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Dec. 18, 2020 - Project Camelot
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BRAD OLSEN IN PERSON AUDIO INTERVIEW BEYOND ESOTERIC
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Thank you.
Thank you.
And he is someone that I've met recently in person again after many years, right?
That's right.
And I always admired your work.
You were like traipsing all over the globe.
You know, I'm a globetrotter too.
You are.
And so I admire anyone who puts up with all of that.
It's quite a challenging thing to do with your life.
So let's talk about your new book.
It's called Beyond Esoteric, Escaping Prison Planet, and on the cover is The Yellow Cube, which was greatly inspired by some of the research and interviews that you've done in the past with a guy named Bill Wood, that was his pseudonym, and then Dan Burish.
Not that either one of them were the be-all-say-all, but I find the yellow cube to be one of the most fascinating ET relics that's ever came out.
And that is why this is beyond esoteric.
This book goes beyond what any 19th century occultist could ever imagine the world that we live in today.
And of course I go into transhumanism in this book, as well as being aware of predatory species.
As we've learned through many of your Camelot interviews, humans are maybe not the top of the pecking order, but perhaps are subservient to another species of ETs that have been on this planet for a very long time.
And look at us much in the same way that we would look at cattle as livestock, as a possession that they can exploit.
And this would then explain the human abductions, the cow mutilations, and a lot of the high strange we see occurring with humans and regressing their memories.
And as I said to you, Carrie, I look up to you so much.
And you have just been such a great inspiration to me, as well as the research.
And I'll go over some of your older videos and still find so much material.
And I really do believe that you will go down in history as one of the greatest researchers of our age.
Oh, well that's a high compliment.
Thank you.
I have to say that You know, as they say, I'm standing on the shoulders of giants.
So the people that I've interviewed that have inspired me are, you know, I think had made history and all we did was record that history for the most part.
But the contribution I think I make is that I do ask the hard questions and that's something very different than other researchers.
And I also put two and two together and so More and more over the years and why I wrote my book is to connect the dots in such a way that people can begin to put the picture together and understand how to use what they've learned to apply to their life because it does apply and it does apply to the political situation we're in.
Right now, the day after the election, and with all the craziness that's going on right now, counting of the votes and stealing of the election, it looks like, and some things going on with that.
I've got, you know, the thing is that I didn't limit myself also.
So I interview people that have cures for cancer.
You know, I have a doctor on my show tomorrow going to talk about adrenochrome and curing autistic children and using DMT. I mean, we're talking, this is a very unusual doctor and I'm very excited to do that.
And so, and then talking to people like you that do ancient At the early days you were much more of an explorer getting into the ancient places on planet Earth and that fascinates me greatly because I'm a world traveler and I adore traveling.
And it's really bad during this time of COVID, right?
And I actually pushed the envelope when I just went out and started traveling in July.
We got stopped at the airport.
We couldn't go certain places.
I couldn't go to Europe where I was headed.
I couldn't go to Greece where I was headed.
And I ended up in Turkey, me and my partner.
And Turkey was actually accommodating.
And we had a Nice time there, although I will say that around 5 or 6 at night, it started to get dark, and all the women disappeared off the street completely.
Wow.
Even the women tourists, if there were any.
And so that was kind of off-putting.
It's kind of common in Muslim countries, though.
Not at night.
No, no.
See, at night, they come at it.
Turkey is very progressive.
And then they stay up until like 12 or 2 in the morning.
It's like, you know, daytime.
You know, in the normal, when things were normal.
They're a very social culture.
And in the case of Turkey, of course, it's a mixture of many cultures.
It's not just, say, Muslim at all.
In fact, there's a strong kind of Christianity going on there.
But...
I digress.
So, back to your book.
So let me understand, because I'm reading your book, okay?
And you're really an excellent writer.
Thank you.
Let me say that from the get-go.
And I am impressed, because you keep a lot of information in hand, and apparently in your head, and then you're able to weave it into a sort of a narrative.
Right.
Which is...
