I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight.
So we have a fascinating guest which is Paladin and he has been on my show several times over the years and I think a lot of my audience know about the White Hats.
So they are the good guys behind the scenes and they are working in Sometimes they're still in government, they're in aspects of the military, they could be agents, etc.
And they work together worldwide, really, sort of a loosely knit group who are attempting to reveal Good
evening, everybody.
Hi, Carrie.
Nice to be here again.
Okay, and great to have you here.
So what I want to do is start out with an introduction as to who you are.
And so I know we put quite a few links on our page, projectcamelot.tv.
So if people want to go see more about the White Hats, if you're not familiar, they have a YouTube channel.
In fact, it's a new YouTube channel.
So I want to encourage everyone to go to my main page, which is projecthamlott.tv, and then click on the Paladin interview, and you'll get a bunch of links down below today's show.
So, Paladin, can you introduce yourself briefly?
I know this is a pain, but it's worthwhile for the new listeners.
Yes.
I have an accounting degree from an accredited university.
I have five years in the Corporate world as an auditor and a financial manager and 30-plus years as a private investigator.
And just a little background on the White Hats.
We started our reports almost, well, I guess it was nine years ago, nine years and one month ago in November of 2010.
Okay, that's it.
You're done?
Well, yes.
Okay.
Being a private investigator and having an accounting degree is a little bit unique in that typically the private investigator field are made up of people who are retired cops or retired FBI or they are people who want to investigate or get into that business but they don't want to be law enforcement.
So I've been doing that and have done About everything that a private investigator does from, you know, surveillance to, well, just all kinds of work.
I specialized in money recovery for people who got taken by trading program scams, which that's how I got introduced to that whole world, which is a whole different world that we've talked about several times.
And We all came together in 2010 and decided that we would continue Christopher's stories of the financial skullduggery that's going on in the world.
And so we started our reports in 2010, November.
And as you know, 48 was something that we sort of had stumbled across as far as the shadow government and how it was formed.
And that had to do with...
The $15 trillion that Lord James talked about in the House of Lords in February of 2012.
And the money, the $15 trillion, was supposed to go to Pureheart.
And nobody knew who Pureheart was and nobody knew who Lauren Rossier was.
So we basically went down that rabbit hole.
And as you sometimes do in this business, you get more than you bargained for.
And confirming who that person was, Lauren Rossier, we found out about the Gang of Five and Five Star Trust and the Shadow Government and all the rest.
So we were going to, as you know, put out 48 and for various reasons we didn't.
And so this summer we decided that we would put it out and rather than put it out in a written format, Because there's so much information to cover that we decided we'd do it by video.
Sometimes I don't know if that was a good decision or not because it's been a lot more work than I anticipated or realized.
And I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I know you do.
And I provide the content and it goes to then my video guy who puts everything together.
And he is...
He is very good and he's very exacting in certain things that he wants and the way he wants them from me.
So, you know, it's been the first one.
It took a little more time than what we thought, but it was a lot of going back and forth and getting used to each other.
So hopefully we will, as we go forward, and we're probably going to have, I don't know, anywhere from five to seven parts to this by the time we're finished.
Yeah.
Hopefully that we'll get faster and better and more efficient as we go forward.
I'm just testing the sound here.
So, alright, well then what I want from you is for you to talk first of all about the content in your first video release that you put out there, which has to do with 48.
Sort of sketch it out for people to entice them to go watch it.
And then we'll make the transition into what's coming so that people are sort of primed for all of that.
And 48 is a long time coming, so you might also put some background in there about that story.
Okay.
Keep me on track here.
I'll try to cover 48 episode 1 first.
Because of the time lag that we had had from the time that we announced we were going to do 48 and then we decided not to, we sort of talked about it and decided that it would be best if we did part one or episode one entailing sort of a refresher of the main aspects of the reports that we had released up to that point.
So We determined that there were three main issues that we wanted to talk about, and that was the Ed Falcone theft, the Tropos theft, and then the $15 trillion transfer.
So we basically hit those three subjects pretty hard, and then we decided that to end it, We would actually expose the Federal Reserve because they basically are the ones who run the system and are responsible for transactions through the SWIFT system,
through the ACAT systems, and various other banking infrastructure.
So we decided that we would try to emphasize the criminal element that is in the banking cartel.
So that was the reason for The first one, 48 Part 1 or Episode 1, that was the reason we did it that way.
It was to sort of give a refresher to our followers and readers up to that point and anyone who was new to sort of bring them up to speed before we actually then jumped into the actual story of what 48 originally was all about.
Now, we were going to do 48 I don't know, when was that?
In the summer of 2012?
Or maybe the fall?
Yeah, I'm trying to remember actually, but I do have it dated on my website somewhere.
I can search for it.
And so anyway, we were going to do it.
We had gathered the information, and once we had identified who Rossier was, and we identified the history of him...
That took us down a rabbit hole that produced all kinds of things that gave us, you know, the roadmap to the deep state, the shadow government, whatever you want to call them.
And so we were going to do 48 and, you know, we got part of it done.
Part of it was done.
There was a lot of links.
There's a lot of information.
It's You know, it originally was going to cover about 50 or 60 years.
Now we're going to take it back a little bit further to probably maybe 80 years just to kind of give a foundation for it and then bring it forward so that it makes sense today so that everybody can understand where we are and how deeply entrenched they are in our government and, well, in our everyday life, basically.
So, and I have written about this a couple of times.
I don't know if we still have it up on the website about, I think I wrote something about 48, was called About 48, and I discussed some of the things that we were going through and some of the decisions that we had to make, and we were threatened.
We got threats.
Back then, we had some threats.
You better not release it.
You better not release it.
So, that Factored into the decision to hold off a little bit.
Not very much, but it did factor in a little bit.
I mean, that was just one of the four or five different things that we had to consider.
And we just decided that we, because the timing and what some other members of the team were doing at that particular time, which you're aware of, we just decided to table it.
But we did always promise that we would eventually come out with 48.
So, Fast forward to today's times and given what's going on now, I think people now are more receptive to what we have to say because I think they're, based on what we've been going through the last three years since Trump got elected, love him or hate him, I think the deep state and the shadow government have really revealed themselves.
And so now I think Anyone who views our material will be more receptive to what we have to say.
I think that's a good point.
I also want to say that I released Black Projects Follow the Money back in those days, and I looked it up.
What I have is November of 2012.
So I think you were supposed to release your report, right, simultaneous with mine, and mine was going to accompany yours in some form or fashion.
And that didn't happen because of, as you say, the threats you got.
So what has changed your mind about the threats?
Do you feel that you have sort of more people in your camp at this time?
Is that why you're willing to go forward?
Well, I think that's part of it.
And I think the other part of it is, I think those of us who have been working on this project for the last 10 years feel like it's kind of now or never.
This is the best situation.
This is probably, if timing is everything, then this is probably the best time to do it.
Okay, so now or never because?
I mean, can you elaborate?
Well, I think because this information that we're going to put out, and everybody, it will be self-explanatory once we put it out there.
People will understand the impact that it will have.
And hopefully we will have everybody's assistance in trying to get this out everywhere so that we will be protected to a certain degree because, as you well know, it's okay to talk about things, but when you start releasing documents, it's a whole other story.
That's very true.
Documents is a huge issue.
And so that is what your area of expertise really is, isn't it?
