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Feb. 7, 2020 - Project Camelot
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MARIA WHEATLEY AND KERRY CASSIDY DISCUSS THEIR UPCOMING TOUR OF EGYPT
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Hi, everyone. everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
I've got Maria Wheatley with me and going to bring her on the screen right here.
So Maria say hello to everyone.
Hello Carrie and hello everyone and thanks for having me Carrie.
Absolutely, so it's a pleasure to have you here and what we're going to be talking about is our upcoming tour of Egypt and What we've come across in the other tours we've done.
So I think that that will be very exciting for people.
At this moment, what I'd like you to do is introduce yourself.
A lot of people know you and Maria is an expert dowser and her father was an expert dowser and he worked for the Queen.
And so aside from that, maybe you can go into a little more detail about yourself and then we'll launch into Egypt.
Yes, well, I'm a second-generation dowser, and I've been studying Earth energies and ley lines for literally half my life now.
And I really do feel that ancient sites were sited upon these nexus points, as we all know, with leys and very much more diverse Earth energies as well, and creating power places.
So I've studied the energies of Gaia, Earth energies, in association with ancient sites.
And I also discovered through dowsing and research that Stonehenge, the ancient Britons there, had elongated skulls as well.
So I've kind of used dowsing for research and to discover things that literally nobody had heard about the long-scale people of Stonehenge before that discovery, of which I'm quite proud of.
Okay, so yes, that's a very, very succinct cover of what you are really all about.
So you've been speaking at conferences and doing a tour recently of the United States, I think.
And can you talk a little bit about your tour, what you came across there?
Yes, I was speaking at Contact in the Desert and also at James Tiburon Earth Keepers Conference, which was in Arkansas.
So I've been kind of interacting with the native sites of America, which are really extraordinary, one of which is outside of Sedona.
I mean, we all know of Sedona and the vortex energy there.
It's well-famous.
But just outside, you have a place called Dugut.
Which is an ancient structure that is also very high in energy.
And further to the north of that you have another site with a beautiful kiva.
That's a circular sacred area that is a very high energy at a place called Wupaki.
And also there's such similarities between the ancient British design canons of bound building And in Arkansas, I went to the Toltec mounds there, which are very similar to the ones that surround Stonehenge.
So there's all of these similarities going on in the way they integrated the earth energies to create an esoteric center and the actual design.
So they're very high energy and they're little talked about.
Even America's Stonehenge, which is near Salem, Not far from Boston, about 30 minutes I think from Boston if I'm correct.
That is an incredible site that contains 14 chambers and could be as much as 2,000 to 3,000 years old.
Thank you.
Yes, because the Osirin is a unique temple.
It could be very ancient, dating back thousands and thousands of years.
But what I was quite intrigued about the place is what it actually is, is a water temple.
Because you've got an island in the middle and it was surrounded by like a rectangular area of water.
And there was tests recently done on the depth of those channels.
And it's quite extraordinary because the seismic data says it could have gone down 15 meters and that's 42 feet and actually hit and intersect the water table.
So that channel is incredibly deep and fully watertight.
So the engineering skills in that alone are absolutely extraordinary.
And it does share similarities that I go into detail in the moment with sites in the UK that also water temples.
But what is fascinating about the Osirin is that it's water under pressure.
It's called like an artesian aquifer.
And it's been prodded with probes to see if it could cause pressure to force those probes back.
And it does.
So it's high-intensity pressurized water.
And it was always thought that water came from the Nile because, you know, it's situated reasonably close to the Nile.
But 11 isotope test samples around the whole complex and further afield as well proved that it was not fully the water of the Nile.
And what I suggest that it is, it's very, very deep aquifer water that is very, very pure.
Right.
Okay, that's interesting.
So you're saying the water is coming out of the ground underneath Abydos, correct?
Right.
Yes, under intense high pressure.
So when they were probed down, because only half of the rubble has been really cleared in 1925 and thereafter, when the probes were put down, it literally bounced back up.
It was that strong pressure.
So if we take it back to the back in the day, as it were, I think that would have been quite excitable water, maybe even bubbling and quite energetic.
It wouldn't necessarily have been still water.
You're saying it would be still water or it would not be still water?
It would not be still water.
If it's a high-pressured artesian aquifer that's beneath it, it would have been kind of under pressure, so it would be kind of bubbly.
It would have been quite active water, not necessarily still.
Okay, and do you think that it would have been healing water?
I think so, because water diviners use a particular method to find out the quality of the water long, long before they waterbore.
You have to analyse the potability of the water.
And an artesian will be under pressure all of the time.
No need for a pump because it comes up under pressure.
But what water diviners do is they test the quality through colour frequency.
And for example, most drinking water comes under the colour frequency of blue.
Water with iron in it would come under red, copper, green and so on and so forth.
And the waters there come under violet, so that's considered quite healing water and very, very powerful.
