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March 4, 2022 - Project Camelot
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MICHAEL SHRIMPTON: SHORT VERSION : UKRAINE AND RETURN OF TRUMP
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I have Michael Shrimpton with me.
And he is a, you got to explain to me this, but a former barrister, a barrister, English barrister.
And he's also, I would call you an intel operative, but maybe that's too strong a word.
So, Michael, why don't you give everyone your background and also talk about, you know, you being a writer for Veterans Today and so on.
Okay, well, good afternoon, everybody.
It's certainly in California.
It's afternoon, of course, it's evening in the UK where I am.
Technically, I am a former barrister.
I was disgracefully disbarred in 2019 following a completely bogus prosecution, which is the subject of an application at the moment for a royal pardon.
That is after the head of the GRU's Later, sadly died.
General Igor Sergan warned me through cutouts, so he had complete deniability, in 2012 about a Russian nuclear warhead that had been stolen by the Germans and smuggled into the UK. The warhead was there.
I was done for a bomb hoax.
Which is a bit odd, because normally with a bomb hoax, there's no bomb.
In this case, there was a bomb.
It was safely recovered by the National Nuclear Security Administration.
I ended up being disbarred.
Therefore, I am a former barrister.
I'm certainly not an intelligence operative.
I'm too well known to any use in the field.
The only wig I have is my barrister's wig, which I have not yet put on eBay since I'm Expecting to be formally cleared and paid two million pounds in compensation at some point this year.
Right.
Now, let me actually ask you this.
Let's say that Biden family is as they are starting to be.
All the evidence starts coming out.
He is actually being, in essence, taken down.
He's no longer going to be in charge.
I'm not sure at what state would we go into the military being in charge of our country, whether things would go back to Trump, the rightful winner, or...
What are your thoughts on all of that?
Because that sounds like an injury.
But it's also what I'm saying.
If Biden and the Biden family, who have huge dealings with China and are, in essence, he is, you could say, put in place by China, if you want to argue that.
Then if you take him down, then in a sense, China is losing their guy in Washington.
They may want a provocation at that point to actually push the matter.
What are your thoughts on that kind of scenario?
All right, several points there.
Firstly, yes, the Chinese would be concerned about Biden being forced out of office.
If Biden were to be forced out of office, and that's one of the reasons why the Chinese are bound to be worried about the Russian move against the Ukraine.
The Chinese are not happy.
The Chinese are not happy at the moment, because the Chinese can see as well as I can.
Oh dear, this could turn out very badly for us.
We...
Biden could well be forced to resign.
I think he will be.
My prediction is that he will be forced out.
Then, under the US Constitution, Kamala Harris becomes president.
There is talk about her being shifted into the Supreme Court, which would be grossly unsuited, with respect.
That's not happened.
Kamala Harris becomes president, not a very credible president, but then, you know, Gerald Ford was president of the United States.
The fact that you're not credible doesn't mean to say that you don't end up as president.
LBJ was a totally uncouth man who was involved in the murder of his predecessor, but that didn't stop him becoming the President of the United States.
Kamala Harris becomes President.
The Democratic Party, not just the Biden family, the whole Democratic Party, including President Obama, get implicated in this very deep mess involving the Ukraine.
And that's without the Russians going public with COVID bioweapons laboratories in the Ukraine.
That's going to be an awful.
The optics of that are just awful.
Right.
The midterms are coming up in November and the Democrats sink.
There's potential here for the Democrats to sink so badly.
And I think that's why the Russians have signed their new for the spring.
The implications will take a few months to work their way through.
It will take a few weeks for the Russians to defeat the Ukrainians.
It will then take a few weeks for the intelligence deal to come out.
It will take a few weeks for Biden to go down.
By the time that Biden resigns, we're well into the midterm election campaign, which is going to get into action.
August, September, the election will be in full swing.
And we then see a Democratic meltdown in November.
This is entirely possible.
If there's a meltdown, if the Republicans are then in a position to impeach President Harris...
Then we see a possible route for the restoration of President Trump.
Now, my pathway to President Trump resuming, I call him president because I always call former American presidents president, even if they're not in office.
The pathway I predict for President Trump to resume office is this.
The Russians beat the Ukrainians.
The Russians go public with the intelligence yield on Biden family's dealings with Ukraine, the biolabs, and so on.
Biden resigns.
