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Jan. 19, 2023 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY MEL CARMINE - CAMELOT WHISTLEBLOWERS

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	Thank you.
	Well, welcome everybody.
	We got Keri Cassidy in the house.
	I've been following Keri Cassidy for several decades.
	I gotta tell you, she is a legend.
	She needs really no introduction.
	She's amazing.
	She's the who's who of the who's who of the who's who when it comes to ufology.
	I followed her interviewing people like Robert Dean, Sergeant Clifford Stone, Dan Burish, the late George Green.
	Hands down, these are the biggest UFO people ever.
	These are people on the way on the inside, okay?
	And her stuff was very educational, very entertaining, and I just couldn't get enough.
	When I discovered her, a friend of mine said, from North Carolina, said, hey, you gotta listen to Keri Cassidy.
	I said, okay, and I was glued.
	I was like, I couldn't get enough.
	It's like, I was, I went into like sensory overload, and I started watching all of her videos.
	And because I'm a walking, talking billboard, when I become excited about stuff, I spread it out there like chickenpox, you know?
	And incredible, incredible stuff.
	I mean, and some of that stuff still lives today on the internet.
	Now, we're going to try to keep it clean for the audience's sake, but I will tell you this.
	Once we take it off the tracks, okay?
	In other words, we're going to try to do maybe 10-15 minutes of clean stuff so that we could have a teaser video for YouTube, and then we're going to tell everybody to go to Rumble.
	When I tell her to take it off the tracks, I want her not to even try to hold back.
	I want her to unleash everything she's got.
	Kerry, welcome to the Mel Carmine Show.
	Let's start with the brothers you're not allowed to mention their last name because YouTube owns their last name now.
	And guess what?
	Some people have gotten their channels taken down because they mentioned that last name that starts with a B and ends with an N. I'm talking about the Supreme Court case that we may be able to appeal five times, correct?
	And I think it's kicking the balls to the American people.
	Are we being played?
	Well, I mean, I had no idea YouTube is sort of, well, I guess I'm not supposed to say anything right now because, okay, I'll save that comment for later.
	But anyway, all right, so thank you for telling me that because I was banned on that place two years ago.
	I couldn't tell you what's going on over there.
	But everything that I've ever done is on my website and it's also on odyssey.com and the links are on my website and also the most recent shows I do are on Rumble and Odyssey.
	And then eventually they go into the subscription area of my website.
	So you've got like over a thousand free videos that are always free, they've always been free, and that's for the past 18 years or ever since they got, you know, the particular one got recorded.
	So Bob Dean and everyone you talked about, they're all there, all my interviews.
	In fact, we are trying to find a way to get those interviews, you know, back out to the public so that they can, you know, because there are a lot of people who, there's a new audience out there, I guess you might say, and it would be great if they would see those videos because those guys are amazing.
	So, I'm very happy to have been in the position to interview those people and a lot of them became friends.
	A lot of them have actually, a lot of my top witnesses have passed on now.
	Which is a tragedy.
	And in some cases, they got a little help from the state.
	So, what can I say?
	What do you have for me?
	What would you like me to talk about?
	I recently sent some of your classic videos of Robert Dean to my mom, and my mom immediately fell in love with Robert Dean.
	And she said, I want to meet Robert Dean.
	I said, Mom, you can't.
	He's dead.
	So anyway, I got a challenge to make you laugh today.
	So I'm going to try to see if I can say something that's going to make you laugh.
	I don't know why there's a few people out there saying, could you make Kerry Cassidy laugh?
	I said, you know what?
	I'm going to try.
	So tell us a little bit about some of the stories that Robert Dean told you that live on your website that people are going to get intrigued.
	And listen, I can't find the words to tell you how important it is for you guys to go and watch this stuff.
	It's really off the Richter scale, all right?
	No pun intended.
	So tell us a little bit about some of those interviews and some of the things that these people have told you that are literally off the charts that's going to intrigue your audience and my audience to go and watch here.
	Well, one of the things he said, which is, we come from the stars and we will return to the stars.
	That's one of his famous quotes.
	Another famous quote that he said was that the Anunnaki are here and they're walking the halls of the Pentagon.
	That's another famous quote.
	You know, he said I made him a rock star.
	Which I kind of did.
	He was already on the circuit for many years.
	He actually violated his national security oath in order to come forward because he felt very strongly that the people had a right to know about the alien presence and what was going on in our skies and around the world.
	He was at this place in I think, well, it was Paris or places in France called Shape Headquarters.
	And as a young officer, I guess he was sort of bored one day and his commanding officer threw a document, actually a very thick book, on his desk and said, read this.
	And it actually changed his entire life because it was all about the military encounters with UFOs and even Battles that went on between them and us.
	Not sure which race we're talking about.
	I don't think he ever got specific in that way.
	But so that was his beginning and and and the rest is history as they say, but he is a fabulous.
	He was a fabulous speaker.
	He had a lot of you might say Pleiadian in him.
	He considered me a daughter.
	Yes.
	Which was really sweet and I used to give him all kinds of shit, like you might know, like I sort of have this reputation.
	I said in a video yesterday with SG Anon that I was a pussycat, but I guess I'm more like a tiger.
	I can't really, you know, I can't stop myself once I get some idea in my head.
	I have to sort of pursue it and I'm really I guess relentless when it comes to that, but so I would challenge him and I actually got threatening emails from former from soldiers and people like that who said, how dare you talk to a command sergeant major like that?
	But what they didn't know is that he loved it.
	He loved it when I challenged him.
	We had a lot of fun and those interviews are actually, they should go down in history because he was one of our greats.
	Another great is John Lear.
	Who passed away not long ago and he was a wonderful man as well.
	Absolutely.
	We're talking about these guys who were top of their game, incredibly charming, larger than life.
	They really were like Hollywood stars in the real world.
	And anyone who knew them would probably agree with me.
	So John Lear is also another really fabulous set of interviews that you absolutely don't want to miss.
	He was well, he claimed to be a researcher, but he's the son of Learjet and he he was a pilot and he actually.
	You know, he flew dangerous missions in Vietnam and various places and delivering all kinds of questionable cargo and things like that.
	He was a real daredevil and he had like, you know, stories as long as your arm as far as things that happened to him.
	Really amazing things where he kind of got out by the skin of his teeth, so to speak.
	So that's John Lear and John Lear was um he will always be a very famous we're talking you know both of these men good looking debonair very cool um I was very happy to you know sit down and have a drink with them and uh and and so on so so that that's John Lear and John Lear um one of his famous stories is all about
	uh being with Linda Moulton Howe back in the day and this is a long time ago and they were in I guess I think was Mexico uh New Mexico and not Mexico south of the border but New Mexico and uh that's where there's an you know there's an underground base there and Dulce and all this and they they were driving along a highway and they started seeing one dead cow after another and Linda Moulton Howe of course is is She's still around.
	She's famous as a journalist, investigative journalist, and I've also interviewed her, and he was talking about, you know, the fact that what she had been investigating was showing up right in front of his eyes, you know, so that was one of the stories.
	He also has lots of Area 51 stories, and as a matter of fact, Sean David Morton even, I think, Claims to have introduced John to Area 51.
	I'm not so sure that's true.
	And John was almost arrested there with another, with a group of guys.
	And that's a really fabulous story about how they hid the gun and all this kind of stuff.
	So, so very cool.
	Very, these are the wild west of the days, if you will.
	You know, I only got to talk to him one time.
	I'm talking about John Lear.
	And it was a very short conversation.
	And he told me about the L-1011s that he flew for Delta, I believe.
	And he told me the fact that there is a clacking noise that if that airplane or that aircraft is on a collision course with a mountain or a structure, there's a clacking noise inside that cockpit that no human could withstand.
	Wow.
