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Oct. 17, 2020 - Project Camelot
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DR SHARNAEL WOLVERTON SEHON - NATUROPATH AND CONTACTEE EXPERIENCES
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Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I have Dr.
Sharnel Wolverton Sihon, I hope I'm saying all those names right, with me today and it's really lovely to have you here, Sharnel, and you have such an unusual name, maybe you can tell us where that all came from.
But today we're turning tables because you interviewed me last week and I'm interviewing you this week.
And then we're going to do a part two with me tomorrow.
So a lot of back and forth with us and that's a lot of fun.
So welcome to the show and say hello to everyone.
Thank you so much for having me, and thank you, everybody.
It's just such an honor to do anything with you.
You're just amazing.
I love you.
Thank you so much.
Okay, so you are pretty amazing, too, apparently, and you are what's called an ND, a naturopath doctor and a minister, and you teach divine health in the human body.
You're what's called a crown diamond in young living, which...
I don't know what that is, but we can ask you.
And you're passionate about reconciling all people to an integrative life, mind, body, and soul, teaching in over 44 countries, having 15,000 clients in those countries, and an influence on social media.
So you've authored five books, and one is called The Science of Miracles, Remembering the Frequency of Love.
And the other is Keto Reset 31 Days to New Life, as well as a card deck, Crystals, Oils, and Decrees card deck, which it goes on about divine science and consciousness epigenetics, quantum health, etc., So, and you live in LA, meaning, is that Louisiana?
Lower LA. Yeah, I'm actually from Montana.
Yeah, I'm actually from Montana.
My dad was in the service, so we lived overseas mostly, and then in the northern areas.
And then when he was deployed, we would go back to Montana.
But I'm here right now.
Yes, I'm here right now.
Okay, great.
And I'm going to try to get you on the screen here.
So, something going on with this.
But at any rate, so what I'd like to do is talk about, again, your name, because it's really unusual.
And where did that come from?
Well, that was actually part of my...
That still is part of my story.
When I spoke with you off camera, at one point, I had talked to you about...
The semi-lab things that happen and off-planet things that happen and that's a whole other deal.
But my mom was actually given my name in a dream when she was pregnant with me.
So among other things that happened while she was pregnant with me, she was also given my name.
She didn't know what it meant.
And a matter of fact, it was a dream.
And so when she woke up, she couldn't remember the dream.
And so I wasn't named right away because she was just plagued with making sure it was the name that they had given her.
And she went to a couple baby showers right within the time of me being born or her friends being born.
And one was a Michelle And one was a Sharon, and then she realized sitting there just came to her Charnell.
Now, it wasn't until I was 25 years old that I actually even knew what the name meant.
I really didn't like my name.
Oh, and by the way, I was born at 333.
And the doctor who delivered me, his name is Dr.
Harold Messenger, which I think is interesting.
It's the same doctor who delivered my mother.
I still don't know the 100% understanding of all of that, but Harold Messenger, kind of interesting.
And I did find out at 25 that my name is Hebrew, which, whatever, but Sharna means rose.
El is of God.
It also has to do with electricity, frequency.
That's where we get the words like electric, elect.
It all has to do with source code.
Sharna also means warrior, which is interesting because, so warrior of electricity, currency, source, God, and rose, which is, you know, the perfect balance of male, female, in connection with electric code, source, God.
Okay, very good.
You know, it's fascinating, really.
And Charnel is a very pretty name.
So the Wolverton part, did that...
How did that...
You know, is that...
And Sihon.
Your last name is Sihon, so it always...
I assume that's your parents last name as well or no?
So Wilburton is still my name.
I never lost, I never took away my maiden name.
I was actually married previous and never got married.
I mean never took on anyone's name.
I just kept Wilburton.
I was the oldest female in my dad's lineage and there were no boys and I wanted to carry my name.
I kept my name, and my former actually took my name, which is whatever.
I stayed Wolverton most of my adult life, and being a doctor, and being in social media, and traveling, and having that brand with everything on it.
When I did get married two years ago to my childhood sweetheart, I took his name.
So now I'm still Shornel Wolverton, but I'm also Sihon.
Okay.
All right.
That explains it.
So Wolverton is your real last name.
That's an interesting last name.
And if you don't mind my asking, do you know where Wolverton comes?
Like, is it what country is it from originally or...
German English.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Fair enough.
And then my mom's side, my dad's mother is Dane.
And then my mom's mother is Dane.
And my mom's grandfather is Norwegian.
So a lot more Scandinavian than anything else.
And then they came over at 16.
So I grew up hearing Scandinavian fluent in the house.
And we would go to all the Scandinavian languages.
But I also lived in Germany for four years as a kid.
And then I lived in England a couple times and went to the University of London.
So I don't know.
I'm just a mixed bag of whatever.
Are we all?
Yeah, absolutely.
But it's always fascinating to kind of delve into all that.
So can you tell us about the super soldier side of yourself?
How does that come about?
And what do you have to say about that?
Yeah, so that is just...
I started having memories that I can literally see myself where I was when I started really having more vivid memories of things.
That was at 10 years old.
I was in Germany at the time.
I believe I had just come back from East Berlin with my parents and seen all the Checkpoint Charlies and what have you.
And I'm not sure if the code of being over there are just something...
Opened up.
I don't really know.
I just know I had bunk beds at the time in my room and I was on the lower bunk and I was in trying to go to sleep and all of a sudden I started having memories of some things that were very disturbing and also different and really displaced, to be honest.
I do remember being even younger and talking to my parents about them watching me from the moon and Just different things that honestly, I don't know, it probably sounds crazy.