Kamala Harris becomes president.
The Democrats go into meltdown and lose not just control of the Senate, but...
End up controlling less than a third in the Senate.
The January 2023, the Republicans are then in a position to impeach President Harris, because Harris is implicated in the November.
She's not implicated in the Ukraine in particular, and she probably doesn't know anything about bio labs in Ukraine, but she's implicated, I'm assuming they're there, and I think they are, she's implicated in the Stealing of the election in November 2020.
She must have known what was going on.
And she is, after all, the vice president.
The vice presidents are usually ignorant, but she can't have been that ignorant.
So the Republicans would have every justification to impeach President Harris and any vice president she nominated, because he or she would be implicated in this mess.
And you would then have the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who would be the new Speaker, So the new Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives becomes President in the way that Gerald Ford became President after Watergate.
And this is the Biden controversy.
We're talking stuff which is actually bigger than Watergate.
I mean, that's without the problem.
It's much bigger.
It's got to put my laps to one side, but stealing an election, I mean, the old person Nixon did was sanctioned over a raid on the Democratic Party headquarters in the Watergate Hotel.
It was a burglary in a hotel.
It wasn't stealing the entire election.
He wasn't rigging an election.
And Nixon, I never met Nixon, but he's certainly, my dear old friend, General Vernon Walters was an advisor to Nixon and back-channeled for him and I've met several people in my career as an intelligence specialist who had personal one-to-one cleanings at Nixon.
It wasn't quite as bad as people make out.
And Henry Kissinger.
I mean, obviously Henry and I have had dealings, and Henry's a nice man.
He's with the opposition, but he's still a nice man, and I make no moans about that.
He's a gentleman.
Henry, of course, was President Nixon's National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.
And Okay, but I don't want you to go too far off the topic, because you're actually...
So we're at this juncture where you think, and this would be 2023, so Kamala Harris is basically impeached, and then at that point there's some kind of opening.
opening, you think it would be the Speaker of the House, which would be a Republican Speaker of the House, correct?
A Republican Speaker of the House, who then appoints his own Vice President, and the Vice President he appoints is President Trump.
So Donald Trump becomes, the pathway I predict for Donald Trump to get back into power before 2024 is that he becomes Vice President, and then the Speaker of the House stands down.
Because he can't...
President Trump, there's no way you can appoint a private citizen as president.
The Constitution doesn't allow for that.
If you impeach the president, then there's a line of succession.
And President Trump He's appointed vice president for, let's say, 24 hours.
The president gets, you know, the new president, the Speaker of the House, ex-Speaker of the House, becomes president, gets a ride in Air Force One, gets a nice dinner in the White House, nice breakfast.
And then with the thanks to the incoming Vice President Donald Trump, he stands down.
And then Donald Trump is sworn in as president.
And we have Donald Trump.
As president in the spring of 2023.
So in another year, we could have Donald Trump back in the White House.
He would then be able to, if I read the Constitution correctly, he would then be able to stand in 2024, or the two term, you have to serve two full terms, and a I haven't got the American Constitution in front of me, so if you're a constitutional lawyer and you're listening to this, I'm an American constitutional lawyer, don't jump all over me because I'm not...
No, I'm actually...
Brad, that this is actually legitimate, that he would be able to even...
He would be able to.
Serving a part term would not prevent him standing for election in November 2024.
He couldn't stand in 2028 unless the Constitution was amended.
Obviously, the U.S. Constitution was amended after Roosevelt so that nobody could serve more than two full terms, but it's two full terms, not...
One term plus a bit of another president's term because the president happens to be corrupt and has been impeached following his short war between Russia and Ukraine.
So, yes, I see a pathway for Donald Trump being back in office.
Now, what I will say, and I passed a back-channel message only yesterday evening, having walked, I may tell you, I hope your listeners have been impressed by this, given that I'm just about to turn 65, and I'm not exactly, you know, a spring chicken.
I actually walked all the way from London Waterloo Station to the dinner, which was in Mayfair.
Because there was a tube strike in London yesterday.
But I met last night with a backchannel to a lovely old friend of mine called John Bolton.
You'll know who he is.
And I made the point that if President Trump gets back in in a year's time, he should put to one side his differences with John.
And I call him John John.
He should, not John John, but I call him John.
John, I'm sorry, who are you talking about?
Ambassador Bolton.
