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Aug. 21, 2022 - Project Camelot
02:10:52
KERRY INTERVIEWED BY PATRIOT UNDERGROUND: WE ARE AT WAR
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Well, hello everyone and welcome to Patriot Underground.
Today is August 20th, 2022.
Thank you so much for joining me to discover the truth beneath the surface.
As always, I appreciate everybody out there in the audience taking the time to listen.
So tonight, it is my pleasure once again to welcome Kerry Cassidy back to the show.
I believe this is our fourth conversation and it's always an honor.
And I'm incredibly interested to hear your take on a whole wide range of issues and the latest developments.
But I really wanted to start tonight in light of the recent attacks on 107 that have gotten a lot of attention.
I know you've responded to these.
We don't have to beat a dead horse, as they say.
You've made your position pretty clear.
But I was really more curious about the larger topic of Patriot infiltration, or infiltration in the Patriot movement.
There's been a lot of discussion because, of course, we've seen a lot of people getting attacked.
You yourself, in fact, recently experienced that.
So I'm sure, and I can imagine with almost, well, over 17 years, that was not your first time, you know, experiencing something along those lines.
So I can only imagine that you have a lot of experience and insight into what that's like navigating through that.
And I think a lot of folks out there Who, including myself, who deeply believe in Juan and his intel, you know, these types of scenarios, when they do pop up, that question the credibility of people that we consider to be leaders, people that we put our trust in.
It definitely has an effect on the Patriot community.
And really the question is, well, what is that effect?
How do we navigate through that effect?
It was very interesting because, as I'm sure you did, I listened to Nino's conversation with Juan, you know, As in the aftermath of the interview that you know we're referring to uh and he had some very interesting things to say but in essence his take on it seemed to be that you know he's fine allowing sort of the court of public opinion to play out and more or less to let history play out and to see In the long run, who's really telling the truth?
In other words, he's really confident about the information that he's putting out, so he's really not concerned about any disinformation, even if it's involving him.
However, the one concern he does have and did express was that a lot of people are, Just coming out of their coma and they're just starting to kind of get their sea legs and start to figure out what's going on and start to ask questions and start to seek out alternative information and that I think is really a big area where If people are infiltrating in the movement, and I'm not going to put words in your mouth, I certainly believe that that's going on, that would be someplace that they would want to target.
People who are new, who are more easy to manipulate, who don't have a wider foundation of knowledge that obviously you've gained over your years.
So it's much easier for you to apply your discernment than it is necessarily for somebody who's newly awakened.
This could be drawing a lot of people in the wrong direction.
So I was just curious to get your thoughts on that.
We could start there and see where we go.
So welcome back.
Okay, yeah, nice to talk to you again, Patriot.
So, yeah, okay, so I have an article that I just put out, which I don't know how people are reacting to it.
Some people briefly have texted me, but I haven't actually seen the comments, so I can't say how it's been received.
In this article, let me I'm just going to put that on the on the here on the screen just so people can see what we're talking about.
and understand that i've written a it's actually a set now of three articles um and they all have to to do with what we call cog or uh cog or continuity of government and uh i i'm gonna answer your question don't worry but what i wanted to do was to uh actually
talk about uh the the what's going on in the patriot movement today we had uh on before it's news i don't know where else it was i posted it on my telegram uh and then i wrote a bunch of stuff on my i which i'm i i tend to do so that if you do follow my telegram you do get my first reaction to things where i i i make comments and and it's really right off the top of my head so it's kind of fun and it's kind of um
It can be entertaining.
It's very entertaining, I agree.
Sometimes I make jokes even, you know, and stuff like that.
And sometimes I'm sarcastic, whatever.
So this article that I've written is all in keeping with what's happening within the White Hats, within the so-called The war, you might say, the war on the ground that we're experiencing, how it's escalating.
And my particular interest is in finding out what's really going on.
And I find that most people out there don't seem to know.
And that's by design.
Obviously, you know, we're dealing with the Illuminati, who are a secret organization, you know, from day one, going back really eons.
Running the Earth.
And then they have an even more secret division behind them is the ET, you know, alien visitation, whatever you want to call it, side of it, which I don't shy away from, but most people do.
So it's kind of like a layer cake almost of bands of things that are going on.
What they really mean, what they're, what they're sold, you know, what they try to sell you on, of course, the mainstream news.
But even now, the alternative news is also they're doing their own spin, okay, depending on who they are and what their agenda is.
And that's a very important distinction is figuring out who has an agenda, why they have an agenda, what's motivating them, who are they working for?
And that sort of thing.
And it's not always obvious, and maybe you can't even in the end know for sure, but you can certainly start to delineate out You know, whether somebody is well-intentioned, whether they have sort of a dark side, and whether they're attacking others in public, and all that sort of thing.
So, I interviewed Kim Gauguin at least two times, and maybe even three.
It's been a while, you know, I haven't interviewed her recently, but it's, you know, over the last, I don't, I think probably two years.
And that was purposeful.
I wanted to interview her.
She had a platform.
She was coming forward with a lot of interesting information that I didn't agree with.
But see, a lot of people don't realize I don't have to agree with somebody to want to interview them.
In fact, if I don't agree, sometimes that is motivating me to interview them because I want to learn more.
I want to see where their head's really at, and if I can, through sort of a patient questioning process that I have, I tend to expose people who have weaknesses and have not really done their homework, so to speak.
So, there's so much that I almost don't know where to start.
Well, if you want to go into your COG article, I mean, I know that folks are fascinated to hear about that.
We can, you know, we can segue back to that.
The issue of infiltration, we don't really have to focus.
I want to answer your first question, though, because we're talking about the Patriot movement.
We're talking about Well, specifically that, strangely, I don't know if they're in coots together or how you would classify it, but maybe it's the person who posted it on Before It's News who said, you know, David Icke and Alex Jones and someone else, I can't pronounce their name, It's an article front and center on DeForest News.
I think it's getting a lot of coverage.
David Icke is speaking.
He's the only one speaking in this particular video.
There are several videos there on the same page.
And like I said, I posted it on my Telegram channel if you want to go over there and take a look if you haven't seen it.
But really attacking Trump, really trying to, I don't know, lay it on the line or whatever.
And, uh, I am naming their names because they were so front and center in, at least in the title.
And it does appear they had a clip from Alex, um, kind of, uh, attacking Trump.
And then they had, like I said, this video where David is really, um, kind of getting into it and doing it fairly patiently.
Um, talking kind of slowly, but laying it out so that people will understand where he's coming from.
His information has been out there, okay?
So all of us, you know, and when I say us, I'm talking about colleagues.
I think even back in 2016 would have done this kind of research where you get the background of Trump, you get who he's been working with, people like Cohen and Adelson and others, okay, that David mentions.
All that stuff is out there on the web.
And you can come across it on your own by doing research.
Also him getting in debt to those individuals, one in particular, I guess, and various things.
This is not surprising to me in any way shape or form.
Trump is not, how do you say this, you know, in a loose sense of the word, he's damaged goods, okay?
He comes the way a lot of my whistleblowers come, to me at least, he comes forward as a person who has been Raised in the deep state, okay?
Raised by Illuminati families.
Even his, you know, his uncle's connection with Tesla and so on and so forth.
So, there's no doubt that he's been definitely immersed in that world.
Just as, and we're going to get to this, John F. Kennedy Jr.
was.
He grew up in the deep state, you know?
His father was murdered by the deep state.
And this is how it goes and other family members as well.
So let's not take that lightly.
Let's understand that you can be raised by the deep state.
You can be immersed in it.
You can be just like you.
I'm soon to be interviewing someone who grew up as I don't know what you call this, but, you know, being sort of the toy of the pedophiles, okay?
So, you want to blame those individuals for coming from the dark side, and then trying to come over to the light.
Okay, I don't think that's the right approach.
I think you need to have a wider, deeper understanding of what's really going on here on planet Earth.
And when you attack somebody and say, Well, for example, in Trump's case, this is very widely known.
Why is he backed the Vax?
It seems not only illogical, but definite political suicide in the end.
And that doesn't mean in the beginning, but in the end, it will come back to bite him.
And he would have known this.
His whole team would have known this.
Everyone around him would know that.
This was a deep state agenda.
This rollout of the transhuman agenda is totally Planned for years and years and years in advance.
So what you have is again, and I've told this story more than once, but I'm going to do it again.
And I hope, you know, people will understand why it's so important, but.
I am rather unusual in the sense that I dealt with the white hats before they, you know, brought out Q and before they became public connected to Trump and, and JFK Jr.
And, and so on.
So, because I was already working with White Hats, because there is an organization who put out these, what they're called, the White Hat Reports.
If you don't know about it, it's very good to do research and find out about it.
You can even go on my site.
I did a big report for them called, um, Follow the Money, Black Projects Follow the Money.
And, uh, and, and, you know, I, I spent a lot of time on that particular report explaining Where the money goes in black projects, how it goes into underground bases, what some of those prospective black projects could be, above Top Secret, etc.
So, if you understand on a deeper level that when John F. Kennedy was killed, he was killed, the White Hats were formed.
Now, they could have been formed before that, okay?
I don't know the exact chronology, but I do know That they had, I think they use Q because Q Clearance is one of the top clearances above Top Secret.
So that's probably why they chose Q. There's also a Q around John F. Kennedy's grave.
Everyone knows that.
And so this became their symbol, but what they decided to do was to become a secret society on the good side to try to save not only in the United States, but the world from the direction that it was headed for, which was, you know, fascism, CCP, communism.
Take over taking over the United States taking down the United States.
This has been the agenda since I started working in this field, which is over 17 years ago.
We were told by whistleblowers.
The, you know, the deep state, the Illuminati, however you want to refer to them, you know, the 13 families and, and the corporations behind that and so on and so forth.
And the ETs behind that.
The whole idea is transhumanism.
The whole idea was to take over the earth.
The whole idea was to basically re constitute the earth and humans to their liking.
And there's a very famous old report called the Iron Mountain Report which delineates from years ago what they planned.
Okay?
So we knew this.
We also had a very excellent whistleblower in the very early days of Camelot called Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann.
Who laid out everything that's happening now and basically said, it's going to be this, this, this, this, this, this.
He just gave us a list of all the things that they would do.
And that definitely included, you know, um, diseases.
In other words, suddenly we would have outbreaks of everything under the sun and they would plan this stuff and they plan the war with China.
And that's what's going to happen next.
You know, these were their plans.
Okay.
So the white hats getting back to them.
Realized with the death of Kennedy that not only did they have to be secret, super secret, they had to develop a, you know, a tactic.
