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Nov. 19, 2020 - Project Camelot

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DAVID SEREDA: ET SHOOT DOWN OF COLUMBIA

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	Hi, everyone. everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
	So I've got David Serrata with me.
	David, say hi to everyone.
	Hi, everyone.
	Good to be here.
	Thanks, Carrie, for having me on your show.
	It's been about four or five years.
	Actually, I think we were actually had you on the show maybe two years ago, but with COVID, everything seems longer, so I understand.
	But I do remember having you on my show not so long ago, actually, although anything over a year is a long time.
	So I'm glad to have you back on and I'm so excited to talk to you about the subject.
	So it's going to be a lot of fun today.
	And I'm going to just kind of try to run through your bio here quickly.
	And in the meanwhile, what I'll do is see if I can bring it on the screen for people.
	Yeah.
	So we've got most of your bio on here, but not all of it.
	And everyone who wants to read along can see it on the screen, but you can also follow it on my website, projecthamlott.tv or projecthamlottportal.com.
	They go to the same place.
	So David studied meditation, yoga, vegetarian diet, world religions, ancient history, physics, math, astronomy, Alternative zero-point energies for over 40 years.
	He took physics in school at college level, continued his studies ever since.
	His physics teacher, a time dilation.
	He presented a time dilation theory to his physics teacher, which the teacher admitted was way beyond anything since Einstein in 1990.
	He began working with an MIT physicist, Dr.
	Bogdan Maglich, and teamed up with him to promote and fund Maglich's non-radioactive fusion power technology.
	David studied fusion power over 10 years, and it goes on.
	So, David, you also have worked with All kinds of people, including Dan Aykroyd in the day, back in the day.
	And you've been doing so many innovative things, as well as the pendants that you sell, Lightstream Wand, I think is what you call the site.
	And it goes on.
	So there's a lot here.
	So what I'd like to do now is basically have you talk about your background and You know, a little more for the people that don't know who you are, so that we can sort of set the scene for the whole discussion about the Columbian.
	Sure.
	Well, I grew up, our family were actually Canadian-born, and I was born in 1961, August 21st.
	And my mom and dad decided to move our whole family to Berkeley, California.
	In about 1964, 65, we moved there.
	And so I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area in the 60s, which was an incredible time as a kid.
	I mean, I remember my mom hiding us under the park benches during the tear gas riots on the Berkeley campus.
	And in about 1968, we were living in the University Village.
	My dad was getting a PhD in psychology.
	And on the way home from school, there was a flying saucer that caused total pain.
	Pandemonium on the streets.
	I'm actually amazed this case is not a well-known case.
	But the saucer hovered for about 20 minutes.
	It was close, close enough to see its shape was lenticular, no rivets, a very exotic metal.
	And after a full 20 minutes with hundreds of people on the street, it just blinked out.
	And in those days, as a kid, I grew up watching Star Trek and My Favorite Martian, so I immediately had a connection to what it was about, but I thought it was the USS Enterprise.
	And then in the following weeks, these ETs appeared to me behind sleep.
	And you have to understand, this is a time when there are no UFO conferences, there's no UFO talk shows.
	There's nobody that a kid who's seven years old can go to and say, hey, you know, this happened to me.
	What's going on?
	Who are these ETs showing me the inside of their craft, the Lady Star System connection?
	It wasn't until the 70s when my mom moved us back with our real dad because they had divorced in the 60s movement into Vancouver, British Columbia, that I saw the Billy Meyer case on TV. In Vancouver, Canada in 1972, and I said, hey, that's what I saw.
	And Meyers Craft appeared, those photographs were early 70s, so it's not that many years later, from 1968 to 1972, when Meyers started having his Palladian experience.
	But then basically, I grew up, you know, went to school, you know, took math, physics, and And I presented this time dilation theory to my teachers, and that's grade 12 physics at that level.
	And they said, this is way beyond.
	I mean, I had it mathematically.
	I had the whole thing.
	I had a whole model.
	They said, this is way beyond, you know, where did you get this from?
	And I said, I just figured it out.
	Figured it out.
	So, you know, I continued my studies, but my main focus in my life was my meditation practice, actually, because my dad got us All his sons into practicing meditation and alternative therapies, which is what he was about, and expanding and developing my consciousness through various practices of breath,
	sound, frequency, and meditation, which many decades later led to the birth of all my technologies, my resonant frequency technologies, which are...
	I had to move my sight just for people who have been following me for the past 20 years, I had a guy who goes by the name of David Wong steal all of my technology, clone everything I make, and make all these David Sarita fraud websites out there trying to direct traffic to his site where he stole everything.
	I mean, all my work, all my frequencies, everything.
	So my only real site is davidsarita.co, White Company.
	I had to move it.
	I've been completely hijacked, and it's been a huge war in the past year.
	But going back to my days working with Maglitch, see, when I started working with an MIT PhD physicist, Bogdan Castle Maglitch, who invented a non-radioactive form of nuclear fusion energy, anatronic energy, where NASA and the Air Force were all over him because they wanted this miniature cubic meter of non-radioactive energy.
	Billion-watt power source.
	This is a billion-watt power source in a cubic meter with no harmful radiation.
	And Maglitch got funding that allowed him to develop three or four models, MIGMA 1 through 4, and they were tested at the United States Air Force, at Kirtland Air Force Base, under Major General D. Lamberson on SuperCray 2 computers.
	And they found in the SuperCray 2 test, which are simulation models, it was going to work.
	Magwitch was going to save the world.
	He was going to change the history of the planet.
	And I did all his communications at NASA. So I developed really good inside contacts.
	And one of my contacts was Earl Van Laningham.
	You can Google him.
	He was the director of all space power propulsion for all of NASA. And he eventually went on to become head of all space access and technology.
	And this is what Earl told me about Maglitch.
	He said, we need this power source because one, we're sick and tired of these solar panels in the space station, which we still have, you know, how many years later, because there's not much power on the panels and Maglitch could give us a billion watt power source in a cubic meter.
	And two, he said that the helium-3 fusion reaction he was creating would produce an ion thruster That could send us up to a tenth the speed of light, which is far faster than anyone can even imagine, you know, human beings moving around.
	And so I spoke in the United States Congress under the Tesla Foundation in the House of Representatives with Maglitch and some famous Hollywood actors like Harry Hamlin from LA Law and a bunch of Nobel Prize winners to get Congress under Clinton and Gore to fund the final stage of his work.
	And we got a big fat no from the Democrats.
	So I started to see what the Democrat agenda is more about.
	It's more about hiring a bunch of lawyers.
	Like, we spent $8 billion in the EPA on paper.
	Paper laws.
	$8 billion.
	We were asking for $10 million.
	And the chairman of the House of Representatives told me, you know, because I'm speaking in front of the whole panel in the House of Representatives, he said, we can't just fund every little idea that comes along, but you can fund paper laws that you can punch a million holes in.
	So going forward, Maglic wasn't funded, and him and I spoke just before his death a couple years ago, and I was able to solve one of the greatest final challenges to attaining nuclear fusion, which is containment.
	And containment is a huge issue, and it is the secret to how these UFOs fly.
	It's a very, very deep subject.
	But he agreed that what I came up with would solve the last problem.
	And Maglic was about to get $15 million in funding from the U.S. government under Trump.
	And this is right in the beginning of his presidency.
	And I said, how's your health?
	He said, I'm swimming.
	Everything's great.
	Of course, he was in his late 80s.
	And I believe he was killed.
	I believe Magwitch was killed.
	He was taken out.
	So Trump formed the Space Force, the United States Space Force, on the 20th of December, 2019, which is only 10 months ago.
	And he created the Space Force because he had true access to To this particular case we're going to go into today, which is the Space Shuttle Columbia incident where it was taken out by UFOs.
	Above our Earth on February 1st, 2003.
	And the story was buried with false information fed to the media that a super lightning strike or a mega lightning strike struck Columbia.
	And what you're going to see here is absolute proof that that's not what occurred.
	What occurred is Craft that we don't know who operates, and that could mean a foreign government, by the way.
	It could mean extraterrestrials.
	But it's most likely extraterrestrials.
	And this event occurs in a region of our atmosphere called the Mesosphere.
	And the Mesosphere is also called the Ignorosphere because it's a level of our atmosphere where scientists have admitted unexplainable phenomena occurring that they wanted to investigate.
	And on that fateful mission of Columbia was a scientist who was about to conduct the most sophisticated experiments in the Mesosphere.
	And, of course, he never succeeded, and the whole thing was shut down.
	So that's where we're going to start.
	Okay, great.
	Now you're going to show some pictures, is that right?
	Right.
	Okay, so what I'm going to do is...
	And I just want to say that I understand, you know, you're speaking from the public that doesn't have access to necessarily secret information, but I can say that according to my sources, they do and are able to identify every type of craft.
	Especially ones that come from Earth, but also ones that, believe it or not, come from outside our solar system and because of Solar Warden within the solar system.
	So even back then, the chances are they knew exactly...
	Who was flying the craft and who was shooting at the Challenger?
	Absolutely important what you're saying.
	We have detection system and detection array.
	We have super radars.
	I mean, traditional radar can see 200 miles.
	And even in the recent case of these Navy pilot testimonies on the USS Nimitz, David Fravor, and again, you're talking...
	Let me just Google this for a second.
	The USS Nimitz date.
	This is really going to shock you, but it's...
	I'm just trying to get the date.
