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Dec. 5, 2019 - Project Camelot
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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY INDIGO ANGEL DEC 5, 2019
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Namaste and welcome to my channel Indigo Angel.
Today I'd like to welcome a special guest, Carrie Cassidy from the Project Camelot channel.
And honestly, I cannot think of one other person that I'd rather be talking to right now.
So I'm very excited and appreciative that you said yes to talking with me today.
And if you don't know who Carrie Cassidy is, she is a matriarch in whistleblower testimony and conspiracy, theoretical, and truth-seeking journalism in interviews, and she has traveled all over to get some of the best interviews on YouTube, in my opinion.
So I just wanted to say thank you and honor you for your integrity.
And as I know, you have been received as a gateway for so many to receive this knowledge to the Galactic Interworking Networks and Truth Seeking Intel.
So, what I have personally come to love about you, Carrie, is your bold moves and your ability to stay confident under pressure with navigating the flow of your interviews.
And I also wanted to let you know that I have prepared a lot of questions for you today, and I want to leave my personal perception out of it as much as possible because I do feel that your voice is the most important thing to be heard.
And I feel that If there's something that you cannot answer, please just let me know.
And if I say something incorrect, please just correct me as well.
And I have learned that through you.
I feel like I've taken notes as to, I guess, proper interviewing etiquette.
I've learned that through watching you.
So thank you for that.
And so I was just wondering if you can just go ahead and actually share with us actually how you came into this kind of work and give us an overview of how you came to be where you are today.
Basically, I did become a journalist in college.
I actually studied journalism, unlike I think most of the people out there doing interviews nowadays don't come from a journalistic background.
So, like I said, I wrote for the school paper.
I went to Sonoma State University and I majored in English, although I also majored in sociology.
I did master's work in sociology.
So, I was studying political science as well.
paranormal, the paranormal, because Sonoma State University at that time, and I don't know what it's like anymore, but it was sort of one of the more avant-garde radical schools that brought forward investigations into paranormal and other dimensions and things but it was sort of one of the more avant-garde radical schools that So they were also quite radical in terms of its politics.
And I interviewed people like Angela Davis and Maya Angelou and so on, and was sort of fairly active in that area as well.
Well, So that was my very early background.
And then after college, I got into the entertainment industry and I basically was...
I studied...
First of all, I went to New York and I studied acting and I studied directing.
And then I came back to the United...
Not United States, but I came back to California four years later and moved to LA and broke into the entertainment business.
And I... I did development and got involved in being a reader, reading screenplays and recommending them or not for television and movies, and worked for HBO, what's called Premier Films, for a while, as well as a freelance reader for the major talent agencies like CAA, ICM, and William Morris.
So I was involved there, and I also worked at Sony Studios.
As what you call a roving executive assistant.
So I worked for a lot of the very top people like John Peters and Peter Guber back in the day.
And Frank Price, etc.
on a temporary basis.
Sort of moving around and learning the business in all aspects.
And eventually the entertainment business took like a dive.
And I got involved in working for Jet Propulsion Lab.
In their media division as a consultant and helping them as the scientists and engineers to package themselves in certain products that they were trying to get involved in and productions and in media productions.
So I advise them in that way and And also then eventually that job, you know, dried up and it was over and so then I became an executive assistant over there and had a lot of free time.
And I ended up writing screenplays on my lunch hour and then I broke into being an independent producer.
I also went to an executive MBA program at UCLA. And so I sort of got a business compliment to my very creative background.
And so that was very advantageous, I guess you might say, and progressed in that regard and became an independent producer trying to package projects myself.
And reached a sort of a brick wall or a ceiling.
And so I then made the transition into doing things on my own and started picking up a consumer-grade camcorder.
And shooting actually videos, UFO videos.
And that's when I connected with my former partner, who we began Camelot, Project Camelot, officially together in 2006, although I'd been filming since 2005, and put our skill sets together.
And the rest is history, as they say.
Okay, thank you.
Wow, you have a very extensive background.
Are you still working with that same partner that you initially started your channel with in 2006?
Oh, no.
So Bill Ryan and I had sort of a major parting of the ways three years into the project.
I've been doing Camelot now for 15 years, so it was quite a long time ago now.
But at any rate, in the early days, we agreed on all the different witnesses.
We were traveling the world with a consumer-grade camcorder and We were quite unusual at the time.
Now there are a million channels doing what we do, but back then we were very unique.
