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Jan. 18, 2023 - Project Camelot

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SG ANON: INTERVIEW BY KERRY CASSIDY 01.17.23

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	Thank you.
	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm very happy today to be able to introduce you to SG Anon, who's decided to come on my show.
	And I just want to say that it's, I think some people might say it's very brave of him, but I'm really actually a pussycat and, you know, most of the time.
	And so I kind of, You know, I'm not as tough as people say I am, so I think that we'll have fun today, and it'll be just an interesting discussion.
	He's obviously very well read into the White Hat platform, and we're just going to drill down into that and world events and see where it all goes.
	So, SG, it's great to have you here.
	Welcome.
	Thanks for having me here.
	Okay, so, What I want to do, first of all, is get you to give us a little of your background.
	I know you've done it on other shows, but we're going to assume that some people are not going to know who you are, that I get new people coming on board.
	All the time, sometimes daily and and we've got a really substantial following out there.
	So this could go out to just about anyone.
	So, for people who have never heard of you, just give a short summation and and then we'll go from there.
	Certainly.
	So the sort of the abridged version I think of my story the best way to tell it is that I woke up coming up to this point on 13 years ago when I discovered that human humanity was being forced into cannibalism against their will.
	It was a moment in college.
	I was doing some research for that and it was to say it was paralyzing.
	It's just not really an adequate description.
	I couldn't sleep for days.
	I lost my appetite.
	I wouldn't eat anything for me from for or that was meat for many months.
	That compelled my life in a direction where I went and attempted to join the United States Armed Forces, got about 15 months into that process, somewhere in there, was forced to leave due to a health condition.
	But in that process, I got to, you know, see a number of individuals in my local government and in various regional areas.
	I had a pretty high ASVAB score and so they were trying to fast track me into certain segments and channels.
	I made a friend actually had a mentor in my in that process before I went in and during that entire process who has sort of stuck with me through the years has always been there as a sounding board as someone I could look up to respect admire has many years of experience and wisdom doing things that I know very little about.
	He had a distinguished period of service in the armed forces of the United States and left honorably.
	Fasting forward, you know, through the decade of the 2000 teens, I really kind of went back to business as usual, if you will.
	After I left the military, I went into some IT studies and things like that and really immersed myself in understanding the matrix that we were all in.
	I went back and finished school.
	You know, I lived my personal life too, right?
	And went out and did the things that we all do, that we all have tried to do all of our lives.
	You know, I began a family and I lived my personal life journey with a couple of different relationships and things of that nature.
	And then the election of Donald J. Trump happened, and then 2017 happened, and his world tour, and then these Q-drops happened, and it was like a bolt of lightning in my soul because I didn't actually come on to the Q-drops at first.
	I was about six to eight months late to the party.
	I'd say spring of 2018 is really when I caught on with what was going on with that.
	But so much of what was being discussed were things that I had been able to track down at different, you know, areas of the web long ago, but were things that I wasn't really able to discuss.
	Certainly wasn't able to blow the lid off of.
	I had read names like Vince Foster and other things like that, you know, over the years and I sort of kind of knew, like you highlighted pre-show, how these people will absolutely go after you and they'll make you look like a car accident.
	So over these last couple of years, I guess five years at this point, really, I have watched the drops.
	I've watched the geopolitical scene.
	I have been witnessing the evolution personally in the background of all of this.
	And my gentleman that I refer to as my mentor actually reconnected with me in a more personal way after some years of being kind of like on a fringe message only every now and then basis.
	Simply because so much of what was coming out in this intelligence operation were recognizable things in certain circles.
	So that's sort of a summary of where I am and what I do.
	I'm a deep dive researcher.
	People have accused me of having access to actionable intelligence in the moment.
	That is simply not true.
	And I don't believe that anyone actually has that.
	That would completely violate operational security.
	Everything that I hear about or research and read Is usually after the fact sometimes it's close after the fact and sometimes it's many weeks or months But it's worth bringing it all together in an aggregated form So that as we go through this journey as humanity all of the newcomers the people that are coming on board Are all sort of aware of where we're at where we've been and what the general idea going forward is I guess that that'd be my close-off for that Okay now
	I want to run some things by you, because there's rumors out there about you.
	You're going to come forward with your face, as we discussed even before we went on the air, but you've also announced it.
	And that's at the end of the month, and I don't know if you want to say who you're doing that with, but it's not on this show, so people can calm down.
	And, you know, because some people thought maybe it was my show.
	And I also want to say that some people thought you were Phil Godlewski.
	I knew you were not.
	You said you're not.
	That should be sufficient.
	But for some reason, it's just not.
	I don't know why you don't even act like him at all.
	So I'm not sure why they do that.
	But that's one thing.
	So just for the record, if you can say you are, you're not, Phil Godlewski.
	No, certainly not.
	I'm a different human being altogether.
	And you know, if folks would sit down and extract themselves just for a moment, they would probably figure that out on their own fairly quickly, because certain things like my timbre, my tonality and pace of speech, diction, the vocabulary, the dialect that I use, I'm not saying that they're better, they're just different.
	They're very, very different.
	So no, I'm not Phil, and everybody will visually be able to confirm that to themselves very soon.
	Okay, and there's one other thing that comes around all the time people are writing to me.
	They think that you're this person who is in the background with videos with Benjamin Fulford.
	And I've interviewed Benjamin Fulford.
	As far as I'm concerned, you're not that person either.
	Um, you know, that is a person who sits in the background and ask questions or something like that.
	I haven't really listened to it, but, um, you know, and that you could be that person.
	Um, as far as I'm concerned, uh, his information is completely different than yours.
	So I'm not sure how is he going to be your mentor?
	And you also said your mentor had a military background if I recall.
	And that they are an American so and Benjamin Fulford for everyone listening is a Canadian and he lives in Japan and he's he's working with the triad.
	So you want to you want to address that at all?
	Well, you pretty much addressed it.
	I'm just going to confirm all of that because it is true.
	I'm not on with Mr. Fulford.
	I have been offered an interview chance with him.
	We attempted to connect.
	It simply didn't pan out.
	I'm not in the background on anything like that.
	And there are a number of individuals out there in the movement who are sort of attempting to infiltrate and sabotage because that's what this deep state apparatus does.
	It's the only thing they really know how to do.
	They're very, very stupid people overall.
	And they are attempting to obfuscate by pretending to be me, masquerading as me on various audio-only calls and things like that.
	So I tell people, use discernment.
	I've not been on with Mr. Fulford.
	I have no association with the man.
	Some of his journalism is interesting to me, but other than that, I can't really comment on it.
	Okay, very good.
	So, we got that out of the way.
	Now, what I'd like to do is also talk a little bit about your mentor, however, and I know that's a secret person, but they are a white hat, correct?
	Am I correct on that?
	No, I don't believe so.
	This gentleman is retired, former active duty, background in We'll just say analysis of cryptography, those types of things.
	Certainly has probably had, well I know, has had a lifetime of experiences that he'll never share with me.
	Some things that he does talk about casually with me whenever we connect.
	Other times it's a wink and a nod sort of situation.
	But no, I do want to stress very clearly, the gentleman that I know as my mentor, I believe is a very wise individual, has a very sort of a lifetime of very cool experiences that maybe not many people are privy to, to filter his perspectives, his analysis, his digestion of things through.
	But I don't believe he's receiving any sort of actionable information from who I believe to be the White Hat Alliance.
	I believe that all of that was locked down In March, April of 2020, when we had the COVID bioweapon sort of unleashed on the world, that was a weapon of mass destruction that necessitated essentially a DEFCON 1 response from every patriotic military on Earth.
	So no, I do want to stress that point.
	I don't believe my mentor's a white hat, but I do believe that he believes the white hats are very real.
	In control to some degree, working to gain control of other areas and that we're in for sort of an interesting time as we implode this system and then live through the rebuilding, the restructuring, the putting our foot to the sidewalk, if you will, and if you will, and actually taking back the levers of our communities.
	Okay, so I'm glad we cleared that up.
	Now, you do get a lot of intel, although I have to say that some of it, it appears that you kind of put it together in your own way and you also admit to that.