	I'm pretty sure it's, you know, just before I go to screen share, USS Nimitz.
	That's okay.
	And so while you're looking for that, I can just say that...
	2004.
	So the USS Nimitz is November 2004.
	And you have to understand the space shuttle Columbia is 2003.
	And I'm going to show you a direct tie-in to the Columbia and the Nimitz, which is spectacular.
	And that is that the actual location where we lost contact with the pilots, the astronauts in the Columbia, is the exact north latitude of where the USS Nimitz UFOs disappear on radar through a portal At 29 point something degrees north latitude, which is the same north latitude of the Great Pyramid of Egypt.
	So the Columbia goes, disappears in the 29 point something degrees north latitude, and so do the UFOs and the USS Nimitz.
	So there's a tie-in, and they're only a year apart.
	Yeah, and that's fascinating.
	And I also want to talk, I just want to footnote something, which is to the STARS Academy and the fact that they went to the trouble to sanitize that incident and bring it forward, which is very interesting, instead of doing something even more recent.
	That's what they've been putting around, like, you know, wildfire.
	And that's highly suspect to me.
	You're saying Two of the Stars Academy buried what I'm about to talk about?
	I don't know.
	Well, I think the whole government buried what you're going to talk about.
	But aside from that, no, I was talking about the Nimitz.
	Oh, the Nimitz.
	Oh, yeah.
	The fact that they decided to isolate that particular UFO sighting, decided that it was, you know, cleansed enough Yeah, the way they controlled that story is they...
	They really did a poor job on what's called a speed chart.
	And a speed chart shows you the speed of all of our different types of missiles and the speed of our aircraft, which is not more than 1600 miles an hour.
	These fighter jets that David Fravor was flying is no more than 1600 miles an hour.
	And just doing simple math, I've clocked the Nimitz UFOs at 20,000 to 60,000 miles an hour.
	It depends on the data you're looking at, which is quite easy to do the math on.
	But what comes in and hits the Columbia is what we were told is...
	Let me just get the images up on my screen.
	So I'll show you first what this tourist photo took.
	Of the Columbia, and then we're getting, this is going to get really deep.
	It's really going to blow people's minds what this stuff is.
	But these photos here, so let me go to share screen here.
	These photos here, and we're using these photos taken by a tourist from the United Kingdom, Peter Goldie, who tried to bury these photos.
	Under fair use.
	And fair use means we can look at his photos and we can analyze them.
	Now, these photos were taken with a Nikon Coolpix camera that does not have a motor drive.
	This is an early, you know, digital Nikon camera on a tripod.
	And what you're seeing is Columbia is streaking left to right, so it's the straight line.
	And the incoming that's corkscrewing from above is our incoming...
	UFO or UFO based weapon.
	Now the first thing you have to understand is Space Shuttle astronaut Tammy Jernigan told the San Francisco Chronicle because they confiscated his camera that it was a super lightning strike.
	You have to understand lightning travels at over 200,000 miles an hour and it only exists when you're shooting video 30 frames a second and and just let me just stop share because these photos are going to blow your mind.
	This camera back here Which I shot lightning with.
	In its day, it was a $20,000 Canon high-definition video.
	Very cool, yeah.
	Yeah, worthless.
	But those cameras shooting tape do a better job of shooting lightning than digital cameras today do.
	Much better.
	So out of 30 frames, I can only see lightning repeated on two frames out of 30.
	So that's a 15th of a second.
	Now, Peter Goldie is going to take five consecutive photographs with a manual shutter approximately a second apart, and the same lightning strike exists for over 10 seconds.
	Now, that's impossible.
	That's how Tammy Jernigan lied to the public.
	She said this was a lightning strike, we confiscated his camera, and then she tried to tell the San Francisco Chronicle it was an artifact of the guy's camera.
	So in just a second, I'll go to screen share first.
	I want to show you who she is.
	So what do you see on your screen?
	Wikipedia.
	Oh, okay.
	That's the wrong one.
	I clicked on the wrong one.
	Hang on a second.
	Okay.
	It did say her name.
	Oh, it did say her name?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so that's Tammy Jernigan right there on Wikipedia.
	She's 61 years old, so she's a couple years older than me.
	I'm 59.
	Just to give you some perspective, you can Google her.
	She's an integral part of this story because she took Peter Goldie's camera to Lawrence and Evermore Labs and she sequestered it, isolated it from the Secretary of the Air Force.
	So now let's look at the photos and then I'm going to go into how I personally got asked to participate At the United States Air Force level and NASA level on this story.
	So this is photo number one.
	Now, you know, the shuttle is doing 17,500 miles an hour on entry and eventually at the time of the incident it's doing 12,500 miles an hour.
	Because we have relativity, we know how fast the shuttle is going.
	With a simple ratio calculation, I know how fast the incoming is going because in the next photo, I can see how much it's gaining and look at it's pointing It's corkscrewing, but it's pointing right towards the head of Columbia in the second shot.
	So first shot, it obviously underestimated Columbia's position and had to turn it 90 degrees.
	You can't imagine.
	We don't have a single missile that can turn it 90 degrees at 20,000 miles an hour, which is how fast it's going right here.
	Now, the fastest missile on Earth is still...
	The Minuteman missile peaks at 18,000 miles an hour.
	It can't turn like that at 18,000 miles an hour.
	No way.
	You turn that sharp at 18,000 miles an hour, it will deconstruct the missile.
	No airplane can turn at that speed.
	At 90 degrees.
	Now, so photo number two, it's still in the 20-something thousand miles an hour range.
	It's struggling to catch up to Columbia, which is 17.5, 17.8 or 2,000 miles an hour.
	Now, photo number three, it hits Columbia.
	And my calculation between here and here, photo number three, It's over 60,000 miles an hour to suddenly reach Columbia and impact it.
	You'll notice the brightness of Columbia, which means it has been, it has delivered its impact to the Columbia.
	And no, the Columbia didn't lose a tile.
	No, that's not what happened because that's a massive flare-up.
	His camera's on the ground in the San Francisco Bay Area.
	Now, We are told that this is an incoming lightning strike.
	Now look at the entry point of the spiral-chiraling impactor coming from the mesosphere.
	The mesosphere, which is called the ignorosphere, which is right above Columbia.
	The bottom of the mesosphere is about 32 miles away.
	We don't have any satellites up there.
	That's not where they travel.
	The satellites are way, way out there, nowhere near the mesosphere.
	And so why is this lightning strike still there four to five seconds later?
	You see, this is how they lied to everybody, Kerry.
	They told the public...
	That lightning can last for five seconds.
	And do you see any tentacles coming off of this incoming?
	No.
	Have you ever seen lightning behave like this?
	A single, singular strand with not one fractaling tentacle?
	Never seen it in my life.
	In fact, if you go on the internet and look up mega lightning, it's full of tree-like tentacles.
	It doesn't look anything like this.
	And then if you go to photo number four, the beginning of the lightning strike is still there.
	And photo number five, the beginning of the lightning strike is still, the whole thing is still there.
	And people bought this.
	The freaking American public bought this crap.
	Now, the brightness of Columbia compared to before the strike is so much brighter, which means it's blowing apart right away upon impact.
	Now, this next image you see here is a consequence after this took years.
	Okay, so what happens next?
	Let me stop share.
	I'm going to show you from my mail inbox.
	I get contacted by an MIT alumni.
	Because I have the Goldie photographs in my position, and Sheila Widenall, the Secretary of the Air Force, does not have it.
	And let me just see.
	What do you see there?
	I'm not seeing it on my...
	I think I have to get rid of that.
	Get rid of this.
	Okay, this is my letter, which was written by Eric Hermanson, MIT alumni, to...
	I just got to find it in my share screen here.
	I really want you to be able to see this letter.
	Okay, there it is.
	Here's my mail inbox.
	So what Eric Hermanson did, eric.alumni.mit.
	Okay, so he's CCing Jim Smiley.
	At NASA, William Burke, Hanscom Air Force Base, Elizabeth Fountain, NASA, Sheila Widenall, which is Secretary to the Air Force, and there's a huge list of other people at NASA who, Tammy Jernigan denied them access to the photographs that I just showed you.
	So what Eric does is he sends me photographs from NASA's own cameras from the Johnson Space Center, which you're about to see next.
	And he writes Secretary Widnall, you may recall that I wrote you over four years ago regarding the news which reported that Columbia was hit by some sort of electrical bolt before it exploded.
	I have included that historical email chain below.
	I very much appreciate your response four years ago, which means she writes him because he's MIT, just like Magwitch was, my boss, which included some pictures of what appeared to be a purple electrical bolt striking at or near Columbia during its descent.
	Amazingly, considering its importance, not much more became of the subject or the pictures other than a few additional stories that referenced it.
	I am following up to inquire if anything more was learned about the electrical event.
	I have been in contact with a private space enthusiast named David Sarita who has his own ideas of what happened to Colombia.
	So he submits to her A PDF presentation that I produced on the Columbia showing a speed chart of all of our fastest planes and our missiles, and not one of them can equal the velocity of this incoming that goes from 20,000 miles an hour to 60,000 miles an hour.
	To hit Columbia.
	That's not a lightning strike because lightning is way faster than that, remember.
	Again, they deceived us on lightning on duration of a lightning strike.
	It cannot exist for 10 seconds.
	You can't get a picture of the same lightning strike 10 seconds later.
	You can't get a picture of the same lightning strike one second later, not a half a second later, not even a third of a second later.