And I had a small inheritance from my mother who passed on, and so we survived in the early days on that and traveled very low-budget type of travel around the world and got amazing Camelot interviews for the first really two or three years.
And then we had a...
Sort of a major disagreement on the various guests we should bring on in the future, and then also in terms of...
Bill became somewhat judgmental, I guess you might say, of our whistleblowers, and if they lied to him, which is very common with whistleblowers...
Who do try to tell the truth, but often are programmed and also having come out of black projects, etc.
They have to save their own life, so to speak, and they will give you disinfo as well.
And he felt that once they lied to him that he could expose them.
But our agreement in Camelot was to protect our whistleblowers.
And so we had a major disagreement on that level, and we did split up in 2009.
And since then, I've been running Camelot on my own.
And I have a partner who's been with me for about six years doing background things, Neil Anthony Sanford.
He is actually a musician by trade, a wonderful musician, but he learned how to be a filmmaker and So he also studied design in school.
And so he designs our banners.
And when we do videos on location, which is not very often nowadays, most of my broadcasts are via YouTube.
So it's just live over YouTube.
But when I do travel, I lead tours in Europe.
Specifically now in Egypt.
So we film Egyptian documentaries in Egypt.
And he does the filmmaking.
He's very excellent.
And we also filmed a small documentary in Turkey when we visited Gobekli Tepe.
And before that I filmed a documentary of Adam's calendar in South Africa.
So I was wondering, can you allude more on to why you have the philosophy of protecting the whistleblower?
Oh, well, if you see the original Camelot, if you go to my channel, my website, there's a list of channels at the top.
There's a menu item that says channels.
And you'll see the original projectcamelot.org page.
website that we did in the early days.
And this is really in the early days also of the internet.
So it's a little more rudimentary than the one, the main website.
But on there, you'll see that we made a pledge, a number of pledges, when we first put our project together, what you might call promises to the public and promises to the whistleblowers.
So we let them know that we would not reveal their, you know, true name and identity and so on, and that we would protect them and, and try to make sure their information got out in the truest form possible and things of that nature.
So it was an agreement that we had with whistleblowers around the world.
So also in part, because this is a very early stages now, the name whistleblower because of Julian Assange and, and Snowden is known.
But back in those days, when we, we used to say we specialize in, whistleblower testimony because we did.
And that was whistleblowers from Above Top Secret.
And that became our sort of shingle or whatever you want to call it when you, you know, putting that out there.
So in order to attract those people, we had to testify to our own honesty and integrity in dealing with them.
And obviously, whistleblowers are afraid for their life, assuming they're a true whistleblower.
And they're also trying to protect their families and, you know, friends, loved ones of all kinds.
And so This is like the crucial sort of centerpiece, you might say, of an endeavor of this sort when you are dealing with sources.
As a journalist, of course, you have experience with secret sources and there are famous cases of journalists even having to go to jail to protect their source.
So this has a long history, as you may know.
I was just curious how you energetically...
Maintained your own neutrality when it came to this type of energy, this information.
You know, how internally you stay balanced and how you, you know, stay even, healed through all of that.
I mean, in the beginning, there was no doubt that we wanted to get the truth out.
And so I've always been a very, I don't know, whatever you want to call it, Throwing caution to the wind, being able to say what I think.
I've always been notorious in this regard, and even in college, in journalist articles that I wrote, I did some rather radical things that angered my editor and things, because I have just always been a truth teller.
I grew up in Northern California, and it was just part of my...
I've always been fairly outspoken.
I even used to talk back to the teachers when I was a kid in school.
I had some inner knowing that I came in with and it's never left me.
I have been very psychic and it's protected me and kept me alive.
It's aided me in my work just incredibly and it's only grown through the years.
Especially after I went into meditation during the years when I was actually studying directing and acting in New York City and staying in a loft where I didn't have to pay rent because it was producer A woman producer and her husband, their loft, and they traveled a lot.
So I was able to stay there, and I simply knew about reaching enlightenment and studied Eastern philosophy and so on when I was younger.
So I decided to connect all my chakras and meditate every day to do so, and eventually I did reach multiple levels of samadhi and I saw the Matrix melt, etc.
And so having Kundalini activation has, you know, probably made my life quite different than other people's and it gives you an inner knowledge and a Sort of a good firm foundation for what I was to later encounter in Camelot.
