yeah, it's extremely clear.
	So regardless of who you think he is.
	But anyway, so what I'm saying here though is that they, okay, they have an agenda, they have a way that they're going to come forward, you know, John F. Kennedy Jr.
	has to come forward in a certain way.
	You know, the whole thing, I'm sure they've charted this out time and time again, They also have to be flexible and change their tactics along with the waves of change that come by virtue of the dark side or just changes within the people.
	Because the people are, you know, between the dark side and the light side, the people are a huge factor.
	In other words, those two sides wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for us.
	Okay, we are The fulcrum upon which their actions rest in a certain way.
	We are the energy by which they operate, okay?
	So, don't underestimate any of those three groups, so to speak.
	And we're the big group, okay?
	We're the gigantic group.
	So, and that means consciousness, it means frequency, whatever you want to call it.
	It means energy.
	We are the energy and energy is king, okay, on this planet.
	Absolutely king.
	So if you've got the big, you know, it's being bigger, better, stronger, that whole scenario.
	So if you've got the bigger energy, In the form of a weapon, whatever it is, right?
	Or in the form of love, then you're gonna beat the other side, and that's why we will win.
	Because we do have, in the form of love, the love vibration, humanity, what we were created to be and what we are, even the people among us who appear to be sleeping, who could wake up in a heartbeat if someone just says the right thing to them, or they see something in front of them that wakes them up.
	Any day of any week, this could happen.
	And it could even happen in mass, like in a number of seconds because of some incident, which I personally don't think the White Hats are taking advantage enough of, which is, you know, is actually telling them the truth and seeing how that works, you know, for a change instead is actually telling them the truth and seeing how that works, you know, for Both sides lie.
	They lie.
	And they lie constantly.
	They do.
	Have you seen a change, Carrie?
	Because I've started to notice a change in the mainstream media.
	It's a subtle one, but the fact that they're talking about, well, just for example, the, I forget what the guy's name was, the former executive at J.P. Morgan and his ties to Epstein.
	Uh, you know, and they're talking about Snow White and things like that on mainstream media and even CNN.
	Um, have you noticed that?
	And what's your, you know, cause this is very much aligned with what you're talking about here that, you know, this is, I mean, I think once people, a lot of folks out there, like you said, they could wake up in an instant if the information I, well, first of all, if, if an, if an event, It doesn't have to be, no, but an event or let's just say information coming from a trusted source.
	It doesn't have to be a negative event.
	This is my issue.
	It could be a positive.
	It doesn't have to be.
	No, but an event or let's just say information coming from a trusted source.
	Okay, but when you say a Cuban Missile Crisis or when Klaus Schwab says a black swan event, those are negative events that they are going to use.
	The White Hats firmly believe if they do, if they allow a negative event by the dark side that people are going to go, oh, the dark side is bad.
	Wow.
	I mean, you know, like and turn against them.
	I, you know, I don't see it.
	I mean, frankly, I don't know.
	I mean, I, I, I don't know.
	I agree with you.
	I think that it's, I think that that's a gradual process of, you know, discrediting.
	I think what's happening is that they're really, they're flipping the mainstream media from the inside.
	I, I happen to believe, cause I just don't see, I can't imagine any scenario.
	It let's just, let's just play devil's advocate for a moment here.
	The dark hats were still in complete control of the mainstream media.
	Would they be allowing these types of stories to even see the time of day?
	You know, would they ever be talking about this?
	They would have to be in a totalitarian, you know, situation already.
	Their job would already be done.
	I mean, the fact that, yes, there are leaks that they got Tesla to join their side, you know, the Trump side.
	The fact that they got McCarthy, You know, the Speaker of the House to come on their side.
	Now, in many cases, they're probably blackmailing these people, but with good evidence, you know?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think they're coercing them from behind the scenes.
	Absolutely.
	I think McCarthy for sure.
	And I think with the mainstream media as well.
	I mean, we've heard about the guy who's a Trump supporter who took over, what is it, Discovery Plus, which owns CNN.
	And now, very shortly thereafter, they start, you know, not all at once, it's not like they're taking the spigot and going full throttle with it, but Stories that we can all agree that only a very short time ago would have never seen the light of day on any mainstream media network.
	No matter how big they were, no matter how glaring the evidence was, they would find a way to bury it.
	And now this stuff is Being talked about on mainstream media.
	So to me, I think that's evidence that maybe the White House or that could be in in line with their slow roll approach is to get to turn the mainstream media because they maybe they're realizing that in order to wake people up.