	You can't do it.
	And so they knew this, Kerry.
	So what happens next...
	Eric sends me pictures from NASA of the same strike.
	And I'm going to show you a few of these.
	They're all coded JSC, which means Johnson Space Center.
	These particular photographs.
	So I just got to open them first and then go to share screen.
	And you're going to see evidence that Tammy Jernigan was lying to the press in a total cover-up.
	So this first photo shows the Columbia streaking left to right.
	But the camera, these are NASA's own cameras.
	And this is before the strike.
	And then all of a sudden you see a single shot of the strike coming from above and hitting Columbia.
	And here's a close-up of it.
	It's a little bit pixelated.
	But you see this thing coming from above.
	Look at the intensity of the flare-up at the moment of impact.
	That intensity of the flare-up is not a tile coming loose.
	I'm sorry.
	This is a full-on detonation.
	And Peter Goldie's photographs aren't close enough to see that intensity of the light as it's hitting Columbia.
	Now, what's really stunning is when you come to...
	I have another photograph.
	I'm just trying to find it.
	This photograph here.
	Okay, you may not notice it, but just to the right of the head of Columbia are three UFOs in a triangular formation.
	And I can...
	Right.
	I actually have another...
	I have a close-up of that.
	So let me...
	You'll see this.
	Because then we come to our eyewitness in Dallas, Texas that day.
	So...
	And that's George Moseman.
	You'll have to interview...
	Him next, because Mosman's story is incredible.
	What I can tell you, that as I'm looking for this shot, I can tell you that Mosman saw, through Zeiss binoculars in Dallas, a purple and a gold lens-shaped UFO ahead of the Columbia, through his Zeiss binoculars.
	He saw it.
	Which means we have eyewitness confirmation of what's going on here.
	Eyewitness confirmation.
	And that means that there really were these...
	I think I just have the one image.
	I just hope your viewers can see this, depending on...
	On the quality of what they have.
	It's in this shot to the right.
	I'm just trying to figure out how you use the zoom tool here.
	There we go.
	Okay, there we go.
	And you see them right there.
	Yeah.
	See the three dots.
	Now, Mosman said he saw two UFOs.
	The third one is much more faint, which is up here.
	These are ahead of Columbia, which means they're not debris, because all debris would be behind Columbia, behind it.
	And these are clearly there.
	So what are they?
	Who are they?
	I mean, this is one of the biggest stories in UFO history because it shows a space war.
	It shows a Star Wars type of war.
	And the question is, why would ETs take us down?
	And if we go back to my friend Boyd Bushman, the Lockheed Martin senior scientist of 20 years, he worked for Howard Hughes at Hughes Aircraft.
	He worked for Texas Instruments, General Dynamics.
	Boyd was a good friend of mine during the last decade of his life.
	I've got hundreds of emails from Boyd Bushman.
	Including photographs of the alleged Roswell alien that I have done a full analysis of the cover-up on those photographs.
	But Bushman told me that he interviewed a Navy pilot who was a good friend of his, was a Navy doctor.
	Was treating a young pilot who had just shot down the Roswell Flying Saucer with a super weapon.
	A super weapon.
	Now, you have to understand that Nikola Tesla was in development of the Tesla death ray in, it was 1943, according to FBI documents.
	I have the whole FBI file on Nikola Tesla and the investigation the FBI did into his death.
	Actually, in the investigation, my boss, Bogdan Maglic, is named because Maglic is a Yugoslav-born, just like Tesla, American physicist who got his PhD at MIT, was a full professor at Rutgers.
	Maglic won a citation award from President Kennedy for the co-discovery of the Omega Mason.
	He's a subatomic particle hunter, and he co-shared the prize with Louis Alvarez, one of the most famous physicists in American history.
	And working with Maglich was Glenn Seaborg and his assistant, Albert Giorso.
	And Seaborg chaired the Atomic Energy Commission under Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon.
	And I met Seaborg with Maglich and Giorso.
	Giorso is even more brilliant than Seaborg, even though Seaborg won the Nobel Prize for the discovery of the plutonium, explosive plutonium isotope that led to the development of the atomic bomb in 19...
	We tested the first atomic bomb at Trinity Site, New Mexico, right?
	So Roswell is 1947, two years later.
	Now, the Tesla death ray was in development at Wright-Patt in 1943.
	And so Boyd's testimony is that this pilot shot down the Roswell saucer with the Tesla death ray.
	And it's very clear that that's what the weapon was.
	Now...
	Bushman developed a further advancement of the death rate, which when I was in Texas filming him, he gave me the opportunity to view the weapon and to see it work.
	I'm the only civilian who knows how this thing works.
	And he said that this new weapon could take out anything that moves.
	It de-atomizes.
	It's basically a de-atomizer.
	So it doesn't cause an explosion.
	It disassembles an aircraft in seconds.
	Because if you understand how everything is held together, this copper cube is held together by dipoles.
	On an atomic molecular scale.
	So molecules are formed with atoms with negative and positive charges on them that forms a molecule and molecules come together and you've got A copper cube.
	Now, if you can take apart all those dipoles with a singular magnetic field that overwhelms the structure in there, it comes apart.
	And that's what Boyd's weapon did.
	So we have in our possession the ability to take out anything that moves.
	And so you have to understand, whatever took out Columbia did it so fast.
	That we couldn't even get a weapon ready to fire back at it.
	But we have taken out so many of them.
	So the question is, starting at Roswell, and you move forward on crash retrieval stories, you think these guys fly halfway across the universe and they crash when they get here?
	We're taking them out.
	We're taking them out.
	And Trump created the Space Force because he knows exactly what I'm telling you right now about Colombia.
	He knows this.
	And then Netflix came out with this hilarious Steve Carroll Space Force comedy, which was obviously funded by the Democrats, to laugh at his Space Force as if there's no threat going on at all.
	And then our prior military knows everything.
	Total baloney.
	Because when the Nimitz guys, Dave Fravar, which is West Coast, And then Lieutenant Ryan Graves reported on the East Coast they were chasing the same flying saucers on the Atlantic, and there were hundreds of them.
	They said it was raining UFOs, and these things were cubic with spheres inside.
	How does a cube fly?
	There's no aerodynamics to a cube, because they're not using propulsion the way we use propulsion.
	So we are in a situation where we've taken out enough of them that there was something on the payload of the Columbia that they were interested in, they were threatened by.
	And I believe it was the experiment.
	So now we go to another document.
	Okay, that's very interesting.
	Yeah, what are your thoughts so far before I go to this?
	No, you're doing a great job.
	I actually just want you to continue.
	I do have a few things, but I'll bring them in at the end.
	So please do continue.
	What time do we have?
	And can you remind me the year we're talking about, Columbia?
	Columbia is February 1st, 2003.
	Okay, so I just want to get that year exact.
	Right, it's the date of the incident.
	So what I'm about to show you next...
	And I thank my co-researcher on this case, George Moseman, who is the eyewitness in Dallas that day, who saw the two UFOs through his Zeiss binoculars.
	One was purple, which is the color of the incoming, and one was...
	There it is, preview thumbnail.
	This is it.
	Okay, so you should be able to see...
	Do you see this citing report document?
	Yes.
	Okay, so I'll read it to you.
	Now, this is crucial.
	Ten years ago, Walter Lyons, a consultant with FMA Research in Fort Collins, Colorado, conducted a study of sprite danger, which is megawitening, for NASA. We concluded there is a one chance in a hundred that the shuttle could fly through a sprite, which is what Tammy Jernigan tried to tell the San Francisco Chronicle this was.
	What impact we didn't know for certain.
	It didn't appear at this time that the energy would be enough to cause problems.
	Remember, what I showed you is a huge explosion upon impact.
	But Lyons conceded that the Ignorosphere, which is the Mesosphere, by the way, is a mysterious place that has yielded startling surprises.
	Since then, with research on electrical streamers, the discovery of blue jets, the doubt has gone up.
	There are other things up there that we probably don't know about, Lion said.
	Every time we look in that part of the atmosphere, the mesosphere, we find something totally new.
	lack of research funding, but the field is dominated by a small club of electrophysicists who have seen their money for research dry up.
	Ironically, an experiment of Israeli astronaut Elon Ramon, who was aboard the doomed Columbia, was among the last fully funded work conducted on sprites.
	Lyons, considered to be one of the leading authorities, said he played a role in the design of the experiment that was going to be on the Columbia.
	To date, sprites have required the presence of a significant electrical storm on the ground, which As the shuttle passed over Northern California, there were some heavy rain showers in the far north of the state, but none of the wild weather normally associated with sprites.
	Hearing a description of the purplish luminous corkscrew in the San Francisco photograph, Lyons said, this was not a Sprite event.
	Not.
	And that's because he knows exactly what I'm telling you.
	So the very fact that Lyons said it's not a Sprite event, and the press was told it was, is complete and utter conspiracy to defraud the American public.
	And he continues, Scientists
	have observed interaction between a blue jet and a meteor, and Los Alamos National Lab researcher David Sikensky and colleagues included lines published an account of a meteor that apparently triggered a sprite.
	Their account is published in the Journal of Geophysical Research.
	It was a singular observation that had us all scratching our heads.
	Said Lyons, in the strange world of Sprite and ELF, electric low frequency research, scientists have documented one event in which some sort of high atmospheric event shot down a high altitude balloon over Dallas.
	So they're admitting that They actually shot down a high altitude balloon over Dallas.