And then my parents were just like, whatever.
I do remember also being able to see code around people, numbers, colors, and different things, especially younger.
The older I got, it wasn't as much, but it was reactivated.
In the late 90s, it's not on 100% all the time.
I sense it more than I see it anymore, but there are times when it completely turns on and I don't know how to make it go on or off.
I wish I could have more control about that kind of thing.
Maybe it's just a learning situation, but going back to your question, I didn't even know what that word meant or those two words meant.
It wasn't until 2015, late 2015, early 2016, I was diagnosed with cancer and also going through a very difficult marriage breakup situation.
And I, you know, it wasn't until talking to you really that I was, could even identify that maybe that was a turning point of like a wake up for me.
I knew it was a wake up on my health, but it seemed to be a wake up in a lot of different things.
And so I, you know, I had spent many years in ministry and in church type programs for a little bit, for about 15 years.
And So I had some unprogramming to do and I think the more that I was deprogramming and the more I was actually had the courage to seek out some new ideas and different things having to do with even science-based Kundalini if you want to call it that or whatever and just doing some meditations and reading other books besides the Bible and you know and I love the Bible on a quantum physics level because I'm crazy about
quantum physics and consciousness and just the breath of words and how it creates and I think there's a lot left out and displaced and Definitely not interpreted or translated correctly, but there's, you know, there's things to it.
But, you know, I started really doing some investigating and over about two or three years had to really just go like, what the crap is even true anymore?
Like what's true?
And in the meantime, having all of these like slashes still that were very displaced and didn't talk to too many people about any of this because it was so random.
And then over my life, too, having times where I was, you know, missing time, and, you know, lights coming outside my window, and then eight hours later, 12 hours later, I'm back, and, you know, just lots of things were going on over the years that didn't really make a lot of sense to me.
A lot of Um, precog type dreams that I would tell people and they would come true.
Some of them on a global level.
Um, you know, there's just a whole mess of things going on, but it wasn't until, uh, I'm going to cry.
So in May of last year, somebody, uh, I'm sorry.
Let me go back to the beginning of last, last year.
I had ran into a friend who I've known since the nineties and And he had been going through some transition because we were both happened to be in ministry for years at a time, but he was out and I was sort of, I was definitely out and had changed my location to be a naturopath.
Went back to school and started this naturopath thing and we kept up over the years and we met up for something and he called me out straight up and he was like, you're remembering the chair, aren't you?
Hello?
Can you hear me?
Okay.
We're having some connection issues.
And I also want to say, I don't know.
Are you there, Chanel?
Yes, I'm here.
Internet.
Okay.
We lost you right there.
You're here now, right?
Yes, ma'am.
Can you hear me?
Okay.
Yeah.
And just so everyone knows, she's on a phone and there's a bit of a connection issue.
It's normally very good, but I just want to say I'm not able to do this Zoom thing where I'm supposed to be able to isolate the pictures or do anything like that.
So I can't It's not acting normal here.
We're having some weird, you know, electromagnetic anomalies happening here.
So you got interrupted when you were saying about reconnecting with a friend, I think you said, like a year or a year and a half ago, and that he called you out.
What do you mean by he called you out?
Okay, and to go back, this seems to be a normal thing, no matter if I'm on a computer or not.
I don't know why this happens in almost any interview that I do.
I think it's a frequency thing, but it's okay.
We met up about some other things, and he could see, I guess, read in the code or whatever that I was having these images and called me out, meaning he said, you're starting to remember the chair, aren't you?
And I hadn't told anybody.
So that was interesting.
Okay, and you're talking about the Montauk chair, I would imagine?
Yes.
Okay, and we actually talked about having some similar things to do with Montauk.
So do you want to explain to people, because a lot of people don't know about the chair, and certainly won't know what you mean by that.
Yes, so my dad was stationed in Montauk when I was in the 70s.
I was born in 70, so I was there from 2000, from 74, I believe, to 76 or 73, 74 to 77, around that time period.
and they were taking me out of the classroom, not just them, but even later in other bases, running tests and doing things.
And we were underground.
There's just a lot of things that happened underground, including a chair, which they would put you in a chair And I don't remember all of it.
I just know it kind of looked like a high-tech dentist chair or something.
Uh, it could, they would, they could bring you to the future and back and different dimensions, different planets, do all kinds of things.
And they were using children because they were more empathic and or wouldn't question, I guess, or maybe more formidable to, to use.
And also from what I understand, I was used because of, um, my bloodline and what they had done in my mom's womb.
And, um, and also just natural, um, Empath abilities.
I have a lot of different abilities and then they've also enhanced.
I mean, everyone's got gifts and abilities, everybody.
And then there's other things with my lab stuff where they enhance.
I know part of my thing is just being able to read people a bit, tell if people are lying and also connecting on a thought to thought and with animals specifically too.
There's a lot of training having to do with the animals, and even there is also a thing where they would try to get you to tame animals, be with animals, see if you were scared of different animals, put you in cages with dogs and wolves and snakes and, you know, insects.
It seemed like they tried to get you to almost feel sorry or empathic for, I don't know, this is something I remember, but like insects.
It's Like, they wanted you to feel empathic towards ants or small insects.
And I can remember even way later in my life, still to this day, I will not step on an ant pile.
I will not mess up.
And if there's a bug in my house, I will get a jar and, like, let it out.
I remember being, I mean, a fly in the car and I will roll down the window and let it out.
I won't kill anything.
And also...
There's been extremely rough animals that people, including a handler, that tried to stick the worst animals on me and they just completely bow down and or, I don't know, they just sense me and they won't do it.