They had to have a scenario in which they would come in and turn this thing around, come into power.
And this is where the friendship between John F. Kennedy Jr., the editor eventually of George magazine, who they did try to kill, They didn't succeed.
And I've done interviews on this subject with people who have done investigations.
There's a tremendous amount of information out there.
You can do your own homework on this.
Explaining how he was a, you know, they tried to say he wasn't a good pilot.
He was an excellent pilot.
And that he had a meeting with Hillary just before he went on this plane to Martha's Vineyard.
And he was basically planning to run for office, I think.
For Senate.
I think it was the Senate.
Anyway, and that she told him something at the meeting.
The reporters that reported the meeting said he walked away looking white in the face.
That's how they described it.
Now, maybe that was just drama because after that he was killed, but who knows?
Okay, so we're talking about a deep story in which Trump and JFK Jr.
We're known to be friends, and there's a very interesting link up there because that could be a historical relationship that over time changes the world, okay?
Now, why?
Because Trump had lots of money.
Even when he was in debt, he had money, and he had access to money.
And John F. Kennedy Jr.
certainly has access to money, and it's only increased over the years, okay?
So, are you going to accuse them of having money?
That's like a bad thing.
Everyone wants money.
You know, it's a good thing to have money, actually.
It's just that, you know, people get jealous and all this kind of stupid shit.
Okay.
If a good man has money, then he can do more good things.
Hello?
All right.
So then you have to decide, is Trump a good man?
Was he a bad man when he started?
Some people would say yes.
maybe his his wife that i think they killed her but maybe that was a fake death and maybe she'll come back uh ivana trump maybe she would say he was you know a very mixed character good bad he's very mercurial mercurial he is able to be a showman par excellence
If you study the cue messages then you understand that when he's on stage he can say something one way and he can use body language to actually cancel out what he just told you and cue also gives you Tips and says contradictory things at times, but then tells you the real truth.
So it's it's a house of cards, obviously.
But what we're talking about is whether or not you want to, you know, sort of take this and understand it as as a deep story that does involve what we're called White Hats.
Now, you can't say they don't exist because they have a website.
It's called the White Hat Reports, I believe, dot com.
It's linked on my page if you find my presentation.
I've interviewed one of the major white hats at the time, who was a forensic financial investigator, Paladin, numerous times, and he did his own broadcasts.
So he's just one of them.
And, you know, Trump is one of them.
The Q team is our white hats.
So these people actually did get together.
It was made up of current and ex-intelligence agency people around the world.
Current and, you know, and current and ex-military people, people in authority positions, police, things like this, investigators, even probably members of the FBI could easily be members of the White Hats.
Secretly, you won't know they're members.
So this is what we have, okay?
And like I say, the evidence is out there.
Not just me saying they exist, but they exist.
Now, when they became public under Q and with this sort of advent of 107, this individual who gradually came forward first, I think, with Field McConnell, as I recall, many years ago, actually, started to be a kind of a quiet guest that would occasionally give intel.
And then he started to come, he really came forward beginning with the whole Q Trump thing.
So you can go back years and get testimony from this individual 107.
Wano Savin.
Now, I have met Wano Savin in In person.
A group of us alternative journalists were invited to an event back in February of 2020.
Let's see.
So February of 2020 or 2021.
Let's see.
So February of 2020 or 2021.
I guess 2020, I think.
I don't know.
I get my dates mixed up because so much has happened, and my head is just full of stuff.
I think that meeting you're referring to was probably 2021, because I remember hearing about it at the time.
This was before I even started a podcast, but I think it was.
Okay, but it was definitely in February, and so we went to this meeting.
It was supposed to be a screening.
And a rollout of this movie, I think it's called Sound of Freedom?
Yeah, Sound of Freedom, right.
Yeah, and it's about the whole child trafficking, human trafficking.
You know, basically this horrible, I don't know what you want to call it, epidemic of what we call adrenochrome, the adrenochrome highway, that's what I call it, the use of humans and their
bodily fluids and killing them for pleasure and uh and in sexual ways uh etc etc and has become much more well known especially attached to hollywood but epstein island is and and that whole thing so one of the ways in which john
John jr and trump connected is over getting rid of this okay and one of the first things that trump did when he got into office was to sign an executive order with regard to getting rid of the pedophiles and the child trafficking and stopping all of that so they were in you can say there were certain Like with friends, there were certain things that they were totally in agreement on that they wanted to see stopped.
And apparently, they put together a plan to do just that.
Now, you may not like their plan, you may not believe their plan, you may not think it's working because you don't see the evidence, blah, blah, blah.
But the reality is that whatever you think about it, People are waking up as by virtue of some of these things that have been rolled out that the Illuminati had in their grab bag of stuff, like I said, that we knew about 17 years ago.
And like dominoes, they've been falling, okay?
One of the last dominoes will be the sort of great reset, if they do that.
The, you know, alternative media likes to think of Jisar and Nasara along those lines.
And maybe the real future of all of that, I've interviewed so many people about this and talked to so many people behind the scenes, top financial people that are not only in the Illuminati, but also Obviously in the alternative world, etc.
And I can tell you that no one agrees on any of it.
So it's really difficult.
I did interview Paladin, the White Hat, who's a financial expert working with the White Hats to create a system That is based on blockchain, at least at that time he was.
And this is a few years ago now, because after those interviews, Paladin eventually went to ground.
He has disappeared off the scene.
He's there, I'm in loose contact with him, very vaguely through texting him every great once in a while, but he doesn't want to come forward.
I think part of it is that the White Hats have been under sort of mandatory secrecy or order that it covers, even covers talking to me.
So, and that's been going on now for at least a year and maybe longer.
Uh, I did interview Juan 07.
A lot of people said, well, where's his interview with you?
It's on my website.
All you have to do is just go to the front page, projectcamelotportal.com.
And in the search, the search is very prominent on the right hand side, just type in his last name for that matter.
And you'll, you should end up on the interview or his first name.
Cause there's, I don't interview that many people named Juan.
Okay and I have I've done lots of the interviews even with you Patriot about you know the whole disclosure with regard to the disguises that John F. Kennedy Jr.
wears and one of them is a 107 or actually a couple of them are and that there's a sidekick and his name is Wayne Willett or he goes by that name And he actually, I believe, he might have worked in the FBI in the early days, but definitely CIA.
What he does now, I don't know, other than back up John F. Kennedy Jr.
and work with him.
And, uh, I'm a pre-cog.
I have dreams of the future that come true.
They are quite reliable in that way, many of them, but I don't make a big deal of it.
I don't go out and say, oh, this is going to happen for sure, because I never know for sure if it's going to happen.
And, um, but they do happen.
So I've had lots and lots of dreams of Definitely JFK Jr.
as 107, knowing he is doing a whole disguise, a la Eddie Murphy or Tom, whatever his name is, Tom, you know who I mean.
The actor in Mission Impossible.
Oh, Cruz, I mean.
Yeah, Tom Cruz.
You know, with these face masks that definitely are hard to tell who the person is, etc.
So, at the February meeting, 107 was in heavy disguise.
And I have a photo of that with me in it, okay, that I'm not allowed to put onto the web.
And everyone who had that photo is told not to put on the web.
Really?
Is that by Juan himself?
By Juan himself and Juan is adamant about that because that particular photo I'm not going to say anything about it other than to say that it shows you that, well, since he came out at the Patriot Underground, uh, under, um, the Patriot Double Down.
Right.
When he came out, okay, so, met him in February, then in October of the same year, which was 2021 now, I know, because this is, like, almost a year.
Right.
And from there, 22.
Anyway, I knew it wasn't pre-COVID.
That's how I knew it wasn't.
Yes.
Okay.
And COVID has really screwed with my head as far as timeline.
But anyway, so what happens is, so he did these, these were two meetings.
Two events and the second one he actually went on stage was photographed many times.
I have a whole spread on that on my website.
I've linked it on my telegram many times.
I have a photo sort of montage of him how he looks and so on.
So It's just to have you understand, then, what happened in February was... Wait, so that specific photo, it shows a little bit too much.
That's about all you can say about it?
Oh, the one taken in February, okay?
So the disguise in February is not the same disguise as when he went on stage as 107 in October.
And that may be the reason he doesn't want it out there, okay?
Meaning that the 107 disguise, he may have multiple disguises.
And if you don't know this, if you haven't ever read a biography or autobiography of John F. Kennedy Jr., he's a wonderful actor.
He loved wearing disguises.
He used to fake out all the press when they used to chase him when he was a young guy.
And so on and so forth.
He also grew up with a secret service.
He grew up in this world of intrigue, you know, where his father was killed.
And when he took over, when he started George magazine, right before he died, he had hired an investigative reporter, quite a famous one, whose name escapes me at the moment.
But you can read about it.
And he was going to investigate his father's death and bring forward the fact that George Bush Sr.
was instrumental in the death of his father, among other things.
So it's interesting that that's when they tried to kill him.
Okay, it's not a coincidence.
Now, Since he's still alive, he's been behind the scenes.
He's done a lot of things apparently and gotten quite involved in the military from what I understand.
And anyway, let me pull up this montage, uh, so I can, and you know, I, if I jump around and you want to go back, I don't mind, you know, cause I, I, I do tend to have so much stuff that I, I might tend to jump around.
Oh, that's fine.
No worries.
Getting muted, that's very weird.
Okay, now I can hear you.
You're good now.
All right, so here, I'm going to bring this forward, and I didn't really say anything while I was muted.
Anyway, so take a look at this, and you can see that I tried to grab some photographs that aren't so common of John Jr., and this, if you can see in the hat, this is from the Patriot, the double down, okay?
And Here's a close-up of him from the side, and you can't see it, but all these photos are on the web.
You can just do a search, and they're also on my website.
So here's he saluting, here's Trump, and so on and so forth.
You get an idea from all the photographs that there was a good relationship between John Jr.
and Trump.
And they were quite young, even back in those days.
And so now we're talking I don't know, 20 years later at least.
So they've been friends for God knows how long.
Um, and this is partly why I wrote my article, but it's not the only reason.
So I will explain, I want to explain all about the background of the article that I wrote.
Um, but I, okay.
So when I started this, I was trying to explain how Alex Jones and the reason they're, they're missing.
The bottom line is that you have to look at the context in which an individual operates.
Trump for not telling the truth, okay, and for not being who he's supposed to be or whatever it is.
So what I want to explain about that, and I wrote this on my telegram, but I'll sort of paraphrase it.