So you might say that that's where my strength comes from, is my spiritual development, because I didn't start out exactly focusing on UFOs per se, although I was abducted as a young child, and I was aware of other dimensions and other beings all the time.
It was just part of my awareness.
And so all of that is why I kind of...
I guess this has accompanied me throughout my career.
So it wasn't something new that happened just because I started Project Camelot.
It was a foundation that I had from the past.
Okay.
I think that's what I was curious about, is just because I know being empathic, being a psychic, being somebody who can...
You know, read energy that sometimes we can be more vulnerable or more susceptible and if you were coming into contact with people who are energetically carrying a lot of I just didn't know how that transferred onto you, how you cleared your energy, how you rebalanced.
Well, I studied lots of aspects, especially Eastern philosophy.
So I was well grounded in eating things like health foods early on.
My mother, in fact, was something of a health nut.
And I studied, I don't know, self-reliance and I read voraciously when I was a child.
And I don't know, I was always an explorer, always willing to push the envelopes, as I say, talking back to teachers.
Not willing to sort of be a good slave here on the planet.
And coming into...
I wanted to explore and expose secrets.
That's always my motivation is that humanity has, in a sense, been lied to and lies to itself and each other all the time about reality or the nature of reality.
And I was very aware of that.
I decided that I wanted to expose all of that.
I wanted to expose the truth of who we really are.
And I've always felt a very strong connection to Source.
And so, you know, what can I tell you?
I can tell you that when I connected my chakras and reached those Samadhi experiences, it wasn't just reading in a book about it.
And a lot of people don't even know what I'm talking about.
That's my dog in the background.
And so her name is Skye.
Anyway, so I was...
Through the Samadhi experiences, anything that might have been theory became very well known to me.
And I'm very, I'm earth sensitive.
I can sense portals and wormholes and this sort of thing, stargates, when I'm in the vicinity of them and so on and so forth.
So when you have direct experience, it's very different than if you simply have book knowledge, right?
So that helped a lot.
You're saying dealing with whistleblowers and their energies and so on, but if you want to expose, I see them as souls that go, in some cases, working on the dark side for maybe even 40 years of their life, and then making a soul decision to break out and become a whistleblower is a very intense spiritual journey, and I regard that highly.
And regard their courage.
So I think they sense when they talk to me that I take them seriously, that I take their journey seriously, and that I understand on a deep level what it's like to put yourself out there and to be exposed to dangers, possible threats.
I mean, I'm like the person people love to hate.
Sometimes on the internet I get the worst comments and people will tell me this and I don't spend a lot of time.
I never spend much time reading comments because I wouldn't have time to do my work and I'm not interested in the negative perceptions of me.
I know who I am and I'm not worried about people sort of trying to expose me as something other than what I am.
People see what they want to see.
And they often reflect their own inner demons out onto, especially if you become fairly well known.
So if you understand that they're seeing what's really inside them, the shit that they carry around, and they're trying to externalize it and sort of put it on you.
And so that's their issue.
It's not my issue.
And so knowing that, I also think I understood.
I worked in Hollywood for 20 years.
I worked around stars and people, egotistical people of all kinds.
And...
And I get along really well with these kinds of people because I sort of understand it.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a good solid ego.
In fact, I think lightworkers, so-called lightworkers, it's not a phrase I like, but I prefer the word light warriors, but lightworker types tend to have weak ego boundaries a lot of times.
And so they are easily manipulated and used for the dark.
And this is just information I'm aware of.
So I think it's better to have a strong ego barrier and boundary and a sense of boundaries in life.
I think it helps the soul in its journey.
And otherwise you become kind of porous and you get taken over and subject to that sort of thing.
So at any rate, having spent all those years in Hollywood and dealing with...
High level executives and celebrities.
I didn't.
I understood it on a deep level.
And I think that actually came from a past life of being quite well known.
And so, you know, I carry that with me.
Who are you in your past life?
Actually, you know, I'm not going to say.
I will say, you know, Project Camelot is based on the whole, you know, King Arthur's Camelot.
And there's a lot of talk also.
This is not related to me being a celebrity.
You know, you have zillions of past lives or whatever.
And it's only an illusion that they're past because it's sort of simultaneously all time and space is one.
Nostradamus speaks of that too.
I was reading about some of his literature that he goes into simultaneous time and Dolores Cannon as well.
Yeah, and so understanding that it's not past per se, but we see it in a timeline.