One of the more difficult things to do when you're talking about all of these...
These are very deep subjects, okay?
And you start with the occult, and you go into that, and you're doing a good job with that.
I'm happy to get further along in the book, but I am forcing myself to go through stuff I know, of course, and see how you put it together, because that's really interesting.
And I think people will find it very, very useful.
If you don't know anything...
You're going to find it very useful, because you're going to get all the outlines of everything, and so you're going to know where you should be going, where the trails lead.
And then if you want to go in greater depth, obviously you can read the masters in these various subjects, like Manly Palmer Hall and all of that.
So tell me, how is it that you go from being an explorer to writing a book like that?
The second conference that I met you at was at UFO Megacon when you were interviewing John Lear.
And you walked by the table, and I was hoping you'd remember me from the first conference we met, but hey, I understand.
You meet a lot of interesting people, Carrie.
I don't hold it against you.
You're tall, you're good looking, I should have noticed you.
I'm sorry.
But I told you, I said, Carrie, I've just come back from Antarctica.
And you said, you're a very brave person.
And of course, our first interview was talking about Antarctica.
And as someone, a fellow traveler who experiences the trials and tribulations of being on the road, you understand that there's easy travel and there's hard travel.
And Antarctica was very hard travel.
But it was the trip of a lifetime.
And I don't even think you can go right now.
This is the beginning of the travel season in Antarctica, and I'm sure it's cancellations aplenty.
I caught it right at the window where I could and went down there and the weather was actually pretty nice when we were there as well.
That's incredible.
I'm sorry to say this, but did someone pay you away because doesn't it cost a fortune?
I was able to get Passage for about $6,000.
And that was all inclusive of the trip itself.
It's actually very low.
It had to be cash, otherwise it would have been eight if I did a direct transfer.
So I thought, oh, that's easy.
I got plenty of money.
I'll just transfer it over and take it out of the bank.
Not so easy.
I had to do ATM withdrawals every single day for two weeks to get that much.
Exactly.
And did you have to go through an airport with the money in hand?
No, it was all done down in Ushuaia, Argentina, which is the southernmost city of the world.
And this is really interesting, too, and you'll appreciate this as a world traveler.
It was the only time in my life where I stamped out of a country I was in, did not stamp in to anywhere in Antarctica, and only after the trip was over, 26 days later, stamped back into the same country.
So it was like being in no man's land for about a month.
Right, and you could also...
Theoretically, you get in trouble.
No.
Okay, because a similar thing happened to me in England, and I don't want to take time away from this interview to explain all that, but during COVID, they didn't stamp my passport when I came into England.
Oh.
And I think they did that on purpose.
Yeah.
They stamped it, I think, when I went out.
But, yeah, you are in a weird land...
When they don't do that.
And you get in theory...
I don't know enough about it, but I think you could be arrested or whatever because you're...
I have heard that you definitely need a stamp when you come in and you need a stamp when you go out.
That's just customary.
Well, the thing is with Antarctica, it's no man's land as far as taking possession as far as countries go.
Now, there are claims on Antarctica, but really...
Per the Antarctica Treaty, it is a biosphere reserve, meaning the whole continent is like a world reserve, a park for all of us.
And it says specifically that it's for scientific as well as travel purposes.
So this is one of the big misconceptions about Antarctica.
Everybody thinks, oh, there's all these secret governments, and there could be.
I mean, if you wanted to hide under the ice, it would be a perfect place to go.
It wasn't a factor, but they also thought, and I did too, that it was going to be a highly militarized zone, and it wasn't.
We did see some military vehicles, kind of like Coast Guard ships, but not exercises or nuclear testing.
Okay, well, I have to say that I have a whole different picture of Antarctica, and from my Whistleblowers and some very substantial whistleblowers that communicated to me.
And I can tell you there's, what you didn't see is because you're not supposed to see, obviously.
But I think we did, you know, I love talking about this and I could really take this off in that direction and talk to you for hours because I've done research around it and I have a lot of Questions and all kinds of things that we could definitely dig in.