	They're not I mean you and I can talk about these things from the mountaintops all day long, but I think we could also agree that it's in a lot of ways.
	It's kind of an echo chamber because we're talking to the folks who are, you know already awake.
	But in terms of waking people up, perhaps they've realized that the mainstream media is a necessity.
	That, you know, in order for people to believe certain information, it has to come from certain sources, at least in the interim period, you know, to getting people to realize that, holy shit, you know, the world's not what we thought it was.
	And then we could get to higher levels of consciousness from there.
	I mean, to me, that's a really distinct possibility.
	I don't know what your thoughts are.
	Well, I think that that's part of it.
	I think, you know, sort of infiltrating, again, the dark side, the dark side media, that's all part of the game that they need to do.
	I think it will have a limited effectiveness.
	I think eventually they have to come out as the heroes that they are in order to inspire a following.
	So this is the thing that I notice.
	And the one thing that we have going in our favor is that humanity as a whole have a certain nature, I believe, that is instilled, you could say, by the Creator.
	One of the things is that, contrary to what you've been told, torture works in the sense because humans have to tell the truth.
	At some point, if you push them far enough, they will tell the truth.
	And it's only the psychopaths that don't tell the truth, no matter what you do to them.
	So it's important to realize that at heart, it's our hearts You know, and our minds, but our hearts first and foremost, that makes us humanity and makes us Christ consciousness.
	As Christ consciousness, we have a proclivity to do good, to be good, and to tell the truth.
	That is the sort of animal you're dealing with, if you want to call us an animal.
	Even though we're not.
	I agree, yeah.
	So, that's our nature, okay?
	Contrary to what you've been taught since you were, you know, if you went to religious school and all that nonsense.
	So, instead of being sinners, that's bible bullshit, we were never sinners.
	That's insane, okay?
	We are Christ consciousness.
	You don't start being Christ consciousness and then Fall from grace, like Satan supposedly, and then return to Christ Consciousness.
	No.
	You are Christ Consciousness.
	Actually, a little child, as they're born, you can see that.
	The light of the Creator in their eyes.
	Totally agree.
	Okay?
	So, what we are working with is in our favor.
	The game, the original game, is in our favor.
	It's only the challenges having come to this planet to be in 3D where we These things that are what we call, you know, satanic, are materialistically satanic.
	They are challenges to our Christ consciousness.
	So once you realize that, in a sense, when people say the White Hats have won, they've won only because of our true nature is Christ consciousness.
	They didn't win that.
	We were already that way.
	Okay?
	So, so are they.
	And what I've noticed, it's very interesting, That when I talk to people about John Jr.
	and Trump and these various other people, the hidden ones, okay, behind the scenes, the ones that are in masks and disguise, one thing that I notice is that the people who'd like to put them down have no heart.
	They can't read the heart, and they don't understand a person with a heart.
	So they are aligning themselves in many ways before they ever enter the game with the dark side.
	Because if you understand the heart, then you can read Trump, and you can read John Jr., and you can read these various people, and like myself, and I get this all the time, you can tell that we have a heart, okay?
	It's what drives us, which is, again, Christ consciousness.
	The heart is Christ consciousness.
	So, When you understand that is our motivating factor.
	When all said and done, you can think big thoughts about everything under the sun, but if you don't have a heart, You're nowhere.
	And I think most humans know that.
	And this is where, you know, having home and family and all that kind of thing starts to come forward.
	Because if you have a heart, your heart is, you know, you're in love with your family.
	You're in love with your life because you're in love with your family.
	You know, it spirals.
	So, And then it goes the opposite direction.
	But if you don't know that these people have a heart, you can never understand that they could rebel against their masters or rebel against their family lineage at a very young age, you know, and stay with it their whole life and be a rebel.
	There are heroes.
	That's what we call a hero.
	A hero is somebody who goes up against great adversity and is true to their heart.
	So that's what reveals to me the people who are jaded, the people who are, you know, skeptical of Trump, and they think, oh, humans can never change, and they're always the same, and if their father was an Illuminati, they're an Illuminati, and all this nonsense.
	You know, and the reason I know that so well is why do you think I talk to whistleblowers?
	A whistleblower used to work on the dark side sometimes most of their life and makes a change.
	Their heart changes and they decide that humanity has a right to know and they risk their life And often the lives of their loved ones to come back to humanity and tell them the truth about the dark side and they do a great service to us.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I don't think we could speak highly enough for the service that they do.
	I mean, that's the reason that we're sitting here really having this conversation and you know, one of the things that crossed my mind and that was really beautifully said is that, you know, our heart is really what drives our discernment.