The bottom line is that you have to look at the context in which an individual operates.
So in our society, right now people are waking up, but I can tell you that when we started 17 years ago, when we said, we told people we were interviewing whistleblowers, people would say, what's a whistleblower?
And the only way they even understood whistleblower was in the context of a company like, you know, the cigarette company, because there was that movie with the famous actor who came forward and blew the whistle in the company about, you know, the fact that they can harm, they're harmful to your health, whatever.
So, Whistleblowers is kind of almost, Project Camelot almost kind of like made that a household name, if you will, from the day we started.
Because that was our plan, was to interview whistleblowers from above top secret.
And so that's what we set out to do, which is kind of a strange thing to do in a way, right?
It's a bold mission.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Back in those days.
Okay.
Now we hit the scene at the exact right time to get to the whistleblowers.
Let me say that because whistleblowers that come forward now, a lot of them are a lot.
Okay.
My lighting went out.
I'll fix it.
But anyway, So, a lot of them are a lot more sort of schooled and corralled, and ever since Snowden and Julian Assange were made examples of, they were whistleblowers also.
And in fact, Julian Assange used to follow our work.
I don't know about Snowden, but I can tell you that he tried to contact us.
I think we found out later or something.
That Assange or Snowden tried to contact you?
Assange.
So what happens is, yeah, so and this is a long time ago, very long time ago.
So what I'm trying to say is that that was our job.
So we got involved and put the word out that that's what we wanted to do and Whistleblowers came to us and for some reason we hit the scene at the exact right moment when a lot of older men because a lot of them are men.
They're not all there are some women.
Much fewer women.
And most of them, by the way, are also Americans.
There have been more whistleblowers coming from other countries now.
But back in those days, at least the ones that came to us, were predominantly men and predominantly had worked in above top secret in our country.
You know, in black projects.
And so we're talking scientists, engineers, former military, even current military.
Some people contacting us who still worked for the military.
Some people contacted us who had been retired and put out to pasture, as I call it.
For like, you know, they worked for the military their whole life for like 40 years and all of a sudden the military sort of dumps them out there and says, you know, we don't need you anymore.
And what happens with a lot of these people is they have been programmed to, you know, lie and so on.
But the programming breaks down and we found out as we interviewed more and more super soldiers as well.
That it happens around the age of 50.
So these older men had memories coming back and they started to be appalled.
by realizing that humans had a right to know the truth about what was happening here on earth and that and they began to grow a conscience at this late date in their life and maybe because they were close closer to death okay so i have numerous interviews with whistleblowers from above top secret who had just that kind of dilemma and maybe they're
family you know because when they sign these security oaths they're actually told that they could be killed their family could be killed etc if they break the oath so it's not a superficial thing and the the deep state also if you are born with an illuminati bloodline and you turn against them they have a special
way of punishing those people and doing horrible deaths to them and doing a horrible sequence of deaths like they'll kill your wife or they'll you know they'll kill your kid which happened to a lot of my whistleblowers okay And I've tried to tell people when that was the case, and so on and so forth.
So, I'm painting a picture here, so you begin to understand.
I've been immersed in this world for 17 years, and even before that, I was always fascinated.
I was trained as a journalist.
I was trained to investigate things, and I always had that mind, that kind of mind, since I was a little kid.
I always wanted to know why, and I never believed people telling me things, and I had quite a good psychic ability that has served me well over the years, to where I could tell when people were lying to me, etc.
And that continues to this day.
So, now, I want to tell you what prompted this article that I'm talking about, this COG article, and what it was, was Kim Gauguin, Who has this channel, I forget the name of the channel, but she apparently went out and made a video.
Now, this is not the first time she attacked Juan.
Actually, she, I guess, was building up to it because she, in a prior video or two, she had attacked him in those.
But she was actually, a lot of times her information is wrong.
Now, I actually, as I say, have interviewed her two or three times.
I've also sort of formed a A friendship would probably be too much to say, but I like her as a person.
I don't think she's a bad person, but I do think she's handled by bad people.
And I do think she either She doesn't do her homework or believes that she's working for the good people.
So do you think she's mind-controlled?
Is that too much of a stretch?
I think perhaps when she was young she was, because she seems to have gaps in her understanding and her memory of the overall story that I'm telling you.
I don't want to get into her psychology so much as to explain that.
So she put herself out here in this way to attack Juan and a very prominent way with this sort of sidekick, Sonny, on a recent video, very recent.
It may have only been released this week.
And so when that video came out and I had had occasional conversations with her, because you got to understand that What I do is fairly unusual and I have contacts everywhere and I don't throw somebody under the bus because they have a dark past.
understanding that because the people that I all the people I interview have dark pasts and some of them like Bob Lazar have come forward and I never got to interview him unfortunately because he won't do an interview with me but He's heavily, you know, controlled at this point.
He has gone, you know, he's come out, then he's gone back into work for them, then he's come out again, then he's gone back to work for them several times.
And this is a syndrome with whistleblowers, by the way.
Some of them come forward, work in the light, and stay in the light, and some of them fluctuate, all right?
And even Henry Deacon, he went to ground.
He also got more control.
They get threatened when they come forward.
And then he tried to give us some disinfo along the line as well.
And I have another whistleblower like that.
In other words, this is not a black and white world.
It's shades of gray.
And anyone who doesn't know that doesn't know what they're talking about.
So you can't say, oh Trump lied and not understand that he's under threat, okay?
There's no way that in 2016, even with the consciousness that was out there, see it's really the people's fault.
The people Don't know and their unknowingness their love for their doctors and their hospitals and their horrible mainstream medical treatments they it's it's you know, it's just it's been an epidemic of medical tyranny and Big Pharma Completely running these people's lives and most of them are older.
That's at least my take on it I'm Not that young, but I am still younger than most of these people, okay, that are what we call, you know, those old school Republican types that are brought up, and I was brought up in a completely unusual way, so I never fit those molds.
I'm not even a conventional Christian, although I believe in Christ and Christ consciousness.
So, you have to understand the package of if you want to run for an office, what are you facing?
You're facing a two-party system that's heavily controlled and has been infiltrated.
We've had fake, stolen elections forever.
Even Kennedy got in through a stolen election.
This atmosphere is what Trump had to enter The field in order to run.
And so he had to make deals.
That's obvious.
And one of the biggest deals with the devil, as I call it, at least on my telegram, is making this deal to back COVID, okay, and the bullshit vaxes, which are killing people.
He did do a few times he made sort of signs and if you were careful and you saw them you knew that he wasn't completely there.
But the good thing about this duo, which is, and if you don't admit that there's such a duo, well, I've got, you know, I could spend several hours explaining the truth behind it because I really, okay, let me say this.
I have had phone conversations in fair amount of depth, even yelling fights with John F. Kennedy Jr.
And I know his personality.
I understand his personality.
And he strangely, I don't know, this is bizarre, but he looks like my father.
Okay?
So, you know, I kind of knew his type of person.
And I just New.
Anyway, so even when I first met the First One version, which I still to this day don't know if it was John in a deeper disguise or the Wayne Willett in a disguise, but it was supposed to be John.
But the trouble was that I shook his hand and I said hello to him and immediately there was something wrong with his face.
That's all I knew.
And this was at the February meeting, the very first time I met him.
And the photograph of me with him in it, he was speaking to us as a group.
And I'm sitting kind of close to where he's speaking, so I got caught in the photograph.
And I'm going like this, because I'm really trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with his face.
He's wearing a mask, obviously.
So I was having trouble, like I don't know if you want to call that a cognitive dissonance or what, but I'm very psychic and I just knew something was wrong with his face, okay?
Now you can't say that to somebody normally and I didn't say it to anybody then, but I just knew it and I think I went home after the three days or whatever it was and told a friend of mine, but other than that I didn't publish it or say anything.
So, that's just to say that I wasn't wrong.
There was something wrong with his face.
He had a mask on.
Okay, now I, again, this is the thing.
He has several disguises.
We have I have had another kind of person who kind of got on this kick with me, and we did some investigation and got some added information, okay?
On top of the fact that John Jr.
has actually admitted to me on the phone that he's him, okay?
So you don't have to believe me, I don't give a shit, whatever.
So, but what I did- I don't think I've ever heard you say that, actually.
I have, but people don't hear me, and so I try to, you know, I'm trying to be really clear, because my article, you've got to understand.
You're saying he admitted to you his identity on the phone?
Yes.
Yeah.
Wow, okay.
And I call him John.
I call him John.
I mean, you know, what can I say?
It's crazy, okay?
Like, I don't even understand it, you know, totally.
We had a rapport, okay?
A very easy rapport.
And we talked about journalistic problems and questions and issues and all this kind of stuff.
So, okay.
So, to get back to my article, this is why it matters, alright?
So, what is wonderful is that this guy, Patel Patriot, did a great deal of investigation on what is called COG.
Continuity of government.
Now, if your government is taken over, if American government is taken over, they have had this... really, COG has been sort of secret in the aisles of, you know, the secret world of government, you know, of people in the known government.
COG is not referred to except by those in the know, okay?
It's not commonly known.
Now it is because Patel of Patriot did a great deal of investigation around it.
But just so you kind of like get what I'm saying here.
And I know there are a few other journalists that have picked up on this.
It's very important.
I mean, it couldn't be.
This idea, this concept of continuity of government, when your government has been invaded, you've had an election that was stolen and it was stolen through not just, you know, these mailbox things, you know, but from foreign powers, the Vatican satellite.
the safe house in germany the you know the ccp the mi6 and you know 107 Bless his heart, has had the courage to come forward and be like the only spokesperson, pretty much, from the Trump Q White Hats group that has told the truth, okay, about who they are, about what they're doing, about their intentions.
Now there are videos out there, there's a MAGA movement, all of these concepts have been picked up and people have run with them.
But it's very important to understand that, contrary to what Kim said on one of her broadcasts, he didn't assign himself this task, okay?
He was obviously the person who, if you understand his profile, I mean, that since he was a kid, he was groomed to run for politics, to be in the political arena.
It's in his blood.
And basically, Being, you know, having to disappear and wear all the disguises and hide for many, many, many years, during which he had several kids with Carolyn, you know, it must have been really hard for him because he drives these flashy cars.
So, you know, why do you want to penalize him?
Because he's rich, okay?
He's a good guy, rich guy, okay?
Like his father.
So, He drives these red flashy cars, even in this picture.
You can see this picture was taken when he was at the curb by someone who got a great angle on his face.
And this is probably when he was leaving the Double Down, I would imagine.
But he was, you know, great smile, the whole thing.