But this is about your book, so let's focus on that.
And again, you kind of didn't answer my question.
So I want to understand, like what were you, did you like reach sort of a brick wall in your travels and decide you wanted to go in the direction of the so-called esoteric and hidden knowledge?
Secrecy, etc., and then of course the alien UFO side of story, because that had not been your expertise up to then.
Correct.
So I did travel books in my lead up to this esoteric series, Beyond Esoteric, Escaping Prison Planet, the subtitle, which again could tie into Camelot, the human experience here on Earth.
is the third and final in the series.
So I did Modern Esoteric, Beyond Our Senses, Future Esoteric, The Unseen Realms, which does have a lot of UFO material in it, and then also in Beyond Esoteric were basically filling in the gaps that I hadn't covered in the first two books, which are just as voluminous and filled with information.
I never repeat my information, and I had a few chapters that had been left out of the other two just because they didn't have a proper fit.
But in this book, once again, there are three sections like the other two.
This one starts with neo-fascism, something I know you're quite well acquainted with, and that is the corporate powers that are making a power play right now to take over this planet.
Like David Ike said, there will come a time when all their plans come to the surface.
When they just have to be above ground with everything.
They leave the smoky boardrooms from planning and it all starts to get executed.
And I think we're seeing that in its raw and ugly self-rearing itself before all of us to see.
And there's really no doubt in my mind That this is exactly what's happening and who's behind it.
So in the neo-fascism section, I get into those questions, the who, what, when, where, and why, starting with the Act of 1871, when this country basically became a corporation.
These are esoteric subjects because people just don't know about it.
The reason our name is in all caps on our social security card, on our birth certificate, on our driver's license is hidden in plain sight that we are actually collateral to this corporation and even traded on the stock exchange.
For sure.
And, you know, Jordan Maxwell has pioneered that and before that Manly Pomerol and others as well.
And it's great that you're following this trail and you're sort of laying it out in a very understandable way.
And you try to hit all the main, what someone might call milestones and players and all of that.
But I'm still curious, you kind of didn't say why.
Why did you get interested in this when you were exploring?
When I was exploring, and I've been to all seven continents now, about as many countries as I am years old, which is in the 50s, I was working on a series of books on sacred places.
I wrote one about sacred places around the world, sacred places Europe, and sacred places North America.
And I published another author who did goddess sites.
So I'm very well acquainted with many of the mysteries of the world, many of the megalithic sites, where they found giants, where a lot of mysteries have emanated.
But the treatment in my sacred places series was only three or four pages with maps and pictures.
Realizing that there's such a big picture.
Take, for example, the Great Pyramids, as you know, could fill volumes of books and so many questions about how it was built, who built it, what it was for, and that was just way too much information that could be in the Sacred Places books.
So that parlayed over to the Esoteric series.
And then I got into a lot of the very interesting subjects I feel are the most important that we can endeavor to research.
And that is the extraterrestrial question.
What are UFOs?
How is it that these phenomenon carry on for generation after generation and we still don't quite have a full grasp of what we're dealing with?
The whole subject of exo-politics.
Who they are.
What they're doing here and our relationship to them is one of the greatest subjects of our time that we could put our mind to to try to figure out.
And that's why I hold you in such high esteem, Kerry, because for 18 years you've been doing this and your research has really paved a trail for people like me and the next generation To use this material and to try to collect the data points to make a cohesive study about what it is.
So the second section in Beyond Esoteric is called the Embargo and that is how this information has been sequestered away through the backward engineering.
They're not talking about it either our academics Our media, our government would just rather push it to the sidelines and make us fringe subjects where this is the most important thing we could be talking about and trying to understand.
Okay, so in a certain sense you're an explorer not only of the physical world, but you're now an explorer of the mind and beyond.
So, and that's understanding, you know, inner space, outer space, etc.
And so that, you know, one could see a through line for you as a soul wanting to do this endeavor.
I'm curious whether you came at all of this considering yourself as a writer first.