So I think it may have had medicinal properties as well.
Okay, well that is very fascinating and I have to say that the siren has undergone a lot of damage.
We actually were let into a certain area And I'm not supposed to tell people about, but I can say that it was a place where people had hidden and it also appeared that perhaps there was some kind of disease in that area.
So I don't know if this was a modern thing or if this had gone through many, many years.
It's very shocking that they don't clean the site up because, you know, they don't let people normally go past a certain point.
In fact, you can only look at it from above, generally speaking.
And as you know, so it's quite interesting how they keep people away.
I have a theory that, of course, the Osirin was much older than the temple in front of it.
So I think that a completely different set of beings, in fact, are responsible for the temple, you know, the Osirin, what we call the Osirin.
It's huge blocks, basically, and it doesn't actually have any inscriptions or beautiful paintings like the temple in front.
So it's a completely different design.
And the energies there, I imagine, you tested the energies in both places.
Maybe you could talk about the differences in the energy in those two temples, even though they're right next to each other.
And I just want to say, also, other people may not agree, but I believe that the temple...
The Osirin has this flower of life, but I think that was put in in modern times.
I do not think that it was there originally.
That's just my theory.
But at any rate, can you talk about the differences between, and maybe the similarities as well, the two temples?
Yes, I think you're very correct.
I think it's far, far older.
I think it's probably one of the oldest temples in the area.
Now when we look at Earth energies, what the ancients did, the very early peoples at least, they used to look for particular types of energy patterns.
One is called the geospiral and they would mark that in the ground and then place a temple above it to harness its energies.
And if we look to Britain and France and Malta and elsewhere, The same thing occurs.
They look for these deeper aquifers that release these spiral patterns and place the temple on there.
And that's happened at the Osiris.
So that means that that is older because the temple in front of it is like you've just described, Kerry, doesn't have that.
So if the temple in front, Abydos, was...
The oldest it would have been aligned on that energy pattern because numerous sites worldwide are so I think that alone says of its antiquity and The energies are quite different between the two because one really focuses on the power of the deep underground aquifer and the other more of earth energy and ley lines and grid lines as we'll come to in a moment.
But you see in the ancient world water temples were deemed very sacred places and when we go to a stone circle Quite close to me, which you've been to carry on numerous occasions, called Avebury Henge.
I looked into the water depth level there of the water table with Wessex water and using their figures, and they're very conservative figures, I think the henge was a moat full of water around it, creating a kind of island at Avebury surrounded by water.
And like I said, that's using, you know, Wessex boring wells depths nearby.
So these water temples were very, very important to the ancients and they do tend to predate the other temple spaces like Abydos and other stone circles around the area of Avebury.
And they would have looked, you know, quite stunning as well.
And I think, you know, people go into the Osirin.
It was really about the water and the energy that the underground water produces.
And it's a massive geospiral, the Osirin, with 42 coils compared to, say, something like Avebury and Stonehenge that just has seven.
So it's a huge lake underneath that.
With the pressure against the rocks, it can change, it's believed by some, the quality of the water alone to a higher kind of frequency of water.
Okay, so that's contrasting the site in England with Egypt.
And, you know, Egypt and England are on a similar, I don't know if it's the ley line or what, but they're connected to There's a connection between Stonehenge, I think you know this, and Egypt, the Great Pyramid site.
And there's another sort of part of that triangle that also goes to Pine Gap in Australia, just in case you don't know that part.
But at any rate, I wonder what the connection there is with the underground.
And I interviewed a very interesting...
Witness in Spain who was focused on the history of the Templars and he talked about underground water and how the Illuminati have built the cities to take advantage of the underground water and also how they've in certain areas of the city where the poor people live it's less beneficial underground water and they've also put it into pipes that have right angles Which actually lessens the energy
even more.
And then in the places where the wealthy live, They actually take advantage of that and then allow it to have its natural, more spiral pattern.
And so he was really a great expert.
Unfortunately, he doesn't speak English, so it's problematic.
I was never able to get him on my show.
But fascinating story.
And this goes into the churches and fountains, centers of town, etc.
So I know you're aware of all of that.
So, in terms of these waters that are sort of hidden, because people don't know, I mean, parts of Egypt look very dry, but under the sites, as you say, just like Sedona, as a matter of fact, I've heard.
Sedona has a great deal of underground, very healthy groundwater.
Even though it's again very dry on the surface except for the river you know that goes in that area.
So you might be aware of how interesting it is that settlements that are not near the ocean per se or an obvious river have actually a lot of underground very healthy water that people don't really seem to know about right?
Well, exactly.
The climate above ground has nothing to do with an aquifer because if we go to Australia, a very, very arid desert type of land on the middle of the continent, then you have one of the largest aquifers.
And even below the Atlantic Ocean, only recently found is another huge, huge aquifer And we even get our term currency through the current that water produces.