	So he became part of that pilot organization that was, you know, questioning everything of what happened over there in New York, without getting too specific.
	You guys can sort of connect the dots, okay?
	So, you know, it was very intriguing that I even got to talk to him that one time, and he said something that really stuck out to me.
	He said, Mel, you are basically, he says, in a way, he goes, you are your own god, because you got to be able to reach out and connect spiritually to source.
	And that really stuck out because that's exactly where I'm at today.
	Bill Ryan, he was your partner early on.
	Yes.
	What happened to him?
	Is he still around?
	Well, we had a parting of the ways.
	We were sort of good for about two years and then the third year we were sort of at odds about who to interview.
	We no longer got along.
	He had a new girlfriend and she didn't like me and so she was putting, I found out later, putting these ideas in his head, you know, that, oh, you, you can be the main interviewer.
	You can get rid of her so and so.
	So, and there were some, there was a, an agent, you know.
	of the intelligence agencies.
	I can't say, I'm not going to say who and what one, but he also tried to split us up.
	But the reality was that Bill and I had a real difference in opinion in terms of whistleblowers eventually.
	He became strangely, what you might call, vindictive.
	Like if he found out a whistleblower lied to us, which You know, whistleblowers always told a portion of the truth and a portion of lies, because that is their deal with the government.
	That's how they stay alive in many cases.
	And there was a couple of whistleblowers that kind of pissed him off, and he outed them.
	He tried to out them.
	On our Avalon Forum, which he more or less ran.
	I wasn't really that involved in Avalon.
	So we split our ways and he went on to run the Avalon Forum for many, many years.
	I assume he's still doing it.
	I'm not in touch with him right now.
	We did part loosely as friends.
	Over the years, we've had some contact, not a lot.
	He moved to Ecuador.
	He became sort of a prepper.
	Which was also not my style.
	And so, you know, just changing people starting out one place and changing over the course of a few years.
	And so that that's what happened, but he's still around.
	If you go to the Avalon forum, which is project Avalon dot net.
	You'll, I think you'll probably, you know, he's, he was always very active over there.
	He likes, he liked discussions and he was very, he's a good writer and it was a very intellectual.
	So, you know, he, we did a good job together.
	We were kind of a good tag team in the early days.
	People liked it kind of a sunny and share team, whatever you want to call that.
	But it, you know, it just didn't last that long.
	So I've been doing this now for 18 years.
	That was like the first two and a half years.
	Yeah.
	I can't think of his name.
	You interviewed him.
	He was really super smart.
	He's also passed on, unfortunately.
	He was in your main show.
	An email was sent to me by one of your groupies early on.
	They said, you're not going to believe this, but Kerry Cassidy is going to be on True TV tonight at two o'clock in the morning.
	Yeah, we made a television show that was a follow-up to the Jesse Ventura conspiracy theories because the idea behind that was that it's actually I pitched the television show to a producer that got in contact with us about doing a A show.
	And we became more or less co-producers of that show.
	We brought in all, a lot of our witnesses.
	Bob Dean's in that show.
	Gordon Avell, very notorious whistleblower, very cool guy.
	And dozens of others that are in the show.
	And what happened was, partway through the shooting of it, we were actually down in on location in Palm Springs.
	And my producer got a call.
	Well, actually, the call came to me from Gordon Novell, who had always denied that he was working for the agency.
	And I always teased him and said, yes, you do, you know, all this kind of stuff, because we have this kind of fun relationship.
	And sure enough, he said, yeah, you're right.
	I do.
	And they want to talk to your producer.
	So I put him on the phone with that agency and they basically gave him an ultimatum.
	They said, you know, you let us produce your show or control your show and you will go to series if you don't, you know.
	That's it.
	So our producer was a young guy, kind of rebellious, and basically said no way.
	He got fired.
	Our director got fired.
	Our show got slightly revamped.
	They tried to fire me, but Bill stood with me.
	That was one of the most honorable things he probably ever did.
	And so we basically, you know, pushed back to the Hollywood producers saying, you know, if you try to drop me from the show, they wanted an all male, you know, they're one of this macho, you know, because Jesse Ventura is this big, strong guy.
	So they wanted this male dominated sort of show.
	And so they kept giving my lines to Bill.
	All through the show, it was really bizarre.
	It was like an insane story, a real Hollywood story.
	And so what happened was they finished, they shot, we shot the series, just the one, it was the one pilot episode.
	It was about Mars, and they put it in a can, they put it on the shelf, And they didn't release it for I think it might have even been about a year and then all of a sudden we got a notification uh like that night that they were going to release it uh late at night as you say and we had so many fans out there that they actually saw it listed on like a tv guide or something tv guides that's it
	And so we were prepared, and we actually recorded the copy of it, so you can watch it.
	It's on my website.
	It's actually on the About Us page, if you go to my website.
	But, you know, Bill has a copy, I have a copy, and it's on the internet.
	It's called Shadow Operations, and it's actually a really good show.
	It's too bad that, you know, they Kind of made the ultimatum to my producer and screwed with it.
	But yeah, it's a lot of fun and still totally, you know, this is cutting-edge stuff even today.
	Yes, yes.
	You know, and you talked about an installation in Utah that's even more bigger and badder than Area 51, which is, you know, commercialized in many aspects.
	Gordon Novell, what a brilliant mind.
	I mean, And incredibly funny, too.
	But this guy, he did security for the entire White House, like anti-surveillance stuff.
	I mean, this guy was really, I mean, this guy was wired.
	Yeah, that was for the Nixon White House.
	Right, exactly.
	Yeah, Gordon was a real character.
	He's like a gangster, basically.
	Yes.
	You know, he talked like a gangster.
	I think he lived in Vegas for a while.
	John Leo lived in Vegas.
	I mean, these guys are, you know, they kind of cross that line, like I say.
	But Gordon was a fun guy and we had a sort of a I don't know.
	What do you want to say?
	A camaraderie?
	And I gave him a lot of shit as well.
	He loved it.
	No, we had fun.
	Those were fun interviews, I have to say.
	Yeah, do me a favor.
	Send us that link with the True TV.
	That is one of your favorite shows ever.
	I'm gonna put it down the link below.
	This, guys, is must-watch.
	You gotta fasten all your seatbelts, activate all airbags, because you're gonna need them, okay?
	This is some deep stuff.
	He's down in Vilcabamba.
	I'm going back to Bill Ryan.
	He's down in Vilcabamba still?
	No, he is in Ecuador.
	He's not actually there in Vilcabamba.
	We went down and did a conference there.
	That's where Brian O'Leary, who was an astronaut that was supposed to go to Mars, and he was threatened by the Deep State.
	In fact, he believes that they sent a contract killer, and I know the name of the guy, to kill him.
	He's on our Our series, you know, the pilot for the series.
	So he's there, you'll see it.
	And what happened was that actually he got a fast acting form of cancer, died within a year, all of a sudden.
	But he had tried to get away from them.
	One of the things he did was, as a former astronaut, is he went around the world interviewing free energy scientists.
	And he wrote a book about, he's got actually, I think, more than one book on that subject.
	You can go on Amazon, just use his name, Brian O'Leary, and you should find his books.
	But he was a brilliant guy, and we did several interviews with him.
	And like I said, we did a conference, actually, at his house in Vilcabamba back in the day.
	He eventually, when he was in Shadow Operations with us, he did a segment and after everything got in the can and they thought it was going to be released, it never did for that year, but he got scared or threatened, I don't know what.
	And for what he said in the show.
	So when you see Brian O'Leary there, he is actually saying things that he might even have been killed for.
	He did it, you know, it wasn't really an interview with him.
	He just basically was kind of talking to the camera.
	He was on camera and we were actually in Vegas filming at the Hard Rock Cafe or Hard Rock Hotel.
