Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool

All Episodes

Previous Next

Aug. 27, 2020 - Project Camelot

02:15:18

DR. JUDY MIKOVITS AND DR. ROBERT YOUNG: COVID, VACCINES AND VIRUSES

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Time	Text
	. . .
	. . . . . . .
	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight.
	We have two excellent guests.
	One is Dr.
	Judy Mikovits and the other is Dr.
	Robert O. Young.
	I think I'm saying her name right this time around.
	I've had both of them on my show before.
	If we do talk about some things and you want to know more, you can certainly listen to the other interviews I've done with them.
	Judy has a new movie out that She is talked about at any rate and participated in called Plandemic Indoctrination that I want to highly recommend.
	And before that was Plandemic and she was obviously the sort of star of that front and center.
	So I want to welcome both of my guests onto the show today and hello both of you.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Okay, so now I'm just going to read a very brief sort of intro for the two of you and we'll kind of Launched from there and I just want to say that bear with us in terms of the sound and please do give me feedback if we do have any sound issues.
	Hopefully we won't and we'll just be able to go on from here.
	So this is sort of a rare treat to have both of you guys here with me on the show and And hopefully this will all work out.
	So basically, we're going to be talking about COVID, vaccines and viruses.
	And I want to first touch on the President Trump announcement regarding plasma treatment and also the latest CDC announcement saying that asymptomatic people do not need to be tested.
	And so I think those are hot topics.
	And so I'm going to be very interested to see what both of you have to say.
	But right before you do that, I would like you to introduce yourself.
	So let's start off with Judy, ladies first in this case.
	I hope you don't mind, Robert.
	And Judy, if you can introduce yourself rather than have me do it, give yourself, you know, a brief intro, however you would like to do that.
	Okay, well, I'm Judy A. Mikevitz.
	I have a PhD in biochemistry and molecular biology, which I earned in 1991.
	And my PhD thesis was about HIV latency.
	Thank you.
	HIV and never get AIDS, if you understood at the molecular biology and biochemistry level how to keep the virus from damaging the immune system, how to keep the virus silent.
	So that PhD thesis ended up being about four publications over the course between 1988 and probably 1994 because several of the publications were so paradigm shifting that of course the scientific, the peer reviewers, one of the peer reviews we got the guy said, I didn't believe your last paper either.
	So, you know, peer review is when you're changing paradigms is Anything but.
	And so, at any rate, those four papers changed epigenetics, drug development, where part of that work was peptide T that my friend and late colleague, Dr.
	Candice Perd, had developed while I was working as a technician.
	And peptide T, we knew, blocked the interaction between the macrophage and the T cell.
	Such as not to cause the immune activation, not to turn on the inflammatory event.
	Another one of those papers was that nuclear factor Kappa B, known as NF-Kappa B, a transcription factor, which turns on a pro-inflammatory cytokine signature.
	Well, that protein, that nuclear factor was known to be a nuclear factor, but it was held in the cytoplasm.
	And phosphorylation from inhibitor Kappa B changed it to go to the nucleus.
	Of course, I was crazy, too.
	And they told me I isolated nuclei for that work and showed, in fact, that NF-Kappa B was responsible for driving AIDS in an HIV-infected individual, even if the cell wasn't necessarily infected.
	And they said, oh, you're an idiot because NF-Kappa B is a cytoplasmic protein and And therefore, your nuclei must be contaminated.
	Just like they told me, you're an idiot.
	Macrophages don't get infected with HIV because the receptor CD4 is on T cells and not on macrophages.
	So at any rate, over the course of the last 40 years, I've been called an idiot, probably more often.
	That most people have, but we're fine because we've understood the molecular mechanisms and how to prevent infections from causing disease.
	And this is why it's important in SARS-CoV-2 that it is absolutely not the causative agent of disease.
	COVID-19 and why you should never test a symptomatic person because they're by definition healthy.
	And this weighs directly on that because the inflammatory signature of COVID-19 is overlapping with everything we've known from other RNA viruses.
	Like the retroviruses, HIV and XMRVs, the third family of disease-causing retroviruses, which we isolated from people with cancer and neuroimmune disease, published in 2009.
	And that's the work which landed me in jail.
	So that's probably enough for this conversation.
	Thank you very much.
	And I think that's quite a bit to take on board.
	And obviously, you're being interviewed all over the place, so there's plenty of information out there.
	And I do want to draw people's attention to my website, where you're probably watching this show, which is projectcamelot.tv.
	And on that website, I've got lots of links and lots of bio information for both of you.
	So not to worry on that score.
	So at the moment, let's go to Dr.
	Young.
	And Dr.
	Young, if you can talk a little bit about yourself as well.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you, Carrie.
	And thank you, Judy, for sharing your journey of a hero.
	Because it always intermittently includes having to go to jail.
	But the good news is you're alive.
	Because there are many of our colleagues who are no longer alive that sacrificed because they decided to think outside the box or to make their box bigger to include other things, not for profit, but for treatments that would save lives, change lives and save lives.
	So, you know, you're one of those rare souls that has increased the size of your box.
	I had the opportunity to study with Dr.
	Marie Blecker in Essen, Germany at the Enderlin Institute where I learned homeopathy.
	And Dr.
	Blecker, she was the one that taught me microscopy.
	She was the one that taught me live and dry blood cell analysis.
	She was one that taught me the doctrine of pleomorphism.
	Which pleo means many, morphism means form, or many formism, is that germs are born in us and from us, and that they're evolutionary stages of cellular breakdown.
	And, you know, I witnessed that pleomorphic activity again.
	Specifically in 1994 in a type 1 diabetic where I actually watched a red blood cell give birth to an anthrax bacteria.
	Literally evolve out.
	I showed that to a hematologist at the University of Vienna and he said, in the 20 years I've been teaching hematology, I have never seen pleomorphism, let alone a bacterial rod, be born right out of a red blood cell.
	So that's where I get some of these ideas, which are not necessarily unique to me, but have actually structured a lot of the direction that I've gone.
	So my doctorate of science is in biochemistry, but prior to that, I received a master's in colloidal chemistry.
	I'm probably one of those unique individuals that actually really enjoy studying things that are really, really tiny, such as micro and nanoparticulates and how they can sustain themselves in a heterogeneous solution.
	I've used that chemistry to create a whole array of different compounds that work at The plasmic level, that work at the anatomical level, because you're dealing with nanoparticles, we're dealing with electrons, because folks, we're electrical beings, you know, having a physical experience.
	We're not physical beings, and that's why I've kind of moved away necessarily from the biologicals to those elements that really make up that physicality, which is a combination of Of the anatomical elements that are referred to the microzymas and the colloidal elements of life that make up our physicality.
	So that's my master's in science, my doctorate in science studying biochemistry and my dissertation on pathological blood coagulation.
	And I eventually published that paper.
	Eventually, because it took me years to get anybody to accept it to be published, because it was so far out, you know, in left field.
	But I studied the actual cascade of pathological blood coagulation, and I really didn't realize how important that was to me in 1996, when I received that degree, that some 24 years later, that I would actually come back to that, you know, and help to support the very thing that's going on with COVID, which is pathological blood coagulation and the activation of what is called factor seven,
	which is one of the factors that create fibrin monomers, which is one of the factors that create fibrin monomers, that create cross-linking, that causes cells to get all clotted together, that are found in all autopsies of those who have died from the so-called COVID infection that are found in
	And so when you're finding coagulation or clots in the lung, in the brain, in the heart, in the liver, in the pancreas, and all these different organs, you're saying something is different here that doesn't act like a normal you're saying something is different here that doesn't act like a One of the things I did was I made an association with Dr.
	Peter Duisburg up at the University of California at Berkeley.
	And from his influence, I published three more papers.
	In fact, they were published in the International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccinations.
	The papers are called Second Thoughts About Viruses, Vaccines.
	And it's really interesting, Judy, that we're together like this because it was Second Thoughts About Viruses, Vaccines, and the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis.
	Well, you know, why did I end up with Dr.
	Peter Duisburg, who actually got kicked from the top floor to the bottom floor, lost all his funding, because he came to the conclusion after his research and then publishing a book called Inventing the AIDS Virus, and in that book there's chapters on inventing the Ebola virus, inventing the SARS virus, and he goes on and on, that he was looking at chemical contributing factors that led to To these symptomologies.
	So I wrote three papers on that that were eventually published, and I was grateful for that.
	The other thing, because I guess I was getting bored, I ended up with a PhD in human nutrition.
	I wrote a book called Herbal Nutritional Medications in the Treatment of Diseases.
	I listed everything from all my knowledge from homeopathy to Chinese medicine to herbology to vitamin and mineral treatments to colloidal chemistry.
	Wow!
	This is really helpful information for me to create synergistic formulations that were unique in helping people Because they couldn't find this over the counter.
	They couldn't find it in a pharmaceutical.
	They couldn't find it in a nutraceutical.
	So having the nutrition part made me realize that when I took my studies of the blood and hematology, I started doing something really, really unique.
	I started to study medicine.
	The effects of eggs and donuts and bacon and cheese and the effects of those food on the most important organ of the human body, and that's the blood, and particularly the blood plasma.
	In fact, you might find this interesting.
	One of my studies is that I showed that the eggs would shut down the immune system for 72 hours by eating one egg.
	Okay, and it was probably one of the most toxic foods that you could put in your body, but it looked like a cytokine storm.
	I mean, it was like it activated the immune system.
	The immune system went after all of these nanoparticles and microparticles to try to clean up, no pun intended, the bloody mess.
	But it was created from eating just one egg.
	And then I ran across the work of Dr.
	Livingston Wheeler, who wrote...
	A book on this progenitor cryptoside, which he claimed to be the foundational intelligent I'm glad
	I had that because then I at least got a comparison between, you know, conventional medicine with naturopathy and I was able to work in those two fields and take the best of everything.
	I think the best thing that has happened for me in my 40-year career is that I've seen hundreds of thousands of patients And I've worked in endocrinology and diabetes, type 1 and type 2, in cancer.
	And I created, in fact, I was having so much success, and excuse me for doing this, but I have to show you because it's out of print.
	I actually wrote a book in the 80s called One Sickness, One Disease, and One Treatment.
	I mean, what a radical thought.
	You know, that everything else was a symptom of stages of this one sickness.
	And the one sickness was the over-acidification of the blood and then the interstitial fluids due to an inverted way of living, eating, drinking, breathing, thinking, feeling, and believing that when those are out of balance, this gives rise to symptomologies or gives rise to acidity.
	Which is that the disease is the acidity that builds up in the interstitial fluids that has now been quantified by Dr.
	Galena McGalco and myself as the source or the beginning or the essence of where all disease begins.