And in China, water and money are kind of interchangeable and relate to one another.
And there was many other type of water temples.
I mean, you had Silbury Hill, not far from Avebury, which was surrounded by water all year round.
You go to the United States of America and you have a large mound there, Grave Creek, that was also surrounded by water.
It featured a lot in ancient design canon.
And even the Vatican at the hill, if we look at the Vatican as a hill originally, that had a lot of springs that were medicinal around it because it was placed on top of an aquifer.
The secret of the Templars, which you were mentioning earlier through your Spanish researcher, the Templars would create fonts, that's why the Christians would put their water for baptism, etc., above these underground pockets of water because they knew that if you have very deep aquifer water that produces the spiral pattern and not geopathic stress of ground water,
that's another type of underground water, then it is said that Transform the water above it into a more harmonic one.
So even when you look in a church placement, fonts are placed exactly above these deep pockets of underground water.
And even in Masonic halls, the water is involved on a very similar level.
Absolutely.
And I'm going to try to find that interview so I can put it into the chat so that people can watch it.
I think we got it translated, if I recall.
At any rate, in terms of when we go to Egypt, do you want to talk about just the experience of it for people?
Because you've been going for a couple years now, and I've been going for a lot of years.
And I can say every single time it's different, and every time...
It's mind-blowing.
And it awakens part, you know, your body, your chakras, and really gets you going.
So, do you want to talk about your experience the first time you went and contrast that with how you felt the second time?
Yes, I mean, it is for some, and for me, certainly, my first trip was life-changing.
It really did change me.
And as I've said to you before, Kerry, and I was glad of your advice at the time, I had a kundalini rising experience at Komombo Temple.
So I really do feel that when we interact with these high energy places, with the design, the architecture, the earth energies, the lay energies, underground water, it all combines to create Intense temple space.
And when we interact with that energy by going into these places, and we have a very good Egyptian guide as well that is very knowledgeable, that takes us into these places, you can have these life-changing experiences.
And last year when we went, numerous people felt the energies and And some even felt, you know, the temple spaces where we're talking to them.
And one lady had an amazing experience at Hathor's temple in Osiris's chapel where she felt she got completely healed.
So there is a lot going on at these temples that they give us something.
And that's what I love about ancient sites.
They give their energies and they give their consciousness to some people.
No doubt about it.
Well, I would actually say all people.
And then it's up to you how you use it, how it sort of resonates through your various chakras and your life experience.
You know, we have a whole page of actually recommendations of our trip.
So if you go to the front page of Camelot, projectcamelot.tv, you'll see under events, there is a drop-down that tells you how you can register for our trip, but also you can actually read all of the recommendations of the people that went last year.
And it's actually mind-blowing to me that the wonderful comments that were made, just really over-the-top type of things.
So I do encourage people that are interested to go there.
There is a difference in our trip, wouldn't you say, to others.
And you and I have been doing tours, I know, for years all over the world, really.
Yeah.
And in Malta and various places.
I've concentrated on Egypt so far, though I'm looking at a possible Romanian trip.
I don't know if this year we'll manage a tour, but in the future I'd love to do that.
It's actually kind of addicting doing this sort of thing, going to ancient sites and finding the energies and Especially if you're an Earth-sensitive or a dowser, as you say, that's when you really sort of tap into these places.
I went to Adam's Calendar.
I don't know if you ever did that.
And it's amazing energy.
You would just go through the roof with all the fascinating, interesting things.
Different kinds of energy at the different stone circles and then Adam's Calendar being this amazing site on the side of a cliff.
So overlooking this huge valley, it's really a spectacular site and certainly under-publicized.
They really don't encourage people to go there, strangely.
Michael Tellinger, of course, Has, you know, made it popular and made it known and he takes tours there.
But for the most part, it's simply an unknown.
It's as important as Stonehenge, as important as, you know, the Great Pyramids of Egypt, in my opinion, and yet it's widely overlooked.
And I think there's a purpose behind that.
So, in terms of our tour, can you talk about simply the, I guess, the ins and outs of the touring, what it's like, and why ours might be different than other tours to Egypt?
I think our tour is different to other tours in Egypt because we have our own expertise and specialties that we can contribute.
I mean, you contribute your take on the temples and explain that.
And I'd explain about, you know, the different types of Earth energy, like Adam's calendar that has different types of energy.
You can get like healing Earth energy, rejuvenating Earth energy.
I mean, the list goes on with all the different types of Earth energy that you get.
And in Egypt, you have some very remarkable Earth energies that That are called the Alpha and the Omega type of Earth energies.
And that's when Earth energy comes out of the ground, travels for a while, so to speak, and then terminates somewhere.
And they're very, very powerful, especially the start and the end.
And you do have that at Abydos.
So you have lots of different takes.
You have yours and you have our wonderful Egyptian guide.
He is absolutely an authority.
He's like a walking encyclopedia on Egyptology and he can answer any questions.