And this is the kind of thing where in the past they kind of let other people, even people like me, get by interviewing people like Let's say Captain Mark Richards because there's always what they call plausible deniability, especially when there's no documentation.
And very interestingly, when he writes to me, I don't ever get anything to the degree that I get in person.
So actually, I hardly write to him because I can't get answers to the kind of questions I really want answers to.
So I have to go there in person.
So in your case...
You're talking now, and you're making videos, but you have the documentation to back it up.
Do you want to explain a bit more about that, why you have the documentation?
Well, you know, we usually don't reveal sources and methods, but let's just say that we have a lot of people in a lot of different places that have access to this information, and once they realize that there is a conduit to get it out into the public, Then the floodgates or, you know, the system, the network sort of opens up and that information flows pretty freely.
So, and, you know, this kind of takes us into the white hats, black hats thing.
And I don't know if I want to bring this up or not, but I guess I will.
In, you know, our business, if you will, or our area, it's not...
You work for the FBI or the CIA or NSA or whoever it is.
That doesn't paint you as good or bad.
It's whether you wear a white hat or a black hat.
That's how you're identified.
So that means something to us or to the people that we're exposing.
It may not mean a whole lot to the general audience, but it does mean something to the people that we're exposing.
A lot of our reports, and I think I wrote this in our About Us section, and I think I put this in one of the reports, that our audience, in order of priority, was the people who are committing these crimes, the perpetrators, first.
Second was the people, the government officials, law enforcement, who have the power and the authority to do something about it.
And then the third was, you know, the general audience.
So that was sort of the order of priority.
We wanted them to know that we knew what was going on.
So that was the reason that we started these.
And our reports are written that way, to expose them.
You know, some of this stuff may not be very clear to everyone, but it was clear to them.
And there were times when I would get a call at 5 o'clock and saying, we're going to put out a report tonight.
I would get the information.
We would go through it.
We'd type it up.
We'd vet it.
We'd check it.
We'd have everybody approve it.
And then we'd put it out by, you know, 8, 9, 10 o'clock that night because it was fresh information.
It was information that had, it was, you know, information about events that had taken place that particular day.
And we wanted them to know that we knew what was going on and to prove it, we were going to put it out.
So there were some hectic days, I can tell you, getting some of those reports out.
Okay, so when people were looking to target you, it is interesting because you actually have members from all around the world, don't you, feeding you information, and some of these people, for example, may have access to information of what's going on in the United States, but they're actually not inside the United States, they're outside, and you and I have had A couple sources in common.
And I can say that there's a lot of misunderstanding as to the amounts of money that we're talking about and why this...
I don't know if you call it off-book money, but you certainly trading program money...
That goes then into black projects, which is something even Catherine Austin Fitz has talked about, but she has her, I believe she has her money, the amount of money wrong.
And I was given some very interesting information along those lines saying that it was actually in the billions per week.
Which is even far and above what you're getting.
And so that was from a high-level source.
So there's a lot of misunderstanding as to why tracking the money is so important, why what you do is so important, and why the powers that be, so to speak, or whoever you want to call them, Are so worried about it.
And you might also talk to whether you think the Trump administration is on your side or not.
Okay.
I think that there is a big misconception out there about the whole financial situation.
There is a lot more money in the system than what people can imagine.
Some of these accounts, the white spiritual boy accounts and the spiritual white boy accounts, People have seen, if you go Google that, you'll probably find the list.
I think Alcuin and Flutterby maybe is the website who has put those out.
But they've just put out a list of the accounts, and some of those accounts have a lot of zeros behind them.
And it just blows people's minds.
But most of those accounts are off balance sheet, and that means that they're not accounted for on a bank's financial statement.
The problem with this whole area is that people have their own idea or perspective about what the banking system is all about.
The general public know about 10% of the total picture.
We are attempting to try to bring out that information to show people what is really It's a really difficult task for us because it's a very complicated, sophisticated situation where what we've been told is not the truth.
To get us to the point where we can explain it to people, you sort of, to a certain degree, have to throw out a lot of the information that you've grown up to know or been told about the system because it's completely different.
This is like everything else, of course.
But the financial system is complicated, it's sophisticated, and I think that's for a reason.
It's to get everybody to just throw up their hands and say, I can't figure it out, and just accept it.
But it is the way that they control the world.
I mean, that's basically what it boils down to.
Okay, so my last question was whether you think the Trump administration is behind you, and a lot of people are asking about Q, so QAnon, so let me throw that in there as well so you can comment on the Trump administration, Q, who might be doing Q, and whether they're up to speed with you guys either.
Also, that would be a good one to know.
Okay, the situation with Trump is that Trump, yes, Trump is aware of A lot of the things, I mean, in episode one, I showed the email that we sent to Romney's fundraiser and his backers in Utah.
And Trump knows about the Falcone situation.
He knows about the $15 trillion situation.
He knows about the Riotti situation as far as the trading programs and him not getting paid.
I mean, Trump is aware of these things.
So is he on our side?
Yeah, I believe he is.
Although I don't think people really have a grasp of the magnitude of the situation that he's dealing with.
So that's the part that hopefully we can try to help with.
Because if we can get the information out, we can show people where this started and how well entrenched these people are.
And Episode 2 will attempt to do that, you know, in addition to what we've already covered.
Now, as far as Q goes, gosh, you know, I'm going to get, no matter what I say, I'm going to get blasted for this.
So what I will say is this.
I think a lot of the information that Q puts out is accurate.
I think a lot of the information that Q reveals in their research of going back into history and showing things...
That have happened in the past and how they are going to affect future events, hopefully, because I think a lot of it is predictive.
And that is always a bad road to go down, in my opinion, because, you know, we've got free will and the future, I don't think, is quite set.
So I think that that's always a problem.
I think Q is very reliable in information as far as giving information.
Raw information, because there has been so many things that Q has come out with that we know, as White Hats, is accurate.
But where Q has gotten into some tricky places is where they try to predict which way it's going to go or what's going to happen, and they've been wrong.
And I think one big area or one example I could give was about Jeff Sessions, about Trust Sessions and I think there was even some talk that Mueller is actually on our side and he is doing this investigation.
This gives him the ability to go in and get all the information on Hillary and expose what she was doing and all that stuff.
That wasn't accurate.
Neither one of those predictions turned out to be true.
I think Q is good as far as putting out information because the information that Q puts out About what goes on in the shadows has been pretty much accurate.
And when Q gets into the predictive, fortune-telling area, that's when I think Q goes off the rails.
And I think they should stick to just giving information.
Because that's better.
I mean, I think that's more impactful.
Because I think when you start trying to predict what's going to happen...
You get into trouble and you will lose credibility if you call it wrong and Q has called it wrong a few times and I think that has affected credibility and I think Q should just stick with the facts because I think they've released a lot of good information and they predicted all the Epstein stuff.
I mean, my gosh, they put out a bunch of Epstein stuff and I think that has proven to be accurate And a lot of people, or some people, have compared us to Q in regards to that facet of what Q does, that we have put out information that people don't know about, but that is true and accurate.
And I think Q's done the same thing.
But getting into the fortune-telling area, I think, is a place that Q shouldn't go and has proven to be inaccurate in a lot of cases.
Okay, well, I'm not sure when you can claim something is inaccurate unless they gave like dates or something.
But there may be some things in the offing that haven't happened yet.
And, you know, I don't know what that laundry list might look like.
