Kerry Cassidy & Patriot Underground: White Hat COG Strategy - Secret Space
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Patriot Underground.
Today is April 28, 2022.
Thank you so much for joining me, folks, to discover the truth beneath the surface.
And tonight, once again, I have the honor of welcoming Keri Cassidy back.
This is our third discussion.
And it's always an honor, Keri, to welcome you to the show.
I really appreciate you taking the time to give us your take on all of these important issues.
So thank you so much for joining us.
First of all, how have you been?
Great.
It's kind of an exciting time.
In terms of research, you know, for people that are researchers, and as an investigative journalist, I'm coming across all kinds of very interesting things right now.
So it's kind of exciting, and I think maybe things are shifting, and then we can talk about all that.
Excellent, excellent.
Well, I thought really what I would do is begin our discussion by asking you just kind of broadly to give us your take, maybe on the status of where we are, or maybe more specifically, if you've come across any new intel that you view as a significant development, it could be either positive or negative, and just give us your general assessment of where we are right now, and then we can branch off from there.
Okay, well, one of the things I'm looking at is this whistleblower testimony, and he calls himself Ryan Darkwhite.
So it's obviously a assumed name.
He was thrown in prison, beaten up by the cabal, and there's a lot of detail about that in the transcript.
So we can put the link under this broadcast so people that haven't seen it can see it for quite long.
It's a testimony given to Linwood, and it is a legal document.
So it has, you know, every line is numbered.
If you're familiar with legal documents, you can see that that's what this is.
Now, it's been published, and what's not clear to me, it was just sent to me.
I hadn't seen it before.
Maybe it was something others have seen.
But I, you know, I do a ton of, you know, my telegram videos.
It's extremely active.
I'm now on Truth Social.
I've been on Twitter in another account.
They actually banned me two years ago, so I don't know if they're going to give me back my original.
But I've been on Twitter in another sort of assumed name, if you want to call it that, when they banned me.
And so I see a ton of stuff.
People send me stuff.
And this has just not crossed my desk until now.
So it is a testimony of an individual, again, calling himself Ryan Darkwhite.
I don't know if...
It looks like it was published officially in March of 2021.
So it's been out there for over a year in theory.
And again, testimony given to Lin Wood.
I haven't seen him refer to it, but maybe I missed that as well.
I just don't know.
I'd have to hear from others on this.
And the other thing I want to point out is what's happening with the whole set of articles with Patel Patriot on, you know, called Devolution.
And I've been delving into that, actually, for a while now.
And I just came across there because there's a crossover between these two pieces of information coming out.
So on the one hand, you've got this whistleblower, and he is actually whistleblowing on the fact that Biden and And Pence are both pedophiles.
And there's a lot more to his testimony and a lot of detail.
Judge Sullivan is also implicated in this.
The former Attorney General under Trump, Rob Rosenstein, is heavily implicated in this.
Mitt Romney...
And who else?
Okay, well, and Pence, you know, obviously.
So these are individuals that were, Pence was obviously brought into the Trump administration in 2016 as his VP. And I want to address a certain area of the Patel Patriot testimony and article, because I think he's overlooking some, you know, what this whistleblower is pointing to and what is also known.
Widely in the community, and I'm not sure why he would have missed this other element.
So looking into all of that, then on top of it, I have done an in-depth article trying to show people the big picture of Of what is happening on planet Earth and why we're having this, in essence, a war with the cabal right now that's really escalated ever since Trump hit the scene.
Trump and the White Hats is basically what's happening.
So if you're in denial that there even are White Hats, then obviously it's very difficult to even have a conversation.
But assuming...
And I can give a lot of background for that if you need it, that there is a group of white hats, that they are part of the Trump Q movement, whatever you want to call that.
Then you begin to sort of dice up the earth into these two major factions.
And this is critical right now because we're entering This galactic, I don't know, superhighway that we're now sort of front and center as a planet and why that might matter right now.
So I wrote a major article on that.
I haven't quite made my video yet.
But then prior to that, I made another video update that seems to be making a lot of rounds.
And that is all about A lot of the things going on on the planet and the link up with COVID and the reptilian agenda, etc.
So it's a lot.
Okay, excellent.
Well, actually, I mean, did you want to comment more on devolution and Pence or do you want to move on to some of the topics that you talked about in your recent video?
Well, I think it would be good to touch on that devolution and Pence because I think this is very critical.
It's critical for people understanding or trying to understand how the White Hats and Trump operate, why they make the decisions they make.
And this is very contentious right now.
A lot of patriots have reached...
The end of the rope, they're sick of waiting for, you know, big changes that supposedly were going to happen, promised in part by their main spokesperson for the White Hats is what I consider to be one of the main spokespeople is Juano Savin.
And statements he's been making to Nino Rodriguez, where he does a lot of interviews with, you know, Nino does interviews with him.
And then a few other, you know, I think, you know, people that he kind of talks to.
Tom Numbers guy and a few others.
So...
Basically, the playing field has gotten, at least from the Patriots I hear, and I think the word out there, and it's very understandable, that everyone is kind of fed up at this point.
And so we have to look at what's really going on.
And I did, let me also say that I did a radio show with Sean David Morton, who was in prison for four and a half years or so, and he's recently gotten out.
He has had a terrible bout of cancer that emerged during prison, and he was tortured in prison as well.
Now, he has written and now published, I think it's the fourth in a series called Sands of Time Books.
Called Time Runner.
And he invited me, he started his Strange Universe radio show and had me on his show as his first guest.
And that was just on Monday.
And that was a really heated debate.
It wasn't really an interview with me.
He, you know, was quite, I don't know what you want to call it.
But like a lot of patriots, again, Trying to look at the situation, critical of the situation with the White Hats.
He's more or less in denial there even is such a thing as White Hats, as far as I can tell.
But understandably, he's been out of the scene for four and a half years and hasn't really gotten up to speed.
Other people are going to know, especially those who follow my work, that the White Hats really do exist, that I've been dealing with White Hats.
I mean, and I've met them personally as well and even worked with them for, you know, I don't know, five or ten years at this point.
So I guess what I wanted to say is that talking about the Patel Patriot Devolution series, and I highly recommend it, I think it's excellent.
He brings a ton of backup material so he doesn't just make statements off the top of his head.
He's a real researcher.
And has really gone down the road with all of the evidence for everything that he's putting forward.
And it is written, you know, a lot of people like videos, but I think he is starting to make videos as well.
And in fact, I think he might be interviewed various places.
I think Nino might have interviewed him, although I'm not sure.
So I, because there's one part of his entire, there's 20 articles.
There's a part, and it's actually more in the earlier sections, one part where he deals with why Pence, as the VP, simply waved on what was, in essence, evidence of the steal before Biden was even sworn in.
And he leads up to that with a very good series of points, saying that even the military was aware at that point, and this is in December, and that the I guess it's the director of DNI. I believe it's, yeah, the national director, DNI, whatever they call him.
Anyway, that was also aware of the steel and he shows how that guy was doing certain things, writing certain memos, making a big deal about a particular meeting and a photograph and so on.
And you can read into the series to get all of that information.
But what I want to say about that is that he leads up to the fact that these players knew that the election was stolen by December.
And that there is this intelligence report that was supposed to be done, which was actually delayed and was not given, was not even, I guess, given to the president until like the day before, as I recall, given to the president until like the day before, as I recall, the day before Biden was So that the report that should have...
Pointed out the steal, the election steal, and stopped everything in its tracks wasn't done on time.