John Bolton, very nice man.
Oh, Bolton.
You're talking about Bolton.
Okay, it's the pronunciation of Bolton.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
John Bolton.
I pronounce his name the same way as we have a town in, there's a not Terribly attractive town north of Manchester called Bolton.
So I tend to pronounce John Bolton's surname in the same way.
I see.
The town in the north of England.
So what's your point about Bolton, John Bolton?
So then...
What are you thinking?
I tried to...
I urged the President...
The trouble was that I was relying on intermediaries with President Trump, and they turned out to be very, very unreliable.
I don't think...
I was never invited into the White House when Donald Trump was president.
I was desperately passing warnings to him during the election battle, and every intermediary I tried, including Nigel Farage and your friend, they all failed.
I never had Donald Trump's cell phone number or the ability to ring him.
I really needed to be able to speak to him in Mar-a-Lago and I really needed cell phone numbers and the Mar-a-Lago number in order to get messages through to him.
There were various meetings set up at Mar-a-Lago and intelligence generals were turning up and he was supposed to be briefed in on what I had about the Paris dossier that the French had given us after their bust up with the Germans, which had all the evidence that Trump needed to go to the Supreme Court and overturn the election which had all the evidence that Trump needed to go to I don't think any of these messages ever got through at all.
I see.
Well, there could be some people watching this now.
Donald Trump and I have never met.
I've sat down over warm fireplaces at hotels in winter in England with personal friends of President Trump and had discussions about getting messages through to him.
All of it failed.
And I was tried, even before he assumed office, from the time he'd won the election, I was trying to get a copy of Spy Hunter to him.
At least one copy of Spy Hunter went into Trump Tower.
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The Germans arranged with me.
It intercepted.
The last thing it wanted was Donald Trump finding out about the DVD, who eventually finished it for him in November 2020.
So I did try and persuade President Trump to appoint John Bolton as Secretary of State.
I think he should have been appointed as Secretary of State in January 2017.
I certainly was opposed to John Bolton being sacked, because John Bolton has a very fine-minded deed and is the outstanding candidate He's the outstanding Republican with knowledge of international affairs and he's intelligence literate and very competent.
And I would I didn't want him to be sacked, and I have urged and got a message through to John Bolton last night.
The email went through in the early hours of this morning, saying, look, I hope if President Trump gets back in, he will appoint you as Secretary of State.
And I hope that John and Donald will be able to fix their differences.
Now, Donald Trump has said some rude things about John Bolton, saying that John would have got America involved in a war.
In fact, he wouldn't have done because John was a Secretary of State.
John would have really deterred any bad actors out there from going to war with America because you don't mess with John Bolton.
John Bolton is not a warlike individual, but he understands how to stop wars.
He understands that strength stops wars.
CB Spectrum, you know, we all know that.
Okay, well, I appreciate...
Prepare for war.
Okay, so I appreciate your plug for John Bolton, but in order to wrap this up, what I'd like to do, because let's assume that certain members of even Trump's staff may be watching this.
They may be interested.
There may be reason to be interested.
Let's give you the platform here.
Do you want to say anything in particular that could be...
Make it to Trump.
John Bolton would be an outstanding choice of Secretary of State.
He would always give the president his true opinion.
One of the problems of the Trump administration was that a lot of the appointees were perfectly nice people, but they weren't particularly brilliant, and they were reluctant to give their true opinion.
As Secretary of State, you want an individual who is respected around the world, which John Bolton is, who is highly knowledgeable about international affairs, which John Bolton is, who is civilized, like George Shultz, for example, a friend of a friend, A friend of several friends.
A civilized individual because a secretary of state has to be a diplomat who is able to merit his case.
Understanding that you kind of made your point about that, is there anything else you would like?
Is that your only, sorry, is that your only plug that you want to make here?
No, not at all.
As Secretary of State, John Bolton ticks all the boxes.
I mean, I had a number of other policy proposals for President Trump.
One, strangely enough, is Amtrak, because I happen to have an Amtrak frequent traveller's card, and I think it would be the marvellous of President Trump.
He would...
It would considerably smooth the rough edges and improve his image.
If he were to commit more federal funds to Amtrak and to keep the Greens happy, it would appeal to a regime.
Well, there's a high-speed train that's actually supposed to be rolled out at some point.
Yeah, that's the sort of project.