	So, it sounds like you could have some direct source material either you or your mentor are getting from the White Hats.
	I'm assuming Rather than hearsay, so, because you, you speak very specifically and you said that in a certain sense, you were selected and asked to come forward.
	So, can you explain how it is that you have a person you refer to you as your mentor, but do you have a white hat contact?
	Let's let's put it that way.
	No, not directly because the only person that feeds me anything that I'm not digging up and attempting to corroborate myself is the gentleman I refer to as my mentor.
	But I will say that You know, what he may have access to or what he may have knowledge of that I simply cannot access because I don't have clearance anymore, I don't know.
	I think that that's a broad subject matter.
	I really leave it alone when I connect because it's really more about, for me, it's about the relationship.
	This is a personal dynamic for me at the end of the day.
	This is a gentleman that's been in my life for a really long time.
	So I sort of stray away from usury, if you will, in that regard.
	Now, it's very possible that he may be seeing things come across his awareness, if you will, that are coming from connections that he has.
	you know, proximally to different things that are going on.
	I really couldn't say 100%.
	What I can say is that some of what I'm told by him does come to pass, but some of it does not.
	And so this sort of stress is that we all really need to do our own research, even me, even when I'm relaying things to you, I attempt to corroborate some of it to the best of my ability.
	But some of it is truly an exercise in trust on my end.
	And while some people have a very big problem with that juvenile response, we do have to have some element of trust as humanity moving forward, but we're never going to get out of this rut that this cabal has put us all in.
	And so that's sort of what I'm seeking to do with that.
	Okay.
	Are you referring to trust as a juvenile and I'll Method of behavior.
	Maybe I got that wrong.
	What were you trying to say was juvenile?
	I believe that many people see those sorts of dynamics as childish.
	I'm here to say that from my own experience and my own relaying message to everyone, I don't believe that's the case.
	I believe that as we evolve as humanity going forward, as we expand our awareness,
	To things many things that you yourself have pointed out over the years and that so many others are starting to draw attention to We're going to relearn that and an environment of vulnerability and environment of transparency when it's based on Solid observation and listening to that intuition that spiritual apparatus that we all have that's really how we create heaven on earth if you will Okay, so, okay, just wanted to clarify that.
	So, it's kind of interesting because you have come forward as a kind of a spokesman for the White Hats, although I guess we haven't gotten that confirmed.
	And I guess that leads me to want to ask you, do you know, for example, Have you met 107?
	Have you met Trump?
	Have you met some of the key players?
	I'm not going to name all the names but, you know, there are a lot of sort of the usual suspects that end up on stage or supposedly, well, Charlie Ward and Simon Parks and, you know, there's kind of a group of people that Pass themselves off as as being white hats.
	Now, there's always that sort of undercurrent that some of these people may not actually be white hats, or they may be playing a double role.
	So, can you talk about your relationship with that group?
	There's not one.
	I've actually not met any of them personally up till this point.
	As it pertains to the individuals that you're talking about, you know, Trump, Trump Jr., people in that circle or that level of things, I've not met them either.
	But I will say that even if I had, I probably would not come out and say that simply because it would be a very special experience for me.
	But no, I've not met them.
	Okay, well, so this is kind of, it's like, puts context to your dialogues.
	Now, you've come forward, you do a lot of research, some of your stuff pans out, some of it doesn't, and I can, you know, actually think back to a few things that have not come to pass that You mentioned and then kind of went by the wayside quickly, but there was a sort of, um, as far as I know, all right, and maybe I'm misled, but I think that a lot of people consider you to be a kind of a white hat spokesperson.
	So they, they listen to you on a daily basis to see what it is the white hats are trying to convey.
	So that would be a mistake in essence, based on what you're now telling me, right?
	Of course, and I would admonish anyone looking for actionable information from the quote-unquote White Hats, if you will, the group that I believe to be the Q Military Alliance.
	I would caution you, that's sort of like gold during a gold rush, right?
	It's the most desired information.
	It's the closest to the truth that we can get.
	It's what everybody wishes to have.
	But if they were to telegraph true, unadulterated information, completely thorough, transparent information to the general populace, at a point in this journey where we still have military operations going on, we still have mainstream media reporting on underground deployments of various militaries in Europe, the Pacific Rim, in Africa, in South America,
	You know, they cannot telegraph those sorts of things and it's sort of maybe unwise a little bit to try and go seeking that information.
	Anything that you find or most of, I shouldn't say anything, but a great deal of what you find is going to have been filtered or adulterated in some sense.
	That's why I try and do as much research as I can when I'm relaying things that I'm hearing from my mentor or that just come across, you know, one of my deep web dives and I find it very interesting.
	I try to do some background research on all of it because There is a tremendous amount of disinformation out there.
	There's a tremendous amount of misinformation out there.
	It's really, really important to do your own research and keep in mind what it is that you're really looking for.
	If we know, so do they.
	Yes, and I often say that.
	Now, it is kind of interesting.
	What I'm talking about, though, and what I think you talk about is actually not what one would call technically actionable intelligence.
	Actually, what it is, is you tend to make certain suppositions, you read the clues in the cue posts when they happen.
	Or even old Q posts, I guess, and you look at Trump's comms, you're pretty astute observer of that and possibly others that, you know, I'm not even aware of at this point.
	So.
	Again, you're, you're coming forward each, you know, you're doing a lot of broadcasts and you're, you know, you just did what was that?
	35 was that 35.
	Today or yesterday?
	I believe it was 36.
	36?
	Okay.
	So, and I think I listened to it right before the show, whatever it was.
	So, I just want to say that based on some of the things you say, you're actually speaking about it as if it's happening, as if it's real.
	And you're also looking at the year like, okay, let me just give an example and let's kind of talk about that.
	So, you talk about, you said, I think, John F. Kennedy Jr.
	is probably going to come forward this year, sometime this year, you know, without the mask, presumably.
	So, when you said that statement, this came from your own research?
	Or, I mean, do you have sources?
	I mean, where does this come from?
	Could you remind me where I said that, Ms.
	Cassidy?
	I'm not 100% sure that I actually have said that particular Yeah, you did.
	I think it was number 34, but I could be wrong about that.
	It was relatively recently, so maybe you should go back and listen to the ones.
	You know, that's what I got, and I think maybe some other people wrote to me about it.
	All right, so if you don't even remember saying that, obviously I don't want to go down that road, but so that may be a miscommunication or maybe you said something related and it got misconstrued.
	Is that right?
	I mean, that's very possible because John F. Kennedy Jr., while I do believe the man to be primarily in witness protection and alive, I don't believe that that is going to happen.
	We're not going to have revelations of that level until we have some of this military justice that we're all hoping for.
	Sort of going into the public space and phase of things.
	This is a physical government operation.
	We have to change the actual levers of power.
	We've been doing that for these last few years, but that process is likely not going to be complete.
	It will not be entirely complete by the end of this year.
	I think by the end of this year, we're going to be into the process.
	We're going to be very united as we the people.
	If we see individuals like John F. Kennedy Jr.
	or others that, you know, I believe to be alive, great.
	But their roles I think are going to come at a point where the educational portion, the writing, the correction of the history, the writing of the history are the main focus and that's going to be a little bit further up the road.
	Okay, so that was a miss.
	Either I heard that or someone told me it, so I don't know which it is.
	Now, there are other things that you've said that, again, it's difficult because the way you're talking to me, like now explaining kind of where you're getting your information, the different places.
	For me, I get source material, so people talk to me.
	And they give me information and I have to decide whether I think it's worthwhile to communicate it or not, depending on the source, depending on their sources, you know, that kind of thing.
	Other information I get is more like a psychic download.
	So then I kind of put all that together and sort of give a rundown to people of what I think is going on.
	But making it clear that that's my Summary or my thesis.
	So in your case, again, you haven't sort of said directly to me that you have sources communicating information to you other than your mentor.
	Do you have sources?
	Well, in a more of a journalistic sense, though I'm not a journalist, and I do want to stress that that's never been an aim of mine on this journey.
	It's simply not conducive to the life that I'm living with my family.
	But in that sense, I connect with members of my local community all of the time, some in law enforcement, some in the reservist base here locally.