But I just want to say that as a footnote to what you're saying.
But I agree wholeheartedly in terms of predicting anything.
I mean, everyone knows sort of Even my colleagues in this sector have been notorious for being wrong.
And everyone who writes to me is often wrong.
It doesn't mean they'll never...
You know, you're going to be wrong sometime because the clock eventually will come around to, you know, 12 midnight or whatever it is.
But, yeah, it's interesting how often people are wrong.
And I'm not going to continue that.
But at any rate...
So in terms of the composition of your group, are you supported behind the scenes by what would be considered not only Trump, but would you say the White Hats in, let's say, the Navy and the various armed services?
Do you feel that you have support in those sectors?
Yes, we do.
Okay.
And obviously, you're not going to name names, but does that give you courage to do what you're going to be doing now, going out with 48 when you've been told not to?
Yeah, it does.
It does.
I mean, if they want to get you, they'll get you no matter who you are, what you are, how much light you've got on you, if it gets to the point where it's a problem.
But yeah, it is sort of...
I guess it...
It allows us to sleep a little bit better at night.
But it also, I think, is the camaraderie that you get from that.
It encourages you to continue the work because you know that there are a lot of people on the sidelines that are cheering you on and that are helping you in the ways that they can help you.
And I think that's encouraging because I think when we started this, we didn't have that.
And I think now that Trump's gotten into office, I think that's changed quite a bit.
And that's, you know, one of the reasons that we're coming out with 48.
All right.
And just so people understand, when you're saying you're going to come out with 48 and you've already sort of set the scene, you told me that part two is going to concern the past, what sounds like the past to me.
But it sounds like the 48 is going to be quite a number of YouTube videos, right?
So you're going to set the scene through history, it sounds like.
Is that right?
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay.
We're going to go back to the beginning, what we've identified as the beginning, and then we're going to follow it through, because I think if you try to attack it in midstream, There's going to be a lot of the foundation stuff that if you don't include, it's going to be hard for people to follow it once you get into the story because it's a tentacle.
The tentacles go every place.
As you know, you know what I'm talking about.
Well, yes, I do.
And I'm wondering, you know, because I'm always interested in the tentacles specifically that go underground.
Off-planet, etc.
And there's kind of a push comes to shove, or I'm not sure how you would view it, but an issue with what you're revealing.
Because on the one hand, we are fighting the good fight to get humanity to take control of this planet, take back control of the planet.
But at the same time, In revealing some of this stuff, it's revealing the hands of the cabal, the splits at the very top of the Illuminati, and there's going to be some issue with that, if you ever get it to the very highest ranks, etc.
People might be curious, what is your endgame?
What do you want to see come out of this work that you're doing?
Well, I think...
I think the objective is to, number one, inform everybody of what has really been going on above the surface, I guess.
And two, to then hopefully they will be more educated, they will be more informed, and they will be able to go out and do whatever it takes to get the Republic back to create a world in which we all, I think, want to live in.
The way it is now, it's just a complete and total disaster.
And I'm one of those that just feels like I'm free.
I'm a free person.
And I just think all these infringes on my rights.
And it's not only here in the U.S., but it's all over the world.
So this sort of is a worldly kind of thing.
And I think Trump has created a An environment or an atmosphere where he sort of sets the tone for the rest of the world because he's not a politician, that's for sure.
He is anything but a politician.
He's sort of a wrecking ball to this whole situation.
And I think that we have to remember that we have him outnumbered, and that is our advantage, and we have to use that advantage so that we can fight back.
And I think part of that is informing people of what the truth is.
Because that's the reason that things are the way they are, because this cabal, this shadow government, this deep state, has kept us all in the dark.
And the best example that I could give currently is the surveillance that they did on Trump.
You know, I watched the Horowitz hearing today, and...
They talked about, you know, what it takes to get a FISA warrant and what all they did to surveil Trump and Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
And the thing of it is, guys, they do this all the time.
That's how they get politicians in their hip pocket.
Okay?
Because they blackmail them.
They get information on them and then they blackmail them.
And they pay them off.
And so the representatives that go to Congress, both Both sides of the aisle, in both houses, the House of Representatives and the Senate, they don't work for us, they work for the cabal.
And it's just that simple.
And we have to understand that and we have to do something about that and it's got to start from the grassroots.
Okay, fair enough.
And who, in your opinion, is running the cabal right now?
Do you know of any particular individual now that George Bush Sr.
is theoretically dead?
Yeah, I mean, I've got confirmation that that is accurate.
There's a lot of stories about how that all came down and the same thing with John McCain.
Who is running the cabal?
Well, it appears as if they have moved Obama up since Bush passed away.
George Soros, of course.
I mean, it's the bankers.
It's the Illuminati.
It's the 30 families.
It's the bloodlines.
It's still those people.
The people like Soros, though, are in a position where they have the access to the funds and they're actually, you know, they're paying people to do certain things.
They're paying people to be disruptive.
They're, you know, sponsoring all these lunatic people.
I could go on for days about what they're doing as far as the funding because it all revolves around the money and that's where it gets back to and that's why we are concentrating on the money because the money is the way they control all of us because we have to have money to pay our rent and eat and everything else and so they are able to do that through their financial system that they created and they control.
And what we tried to do in Episode 1 was to show the people who are, you know, Tropos got $700 billion stolen out of the system, okay?
And none of us have probably $700 billion.
I don't.
But how would you feel if you wanted to send $700 billion, you wanted to do a transfer from one place to another, and it got lost in the system, and there is no one in the world that you can go to to get satisfaction?
Same thing with Falcone.
Falcone wanted to rebuild New Orleans after Katrina, wanted to rebuild the inner city of Miami after a hurricane there.
He put $350 million into a trading program and they stole it from him and they stole the proceeds.
They're still making money off the proceeds.
There is not one person in this world, not one court, not one law enforcement agency that you can go to to get satisfaction.
I know a lot of people look at those things and they say, well, that was a rich guy, so who cares?
But that is an example of what they can do to every single person on this planet through their control of the financial system.
Right.
Now, what about the, can you talk at all, you know, and maybe you're not looking into this, but what's going on with this Ukraine, Biden and his son situation?
Because that also is very convoluted, but at the same time, there's definitely something there.
And it does relate to money.
I don't know if you follow that situation at all, but do you have anything to say about that?
Because the whole stupid impeachment thing is just blown up over this Biden situation.
Haven't you researched Biden as part of your list of people and found him to be wanting on some level?
Well, I don't.
And what we have released so far in our reports, Biden, you know, Falcone went to Biden to try to get help.
And so Biden starts asking around about, hey, this guy, you know, comes to me, lost $350 million, he put it in a trading program, he's not getting paid, he can't get his money back.
And so Bush got wind of it, and he went to Hillary and say, okay, you know, you need to go to Biden, and this is when Hillary was Secretary of State, you need to go to Biden, you need to fix this.
And so tell him that we'll give him $200 million to shut his mouth.
And so that's what he did.
But to answer the question about Ukraine, this is just one example of how the senators and congressmen go to Washington, D.C. They have a net worth of maybe $200,000.
They make $175,000 a year to work, you know, three months, I guess, if that, out of the year.
And, you know, 10 years later, their net worth is $50 million.
Now, how does that happen?
Well, this is how it happens.
Because you're in the government, so you have, you are essentially like a caretaker of the money, if you will.
All the money that goes into the government through taxes, taxation.
