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Jan. 13, 2021 - Project Camelot
01:36:39
PENNY BRADLEY: SUPER SOLDIER
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Okay, we're going live.
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Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I have Penny Bradley with me and I'm very excited to talk to her and to hear what she has to say about her background and everything.
And what we're going to do is just really quickly put a couple of things on the screen here.
So just stand by here.
I want to let everyone know that I've opened a channel over on Telegram.
I'm going to show you that channel kind of thing.
So it's a Project Hamlet.
It says Project Hamlet.
I've been putting the links out there, but I'm posting all of the intel that I get now into this channel over here.
It's also on my website, whenpossible.com.
But what happens is because it's so fast and furious, it's much easier to do it on Telegram than even on my website, just in terms of time elements.
So that's where you can go.
It's free, very easy to sign on.
Trump is there, his team is there, as well as, well, John B. Wells has a channel, and Simon Parks is about to go over there.
I don't know if he's actually set it up, but he was planning to do it today.
So this is where I put, and you can see where it says breaking right here.
I've already...
Put some very interesting intel that I got today or last night from a couple different sources.
So just to be aware.
And what I'm going to do here now is...
Actually, stop that.
Okay.
And now I'm going to bring you over to my website where I have...
Got Penny Bradley's short...
Let's see.
Hold on one second here.
I've got to put this on the screen as well.
Sorry, it's been a crazy morning already.
Lots happening, as you know.
I can say that I guess people saw Trump's speech and that's a whole other issue.
So stand by here.
Just trying to get some of these things out the way.
Okay, and because this is all live, we just try to identify the channel and so on.
Okay, so now I'm going to take you over to my website where I've got her short bio.
So, as you can see from the bio here, she was kidnapped by the CIA at the age of four back in 1959.
Mine was fractured, taken to Montauk, and given several alters.
And that went on for about five years.
She was taken to Mars through the Long Island, New York Jump Room, Aries Prima, and then to the main base of the breakaway German group on Mars.
She went to, I'm not sure how to say that, on Mars, then served in the German militia as a fighter pilot until the end of the Mars War.
And it goes on.
So now I'm going to talk to you, basically, Penny, and ask you to augment that to explain more about whatever wasn't said there, and so go ahead.
Okay, my understanding is that the treaty that the American government signed with The Germans in Antarctica required 150,000 Americans to be turned over to the breakaway German group every year from 1960 forward.
And it actually took them until 1964 to start delivering.
And I was in that first group that was delivered to the Germans on Mars.
And the Germans had hoped that the People that were part of this program would want to stay with them.
But to prevent that, the CIA shot us up with ET DNA on the pretext that it would give us sci-abilities that would be useful to the Germans.
But they understood what the point was, and this was to deliberately block that.
I had abilities that made me suitable to be a navigator.
Which means, in practical terms, it means I go into hyperspace and take physical objects with me.
And that's how the hyperdrive engine in the German fleet operates.
And most ships, they have to have an ET to do this because most humans, even augmented humans, do not have this capability.
This was a DNA function.
It was not an AI one.
I spent five years as a guest at Langley.
I've had a DOD agent inform me that I'm the last survivor of the class of 64.
And yes, that is the term she used.
We had 80% losses in that first year.
These were children, like me, bright, sensitive, psionic abilities coming from families related to the Merovingians.
And 80% of us died irretrievably during that first year.
And we were ranging in age from three to six at the time.
By the time we got to Mars, our group That it started off at about 2000 was down to 20.
So there were huge, huge losses.
And why the Department of Defense allowed the CIA to do this to us, I have no idea.
But by the time I got to Mars, I had the 13 cube array of Altars that Stuart Swardlow describes in his book, 13 Cubed.
I have reintegrated 31 of them.
And the CIA got mad and broke my shoulder in June of 2019 because I was reintegrating altars.
They told me not to do that again.
I haven't.
I had surgery.
I still have trouble dressing and undressing by myself since my partner has been helping me with that for the last year and a half.
When I got to Mars, I went to Schule, which is the German word for school, and I talk about Schule on Mars as separate from school in California when I came back.
Because they taught very different things.
And I have been researching what I remember from Shula.
And it was 90% objective truth, 10% propaganda.
Where school in California was 40% objective truth and 60% propaganda.
So it's been a ride.
I normally cuss, so you may catch me self-censoring.
I grew up in Tulare County.
I went to a labor camp school.
Most of the students spoke Spanish, and I was one of the few who did not.
But I was assigned to tutor the other kids in the class because otherwise I caused trouble.
So I'm trained by that to be able to put complicated concepts into simple English.
So I don't always remember the proper terms, but they would have been in German anyway.
Because I did primarily serve with the German Breakaway Civilization out there.
It translates into the Federation of Free German States.
And they consider themselves free of the bankers and Jesuits.
And you would have to understand the history of the Weimar Republic to understand why that matters to them.
Most Americans don't even know the Weimar Republic ever existed.
Oh, okay.
So you're...
You're saying that they're free of the bankers and the Jesuits.
What do you mean by that?
Historically...
Historically, the Jesuits were the assassins of the Vatican.
And when...
Okay...
They went through and did the Crusades to eliminate certain bloodlines that were in the Middle East.
And then they realized that there were these same bloodlines through the Germanic tribes, through the Merovingians, through the Albigensians.
And so they went through Europe and created...
There was a Crusade that took out the Albigensians of southern France, northern Spain.
There was another Crusade that was That basically decimated Latvia and Lithuania and kept going until Poland intervened and said no more.
The Inquisition was part of this.
They were looking for a certain bloodline.
And it has been an ongoing attempted elimination of that bloodline.
For thousands of years.
Now, you have to be really careful when you start listening to these people that are doing research because they'll have you hating your own family if you're not careful.
That was the case for me because I was doing my family tree because I had an inner compulsion to and then I started reading these people online and And certain families were demonic.
Well, I'm finding those same families in my family tree a thousand years ago.
Does that mean I'm demonic?
I didn't even know I was related to them until I did the family tree.
But that's the bloodline that was targeted for the space program.
And I'm not the only one saying that.
Max Spears said that in his first interview with Miles Johnson.
That's recorded online.