	There's an army reserve base not far from here.
	A number of friends over there that have come into my place of work, and we've just established a relationship.
	I've got a couple of doctor friends locally that have given me information regarding faulty or, excuse me, you know, safety reports and research and things that have been altered or adulterated in some way.
	So in that sense, yes, there's a pulse that I have that I think all of us have access to if we're willing to get involved in our local communities.
	There are professionals, there are individuals involved in local government, there are individuals involved in
	Medicine and finance and things like this that might be willing to talk to you if there's a relationship there And I think that's a good point to stress is that there is a difference between what I do which is primarily connecting the dots Attempting to provide some scaffolding of understanding to a broad worldwide situation versus the more journalistic primary source angle that many like yourself and others have zoned in on and have made very effective and
	You know, very big weapons of war for truth, if you will.
	It's important for people to know that the information, all of the information that they're getting, they can research on their own.
	It's a little bit more difficult these days, but that's sort of the lesson we're all learning here is it's very important to do that research and connect with some sort of primary idea or primary source, if you will, to validate it when you can.
	Okay so uh you know and I think that that's helpful to people because again there's a lot of conjecture out there about you about your background and this and that um so maybe that helps clarify uh where you're coming from.
	Although um now I have a whole list of questions that are actually not about you particularly but they're about um the situation out there and I'm going to be asking you With the idea that you have some knowledge in this area.
	Okay.
	So, again, sometimes it can be helpful, at least from a journalist point of view.
	If you cite your sources in a sense that I think sometimes you have said, like, your mentor has said to you this or that, but and you have also been kind of specific when you said that you.
	You know, you got this from Trump or you try to you try to identify a direction where something is coming from so that that that people even doing their own research can can kind of have an idea of of where you're getting your information, you know, now, do you consider I know that you become quite spiritual and that it was but well, this is my understanding.
	It was because of some kind of health issue that drove you in that direction.
	The reason I'm asking is because I freely admit that I went into a deep meditation in my 20s and linked all my chakras and reached Samadhi multiple times and so on and so forth.
	That's a Kundalini activation.
	And I've never heard you use these kinds of terms.
	So I don't know if you're aware of them.
	I don't know if you experience them.
	But I guess what I'm asking you is that do you feel that you have get downloads or psychic ability from an unseen, the unseen realm?
	Let's put it that way.
	Of course.
	And that really is the main focus, I think, for me on my personal journey.
	And it would be the main core.
	That's actually the core issue, the core message that I would convey to all humanity.
	We are unbelievably incredible beings.
	What you're talking about with Kundalini and activation and things like that, I refer to often as reactivating or realigning your energetic centers.
	You know, we are multi-dimensional beings.
	We have a connection directly to Source, to Infinite Love, to God, if you want to use the term.
	I personally come from the lens where, you know, there is a God in there and, you know, I was raised in a biblical mindset.
	But it's very, very important to understand that on the subject of spirituality, It is by far the most adulterated, most corrupted area of our world in the sense that they tried everything they could for thousands of years to eradicate all of this information and they simply just could not get, they just could not get all of it.
	That God of all things, that love of all things made it to where we had everything that we needed at different points along the way in this journey and now we're discovering that we can have all of it as we go forward and You know, re-equate ourselves with what our equipment does, what our glandular systems are capable of doing, what our third eye is capable of doing.
	There is a center, it's often called the third eye, but it is a connection to a cosmic A larger, much more vast consciousness.
	But in order to arrive there, we sort of have to go through this spiritual journey of reactivating our energy centers, getting ourselves into a place where we can receive those sorts of, you call them downloads, I call them inspirations.
	That communication from the unseen we are spiritual beings in a flesh suit The reality that we walk day and night the reality that we get out of bed to every morning I know that it seems very real, but it's all a dream We are creatures of thought form and being able to sort of understand and control and direct that thought We can influence our very realities.
	We can change our lives we can literally I hate to use the term manifestation because it's been used so much in this sort of very deceitful dogma that's been practiced, but we have the ability to influence our physical reality based on where we're at with our spiritual apparatus, how our spiritual body is working.
	And this cabal has weaponized that against us on purpose for thousands of years.
	It's how they have managed to keep this control matrix.
	They created all of the designs needed, and then our co-creative abilities, if you will, our abilities to tune into a higher power, because we are connected to that god force.
	We are sustained by that love of all things.
	They helped create the prison.
	So here we are, and we're now breaking free.
	This is the most exciting time to be alive, Carrie.
	Okay, yes, and I've heard you say that.
	All right, so that more or less answers my question, and I think we can now go to these more worldly questions with people understanding that you do have whatever you want to call it, but spiritual and some possibly, what you might say, intuition.
	You exercise your intuition.
	You have What you say is inspiration and and so on and that does factor in to the work that you're doing and for the things that you say on the air, right?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So now this is kind of interesting because Davos is just happening right when we're doing this and I guess you heard about Klaus Schwab was not going to come then he came and and that What I heard, I think from Nina, was that Soros walked out, so I'm assuming he stayed away, but I don't know that.
	So there was lots of things going on, and then there was an article out there, I forget the publication, but it said that 50% was the number, I think they said, of the people that were supposed to show didn't show this year.
	So with that in mind, is there anything that you can tell us about What if you know anything behind the scenes, or what's motivating what's happening in Davos and also, you know, that does work into things like whether Schwab is really Schwab anymore, you know, whether he's a double.
	Or a clone, or whatever.
	In other words, you do tend to talk about this from time to time.
	Like, you know, with regard to Kamala, you talked about it.
	You talked about it, Pelosi.
	So what would you say about Schwab and what's going on right now in Davos?
	That's actually the topic that I'm researching actively right now because I really want to understand it deeply.
	From the research that I'm doing, we're seeing all of these key players that did not show up, and really the reasons given are sort of paltry and almost weak.
	And we know that at different points along this journey, we've been able to see instances, and if you believe in the Q-drops, if you follow Q-drops like I do, there have been instances where Q talks about certain individuals in this pathway to freedom, if you will, were offered a deal to preserve something that was important to them in exchange for their cooperation to sort of get humanity to the other side and get this power structure dropped as quickly as possible.
	I really think that's playing into this.
	I think that that's factoring into what's going on.
	We had quite the performance from John, I believe it was John Kerry, talking about declaring war on we the people of the world if we weren't sort of along with the climate idea.
	We've talked, we've heard things about digital ID, the ability to exchange commerce with chips under the skin, sort of all of this coming out from the World Economic Forum.
	You know, individuals like you and I have known this for a very long time, right?
	This is nothing new, but now it's on a very full display with a bullhorn for all the sleepers, the normies, the masses to see.
	And it's really unusual that, especially as it pertains to COVID, a lot of these individuals that did not show up to the WEF this year are very intrinsically linked to this rollout of the COVID pandemic, the COVID, the bioweapon vaccine agenda, the transhumanism.
	So I think that's an interesting correlative that we should investigate more.
	I don't know anything going on behind the scenes, but I can say that something doesn't smell quite right here.
	Okay, absolutely, 100% I have to say.
	Well, I guess we're going to have to stay tuned for that so that if you do come across more information, you can share it, I assume, in your communiques.
	But it is a rather sort of a frustrating angle because they have sort of assigned themselves.
	In fact, there's one video in particular where they basically say they are the New World Order.
	And they are the new world, and they are going to be now broadcasting as such.
	There's, you know, and I forget when that was done, but it was a few months ago, not very long ago.
	And you might recall what I'm talking about.
	So this group is sort of assigning themselves as the front men and women for this organization that's trying to take over the world.
	And I guess my question is, What are the white hats kind of doing about that because it's it's very interesting game and I you know I sent you just so people know I sent you my dark poet post.
	You know, a recent video I did, and I also sent you one of my articles.
	I can't even remember which one, but at any rate, I was hoping to sort of make you realize that I was, that I'm a totally dedicated White Hat follower, if you want to call me that, and that I've dealt with the White Hats over many years, much longer than what appears to be most people.
	Um, and and because of that, I have a different approach to their plan and that I do have.
	I am critical, openly critical of certain aspects of the plan as it's being rolled out at the moment.