They won't hurt me.
So...
Okay, so that's, you know, that's very interesting.
I think, I forget which movie.
It might have been, what do they call, Insurgent or Divergent or one of those movies where they...
I don't know if it's that one, but there's a movie where they show that.
It's a sequence in which you deal with a ferocious animal, and then they see how you deal with it.
But anyway, it just happened to remind me of that.
So back to the chair in Montauk.
So your father was based...
So what did your father do in the military?
There were these big satellite dishes, if you've ever seen anything with Montauk.
He did inspections and what have you having to do with that satellite, which I don't know if that's technically a real HAARP kind of stuff or satellite with alien stuff or I don't know.
I've actually tried to talk to him about it even as an adult.
And I don't know if it's because he doesn't really know about it or he's just really good at not telling me.
But they've had several of these.
They have them in Okinawa.
They have them in Iceland.
They had one in North Dakota and Fortuna.
And all of these places my dad was stationed.
And I didn't know any of this until, you know, these years that I was really investigating because once I started figuring out about Montauk, I started asking questions and asking my mom and saying, you know, where was Dad stationed?
I knew there was a satellite just like that in Fortuna, and we were there.
So I asked him about Iceland and Okinawa, and I googled and looked and just put like satellite or...
and there it was, the picture of the same kind of thing.
And I was just like, so Dad basically did anything where they went, you know, we went.
Now, I didn't live in Japan, and I didn't live in Iceland.
That was one of the times where he went, and we weren't allowed to go, and so I went back to Montana.
But he was stationed there working on all that.
Okay, so do you think that your father...
Is he still alive right now?
Yes, he is.
Okay, do you think that he has missing time and memories?
Like, could his memory be wiped, or do you think he...
Actually knows, but he has, like, above-top secret clearance, or what's the story?
Believe me, I'm a pretty good bullshit detector, and I've tried all the different ways to talk to him, and he honestly acts like he has no idea about anything.
I've even said, like, well, what about, like, UFOs, and what do you think about off-planet?
And he was like, I don't know, seems like there might be, and Either he's really good or they did wipe him.
I know they've wiped me so many times that even when people ask me questions about time and space, it is really disjointed.
Real timelines are very disjointed for me because I think it messed me up a little bit.
I'll say, I remember that thing that happened the other day and my husband will be like, baby, that was four years ago.
I've been so...
In and out and back and forth that I think that it's like broken on some levels or maybe there's no time and space for me, but it's something that has been a challenge for me to even talk about things because even remembering my kids' birthday and things like that, you know, and then there's other things that are like sharp, you know, like that won't go away, you know, that are just nailed in there.
So I don't know.
Okay, well, that's really funny, because I have that same thing.
So it has to do with time travel, definitely, and doing a lot of it, so to speak.
But, okay, so in terms of I just want to make sure that we go back to the Montauk chair for a minute, because Montauk obviously is also related to the Philadelphia experiment, for those listening, and I think most people will know this by now, and a lot of the information is already out there, but It's not that often that you come across people that have been dealing in their past with Montauk.
And I have a history that I don't really talk about.
I might have put it in my book, but I don't actually remember if I did.
So it's funny when you mentioned it, because I had some stuff with Long Island and Montauk and the whole thing.
And so I know things about that because I was utilized in that also capacity.
So you went into underground, right?
Yeah, and I did not technically know it was underground.
I just had a feeling that it was.
And I know that it was wet on the floor.
It was very cold.
There were cages of lots of children, lots of animals.
We ate dog food.
When I would have these flashes of this, I mean, as whatever age you are, to go like, what am I thinking about me being in a cage?
With dogs, you know, in a dark place.
That's another thing, is they would put us in dark for long, long periods of time, which I now understand as part of the whole psychic abilities, seeing where they, I choose to remember the name, but apparently they do it among, like, Native Indians and other things.
But they call it, like, cradle...
cradling or something like that but I mean again this is things that and then what's interesting too is when I moved back to Montana my parents had a my grandparents had a German Shepherd and the dog wasn't allowed in the house and I was always feel like so sorry for it and there was a little tiny entry point that came in you know where they would let it in when it was really freezing cold and if they I would stay the night in this little boxy area and eat dog food with the dog
and I was just like six seven years old and I would get in trouble all the time for but it was just normal for me and like looking back it doesn't seem normal and obviously for them it wasn't normal and you know who would come up with that or why would anyone do that except for that those are memories that I had that you know so I don't I mean I
I haven't even shared a lot of this with my parents, but I will say, like, this last year, since all this has come up with the domes, it kind of just, like, really blew open a lot of the memories.
And when I talked to...
I went and talked to my mom.
I sat down and I said, Mom, you know, what about being underground?
And then she looks at me and she's like, You're talking about Montauk, aren't you?
Because I needed to know if she knew anything.
And I was like, so you know?
And she was like, I know that it's underground.
I knew that it was underground.
So she didn't seem to know about me being a part of any of that, but she did verify to me that this base was underground, and I had no physical knowledge of that.
I had not studied any of that.
I didn't know anything about that in the natural, except for what I had seen in pictures.
And the whole thing isn't dark.
And, you know, there's big technical areas, too, that were, like, super high-tech and everything, but...
But yeah, and then someone sent me a video of you interviewing some guys.
Actually, James Rink was interviewing.
I know him now.
You mean Michael Prince and Max Spears?
Yeah.
So that was just the guy that I told you about that had recognized me and remembered me.
And he had probably known since the 90s that we were both part of Montauk and that he was part of the chair too, but he never said anything.
And I think he probably just thought, well, she doesn't remember.