And looks remarkably close to John Jr.
pictures when he was younger.
In this photo, however, he has puffed out his cheeks if you know anything about, you know, disguises and all this and it's the craft is very Detailed and extensive this whole disguise craft.
It's amazing and he has been disguised I have a whole nother montage that shows him as a secret service agent He's been on air photographed on air force one in a uniform I mean he you know, he has been in various disguises.
Okay throughout the the years and Some of those got leaked out maybe purposefully and he does play this game of kind of sort of Telling you who he is in plain sight.
And there's multiple, I mean just multiple, incidents of this.
Even recently, in an interview Nino did with him, I think it was, he, Nino said, I think it was Nino, you know, are you JFK Jr.? ?
Big pause.
Now, you have to know from listening to Juan do interview after interview, and they're not really interviews.
He just basically, you know, waxes eloquent on any subject he decides to touch on that day.
He doesn't hesitate when he talks.
I mean, he has, you know, he says things like, um, or, you know, that kind of stuff.
But when asked a question, he launches into the answer right away.
Big silence.
It's like so huge, if you are a constant listener to him, you know right away something's up.
Then he answers it by not answering the question, by saying we're all kids by the side of the road, blah blah blah.
But he never ever has denied being John F. Kennedy Jr., okay?
He's never said he was him.
etc.
All right?
And even on my show when I interviewed him, and this is over a year ago, I asked him, I said, when he first got on the show with me, I said, do you want me to call you John?
Do you want me to call you Juan?
Do you want me to call you, you know, cause I was going down and playing a game with him.
And cause I, even then I thought I knew he was John Jr.
Okay.
I knew psychically for a couple of years that he was alive and all that kind of stuff way before any of this happened.
So, and he said, no, I prefer to go by Juan.
That's it.
So that was the beginning of my interview with him.
After the interview, he told me he will never do another interview with me because it was too, you know, times were too desperate that we were in a war and he couldn't afford to make a mistake.
And I've been told this by many people.
I've heard Gene Decode says the same thing.
I have a way.
Especially after 17 years of interviewing individuals who don't always want to tell you the truth.
I have a way of getting people to talk and also getting them to tell the truth, even before they know what they're doing.
It's just talent.
Well, let me ask you this, Carrie.
I just want to jump in because it kind of, you know, it's on this subject, but it also in a sense kind of dovetails to the earlier topics we were talking about.
So, I mean, clearly you're very passionate about your viewpoint.
And certainly on this topic of 107 year, you know, you've been very upfront and prominent about, you know, this is really what you believe and you've presented a whole bunch of evidence.
So.
You know, and I've noticed that when there are other individuals who are putting out a different narrative, even one that you adamantly disagree with, to your credit, you seem to interpret that most often, in my view, as a lack of information on their part or not doing their homework, as opposed to perhaps having a nefarious motive.
So I guess that, for me, it raises the question, without getting into specific individuals or You know, painting a target on anyone's back by naming names.
Do you think that there are individuals out there who are intentionally trying to put out disinformation in order to derail the movement, you know, with bad motives, shall we say?
Absolutely.
In fact, even people that don't know what, you know, it's kind of like, I don't know, you could even call it a kind of a Christ-like attitude about these people.
is that they know not what they do okay so maybe that's kind of an overlay that i have when i approach people that have worked on the dark side or come from the dark side etc etc or for example kim she she is in this attack on one she is clearly putting out disinfo When I talk to her, even offline, I get the impression she kind of doesn't know the real truth.
She has been told by her handlers certain things and she takes it at face value.
That's the way it sounds to me.
But she may also have a deeper motive, which I don't know what it is, I don't imagine she's ever admitted to having handlers.
That's something that you assume?
Well, she tells me, yes, I think I can say this.
She told me very openly.
She works with DARPA and the generals.
That's what she says.
Those are her handlers.
I mean, you know, now she'll say no, they're not her handlers, that she, you know, whatever.
Because she talks about working with an off-planet, you know, council, etc.
Well, you know what?
I'm Pleiadian.
I work with an off-planet council as well.
How's that?
Is that good enough for you?
You know, anyone could say that.
Anyone.
Because we all do.
This is the weird thing, is that we are all From off-planet.
We are all here on a mission.
We are all connected with races off-planet.
Nobody is an exception in this way.
Alright?
So... Are you talking about all people out there in general, or are you talking about people in the Patriot movement?
Yeah, I'm talking about humans.
I'm talking about humans, okay?
Got you.
Humans.
We are them.
They are us.
We have been, in many incarnations, some here on Earth, Some off the planet, some as various races of beings, etc, etc.
And the list goes on.
So you can't, again, this is how I see the world.
So I don't just, you know, I'm a little different than other people in the sense that it's not like some adopted learned knowledge.
I mean, I learned it, but I came to the planet with this sort of attitude and with this inner knowing, okay?
Since I was a kid.
And I was also born in Moffett Field Hospital.
I believe I was messed with.
I have this strange birthmark on my shoulder because of it, you know, before I was born.
And it was a military hospital that I was born in, Moffett Field.
And I found out through interviewing a guy named Norm Bergrum who had worked in underground in Moffett Field and Black Projects as a scientist.
He was in his 90s at the time.
It's a wonderful interview if you want to go watch it on my channel.
He thought he was going to be coming forward and talking to everybody and And everything was going to be open, and I knew damn well that interview would be probably the last he ever did, and it was, okay?
I don't know if he's still alive.
Maybe they're pumping him full of, you know, stuff because he was such a brilliant man.
He wrote a book called The Ringmakers of Saturn.
The way we found out about him was through John Lear, and so on and so forth.
But when he talked to me about working at Moffat Field, I just volunteered that I was born in Moffat Field Hospital.
And he looked at me in such a way that was like so, I can't tell you, like, I don't know, you know, I don't know, a combination of pity and whatever else.
And basically he knew that I'd been messed with when I was a child.
With regard to that.
So, it's not an accident that I do what I do and I know what I know, okay?
But, you know, I learned like everyone else, you know, through this incarnation, etc.
So, all right.
So, to get back to this article, because this is really where it's at.
So, it was during a conversation off the record with Kim Goguen, and because of her public attack on Juan,
That she told me, well, that I got some information that Juan had gone to a place called Durango, that he was taking meetings there, and that, according to this person, said that he was asking DARPA and the generals to protect him.
And it got me thinking.
And I was thinking, that's really interesting because, you know, he was supposed to be second in command to Trump.
Although I've had a dream of the future in which he and I are helping Trump run for 2024, but he is not running.
I had that dream before the 2020 election.
And at the time I thought, wow, that's really strange.
I wonder if Trump is going to win the 2020 election because here I'm having a dream about 2024.
And that's what my dreams do.
They tell me things and a lot of times I have to figure it out.
Like, you know, it's not so obvious.
But anyway, so aside from that.
So this information came forward that he was in Durango and that he was asking for protection so i started to think about and go back to cog and i was you know i've always been um investigating cog in various ways to sort of not only vet the information most of it is documented very well with you know documents from the trump administration
you know news articles and it's just an impeccable amazing work 20 it It's like 23 or maybe 24 articles in depth about the entire way That the Trump team not only got into office in 2016 but knew that when he came for re-election in 2020 the election would be stolen because his 2016 election they tried to steal it.
Now I had a whistleblower, no coincidence, that was from the Navy Who came forward to me, and you can see his interview on my show, you know, on my previous videos, and also he came forward to the White Hats and talked with them.
So I happen to know that they talked as well.
But they killed him after the election.
He told us that they were hacking back.
I use the word hacking back.
Certain people don't like it when I use that word, but I don't give a shit.
It's what they did.
Navy put together a team knowing Hillary was hacking the election, taking it away from Trump when he was winning in 2016, and they hacked it back.
That's why it was a surprise, because they basically finally got a clue and decided to use the same tactics that the dark side were using to steal the election to steal it back.
That's what happened in 2016.
So it wasn't for a lack of their efforts, it was the fact that their efforts were countered by the White Hats.
Contrary to popular belief, most people think that so many people showed up in 2016 that it overwhelmed their fraud system, and you're saying that it was more complicated than that.
Because I have whistleblowers.
Now, you don't have to believe my whistleblower, but the guy's coming forward at a great risk to his personal life.
I even know his father now, and so on, family, and I can tell you that the guy was the real thing.
He was a Navy officer.
He's basically an American hero.
So is the whole team that, you know, but that's another matter.
No, that doesn't surprise me at all.
Okay, continue, go ahead.
So in 2016, that's what the White Hats did, okay?
Now, fast forward to Trump, put together whatever team he did, some of which were to keep his enemies closer.
That's one of their principles, okay?
They operate using a lot of strategy, okay?
And a lot of people don't get their strategy.
And I don't always agree with it, and I have actually been public about that.
So, but nonetheless they do what they do and they have a whole modus operandi to the way they operate.
When Okay, from 2016 to 2020, Trump knew he wanted to because his second term was going to be key.
He had to deal with certain things in the first term to kind of like go along and get along and keep his constituents happening and this and that, so that he could get to the point of the second term when he was no longer, let's say, beholden to the people that were trying to control him.
At that point, he would have free reign to do all the things that the White Hats held close to their hearts and wanted to do to change the world.
And that's the truth.
So what happened was, they also knew- So you're saying that Trump had to agree to this?
I'm sorry to jump on this, but I just want to make sure I understand.
So you're saying that Trump had to agree, in essence, to be controlled for a period in order to get to 2020?
Yes.
Yes, I mean, every president, in a sense, every president does that, okay?
Because in the first term, you get one term, and you still, if you want to be re-elected, you still have to do certain things to, you know, for your, the people, constituents, you know, interest groups, etc., people who give you money.
In order to survive, you have to stay alive, right?
To fight another day.
So, it's kind of like built into the system, you could say that.
But in Trump's case, in the White Hat's case, it was special because, as I say, they had a very big agenda to basically do the things that Kennedy, hello, wanted to do.
Everything Kennedy wants to do or wanted to do.
John F. Kennedy Jr.
and Trump wanted to do.
Alright?
So we're talking about something that is years and years in the making.
Something so close to their hearts.
Something that they've dedicated their entire lives to at this point.
That they're risking death and all of that.
Okay?
You know, I wonder too, you know, maybe it's because I know the details, but I don't think you need to be a rocket science to get this, okay?
So, once they had this plan to change the world and to stop the takeover of the United States by the Illuminati, who, by the way, their agenda needs to get the United States to come under heel.
That's a huge, you call it, you know, milestone or obstacle in their way of taking over the world.