	Maybe tomorrow I'll become a huge fan of something, but.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So when I look at this situation, they don't seem to have a public face.
	In fact, you know, there are people making, you know, videos and even, I don't know if you know who this MAGA guy is who posts on rumor mill news, but he wrote a very long article basically saying they don't exist.
	And I know how that can maybe facilitate on the one hand, because You know, working in secret and organizations such as theirs.
	That's actually how they started.
	I assume you're familiar with their early days back and, you know, before that, even the Kennedy administration.
	So with that understanding that, you know, they, they sort of became in a sense, a secret society and they've continued in that vein.
	But if you want to awaken people it's my premise.
	That you actually need to talk to them and you need to have a presence.
	Now, they may want to have a presence eventually, but the time they're spending without a presence.
	Maybe working for them in some ways, I think it's working against them and others.
	Because I deal with awakening people, I'm very concerned about this.
	I'm concerned about their public face, so to speak.
	So, can you address that concern from your perspective?
	And you don't have to say that, you know, secrecy works for secret operations.
	We kind of know that.
	But you can have two faces.
	You can have You can be doing secret things behind the scenes.
	There are many members in their organization at this point.
	They've got a military arm that can be totally secret, but there can be a, you could call it PR in my opinion.
	Uh, for example, 107 is definitely a white hat and he is a spokesperson.
	He's a spokesperson with their authorization, if you will.
	And he's made that clear in certain ways.
	I've met him in person.
	He's made that way that that clear to me unequivocally and also know that.
	I guess it's okay for me to say that.
	Well, maybe I won't use their work, their names or whatever, but.
	2 of the spokespeople for for them for the White hats have I know for a fact, they've signed agreements with the White hats.
	So that they're kind of under their direction and they're being, you might have said a deal might have been made with them so that in exchange for their services during this time, And they have to toe a certain line.
	Where I am a free agent, you know, I did try to join them, but they wouldn't have me on board, supposedly, because like you said, they closed down.
	He said it was the time was passed or whatever, which I don't think makes sense in wartime, but nonetheless.
	Okay.
	I know it makes a certain kind of sense, but I know there's a long winded.
	So to get back to the, to the nut of the question, I'm basically asking you, they don't have a public face.
	They want to change consciousness.
	Charles Schwab, I mean, Klaus Schwab has got a public, they have a public face.
	The dark side has a public face, the Illuminati, okay?
	And they've got several of them actually, including the Vatican.
	So how do you respond to that?
	You know, my response to that might be a little long-winded as well, but I do want to start off with the premise, just clarifying going forward, that I very much enjoyed your interview with Mr. Zublik, and I enjoyed the article you sent, and I actually agree with a lot of the points that you made privately, simply because this is being done by forces that I choose to believe are a little bit higher and a little bit more in the knowledge than I am.
	But this was actually, you know, I struggled with this issue for a long time.
	I struggled with the issue of the bioweapon kill shots in particular.
	They have taken people from me.
	They have taken friends of mine that were very dear and very young, one of which was an outstanding master's nursing student headed for great things far before her time.
	So it is important to stress when I talk about this that this is a bit of a spiritual reconciliation for me on a personal level.
	But it was cleared up for me a little bit when I was having a discussion with actually a minister here in the area where I'm at.
	He's more of a non-denominational, if you will, sort of minister, but coming from that Christian lens.
	And we were discussing this idea of free will and willpower and things of that nature.
	And if all of these things are true, then why are we being allowed?
	Why is humanity having to suffer in the way that we're suffering?
	It's really not fair.
	And he brought up an interesting point, and he said, well, this mafia, this cabal that you talk about, they always have sort of someone to look up to, right?
	Isn't that sort of their shtick?
	They like being worshipped.
	They love the attention.
	They love the energy.
	They love the, you know, the bloviating.
	They enjoy it.
	They get off on it.
	If we're going to have something that rises in the light, sort of, you know, darkness rises in light to meet it sort of situation, Then we have to present it to humanity in a way that there's not really anything to worship, there's not really a savior to be had, except for us learning our true nature, us learning what's really going on in the world, and then taking decisive action as a result of that.
	I believe we got a lot of that from the Q operation.
	I believe that we're continuing to get a lot of that, this sort of circumspect Confirmation from even President Trump directly.
	I mean, the gentleman's retruthing things like WWG1, WGA, all over the Truth Social profile and memes that have him as the Q King and the Ultra MAGA King and things of this nature.
	So the man is very well read into what I think the pulse is with the movement as far as the movement's concerned.
	But as we go through this process as mankind, and this is what the minister, my local minister was telling me, We're learning who we really are without having to look to anybody at an earthly level.
	We're all having to look inward or look above, whatever metaphor you want to use for getting back in touch with our spiritual nature.
	And that's really how we save humanity and safeguard future generations.
	If we don't have the generational lesson, Then three or four generations passes, evil begins to thrive again, corruption begins to sort of seep its way in again in the future, and we wind up back in the same spot 200-300 years from now.
	I think this is really more of a longitudinal journey that they're playing, and it's about our identity, I think, as spiritual beings.
	Okay, but that that's a nice answer, but it doesn't really answer my question.
	So the reason okay, let's, let's talk about what we're doing right now.
	We are 2 people that are, you know, we have our own backgrounds in our own investigations, and we've come together to discuss this.
	Okay.
	And there is a phenomena going on on the Internet.
	Um, actually, and I, you know, in the early days and my former partner were instrumental in this movement, if you will.
	And it has to do with telling the truth, disclosing the truth on video and on the YouTube and on what has become the web and now is rumble and blah, blah, blah.
	So this, Platform is a platform in which which humans can talk to humans can actually see their faces.
	Although some people have been hidden, of course, and and, but in the most cases, a lot of us have chosen to have our faces on the screen and to communicate and you could even say in a way that is is somewhat.
	Reminiscent.
	of mainstream news broadcasts.
	There is a level at which it has nothing to do with, in my point of view, putting someone on a pedestal adoration or wanting adoration or any of this stuff.
	It has to do with our human connection.
	Whether we can do it in person, you know, but the fact that we can be on this worldwide web together and that we can share You know, our humanness, our faces, that you can look at a face and I want to apologize to people that I'm broadcasting live on Facebook.
	Facebook has a very weird thing that if you have a person on with you that doesn't show their face.
	They only focus on the other person, so then all you see is the person, you know, who's talking, but the other person never shows up.
	So it's, you know, I'm actually recording both, so you'll be able to see me and you'll be able to see at least the banner for Anon, but SG.
	But what I'm saying here is that You know, you're kind of addressing this idea that you don't want people to hear about worship, but that's not the question.
	The question is whether or not it serves the White Hats and it serves the movement not to have a known presence, if you will, to where people can identify them and people can
	Talk with them and people can see them and they're, you know, because by the way, you know, as you may know, we communicate on many levels, you know, right now, people hear my voice, the people who will be watching me on the video.
	Are going to see my expressions.
	They're going to see the way I use my hands.
	They're going to see my facial micro expressions as they call them in your case.
	They see nothing.
	Nothing.
	They only see they only hear you now.
	I kudos to you to want to feel brave enough to come forward to show your face.
	You know that takes courage, but it takes courage for me every day, you know, and I've been I've been have death threats.
	I've actually had death things happen where they tried to kill me, you know, and and I persist.
	I think that human connection is absolutely vital.
	And in fact in during these times these so-called exciting times as you call them.
	It's more vital than ever in part because we are being Dehumanized on a daily basis.
	And they're trying to keep us separate.
	I mean, witness the whole COVID thing.
	They wanted you locked down in your house where you didn't have, you couldn't even, you weren't even supposed to hug people.
	And in Britain, you weren't supposed to have They actually tried to address how you had sex.
	I mean, it's unbelievable what has been going on out there.
	Of course, you know this.
	But what I'm saying is, do not misunderstand me.
	I am saying that the White Hats need a presence.
	They need spokespeople.
	And luckily, they've got a couple of them, but personally, I don't I don't think I think 107 he's the real thing.
	Okay.
	I know he is.
	However.
	Other people like yourself that are being considered to be spokespeople for them are not really giving them.
	How do you say it?
	You know, like, I am Camelot.