I mean, we get, I don't know how many different taxes we pay now, from income tax to property tax to everything.
So, All that money goes into the government and they are the caretakers of that money.
So they get to determine where it goes.
And just like Biden says at that taped meeting for the foreign, what was that, trilateral commission or whatever it was, whatever the shadow government group that he was speaking in front of, he says, well, I told him that if they fire the prosecutor, we'll give him the billion dollars.
Well, it's not his billion dollars.
It's our billion dollars.
That's our billion dollars that he used to coerce Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was looking into his son and the business dealings of Burisma.
But this is just one example of the way it works everywhere.
Imagine what it's been like for China.
China is a new economy that we've jumped into with both feet.
And how many sweet deals do you think they have gotten from China?
See, Trump, with these trade deals, Trump is trying to undo this.
And I wish he wouldn't say they were stupid deals because they weren't stupid deals.
They were done on purpose to destroy this country.
And in the meantime, when they destroy this country, people like Biden and Obama and Bush and the cabal are getting rich off of it because they're funneling money, our taxpayer money, To Ukraine or to China, and they're getting money coming back from them as payoffs for the business deals that they're doing.
I mean, I don't know if anybody's ever seen a list of the money that we give away to other countries, but it would make you sick.
And it's our money.
It's not their money.
It's not Biden's money.
It's not Obama's money.
It wasn't Clinton's money or Bush's money.
It was our money.
So that's how they enriched themselves.
Right.
So the Ukraine situation is just one example of the way in which they do that.
I'm telling you, there's going to be more stuff coming out on Biden more.
Okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised about that.
But I think some people out there will be.
Okay, so now let's kind of set the scene.
So when you're going to go into 48, tell people why they should watch.
You're kind of laying this out step by step, if I understand it.
So why are you doing it like that?
And do you think that People are going to be able to follow you through, I guess, a litany of different video releases.
The video releases, I assume, are all going to have a paper trail that you will display on your website.
Is that right?
Yes.
Yes, we will have a paper trail for everything that we put out.
Documents, witness interviews that have already been out there.
It's sort of like All the information is out there.
We're just going to connect the dots and support that with some of the documents that we have to show.
And we've got so many documents, it's unbelievable.
So that's our approach.
And we realize that it's a very sophisticated area to get into, so we are trying to make it as understandable as we can And we feel like going in chronological sequence will help with, like I said, laying the foundation so that people understand how these things all developed.
Because it's coordinated.
It's a very coordinated effort.
And I've said this before, that these people plan out things 50 and 100 years in advance.
And what are we doing?
We're here in the second week in December, planning out two weeks for Christmas and what we're going to do for New Year's.
And they're looking out, you know, 50 and 100 years.
So it's going to be, hopefully, it will be an education process to where they can wake up and look around and see what we're talking about and experience it for themselves.
Because it's one thing just to say it and have them listen to the information or read the information.
It's another thing for them to actually go and experience it themselves.
And I've said this before, you know, some people get into court and they realize that court isn't what they thought or they get into the medical situation where they have, you know, a problem medically and things don't work like they thought they were going to work or a banking situation.
So, you know, they see little snippets of the big of the big picture, but they have to understand.
And this is what we're trying to going to try to get them to do that.
This is all connected.
All of it is orchestrated.
So that's going to be the goal.
Whether we're able to accomplish that or not, I don't know, but we are taking great care in trying to sort through what we think is relevant and meaningful to the reader and what isn't.
And it's really hard to do that when you know the information, yet you have to kind of step back a little bit and say, okay, how can we present this in an understandable manner so that everybody will We'll see what we're trying to say and what's really going on.
And that's the challenge with trying to do this.
Okay, well, let me ask you this because, you know, I know bits and pieces behind the scenes, and I want to know if you're going to be revealing not only the sort of emergence of the cabal, which I assume that's going to be something about the Kennedy assassination coming in your next report, etc., but also the hand of the British.
In this game.
And things like, we're talking about trading programs that are involved with, you know, Sukarno and Suharto and, you know, I mean...
All of the different parties that you've covered, because you didn't just start yesterday.
Like you said, you've been going, I don't remember how many years you've been doing this now, but you have plenty.
I assume all that paper is still on your site, right?
For everything you've done in the past, I don't know, 10 years?
Yeah, 9 years, yeah.
We started in November of 2010.
So...
The paper trail, it's there.
You know, the money hidden, some of it, which may be still hidden in the Philippines or not.
Some might be off-planet.
Some might be who knows where.
Not in the Federal Reserve, certainly.
You know, and so you've got this huge amount of stuff that you already did put out there.
And strangely, there was like hardly a ripple there.
There was threats, I know, bandied around, but from what we know.
So, in other words, are you going to reveal the hands that are involved in it today?
And do you expect there to be, I don't know, issues?
Is somebody going to go to jail?
Is the Federal Reserve going to feel threatened by this information that you're putting out?
What do you think?
Well, I think what it amounts to is Trump and the DOJ and maybe the FBI and law enforcement going to follow up on it and do something about it.
I think that's what it amounts to.
And, you know, hopefully they will.
I mean, all we can do is put it out there.
We can give them all the ammunition that they need to prosecute and put these people in jail and get rid of the Federal Reserve.
Whether they're going to do that or not, we don't know, but we feel like this is the best chance.
Like I said, we feel like it's now or never.
Okay.
Again, can you elaborate a little bit more?
Are you worried about Trump not staying in office and things turning against you when you say now or never?
Yes, yes.
I think, yeah, because as I've said before, I mean, they have been trying to get Trump out of office before he even took the oath of office in In January of 2017, it started with the recounts in three or four states.
Then it started with the Electoral College.
And it's been going on since then.
I mean, because they realize that he is going to change things.
And I think that he needs a second term.
We need to give him a second term.
They know that if he gets a second term, they're all in big trouble.
I mean, this is why you see This desperation that you see with this impeachment.
And this has all been to head off Uber and Durham and Barr's investigation into all this FISA abuse.
I mean, you know, it's interesting.
Horowitz came out with his report and Barr and Durham said, well, it's worse than what you think.
And they're looking at it criminally.
And, you know, it's hard to say where this can go.
But I think Trump needs a second term because once he has a second term, he doesn't have to worry about re-election.
He has to worry about getting rid of these criminals that are infiltrated in every part of our society, especially in the government.
And I think once that gets going, I think that it will spread to other countries and When it spreads to other countries, because I think all the rest of the world looks to the United States to be the leader for freedom and for, you know, all those things.
And we have been a disgrace to the rest of the world for so many years because, you know, we go over and we invade countries and we take them over.
Then we bring our corporations in and give them, you know, all the benefits of this.
And it's all on the taxpayer dollar and the taxpayer lives as far as our military goes.
Right, okay, so in terms of where this could go, are you, I mean, for example, This would require some kind of possibly civil war.
I mean, I don't understand how all of this sort of system can, you know, it's just going to keep rolling on.
There are so many people that have a vested interest at the top.
So revealing the information is one thing.
And I'm sort of on board with that sort of thing, obviously.
But what I wonder is, and this, you know, we kind of touched on already, is that act, take an action, how action can be taken.
And like you said, well, if Trump Is going to be behind all of that.
Let's use an example.
Let's talk about the Epstein case.
Because I know you followed that.
And the trail, again, has led to black projects, actually.
And especially the one in New Mexico.