In fact, that was why I looked in my tree, because I was already having memories of space.
He said that.
I looked in my tree, and sure enough, I was.
Okay, okay.
So this, in a sense, is a...
Sort of a different look, but similar to what William Tompkins was talking about.
And it is true that the German people were targeted by the beings from Aldebaran.
And those are the ones that decided that they were most suitable for the space program and started giving them technology, etc.
Not exactly.
It was, they were doing CE5. That's what the Vril Gesellschaft was doing, was CE5. And they contacted the Aldebarans.
And that was how they got the information.
So you need to be careful who you contact doing CE5, because you don't know who you're talking to.
Well, you mean they were doing CE5. Who was doing CE5? The Vril Gesellschaft.
You know them as the Vril Society?
Sure.
Maria Vorsic, they were doing CE5. Yes.
Okay.
If you want to call it that.
But that also, it's kind of the cart before the horse or the horse before the cart kind of a discussion.
So I don't think we need to get into that too deeply here.
But in terms of your own experience, you say that you were taken as a young child.
You did what I guess you're talking about would be like a 25 and back type of situation.
I did 25 years on Mars.
Yes.
And another 25 years on a ship after that.
Okay.
If you count my five years at Langley, I did a 55 and back.
Okay, fair enough.
Now, just wondering, what is your recall like and how did your recall come to you?
Did it come to you over time?
Were you regressed?
What was that process like?
The target of an NSA unit who deliberately used my remember code on me and kept track of me for two years afterwards.
And the major in charge of the unit taught me how to be a dissident and not be arrested.
So I had ongoing training after they gave me my memories back.
And my memories came in one lump, and they were in German, which I don't speak it very well.
I read it a whole lot better than I speak it.
So figuring out what the memories were has been a core problem, because I get the visuals, I get the sounds, I get the smells, the tastes, the feels, but I can't understand what they're saying.
Okay.
So it's been a really difficult process.
My memories were restored in April of 2013.
I was not planning to go public.
I was planning to just quietly do counseling with other veterans and started being shot at with energy weapons in 2016.
And after I got shot the third time in six weeks, I talked to my partner and Said, okay, this isn't stopping.
Bill Cooper said that if you know you're going to be killed, you might as well hide in the spotlight and that way they verify your testimony.
So that was the approach we took.
And I went with the interviewers who were believing me at the time.
I ended up with Jay Campbell and Rex Baer.
It was Decoders of Truth session number 11.
That was my first interview that's public.
And James Rink has interviewed me several times after that.
And over the course of the last four years, I have a radio show and a TV show and people ask to come on my show.
Okay.
And when was this that you first came out?
September of 2016.
All right.
And so you had your own show.
Is this past tense?
You no longer have a show?
No, I'm still on every Saturday, 2 to 4 p.m.
All right.
And what channel are you on a certain radio?
I'm on GERN, Global Enlightenment Radio Network, and the show is called Nachtwaffen Pilot.
All right, great.
I'm sure people would like to know that.
Now, I think we did include all of your links on your page so people can find that.
So in terms of your family members, were they also involved in this program, do you think, or were any of them?
Did you have brothers and sisters, that sort of thing?
I have two brothers and two sisters that are surviving.
I've had two siblings die very early.
My youngest brother shared with James Rank that he has memories, but he has not divulged any of them.
And he and one of my sisters have small birth defects consistent with the DNA changes that the CIA has done.
All of my children, I have three, They had personality changes in their mid-childhood range between 6 and 12, depending on the kid.
And where they would be a sweet kid before that and after that they were hostile.
My youngest was 6 years old at the time and would actually stand in the middle of the room stiff With his hands and fists and just scream at the top of his lungs for hours on end.
And I would just pick him up and put him in his room, shut the door and say, when you can behave, you can come out.
So it wasn't a trap thing.
It was...
I didn't know how else to deal with the behavior.
Wow.
Okay.
Now somebody here is asking...
We have a chat room alongside the show.
They're asking about the Weimar portion of your testimony here.
Can you get into more detail of that?
The Weimar Republic was instituted by the Allies at the end of the First World War.
You have a Teutonic tribal society that has never had democracy as part of their views.
They have always been ruled by a family group.
And suddenly at the end of the war, the Allies decide they have to have a republic.
Nobody knows how to operate one.
Okay?
The treaty at the end of World War I demanded huge reparations from Germany and also cut off cash income from anyone else.
These people, they had to buy everything.
The only resources they had were iron ore.
And for centuries, some of these, because they never united into one country until the 1800s, some of these smaller countries were actually using their citizens as mercenaries because they had no other resources.
All they had were their own soldier skills.
That was why we had so many German mercenaries in on the British side in our revolution was because they had no other resources.
So this was how they fed their families was by selling their sons into warfare.
So this is their tradition And then they're suddenly hit with a republic that doesn't know what they're doing.
Total incompetence.
And then you have the bankers are printing money as fast as they possibly can.
And it got to the point where it took an entire wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread or to buy a cup of coal.
And people who were on fixed incomes, like the veterans and widows from World War I, were literally starving and freezing to death.
Millions of Germans died in this process.
Okay, it sounds like you were in favor of Hitler's Germany, is that right?
No.
Okay, so can you clarify?
I'm against the Weimar Republic.
Okay, and...
I think it was a stupid idea.
I think it was meant to genocide the German people.
Okay, but this is something that happened after the war.
I'm sort of talking about, obviously, before the war and during the war.
This was after World War I and the situation that allowed the rise of someone.
It didn't have to be Hitler.
It could have been anybody that could figure out how to put the people back to work and food on the table.
Okay.
So, so, okay.
And when he came to power, he got in bed with the Jesuits.
And as far as the German people that I served with, they hate the bankers and the Jesuits.
And they told me in Shula that Hitler was the worst thing that happened to them.
All right.
In terms of your parents, was your father in the military?
No.
And what about your mother, your grandfather, that sort of thing?
My grandfather was...
I had local guy for the civilian air thing during World War II, where they went into tunnels to escape He was in charge of that.
Okay.
Was he based in Germany, are you saying?
No.
Britain?
My family has been in the United States since the 1600s.
I qualify for Daughters of the American Republic.