	I am Project Camelot.
	You can see me.
	You can hear me.
	You can see my videos.
	You can see what I write.
	In other words, you get, you know, I have a presence.
	So, I don't see the White Hats having a presence yet.
	Now, I know that's been purposeful, but it has nothing to do with making a hero out of somebody, in my opinion.
	It has to do with the connection That you need with the masses in order to change people and in order to communicate on all the different levels that we communicate on some of which are nonverbal and maybe even predominantly nonverbal.
	Some are telepathic.
	Some are have to do with the field of resonance and so on and so forth.
	So.
	And it's kind of fascinating to watch 107 who doesn't want you to see his face.
	So he wears this huge disguise.
	It's a bodysuit.
	And he goes to a conference like I was at the Reckoning with and he was there and he'll go on stage and then tell everyone to lower their camera and trust that nobody's going to show his face even though he's wearing a mask, a huge mask, huge beard, a huge cowboy hat, you know, blah, blah, blah.
	What this does is it distances them from the very people they're trying to reach, in my opinion.
	So I guess I'm kind of like trying to get your take on this and telling me they don't want hero worship is not an answer.
	Again, are they trying to change hearts and minds?
	If they are, they need a presence.
	You understand?
	PR, if you want to call it that.
	Well, you know, on the issue of presence, I think that between individuals like Mr. Sabin, Donald Trump, individuals in the Trump circle, Dan Scavino, various congressional members that we know have been brought up several times by Q and seem to be performing pivotal roles.
	Jim Jordan just recently launching a weaponization committee in government, wasting no time essentially hitting the ground running with all of this.
	I think those are our presences.
	With regards to what you're discussing, you're referring to human connection and all of these things, and that's sort of, I think, what we're trying to be elevated above, if you will.
	We have the ability to go within and have a much higher connection.
	We have the ability to connect with one another telepathically.
	We have the ability to, um, you know, you've talked about tuning into different Kundalini things and different energy vortices, if you will, out there.
	These all, these exist all throughout our earth and we can tune into them.
	We can tap into them, but none of that happens if we don't go inward and come into our own power organically.
	I appreciate that answer, but it is not an either-or situation.
	There's a reason, and it's a spiritual reason, why we come onto the planet to Take part in these actions, these plays, and why we have a physical body, as opposed to not just living as, you know, part of the Borg, for example.
	Where, yes, we will communicate, you know, telepathically.
	That's not all there is.
	Spiritually, Again, because we communicate, all these spiritual things are also part of the physical realm.
	They're also here with us.
	Therefore, yes, these people are kind of disparate voices, but if I'm incorrect, you know, say so, but I don't think that they I firmly acknowledge being members of the White Hats.
	There's a reason why people are going, you know, writing things, pontificating about the fact that they think the White Hats quote-unquote don't exist.
	I've got a very brilliant friend who's quite misled, that's a given, but he will say to my face, the White Hats don't exist.
	And yet I've met them.
	I've talked with them.
	I've even worked with them.
	So I'm even unusual in that way.
	Most people out there haven't necessarily met Trump or met, you know, Dan Scavino in person necessarily.
	And I'm not sure that they would consider him a spokesperson for the White Hats necessarily.
	I think he's a fan.
	I don't know if he's a spokesperson.
	Again, we're talking about a human connection and I, you know, I appreciate your wanting to emphasize the spiritual aspect of this, but it's often a mistake to think that you can discount the physical realm because you emphasize the spiritual realm.
	They're actually one and we exist and we exude, you know, we are light beings.
	And that's what we exude.
	And when people see us, there is a connection.
	There is a field of resonance that goes out.
	And it's a very real physical thing.
	When you break that, when you deny it, when you have a gap between you and your audience to where they can't see you.
	Even telepathically.
	And many of us are quite telepathic at this point, and getting more so as time goes on.
	You know, it's not enough.
	So, you know, we don't have to prolong the topic, because obviously you're not necessarily agreeing with me that they need a physical presence to connect with their audience, but
	And again, I don't think that these sporadic people who don't, in other words, it's not a platform, it's not a clear, you know, the Republican Party is in a lot of ways supposed to be their, I don't know, bastion, but, and I have questions about that as well, because the Republican Party, the old Republicans, for in a large way, I mean, you're a researcher, you must know that those people Got Trump into office in many ways.
	They've physically donated money.
	They're a huge constituency that Trump has to report to and, you know, be responsible to.
	And by the way, Trump is often, I'm sorry, you know, and I said this on a recent video, he's often lying to the public.
	He's playing two roles.
	Now, this gets into the, you know, cog continuity of government and how much you know about it and you sound like you know a lot.
	Um, I've studied it a great deal, uh, and I've also looked into, you know, I've watched Trump and I've listened to him and there's a discontinuity there because as 107 said on many, many videos, now you could say that he's wrong.
	Okay.
	So if you want to say that be my guest, I don't think he's wrong.
	He said the military swore in Trump as commander in chief in March of 2021.
	And he said this in so many videos, it's ridiculous.
	So, you can't mistake his words.
	You can't say he didn't mean it.
	It's real, all right?
	So, and it's part of continuity of government.
	Yet, he will say things like, look at what they're doing at the border.
	Isn't that strange?
	Like, he has no responsibility whatsoever as Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces, by the way.
	Hello.
	Same thing with money going over to Ukraine.
	He is responsible.
	It's happening on his watch.
	I don't care if Biden is the puppet.
	And you even said, in one of your statements, that the White Hats put Biden in place.
	Now, I don't think you meant that, because that would mean that they engineered the stolen election themselves, and they stole it.
	That's not what happened, okay?
	So, We have to acknowledge that the dark side and the Democrats and a certain portion of the misguided American people put Biden in place, okay?
	And a plot with the CCP, MI6, the Vatican, the Vatican satellites, the Germans, etc.
	This has all been explained very well by, among other people, 107, but certainly if you follow and you research and so on.
	So, sorry I'm talking so long here.
	What do you have to say to all that?
	Well, there's a lot of content there, Carrie.
	You know, I think we should start with the whole Biden thing and sort of work our way backwards from there, if you will.
	You know, the military knew that COVID-19 was coming.
	These sorts of operations have not been strange to military intelligence at any point in time ever.
	Military intelligence, they're, the only reason they exist is to know basically everything.
	So this was going on, you know, for many years.
	They were tracking it for many years.
	And then it was unleashed upon the world.
	We had a situation where Trump federalized a million active, excuse me, a million National Guard troops to active duty status.
	A litany of executive orders through 2020 and into 2021 sort of set us up with a scaffolding for a continuity of government slash expanded military authority situation where the armed forces of the United States, I believe, are given provisional control of the true levers of government here in the U.S.
	But we still have this sort of bankrupt U.S.
	Corp power structure that has enough individuals willing to come to work, if you will, That they've been sort of persisting in the background as well.
	You know, as we've gone through this process, one of the things that has become clear to me is that we took out key factions between 2016, 2018, and 2020.
	But the vast majority of the things that have to happen with this power structure to come down with, and this is why I believe we're incognito, Have to occur.
	They have to occur physically.
	We have to allow the opportunity in some respects, in some areas for these black hats to undo themselves, to show themselves, to unveil their espionage networks through activation.
	Regarding Trump's responsibility in all of this, I would love to opine on the man, but I just don't feel myself in a place where I can, because I can't imagine truly being in the situation he was in.
	A situation where it was a weapon of mass destruction attack on our country and the world, with obviously, as you know, a vast amount of domestic assistance and espionage and treason, sedition, things like this, that essentially sold out our Republic.
	We've essentially been on life support as a nation now for the last couple of years.
	To what end this military operation goes, how far they allow certain things to actually happen in the public space.
	I really wish that I could opine on that, but I just don't feel like I'm qualified to.
	I can say that there are levers of power that we can see that we can witness being leveraged throughout the world, different military operations that we can track.
	We may not know what they're doing, but we certainly know that they're active in vast and very unusual patterns.
	And it's multinational.
	I mean, we're seeing a litany of foreign militaries in the airspace above the United States, above restricted air bases, things like that.
	So there is something going on.
	There's some vast coordination going on.