I'm not going to bring it up.
Let's not break this out.
But it wasn't until in 2015-16 where he was like, he could tell that I knew.
And that's when he said, do you remember the chair?
Well, he sends me this video of you guys.
And straight away...
I saw...
Max.
And heard his voice.
And I was like...
I know him.
I know he was one of my best friends.
And I was just completely undone.
It was like...
The code...
Even that you carry...
Because you've been around all these people...
Even when I talk to you or anything...
It just more expands and more unlocks.
It's the only way I can say it.
Reading your book has been very emotional for me because of the code that you carry and as you write, I can just feel myself expanding because some of these things are turning on that have been dormant and may just be quiet and shut up and not awake to.
But I saw Max and I was instantly just...
Happy as far as like, oh my god, there he is.
My best friend.
Remembering that I had a best friend.
You know, remembering the connection and just like thinking I have to find him.
I cannot wait to be able to be in his presence and talk and like maybe he can help me remember.
And then so I Google.
I mean just straight away I'm Googling and then I found out that he had passed.
And I literally...
I wasn't sure if I was going to make it for about three days.
And I called my friend.
It was just a mixture of all the information, but also finding him and losing him all at once in 15-20 minutes.
Um...
I just a deep, deep, deep, sad, sadness.
Right.
I mean, I think, you know, that's interesting because, you know, certain people out there do trigger that in a group of people.
And there are you're not the only one I've heard things about Max Spears like that.
But it you know, yours is a little unique in the sense that he had already passed on most of the people that kind of felt the connection, I guess.
Found out about him when he was still alive and we're trying to contact him and, you know, things like that.
So, you know, it's really wonderful that you have the recall and that you got all that.
So, in a sense, it's still, I don't know if you know who Bariska is.
Bariska is one of those people.
So, Bariska is a child from, you know, he was called the boy from Mars and he Had total recall of his prior life in Mars.
And as a young boy used to go around in his Russian, he's Russian.
And he's not accessible because I think the Russian government has taken him, you know, under wing and offline, so to speak.
But he would be like grown up in his 20s now.
But when I interviewed him, he was like, I think, 13 or something.
And he was just starting to sort of lose some of his memories.
But as a young child, you know, he became famous and under notice of the government and so on and so forth.
So you should watch that interview sometime and see your reaction.
But I have been written to by so many people, especially young people, saying that they know him, that they have to reach him.
It's so important, all this kind of thing.
And unfortunately, we can't, so far, we, you know, I can't get back in touch with him.
So, it's just, there are certain people that are kind of like, that kind of thing for certain groups.
And I imagine Max Spears is one of those people for certain groups.
So, understand.
So, okay, so...
Let me say one more thing, too, is I... When I saw him, the first thing that came...
I was hearing canine, wolf star, north star, seriously.
This repetition of wording that was unfamiliar to me that I didn't really know.
Now, I have a tattoo of...
My first tattoo was a north star on my shoulder.
And wolf is like a big thing for me.
But that canine...
Wolf, you know, the whole thing, that series of things.
And when I heard serious, I actually thought serious, like, this is important serious, not serious anything else.
And it wasn't until a few days later, I had met up with Dr.
Brooks Agnew and told him what was going on because he's a friend and I was just like I don't lose I feel like I'm losing my mind like I was just so I felt like just completely not sure if I was gonna be able to stay around and um he was like well I know James Rink he lives up the street let me connect you and so I google him found out that's the guy who did your um Your video or who recorded it for you that day and he had a book called The Lone Wolf.
So I call him and I'm like cleaning out and I can see some of the images I had is like me and all black like soldier type black not like you know going out to eat black you know it's like you know very military looking all black combat boots the whole thing and Groups of five.
And so anyway, I talked to James on the phone and I was like, I heard that he had this book called The Lone Wolf.
I said, what is up with the wolf?
Like, what's the wolf thing?
And he was like, well, they would tell you not to leave the wolf pack and that we were like the lone wolves, but not to be a lone wolf and that we were in packs.
And I had that verified through several people about soldiers that it would be like three or four guys to a girl.
And as we're cleaning, like I'm cleaning my room because I'm going through closets and stuff because I'm trying to stay sane while I'm trying to do normal things at the same time.
And I find this box that I had bought some things in Montana.
When I open it up, it was a wind chime.
And I pull it up and it's five wolves.
Like, the heads of a wolf, like, all in this wind chime that had been in a box for, like, three years that I bought at something, you know, years ago.
And then I have artwork that reflects, like, children's eyes with wolf and 333 and stars and planets and specifics about Jupiter and the LOC and things like that.
It's just, like, I did that in my 20s without any, like...
Opening up of those connections to my knowledge, but now as things are open up, I'm looking at some of my, even my poetry about time, you know, 10, 12 years old and writing about time and writing about time travel and writing about, you know, there's just a lot of things that it was just like, oh my gosh, these things are just coming together, you know, a little bit more.
You're also an artist.
I think you were just sending me some pictures, right?
So you also do art?
I don't claim to be an artist at all.
I would say that was a way for me to just get out.
I wrote music for years, and some of it was on the radio.
This is before people did radio books.
Now everyone can publish anything and just put it out.
But I did...
You know, some of that just, I guess, even for therapy or just to kind of just...
I don't know.
It was just things inside of me that I would put out.
And now I look back.
I mean, there was one thing about Jupiter that was pretty specific stuff.
And I painted this Jupiter thing and this poem about Jupiter.
And I didn't even talk like that.
I don't know where that came from.
And now I look back and read it.
And it's just like, wow.
Like, now I get it.