And certainly child trafficking, etc.
I mean, it's a big story.
But the question is whether or not that ship is not going anywhere either.
You know, the information was revealed, but it was only the tip of the iceberg.
It was cleansed because certainly Epstein dealt with children much younger than 14, etc.
And so, you know, as well as boys, as well, you know, I mean, there was a lot of things they never touched on with regard to Epstein.
and the trains in New Mexico, and so on.
So underground bases, I mean, all of these things.
So what would you say?
I mean, is this being acted on?
Do you believe behind the scenes, these stories that we hear that, you know, people are being arrested and so on?
That I'm not sure about.
I have not heard any confirmations, although I have heard snippets here and there that, you know, people have been arrested and taken to But, you know, you have to understand these people are, you know, they're satanic.
They're satanic people.
So there is nothing that they won't do to stay in power.
And so when you look at someone like Barr, I mean, I always wonder, is he getting threats?
Is he getting threats to his family?
And so if you're the Attorney General of the United States and you have the authority to To arrest these people and you get a phone call at midnight some night and they say, you know, you better back off of this or you're not going to see your family tomorrow or the next day or whenever.
I mean, what do you do?
You know, and this is the way they operate.
I mean, this is actually the way it goes.
So our hope is that we can get a grassroots level of people who are aware of what's going on and it becomes, you know, the Like it hits critical mass at some point, and everybody knows what's going on, and they start holding all these people accountable, and things will change.
But we have to hit critical mass.
We have to have a certain amount of people who are aware, and not only aware, but are willing to do something about it to affect change.
And I have to be careful here what I say, because I'm...
I'm not saying overthrow the government or anything like that.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You just have to be in these...
I know, but action can be taken by the government, by a portion of our government, which has already happened.
In other words, I think some people would say there's no way Trump would even be in power today if action wasn't taken by a certain...
portion of our military behind the scenes, and you and I both have proof of that.
So that's the kind of thing we're really talking about, and whether or not the cabal as it's been constituted has any future may be up to some of these groups as well to allow them to continue to do what they're doing To allow the plundering,
for example, via things like Uranium One, selling California lands and underground areas to China, allowing the infiltration of the United States and taking away the farms from the farmers and so on.
I mean, they're operating on many...
Many levels, as you were already sort of hinting earlier.
So these are the areas where they have to be exposed.
And this goes back to Bundy Ranch and, of course, back in history as well.
So this is the kind of thing that we're really talking about.
And whether we're going to see any change down the line, I mean, people do.
One can understand people can be threatened.
And that can go on.
However, if there were enough people to turn the tide, then perhaps threatening wouldn't work as well.
So this is the kind of thing.
What we hope is that there's a critical mass, as you said, especially behind the scenes with regard to what we think of as white hats and what you guys call yourselves.
In other words, people that are not sitting by anymore to allow this plundering to continue of the United States, first of all, but also, you know, of our children, etc., etc.
But it's a slow train and...
Just in regard to the debacle having to do with vaccines and how they're trying to force our children in schools to have vaccines.
Already these kinds of things seem to be able to continue and the future looks pretty grim in some of those cases.
Yeah, that's a perfect example.
I mean, if parents would just stand up and say, I am not...
I'm not going to vaccinate my children, and if you are not going to allow them to come to school, then I'll just homeschool them.
And there won't be any schools, okay?
There won't be any of these schools because the schools, I mean, yeah, that's a good subject because the schools and the university system is nothing but a training ground to put our children through To the point where once they come out at 21 or 22 or 18 or 17, they are completely indoctrinated into the system.
And that's what it's all about.
And the vaccinations is an excellent example of that.
So I think that we have to just say enough is enough.
And the money is...
I have this fantasy that We do a walkout or we do a callout or whatever you want to call it where you say, okay, for the next week, nobody go to work.
Okay?
Nobody go to work.
And yes, I know you won't get a paycheck.
I realize all those things.
But who is going to be hurt in the long run more?
You or them?
Because they depend on us for everything.
And think about that.
They depend on us.
and our compliance or their whole system would collapse in a matter of days.
Let's say AI aside, but yeah, I appreciate that.
It's...
It is fascinating.
And certainly the reptilian side will, you know, because they feed off our energy.
So these are things, what you give your energy to is what they can use.
And that's all part of it.
So, you know, it's a huge sort of endeavor that you guys are involved in.
And kudos for having sort of stayed the path All these years, because I know it hasn't been easy.
And I am curious if, for example, you have seen a change in the tide.
Like you said, in the early days, you didn't have a lot of But have you seen, like, maybe more recently even, since Trump has gotten in office, but aside from Trump, I'm talking, you know, from overseas places, overseas, etc.
In other words, I think the whole world is getting a sort of a grip now and realizing that we're in this together and that, you know, that there is a plot and that, you know, Conspiracy theorists absolutely bring them on because this is what we're talking.
This is a conspiracy, okay, of mega proportions.
And so pulling it apart, revealing the conspiracy, this is what it's all about and so important.
The Democrats are making up conspiracies when real conspiracies are really staring us in the face.
This is quite amazing.
Looking towards that future, do you see any city bright spots in terms of people that are coming to work With you, and obviously you're not going to name who those people are.
I'm not asking you to do that, but I am asking, are you seeing in terms of countries in the world, is there a change, a sea change, I'm sort of asking, you know what I mean, in support?
Yes, and it's probably not noticeable at this point in time, but there was, and it's interesting how since I've Since we kind of reconvened in a sense to put together 48 and determine that we're going to put it out and then gather the information and,
you know, go through that process as far as how we're going to do it, there have been a lot of new faces brought to the table from the standpoint of, you know, people in the network that were always there, but now that we are actually doing this, they are coming to the fore, they are coming...
And saying, okay, how can we help?
And can we give you information?
And that kind of thing.
So what we're seeing is other places, it's like, I hate to use this term, but it's, you know, there's a lot of white hats embedded everywhere.
We're almost like sleeper agents.
They are in a position to do the right thing to make sure things don't go off track, if that makes sense.
And since we've been going through this exercise for 48, I have been told that the trigger point for all of this, and this was, it really goes, we've talked about the Trump meeting in Trump Tower in, I think, 2015 with Flynn and Dumford and those guys, and But I have since learned that this, actually, the trigger point was the attempt on JFK Jr.
back in, when was it, 1997 or 98 or 99, whenever that was.
That was the trigger point where they said, okay, guys, we have got to do something about this.
Right.
That actually is giving me chills, which means it's true.
So, I, you know, yeah.
Yeah, let me finish.
Just so that When I learned that, because, you know, I had already, I mean, I had in my head, I sort of knew in my head, and as you know, putting together a video, you have it in your head, and you got to make it reality, so you translate it into a video.
But it was always a dedication to Kennedy.
You know, it was always, that was, that was always one of the things that we were going to do.
It was always going to be dedicated to Kennedy, because Kennedy gave his life To try to keep us from all this.
And so when I heard that, I just kind of smiled and I said, you know, we're going to dedicate this to Kennedy.
And they're like, really?
And I said, yeah.
So it's kind of one of those serendipitous moments that you have where you know that you're on the right track.
So I was told that a few months ago.
And, you know, that makes sort of a difference in In that you know that sort of the tide started to turn 20 years ago.
It's taken us this long to see any changes to that.
Right.
Okay.
Fair enough.