Okay, why?
I'm one of those people.
We've been here forever.
My family was exiled by Cromwell in the 1600s.
Okay, what tunnels?
I'm just trying to figure out what you're talking about here.
Going into tunnels to escape what?
It was air raid tunnels.
In the United States?
Yeah.
In Oklahoma and California.
Okay.
My mom's family's from Oklahoma.
My dad's family's from Arkansas.
Uh-huh.
I don't know if you've ever heard of J.J. Barnes, the Hanging Judge of Arkansas.
I'm descended from him.
We've been here forever.
I'm not German at all.
Okay, fair enough.
What's your name?
I'm the poor relation of the Merovingian families, and there are some Native Americans who married in.
Okay.
I understand.
In fact, my mom's mom was Sephardi Jewish.
Okay.
The Germans in space never once hassled me for being Jewish.
They did hassle me for having ET DNA. Who hassled you?
The Germans.
They called me a miskovert.
That's an abortion that lived in That's what they called me as my name.
Sorry, when you say the Germans, what Germans, where?
The only Germans that I will be talking about are the Germans in space, the breakaway civilization.
Okay.
They have nothing to do with Germany on Earth except that they originally started off there.
There is no interconnection.
And they are not Nazis.
Okay.
And where do you think they originated from?
The aristocracy that escaped Hitler after they tried to kill him.
Okay.
Well, that's an interesting way of looking at it.
That's how they put it.
And that's what the history describes is that they tried to kill Hitler and then there was a base in Antarctica.
Okay, those two things kind of...
There was a base in Antarctica before Hitler was...
They tried to kill Hitler.
I mean, Hitler was probably...
Attempts on him happened multiple times throughout the war.
So, and after.
But he survived, as you may know, in South America.
And...
Antarctica was established, New Berlin was established during Hitler's reign and continues to this day for that matter.
My understanding is that the main part of the base was moved to Mars at least a decade ago.
Okay, that's perfectly possible.
As well as the moon.
So you dealt with the moon and you dealt with Mars, correct?
No, I dealt with Mars.
Not at all?
I have no memories of ever being on the moon.
Okay.
All right.
I went directly through a jump gate, not a ship, not a rocket, but through a jump gate wormhole from Long Island, New York, to Eris Prima, Which is the base that is in Mons Olympus.
Okay, what age were you?
The big thing on Mars.
Okay, what age were you when you did that jump, do you think?
Nine.
Nine years old, okay.
And I was wearing white cotton hospital pajamas and I was in a group of about a dozen kids that we went together.
Okay, and you think that you joined a colony on Mars, correct?
I joined a base on Mars that had women, children, but it was a military base.
Okay, but you don't think it was part of, let's say, the German secret space program?
Of course it was part of the German secret space program.
It just seems that you're trying to make some kind of distinction about the particular Germans that you were affiliated with.
The Germans set up each planet as its own unit.
The Germans.
The Germans in space set up each planet Set of colonies as their own units.
Okay, well...
So, Mars is not Ceres, is not Titan, is not Mercury, is not the Moon.
It's its own unit.
And it is beneath over commando, which you would call high command.
High command does run it all, but they have local autonomy.
Okay, but Germany didn't exist when, you know, when people came from other planets.
So you can't say the Germans.
What are you talking about the Germans?
You mean the Anunnaki?
Who are you talking about?
I'm talking about the Germans who came from Antarctica after World War II. The breakaway civilization that I served with.
You just made a statement saying the Germans go to other planets and establish this and that.
You called them the Germans.
They have time travel.
There are a thousand colonies spread over a huge stretch of the Orion Spur.
And because of the time travel, those colonies are 400 years old.
We are talking trillions of With an S on the end.
Of people.
Of German descent.
They speak German out there.
They are the Germans.
Okay.
Alright.
It is a complete society.
Completely independent of Earth.
And they are tribal.
They are Teutonic.
They have...
Basically three religions going.
One is atheism.
Then they have a cult that they call Schwarzer Sonne, which has to do with basically secret society information, but no worship of anything.
And then the common people practice ancestor worship, which from the outside looks like acid fruit.
Looks like what?
Asatru?
I'm not sure what that is.
That's the revival of German paganism.
Oh, all right.
So, you know, that's kind of an interesting take on things.
In terms of your knowledge about what you're talking about right now.
I was the first officer from the German fleet to come forward.
I'm used to people thinking in terms of William Tompkins and it's the evil Nazis out there.
I'm sorry you're stuck in that mindset and can't get past that.
I grew up with those people that you think are like that.
I'm from the other side of that war.
Slow down, slow down.
Actually, you don't know what I think.
And I also have some German in my bloodline.
And so I'm not making a presumption.
I'm just trying to clarify what you're saying, since it seems to be kind of jumping in a lot of different directions.
And so it's not because I'm saying, you know, I'm trying to Contest your information.
I'm trying to clarify it so I understand what you're trying to say.
So, you know, this is not a fight or a contest.
We're just trying to get to the root of what you know, how you came to know it, and share it with the listeners here.
Okay?
So don't take offense because I'm asking you these questions.
It doesn't mean I have a prejudice and I think that all Germans are Nazis, etc.
No.
Actually, I am aware of the Celtic background, etc.
And there's a lot more going on here.
But let's not talk about what my beliefs are.
Let's talk about what it is you have to say.
So you're saying that you can't come from a race of Germans that you believe you were abducted by them for some reason.
No, I was abducted by the CIA. And taken to Mars.
And turned over to the Germans.
Because there's a treaty between the Germans and the United States.
Right.
Because the Germans won the Battle of Operation High Jump.
And they gave the United States a treaty that they could operate however they saw fit as long as they met certain requirements.
And one of them was to turn over Americans to serve in their military.
And I was one of them.
Okay.
Well, it sounds like you're very proud of that.
Is that right?
I don't see a reason to be ashamed of it.
Okay, I'm just asking the question.
It's not pride as much as I'm in this to get the CIA to stop kidnapping children.
There is nothing we do out there in any faction I'm aware of that cannot be done by consenting adults.
Okay, so you...
I was kidnapped by the CIA when I was four years old.
I was raped, I was sodomized, I was broken into almost 2200 altars.