He's very enthusiastic.
He's very entertaining and he is above all knowledgeable and he makes us feel like a family.
For the time that we spend together, we all come together, we eat together, we talk together, and especially on the Nile cruise.
So we get to know one another.
So I think there's a certain intimacy about our tours as well.
I have to agree.
And just for people in the chat, I noticed that they don't understand what format we've got going on here.
But because Maria and I are co-workers, Leaders of the tours in Egypt.
This particular conversation is not an interview.
I have interviewed Maria in the past, and we've gotten into all her various travels, etc.
And those interviews are on my website.
So if you're interested in hearing an interview with Maria, I do encourage you to watch those videos.
I think I've interviewed you two or three times at this point.
In the past, Maria, and actually last year we did a similar discussion.
So this is really a discussion between us of what it's like to be in Egypt.
I am trying to give Maria the sort of stage here to give her take on things, but I am absolutely going to be sharing my take as well because it's so important to understand that if you do come with us to Egypt, you are getting Me and Maria and also our guide, Amro.
I also want to say about Amro, he's politically very astute.
He actually majored, I've said, in college and university in political science in addition to becoming an Egyptologist.
So he has a take on modern-day Egypt that is quite rare among guides, from what I understand.
And I've actually traveled in the early days with other guides, and I can tell you that this is for sure.
Egyptian guides are notoriously fairly quiet about the political situation in their country because For one thing, they don't have a lot of freedom of speech there, and they do need to be very careful, and yet Amro does share with us his take on what's going on.
We do see and spend time among the people of Egypt, and so there's a connection that we have, I think, that's quite interesting and quite fun.
The people that are helping with the tour, sometimes someone will just come and help for a day.
We will interact quite a bit with those individuals and it's a lot of fun.
I also want to talk about the Egyptian specialists that are not the guards in the temples, but they're actually They're as experts, but they're Egyptian, and most of them don't speak a lot of English, and yet they are always in attendance when we go around.
And I guess you've noticed this, Maria, but I've actually noticed this very much because they've actually...
Nodded with approval after you and I speak.
It's really funny and really very touching and I'm honored by it.
And I just wondered if you pay attention.
Did you notice that in our last tour?
Yes, I mean, it was because I think, you know, again, they're listening to another take and also seeing, you know, some of the group do dowsing with Egyptian Isis pendulums or Elrods.
And I will certainly take some really nice copper-based Elrods.
To detect exactly where you have things like geospirals, primary spirals, underground water, ley lines, grid lines, healing energies.
We'll be interacting with all those different types and each type of energy will emit a different type of pattern.
And colour frequency as well.
So we're going to be looking at all of that.
And I've got a pair of copper dowsing rods here.
I mean, these are the type of things that we can be using in ancient Egypt to detect energies, as well as an Isis pendulum like this that can screw together to make a hole.
We did a lot of work with that last year in some of the temple spaces.
And two doctors learned how to use the ISIS pendulum on our tour.
One of them works in the NHS and another one in America.
So that's really good to get that out because that type of pendulum can charge up food or water or anything really.
So we will experience a lot of different ideas that have come out through Dawson that do have their roots in ancient Egypt.
Excuse me.
So what I want to do is also ask you about the sort of energies that you experience in terms of The various temples, sites, and the different, like you say, groundwaters.
Like, does anything come to mind in terms of the Great Pyramid versus, say, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara?
And, you know, there are certain...
Very pronounced differences.
Can you talk a little bit about, you know, the differences as opposed to the similarities in those sites?
And also, if you remember the underground tombs, and I'm forgetting the name of that particular site, but it's right next to this.
Sorry?
Yes.
So can you talk about what you found there?
Yes, well, different cultures around the world would look for particular types of energies.
Now, for example, at Abydos, coming through from the northeast, there's a big solar energy ley line That then targets the chapel, the sanctuary as it's called, of the sun god Ra.
So that's really linking in a sun energy line.
To that deity, that force of nature, if you will.
Now, when it comes to the more female types of temple spaces, like Hathor's temple, then you wouldn't necessarily have a solar line going through, which would be deemed masculine.
You would either have a female earth current, you would have a female yin water going through, Or more of like a lunar or Venus orientated lay.
So the Christians adopted this as well.
So when you go into, for example, a cathedral or a church dedicated to Saint Mary or Saint Catherine, that will have the female earth currents or the female lay, if you will, or female waters.
Describing its gender.
And same for the masculine one.
So you do get this kind of polarity going on within temples and stone circles alike.
And they tend to go through the center all the way through to the other side.
And female sanctuaries, like you get Abydos, for example, they would have a female earth current going through.
So even when we come to the inner sanctuaries within the temple spaces of Egypt, the earth energies can prevail and be present there.
And when we compare a place like Abydos, Hathor's Temple, to some Greek temples like the Acropolis, you have lots of columns.