	But he he was talking about how he was threatened and how they tried to kill him.
	So he basically what happened then is he called me and I don't know why he called me, but he called me and he wanted me to convince the producers to take his segment out.
	And this is before it ever got released and I refused.
	And I, you know, I basically said, you know, that I wouldn't do that because I thought it was really important.
	And I also, but I, he, we did put him, you know, in touch with the producers and he tried to convince them to remove it, but they denied it.
	So they, they kept it in.
	So that segment, I believe is still in there.
	And so that's the backstory.
	We have a lot of backstories with every segment of that show because there was so much craziness with Hollywood.
	That went on.
	So there's a physicist there.
	His name is, I think it's Sean Carroll, if I have the name right.
	But he's a famous physicist.
	He was a young guy then.
	He's pretty much older now.
	Well, it's like 18 years later.
	Not 18, but it's a lot of years later, maybe more like 12.
	And he walked out.
	So we were on the set filming and I asked him some questions.
	And he got pissed off and he ripped off his his mic and he threw it on the ground.
	He said, I didn't sign up for this.
	And he walked off the set and they filmed the whole thing and then they cut it out.
	So you won't see that segment.
	You will see him.
	He's still in the show.
	I think part of it.
	But that's a very tame part with Bill.
	But no, he really got pissed off because I basically showed him up.
	Because he was lying.
	He was just lying through his teeth.
	It was incredible.
	And I wasn't going to stand for it, so.
	Yeah, interesting.
	Let's talk a little bit about Sergeant Clifford Stone.
	Yeah, he's a wonderful man.
	Um, no, I don't think so.
	You know, sometimes I get confused as to who's here and who's not, but I think he's passed on.
	Wonderful.
	Absolutely.
	One of, you know, probably one of the sweetest souls you'll ever meet.
	And he was good friends with Bob Dean.
	I filmed him and Bob Dean together in an interview in Vegas at a conference.
	But I also, there's an excellent interview that I did with Clifford Stone by himself.
	And he is just, you know, the most gentle, lovely guy.
	And he was basically an ET communicator.
	So what he would do is he worked with the military.
	He actually lived in Roswell and he would go on crash retrievals.
	And if there were any beings there, he would more or less try to communicate with them.
	So that was his job.
	And yeah, he had a lot of knowledge.
	In fact, when I'm talking to him, he tries to communicate some of what he has, but He never told the whole truth.
	Actually, that's the same with Bob Dean, by the way.
	A lot of people wanted Bob Dean to come out and, you know, spill the beans and really say everything that they knew.
	But what people didn't realize is that once you're being threatened, your family and your close loved ones are always threatened as well.
	And so Bob Dean had a wife he loved very much and he had a family.
	But let me tell you that both Clifford stone and Bob Dean more or less, I guess you say violated their their oath.
	And both of them had one of their children killed.
	I think it was Clifford Stone's son died in a motorcycle accident, supposedly, and Bob Dean's daughter, I think, supposedly committed suicide, as I recall.
	So it's a very This world that we have been in, the world of secrets, is a very serious world, even though it's a lot of fun.
	You know, like I say, these guys were renegades, they were larger than life, etc.
	And they were, I don't think, you know, I don't think we'll ever have people quite like that out there.
	We were, we hit the scene in a very important time before all this, you know, all this, uh, internet, um, you know, censorship and everything came along.
	And we also got in touch with the right people.
	I think it was all meant to be.
	And so that's why the Camelot library is so important.
	Even to this day, we've got testimony that is just, you know, hits the ball out of the park, like every time.
	Amazing.
	Yeah, and anybody out there nowadays, 90% of those people are just, you know, kind of, it's nice, but it's never got that gritty, you know, sort of quality that these witnesses have where you just, you listen to them and they are telling the truth.
	They really are.
	Absolutely.
	David Adair is another one that's a fascinating story.
	I mean, but Sergeant Clifford Stone, you said that he was able to communicate.
	I want to elaborate for the audience.
	What we mean is he was able to telepathically communicate.
	See, early on, they figured out that some of these crafts were allergic to something called radar.
	So they aimed the radars at some of these things and they brought them down, and when they brought them down, when they crashed them or forced to crash them, somebody would have to go and communicate if there was anybody left alive on these crafts, and it was Sergeant Clifford Stone.
	Is that correct?
	Yes, I mean there were other ones.
	There's a guy named Dan Sherman who was also an ET communicator.
	Fascinating story, wonderful interview.
	I think he's still out there.
	In fact, there was a time when I was trying to reconnect with him and do another interview.
	He wrote a book called, I think it's called Above Black.
	And we were trying to get that made into a movie.
	He's got a fascinating story.
	He was actually he was told by the military and this is in his testimony that he was genetically engineered to be who he became.
	And to work with the military, what he says in the interview, which is quite fascinating is that they thought that there was going to come a time in the future.
	This was the story they told him at least that.
	There was going to be some kind of earth changes and a lot of chaos and that they were going to need communicators to communicate with these races that in some cases we would be at war with.
	So that was his skill set and he started out communicating with an ET on the computer.
	So he was going through the computer to do it and eventually he was doing it telepathically and so on.
	But fascinating guy.
	A very, you know, stand-up military guy.
	Very, you know, forthright and stuff.
	Very cool.
	Yeah, and one of the most fascinating parts of Clifford Stone is even after his son passed, with the help of some people upstairs, he was able to go visit his son.
	Okay, I haven't heard that, but that would be the kind of thing that he would do.
	I mean, you know, that's kind of the kind of thing that a lot of people dabble in that people don't realize that, you know.
	I was just mentioning the Skinwalker Ranch story.
	And there's a lot of, there's a lot, actually several books on Skinwalker Ranch.
	And there's a guy, there's a senator, I think it was a senator, Harry Reid, who was instrumental in trying to get the government and, you know, the agencies, including Bob, what's his name, Bob Absolutely.
	his name is, to this aerospace expert, to go in there and deal with the ETs in Skinwalker Ranch.
	So that's a fascinating story.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I'll tell you, when I came across your stuff, it was sort of like a drug, like heroin, I couldn't get enough, you know?
	It's like, I want more, you know?
	Please inject me, you know?
	It's like every day, every night, I was like consumed.
	I started becoming obsessed and possessed with knowing more because I knew that this stuff was real, you know?
	And, you know, Gordon Novell is one of the most fascinating.
	I got to talk to him.
	I didn't get to talk to Sergeant Clifford Stone.
	I wanted to.
	I didn't get the chance to talk to Robert Dean.
	I wanted to.
	But Gordon Novell was a character.
	What you saw on camera and the way he talks to you on the phone is the same exact person.
	I don't think there was any acting about him.
	What could you tell the audience about Gordon Novel?
	Maybe one or two or three things that really stuck out in your mind that they need to know.
	I want to intrigue every single one of you to go watch this one particular video and then go watch all of her old stuff, which is classics.
	I mean, not that her stuff sucks.
	It doesn't.
	Her new stuff is just as good, but in a different way.
	Yeah, I mean, I would say that, you know, because I've even, Dr. David Adair, that you have mentioned, I interviewed him like less than a year ago, all about AI.
	I mean, this guy is telling us everything that's going on.
	In fact, people do not, this is my point of view, people do not realize the number of secrets and incredible testimony that we have.
	They just, you know, some, I, even people write to me and say, Oh, I didn't know you were even around anymore, you know, because when my YouTube channel, which had 70 million viewers and 312,000 subscribers, when it was taken off YouTube overnight, a lot of people didn't get that I went to Odyssey and that they could come to my website and, you know, all this stuff.
	So they would, they actually still every once in a while, somebody will write to me and say, Oh my God, you're still alive or something.
	But anyway, yeah, Gordon was amazing and there's so many stories about him.
	He really was like a mobster.