Domestic politics, that's the sort of project I think President Trump, if he gets back in, We'll be well advised to support better public transport so that you don't have cities clogged with cars.
There are so many policy proposals that Donald Trump could have pushed when he was in office the first time around, but didn't, in areas where he has no expertise with respect in public transport, for example, and urban planning.
Yes, all right, he's a property developer, so he has a limited amount of expertise in terms of putting buildings up.
Well, from what I understand, his first, you know, the first four years of his administration, I think they held back greatly, planning on the second four years that obviously haven't happened.
But they did make a lot of progress, apparently.
Exactly.
And he talks about that in every speech he gives.
So I don't want to belabor those points.
He thought he would win the election in 2020.
He was planning on being in office for eight years.
But because nobody warned him about the DVD, because my attempts to warn him all failed, and because nobody who I asked to get messages through, including copies of my book, ever acted on those requests, he was left in ignorance about the DVD.
poor man, and the DVD stiffed him in 2022.
Well, I'm not so sure that that's the case because I have to say that, you know, he has many people consulting him, not the least of which is the NSA, the CIA, and other alphabet agencies.
Now there are some good players.
I know there's a lot of, you know, bad players in that group, but for example, I think it's...
Rogers comes to mind.
There's an individual called Rogers who was, I think he was head of the NSA or close to it, a very high-level office within the NSA, who did go back-channel and did report information to Trump that has actually come forward since then.
So, in other words, he did have people reporting to him.
If there was a German involvement in the election, I'm sure he's well aware of it.
No.
The Germans, in the first Bush administration, let's say the first, the first second Bush administration, George W. Bush's first administration, the Germans, through Bush 41, who was a German intelligence officer, set up the Department of Homeland Security precisely in order to block intelligence from reaching the president.
And the Department of Homeland Security has been a huge success for the Germans, not for the Americans.
It has blocked unbelievable amounts of intelligence from reaching the president.
The NSA, for example, when I gave them the address of the DVD's headquarters, they put a bird overhead.
It was my first bird.
You always remember the first bird you get moving, you know.
As an intelligence specialist, you're giving advice and say, look, I think the boys are going to be a real satellite over this part of the world, in this particular case, Dachau.
And you always get back complaints saying, Michael, do you know how much this is going to cost?
Do you know how much fuel?
Do you know how limited the amount of fuel we have on our birds?
And, gee, Michael, do you know what you're asking?
And to which the answer always was, yeah, I know exactly what I'm asking, boys.
I'm asking you to do a 30-second burn in space, and I'm asking you to move a KH-13 over these coordinates.
And I think you'll be pleased with the result.
Well, they caught Bush 41 walking into the DVD's headquarters.
Now, none of that ever reached Donald Trump.
And part of the reason is because the NSA report now to the Department of Homeland Security and they suppress it.
So all of the stuff the NSA got, the overheads of DVD headquarters, Bush 41 walking in, The FBI transcripts of that call that I set up when I shot Bush 41 to the Washington field office.
He didn't know.
He didn't know I'd been talking to the field office.
He thought I was talking to headquarters.
Well, I was talking to headquarters, but the key conversation was with the Washington field office, who put a phone tap on a high-level American traitor who's still alive, so I can't name him, because I'm subject to the British laws of libel.
I can't name him, but I shot a high-level traitor to the FBI field office, deliberately avoiding headquarters, who I knew were compromised because I knew the director was working for the Germans.
I didn't waste my time with the FBI headquarters.
I didn't waste my time with the Hoover building.
I shot him to the field office.
It was actually done very discreetly.
He had a bar behind a pillar.
Okay.
And Bush 41 picked up the phone, not realizing it was tapped.
And the NSA got, the FBI got the tap.
Now, none of that wiretap evidence against Bush 41 ever crossed Trump's desk because Homeland Security were in a position where they could suppress it.
The director of the NSA actually has very, had very little access time with Donald Trump.
Very little.
Okay.
I think it's Admiral Rogers, as I recall.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
Yes, he was the director.
Yeah.
And it's now General Max Sonny.
I understand he's a very good man.
I've not had personal one-to-one dealings, but he gets a Christmas card from me every year.
The director always gets a Christmas card from Mike.
Now, yeah, I'm serious.
The NSA are on my Christmas card list.
Okay, you know that, is her name Gina Haskell?
Do I have the right name?
