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Jan. 24, 2021 - Project Camelot

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ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION: JEAN-CLAUDE, HOST, WITH KERRY CASSIDY AND PENNY KELLY

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	Thank you.
	Hello, everyone.
	I'm Jean-Claude at Beyond Mystic, and welcome to this very special episode of A Break in the Clouds.
	With me tonight are two recurring guests, two favorite recurring guests here on Beyond Mystic.
	So let me start with my introductions.
	Who do I have to my left here?
	Let me bring that up.
	We'll start with Keri Cassidy.
	Of course, you can find her work at projectcamelotportal.com, and you can also find her on her YouTube channel here at Project Camelot.
	Keri, welcome back to the show.
	Thank you.
	Happy to be here.
	Awesome.
	And next, of course, is another fan favorite of Beyond Mystic.
	Of course, it's Penny Kelly.
	You can find her work at consciousnessonfire.com or pennykelly.com.
	And you can find her also on YouTube on her YouTube channel, Penny Kelly.
	Penny, welcome back to the show.
	Good to be here.
	I am excited to have you guys here.
	Of course, these are exciting times.
	People are nervous, they're afraid, they're worried, they're confused, all of the above.
	And the energies are really, really high, and I want to do my part this evening to try to bring some peace maybe to the discussion here in terms of sharing different points of view here and having Adult, open conversation here with the audience in the hopes that we can maybe piece some of the puzzles together to have a better understanding.
	Because of course, once you have more information and more understanding, you can calm down and you can make the appropriate decisions to protect yourself and to protect your family.
	That being said, folks, thank you so much for joining us here live on this YouTube show.
	You guys, of course, are welcome to participate here with questions and comments as we go along, but we do ask you to please keep it polite and civil.
	We're having an adult conversations.
	If you don't agree with us, that's okay too, but be responsible and polite about it.
	So, before we start, I think what I'd like to do, and this is The genesis for this episode this evening was both of the, I guess, sit reps that you guys produced yesterday.
	So the first one was Carrie.
	The second one was Penny here.
	And I think I'm going to ask maybe Penny to start here.
	And let me just point that up again here so people can know and go find this on her YouTube channel.
	Let me break I'm putting this up here for people to see.
	And I'm talking about this episode here, January 21st, Do You See What I See?
	So Penny, maybe take here the first five minutes and explain here a synopsis of that video and what you see here moving forward and what are your, I guess, last minute enlightenments as things are developing for you here?
	Okay.
	Well, after the election, I was all excited.
	You know, I've been supporting Trump for a long time.
	Not really supporting Trump.
	What I was supporting was the end of the corruption.
	I didn't care who was doing it.
	I just wanted to see that corruption end.
	And I had worked with people who had been victims of that.
	I had seen some terrible photos, etc.
	So...
	So Biden gets elected and Washington, D.C. is full of soldiers.
	And from my point of view, what I was seeing was all of a sudden these pieces coming together that I hadn't seen before.
	And the pieces were that the corporation, the United States Corporation, was now defunct.
	And that Trump had walked away.
	And everybody's like, nothing happened, nothing happened.
	And I'm celebrating all day because I was busy with painters and a crew of guys here painting the hayloft.
	I get on the internet at night and I discover that everybody is feeling betrayed and they're angry and they're upset.
	And I just thought, oh my God, this is, you know, this is crazy.
	They're not seeing what I'm seeing, which is that we had this United States, the United States Corporation was something formed in In fact, let me say a couple of things about that corporation just so that people understand it.
	I took some notes here.
	So I'm just going to say this.
	The Act of 1871 created a governing structure for Washington, D.C. A lot of people do not know that Washington, D.C. is not part of the United States It's not a stake.
	So...
	Annie, can I just put you on hold for just one moment here?
	I'm seeing a lot of reports in the chat regarding Keri's feed on her YouTube channel.
	Apparently, either the video, my audio, or your audio is not going through on your end, Keri.
	So I'm not sure if there's anything you can fix there.
	Okay, so I put both links.
	So I will...
	Hold on one second.
	I'll just type a message to everyone.
	Let me just stop sharing and I'll tell them.
	I assume you can hear me.
	So sorry about this.
	If it's not working, then just close down this.
	I won't broadcast it live and I'll get the copy later and put it on the screen.
	We tried, but if it's not working, it's not working.
	So sorry, I can't watch both screens at the same time.
	So go over to the link that I provided and...
	Let me see if I can get into my chat here.
	Sorry.
	I'm really sorry about doing this.
	So I guess it's not working properly.
	So for those that are watching here, you should have seen two links.
	Go to the Jean-Claude link.
	That's the one to watch because this one is not apparently working properly.
	So in that case, let me just get this.
	And Carrie, in the private chat, I've just resend you the URL to this stream.
	So if you want to copy that into your chat.
	No, I got that.
	You have it?
	Okay.
	I've already been sending it around.
	So there it is for everyone.
	And so then I'll just close this down.
	So go ahead with your podcast.
	I'm so sorry, folks, for the interruptions.
	But of course, we're doing this live and we're trying to find more cash here for everyone to see this.
	And we're, of course, doing this open public here, not behind a paywall.
	So I hope you can appreciate that we're trying to spread the message here.
	So I'm sorry for the interruption.
	Please, please continue.
	Okay.
	So, you know, the Act of 1871, it kind of, I think it got repealed after a couple of years later, but then it got back together and it was activated in 1878.
	So that governing structure was a corporation.
	And unfortunately, the name of that corporation was the United States Corporation.
	And that's been the source of just this unending confusion for years and years now.
	So what was meant to be a governing structure for D.C. became confused and tangled with the United States government.
	And that's the name of our government.
	In fact, United States is the name of the federal government.
	The United States of America refers to all the states.
	Okay, so the confusion that resulted from taking that name, the United States Corporation, was kind of played to advantage by the City of London bankers who created the Federal Reserve banking system.
	And they made a deal with our government at one point to issue our money.
	And that was, I think, in 1913 or something like that.
	And that gave them control over how much money was circulating and who had money and how much interest and all that stuff.
	So for those who aren't familiar with that background, just know that that was going on.
	And then that control deepened after the Civil War when our country was bankrupt.
	And so what they did after the Civil War was they said, we need a loan, and the bankers said, we'll give you a loan if you give us Washington, D.C. So that resulted in where we're at now, and then very slowly they just kind of Slid in there.
	So that corporation, the U.S. corporation, was what we were using for our governing system, which we shouldn't have been, and our banking system, which we were.
	And that is bankrupt.
	And I think the corporation, somebody wrote and said that the corporation ended in 1999, but they still had money and they still had power and they were still keeping that whole thing going.
	And that's my understanding of it at this point.
	So come to the Biden thing, what I'm seeing is Trump walking away saying, good luck.
	Important word, that word luck.
	That's Trump pointing out that word.
	And I'm thinking, hmm.
	And that sort of was a trigger that allowed me to realize here was Joe Biden sitting in Washington, D.C., a foreign country in the heart of the U.S., surrounded or filled with U.S. soldiers, and they had no money, and they had no power, and they had no jurisdiction, and the corporation Was bankrupt.
	And so what Biden was really inheriting was a bankrupt organization.
	And I was like, oh, wow, we're free.
	We're free.
	Finally, we are free to go and reinstitute or restore the republic.
	And so I'm celebrating all day and thinking, oh my God, I can get some other things done.
	All I've done is watch this stuff happening for the last two years.
	And then when I discovered nobody else was seeing that, I was like, oh, maybe I'm seeing it wrong.
	So then that resulted in the post that I put up that said, do you see what I see?
	I think we have a chance.
	Trump walked out of Washington, D.C. Why aren't we following?
	Walk out right behind him.
	Pull your attention away.
	You know, the way consciousness works is on the basis of attention.
	And if you pull attention away from something, it just kind of shrivels and goes away.
	And so that whole business...
	Of, you know, recognizing all those soldiers aren't there to protect Biden.
	They turned their back.
	He didn't get a presidential plane.
	And James Gilliland, I saw this today, had this amazing rant that I saw on paper or on screen.
	It wasn't a video, but he listed, you know, people, are you not seeing these things?
	And I thought...
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's it, James.
	That's exactly what I'm seeing.
	And why are people still caught up in the woe is me?
	This is, you know, we've been betrayed.
	And I was thinking, well, whatever was going to happen, maybe it didn't happen because all along we have been warned that disinformation was necessary.
	We have been warned by the 17th letter of the alphabet.
	And that disinformation was necessary and war is a game.
	It's a game of deception and moves and counter moves.
	And so I thought, well, maybe they had to fool all of us, even Pompeo and Trump, and say something's going to happen in order to reveal the last few players that were holding out or, you know, maybe there was a bomb.
	Who knows?
	There was a bomb.
	And in my humble opinion, getting Joe Biden arrested isn't worth one single life.
	So why are people upset?
	If they were going to blow up a bomb, there would have gone 25,000 of our fathers and sons.
	Nobody wants to see that for somebody that's, you know, my attitude was, good luck, Joe, just like Trump.
	Good luck.
	You know, you got yourself 10 square miles here that's bankrupt and go nowhere, and it's now occupied by a bunch of soldiers that belong to us.
	So, you know, so then I thought, well...
	Maybe I'm not seeing it correctly, but I think we have a window here to restore, to walk away, restore the republic, and let Biden do what he does.
	You know, who cares what he does?
	The people who like Biden can follow Biden.
	We don't have to go over them.
	They have their own lessons to learn and we have ours.
	So that's kind of in a nutshell.
	You know, we have this chance to take that consciousness that we've been nurturing for the last four years and do something with it that's really constructive and really wonderful.
	And I have a million ideas about that, but you can only go so fast You know, so that's it.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you so much, Penny.
	That's a good recap of that video, and I'll put the link in the description box below so people can go watch the full video if they want.
	And I think what I'll do, before I ask you, Penny, what you see moving forward, I'll now ask Carrie here to give us her insights as to what's happening, what may be transpired over the last couple of days, and then from there we'll get back into, okay, moving forward in the next couple of days, weeks here, what we can see or expect from So, Kerry, back to you here.
	Can you give us a synopsis here of what you think is happening right now, what your intel sources are saying, your background people are saying, and also your intuition, of course.
	You're very adept at that as well.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you, Jean-Claude and Penny.
	And Penny, I watched your video, so I'm on the right page with you.
	And I do agree that the Republic has been restored.
	I believe that the evidence and the information coming out about that is correct.
	And that we're going to see more and more sort of evidence of that.
	And I do think it's an opportunity, a window of opportunity for everyone.
	However, I actually just got done making a video about my kind of response to that idea that the Republic is restored and what's going to happen next.
	So I want to say that...
	I'm not quite on the same page with you, but I certainly agree with the part that this is an opportunity for the people to take steps in whatever direction they wish and to take this at hand and really...