	I'm sure he dealt with some mobsters.
	I was with him when a certain Hollywood, I don't know what you want to call him, but a semi-mobster was there in a meeting with him.
	He was trying to build an An ARV, which is an alien reproduction vehicle, and he had the plans and everything and he put together a team of scientists and this whole thing.
	He had a huge book and he shopped it around Hollywood.
	He wanted to make a movie about it as well while he was building the craft.
	And the fact of the matter is the Secret Space Program had already built that craft, but that craft was also drawn and designed by Mark McCandlish, who they killed not long ago, actually about two years ago.
	So there is a, you know, there's like a trail of bodies that back from those days that actually continues to this day.
	And Gordon, one of the things about Gordon, which is very interesting, he kept, okay, he had this weird relationship, an antagonistic love-hate relationship with the agency that he supposedly was working for.
	And so he would go off the reservation, as you call it, and he had this relationship with this guy who was head of the weird desk.
	And he's still around.
	His name is Ron Pandolfi.
	Interesting.
	And so he loved Ron.
	They were like best buddies and all this stuff.
	But then every time, every once in a while Gordon would do something or they would try to rein him back in.
	So Ron would screw him over and lie to him and actually put him, you know, hang him out to dry.
	They even threw him in jail at one point.
	You know, so they were always messing with Gordon and he also had the same kind of relationship with MJ-12.
	They were always messing with him.
	There was something about his personality and because he was so, you know, we had a CIA Um, agent in the room when I was interviewing Gordon, a lot of people don't know that.
	So there's a very famous black and white interview I did with Gordon.
	Yes.
	And I was told that it was shown up and down the halls of the CIA and all the, um, you know, the NOA and, you know, all the agencies because they just loved it because he is such a scream.
	I mean, he's so funny and so.
	He's just a gangster.
	That's why I shot it in black and white.
	And what happened was we were about to release it and Ron Pandolfi said, no, don't do it in black and white.
	That's all wrong.
	And I said, fuck you.
	And I kept it in black and white.
	And I actually got kudos on an artistic level later.
	Everyone loved it because it suited his personality so much.
	So it looks, it's shot like, you know, in the 1940s with all the gangsters and stuff like that.
	So it's cool.
	It's really one of my favorite interviews ever.
	I must have watched it myself about five or six times.
	Guilty as charged.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Let's talk about David Adair when he got recruited to go to White Sands because he, this guy, for you guys who don't know David Adair, we're going back, you know, we're going back a couple of decades, okay?
	And David Adair was able to build a rocket he was like a sort of backyard scientist mad scientist and built a rocket in his backyard that was uber fast faster than anything the Chinese or the Jap or the Japanese or the Russians had anybody and when they recruited him they got wind the army the navy whatever and they recruited him down to white sands and they started to basically he was 17 years old when they came
	And it was Curtis LeMay, I believe, was the general that actually knocked on his door.
	And, you know, David Adair is still around.
	He has incredible stories.
	I mean, even to this day.
	And in fact, he's supposedly doing something even more incredible right now.
	I heard from him about, I don't know, a month or two ago.
	And maybe he'll come forward again.
	I hope so.
	These guys, you know, it's hard to stay in touch with them because they're always coming to the surface and then they disappear, right?
	But David Adair, yeah, he communicated.
	He was brought into an underground base.
	to communicate with an ET craft that they had gotten that was buried now many many floors down in this underground base and they couldn't get it to do anything to turn on to do they couldn't figure it out to save their life and he walked in and he put his hands on it and it turned on And all the colors were changed based on his mood.
	It was reading his consciousness.
	And actually, he stayed in touch with that ET race, I have to tell you, even to this day.
	So he is, he's brilliant.
	He knows he's built his own AI since then.
	He has some, there's some component to his physicality that he is part, um, you know, whatever they made him, uh, because that's why he, he just walked in and he put his hands on it and it turned on.
	I mean, somehow they got wind that he might be the guy.
	I don't know how they learned that back in those days.
	But we're talking, this is many years ago, even when I was, you know, when I first found out it had been, you know, many years since that, you know, because he's, he's older now.
	So, yeah, David Adair is an amazing man, and he completely diagnosed and told us all about COVID, what it was, what's in it.
	How it's taken over your body, how it's turning you into an android.
	I mean, he got the whole thing.
	So it's all on a couple interviews I did with him just in the last 2 years.
	Interesting, interesting.
	Yeah, I remember that whole entire story and he basically, when he turned around, because he realized this thing, this is an engine, it's the size of a long school bus, not a short school bus, and it was supposedly flying some kind of a craft of sort, which the craft probably could have been very, very large.
	And when he realized that this thing is reading his mind and it's making some swirl patterns around his hands based on his mood at that particular time, He said, he turned around and goes, hey, this thing ain't from around here, he says.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, he's a funny guy, yeah.
	And that's when they said, okay, this guy is maybe a little smarter than we thought, you know?
	And so, yeah, amazing stuff.
	Jim Sparks, so did you ever interview Jim Sparks by any chance?
	Another fascinating story.
	Yeah, of course.
	Uh, so, you know, I mean, we interviewed Jim, uh, all about his, you know, ET experiences and all of that.
	He really got involved with the Grays in, um, like maybe not such a good way.
	Uh, in other words, Pat practically, you know, being used as a slave to do everything that they told him to do.
	And, but he, he, he maintained consciousness enough to be able to relay the story.
	So my interview with Jim Sparks is absolutely legendary.
	So.
	You know, I haven't seen that one yet, so I'm looking forward to it.
	I've seen a lot of his work, like him at the podium, a lot of interviews.
	I may have seen maybe one of the old ones.
	Did you interview him more than once?
	I probably interviewed him at least twice.
	Once with someone else, as I recall.
	And I'm not sure, I'm thinking it's this guy, but I can't remember his exact name.
	So, but yeah, he was, you know, he lived in Vegas.
	A lot of these people live in, they retire, you know, they were part of the military, they got involved with the ET thing.
	And what the military would do is get them to retire to Pahrump, Nevada.
	And I guess Vegas as well.
	So the funny thing was that a lot of our witnesses were in that area of the country and also the rest of the Southwest.
	So, you know, that we actually had would drive around because I lived in California and we would drive around with our, our camera and our, my kitten and, you know, we even we went to interview.
	Let's Richard Hoagland in he lived in New Mexico and that's a fabulous interview.
	We did stuff.
	I've did several with Richard, but there's one in particular where we went to visit him in his house and we had to drive through a snowstorm from Vegas to New Mexico and Richard kept saying, you know, no, you're not going to make it don't come.
	It's too difficult blah, blah, blah, but we were so determined and Bill Ryan was a very good driver.
	He was kind of a.
	Indiana Jones type of guy as you can imagine and he grew up in Africa and hiking around the African mountains and so we used to go on vacation during those first two years on safari because it was dirt cheap because he would just go get get a jeep outfit it and we would go and that was really fun.
	Interesting, interesting.
	You know, regarding your ex-partner, is he still very active in the UFO world?
	Is he still doing videos or not as active as you?
	No, not at all.
	I remember that hat.
	I think he slept with that hat on.
	I had a vision of him like never taking that thing off.
	You know, yeah, I mean, he had it on all the time and it was very old and worn out.
	No, he as far as I know, he's not really active in that community so much.
	Although I'm sure that, you know, it's kind of like 1 of those things.
	Once you get labeled as a person that people associate with that.
	You know, I mean, this job was 24-7, right?
	So you could be contacted at 3 in the morning by somebody that's got something to tell you, you know, something life-changing or whatever and having to do with ETs.
	So being in South America, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he still occasionally gets a case, so to speak, coming his way.