	Now, a balloon is not a conductor, so it's very unlikely that that was a natural event.
	It was probably, again, something seeing us infringing upon their part of the atmosphere, which, again, is the ignorosphere or the mesosphere.
	So there you go.
	Okay, now I want to ask you, do you have any motion video of the actual event?
	Nobody...
	I guarantee you NASA does.
	I guarantee you their cameras do.
	The fact that Eric...
	At MIT released these photographs to me.
	The press has never seen these photographs.
	Ever.
	They've never been published in the San Francisco Chronicle.
	And Sabin Russell, who ran the story on the Columbia repeatedly for the San Francisco Chronicle and the investigation into it, never had access to these photos that I shared with you.
	I had to share my photos, which were Which were Peter Goldie's photos with the Secretary of the Air Force, Sheila Widenall, because Tammy Jernigan wouldn't give them to her.
	That's what I found out.
	She wouldn't give them to her.
	So the Secretary of the Air Force and Hanscom Air Force Base read my report.
	And my report to them looks like this.
	I'll show you what it actually was.
	It was a speed analysis...
	Comparative.
	And this was before I had access to the actual...
	This was my report that was distributed to Sheila Widnall, right?
	And so Peter Goldie snapped...
	It was at 5.53 a.m.
	It has the time.
	It has how many photographs he took.
	It has...
	The time of the incident, it has a comparative of incoming type of plasma weapons.
	We don't have any physical munitions that can come in at 20,000 miles an hour and accelerate to 60.
	This is the physical munition that hit Columbia because a beam weapon like Boyd Bushman's is untraceable.
	It doesn't leave a tracer, right?
	It doesn't leave a smoke trail behind it the way a munition physical missile does.
	I mean, when I was a Department of Defense contractor for Maglitch, we were in the business of very sophisticated...
	Bomb and weapon detection systems.
	They're very advanced.
	We could chemically identify what was inside of the munition.
	We knew what it was made out of, whereas x-rays can only see suspicious things.
	We knew what was inside of it.
	So the shuttle is traveling 12,500 miles an hour at the time of the impact, 207,135 feet above the Earth.
	So if you're 207,000 feet, 135, divided by 5,280 feet per mile...
	You're 39 miles above the Earth.
	You're in the mesosphere.
	So the shuttle is in the lower midrange of the mesosphere, which is this mysterious, unexplainable ignorosphere.
	Okay.
	Can I ask you, though, if it's in the mesosphere, but it's...
	On the photograph, then we are able to photograph the mesosphere, right?
	Oh, yeah, because it's 39 miles up there.
	But you have to understand, that's way above where our airlines are flying.
	I understand.
	But it's useful to know that as mysterious as you're saying it is, we can still photograph it.
	Yeah, and that's where I believe a lot of our UFOs are occurring.
	I'm seeing them all the time here, where we move from Sedona, Arizona to a small town just north of northern Idaho on the Canadian border, and I'm able to determine what's the satellite and what is the UFO. And they're definitely up in the mesosphere range, right?
	Yeah, well, I mean, I think that's really excellent.
	Now, I know, first of all, you said the Secretary of the Air Force didn't have footage.
	Now, I'm going to say that I don't believe that.
	Now, I think unless we're talking about the secret space program, you know, the gap between the secret space program and You know, our normal military.
	And that would be a useful excuse.
	But the bottom line, and I've seen this with Stephen Greer, they act like they don't have it so that you will show them what you've got so that they can be sure to get everybody who's in the public domain, you know, to act as though they tell them what they've got.
	They've got something special.
	But in reality, they've got their own stuff, because there's no doubt about it.
	So you're absolutely right, Karen.
	She didn't have Peter Goldie's photographs, but they had their own photographs, including video of the strike.
	So it's good that you brought up the video, because I guarantee you, NASA's using super long lenses, these big massive lenses, because I'll show you close-ups now.
	They're quite disturbing of the Columbia that are very clear before the strike.
	And the problem here is, I'm not sure that was really Columbia.
	And I'll show you...
	Okay, that's an interesting thing to say.
	But let me just say that if it is the Columbia, then we're talking...
	How many astronauts were on there?
	Was it eight?
	The crew is, you know, it's funny.
	I just remember the face of the East Indian.
	I was just looking at a picture of all the astronauts.
	I really think a special movie needs to be done in this.
	I'm not sure any of them are really dead.
	All right.
	Because that's an interesting thing as well.
	But I just want to say that if indeed it was taken out, it was taken out by E.T. craft, then this is an E.T. civilization that with impunity was happy to take out, you know, eight to ten of our astronauts, right?
	I mean, that's an important point.
	But how many of them have we taken out?
	Well, I don't know.
	Well, we know from Boyd Bushman that we took out the Roswell UFO with a superweapon.
	Go back to the Battle of 42.
	This is just a substantiation of a war in space that I am aware of and that I talk about.
	And it sounds like you're very aware of it.
	But the Battle of 42, you know about the Battle of 42.
	Well, are you talking about the LA? Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	We shot at them 1,400 rounds.
	According to the George C. Marshall reports, we retrieved a craft that we finally knocked out of the sky and took it to Muroc Field, which is now Edwards Air Force Base.
	Okay, but somehow our weapons didn't really do anything to them.
	See, they also have, as you know, it depends where they are.
	You're calling it the mesosphere, but it depends if they're partway interdimensional.
	So they can go interdimensional very quickly, in which case we will miss them.
	Because there will no longer be...
	Oh yeah, and that's why, like, let's go back to my sighting, Berkeley 1968.
	There was not one interceptor jet there.
	They evaded radar.
	You're talking right over the East Bay, right over the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab and the Lawrence Berkeley Space Lab and Lawrence Livermore all had visual sight of my UFO. In fact, in 19...
	In 1972, an eyewitness who works at the space lab, which is right above the campus on the hill.
	I mean, I grew up there.
	I know the whole area.
	He said, we all saw UFO out the window in 1972, which is concurrent with when the Meyer photographs began.
	So, no intercepts.
	There they are, hovering right over the National Space Lab, the Lawrence Berkeley Lab, and there's no fighter jets intercepting.
	Okay, now I'm going to share this photo.
	I made this in 2005, okay?
	I shot this out at the beach at Malibu.
	And there were UFOs doing a demonstration for me.
	And this is what they drew in the sky.
	And it looks a little bit like some of what you've got going on there.
	And this was definitely a UFO. And you can see where it kind of squiggled all over the place.
	And I don't even know how this even sort of manifested.
	So this is what we're talking about.
	We're talking about a craft that can do all kinds of fancy things, including this, okay?
	And so I just want to say that...
	I love that photograph.
	Send it to me because I can do some...
	Okay, I have some other photographs as well done.
	And that was in the days when I had this camera.
	It was just this little handhold camera where you were talking about, you know, cameras don't capture what they used to capture.
	I guess you know that, like these little ones.
	They actually captured, like this camera captured a lot.
	And it was just this little handhold.
	I know those little handhold ones had to be corrected.
	They were seeing into the invisible.
	Yeah, it was amazing.
	They were.
	And now you'll notice.
	And now when I shoot stuff, I can't see anything.
	Can't see anything.
	They actually pulled off the shelf these really high-end cameras.
	See, ultraviolet light is ultraviolet near, far, and extreme.
	And there was a camera that could see the near and the far UV. And you had to have credentials to buy one from the camera store.
	They wouldn't sell one to the public.
	They pulled it off the shelf.
	Well, anyway, so that was back, and it was kind of an old camera even then, so, you know.
	Yeah, Peter Goldie's camera was just a little Nikon Coolpix.
	It was just a little camera, right?
	And there he is.
	Now, the fact that you can see something 39, you know, miles up in the sky means the tracer, which is the smoke trail behind Columbia and the incoming is very fast.
	It's huge.
	And lightning doesn't leave tracers.
	It doesn't leave smoke tracers.
	You know when you see a meteor come in and it leaves a burn trail and you see that smoke trail just for a second, it's gone.
	So when a meteor comes in, it does leave a tracer, but the tracer is gone in one second.
	And he's saying...
	Well, it also doesn't change direction.
	Doesn't change direction.
	A meteor cannot change direction.
	Unless it deflected off something else and that's extremely rare and you would see an explosion actually.
	If it actually...
	If two meters deflected off each other...
	I don't want you to forget what you were saying about...
	You said that you think that it's not the Columbia, that it's possible that the astronauts are still alive.
	Can you talk about that?
	So this is why I can't...
	So this is from NASA's own cameras.
	So let me go pull the close-ups of Columbia up.
	And...
	These are quite disturbing to me because maybe this is Columbia.
	I don't Recognize the shape of this and this is not pixelated what you're about to see so Let me just go to my screen share and you'll see this Okay, this is from NASA's own camera and I took these into Photoshop and there's a lot of resolution in these images Eric sent me from MIT because When you go to the next one, that's super close up, right?
	Wow Look at that curly shape.
	It's almost like the edge of a piece of paper.
	And I don't know.
	I mean, there's a lot of light there reflecting off Columbia.
	If you look, this is before the strike.
	This is before the strike.
	And it's only moments before the incoming hits it.
	But is that Columbia?
	Does it have the bay doors open?
	It shouldn't on re-entry.
	Nope.
	I don't know.
	This is it.
	This is what got hit by the incoming for sure.
	But what is it?
	That's really bizarre.
	Isn't it?