	Go for it, okay?
	And actually, that's not the video.
	I haven't even uploaded the video I just made, so it's not on yet.
	Okay, so for the audience, this was the first video.
	I did that recently.
	Yesterday, I think it was.
	Right.
	So maybe, folks, you want to start with that.
	And of course, when Kerry uploads the second one, you'll have the context here for this conversation.
	Yeah, it would be a good idea.
	So what I'm saying here is that...
	Okay, this is a long-term war that we've been a part of.
	The Pleiadians have been fighting the Dracoreptilians.
	The Dracoreptilians are a marauding species.
	They go around and find planets.
	And take them over.
	And they conquer them and then they feed off of the inhabitants, I guess, to their liking.
	And in this case, humans, of course, are.
	And humanoid planets are kind of their prey.
	So they go after that.
	And the greys, a lot of the greys, work for them.
	And some of those grays are basically AI or what some people call programmable entities or life forms.
	So, biological programmable life forms.
	So, at any rate, the situation is more complex than...
	You're kind of laying out at this time, in my view.
	I think that we are really dealing with a situation in which it's...
	I listened to Simon Parks today, and he made a whole statement about we have 800 military officers, generals that are behind Trump and behind...
	The Pentagon is not, you know, not reporting...
	Not to to Biden at all.
	And all of this is great stuff.
	And and the troops are turning their back on Biden's motorcade.
	And I totally I mean, this this opportunity horizon, if you will, is amazing.
	And I'm sure that the Trump and team are aware of it.
	So the last words Trump said was before he got on Air Force One is we'll be back in another form.
	The plan was always to restore the Republic.
	So I believe before he left office, he did whatever he had to do in order to make that happen.
	So in essence, it's it's done, but it's done on paper.
	Now, the dark side aren't going away.
	And they also may have pulled something, at least according to Simon.
	He thinks, well, the Patriots, his contacts are telling him, well, maybe the Trump and team overestimated their situation or they underestimated the opposition and made some kind of error.
	Or they pulled...
	The opposition pulled a card.
	Like you're saying, maybe they plan to...
	Because they do have...
	By the way, just so you know, the Illuminati's principle of planet Earth is that if we can't have it, no one gets it.
	And they would actually dissolve it.
	So this is their modus operandi.
	So it wouldn't be surprising that they came up with some kind of...
	You know, card in the deck and said, you know, gave an ultimatum that made it so Trump and team had to step back for the moment.
	But I don't believe they're going to stay there if they really have done so.
	I think that this, you know, we're watching a drama.
	We're part of a drama that is unfolding in front of us.
	And I want to say that, you know, we are now in a revolution.
	So...
	This is what my video is about.
	I'm basically saying that to understand where we're at, we have enemies You know, foreign and domestic.
	So in essence, we're not only in a revolution, we're in a civil war.
	And these two sides are entrenched.
	So Biden, as much as he may be a weak puppet in the role, he is backed by some major Illuminati money, etc.
	And this is a worldwide consortium that has been holding sway over the planet now for eons.
	So it's not so fast that you can think that because they've got a piece of paper or they did what they're calling restore the republic and dissolve the corporation that it's that simple.
	It's not.
	We are fighting and they are fighting this incredible Luciferian agenda.
	This Luciferian blood-drinking lifestyle that has emerged and has entrapped governments, heads of governments, heads of industry, you name it.
	And so there's that element, which involves the pedophilia, involves the Catholic Church, the Vatican.
	The Vatican, okay, and I know that, Penny, you talked about the link-up.
	You know, there's this triangle of power there.
	That has been going on between Washington, D.C. City State, the Vatican City State, and City of London City State.
	And I did a whole...
	I actually flew to London in December.
	I witnessed in my sort of second sight, whatever you want to call that, this energy, vampiric energy flow, in which the dark side were funneling the energy, the good energy at that time, With Trump in the White House, basically into the Vatican.
	Now, this situation is an occult situation.
	And thank God for Juan Osavin, who is actually well versed in the occult, unlike some of the people out there.
	And I know Simon Parks, for example, he can't talk about it as much, but he is certainly very knowledgeable in that way, trained by both his mother and his grandfather, as he freely admits.
	So knowing that this is an occult war, that it also involves ETs, and nobody wants to talk about that yet.
	However, you know, they released the CIA files of UFOs, which is only the surface.
	It's the most superficial level of the surface, right?
	So where this is all going is it's going to manifest larger and larger.
	But I will say that, look, there are some basics to understand here.
	We have Chinese at the gates.
	So we have Chinese at both borders, and I've gotten multiple confirmations on that.
	Whether you want to believe it or not is up to you.
	It's your choice.
	We have also been infiltrated by the Chinese communists.
	And I'm going to have Cyrus Parsa on my show next week who talks about this extensively.
	With the Chinese Communist Party that has also basically become in charge and is taking over as we speak, if you want to look at it like this, the Illuminati.
	This is what's this transhuman agenda that is rolling out on the globe that COVID was a very instrumental part of has to do with linking you to their AI board.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	So this is a takeover and this is a war that is worldwide.
	This is not just the United States.
	So it's not enough that we restore the republic and we're done.
	It's not like that.
	And, you know, I know Penny's not saying it's like that superficial, but the bottom line is I just want to say that we are involved in an ongoing battle.
	That we have been at war.
	You are a soldier.
	You know, this is why I talk about light warriors.
	You're a light warrior, not a light worker.
	Okay?
	And you're basically part...
	Of a war that has been going on for eons and doesn't only happen on this planet.
	So understand that one of the ways we free ourselves as humans is to get rid of the reptilian Draco rule over our planet.
	And you can round up some pedophiles if you want, but understanding that this has infiltrated all aspects and all institutions And certainly the media and they control the media.
	And so, actually my recent video I call, The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.
	Because it has not been televised, okay?
	Because the real revolution has been happening in secret.
	And all of us, as much as we talk to each other and we're on the internet and they're trying to shut us up, they don't let us into the mainstream.
	And I know this kind of better than others because I've actually been...
	Had to deal with the mainstream at a certain point in Hollywood.
	So just want to say that's my piece.
	I think, you know, hopefully I haven't gone on too long here.
	You know, happy to have a discussion about all aspects of this.
	Awesome.
	Thank you, Kerry.
	And let's continue the conversation here.
	And I think what I'll do for the benefit of the audience, too, who are aware of all the videos I've already done with Penny, where we talked about the bigger global picture and this bigger spiritual war, I'm going to ask Penny to maybe...
	Add in to her information because, of course, the video she made yesterday was specifically tailored to the American people and not in the broader context of the planet.
	So I'm going to give Penny a chance here to add some of her context to that.
	But before I do that, there's a few on the screen about the people that we've just talked about, about them not being trustworthy.
	And I wanted to warn the audience here.
	A couple of days ago here with Cliff High and the boys here, the three amigos, and we talked about the fact that, yes, of course, there's this info everywhere, and we've done a good job finding them out over the last 10 years or so.
	But now we're also seeing this info in the people who are the white hats, the people who are trying to bring new information to light here.
	And that reason is because they're getting information, possibly from operations, that, of course, their main goal is to destabilize.
	The opposition or the enemy.
	So in that sense, they might be also, whether they know it or not, be putting out this information.
	So again here, discernment is key.
	Listen to everyone.
	Follow no one, but go into your heart and use those heart muscles.
	I talked about that in a show last night.
	To go past, you know, from that gate, from the mundane to the divine here, you have to go outside of the need for external validation.
	So that is my comment to the people on the screen who are talking about these individuals.
	Of course, you're allowed to have the opinions that you have, that's fine, but please think about it as the bigger picture here and look and step back and step back and keep stepping back.
	So, that being said here, Penny, why don't you add here, take a few minutes to add to the context of yesterday's video in the terms here of this global spiritual war that you and I have talked about on the show quite so many times.
	Well, you know, as I was listening, thank you for that, Carrie.
	I mean, it just brought up so many things.
	I don't know that you and I have talked, Jean-Claude, about some of the stuff that goes on in my background.
	But what Carrie was saying reminded me of the argument that I had on board one of the ships with the beings who had picked me up.
	And they were insisting it was too late.
	And I was insisting it was not too late.
	And, you know, and I've held that position of it's not too late.
	And, you know, and it seems to me that everything happens in just the right moment at the right time.
	And there's just no way around that.
	You can't push the river.
	You have to get on the boat and go down with the current.
	But I have been aware for a long time, and I haven't wanted to talk about it for several reasons.
	The biggest reason was because I think that there's going to be a backlash against anybody who's associated with ETs.
	And since I happen to be associated in that way, I didn't want to get caught in that.
	I wasn't sure people would be able to discern what was a real, what Carrie called a light warrior, which I like, as opposed to a light worker.
	But that whole thing, that whole thing Carrie just said, has me thinking, you know, is it too late?
	Is it too late to do it the way that we were going to do it?
	You know, the whole thing was about teaching the world about the mind and consciousness.
	You know, that was my job.
	And it takes such a long time to shift consciousness.
	And where I come from, it's only a one-at-a-time thing.
	You can't fix the world.
	You have to fix the people.
	The people make the world, so why bother trying to fix the world?
	Fix the people.
	And we're kind of out of time.
	And I have really been...
	I'm concerned because I have known about that agenda in the background.
	Daphne keeps trying to get me to talk about it and I keep avoiding that there are beings here that we should not have trusted, that we cannot trust, and that we need to be aware of.
	But they haven't even announced that there are other beings.
	So it's like, oh my God, you know, we're back to go.
	Do not collect $200.
	And we run around the board again and come up with our hands empty again and again and again.
	So there's a lot of things that have to begin moving forward that really, that really not, it isn't just about the Republic.
	America happens to be For most of the world, a lot of the world, the symbol of, who was that French girl who wore the red hat in the revolution, the French Revolution, freedom or liberty or something like that?
	We happen to be in that position for the rest of the world at this point.
	And if we fall, if we screw up, if we don't see...
	Then it's all going to go, and it's going to go just like Carrie said.
	And so what I see is that we're up against another generation or two of having to be really attentive and be working hard a minimum of maybe 15 years.
	And then, you know, maybe...
	And in the meantime, you know, I've seen some other things, which I wrote about in Volume 4, that have to do with the sun.
	It's like, oh, we're having our test here.
	And it's a big test.
	And there's just no way around it.
	Period.
	There's no way around it.
	So in terms of getting the big picture, you have to include the entire solar system at least.
	At least.
	And then maybe you can begin to see...
	Some of the options and what the odds are.
	But I do know that, you know, the attitude of my people is we can't do a thing.
	You have to do it for yourself.
	We can help, but we're not going to do it for you.
	And that's, I mean, I think everybody knows that.
	And we're soft here in America.