And I'm still having issues with them.
Major issues.
I hear you.
So you believe all of that happened to you before you were given to the Germans on Mars?
Yes.
Okay.
And when you were given to the Germans on Mars, why would they do all of that before they gave you to them?
Because the CIA sells alters plus a tissue sample to the other factions.
Right.
Well, when you say they sell altars, you know, you are one being, so they're selling you.
I mean, your altars come with you.
Isn't that correct?
What they do, and I've been awake for this process, is they pick you up physically.
They put you in a tank.
Then there's technology, and you can see the clone body in the other tank.
And I'm in this body inside a yellow gel tank.
And I'm looking at this basically dead-looking clone, and then I feel really dizzy, and then I'm in the dead-looking clone looking back.
They pull me out, put clothes on me, activate the altar they want, and that's who I am for the duration until the clone body is killed.
Then I'm back in my regular body, and then they return me here.
Okay, so when you say they sell altars...
This is a regular, ongoing occurrence in my life.
Alright, so when you say they sell altars, what you meant is they sell the clones.
They sell a tissue sample they can grow the clones with, and they sell the use of the altar that's trained for them.
That's why I was with the CIA for five years.
They were...
Doing basic training on the altars.
Okay, but if they take a tissue sample, they really wouldn't need you to get into a tank of water and get into the other body then.
Except that they need the consciousness.
They need the trained altar.
Okay, but once they've established the altar in the clone, then they sell the clone.
Is that not right?
Yes.
Is that not what you're saying?
They sell it ahead of time.
They sold all of this stuff by the time I was nine years old.
And I'm 65 and they're still using my alters and clones of me.
Okay, fair enough.
I mean, they definitely have to transfer a consciousness into a clone of some kind.
All of the American factions use clones with Transferred consciousness in them, and they activate the altar they have paid for.
All of the American factions do that, and that would be Kruger, Monarch, the Space Marines, Why are you emphasizing, just out of curiosity, why are you emphasizing Americans doing this?
Because the Germans don't.
They use you in your regular body and they treat you with respect.
I was treated far better by the Germans than I was by the CIA. Or the altar that has served with...
Because you've actually told us about many different factions.
So which faction of Germans do you think don't do this process the way you think the CIA does?
Do you know?
There is one group...
There is one civilization of Germans in space.
They have subgroups that have autonomy.
Okay, but when you're talking about the Americans...
When you're talking about the United States and you go to California or you go to Florida, they operate separately, but they're still part of the same thing.
Sure, but I'm trying to get back to Germans on the planet because Germans on the planet have joined our secret space program here in America.
So when you said Germans in general...
Germans on the planet are not part of the breakaway civilization.
They were left behind, abandoned.
Okay.
You don't believe the secret space program in America and made up of Germans and ex-Nazis, etc., is part of this breakaway civilization?
No, I don't.
They are a separate and competing group.
Okay.
Now, in terms of...
When they decided to...
So they sold you to this German colony on Mars and you went to work for them.
Is that correct?
They put me in school, Schule, for 10 years.
Then I went to work for them.
Okay.
And what did you do exactly?
I was a fighter pilot during the Mars War.
I flew air reconnaissance.
I flew bombing missions on raptors.
I occasionally was sent to capture mantids for intel.
And my ongoing duty was to pick up human remains because we had a regen tank and could bring them back from the dead for up to four months.
The longer they were dead, the less memory they would have when they came back.
But I was not to make that judgment.
I was to bring back everybody.
Okay.
Are you familiar with an interview I did with a young boy called Bariska?
No.
I haven't watched a lot of your interviews.
There were certain people that answered questions I had about what I was remembering.
And I... Tended to binge on their information because it was relevant.
And I've been trying to keep my memories of the German breakaway civilization as clean as possible because there's so much out there that is propaganda and not objective truth.
Okay, fair enough.
So, when exactly did you more or less awaken to all of this about yourself?
April 2013, when the NSA unit activated my memories.
Prior to that, you didn't have any memory?
I had anomalies.
I would get angry and the electronics around me would blow.
Um...
I had memories of being a child crawling through the walls.
Well, the actual memory was being nailed into the wall and left to suffocate.
So yeah, I had breakthrough stuff.
I also had alters.
I've had alters my entire life since I was taken back to when I was four.
You know, you can't hide when you shift.
Okay, so you had alters.
How did that affect your sort of life here on Earth up to the age of, well, however old you were in 2013?
I was in my 50s in 2013.
Right, so how did it affect your life in those 50 years?
My parents beat me regularly, accused me of lying about things when I knew I was telling the truth.
I have had trouble maintaining relationships.
It's pretty hard to stay in a stable relationship whenever you shift all the time and can't explain what's going on.
At least I wasn't out cheating on them.
I was just shifting personalities.
My first husband gave me 10 concussions because he thought I was insubordinate.
My second husband Slept with a.38 under the pillow aimed at me.
Both of them cheated on me.
Both of them tried to kill me.
First husband broke my neck.
Second husband poisoned me for life insurance.
The man I'm with now, we've been together for 20 years and there has been no violence, no death threats, no nothing.
But he is aware I have alters and He says there's one in particular that's hostile and that if she were a man that he would punch her.
Okay, now did you have to work for a living when you were growing up?
I started tutoring in high school.
I worked as a computer programmer right out of junior college and I had Three kids with a metabolic disorder and I worked cleaning houses and doing home health care because the hours were adaptable around doctor appointments.
And when I got hurt at work, I started doing other things and kept having problems at work.
One place, when they let me go, they said, you're just too weird to work with the public.
And my doctor had me on Prozac to keep me calm, and I was able to work at Walmart taking that.
And I got hurt again at Walmart and ended up paralyzed for almost a month and had Have been on disability since.
And since I wasn't having to deal with the public, I went off the Prozac.
So I've been off Prozac since 2012.
So this is the real me.
Alters attitude and all.
Okay.
And did you...
Find that you had been put with the first two men you were talking about.
Was that a conscious choice to marry them or do you think that they were sort of placed in your milieu?
I think they were placed in my milieu.
Both of them were telepathic and they were both from outside my area and One day he just showed up and basically took over.