	I'm really undecided on this, because I have a guy who worked for Lockheed Skunk Works, and he'll go on the record.
	I asked him if he'll go on the record.
	And this is in Southern California, and he was eyewitness to a craft that took off That was twice the size of a B-1 bomber, and it could go all the way to space.
	Now, the B-1 bomber can't reach space.
	Space starts at 100 miles above the Earth.
	100 miles, that's higher than the mesosphere.
	And you can't fly in the mesosphere with any aircraft I know of, except for a space shuttle.
	So this guy is saying, now you've got to remember, in To the Stars Academy and their network TV series, Unidentified, they have a Skunk Works insider who tells them, no, I don't think we have cubes with spheres in them.
	The spheres protruded just beyond the edge of the cube.
	Those are the descriptions of the UFOs by Lieutenant Lorraine Graves on the Atlantic.
	And then the reports of the UFOs on the Nimitz were Tic Tac.
	And so those are two different shapes, right?
	But a Tic Tac can also be...
	You have to understand, like, if you run your hand across your eyes...
	You'll see a little bit of a strobe trail.
	Now, if you're indoors, it's the 60 frames a second in the electric light bulb is pulsing at 60 frames a second.
	It'll give you a nice strobe trail.
	But if you do that outside in the sunlight, your brain will hold a little bit of a pattern, which means the tic-tac shape could actually be a sphere, but it's the way your brain interprets it.
	That it could be stretching it out, unless you've got a good picture of it, of this Tic Tac, because there are different descriptions of the Tic Tac from different eyewitnesses.
	And maybe it's a Tic Tac shape.
	It's just that these things, it could even be, here's what I did.
	I took the Navy pilot photography into Final Cut Pro, and I went frame by frame by frame.
	And in two places, I found that the same UFO, and this camera is locked on this thing.
	It's not a handheld...
	You know when you see these fake UFOs on YouTube and the camera's going like this, and it's so obvious it's all studio.
	You know, they're trying to make it look like some guy's shaking his camera, getting a shot of the UFO, and it's just obviously fake.
	But these military cameras on these fighter jets lock on their target.
	So you don't get that effect.
	So...
	In a single video frame, the tic-tac UFO splits in two.
	So there's two of them, and then it comes back together.
	And then they separate again, and they come back together.
	In a single frame.
	That's a 30th of a second it's doing this.
	Now, to the eye, that's too fast for you to see that happening.
	But the brain will interpret that as a stretch.
	So as fear being stretched and coming together, coming apart, coming together, coming apart, coming together.
	So therefore, we don't really know.
	These things are operating on a level of understanding, a propulsion that goes beyond anything even Bob Lazar told us.
	Anything.
	Anything.
	Because Lazar is talking about an exotic element, 115, which Glenn Seaborg and Albert Giorso, my two buddies at the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, where I'm telling them about my UFO sighting in 1968 having lunch with Magvich at the lab.
	Those guys are all dead now.
	And Seaborg had...
	I had access to 37 levels above top secret.
	They told me that day in the meeting, and I told them about my UFO sighting.
	And these guys...
	Seaborg has a particle named after him.
	It's called the Seaborgium.
	It's not...
	If you look on the periodic table of elements and go to the super heavy end and work towards the 115, you'll see Seaborgium is before 115.
	They already knew about 115.
	I told them about Lazar's 115.
	And here's the problem with 115.
	I don't believe Lazar...
	Knew its purpose.
	I believe it existed.
	They found it in the retrievals, but it has nothing to do with propulsion.
	And that's because if you're doing super heavy, massive thrust, ion thrust propulsion, the shock wave of the acceleration of the UFO will destroy everything behind it.
	It will destroy everything behind it.
	And that doesn't happen with these UFOs.
	So there is no supermassive gravity wave at all.
	Because our understanding of gravity is limited to our ability to observe it in relationship to mass.
	And so the heavier the mass, the heavier the gravity weight.
	So that was Lazar's theory.
	But when I'm talking to Seaborg, he's saying that's not how it works.
	If you're anti-gravity, your craft weighs zero, guess how much energy in the form of thrust it takes to go light speed?
	Two volts at a millionth of an amp.
	You're going light speed.
	So there's no thrust.
	There's no heavy thrust.
	Okay, well, my understanding is that actually, maybe this is all wrong, but you're pulling space, actually.
	It's more the vehicle itself isn't moving.
	It's space that's moving.
	It's like an ocean.
	That costs you too much energy as well.
	So, oh, it's funny.
	This is George Mosman calling, and he's our witness.
	But you'll have to interview him separately because his story is massive.
	All right.
	Well, send him over because I'd love to.
	I'll set it up because he's the follow-up because he's the eyewitness to what happened that day in Dallas.
	Well, I heard...
	I don't know what it is, but I heard that Bob Lazar...
	It has something that's, I don't know if it's a piece, I don't even understand what element 115 is, but of course John Lear talked about it too.
	But Bob Lazar supposedly had a piece of it, and they searched his house, you know, right before they did that Bob Lazar, you know, I forget his name, Jeremy, whoever it was.
	Jeremy Corbell, yeah.
	Yeah, who did that.
	Which it was a whole fake thing because there was a lot they lied about.
	But anyway, supposedly they did a whole search of his house right around that time because they suddenly thought he had some kind of piece or something of element 115.
	What would that be, technically?
	Tangentially, what would it be?
	There's no known stable form of 115 that we know of.
	But what really interested me, see, when Corbell was doing his film, I was writing him on Facebook saying, you've missed the whole story.
	The whole story is 115.
	And he was arguing with me about it.
	And I said, I'd really like to help you with your film, but he was quite arrogant and didn't think he needed me.
	And I thought, okay, fine.
	You know, you're on your own, but it's 115's story.
	Well, he was being very carefully managed and told what to do, no doubt.
	Oh, yeah.
	And that film turned out to be a farce.
	Yeah, and I was there at the premiere and I can tell you that people almost wanted to, you know, riot.
	Because they were lying and they also didn't let Bob Lazar really speak.
	And all of a sudden Bob Lazar had memory loss and couldn't remember anything.
	It was...
	Do you know how young Bob Bazar was when they brought him in to Area 51?
	He was a kid.
	And mind you, he might have been brilliant.
	He doesn't know anywhere near as much as I do.
	But that's at my age now.
	When Lazar, and I'm in my 60th year, but when you understand the history of Nobel Prize winning physicists like Max Planck, Niels Bohr, Einstein didn't have a degree in physics, their minds peak in brilliance at about the age of 40.
	So Lazar was just in college.
	He was a young, fresh mind.
	They brought him in and they spit him right back out because they probably weren't interested in his interpretation of the data.
	Now, I know what 115 would be used for.
	You don't need it to exist for more than a nanosecond, which is a billionth of a second, because all you needed to do is to create what's called a micro wormhole.
	And a micro wormhole doesn't, like you said, it doesn't need to move the craft.
	It does its job in a fraction of a second.
	It has nothing to do with gravity at all.
	It has nothing to do with the fact that 115 is supermassive, so therefore in an Einstein formula and a Newtonian understanding of gravity formula, supermassive means supergravity.
	No, you don't need it to do that.
	You have to understand what are called micro subatomic holes.
	There are certain crystalline materials And even iron has a lot of these holes in it, pure iron does, that you can open up these tiny little holes that will swallow a ship right through it and spit it out into this place called hyperspace where you can move faster than light and pop back in.
	So you only need the 115 to exist for a nanosecond.
	So the craft...
	Lazarus had a stable form of it, which means they probably stabilized it in something like bismuth or another super heavy element.
	You could stabilize it as an isotope.
	So it would be an element 115 isotope, which is really complex combinations.
	Of elements.
	And that's what Maglic was doing in his fusion.
	He got a contract for $50 million to make, he was on the phone with me just before he died, A molybdenum isotope that is worth so much money in the medical industry that he said they weren't even interested in how much energy I was going to produce.
	They were interested in the molybdenum medical isotope, and that's why he was going to finally get $50 million for his fusion.
	And then I believe somebody killed him.
	And I'm a major shareholder in that company, and the current CFO won't speak to me at all.
	And I was very close to Maglic, you know, for...
	Why do you think he won't speak to you?
	Do you think he's told not to speak to you?
	What he doesn't know is I solved one of the last great problems in fusion, and that's the containment vessel.
	And the containment vessel...
	You see, all this talk, like Linda Howe has the Roswell sample, the Roswell metals, there's discoveries of bismuth, there's discoveries of silica, bismuth, and aluminum.
	See, you have to contain your field.
	Because most metals, if you use an electromagnetic field tester, and I take...
	A radiation source on one side and this on the other side, not even quartz crystal can block radiation.
	You need to trap it.
	And if you can't trap it, you've lost all of your energy and your gravity, your anti-gravity mechanism doesn't work.
	So the UFO has two functions.
	It has to become lighter, the whole craft has to become as light as a photon.
	And then you can move at super fast speeds.
	And guess what happens with the traditional calculation for folding space-time to create a wormhole, according to Kip Thorne at Caltech?
	Is you need the negative energy of 100 million suns, their total negative energy output for a year, to fit a quarter through the wormhole.
	But that's because the quarter has mass.
	But if your craft is in this zero-mass state, guess how much energy you need to create a wormhole to fold two points in space-time for it to go through?
	Very little.
	And that was what I believe the purpose of 115 was.
	It was an exotic material that could open up a micro wormhole and close it better than any other material that we have today.