	And so with that, you know, comes a lot of other information, but I think that gives you a little idea of what I've been up to for the last four decades.
	Oh, by the way, I had the same similar experience as Judy, but it was a little different.
	You know, I was releasing my book on the PH miracle for cancer.
	I was working with the University of Southern California and their research department on the cure for cancer.
	And we had actually established that after two years of work that we established and documented the cure for cancer.
	And we presented that to the trustees.
	And it was turned down because of what that would mean to the current system.
	And within 30 days after that, I was arrested.
	Right.
	So, actually, that's exactly what I wanted to say, is that the both of you share that, the fact that you've been arrested.
	And...
	I think it's important that people understand that this is what we're faced with.
	And I know I was really happy, Judy, when the recent Plandemic movie came out and they basically answered the question, you know, were you ever charged and all of this kind of thing?
	Because I've had people who just, they couldn't get it through their heads, you know, what you said.
	That you were never charged and no matter what happens, they just got it wrong.
	And it's a hard fight that we've got out there because there's a lot of purposeful disinformation about wonderful, you know, investigative people like you who are breaking all kinds of barriers and breaking the rules.
	And the medical field has basically become I don't know how you'd characterize it, but I would say a Nazi kind of institution.
	It's institutionalized.
	It's been turned into something that we have to fight.
	To keep our rights, and it has never been more important than now.
	And the Plandemic Indoctrination movie, which I don't know, Robert, if you've had a chance to see it yet.
	It only came out a short time ago, but I highly recommend it.
	I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
	I can say that it is clarifying something of the build-up to how we got where we are today in terms of the sort of Secret machinations behind the scene and all the different foundations and the patents that were organized.
	In other words, there's a whole litany of steps.
	And I would imagine in your arrests, when they decided to arrest you, to target you, there would also be the same kind of path of evidence, so to speak, that they gathered in order to put you You know, behind bars, even temporarily, and do whatever damage that could do to your careers, and you're still fighting that battle today.
	So, just want to honor both of you in that regard.
	Now, what I would like to do is go to our questions, and if you want to address anything that either one said, feel free to do that too.
	But at this point, what we would do is go to Judy and ask Judy, to basically talk about how you see this, Judy, how you see this current situation,
	the last announcement by Trump again, and then also of the CDC. I see Trump's announcement of using convalescent sera as a treatment for COVID-19.
	I mean, this goes all the way back to, of course, you make antibodies, you plasma freeze, you do a doctor.
	This is old, old, old, simple medicine.
	So I'm delighted.
	You know, they call it something else, convalescent sera.
	And so what President Trump is doing is he's just taking back Sending medicine back to basic, simple principles of medicine.
	I know Robert knows much more as a hematologist, but my lifelong colleague, Dr.
	Rossetti, also a hematologist.
	It's really a very simple treatment.
	It's how the doctor in the 2014 Ebola outbreak, you know, the young doctor survived because he was given by the older doctor that was there in Sierra Leone, he was given hydroxychloroquine to stop any other infections.
	Malaria was endemic in the regions to keep the immune system strong, to calm, you know, infuse saline so that the young doctor could have his healthy immune system respond.
	He recovered from, you know, Ebola, deadly Ebola in 2014.
	And then, you know, they flew him to the CDC, where the CDC took credit for it and said there was this vaccine in San Diego.
	I mean, we were all there in 2014.
	And just stuff that, you know, Americans believe this.
	And I think this is what Mickey Willis is really the genius in that film, Plandemic.
	I literally saw it when you did and was just amazed when he brought in the PhD, Dr.
	David Martin, to just show how the publication so both...
	Robert and I talked about our papers don't get published.
	And so really what people don't appreciate is when you go against the grain, yeah, so you have to get a couple of published papers to get a PhD.
	And so, fortunately, my PhD rendered five or six papers, and you saw in the beginning, they'd talk about, oh, well, you weren't anything on that work.
	You were the 13th author out of the list of them, and people not understanding this.
	Really, everything about publications, peer review, our grant system, and how...
	You know, how careers are made and the system is totally corrupt.
	I mean, science, the journal, is more fake news than the National Enquirer.
	So they just get somebody to tell you, the public, what the data say.
	And if the scientist who wrote the paper did the research doesn't use statistics to cover up any inconvenient truths or things like that or play the game, they just simply destroy them.
	So, you know, Trump's interesting in that he's going around it with the convalescent sera.
	So in the second one, it's the CDC.
	OK, you know, asymptomatic people are healthy.
	You don't diagnose as Peter Duesbergen.
	And Carrie Mullis said, PCR is nothing.
	We have a virome that's 8% of our entire genome expressing in any given time pieces and parts of lots of viruses.
	Just as you said, the viruses are coming from within.
	And, you know, Dr.
	Andy Kaufman in several interviews is saying the same things.
	We know our colleague Bruce Lipton and exosomes and how Genetic material and signals are transferred among cells.
	Inflammasomes, they change the names and they do whatever they're going to call it.
	But at the end of the day, a piece of RNA is not a causative agent for disease.
	So, you know, I think we've, in shows like yours, Carrie, and over the last, with Plandemic, with Del Bigtree and All the great work he's been doing on The High Wire every Thursday.
	We're calling them out.
	We're showing how they manipulate the publications.
	We're showing how the press manipulates the interpretation of the publications.
	And people are waking up.
	And billions of people are saying, wait a minute, that movie opened with side by side something called Event 201.
	On the left hand side of the screen was this little run through, this little actors and actors playing doctors and public health officials.
	In November of 2019, and we were going to have this outbreak of this deadly coronavirus.
	And on the other side of the screen at the exact same time, you're watching what actually happened.
	So I was vindicated by Mickey's film brilliance to say, well, what's wrong with calling it a pandemic?
	And why would a plandemic?
	You know, because you planned it.
	He showed it right on the screen.
	Our book, Plague of Corruption, said exactly the same thing as we went through what happened with the XMRVs.
	You simply can't inject.
	You simply can't inject mouse, monkey, cow, bird, coronavirus, a dog, coronaviruses through influenza vaccines, through MMR, through polio for 40 years as these entire genomes are injected into people.
	You don't need infectious transmissible virus if you injected it.
	I've been calling it infection by injection.
	That's exactly what it is.
	The government denied that the flu vaccine drove the deaths of the Italians.
	Yet, when Mickey did the second part of the film, He never once, I mean, they didn't deny it.
	He interviewed 30 or 40 scientists and said, well, maybe Judy's a little absolute and I might not have said it that way.
	But yeah, she's not wrong.
	There's never been a vaccine for an RNA virus before.
	That worked because work is that it provides more immunity than damage.
	And of course, we know that's not true in every single vaccine of an RNA virus from polio through disease.
	We have flu vaccines and now coronavirus vaccine was being discussed at the ACIP, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, which is a military organization.
	That meeting happened today at the CDC. And they'll just rubber stamp it.
	They'll mandate it on all people.
	And they'll kill the most vulnerable, and the most vulnerable are those who you've injected the most garbage over the course of the last 40 years since all liability was removed in 1986 and really before when we were seeing all the damage.
	You just don't inject Mises pieces as...
	My friend Ernie Hancock says, mouse, cow, monkey parts.
	You just don't inject that into immune-compromised or a newborn who hasn't yet come to understand what is the difference between self and non-self from an immunological standpoint.
	Okay.
	You know, that's, you know, brilliant.
	And thank you for that.
	Now I'm going to ask you to sort of elaborate a little bit on why it is, okay, let's, we take on board the CDC announcement that, oh, suddenly they're changing their tune on asymptomatic people.
	But my problem that I have is you never see governments change their tactics.
	At this point, we have governments that are sticking with the party line that was set when they didn't know anything, really.
	Supposedly, back in February and March, and you've got them continuing with the, even the CDC came out, I think it was even Fauci at a certain point, but CDC coming out with, you know, the masks don't help, and they're not even good for you.
	There's even that, but they, you know, there's been no change, no change whatsoever.
	In fact, if anything, it's gotten worse.
	And I call them mass Nazis and so on.
	So how can you, how do you sort of balance those two things that what we've got is, we've got disclosure, we've got stuff, you know, coming out that's so not, you know, your two doctors, I can tell you, you know, I can think of,
	you know, a number of other doctors, very well respected doctors, ones that Unlike the two of you, haven't been pushing the envelope quite so hard and didn't end up in jail perhaps, but nonetheless are to be respected.
	And I'm saying, in other words, what do you do in the face of that?
	As a doctor, if you want to practice and you're clearly outlining the new way of approaching this and they're voting on it, Either the CDC is operating for the world, or it's not, and WHO is a whole other ballgame.
	But any thoughts on that?
	Sorry to go on.
	Judy?
	I'll just simply say it the way the movie ended.
	And the way the movie ended, and while we might have all hoped that brilliant Mickey Willis would have given us a to-do list of action items, next steps, but what he did was he left it with the individual.
	And I think a little Gandhi and other things there where, you know, it's up to us.
	We, this country and our healthcare, we are we the people.
	It's time we stop eating garbage food and GMOs and wearing the mask.
	And I've done it all along.
	It's civil disobedience.
	We go outside.
	I just got home before this show.
	And we went to the farmer's market.
	And the mass Nazis came up and said...
	And I have the little tag on my shirt that says I have a disability.
	That disability is...
	I'm a human being and not a plant.
	And I don't breathe carbon dioxide or take energy out of carbon dioxide.
	I need air and so I have other disabilities but hey it doesn't count in breathing air and wearing a mask but and so she'd just say oh no but you have to have it on and she'd hand me her mask and I'm saying no thank you very much you're okay fine you know we just we just keep walking and when everybody and we're a group of six women half of whom have cancer diagnoses and And obviously can't wear a mask among us as we're going through eating healthy food.
	And we just say, no, thank you.
	So when every single person on the planet says, I'm not wearing a mask.
	Oh, look, mommy, somebody's immune system's on the ground.
	You know, no.
	And so if we all stood up and said, no, there is no law.
	This is our God-given, you know, and they're waffling.
	We don't have to obey their laws.
	Our government, and this was my thought when I saw the movie.
	I used to say, I pray every single day I'd wake up and President Trump would have those people in shackles like we were.
	And then I realized, boy, after I saw the movie, I bet President Trump wakes up every single day and says, I wish we the people would stand up and throw the mask off and have a big mask-burning party, and we'll all have a party in jail, and at least it won't be solitary confinement like Robert and I experienced.
	But this is it.
	It's up to us.
	You know, it's up to us not to eat garbage food.
	It's up to us.
	We've written the books.
	We just published last week, The Case Against the Mask.
	It's not very thick at all.
	It takes about an hour to read.
	It's simple science.
	I'm sure even Tony Fauci can read this book.