So at any rate, going back to the days of the original Camelot, I relate very strongly to the princess warrior Guinevere and had past life recall and Bill seemed...
To me, as well as a number of psychics that I didn't know when I met him, had reported that he might have been King Arthur, and it turns out that he has come from the Arthur bloodline.
So it seemed that we had the Arthur, Guinevere, whether we were them actually or not, I don't know.
But we came into Camelot.
That was our inspiration.
We met and really connected in Tintagel.
That's not where we first met, but we made a journey there on purpose initially when I went to visit him in England.
He agreed to show me the power places, the stone circles and so on.
And the first place we went was Tintagel, one of the former homes said to be of King Arthur.
So I had past life recall when I was there and have had since then very strong indications that of me being Guinevere, let's say.
So that Again, I'm sort of not attached to being anyone in particular, but I do know that souls do model themselves on certain journeys, let's say.
And that journey of the warrior princess has been very strong with me.
And as it happened with the King Arthur-Guinevere relationship, I ended up to be somewhat similar to Bill and I and we did break up ultimately and so on.
So this is the kind of thing that I'm aware of.
I'm aware of my past lives and I get information from them.
In my travels, and I travel around the world even now, as much as I can, as much as I can afford, which is not as much as I used to be able to, but at any rate, whenever I go to a place, or as I say, a sensitive, I can also...
I'll buy Locate.
Before I go there, I will get downloads about information.
Or if I go there, I will have very interesting experiences associated with those places.
For example, when I went with Ashiana Dean, because I know you're interested in her work...
I traveled with her and her group several years ago.
I think it might have been 2010, but I'm not sure of the year.
Maybe it was later than that.
At any rate, I began to get downloads.
We were riding in a bus and going various places, and she would wait for the guardian races that she downloads information from as a speaker, she calls herself.
And I would start to get the same download that she would then be talking about so I became in touch with them and I also found that I was getting downloads about India and why India is the way she is and why for example It's got garbage everywhere.
It's such a strange thing because there's so much spiritual awareness in India and yet at the same time you see a lot of garbage on the streets.
Kids playing around in it and everything.
The understanding I got was I was in touch with the blue Syrian beings.
Who occupied India in the early days and back at the time of Atlantis.
And that Atlantis was actually kind of a worldwide civilization centered.
Some of the main areas were in the Atlantic, but it spread out.
What happened was in Atlantis and this seems to be that we are actually revisiting Atlantis at this time in our trajectory.
So what happened was society split and there were the outliers And the ones who lived in the cities.
A little like, what do you call it?
Hunger Games.
A little like that scenario.
And so in those times, the rebellion was for the outliers to throw their garbage out.
To signify that they were not part of the state.
And so it became a political statement.
And so the people that are now still in India, who are often souls that have reincarnated and sort of reliving some of the timelines in that way, which one does when we reincarnate, This connection has been sort of part of the history of India now and it became built into the culture.
I think it's probably changing now with the advent of the internet and sort of consciousness of a worldwide that you don't have to sort of live like that.
But this is, I mean, even Egypt has had this tradition as well.
So there are reflections of the old relationship between the state as Atlantis and the outliers.
And that's information that came to me when I was...
Traveling around India with Ashayana Deen, among other amazing spiritual type experiences that I had.
And I just wanted to say thank you for that interview with Ashayana.
I know it's a three-part series.
And you can find that on your channel.
I was going to leave the links in the description of this video as well.
But I think that you have personally, I mean for me and I know for so many people, have made such a tremendous impact with getting these teachings out and getting them more available, making them more public so people, you know, can find the teachings, you know, learn about the Guardians, the Voyagers book.
And begin to perceive all of this galactic cosmic human history on a higher level intelligence that Asayana has brought forth.
And I think that you had a soul calling through the Guardian Alliance to be a support system of that work.
Yes, many Camelot people have found her work through me.
So it helped also support her work.
And I, you know, I have a strong connection to her as well, for some reason, just, you know, a real familiarity with her.
One thing that did happen when I went to India, you know, I get I'm a precog, I get information ahead of time about things.
And I got off the bus just from the airport.
And her She and her group were sort of standing there outside a hotel.
And I got hit with the fact that that group was going to be splitting, going through a major split.
And that's exactly what happened about nine months later after we got back from India.
I think I have more questions.
I did want to know, do you personally have a connection with guardians or guardian consciousnesses?
Yes.