But, you know...
Okay, now I do have...
Is it okay if I show one of your pictures?
Because it kind of relates to what you're saying right now.
I think this will work.
So just, you know, stand by while I do this.
But hopefully this will work.
And it should be on the screen shortly.
It takes kind of a slight delay, I believe.
So just wait one second.
I see it.
You see it.
Okay.
I'm hoping...
I'm waiting for it to show up on the screen.
Okay, there it is.
So this particular one has a wolf in it.
And it's funny because I don't know if you've seen my dog, but she looks like a wolf.
She's, you know, she's right here with me.
But so it's really funny that, you know, all that.
But anyway, so...
Because I definitely have a thing about the, you know, wolves as well.
So it's interesting how certain people connect and then have real similarities in their background.
So anyway, as far as...
Now, I'd like to make a transition into your work because how did you get into...
First of all, I guess you got into a very religious thing at some point when you were young.
And then you got out of that.
And then you got into becoming a naturopath.
So can you explain that trajectory and kind of why you think you did all that?
It doesn't sound as though your parents were super religious, but where did that come from?
Yeah, I don't.
I mean, I mostly lived in Europe and the northern states.
New York, Michigan, Washington State, and Montana mostly.
And so I moved to the South at 13 the first time.
And down here, you're in the Bible Belt, which is honestly choking everybody.
But if you didn't have a...
If you didn't go to church, you didn't have a friend.
And I got caught up.
I was given a Bible.
I was asked if I was saved.
I didn't even understand the terminology.
And it makes no sense to me now, thinking about it.
But it served its purpose.
It kept me...
For sure, I mean, I have lots of great admiration for that part of my journey.
It got me here.
It kept me safe and alive without doing a lot of stupid things that I could have done.
And, you know, but, and so I ended up being in full-time ministry, mostly because I would have all these precog-type things, and I would tell people about it, and they were like, oh, you're prophetic, and they said, kind of put me in a place of, you know, Having me do that through my work in ministry is like going and teaching on how to hear God and how to hear Source, how to connect with understanding your dreams and visions.
So I did that for years.
It's just teaching on dreams, visions, connecting with Source.
I ended up getting really sick, mostly because of my diet and my just not living true.
And, of course, in the meantime, I'm having, like, encounters with beings coming to my house on a regular and or being taken.
And this whole time, because of my programming, I'm thinking these are, you know, angels, which they are.
The word angel just means messenger.
But I didn't have a full understanding of the entirety of, you know, all of that, nor the memories.
So...
You know, and they would give me information.
And I didn't understand that I was really just time traveling and getting this information and coming back and able to get the information.
And we all do some level of that when we sleep, you know, going off forever and, you know, if you're tuned in.
But I didn't understand the science of it.
I wasn't really seeing it in the entirety.
And honestly, I probably still am not.
Like, I'm not all there.
I'm not going to say I made it and I know everything because just when I think I know something, I realize I know absolutely nothing.
But one thing I can tell you is on 30 different medications, Because I was feeling like absolute shit.
Like I had gained a bunch of weight.
I was very...
They gave me all kinds of stuff.
Chronic fatigue, fibro, blah, blah, blah, blah, all the things.
I was on a plane Thursday to Sunday almost every single week.
So usually actually three to six planes a week traveling for these conferences that I was teaching in all these countries and here in the States.
And that's a lot of wear and tear on your body.
And at the time...
Not a lot of healthy food choices at airports.
It was a lot of grab this at the gas station, grab this at the airport.
Back then, it was Doritos, Rice Krispies, soda, whatever.
They didn't have good, healthy choices.
They're super better now, years later.
I was going through my thing.
I'd also had seven miscarriages, which is another topic that I think has something to do with something else now.
You know, I was trying to find out why I was feeling so terrible.
And, you know, they kept giving me drugs that have more side effects to give me more drugs to give me more side effects.
I was over it.
I was like, this isn't working.
I had zero hope.
And then I found a doctor at one of the meetings that I was teaching.
I was teaching a seminar on dreams and visions.
And this guy, this couple told me about a guy who was really into like energy and And, like, rifle machines and all of these contraptions they had from, like, Russia and China and Germany and how he's kind of like an Einstein kind of inventor, you know, whatever, whatever, and he's not the normal MD, you know, and I was just like, really not...
Thinking anyone could help me, but also like you could have told me eat ketchup and you'll be better and I would have done anything.
You know what I mean?
It's like, so I go see this guy and he started talking to me about, he put me on all these machines.
He taught me about muscle testing, about the body, integrative medicine.
He taught a lot about the importance of real essential oils and aromatherapy.
It kind of led me to a path of nutrition supplements and all that, which I had an undergraduate in, and I was actually working on my master's for For ministry and divinity, but pulled out because I was just like over the programs.
And so I felt to go back to school to actually learn about some of this just for myself, not to open up a clinic and be a doctor, but just to understand me better and to heal myself.
And within 16 weeks, I found myself all on my meds.
I was, you know, doing liver cleanses and Doing green juice and using a whole lot of essential oils and supplements and things and just making better choices and lost about 80 pounds really quickly.
Wasn't feeling any symptoms anymore.
Wasn't having the migraines and all the achy stuff and so I did go back to school.
I remember being on a plane.
I was about to go somewhere and I kept hearing like go back to school get your doctorate and here I was like 30 something.
I'm thinking this is not the time I got kids and I'm going to just like go back to school and get a doctorate.
Like how am I going to work?
And you know, but I just was so deep inside of me to do this.
And I was in the plane.