	But I'm not in touch with him in that way, so I don't know.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, all of this technology that we have retrieved or sometimes it's a download, you know, I mean, I've become pretty good friends with Dr. Sandra Rose-Michael.
	I'm sure you know who she is, right?
	With the scalar wave technology.
	Are you familiar with that stuff?
	I know about the technology.
	I don't know her that well.
	Okay, well she was on Jason Scherko, who does a lot of stuff on UFO.
	He's the modern guy.
	He's the guy that may be taking over, you know, the Cary Cassidys of the world as you probably go into retirement, maybe in the next 8-10 years.
	But he does a lot of stuff with TLS and so on.
	You know, she's gotten the downloads from people upstairs.
	She remembers her life vividly in Atlantis, etc.
	And by the way, I'm going to invite you publicly here.
	We're opening up in Chula Vista, a scalar wave technology center.
	It's going to be a private membership only.
	We're going to release the address.
	And the name here in the next few weeks, I believe.
	And if you want to come down the first month, it's on the house.
	It's free to the public.
	It's going to be in Chula Vista.
	So you're more than welcome to come down.
	Maybe you might want to do a video there with my partner.
	That would be great.
	And we're also opening up in Space Coast.
	So if you're ever in Florida where they launched that stupid space shuttle that we haven't needed in probably 90 years or 100 years, you're more than welcome to do that one as well.
	We're going to do a month free.
	That one's going to be a 24-hour location.
	Are you familiar with what this stuff is doing?
	Are you talking about like a med bed?
	As far as healing.
	Well, the technology really doesn't heal you.
	The technology provides the atmosphere so that your cells become their own doctors and the cells start to produce healthy cells and that starts to replicate in the billions and trillions and then the body starts to repair itself.
	It goes to what's the worst thing and then it goes right down the line and starts to repair everything.
	You have a built-in doctor once you're in the proper atmosphere.
	Actually, I had kundalini activation joined on my chakras and you basically can do it yourself.
	You don't need a med bed.
	So I'm not a huge fan of that.
	I understand a lot of people are not going to go down that road, which is a fairly spiritual road to go down.
	It's not so easy to actually learn it.
	But once you do, you have all those abilities in and of yourself.
	Well, not everybody's able to tap into that, you know that, but this actually expedites the situation.
	Yes.
	My mom, I could tell you that her body went into doctor mode and her emphysema went away and her, you know, fibromyalgia and neuropathy and epilepsy and something that was on her neck that was, I believe, was a dilated C.
	Okay, it starts with that letter C that we are not allowed to talk about.
	Trying to keep this as clean as possible because I think this might make YouTube, maybe.
	We'll see.
	And what else did she get?
	Oh, and the emphysema went.
	I mean, what doctor could you go to and get rid of emphysema?
	Or epilepsy?
	There are a lot of remedies out there.
	You know, I have a different philosophy about this sort of thing.
	So, you know, I'm sure if it works, great, go for it.
	You know, I'm very familiar with the med beds and all of that.
	You know, Simon Parks is working with the White Hats with regard to the med beds.
	Totally.
	They're coming.
	107 said something.
	As a matter of fact, I've got a few questions about 107 with you.
	I know you did a very interesting interview with Nino Rodriguez.
	Are you still claiming that he is JFK Jr.?
	Absolutely.
	100%.
	I've met him in person a few times, had some very long conversations on the phone, and a few I don't wear shorter ones in person and I've met the double, which is the, you know, the guy that pretends to be him as well.
	He's got blue eyes.
	You know, I talk about this.
	All of this is on my website.
	It's all documented with photographs because he's gone in public and been photographed in, you know, when he did the Patriot Double Down in Vegas, which was, I think it's two years ago now.
	Not sure.
	I was there and he actually pared down his disguise and people started taking photographs and those photographs are on my website and you can actually see his actual more John Jr.
	kind of look to him.
	Since then he went back deep in in the disguise and You know he got a big Santa Claus beard and he got even fatter stomach and you know all this kind of stuff.
	I saw him as recently as August at the Renegade Festival or conference this summer.
	Yeah you know I gotta tell you When, I don't know who produced that first documentary that he, when he came out on the scene with that, you know, 1951 Chevrolet truck that was all rusted apart.
	Remember the very first documentary when he came out on the scene?
	Yeah.
	Jennifer Mack.
	Whoever produced that documentary, whoever the producer and director, whoever did that was fabulous.
	Her name's Jennifer Mack.
	She has a website.
	Oh, okay, cool.
	Yeah, I haven't met her, but, you know, I don't know this for sure, but he talks about possibly marrying her.
	Oh, interesting.
	Okay.
	Yeah, they were on the road together shooting the documentary, you know, so I guess a relationship developed.
	I don't know if that's a cover story or not, so I'm not gonna try to, you know, say anything one way or the other.
	But he has talked about this publicly.
	Yeah, he might come on my show as early as tomorrow.
	Not promising.
	Tomorrow?
	Yeah, tomorrow.
	Okay, 107 will be interviewed, maybe, God willing, okay, by Mel Carmine tomorrow, hopefully in the evening.
	That's when I'm going to be available.
	Yeah, typically he does most of his interviews in the evening, so I think it'll probably work out because I got a few things that I can't get away from tomorrow, unfortunately, but hopefully it works out with both of us.
	So, yeah, but when that whole entire thing, the way it was rolled out, they were basically pushing the idea that, yes, this could be, you know, JFK Jr.
	I got the sense of that.
	I have to say that he has never denied it.
	It's a point of honor for him.
	He's been asked directly on camera and he never addresses it.
	He never says yes or no.
	If that doesn't tell you something.
	But there's lots of telltale signs and I have a lot of that on my website and I've done videos about that.
	Interesting, interesting.
	So are you planning on interviewing him at all in the near future?
	I interviewed him once.
	This is two years ago and actually in January of what I guess that would be 2021.
	And and I just recently, in fact, I think yesterday I republished it.
	So I put it on my telegram.
	I have a huge following on telegram.
	So that's where I post daily and I post all kinds of things of interest.
	Not necessarily.
	I'm not promoting them.
	They're just articles and things.
	I come across news items and things, but I do a lot of commentary there.
	So I'll make a lot of comments.
	Sometimes I'll start ranting on a subject.
	So, you know, it's a lot of fun.
	Telegram, I like Telegram a lot.
	It's a very free kind of software, you know, not a lot of rules and regulations, unlike certainly Facebook or YouTube or even Twitter who have limitations.
	You can actually just go on and on just ranting about whatever you want on on Telegram.
	They don't give you, you know, they don't put limits on it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So far so good.
	At least we got one platform that's on our side.
	Where are you on Elon Musk?
	Is Elon Musk even him?
	Or is there maybe a him that's running Tesla and then there's another him that's running Twitter that's maybe not him?
	So I get psychic downloads, whatever you want to say.
	I got a clear message that he was a cyborg.
	Turns out that there's a remote viewer called Dick Allgaier who got the same thing, and this is after I came to this conclusion.
	From what I understand, recently he's been photographed, I think he was with Someone I'm not sure who and this is public and it's a video and Jim Willie was just talking about it on the Patriot Underground interview and he said he's got a mask on now so it might not be the same guy that was the cyborg or it is a cyborg and they're covering up the cyborg.
	things because you can look at him and actually they have videos showing you how the cyborg qualities to his, I guess, the lower face, the jaw and stuff, we're starting to reveal themselves, if you will.
	So he wants to be a cyborg.
	He wants to build cyborgs.
	He wants humans to be cyborgs.
	That's what Neuralink is all about.
	So that's my opinion of him.
	I think he's being run by the White Hats.
	He was always working for the dark side, but I think in more recent years, that's why he bought Twitter basically under their direction and And he's, he's playing ball with them at this time.
	Cool.
	Well, you know, I hope he buys YouTube.
	I really do.