And with the man I'm with now, I was the part-time janitor at a local limestone quarry.
And he was the security guard.
And because I was being poisoned, I was getting to where it was taking me longer and longer to do my job.
And I was paid by the job, not by the hour.
So there are laws about being on a quarry site that you can't be by yourself.
So he was spending more and more time babysitting me.
And when I divorced that husband, it was arsenic poisoning and I was in pretty bad shape.
And I couldn't make a living and he invited me to move in with him and we've been together ever since.
Okay, and so you believe that this second husband was poisoning you?
Is that right?
There's blood tests to prove it.
Okay, fine.
You're saying he was the person doing the poisoning is what I'm trying to establish.
There was no one else with motive and opportunity.
The...
Life insurance policy was for half a million dollars and it was exposed during the divorce.
So he had motive.
Half a million dollars is quite a bit of motive.
Okay.
So in terms of your coming forward and talking about what it is you know and being activated by the NSA, what do you think that the NSA's motivation for this was?
To embarrass the CIA. Okay.
And how does this...
They're in a funding war.
A hunting war?
Funding.
F-U-N-D funds money.
Okay, sorry.
They're in a funding war.
Funding war.
Okay, great.
So...
There's no other rational motive for it.
There is no other reason for them to expose...
That there was any kind of CIA involvement in the Germans in space.
There's no other reason that I can come up with.
And yes, it's racked my brain.
And both of the agents that I knew died in 2016.
So I have no way of asking them.
Not that they would have told me the truth anyway.
And these are NSA agents?
Yes, they were part of the unit that did Russian translations.
They were both officially Air Force, but were NSA-affiliated, worked out of Maryland.
And how did you meet them?
Facebook.
But they really were who they said they were.
I met the real world, saw their identification, and The one who activated my memories was taking me into the base and showed his ID to get on campus.
And I had a panic attack, so he took me out.
Okay, so they contacted you via Facebook back in, was this 2016?
They contacted me.
The agent who activated my memories Contacted me in 2010 because I was a political activist.
Oh, I see.
and what kind of political activist were you?
I was part of something that was being called New Purple Nation, and it was very similar to libertarians.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know.
All right.
Fair enough.
I've basically been a truther since I was a child and JFK was shot.
So my father was a John Birch follower and my grandfather was a New Deal Democrat.
And between them I learned you have to actually do your homework.
Sure.
Okay, so in terms of the NSA contacts that you had, did these two work together or were they sequential?
How did you, you know, how did that work?
They were working together.
I see.
They were definitely working together.
One was a master sergeant and one was a major.
And they were definitely working together with the major in charge.
And the major is who taught me to be a dissident and not be arrested.
And I have been following his advice.
And are you saying they're both dead?
They're both dead.
And how did they die?
The master sergeant got shot up with a drug while he was in the hospital for a lung drain.
He had COPD. And the major...
Got shot with an ice pellet and ended up with a stroke and died in the VA hospital six months later and left a widow and a five-year-old son with huge, massive bills.
Okay, and they worked, both of them, for the NSA? They were in the same unit in the NSA. I met other people from that unit, but they were not part of this project.
Which was Activate Penny.
I'm sorry, they were not part of the project that was what?
Activate Penny.
Oh, I see.
So did you meet both individuals in person?
Yes.
On multiple occasions or just once?
I only met the major once.
The master sergeant I met again in 2016, about six months before he died.
Okay, and did you consider them, like, friendly?
Were you friends with them?
I thought we were friends until I realized that they had activated my memories.
And then I realized I was a project.
Why is that a bad thing that they activated your memories?
It was a violation of trust.
Thank you.
Are you saying because you didn't want to know who you were?
Because they didn't even ask.
Well, then how did it happen?
I was set up for what I thought was a romantic encounter.
And the code word was used repeatedly during that event.
And by the end of the situation, there had been a fake wedding with no paperwork filed.
So it was completely fraudulent.
This was not an upfront friendship.
This was a PSYOP. And I was stupid and I fell for it.
So was the romantic relationship with one of the NSA officers or with a different person?
It was with one of the NSA officers.
It was with the master surgeon.
Okay, so he got involved with you on a fraudulent level and in the process somehow you woke up or did they give you drugs or what?
They used code words.
For me to remember.
In my particular case, it was Free Dorothy.
That was what made me remember, was the repeated use of the code phrase Free Dorothy.
Well, let me ask you this.
do you think that all of your altars would consider waking up to your memories as a bad thing?
Most of my altars would like to be the primary and just live life on their own terms.
Okay.
The fact of being alters, the fact of being part of a hive of basically 2200 is something that they don't want to deal with.
And they sure don't want to share their consciousness with all of them.
And none of them...
Wait, wait, wait.
I'm sorry.
Are you saying you have 2200 altars or are you saying you're part of a hive of Germans or something?
2200 altars.
You're saying you have 2200 altars?
Yes.
Okay.
And...
That's what 13 by 13 by 13, a.k.a.
13 cubed means.
It's two less than 2200.
And I have reintegrated 31 of them.
I haven't even gotten a drop in the bucket yet.
Okay.
And do you know at any given time which altar is like, for example, here you are talking to me.
Do you know which altar is talking to me?
Sometimes.
Not always?
Not always.
And I have to go back through and watch my interviews afterwards to know what I said, because they don't all share memory.
All right.
Fair enough.
So in terms of the alters, were they all involved in the, you know, being a pilot and so on and so forth?
No.
Some are assassins.
Some are translators.
They don't all speak English.
The languages that I have had filter around on the altars that I do know about are French, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese.
And there's one that plays Latin.
Okay.
So, in terms of, you know, you say you have a family, you're bringing up children.
You have two children, did you say?
I have three grown sons who are all estranged from me because of what they perceived I was like as their mother.
Altars and motherhood are not a good combo.
Okay.
And if I had realized that ahead of time, I probably would not have had children.
Well, okay.
When were you aware that you had alters?
Like, at what age did you become aware of that?
Not after the age of nine?
I knew when I was seven that I had one that she shared memory with me.
And she was somewhat passive.
So I wasn't worried about that one.
Yeah.
But apparently, from what my partner now says, I have one who gets really hostile.