	We have wanted it to be easier, and every generation wants it to be easier.
	And so they keep selling their soul as they move along.
	And it backfires somewhere down the road.
	You know, I know some things that, or I've seen a few things that I think are major bumps in the road.
	Around January 30th, big bump.
	February 22nd, big bump.
	March, I think it's 13th, 14th, 15th, big bump.
	And I'm not sure that we're going to make it through that March bump.
	I had, you know, I dream like Carrie does.
	I have dreams.
	I give myself directions, have a dream.
	And so I gave directions on January 13th, have a dream that shows me what are we doing in the middle of March of this year, two months from now.
	And I didn't have a dream for a night or two.
	And then I had a dream, which I talked about in my Tea and Consciousness, which was that I was in a church and I was up by the altar and I was talking with all these people and they were all arranged in these little honeycomb-like cells.
	In this gigantic cloud to fill the church.
	And all of a sudden, the church burned down.
	And people were running for their lives.
	And then in the middle of that, a tsunami came and washed it all away.
	And I woke up and thought, uh-oh.
	We're going to have a major crisis of belief in ourselves or our system and our ability to To take a stand or to understand, you know, what's going on.
	I'm just looking at that and thinking, oh man, that's a lot of...
	And it's like the final dark before the dawn, which comes in April.
	I had been seeing two presidents, I had been seeing two governments, I had been seeing new, in fact, I got another little piece of information, another U.S. Capitol, Capitol of the Republic, in Missouri.
	And even where that was, and I won't say because I don't want to disturb land values there, but those are things that I've seen that I've thought...
	Okay, just because we can start working on, just like Carrie said, just because we can work on restoring the republic, there's countries all around the world that are in utter chaos.
	And I just think that we're all in this together.
	It's going to be and is messy.
	So...
	Very good.
	Thank you very much, Penny, for that.
	Let me put a little bit more context here to redirect the conversation.
	On January 6th, after the certification of the vote, Trump did not concede, and of course he has not conceded to this day.
	And when he said he would leave and there would be a peaceful transition of power, of course, he didn't mention the Biden administration.
	He didn't mention the Democrats.
	And for a lot of people, they were wondering, what did he mean by that?
	And I tweeted on that day, does he mean we're going back to the republic?
	Does he mean that we're temporarily going back maybe to an army or military rule in terms of In the transition maybe to this new republic.
	And of course, a couple of days later now, here on January, I think it was 19th or 20th, we had this major come out and have an interview on ABC News in the morning.
	And I don't know that I need to pay for the audience here.
	They've probably heard it in the last couple of days here.
	But basically, what he said is that he was there to help a peaceful transition to a military rule or of a military rule or words to that effect.
	And now, of course, we've had some insights from different people who have been in this community over the last, you know, little while here, having more maybe read than before in terms of trying to decipher what's happening in the background.
	And one of those characters is Santa Surfing.
	And just a couple of days ago, we put out the idea of this second...
	Let me bring it up here so I can show it to the audience.
	A second declaration of independence.
	And it's funny that she brought that up because, again, if we are going back to a republic, this would need to occur.
	And, of course, there was a tweet last year on July 4th by Melania Trump that suggested, or it was a little bit cryptic, that she was happy to celebrate this day and watching the president sign the declaration of independence.
	We thought, huh, is this all connecting here?
	And, of course, I'm weaving a big picture here, but just to show that there's bits and pieces that are out there In the mainstream media, if you go look for them, that kind of back up and suggest that perhaps what we're talking about here has more legs than we've been led to believe.
	And the last part I wanted to bring up is this video here from Kimberly Ann, and this was...
	I think it was published in December and then reposted here in January.
	But she's talking about here, I'm sorry if you can't seal it, but she's talking about also signing a new Declaration of Independence, not just in the States, but worldwide, if we're going to move into this new system where we are free from the cabal, call it what you will.
	So having said all that, let me turn my attention back to Kerry.
	How do you see all of these pieces of the puzzle fit in the picture that you're seeing?
	And let's start building maybe the stepping blocks here, moving forward in the next couple of days, weeks, and then months.
	And let's maybe bring us up to April, because that's where Awano Sabin was saying that maybe this would be done by the first of April, and there'd be a lot of April fools who didn't believe, or worse to that effect.
	So let's dive into that a little bit here, Kerry.
	So basically I wanted to react to what Penny said because I'm glad to hear that you have prophetic dreams as I do.
	And I have to say that I have, you know, seen the future.
	I mean, and it's already rolling out according to my dreams.
	Now, I didn't believe my dreams back in the day when I had those dreams because they were so many years ago.
	And I just thought, oh, that's probably another timeline, you know, invading, you know, seeing, you know, war scenes and things.
	I've seen this, okay?
	So I didn't make an announcement.
	I've never talked about it until just very recently on some of my video blogs.
	I started to let people know in the last maybe year about this.
	Along those lines, now let me say something about the government in Missouri.
	I have a behind-the-scenes contact that's high level in the, I don't know what you want to call it, in the patriot movement, so to speak, who has told me that there has been evidence of movement of stuff to a certain area that does include part of Missouri, but it's not all, you know, it's really a border area.
	Between two states, as I understand it.
	That's right.
	So just want to say that you're not off base with that.
	That's actually, you know, I've gotten intel about it.
	I never said anything about it, but they told me.
	So I don't think that has, you know, they've obviously been above ground.
	People that live in the area have seen something going on.
	So it's not like it's a huge secret.
	Right.
	But on the other hand, the ultimate, well, for what it's worth, you know, if you want to believe my dreams, and certainly I don't expect people to believe my dreams, but you might keep it, you know, file it.
	What I do when I get information is file it into my big filing cabinet in my head, and then I do have a great recall.
	And I go and, you know, whenever I hear something, I go, you know, kind of look for that Piece of paper information in my head, I'm talking, where I made a note of something and then they match and then I start building a bigger and bigger puzzle and the pieces start fitting.
	So I have seen this, however, and I think most people should know this, but of course...
	The continuity of government is in Nevada.
	I mean, not Nevada.
	It's in Colorado and Cheyenne Mountain and that area, for one thing.
	And it's also an underground base that goes up into Idaho, for what it's worth.
	So there's that as well.
	That doesn't mean there's not...
	So maybe the Missouri thing is the East Coast version and the West Coast version is, as I say...
	Now, I've seen this.
	I've also seen, I saw that the White House is going to be abandoned.
	And I saw some other things that I don't necessarily want to talk about right now, but...
	So, this has been coming.
	Whether we're on the exact timeline that I dream about, I don't know.
	So, that's why, you know, I would always say, you know, look, there are multiple timelines.
	Things are still in play.
	Certain things could happen.
	Other things might not.
	I can also tell you that I recently, I mean very recently, had a dream that I'm at a party celebrating that we won.
	Now, it's not going to be the final...
	You know, sort of chapter, you know, because there's no, like, when you're done, so-and-so.
	We have enemies at every quarter.
	And all in, you know, just to say, all the peoples in all the countries, you know, I travel a lot, and I listen to people, and so many people have been, you know, supporting us, and I'm talking on a spiritual, heartfelt level.
	Supporting Trump and supporting Trump's team and his operation has also had to go worldwide.
	Of course, into underground bases worldwide and all of this kind of thing.
	So, you know, he's also had to play ball.
	He's made concessions and I talk about that a little bit in my new video that I'm coming up with.
	But I just want to say that I'm not sure.
	I know Jean-Claude, I might have gone off topic here.
	So if you want to ask your question again, but...
	I just want to say that, you know, many of us, and I'm not the only one, you know, JCK, I just, I put her on my Telegram.
	I have a Telegram channel, by the way.
	I've got lots of subscribers over there.
	I just opened it like five days ago or whatever it is.
	Tons of information.
	Information that I get directly, intel that I get.
	From my contacts, as well as news articles, other people's videos, so-and-so.
	I put everything on there that I think is worth looking at.
	It does not mean I believe it, okay?
	I don't even believe, you know, I mean, I didn't believe my dreams, for example.
	So I don't necessarily believe, you know, anyone out there.
	And I believe that certain people...
	Are given intel and they're kind of getting a hard knock right now.
	These people that have been in touch with the Trump team are getting hard knocks.
	But that's not actually correct because as the game proceeds, which is continuing, they're going to see that ultimately they were telling the truth.
	Timing is always off.
	The dark side always has a card they can pull at any moment.
	And talk about Earth changes.
	Like, one of the ways that they can disrupt the entire game is to come up with some, you know, Earth change.
	That they decide, you know, they've got, you know, earthquake weapons underground.
	They've got scalar weapons.
	They've got Tesla tech.
	And I've written articles about this.
	It's very important to know that you can have Tesla tech in the back of a pickup truck, for example.
	And do, like, a major...
	Scalar attack.
	You know, so we're dealing with a situation that is incredibly fluid.
	And again, it cannot be mutually assured destruction.
	So remember this.
	All right.
	So if we do have victories...
	They might be short-lived.
	They may be encased in a larger picture that doesn't look quite as sunny and so on and so forth.
	So these people that are out there, they're telling us what they've been told to tell us.
	And they are actually, in a sense, their queue kind of went quiet, more or less.
	A lot of the queue stuff that's coming out now has been stuff that's already posted a long time ago.
	Q had a very important role to play.
	Do not put it down.
	I know it's the fashion to say it's PSYOP. Listen, Trump had no way to reach the public.
	They would not let him go on the media to tell the truth.
	Q has been the lifeline to the Trump team and a secret lifeline.
	I don't care whether you believe it or not.
	And the bottom line is that these people that are on the public podium for the moment, whoever you want to name, certainly Simon Parks and Charlie Ward have admitted being in touch with the Trump team.
	So they're given information.
	So we listen to them, right?
	But if you're the Trump team, it's like they're a media arm.
	So the media arm, even in the good side, can be used to distract people And to mislead, all right?
	So understand that.
	Understand that they may put something else like saying, oh, we made a mistake at the White House thing, but actually all those troops are under Chris Miller anyway.
	And, you know, they're there because Trump brought them there.
	And the head of the National Guard said, we're making a transition to military power.
	That's exactly the words he used at the end of his sentence.
	And he's right.
	That's where we're headed right now.
	But it may not stay that way.
	Of course not.
	So, you know, if we become the republic that we're supposed to be, the military will report to the real new president of the republic, not to this paper doll that's, you know, head of the corporation that's gone defunct.
	So, you know, and then there's the financial side that's going to be brought in.
	And that's going to be major.
	You know, gold that we're supposed to go back on the gold standard, some gold standard of some kind.
	Hold on, because that is one of my big questions.
	And I want to do this in sequence.
	Okay.
	I'm just charged up right now.
	I understand and we all are and we appreciate both of your passion because the audience here is looking for all of this information and they want to take it in and make a good tableau of what's going on.