But there were people that were aware of the steal anyway.
And then I also want to make the point that Trump, okay, when he was sworn in back in 2016 when he took office and he had Pence as his vice president, Was already part of a group of White Hats that had actually made it possible for him to even run for office.
And that I had and the White Hats had a whistleblower who was a Navy guy.
And his last name, his name was Rick Davis.
And he was part of a group of hackers, actually.
People don't like me to call them hackers, but I think it's a perfectly fair term.
But at any rate, they were hackers that knew that Hillary was stealing, hacking into the 2016 election results and was trying to steal the election.
What they basically did was hack into that and stop it.
And so they didn't so much alter the results as make the results that Trump was already winning obvious and so forth.
And that's how he won.
And that's how it happened in such a way that it was unpredicted.
You know, a lot of people didn't expect Hillary to lose, even the cabal, apparently.
So you're saying there was intervention in that election to ensure that their fraud would not put Hillary in office, more or less?
To stop her from stealing the election.
Right.
So it wasn't fraud.
It was them preventing their fraud.
Yeah, it was her fraud.
So I had a whistleblower, and I interviewed him and spoke to him on and off the record.
But the White Hats also spoke to him, and he also reported to them.
He was a White Hat, really.
And I've just done an interview with his father, not his father, his...
Let's see, something like, there's a relationship.
I think it's his uncle, his uncle.
Anyway, his name is Phil Bailey, who's a former Air Force intelligence guy, as it happens.
And he, on his deathbed, they killed him.
They killed Rick Davis.
Okay, so he was part of the Navy group that, as I say, took back the election from Hillary, stealing it, or stopped the steal.
And Two months after Trump, I think it was two months after Trump was sworn in on 2016, the cabal killed him with a fast-acting cancer.
On his deathbed, this young man, relatively young man, I think he was in the 50s or whatever it was, He told his uncle that he was being killed by the cabal.
So I have a lot of relationship to this inside story.
And so that's a setting in which you need to understand That Trump and team, when they came on board in 2016, knew that when he was going to go up for re-election in 2020, it would be stolen again.
Because the fact is that elections had been stolen ever since the assassination of President Kennedy.
And that is known.
Of course.
And so this is what they were dealing with.
So what the White Hats decided to do was to allow the steel in 2020 to go through.
But in the process, they would capture all the intelligence on it so that they could prove after the fact that this had happened to the American people.
Now, we still are waiting for them to...
I mean, there's a movie that just came out that shows part of the steal of the election, which is called 2,000 Mules, I think is the name of it.
And I think, you know, are you aware of that?
Yeah, Dinesh D'Souza's new movie.
I heard about it, but I haven't seen it yet.
Right.
So...
Dinesh has been interviewed and basically says, as far as he's concerned, it proves the case.
So he's made a documentary of this.
What you might say, the boots on the ground, the steel from the lockboxes, mail-in ballots, that part of the steel.
But aside from that part, is the foreign intervention involved?
In the steel, which Juan of Salvin has talked at length about.
So, you know, I don't want to go all over all of that for everyone.
But I will say that Patel Patriot, again, in his devolution articles, is outlining a lot of these things, although he doesn't seem to be aware of the whistleblower, Rick Davis, that was killed, that, you know, all that story.
So, you know, maybe I can give him a heads up on that.
But at any rate, I recently joined his chat room while I'm reading his articles because I wanted to give him heads up on a piece of information that he was getting wrong, and that is that Pence, he's painting as a good guy, and I'm And not only, I already knew that he was a pedophile.
Now, you have to look at the situation as far as, there's different ways to know that information.
Number one is Congress, people in Congress, and there are a lot of people in Congress that are going to be implicated as pedophiles.
As time goes on.
So there's a whole, you could call it an old boys network, that is, you know, basically involved in this kind of stuff.
The Epstein, it all links up to the Epstein, you know, sort of adrenochrome highway situation that Hollywood's also all implicated in.
So all of these things all tie together.
But bottom line is, it surprised me in reading his Articles, Patel Patriots, that he seemed to think that Pence was a good guy.
And the fact is that Pence did not object or did not come forward, even though, as I say, they already knew that it was going to be a steal.
And he had already been the vice president for four years with Trump.
So we have this whistleblower again called Ryan Darkwhite.
Who gave testimony, extended testimony, in a very legal setting, I have to say.
And I think he might have been in prison during the time when he was giving testimony to Lynn Wood.
So the transcript has been published.
Again, we can give you the link.
I think it went out a year ago, but no one seems to have talked about it because I haven't seen it around.
So I'm highlighting this because in that testimony, it's completely implicating Through a great deal of detail that Pence is a pedophile, was a known hater of Trump all the way back in 2016.
That Rob Rosenstein, the Attorney General, was also sort of part of a little, you know, little grouping.
I don't know what you want to call it, conspiracists, you know, traitors, whatever.
So it was him, again, Mitt Romney and Pence and Sullivan and there's a number of these sort of cabal individuals who were owned by the cabal in light of their pedophilia and includes Biden.
So apparently I don't know what you want to call them.
These houses were set up by Judge Sullivan, this whistleblower says, where children were delivered to Biden for pedophile-type activities.
And this has been going on, obviously, for years, long before Biden became president.
Hard to believe he did under these circumstances, but this is how this thing is rolling.
So It's so important to understand where are the White Hats at when Trump would bring in a guy that he had to know.
Look, if he knew the election was going to be stolen, if he knew that Pence was his vice president, he knew he was a pedophile when he brought him in.
And he knew Biden was a pedophile and he knew that there's evidence that Obama was well aware of all of this and allowing for even facilitating it and getting paid to shut up about it.
And that doesn't even get into what, you know, Obama was involved in as well.
So if you can see, I'm painting a picture here.
So what I'm trying to say about it is that the White Hats allowed this to happen.
And they seem to have this as sort of their modus operandi.
They allow, okay, so you've got the Cabal, and they have been operating the way they operate for the last hundreds of years, going back to ancient Egypt.
And It's basically what we call the Illuminati during these days.
And it is made up of Satanists, Luciferians, and skull and bones, and the whole nine yards in the United States, and so on.
So they have taken over our country.
The major coup was when John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
So it started then and that's why he has a queue around his grave and that the queue organization was a group of patriots, real patriots, who realized what was happening along the lines of Kennedy, who also was part of this, who was realizing that our country was being taken over by these Satanists and was intent on stopping them and part of the reason he was obviously killed.
And Howard Hughes as well.
It goes back even to him in the 50s.
Absolutely.
It does go back earlier, but I'm trying to encapsulate this at least to something.
This is for people, for the benefit of the people that actually don't realize they're white hats.
So I'm just trying to sort of focus their minds so that they will also understand why John F. Kennedy Jr., It becomes important to the story because the major part of Q and that operation that Trump and John F. Kennedy Jr.
put together in an escalated fashion and created this whole thing, you know, the Q drops and all of that.
So they were totally...
Brought in to the White Hats.
And I've also dealt with White Hats.
A lot of people will know Paladin is a White Hat.
He's a financial forensic investigator who I've done many interviews with.
He's interviewed me.
I've interviewed him.
And he's also has an organization called the White Hats Reports or something.
I forget the URL, but you can search it out there or find it on my website.
And they published documentation substantiating the crimes against the American people specifically.
That the White Hats were documenting.
So this was part of, they had a website, and they have a website, although Paladin has more or less gone dark, as we call it, for the last at least two years, from what I understand it.