And so I don't know whether you even want to go in this direction, but are you one of those people who believe that JFK Jr.
is still alive and standing by?
Do you want to sort of approach that or not?
Oh, gosh.
I wish you wouldn't have brought that up.
Okay, I'll...
I asked you to go easy on me for a reason, and you're obviously not going to do that.
No, no.
I like to play with you.
Listen, I told you, if you don't want to answer it, I mean, you're fine.
Just say, you know, you hope so, but you don't know.
Well, okay.
I have been informed...
By several people that he is still alive.
Now, do I think he is?
I don't know.
I have not seen him.
I have not talked to him, so I don't know.
And I've heard two different versions of the plane crash, which sort of, that sort of concerns me and gives me pause to believe that he is still alive, only because I've heard two different versions of how that went down, because me being like I am, that's the first question I ask.
It's about, okay, what about the plane?
Did it go down?
Did it not go down?
And what about his wife and her sister?
Because when you talk about him, you have to include his wife and his sister, because his wife and his sister were in that plane crash.
But I have been told that he is still alive, and I don't know whether that's true or not, and I'm Let me be clear, I am not saying that that is true, but I have heard that, and I have also heard that he is going, because I've asked the question, okay, so Trump gets another term, what are we going to do in 2024?
Well, that's the answer to that question.
Well, I mean, obviously those of us who have heard these things have Yeah, I haven't even gotten any clear intel on this level, but I certainly, I'm a person who would just say, I hope so.
That would be really awesome, and for a number of reasons, that he and, you know, his wife and his sister, I mean her sister, would be alive, because that was just one more indicator of You know,
the reach and the diabolical character of these individuals, how far they can go to really destroy our sort of hope in the future, certainly of this country, and other things going on right now in other countries as well.
So in terms of the hitman, I'm trying to remember.
You know what I'm saying, that financial hitman guy?
Perkins?
Yeah, and the stories that he told and what's really going on even to this day in these other countries.
And I think that the plundering is continuing.
And I can only think that I have been told, actually, that there are resources in Ukraine that they want to get their hands on.
And that's the whole reason for any of this craziness, believe it or not, not even just impeachment.
That's sort of a side issue.
I mean, these are the kinds of things we hear.
And there's more behind the scenes with that because there are a lot of parts.
It could be a distraction with other parts of the Baltic area and Crimea, for example, and technology that's also hidden under the ground in Antarctica and so-and-so.
In other words, money, they are trying to get their hands on this stuff wherever it is and wherever it happens to be.
Hidden, mostly probably even underground.
But in terms of resources, I've heard Romania has a huge amount of gold.
I think I might have communicated that to you.
That came from a certain place.
And so on.
And so, you know what I'm saying?
It does come back to the money.
And there's so much...
Hidden, still.
I mean, I know you're revealing a certain, you know, pattern, but are you going to get into things like, you know, the money in Indonesia, the, you know, the hidden money, the so-called Chinese money, the gold here on the planet, and things of that nature?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Do you want to say anything about that?
Yeah.
Well, that's going to be in Parts 3 and Parts 4.
We're going to talk about the Black Eagle Trust.
We're going to talk about the Five Star Trust.
We're going to talk about the Philippines.
Because a lot of this, as you know, originated after World War II. I'll just give a little teaser, but it actually started in the 1930s when Smedley Butler revealed to Congress that he had been approached by To stage a coup to install a fascist government in the United States.
That's actually when it started.
And to get back to the resources, anything that we do overseas, it's always about the resources.
I mean this goes back to the tripod of London being the financial center, Rome being the spiritual center, and the United States being the military.
And that's why we have bases in, I don't know how many, 900 bases all over the world.
And that's why, because we install our military over there to guard the corporation's assets while they go in and plunder other countries' natural resources.
I mean, that's exactly what that's for.
And so, I think once those other countries see that Trump is trying to pull our troops out, Trump is doing things different, I think it gives them encouragement to try to do things Things to change their own country because the rest of the world, you know, we see everything through our own, you know, lens here in the United States, but it's a lot different in other countries.
And we are, we have become the bad guys.
We have become the bad guys all over the world because of that.
And I want to, I want to get this out.
So, okay, go ahead, go ahead.
And then I'll, I want to, there's something I want to say.
No, continue.
Go ahead.
I don't need to ask you any more questions at this moment.
Okay.
In doing episode – in working on episode two, as you well know, Kennedy, the Kennedy thing, I've been on it since the day it happened.
And so we were going to do – episode two was going to be about a 30-minute expose, and we were going to kind of highlight the two people who we know were directly involved with that of the gang of five, which would be Bush, Lansdale, Colby, Ferrara – And Armitage.
We were going to go that route.
And then I thought, you know, if we're going to do this, let's do it right.
And so I tried to determine what was going to be relevant to today.
So I looked this up, and do you know that there were 80% of the people the world population was not around when he was assassinated?
So that means only 20% of us were around now, you know, that were around then.
We've watched this.
There was the Warren Commission report that got debunked almost as soon as everybody was able to read the 26 volumes.
Then we have the House Assassinations Committees in the late 1970s that basically came out with say there's a 95% probability that he was killed as a result of conspiracy, but they never did anything.
There was no investigations conducted after that.
There was nothing done.
So As I'm getting ready to, you know, we're going through Episode 2 and putting this together.
Have you ever read Operation Northwoods?
No, I haven't.
But I've heard of it.
Yeah, okay.
And I have too.
It's like a legend, you know.
And we all get the cliff notes, you know, as we were going to, you know, do false flags to provoke Cuba, right?
into attacking us so we have a reason to go down to Cuba.
So as I'm going through the preparation for episode 2 on the JFK assassination, I'm thinking to myself, okay, there's 80% of the people who are going to be seeing this that were not around and didn't go through everything that you and I did as far as watching the evolution of this to the point where the 20% of the people who are around now, I would say 95% of us know that He was not killed by Oswald.
Yet that's what they've reverted back to and are saying that the Warren Commission is accurate.
So anyway, I'm going to highlight three specific events that happened.
I'm going to highlight the Bay of Pigs.
I'm going to look at Operation Northwoods.
And I'm going to look at the missiles that were in Cuba.
Okay, so I got out Operation Northwoods.
I read that document the other day.
And do you know, well, this probably won't surprise you, it did surprise me, but they had drones back in 1962.
That figures.
And it says that in the Northwoods document.
Wow, yeah, cool.
That they had drones, and one of their false flags was to fake an aircraft being shot down over Cuba...
And they were going to have a submarine or a light surface vessel 20 miles off the coast of Cuba who was going to put debris in the water so that rescue ships could come and find that debris.
So they could say, well, Cuba shot down one of our planes.
And they had four or five different plans that they wanted to implement.
And the thing of it is, they talk about what they were going to do, but they also talk about the psychological effect that they wanted to create with the American people.
They wanted to get us all fired up, just like 9-11.
When they told us that Bin Laden did it, all of us were ready to enlist in the military so we could go kill those Bad boys over in Afghanistan or wherever they were hiding out in the caves, right?
So this was the same kind of thing.
Well, Kennedy rejected it outright and basically fired the Joint Chiefs of Staff at that point, Lyman Lemnitzer, and got rid of him.
And this is what created the missiles to be in Cuba and Because Russia probably, Cuba knew, Castro knew that we were trying to get rid of him, and he probably went to Russia and said, hey, help us.
So they put the missiles in Cuba.