You know, actually, I should tell people how I actually came across Ashia Nadine.
It was not part of Camelot.
It was in the early days that I was involved in, you know, just doing, still working, I think, at JPL, and that's when I came across her website.
So the first website was azuritepress, I think,.com.
I don't know if that link's still active, but...
At any rate, she had sort of this shield on it that was a certain color.
And I saw it and I immediately got...
I saw this color and her website and some symbols there.
And I didn't know any...
I mean, now that I've read the books, it's extremely deep and involved.
And it's not for the faint of heart, as they say.
And it's really like a history of humanity going through the ages and the spiritual wars that have been fought with various ET races all over the planets and various genetic engineering and re-engineering.
That's exactly what I wanted to know.
What is your overall perception of the books?
How do you relate to it and how has it impacted your life, these teachings, once you read the book?
Right.
Well, what I wanted to say was I got a psychic download the minute I came across the website.
And so I... From there, I basically knew...
I can't explain it.
This happens to me all the time.
I get information.
And I always have.
And it just tells me things.
And so...
All I can tell you is that I knew that it was accurate.
I knew that it was a group that was unlike anything else on planet Earth at the time, that it was much more advanced.
So I began to investigate the website and the information, and I vowed that I would try to interview her.
At some point in the future and I also eventually you know I interviewed her and I before that I read the books.
When you read the books they are extremely difficult to go through because there's so many new terminologies and concepts that we're not used to seeing in in writing really anywhere and It's extremely advanced in my view.
But I get a hit when I'm reading.
I simply know if something's true or if it's not.
And I got a very strong hit that the information was correct.
That it was kind of like a goldmine of information about humanity and spiritual wars, as I say, going back millennia.
In an interstellar sense.
And so it just rang true.
That's all I can tell you.
And gradually it seeped in because when you read the books, you realize you're not going to get it all in one take.
You can read the words, but there's so much there that it takes a long time to kind of filter through.
And learn an entirely new vocabulary.
Right.
And so I can't say that I am an expert on those books either.
Still, the knowledge in some areas has eluded me simply because I know it's there, but it's just too much.
It's extremely dense.
I don't attend her seminars.
And she gives seminars on a regular basis, but I've never had the money to actually attend.
And for some reason, you know, it's something that I focus on my work as opposed to her work.
I do recommend her work everywhere I go, and we have a standing invitation for her to come back and be interviewed again.
I'm pretty much, as of a certain date, I became the only journalist that interviewed her, and that's true today as well.
So it was an honor to interview her, and the interviews speak for themselves.
Either the knowledge will resonate with you or it won't.
She talks about certain races that have made decisions to go against humanity in negative ways.
And then it involves certain large groups that contain what we call sort of resistance in a negative way to, let's say, the law of the one And that includes, you know, the Ashtar Command, for example, and also Metatron and so on.
So some people think they're downloading information from Ashtar and from Metatron and all this kind of stuff.
And it's not, you know, they are real.
The Ashtar Command has a huge base underground California and Arizona in that area, etc.
All I can say is that when I look at her material, when I hear the information or read the information, I know, and this is true of all the material I come across, I can tell if something's true or not.
It just either resonates or it doesn't.
And sometimes I'll get a hit and I'll think, well, that's just crazy.
Why can't I, you know, take this on board, whatever it is?
Why is it hitting me wrong?
But it does and then I often almost Without fail, find out weeks or months later that indeed I was right.
That there was a reason why myself was resisting the information.
And I can't explain when that happens.
I can't even explain necessarily why.
But I get a very strong take on it.
And for example, when I heard the information she put out about Metatron...
I immediately knew that it was correct, and I immediately also, since then, I've also got a very strong take on it being an artificial intelligence.
And it's linked to this, oh God, what's his name?
Enoch, initially, which was like a human being that the so-called gods found favor with.
And if you look in the Bible and so on, you'll see that Enoch was basically found favor with And it's the Anunnaki that were the so-called gods that found favor with Enoch.
So he was already working on a questionable side way back then.
And, you know, some people like to think he's some kind of, I don't know, specially selected human or something.
And unfortunately, you know, this is all a problem.
But at any rate, these are the kinds of things I'm talking about where I can get a hit on something that will tell me basically sort of like the hard information in the background.
And then from then on, I sort of track it and pay attention and try to learn what it is is really important.
The problem inside of the situation.
So it's fairly complex, but everyone has these...