	Well, I've heard that gold allows you to go interdimensional.
	Gold is quite heavy.
	I mean, that...
	I mean, this is not a theory.
	This is actually...
	Well, I'd have to see.
	Does gold have semiconductor holes?
	Let me just see if gold...
	But let me say this about it.
	That it's used in space travel.
	It's a major element for that.
	And that...
	Okay, well...
	They're called electron holes in metals.
	So you've got to study electron holes, because electron holes, and maybe what you really need is a proton or a neutron hole, which is much more supermassive than electron holes.
	Well, I know that they can transport materials through wormholes.
	They transport humans through wormholes.
	I mean, you know they're doing this, right?
	That's why they're doing it.
	But they're not doing it.
	You see, the UFO has two stages.
	Once you get the craft lighter than anything, then you can do this.
	Anything that's in the craft?
	Everything in the craft goes into the same state because you have to reach that zero point.
	You see, this is the problem with even the Sim Harriman trying to create zero-point energy.
	You can't use zero-point energy to move something heavy like this copper cube.
	You have to make the copper cube reach zero-point first.
	So what do we do with all of our energy?
	We heat and cool and we move stuff around with it.
	Now everything you move around is super heavy, but imagine if you make everything super light first.
	Then you can move an iceberg and end a drought and drop it in a dry lakebed.
	You can manipulate everything because you figured out on a subatomic level that this isn't really heavy.
	It's only heavy in relation to To our understanding of gravity.
	So we think that the more massive an object is, the more gravity it has.
	Right?
	So if I drop this copper cube in a feather, yeah, they'll fall at the same rate, but the copper cube has way more energy at that velocity than the feather does.
	Right?
	So if they're both as light as the feather, lighter than the feather, as light as the photon, then they don't have any energy anymore in the sense of it being mass.
	But the energy has been converted to light.
	And the only one who understood that was Max Planck.
	So that's the problem with Lazarus' theory.
	He's trying to suggest, and this is why I think they weren't interested in him in Area 51.
	Do you think if they were interested in him, they would have spit him back out and let him tell his story to us?
	Well, yeah, he was used as a patsy, possibly the way Snowden is. - Yeah.
	In other words, he was brought in He sort of, I think, was shown some things, etc.
	And then he was supposed to go out and talk.
	That was actually what his mission was.
	Sure, he could talk.
	But then they did actually bring him back in because John Lear said he went back to work for them.
	Secretly, he did.
	For years, he went off the radar again, went back to work for them, and now he's out again.
	Does Lazar say that he went back to work for them?
	He definitely did, yeah.
	Yeah, I think...
	We definitely understand a lot of how their craft work.
	Boyd Bushman confirmed with me how their craft are operating.
	And I confirmed with Boyd, I said, the reason you have so much harmful radiation in our military anti-gravity craft is you haven't figured out containment.
	All the energy is escaping the container.
	You notice how when they see these UFOs, they have no rivets.
	You can't have any rivets because you're giving away for the radiation to leak out.
	You have to trap it.
	And when you trap it, when you trap electrons or photons in a container, they will quantum tunnel through the wall to get out.
	And the more dense the electron or the photon radiation you're trapping is in the container, when it finally quantum tunnels, it opens up a micro wormhole.
	So I know this because I've done it.
	I built a wave trap.
	Okay, now let me just tell you, though, that they also have the linear accelerators are opening wormholes.
	We know this.
	We know that.
	Look at this, Kerry.
	Roswell follows the Trinity site test of the first atomic bomb, and you got three crashes on all sides of Trinity two years later.
	That's time dilation.
	I understood the whole thing right away because the first paper I wrote in physics was time dilation in proportion to gravity.
	So I understood it right away.
	It's no coincidence that the worm, the hole opened up on those atomic tests and the UFOs came in and they had so much time to play around with us and that hole was slowly closing.
	When you detonate an atomic bomb, the hole stays open for a long time.
	So you may have had weeks or maybe...
	Because look, you had the Kenneth Arnold sighting, and that was in June.
	You had the Portland, Oregon sightings, the pilot in eastern Idaho, then Edwards Air Force Base, they saw eight UFOs over Edwards Air Force Base on July the 7th or the 8th, and then the crashes at Roswell.
	They were all heading, they're flying around our planet, and they're all heading back to the hole, because they were going to go through it and get out the other side.
	Now, we shot some of the craft down, and we got crash retrievals, And Boyd gave me pictures of the aliens.
	Okay, but you know that tops of volcanoes, maybe even inside the volcanoes, as well as storm systems, create vortexes, portals, and UFOs are known to come through those.
	Yes, why?
	You know what intense heat does?
	It melts, it breaks down a magnetic field.
	A magnetic field needs to be super cool.
	But when you break down the magnetic field, it creates the type of portal that I'm talking about.
	Nature can do it with magma.
	You can do it with an atomic blast.
	But there's a way easier way to do it.
	You don't need to do all that.
	Those ways that we did it inadvertently opened up the portal.
	And when you open a portal, just the fact that the portal's there, you already have time dilation.
	So that means that the UFOs probably came through instantaneously.
	They're probably hovering right on the interdimensional Earth membrane.
	And if you see the interdimensional Earth membrane, if you know where it is, which could be the mesosphere, by the way, Look at space as super heavy pushing against the Earth.
	That differential creates a membrane.
	It's the same thing as your skin, right?
	I've skydived from 30,000 feet.
	I trained at Edwards Air Force Base.
	They teach you all about pressure.
	They pressure test you.
	The altitude test you in these chambers.
	And you've got all this pressure.
	We're underwater right now.
	And we're like fish holding our skin together.
	If I send you naked to 100,000 feet, you'll explode because there's no pressure up there to hold you together.
	So that pressure is a differential.
	And so imagine that membrane where the pressure of the Earth and the magnetic field of the Earth is pushing back against the pressure of space.
	Try and see that as a differential gap and that may be Where they come in, why do they come in and leave on these certain longitude lines?
	Like ley lines, where ley lines are connected.
	Why did Sean Cahill, and him and I have been in touch, he's a Nimitz witness, he's in Unidentified, he's the one who saw them go counterclockwise and they disappeared through a hole, the UFOs, And the disappearing point was north of Guadalupe Island, where they detected a huge magnetic anomaly.
	And that magnetic anomaly north of Guadalupe Island is 29.7 degrees, same as the Great Pyramid.
	Now, if you go on that same line, you'll come to the Houston Control Center at NASA. And then you keep going, and you'll come to the moment they lost radio contact with the Columbia.
	And you keep going, you'll come to the Great Pyramid of Egypt.
	It's on that scene.
	Okay, very interesting.
	How does that compare to the 19.5 that Hoagland's always talking about?
	I do a lot of math.
	I haven't taken on that yet.
	Right now, I've calculated the frequencies based on the wavelength, circumference diameters of hundreds of stars.
	And I've calculated musical octaves and frequency octaves for multiple stars because I believe that's how you communicate with them.
	And I've been able to do that successfully.
	I've done a lot of math on spiritual temples and calculating their frequencies.
	And those are what, when people use my devices, at davidsreedy.co, you'll see the staffs, you'll see the wands, the vortex beds, my giant coils.
	On the other side of this wall is a huge...
	Coil that actually the circumference is equal to the width of the Queen's Chamber, the Great Pyramid, times 28 points on the coil is the height of the Great Pyramid.
	I just do all this crazy math and I build devices and I've had physical objects completely disappear.
	Oh, yeah?
	Oh, yeah.
	We had a kid using one of my coils.
	The mom is running the coil.
	He's playing with a toy in his room, and the toy vanished right in front of his eyes.
	They searched the whole room because they thought he might have thrown it, and it was gone.
	It was gone.
	That's very cool.
	I've done the same thing.
	I had a light bulb just completely vanished through one of my Vortex coils, and I know how it's happening.
	It's randomly, the peaks on the waves on another coil, somebody has the polarity switch to negative, so it's spinning counterclockwise.
	And if the peaks on the wave match, it'll pull it through.
	And the chances of that happening, with hundreds of my coil users in the world, is pretty low.
	But when it does happen, something moves through it.
	And that's how I know that's what these UFOs are doing.
	It has to do...
	I mean, this gets into my galaxy clock physics model.
	Well, I mean, that's amazing that you're into that.
	Now, I want to say that to the Stars Academy, because I've been studying these people for a while, and they are completely obsessed, if you don't already know this, with portal physics, right?
	So, I mean, in essence, that's what we're talking about.
	So, this is, you know, this is like the key.
	And in order for...
	Humans to go interdimensional, you have to also do these things.
	You have to be able to go through a wormhole, you know, a portal, you create a stargate, whatever you want to call it, and then you go through it and you link to the way the wormhole works.
	Tell me if you disagree with this, is that the wormhole has to have an opening somewhere else.
	So it has to have an opening somewhere and you go from somewhere to somewhere.
	Otherwise, it's not a wormhole.
	That's how you do that.
	See, when I calculate the circumference wavelength of hundreds of stars, I found no two that are identical.
	So it's the same way radio communication works.
	If you have a receiver negative and a transmitter positive set at the same wavelength frequency, you have communication.
	And just like in the old days when you tuned on your AM dial, which is amplitude modulation or FM frequency modulation, you had to be at the same frequency as the radio station that's sending the message.
	Each star has its own wavelength frequency at its equator, and then it has octaves or bands that get higher and higher and higher frequency.