I mean, it's beautiful in Abydos.
You have these papyrus, beautifully ornate pillars.
But each one of those pillars emits what's called megalithic energy, like stone energy, if you will.
Now, normally a standing stone in the ground is literally in the ground and it has two energy bands below ground and five above.
And you can see this on my website, the Avebury Experience, under megalithic power in my article section.
But when a whole pillar is above ground, like a church buttress and the columns of Egypt, they have these massive seven energy bands, all of which are above ground.
Now, if you imagine you've got two columns like that, the second energy band goes right the way to the next one.
It's called crosstalk.
I remember describing this to Michael Tellinger about Adam's calendar, actually.
So each one of those columns, Abydos, is sending an electromagnetic energy signal, which we have detected at other ancient sites with Rodney Hale, who's often worked with Andrew Collins, the author.
And so you're going through this huge electromagnetic area because each column is in communication with the other.
So that is creating a huge megalithic charged area.
with it and especially in some substances like granite for example and sandstone that can be highly charged creating even more megalithic power so if you're going to Stonehenge or if you're going to an Egyptian temple they have similar ways of the energies combined in not just the earth but from the stone itself and if you have one of the temple walls Rooted into Earth
energy, and this happens at, like I described earlier, a place called Tusiute, quite close to Sedona, and the wall is on the Earth energy.
The whole of the wall becomes imbued in Earth energy as well, and that can be very powerful.
So we need to think sort of beyond ley lines.
We need to think of all these different types of Gaia's energies combined into create.
A geodetic power place.
And that's when you get lots of energies there.
So it's not just one thing going on.
It's not just like a ley line.
Because some ley lines can have Earth energies entwining them.
And this has been very widely documented for the past 40 years here in the UK. And what I noticed, for example, the Great Pyramid of Giza, you have lots and lots going on.
I think you don't just have a groundwater aquifer that has been said time and time again by different authorities and authors on Egypt.
I think, yes, you do have a groundwater aquifer, but I think going much, much deeper below that you have another Aquifer containing more purer water, not the rainwater that filled up the groundwater aquifer there.
And all of that creates an intense pressure.
And it was the archaeologist Timothy Champion that noticed that all the Neolithic sites across Northwest Europe were at the point of an intersection of two aquifers.
I mean, that was a fact, an archaeological fact.
So I think that each temple in Egypt has its own kind of signature but shares similarities with sites across the world.
So for example at Stonehenge you've got a solar lake coming in through the northeast like you have at Abydos.
So there are similarities but there's a unique earth signature there that is unique to that place and sometimes the altars of churches The sacred place within a temple, like an Edfu temple, you have the statue of Horus.
That's on a very powerful earth energy point, or what's called an earth voltage.
And that's where there's kind of a voltage surge and pulsation of energy coming out the ground.
But in terms of when statues are placed on these, I mean, there was standing stones in England, but in Egypt there's statues placed on it.
It imbues that man-made construct with living and breathing earth energy, making it unique, almost like bringing it alive.
Yes, absolutely.
And I don't know the name of the site, but do you remember the huge...
I don't know.
I think they're like out of Star Wars or something.
It's a particular site that is not really well known, and they won't let you really explore it thoroughly.
But it is...
It's outside or on the way back from the temple of, gosh, I don't know the name of it.
But at any rate, there's these huge statues and they're giant.
And they're much bigger than any statues anywhere else in Egypt.
And this fascinates me because I think that particular site is actually...
It goes back to the giants.
We're not talking 9 feet tall.
We're talking 24 feet tall.
So it's a completely different civilization.
And they're also quite broken down.
Do you know which side I'm talking about?
Do you recall that one?
Yeah, I think that was the grandfather of King Tut created those colossal statues.
Yes, and that's the story.
But, you know, this is the thing, is that one thing that we do in Egypt that other people I don't think do, and certainly I do, Is that because, you know, I'm Project Camelot, I'm always looking into the sort of the story behind the story and what's really going on and what the Egyptian guides have been told to tell us versus what's really the history, the hidden history, if you will.
And this is true all over Egypt and quite marked in certain places.
And one of the places of the Valley of the Kings as well, where If you start to look at the drawings, the paintings on the walls in the tombs of the Valley of the Kings, you'll see there's a variation that is different than, say, the temple at Abydos and other temples.
In other words, the story being told in the pictograms, if you want to call them that, Is not the same.
And there's also interesting overlays.
I went to Egypt on one of my trips with Carmen Balta.
And she is an Egyptian.
She guides tours there all the time.
And she's a Canadian artist.
Well, she was a professor.
I'm not sure what she's doing now, but she also is famous for a famous video that they made about Egypt.
And she focused on the feminine energies in Egypt, specifically Amarna especially, which is the site of Akhenaten and Nefertiti's kingdom, which most tourists do not go visit.
And actually, I don't even think they let you go there.
But I was able to go.