	This is what everybody is stressing about right now.
	All these little pieces, as we're trying very responsibly to bring them together, we might err sometimes.
	We know that sometimes our people that we're looking to might also err, as you said, maybe they're being fed this info for a specific reason.
	So buyer beware.
	So let me first address the Telegram stuff.
	I put this out yesterday night, Carrie, when you were assassinated here on Twitter.
	When I was assassinated on Twitter?
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	That was my language, yes.
	If you want to go check that out.
	I was suspended.
	Actually, I heard it was seven to ten days.
	I don't think I'm dead yet, but I am.
	Although, it seems to start like that, and then eventually they just drop you off and you don't come back.
	Oh, I see.
	I'm writing on the wall.
	I get it.
	Maybe.
	I'm going to ask Dave, who's a moderator in the chat, because I sent him the direct links to your telegram article.
	My telegram is totally where you should go.
	I've got so much stuff there.
	Yeah.
	So let me see if I can bring that link into the chat for everyone here, because I don't have Telegram.
	Oh, yes, I do.
	There you go.
	I'll put that into the chat.
	So there you go, folks.
	You can follow Carrie there on Telegram, and hopefully she'll be back.
	And by the way, I don't know yet exactly.
	I know you're supposed to create a group, and then the group can make comments.
	I don't know how to do that yet, so that's why I don't have comments on my posts.
	It's not because I don't want people to be able to comment.
	I do, but I have to figure it out, and it doesn't make sense yet.
	Well, we're all new at this here, too, because we're all being disbanded from our platforms and we're trying to find and figure out new platforms to stay in touch with the audience here.
	So I think the audience understands that, that we're going day by day here and we're doing our best to keep broadcasting all of our information.
	So, folks, that is Telegram for...
	Now, Penny, have you also started Telegram for now?
	Or the best place right now is still your YouTube channel?
	The best place is still YouTube, but we have a chat or a telegram thing for some of my students, and you know what?
	I haven't joined it yet, so I am so far behind, it's a pity.
	Okay.
	Well, at least we can find you there now.
	And of course, if that goes down for some reason, because you are putting some of this content out there too, people can of course find you and maybe find links to your new broadcast stations here on pennykelly.com or consciousnessonfire.com.
	I'm actually working on the setup of a community platform kind of thing that Just be watching for that.
	It's coming.
	Okay.
	Well, when you're ready for that, Penny, just let me know.
	We'll push out your links so people know where to find you.
	And of course, please, folks, also, as you know, my YouTube channel was deleted from doing this work back in December.
	I'm just now back up and running, trying to rebuild that community that was taken away.
	So if you're liking this information, please do hit that subscribe button.
	Please share the information to everyone.
	I'm doing all of these shows as best I can here free on YouTube for everyone not behind my paywall on Patreon.
	And I would want to thank all the Patreon members here who are supporting me and making it possible for me to be out here because of course YouTube did eat our lunch.
	It is economic warfare.
	That's the name of the game.
	Tomorrow night, folks, also I have another In the Dark episode with Mariam Henin.
	It's coming back to the show, like when Lisa and Amy Fulmer.
	So if you guys want to watch that, that's excellent.
	And of course, please do go watch that last episode with Cliff High.
	Quite a bit of an interesting, I guess, scenario was based out of the temporal markers that are coming out of his WebBot data.
	So if you haven't seen that, go check out that episode.
	So Kerry, back to you.
	You asked me to ask you the question again.
	We were looking at the small pieces of the puzzle here that we're finding when we're looking for them here in terms of maybe a second location, maybe a second declaration of independence, a new financial system, all of this stuff.
	So, based on all of these pictures that are coming together, where do you see Kerry?
	Both with your intuition, but also your insider folks, what do you see in the next couple of weeks?
	And then leading up to April, because I think that's the latest timeline we have.
	We have some people talking about March and some other people talking about as late as April, one of them being one of them.
	So, please give us your insights here as to what we can see moving forward.
	Okay, so I just thought it would be useful to show my telegram.
	I don't know.
	Is that showing?
	Do you see that?
	Yeah, I can bring that up.
	And so I will answer your question, I promise.
	But I am subscribed to Trump.
	Okay, he's supposedly on here in theory.
	It may not be the right Trump, because you never know, but...
	That's one thing, and I want to say that John B. Wells has a very active channel, as well as Breitbart is worth paying attention to.
	I don't want to really show people's names, but okay, maybe that's not the way to do it.
	But anyway, so I'll stop sharing, but anyway.
	Okay, so sorry about that.
	No, what do we do?
	Because people need to know what they can see when they go there.
	Yeah, I just wanted to show that you can...
	I'm subscribed to Trump Jr.
	and to Ivanka Trump.
	And more and more people are going on Telegram.
	I'm subscribed, for example, to Simon Park's channel.
	And I think just recently this guy calls himself Patriot.
	Street Fighter or something like that.
	I don't know what he calls it.
	But anyway, I think his name is Scott.
	I also wanted to draw attention to this article called The Marshall Report that wrote quite an interesting article that people might find useful to kind of look at the situation in a bigger way.
	And that's an interesting article.
	So I don't know.
	Let me see if it's even possible to share that article because...
	You have to do it by the window.
	While you bring that up.
	So there it is.
	So, yeah, just, you know, for what it's worth, if you want to click on that and show people.
	This is the article.
	Let me show you the top of it, you know.
	So it's, you know.
	A lot of people know it's making the rounds, so everyone probably has seen it, but it's a good article covering a lot of stuff.
	So just wanted to make people aware of that.
	So, you know, like I say, I just, you know, do this all day and all night now on Telegram because it just got crazy because I get, you know, I have my contacts, I get information, and I, you know, it's very slow and laborious.
	And then Facebook keeps banning me and now Twitter's banning me and I keep getting, you know, hits on my YouTube channel as well.
	So I have to hide my videos and put them on my website and nobody can find stuff and all this craziness.
	So Telegram does allow me to be in direct contact with the people, you know, on a more direct way, minute to minute really.
	So it's very, very easy to use and very useful.
	So instead of going friend to friend to friend, I am now, you know, I said, join my telegram so I can post once and everyone gets it, you know, in a sense.
	They can all tap in if they're interested and if not, no problem.
	Very good.
	Hold on before you answer my question.
	I just wanted to add to that too.
	I forgot to mention this, but Penny Kelly just put up also a mailing list on her, well, let me bring it up here.
	Why is it not there?
	Oh, here it is.
	There you go.
	On her website, pennykelly.com, at the bottom right corner here.
	So if she does get kicked off of YouTube and her Patreon account, she will be able to notify you here as to where she's going to be broadcasting.
	So please do, if you're interested in staying in touch with Penny, do fill in this mailing list address here.
	And I should have known the name of that.
	Of our telegram group, but I don't.
	So it's new.
	So it's, you know.
	If anybody in the chat knows, please give me a link to that and I'll post that back up.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I know, guys, this is confusing, but we're all doing our best here and we're all being disjointed by the machine here.
	And we're just trying to bring everybody back on a certain way so that we can continue communicating with each other.
	And that little segment there needed to happen.
	So thank you for bearing with us.
	Now, Carrie, back to the question at hand.
	Where do you see us going in the next couple weeks, couple months, up until maybe April here?
	Okay, well, I want to say that I kind of believe that things will roll out in a positive way for us, the side that is supporting Trump.
	Possibly...
	You know, as soon as evidence coming forward, certainly in March.
	And, you know, Wano Saban was saying, I swear to God, in December that it might take till April.
	So what did he know that no one else knew?
	Because no one else was saying that.
	And I want to say that Lin Wood, I think Lin Wood just did a video today.
	I haven't seen it yet.
	But Lin Wood has also been sort of read in a lot.
	So you can, you know, you can sort of Yell at these people all you want, but the bottom line is they've come forward with a lot of good stuff, I gotta say.
	And I've examined what they have to say.
	I'm very on it, very critical, because I've been doing this for over 16 years.
	I have to know, I have to be able to tell who's lying to me and how they're lying and whether they're still worth bringing on the show anyway, because they have some truth and some lies.
	It's that kind of thing.
	So where we're going in the future...
	As I say, I've had these prophetic dreams.
	It's not simple.
	It's not easy.
	It's not going to be over quickly, I'm afraid.
	That's why I'm making the videos I'm making now.
	I want people to understand.
	If the Pleiadians have been still worrying even to this day with the reptilians, then you've got to put this in perspective.
	This is long, long, long-term, and I'm not trying to depress you either.
	I'm just saying that this is what we signed up for.
	We signed up.
	We didn't come here.
	This is not our vacation planet.
	Okay?
	And, you know, some aliens may view it that way for themselves, but for us, this is, you know, this is the mission.
	This is hard work.
	This is, you know, don't kick back and just get complacent.
	Know that, you know, your rights have been taken away, and they continue to be, by the way.
	And the people that are in power in these, you know, these Low-level Nazis, the way I see them, in every walk of life, whether it's law enforcement, teachers, people in hospitals, so-called doctors, whatever they're called, they are still about upholding this system.
	The system is like a machine.
	It's not easy to turn this ship around, okay?
	It's a gigantic ship, and it's really the whole planet.
	And we're turning it around.
	We really are.
	It's not easy.
	And the dark side is not going to fold their tents and leave.
	Like, you know, I don't know.
	I was just remembering several years ago people saying, oh, the reptilians have all left, you know.
	See, these are ET races that are lying to you.
	Get a grip.
	There are lots of ET races that lie to humans on a regular basis.
	And there are ways to tell that they're lying to you.
	One of the ways is if they are, I call it paternalistic.
	So the state, the Illuminati, they have always treated you like children.
	If a race comes along and continues to treat you like that, you know right away that their agenda is going to be them over you.
	They want you to look up to them, okay, for answers.
	And that is a problem in my view.
	So just to be aware, because the really, really evolved beings, they don't deal with us like that.
	They know that we have multiple...
	First of all, this is just a body that occupies this time and space.
	But I have, you know, many bodies.
	And I am in many timelines.
	And I am...
	In this multiverse, I'm here, there, and everywhere, as John Lennon would say.
	We are all here, there, and everywhere.
	We are eternal souls.
	We are part of Source.
	Because we're part of Source, we have access to all of it.
	We just haven't figured out, necessarily, on an individual body, shell, sense of this here and now to download that huge avatar that we truly are.
	So this is where we are, okay?
	So understanding that it puts so-called ETs, it puts so-called AI in a perspective, understanding that they too want to be part of source, and they are, by the way.
	And so, like it or not, Source has set this up, okay?
	And this goes way up the chain of command in terms of Source.
	So, you know, you're dealing with a lot of levels.
	And, of course, the biggest Nazis and the ones you have to...
	Like, sort of skirt around and avoid are the ones that are on the lowest levels as it happens.