	Because I would love to just grow uninvited.
	Remember the good old days when you were cranking?
	I mean, I think you were up to like $375,000 at one time on YouTube, which was monstrous back in the day.
	I think like the day after they invented YouTube, I think you got a channel.
	It was a twist of fate.
	I became, this is before Camelot even, I became a YouTube director because I was working in Hollywood for 20 years in movies and television.
	So I had a resume and I sent it to them and they made me a YouTube director right out the gate.
	So when people were making 10 minute videos, I was making two hour ones.
	Right.
	That's how we started.
	Yes, I remember.
	I remember because you were partners with Bill.
	We're talking about the early days because your relationship was two years and then it went sideways.
	When you went your way, he went his way.
	I like both of you, just publicly.
	The reality is that, you know, that was way, way, way back in the beginning of time when it comes to YouTube.
	I mean, YouTube has grown a lot as far as functionality.
	We just don't like who's running it.
	Yeah, well basically we grew up with YouTube.
	We started the trend of getting the truth out and traveling the world with a camcorder and just getting documenting testimony, you know, around the world from whistleblowers.
	That was our mission and that was quite unusual at the time and so we had a huge following right out of the gate.
	Right, absolutely.
	I remember.
	Yeah, your videos were not being held back.
	You weren't being censored.
	You can say pretty much whatever you want.
	Actually, that held true until the days of COVID.
	That's why I got actually de-platformed when I started interviewing doctors and talking about what was really going on with the transhuman agenda.
	There was a few videos, though, for about two years prior to that, they started Striking on our videos, so I did 1 on the Kennedy assassination, believe it or not, and they gave us a strike on that.
	So, you never knew what in the early early days of the censorship once it started, which was 2 years about before covet hit the scene.
	They were.
	I was doing like this cat and mouse dance with YouTube, getting, you know, close to three strikes.
	Three strikes, you were out.
	So I would always get up to the limit.
	And then you have to wait for months to post another, you know, video.
	They would stop you from going live.
	Then I had to use other platforms.
	I mean, it was a crazy, crazy time back in those days, trying to avoid YouTube censorship and still stay alive.
	But One night, Robert David Steele, before he died, I did an interview with him.
	It was a very contentious interview.
	It wasn't supposed to be, but it ended up that way.
	And in the middle of that interview, he said one sentence about COVID.
	One sentence.
	And we weren't even talking about COVID.
	The whole interview is not about COVID.
	It was about a tour he was doing across the United States.
	And they took my whole channel down overnight.
	And I had a psychic feeling that something was going to go wrong with it.
	So at 12 midnight, I went in and I marked that video, what you call unlisted, which meant that it wasn't, you couldn't find it unless you had the actual URL.
	Mm hmm.
	And they still they still gave me a strike, which is technically illegal against their own policy.
	So they were out to get me.
	And then four days later, they knocked me off Vimeo, where all my conference footage was.
	So they were working together to basically take us down.
	Luckily, Odyssey, you know, I think Odyssey is actually owned behind the scenes by YouTube or something crazy.
	But Odyssey sucked up 865 or something of my videos.
	There were over a thousand.
	There were many that were marked unlisted at that time and some that were marked private because they were already being censored.
	So they didn't get everything.
	But we actually had copies of everything else and so we uploaded them to complete the library.
	So my library from those days is all free on my Odyssey channel.
	And if you want to find that, you go to projectcamelotportal.com and it's very bold and right in the front.
	All the links will be down below.
	Were you ever able to get a small bag or a couple of small bags of the XRP?
	Because I know we talked about that a couple of times in the past.
	I want everybody to own XRP because I believe in it.
	I know how the movie ends.
	No, I'd like to actually.
	I tried and, you know, it's very hard to get XRP.
	I don't know if they made it any easier, but every time I would go on, somebody would say, okay, go here, sign up, and then you can buy it.
	But then I'd get there and then it was not available.
	So I ended up getting some substitute cryptos, just a tiny bit of whatever they were, and I don't even know.
	I don't even know.
	I went on this thing called Kraken.
	I thought you're supposed to be able to get XRP there.
	But I don't think I was ever able to get it.
	So I don't think I have any XRP.
	I'd like to.
	If you can tell me how to do it, I'll do it.
	It's very easy.
	Very easy.
	You'll pay a couple extra fees by doing it, but the way I'm going to explain it to you is you can buy XLM.
	XLM you could get very easily.
	Yeah, I think I got that.
	This is for your audience as well.
	Let's say you want to buy a parking ticket.
	You know, like $10 or something.
	I don't know, but that doesn't give you XRP.
	Yeah, no, of course not, but I'm going to tell you how to switch it over.
	Okay, so if you buy, let's say you want to own $1,000 or $2,000 worth of XRP, you buy $1,000 or $2,000 worth of XLM, you download it onto your Exodus.io wallet, and then there's a way to convert it.
	There's videos on YouTube that will teach you how to convert it into whatever you want.
	And you could take your XLM and convert it over into XRP.
	Now voila, you got your XRP.
	You put it on your hardware wallet.
	Transfer it over.
	Always have it on your hardware wallet.
	This way you're in total control.
	And you got your XRPs.
	Very simple to do.
	You live in California.
	Now, if you're living in New York, you're cursed because New York is a whole other set of circumstances there.
	If you're in New York, they don't want you to be rich.
	So, I want everybody to own it because I know when the smoke clears, And when the bullshit falls off the walls, and when you understand that XRP is the one that's going to move all of the money, I don't care if you're buying a lollipop, or a condominium, or a Cadillac, all the money will travel through the XRP, okay?
	And we're moving from 5 quadrillion to 50 quadrillion movement per year, because of this Nasara-Jasara world that we're moving into.
	And so when you're talking about moving 50 quadrillion, and that is the 99,000 pound gorilla in the room, That's going to move it all.
	Uh, you know, you're not going to move it with a 40 cent coin.
	They know that.
	They're doing everything in their power to get it out of the hands of the small people.
	Okay?
	I want to do everything in my power to get it in the hands of the small people, as many as possible.
	I want to go down as the guy that, you know, created more hundred millionaires and more billionaires because they listened to Mel Carmine and they all own XRP and they believe that they should wait until the credits roll on the movie and then they'll call you and say, okay, you get to have your day in the sun now.
	You know what I mean?
	Simple.
	It's not that difficult.
	So buy XLM, bring it onto your Exodus.io wallet, parlay it over into XRP, and put it here.
	I'm sure there's plenty of your fans who would love to walk you through the process.
	And if you don't, I will get you to do it with my wife or somebody will volunteer out there.
	I'll get somebody specifically appointed to you that we will get that done for you if you want to go that route.
	Okay, cool.
	You know, so, uh, McAfee, let's jump a little bit.
	McAfee, is he alive?
	Uh, yeah, I imagine he is, uh, you know, he, he didn't kill himself.
	Um, okay.
	And they tried to kill him.
	I think they, you know, basically they did the kind of thing where he looks like he's dead.
	They wheel him out in a, out of the prison in on, in an ambulance, uh, that he comes to, you know, they shoot him.
	with a shot and then he comes back.
	Okay.
	They do it in movies all the time.
	So probably something of that along those lines. - And Robert Steele, is he hanging out with McAfee or Robert Steele is dead? - You know, Juan says he passed on and it's actually a believable story.
	I got to know Robert David Steele quite well, just because he interviewed me a bunch of times, I interviewed him a bunch of times.
	We ended up being kind of contentious towards the end.
	But he was a good guy.
	He meant well.
	He was a good friend of Juan's and I happen to know some personal details that make the story fit into what I knew of his life as to how he was basically killed.
	Like a lot of people who go to the hospital and they get put on ventilators and all this nonsense that Doesn't do them any good.
	And so they actually go the wrong way.