	And yeah, I do, but like you, I believe that Trump was read in, in March of 2021 as the commander in chief.
	But is the commander in chief being essentially just sort of delegating to his advisory panel, if you will, and allowing them to pull most of the strings?
	I would imagine so, probably.
	I really don't know.
	This is an issue I think that the history books are going to have sort of an issue or sort of a time sorting out because we're going to have to have a lot of clarity about things and I think that there's a lot more that we the people have to see, have to visually be given.
	It has to come out To sort of congeal this together or we're not going to have sort of a general acceptance for healing moving forward.
	Okay, and I understand what you're saying there and it's understandable, I think, to the audience as well.
	However, You know, perhaps it has to do with, I guess, my take.
	And my take is also intuitive.
	And I don't get that Trump is actually giving the levers over to the military to kind of make their own decisions.
	In fact, I can tell you, and this is a fact.
	That 107 has said to me that they have relied on two things, two major things, to decide what to do.
	One is the generals and two is an AI.
	And he said, you know, one of the things he said to me was kind of like, we have the generals and the AI, why do we need someone like you?
	Because I was trying to volunteer to help them because I thought they needed help.
	Um, so, you know, he wasn't kidding.
	And I, you know, I've gotten other verification of this as well.
	So, that being the case, I don't think Trump is, again, there's no abdication of responsibility here.
	In fact, it's not even possible.
	And the other thing is that this goes for a lot of the White Hats.
	I can tell you that when I talk about this, I get lots of mail and I get lots of people agreeing with me 100%.
	Now, the people that write to me, it's a given that they're probably a lot more awake than, you know, the sort of masses out there that are still mind-controlled.
	So, you may or may not find their opinions important.
	I find them important, but you know, whatever.
	So the point is that I'm trying to make is that it's not a secret.
	What I'm talking about, it's not even hidden.
	It's actually kind of in your face.
	And that begs the question as to whether this, you know, when you have a contradiction that's glaring, such as when Trump is supposed to be the commander in chief, and at the same time, he says, Look what's happening at the border, like, as if he has no responsibility whatsoever.
	In fact, according to continuity of government, if you look at the what is called.
	Gosh, I think I'm forgetting the name of it, but it's a cog and it's a whole publication that this guy did.
	Sorry, because it's been a while since I've been back there, but I read pretty much the whole thing and it was excellent.
	It's a very excellent sort of layout and pulls in all the articles and everything that was done by Trump before he left office with full knowledge.
	He had, and the White Hats had, and the military had, that this takeover, that this takedown, that this, that the stolen elections would happen, that this, that we were being invaded, and that we would definitely be invaded even more so at the time of the 2020 election.
	They were prepared for it since 2016.
	They had, in essence, four years to prepare, if not more, because their plan goes back way before that.
	In other words, elections had been stolen.
	Even John F. Kennedy's election was stolen.
	That has come to light.
	So elections in America have been stolen all through The years and even Trump.
	I have background knowledge.
	I don't know if you've ever heard me talk about this of white hats in the Navy who hacked the election that was being stolen from Trump in 2016 back.
	That is 100% correct.
	And I have a person who was a whistleblower who they killed right after Trump got into office.
	Okay, and and his last name is Davis and I interviewed him.
	In full view of the public, I got to know his father and his, you know, in essence, interviewed his father.
	In fact, it's on Camelot.
	So what I'm trying to say is that.
	Although you're painting a certain kind of a picture, Trump, and this is another thing, and you watch Trump and his comms, Trump is actually an extremely brilliant showman.
	And he's not just that.
	I would say that this plan, if you want to call it a plan, their plan, was hatched back probably the day after John F. Kennedy was murdered.
	And the White Hats that were around at the time, including John F. Kennedy Jr., including Trump,
	basically realized that our government had we'd had a coup that our government had been taken over back then and it's been that that way ever since so what the white hats are really doing is taking back our government from a coup that happened when they took they assassinated john f kennedy and they had a plan back then not the white hats but the dark side and they continue to have a plan and this kind of gets into another
	Question for you, which is you talk today, even in your broadcast, which I thought was very good.
	You know, I think you do a brilliant job.
	By the way, I should let you know that.
	I think you're very good at what you do, but I do have some criticism sometimes because I think.
	You make statements that you don't realize how they can be taken more than one way.
	And maybe that's just the danger of being a public person.
	And maybe you're not even used to being a public person the way I am, because I've been doing this for 18 years.
	And you learn that you have to be very careful in how you speak, because people will misunderstand you.
	And even when you're careful, they'll do it on purpose at times.
	They'll misquote you.
	They'll lie about you.
	I mean, it goes on and on, but.
	Coming back to the situation.
	So we had a coup with our government.
	We have a dark side with a plan, and their plan is to turn us into part of the Borg, to take away our freedoms completely, to make us a slave society for good, and so on.
	And it's a transhuman agenda.
	They want us to become cyborgs first, and COVID and the Jabs have to do with that, and this nanographene oxide.
	And, you know, see, I don't know how far you've gone down this road, but I've gone really far down it, and I've got whistleblowers on this subject, okay?
	And scientists who have educated me as to the capability of nano, nanographene oxide, what it's capable of, what it does, the fact that it's aware, and so on and so forth.
	So, we're looking at not just a coup in our government, we're looking at a takeover This is not a superficial matter and it's not, of course, limited to the United States.
	So when I say to you that Trump is demonstrating a clear contradiction to the people who listen to one and he has quite a good
	amount of audience out there all right so he has especially of the you know the the white hat followers or whatever you want to call us you know the the q movement you know there's lots of names you could give give us right uh the maga movement if you will and so they know of the contradiction and they puzzle over it they're confused they're upset okay And these are nice words for what they say to me.
	And I also know that a substantial number of them right now, as we speak, are turning against the White Hats for just these reasons.
	Because the contradictions in the behavior is so pronounced that they don't know how to put the picture back together.
	And this is a danger for the White Hats.
	And I'm a White Hat.
	I'm concerned because of this.
	I consider myself a White Hat.
	Even though I'm not officially in their organization.
	So, I'm trying to warn them about this sort of thing.
	And I'm trying to warn you because here you are.
	All right?
	Do you see why it's important?
	And the fact that if somebody's trying to turn all of human manatee into cyborgs and next after that is basically androids.
	Um, and change the face of the earth forever and leave the earth and go out and conquer other races off planet.
	However, you want to say, you know, on the flat, flatter, however, you want to.
	Dignify that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	In other words, this is not just an American thing.
	And these are not superficial things that I'm bringing up here.
	And it's not good enough to say that it's fine, that they don't have, that these contradictions can continue.
	And they think they're going to continue to have a following.
	And they're going to awaken people on top of it.
	You can't awaken people that you lie to continually.
	that you wear disguises that you you kill somebody and then in a tribunal and you bring them back and and they look like they never left because they're a double or a clone this is again these are contradictions all right they may serve some idea that the That the AI and the generals have, but they've got to realize they have an underlying, you know, something is being eroded as they do this.
	their trust.
	It's really a trust factor between the White Hats and the people.
	You know, I'll tell you, all of that is fair.
	I mean, I actually, I share the same opinion in a lot of respects.
	As we go through this process, as things are allowed to become more uncomfortable, or as they aren't allowed, maybe they have to because we're retaking areas that we don't actually fully have control of.
	It's going to alienate individuals that have sort of been on this journey for a while.
	I guess the way that I would go about thinking about it for my own self, the way that I do go about thinking about it, is I dial into that pulse of individuals that represent a significant number of people, both in the United States and around the world, who would be perfectly fine patriots if they really truly had an understanding deep within of the reality of the earth, the reality of the matrix that they live in.
	I work routinely with individuals in the 21 to 30 space, a very gaslit demographic, a demographic that sort of doesn't really have an understanding of just about anything, even the basic history that awake patriots have been able to dig up.
	And they are beginning to question things.
	They are beginning to come around to these ideas of the central banks.
	One of them recently within my sphere used the term Rothschild.
	I about fell over.
	So I guess, you know, my answer really, Carrie, is that I agree.
	With what you're saying, primarily.
	I do believe it's time to get this show on the road.