Haskell, yeah, she was head of the CIA. She was implicated.
She was actually on the site when the Dominion servers, when they broke in and actually got the evidence for this deal.
She was never going to give an accurate briefing to Donald Trump.
And, of course, the CIA, once you had this ridiculous Homeland Security Department set up, which was modeled on the old Reich's Security Ministry, the RHSA, this super intelligence agency blocking access from the real intelligence agencies like the CIA, because Homeland Security gave very little information.
CIA and the NSA and the human.
They seem to be gathering intelligence against Americans.
The Department of Homeland Security as opposed to Oh, yeah.
I think they're fairly active in that area.
Gathering intelligence on the good guys.
The homeland security of past masters at that.
The whole structure that poor old George W. was persuaded to go along with by his father actually prevents intelligence reaching the president.
The American president, if he's not working for the Germans, is blindsided.
Donald Trump was kept in the dark for four years, and there's very little Admiral Rogers or Cameron, I can say.
There's very little...
Okay, well, I am...
I know, but I want to get my question in here and then I'm going to let you go.
So this is the last question.
You know, you've been amazing.
Do you know about an organization called the White Hats?
The reason I'm bringing them up is because they do have a lot.
They actually specialize in intelligence and former and current intelligence agents, members of our government.
We're talking when they what they are is technically they they formed Around, maybe even before, the death of JFK. What they did was they realized our government was going to have a coup, that we were being taken over.
They are military, they are ex-military, they are current military, they are, as I say, intelligence agents, etc.
I've had dealings with them directly.
Now, this is a real organization.
It is a secret organization, but it's known by the codename White Hats, and it's talked about.
And like I say, I've had direct dealings with some of their members.
So my point here is that maybe you don't realize that Trump has this group that do report intelligence to him, always have, and that they're in part of the group that got him to office.
No, I've never heard of them by that name, but I am well aware that there was a private grouping and I was in touch with them.
There are several generals in that group, but it's clearly the same group.
I don't think there could be two private intelligence organizations out there.
I hadn't I hadn't, they never described themselves to me as the White Hats.
Yes, Bonnie.
You know who Bonnie is?
Okay, he's one of their key members, as I recall.
And it goes, yeah, okay.
There's a very nice general, let's stick to first names, a very nice general called Paul, who's involved in this.
Yes, the trouble that they had was that they were feeding intelligence, for example, through Ivanka Trump.
always reaching the president and i i that organization i i think it has to be the same organization we're involved in the attempts to back channel stuff to president it was that organization that had a general at the meeting in mara lago but uh although i did a briefing for the general i the briefing i gave the general i was assured would be passed on to the president uh It never happened.
There are all sorts of ways in which intelligence can be diverted.
But yes, there is a patriotic grouping of American intelligence and military officers, and it does go back to The coup against JFK, which was the Chicago attempt.
Dallas wasn't the first attempt to take JFK out.
There was an attempt at Chicago a few weeks before.
The American intelligence community became aware of the German threat to President Kennedy sometime before November 1963.
The expression white hats is a common one in the Intelligence Committee, white hats and black hats.
And interestingly, it's an expression used by two CIA officers who were involved in the investigation into the The Kennedy shooting, I mean the real one, the one run out of Dallas, Texas, not the one run out of Langley.
Your answer is yes, you're aware of them.
Okay, but your point would be that the intelligence they gather you don't think makes it through to the President because it stops at Ivanka or something like that?
Yeah, I was able to witness firsthand the ways in which intelligence were blocked.
I think that group thought they were getting through to the President.
It's clear to me that they weren't.
If you talk to them, next you talk to that group, say, was one of your members an old U-2 pilot by the name of Joe?
I don't give a surname, but Ask him about Joe, who flew a U-2 over Cuba during the crisis and also started out his career flying RB-36s.
So, at any rate, they're not...
Yeah, I think they're going to know who you're talking about, but you're not in touch with them at this time.
I mean, you don't have to...
Oh, yeah, no, no.
They get a copy of my column every week.
Right.
My column goes to that every week.
Kapustin Yar, Soviet ICBM complex.
Joe flew over that too.
In the good old days in the U-2, Joe was offered the Gary Powers flight before.
In the CIA, Gary Powers was always known as Francis.
The Powers flight was offered to Joe before, because Joe was a better pilot than Francis Powers.