Do you consider yourself as a writer first or did you end up writing because that seemed the right thing to do?
It's kind of both and then something else.
At a very young age, I was the comedian in the family.
Maybe it has to do with being a middle child and not getting the attention of my older brother or my younger sister and just being the funny one, being the good storyteller.
I've always been able to engage people around a campfire.
I believe very strongly in our choice of words And this parlays over to being a good writer.
I've always said, if you're a good storyteller, you're more than halfway there, because you will be a good writer if you can put it together in a cohesive form, beginning, middle, and end.
I went through a bit of an existential crisis about ten years ago with my writing because travel started to fall off a cliff with the advent of the Internet.
People were able to get online and basically research any location they want in the world, and they didn't really need books anymore.
Or I have done a lot of media with articles, both online and print, and one by one all of my publications started falling off a clip.
So I went through this crisis, which was, what am I going to do?
I really like publishing and writing, but I need something where people are willing to plop down some money and pay for it.
Well, my interest since I was a little kid has been in the paranormal, in the occult, in ETs, and this big picture of who are we in this world?
And can we figure this out?
We're pretty smart species of humans here.
But there's so many unanswered questions as to what it is the human experience is all about and who really runs the show on this planet.
And that's where I've kind of put it all together into this esoteric series and climaxing with this final book, Beyond Esoteric, Escaping Prison Planet.
And that is why I'm so honored to speak with you again, because you have told us in so many ways through your interviews that humans are imprisoned here in so many ways, mainly spiritually, that it's going to take a lot for us to understand this and break out of this prison planet mentality.
And I often have told you, I really like when you talk during your interviews because I've learned so much.
And may I poise a question to you, and that is, how can humans understand their role and what is it that we need to do to try to escape this bondage here on this planet and assert our sovereignty on the surface of the planet?
Well, I mean, that's a big subject, and I can say that To get political on you, Trump and team, the secret things they have been doing behind the scenes like rescuing the children from underground bases and outing the real, basically, Luciferian agenda in certain ways so that people can actually see it in front of them so they can't deny it.
So that's what their strength is and has been.
And I'm so hopeful that they're gonna get their second act So that they can actually come forward with the indictments and the evidence to prove what they have been doing, what we know they've been doing behind the scenes.
So that's one thing that actually is about saving the human race.
And I think the whole world has eyes on Trump winning this election for just that reason.
In other words, he and his team.
And I never see him as separate from a huge team that he has behind him.
He's a wonderful front man.
And he's done an excellent, in my view, he's done an excellent job.
But I know there's, you know, without the military clout behind him, it's impossible.
We're dealing with, you know, a mano-mano, you know, sort of mafiosa, mafiadon world, right?
In which, you know, it's the one, it's might makes right.
And so, you know, if you don't have the clout in terms of, also, we're talking occult knowledge, okay?
Because what people don't know is the military, our military, and the military...
underground bases in the secret space program have used those the the sort of techniques and so on of black magicians and and esoteric knowledge to enhance their exploration of space and building weapons and understanding how to further enslave humanity and so this has been the huge challenge and now
The other way, I would say, is that for each individual, what you need to do to free yourself is to activate your chakras, to meditate, to connect with Source.
That's the main thing.
And because I did this at a young age, I set out to do it.
No one told me to do it.
I didn't have a guru.
I did it when I was around 21, and I was living in New York City and studying acting.
And I basically...
I had an opportunity to not have to work every day, and I started meditating.
I had read things like Siddhartha, Hermann Hesse, and various other esoteric writings.
I also had done investigation into a lot of the Eastern religions and philosophies.
So I had a good basis for understanding, and I also had studied the occult.
Although I didn't become a practicing magician using spells and all of that.
But I believe we're all, what I say is we're all witches, warlocks, and magicians.
And in my view, this is what a creator is.
In essence, we can manipulate the elements, which is the definition of that.
And you can either do it with the positive in mind, in other words, doing it for the benefit of those around you, And humanity and other beings, plants, animals, etc.
Or you can do it for the purposes of power over.