We went there and I had a massive sort of past life.
I'm not even sure what to call it, but it was so real.
It was exactly the same as reality.
And I went into a meditation and sort of reached this very fascinating place.
Actually, it was three of us that we were doing a small group meditation.
And this is something that we do in Egypt.
Our guide is very sensitive to the value of being able to meditate on these very powerful sites.
And yet it's against the law in Egypt for Westerners or anyone to meditate in the temples other than, I guess, possibly their own people.
And this gets into the whole sort of issue with Islam and other religions and so on.
But nonetheless, so the guards will, if you sit and you try to close your eyes, they actually walk up to you and tell you that you can't do that.
So you have to be quite surreptitious, but the temples and the temple sites are very sort of labyrinthian, and it's easy to kind of...
Hide, and especially because there are many groups going through, you can kind of get lost in the crowd and do what you want if you're sort of astute and aware.
And so we do this sort of thing, and we do manage to meditate on key sites.
We also, our guide, our Egyptian guide, Amre Rho, also makes it possible for us to go to places, even within the temples, That they try to keep you away from.
There are power places within the temples that a lot of people don't kind of realize.
There's always a center.
Carmen always calls it the Holy of Holies.
I wouldn't necessarily call it that.
But this is a central area that is supposed to be the heart of the temple.
But in reality, there are other sites on the same temple site that may be even more powerful energies.
And I think you're very aware of this, Maria.
And it's very valuable to have someone who is a dowser who can test the various areas, especially when I get a sense That there is something different in a place that can bring Maria over and she can test and give us some understanding of what's intersecting there, the various energies.
So it's quite a different kind of approach to Egypt with my questioning the party line, if you will, and then Maria's ability to look at the Earth energies.
So that's, I think, very valuable for people.
And wouldn't you agree, Maria, that that's fascinating, the fact that these temple sites sometimes have very special hidden areas that we're able to go into, and I think that other tour groups aren't really aware of.
Yes, I mean, that's the unique thing about our guide, Amaran.
He can, you know, get us into these points and we can experience the The ambience, the energy, how we feel about it.
Where does the energy affect us?
Is it in our bodies, our spirits, our minds?
We can go in really, really deep with that.
And that is a very magical time when you enter the temples.
And last year we went to...
It was Karnak, I think, which was at night, wasn't it?
It was the evening and we heard the...
The mosque ring out and it was getting to a twilight and the lights came on and the temple was lit up and that alone was a spectacle that was a delight to see.
So, you know, you can be taken away and blown away by some of the just the vision of the place.
And also it makes you feel quite small because they're gigantic, towering above you with their presence and with their power as well.
And that can be quite mind blowing as well.
And I do think encoded into some of the temples are healing instruments.
And certainly the authors of the life force of the Great Pyramid noticed that, again, going back to Abydos, that in the second hall, there is a depiction of Hathor, the goddess Hathor, holding what looks like the symbol of water, which holding what looks like the symbol of water, which is like a chevron pattern, you know, like a zigzag.
That's a universal symbol of water, no matter where one goes.
Even the Aborigines would have a very similar symbol.
But The authors of the book that I've just quoted decided to make that chevron water pattern, you know, and let's say it was in copper like this, but instead of being straight, it was zigzag, just like the goddess Hathor was holding.
And using kinesiology, they found that that was very healing and that could really strengthen the body.
So I think, like you were saying, Kerry, by looking beyond necessarily the symbol of water and to look in for another answer was that healing energy.
They certainly proved that with kinesiology at least.
So I think by reinterpretation of some of the ancient symbolism, we can understand these sites on a much deeper and more mystical and profound level.
Absolutely.
And I also, before I'm, you know, we're going to close this down pretty soon.
But before we do that, I think we'll take some questions from the audience.
We do have an active chat room alongside here.
And I do want to talk for a moment about Abu Ghraib, because we go there every time.
And we have to have an armed guard.
It's actually most tour groups don't go there.
It's the Alabaster Spaceport area.
As it's called, which is right next to and adjacent to a sort of an old step pyramid that is actually sort of in disrepair, which I think is kind of fascinating, almost as if it were bombed or something.
It's really quite, you know, broken down.
And yet at the same time, there's very powerful energy there, of course.
And you've got this incredible alabaster, what looks like a modern structure that is really quite gigantic.
And I believe it's called Alabaster the Stone, but maybe you have another thought on what it is, Maria.
But I'm wondering if you remember what kind of energies you got in that place, because it's one of the most fascinating places we go, and it's very special.
We've gotten all kinds.
I've gotten psychic sort of downloads there and other people have and we had people there reporting in last time of the history that they were tapping into remote viewing and so on.
So any thoughts about Abu Ghraib?
Yes, I mean, that is a very, very unique place, and it really does feel like an adventure going there on the Land Rovers through the desert, across the dunes.
That alone I found quite amazing.