So what these nuts did was they created a situation where we were almost, our country was almost destroyed by nuclear missiles because the CIA and the mob were upset because when Castro came in in 59, he threw them all out.
He closed the casinos and threw all those guys out and nationalized all the companies that were American companies who were down there pillaging the natural resources.
And that document is only 15 pages, but it is unbelievable.
They were going to fake funerals.
They were going to fake funerals.
So, what I'm saying is, if you think about that was on the drawing board in 1962...
57 years ago, think about all the incidents that have happened between now and then, and you have to ask yourself the question, how many of these are real?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, don't get me started with...
I've followed the trail, you know, having to do with the Nixon administration and Nixon being very involved in the Bay of Pigs.
You know, I don't know if you can't remember if you followed my work on that.
But, you know, the individual and at the moment, Ashton Gray...
Well, it ends up to be about L. Ron Hubbard, but it centers around...
The CIA and how they planned things back then involving mind control to completely deceive the American public into doing whatever they wanted.
And people like Hal Pudoff were front and center and instrumental in this effort, which is incredible.
In other words, a physicist who's involved in SRI and remote viewing years later, It was all front and center back in those days as well.
So when you start wrapping that stuff and you start looking closer at that and you realize how haunted Nixon really was...
He could not get Bay of Pigs out of his mind.
And of course, my witness, Captain Mark Richards, addresses that.
And I spoke about it in my most recent interview.
I think it was number 10 or 11.
And I think it might have been 11.
And I'm going to try to go back and interview him again sometime in February if I can manage it.
So I am right on that as well.
So it's going to be interesting to see what more I can get.
But I can tell you that he said, obviously, that that whole scene was a whole different ballgame than we thought it was.
And again, we're talking false flags.
We're talking about using mind control to completely manipulate things.
And then you have to ask yourself what's going on now, as you said.
You have to look at the Vegas thing because you've done a lot of investigation there.
I wanted to also ask you if you had an update there and certainly a zillion other situations that we're hearing about right now that, you know, they're trying to steer a ship.
And they're trying to steer the ship of public opinion in one direction or another.
So they can basically make us completely ineffectual in changing the world around us.
Because we don't know what's happening.
In other words, we don't know what's real or what's fake.
And there are so many false flags.
And of course...
You know, and the satanic elements and people that read the, you know, like Ole Domogard that read all of the false flags and get the symbolism behind the scenes within them and what they're building towards because you have to always ask yourself that.
They're trying to, obviously, with gun control, try to make people think that if they take away the guns, that no school shootings will happen and, you know, we'll just all go along like nice little obedient children, etc.
So these are constant things that they're working on.
But yeah, they started way longer.
In fact, even before that, they started, and Vietnam was notorious, of course, the mind control that went on there.
And all the soldiers that have come back from there.
And we don't even know all the things going on right now in Afghanistan and in Syria, etc.
And now in Ukraine, etc.
But to get back to the topic, Vegas, do you have an update about that crazy false flag or whatever you want to happen to call it?
No, I really don't, other than just because I've sort of shifted gears in the summer to 48, back to 48.
Not to cast any aspersions on Las Vegas, but in the big picture, it is a big incident to the people who were involved and who it affected.
But in the whole scheme of things, it's just another one of many instances that they have pulled off.
It's just another one in a long line.
Okay, well, then I also want to ask you about 9-11 and Rudy Giuliani, or however you say his last name, you know, because the trouble is, is that he was on the side of the Bush cabal during...
Giuliani was on the side of the Bush cabal.
He is very instrumental behind the scenes as, you know, helping them sort of hide the true nature of 9-11.
And now he's somehow front and center in this whole Ukraine thing.
And he's supposedly working behind the scenes for Trump.
I wouldn't trust that guy as, you know, as far as I could throw him, which would be nowhere.
And, you know, I'm sorry, but how do you go from 9-11 to supposedly supporting Trump?
Can you explain that to me?
Well...
No, I can't because I have never been a Giuliani fan and I probably feel the same way about him that you do, that he was front and center in the whole 9-11 situation.
But, you know, there was an interesting part of the Northwoods document that gave me chills and there was a list of people that they were not supposed to send to This Operation Northwoods document, too.
In other words, there were certain people that were not going to be aware of what they were doing.
And one of the groups of people, well, there was NATO, there was the United Nations, and there were also commanding officers in the military, the U.S. military.
So what that tells me is, and I always knew this anyway, they do rely on People who are not in the loop on these incidents to follow the training and procedures that they have told them to do.
That is part of the whole thing, if that makes sense.
All right.
Yeah, sure.
I can appreciate that.
Yeah, so they're following a script that they've been given a long time ago, and they have no idea what it really is all about.
I mean, that's going on today as well.
Well, yeah, and I remember Giuliani leaving.
I think their command center was in Building 7, and I remember him leaving.
And I remember them, they had a camera on him, and it still runs in my mind.
I still recall this.
He looked scared.
He really did look like he was not in the loop.
Not like some of the other people who didn't appear to be scared, who felt like, you know, everything's okay.
And Giuliani actually looked like he was scared.
So they may have put him in a trick bag where he was not in the loop.
But he had to rely on them to help him get out of the situation because it was his city at that point in time.
Now, I don't know if that's true or not.
I'm just throwing this out because we tend to think that everybody is involved with it, with these kinds of incidents, and that's really not the case.
They plan these and they have trigger points to where they know, based on the training, And the support that they have given certain elements that are going to be involved, that they are going to react a certain way, so they do the trigger points so that they get the results that they want by having people react a certain way to an incident that they really thought was real.
For example, in this incident that I was telling you about where they were going to fly a plane over Cuba and then they were going to play like it got shot down, the whole situation there was they were going to start doing overflights of the whole situation there was they were going to start doing They were going to, it's routine.
And what they were going to do was they were going to slip a pilot, one pilot in one plane in the midst of these flights that were going to appear to be routine to everybody that was going to be involved.
And then this pilot was going to fly low.
He was going to do a radio transmission of being shot down.
He was going to give a radio transmission saying he's been hit and he's going down.
Okay?
And then he's going to fly to some Elgin Auxiliary Air Force Base down there in the Caribbean somewhere.
They're going to take the plane.
They're going to change the tail number.
And they're going to give him back his real identity and And he's going to be as if this person died, this pilot died in a plane crash, but the person never existed in the first place.
And all the other people involved in the military are not going to know about this, but they're going to react as if a plane really did get shot down.
So they're going to send rescue crews.
All these other pilots who have been doing these flights are going to say, yeah, we were flying close to Cuba.
We were doing these flights and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So there were only going to be a few people that knew about really what was going on and they were relying on the rest of the military that would be peripherally involved in this whole situation to basically carry out the story and make it believable.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
That is how they work it.
That is right out of a CIA playbook.
In other words, they want somebody who actually believes in whatever it is.
They believe they are such and such.
They are doing such and such.
They have the ability and the training to do such and such.
In other words, you have to have actors that believe in their parts of That's the point.
It doesn't work if they have lines that they kind of flub their lines because they don't get it and they don't really believe the plot.
They have to believe a certain plot.
So I appreciate that.
Yeah, I mean, they're actually trying to pull a ruse off against their own military by convincing their own military that that plane actually got shot down.
So they will react in which way It will look to the world as if it was a real incident when the people who are reacting, the rescue ships and the reconnaissance planes and all that, are not in the loop either.