See, truth resonates.
There's just no two ways about it.
For example, it can give you chills if you hear truth.
And so we are like barometers of truth.
We can...
We either choose to make truth our sort of banner and our beacon, or we actually choose to lie and become what you may say is disinfo-agents.
And this is a conscious decision, although it can be influenced by a lot of factors and beings around us and so on and so forth.
How then do they begin to look at their belief systems and their spirituality and how they identify with these spirits and these angels?
How can one incorporate these teachings?
Does this mean we have to abandon certain Beliefs to, you know, having connections to these particular angels that we may have once thought to believe as being good beings or not fallen.
So how does one continue to, I guess, develop in the teachings according to the new information, I guess, that came out about Metatron?
Sure.
Well, that is a dilemma for people.
I think that...
Now, this is information that came to me through what is called the Wingmakers.
And James, the initial person who downloaded the information about Wingmakers, calls himself...
He's from Lyra, and he had talked about...
Just like we know there's a matrix.
Well, there is a matrix, and you can visualize the Earth as having rivers of information around it.
And even one of our witnesses, Pete Peterson, said the black scientific community, meaning the hidden scientific community, considers all of this, what we call the ether, as an information field.
So there are rivers of...
Like matrixes going around the earth and one of those contains channeled information.
So initially, a lot of channelers do nothing other than tap into that river of information.
So there's a churn.
You can appreciate that.
There's like a churn and all of that stuff keeps going around every eon, you know, and getting regurgitated, so to speak.
In various forms and fashions, but nonetheless, you know, because each of us is a filter.
So we filter through what we are able to, and we also can, you know, it can have a clear channel or not a clear channel, and most people are not that clear.
So they will put their own overlay into the situation, and they are also Ashina Dean cautions against channeling because there's a very large chance of takeover in that situation, even sort of temporary, you know, where the person will become easily taken over even for short periods of time.
So this is the kind of thing where...
Spiritual, it's really learning discernment on a spiritual level.
It's a journey.
All of it's a journey.
And you become sort of better adept and better equipped to deal with it as you move through your incarnations and So what I would say is that people that have kind of gone down certain spiritual paths initially, I mean, you can also just take regular spirituality, whether it be, you know, being a Muslim or a Christian or, you know, Judeo-Christian or whatever.
In other words, there are lots of lies that have been put out within the confines of so-called spirituality and or religion.
So this is part of the problem.
And within that, there has been takeover within those groups that have pushed forward certain information that contains lies and has contained lies over and over again, but never been sort of revealed.
So these are the kinds of things that we're dealing with here on Earth.
It's kind of like a soup of spiritual information, and people have to make their way through it.
So do you feel that there is any...
Purity still to the Metatronic spirit or the Metatronic angel, or do you think that it is fully taken over, fully infiltrated, and is a fallen being?
Or do you think that the river is just...
I think from what I understand and my take on it, you see even the name Metatron.
Think about that.
It sounds like an AI. It's an AI at this point.
It's not a being.
And there's a problem also, I think, in a certain sense that We don't know the difference between artificial intelligence and actually what we are.
And so we can be deceived very easily.
And it's kind of like Battlestar Galactica.
And some of these Some of the initial beings, like let's go back to Enoch, let's say, there may have been a soul there, okay, and he may have moved on and have nothing to do with Metatron at any rate, even now.
On the other hand, he could still be somewhere in the background, but he's been taken over by AI. All I know is that, in my view, Metatron is, you could call angels could be AI. They're light beings, or they're manifesting a form of light, but it may be artificial.
It doesn't have the density and the clarity of real spiritual light.
It's a deception, a form of deception, and it's understandable.
You know, one of the ways these, people think the negative parades itself as negative, but it doesn't.
The negative parades itself as light.
It parades itself as good, you know, as, you know, healing the sick and saving the earth.
Except they don't tell you that they're doing this in a manipulative kind of way in order to serve their own agenda, okay?
And to see, you know, humans can be treated like children, even though we're not.
We are actually...
Especially the souls that inhabit these bodies are actually, if they come into full spiritual knowledge, will find themselves to be highly elevated spiritual beings with, you know, access with eternal life.
But the sort of vessels that are down here a lot of times have sort of cut themselves off.
And I liken it to...
And it's actually multiples of that, but nonetheless, so it's more than that.
But what I would use is like the human hand.
So if you imagine that every finger is an incarnation and they're all simultaneous and that...