And...
Well, out of 3,300...
2,200.
Sorry, how many?
2,200.
2,200.
Okay, so out of 2,200, one getting hostile is maybe not bad odds.
All right.
But when you're raising kids, having one that pops up and you don't remember, that can create real issues.
So did you ever go to, say, a therapist?
I did in 1984, after I killed myself and was sent back.
And he was a Freudian.
And just let me talk.
Okay.
Stream of consciousness.
And never gave a diagnosis.
Never gave a real treatment.
But at one point he finally said, I won't call the police if you don't show up.
So, I have no idea what the man actually thought of me.
I see.
Okay.
So, here you are, you're coming forward, and you've been coming forward since 2016.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Okay.
And when did you start, like, your own radio show?
I started doing YouTube.
November 2019 because YouTube was going through their changes and they sent me a message saying you have to upload content or you're going to lose your channel.
Up to that point I had been doing playlists of my interviews and I was tagging other people because some of them were monetized and I didn't want to steal the money from them.
I felt they had done me a solid by interviewing me.
I wasn't going to undermine that by stealing their money.
My personal ethics.
So I was not uploading anything until YouTube said I had to.
So I started interviewing friends from the community, trying to document the people The people who can carry a thought in a bucket.
You interview people.
You know what I mean.
Sure.
Yes.
The ones who can be rational, who don't use religion or politics to explain everything, who allow the topic to stand on its own too.
Those were the people I was interviewing.
Whether it be ET contact, whether it be UFO people, whether it be super soldiers, whether it be SSP. And those are separate but overlapping communities.
And so that was who I was interviewing.
Oh, and the Anuna community, the folks who believe they are incarnated Anunnaki.
Those are the communities that I'm covering on my YouTube channel.
And last August, I was offered a show on Global Enlightenment Radio Network for free, not having to pay the usual studio charge.
And I jumped at it.
And I'm basically interviewing those same people there on air.
And it's people who can carry a thought in a bucket.
Okay, fine.
A lot of this community, people are not grounded enough to be able to do that.
Okay, fair enough.
Yes, I agree.
Now, wondering if you have met, among other super soldiers that are out on the circuit talking, etc., Did you know any of these people in your travels, you know, as your alters, you know, in, I guess, off-planet, in this community, on Mars, etc.?
Anybody that you connected with among those, that group?
Okay.
I remember James Rank from my Kruger altar.
Okay.
I remember Rochelle Stanford.
In Australia, from that same Kruger altar, there is a group of people who are not public that are my personal friends, and I remember them from Nachtwaffen.
And most of the Nachtwaffen veterans are refusing to come public because there's so much hostility.
And yes, I've gotten defensive because of it.
I'm usually told that I'm a Nazi and I'm not.
I'm usually told I'm racist and I'm not.
And I'm usually told that I want to kill people and I don't.
And you're told this by who?
Interviewers.
Co-guests.
The audience.
The audience.
It's not a friendly world if you're saying you served with the Germans.
And the other German veterans are not coming forward because of it.
There are a few out there that have bought into the propaganda and they're spreading more of the propaganda and they're doing just fine.
But the ones that actually have memories of More than here, there, and the other.
They're not coming forward because they've seen how I was treated.
I was on one interview with a lady in Britain, and her co-host spent the first hour screaming at me that I was a Nazi.
And I'm not.
Well, why did you say...
I'm basically a libertarian.
Fair enough.
Why would you subject yourself to that?
Why didn't you just hang up or something?
Because the co-guest that was coming on at the second hour was a friend of mine, and I didn't want to leave him to face that alone.
Okay.
So, I mean, I don't think that'd go over...
And she treated him really well.
I see.
But...
If you're saying somebody was actually berating you, were they berating you on the air?
On the air, yes.
I mean, that's a strange way to actually do a show.
That's what I thought.
I don't do my guests that way.
All right.
Now, in terms...
I want to kind of fast forward to today.
So with your background and everything that you...
Remember about your life or lives.
What do you think about what's going on on the planet today with Trump and the whole thing?
You're here in America, right?
I'm in California.
Right.
I'm in rural California in the mountains and where I live we are considered to be hillbillies.
I think a lot of what is going on right now has to do with propaganda that has been spread by both sides and that if we're not very careful, we're going to end up in a civil war and lose it all.
Okay.
That's my gut feeling.
At some point, we are going to have to stop all of the yelling and screaming And talk to each other, or we're never going to find a solution.
Because no matter who sits in the White House next month, we are all still going to be here with each other.
Sure.
And so we're going to have to talk to each other, and we're going to have to find some common ground to keep this thing going.
Mm-hmm.
That's where I'm coming from.
I don't want reasonable people being so upset by propaganda that they're getting themselves thrown in prison.
I don't want reasonable, rational people in every other arena ending up shooting their neighbor over politics.
Now, there are some issues that need to be addressed.
And I don't think they're going to be addressed at the national level.
Such as?
Such as the pedophilia, such as the overtaxation of the common person, as in the lockdowns that have destroyed 80% of the economy in my area.
Most of those things in California are the fault of our governor.
Trump had nothing to do with them.
Right.
So, I don't think people are really paying attention to what's really happening.
I think they're just listening to whatever media they're listening to and they're not thinking.
Okay.
So, in terms of AI, do you think that you're dealing with AI now?
I think there is a thing called V2K, voice to skull technology.
The CIA has it, and it's currently being run by an AI. And when I'm not on camera, I wear a barrier.
It's a cap that's nylon, a nylon knit embedded with nickel, and it blocks the The V2K, so that is, I would say, 98% of the AI influence in my personal world.
So I use a barrier method to stop it.
Okay.
When I was in space, I was part of the Schweitzer Sonne, and we drank black goo, which is an AI. But that was removed from my system before I was sent back.
So I have none of that now.
Or I would be a lot smarter than I am.
Because it triples your IQ. So there's no way I would be operating at the level I am if I still had it in my system.
It also improves your health and I wouldn't be in the shape I am if it were still in my system.
When you were in space, what are you talking about?
Being on Mars or another planet or what?
Any time I was off Earth and with the Germans.
Any of the Germans.
All right.