	It's, you know, it's the people that are gatekeepers that are a big problem.
	And so you just have to...
	In other words, this revolution that we're part of is requiring you to have a deeper...
	Understanding and to be able to assess instantly, is that person on my side?
	Is that person trustworthy?
	Because that can make the difference between life and death for you today and tomorrow.
	I mean, there's some tragic, tragic stories about people that have trusted and then been betrayed and killed by these people out there.
	So...
	I just want to say, you know, even when you like somebody, even when you like some of the things they say, don't just turn off the critical part of your brain, as I've said even recently.
	I hate to repeat myself, but, you know, it's so important, you know, because there is this sort of tendency, going back ages, because we are a tribal species, You had to trust each other in order to move forward as a group.
	But we are now so complex and so multi-dimensional, and there's so many ET groups.
	Races that have come in and interfered with our genome, etc., etc., that, you know, that people, even people don't even know themselves.
	They don't know what races they're part of.
	They don't know where their allegiance lies until they actually come up against it, you know, and that's when push comes to shove.
	So this is a time when true heart and true, you know, the real truth tellers are coming forward and the people that have lied to you Some have done it.
	They've been lied to.
	So they lie to you.
	Some of the lies are purposeful.
	Trump and team has had to have a stealthy approach to everything.
	And you can totally understand that.
	So roll with it.
	This is a revolution.
	It's not over tomorrow.
	It didn't start yesterday.
	Very good.
	And I was just pointing the audience there to your Rebel Gene book, where you explain a lot of things you're talking about now.
	And of course, people, if you want to get your hands on that, you can do so at projectchemlotportal.com.
	So Penny, back to you here.
	How do you see things transpiring in the next couple of weeks, days, months, and maybe bring us up until April?
	And when we're done with that conversation, I do want to come back and circle back to the whole question of the financial system.
	Kerry brought that up, so I want to do a little segment there.
	And if we have time, we'll try to take some questions from the audience.
	So let's just map out here for now what you see for the next little while moving forward.
	Well, what I've seen for a long time, and that actually is not, I mean, that's a legacy of the ropes.
	Is that we have to build a new civilization.
	If we don't, we're going to die out.
	Carrie was mentioning that, you know, beings lie to us.
	Why?
	because we are not developed enough to recognize when we hear truth.
	That's one of the things that happens in a fully developed human is that you instantly recognize a shift in yourself, in your own feeling state, which is your own frequency state, when you hear something that's an out-and-out lie.
	So they lie because they can.
	And, you know, after having been in so many different states of awareness over the last 40 years, the only way for us to go is up.
	And so on that note, what I see over the next few months is that there's a, I'm going to call it a finishing of the illusion of Building disillusionment, building sorrow, building grief, building sense of, you know, oh my gosh, it's over, you know, that kind of thing.
	And that we do, like I said, we have some bumps.
	I saw some, what I... I thought were either riots or protests or something right around January 30th.
	It takes about 10 days for people to say, what the heck just happened?
	And then about three weeks later, another something.
	I don't know what that is.
	It looked messy.
	Protests, people getting hurt in that one.
	And then another one about three weeks after that, March 15th or 13th, somewhere in there.
	And so once those three confrontations, and I see them as confrontations with the self.
	They're really confrontations with the deep side of the self that says, you know...
	It's like Bucky Fuller.
	You want to waste your time fighting, or you want to go over here and build a better mousetrap?
	That's kind of what the decision is.
	And then I was seeing that Trump somehow is in the picture in April, and then he's out of the picture, and then he's back in in May.
	And from that point forward, there's kind of a slow drooping.
	Without the hopelessness.
	It's a drooping that's kind of a, okay, let's let it go.
	You mean like the emotional tension is receding?
	The tension, the habits.
	Let's go back to the thing I was saying in the beginning.
	If Trump has freed us from the corporation...
	And that corporation was the one that set up all these rules, you know, the stuff on the face, the taxes, the IRS, all that stuff goes away.
	Are we going to pour our money in April, on tax day, into a defunct, non-existent corporation?
	What are we going to do?
	How is that going to look?
	What I've seen is that there's this long process of letting go.
	It's actually not so long, but there's a letting go, and it kind of looks like a balloon that has a slow leak.
	And it sort of just kind of lands on the floor and sort of bounces along without much energy and without any ability to pop.
	But on the other hand, the things that I see coming are this massive amount of involvement, which I love, in who are we, what do we want, what do we stand for, what kind of government.
	One of the things I had seen recently in my look-see was that One of the first things that happens as we move towards spring is these people get together and they say, we need an amendment for our constitution or we're writing a new constitution and it has to include medical sovereignty or medical freedom for each individual, you know, that kind of thing.
	There were other things about financial stuff that I wasn't clear about.
	I'm not a financial person.
	But I do see things from time to time that surprise me.
	And the whole coronavirus thing, that seems to go away.
	Thank God.
	The biggest difficulty that I see is there are difficulties getting food and the food disruptions.
	I think, and this is actually a question I was going to ask you two.
	Do you think that this is...
	Do you think people are going to see that this is more of a problem with corporations or with governments?
	I mean, we are facing, if it's a corporatocracy, who's the real enemy?
	Is it all the corporations?
	You know, the Amazons and the Twitters and the Facebooks and the big corporations that are making all these rules and they're in tandem with This whole socialist kind of government thing.
	What's the real target that we need to be looking at and countering?
	And what I think comes out of that awareness is a pulling away from corporations And Carrie's right.
	It's a long process.
	One of the things I saw with the robes was that when people sat down in their houses and didn't go out to work was the beginning of the end of the rise of business to power.
	And I think that's got to be the push or the next push that comes up.
	The The fake government is maybe dealt with.
	We're not done completely, but it's being dealt with.
	Next thing I think is going to be the corporations, and that is going to bring about some of the food shortages and some of the financial troubles, because all the supply lines get interrupted.
	Okay, thank you for that.
	Maybe before we get into the financial system, did you just want to add anything to that, Keri, in terms of maybe the food shortages here and this concept of making a way at the local level where we start to organize in communities and kind of let go maybe the top-down governance systems moving forward?
	Do you want to touch that a little bit, Keri, before we move to the next point?
	Okay, well, I don't have a lot to say about that.
	I understand that that's, you know, I've been warned by Captain Mark Richards about that.
	Food shortages and water, by the way.
	Water is also key going forward in the future.
	But, you know, even in this sort of...
	Crazy lockdown.
	What I've seen is a lot of the paranoia, it's just that.
	It's part of the propaganda.
	And people are afraid of something that they think is going to be, and I think it's not going to be as bad as they think.
	So I've seen that they're very resourceful.
	People are very resourceful.
	And I do think that humans are having to redefine how they eat, The way they eat, you know, and yes, eating, you know, corporate processed foods.
	The same thing, you know, these people that are dependent on big pharma.
	This is a huge problem.
	I mean, gigantic.
	And in some ways, you know, food is...
	Is also a drug.
	So food is a drug.
	Drugs are a drug.
	You know, sugar is a drug.
	I mean, you know, so, you know, and there's other sort of drug-like obsessions that have been sold to the people through this constant mind control.
	You know, you cannot have a disease on planet Earth without the mind control to roll out before they roll out the disease.
	In other words, these bioweapons have to be accompanied by this piece.
	And you can watch the British right now.
	They're rolling.
	They're trying to roll out another version of COVID. They're working really hard at it.
	Don't listen to them.
	You know, I don't watch advertisements on television.
	You know, I don't have a television.
	But, you know, what I mean is, you know, when I when, you know, like Hulu or whoever they are, you know, that I watch.
	I just turn the sound off completely and look away.
	I don't even look at it.
	And because they are programming you constantly, you don't realize how completely it is.
	Like our children and everyone.
	So...
	You know, you can actually, you know, construct your own beneficial reality by using, you know, not everything's bad.
	So, not all the movies are bad.
	There's some really important stories that are, you know, can outfit you to prepare to be a revolutionary like you need to be nowadays, to fight a revolution, to, you know, whatever you want to do, to embody, you know, and be the hero of your own life at this time.
	So, Just want to say, you know, they have been programming, programming, programming, and you think, oh, I got to watch the news to stay up on what's happening.
	Well, I think what you have to do is learn to sort of, if you do watch, like, you know, I'm not completely oblivious, so I try to, you know, just listen to a tiny bit just to get the sort of gist of where it's going, and then tune out.
	Get away from it, you know.
	And that goes from, don't stare at it.
	You know that they have been putting this vision of this so-called COVID thing, and they made a picture of it, and then it was everywhere, and they still do it.
	Okay, but at the beginning, it was nonstop.
	So what they're doing is implanting this idea in your mind so that when the disease comes out of the unseen, it's materialized into this reality, into this last level of It comes to you and you decide if you want it to come into your body or not.
	But if you have all this programming preparing you, it prepares the ground for your consciousness to then say, oh, I recognize that.
	I'm supposed to get that now.
	I have no defense against that.
	That type of thing.
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	The beings that contributed to making these bodies We're well aware of the challenges we would face.
	Humanity has an unbelievable ability to change, to mutate, to do, to change.
	We can mutate.
	We transform, okay?
	It's not just viruses that transform.
	Hello, you know, so they transform, so we transform.
	It's, you know, this is why we're separated.
	Do you understand?
	When we are united and when we're together physically, nothing can touch us.
	It can come in, the terrible, negative, whatever it is, but it just gets washed out because that's just the way our genome works.
	So we cannot be taken over unless we fall for it.
	And you fall mentally first.
	That's where they get you.
	So I just want to say that.
	I'm sorry, I think I forgot the question.
	You know, don't fall into this thing.
	You know, Ice Age, okay?
	You know, we create the weather here on Earth, by the way.
	Humans.
	No one talks about that.
	Human emotions, in essence, can control the weather.
	We are scalar weapons.
	We are.
	Believe it or not.
	That's what I wanted to say.
	You know, we can adapt this reality in ways no one has dreamed of, except a few.
	I wanted to say that because...
	Our power is amazing.
	And yes, go ahead.
	I'll shut up.
	I just wanted to back you up because both you and Penny were on my previous shows before we got deleted and the series was called Kundalini Secrets Revealed.
	And we were talking about the scalar wave energy that we have as humans and how powerful we are when we connect with each other and make that exponentially grow.
	And of course, this is potentially why...
	Or at least part and parcel why they're separating us at this time because there is this pass awakening of this energy going on.
	That and also the interviews I did with...
	Dr.
	Richard Allen Miller, he was talking about what you're just saying now, this full spectrum dominance of mind control and what they were doing through the TV with the colors and all of that stuff back in the 70s.
	So you can just imagine what they're doing today.
	So do shut off your TV once in a while and go walk in the forest and go hug a pine tree.
	You'll be better for it.