And I look out the window, I'm thinking to myself, God, do you really want me to go back to school to be a doctor, to be an MD, specifically a natural doctor?
And I look out the window and they have these like cone things that give traffic direction to the people and some of them are like, A, B, that-a-way, and 1, 2, 3, that-a-way, or whatever.
And it said, M, D, that way, in the direction I was going.
And I was like, you are kidding me.
So synchronicities and signs are a big, big thing.
I get them all the time.
That's one of my languages.
And so I did.
I went back to school for me, and then it turned out, you know, people were coming...
Wanting to know, like, whatever you focus on, you make room for, right?
And so all these people just out of nowhere, what about this?
What about this?
Can you help me?
And so started teaching at conferences and wellness venues and wellness conferences and, like, technical places.
And eventually I did open a clinic.
had flooded like two months later we had a huge flood down here and I got 12 feet of water in my clinic so I was like okay god you know I guess I'm going to go back to teaching so I do a lot of phone consultations and I do you know classes and teaching the social media write books do everything I can to get the word out and teach it But I'd rather, I'm like you, you know, you're for the masses.
I'd rather teach like thousands of people a bunch of things than sit and say the same thing over and over again.
But I use biofeedback and then I use my intuition.
And part of what I did as a super soldier had to do with, I was a doctor, super soldier.
So I do energy stuff.
Through the phone and people are like really having some great things.
I'm able to, I've taught and learned a lot of remote healing and that kind of thing too.
And just being able to see where people are.
And it surprised me at first.
I'm like, really, I could do this long distance?
And it was working.
So I just kept doing it, you know?
That's great.
Well, I think that, you know, that will be of interest to my audience.
And you may, you know, I think we have your website, obviously.
So it's called swiftfire.org.
Is that the right name?
And I have it linked on my page on my website where this is broadcasting out of.
But it's also, do you have like a contact form or something where people can contact you if they want to?
Yeah, I'm on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook.
My Swiftfire.org, you can get my resources too.
My latest book is The Science of Miracles.
This talks a lot about Self-healing from the cells on out to affect the biofield to not only get better results with dis-ease versus ease, but also how to change negative patterns because everything that you are, you have a signature code on your DNA and that DNA goes out in your biofield, the biofield duals.
Two things, radiates out, but also magnetizes back in.
So everything you think about, talk about, feel, and then your electric signature DNA that's specific to you and your genes, that is a code that's going out.
And so a lot of the things that I know that I learned being in these my lab things, I put in here and also I literally had a crystal put it on me And downloaded this book in 12 hours.
I just was like, okay, you know what?
I go into frequency hopping, which is a whole different...
There's a lot of tools in there to help people identify where they're at and fix where they're at so they're not having the same stupid responses, whether it's real physical dis-ease and or patterns in your life, whether it's finances or partnership or...
Maybe you've been trying to buy a house or something and then at the last minute it doesn't go through for the fifth time.
When you're starting to see those things that are over and over again, that's a code issue.
So if we can change the code, then you can get the outcome that you're actually choosing to get instead of just not even realizing that you're the source of it.
We can shift that.
So it goes into that.
Great.
Wonderful to hear.
So just, I know that we have sort of a time limit today, so don't want to go too long, because I know you have a commitment, prior commitment, but...
We're going to talk again tomorrow, although supposedly you're going to be talking to me, but it could just be a back-and-forth conversation.
But what I want to say is, it sounds like you've had some interactions with off-planet races, maybe inter-Earth races.
So it would be interesting for people to hear maybe a couple anecdotes, anything That stands out?
Any kind of remarkable experiences with other beings that you want to talk about?
Yeah, I mean, the one that changed my entire life, including my vocation, was I woke up, walked into my living room.
I had very large ceilings in my living room.
And when I walked in, there were two beams in there that were as tall, almost as tall as the entire living room.
They were very iridescent.
Like they were kind of phase in, phase out.
And the colors were like light pastel-y Easter color lights flashing.
But like I couldn't grab them or anything, but they were just light beams.
They were literally light.
Oh my gosh, I'm going to cry again.
It's very emotional.
They did something to recode me, but there were ancient books piled all in the living room, just wall to wall, everywhere.
These were not my books.
Maybe they are, in a sense.
I sleep with books.
I'm reading six books all the time.
And then I go to the next, I'm constantly reading.
I'm a very, very fast reader.
I've taken a lot of information.
Although your book, I've had to take, this is only as far as I am right now.
And this has been a week for me.
And I can only do like this much and then I cry some more.
It's like healing me, healing.
It's healing me.
But I'm just saying there's something that's like literally changing me.
But these beings, there was a desk, like an ancient desk, and these old, old-looking books.
Now, not dusty, because it's not like old as in disgusting dust, but you could tell they looked ancient, and almost like light words coming off of them.
One of them cracked it open, and I came around to see what's this book about.
And the books were just records of all these people, names, names, names, names, names, who had an issue with physical things and disease, and then they were healed by specifically essential oils or other...
There's a lot of essential oils, but nature, code, there's things...
That they were naturally healed of.
And then the dates that they were healed.
And then it was just record after record after record.
And I was overwhelmed.
I mean, I still get very emotional.
And one of them looks at me.
And again, everything is thought, no words.
And one says, what do you want?
And I remember thinking, I want to be a part of that.
And they slammed the book.
And they got really serious.
And one of them, who I refer to as True, I don't know her real name.
I just named her that because everything in her was so true.
She was just the epitome of truth.
And she looked at me really serious and she pointed and she said, tell them they're not truly living unless they're living True.
And when she said that, everything in me felt like I was going to burst into Nothing.