And it's the ones that are working the negative path that basically use those techniques to have power over that we're having to deal with.
And when you're dealing, it's very helpful to have these skill sets to deal with aliens.
because aliens coming from other dimensions have developed these types of skills themselves.
So they're telepathic as we are.
And see, part of this is, it goes back to Ingo Swann.
And Ingo Swann talked about our superpowers.
So humans have superpowers that we haven't fully explored.
And I talk about, say, if you want an example, the movie Lucy, Which a lot of people have seen and if you haven't then I highly recommend it and But this is a situation where they, through certain, you know, artificial method, they, you know, make her brain, you know, take basically so she uses her whole brain.
As everyone says, we only use a portion normally.
So the more you become like a yogi, so to speak, the more you're going to expand your brain.
That's part of it.
You're going up beyond the body as well into the other chakras and your abilities to do things like teleport and materialize things out of the air and move things from one place to another.
These are all things aliens, so-called aliens, visitors from other planets can do.
We can do this as well.
And it's because people never really fully explore or accept that.
But magicians do.
So real esoteric magicians know and witches and warlocks know that we have these powers.
And that's what they do.
They explore those powers and they expand upon them and learn from them and teach them to their children and so on and so forth.
So this is...
You want to free us, you have to free, in essence, in a sense, you could say, the mission is to free yourself from physicality, ultimately.
If you wish to stay in the physical, especially in the 3D sort of course, or what they call course physicality, you can do that.
But it's also advantageous, in essence, to use your light body, which you do create as you're going.
And then move into the other dimensions and everything becomes more fluid and more easy.
And we are actually, as a planet, this is why we have such a push comes to shove on the planet right now, is because the last thing our predators want to do is to see us escape their grasp and move on.
They may be left with Earth, even.
Because if Earth doesn't move along with us, I know a lot of people are very fond of saying we are embedded to Earth, you know, and that's a marriage.
It is of a sort because the Earth serves us, okay?
And then we're supposed to be serving the Earth as well as guardians of the various, you know, life forms, etc.
The bottom line is that we, as a being, as Bob Dean says, we come from the stars and we will return to the stars.
So it's important to realize that we go back to Source with or without the Earth.
And that's a journey.
And if you follow Nietzsche, you not only go back to Source, you come back out again and you go through whatever you want.
Because the Creator is in a constant state of play, they say.
So as it plays and expands in ultimate creativity, so do we.
So humans are ultimately incredibly creative.
And that's what matters.
And that is what they're trying to stop us.
They want to shut us up with COVID. They want to shut us up with masks.
I mean, it's all very symbolic, right?
And a writer can read the symbols.
Manly P. Hall read the symbols.
Jordan's been...
Interpreting the symbols.
The symbolism gets below your conscious mind.
It goes into your unconscious, to your subconscious.
And basically, we read the symbols.
We didn't need Jordan to tell us or someone else, either.
The bottom line is that humans automatically read symbols.
It's just part of our nature.
But we don't remember that we do, and we don't consciously have access to our To our own, you know, knowledge of that.
So this is where, you know, people like you or I can help others once we follow that trail, right?
To expose that.
So I've talked too long on this subject, but you asked me.
I'm glad you did.
That perfectly dovetails with the final section of my book, which is called Ubermind.
And it is exactly what you just said, that we have these powers within us.
They've laid dormant for a long time.
All they need to do is be reactivated, and we can become the Superman, the Ubermensch of Nietzsche, and then move on to these higher levels.
And then those predatory species...
They lose their control over us.
So, in a nutshell, I see that as the real escape from prison planet.
It's really a battle that we all must go within.
It is know thyself and ascend that way by helping out other people along the way.
Being in service to others is the greatest thing we can do and that is how we free ourselves.
We free our mind And we move on.
And I also really like what you say about symbols, too, because so much of the manipulation of the human race has been this hidden in plain sight.
Well, they'll show us what they're doing.
They won't say it outright, but that's up to us.
Be in command of the situation by saying, well, we did let them know.