	Okay, let's re-dig here and tune back into the financial system.
	Let's get there now and then we'll see if we have time for questions for the audience.
	So I want to bring this back up here.
	Of course, this was one of the videos that Kimberly was putting out a couple of weeks ago.
	She's been at this for four or five years now.
	It is in the context of this Financial reset, quantum financial system.
	Kerry, you and I were going to interview Charlie Ward a couple of months ago.
	It didn't work out with our timing.
	But where do you see, Kerry, this piece here of the financial system and the transition flowing into what's happening right now, both in the United States, but globally here with all of these mass vaccinations and what appears to be these changes at the very high government levels around the planet.
	So let's touch that a little bit, Kerry.
	Okay, well, I do want to address Kim Possible.
	I actually did recently in my video, I have watched some of her stuff, and I understand she's declaring war on, I guess, the deep state or whatever, but, you know, I just wish she had put it a bit more in context, you know, the way I'm talking, because it really goes back, you know, in essence, we declared war a long time ago, but nonetheless, it's fair enough.
	You know, whether she assigns herself to be the general Leading the whole world.
	I don't know.
	You know, that's like, okay, that's your decision.
	That's the group of ETs that you report to.
	They want to put you in that position.
	Well, maybe I question that.
	Okay.
	But she seems like a good person and she seems like a, you know, well-meaning being.
	So fair enough.
	She's excellent in her analysis of the, you know, power structure and the occult and the whole financial situation.
	So good for her on that.
	You know, so I wouldn't throw everything out at all that she's talking about.
	I just, you know, I'm not sure I assign her as a general, my general, so to speak.
	But nonetheless, I, you know, so going forward...
	How is the financial system changing with respect to maybe the second declaration of independence?
	I've interviewed people on this.
	It kind of goes part and parcel with who's winning.
	You do understand that.
	I mean, if the deep state continues to win, Sorry to say this in this way, but nonetheless, you see, in a sense that, you know, Penny was even saying, who's the enemy?
	Well, the enemy is definitely the Communist Chinese Party and the AI that they're a part of and that they're rolling out and the gray ETs and the reptilians and so on.
	And, you know, how that has affected the globe and the peoples around the globe, and some are more infected than others, okay?
	So that gets into the financial system, how successfully they're going to be able to roll out what they want.
	I have some high-level financial contacts that have told me some bits and pieces.
	The deep state still has some control, from what I understand.
	Now, I think Kim Possible is saying they don't.
	I think she thinks she's turning the financial lever off.
	But I can tell you that my deep state...
	Let's see, they're promising funds to countries, okay?
	That the deep state actually came in a week or two ago, according to my source.
	And this may have been what began the sort of undercutting of what Trump and team were doing.
	In essence, offering free money...
	If you want to look at it that way, a la the economic hitman IMF, what they've been doing forever, but on a more escalated scale in a way that surprised even my source, saying that they literally said they're going to roll out a huge amount of money to countries, okay?
	And they were literally making that available.
	Now, I don't know what Kim would say about that, but she may know exactly what I'm talking about.
	And I can say that, you know, This Nisari Jasari is supposed to do something similar.
	So it's really interesting.
	So both sides are now saying, well, they've got tons of money and they're going to suddenly give us that money.
	Well, that'll be the day that I want to see that.
	You know what I mean?
	Now, I agree.
	Let's not pay our taxes.
	I mean, maybe I'm not supposed to say that, so I don't want to get...
	Yeah, don't pay that.
	No, I don't.
	Pay your taxes.
	Let's put it that way, okay?
	Right.
	Are you going to pay your taxes to the defunct corporation run by, sorry to say, you know, a clone, which is what Biden is, and a Satanist, which is, you know, I gotta be a little careful.
	I know that I'm going to be a target.
	You know, so...
	This is the thing.
	I hope that we don't always have to spell things out for people, but I do, yes, I'm hopeful about a positive change financially.
	Who wouldn't be?
	But how it's going to come about, I think it's wonderful.
	You know, Trump took over the Fed.
	But Trump, you know, he took over the Fed and put it under the Treasury.
	But at the moment, I don't know if he can still be in charge of it.
	You know what I'm saying now?
	That he's whatever that weird kind of no man's land he's in, you see.
	Right.
	So then who's in charge of the Fed right now?
	That's the question we have to ask.
	We have to ask, if Chris Miller is in charge of the troops, well, he was left in charge of the troops, but at what point...
	You know, see, it's wonderful that the Pentagon is rebelling right now, but how long will that go on for?
	And this is where civil war becomes obvious.
	They're going to have to have these...
	Really strong lines of where we have control of the Republic and where we have control of the corporation, you know, where one side thinks they're in control and the other side thinks they're in control.
	And by the way, it's worth noting, like, you know, how Melania Trump didn't want to go into the White House until it was cleared of black magic.
	And they also had to clear it out several times.
	I can tell you that I saw that.
	Um, You know, there's some really negative stuff out there that these people have had to deal with.
	I mean, the battles you hear about, like even the rescue of children, involves a lot of what is called occult knowledge and dealing with very dark, dark stuff.
	Well, the financial thing is also surrounded by a lot of dark energy.
	So getting beyond that into the positive, taking that whole...
	Sort of system into the positive is a spiritual exercise as well as, you know, a nuts and bolts go, you know, take like I think they took some money with them when they left the White House or whatever they did, you know, that kind of thing.
	So I'm not an expert on finances, but I do get information and I get it from sources.
	I also get it from my downloads, etc.
	So that's what I have to say.
	I like what you're saying here because I've understood this as well with my past guests, and Penny and I have talked about this too, where we understand that we live under this extraction of energy matrix on the planet, and the financial system is a big part of that.
	So as we're transitioning here too, we need to fix that part as we...
	So maybe Penny, you can cue us in here a little bit on what you see happening in our last look-see or our last show, Breaking the Cloud.
	You actually talked about the two scenarios here depending who was in power as to what was going to happen to our financial system in the short term.
	So maybe you can recap that for the audience here just to bring them up to speed and then also let them know if there's anything new that you're downloading now based on all of this new information.
	Okay, well, that has continued to change since we talked.
	So I think what we said before, I'm not even sure if I can characterize it the way that I said it before, but if Trump got in, cryptos were going to drop and gold and silver were going to go up.
	Gold was not going to go up as fast or as much as silver or with as much percentage.
	And it looked like the dollar...
	Got a new name, but it looked like the same dollar.
	When Biden got in, it looked like there was a really pretty serious depression.
	Cryptos went up.
	There were all sorts of lawsuits that I saw around Joe Biden and the financial system.
	Trump was going to take away protection for the corporations.
	And that led to like a feeding fest of suing and, you know, lawsuits that really took out a lot of big corporations or really set them back on their heels if they weren't taken out completely.
	So what's changed just in that little bit of time since I saw those two things is that...
	I went in to look at, okay, what are all these lawsuits?
	I wanted to see what the lawsuits were about.
	And they were not only about the corporations, but there were lawsuits about the cryptos, a lot of cryptos being sued or something happening with that.
	And I was like, ah, we have a mess.
	And so it looks like it sort of limps along.
	You know, I can't say that it does anything specific other than what it's already doing right now until we get to like maybe April, end of April.
	And then it looked like there was some kind of an announcement.
	That announcement was along the lines of we have a new financial system.
	And so people were taking money out of their cryptos to get into the new system.
	And so cryptos went down again further.
	They look like they almost went to almost nothing.
	But, you know, don't panic.
	Don't panic.
	Quite a few people in the audience just went, what?
	What?
	I know.
	But then as I looked, as I watched, over the summer, there was kind of a steady effect.
	But when I got to the fall, September, October, crypto started going back up again, and they kept going up.
	And it looked like the new financial system was not doing very well.
	And I couldn't tell why.
	I don't know why people...
	I had the thought when I was looking at it that people want their own financial system.
	They don't really trust anybody's financial system.
	They want their own governance.
	All of these councils that I saw forming are deciding these are the rules we're going to follow.
	This is the money we're going to use.
	These are the medicines that we will allow.
	This is the education system we're going to have.
	This is the food that we're going to grow and eat and source to our people in this area.
	And the U.S. does continue moving toward breaking up, which breaks my heart, but I still see that we're right on track for that.
	And at the same time, It looks like there's a scrambling, like nobody trusts what I'll call the big financial systems.
	And a lot of stuff is being sourced locally.
	Then they don't want to go back to big corporations.
	Now that may take more than six months, maybe that I'm seeing a year.
	Timing is really hard to get.
	I thought there was another financial system that was announced somewhere toward the end of the year.
	I didn't know if that did well or not.
	Didn't look like it, but people are making their own blockchains in their own...
	Can I say it like that?
	They're making their own money.
	And in the background of all of that, there's a lot of struggle by coming from a lot of grief being instigated by the old system, by the cabal, by the people who are still fighting, still fighting for power, still wanting to hang on, still trying to make people believe, etc.
	But Thanksgiving of this year is a turning point.
	At that point, almost everybody, not just in the U.S., but around the planet, is saying the same thing.
	It's never going to be like it was before.
	Never.
	And there's new technology and there's all kinds of new stuff coming out.
	And, you know, as I've looked at it, I've thought, wow, you know, it looks like all kinds of innovation and new ideas and new systems for everything.
	And people are just moving ahead with that left and right.
	And one of the things that I, you know, Cliff has temporal markers, and he talks about those temporal markers.
	I have several temporal markers.
	One of them was last April when everybody stayed home in their houses.
	I was, at that point, I thought, okay, we're at the end of the old system.
	The rise of business to power is beginning to be the fall of business.
	Second temporal marker that I've had is this...
	How do I say it?
	The rise of these councils, number one.
	Oh, and the other one just flew out of my mind.
	Okay, it'll come back to me.
	But that whole thing, that whole financial thing is...
	Pretty messy.
	There are multiple kinds of money that are being used by anybody for trade.
	They don't care whether it's backed with this, that, or whatever, or who issued it, as long as they can get the goods.
	And the corporations are under severe pressure.
	And they're only taking certain kinds of money.
	But people are moving away from them as a source of their goods and their food and their equipment and things like that.
	Some of it, yes, we'll still have some of it.
	But it's, like I said, really, really messy.
	Wow.
	That paints a picture again.
	And you and I have had this conversation before where we're asking people to be very flexible here and not hold on so much tight to the past systems here as everything is transforming or the rug is being pulled from underneath their feet.
	And you're just describing that now.
	And of course, for those who are familiar with the WebBot reports too, Cliff had seen for a long time now this issuance of three or three reboots of the financial system before it eventually took hold.
	So what you're describing there sounds a lot like that as well.
	Okay.
	Fascinating times.
	Kerry just sent me an article here from the Washington Examiner.
	Let me bring this up on the screen here.