Very Indiana Jones, yes.
I know it is.
It is.
And that's fascinating.
But I think at that unique site, you have, again, lots of things coming together.
I can recall a whole nexus of lays that come together there.
They create like a star shape, you know, like crossing and crossing and crossing again.
So that creates a kind of large, like, vortex area.
That charges anything from that place to another place.
So that's unique.
That's a transportative energy that can travel quite fast along leis.
Leis conduct fast flowing energy.
Not necessarily good to live above, but that place is generating it and pushing it out to other places as well.
So I found that quite unique there.
It really does change your mindset.
You really do feel that there is something going on between you and that site with what you get.
Like you said, a lot of people had their own stories to tell after visiting that site that changed them in some way or some manner.
Absolutely.
And I'm not even going to go into all of it right now because, you know, in a certain sense, I don't want to spoil it for people either.
So we're trying to tell you about our trip and what it's like to be in Egypt.
And I've actually got two documentaries that we made.
So my partner, Neil Anthony Sanford, Basically films everything all along the way.
And so we've got a short, a documentary short that's around, I think it's 10 minutes or 11 minutes from last year.
And then from the year before, we filmed a longer one.
It's about 35 minutes.
It's really jam-packed.
With more information about what it's like to tour with us in Egypt.
And it also has good information.
But I think the important thing about going to Egypt is that it is a journey of discovery.
And rather than get front-loaded too much with what we know is there and so on and so forth, I prefer people to discover it when they arrive and keep your own unique sort of approach.
And allow it to sort of work with you and on you.
Now, there was a question in the chat that I saw earlier, Maria, that I thought perhaps you might be able to talk about as well.
It has to do with what might be similar between Egypt and America.
And specifically, I know that Phoenix, Arizona, for example, is said to be a Basically, a site just like Egypt.
So it's all hidden under the ground.
And even in the Grand Canyon, they found Egyptian-like relics and so on.
So this is a very well-known story.
And I wondered, I know you went to Sedona.
I don't know if you know about these stories, Maria.
And are you aware of the similarity and the idea that buried under Phoenix is actually an Egyptian city?
Well, I don't know whether it's an Egyptian city, but there are artifacts that have been found.
And in the Grand Canyon, you get a lot of the rock formations named after, you know, ancient Egypt.
I saw that when I was there.
Back in the summer.
I think, you know, the ancient civilizations of Egypt and elsewhere were interactive and they traveled far, far more than what we give them credit for.
Even in England, you have some Egyptian artifacts at Stonehenge, for example.
These people were traveling and interacting.
And also, when I was at a lecture in America in November, One of the lecturers there who has a program in the States called, I think it was America Unearthed, Scott was his name, said that it was, you know, much later than the ancient Egypt, you even got the Templars going to America.
So I think America has been interacted with through culture after culture of importance and cultures that have brought credit and worth there.
And so, again, it's a multi-layered place.
I don't think it's just one culture that has been there.
And as we know, the Vikings could have founded America long, long before Columbus did.
So, yes.
And when we kind of start to have a look at some of the temples there, like what I mentioned earlier, Wupaki, it has such similarities with temple design of the ancient Templars.
As well, that can be quite astonishing.
So I think there's a variety of different links in ancient America that haven't really been fully explored.
The Egyptian connection and the Templar connection, and as well as the Norse, the Viking connections as well.
Right, and I agree.
I also want to say that there is Information about Egypt and boats that were built.
There are certain people that have specialized in this information and how they were actually able to cross the Atlantic and go to Egypt, from Egypt to America as well.
And if you go back far enough, you're also talking about Atlantis, which was in the Atlantic, and that was a land mass, and it was spread...
It is said that Atlantis actually was worldwide as a culture.
And a lot of the Atlanteans, when Atlantis finally fell, went directly to Egypt.
And there is a very strong Atlantis-Egyptian connection.
And I actually toured with Jordan Maxwell and William Henry, who I did a tour specializing on those links in Egypt.
But I can say that what's interesting, I had a sort of, I don't know what you want to call it, a vision or a past life recall.
When I was in Ireland, when I first arrived, we arrived at night and so then we went into the hotel.
And there wasn't much to see.
Obviously, it was very dark.
And when I woke up, I don't know why, but I had this feeling that I was in Egypt, like an Egyptian place.
And maybe it was Atlantis.
But I have this feeling that Atlantis and Egypt shared a lot of the physicality, a lot of similar temples and structures and things.
And when I opened the curtains, I expected to see basically Egypt.
in front of me, but in fact, it was Ireland.
And I can't explain why I had that other than saying the Irish also have in their history a very strong connection to Egypt.
And there's also those connections, I think you know, to do with England.