If they can't get the United States and its huge military complex behind them, they can't take over the world.
Hello?
So, This became the war that we're part of now, and I have to say that Trump and the White Hats and John F. Kennedy Jr.
It's no accident that he's the son of Kennedy, da-da-da, and that Trump admired Kennedy so much, blah-blah-blah, and that there are signs and symbols everywhere of how much they followed the whole... Hello, Camelot.
There are no coincidences in this world, okay?
There are synchronicities, but coincidences just tell you where the truth is.
So, What happens is that, you know, we come to this time, we come to Durango, we come to John F. Kennedy Jr.
in disguise as, and I can tell you the person said he looked like this.
In other words, he was in his patriot double down disguise as 107, which is actually a pared down disguise.
He still has a fat stomach, but you can see his skinny legs.
On stage, this is all on stage at the Double Down in October, you know, you can see at certain angles that he still, he didn't put a lot of stuff over his nose or this or that.
He does puff up his cheeks, but he's closer to himself than he's ever been, you know, in these other wand disguises and, you know, as the Secret Service guy and even if If he played with Fusco, which a lot of actors play with Fusco, so that's nothing big.
And Fusco is the guy with the glasses that looks very funny.
Dennis Fusco, is that his name?
That guy you're talking about?
Vincent.
I think Vincent.
Oh, Vincent!
Okay.
And I saw, apparently, I was told this.
I know why I always want to call him Dennis.
At the Double Down, I saw Busco, and he was short, too short to be John F. Kennedy Jr., but it was another actor wearing that same disguise.
It's apparently a disguise that makes the rounds that a lot of the celebrities have been using over the years to blend into a crowd when they wanted to go, you know, be hidden.
And the person they said who was at the Double Down in that disguise was Jon Denver, for people that are fans.
Whether it was, I don't know.
But I went straight up to him.
I went like this.
I measured his head above my head, and I'm 5'5".
And he was just like a tiny bit taller than me.
And I said, you're not Jon.
I said something like, well, you're not Jon.
And he just stared at me.
Cause he couldn't believe that, you know, cause I was, you know, I'm investigating.
So, and he didn't like it that I did that, that I came right up to him, like face to face and said that.
So anyway.
So what I'm trying to say is this is, you know, such an intricate story.
Okay, so back to Durango and back to this individual calling.
Juan O'Salvin was taking meetings in that town, apparently high-level meetings, and it went on for a couple days.
And there's even a video that he shot on the river where he was having fun there with, um, I forget who the guy he was with on that boat, but you see him on a river with.
It was a fairly recent video.
So he had some fun while he was there, but he was also apparently telling this person, or telling some generals or DARPA, and I don't know why DARPA is involved, okay?
My understanding of DARPA is that, is not that they were involved in, you know, national security and defense, but that they were More about building inventions, black projects, and that sort of thing.
So, whatever that is, but there are definitely generals in that town.
According to Juan, they created Facebook and, you know, militarized that, but that's a whole other topic.
But again, that's not, you know, giving protection is not, I think, one of their rackets, as far as I know, but what do I know what their real job is?
So, what I'm saying is that he was in that town, he was asking for protection, apparently he felt threatened.
Now, that, as I say, got me thinking, and that's why I wrote the article, because if you go back to COG, and this is what's so important, continuity of government, when they knew the election would be stolen, they made plans, and Trump made executive order after executive order, and all kinds of other sort of I think they call them pleams or pleas or whatever they are.
But anyway, they allow for changes in kind of the law.
Yeah, the PEDS documents, yeah.
So they did it.
He did it very methodically.
It's incredible and it's all documented.
You know, at least most of it is documented on Patel Patriots.
Devolution.link, which I know it's hard for people because it's quite involved, but you should try to, you know, educate yourself and read it.
So what happens is, the trouble is with Patel Patriot, I don't know for sure, and I haven't been able to interview him.
I did invite him, but I don't think it ever went through.
I don't know.
These people don't answer me, so I never know what happens.
But if he sees this video, he should definitely contact me for an interview.
But at any rate, In his sort of layout of COG, he never talks about, if you think about this, you're planning, your government, you're planning for a time when in America your government might be taken over by a foreign power.
So obviously Trump and group, including an AI that they work with, have looked to the future and have seen that not only was the election going to be stolen like digitally, which is obvious kind of doing that today, but on top of it, that it would be
done by collusion with various countries that were part of the Illuminati New World Order group, you know, the Schwab, you know, that whole group, and that they were outside the United States and that they would orchestrate this, okay?
So that's why they were able to break into the safe house in Germany and get the Dominion servers and computers and Gina Haskell got shot in the process.
She was head of the CIA.
It's gone quiet from then, as far as I know.
Whether she really was killed, or I think she's alive, but who knows what game they're playing with her.
Gone quiet, but nonetheless, she was probably in on the steal.
So was the CIA.
So was these various other governments, and this was in Germany.
So, Before Robert David Steele died, and we still don't know if he really died, of course, he was a CIA officer, and I interviewed him a number of times, he interviewed me a number of times, he was good friends with Juano Savin, okay?
They used to have dinner together.
But before he died, he basically said, unequivocally, we have all the evidence.
We have everything of the Steele.
That's what he said.
So, take it for what it's worth, they really have everything, okay?
I'm sure of that, okay?
I agree, completely.
Knowing that they couldn't get it into the justice system because the justice system is completely taken over and corrupted by this group, these foreign actors, these traitors within our system.
This group is totally made up of and controlled by individuals outside our government, okay?
Outside our country, even.
And so knowing that there was going to be a steal, finding out that it was going to be foreign interference, Trump made a number of executive orders about foreign interference in the election before he ever went through the election in 2020, before he Trump made a number of executive orders about foreign interference in the
Another thing that he did was, and this is a cog thing, is he had to set, put together a team, make them aware that they were going to be a shadow government.
By the way, it's perfectly legal in our country.
It's under the Law of War manual, which is based on the Geneva Convention for when a foreign power, you know, intervenes and tries to take over or does take over your government, you have to go through certain processes.
And it's interesting because 107, being JFK Jr., is a trained lawyer and his law abilities are used probably every single day of his life at this point in favor of the white hats and making sure that they follow the law so that they don't get into situations like the FBI just got into with invading Mar-a-Lago.
The FBI are basically under orders from a foreign government So people who don't understand COG do not understand that we've been invaded by the CCP.
Hello, China!
Among others, MI6.
I mean, Juan has listed them.
He has said in interview after interview, he's explained what happened.
He goes into tremendous detail and talks about all the legal documents behind it, and so does this Patel Patriot devolution.
So, understanding this, it's a lot to take on if you don't, you know, kind of have that kind of legal mind and you haven't followed this sort of thing.
You're not even familiar with the whole You know, election process and what these people go through.
But nonetheless, you know, I had to learn quite a bit because I was not a mainstream political person by any stretch of anybody's imagination before I got involved in this kind of white hat thing.
So.
Um, I guess, you know, I know I'm talking a lot.
I hope I'm... Well, I can jump in.
I got a couple of questions on topics that you, uh, you know, I'll give you a little break there.
Um, because, you know, you brought up a couple of things that I was curious to get your take on.
You mentioned, uh, the CCP in China.
A question I was curious about that because A lot of folks out there are wondering, you know, what is going to transpire between China and Taiwan.
Of course, we had the whole drama with Pelosi going over there and, you know, that was all hyped up and that sort of a thing.
But I've also heard some pretty good intel that suggests that they have bioweapon labs, or at least biolabs in Taiwan, and that they may be up to doing the same exact thing that was going on in the Ukraine that prompted Putin to go in and take care of business.
Have you heard that, first of all, and do you expect to see a Chinese incursion?
And if so, how does the fake Biden administration respond to that?
And how does it factor into the whole White Hat plan or agenda as you see it?
I, you know, okay, I understand.
As it is a loaded question as usual, I'm sorry.
No, it's all fine.
So, look, I understand that people have sort of a double sort of standard when it comes to viewing China.
So, on the one hand, they think maybe the Chinese elders, I've been told, and that maybe even Xi, their leader, who was educated in the West, by the way, is sympathetic and along, you know, and gets along with Trump.
And there's certain information out there like that.
Um, yeah, personally, uh, because I have had, you know, again, I've had dreams of the future.
So I have had, I was like flabbergasted even to see one of my dreams starting come true because when I had this dream, I thought it was the most far reaching crazy dream, even though it made me ill.
So I was coming back from doing a Guy M TV appearance and I had to stay overnight at the airport because my flight was leaving so early in the morning.
So I stayed at an airport hotel, and I had the most horrible dream, one of my most horrible dreams I've ever had in my life, actually.
It was very realistic, and the Chinese had invaded America, and they had guns.
I mean, like soldiers, Chinese soldiers were surrounding The airport and this building and I hope this would never happen to me.
So I'm thinking perhaps it's going to happen to someone or maybe it's not going to happen or I don't even know what but all I know is that.
I, you know, there are going to be, you know, revolutionaries, uh, American revolutionaries in the hotel and they are surrounded by the Chinese troops.
And I got, I woke up in the morning sick to my stomach.
Like, I mean, really like, you know, to retch.
I couldn't handle that dream.
So this was many years ago now.
And then I've had other dreams subsequent to that.
Excuse me if I don't think the Chinese are a paper tiger.
You know, I don't.
I actually think they've always planned to invade.
I think they're working with a dark ET group that is motivating them to do so.
I actually kind of love things about Oriental and I am very, have a simpatico to them.
You know, I recommended this.
I've seen quite a few Korean television shows on Netflix, which by the way, yeah, Netflix shows satanic stuff, but it also shows international shows all over the world.
And so that is a very good thing to reveal these cultures to each other, to people who never leave their house.
So I had my life threatened when I went to Hong Kong.
So I'm trying to answer your question.
I understand that there could be a motivation to invade Taiwan to take down bio labs that might even threaten their races.
So it's a double-edged sword when you do that.
Whether they're owned by the U.S., I don't know.
You know, I don't know the Chinese Biolab situation.
I do know that there is, you know, the whole thing about Taiwan has to do with the chip that is a semiconductor chip that is used in aerospace weapons, etc., etc., and that the U.S.
actually depends, as do a lot of the world, on this particular company in Taiwan, and I put posts on my Telegram about it.
So there is reason, and that's not the only reason, but we've also pledged our country to defend Taiwan against a takeover by communist China.
And being in China is hell on wheels as far as I can tell.
You know, I mean, these people are complete maniacs when it comes to, you know, getting rid of human freedom.