	Yeah.
	I mean, but this is where we have to say, well, wait a minute.
	Why are we playing this charade?
	Why are we allowing an airline to tell us we can't get on a plane from the moment we walk in the airport?
	Yeah, time for private planes.
	You know, time to take our money away from those airlines.
	You can't force somebody...
	I can't even comprehend how a stewardess whose job is to keep us healthy has a mask on and you can't wear the mask you can see through so the deaf people can't take instruction if the plane's going to crash.
	And wait a minute...
	If that oxygen, if the cabin pressure loses air and that little oxygen mask moves on, what do you do?
	Do you take off the other one and put the oxygen mask off first or take it off your child?
	How does that actually work if you're causing every person on your plane to not have oxygen enough to run their daily function?
	Maybe if the cabin pressure...
	And oxygen, everybody on the plane with the mask on would be dead anyway, so we wouldn't have to worry about it, because by the time you put your mask on first, you're already passed out because you're in a hypoxic state.
	I mean, there's nothing about this that makes medical or scientific sense, and that's what movies like Plandemic show you and our work.
	I mean, it's simple.
	There are cures.
	There's the PH miracle.
	You know, if we simply test, we can all see it with our eyes.
	And it reminds me of the joke, you know, that the government plays on us every single morning.
	Who are you going to believe?
	Me or your lying eyes?
	Look around.
	We're the sickest people in the world.
	You can't inject animal tissues into human beings from day one of birth and not accelerate all disease processes and kill them.
	Okay.
	Well, a tour de force, as always.
	So now I do want to return, actually, to the plasma treatment, but I want to go to Dr.
	Robert Young first to let him answer those two questions in his way, because you've been so eloquent there.
	Thank you, Judy.
	And then come back to you, because I'd like to drill down on that plasma treatment a little further.
	So Dr.
	Young, if you don't mind, the two questions are the two announcements recently.
	The one is the Trump announcement.
	To do with this plasma treatment, and the second one is, of course, the CDC and their reversal in regard to asymptomatic people, as ludicrous as it all sounds.
	So go ahead.
	Thanks, Carrie, and thanks, Judy, for all that wonderful information.
	I have so many thoughts running through my head, I don't know where to start.
	Other than this, Albert Einstein said, if you cannot explain it simply, you don't understand what you're talking about.
	So I'm going to try to make this as simple as possible.
	And try to say it in a very good way.
	I mean, I remember one of my patients came to me and said, Doctor, when is this going to end?
	And I said, well, look, I'm a doctor.
	I'm not a politician.
	So, you know, as soon as we understand that this is all being run, not by those who have the knowledge and the truth and the science to back up their words, but this is a plandemic, as Judy has said.
	And so I support everything that she has said.
	Because it is absolutely true.
	This has been in the planning for many, many years.
	And it's not like I knew about it.
	I felt it.
	I experienced it.
	I asked myself, oh my heavens, what is happening here?
	You know, why am I being arrested?
	For unscrewing, you know, a PICC line, you know, in a case of an emergency.
	You know, what is this?
	It's like, well, we don't have any charges.
	We're just going to arrest you, and then we'll figure out the charges later.
	But just disrupt your business.
	And this is where it comes down to licensing.
	When we think of licensing, it's kind of like licensing your dog.
	What do you put around your dog when you license your dog?
	You put a collar around your dog.
	And then it has a little tag.
	Okay?
	Well, this, unfortunately, is what has gone on.
	And there's a purpose to it.
	And the purpose is to control those who have received the rights or the certification to do certain things that they don't go outside the box and start doing things that may not be along the lines of the so-called politicians or the business people that are behind all this.
	So they're the ones calling the shots, not the scientists.
	And so, you know, I can't speak to some of the scientists that are going along with this and whether they've got their dog collars on so tight and being yanked around.
	They don't want to lose their lifestyle.
	They don't want to lose their licenses to practice medicine.
	It doesn't matter whether you're licensed or not.
	If you're outside the box doing things in a non-invasive way, you're literally at risk.
	So now we're talking about this new possibility of using plasma.
	I would suggest, you know, a book called The Blood.
	The blood, the subtitle is called The Third Anatomical Element.
	And it's not my writings, but it's the writings of the great scientists who lived in the 19th and 20th century by the name of Antoine Béchamp.
	And it's called the blood, the third anatomical element.
	Okay, well, what are those three elements?
	If there's the blood, that's one element.
	What's within the blood?
	Okay, you've got red blood cells, you've got white blood cells.
	But the third anatomical element is those anatomical elements which are indestructible that are the precursors to all that is living.
	So what I'm going to say now is very important because Genetic matter is not living.
	It's what makes up that matter that's living.
	For if it was living, then after its destruction, it would be the only thing left.
	So when you cremate a body, that's all that's left.
	How come it doesn't all go up in smoke?
	The reason it doesn't all go up in smoke is because the living anatomical elements that make up our human body...
	are indestructible.
	And Gaston Nesson's tried to freeze it, to cut it, to try to destroy it.
	It is literally indestructible.
	But listen to me carefully.
	It is specific and unique to every organized animal or organized human body.
	And by taking on the anatomical elements of another human or another element, you're literally taking on Their memories, their lifestyle, just as if you had received a liver transplant or a heart transplant.
	You literally become that person, and the memories and the experiences crypted on these living, indestructible elements, you do so at a great risk.
	Now, I realize that desperate people do desperate things, and I understand that when people are choking or And they can't get oxygen in their bodies, and the body needs something from a donor in plasma of an antibody that may chelate the acid,
	and that's the purpose of an antibody, to buffer the acid in order to restore the alkaline design of the interstitial fluids The vascular fluids and the intracellular fluids.
	Three fluids the body has.
	So this is an environmental condition.
	That's why I refer to myself as an internal environmentalist.
	Because I'm working with the fluids of the body.
	So all disease are symptoms of their environment.
	For example, why do you put food in the refrigerator?
	So it won't spoil.
	What happens when you take it out of that controlled environment?
	It spoils.
	And what manifests when it spoils?
	Bacteria.
	Is that an infection?
	What about the mold that appears?
	Is that an infection?
	No, it's not an infection.
	It's an outfection.
	It's matter that is deteriorating and being recycled to go back to its original state of that living anatomical element which Antoine Béchamp referred to as the small being or the microzyma.
	Very important work.
	Using plasma as a treatment is risky business, but it may be life-saving because of the antibodies or the proteins that will help reduce the levels of acidity.
	If we go back, rather than treat the symptoms, we go back to the underlining genesis of all sickness and disease begins in the interstitial fluids and managing The delicate pH balance of those fluids.
	Now what does hydroxychloroquine do?
	The quinine part of that is quinine that literally acts like a bus to drive what?
	to drive the chlorin into or the zinc or other elements that you're using into the cell.
	And what does hydroxychloroquine actually do?
	It raises the pH of the interstitial fluids and the intracellular fluids, stopping or eliminating the cellular breakdown of the membrane or even the genetic breakdown or mutation.
	You stop genetic mutation by focusing on the environment.
	Now, anyone that has a swimming pool knows that when the pool is not filtered and cleaned and you don't put in those alkaline compounds or chemicals in the water, it starts getting murky.
	And then you call up the pool guy and say, hey, my pool looks terrible.
	In fact, it's actually growing lots of critters.
	I don't know where they came from.
	Does it have an infection or is this an outfection of a compromised environment?
	So you call the pool guy and say, wow, your pool is highly acidic.
	We're going to have to shock it.
	Well, you could use hydroxychloroquine, or you could use sodium chloride, or some alkalizing element like sodium bicarbonate, which the body does.
	The stomach is responsible for making that to protect the blood fluids, to protect the plasma, to protect the interstitial fluids, to protect the intracellular fluids.
	The stomach produces that.
	Sodium bicarbonate.
	That's called baking soda.
	Do you know how much ridicule I've received over the years by telling people to drink soda water by drinking sodium bicarbonate?
	Because the reason why is they haven't graduated or they didn't look at the entire equation of biochemistry of the lining of the stomach.
	You see, the lining of the stomach produces hydrochloric acid, but not in isolation.
	For every molecule of hydrochloric acid, it creates an equal amount of sodium bicarbonate.
	The hydrochloric acid doesn't even touch the food.
	What happens when you eat, the food gets alkalized.
	When you're under strain and you're overexercising, producing lactic acid, it's the stomach that produces sodium bicarbonate and dumps that waste in the gastric pits of the stomach, you know, and pushes that sodium bicarbonate into the vascular system, into the interstitial fluids to neutralize the lactic acid.
	Well, what happens if the stomach's not working right?
	Or you're eating the wrong kinds of foods or you've done this for years that you've literally damaged the ability of the stomach to produce baking soda.
	Well, lactic acid builds up.
	How does that feel when you overexercise?
	What if you're in lactic acid?
	You say, well, I've got irritation.
	My bones ache.
	Oh, you know, my muscles ache.
	Oh, well, now I've got cancer.
	There's only one cause of that, and that's the buildup of acidosis in the connective tissue, the muscles, which would be a sarcoma, or into the glands or in the organs, and the body has not been able to get rid of its metabolic waste or its dietary waste because you simply don't understand that.
	That the body is alkaline by design when you're in perfect health and acidic by function.
	And the immune system is not really an immune system at all.
	Now, I know you might think, oh, wait a minute.
	I think you're literally destroying my whole education here.
	You mean the immune system's not the immune system?
	No, the immune system is a glorified garbage collection service of macrophages and lymphocytes that go around and try to clean up the bloody mess from your poor-ass lifestyle and diet, you know?
	Acidic foods, acidic drinks, living in a polluted environment.
	How can you thrive in Los Angeles or New York and Chicago when you're breathing in nitrogen dioxide or you're breathing in hydrogen arsenic or you're breathing in carbon monoxide?
	You know, the time that we were actually incarcerated in our homes Quarantine was all of a sudden the skies started to look bluer and the air started to look cleaner and you went out and walked and said wow this is different I'm starting to breathe clean air again that's not polluted because the factories are closed.
	So you're not getting those chemicals and you're not getting the nitrogen dioxide and the arsenic and cadmium and all the different elements that are coming out of those smokestacks.
	The cars are down.
	No more carbon monoxide.
	Wow, this is good.
	And guess what?
	All those electric...
	Cars that are out there that are putting off electromagnetic fields that are cancer-causing cars.
	They're literally destroying the inside of your body, and they're literally causing the corona effect.
	I don't know if you know what the corona effect looks like, but this is a picture of it that I took in 1988.
	I coined it the corona effect.
	The reason I call it the corona effect is because this is not what healthy cells look like.
	Healthy cells are round and symmetrical, even in color, even in shape, even in size.
	That effect is a result of not an infection, But a compromised environment.