There is a channel, so it goes up, like use the arm for your connection, that connection to source.
And then source being the avatar, like imagine your body is the avatar.
So it's this kind of thing where a finger doesn't necessarily have, you can Certain frequency fences can be put in to block your connection to Source in some ways.
And it goes through a certain spiritual darkness, you might say, at that time.
Do you think that finding the spiritual darkness is a continuous process to coming back to the purity and coming back to the light?
That...
Well, I think that each vessel has access at all times to the light.
It's connected.
We're all directly connected to source.
But certain blocks, mind control, what they say is implants, both physical and non-physical implants, what they call memes, ideas that take on a life of their own, that then block.
Spiritual progress.
Some of the chakras getting sort of, what we say, muddied and dirtied.
And action.
So because every action you take will reflect back on your On your physical and spiritual development and can create blockages, just like, you know, impurities in the system in your biology.
So the blockages are what become the problem and some people, you know, it's kind of like it twists the person.
So to avoid a blockage you might get The person going around it rather than burning through it.
So they're bent in a sense, you know, in a spiritual sense.
Yeah, it's a matter of...
And how do you get rid of these?
As you go into meditation, you can learn to raise the kundalini energy, which is light energy.
It's really orgone.
And every human body contains it when...
People are young as children and as teenagers.
They have a lot of orgone.
Obviously as they get older a lot of times they lose that and that's why they age and their skin gets all dried out and all this kind of stuff is the orgone.
It's all orgone.
So they no longer have...
Orgone is from spin.
So it's how you spin and how much you're spinning.
You're in a state of spin.
So Like your particle rotation or like your Merkaba field?
Kind of like, but the Merkaba is a sort of a side effect of the natural sort of spin of all our cells.
And so everything in the universe is spinning.
The spiral, I believe, is the basic sort of unit depicting in the universe and also our bodies, etc.
So all of this has to do with how you cleanse...
Go through a cleansing process is to go back into your vessel and to start to use that spin to understand the correct way clockwise for the spin of the chakras to clear them out and then begin to be able to reconnect fully with Source instead of just partially or And to burn through the sort of areas where you have blockages,
which is exactly what happens.
The light will burn through those blockages when you're sitting in meditation eventually, and you will feel this go on.
So I know that this is not known in Western society.
On the East, it's commonplace.
It's very well understood.
Of course, yogis have been doing this for centuries, etc., But not all yogis are also, they're not pure spiritual beings just because they follow this path.
They are still beings in development so many of them have distorted in their own ways some of this information and it became a kind of a secret society.
This knowledge is secret knowledge and so on.
So all I can tell you is in terms of understanding Where you're getting the information and whether or not it's actually coming to you in a pure sense, whether you're being manipulated by it and how you might be manipulated or deceived by it and so on.
It takes a long time to develop clear spiritual sight and insight.
So it's a journey each of us goes on and don't forget that also in a sense our karmic history Will interfere with and or create blockages.
So if you don't have, let's say somebody lies to their spouse and lies to other people on a regular basis, that's creating a block, a dark area in their sort of aura and so on.
And eventually can cause disease, etc.
So this is...
How do you think one discerns their connection to pure source consciousness, pure light, in simultaneous to the law of one, and simultaneous to guardian consciousness?
And how do we discern that we're connecting to the purest Purest form of God consciousness, prime creator consciousness, cosmic mind, you know, and discernment.
Well, again, I think it's through trial and error is how the human being learns.
And so inevitably...
Let's say most of us have fallen in love with a person that we eventually found out was nothing like we thought they were, for example.
Let's just use that as a very practical example.
So the same way a person falls in love with a religion that's not really what they think it is.
So these are the kinds of things, these forms of maya, as they say, that we become deceived by.
And there are proclivities within us that are sort of reaching out for the light in that way, but can be deceived also by the darkness that's parading as light and the light that may be hidden behind the darkness.
And so this is the kind of thing where...
Eventually, you learn.
Eventually, the person gets outed or they do something that tells you they're not working on the side of the light.
At that point, you have a decision to make.
You can either join them.
In their sort of work on the dark side, or you can separate yourself and decide to follow the light.
It's a decision we make every day.
Every single day, there's things that we're faced with, like that we, our soul, have allowed into our midst to challenge us to make that decision again as to whether we want to follow the light in that particular instance or Through maybe fear or prior triggering and PTSD or whatever the block happens to be, we may shirk our responsibility as a spiritual being in that way, whatever it happens to be.