	I don't think that continuity of government can sustain us very much longer, to be perfectly honest.
	I know that we have military operations running around the world right now.
	And I know that they're doing, I'm certain that they're doing everything that they can in regards to those to ensure that they succeed.
	But as we go forward through this process, it is making a demonstrable impact in those leftists, that socialist progressive group, that if they truly understood, if they really had a context for what the LBGTQ agenda was all really about, if they really understood that most of the people they idolize are actually pedophiles and a lot of them are child killers, they would be really ripe candidates for taking back their communities.
	And I really think that that's the point they're all trying to get us to.
	I will admit that I don't really agree with the means, to be perfectly honest with you.
	But this is what I've been able to decide to sort of find some peace about.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Now, I'm not going to, I know, I think we're going quite a while and I don't want to keep you too long.
	I know you've got, you know, family responsibilities and so on.
	But if you don't mind, I'd like to go down my list of questions and I promise not to sort of start pontificating on any of these other subjects.
	Those were close to my heart.
	I wanted to really get your take on the ones we've just covered.
	So now can I ask you, If you're sort of aware of the whole Babylonian background to the monetary system and the fact that the Khazarians have been hiding behind the Jewish faith as kind of a cover and the idea that this is all pervasive in
	Ukraine, the Middle East, and that there is, I even have somebody writing to me who's saying, you know, Ukraine's going to be the next Israel.
	It's going to be part of Israel.
	You know, that's their dream.
	Because of the connection between, with, ostensibly with Jewish, the Jewish faith or whatever.
	But a lot of that is also a false cover, as you may know.
	So, am I wrong in thinking that you're sort of a student in the monetary sector?
	I thought that you actually knew, Phil, and that you also dealt with silver and that you know something about banking.
	Am I right?
	Um, just a little bit.
	Yes.
	I don't, I don't know Phil, um, and the, my silver pursuits, um, are really sort of kind of personal.
	I try to highlight the difference between that and the information that I share, but I guess to answer your question, you know, yes, this is, this issue that you're discussing is really one of the main core issues of awakening that a lot of people can achieve with, um, what I think is a less resistant state because we all sort of understand that money has been corrupt since the dawn of time.
	Um, if you will.
	So, you know, I guess, you know, answer to your question, yes, the Khazarian system, the Knights Templar going back to the Ashkenazi when they took that misnomer after the Tsars attempted to, you know, the coalition very nearly destroyed them actually.
	Yes, it's important that we understand what got us here, right?
	That area of history and understanding that lineage sort of gives us context to what our banking and loans system has always been about.
	It's always been about the end road of control, being able to move the levers of influence based on controlling the means by which value is exchanged.
	We have to redo that entire apparatus, you know, along this journey.
	I'm sure that that would take some time to roll out, but we don't really get right to the other side.
	If we've got this old system, this corrupt system of banking and loans feeding the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland, all of this blood money, we can't really move forward.
	Okay, with that in mind, I have a contact who is somebody who used to be a market maker in the stock market type thing.
	Um, and has been trained in Switzerland in the monetary area, and he also has his own contacts and also is a former member of the military of the United States.
	He tells me that the right to issue.
	Is still in the hands of what we know of as the Illuminati, the cabal bankers, and that until that gets changed, they will be in charge of our monetary system.
	And I don't see, you know, I know Charlie Ward is kind of like the money guy.
	Who talks about this stuff, but he I don't really see him addressing this.
	And I also know that the families, the primary families that control the right to issue all live in a certain sector of Basel, Switzerland, and that they are also in touch with a certain off planet group.
	Are you aware of that information?
	I was aware of the right to issue thing.
	That's one of the reasons that I've not opined a whole lot on this topic, because I believe that while we've made a lot of progress and we've brought down some of the functionality of the central banking system, certainly some of the symbolic levers in the central banking system, I still think that there's more progress that has to be made downward into the financial sector, into the business sector, into the financial, the corporate sector, the area of economy that we sort of live and deal with every day.
	And to be perfectly honest, Miss Cassidy, I think that if I was just to give some speculation, and it would just be pure speculation, the whole theme of a lot of this has been that we're allowing them to sort of self-implode, to self-destruct, to bring down their own house of cards.
	And it would not surprise me if that's being left that way on purpose.
	And regarding the off-planetary things and things of that nature, I've not personally heard of that, but I certainly don't discount it.
	There are dimensions to this war that I think most of us are not even aware of at this time, and that will floor us as we go forward into what, you know, learning what our real history has been.
	Okay, so it's kind of hard when they have had the right to issue, and even Rothschild has said that, you know, I can't do the exact quote, but something like, you know, let them do anything where they want as long as I have control of the monetary system, I could care less.
	The fact of the matter is, and this is, I'm I've been educated on this note by this person and others to say that as long as they control.
	The right to issue what is called the right to issue and that's that's actually requires a certain amount of explanation that I can't give in this discussion, but I'm going to assume the people listening who do know about that phrase and what it really means, you know, having the codes into these computers that then orchestrate where money goes and blah, blah, blah.
	This has been in their hands.
	Forever, basically, on planet Earth, as long as forever goes, you know, going back to the early days of Samaria, let's say, and probably before that.
	So, it's unlikely that they're going to implode or do themselves in, in this particular regard.
	They have been given it.
	This is what I've been told.
	They've given that right, these families in Basel, Switzerland.
	By the off-planet races, and in particular probably the Anunnaki, who still have a role here on Earth.
	And we're very instrumental in our sort of destiny in the Middle East.
	And there is a reason why the Middle East is being held to last.
	Specific Israel, if you remember the Q-drops, I'm sure you know that's being said, yeah?
	Correct.
	So, you know, I'm not saying that you know the answers to this kind of line of questioning, but I do want to highlight it.
	And I assume that you're going to be, you know, addressing it because you address, you seem to address most things that when we get down the road close to them, you tend to talk about them more.
	But I haven't really heard you talk about this.
	So I was wondering your level of knowledge in this area, and you're kind of conveying that you don't really know what I'm talking about when I talk about, you know, even the Anunnaki and off planet.
	It's a strange thing for me because I'm kind of not oriented in the financial way.
	the same source, but another source.
	It's a strange thing for me because I'm kind of not oriented in the financial way.
	I'm actually pretty dumb that way, even though I tried to study it.
	And I have these certain whistleblowers who are very high up on the food chain in the financial world.
	And And one of them has said to me that this off-planet race that decides whether Earth gets to, you know, have certain, I guess, controls, has decided that it's not time for us to be able to change the right to issue, in essence.
	That, for some reason, That I don't know, and I don't think we're being told I'm just throwing this out.
	Maybe you find it interesting.
	It doesn't even mean it's true, but it is quite interesting.
	And the person telling me this is someone who is.
	How do I say?
	Very high on that food chain, the financial pyramid, if you will, who's a secret witness.
	So with that in mind, this is what I've been told also by other financial people.
	Until the White Hats have control of the right to issue, they will always be under the thumb, if you will, of the dark lords who are in connection with these You know, Anunnaki, and so on.
	Thoughts on that?
	Well, I guess I have a lot of thoughts on that, to be perfectly honest.
	You know, again, this is mostly opinion-based, just based on research, sort of like what you've talked about.
	I've heard the name Anunnaki.
	I've not delved a whole lot into that.
	The other sentient life form segment of this whole discussion really is sort of not my expertise, but they are absolutely real.
	There are dark, there are other sentient beings who are very dark, they're very low energetic, low frequency beings that influence pretty much everything that happens here, you know, in our, in our Earth and what I believe to be our Earth.
	You know, regarding the financial things, I don't know if I'm necessarily qualified to opine a whole lot on that, but I can say that what is going on right now, economically, geopolitically, between nations, makes no sense if you're trying to preserve your way of life.
	We have Russia, one of the premier industrial powers in the world, a base for a vast number of resources exports to the worldwide markets, basically saying if you introduce a price cap, we'll simply stop selling to you.
	That means anybody that purchases oil from anyone in the Russian supply chain down the line also is cut off from that particular decision.
	So say if France is buying Russian oil, France introduces a price cap, Russia stops selling it.
	Everyone that buys oil from France now has to find a new supplier as well.