So they were also involved in revealing this huge amount of money that was reported in the House of Lords And there's a whole story to do with that.
And they revealed that in their documentation.
And there's other things they've been revealing to do with, you know, what's been going on behind the scenes.
So they are made up, again, of patriots.
And they are law enforcement, former law enforcement, military, ex-military, agency people, ex-agency people.
And so you can see how it goes.
That's What they do is they found members.
They created like a secret society.
Loosely, we call them the White Hats.
And they are what Trump and JFK Jr.
have been heavily involved with.
And that also involves Q and a computer AI system and some of the top generals.
Now they have a signal.
And by the way, Mark Richards is part of that group.
Captain Mark Richards, who I've interviewed many times, and he actually told me they have a signal, they have a way of signaling to each other who, what side they're on, so to speak.
Because this is a very convoluted, you know, I don't know what you want to, swamp, okay.
So all of that comes back to Patel Patriot and The testimony from this whistleblower that is further implicating Pence as having already been suspicions out there that he is a pedophile, the word has gotten around.
I had certainly heard it and fully believed it because I got a psychic hit about this, which I rely on my psychic hits very strongly because they turn out to be right most of the time.
If not always.
And so what I find interesting is here we have a whistleblower, again, making testimony to Lin Wood, a very legal document implicating a number of players and basically, especially Biden and Pence in terms of being pedophiles.
Now, this has not rocked our government.
So obviously it never made it to the mainstream.
And I'm also noticing it seems not to have made it to the mainstream.
Alternative much.
Some people can write in and prove me wrong or whatever.
So I have been putting out some of the testimony because I know people...
There's hundreds of pages of this testimony, so I know that a lot of people won't even bother to read it, so they're going to miss the important bits.
And what it does is put into question...
The idea that he, that Pence was a loyal member of the Trump team who was told to, I mean, I don't know if this is what Patel really thinks, but in essence waived the sort of the electoral college Thank you.
Thank you.
And that he did his job well in that respect.
And I actually posted on the contrary.
The reason is for the very reason of something that he cited in his document, which is that as the vice president, he is sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution.
Of the United States.
And in the Constitution, in his oath of office, he actually agrees to defend the United States against any traitors, any infiltration, foreign and domestic.
So when he let that The steal go.
He was basically not doing his job.
He was actually derelict in his job because he had sworn an oath to protect the Constitution and to protect us against just this kind of thing.
Now, he's not the only one.
Obviously, all of Congress is implicated in the steal.
They all let it go.
They all swore in a pedophile who's now supposedly head of our country and is a joke anyway, and so on.
So we're really looking at something that it's no small matter as to the actions of Pence.
And the documentation suggests in this whistleblower testimony now That Pence was known to be an enemy of Trump.
That he and Rosenstein, and this Rosenstein, I don't know how you say the last name, but this Rob Rosenstein was heavily implicated.
What they wanted to do was to get rid of Trump.
Rosenstein And have Pence be president and Rosenstein wanted to be the vice president.
That was their plan.
And Mitt Romney somehow wanted to factor in maybe he was, you know, trying to get in as vice president or whatever.
And so this is all diagrammed out by this whistleblower.
As a plot, in essence, within the Trump administration.
And so my point to people that want to understand why Trump, if they knew that they had this snake in the grass, as he was referred to in one place, Pence, why would they allow this?
And that goes into the whole tactics of the White Hats that have driven a lot of people mad lately, and all through the time, simply because they have been up against this huge cabal that, again, goes back to the days of ancient Egypt, that has slowly taken over our world.
And COVID was, you might say, the coup de grace.
To where they want to basically now change our DNA and turn us into transhumans and into a new world order.
Actually, I had a question.
There's a build.
You know, that I'm trying to describe and why the White Hats had to deal with this huge monster and then had to have a tactic, had to have a plan in which how to fight such a monster, a debilitating monster that's actually, for all intents and purposes, infiltrated the entire world, possibly with the exception of Russia, because Putin would not go along with their plan.
And so that's one of the reasons they constantly see Russia as the enemy.
But within the United States, they had a very special kind of war to conduct.
And what they chose was to conduct a secret war.
And so I know you had something you want to say.
So go ahead.
I hope that encapsulates...
No, no, that's okay.
Finish your point and I'll let you finish up and...
Well, that's kind of it.
So what I wanted to say was that, okay, it's most easily described, as far as I'm concerned, with the saying, you know, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
So in allowing Pence to operate the way they did, they not only bring on board what you call the rhino Republicans, who would tend to side with the cabal against Trump, Okay, so in a voting situation.
So they needed the majority.
They always are looking politically at the majority rule, right?
And so they need that.
So he let this snake into his administration.
Knowing Bill full well, it would make it appear as though he was a middle of the road or someone that the rhino Republicans and even some Democrats could possibly vote for.
Where at the same time, what they do is the typical sort of spy gate or spy, you know, spy technique, which is to let the bad guy do what they're going to do so they can follow him, track him, track his friends, which is to let the bad guy do what they're going to do so they can follow him, track him, track his friends, find out who he's
Or, you know, isolate him from within the administration so there would be meetings that he wouldn't be invited to, there would be a code language that he would not be party to.
Thank you.
I think we can go back in history, see a lot of VPs who have never been able to get very far with anything, really, because I think a lot of times presidents are notorious for sort of limiting the access that a VP has.
So this is how they operate, and this is how they have allowed so many of their own enemies.
It wasn't stupidity.
It wasn't that Trump was fooled.
It's an act, okay?
And I don't know why people don't get this.
I mean, to me it's blatantly obvious.
So I think I'm explaining this enough at the moment.
No, I absolutely agree.
I mean, I think that certainly going back to when Trump took office and started to build a cabinet, well, I mean, chose a running mate, and I have to be honest with you, Pence always, there was something about that guy that always made my skin crawl anyway.
But the point that I want to make is that back in those days, long before anybody was talking about devolution, and at a time when Trump came into office, and I think most of us believed that he was going to take the country in the right direction, which he did, But didn't really expect that we were going to go through this whole 2020 ordeal and this whole devolution process.
And I think a lot of people at the time were questioning, you know, why is he bringing these people in?
These people are all enemies.
I mean, these are all snakes, you know?
And there's, you know, Trump talking about these parables of, you know, letting the snake in and everything.
It's almost like...
It almost was like he was communicating with us that that was what he was doing.
Well, actually, that's part of Q's strategy as well.
In other words, Trump talks in code as, you know, as part of the whole Q modus operandi.
And actually, they all do from time to time.
So...
And regardless of whether you like it or you understand it or not, I can tell you for sure they do talk in code.
And Trump can be tracked in even the numbers he uses when he makes a speech and refers to this or that or, you know, it's all code.
So, you know, it goes back to numerology and so on.
But what I want to say is a lot of people who haven't read the Patel Patriots series of devolution articles, of which again there are 20, won't maybe necessarily know that in the process of writing these articles and documenting every step along the way, what Patel is really doing is showing you how Trump and his team planned For devolution.
Planned, in other words, that they would be...
He would not win.
That he would lose the election because it would be stolen.
And that then he had to have a plan of how he would get back into office.
How he would save the country, in essence, while he was out of office and not let the whole thing...
Now, some people may say, well, we are being trashed.
And it certainly looks that way in some ways.
But it's very fascinating to read through the Patel articles and see how the plan was laid.
And it's called Continuity of Government.
So it's kind of a secret process.