We did show it.
And that ties into the whole notion of free will.
And that also plays a big role in this escape from prison planet.
Absolutely.
But I do want to compliment you because you are attempting to write, I guess, a series of books.
That is very adventurous.
Yes.
And I am curious, did you have the beginning, middle, and end in mind when you started this work?
Because that would be daunting to anyone.
This has been about a 15-year project.
Beyond Esoteric has taken me six years to complete.
With so many things going on, as we know, distractions aplenty to get it done.
I've been reading your book, The Rebel Gene, and I have to say I'm very impressed with your take on who we are.
And in many ways, The Rebel Gene is part of the Escape from Prison Planet, because once we understand That a few of us that just never conformed with school, doubted government, doubted the media, just said, hey, there's something going on here in this world, and we need to get to the bottom of it.
Of course, we've been resigned to the fringe.
And we're the kooky conspiracy theorists.
But you know what, Carrie?
In the end of the day, it's you and I who are starting to get a grasp of who we are, are probably going to get through this a lot easier than most people that have believed the propaganda and the indoctrination of this planet.
And to them, I wish them well.
I hope they'll come and join us.
But that's why this is the cutting edge.
Where we're at, going into the future as a possible ascension into fifth dimensional beings, what that means and how we're going to get there, I think it all starts from within.
And it has to be us being the very best human beings we can possibly be to even attempt to make that shift.
This great leap forward, the great awakening we've heard so much about, This is it.
This is the human adventure.
It is such an exciting time to be alive right now and to see this and talk with people like you that have a greater understanding of these subjects.
It's always a learning experience for me too when I get an opportunity to speak with you.
Well, thank you.
Well, I want to thank you too.
It is fascinating that you've gone down this road the way you have.
And I feel like I'm starting kind of at the end of your books, and I have no idea where you're going to go from here, but that's going to be very interesting.
But I have to say, now I want to go back to the beginning to follow your journey in essence, to read the prior books and then come out through the sort of rabbit hole as it is, and sort of see what your journey was all about.
Because, you know, one person's journey is everyone's journey.
And this is why we so love stories and movies and books and all of that.
And, you know, as Thoreau said, which is to consider that oneself, one's own experience is the experience of the world, is, and I'm paraphrasing, is genius.
And for some reason I always remembered that quote because I thought, you know, he captured in one sentence, like, you know, the essence of...
Thoreau is a wonderfully inspiring writer, as you may know, and I just particularly like that sense, and I know I basically mismanaged it.
But if you get my drift, you understand what I'm saying.
To understand that our experience, everyone wants to think they're separate, and they're so special, and they're so unbelievably unique, and they are.
Everyone has different gifts to bring to the table.
We are as amazing as we are because the Creator is endlessly creative.
So in every way, we express that Creator.
That's where, basically, if you have an experience, if you have a journey and a knowledge, ultimately we will all come to the same place.
But we'll come through our own very unique ways and methods and so on.
So you'll go through the dark, you'll go through the light, and hopefully you'll come out the other side stronger and more full of self-knowledge and be able to journey on from there.
So that's the challenge.
So I could wish for people at this time who are watching this video...
Who will also take that inspiration that you've done here in your journey, demonstrated through your books, right?
That you have actually gone from a very specific life of an explorer in the physical world To an explorer that is now going out beyond and taking people with him.
So, congratulations on that and I think that in and of itself is inspiring and I want to thank you for being here.
And I want to thank you for contributing your self-knowledge to the world all these years because you've written A ridiculous amount of books.
Double digits.
I'm very impressed because writing one book was a huge challenge, I have to say.
So anyway, I want to thank you for your service to humanity and I want to encourage you to continue your journey and keep writing.
I'm very curious where you're going to go next.
I'm curious too.
We'll have to take it a book at a time, as they say in the business, but publish or perish, that's the way it Message to deliver or there's also a time to stop when we feel like we've made our contribution and I'm glad to see that you're in the book writing field now and you've done so much.