Like, I still get emotional even saying anything about her.
And she's come to me several times since.
But that thing...
And then they poofed.
They were gone.
And within, like, two or three days, I had...
I was listening to this CD called The Missing Link.
It's about DNA and epigenetics.
And, you know...
And I get a call from this lady.
I haven't heard from six years.
And she's like...
I feel like I'm supposed to tell you that the missing link is here, that this is a part of your path.
It doesn't look like anything you thought you were going to do, but this is important.
Go ahead and take those steps.
And this is when I was thinking about going back to school, and I just kept getting sign after sign after sign after sign.
And then I get a...
A call from my grandmother and they had struck oil.
You know, I knew it was something to do with oil.
And so it was just all these things with oils, essential oils, crystals, which, you know, went against my religion, honestly.
So again, that was a big step for me to move away from these cultural programs and just be like, you know what, nature, grass, dirt, earthing, crystals.
Crystals are amazing.
You can program them to do everything.
It can be your friends.
So that was...
That's one of my bigger ones.
Now, I think my message, I know my message changed from that moment on, on a cellular level, to living true in everything that I do.
I knew that she wasn't saying, live true, like, does my hair look okay?
Be honest.
It wasn't like, do I need to lose weight?
Not white lie, true kind of deal.
But I knew truth was It was an authenticity.
It was who you're with, what you're doing, who you're hanging out with, what you eat, what you drink, whatever you do.
Do you go to the gas station right now or in 20 minutes?
Very down to each and every second that you have.
We all have the same 24 hours a day, but living true to the nth degree of what you're thinking about, what you're feeling, what you're putting your energy to.
Do you drink enough water?
Are you exercising?
How are you raising your children?
What are you watching on TV? Or do you even watch TV? What kind of music are you listening to?
Are you having fun?
Are you playing?
Sometimes we just need to play for no reason because there's an energy to that.
And when we're not in our truth, It actually, there's a dissonance in our body that causes dis-ease.
When we're in our truth, it doesn't matter what you're doing, but when you are in truth and you stay and you make the decisions day after day, time after time to live true, then you will stay above the snake line.
You will stay You will keep your vibration and everyone will have to submit to that.
You will actually ignite others to truth by the very authenticity of your truth vibration.
Of you being truth actually gives the courage for other people to also be true.
And we can do this on a collective with every post on Facebook, with every video, with every interaction that you have with someone at the store or the gas station or the post office.
Of just smiling at people and loving people all the way into their selves.
And for me, it's just been a big shift of teaching people how to remember.
That's why the book is called The Science of Miracles, Remembering the Frequency of Love, because the frequency that we have is true, but to remember and remind Remember meaning one body, but also this body, all of us as a collective, to remember with source, remind, and to stay in love.
Remember that there's no separation, that we are one collective group.
And we can change the world, literally, whether it's politics or anything that you're seeing on the planet.
We can shift all this.
And we don't even need the majority.
We just need enough to make a tipping point of everyone doing the little minute version of yourself.
You know, Trump's doing whatever he's doing.
And we thought, oh my God, we can never do that.
It doesn't matter.
Do what you're supposed to do and your truth and your version, whether it's to take courage to say no or to not do that thing or not go that place or to go this place and keep doing that.
And you will build a collective with the whole place and we shift things.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Very well said.
And thank you for all of that.
So at this time, you know, I'm not going to have this go on much longer per our agreement, but I wanted you to have enough time to say whatever it is you want to say.
And we can, well, you'll be back tomorrow anyway, but we could, you know, if there's things that you forgot or you wanted to add in tomorrow, we can put those in.
But, you know, is there anything specific about what's, let's talk about what's happening now, because you're a precog, so you see things in the future.
And so anything you want to talk about, maybe, I know we don't have tons of time, but you could revisit it tomorrow if you want, but if you wanted to bring anything forward before I let you go today.
Yes, great question.
I started getting stuff from True in 2007 about Trump.
Politics was not even anywhere in anything I thought about.
I was in my 20s.
I didn't even know the difference between Republican and Democrat.
I had no shits about it, to be honest.
I knew he was a guy on TV. I know he made a lot of money.
But I was told that he had a Cyrus anointing.
I had no idea what that meant.
I had to Google it.
It came up with a chapter in the Bible, in Isaiah, that talked about a king, Cyrus, who basically worked for no money and freed captives and got the whole world to work together.
And people, the kings that were Doing off, you know, things they shouldn't be doing basically came to him and recognized his authority and subjected to him.
And there's a lot more that he was called and chosen and anointed.
So I was just like, okay, and look, you have to understand anytime we get anything from true, this is like something that you can bank on.
And I had to pay attention.
And I did pay attention.
And so I actually blogged about it, talked about it.
Back then, several times there's been other things where actually Donald Trump came in a dream.
Right before his election, he came and basically walked me to a place in my house he had in my hand.
He's a ginormous man.
And he looked up, threw his hands in the air, and with almost tears in his eyes, was saying, help me make America great again.
Help me make, not to me, but just like to something in the air.
He was just yelling it.
And I remember feeling very small next to him, looking up at him, going, no one would believe this.
Like, just thinking how passionate he was, like how really serious he was.
And like, I was just thinking...
I could tell everyone and no one will even think he's for real.
You know, I just was thinking this is amazing.
And I woke up very emotional.
I've had several more with Ivanka now.
I know that he carries code.
That shifts where we're at right now.
He's a key.
Literally, he's a ginormous, active key that, to some people, completely messes with all their programming.
And so, you know, some people short circuit because they're just like, they don't know what to do with that.
I actually went to Washington, D.C. on purpose.