And, you know, I, you know, I have no respect for them in that way.
So You know, I don't care who she is or how he's pretending to be whatever he's pretending to be.
You know, these people have demonstrated their ruthlessness.
You know, Tiananmen Square was just the beginning or just the, you know, just when it's not the beginning of the incident and a very widely known incident.
But their ruthlessness is very well, well known.
So can I infer from that then you don't really believe that President Xi is working with the White Hats?
Or you're not really convinced on that?
Okay, now let me talk about what is working with the White Hats, because this is an interesting concept.
And if you don't understand the White Hats and the way they operate, you don't understand what they're doing.
So remember, and never forget it, okay?
Anyone watching this, they have used this concept of keeping their enemies closer.
You keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
And this has been almost the guiding principle behind the Trump administration since day one.
And why would that be?
Think about it.
Because you're surrounded by enemies.
Hello!
Okay, when you live in a world that's dominated by individuals who could just, who care less about life and death, who could kill you and your children and your children's children and your parents and your friends, they don't care, okay?
They have no remorse whatsoever.
So in that atmosphere, what the hell do you do when you're dealing face-to-face with the devil?
You fucking make a deal.
Otherwise you lose your life.
Okay?
And your children lose their lives.
And it goes on from there.
Okay?
So...
This is, you know, if you wrap your head around anything, it's understanding that the White Hats have had to go through.
Think about the death of Kennedy.
From then on, they had to find their members, secretly have, you know, special handshakes or whatever the fuck, you know what I'm saying?
To identify each other, right?
So that they wouldn't, you know, Betray their objectives, etc.
Stay alive all through those years leading up to when Trump even ran for office.
And even to this day, they have to be in disguise.
They have to be in hiding.
This is how they've stayed alive and dealt with the powers that do be at this time on planet earth so it's understandable that you have to kind of go along and get along to a degree in order to get ahead of your enemy it's it's it's really not rocket science
um so now there's a very interesting time coming up and i hope i've answered your question about xi it's It doesn't, look, I don't know if that particular person would like to be a good guy in his life, you know, would like to maybe, but even Xi has to play both sides.
You understand that?
For sure, right.
Orientals are experts at playing both sides.
They have been, you know, saving face and hiding behind, you know, geishas and various, you know, a very, a certain protocol and behavior that's required in their culture to behave, to bow even to your enemy.
Someone that you want to kill, but you can't just kill him outright right then.
You have to wait, okay?
And bide your time until the time is right when you make your move.
This is, you know, all of this is in the Law of War, you know, that book.
It's kind of like the concept of a reverse infiltration that, you know, and I happen to believe, and I've heard about Putin as well, because I happen to believe that he is working with the White Hats behind the scenes and coordinating operations behind the scenes.
Um, and clearly we know that Putin has a KGB past and he was no angel.
So, you know, what exactly what you're talking about now is, uh, this Putin is a clone and this Putin, and there's lots of evidence of this.
He doesn't even look remotely like the original Putin around 2015.
All right.
So you can go back here.
I'm sorry. 2015.
And I'm not sure that's exactly the year, but it's blatantly obvious if you look and watch him's face and, God, his physicality is completely different.
When you know that, and you know, Captain Mark Richards, one of my best whistleblowers, who's in prison and I've interviewed 12 times over a five-year period, he basically told me this, but I already knew it, okay?
So he corroborated the information I already knew, because it was just so obvious.
It wasn't, it's not rocket science.
So okay, And by the way, you know, the Russians were very into cloning.
They even tried to clone, you know, Western leaders and that kind of thing and put them on an island.
There's a whole story about that.
And I've traveled to Russia and interviewed, you know, Valery Uvarov, who was a member of their, you know, Weird Desk, as they call it, in the KGB.
You know, what they didn't call it, they call it the FSB, I think.
Whatever.
He did the same job that Ron Pandolfi did in our CIA for a long time.
I don't know what Pandolfi does now, but...
He was head of what's called the Weird Desk, which involves UFOs and everything alien and blah, blah, blah.
You know, I just have to tell you that I've talked to thousands of people, not just casually, but in serious interviews, some that made it to the screen and some that were off the record and continue to this day.
So I have a tremendous amount of information behind when I talk about this stuff.
And, you know, so I'm not saying that's all correct.
I'm saying that when you are able to take all those pieces and keep adding them into the like if you're making a big picture and you get more and more pieces all the time and you can actually start to see in the formation of the picture when things don't You know, when they hit you wrong, it's very, it's much more obvious the longer you're in this game, right?
It just kind of, it has almost a, it's a, it's an inaudible sound when things are just wrong, right?
So, I get that a lot.
I get, I do get very strong information and And it's proven right over and over again.
I'm not trying to be an egotist here.
It just has.
It's not me.
I'm not orchestrating it.
I don't know.
You could say it's God.
It's the force, which I kind of like to say.
So the force is with me in this way and it stayed with me through these 17 years.
Knock on wood, call it what you will.
But I've done my homework.
I can say that.
So, this is when we get back to Durango, Juan, and how he's asking for protection.
And how that made me think, well, what happens under COG if, yeah, if, and Juan has proven this over and over again, At least for my purposes, to say that Trump was kept by the military, that they looked at the situation.
These people are not stupid.
You know, they add two and two.
They can see the situation.
They know that they were gathering all the evidence anyway.
That by March of 2021, Biden was sworn in on January 20th or 21st of 2021.
By March, they did a ceremony to swear in Trump.
Some of the military are still aligned with the CCP.
They are traitors.
of 2021.
By March, they did a ceremony to swear in Trump.
Some of the military are still aligned with the CCP.
They are traitors.
Hello.
I mean, fucking traitors, these people.
You But, that's their life, that's their choice, that's their path, and they don't like Trump, or his team, or even his agenda.
Because they were getting payoffs from the Rothschilds, these generals.
Okay?
A lot of these generals, I'm sorry, if you take payoffs from the Rothschilds for going to war, and doing a war for them, You know, you're kind of a traitor, you know, so Trump cut those, their, their money off.
So we hate, they hate them.
They hate them.
So, but some of them were wise enough to know that actually they shouldn't have been doing that anyway and they better, you know, be loyal to America and maybe they came over to the Trump side.
So, What we're talking about again is COG and how Trump was sworn in as commander-in-chief of the military.
Do you wonder why Biden couldn't send military troops, I mean troops, on the ground to Ukraine?
He just sent them money?
Because he doesn't have the football.
He doesn't have access to that.
And there's even reason to believe that one of the reasons they broke into Trump's Mar-a-Lago is possibly they're looking for some of that stuff or they're trying to bait him into giving it over.
Well, see, that's interesting because I, you know, when I heard that as myself, you know, I asked myself that question because, you know, Q tells us these people are stupid or whatnot, but I question whether or not they're really dumb enough to believe that Trump is going to keep this stuff in his personal safe at Mar-a-Lago.
I mean, we're talking about...
information that is undoubtedly locked down in Cheyenne Mountain or someplace deep underground.
Well, and let me just say, okay, because people think they don't know who's cloned.
They don't know whether this is the real Trump.
Now Kim is actually saying Trump is dead.
So this is a clone or a double who's running around playing Trump.
Yeah.
It's very possible that the White Hats put that rumor out and that Kim is so stupid that she believes it, that Trump is probably very well alive and he's probably in Cheyenne Mountain.
I mean, come on, you know, get your brain around this situation.
We are at war.
We have COG, operational, a shadow government.
The base of the shadow government is and was Mar-a-Lago.
Okay, Biden and his CCP cohorts have invaded our shadow government, another invasion, okay, to try to take it over.
They are hopeless.
They're not going to win in this way.
And the people have been alerted, whether they're right or wrong to follow Trump, blah, blah, blah.
Listen, this is the game in town, okay?
There is no other game right now.
People who think there's another game, there's not.
This is the game on the planet right now.
The game is take down the United States in any way you can.
That is the Illuminati objective.
Unequivocal.
Okay?
Because again, we are the last bastion of power and we believe in freedom even if we don't have it.
And that makes us a problem, our population.
And we have guns.
Which is going to be a problem for invading Chinese or anyone for that matter.
So, you know, I know, I guess I'm getting a little bit, you know, emphatic about this, but I can't believe the Patriots, even the Patriots and the various channels and people I listen to.
These people do not seem to get, and I'm not saying everyone, I'm saying a lot of people, do not get the seriousness of where we're at in America.
Do you want to be free?
Do you want to be a cog in a Borg machine intelligence?
Make up your mind, choose sides, as Juan would say, pick a side, Because that's the only game in town right now on Earth.
Okay.
I completely agree.
I completely agree.
Well, we've been going for a while now, so we could kind of wind it down if you'd like, and I can end it with a question that I think is pretty relevant considering that it's already August 20th.
The topic of the midterm elections, because a lot of people, including Juan, has questioned in his recent interviews, or he's put this information out there, floated the question.
As he typically does, you pointed out, he's very good at putting out information but framing it as a question.
Just the same way that a lawyer would do very carefully.
But the point is, is that he's suggesting or floating the idea that for the first time in our history, we might not have midterm elections.
There may be some sort of crisis that happens, black swan event, call it what you will, eye of the storm, gut punch, as he calls it, that would necessitate the military stepping in.
And really creating conditions on the ground where we might not even be able to have a national election and both sides of course would have their own motivations of how to spin this and for their own reasons there's a whole bunch of I mean it's a it's a pretty big topic so maybe I shouldn't have ended with it but I'm just curious overall what do you see happening with the midterms and also there's the looming question about the evidence
Pertaining to the 2020 election fraud being destroyed on September 3rd and you know as a listener of one I'm sure you know He's talked a lot about that using the metaphor of throwing the red flag That you know before this evidence gets destroyed at the stroke of midnight on September 3rd Is there going to be some sort of injunction?
Is there going to be some sort of move by the Supreme Court?
A preservation order to prevent the evidence from being destroyed?
Or is that going to be part of this gut-punch experience, this near-death experience?
I'm just curious, with these events looming, what do you anticipate might happen?
Even though, of course, it's all speculation, as we know.
I'm curious, because you are very intuitive.
Do you think we're going to be Having a national election, are we going to just see the rails come off between now and then?
Okay, I haven't had any precog dreams about the midterms yet, so I can't answer on that sort of basis, but I can tell you One thing that I was actually going to say.
And by the way, in order to finish the thing about COG and why JFK Jr.
was asking for protection, it makes logical sense that Trump has to have a second-in-command as commander-in-chief on our side of the shadow government.