It's very challenging a lot of work.
I mean, you know my hats off to you because It's impossible.
You know, there's so many details people don't realize you know, you may have it in your mind and I mean, I think it's much easier to write maybe fiction or free-flowing, whatever, you know, poetry.
I started as a poet, actually, as a writer in this life.
So that I can get.
That comes easily, and I really love that.
But...
You know, remembering all these facts and figures and dates and names and also keeping it all together so it's in a cohesive, you know, way that people can follow.
And I think more and more what people need, it's like a guidebook, right?
They need kinds of guidebooks at this point because we're outing all the truths, right?
All at once our world is outing truths.
And YouTube is a, you know...
I guess a tribute to that, as pathetic as it has turned out to be.
You know, it started out as a very inspiring open road for everyone to come forward and share their truth.
And unfortunately, it's actually gone very downhill in that regard.
Maybe Trump can rein it in.
Maybe another, you know, a lot of new platforms are coming out.
We'll see where it all goes, but...
Interesting.
You know, this journey is endlessly fascinating.
And no one can predict every twist and turn in the road, you know?
And then there's always the ET issue.
How that's going to intercede, perhaps, on our behalf.
Or how we're going to someday sit at the table with benevolent ETs.
But I do believe it's up to the humans right now.
It's our planet, at least the surface here.
And we have to get our own act together.
We can't have people starving.
We can't be degradating the environment.
We have to.
Treat animals and all living things with respect.
And again, that comes from the inner journey of knowing thyself.
Because once you can love yourself, you can love others, you can love the rest of the world.
And that's what it's all about.
Bring ourselves into a higher vibration, into what I call an age of transparency, where there's no lies.
There's no need to hide anything from anyone.
It's the trajectory of the human race to get into this phase where we're all equals and we're all just sharing all the knowledge that we have.
As Alex Collier said, the ET groups all do this.
They all get better every single generation because each generation adds value.
To what the prior generations have learned.
And it is through this evolutionary trajectory that humans are going to also join this...
I would agree.
...group of benevolent ETs.
But in the meantime, we have to know what we're up against.
And as far as the malevolent ETs that have done harm, as we can perceive, say, abductions or other things that we've heard...
Maybe the reptilians have done to humans.
We don't know what we're up against.
So how can you even give yourself protection if you don't even know who your enemy is?
Let alone, let alone try to break from that mold.
So it's my understanding that the Benevolent ETs have seen this, that they've realized we don't stand a chance against this kind of malevolent force.
Ever since 9-11, you can see how things have really gone into this dark world of trying to trick the human race.
That if they could pull off 9-11 and make us believe that story of it, which is so ridiculous, We stand no chance against this malevolent ET agenda.
So unless we arm ourselves with the knowledge of combating this force, We can't ascend.
But if we're being assisted, and if people that are doing the right thing for the right reasons can perhaps get on shows like Camelot and discuss their knowledge, that is going to bring us all up.
And Kerry, one last final thought.
I was an English teacher in Japan.
That's how I got my travel started.
All my trips have been self-financed.
I've paid everything out of pocket.
And this is how I paid for my three-year trip around the world that got it all started in the 1990s.
And I was teaching English in Japan, and the Japanese word for teacher is sensei.
English teacher.
And I was pretty much just out of college, going out drinking with the guys afterwards, dating my students, which...
You know, like a college student.
And one day I had this elderly student of mine in conversation, much like this.
And he says, Brad, you don't understand.
You're a sensei.
And I said, yeah, I teach you my language.
It's not a big deal.
He said, no, you don't understand.
You are imparting your knowledge.
And to do that to the people of the East, this is one of the highest...
Accolades you could do.
So a sensei, a teacher, is right up there with a judge or a scientist or a doctor as being someone who is doing very good things to help other people.
To bring the whole society up.
And it took me a long time to wrap my head around that.
But I think being a book author is being a sensei.
Is helping others to understand, through my ability of storytelling and writing and public speaking, how others can understand this very complex problem that we're in here on Earth.