So they're believing the lie, the big lie, that they're telling everybody.
And just to go back to sort of touch on the MKUltra, you've got MKUltra, you've got Project Mockingbird, you've got...
You've got all of these things that we're talking about.
They all started after World War II. What a coincidence, right?
I mean, they all started.
And going back to Nixon, Nixon was the guy who was in charge of planning the whole Bay of Pigs thing.
Yes, I know.
Before he got into office, though, what's interesting is, you know, this gets into that book that I was, I don't know why the name of it is escaping me at this exact moment, but it's about Watergate, Watergate hoax, I think that he called it.
So it's Ashton Gray.
And I, you know, I did a lot of investigation on that.
I actually contacted him.
Behind the scenes.
Because I wanted him to come on my show, but I also wanted to talk to him about things that he might be overlooking.
Because I noticed that he was careful in some of the things he would not reveal.
So I know he knows more than he's even revealing.
And he's got another book coming out.
I don't know if it's out yet.
It's on remote viewing.
There's going to be no coincidence on that either.
You understand how I'm saying.
There is a through line we're talking about, okay?
And that gets back into the Kennedy assassination.
During the Kennedy assassination, there's a guy, and of course I'm going to forget his name, but he was flown down to Antarctica.
So...
Fletcher Prouty.
No fucking coincidence.
You know what I'm saying?
This stuff has been orchestrated and going on since way before people followed the dots, let's say.
So, now this cuts back to, you know, and I'm not going to keep you much longer.
I know we've been doing this for a while, but I think it's very worthwhile.
But I also want to say that people don't understand why do you go back in history to follow the dots, to link these things up, and that's why.
Because John Kerry went to Antarctica for...
When Obama was being elected, why?
You have to ask, why did Fletcher Prouty go down just as the Kennedy assassination was taking place?
You know, and he was a key player.
In other words, these are situations in which we can connect the dots and start to see a pattern.
And when it goes back in history, it's...
All the more fascinating.
Of course, Jim Mars, if he was here, would be having a field day with all of this stuff because he's one of those guys who goes way back in history.
He knows where the Project Paperclip linked up.
He knows where Wernher von Braun and Argentina and all of these guys.
I hate losing these old-timers because they're the ones who hold the records in their head And the great books like Secret Team and various ones that have been out there that the old-timers know contain the truth and the clues.
And if you can't follow the clues, you'll never get the final answer to the mystery.
So this is what we're all part of.
So you're one of those guys who's connecting those dots and preserving the history.
Yeah, that's exactly...
Yeah, that's exactly what we're trying to do, and I know we're frustrating people with the amount of time that it's taking us to do these videos, but that's one thing we're keeping in mind.
We hopefully are creating a historical document that will be good for 20, 50, 100 years, where people can look back on this and say, okay, this is really what was going on.
And just to hit back on the Bay of Pigs, you know, Nixon was vice president in From 1952 to 1960 when Eisenhower was president, and that's when he was in charge of the Bay of Pigs.
And also, Prouty was sent to Antarctica by who?
Lansdale.
Right, right.
Yeah, I remember.
And then also having to do with Vietnam and the mine control that had to do with the Ho Chi Minh Trail and Project Phoenix.
Yes.
And then you have to look at our troops.
Now, I mean, these things and what's happening in the United States.
Because in a sense, we are now Project Phoenix.
Okay, we're the ones they're fucking with here in California with the fires, etc.
These things are all linked.
Okay, they're all linked.
And so it's one vast conspiracy that you can definitely take that to the bank as far as I'm concerned.
So Paladin, thank you.
Yeah, and that's why that's hopefully, and we're going to, in addition to putting out documents and various other things that we're going to put out, there's also going to be a lot of reading material that we're going to give people because there is so much to cover.
Economic Hitman by John Perkins is something you need to read.
The Sterling Seagraves books about the gold and China and Japan and the Philippines are books that you need to read because we're going to refer you to those because those tell the story of the way in which all of this developed because it's all about the money and that's one of the ways that they were able to accumulate money.
Another way was through the drugs and And, you know, that's going to come out in the Gang of Five.
I mean, we've got an FBI report that's going to blow everybody's mind, one that was done for Ted Kennedy back in 1989, that goes through the Gang of Five, Five Star Trust, and talks about all these things that were going on.
So I think that if we can educate everybody, they will be able to then look at what's going on around them and say, you know, this is bullshit.
This is not accurate.
This is not right.
And hopefully...
as a group, they can affect the changes that we'd like to see so that we live, you know, in a better world.
Um, and we leave a better world for our kids and grandkids, at least those of us who have them.
Sorry, I'm muted, but, uh, So I want to thank you for your service to humanity.
Thank the White Hats for their service to humanity.
Thank you for being there on the wall, on the watchtower, and keeping watch for all of us.
And so please continue to do so, and let's do an update after you release Part 2 and see if we can also do sort of a discussion wrap-up of what goes on there.
I would look forward to that.
Okay, very good.
So thanks everyone for being there.
Sorry if we didn't take time for questions.
I think we've been going a bit long here, but keep your questions and do your research and follow the reports the White Hats are putting out and please do support them.
I'm not sure.
Do you guys take donations or anything like that?
Do you need help?
We are, you know, I'm glad you brought that up.
We are going to, the first of the year, we're going to open a Patreon, we're going to do a Subscribestar, because we had a plan, the White Hats Media Group plan was to basically get funding for investigations that the public wanted to know.
You know, like if somebody says, okay, we'd like for you to investigate such and such or so and so, We would do that, and we don't have the funds to do it right now.
And of course, these videos are taking a lot of time.
It's taking a lot of time up with my video guy.
As you well know, Kerry, you know what goes on behind the scenes to put this stuff out.
And we can't continue to do this without getting some sort of funding.
So we are going to be opening a retail shop with t-shirts and hats and Mugs with the White Hat logo.
We are going to be doing Patreon and Subscribestar and we're going to be doing some other ventures because, you know, we were talking about this and we've done these reports for nine years.
We've never charged a dime for anything that we've ever done, but to take it to the next level where we want to actually create a I would love to
do a deep dive on Adam Schiff.
I would love to do a deep dive on Nadler.
But we don't have the resources to do that.
But if we can eventually transition into that type of an operation, which is really what the idea for the White Hats was when we envisioned this a long, long, long time ago, probably 25 years ago, we are transitioning to that.
So we will put up all that information.
We're going to make that transition, start that transition in the first of the year.
We want to get Episode 2 out.
And then we're going to kind of transition into maybe, you know, trying to create a cash flow in a sense.
And so we will probably have ways that people can donate, but we'd like for you to buy our t-shirts and our hats and anything that we can offer you as far as material and, you know, merchandise goes.
And then, you know, if we go to Patreon or Subscribestar, if you can afford a dollar or two or three a month to watch videos and podcasts, That would definitely help the cause, for sure.
So, excellent, and I'm sure that everyone will be very happy to support you guys.
So, take care, and I want to say it's a full moon tomorrow night, or tomorrow day, as well as night, and so that's kind of interesting.
A lot of craziness out there, I noticed today, so stand by and be alert, and take care of yourselves, and take care, Paladin, and thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thank you, Carrie.
All right.
Okay.
Thanks, everyone, and good night.
And I'm going to hang up with Paladin and see what we can do here.
I think this is my last show this week, but I might have one more, so I'm not sure I'm working on something.
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