	So I took the Great Pyramid of Egypt and its exact height And I did an experiment where you take a pyramid, trying to see if I have one around here somewhere, in a water tank.
	And this solid pyramid has to be 51 degrees, 51 minutes, you know, slope angle.
	And I take a ball, a solid ball, the exact same height.
	And I drop them in a water tank.
	They both have the same exact volume.
	So when I took the height of the Great Pyramid as a sphere, a ball, its same height has the same volume as the whole pyramid.
	And I said, which star, if I take the star's circumference, this huge star, and I divide it by the golden ratio as an octave, as a fractal octave, Which star is going to match the height of the Great Pyramid precisely?
	And I'll tell you this, it's an exact star in the Orion constellation, and no other star matches it.
	That's why radio astronomers can't get any messages, because they're just pointing their dishes.
	You have to know the frequencies and the octaves of the star to communicate with it to get a message.
	You're not going to get a message just looking at super weak, faint radio emissions.
	You have to know the frequency octaves of that star.
	And I've done it.
	And I've made contact.
	But no one would believe it.
	That's how it works.
	Because just like you'll never get two radio stations on the same frequency, there's no two stars I've ever seen that have the same frequency, and therefore the same octaves.
	Well, that makes sense.
	I mean, because otherwise you couldn't navigate space.
	You couldn't navigate space because it would get confused.
	It's like Earth has an exact, exact frequency.
	The Tesla Schumann resonance is not the exact frequency of Earth.
	That's only two decimals.
	7.83 is only...
	You need 10 or 15 decimals of accuracy.
	My frequencies on all the stars, which I... My users buy my coils and run Project Astral Stargate frequencies through...
	They have experiences because they're doing the frequencies and all the phi octaves of that star and it isolates your DNA to communicate with that star system.
	And radio astronomers haven't figured this out yet.
	They're not there yet.
	They're still just pointing their dishes, which I think is hilarious, because it's not how the universe works.
	And when you look at...
	I've got over 2,000 frequencies in my stellar database, and you get a perfect match to the height of the Great Pyramid, and then the king's chamber squared...
	If I take that same height of that star...
	In Orion, which is actually Bellatrix, it's not the belt, it's Bellatrix.
	She is the Great Pyramid.
	And I go to the next golden ratio fractal down, the next golden ratio fractal down, I have the exact square of the King's Chamber.
	And the square of the King's Chamber is exactly the same.
	It's 20 royal cubits.
	Which is 34.34 feet.
	And that's Solomon's Temple, Holy of Holies, is 20 royal cubits.
	So it's a stargate to the Huntress, Bellatrix.
	That's what it is.
	That's pretty cool.
	And the three stars in the belt, the Orion's belt stars, which Hancock and Baval said are the three pyramids on the Giza Plateau, they don't match.
	So I've matched the Great Pyramid in two places, the King's Chamber Square and its height, to Bellatrix.
	Like, two places!
	I mean, people knew what the math meant.
	So that means when you do those frequencies, if you do those frequencies in a wave trap, And you know how to make the wave trap out of the right material, because this is going to answer your question, because the wormhole has to have an opening on the other side.
	You have to know where you're sending it.
	So you need to know the octaves of the star system you want to enter.
	And then once you get inside of that star system, then you don't use wormholes anymore.
	You can travel super, super fast when your craft and your pilots are weightless.
	They don't weigh anything.
	Gravity and inertia no longer have any impact on them.
	And you can zip around that system at incredible speed.
	And no one will see you traveling that fast.
	You can't see a bullet going by you at 700 miles an hour.
	You can't see it.
	But it's going right in front of you at 700 miles an hour.
	Now, when you get distant from a fast-moving object, you can start to see it.
	But 60,000 miles an hour, you couldn't see it.
	Even from here to the mesosphere, I don't think you could see 60,000 miles an hour very well.
	Okay, so...
	To get back, just back, you know, and thank you for all of that, because it's fascinating and brilliant, and I'm going to run it by one of my witnesses, Captain Mark Richards, next time I get a chance to talk to him and see what he has to say about all that.
	One of the things that he talks about all the time is that, and this is why the Navy runs things, as you may know, you know, Navy intelligence runs things, but it's also because Going into space is very much like going into the ocean.
	Everything about the building of the craft, etc., is matched most closely with our ocean.
	I know that Bob Dean talked about a ship in the ocean that we have the ability to now...
	I don't think I understand the science exactly, but it's something to do with Putting something in front of the ship where it actually is kind of like almost pulling itself through the water and that it's, in other words, people think it's pushing itself, but it's not.
	So it's the same principle as the UFOs.
	It's drag.
	The problem is, you see, the way you explain it is airplanes call it drag.
	So your air mass has a density.
	When I skydived from 30,000 feet, I was doing 300 miles an hour.
	The second I hit the lower atmosphere, which was less than a minute at that speed, it was like jumping into a lake.
	My oxygen mask instantly rattled violently.
	I had to hold on to it.
	It was going to rip off my face and hold on to my mask until I slowed down to 120 miles an hour and opened my parachute.
	But the point is we already are underwater in the atmosphere.
	And then when you get into water, that's the next membrane.
	That's why the atmosphere has all these different bands.
	And when you get into the water, you have the same problem.
	So when an airplane is moving through that membrane, it pushes on it.
	And so that pushing makes it go slower, and it also makes it rattle.
	It becomes unstable.
	But Bob Deach said secretly they have eliminated drags.
	I know exactly what he means.
	And that's because even in this case of the Nimitz, they saw the UFO go under the water and a submarine operator said they clocked it at double their fastest speed.
	Under the water.
	Now you have to understand, you can't use radar underwater.
	Radar, they use sonar.
	So the sonar data may not even be accurate.
	It could be going faster than that, is what I'm saying.
	Because radar is at the speed of light.
	Sonar is nowhere near the speed of light.
	So to do the math to detect something that's moving that fast under the water, yeah, it's eliminated drag.
	Which is the pressure of the water impeding on the craft, but we don't know how they did it.
	And even if you send a shock wave in front of the bow, I've seen these propulsion concepts for Navy ships that send a shock wave in the front of the bow that allows that ship to travel much further.
	It breaks all the waves in front of them before they hit the wave, basically.
	And the same thing can happen underwater.
	And I think we have that technology.
	And I know some of the scientists that developed it.
	But it's like a pre-shock to the shock, so that you don't get shocked.
	And airplanes can technically do the same thing.
	As you would do underwater, which can explain hypersonic travel that is stable.
	But you still have the problem of turning.
	Let's say you could even do a tenth the speed of light.
	You can't turn to avoid an incoming meteor.
	That's why these UFOs don't go flying through the whole solar system at incredible speed.
	They can zip around the local environment.
	If they hit something, Going that fast, they can't turn.
	Not with our technology, you can't turn.
	So, with their technology, you can turn.
	Because remember, if you don't weigh anything, if your mass, the gravity is zero, you can turn right at 100,000 miles an hour and you won't feel a thing.
	But if you even have a tiny bit of mass, and we're made mostly of water...
	We're spam in a can.
	We'll just liquefy on that turn.
	Our whole body will liquefy and explode.
	All our blood, everything will just splat, just from the turn.
	I want to know, why does the Columbia look in that photograph that you said, I guess was NASA's photograph, I think.
	That's NASA's.
	Yeah, why does it look like square boxes sort of like next to each other?
	It doesn't look even remotely like a craft.
	I don't know what this is.
	It makes me think, is this the description of my buddy who used to work for Skunk Works and saw something twice as big as a B-1 bomber take off that could travel into space?
	Is this a target that was set up so that the incoming weapon was target practice?
	And a demonstration for Department of Defense.
	And they had to tell us it was a space shuttle because we would wonder what the heck it was.
	I don't know.
	But that doesn't look like the Columbia to me.
	Unless it's an optical...
	It's not a pixelated image.
	It could be the Columbia.
	It's just the way the light is hitting it.
	But it doesn't look like the Columbia to me.
	At all.
	Right.
	And so the question is, I mean, because, you know, when they have a launch, they watch the launch, right?
	So they watch it from, you know, when it leaves the earth.
	So in theory, it's always on camera, right?
	And now again, are you saying they have no...
	They must have motion camera...
	Even that they show the public up to a certain point.
	Is it after a certain point that they don't show you?
	I haven't seen any motion camera until it broke apart.
	I was in Sedona that day lecturing on NASA UFOs and I remember the smell in the air.
	I didn't live in Sedona yet at that time.
	I lived there for seven years where my first daughter was born.
	But I remember the smell.
	It was very toxic.
	The smell of the burning, alleged Columbia.
	But this particular close-up, and this is from a JSC, Johnson Space Center photograph, of Columbia before it was struck.
	And I want to send this photo to my buddy at Lockheed Skunk Works and tell me, is this what the huge craft you saw take off, twice as big as a B-1?
	Have you ever seen a B-1?
	Oh my God.
	The sound that thing makes when it takes off is mind-blowing.
	He said this thing had no sound when it took off and landed.
	No sound.
	That means it's not using thrust.
	It's using a kind of anti-gravity that basically gets closer and closer to super low mass.
	Because if your mass is super low, there's no need for thrust.
	Very tiny amounts of energy will send you up and out.
	So the B1 doesn't look like this either.
	But I said, what is this thing?
	Is it just the angle of NASA's camera that the Columbia looks like?
	That is very possible.
	It is possible.
	I'd have to do a deeper analysis of this.