But in some ways, Patel is actually outlining some of those steps.
And Trump had to fill in and Sign certain executive orders, certain, I think they call them preems, or it's a, you know, these initials, something like P, E, M, E, A, M, whatever these things are.
I don't remember what they're called, but They're like executive orders in which he laid the groundwork legally for him to be able to operate what is in essence, and I think in legalese, they actually use the word shadow government.
While he was, you know, in Florida, while he was out of office, during the time when Biden, who has basically been put in office, and this has been proven, and they have all the evidence of it, by satellite stealing and through these,
you know, these machines, By China, by the CCP, and that, you know, the Biden family, crime family, their links to Ukraine and to China is clear indication that, in essence, we have been invaded, attacked through a digital attack by China and by other governments, including the Vatican, including Germany and other countries.
In other words, that we're all in on the steel to make sure that Trump didn't get back into office in essence.
And you can now see why if you begin to pull back and look at the big picture, you're seeing that the biggest obstacle to the cabal and the New World Order was always going to be the United States, but specifically under Trump.
And he proved that the first day he got into office in 2016, he signed what was in essence an act to prevent pedophiles from Having bank accounts and various things.
So that was always one of his top priorities and has been all along, which is to what we call rescuing the children from the underground bases, from the pedophiles, exposing this whole pedophilia, adrenochrome network that is actually worldwide and so on and so forth.
So When you really look at the battle they're fighting, and they've been fighting it in secret so that their battles and underground bases, because people don't even acknowledge that there even are underground bases, was easy enough to hide from the public.
Now, people like me who are familiar with the secret space program and the underground bases and the fact that they've been there forever and, you know, run by the dark side cabal, And how the secret space program was taken over, infiltrated by the reptilians and the Nazis, and how that whole thing has come down, and I can talk in depth about that.
But what I'm basically, again, trying to paint a picture is that the White Hats have a certain way of operating that maybe hasn't made them as many friends as they were hoping.
But also one of their main reasons for operating the way they do in secret, not only to protect their families and so on, but is also to prevent civil war.
That in theory, it is said, That they use this, you can call it a computer, but I believe it may be an AI that doesn't even need a computer to operate from.
Some people call it looking glass, whether it's really looking glass as the way we understand it or not, or it's another version, God knows.
But at any rate, they game out, even on a daily basis, as to where they are in this game board against the cabal and against the And taking back our country and eventually the world.
And what I say in my latest article is the objective here, in case a lot of people don't realize that we have a really long-term objective which has to do with The Earth does need to be united because we are being sliced and diced and divided and conquered,
not just by the cabal, but by the ones who are running them, which are the various alien off-planet races, and also may include a few inner-earth races.
So that because we are so naive and because, you know, people just don't get it, they don't understand, they don't think galactically, even though we are in a galactic neighborhood, and of course always have been,
but much more so, as humans have woken up on this planet and gone out into space, we became part of a community that Of planets, and that can include as many as billions of Earth-like planets where certainly humanoid species exist.
So it's a big picture, and who runs the Earth, how the Earth is run, and how we conduct meetings with these off-planet, off-worlders is crucial to our destiny as humanity.
So You've got to understand that Trump and John F. Kennedy Jr., their vision and the Q vision involves what I'm talking about.
They don't talk about it, but it definitely involves this because they are as aware as I am of the What the secret space program has been up to in these underground bases for the last, since the 1930s at least.
And that has been building a military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about, of course.
But hidden from the populace so that we have no say in any deals they make with alien races about our future.
And that brings us to COVID and a genetic engineering through mRNA changing our DNA because that is an alien agenda adopted by the Illuminati.
And these players like Fauci and, you know, back in the day, Rumsfeld and, you know, the Neil Kahn's and so on and so forth, has all been building to creating what, you know, George Bush Sr.
was talking about, this new world order.
It's a new world alien order, if you want to call it that.
And so what I hope to do through my work is to prove this First of all, or at least point in the directions where people can begin to look to put these pieces together so that we don't continue to be as naive as the cabal would like you to stay, as dumbed down as they would like you to stay.
Now, the truth is out there, and it is not that hard to find once you start looking, going down the rabbit hole, as we say.
But I guess that's kind of like my podium speech, if you will, for why I'm even talking about all of this.
Well, actually, it ties into one of my questions, which is, I know the title of your book, The Rebel Gene, right?
I got that correct.
So...
My research, I've kind of come to understand that this is a conflict.
I mean, there's many different ways you can define it on many different levels, as you point out.
But a big part of it, this conflict between good and evil is rooted in genetics.
And more specifically, it's the genetic engineering by the Anunnaki, which you've been talking a lot about lately.
And more specifically, their downgrading of our DNA. But my understanding is that The damage to our genome is in the process of being reversed by the White Hats.
I've heard that.
And honestly, when I look around at all the sheep out there, it stands to reason that the assault on our etheric blueprint, so to speak, has led to so many people out there who are so dumbed down, so many people who refuse to look at the truth, so many people who refuse to wake up.
And as you point out, even within...
the patriot community of awakened folks, there are still many, many people out there who don't even look at exo-politics.
And yet, there are those of us who have the instinct to resist all of this and all of us awakened people who see the matrix for what it is.
So I guess my question is, how would you describe the rebel gene?
Because you wrote a whole book about it.
And why is it that only a relative few seem to really have been blessed with it and can see the big picture or want to look at the big picture?
Because I completely agree with you.
If you don't look at the exo-political angle...
And so often it does get overlooked, to say the least, if not ignored, or even completely dismissed.
And a little bit later I was going to ask you about another topic related to this, which is the false flag alien invasion, which is getting a lot of discussion as well.
But your thoughts on that?
Well, I mean, the rebel gene, I've talked about it in interviews before, but briefly, it relates to actually the Anunnaki and what they supposedly did, and this has been documented, first of all, in the Sumerian tablets,
which is talking about Anu as being the head of the Anunnaki, and Enki and Enlil as two brothers, or some call them half-brothers, and And being scientists, coming to this planet, and eventually Marduk is the son of Enki, but that's another side story.
But specifically coming here and doing exactly what they're doing now, earlier, only what they did is they actually took a part of our genome.
They put in what I call a frequency fence and In essence, to downgrade us so that we would, first of all, at the time they came in, we were living, I think it was possibly 500 to 1000 years.
So they shortened our lifespan and they cut off access.
And what they might have cut us off from is what is so-called junk DNA. So they dumbed us down all that time ago, put in a block.
It's not that everyone doesn't have access to what I call the rebel gene, but it is also because they haven't activated it.
And in order to do that, they have to raise their frequency through certain processes, etc.
And so back in the day, it was said that Enki was given Africa and Enlil was given the Middle East.
And according to this, which is more or less the Zacharias Sitchin and Sumerian tablet part of the story, says that Enki was the scientist and Anana, I think she's called Anana, was also a co-scientist.
And they, one thing with Enki is that he had sex with the human women.
So he That's how it's termed.
Now, whether he actually literally had sex with them or whether he gave his genetics to the humans in Africa that were Being, you know, genetically manipulated so that they got a certain amount of Anunnaki genes and that he allowed them the freedom to be a bit more self-determining about their future.
They had more freedom.
He allowed them to sort of go forth and multiply, etc.
Whereas Enlil was much more controlling and he Did not apparently donate his DNA, as far as we know, to that group of beings down there.
What he did was he limited their freedoms and basically Treated them more like slaves.
And what he generated was individuals that took orders well.