	Of course, this is Trump being asked here, hey, what are you going to do?
	And here's his answer.
	So Kerry, do you want to bring that up and maybe share that with the audience here?
	Okay, so, well, yeah, you're doing it, so that's fine.
	I gave you the information.
	That article is out there.
	I haven't vetted the whole article.
	It's just a news article with a certain slant.
	But Trump was quoted in that article.
	It says he was at the grill room of the Trump International Golf Club.
	So he started to make a statement, you know, but it was an interesting statement.
	So, you know, he's going to be very cloaked in his answers.
	So with that in mind, but it was, you know, what I like about Trump is that, you know, he often...
	At the time that he's telling you something, he kind of shows you the other level.
	And he did that at the Alamo, you know, in his sort of presence there in his speech, basically saying it's going to look like the Alamo and looks like he's not far wrong.
	I mean, you know, to some people, it kind of looks like the Alamo, you know, that, you know, all is lost and, you know, so on.
	But actually, then what happened after the Alamo is the Americans came back and we have the United States.
	Hello.
	So, you know, this is how he works.
	And, you know, he was on stage saying, Well, you're supposed to wear a mask and all that stupid stuff with Fauci, right?
	And then at the same time, he wasn't wearing them.
	And then he made statements like, wear a scarf instead, which I always remembered and followed, and various things.
	So he's always working on more than one level, and he does try to kind of tell you You know, in certain ways, like his body language, or he makes a face when he's having to say something that he really would rather not be saying because he's having to kind of deal with the dark side so that everyone doesn't get taken out.
	I mean, hello, you know?
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	So we're about an hour and a half into this now.
	How much time do you have?
	Can we take a few questions or should we start rounding down the field?
	I can take a couple of questions, but not a long time.
	I kind of have to go.
	Okay.
	Very good.
	And Penny, are you good for a little bit more?
	Yeah, I am.
	Okay, perfect.
	So here's an opportunity.
	Of course, if you're just joining us, you can follow Carrie Cassidy at projectcamelotportal.com.
	And you can find also Penny Kelly here at consciousnessonfire.com.
	And of course, I'm here at Beyond Mythic.
	And please do remember to subscribe here as I'm trying to rebuild our community.
	Okay, so folks, we're going to ask you now to please populate the chat with your questions.
	I'm going to try to do my best.
	We're not going to get that many in here.
	We're going to try to do this maybe underneath 15 or 20 minutes and then round up the show.
	I have two first questions for our guests here, and then I'll be looking at the chat.
	So please put that in high caps, and I'll take them in order as they appear.
	Now, my first question is for Kerry.
	What did you make, Kerry, of this news item a couple of days ago where these bishops apparently all of a sudden at the same time all died suddenly?
	Did you hear anything about that from any of your insiders?
	Do you have any intuition to kind of let us know how this was connected maybe to the Leonardo satellites?
	What are your thoughts on all of this?
	I'm curious to see what you think.
	No idea.
	I actually didn't hear that news.
	That's very interesting.
	It is interesting to know that sometimes, like in this scenario that we're in, so-called people dying of COVID or getting infected with COVID and then they disappear from the scene is kind of their exit orders and then they go, who knows, underground.
	You know, to an underground city, because there are cities underground, or off-planet to Mars or wherever they go.
	So maybe this is their exit plan.
	Doesn't necessarily mean they really did die.
	Not that I would necessarily cry if they did, because I'm not a fan of religion.
	But, yeah, you know, I'm sorry.
	You know, at the moment, we...
	I don't care what it is.
	You need to question it from many angles.
	Absolutely.
	Penny, do you have any thoughts on these bishops?
	Had you read into that or seen into that with your looksies?
	What are your thoughts?
	I had seen the article, but I didn't question it.
	I didn't go any further with it.
	I just thought, hmm, that's not natural.
	That is not natural.
	Nothing to see here, folks.
	Nothing to see here.
	My next point, I'll go back to Carrie on this one here.
	Carrie, what did you make of this symbolism here during the inauguration?
	Of course, this alludes to Handmaid's Tale, of course.
	If you're looking at this picture, let me bring it up.
	It's very eerie.
	Then, of course, this one here was the mocking of the Hunger Games scenario.
	So what are your thoughts on all of this bubble gum for the brain theatrics here on Inauguration Day?
	Oh, well, you know, I have to say I didn't watch the inauguration because I just thought it was nonsense, so I didn't want to poison my brain.
	But nonetheless, now you're telling me this went on.
	I mean, look, Hunger Games is a great set of movies.
	There's, I think, three or four of them.
	Depicting the deep state.
	They love to basically expose themselves in plain sight as it happens.
	I'm a big fan of that story because it's this wonderful woman who actually goes against the system.
	And a couple men.
	Quite a few.
	I'm just saying.
	So, of course, it's a great model.
	But I don't think we're going down that road.
	I don't wish to go down that road.
	I know that it's a metaphor for the way we live, no doubt about it.
	And even more so now than it used to be because they did the lockdowns since the movie came out.
	We didn't have lockdown back then, but we had it after that.
	So, in a sense, we are living in those...
	I mean, people are all scared about FEMA camps, but in essence, you're in a camp right now.
	You're locked down in your house.
	If you follow this nonsense, and there are a lot of people that do.
	I go out every day.
	I'm in California.
	I drive to the coast every day.
	I'm free.
	I do what I want as much as I can.
	I skirt the laws and everything.
	Don't get yourself in trouble here.
	I think you need to live free.
	Born free, live free.
	And do it as much as possible.
	So sometimes I play a role, if it's necessary, to stay alive, to learn.
	Live to fight another day, as Marley said.
	But yeah, I mean, Hunger Games, yeah, right on.
	We are living in that.
	But of course, Biden is the epitome of a Hunger Games scenario.
	I mean, what a nightmare.
	More stuff about stupid masks.
	I can't believe it.
	The masks are so symbolic of shutting you out.
	I'm sorry, I'm not supposed to talk about masks.
	Yeah.
	Don't ask me.
	I don't want to get you banned on whatever channel this is coming out on.
	It's not just being banned.
	We're trying to make this information public to everyone and to people.
	And we're trying to stay here as long as we can.
	I know.
	I mean, we're all doing the same thing on our respective channels, and this is what we've been pushed to do here with all of this censorship.
	It is.
	So it's just the nature of the game right now, and I think the audience can appreciate that we're trying our best here.
	Penny, did you have any thoughts on this Hunger Game and a hands-on-tale scenario?
	Well, a couple of things.
	For a long time, I have thought that the The entire cabal game was setting up the United States, breaking it up, just going to end up like the Hunger Games scenario, the first one.
	You know, the inauguration and some of those photos that you were just showing.
	I have known that ETs do not generally prefer to watch TV or listen to the radio or things like that.
	What they do like, what we do for entertainment is to get involved in real life play drama where you act out something and That has real consequences.
	And it's kind of like a movie.
	They like to dress up and act like they're in a movie, but there's some risk to it.
	And when I saw that picture that you had up, I thought, oh, there they are, right there.
	You know, that is the ET game.
	Let's play.
	And I think elites are often very bored with their lives.
	They're so constrained by their money and their position and their vulnerability that they can't do anything.
	And so they do that kind of thing.
	For entertainment, they dress up, they play these different games.
	Some of them are pretty damn serious, but they love it.
	And it's drama, you know, real-life drama play-acting.
	And I think that's what we're seeing there.
	It always struck me, the Emmy Awards and the Oscar Awards, I'm like, these are not awards for best actors portraying something on the screen.
	These are all a bunch of ETs giving themselves awards for pretending to be human.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, I don't know about that, but I thought it was kind of funny.
	On the question of ET, and let me start with you, Penny, on this one.
	When do you see UFOs, ET presence, that can be defined by the population?
	I'm guessing Nick is saying here, when do we see open contact?
	Is it this year?
	Are we getting close to that point where we kind of rekindle our communication with our star families in an open way?
	I know a lot of people are already doing it, but in a more open, general way.
	I've seen that, well, I'll say two answers.
	Once you've had the experience, there's no denying, period.
	The second answer would be I have seen that there are noises, some announcements that really ramp up in July of this year about ET, about their presence, about their efforts, et cetera, et cetera, to get us to evolve.
	And I think it's going to be a slow process, but I see another bump up in July.
	A nice bump up.
	Okay.
	And how about you, Carrie?
	What are your thoughts on this open contact with TT? It's technology.
	It's ongoing.
	The Trump administration is dealing with ETs.
	They are, you know, I've gone into a big thing, you know, because Kim Possible is talking now suddenly about, you know, ET fake alien invasion scenario.
	And I was talking about that over a year ago because of Randy Kramer.
	Who's a Marine who's been on Mars and, you know, 21 and back, if you want to call it that.
	And he's been fighting various ETs.
	And so we were both at a young conference in, it was in 2019, September.
	And he addressed a very small group.
	It's a very, you know, kind of isolated place in Washington.
	And not Washington, D.C., but the state of Washington.
	And I was speaking there and he was speaking there.
	So we had kind of a run in over the whole fake alien invasion because my premise is also that you can't very well do a fake alien invasion when you already have a real one going on.
	You know, it's going to get messy.
	And so, you know, he didn't like that I tried to Wise the crowd up.
	I guess, you know, so he came over.
	He actually walked off the stage and came over and was, like, kind of threatening me physically in a way.
	But, you know, we kind of made up and were friends afterwards, so it was all right.
	But, you know, I kind of messed up his scenario a little bit just because I want people to think, you know, a little more seriously about what's really going on here.
	But I do appreciate he was saying that the general's The military that he's he was delivering a message and it was really interesting because, of course, they are doing it to this tiny audience and almost no one kind of ran with it or took it.
	And all the footage, by the way, of the conference disappeared in thin air.
	You know, it's just never the light of day.
	None of our speeches.
	So on, to my knowledge.
	Now, even though I pushed for it.
	So, you know, what happens is there is and there have been plans to do this, but they want to be...
	See, they want to control the narrative.
	So the military needs to have battles with ETs in which they show that they're winning.
	So this is where you get the fake alien invasion scenario.
	What they want to do, supposedly, is trot out all their wonderful hardware that they've got, that they're using off-planet, And do it in front of people so that we can move along technologically because we have a split between the secret space program employees, Space Force, etc., etc., who are going to work in this incredible high-tech way and then coming back to surface Earth and dealing with this really old-fashioned technology.
	Civilization that we have here, you know, with, you know, no technology really to speak of on the surface.
	It hasn't changed since the 60s, as far as I'm concerned, other than the Internet, of course.
	And so, you know, what we're talking about is, you know, getting rid of the tin cans in the sky and, you know, and the lack of understanding about time travel and, you know, the list goes on.
	So...