	So what would be true immunity?
	True immunity is found in maintaining and managing the delicate pH balance of the interstitial fluids.
	Oh my heavens, Dr.
	Young.
	What are the interstitial fluids?
	You know, the interstitial fluids are the fluids that surround every living cell.
	And you have over 70 trillion of them.
	Oh, I see.
	So the cell is only as healthy as the water it swims in.
	I think I read that in your book.
	It's called the fishbowl metaphor.
	The fish that swim in the ocean and the streams and the rivers are only as healthy as the water that they're residing in.
	The food in your refrigerator is only as healthy as the temperature control can manage and maintain that.
	Why in heaven's name would you put food in a freezer so it doesn't spoil?
	So we don't get old, we mold.
	And so somebody says, well, what about aspergillus of the lung?
	You're going, oh, that's a moldy lung.
	Well, what about pneumonia?
	Oh, that's a yeasty lung.
	Well, what about bacteria?
	Oh, well, that's precursor to some of these other advanced stages of cellular breakdowns.
	Okay, and you're on a roll.
	I see that, and it's great.
	But before you, because you have covered some of this on my other interviews with you, and I want to make sure to kind of get drilled down to this exact question, and I do not understand at the moment this situation with putting, because you sort of hit on it, but you didn't actually dwell on it.
	So the plasma, if we're going to shoot people full of plasma from other, formerly sick, but then supposedly recovered, and supposedly, we're not sure what they were sick from to start with, but supposedly recovered, we're taking the plasma from them and we're injecting it.
	This sounds to me very diabolical.
	It's not only diabolical, it's very dangerous.
	And you may get some reversal temporarily of your symptomology, but it's not curative.
	Okay, so what exactly does it mean?
	Because are we giving them antibodies?
	Is that what the person who's well is giving them?
	Yeah, they get the antibodies, but more than that, they get the living, indestructible, anatomical elements of another organized being that is now in that plasma that has its own unique life and experience that was part of something else, and you're literally taking on a transplant when you take the plasma of another person.
	It is a transplant.
	Even though it's a liquid, it's a living, flowing organ, right?
	And when you take on an organ from some animal or some human, and it's their material, you're literally setting yourself up for something more seriously that can come down the pipeline.
	Temporarily, if it's used to save a life, then you do what you have to do.
	But this is not the treatment of first resort.
	This is the treatment of last resort.
	So if you're using plasma, that's to save somebody that's going to die if you don't do it.
	But guess what?
	If you don't understand that you need to test the biochemistry of the interstitial fluids so that you can correctly alter the environment that then preserves the cell and accomplish a curative effect rather than a temporary solution, this is what I'm suggesting.
	But who's doing that in the hospitals and the clinics and the labs?
	You have to be an astronaut To get this kind of testing from NASA. When you come out of space, they're going to test your interstitial fluids because they want to see what zero gravity does to all the body fluids.
	Why in heaven's name don't we have this technology and this science in every testing lab, in every hospital, in every emergency room?
	Why?
	Because it changes everything.
	When you start getting the truth, Then you have to look at a different treatment because the treatments that are being given now are not resolving.
	You're using disease to treat disease rather than taking something that's curative that will restore life so people can thrive.
	Okay.
	You know, this is not the end of my questions with regard to this.
	I think there's more to it, but we'll go back to Judy as well on that.
	But let me just go to the CDC question because we didn't get your straight answer on that.
	So the CDC backtracking saying non-symptomatic or asymptomatic people do not need to be tested.
	What are they talking about?
	And I wish that this would make some inroads into, you know, because this is why they're being tested at airports.
	This is why countries, you know, we can't travel because they want to test you with a test that's faulty to begin with.
	To show up at an island, you're supposed to, within 72 hours, you're supposed to show them your test result.
	And that result is ludicrous to begin with.
	We know that much, but can you address this latest CDC report?
	Why are they even saying this?
	Why are they backtracking?
	What are they afraid of?
	Are they afraid of lawsuits?
	Because believe me, I think there are lawsuits galore that can come out of all of this.
	But what are your thoughts about it?
	Well, they have to protect themselves because it's not working out as they planned.
	They planned for a different result that everybody would just fall in line and do exactly what they say.
	But when you understand that The testing, RT-PCR testing, doesn't tell you anything.
	It's not specific to any specific condition.
	So what are you testing?
	False positive, false negative?
	They're all false.
	100%.
	All false.
	So what's the point of it?
	The point is that we're talking about it.
	That's the point.
	And the fact that we're talking about calling out the lie that it is, that the current testing that's being done is not only inaccurate, it's not defining specifically the underlining causative factors.
	You cannot do that You cannot get to the bottom of this by testing fragments of DNA. That doesn't tell you anything.
	I don't know what else to say.
	So my conclusion is this.
	They're just trying to protect their own asses.
	All right.
	Judy, you've heard the discussion.
	You might have some replies and then we'll kind of go back and forth on this.
	So either question, what would you like to say?
	Essentially, I agree completely with everything Robert's saying, Dr.
	Young's saying, because he did mention that the antibodies in the plasma, you know, the neutralizing antibodies, that's why they call them neutralizing.
	They neutralize the charge.
	So it's a last resort in a plasma phoresis, but certainly it stops you from injecting.
	And if we'd used other things in the first place, like berberine, other natural products, and as we mentioned, the hydroxychloroquines, the drugs, or the type 1 interferons, which literally shut down the expression of that RNA in the first which literally shut down the expression of that RNA in the first place, our own innate immune systems, it's all about balance, as he So he's exactly right.
	And so they're backpedaling as fast as they can because we're not just the we in the room, but we're talking about it.
	And movies like Plandemic and shows like Del Bigtree from people, The High Wire, Children's Health Defense, as we all talk about this stuff, And we all make people really realize that the emperor has no clothes.
	There's nothing behind what you've got.
	You've got this little man behind the screen named Fauci and Toto pulls down the screen for the Wizard of Oz and shows it's just a big guy with a blustery nothing.
	Well, this country for more than 30 years has believed the big guys with the blustery nothing and they're falling fast.
	And I guess, you know, that's the good news is we can go back, you know, to really understanding, you know, the pH, the interstitial fluid.
	I learn every time I hear Dr.
	Young, and I pulled up several papers.
	You know, there's a paper that I've been thinking about for the last year or so, published in 2018.
	Called No Effects Without Causes.
	The iron dysregulation and dormant microbes, you know, as he said, it's outfection, it's not infection.
	Hypothesis for chronic inflammatory diseases.
	So this is only a couple years ago, but it's just basically inventing in a way he just said it and re-explaining in a way he just said everything.
	But it's important because now we also know 5G and energy.
	That 5G, that frequency releases ferritin, so the hemoglobin won't bind the iron, and the iron ends up in the blood in the form of ferritin, and that creates a cytokine storm.
	That's a danger signal.
	A flame is not a good thing.
	And so that could be seen as COVID-19.
	Because they have the same inflammatory signature, if you will, that the government is telling us is the disease, which clearly has nothing to do with this SARS-CoV-2 virus, and it was never infection, it was outfection.
	You know, and these things were injected in the flu vaccines and everybody's like, oh look, there's a new disease and somebody didn't realize how to cook their bats in the seafood market.
	I'm still struggling to figure out how the bat got in the seafood market.
	It just doesn't, you know, but we believe that.
	We just believe that, and we just changed our entire lives.
	And this is why, you know, I feel bad that I can't think of a better way to say, how stupid are we?
	Why would you put on a mask?
	Did God make us put on a mask?
	Why would we just simply concentrate every toxin in the air, breathe out CO2, carbon dioxide, our own waste?
	Just like you're saying, we're literally re-ingesting our own waste.
	We don't drink our own urine.
	That might be the next thing, I don't know, that President Trump recommends.
	I don't know.
	I'm not going to go there.
	But at the end of the day...
	This is why this is good, because, you know, we've got the scientific arguments, but you don't need scientific arguments, and that's why Mickey Willis turned 180 degrees after he interviewed 30 scientists who said, well, yeah, she's basically saying the same thing I am.
	She uses different words, but she's not wrong.
	All right, well, okay, given all of that, I still want to go back to where we're at as far as the situation with the plasma, injecting this.
	I understand you're both saying it's a last resort and that's how you see it.
	Given the situation, I don't even know that we have that many people at death's door right now.
	I know we've got a lot of governments that are not letting people, healthy people, travel or move around or do anything, you know.
	So in other words, what is this?
	Why all of a sudden is this coming forward?
	Just if you were to sort of Stretch your mind to think about, you know, every step along the way there have been tactics.
	And given, if you're willing to consider, that Trump and his team are trying to counter the moves of the CDC, of the, you know, the WHO, and so on.
	At this point in the story, Idaho, the legislature, is right now voting to...
	Did you want me to answer that?
	I mean, really, 99.8% of the people who ever have evidence of infection are perfectly healthy.
	So what President Trump is offering with the plasmapheresis is for those people with COPD, with whatever else it is, these other inflammatory diseases, who have no, you know, who will die if they don't get their...
	Pre-exposure prophylaxis soon enough, you know, who are already in these disease states.
	I see them every day with the cancer.
	These are the people who are dying.
	Again, they didn't die of the infection.
	So if you offer up a last resort, say, then you don't need to take all the healthy people and throw them in masks and compromise their own immune system and make them sick and make them outfection themselves with every kind of mold, mycoplasma, And whatever you injected in the last three vaccines or more, So, I mean, I don't know.
	I'm not a political person, and I can't even begin to understand why we're still sitting here talking about this, because it was clear back in March there was nothing.
	And it's clear that, you know, Tony Fauci and CDC and World Health Organization, they've done this since HIV. They did Zika.
	They did Ebola.
	They did, you know, they keep doing it.
	And so the only thing you can come up with is it has nothing to do with medicine.
	It's just control.
	It's just take away people's freedom.
	So we're talking about you can't have your job back.
	Well, why?
	You know, we never made each other sick before, and we worked right there with all the AIDS patients.
	They never made me sick, and we never wore a mask.
	Why?
	Because I'm not going to ruin my own immune system, which is what Robert just said so eloquently.
	So we're going to keep ourselves healthy, and we're just fine.
	All right, fair enough.
	So, just to cycle back, Robert, did you have any further remarks?
	And then I'd like to see if we can make a little progress with some other questions.
	And I want to also not keep you both too long, but I also want to invite the people in the chat to ask you questions, if you don't mind.
	Well, keep us as long as you need to.
	This is so important.
	I mean, I can't reiterate how important this is.
	I'm here.
	Judy's here.
	You know, as long as you want to stay at this, I'm in on this.
	Thank you.
	And the reason for this is we need to educate, not medicate.