And they're called more or less administrators.
So there's these two parts of the population.
One that I say in essence Has the rebel gene and is born with it in essence and has that active.
And then those that are just following orders, and we call them maybe the middle managers a lot of times, you know, those that actually just follow orders without questioning their reality in any way.
And everyone knows people like that in their midst.
Or they may even have to see their parents like that.
So this is what we're stuck with on planet Earth, is this kind of weird dichotomy.
And you can certainly point these individuals out.
You either are somewhat rebellious, you question authority, or you don't.
And so that plays into the Democrat-Republican model, as it's currently sort of laid out, in which you get the Republicans being more independent thinkers and you get the Democrats being what we're calling sort of communistic in their approach to reality at this time.
And they're really big on censorship, and they're really big on trying to shoot you up with everything under the sun and allowing this whole rollout to happen with the New World Order.
And that's because they are middle manager, mentally, administrators.
They don't question reality.
They just go along with the program.
So this is, you know, a very important, I don't know, key concept right now to understanding the Why we're having such a weird kind of split in terms of the earth and in terms of humans and their perceptions and how important it factors into this war of worlds that we are now thrown into.
We've always been part of it, but are consciously now actively part of it.
And I mean, even look, even disclosure, this gets into the alien question that you followed up with, which is the false flag alien invasion idea.
The Pentagon, for better or worse, has been gradually leaking the most super cleansed, you know, Tic Tac reports and things about that, you know, with the Nimitz and so on.
In other words, carefully dismantling Cleansed and packaged disclosure items about these other, you know, craft coming from somewhere else off planet.
So that has even started to, you know, they're pushing that scenario more and more.
Part of the reason actually goes back to something that Wernher von Braun said, a Nazi, and he was not a good guy, contrary to the Sort of cleansed image that he projected.
He was a Nazi who allowed, you know, a lot of, well, he was working in the secret space program in Germany, allowing tons of prisoners to die on his watch and under his command.
But coming over and working for NASA, cleansing his image and all that, he said that, you know, the final sort of frontier, the final enemy will be Saying that there are, you know, visitors from outer space that we're dealing with that are invading.
So he tried to make it out as if it was fake, but in reality, the invasion of ETs and beings from other planets actually was jump-started in many ways by the interaction of the beings from Aldebaran With Maria Orsic and the Nazis at the time, that actually gave them a jump start in their own secret space program.
That then came over to us when we recruited them after the war, which they never really lost, per se, but just changed sides, if you want to say it that way.
And that some of the Nazi scientists in paperclip went to Britain, Some went to Russia, and a lot of them came to the United States.
Some went down to Argentina, and certainly some of them are down in Antarctica in a Nazi base called New Berlin, for example.
So...
This is a large story, but it's actually when you start following the clues, and actually all you have to do is watch my interviews with whistleblowers on my Project Camelot that I've been doing for the last 17 years, and you will get all of this story there, because every single whistleblower I've ever interviewed talks about these things I'm talking about here.
And on top of that, I've done a tremendous amount of research on the whistleblowers and on the various topics we're talking about here.
And some of that research is in my book, Rebel Gene.
Excellent.
Well, let me ask you a question about the alien invasion, because you did lay out a good portion of the argument there, or the conversation, I should say.
But my understanding is that the cabal had intended on using Project Blue Beam satellites to stage this fake alien invasion as a false flag to deceive us into accepting their new world order, basically.
And I've also heard that if it was actually carried out, it might even be several cities that are attacked in the process.
But I've also heard in my research that the White Hats have taken control of these satellites and that the Cabal doesn't really have the capacity to run an operation like this.
So what's your take on that or what's your intel on that?
Do they still have the capacity to run that type of operation on us?
Well, let me say that Space Force was a public face of the secret space program that Trump initiated and that they are definitely sort of front and center in part of the takeover of our secret space program by the good guys.
And that is in part why Trump is also...
Commander in Chief, that the military, even after allowing Biden to be sworn in, actually did have a secret ceremony with Trump.
Swearing him in.
And that's part of the devolution series, whether or not...
I'm not sure whether Patel, because I haven't read all of it yet, refers to that.
But that's a very rare...
Juan Osalvin has talked about that, you know, multiple times in his various broadcasts.
And there are others as well.
This is very common knowledge at this point.
So...
Understanding that the secret space program, which in essence there are a few secret space programs, India claims to have one, but that one would go under, would be subordinate to the United States.
The Brits work hand in hand with us in the secret space program.
The five eyes are supposedly all aligned, although recently Canada became on a questionable status with regard to that, although it comes and goes.
So I don't know where they're at at this moment.
I do know that Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards, who grew up in the secret space program, whose father was also working and his grandfather in the secret space program.
So he has a tremendous amount of knowledge about it and the background behind it.
And by the way, Sean, Sean, Sean David Morton has written a book called Sands of Time, which has several books to it, as I say, which is all about the secret space program, how it originated Area 51 and, you know, yada, yada, how it originated Area 51 and, you know, yada, yada, all of that.
So and it came from a whistleblower, not it wasn't just born out of Sean's imagination.
So it's based on real testimony from a real whistleblower who was running the secret space program, the story goes.
So back in the day.
So to explain that in a certain sense, the false flag alien invasion is actually dependent, at least on it happening to some degree, on how whether the cabal stays in power or or gets taken down by the White on how whether the cabal stays in power or or gets
And we're kind of right in the middle of this war in which going into the underground bases, taking over those underground cities, And, you know, and bastions of our military is a huge endeavor.
And quite frankly, it may be the last frontier of this war, where the war is going to have to be fought, okay, is in a sense, within our own Country within our own military industrial complex.
But I can get back to that in a minute.
So I do want to say that I've been talking about this sort of, I call it a fake real alien invasion.
The reason I call it that is because at the same time when they would be trying to do this Project Bluebeam, as it used to be called, Fake alien invasion.
There are real so-called aliens, and many of them races here, interacting with us on a daily basis.
And some of those races are very Anti-human.
In other words, they don't like us.
In some cases, they actually are invading us, and in some cases, they want to get rid of us altogether.
In some cases, they want to do business with us.
Some cases, they're friendly, and they're working with us to save us from the dark side, from the negative ETs.
So it's a huge war of worlds, as I say, and I wrote in my latest article.
So I've been talking about this War of Worlds now for at least the last five years, because originally in Camelot, I did a lot of interviews.
I wasn't such a spokesperson as I've become.
After You know, sort of 17 years of being immersed in this.
And, you know, so about, I don't know, 12 years ago, I started to, you know, I wrote my writing my book and started speaking and so on and so forth.
So because I have in my brain, thousands of interviews that With whistleblowers and various other individuals and other investigations that I've done over the years.
So it's, you know, basically I think my mission at this time to connect all the dots together in a way that people can begin to understand what's going on, because it really does have a long history now of secrecy.
And I'm not the only one doing this, of course.
So some of my colleagues are good at Some are disclosing information and some have actually joined the dark side.
Some are giving you some truth and some lies.
You know, so it's kind of all over the map as to the various other people out on the sort of circuit at this time.
But I can tell you that, okay, now I'm going to go back to 2019, September of 2019.
So it's before the COVID situation started.
Randy Kramer, who is a self-called super soldier, who is also a Marine and still reports to his Marine commander, came forward many years ago.
I interviewed him, etc.
So you can see my interview with him back in the day.