Who is it?
And he probably has to have like a number of people that are in the Lower down offices as well to support him.
But there's definitely a VP that was selected and or that is either a military or a civilian person.
Now my understanding is actually John F. Kennedy Jr., his background is now military as well based on the things he did while he was in hiding all these years.
And he seems, even when he talks about it, to be something of a military expert.
And I've heard Jaco refer to him and a few other people with a great deal of respect on that level.
So he has some military background to complement the fact that he's also an expert in media.
Okay, so I just wanted to wrap that up quickly.
So it's not completely outrageous that I'm saying suddenly he's asking for, he's basically demanding he's protected while he's in meetings in Durango.
That sounds like a person who's entitled to protection, who could easily be Trump's choice for the VP, not for 2024.
Because there may be reasons that he can't run, which have to do with his life, his family's lives, etc, etc.
But that he certainly could be the standing MVP during this time of war.
Okay, I'm just throwing that out.
I'm not saying I know.
I don't know.
I just thought it was interesting.
It just triggered the thought.
Now, to get to your question.
The midterms.
Juan is saying that even some, I guess, old-school Republican types are now saying they doubt there'll be midterms.
In fact, he said one person stood up and basically told the whole rest of the group, don't bother to give financing to the candidates because it's not happening.
Whether he's completely wrong, but he's an old-school guy that obviously Juan has some admiration for.
So it's interesting to look at that situation.
What I also see is, and this is a whole other show really, and I think we've kind of covered it in another show, Tentatively, which has to do with Pelosi, the fact that Democrats are going to lose the House and the Senate, the fact that the Republicans are going to come in and enforce, and they can't bear to face that reality, okay?
Pelosi is toast, okay?
And obviously her Her flight to Taiwan was a grandstanding daredevil attempt.
Not only was she paid off, according to one of my sources, she was supposed to get tons of money when she did it.
The CCP put her up to it, but on top of it, she wants herself to look Potentially presidential so that when Biden steps down and Kamala is considered incapable because she's born in another country and everyone knows it and the White Hats are not going to let her anyone get by like they did with Obama.
So the bottom line is that you can see how this it's kind of like if it's a drama and you're watching the movie.
You could see how things are getting heightened to the closer we get to this time when Democrats are kind of like toast when it comes to their influence on the hill, as they call it.
And so there's very interesting dynamics because you see, the Democrats are the pawns of these foreign powers who have taken over our country, okay?
They think they're in cahoots with them.
They think they work with the New World Order.
But the reality is, with or without them, the New World Order has to dominate and take over the United States.
So, It's very interesting.
You have to understand that they have to kiss their ass in order to maintain their standing in that government, that fake government.
And that's very true, Pelosi and the rest of them, including the judge that gave the order to allow the raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago.
So understanding that that's the game.
If this was Nazi Germany, it would be as plain as day.
But because it's America, people just don't see it.
They don't get it.
We are under occupation right now.
I think this FBI raid is really waking up a lot of folks.
I mean, certainly not as many as we want, not as fast as we want, but I think this is really starting to get people's attention and shock people because it's completely unprecedented, first of all, to have a raid on a former president's home.
And with all of the shadiness surrounding it, the attempts to block the affidavit and delay the decision and really just prevent the public from getting the whole story as they typically do, this is really shocking.
And it kind of makes me wonder if this really is just a white hat operation behind the scenes, that they're kind of pulling the strings.
And that's really the central question, I guess, is are the white hats really pulling the strings and leading them into these traps or, you know, are they...
You know, it's kind of like it's not that difficult.
Okay.
So it's both sides are operational.
The white hats...
Like Juan has said on several interviews just recently, Trump is going to be arrested.
I mean, he says that.
He just says it.
Which means they're not just going to invade Mar-a-Lago, but they're going to have supposed reason to arrest Trump and then he'll be, you know, put out on bail, right?
And so on and so forth.
Now, I don't understand This is where, you know, I, as a person, okay, I'm still involved in the situation, looking at it, you know, I'm not front and center involved, and I don't like that they do these things, but they do go along with the plans of the New World Order, like COVID,
Like the takedown in Afghanistan and leaving a bunch of equipment behind and making Biden look like a fool.
Because it suits this narrative for them to be able to wake the people up.
So you have to, I think in a certain way, you have to look at the white hats and Trump And on their priority list, if something takes precedence, they will go along and get along to allow their enemy to get away with it because their enemy will end up looking bad in the future.
And that suits their agenda.
Why?
Because contrary to what Kim said, it's the complete opposite.
All they want to do, one of their highest priority items, is prevent civil war.
You understand?
That one has said repeatedly, okay?
And I can tell you, it's obvious in the moves they make.
It's so obvious.
And so, understanding that back on January 6th, they would never have instigated a civil war situation there.
That's all the Democrats doing.
That whole shenanigans was a Democrat operation.
There's film of them busing people in to go into the White House.
I'm in the Capitol building.
Some of this stuff is, it's like people, I don't know, they don't- But the White House knew it was gonna happen though, right?
I mean, that's just the thing.
Yeah, because it's the way- They know the playbook.
You know your enemy.
This is the first rule of, and I would say this for every human out there right now, If you don't want to listen to me, that's fine.
But I'll tell you, I have made a life study of knowing my enemy.
And so I know them very well.
And that includes studying the works of Alistair Crowley, the various occult, other writers, etc.
I understand very well how the Illuminati think.
They are my enemy.
I knew when I was a kid they were my enemy.
I know that reptilians, by and large, there are some that have become more on our side, but by and large, they want to eat humans.
They are our enemies.
If you don't know your enemy, how can you fight them?
So yes, it's come down to, and don't forget, both sides are using AI to suss out strategic moves daily.
Daily.
Do you understand?
Well, that's a huge part of it.
Absolutely.
They've gamed all this stuff out.
Yes, totally.
And it goes beyond that.
I mean, they can actually see the timeline.
I mean, if we're going into a deeper level, as you and I both know, which plays a role in this as well in terms of understanding But, you know, the higher forces, God, the various, you know, sort of echelons out up there, they're watching this drama as well.
And there's not, it's not, you know, all things have not been yet dreamt of, okay?
There are moves that either side could make that could suddenly change the track that we're on even right now.
We don't know necessarily what they are.
And there are also things to do with, you know, earth changes and forces of nature that can be pushed by the technology they have to happen sooner than was planned.
Well, a good example of that, I think, has to do possibly with the midterms.
I mean, as you pointed out, I mean, the Democrats are not, the prospects are not looking very good for them to pull off their usual fraud, obviously.
I mean, we still have a long way to go, but there are a lot of eyes on these drop boxes.
There have been a lot of states that have, you know, passed laws and they've got a whole, you know, Movement of constitutional sheriffs that are exercising their authority.
So it's going to be harder.
But the point I'm making here is not about the midterm per se, but how the White Hats are watching this play out.
If, for example, the midterms are approaching, they may be the White Hats may be pushing to have this election happen and do everything they can to win the election on the up and up and mitigate their fraud.
And almost dare the bad guys to shut it all down, in which case they have a countermeasure in place.
They have the military there to step in at a moment's notice, if necessary.
That's one possible move if the enemy decides to go that route.
Are they forcing them in that direction?
On the other hand, We may just have a midterm election and see it go forward.
We may see a red wave.
I mean, it's really hard to know at this point, but the point I'm making is that, to your point, that could be how they're looking at the chessboard.
You know, if the enemy does this, if they attempt to shut it down, if they attempt to go for a comms blackout because of all this information flooding out and they have no other way to stem the tide of it, You know, then we'll go in this direction, but if they don't, then perhaps we'll go in a different way.
So, you know, kind of prompted me to say that when you pointed out that even at this stage in the game, this late stage in the game, there are still moves to be made on either side that could change the journey or the path, you know, that we take from here until however long it takes for this to resolve itself.
Does that make sense?
Right um well there's this okay so this is the last thing there's uh this coming next weekend so today's Saturday a week from today they're doing uh Juan and Nino made an announcement they're doing this Texas Reckoning event where they're having lots of speakers I'm not one of them.
Guess why?
But anyway.
But I'm going, okay?
Now, I don't even want to go, but I'm going because I feel that I need to be there.
And God knows what'll happen, you know, as a result of my presence because, you know, whatever.
So, you know, because I tend to be, I can disrupt the situations.
My level of truth is often not the level of truth operational in any given social gathering.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Oh, totally, yeah.
So that could be disruptive, but let's say I go and I'm very well behaved and so on and so forth.
Anyway, but the bottom line is the wand has put this out there and the name of the gathering is not accidental.
It's called the reckoning.
Now think about that, because what that indicates is that we're coming to a time and that this may be a cutoff point to where some of the things that are in COG that have to do with the military taking actions could actually be about to happen.
And the reckoning is just that sort of, you know, the whistle, the, you know, the flag that says go.
That's what I'm taking from what he said.
So I think the name of the thing, the fact that he said it's the last time they're going to appear in something like a public event, either one of them, for a while, is how he put it.
Well, that sounds like we're going into another level of the battle, okay?
Yeah, definitely.
So I think with that in mind, for people that, you know, aren't going to be there, but want to understand how, you know, what might be coming in the future, it looks like maybe all the evidence they're looking for, you know, because there are a lot of people saying, I'm sick of one, I'm sick of, you know, Trump, I'm sick of the whole white hat things.
They'd never do what they're saying.
They didn't do this.
They didn't arrest that one.
You know, they want hangings.
They want public hangings.
I am not one of those kind of people.
However, I can kind of understand that.
The thing is that Let me just throw... I think people just want concrete proof at this point.
A lot of folks have just come down to that.
Yeah, they do, but they have concrete proof, you know, a lot, but they don't see it, you see.
They don't get it because they don't understand the context and they don't pay close enough attention to the information that's... as it's given.
And they have their own doubts and their own, you know, issues, but The bottom line is that, let's say you hang a bunch of people.
Do you think the bad guys are then gone from the earth?
They're not.
Okay.
So, kill one bad guy, another one will pop up very shortly after that.
Guaranteed.
Well, that was the joke they played on us with the Nuremberg trials.
Exactly.
They hanged a handful of Nazis and then look where we are now.
Exactly.
So, you know, they did some good things, you know, to try to bring out the truth at the Nuremberg trials, but they also, with the help of the Americans in spades, you know, OSS and the Dulles brothers, they brought over the very thing that we had been fighting, and it's basically taken over our country.
And the medical tyranny is part of that package, and we humans, especially Americans, fell You know, fell for it, okay?