I shared some of this with you off camera because I knew, I know about the biofield.
I know about code.
And I knew if I was And anything having to do with his arena of biofield, that that would help turn some things on for me to even understand more.
I went to Trump Tower.
I went and stayed at his hotel.
Like anything I could do to just connect with the code.
And then actually, because I was blogging about some of these things, someone had contacted me and asked if I would come to Florida to meet with him and discuss some of these things that I was getting, which I thought was just crazy.
I mean...
how anyone even saw it or why anyone would want me to do that but I was actually in New Zealand at the time and it was a thing that was happening already to get there from New Zealand.
I was already committed and in my mind I was like What about next week?
Or the week after that?
There was a group of people that were all meeting together for this thing.
I believe it was September right before the election.
I didn't get to go.
I always thought that I would.
They asked me, can you please just write everything down and send it to To these people.
So I did.
And they said they promised they would handle Liberate.
Now, whether he got it, I don't know.
I was told...
But this was, just to clarify, this was a religious group that was going to meet with or trying to meet with Trump.
Is that correct?
Yes, and they did.
They did meet, including when a couple of my friends were there.
I say friends.
I'm very specific with my words.
I wouldn't say they're friends.
I would say people that I knew that were colleagues that I've worked with before.
We're there.
And several kind of like celebrity type ministry people, you know, that's probably not a good way to explain it, but more what recognized and in the public type ministry people were there praying for him and just giving him, which I love prayer.
Prayer is the best.
It's like he needs all the prayer for sure with what, I mean, he's had several assassination attempts and different things that have happened and we need to keep him.
We need him.
Like, this is important.
Very important.
He is tremendously important for what we're doing.
And I mean, I get people who are just like, I can't believe and la la la.
And I don't care.
Like, I don't care.
Like, I'm public.
I don't care.
I'm not going to back down.
I don't care what anyone thinks.
You don't have to like me.
The truth is still the truth.
And this is a very important season.
We're in a timeline war.
If, you know, I personally believe that Barron's been back and forth, probably Trump's been back and forth for a long, long time.
You know, he's understanding things with Tesla.
He wants to declassify things with Tesla.
He wants free energy.
He wants med beds.
He wants some things that he has had to slowly try to do what he could do.
Even in the face of Congress and all things and just the onslaught of programming and brainwashing that goes on with the CNN CIA mockingbird bullcrap and just the vibration energy the psychic attack alone I don't know how I mean he's got like he's steel like this man I mean he's not but he's got he's not normal he's just not and you know it doesn't take away the humanity of who he is or Melania or his family And
so it is important that we keep him in light and prayer.
But also he was perfectly hand chosen for this season and time.
And God bless America.
God bless the world.
And I swear to God, these people will have their day some way, freaking time.
You cannot keep doing this over and over and over, not just with the children, but with the lying, the crimes.
I mean, I just watched two debates that were absolutely infuriating to me, the lying.
Oh my God, don't leave it.
And it's just like, there has to be an end where This comes back.
It will come back.
And they won't even know what happened, but it will come back.
And we have got to just keep on focusing on the light and the love and what's right.
And I have to watch myself Not being baited into anger or judgment.
Sure.
Because it pisses me off so bad.
And my husband was yelling at the TV last night.
I was like, baby.
But I have to keep that whole prayer and all these other people that I know you've interviewed.
Have a different thing that, you know, everything's in the bag and all this stuff.
And that would be super great if JFK is coming back and all the sorrow happens.
And, you know, if it does, great.
And if it doesn't, great.
You know, I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket.
You know, all I know is to do what I know to do in my version every single day and keep on sharing truth.
I think God has to be in action.
And I don't like when there's so much like, oh, it's all done, then everyone could just sit back and do nothing.
No, God is an action.
There's an action to God.
And there's choices to be made.
And we get to make those choices.
So, just me.
Lovely.
Okay.
Very, very well said.
Okay, Charnelle, it's, you know, wonderful to connect with you, have you here, and be able to do this with you, you know, after you've interviewed me, now to get to know you more and better, and also have you come out to the audience more.
So we'll meet again tomorrow at 1 p.m.
It'll be 1 p.m.
Pacific time tomorrow, if that's okay.
And...
And we'll continue this.
So thank you so much for coming on the show today and for speaking your truth and the words and words of truth.
And, you know, I'm not one of those all truthers, a relative kind of people.
I think there's, you know, there's real truth.
So thank you again for being here and sharing the truth.
So, it was really wonderful.
And it's wonderful that you're so open and you're so willing to share, you know, your emotional life with everyone.
I think that's a gift.
And, you know, so that's, please continue to be who you are.
All right.
So, take care, everyone.
And we'll be back.
Awesome.
Bless you so much.
Thank you.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Okay.
So I think I'm, I'm, this is, I'm kind of new to doing things on zoom right now.
So thank you for watching.
I hope that all of this worked.
And please take care and we'll be back.
And I did sort of write something on my website.
So if you will go to my website and you'll see my article about My YouTube channel and how threatened it is at this time.
And it's just like this video, I have no idea if they're going to target it or not.
But right now I'm using my very small YouTube.
It's my alternate because I'm banned from my main one for another day or two.
And then I'll be back on there if I want to, but I don't know if they'll give me a strike and then they'll take down my whole channel.
So we're really at a very important juncture right now with regard to YouTube.
I'm asking for people to help.
And if you are one of those people that's targeted on YouTube, if you know any lawyers that might want to take on this class action suit, please read my article and contact me on my email address.
All right.
Thank you, everyone, and take care.
Bye-bye.
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