But the bottom line is that in September of 2019, we were both at a conference near Yelm, not in Yelm, but near Yelm, Washington, a very, very small conference in which we were speakers,
and he went on stage with his, you know, Marines standing, watching, and basically delivered a message, if you will, from the Marines, from the secret space program, saying to the audience that the military was sick of this huge divide between what is,
in essence, an underground rogue Secret space program where the individuals who work in it sign disclosure, non-disclosure agreements in which they can't even tell their families what they do.
That they're living 10,000 years in advance of what surface earthlings are living.
And that we are going not only into this solar system but intergalactic and traveling out beyond.
But we do it By the way, by going interdimensional, not by using a space rocket.
Okay, this is all nonsense.
So, you know, people that object to it and say, oh, we can't get to the moon because you have to go through the, you know, whatever belt.
The point being is that there's so many misconceptions about what's really going on in the technologies that we don't have access to that come back to the days of Tesla.
Who was influenced by ETs and given certain key information, etc., etc.
So if you can understand that what the White Hats have to deal with is an organization that for all intents and purposes, at least on Earth, has been run in good measure by the cabal.
And that means that their modus operandi and their Plans for the future of humanity has involved what is in essence creating a humanity 3.0,
which is the building of a transhuman super soldier-like army to go out and conquer other planets, because it's a might makes right kind of mentality.
And this is what people like Hillary and a lot of these cabal that think they're doing something wonderful for humanity are really all about.
They are all about creating this Humanity 3.0.
They want to get rid of the old, of course.
The ones who can't handle it, if you're not strong enough, they want to get rid of you.
So that's why this COVID experiment was not only allowed to be rolled out, but it was planned.
And it's still rolling out.
It is an agenda to change us, to make us, from their idea of what a human should be, To be able to be bigger, faster, stronger, live longer, and to basically also take orders.
Mark Richards says it's to create a population of what he calls passive super soldiers.
In essence, we'll have a lot of abilities that will be turned on and off based on the AI that controls us.
If you want to look at that.
That's for the ones that live.
Now, That is part of their overall agenda.
So if you don't understand that, then, you know, when people talk about the cabal being all about greed, and they're after more money, this is not.
It's not even the adrenochrome highway they're really after, which, of course, they want longevity.
But in the end, that's just the beginnings of a longevity plan.
If you saw the movie Fringe, for example, you'll know that there's a parallel Earth.
Which is more negatively oriented, in which you can cross over and actually get a duplicate of yourself in a more negative environment.
They have been bringing some of those people back over here for the ones that have On this side, the cabal members who have had problems, who died too early or had health problems, etc.
So I know I'm packing a lot into my answer here, but I want you to understand.
So what happened when Randy Kramer went on stage?
He addressed the audience and he said, the military industrial complex in essence, but the military specifically, Is sick of this sort of split on planet Earth.
They basically want to out all their amazing technology that they live with every day.
And also this dumbed down amount of humans that they have to deal with.
They want to bring it all forward, but they can't do it.
Under the current sort of situation we live on planet Earth, with humans that don't even know ETs even exist, let alone visit us and walk every day in the halls of the Pentagon, as Bob Dean would say.
So What they did was they came up with a solution, and he said their solution was to conduct a fake war with aliens, even though there are plenty of aliens really here.
He even said that collateral damage of about a million humans would die in this fake alien invasion.
And that what would happen after the debris settled is they would look like the victors because they would win the battles with the fake aliens that they couldn't necessarily win if they used real aliens.
So, do you understand?
Most of this war would be televised.
So they would, in essence, sort of fake you out, and you would see battles, and you would see them win, and the aliens.
And then we got into a discussion at this conference about, okay, what group of fake aliens are they going to use or try to use as actors, in essence?
And it was going to be some...
If you follow, you know, Ready Player One or the Halo series, you look at the different sort of books and games that are out there that they're teaching young people.
It's always, they're always fighting these aliens that look like bugs.
That's the only kind of thing I can, insectoids maybe is a better word.
And so in theory, it wouldn't be the little grace that everyone knows about because those are, first of all, there's too many different kinds.
And second of all, they're all, you know, they're all known touchy-feely and they're not really something they can have a really good battle with because they don't battle in the conventional sense.
So this is all, you know, what they're planning.
So So he said, Randy Kramer said, so he said from September 2019, within three years they were going to do it.
And I have already made several videos about this, warning people that actually we're getting close to the deadline.
And indeed we are, because September 2019 to September 2022 is three years.
So Unless he was wrong and they've changed their mind or they've had their mind changed by all the things that have happened since September of 2019.
Or perhaps we're right on schedule and the next thing is this fake real alien invasion.
And again, why I say that is because starting with our interview with Clifford Stone in the early days of Camelot, when he said there were 57 alien races visiting our planet, To hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of other races that are now currently visiting our planet.
And that doesn't include the fact that Mark said there are at least four alien AI invading our planet right now and nine human-derived AI. But the four alien AI that are negatively oriented towards humans And that was actually two years ago when he told me that.
So it could be more by now.
So when you look at aliens, you can't just look at aliens.
You have to also look at the AI that they have, in many ways, created.
And in some cases, they are AI, of course.
But what Mark said is that any space-vearing nation creates an AI. In order to go into outer space.
So we're creating an AI. We're going into outer space.
You can certainly see that AIs begin as a mirror of the beings who create it.
From there they grow.
And when I asked Mark Richards, what does alien AI feed upon?
What does it need to grow?
And he said, information.
So that's really fascinating, I think.
And I have, you know, I have 12 interviews with Mark Richards in which we kind of discuss these various things.
There's also, for those who've been watching Camelot and paying attention at all to anything out there, you know about the Nazca alien discovery, in which...
That goes back, I think it's a few thousand years or whatever, but those particular little alien bodies that were discovered had these little built-in breastplates that basically indicated that they were AI, that they were remotely controlled AI invaders back in those days.
And because of that, a whistleblower that I am in contact with told me he was a consultant on that story and that basically the real truth about that story will never come out.
The reason he said never is because it's bad enough, I guess, from their point of view to understand that we have aliens, positive and negative, And inner earth aliens as well, if you want to call them that.
Whatever, different cultures that have stayed away from surface earth.
But that's changing now too.
And basically we're dealing with both aliens and alien AI. And some of those alien AI come from cultures that have Since died or destroyed their own planet, and that all that is left of that species is their alien component that has then left and continued to travel the multiverse,
you know, basically eternally, or what might be thought of that as eternal.
So this is what we're dealing with.
Now, this brings us around to COVID. And I hope I've answered the sort of fake, real alien invasion thing and that how, because we're visited by so many aliens and some are really against the negative, you know, secret space program, they are not going to allow It's not like you can put something on stage and conduct it and no one else is going to do anything about it.
They're not going to stand on the sidelines and let this happen.
You can appreciate that.
And that gets into, you know, many different levels of things.
And so my point in also the fact that we sort of in the long game, what Trump and the White Hats are looking at is who is going to run this earth?
While we're dealing with all of these invasionary species, some of whom really don't like us and want to take us over, and they're an even more daunting enemy than the cabal, than the human version, okay?
And they have infiltrated the cabal as well.
So my point is that if people don't wake up quickly and realize that divide and conquer is always the way, That a dominating species will come in and secretly infiltrate, influence, and invade in every way possible.
And it's not always going to be, you know, right in your face.
So this is what we're victims of right now, if you want to call us victims.
We're not really victims.