	Columbia's bay doors have to be closed on re-entry.
	I mean, I know exactly what it looks like in my mind, but I'd have to take the Columbia at different angles under bright light and try to compare it to what this image shows.
	But so far, I can't see the Columbia in this image.
	Okay, well, I saw a UFO and we filmed it right on my deck.
	And what I saw, and I was using a camera, a motion camera, filming it.
	And it picked up, what it picked up on the camera was actually two rings, interlocking rings.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	And kind of, you know, fuzzy around them.
	And then what I saw was actually a diamond-shaped UFO, and I saw the bottom of it crystal clear with almost like lace with light shining through it.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	And I can't explain.
	And I was the one filming.
	So I was filming, but I wasn't paying attention to my viewfinder.
	I don't think.
	I must have been like, I don't know if I left my body and went up in space to look at it or what happened.
	But that's, I mean, it's quite an extraordinary.
	And I actually had my partner made a drawing of it.
	I have it on a video.
	A drawing of what I described that I was seeing.
	So I'm just using this as an example because you're talking about the Columbia looking one way on film and a completely another way in physicality, so to speak.
	So they have those big, fat, super long lenses.
	To take this picture.
	And I zoomed in on this photo and it didn't pixelate.
	If you're looking at pixels, then you're not looking at a true structure because pixels have sharp edges.
	But I'm not zoomed in far enough for there to be pixels.
	And, you know, when I was young, I was a darkroom photographic master.
	I won all these awards in photography.
	I have hundreds of hours in the darkroom.
	And I know film really well.
	I would guess in those days, this is film.
	Because it's 2003 and digital cameras were not that good yet.
	So that means they scan the photo, turn it to a digital image, and then you're zooming in on a scanned photo.
	But I can't confirm that because I just know, even now, I have a Nikon D800E, which is 36, 37 megapixels and megapixels are not everything on cameras.
	It has to do with the size of the CCD and it has to do with megapixels and there are some other factors.
	Optics, the bigger the lens, you can have lower megapixels and have a better image than a camera with a lot of megapixels with a tiny little lens.
	So you have a lot of glass A big lens, and I know they're using the best cameras on this shot, so I doubt I'm looking at pixel distortion there, is what I'm saying.
	And the fact that you can see that curvy paper edge on the bottom of this thing tells me I'm not at the pixel level yet.
	I'm not being distorted by pixels.
	So I don't know what to make of it.
	It's the most disturbing thing.
	See, on Peter Goldie's camera, you can't see this.
	You just see the streak and the head of the streak.
	And then when the incoming hits it, the Columbia just flares up in brightness, which means the thing exploded.
	I mean, it maybe didn't come apart into several pieces yet, but it delivered its energy, and that shouldn't just loosen a tile.
	That's not what caused the Columbia to come down.
	And I started to go back to the other space shuttle incident, which was the one you sent me this morning.
	Challenger.
	Challenger, and I tried to see if there was a similar story there, but there's no way to get data on that.
	Actually, I have a secret witness on that one.
	You do?
	Yeah, and he died.
	They killed him.
	Actually, you know, I had a phone call.
	His wife was right there in the room with him.
	He received the phone call, answered it, and dropped dead.
	She saw it happen.
	Oh, my God.
	And that was after he did an interview with me.
	I'm trying to remember his name.
	But it's on my website.
	What did he say happened to Challenger?
	Well, he was on a ship, and they saw it hit the water.
	And they said they saw humans still alive in there.
	And they were not...
	The ship was told to go away, to not rescue them.
	And it's a whole...
	I mean, it's a whole...
	I was on...
	It was either Art Bell or George Norrie right when I first reported the Columbia incident.
	And I didn't have the NASA confirming photos yet.
	I only had Peter Goldie's photos.
	I did not have the email from Eric at MIT yet.
	And the correspondence with the Air Force...
	But somebody called in, and this woman didn't even know that the Columbia was down.
	And she had a dream of this golden beam craft that came into the Columbia and rescued all the astronauts and took them out before it came apart.
	This was a dream, and she had it live.
	The dream was happening as it was occurring, because this was at 5.53 a.m.
	Pacific time, according to Peter Goldie's report.
	So she was dreaming it, and my God, what?
	I mean, maybe that happened on a spiritual level.
	Maybe the astronauts were taken out.
	Maybe...
	Well, that's what I'm wondering.
	I'm wondering if that picture that NASA has, with all those kind of boxy things around it, maybe they enveloped it in some kind of beam thing or something, and maybe that's what hit it from view at that exact moment.
	Right.
	Maybe some things are sharing it.
	See, that's very possible.
	Right.
	Because, again, even with a long lens, you're looking 39 miles up.
	That's way up there.
	That's incredible.
	It's over a hundred and something thousand feet up in the sky.
	So, I mean, there's no doubt.
	The story gets deeper because there is evidence that ETs are visiting our planet.
	Would they give us a virus to wipe us all out so that they could take the planet from us?
	Coronavirus or whatever this thing is, is puny because it doesn't kill anybody.
	Right.
	I mean, tuberculosis kills two million a year.
	Pneumonia, which is a complication of the flu.
	See, I really didn't like this when the media said...
	That when Trump said the flu is more deadly than coronavirus, he's right, because pneumonia is part of the flu.
	And pneumonia kills 3 million a year, 1 million of those are children.
	Now, that changes over years, you know, between 2 and 3 million.
	But coronavirus is only at 1.3 million, and many of those deaths are stolen pneumonia deaths.
	And so, therefore, this thing is not a big threat.
	But would they now say coronavirus can be traced back to the September before recent, which means it was before Wuhan that it came onto the planet?
	The incident at Fatima.
	The miracle of the sun at Fatima, I believe, was a supermassive UFO. Fatima, Portugal, the end of 1917.
	The Spanish influenza begins right after the incident.
	Kills 55 million people worldwide.
	280 million Americans died of that.
	And the masks in America during the Great Influenza did not stop this virus from killing.
	Well, actually, there's two things.
	One is, I think the invention, I'm not sure, of radar was when that is also at the same time.
	And they say it had to do with the change of the, you know, the waves, I guess, from radar.
	And then the other thing is that there's these hidden caverns in, you know, Gibraltar where the British hid and Hitler used to use.
	But the British actually army took it over and that there's a...
	Inside there, there's this bell.
	Do you know about the bell?
	Yeah, the Nazi bell.
	Okay, so the bell is actually underground in that area, and it was theorized that it's actually...
	The activation of the bell, which creates a portal, which sends out a certain amount of radiation in the area, and that that's actually what the Spanish flu was.
	That's World War I. So Hitler was World War II, 1940.
	I don't know how long the bell, you see, we don't know.
	How far did the bell go back?
	Yeah, exactly.
	With all that, because actually the Nazi, you know, all of that, It was in the 1930s, but the U.S. was also experimenting with this kind of thing in the 30s that a lot of people don't know.
	Oh, yeah.
	Our super experiments done at Bell Labs, and I've studied a lot of those old experiments, goes way back, late 1800s, early 1900s.
	Definitely, we were doing very advanced things.
	Oh, incidentally, I have to wrap it up for today because I've got to pick up my daughter.
	No problem.
	I know.
	I really appreciate your time.
	And I just want to say that that's a very interesting correlation.
	I don't want to minimize it.
	What you're saying is the idea that there could have been an incoming UFO that actually created some kind of field that then made people ill.
	And I think that's an interesting idea.
	Yeah, I don't know of any major UFO event that started before the supposed coronavirus, which is still in question for me, is a mystery.
	Well, we have patents for the coronavirus going back even before September.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I remember on the Lysol canisters.
	I remember my mom used to have Lysol.
	I remember Lysol, and everyone knows it could kill coronavirus.
	Even Corona 19, there's evidence going back earlier.
	Several years where they were talking about it for some reason.
	Yeah, but see, here's what doesn't make sense.
	If you want to release a virus that trims your aging population, because this virus mostly kills people, like in Canada, over 95% of the deaths are people over the age of 80.
	So, but then why do you want to save them all if you're trying to get rid of them all?
	Yeah, no, I mean, it's completely absurd.
	No, but the reality is that it's not efficient at all.
	If you wanted to use it to eliminate any amount of population...
	It's not doing a good job.
	So then you have to look somewhere else.
	Unless it's going to mutate.
	Because it already is mutating.
	It is mutating.
	But there's also an AI component.
	I could talk to you all night and all day because you have so much knowledge that none of this stuff...
	Sometimes I say stuff and it just gets lost and nobody cares.
	But I can see where you would actually latch on to some of this stuff and be able to Have a conversation about...
	Well, we, our device that Magnus developed for detecting all sorts of contraband, we could also, we offered DOD, this was in 2006 when we had our contract, we could detect live airborne viruses and pathogens that would turn on an alarm in the middle of the city streets and say, everybody put on your mask, we've detected a live biological, chemical, Or viral agent.
	They didn't want it.
	We wanted to set up a whole system of alarms.
	But with that, I've got to go.
	We'll do a follow-up.
	Yeah, let's definitely do that.
	And thank you so much, David.
	Great, great job.
	Okay.
	Send me the link when you have it.
	I will.
	It's the same link I gave you already.
	It doesn't move.
	It stays on my website.
	And I think this is not the kind of thing they're going to take down from YouTube.
	I think we're cool.
	So thank you very much.
	All right.
	Thanks, Karen.
	All right.
	And thanks, everyone.

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