Does that mean you were off Earth on other planets or in ships off Earth?
I was mostly on ships.
I see.
I did 25 years on Mars and the rest of the times I've been taken to serve with the Germans, I've been on ships.
My abilities to go hyperspace and take objects with me are very rare among humans, even humans shot up with ET DNA. And so Don't waste that.
Okay, what do you mean by take objects with you?
Like what?
Like the ship and everybody in it.
Isn't the ship already able to go into space?
What you have is a symbiotic relationship between the ship's computer that does the calculations and the navigator Who actually has the psionic ability to jump into hyperspace and take objects with.
Neither one works by itself.
And then you have the engine which runs the capabilities.
So without an engine and the computer here, I can go into hyperspace.
But I can't control when and where.
When I'm there and shipped into the computer, we become a symbiotic unit.
And I am still there, but so is the computer.
And at that point, we are a unit.
And we take the ship into hyperspace.
We bring it out with no organic life forms stuck inside inorganic things like walls and floors, which is what happened to the USS Eldridge.
They didn't have a navigator.
Okay.
So, are you familiar with my interview that I just did?
Well, actually, I've interviewed him several times.
What's his name?
About AI and this exact thing to do with the ships and all that.
Let's see, David Adair is who I'm talking about.
I haven't seen your interviews with him.
I've seen a couple of things where he talked about his background, what he did in Area 51.
Okay.
Well, one of the things he talks about is the fact that the ship engine that he interacted with was taken out.
So he didn't ever see the shell, you know, of the ship.
But the shell of the ship, he said, had its own...
Well, he called it a consciousness.
But it apparently running it, which was a kind of...
It's probably an AI. So what I'm wondering is whether or not you're calling it a computer...
And are you really talking about an AI? The ship's computers are quantum computers and they are based on human DNA. So at what point is the consciousness human or is it AI? There's a lot of questions that have to be asked about technologies that are in use out there.
At what point does an enhanced human who looks like a Borg become a cyborg?
And at what point does that cyborg stop being a human and start being a robot?
There's a lot of questions.
And just because they suppress the mind of a clone, does that mean that that clone is not its own person with rights?
Sure, those are many of the questions.
Those are questions that I'm not even hearing people ask.
And they should be because those technologies are now being used on Earth as well.
The military is using them.
They're recently in the media, they've talked about their DNA modifying soldiers, some of them without asking.
Isn't that the same program that Operation Moonshadow that Randy Kramer talks about, that he was created through?
Where they take DNA, they take sperm and eggs from kidnapped people, put them together to make a baby, add whatever DNA to it they want to create what they want, and then put this baby into someone who doesn't even know what they're doing, Who raises this child who isn't completely human.
And they don't know how to raise it because it has abilities that mama doesn't.
And this is what's been going on with super soldiers for...
I think you're older than he is.
I know I'm older than he is.
We have met at a conference.
We've actually been on panels at two conferences together.
I've done the same with him.
My generation, they were still operating with putting parents together, then taking the embryo, messing with it, killing three-fourths of those babies.
And whatever they got, they got.
I was one of those.
And I know I had a twin sister who died because they messed with us.
Okay.
So their process then was so wasteful that they started kidnapping people and putting the egg and sperm together in test tubes to stop killing as many of the babies.
Okay.
And because they couldn't get Mama and Papa together.
Not the ones they wanted.
Sure.
Okay.
Well, I mean, okay.
So they've been doing this.
They've been doing this.
I'm going to guess that Randy is about 15, 20 years younger than me.
And so we're looking at this has been going on.
So that would make him in his 40s.
So that would be...
He might be older than that, but yeah.
So...
Sometime in the 1970s.
I think he might even be in his 50s at this point, but I'm not sure.
Sometime in the 1970s, our government started doing this to us.
Were we consulted about this?
Was there any kind of ethical discussion about it?
And now it's in the media.
Well, China's doing it.
France is doing it.
So, of course, we're going to have to do it.
Never mind.
We've been doing it since 1970.
You know, so...
The discussion is finally being out there that this is going on.
But it's too late to have the ethical discussion because they've been doing it for 50 years.
Sure.
Absolutely.
All right.
Now, what about reptilians?
Have you had any dealings with reptilians?
Yes.
Draco?
Several races.
Okay.
And do you want to describe any of those interactions?
The raptors on Mars are a spacefaring race that was tossed back into the Stone Age.
They are highly intelligent.
They just don't have their technology anymore.
They are a tribal people.
They are carnivorous.
And the local Mars humans are Are their favorite food and they tried us and think we taste the same.
The Germans on Mars started the Mars War.
We attacked them.
So the idea that they are some sort of monster race is an error.
There was no problem with them at all until we nuked their houses.
Okay, so Now, Randy Kramer doesn't talk about fighting raptors.
He talks about fighting these, I don't know actually what they're called, these kind of bug bean type.
Mantids.
No, not mantids.
Something else.
But it doesn't matter.
Okay, so you think the raptors...
We called them mantids, although the ones on Mars look more like ants than praying mantids.
Right, there are ant beings for sure, but there's also another one that's more like a beetle type thing.
I don't know.
Anyway, so...
What I remember are the spiders.
Those things are nasty.
Okay.
But to get back, are you familiar with...
I mean, I understand you're not familiar with most of my interviews, but are you familiar with my interviews with Mark Richards because he is...
An expert at talking about the actual raptors.
I've heard a couple of them.
Most of what he's quoted as saying does not mesh with what I remember.
Fair enough.
I've dealt with raptors on Mars.
I've dealt with Alpha Draconians.
I've dealt with Warrior Draconians, which are another race based on turtles.
And I've dealt with their Worker Race, which basically looks like Dino the Dinosaur from Flintstones.
And is very much like a blue-collar kind of guy.
They are all Much more intelligent than humans, and in a fair fight, they will win every time if you're not armed.
Alpha Jacks are hardwired to have these outrageously high energy levels, and just being in their energy field will kill a normal human in about a half an hour.
Because we are not hardwired to deal with it.
And they practice something called full intimacy telepathy.
Honor is a great big deal to them.
And so they do everything in my head, everything in your head to prove they're not being deceitful.