	And, you know, I think that's ultimately why we're still, you know, the people out there that are going to listen to this tonight, why we're still here, you know, and why we're still fighting and why we'll continue to fight on, you know, however long it takes.
	I mean, that's basically our nature is that Christ consciousness and, you know, that never yielding to that evil.
	And I think that's, you know, is absolutely beautiful the way you put that.
	I know we've been on for a while.
	I did want to touch a little bit on Russia and Ukraine, if you have the time to do that, because That's one of the other major stories going on right now, is this sort of, at least on the surface, this march toward World War III, and of course it's tied into everything else we've been talking about tonight, but Vladimir Putin, I think it was yesterday, gave us his
	Big speech to the country is addressed to the nation and it appears that we're starting to see or at least we're going to see very shortly this full-scale ground invasion that I think a lot of us knew was inevitable.
	It's beginning to commence and we also have Russia.
	They're pulling out of their nuclear testing treaties.
	They're announcing, you know, based on the actions of the West, they're announcing military drills, nuclear drills with China.
	And so, you know, it appears that we're headed off a cliff.
	I mean, you know, optics-wise, right?
	Now, that's the surface level.
	Now, beneath the surface level, I've talked about this before, my belief, and of course, I'm not the only one.
	Many others out there believe that Putin and even President Xi, depending on who you talk to, Uh, working behind the scenes to avoid this, um, conflagration and this massive war, whether it's a nuclear war or otherwise.
	Now, the last time that we talked about Russia, you'll remember we had Gene on the show, and one of the things we talked about was Bakhmut.
	And, of course, you broke down Ukraine, a lot of strategic and important sites in Ukraine, the mountain and so on and so forth.
	We had a really big discussion about it, but Bakhmut, from what I understand, is a central location That's strategically important to the Cabal.
	They have their underground tunnel system, and he called it like the Grand Central Station of the underground tunnels in that part of the world.
	And then, you know, we've kind of come to discover that all roads pretty much lead to Ukraine, which was ancient Khazaria.
	So, you know, and like I say, you've discussed the non-terrestrial elements of this underground war that are beginning to spill onto the surface.
	So I'm curious with this big offensive that really is looking to gear up, we're talking like 7,000 tanks, Russian tanks just rolling into Ukraine.
	I mean, what do you make of all this?
	What do you see happening?
	And, you know, clearly this is a major geopolitical event that's going to have a cascading effect of consequences across the world.
	And I'm curious to sort of get your take on the landscape and That theater of the war, if you will.
	Okay, well, I'm gonna say something that might surprise you.
	But I think a lot of what Putin is doing is a dog and pony show.
	I think it's for the optics, as Derek Johnson would say.
	I think that, well, my true thought on this is that Putin could have taken over Ukraine with some scalar weapons in less than a week.
	That this long-drawn-out, old-fashioned war with tanks?
	Really?
	Are we back in, you know, the times of... Like World War II, right?
	The joke!
	We're fighting Nazis with the same tools we did in World War II.
	I don't believe it.
	Okay.
	I think it's absolute madness, but I do think it's playing a role.
	I think, you know, Putin is fully in with the White Hats.
	I think that he is, he and possibly Xi, I'm sort of, I fluctuate with my point of view with Xi.
	I think he's, it's, you know, his heritage is a complicated one, but nonetheless, Putin is on board with the White Hats, and with Trump especially, and he knows damn well that Trump is in office.
	And there was actually, this is one thing that somebody brought my attention to, was that Phil, and I know people like don't even want to hear his name some people, but nonetheless, Phil actually very many months ago talked about a phone call that took place, and some people will think well it's a lie and so on, but it was so in keeping with the personality of Putin that I know of.
	And by the way, he's not the original Putin, but that's be that as it may.
	Yeah, I've heard that as well.
	Yeah, this, but this Putin still is, is doing this job.
	And he's fully engaged in the job.
	And the job is to, to take, you know, down Ukraine, and with good reason for the heritage of Russia, you know, he has his own
	um you know uh self-interest you might say or the interests of the country in in mind there but also you know obviously they've been experimenting with bioweapons right on his doorstep on the people that are basically russians genetically speaking uh a great deal of them the um you know you call them kazarians it is a mixture i think they're
	Within Ukraine, but nonetheless, let me get to the point.
	So the point is that a lot of what he's doing is kind of helping to bring this thing to a crescendo.
	Okay.
	And baiting.
	NATO.
	NATO is basically the New World Order.
	They are not American.
	The Americans that back NATO are New World Order sycophants.
	Communists.