	We need to educate, not vaccinate.
	Now, the reason I say vaccination, because that is exactly what this is all about, is mandatory vaccination.
	We're building up.
	Yes, they're building up in a direction.
	So go ahead.
	Go ahead down that road.
	So, look, EMF is one way to poison you, you know, and it doesn't work on those who have other symptomologies.
	You know, if we're getting exposed to 1G up to 5G, whether it's 900 megahertz up to 60 gigahertz, that vibration...
	Causes damage to the cells.
	And it uses up the reserves that the body has to maintain its alkaline design.
	So as cells are breaking down, they're producing waste, just like in your refrigerator.
	When cells break down in your food, that gooey gummy stuff happens in the refrigerator.
	It's the same thing that happens inside your body.
	And things get...
	Coagulated and gooey, and we're trying to use all these compounds and chemicals to break it down, and we end up killing the patient.
	So if we want to do a better job, you know, and it's not working with, let's say, air pollution.
	By the way, air pollution is one of the top three contributing factors to death in the world.
	It's over 10 million people.
	A year worldwide died from air pollution.
	There was an additional 8.8 million that the World Health Organization added to the equation.
	But when we look at COVID and fatalities, we're looking at 0.01 chance of dying.
	Now, let's see.
	I could probably go spend a little money and go down and get a lottery ticket and really pray really hard and hope that I'm going to win the lottery.
	But that's your chances.
	as far as dying from a so-called phantom virus or the conditions in order to really take this to its final stages Of what the plandemic is about is population control.
	And the population control is there's too many people on the planet and too many people that aren't, I guess, you know, worthy enough to their lives aren't impacted, even though black lives matter, white lives matter, all these lives matter.
	That's just a front, you know, to create confusion as if, you know, we really care about people.
	The elite doesn't care about us.
	I mean, I'm an elite.
	My royal line comes from kings and queens of Sweden.
	I mean, we gave that up and sacrificed to come to America.
	And then my great-great-grandfather became the modern-day Moses and settled the western part of the United States.
	And his emphasis is in the rotunda of the Washington, D.C. Capitol building.
	The bottom line is that doesn't do anything for me.
	You know what really makes me happy and fulfills me?
	When I see a person who is struggling, Physically, spiritually, emotionally, be able to take some control back through education and be able to raise themselves out of their sickness and disease, whether it's physically, emotionally, or mentally, whatever that is.
	And so when we're talking about vaccinations and injecting genetically modified organisms of various animal sources, and then we couple that with Aluminum oxide.
	What in heaven's name is aluminum oxide being put in a vaccine?
	I mean, what's the point?
	Well, the point is, is it goes directly to the brain and it causes other symptomologies and brain destruction.
	These are the problems.
	Even the mask alters the neurological responses in balancing homeostasis.
	When you wear that mask, the body gets confused in what to do as far as managing and maintaining the alkaline design.
	You end up retaining more acidity on the brain.
	The brain is not releasing its waste product, so it builds up and builds up as if you hadn't slept for a day or two.
	And you're wondering, gee, I feel lightheaded.
	I feel dizzy.
	What's going on?
	You know, this is what EMF does.
	This is what air pollution does.
	But the final nail of this to complete their outcome is mandated across the board vaccination of which they would estimate out of their own mouths to Anywhere from,
	I've heard numbers, anywhere from 2 to 3 billion people up to 7 billion to 7.5 billion people would lose their life to a so-called phantom virus based on a plan that was implemented as the smoking gun, which is, you know, if you're talking about this as a gun, it's not the bullet that kills.
	It's not the smoke that kills.
	It's the person pulling the trigger that released that acid that's causing.
	And that acid, which is in every vaccine...
	It's so toxic that the body has to react to it.
	And the way it reacts to it, it takes all of its resources of alkalinity and it focuses on neutralizing those compounds, those genetic fragments, those chemical poisons, and tries to neutralize that because if it doesn't, you die.
	And when Kissinger said, well, gee, this is a win-win situation.
	You know, the hospitals win, they make money because they have more business, the doctors win, and the pharmaceutical companies win.
	This is a win-win situation.
	Everybody makes money while we're reducing the surplus population.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So what I want to ask both of you now is that there is, and let me see if I can get both of you on the screen here.
	This is sort of a juggling act.
	Okay, so today, I don't know if it was today, but David Icke has done an interview or sort of a discussion with Dr.
	Kaufman.
	You may or may not have been aware of it, and they are talking about Actually, what they're really testing for.
	So, on top of the vaccine and the diabolical sort of endgame there, there's also this sort of discovery, if you want to call it that, and I'm not sure it is a discovery, but nonetheless, I'd like to hear you both address it.
	The idea that they're testing for something else, because what they're supposedly testing for is false.
	I think...
	We're on that same page with you, and I think you've both explained that very well.
	So with that in mind, if Dr.
	Kaufman believes, or is starting to believe, that there is something else they're testing for, and it may have to do with, I don't know, it may have to do with certain kind of DNA, it may have to do with the people,
	in other words, I get the feeling that they're actually Trying to test not for the ones that will survive, but what they want to find out is the ones that are going to die and how they can find out which ones are going to die early on and which ones are going to live.
	Now, that's just hypothetical.
	But what, as doctors, can you address in this idea that let's pretend that this is correct, let's pretend they are testing for something else, that the nasal swab and the...
	And now suddenly they want to throw people asymptomatic out and say you don't have to be tested.
	Well, then they want to test symptomatic people.
	And what are they testing for if it's not the kinds of things that we would think they're testing for?
	Because they can't test for antibodies because antibodies, like I said on the show with you, Dr.
	Young, they don't have a sign on them saying I'm an antibody for COVID. They could be for anything.
	So that test doesn't seem logical.
	So what could they be testing for?
	Any ideas?
	Let's do Judy first, and then we'll do Dr.
	Young.
	Go ahead, Judy.
	Any thoughts?
	Almost anything and nothing combined.
	We have no idea what they're testing for.
	And when you inject hundreds of micrograms of animal tissue along with some mercury and some yeast and some mycoplasma mold, Borrelia, Babesia, God only knows what they're testing for.
	You know, clearly, as you say, it has no relevance, and that's what the data shows, to a coronavirus, to a common cold.
	It just doesn't.
	And so that's what all the data is backing up.
	We have no idea what they're testing for, and that's why we've been saying don't let anybody anywhere or anything else, just don't permit a test, because more likely What they're doing is they're taking your DNA or they're putting something in you and creating a problem as they have for my entire 40-year career and Dr.
	Young's as well.
	So, you know, the test has literally no validity and nobody has any idea what they're testing for.
	Dr.
	Young, your thoughts on this?
	Well, I think they're accumulating data, and with that particular data, if they're testing certain things, like, for example, if they're testing a particular...
	Increase in a certain element or a decrease in a certain element within the blood.
	Unfortunately, they're not getting the whole story because they're not testing the interstitial fluids, so it's really difficult to know exactly what's going on other than getting that patient to the final stages of life and then to death so they can do an autopsy to find out where all of these particulates that they injected into your body, where they end up.
	Let's see, the aluminum ended up here.
	The antifreeze ended up here.
	We've got some of that genetic matter also now bound up from the dog or the cat or the bat, actually spliced in with some human.
	What they're showing is...
	And this is kind of a warning to women and men, is that when you take on the anatomical elements in the genetic matter, specifically like sperm, when they do autopsies on women, they can actually determine...
	All of their lovers.
	If you've had ten lovers or five lovers, they'll actually end up finding that genetic matter in the body tissues.
	As far as splicing and dicing genetic matter with animals, creating something like transhumans, is this their outcome?
	Creating a transhuman?
	What the effects of, let's say, putting...
	Artificial intelligence and how the body responds to this.
	But I don't think this is science to help find the cure for cancer because we've already done this.
	It's not to find the cure for diabetes because we've done that too.
	So what are they looking for?
	They're looking for how do we create a transhuman?
	How do we splice in animal genetics?
	How do we put in artificial intelligence?
	Can we reprogram it?
	What does it look like?
	We can analyze that during the autopsy.
	This is, here again, just a gut feeling.
	The reason I like gut feelings is because it's in the gut where all of your stem cells are produced.
	It's that gut feeling where blood is produced.
	When you understand that blood is the foundational element of all of your body cells, you have to protect that.
	The best way to protect that is to find treatments that will manage and maintain the alkaline design of the body.
	So rather than using the antibody plasma therapy, there's many good antioxidants like N-acetylcysteine, like glutathione, compounds that are foundational based that release nascent oxygen that's available, such as sodium chloride that reduces compounds that are foundational based that release nascent oxygen that's available, such as sodium chloride that reduces the chlorine dioxide, This is the way you alkalize the body to restore the body.
	It is so simple to pull someone out without having to ventilate them unless they've gone, you know...
	Too far with their congestion in the lung that you can prevent these types of conditions by understanding, by infusing not acids, not chemical compounds that destroy the body or cause death,
	but those compounds that will actually alkalize and support the white blood cells In their release of nascent oxygen, such as SO- and the hydroxyl radical that it releases, these are lymphocytes that release these oxygen radicals, to buffer acidity that's coming from and immediately coming if you're vaccinated.
	Immediately there is a release of oxygen radicals to deal with this particular symptomology.
	So in answer to your question, Kerry, it is of no reason Good, that I can see that they're up to as it relates to continuing this.
	They're either trying to slowly back out of the mess they created because they can see they're not going to be successful in their outcome, which is the mandate of vaccination.
	People are wising up, realizing that they're getting educated.
	And they can do this by becoming their own doctor and managing their own life.
	And you can do this very simple.
	This is how simple it is.
	Go out and buy some of this pH hydrant paper.
	You see that?
	It costs you $10.
	So invest $10 in the morning when you pee.
	Pee on the strip.
	If it's not dark green or blue, then you need to take an alkalizing dose to raise the pH.
	Because the urine pH is a product, not of the blood, but a product of the interstitial fluids.
	And any pH that's below 7.2 is a compromised environment.
	And if you want to protect your health, protect your life, you need to manage the pool of fluid, which is the interstitial fluid.
	So that's kind of my two cents on this.
	Now, I'm going to throw another sort of spanner into the works here and ask you both.
	There's another strange thing that's happening, and I don't know what country it's coming out of.
	But they're talking about Believe it or not, bug spray.
	But I think they really mean bug spray, insect repellent that contains eucalyptus oil, I believe is the real, what we're really talking about.
	And there are people now that are saying this is a solution to heal people.
	And so can both of you address, if you haven't heard that, I'm sorry that you don't have the background, but it is being said that And reported in the news that they're thinking that this is actually a solution to supposedly heal individuals that have COVID. Now, so let's go to Judy.
	Judy, your thoughts on that?