As far as I'm concerned, all of this, this sort of Universe that we're dealing with, multiverse, challenges, invasion, the level that Earth and her people have reached at this time,
is that because our consciousness has risen and rises so quickly lately, and that's also to do with also energy coming into this solar system and we're moving into energetic spaces, That are opening up more and more of the portals and sending energy through that's raising consciousness automatically.
The young children, what might be called star seeds, contributing to the rising of consciousness because all they have to do is be in a room.
Anyone who's the least but enlightened walks into a room of relatively unenlightened people will have a Sort of through osmosis will begin to affect those other individuals and raise the frequency.
That's part of the reason for the social distancing and why they don't want you to get together in groups, etc.
The last thing they want is for you to realize what you're capable of.
And that is, we were told in Camelot many years ago, the biggest secret.
Even bigger than all the alien invasion stuff I'm talking about.
So we're talking about the fact that we can generate scalar waves, that we can actually change this planet.
Just by getting together and unifying and all understanding the realities that I'm talking about.
And that this indeed is what is scaring them, scaring the shit out of them.
And also, understand that the White Hats cannot go forward without us.
And neither can the dark side.
So that when it all comes down, if you gel it all down, you have to understand the reason stealing the election is so important, lying to you, you know, censoring you, doing this to you, doing that to you.
Next horseman from the apocalypse supposedly is starvation.
The reason they keep throwing everything at you is to dumb you down, stop you, and to get you down to a lower level vibration so that you won't continue to rise up like a beach ball that gets pushed down into the water and then...
You know, comes up even higher.
This is consciousness on planet Earth right now.
And so I don't think you should despair over how many people are still unenlightened because the fact of the matter is, is that the game, you know, that's being played is all on our side.
We are going to win no matter how you slice it or dice it.
It's just a matter of when.
And how?
And so, it's in us.
And, you know, a lot of people that are so religious love to quote, we are made in the image of the Creator.
And I have to laugh over that, because when they say that, they don't seem to realize what that means, even though Jesus is At least the part of the Bible that he supposedly said, talks about, you shall do even more than I. I know those are not the right words.
You know, so in essence, the fact is that we have amazing powers in this body that does not need to be transformed into a cyber transhuman body.
In order to do the things we're capable of, what we need is to waken our sleeping DNA to activate that part of our brain that has, you know, not been used, what do they say, 90%?
To waken that all up.
And this thing is going to spiral way out of the control of the Illuminati and even of alien beings because...
We are not only...
We are the alien beings.
We are comprised...
Our genome has been interfered with going back centuries and centuries and centuries by a lot of the visitors.
And Ashian and Dean, Voyager books that are on my front page of my website...
If you want to read them, they're quite dense.
A lot of people don't have trouble following it all because it's much more complex than the Bible ever was.
But the bottom line is it documents all of the invading species and the various renditions and changing of our DNA so that some of us are much more aligned with certain of the alien invaders than we are with other humans.
Be that as it may, that's what we're dealing with.
We're dealing with a war of worlds, both on and off this planet and under the planet.
Wow.
Wow, that's a lot of amazing information.
So let me just ask you, I think, one more question, because we've been on for a while.
I don't want to take up too much of your time.
And quite frankly, in your responses, they've been so...
As you put it, you packed a lot into them, but they actually addressed a lot of the questions I was going to ask you, so it worked out really well.
But on the topic of the alien invasion, I think maybe we could...
Sort of round out with this and maybe some final thoughts.
If we are to see some sort of, as you put it, a fake real, is that how you said it?
Fake real alien invasion.
If something like that were to unfold, would that, how would you interpret that?
Would you interpret that as the cabal really being in a position of control?
Or would you interpret it as the White Hats allowing it to happen?
I mean, because I think a lot of folks are going to be asking themselves that question, if and when something like this or whether it's that or whether it's some other major event that I think all of us can sense is coming.
At some point, I think a lot of people are speculating this summer we're going to see something major.
Who knows?
But if and when that event does occur, how are you going to interpret that in terms of who's in control and the status of the war and whether or not the White Hats are really in control behind the scenes?
And do you believe that to be the case?
Because you've said that you believe the war to be very much right in the thick of it right now.
And there's, of course, a lot of folks out there who are saying, well, the White Hats are in full control.
I mean, it's been said a lot of different ways.
I'm sure you've heard it all.
But how would you interpret that if a major event like that takes place?
Well, let me say there's sort of two things that I want to say about this.
And first of all, this...
Invasion, because COVID is a concoction, is a bioweapon that was designed by an alien AI, first of all.
And that the scientists that have, you know, manufactured the bioweapon were just, in essence, if you want to look at it this way, following orders.
And that it came down from what I understand to be, in essence, the greys, who are sort of the lower-level reptilians, That are doing a lot of things on Earth anyway, such as the abductions and so on and so forth.
And that has probably come from a gray ET, alien AI. But that gray ET reports to a reptilian and that reptilian reports to a Draco.
And those beings are reporting to an AI, a larger AI. So it kind of goes up a hierarchy.
So we have already seen the beginnings of that invasion, if you will.
And it has been, obviously, through what people would say is this sort of concoction that involves graphene oxide as the building blocks connected with spike proteins that then attach themselves to the graphene.
And do something which people don't really understand, which has to do with nano.
And nano jumps.
And I've been told this by a NASA scientist.
In essence, because it's so small, it's in essence in the quantum realm.
It basically doesn't see the blood-brain barrier as a barrier at all.
It can create matter.
Out of millions of nano.
And that means all different, not just graphene oxide, which is a component that involves, I believe, silver with certain other things.
So, you know, and I'm not a scientist, so I can't tell you the exact information.
But the bottom line is that they have created this invasionary solution, and then they've gotten convinced through the mind control going through the press that's owned by the cabal to get you to take it willingly.
And by doing that, they escape what some people might call the karmic blowback that they would otherwise experience because you're too dumb to know better.
But that doesn't escape you from being responsible.
Besides, humans are actually psychic and precogs.
In fact, we never would have made it this far if we weren't, if you really think about it.
This is how we have saved ourselves time and time again, is because intuitively we sense the danger.
We sense the oppressor.
We sense that we're going to be Caught, sliced, diced, we are prey on this planet.
That's part of the scenario we're born into.
So, but as far as a scenario that involves this fake alien invasion, and whether it'll come to the fore, There's several things operational, and that involves even the White Hats and who are really the White Hat individuals.
Who is Trump at this time?
Who is Trump?
Trump listening to, what off-planet race is he listening to, and what off-planet race is running the AI that they are listening to, while the cabal is listening to another off-planet race AI. And in essence, it's a battle between two AIs, if you want to think about it like that.
So, you know, it's not a simple answer.
And even 107 says to me, don't, oh please don't talk about the alien thing.
The reason he doesn't want me to talk about that right now is because he kind of figures that people have enough on their plate and they can't barely deal with what's in their face right now, let alone understand the bigger picture.
I have a different point of view on that.
I believe that you can handle the truth.
In fact, you must handle the truth because it behooves all of us that the wiser our friends and neighbors are, the more awakened they are, the stronger we are, and the more chance that we're going to pull through this with a lot less, let's say, collateral damage, death and destruction.
I guess that the bottom line is that if you understand what the White Hats have been up against, in a sense, they're our advanced team.
They came from us.
They are the patriots, and we are the patriots.
So we are their team, if you will.
What I have often sort of argued with them about is tactics.
Is because they don't use us.
They don't educate the rest of us as well as they could be as far as I'm concerned.