But in practice, it feels like they're sucking your mind out through your eyeballs.
Okay.
And you have to ask them to be more gentle.
My telepathy, I was trained on Mars by a Alpha Drac.
And people have told me that because I had that training, that I come in very gently.
They don't know when I came in.
They don't know when I left.
But they hear every word.
Clearly.
Clearly.
So this is the way I operate because if you're getting into an Alphadrax hair head, you better be gentle or they're going to be mad at you.
And because of my ET DNA modifications, I'm one of the people who can be around them.
So I have been used as a liaison officer.
Okay.
All the contact I've had with the Alpha Jacks has been telepathic.
I do not speak their language.
I think in English, and I hear it back in English.
Now, I have heard them talk to people using their mouths, and they speak English and German as well as we do.
But the sounds that they make for their language...
Our palate is formed wrong.
We cannot make them.
And they would just assume we didn't try.
Okay.
So when you're describing what you're calling an alpha draconis, what do they look like physically in your view?
They range from 9 to 16 feet tall.
They come in different colors.
They have more of a snout than they're usually drawn with.
But it's not a...
It's not a major one.
They move with elegance like cats.
Most of them have wings.
Some of them have wings big enough to lift them.
They usually have a small tail, enough to be a decent rudder when they do fly.
The Rowling family is white, but they also come in bright red Brown and a muddy green.
Okay.
Are you aware of...
Gosh, let me see.
There's a hotel that was involved in the Vegas shooting.
I remember hearing about that.
And they have what I call the Draco statues out front of it, which is the main hotel that was involved, one of them.
I haven't seen that.
You haven't gone there?
There are seven races that make up the group that are called together the Draco, and I have only met individuals from three of them.
They have all treated me well.
I have no complaints about them at all.
Right.
Are you, have you heard that there is a war in the Orion sector?
There has been a war between Orion and the Draco for at least a million years.
It's ongoing.
And Kruger fights on one side and Monarch fights on the other.
And I don't know which side is which.
But it's an ongoing war that we have no business any of our people being involved in.
It's between rival Reptilian queens.
None of our business.
We don't belong in it.
Okay, and when you say Kruger, what are you talking about?
It's a mercenary company.
But they're in space?
They're sending beings into space or what?
They're in space.
They use CIA alters and tissue samples to create assets and That they send into battle and they are getting paid with technology and the assets are getting nothing.
And we are literally going out and fighting in wars we have no business in because Kruger Mercenary is on one side and Monarch Mercenary is on the other.
And both of these are American companies.
All right.
Do you believe that you're affiliated with one of them?
I have alters who have served in both of them.
All right.
Okay, well...
The main difference between them is Kruger physically modifies their people.
They call it enhancing them.
And they are what the Borg is based on because that's what their assets look like.
Monarch shoots their people up with black goo.
And so they still look like people, but they are so enhanced with AI that they're not.
So both of them are messing with basic humanity.
They don't care because these people are in clone bodies.
Okay.
All right.
So now, like I said, we have a chat room here and we're going to have to wind this show down.
We've been going for a while here.
Do you want to take any questions from the audience if there's, you know, a few questions there?
Reasonable ones?
Probably.
I can't see it, so I don't know.
Well, I'm just going to give them a chance and ask them if they want to put their questions there and see if anyone has any direct questions for you.
Okay, so someone wants me to ask you about the transhuman agenda, the AI and the future of Earth.
Black Goo is a sentient AI and And it has an agenda.
And what it does is it will raise the technology level of a culture to the point that it can create artificial sleeves to install itself in.
And at that point, they become the masters.
And within 100 years, they eliminate all organic life on that world.
My understanding from space is that this is a forbidden technology and that any planet that accepts it will be sterilized for the safety of the rest of the galaxy.
Okay, but we do have black goo here.
You're aware of that, right?
We have two kinds of black goo here, yes.
One is the sentient black goo that the galaxy is afraid of.
And the other one is like native to Earth and is not like that.
And it's very hard for a basic human to tell the difference.
All right.
And so the last part of that question was what your view is of the future of Earth.
I have seen a timeline split three ways.
And I don't see any of them as positive outcomes.
I've seen sentient AI taking over and the galaxy sterilizing us.
I see New World Order, which is China for everybody.
And I see a civil war that ends up most of us killing each other.
So I'm not happy with any of those three.
I would like to have a fourth Outcome of finding peace without allowing AI or New World Order.
Okay, it's a little late not to have AI, wouldn't you say?
I think we are at the point where we don't have much time left.
As soon as they have those sleeve bodies available, We're in trouble.
So we have less than 10 years on that.
Okay.
All right.
Is there anything that, you know, just in terms of wrapping up the show, is there anything you'd like to talk about that I haven't touched on or you haven't had a chance to talk about?
I would like to see...
The public aware that the CIA is kidnapping children for all of these programs.
And that that is completely unnecessary.
There is nothing we do out there that cannot be done by consenting adults.
And when I've been out in the public, there are plenty of consenting adults.
All right.
Okay, well, Penny, it's very nice to have you on my show.
I appreciate it.
Your information is very interesting, and I'm sure that from the look of the chat room, people are quite interested in what you have to say.
Obviously, they can go listen to you since your links are on my web page for you, and they can find your show.
So hopefully we can have you back in the future if you have anything you'd like to talk about.
Just let me know.
All right?
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
All right.
You take care.
And thanks, everyone, for watching.
And I guess hang in there.
I'm not going to...
Like I suggested at the beginning, you can go to my telegram to see the ongoing intel that I'm getting.
Some of that will include intel that was sent directly to me.
Some of it is out in the mass sort of media and alternative sectors.
So thank you for, as I say, watching the show, being here, asking good questions in the chat.
And let's see where this whole thing goes.
And I'll be Back with you talking about more things.
Tomorrow I have another guest and her name is Amelia Love.
So just want to say that that'll be an interesting show as well.
So thanks again for watching.
I did do an update yesterday because my guest had very bad technical issues.
We'll try to Reschedule with him to sometime probably next week.
And I am going to have Cyrus Parsa back on the show.
I think it's on Tuesday, the 19th.
Just letting everyone know about that.
All right.
So thanks for being here and take care.
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