But it can be overcome, as we know.
We have great hope for the human race.
And this will go beyond us, and I applaud you for your contribution to humanity, and it'll go beyond your living years, I guarantee you.
Thank you.
Well, yes, and we all hope to live on, you know, through our works, right?
That's a natural sort of human instinct to want to do once you start down this path.
But I think that we do have the equipment to actually sort of climb out of this box, so to speak.
We're in like Neo in the Matrix.
And I think that Right.
Right.
and you had to sit at the feet of a guru who may or may not really have quite all that in order either.
You know, so it's expanding on the whole planet.
And the East and the West are now in constant dialogue.
And that's part of the fascinating nature of the yin and yang of planet Earth and where we're going as a being to integrate those two sides.
And I think that's the challenge, you know, in terms of politics right now that we're dealing with.
Both in the United States and outside the United States and internationally.
And ultimately the challenge is with China as well.
People from the East who can contribute their knowledge and their insight and hopefully they will be able to without going into the unfortunate hive mind sort of syndrome that seems to be occupying a lot of those cultures.
You know, they are dominated by, as well.
So we are, you know, different races are dominated by different sets of beings and you could say their so-called leaders are also those sort of chosen for the different races, etc.
So these are things that we can surmount in my view.
And yes, we do need help, but it's most important to know that It's like a child who's learning to walk.
You cannot walk for that child.
The child must fall down, pick themself up again, and start to walk again.
And the way that the benevolent ETs, as we're calling them, inner earth beings, and also even ascended masters, etc., they understand the nature of this.
So it's not that they come onto Earth and set things to right and educate everyone and tell them what to do or how to be a certain way.
It's actually got to come from within us, which is actually the conclusion you reached.
They have also reached.
So they understand that if they're going to interfere, first of all, the dark has to do something and that opens a doorway.
And at the same time, they also have to have our permission.
We are sovereign, and that's a very important concept to keep in mind as we go forward into dealing with various ET races.
And the other thing is that what they're doing also is infiltrating our genome.
Many of these races, both good and bad, are using these vehicles to then Influence and persuade and even control our races.
So when we're talking about ETs, we have to understand that we are ETs, right?
And so in essence, we are also a mixture of all those races, a genome that contains at least 12 other races and probably much more by now.
And so with that concept in mind, understanding that It's not them over there and us over here.
It's actually, we are very close.
We are so close to them.
And they are not to be worshipped, in my view.
And some of those races that we interact with and may mistakenly consider to be saviors or the good guys may actually be inhibiting us in certain ways because they are taking...
Control and actually on a negative path, but acting as though they're on a positive path.
So it's a very deceptive playing field out there, and I just want to put that word of caution out there if you don't mind.
But we're going too long here, and I said we'd only talk for a short time, so I'm going to wind this up with you if you don't mind.
Any parting last words, I'll give you the stage for that.
Well, we covered the basis of what the gist of Beyond Esoteric is all about.
The word occult really means the hidden.
These are subjects that have been around for a long time.
I believe with the advent, first of the Gutenberg Press, but now of the internet, it's the new Library of Alexandria.
Although now it's taken a turn towards the worst with censorship in our midst, but for a while there we had access to so much information, so many videos, and so much ability to research any subject you want, that it's a wonderful time to be alive.
I think the work you do, and I believe my books are the Zeitgeist of the Age, we're the Spirit of the Age, We should just be in a position where we're at to be in this country.
To be in these bodies of ours.
To have this opportunity.
Because you know, a lot of people, they never even really leave their little town.
And they have very few opportunities.
So I do believe that we're brought here for a reason.
We each have individual missions.
And I think a lot of people have not understood that their life has great meaning.
And we need everybody.
All hands on deck.
We're the ground crew down here, and we're going to do this.
And I do believe we will escape prison planet once and for all.
Not to say that this is a bad place.
It's a beautiful planet.
But the human experience has been compromised.
And there's so much we need to understand to help us with this ascension into the Great Awakening.
Okay.
Take care.
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