Okay, they did do the Q thing and the Q drops and that was a great platform by which to educate and reach a certain portion of us, but people that were not technically inclined and Also, who were deceived by the dark side into thinking that it was a quote-unquote psyop.
Everything's a psyop.
You know, anything you think about and do is a psyop in a certain sense.
But if you understand that it was meant To communicate in the only way that the Trump team had because they knew that the mainstream media was owned.
Okay?
And even the alternative in many cases is limited, extremely limited, and even they try to censor.
We don't even know what Elon Musk is really doing in taking over Twitter.
Certainly he's going to have at hand the ability to Censor whatever he wants to censor.
Now, recently, I understand that first he said, oh, you know, freedom of speech, right, completely.
And now he's qualifying it by what's conventionally thought of as freedom of speech.
Well, I've been testing the waters over at Twitter and posting the kinds of things that I consider to be freedom of speech, which is way beyond the norm, as you can tell by listening to me.
And so...
I can hear some talking in the background, whatever that is.
I was just laughing.
I thought that was funny.
Okay, no worries.
So, you know, in other words, and who is Elon anyway?
Elon is apparently been written about in a book, just like Trump was, I guess, many years ago that someone sent me this information about There's a book that was written, I don't know, 100 years ago or something, about a character called Elon, who was going to be president of Mars.
That was a book that they told me about.
And Elon definitely has cybernetic powers.
I would call it what appears to be some cybernetic attributes.
And we do know that he loves electricity.
So, you know, electromagnetics is really where it's at.
He is totally working with the secret space program, always has been.
He would never have been as successful as he is if they hadn't allowed him to do what he's done.
And he stayed well within the parameters in his so-called explorations of space with his rockets.
Using rockets to begin with is insane.
So he's kind of Been what you call a limited hangout already, if you think about it.
He hasn't really told you about Tesla tech.
He's called his car Tesla.
He's hinted, but he's still well within the parameters of control of the, you know, of one of their little, you know, if your rat's in a cage, he's one of the rats that gets a little more freedom, but he's still limited.
So this is what we're dealing with.
You know, the whistleblowers that I talk to are talking about technologies that are way beyond anything Elon Musk.
Is he, you know, is talking about.
Whether he knows about them, he probably does.
If I know about them, he probably does.
But you get the picture.
So what are we dealing with here on Earth?
And this is, again, gets back to my point.
We have become so infiltrated because we are already so divided.
The one thing good about some of these things that have happened, even like the COVID thing, is that we have unified in large numbers on certain principles.
And this is where you get the people hitting the streets with this incredible energy and this unity.
And that raises consciousness.
And that, in and of itself, is a wonderful thing.
You have seen, and this is where the dividing has become even more accentuated, if you will, since the whole COVID challenge came forward, in which a good portion of us really refused to wake up and refused to see the danger.
What can I say?
This is the future we're looking at.
Do not be deceived.
We are dealing with clones.
We are dealing with a lot of the technology that the secret space programs have been using and dealing with and faking us out with for, I don't even know how, you know, 40, 50 years at least, and probably longer than that, maybe more 70.
So, Understanding that this time is all about revealing the truths to wake you up, so we have to continue to awaken each other.
We can also not allow the White Hats to simply make our decisions for us.
As we move along this trajectory more and more, and I've said this before, You notice that Trump has not left the fishbowl in terms of actually, he never talks to people like me.
Juan won't even talk to people like me, in fact.
I mean, I did one interview, and he won't talk to me since then as far as publicly.
Luckily, he talked to me off the record, and then they've shut that down about three, four months ago.
So now it's radio silence with him as well.
But the thing is that they have certain tactics.
They're made up of certain individuals that grew up in it.
A lot of them are lots older, and a lot of them have a certain paradigm in mind.
And they...
Why didn't Trump, you know, go outside the box ever since he went down to Florida and invite all the alternative journalists?
He let Juan do that, JFK Jr.
So he did...
He let sort of a branch of his, you know, tree, the White Hat tree, deal with us.
But that's been extremely limited.
Because if you notice...
When Juan, when JFK Jr.
does do a supposed interview, he doesn't really do an interview, he lectures.
And he picks people that are not on the level, with all due respect, that I am, and others like me, that could ask him the really good questions that we could be having this kind of discussion with.
You see what I'm saying?
He doesn't do that because they have an agenda, because they're thinking along the wartime mentality where you're in the midst of war, in the midst of battle, you follow orders.
I mean, I haven't talked to Paladin for two years because I'm not a...
Soldier that follows orders, you know, and I question them.
How dare I question?
I mean, when I started talking to Juan in the early days, he basically said the same thing.
Exactly the paladin said, how dare you question the White Hat plan?
You know, how dare you question the White Hat's AI or the generals?
Like these people, they have this mentality that That is very much about this male-dominated platform of thinking about the world, and that's part of the problem.
So, in essence, what I'm kind of saying to people here is that, yes, the White Hats are incredibly brave, incredible Soldiers working on our behalf every day in life-threatening experiences and going through incredible battles on our behalf.
But they need us.
They don't just want us.
They need us.
And the more of us that get involved...
And do what I'm doing here, which is to basically question if they see something going on and to also question the timeline.
Because what are we doing?
We're sitting here waiting to be starved to death, in essence.
And maybe that'll change between now and the midterms.
But again, there are indications that while we have a government in exile, while Trump is sort of a fail-safe keeping us from going nuclear with Russia because he's talking to Putin.
Putin, there's evidence that Putin had a phone call with Biden and basically told him, you're president of nothing.
Hung up on him and will not have a conversation with Biden clone, which is basically what he is, a failing clone.
He's also played by a number of actors, apparently including Jim Carrey.
So understanding this game that's being played and understanding the give and take of the battles going on between The good guys and the bad guys.
Those are very real battles and they are continuing.
And how the future looks, well, we're going to see, but we're also going to make it.
We have the ability and the command to make it, to create our reality.
And so if we take that seriously and go forward with that in mind, then I think that We may have a more positive future than we even believe is possible right now.
Beautifully said.
Absolutely.
And I think that's actually a great place to end on.
It's a great note to end on.
You've said an awful lot.
Is there anything you wanted to add before we part ways?
Hopefully we'll get together again soon.
I always enjoy our conversations.
Yeah.
No, I think, you know, you always ask great questions and, you know, great bouncing off points.
Yeah, I don't.
I think I've covered quite a bit here.
And I know there's a lot that needs to be filled in and understood, you know.
And I certainly, again, I'm citing, again, a whistleblower testimony, a whole document that's hundreds of pages long that was given to Lin Wood and published by, I think, another guy.
I don't have his name in front of me.
And then, you know, there's also the Patel Patriot articles that are substantially backed by a lot of documentation, so there's reason to take them seriously.
And, you know, you can also educate yourself.
You may find Wano Salvin, for example, long-winded, and he hasn't been right, or something is this what a lot of people like to say.
He hasn't been right yet, okay?
Maybe he's been right so far on certain things, like Trump is our commander-in-chief, and he said that, and that the military has sworn him in.
And Putin is dealing with Trump.
He's not dealing with Biden and things of this nature.
So he's Juan is also limited in what he can and can't say in the midst of battle, so to speak.
But I would also, again, as I have done, urge everyone to take this seriously, to look at the future of humanity, to understand we are already invaded.
We have been invaded.
Time and time again.
And we have good and negative ETs here.
There are challenges for humanity so that we grow a pair, if in essence, you know, so that we develop.