	Well, I haven't a clue.
	I know the value of eucalyptus as an essential oil, but...
	You know, bug spray.
	I mean, at the beginning of the pandemic, they were spraying the inner cities with God only knows what.
	You know, the end of the movie pandemic shows releasing mosquitoes, you know, that are weaponized, that have multi-component tics, viruses, and things like that, tics as well.
	I haven't a clue.
	I haven't heard that at all.
	But, you know, this is silly, really, because We've just talked for the last hour of very simple natural solutions, God-given, you know, a pH paper.
	You know, why in the world would you spray us with a bug spray?
	It makes no sense.
	Okay, fair enough.
	So, Dr.
	Young?
	Well, I have this vivid picture of the 50s when they came out with DDT spray and they started spraying all the children with DDT. And I'm going, wait a minute.
	Of course, I wasn't born then, okay?
	I was born in 1952.
	But they're spraying, you know, these pictures.
	And you can Google them.
	I mean, I wrote a paper on polio.
	The major cause was, of course, DDT poisoning.
	Just like glyphosate for Zika causing birth defects.
	I mean, you can take any disease and I'll give you the acid that causes that disease.
	And when you're looking at the ingredients...
	When you're looking at the ingredients of anything that you ingest, whether it be food or whether it be drink, you have to really analyze, is this going to contribute alkalinity?
	Is this going to contribute electrons?
	Because that is the spark of life.
	Electrical energy.
	Our bodies run on electrons.
	And yet we produce acidic chemical waste that if not properly eliminated, that's what causes the disease.
	So actually what they're doing with that type of etiology is they're attacking the symptom again.
	And this is not curative.
	This is like a treatment.
	I mean, you can use pine saw, you know, to clean the, you know, the windows or the floors.
	And there's chemicals within those, within that pine needle, that oil, Just like in the eucalyptus, they have oils that help to break down, let's say, bacteria, yeast, or mold.
	But anything that's breaking down will be totally indiscriminate, if you're talking about a parasite, will be totally indiscriminate to what's healthy and what's not healthy.
	Now, I'm not saying you can't do some of that in combination with something else, but the primary key to restoring your health is to restore the alkaline design of the body fluids.
	And you need to understand that biochemistry is not based upon what your doctor is reading from the CBC community.
	And the Chem24 or whatever chemistry from the blood, because that gives you false information.
	The real information is contained in the interstitium organ, the largest organ in the human body, and specifically the interstitial fluids.
	So when we're looking at pine needle oils, when we're looking at eucalyptus or even pycnogenol from the pinus maritina, from We're talking about a very concentrated bioflavonoid.
	What are these?
	These are antioxidants.
	What are antioxidants?
	Well, anti means against...
	Oxidation.
	Oxidant is against oxidation.
	So rather than vaccinate us to try to kill some phantom virus or some genetic piece of material, we need to restore the alkaline design by infusing more alkalinity.
	And that's why in the 80s and the 90s, I was talking about drinking alkaline water.
	Oh, what a novel idea.
	Can you imagine somebody coming out in the 90s saying, you should be drinking 9.5 water at negative 450 millivolts?
	And they're going, what in the hell is he talking about?
	And he's going, wait a minute.
	Water is water.
	In reality, that's not true.
	Water is not water.
	It takes on different structures.
	It has different energies.
	Here again, it has a different redox factor.
	It has a different oxidative stress factor.
	It's either going to be proton donor or electron donor.
	But alkaline water is electron donning.
	It donates energy.
	But see, you can't get that anymore out of the tap.
	You can't get that anymore out of the bottle.
	And yet, this is more helpful to someone than, let's say, taking eucalyptus oil, which would be more directed as a compound that will, let's say, break down the parasite coating, You know, this is what nascent oxygen does in malaria for that particular parasite.
	But you can attack parasites or you can change the environment.
	So I want to give you a little metaphor here.
	It may help you understand this.
	So when New York, once in a while, decides not to pick up their garbage on the streets, and in New York City and Manhattan, what do they do?
	Every evening they put their garbage out on the street.
	Now, when the sanitation engineers go on strike, what comes out if you're not picking up the waste every day?
	All of a sudden, all the rats start coming out of everywhere.
	You say, where are all these rats living?
	The same thing happens with a swamp.
	Mosquitoes don't create the swamp.
	They're attracted to the swamp.
	No more than rats create the garbage that's being put out on the streets of Manhattan.
	You either clean up the garbage in the outside world and you clean up the garbage on the inside world to retain, here again, health, energy, and vitality.
	So it's like mosquitoes.
	And like flies, flies don't create the garbage.
	They migrate to the garbage.
	So how do we protect ourselves?
	We protect ourselves, I believe, and I've demonstrated this in pretty much all symptomologies.
	You protect yourself, and I believe protection is the true cure for all sickness and disease, by managing and maintaining the alkaline design of the body And understanding that all cellular functions produce acids if not eliminated through the four channels of elimination can cause sickness and disease.
	So when you're looking at specific treatments, you can use those temporarily if there's a high titer of yeast or mold.
	Let's say it's aspergillus.
	Yes, there are antifundals.
	Yes, there are antibacterials.
	Do I recommend those?
	Not necessarily.
	If you have the knowledge, there are things that won't harm the healthy tissue.
	And so you have to educate yourself.
	And there's lots of books out there.
	Currently I have 70 books that I've written and over 3,000 published articles.
	So, you know, I mean, you can spend a lifetime doing this, and that's exactly what I've done, is spend a lifetime.
	But I had to start somewhere.
	But, you know, Judy and Carrie, I've been saying the same thing for 40 years.
	And God has been really, really good to me.
	Because when he revealed to me the one sickness and the one disease and the one treatment, he was trying to get me away from From putting compartmentalized medicine and boxing it into different disciplines and disconnecting everybody so we can't work together with each other.
	So everybody's different.
	One person's treating the cardiovascular system.
	One's treating the neurological system.
	Another one's treating the endocrine system.
	And they all have their different educations and backgrounds, but we should all be working together.
	But this is what the system does.
	It does it intentionally.
	And now their intentions have increased, as I mentioned earlier, but there are ways to protect yourself and your loved ones if you understand this science, which I call the new biology.
	What is the new biology?
	It's a new way of living.
	It's a new way of eating.
	It's a new way of drinking.
	It's a new way of breathing.
	It's a new way of feeling.
	It's a new way of believing.
	And if you're willing to learn and understand these principles, then you can move out of fear.
	Which is an acronym that stands for false evidence appearing real.
	And move to its opposite polarity, which is faith, which is an acronym that stands for first attribute in thinking healthy.
	And when you move to faith and move out of fear, your whole life changes.
	And this is not false hope because there's nothing, there's no such thing as false hope.
	There's only hope or no hope.
	There's no such thing as false hope.
	And this is not to pit each other against each other.
	This is very black and white.
	Good and evil.
	That's what it's about.
	It's not about any culture or religious denomination.
	This is about, is this good or is it bad?
	It's that simple, folks.
	And guess what?
	The delineation between good and evil and the gulf that separates the two is becoming more defined.
	More defined.
	And we're seeing people like Judy step up and stand out.
	And share her knowledge with other doctors, medical doctors, in fact an assembly of over 500 doctors around the world that are trying to get this information out to the masses because they want people to understand that they can take back their lives and They can take back the control of their lives, and in doing so, they don't have to be subservient to a science that doesn't make any sense anyway.
	Right, no doubt about it.
	All right, so at this point, what I'd like to do is open it up for questions from the chat, and Judy, if you have anything to add to what's been said, As well as to what is going on.
	And if there's anything else that I haven't asked you about that you think is important to, you know, the world situation, to the latest moves in the medical community, etc., please, please say so.
	And this is for Judy.
	Always.
	I'm not at all shy.
	So really, I think everything has been said.
	And what we don't do, I mean, each time that I, you know, talk to Robert, talk to other doctors, those 500 doctors, we all have a different lens.
	I'm a little bit younger.
	I learned from those a little bit older.
	I mentioned some of them earlier, you know, where...
	Until we get to a point where we see things, we don't necessarily appreciate it, but we've been set apart.
	We've had closed minds.
	We're told, as the film showed, a pandemic indoctrination, you know, they showed spraying with DDT when we all thought that was a lovely idea.
	And that was Rachel Carson also was, you know, her life was destroyed and she died ultimately.
	And this is the examples of this throughout medical history, at least with respect to vaccination, was in the wonderful foreword written by Bobby Kennedy Jr., who's an environmental lawyer.
	He's always looking at toxins and everything that Robert just said.
	So, yeah, we're saying it all.
	It's time for a new way of looking at health and the responsibility for our own health and cleaning up our environment.
	And just really ending the plague of corruption.
	It's been going on for 40 years, as the movie clearly showed.
	And what we just have to do is go back to healthy, clean food, no GMOs.
	You know, thinking about the principles, the very basic principles of oxygen and delivering oxygen to our tissues, which is the basis of all of life.
	And disease, as Robert so clearly said.
	So, you know, we're good.
	We have to change everything.
	The entire paradigm has to change.
	And hopefully this is the wake-up call everybody needs, because if it's not, it'll be the end of humanity.
	As I think Robert said clearly, this is a program of population control and elimination, as we see also in Plandemic.
	Okay.
	Now, there is somebody...
	I'm getting a lot of questions, so I'm going to try to grab them here.
	So they're talking about Moderna and putting in something...
	I don't know how to pronounce it.
	Something like lysophase or...
	I have to find the word because it just went by really quickly.
	Do you know what I'm talking about?
	This latest...
	It's actually a phosphorescence.
	Yeah, I know what they're talking about.
	Luciferase is the word you're looking for.
	Enzyme that creates phosphorescence.
	And so, you know, really...
	We could debate at the scientific level this next Moderna messenger RNA vaccine where we've created this.
	We're going to literally put the blueprint of another organism and we're going to package it in such a way that it can enter in.
	Every cell is a nanoparticle, you know, along with some of those toxic mercury, aluminum, whatever it is they throw in there because they're never going to tell us.
	And this is just a bad idea no matter what they do.
	And that's what we've been talking about.
	So, you know, we're not going to debate the I mean, we can.
	The dangers of these idiotic proposals that are being put forth.
	But if we don't get over the fear and have the faith, as Robert just said, you know, we just spin wheels and we're caught in the weeds of deciding what's more toxic to inject into us.
	All of these vaccines are bad.
	The proof is clear.
	Don't inject anything into a person's bloodstream and you'll likely be just fine.
	Okay.
	There is...
	I was hearing that...
	I think...
	I'm not sure which...
	I was listening to a number of things, but it might have been the pandemic.
	They were talking about the switch from the petroleum-based vaccines to vaccines that were based, I guess, with aluminum.