	They die.
	They don't didn't have to die.
	And in fact, it's fascinating.
	There's a woman from Australia, a nurse for 40 years.
	It's a video.
	It's making the rounds on telegram.
	I actually downloaded a copy of it.
	It was so good.
	And she is basically telling us what they're doing in hospitals in Australia, which is, and is it okay if I tell you this or is this not doable on YouTube?
	So what they're doing is they're taking vaxxed people and they're giving them ivermectin, the one thing that, you know, Trump said to take and that actually will cure you.
	And then they're taking Non-vaxxed people and putting them on ventilators to kill them.
	And she documented this in hospitals and she's very outraged, so she went public.
	And it's a fascinating, it's a very short video, but it's, you know, it's unmistakable.
	She is saying what they are doing in Australia to kill people that are un-vaxxed and in hospitals, no less.
	So beware of that, you know.
	You're live on Facebook right now, right?
	Right now we're live.
	Yeah, what I do on Facebook, just so you know, is, you know, I don't do anything on Facebook.
	I don't even answer just so people that write to me on Facebook.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't spend any time over there.
	I'm not a fan of the platform, but.
	I have been able to still continue to do live shows.
	So what I do is I keep my live shows up there for a little while after the broadcast for free.
	And then I immediately put it on Rumble and I immediately put it on my website and on Odyssey.
	And the shows are all free for at least a month, sometimes several months.
	And then eventually they'll go into the subscription area of my site and I remove them eventually from Facebook.
	So they can't pin anything on me because I'm not staying.
	All I do is post, you know, this is my show today and I'm talking to such and such.
	I don't have conversations on Facebook.
	I don't use the platform.
	I use Telegram.
	What are the chances of these platforms surviving, in your opinion, as far as, you know, Facebook?
	Great platform, just run by wrong people.
	Great functionality, just run by wrong people.
	Same thing with YouTube.
	What are the chances we take over?
	I know we're winning this war, but every day there's always new bumps in the road, as you know.
	You know, it's taken a lot longer than we expected.
	I know we got Truth Social, but Truth Social doesn't have yet the video platform.
	It's not global, for example.
	Right.
	It's not as flexible.
	It doesn't have quite the flexibility that it should.
	But I post all the time on Truth Social.
	If I have a show, I post it on Truth Social.
	I watch and read other people's channels on there.
	So I do the same thing over there that I do on Telegram, but they don't have the flexibility that Telegram has.
	Which, again, is something that I love.
	So, you know, but I think all these platforms are viable.
	I think when, if the good guys do win and end up taking, they'll take over all these channels and turn them to the good.
	Maybe they'll destroy some of them because they're not, you can't salvage it.
	Um, I mean, the bottom line is that Facebook is a run it probably behind the scenes and completely fed into the NSA.
	So they are tracking everything you're saying and doing there.
	Um, and always have been, you know, that's a fact, but YouTube's the same way.
	I mean, these, all these channels are like that.
	So they, you know, this is part of the, what's in essence going to be the Borg.
	That they, you know, the Borg AI that you're all going to be part of if Klaus Schwab has his way.
	And if you took the jab, you're already part of it.
	Yep.
	The 17th letter in the alphabet.
	Does Kerry Cassidy believe in the 17th letter in the alphabet?
	Yeah, it's 107.
	Yes, you believe in that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So we're winning, right?
	This is a real movement, not bullshit?
	Oh no, I know the White Hats.
	I've met them, several of them in person, including John F. Kennedy Jr., who's, you know, he and Trump are the leaders of the movement, so.
	What would your social score read in case Klaus Schwab won and you were walking down the street?
	Well, I am a person of interest.
	I'm a targeted individual.
	They've tried to kill me many times and done all kinds of crazy shit to me, but I survived.
	Oh, you're still here.
	You're talking to Mel Carmine.
	That's amazing.
	It's like I went from being a fan to interviewing her.
	It's a crazy world.
	But I'm having fun.
	I tell you, this has been a ride for me.
	I know it's been a ride for you.
	Where do you see yourself in the next three, four years?
	I'm pretty much, you know, I'm kind of a workaholic.
	I'm on this case and I've actually made the White Hats a platform and the drive to turn this world around and to rescue Us from a, you know, a cyborg future, I guess, for humanity.
	I believe that we're going to end up in wars with aliens.
	I think that that White Hats are also going to be involved in that.
	And, you know, so I don't think this, I think this is just the beginning.
	It's not the end.
	It's not, you know, I don't see Kind of.
	I do see some success in the future.
	I have precog dreams, but I don't see everything hearts and flowers in the future.
	I do see that we're still fighting aliens years from now.
	We just took down the biggest gangster in Sicily, Matteo Messina De Niro.
	So there is evidence that they're going after the big guns now.
	The guy runs the three refineries in Sicily, oil refineries, makes over $400 million a year.
	He could buy a lot of people to look the other way and not find him.
	That's exactly what happened.
	But I think because of Nassar Jassar and we are literally at the end of the, they are at the end of their rope because we're definitely going into it.
	I got plenty of people coming at me.
	I got somebody else that's coming through xrplion1 who's on over there on Twitter.
	I just interviewed him yesterday.
	A fabulous, that's going to be an incredible interview.
	You guys might want to watch that.
	And We got another person coming.
	Their second mortgage is forgiven.
	This is number six or seven now, even though we've had many more that don't want to come forward, which we've seen the documentation and those are real.
	So the debt forgiveness is happening.
	We got proof on our channel right down below.
	Okay, and it's happening.
	I think not as fast as we'd all like it, because I don't know how they pick these people, but they are picking them.
	I think they're just randomly picking somebody out of the hat, say, okay, Mel Carmine gets his mortgage forgiven, even though I don't have one.
	I'm just using my name as an example.
	You know what I mean?
	But the reality is that's how I think it's happening, just to drop breadcrumbs to get people to go, you know, what's going on here?
	Okay.
	Maybe.
	Do you remember Donald Trump coming down the escalator when he announced that he was going to run for president?
	Yeah.
	Do you remember the sign behind him on the wall?
	Do you remember what that sign read?
	No.
	Currency exchange.
	All right, fair enough.
	This is for your audience, okay?
	He's been dropping Jussara and Nussara breadcrumbs from day one, and I got them in all my videos practically.
	I say it over and over and over again because 0.00005 of the world's population is involved with this restructure or this re-evaluation of wealth, whatever you want to call it, the biggest transfer of wealth ever, and the rest of the world is still not here.
	So, the breadcrumbs are there for those people who want to see them.
	They're right in front of your eyes, and you can interpret them to be a lot of the people that agree with me, obviously, see it.
	So, I mean, where do we go from here, politically speaking, regarding Trump?
	I mean, the whole world at this point wants him back.
	Everybody.
	Australia, Brazil, Europe, South America, Central America, Canada, everybody wants him back.
	Yeah, I know you want him back.
	Do we see him back in 2023, or does Kerry Cassidy think we're going to have an election in 2024?
	Are they going to let this clown show continue?
	Well, first of all, there were certain comms that he dropped when he announced that he was going to run in 2024, supposedly.
	And one of those has to do with the Republic, not the USA Corporation, where he would be reinstated in March of this year, 2023.
	and sworn in again as president, but this time as the 19th president of the republic.
	So that could happen.
	I still think that that has potential.
	Biden right now, they're trying to take him down, obviously.
	And I think they're going to be very successful on that.
	Even the Democrats, when I'm gone, and they have a motivation, because he's guilty of, he and his son are, in my opinion, and I've written articles about that, done videos on this subject, if you're interested.
	And he is basically guilty of treason.
	And he's been working with the CCP, and he was put in office by the CCP.
	So they don't want that to come out.
	So they're using this classified documents as a red herring to, which is legitimate as well.