Joe was offered that flight before Francis and turned it down.
I remember having a conversation with Irma Drake.
I was like, what?
Why'd you turn it down?
That would have been a great fight.
I didn't want to get shot down.
And then I realised, ah, that was the deal.
He said, yes.
Francis Powers was instructed to descend to flight level 480 after a deal had been done with Moscow whereby 14 SA-2s were going to be exploded a few thousand feet below the U-2 because there's a weakness in the tailplane, the stabiliser.
And the plan was that the plane would be brought down but the pilot wouldn't be killed.
But the SA-2 at that time only had a ceiling of about 50,000 feet.
Gary Powers, in order for that U-2 to be brought down, Gary had to descend to flight level 4.0.
The reason I know that is because I had a conversation with the pilot, the U-2 pilot, who was offered the job before Gary, who'd actually trained Gary on the U-2.
Okay.
Very good.
I've got a small bird history for you.
Okay, yes.
I have to tell you, when I first rolled up to the Skunk Works, now that's where the YouTube was made, as in the Skunk Works, the Rocky Martin Skunk Works, which originally was a bird anchor, then moved to Barndale on the recommendation of a friend of mine.
When I rolled on, I had the first dealings of the director of the Skunk Works.
They were deeply impressed that I had detailed details of the U2's first flight that had not been made public, which, of course, I got from Joe.
Initially, I remember having a conversation with Frank Capuccio, the director of the Skunk Works at the time, and he looked at me and amazed.
He said, how the hell did you know that?
Of course, he knew exactly who Joe was.
I said, well, man.
I got that from Joe, who was there watching it.
The runway, they've forgotten.
The U2, on the first flight, when Tony Levia took the U2 off for the first time at Edwards Air Force Base.
Yeah, I think it was Edwards.
He takes the U-2 off the first flight, and he took off early in the morning.
The temperatures were nice and cold.
By the time he got down, the temperatures had climbed, and the U-2 was basically a sailplane with a jet engine at the back.
He couldn't get the damn thing back on the runway.
He had to yank the stick back, and had to stall the thing onto the runway, developing the classic technique for landing a U-2 on a hot runway.
The hot air was just keeping the thing airborne.
He just couldn't get the bird back on the ground.
It was very funny.
Okay.
All right.
So, Michael.
Kelly Johnson was there.
Kelly had designed the U2. Right.
Well, that's a whole, you know, I mean, Lockheed and their whole history is absolutely fascinating.
Wonderful company.
F-35 is a great aircraft and the Americans have done very well to buy them.
And I think you should buy some more.
And how they do it for the money, I have no idea.
Well, we've covered a lot of ground.
I want to thank you so much for coming on the show.
Maybe some white hats will see this interview and contact you.
I like the expression, the white hats.
I mean, white hats, black hats is a standard intelligence.
It just happens to be, you know, it's well known in the community that I'm in that we refer to them as that.
Clearly the same group.
There aren't two private groups in competition with each other.
I'm quite sure about that.
Yes, they do get a copy of my column.
Yes, I have been in touch with them and have been in touch with them for a long time, but not by that name.
Okay.
Alright, so everyone...
They didn't have a business card saying white hat.
Right, needless to say.
But if they wore a hat, if they wore a cowboy hat, it would be a white hat.
Yes.
It avoids confusion.
It's very helpful, Carrie, if the white hats wear white hats and the black hats wear black hats, it makes life a lot easier for everybody.
Okay, so I want to thank you again for being here today.
And maybe we can do this again in the near future if some of these things we're talking about come to pass, as it looks like they very well may.
And let's stay tuned.
We'll keep an eye on your column as usual.
And, you know, I just want to say thank you.
And maybe, you know, some of this information you've shared with us will go to the right places.
It would be my pleasure.
I should explain to your listeners that it was pouring with rain in London yesterday.
I was trudging my dinner through the rain, and I picked up a bit of a cold, so I've not been fully fit this evening.
But it's been a pleasure to be on your show, and as usual, you've done very well to draw me out of my shell.
Very good.
All right.
Thanks for the tip about that gallery.
I should remember that on Zoom meetings in future.
This is a lot better than having that tiny little screen stuck in the corner.
Yes, absolutely.
All right.
Take care.
All right.
And thanks, everyone, for watching.
We're basically going to run some credits here, so that gets us out of the way, and we'll be back.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
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