	When you're asking about a disclosure, you see, and this is true of Trump and his team, the minute you start disclosing the pedo empire that exists and the domination by reptilians and by these blood drinking Luciferians, You start disclosing the underground bases, and then you're disclosing the secret space program.
	And then, you know, everything is like a snowball.
	That's the one thing leading to the other leading to the other.
	And then, of course, the ET contact and all of the things that Project Camelot has been talking about for 16 years, as well as lots and lots of people who came before us.
	Wonderful people who, you know, who actually got killed for disclosing, you know, and that's people like Phil Schneider and, you know, even William Tompkins, whether he gave his life or just left the planet and, you know, they took him over to the Pleiades.
	I don't know what happened with him, but, you know, this, it just goes on.
	The list goes on and on.
	People that have given their life for true disclosure.
	So, That's my answer.
	My answer is actually in my visions of the future that seem to be in spite of whether I want them or not to come true.
	They have started to roll out and come true in front of my eyes.
	And one of the things I did see that I was in an underground base with the military.
	We were in a civil war and they were about to, I've said this before, so I'll just say it again, bomb Hawaii.
	And there is a huge gray underground base in Hawaii.
	Now, in my scenario, The soldiers that were involved in the war and were executing these orders, I knew, and the generals knew, but they didn't really know that they were bombing an underground base of ETs.
	So, yes, there may be some disclosure.
	It'll probably be...
	And even with the Trump situation, because again, how much can you reveal without going all the way down the slippery slope?
	And then you've got people that have been keeping all of the technology away from humans on planet Earth for so long.
	And you think we're at war now.
	Wait till you see what happens when that stuff starts coming out.
	So yes, we've been talking about this forever, but we are...
	So the revealing of the ET presence on Earth, you know, it's here.
	It's done.
	We're invaded.
	Okay?
	Hello.
	But, you know, I speak to people about this my whole life now.
	And even in the midst of this war, even in the midst of rescuing children from underground bases, they have not come out with that information anymore.
	Ask yourself why.
	Because you can't say you rescued a child from an underground base without admitting there is an underground base.
	And then people want to know, well, what is the underground base?
	And what does it contain?
	And who's there?
	And so on and so forth.
	You know, and it gets very messy.
	Wow.
	I think we'll end there.
	That was a great last question.
	And Penny, maybe do you want to retouch that?
	Do you want to add anything to what Carrie just said here about this ET contact?
	And then I'll ask both of you guys for a closing statement and where people can find you.
	But if you want to just take a minute here to address, because I saw you taking notes here as she was talking.
	Well, you know, I think the only thing I would add is that Part of the problem is that ETs really don't want to deal with us because we're so undeveloped.
	The consciousness is so low level and it's so full of fear, etc., etc.
	So I think what I would say is part of that disclosure, that real honest back and forth Yeah, this is what's going on really is going to depend on how much we develop ourselves, how far we go with that.
	And once you start that process, the question becomes, why do you need anybody else to tell you what you know?
	Who's running your perception?
	You or somebody else?
	And so that whole issue...
	Of waiting for confirmation from somebody, you know, whoever the authority is out there, that whole thing goes away and you know for yourself.
	And, you know, in our work, you know, Leavengood's work with some of the contactees in South America.
	And, you know, just my experiences down there, it's like, oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay, what else do we need except our own personal experience?
	And that has to be an invitation from you to them.
	And contact has to be made telepathically.
	And I encourage, you know, my own students to make that contact, to send those messages, to put them out there and to say, you know, be gentle because I might faint the first time I see you or something.
	But people are, I think they're more than ready, number one.
	Emotionally, but they don't have the consciousness to match.
	So that's disjointed right there.
	Very good.
	Thank you so much, Penny, for adding that.
	Now, I guess we're going to close the show and I'm going to ask you, Penny, to start.
	What are your words of encouragement here for the audience and where can people find your work?
	I think probably the only thing I would say is don't freak out.
	Just watch.
	Watch and don't commit to any one path until something in you says, okay, now.
	Just watch.
	Stay open.
	And as for my work, you know, Consciousness on Fire.
	I have a Patreon, you know, Patreon account.
	We have YouTube, BitChute.
	I have a Tea in Consciousness that we have three Mondays, the first three Mondays of each month, where people come from all over the globe and we talk and ask questions and it's great.
	And so, yeah, join in some of those.
	One of the things that I want to do is create an education system that really brings up children to be the kinds of advanced consciousness that we're all trying to be.
	We've all been programmed.
	You know, Carrie was talking about programming earlier.
	It's like, yeah, we've been programmed.
	And trying to expand your consciousness is a lot of deep programming.
	So why not start with the children and do a beautiful job to raise loving and intelligent and telepathic and clairvoyant and whatever kids.
	The future is our kids, of course.
	Thank you so much, Penny, for that.
	And how about you, Carrie?
	Last words of encouragement for the audience here to tackle the problems and the challenges that we are going to face this year in 2021 and working people for your beautiful work.
	Okay, well, I think I've kindly, you know, I've said we're in a revolution.
	I think that people have to sort of reframe their minds to understand that not only a revolution, so go back to the revolution and understand that we're dealing with enemies, foreign and domestic, and that we are, you know, this country is undergoing a split.
	And there's a split in consciousness, and you are choosing every day what side you are on and who you're supporting.
	And that says a lot about who you are and where your consciousness is.
	I do want to just make one statement about the fact that I don't quite agree with Penny as far as the idea that Beings don't want to associate it with us.
	Look, they are associating with us.
	And contact is everywhere.
	And so, you know, contrary to what you're saying, actually, I know there are certain races that view us as less than and unenlightened and all of that.
	I get it.
	And we're looking at each other and going, well, we have a lot of, you know, room to grow in terms of enlightenment.
	But I can also say that, strangely, it's, you know, the nature of the beast that we're dealing with, sort of, is that enlightenment is going to come really quickly to a lot of people.
	And that's just the way this kind of time is involved.
	In other words, this is a time, energetically, that the veils are moving away and that truth is going to be seen and that these people around us are going to have awakenings.
	They're not going to just stay the way they are now or the way they were in the past.
	So some of the awakening is going to be negative and in some cases they're going to become, you know, like zombies.
	I mean, I have a...
	Person who told me, you know, to go out and buy a gun and stock up on food.
	That was what they said after the inauguration, the so-called inauguration.
	So, you know, it kind of depends how you want to look at the future and how you want to look at consciousness.
	But I see a really high side and I do see the low side as well.
	So this is what we're going to face before us in the future.
	And I guess that's all I have to say is fight the good fight.
	Be the light warrior that you can be and are.
	And understand that I always like to say that when you're dealing with another human being, if you start to see them in the multiple lives that they've led, in other incarnations, in other bodies, in other places, you know, being, you know, associated with certain ET groups more than others.
	And you start to, you know, kind of, you can do all that if you look at the being in front of you.
	And it actually, you know, widens your heart.
	It allows you to embrace that being that you may not like in some ways in their incarnation that's right smack in front of you at the moment and see that they have great potential and that their avatar who has chosen for them to work on the dark side, maybe they'll be a whistleblower in their next life.
	So I like to keep the door open, keep the possibilities open.
	Some of these beings have been taken over.
	They're gone.
	Their bodies are being operated by a very negative entity.
	Just accept that.
	And that being is not there anymore.
	Hello.
	But bless them.
	Their soul resides in Source.
	And they have gone elsewhere.
	Wisely so.
	If they weren't strong enough to stand up against the invasion of their body and soul.
	So...
	Just want to say that, you know, sort of, you know, just to see bigger, see wider, question everything.
	That's all I have to say.
	And let's talk about your subscription program, folks, because both Penny and Carrie here are completely subscriber funded.
	And of course, YouTube is making it impossible and other platforms are making it impossible for us to make any remuneration, let alone making a salary, but just paying the bills here to produce all of this material.
	So Carrie, let's talk about some of your new subscription bases here and what people can expect here when they log into your new channel here.
	Okay, well, what I've done is because we've been in such dire straits, actually a lot of my videos are still free, although some have been gone into what's called the firewall, and it's $3 a month.
	Less than the price of a latte to subscribe.
	Tried to keep it dirt cheap.
	But it certainly adds up when you get a lot of subscribers.
	So it's been very slow.
	I have a huge YouTube channel, but to ask them to come over to my website and actually contribute is not always an easy road.
	And with fairness to the people that don't have any money whatsoever, I do understand.
	Don't worry about it.
	But I am trying to have that balance between still having free videos but also putting videos for the subscribers who are paying and they must get something for their money, right?
	So it's kind of a weird balance.
	At the same time, I said, I'm doing this weird thing with YouTube, so I hide my videos from YouTube.
	Wow.
	And they show up on my website.
	So don't go to my YouTube channel and say, oh, she's not doing anything lately.
	Okay?
	Because that's just like so...
	I just work so hard all the time.
	And, you know, so that's the trouble is that people don't know that it's everything.
	You know, I keep doing...
	I've got the banners and I'm saying...
	Go to my website.
	Go to my website.
	Until I'm blue in the face.
	But, you know, that's the situation.
	I am so...
	I'm like so on a thin ice on these things, on these platforms.
	And...
	It's very difficult, you know, because it doesn't get any easier.
	Every guest I have wants to talk about what's really going on.
	And the minute we open our mouths, you know, the video is already in dangerous territory.
	So until these corporations are taken down, and I fully believe that Trump will do that.
	I do believe their day is coming.
	Absolutely.
	But it's a double-edged sword because, again, they own the email addresses of all those millions of subscribers that I have on YouTube.
	I have no way to reach those people unless they come find me.
	So it's a weird, weird story.
	But, you know, with the grace of God, I have survived.
	And I want to thank everybody who has contributed and continues to make that possible.
	Very good.
	Well, thank you for that.
	And on that note as well, folks, please do subscribe to my new backup channel here as I'm trying to rebuild this community and repopulate a lot of the work that both Kerry and Penny have helped me produce here over the last year.
	So please do help me and like, share, and subscribe on this channel.
	And of course, if you want to and if you can support me financially, you can do so at patreon.com forward slash beyondmystic.
	And if you're looking for the Insider Access Pass, Where I put all of this information that cannot reside anywhere else because of the censorship rules.
	And I do also there produce extra added value content for the Patreon members who help me do this work here for you guys on YouTube.
	So guys, we started the show by saying we need to talk about discernment.
	We need to go within.
	We need to stop looking for all of this external validation.
	Both Penny and Carrie have...
	Concluded with points very similar to that.
	So I encourage you to use that muscle.
	And if you've already done the work and you're already there, even though you're being gaslit right now, you know, to crazy levels like never seen before, don't go back.
	Don't go back towards that gate.
	You've already made it.
	Keep going.
	Have confidence in yourself.
	Trust your heart and everything will be okay.
	I'm Jean-Claude at Beyond Mystic.
	Have a great evening.

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