	But I think that's a soft landing for him to get out of the office of presidency instead of being charged with treason now.
	I'd like to be even wrong about that because I'd like to see him charged with treason and his son and pedophilia.
	By the way, he's absolute.
	I have seen an interview with a whistleblower that was on the Internet.
	I don't know if it's still on there that actually documents that pedophilia of Biden.
	This guy turned state's witness.
	And it's a fascinating testimony, so if you've never seen it, I don't know how to tell you to look for it because I don't remember the guy's name.
	But at any rate, my take on that is one version is that another version I have had dreams of 2024.
	In fact, Before the election of 2020, in April of that year, so April of 2019, I guess it was, I had a precog dream.
	Not of Trump winning 2020, but of Trump running for 2024.
	And that me, and I know this sounds crazy, but me and JFK Jr.
	were helping him.
	So this was a dream, but I have to say that when he didn't win 2020, I thought, okay, well, my dream is still on track and it still seems to be on track to this day.
	So we'll see.
	And back then, you know, no one wanted to hear that he was going to run in 2024.
	They just wanted to focus on 2020 because, you know, they thought he might win.
	Yeah.
	But he knew damn well he was going to, you know, they were going to steal it.
	That was, you know, the writing was very clear and his entire administration and the military all knew he was going to lose and they were going to steal it.
	So they documented the steal.
	That's the key thing and that's what Robert David Steele said.
	Before he died, on camera, we've got it all.
	So they documented all of the, you know, I think using blockchain, whatever it is, and they actually, and they did the same thing with 2022.
	So they have the documentation to prove the steal, but they haven't come forward with it.
	This is interesting.
	And they also, you know, the Justice Department basically has barred every You know, based on standing, etc.
	Every single case since then that's been brought about the steal, they've turned it away.
	So, the Brunson case is kind of like an amazing case that came out of the blue.
	I did videos and have written articles about that in detail.
	I did a very important interview, by the way, with Loy Brunson.
	If you haven't seen that, you should.
	And so I've been on that story for, you know, the whole time.
	And I know that Juan O'Savin really backed Brunson and continues to do so.
	Recently, he made an announcement that he's got a lot of stuff coming forward about that, about the appeal and so on.
	So that's good news.
	I just wrote an important article, a lot of people seem to like it, that involves a prediction that Utsava made.
	She's a psychic, I don't know if you know who Utsava is, but she's a Trump supporter and she's often correct.
	And she said that Clarence Thomas is the only justice left, that there aren't nine justices, that they've been, you know, basically dealt with.
	Yeah, either gone to Guantanamo under house arrest or whatever it happens to be.
	I don't know.
	I've entertained that possibility.
	There's also the possibility that they're just simply, you know, working from home.
	They're being sequestered and protected.
	Who knows?
	I don't have a lot of faith in the Justice Department.
	You know, I think it's completely taken over most of the time.
	And so on.
	So, you know, what can I tell you?
	I do think that Trump will run, as my dream said, in 2024.
	And my dreams are often correct.
	But there's a caveat there, because Richard Allen Miller, Dr. Richard Allen Miller, who is a physicist who I've interviewed dozens of times, and he's become a good friend, he did a video with me like a year ago or less.
	That was quite controversial.
	He basically says there's going to be an event that is going to happen in end of March, beginning April of 2020.
	So, you know, the election doesn't come to the end of 2024.
	Anyway, this particular event is going to be what they call an extinction level event, but it's not going to be extinction level.
	So, he says that's important to realize.
	They call it like a Carrington event.
	It's an event that will have earth changes involved and he's talked about how the earth earth is going to sort of change and and that it's going to interfere you see with everything that is planned uh for the election of 2024.
	So this is where that's kind of up in the air at the moment.
	We have to see what might come along.
	It doesn't mean he won't, you know, run and win.
	I know that there are obstacles to him winning because and I do a lot of videos on this subject and a lot of, you know, like, as soon as yesterday explaining that, you know, the White Hat agenda.
	The way they did their plan has actually turned some of their audience against them, and they're going to have to really work hard to reverse that in between now and obviously when Trump runs.
	They, you know, it's not impossible.
	Look, all John F. Kennedy Jr.
	has to do is come forward and right then and there they're going to get, you know, the sort of, I guess you might say, a lot of people that will come over to the White Hats realizing if he tells the truth that he's a White Hat.
	He's actually, I've been told, Classified as above general level on a military level.
	That since he went into hiding, he actually joined the military and there are pictures of that and so on.
	And that's on my website.
	So if he does come forward with that information, telling the truth, showing his real face and that he is part of the Trump team, I think that that will go a long way to it.
	You know, and if he explains and tells the truth and Trump tells the truth about what's really gone on, then I think they'll have a chance.
	But I don't know.
	Well, this ties all into the quantum financial system.
	You know Washington, D.C.
	is closed.
	I don't have to sell you on that.
	I mean, Trump came in and he just literally pissed in the cornflakes of the deep state in the biggest way possible.
	He opened up the biggest can of worms.
	He took Pandora out of the box.
	Can't put Pandora back in the box.
	Washington is closed.
	There's no arguing there.
	The IRS, the Federal Reserve, all these buildings are shut down, okay?
	It looks like a ghost town, fenced up with sandbags.
	When was the last time you saw Washington, D.C.
	operate in this manner?
	As in like maybe never?
	Correct?
	Sure.
	So this is all tied in to bring it, the lawsuit with Ripple is all tied in to slow the whole thing down.
	This is a Kabuki theater lawsuit.
	I've said it from the get-go.
	The biggest lawsuit.
	This is going to be the greatest story ever told.
	I mean, this is going to be like, you know, a Netflix story that's going to be like, probably she would be a qualified producer to tell the story.
	Okay, right along Oliver Stone.
	And it's going to be, you know, A hundred seasons and a hundred episodes per season and each episode is going to be two hours long to tell the whole story accurately.
	That's how big the story is.
	Sure.
	It's huge.
	And so I was told also that there are tribunals going on in Guam.
	Did you hear anything of that sort?
	So not Guantanamo, but Guam?
	Guam itself.
	There's three islands, Guantanamo Bay being one of them, Guam being the second one.
	There's a third one, if you guys know, there's a lot of people out there that are a lot smarter than the pizza guy.
	Tell us down there, let us know what you know.
	But there's three islands, because this is not 257,000 sealed in diamonds, we're talking millions.
	I don't know about millions, but there are hundreds of thousands, yes.
	I've heard something like 370,000 or more.
	Maybe those are just the kingpins.
	Well, whatever.
	But listen, this has gone on a while, so I need to get going and shut this down.
	Yes, I appreciate you coming on.
	It's also under two hours.
	Absolutely.
	I appreciate you coming on.
	Please tell us you'll come back again.
	I think this was a riveting interview.
	You guys will let us know down in the comments below.
	If we did a good job, it's going to go viral.
	It should go viral because there's a lot of great information.
	Thank you, Kerry, for coming.
	I'm going to hit the pause button if you want to stay behind for a little bit.
	You want to hit the pause button on your end as well?
	And then we'll just say goodbye to the audience right here right now.
	Guys, it's your job.
	You guys are the digital soldiers.
	You have a job here.
	This war is either won or lost with the digital soldiers.
	Now do your job.
	Okay, thanks everyone for watching, and just so you know, I have to run my credits on Facebook, so I can't stay on this platform.
	There's a certain way I do this in order to preserve the file, so if you want to talk to people, you're going to have to do it a different way, I'm afraid, because I have to save the video in order to have my copy, okay?
	And you should have a copy as well, all right?
	Because that's just the way we do it.
	So thanks again for watching as well, and You know, I'll be back actually doing another interview tomorrow, and I'm interviewing Andrew Bridgen, the MP that got fired or let go or D platform.

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