	I'm not sure if that was the transition.
	But what...
	What was going on there and where are they going to go now with that?
	Can you imagine if any of these concoctions are going to use the old school or is it going to be a whole new sort of concoction?
	And that's for either one of you that wants to address that.
	Well, I just think we shouldn't be making any of this stuff.
	Yeah, I realize we're talking, we shouldn't, of course, and we have no interest, as many of us have no interest in taking any of these things, but I am very concerned about the people that are, they even say something, I don't know if they're wrong, I hope they are, 65% of Americans want to take A vaccine of some kind.
	So what are they looking forward to?
	You know, I mean, this is so diabolical at this point.
	We know there's going to be, I mean, I know there's going to be what they call smart desks that is basically going to link them to the AI and so on in that sense.
	But any thoughts about where we're headed in what these Yeah, I do.
	Not MMS, but whatever you use, Dr.
	Young.
	There has been said that can clear, like, when somebody gets a vaccine, they could actually take some of that stuff and get rid of the effects of the vaccine as quickly as possible.
	If they find, you know, I mean, these could be life-saving gestures, really.
	We're going to have populations that are already shot up with all kinds of things.
	Uh, you know, volunteer for this.
	It's, it's like, um, you can't change people's minds sufficiently to get them to, to actually, you know, protect themselves and, and, and do something other than that.
	Uh, so warning them about ingredients, I mean, um, that's very helpful.
	Obviously we know that animal, I mean, it seems like a no brainer, but the animal parts, the fetuses, uh, that they're, we're talking about, you know, uh, This kind of stuff.
	Any thoughts, either one of you, about what you would say to people?
	Because here, in a sense, we're preaching to the choir.
	And I want to also, if just by accident somebody stumbles on this video and they are planning their Provax, what can they be warned about that's going to be in this latest...
	New version that these companies are planning.
	I mean, supposedly Russia came up with something, and it went out to mainly the Middle East, and they bought billions of dollars worth of this vaccine that came out of Russia.
	This was in the news not long ago.
	So what's in that vaccine?
	What are people putting into their bodies at this point?
	Okay, well, I mean, if you're going to the pharmacy, you can ask for the insert, so you can actually see an ingredient list of all the ingredients within this, and also the possible side effects of this.
	you can either Google that or on any specific drug or any specific vaccine and you can get an ingredient list and you can also when you go to the pharmacy if it's an oral medication of course vaccinations if you're going to your doctor you can ask them for the insert that came with the vaccine and they're going to ask you well why do you want that
	this is because I want to know exactly what is going into one of the most important organs of my body the body of life which is my blood as Moses said for the life of all flesh is the blood and the only thing you do by receiving any vaccine that I've ever studied is that you systemically poison yourself and and
	And possibly, for some people, you live through it, but you're injured.
	You're damaged for it.
	And I mean, you just have to look at the statistics on attention deficit syndrome and diabetes and look at, you know, we've got 135 now.
	It used to be one in 1,000.
	One in 5,000 with autism, and now it's one in 35.
	And why are boys so more reactive to vaccines than women or girls?
	And the reason why is because they have that baby fat on them to protect them in childbearing years.
	That acid, which is pushed into the intravascular fluids, is immediately reacted by the body pushing it out to the interstitial fluids and from the interstitial fluids right into the fatty tissues.
	Well, guess where the aluminum goes?
	They've already done autopsies.
	It's in.
	Where does the mercury go?
	They've already done autopsies.
	It's in the brain.
	Well, what is the brain?
	The brain is a fatty tissue.
	So it's going in the brain.
	For a woman, it's going into the breast tissue.
	Why is breast cancer on the rise?
	Because the vaccine that you just got injected with chemical poisons has been pushed out into the fatty tissues, i.e.
	the breast tissue.
	It's awful.
	It's terrible.
	But this is what happens.
	And for people that are overweight, they have a better chance to survive a vaccine than someone who's underweight.
	If you're underweight, the body has no protection.
	And so when it goes into the organs, it's just going to break down the cells, and you end up dying from vaccine poisoning, become one of those statistics, which apparently...
	Those who believe that, well, yes, we do lose people from vaccinations.
	They do have a side effect called death.
	But it's awful when it happens to someone that you love.
	And so when we're looking at the individual ingredients like aluminum oxide, like glyphosate, which I believe is one of the chemicals they're going to be putting into these vaccines, like thimerosal, which is mercury, which They may be eliminating that because they got a lot of flack when they put it into the vaccine.
	In some of the vaccines, it's been taken out.
	They substitute it with something more toxic, which is aluminum oxide.
	But here again, whatever the chemicals are, these are not natural, they're not normal, and they do not alkalize, they do not protect, they do not provide an environment that's conducive for the cells to thrive in.
	You have to understand this.
	This mentality that you can use witch's brew and inject that into the body, absolutely you're going to cause a secondary immune response.
	The first one, which most people don't know, The stomach starts making a massive amount of sodium bicarbonate and literally pouring that into the intravascular fluids to neutralize the poison that you just received.
	On top of that, the neutrophils and the lymphocytes activate cell fragments from the vaccine or even release nascent oxygen or even, in this case, we're talking about O1. If you're taking a supplement that can release nascent oxygen or O1, this is actually the number one bestseller.
	That I wrote called sodium chloride and chlorine dioxide, a non-toxic antimicrobial agent for viruses, bacteria, yeast, and mold.
	Well, that seems kind of conventional that I would actually create something, but in reality, as you realize, it's not about the mold.
	It's not about the virus.
	It's not about the germ.
	It's about the environment in which these germs were created in.
	You see?
	It's not about the fly.
	It's not about the mosquito.
	I've got to get rid of those damn mosquitoes without cleaning up the swamp.
	Oh, I've got to kill all these flies without taking out the garbage.
	You see, you cannot fight your condition of dis-ease with dis-ease.
	This is evidence of morbid, polluted thinking.
	Okay.
	And there's only one point.
	So what I'm saying here is that you have to read the labels.
	And, Cherry, it's not just pharmaceuticals, it's also nutraceuticals.
	So you've got to start reading the labels of the supplements that are being sold at these so-called health food stores, which contain also toxic ingredients, preservatives, and additives.
	And if you look at the Greek word enzyme, If you look at the word, it means poison.
	Enzymes are acids or waste products, and I would avoid those things, but a lot of people are popping enzymes, a lot of people are taking probiotics, thinking, oh, I've got to have bacteria in my gut, you know?
	You know, I've got to have enzymes to break down my food, and these are all toxic ideas that don't bring you to an alkaline environment and start where your life can start thriving.
	Okay, now I have these questions coming up in the chat, so to be a little patient with them, if you don't mind.
	And, you know, like I said, I'm not going to keep this going forever, but just to ask you both to respond if you are so disposed.
	So we have someone asking about, let's see, okay, that Crozone 8.
	Crozone 8.
	Maybe I'm saying it wrong.
	Maybe it's spelled wrong.
	I don't know.
	What is chromosome 8?
	Does that sound like anything you recognize?
	Yeah, they're talking about chromosome 8 as being identical to the so-called covert DNA mapping.
	If you look at these fragments that they're identifying and you chart the genomic letters on there, As far as the patents that were taken, is that chromosome 8, which is responsible for brain development and brain health, is being identified.
	And guess what?
	We all have chromosome 8.
	So I guess we're all positive for COVID. So the test they're doing is testing chromosome 8, which is human DNA in relationship to brain development.
	They're saying this is COVID. This is what they did with the exosome.
	Oh, the exosome is now the virus.
	Wait a minute.
	Exosomes don't come from the outside world.
	They come from the inside world.
	This is born in us and from us.
	Why don't you make up your mind?
	Because we're not going to believe these lies anymore.
	Okay, Judy, go ahead.
	Yeah, that's exactly it.
	There's nothing more to be said.
	Okay.
	It's chromosome 8, and we all have chromosome 8 in every cell, so we're all positive.
	You got it.
	And that's why the test is garbage.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	Did you hear what Judy said?
	Judy said the tests are all garbage.
	They're worthless.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm with you, I think, 100%, obviously, but I'm not so sure some of the American public and the people out there that are...
	Actually, a woman in Texas was beat up by the crowd for not wearing a mask, and the police came in.
	And tried to hit her as well.
	This is the kind of madness we've got out there.
	So, okay, there's someone else wants to know about adrenochrome, the link between adrenochrome and the COVID. Well, they're saying COVID-17, but maybe they meant COVID-19.
	So I don't know.
	Any thoughts on that, either one of you?
	None here.
	I don't know enough about what it's called.
	Yeah, I think what she's referring to is drinking the blood to get the adrenochrome, and I really don't want to discuss that.
	I mean, it's just, number one, you don't eat the blood of animals.
	You don't eat the blood of humans.
	This is putting in DNA that doesn't belong to you.
	The body reacts to that.
	As a foreign entity, it's just not something you should be doing.
	And if you're doing it, it'll be to your demise.
	So, you know, just to get a high.
	Well, sure you're getting a high.
	You can get a buzz off cocaine, too.
	I guess you should be doing that.
	Or heroin.
	Or, you know, why not just, you know...
	Take some sugar or some caffeine.
	Here again, these are things that are not good for you, but they do cause the body to react.
	That reaction is a defense.
	When you poison the body with whatever you're eating or drinking, the body has to react to that to restore its normal pH at a 7.365.
	It's that simple, folks.
	Sorry, I was muted there.
	Someone is asking about alkaline water and whether you should get a special filtration system for that if you recommend that sort of thing.
	Yes, either one?
	Yeah, I can address that.
	One of my chapters, I wrote a very good chapter in this book right here, The PH Miracle for Weight Loss.
	And one of the chapters is called...
	Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
	You know, we're going, wow, there's ocean water, there's lake water, but here again, it's all polluted.
	It is polluted from many factors, many factors.
	Air pollution, water pollution is responsible for four or five million deaths a year.
	The bottom line is, yes, you have to filter, and you have to use a micro and nano filtration system, because the particulate matter is very, very small.
	And if we're looking at one micron, that's one twenty-five thousandths of an inch.
	So it's very, very tiny.
	If you want to be logical, let's be logical here.
	The pores of the mask, because it's a cloth material, when we're talking about something that's one twenty-five thousandths of an inch, That's going from 100 nanometers down to 1 nanometers, which is the range of viruses.
	They're passing right through that mesh.
	In other words, you're wearing a mask, but it's really not effective in keeping things that are toxic.
	So you're really not increasing the amount of carbon dioxide that you're holding onto, which causes...
	Hypercapnia or carbon dioxide poisoning.
	So these are the things.
	But back to the water.
	We are 60 to 70 percent water.
	You know?
	And if you want to get healthy, you got to pee your way to health.