They vaxxed themselves to death even before the vaccines, these particular vaccines.
They, you know, they eat horrible food.
They, you know, they're, it's like a huge, you know, they believe in their doctors unequivocally.
All they do is rush to a hospital.
Isn't that ironic though, right?
That they believe in their doctors unequivocally.
They believe in their doctors and yet they're, you know, doing all this stuff that's just So obviously unhealthy and so obviously not good for them.
But you're right.
I mean, I think your article was excellent in the sense that it really hones in on the central issue with a lot of these people is the mind control, is they just simply can't wrap their brain around the possibility, if we want to put it as mildly as we could, that the doctors are wrong.
And I think it goes way beyond that personally, and that's a whole separate discussion.
But, you know, people can't even begin to think about that and wrap their brains about this idea that these men and women in white coats that they've always trusted literally with their lives since birth, Could be up to something nefarious or, bare minimum, could be criminally negligent.
Because that's the reality if lay people out there who aren't medical professionals, let's just say, can gather all this information and come to a very logical conclusion that, while they may not understand the inner workings of everything that's going on in that bioweapon shot, they don't want it in their body.
I mean, it's really glaringly obvious.
There's a million different reasons not to get that shot.
And if you're a doctor and you don't know these things, you're bare minimum criminally negligent in my view.
But the problem is that there's this such level of mind control that we're battling against with people is that they just simply can't imagine the depth and the scope of the evil.
And that's something that you talk about all the time when you focus on the big picture of really what we're up against here.
It goes so far beyond what most people can even conceive of.
But even on a 3D level, it's just this idea that people can't trust their own doctors.
And their doctors are pushing these things.
And I have to say, I mean, I'm not an intuitive like yourself per se, but for a long time throughout my life, I mean, I just always had these, felt this really dark energy when I was in a hospital or a doctor's office.
And I mean, we've talked a lot about Juan tonight.
I've heard Juan say outright about the medical establishment that if you knew the truth, you would never go back, you know, unless you had no choice.
So, you know, I think that's really a real big part of the problem we're facing.
And unfortunately, as you know, I mean, I forgot what the latest statistics are.
I think Mike Adams put out a podcast where he was talking about 10,000 people a day are dying.
And of course they're hiding that.
Somebody showed me a funny article in England.
Those huge statistics, they try to cover them up.
The government lies just when it's opening its mouth.
So they're now calling them vaccidents.
They have car accidents because they lose it when they're behind the wheel.
So watch out on the road, guys.
You're not, you know, these overly vax people.
They're just a danger to everyone, you know.
and uh again it's but it is also you have to understand it's not even the doctors who are yes and nurses and people in you know that are in big pharma and administer their shots you know in drug stores and all that kind of crap
The fact is that these people, a lot of times, do you know that, you know, you go up to get the shot and if you ask them if you can see that, you know, that little piece of paper that's supposed to be in the box that you open up?
They showed you on videos early on.
It's blank.
It's blank, right?
It doesn't have anything on it.
There's no warnings.
And you know, they took down my YouTube channel when I pointed out or I shared the information on the PCR tests that they were putting ethylene oxide on those.
And now, of course, there's a whole bunch of more information that's coming out about what they're doing behind the scenes with cloning technology in the PCR test.
So, I mean, the rabbit holes just get deeper and deeper and deeper.
But the point is that your average person out there walking around who hasn't even begun to interact with these issues has no ability, I think at this point, to be able to Look at their doctor.
I mean, you know, and that's the thing.
Maybe we're approaching that point.
See, I think that something major is going to come out about really on all different fronts.
It's just going to be undeniable.
I don't know in what form.
I've been speculating now for months about how this might play out.
Of course, being honest that it's all speculation, but I do believe that there is just going to be a point where The proof is just so irrefutable and it's just so in your face that you can't hide from it anymore.
And I think we've seen increasingly, incrementally, that's been what's happening as the mainstream media is dying, you know, and the Brian Stelters and the Rachel Maddows of the world are going away, and all these people are losing their credibility.
We've been watching them die for a long time, but now they're really dropping like flies.
And, you know, the alternative media and all this truth is starting to rise, and all these folks are gravitating toward it.
I think we're starting to witness the beginning, but still, I believe that we have to have this major shock event, if you will.
And I don't really know how else to describe it that's going to shake people to their core.
out of their apathy and out of the mind control and out of the coma really that you know the MK Ultra Tavistock coma that we were all born into when we entered into this matrix I mean and that's really the description of most folks out there who are unawake and unaware but I do believe that gradually is happening but yet I don't think anything's going to really push us over the edge until that proof is just so obvious that folks can't hide from it anymore.
And I happen to believe that the mainstream media has to come down in order for that to happen.
So I think we're getting close.
Yeah, I really do.
I think that we have barely entered the days of sort of taking people to task for their roles in this whole scenario.
So, and that includes, you know, Trump's role.
And you can appreciate, don't you think that's like the perfect plan for the dark side?
They bring in a guy who wants to run.
They force him to go along with this agenda item, which in the end is going to come back to bite him because he did, he went along to stay alive and to, so that he could run.
And so now he becomes stigmatized as being one of the bad guys when he's actually one of the pawns, you know, that simply followed the orders in that case, right?
And he did it to a tee.
He overacts, you know, I don't know.
See, again, people are like kind of dense.
Don't you realize that he's overacting when he says how wonderful the vaxes are?
He, you know, this is actually part of the plan.
This is what they do.
And by the way, if you don't see the JFK-Trump sort of triumvirate, that's the three, but whatever, you know, duo, Pillars behind the whole plan.
Then you don't understand that for every time that Trump said it was good, Juan said it was bad.
And if you knew who they were, both were in their relationship behind the scenes.
And by the way, there is evidence that Trump didn't want his kids to be vaxxed.
I don't know whether they got vaxxed or not.
I assume they didn't.
So you don't think that Trump's main motivation to push the vaccine, because I mean, this is something that was really widely discussed at the time when he first started doing it, the idea that he was trying to overcome their attempts to keep us locked down for five years with Operation Warp Speed and more the idea that he was trying to overcome their attempts to keep us locked down for five He said that was their other approach.
You know, there's never just one layer.
So yes, he had to go along with it.
Yes, he had to become a spokesperson.
He had to expose himself in that way.
And now he's going to get recrimination because of it, which is all part of the design from the Illuminati side.
But their white hats are not standing idle.
They would say, well, what can we do?
How can we throw a wrench in their plans?
And their plan was warp speed to speed them along.
So that they couldn't do this drawn-out, you know, takeover of locking us down and taking away our freedoms right from the get-go.
However, they designed it.
Do you know what I'm saying?
They're not idle under any of the things that they're dealing with.
They're always getting multiple layers to operate at any one time.
That's part of the reason they're so hard to read.
If you can understand.
So it's like, I mean, God, is it 1984?
There's this really old movie of it.
And if you look at people that are prisoners in a prison, they have to follow orders, right?
But they figure out so many ways to get away with small freedoms and moves that can undermine the authorities.
You understand that?
If you take that metaphor and you expand it, you understand what we're talking about.
Many of us who have been face-to-face with tyranny have learned certain behaviors to get around and still get what we want and still, you know, get away with stuff.
I do it all the time.
You know, when I was supposed to wear a mask to get groceries, I would get and put the mask on and be so bored with it and sick of it.
I'd do it at the, you know, I'd already be in the store by the time they stopped me, right?
And then I put on a mask, but interestingly enough, first of all, I didn't use their regular mask.
I used a bandana so I could make a statement saying that I was an outlaw.
With anyone, half a brain wouldn't recognize that, right?
Because that's what outlaws used to wear, was bandanas that covered half their face.
And then the other thing I would do is it always fell off.
all through the store when i'm buying my stuff it would fall off and i would just forget about it and then when they reminded me i would put it on i was on a plane where the stewardess walked up and down the aisle and had to tell me like i swear to god at least 10 times to put my mask on Because I would simply not wear it.
I would just let it fall.
So was I doing an overt, fuck you, I'm not doing this in her face?
No.
I was actually finding a way as somebody who's used to being, you know, coerced and run by these fucking, you know, morons.
To dig up, get away with it.
And, you know, so in that similar way of that, you learn how to think like a prisoner and, you know, let's face it.
To sabotage from within, basically.
Every American knows how to do that.
That's how we won the Revolutionary War, you know, was by unconventional warfare.
Right.
And you can guarantee yourself that if you want to know how we're going to win this war, it's going to be by unconventional means.
That's very interesting.
So yeah, it sounds to me like your read on it is like that they're in there.
I mean, Trump got in there and had to make certain, as you put it, deals with the devil in order to get into power so that he could work from that position to be able to sabotage within, but ultimately had the trump card of the military.
I would argue, and really the Q team, really the Department of Energy Q clearance team in Cheyenne Mountain, and those folks backing him the entire time.
Well, if he's commander-in-chief, don't you see?
Don't you see what a huge victory that was?
And I'm sure that the Biden group are just going crazy over that every minute of every day.
I agree.
Take heart.
You know, there are some things happening behind the scenes and this is a war and, you know, we are here and we might as well fight it.
If you're a warrior, you know, stand up and fight.
Well, it's going to be a very interesting rest of 2022.
That's all I know.
I mean, one way or another, it's going to get I mean, I just think that as we approach the midterms, we're going to see more and more desperation and more and more drama, and I think it's going to be fascinating to talk about.
So I look forward, actually, to getting you back on for number five, and we can hash this out together.
So it's really been fun talking to you, Kerry.
As always, it's an honor.
I appreciate you coming on my platform.
And, you know, sharing all of your knowledge and expertise and experience as a truther and really a leader in this movement.
So, you know, thank you so much.
And thank you, everybody out there in the audience, really, for taking the time to listen.
Make sure you check out Carrie's website is, of course, ProjectCamelotPortal.org.
Is that, did I get that wrong?
No.
Portal.com.
Sorry.
Okay.
ProjectCamelotPortal.com, ProjectCamelot.org, or ProjectCamelot.tv.
They all go to the same place.
Fantastic.
All right.
Well, thank you so much also for your good questions and the fact, you know, it's easy to talk to you because you're so up to speed on everything.
So, you know, I don't have to reinvent the wheel in order to talk to you.
Well, you're one of the people that, you know, that keeps me up to speed, you know, so thank you.
And, uh, that's why it's really, it's a fun conversation to have, and I look forward to having you back.
So again, thank you.
And thank you everybody out there for listening.
God bless God speed Patriot out.
Okay.
Take care.
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