	So all of that is occurring at the same time that this special military operation is occurring in Europe.
	And we have Biden over here weighing an introduction on energy price caps and doing everything he can to essentially implode the United States energy sector.
	You know, it's it's really so bad.
	It's you have to wonder if it is by design.
	I've heard a lot of people say that it's just gross incompetence.
	I've heard people say that it's individuals behind the scenes pulling the levers that have no idea what they're doing, which would imply that Biden is sort of an installation of the dark side to save themselves after we took out their original Biden.
	I think that is possible.
	But based on the military cog situation you know it's it's difficult to marry the two.
	But regardless as, as this is going on we have bricks establishing a whole system of commerce and trade based on precious metals on reliable currency.
	We have other nations, a number of other nations, now applying for membership in BRICS.
	They're very interested in the discussion.
	Some of these nations are very powerful players in world resources, raw materials, ores.
	Saudi Arabia, a base of power for money and the financial world for a very long time, now becoming involved with the whole BRICS situation.
	China and Russia, Saudi Arabia, building an economic triad.
	And the deep state sort of pressing forward with this idea that they're going to be able to convert the economy to a CVDC controlled economy situation.
	But they're losing controls of various worldwide markets that are very important for the petrodollar, are very important for propping us up financially throughout the world.
	I think that we'll see a coming home to roost of all of that to be perfectly honest with you.
	whether it's been by design or whether it's just simple, gross negligence while the military handles other areas of the world, such as the underground tunnel systems and things of that nature.
	I hope that we'll learn in due time, but right now, all we can do is see what we observed.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	So I'm just, I'm really going through this quickly to see if there's any last questions before I let you go.
	And you've been very patient with my questions and and very forthcoming.
	So I appreciate that.
	Jim Willie says that the Rothschild central banks are depleted and they are not solvent anymore.
	Again, this question I put together before we did the interview here, and I realized that you're kind of in essence saying that you don't have a lot of knowledge in this sector, but does that ring true for you?
	In certain circumstances, yes, I believe that's the case.
	But that may not be the case worldwide just yet.
	There were 187, I think, or 184.
	I forget the exact number.
	Rothschild Banks.
	That's a lot of money.
	That's a lot of wealth.
	That's a lot of networking.
	The ability to store hidden caches, things like that.
	Things that are off books.
	We have to sort of go back and find all of this.
	Whether they're all bankrupt at this point, whether it's the entire system is bankrupt, I think is sort of out to for us to see from this point forward.
	We know that the U.S.
	corporation is bankrupt.
	We know that the Federal Reserve was backed into the Treasury around about the times that these operations in the U.S.
	began.
	So I do, I can say with a high degree of confidence that we have bankrupted that avenue of the system.
	I think we've bankrupted the Central Bank of London, and I believe our marker for that was the death of the monarch, the Queen.
	But as we move forward through the rest of the system, and remember all of these central banks trickle down to the Wall Street economies all around the world.
	We're not even to the trade markets yet.
	I think we're seeing that emerge now with what's going on in China.
	The events in China are absolutely going to influence how we sort of interact with our economic situations all around the world.
	Because we're still in this old matrix.
	We're going through the death process, but it's worth noting that we're still inside of it.
	And China has a very big effect on not only the U.S. markets, but the whole world by proxy.
	So I guess that's I know that's a long winded answer, but that's really kind of where I'm at with that one.
	OK, now there is still left the idea that another thing that Jim Willey said is that Elon Musk has Starlink, as you know, and as everyone knows, and that that's been commandeered by the White and that that's been commandeered by the White Hats to do at some point a kind of EBS, you know, broadcasting.
	Do you have any knowledge of that?
	Just from what I'm following with Elon, he seems to be dropping very powerful hints with that right around the time that all of that's occurring.
	We're seeing this narrative sort of going on Twitter and we've seen it on Twitter a couple of times in the last few months.
	Space Force has recently consolidated.
	All command authority from the or excuse me all communications authority from the United States military under one base command that process I think was initiated in August But actually concluded December of this year, so that's that's now done Elon just recently talking about Starlink being a viable Sort of immediate alternative if you will to a situation where the internet is completely taken out I think that's a hint.
	I think that the man knows much more than he's willing to say, simply because of what he's putting out there on Twitter.
	But that's really all I have to say on that.
	How we see that evolve, I think, is anybody's guess at this point.
	Okay, and this is my last question.
	You know the Brunson case, and actually recently 107 in a discussion with Nino said that he's got things on the back burner.
	They're going to appeal the justice's ruling on that case, and I'm not sure what those things are that he's going to, you know, talk about, but I'm curious if, you know, because there's, I don't know if you know who Utsava is, she's a psychic who is a Trump supporter and she's often quite correct in her predictions.
	And some of her predictions do dovetail with my own, what I call downloads or, you know, intuitive psychic information that I get.
	Before I go and see if anyone else has any of this kind of thing, I usually try to, you know, I'll get downloads and then I'll try to research to see if there's any validity.
	So, she is saying that there are not nine justices.
	Some people, I think Jim Willie was saying that there are nine justices, but they're all working remotely.
	She is saying there's one justice and it's Clarence Thomas and maybe somebody helping him or something like that.
	Um, I don't know if you've heard these rumors and, you know, have any thoughts about how many justices they are.
	Are there really 9 justices and are they still operational regardless of whether they work remotely or not?
	You know, that's a very interesting subject that I've done a bit of research on and it's just hard to find concrete things about it and it leads me to believe that it's probably because it's close to the actual continuity of government situation that's going on.
	I think it's very possible that Clarence Thomas is the only truly autonomous functioning member of the court right now.
	I think it's very possible that the other eight justices have been either detained and asked to play a part, detained and been given an investigative situation where they're going through their history and they're just making sure that they're not corrupt.
	I've heard that put out and postulated at different times.
	I know John Roberts was detained because of his involvement in child trafficking, CPS, and with the United States intelligence community.
	And that actually involved the Vice President of the United States, Mike Pence.
	So we know that that situation has gone on.
	At some level, simply because too many people that are very very good at research and some that are closely connected to these sorts of things, much more connected than I am coming out and telling us that you know some of this is true.
	I can't say for certain on that particular issue, but based on the actions of the court over the last 18 months, very much sounds like a Clarence Thomas style court, if you will.
	It's sort of a constitutional plain text.
	There have been interpretations sort of against the conservative side.
	I think that's to maintain the balance, the objectivity, the image of the institution itself, because we have to live with these institutions going forward.
	A lot of people think that we're going to get to the other side of this.
	We're going to roll out Nisera and everything's just going to completely change and the federal government will just cease to exist.
	That's not possible.
	It can't go at that pace with the consciousness of the United States and really for the rest of the world.
	This has to be sort of an original process, an organic coming into it of our own, if you will.
	So in regards to what Utsav was saying, I think that's extremely possible.
	I just can't say that it's for certain or not.
	Okay, very good answer.
	All right, so at this point, I guess I've been keeping you a very long time and I really appreciate your patience and always your calmness, your clarity, your willingness to answer the questions honestly and to go into detail as well.
	So, any parting words for my audience?
	Continue to do your own research and really be involved in this process.
	This awakening, you know, this is something that I haven't necessarily stressed a lot and really it's to my fault on this particular topic.
	We were discussing the physical and spiritual worlds earlier.
	Sometimes I don't highlight enough that there is a blending.
	They are one.
	I agree, you know, categorically with that statement.
	This awakening process is about finding where your inspiration leads, but then once you find it, you have to move into action and actually do it.
	If you're led to research a specific topic or seek information on how to get involved, or maybe that, you know, you want to run for a local office or things like that, move into that action, come out of that programming that sort of keeps us inert because that's how they've kept us dumbed down and sort of, you know, dumb and stupid, if you will.
	Um, and it's really important to break that consciously.
	You know, this is a conscious process, but we'll all get there together.
	Okay.
	And, uh, I want to thank you for your service to humanity and, uh, thank you very much for coming on the show.
	Thank you, Ms.
	Cassidy.
	I hope you'll have me back sometime.
	Absolutely.
	Open invitation.
	All right.
	Thank you everyone.
	And have a good night.

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