	And if you're not drinking and filling up and restoring the rivers and streams and oceans of our bodies, Because we're predominantly water, what kind of water should we be drinking?
	The type of water should be like our own body fluids.
	So number one, it should be alkaline.
	Number one, since our body cells run on electrons, which are transported on a matrix of salt, that electron and taking salt is very, very important.
	So salt is good, okay?
	Even though it's been told that we shouldn't eat much salt, it's good.
	You can have as much salt as you want.
	The more the better, but the right kind of salt.
	But getting back to the water, okay?
	So the right kind of salt is sea salt.
	I hope that you would...
	That would be sea salt or inland salts.
	Some of my favorites would be the North Shore, the Great Salt Lake, inland salt.
	And the other salt would be the Redmond salt.
	Both of them are in Utah, but these are the best salts.
	And the reason I say that, the North Shore, because we farm a 30% saline solution, which I believe a dilution of salt 30%, which I believe is the solution to the particular problems that we're talking about.
	As far as transport of energy, salt is very important.
	So incorporating then the water...
	The water, our tears, our blood, our sweat, our urine, these are all supposed to be salty.
	If they're sweet, something's wrong here.
	We're creating cellular breakdowns, kind of like a banana.
	When it gets ripe, it starts getting sweeter and sweeter and sweeter.
	Then it goes from...
	From green to yellow to getting black spots, and then it's gone.
	So the water you drink should have at least a pH, an alkaline pH of 9.5 to 10.
	Now, alkalinity is not just one of the aspects of a good water.
	The other aspect is it needs to be electrically charged.
	And what that means, it must contain electrons, and those can be measured.
	It's called the ORP or the oxidative reduction potential.
	So it must be charged in order that this water is not only alkaline, but it's going to release a surplus of electrical energy that's going to energize my body or even be used to neutralize the acids from metabolism, from diet, from exercise.
	uh, from respiration, even from vaccination, you can use alkalinity to neutralize the toxic acids that are contained within vaccines.
	If that's the route you decide to go, but what's the point?
	I mean, the point is to, is to, yeah.
	And I'm sorry to break in here because, uh, we're, we're going a bit long and I need to sort of round this thing down.
	Uh, What I'd like to do is get your final comments regarding all of this that we're dealing with and anything that you think hasn't been covered or needs to be mentioned.
	And I then would recommend people do watch my other interviews with both of you individually, as well as every other interview that you're doing online, because there's no doubt that everything you have to say is very valuable.
	So just as far as wrap up comments, Judy, would you like to address that at the moment?
	Well, I think I just think it's important that we that we look at all, you know, that we look at the message and how the message has been twisted, you know, by the press, by the main mainstream medicine.
	You know, Plandemic goes into, oh, you know, Rockefeller called it alternative medicine when it was clear what he was doing was causing the disease.
	Drugs were causing cancer.
	He founded the American Cancer Society.
	I mean, I think the comments are really that this is a real wake-up period for America, and if not the world, to start seeing that these institutions that we believe in, the only person that can take responsibility for your health is you.
	We've given away the responsibilities.
	We, the people, have given away our freedoms.
	It's not about somebody else to solve to take care of our own body.
	It's up to us to educate ourselves.
	As Robert said, he's written many books.
	We've written three here in the last few years.
	And again, the information is out there and it's time for everybody to have an open mind and look and see.
	Really just the lies we've been told and it's clear we're not healthy and we could restore our health with a few simple just going back to pure basics and not poisoning our blood is the whole point.
	Okay, and I hope that we can have you basically use some of your background to address these issues Thank you, Judy.
	And I know, you know, you've been working very hard all day, and I'm sure you're getting quite tired.
	I want to ask Robert for his wrap-up comments, and then we'll let you both go.
	So, Robert, your comments.
	Well, my comment is I'm so grateful to have met you, Kerry, and met you, Judy.
	I mean, that comes from my heart.
	I'm so glad not to be alone, that there's other voices that are speaking truth and that are doing it at great risk, but realizing, you know, it's so important.
	How can we not speak the truth?
	I mean, there's no alternative motives behind this other than to educate and motivate people to a better life.
	So there's so much suffering.
	It doesn't have to be that way.
	Our children are being poisoned.
	Our children are our future and they're being damaged by vaccinations.
	They're being damaged by current nutraceuticals and pharmaceuticals based upon the Pasteurian germ theory.
	And when we understand this new biology, this new way of living and eating and thinking and feeling and believing, life begins to change and we begin to restore the alkaline design of the body fluids.
	And cells are getting healthy and getting happy and...
	And this is what you're looking about.
	And so when I was invited to the White House to advise President Obama and then also meet his wife, Michelle, when she started the child's lunch program and trying to get children to eat healthier, and we had the opportunity to share the kinds of foods and the transitional foods that could be implemented there, and I was grateful to be part of that.
	I was grateful to be able to share with President Obama that what was needed is we needed choice.
	We needed free agency to be able to choose a conventional treatment or an alternative treatment, and that other modes of treatment needed to be included that were complementary or alternative.
	And I think that President Obama, I don't think I know that's what he's doing.
	He's trying to make the box bigger to allow more opportunity and more freedom of choice.
	And you're exactly right, Judy and Carrie.
	We need to take back our freedom and our sovereignty and remember that if we want to understand this is our body, this is our choice because it's our life.
	And when you take that back and own it, I know some of you are saying, but how do I do that?
	You do that by empowering yourself.
	Now, the true virus is this political agenda.
	It's the media agenda.
	Okay?
	And the disease is ignorance.
	My people perish because of lack of knowledge.
	We have to empower people with knowledge and understanding.
	So when you have knowledge, you can save your own life.
	You don't have to look outside yourself.
	You can look inside yourself.
	And the treatment is so simple.
	The treatment is common sense.
	So I've defined what the virus is.
	I've defined what the disease is, and I've also suggested education.
	And prevention is what we need to do.
	We need to focus more on preventing sickness and disease rather than treating sickness and disease.
	And we can do that with knowledge and understanding.
	And that's why you need to read Judy's books.
	That's why you need to look at the books that I've written and others along the same lines The help to empower yourself so that you can use good common sense to determine the health for yourself because it is your body, it is your life, and it should be your choice.
	And that's all I was asking.
	President Obama, give the people the choice.
	Remember that statement?
	You can choose the doctor of your choice.
	You probably don't know this, but when that statement was said, I knew exactly what he meant.
	You could choose a chiropractor.
	You could choose a naturopath.
	You could choose an alternative healthcare practitioner.
	You could choose a medical doctor.
	You weren't just locked into one particular company.
	You know, protophile or profile for treatments.
	And I felt like that was important.
	Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
	I see Trump opening up the opportunity and the doors for this.
	I hope this is the case.
	This is what I hope for all of us.
	And all I can say is God bless each and every one of you with the knowledge to be able to empower yourself to take control of your life And may you be fearless, but even better, may you be faithful in exercising that faith, because I know as you do, and as you gain knowledge, you will gain knowledge.
	A comfort zone to be able to say, wow, you know, I'm in my health destiny.
	And you'll begin to thrive.
	And that's really what it's about.
	It's not about existing.
	It's about thriving.
	And so in September, a major documentary is being released that's featuring myself, Dr.
	Galena McGalcoe, And another physicist, Nassim, was presenting some of this breakthrough research that's going out in 15 different languages simultaneously across the world.
	If you're familiar with One of the first documentaries, it's called Thrive One.
	Thrive One has been seen by over 100 million people.
	Thrive Two is coming out soon.
	I can't tell you the exact date.
	It's coming out in September.
	It's breakthrough research.
	I'm proud to say Dr.
	Galena is going to be presenting non-evasive medical diagnostics.
	Listen to this.
	I'm sorry I'm taking a little extra time here, Kerry, but listen to this.
	We can now test the blood without taking blood out of the body.
	We can do all the chemistry, we can do all the blood counts, and we can do that For people who are afraid of their own blood or who don't like needles, but the most important thing is we don't disturb and we don't put the human effect that can create false positives that give us information that's not accurate when we have to take the blood You know, spin it, separate it, or add anticoagulants or coagulants.
	This is not the way to be able to get true knowledge.
	And with that, also the testing, the non-invasive testing, for testing the biochemistry of the interstitial fluids.
	So you know what the pH of the fluids are.
	You know what the biochemistry of all fluids are.
	So you can literally have this knowledge and then see what treatments are actually working or what treatments are not working.
	So this documentary is going to be coming out in September.
	One last thing, and then I'll say thank you and good night, is if you get a chance, look at the documentary which was just released two days ago about Unmasked.
	Unmasked is seven episodes of my talking.
	If you can hold on, I mean, it's eight hours of talking.
	I mean, we've been talking here, what, for close to three hours, maybe three and a half hours, but you can get seven to eight hours of this information, and it's called...
	It's unmasked, the lies, you know, the politics, the money, etc., etc., that's behind all this.
	It complements everything that Judy has been talking about, and God bless you, Judy.
	God bless you, Carrie, and thank you so much for your contributions and being part of this one voice for All humanity.
	So thank you again.
	All right.
	Well, thank you both.
	In my eyes, you're heroes, and it's not an easy time to step up.
	But I want to thank you both for doing so, and this is what we need, and I hope that other doctors like yourselves will continue to talk to the public, and if we could get them to talk to our politicians and the people that are actually trying to rule our lives.
	But I do think we have to take the power into our own hands and make our own decisions, and that's going to be what, in the end, turns the tide.
	So thank you both for being on the show tonight and taking all the time necessary to do so and putting your energy into it.
	I know from the chat that people really do appreciate it, so I just want to convey that to you.
	So thanks everyone for being here tonight and take care.
	Thanks so much.
	God bless you.
	Okay.
	God bless you, Judy.
	Hope to see you soon.
	Yeah, we got to meet in person.
	We will.
	We will.
	Absolutely.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you so much.
	That sounds good.
	I hope you do meet.
	You know, great minds coming together.
	That's really what it's all about.
	So, everyone, thank you for listening and being here tonight again.
	And we'll be back.
	I think I have a show with Sterling Hill.
	I guess her specialty, she's an epigeneticist, but she's also investigated the COVID situation from many different angles.
	I've actually got an article where she and Dr.
	Robert Young are having a conversation.
	That's on my website if you're interested.
	So her name is Sterling Hill and she's quite excellent.
	And thanks again for watching tonight and we'll be back.
	And please consider subscribing to my channel.
	Certain videos are going to be free indefinitely simply because they serve the public good.
	But everything we do here is an investigation into truth and exposing the lies.
	So it's vital information and I want to thank all my guests.
	That I've had all over the many, many years I've been doing this.
	So thank you again, everyone, and have a good night.

▲