	They're not true Americans.
	And a lot of them are Democrats, I know that.
	But the fact of the matter is they've been duped, okay?
	And they're completely misled.
	So NATO is a very dark side organization.
	And, wow.
	Sorry about that, Carrie.
	I just realized that it hadn't been recording.
	I hope yours had been.
	Oh, I think mine has.
	I just, I can edit this out, but I apologize to jump in here.
	I just realized that because I thought I had hit that button and then apparently.
	I'm not sure.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll have to deal with that later, but I can tell you that Facebook is as long as they don't kick us out.
	So the thing is that Putin is playing a game.
	He has to make this stretch out to keep, to garner NATO so that NATO is on board with that whole scenario over and there, while the United States frees itself from any other military encroachments from the dark side, whether it be the CCP or, you know, Iran or whatever it is.
	Okay, so it's a complex game.
	It's like you have to look at the whole Earth.
	You can't just look at one country and look at what's happening over there.
	Again.
	I think Putin is drawing this out.
	They have the weaponry again.
	He has the weaponry.
	They all have the weaponry to make these things, you know, Mark Richards told me that battles between aliens take like five minutes.
	Because their weapons are so sophisticated.
	They can take down a city and not touch the people if they want.
	They can target individuals and leave the rest standing.
	There are so many, you know, whistleblowers have shared these kinds of things with me.
	So the capability right now of our weapons, because a lot of them are also reverse-engineered alien weapons, They're not what they're pretending to be.
	These old-fashioned weapons, these old-fashioned methods of war, of destroying, you know, going in with a tank and shooting it at a building and crash it down, and then people shooting each other with guns, you know, it's all ridiculous.
	It's just technology.
	Why would you do that?
	Yeah, it's like the concept that they're sending up our fighter jets up there.
	They're just shooting down UFOs.
	I mean, you know, if you've even begun to scratch the surface, you know that that couldn't be true, right?
	No, of course not.
	And so this is the thing that you have to realize.
	And knowing what I know, it makes it very annoying to watch news and broadcasts and stuff because I see through them so completely.
	Putin is playing a role.
	Even after this broadcast where I tell everyone what's really happening and the fact that these weapons are so antiquated is ridiculous.
	And yes, they're giving antiquated, you know, weapons by way of Biden, you know, so that it can look like Biden's doing something to Zelensky, you know, this Nazi pansy or whatever you want to call him.
	You know, I mean, it's a show.
	It's a show because they're garnering eyeballs and they're garnering the energy of the people who believe them, right?
	And they're using that energy to then move forward and do the things they want to do.
	But it's not how it appears at all.
	And the real battles do take place with the real weapons and those you don't hear about and don't see.
	Absolutely.
	Well, Kerry, this has been amazing.
	I know we've been on now for a couple of hours.
	I hope that we're good to go with the recording and we can pull it off of Facebook.
	I'm fairly confident we can do that.
	But this has been an incredible conversation.
	So I just wanted to thank you for your time.
	I mean, we could just go on and on, honestly.
	I feel like I could talk to you for hours and hours.
	I mean, I had questions about the World Health Organization, the Brunson case, I mean, on and on.
	But I know at a certain point, we got to Um, you know, consider, uh, the length of the video.
	So I just wanted to thank you once again.
	Uh, certainly we'll, uh, we'll do it again, uh, for number 10.
	It's hard to believe it's been nine conversations already with Carrie Cassidy.
	I have to pinch myself sometimes.
	It's, uh, it's quite an honor.
	So I just wanted to thank you and, you know, any, uh, final thoughts for the audience?
	Oh, well, I just want to give you some credit because you're obviously extremely knowledgeable and you've gained, I guess, from all the people you're interviewing, you're gaining all the time in your knowledge base.
	So that makes you a fun interview to do because you ask simulating questions, right?
	So, so thank you for that.
	And, you know, it's fun and interesting and I hope people enjoy it and we'll see what happens moving forward.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Well, once again, your website, I'm not even going to attempt it because I know I'm going to mess it up.
	Give it to folks.
	Give us your websites where they can find more information about you.
	I mean, I'm sure most of my audience is probably already following you, but for those people out there who aren't, tell them where to find more Kerry Cassidy.
	Okay, so ProjectCamelotPortal.com, and I'll put them on the screen.
	ProjectCamelot.org and ProjectCamelot.tv, they all go to the same place, and you can find my links to social media at the top of the page there, once you get to the website.
	So, thanks again for the great conversation.
	Absolutely.
	All right, everyone.
	Well, thank you for listening, and I'll be back soon.

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