So it is fascinating how the Atlantean civilization, the signs of it are still, you can still find them And I can tell you that Phoenix is said to be covered with the sands that came down through from the Grand Canyon area and actually covered the entire city and that So,
it's strange that they don't excavate there, and I think that they don't want people to know this for some reason, but Richard Hoagland is somebody who has been talking about this, and he always said that if you look at the mountaintops in the Phoenix area, you will see they're not normal mountaintops.
What they are is they're as if the very top of the mountains you see, but you see that they rise up out of the ground gradually, Out of a level which is unusual.
So they're not structured, you know, sort of gradual.
They just have a very short distance to a very strong peak.
So it's really fascinating once you kind of know about this theory to drive through Phoenix, Arizona and actually look.
At the ground and look at what's all around there.
And there are a lot of military bases underground there now, of course.
And I would be fascinated to know what it is they come across when they've excavated or gone into those underground tunnels and so on.
They probably came across some amazing things.
And of course, like I say, the history of the Grand Canyon is really substantial.
In terms of finds of Egyptian-type looking finds.
And again, that probably goes back to Atlantis.
There's so much we don't know that hasn't really been explained properly.
And needs further exploration.
And I think that's one of the most wonderful things about being alive and being able to go to these places in person.
I think it enhances you and enhances your life in ways that you can't even imagine initially.
So I highly recommend travel as being, especially to ancient sites, as being incredibly enlightening.
Any thoughts on that?
Yeah, well it's interesting about your island experience because if we say, as most do, that Atlantis was in the Atlantic Ocean and you're a survivor from Atlantis, there's been suggested that with the particular currents that prevail that you would land on the Irish coast in Sligo.
And it's interesting to know that the oldest temples of the British Isles are in Sligo, where it's a natural bay where any wreck would go into.
And they predate Avery and Stonehenge by probably, I think it's 1,500 years.
So they're very, very ancient there.
So I think, yes, there is an ancient Atlantis connection to Ireland and elsewhere.
Across the British Isles, which is a fact, because when we look, like I say, at how the currents prevail, you would end up there.
And that's quite fascinating that you linked into that, Carrie, when you were in Ireland.
Well, yes, it's these sort of surprising revelations that come to you in these various places around the world.
And it wouldn't happen otherwise if you didn't go there physically and actually, you know, sort of expose yourself to it.
I tend to, it triggers all kinds of, you know...
Former past life memories and things of that nature when I travel.
And so I think it's really a joy to have that experience.
So at this time, I think we'll close this down.
Now, I don't see any other questions.
In other words, there's a lot of chat, but not a lot of questions.
What you call question marks after anything.
Somebody wants to know about ticket sales.
I'm not sure what the question is, actually.
Okay.
Anything else?
And everything, if you want to know anything, it's all on my website.
Just go to projectcamelot.tv.
Go to the top I'm actually speaking on February.
I think it's the 22nd.
It's a Saturday.
And there's a UFOCon event.
I'll be there and that's there as well if you want to buy a ticket and find out more about that.
But on top of it again there's the comments Actually reviews of our travelers from last year which are as I say really quite fascinating and extensive by the way they're not just short sentences and so if you want to know what it was like for others you can certainly go there and then also the registration link which contains all of the information that you would like to know including our itinerary the cost and the deposit and and
so on so Please do consider taking a look at that if you're interested at all in going to Egypt this year with us.
So let's see.
I'm just going to look one last time to see if there's anything else.
And someone in the chat says they live in Luxor.
Well, that's a fabulous place to live, I have to say.
I'm good for you.
And at any rate, any closing remarks, Maria, before we let you go here?
Yes, well, I think, you know, watching the two documentaries that were put together by Neil are very worthwhile.
It gives you a good insight and a taster of lots of different sites.
So I'd recommend, you know, looking out for those and viewing those.
And if it feels right and if you feel drawn to ancient Egypt and exploring many different interpretations way, way beyond the Orthodox, then this is the tour for you.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, thank you, Maria, for visiting us here.
Absolutely.
We are so happy that this transmission came through because we did have some problems with your internet.
I guess it was a couple of weeks ago when we attempted this the last time.
We never know when we're going to get interference or not, but this seemed to go very well.
So very happy to have you here and, you know, It'll be great to see you when we go to Egypt again, and so looking forward to that.
And you do have some books out and a website, so why don't you give that information out to people?
Yeah, I've written several books that go into Earth Energies in great detail, and you can find out about those at my two websites, which is the first one is the aveburyexperience.co.uk.
That's A-V-E-B-U-R-Y. And my teach insight where I teach dowsing and tarot and some other esoteric subjects is esotericcollege.com, which is fully affiliated to the Association of British Correspondence Colleges.
Excellent.
All right.
Well, thanks so much and take care.
And I do want to say that I do an Awaken Aware conference in June every year and Maria will be speaking there this year.
So, and it's usually almost every year.
So, anyway, that'll be great.
She's a fabulous speaker, obviously.
So, take care and we'll see you soon.
Thank you, Carrie.
Goodbye.
Take care.
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