It's kind of like recently...
The death of this wonderful thriller novelist, Jennifer Janes, she was exposing through her novel, I mean, in so-called fiction, but she did some very good research, what the drug companies are up to with these immunocyseuticals and the fact that they also have Put into them things like aluminum that allows this stuff to get in through,
to cross what they call the blood-brain barrier.
And so they're doing, they're trying to get humans to sign up for this stuff, to get vaccines, to get their children vaccinated against what's, immunosuiticals is all about preventative medicine, supposedly.
So it sounds kind of good, right?
But in reality, they're being shot up with all kinds of stuff.
And this is part of the move for transhumanism here on planet Earth, etc.
Which these parents don't know, and they're all naive about.
But nonetheless, children get sick and die.
And the way the Illuminati view this is that, in a sense, it's a tracking system.
If your child cannot withstand this inoculation that they give them, it tells them that their genetics are faulty and they aren't strong enough.
And because, you know, from the point of view of the Illuminati, it's might makes right always.
It's always, you know, only the strong survive.
Those are their creed.
Because they worship themselves.
So this is what goes on.
So people are deceived along these lines, but what's interesting is how people, even in my sector, my so-called colleagues...
Don't see these connections to the sort of, you might say, the sort of spiritual, the ET, the realms that we deal with.
They think, oh, UFOs are over here, and health is over here, when in reality the super soldier thing is right in the middle, and they could be dealing with this.
They could be protesting the death.
She was killed with two shots to the head.
it is said, and that is an exact mirror of what she wrote in her plot line of what happened to one of her characters kind of thing in the way she was killed.
So obviously, it's a targeted hit.
But you know, no, very few people have the guts to come out and say so, which I have done.
And at the moment, it looks like the police and her loved ones are being kept quiet on these scores, but they must be probably scared to death to say anything because they don't want to die either.
So these are spiritual dilemmas that we're faced with every day, you know, that we have to make a decision Should we speak out?
Should we speak on behalf of the light?
Should we expose the darkness?
Or should we keep quiet in fear and kind of cower in the corner and not be true to our true selves?
These kinds of dilemmas, and maybe we're trying to protect our children, which is our first priority.
Understandably, I'm not saying they're simple decisions to make.
I'm just saying these are the kinds of Roadblocks that we encounter that we have to push through.
And when you do push through and, you know, we all know courageous stories about and certainly about certain whistleblowers who came out and told the truth against all odds, you know, and still managed to survive.
There is also a large A portion of the positive beings that will protect you to some degree, but you also have to protect yourself and so on.
So these are decisions we all have to make.
It got me thinking about seeking truth and being...
So, you know, I followed Ashayana's teachings.
I've read The Voyagers 2.
I've never read Voyagers 1.
I've read the Biospiritual Healing Textbooks 1, 2, and 3.
And, um, angelic realities, and I support her work.
I love her work.
Um, but even though I think she has put out some recent teachings, I think a lot of people within the community, like, uh, the Asha and Adim groups and stuff on Facebook and stuff are curious as to If she's gone into...
If she's in hiding, if she's...
I guess everybody's kind of curious, like, where is Ashina Dean and what's happening to her?
Is she writing another book?
Some people feel that maybe she dematerialized and transfigured into eternal atoms and she's gone off-planet.
She's gone through the gates and...
Or is she...
I guess...
We're just curious if she's still okay.
I don't understand why they're curious and they don't know that she has a website and she does regular...
Every few months she comes out and does a whole presentation.
It does cost money.
It costs, I think, if I recall, it's something like $144 a session.
So she does everything online nowadays.
So she's there.
Any of her...
Most subscribers can watch and see her in real life online.
So she's very active.
She works very, very hard.
She's still downloading, constantly downloading information from the Guardians and putting it out there.
So she's very much alive and well.
And, um, what can I tell you?
I, I don't know, you know, um, I don't think so.
I don't know that for sure.
But, um, my understanding is, you know, that in a sense she's writing a book, but it's through the seminars.
So all of the seminars are transcribed and recorded as, as I think video and audio.
You can also purchase them after they're done.
So her website, I have everything linked on my site.
In fact, if you go to the front page of Camelot and you scroll down to the Voyager 2 book...
And click on that, you will go directly to her R High Yes website.
And that is where you can sort of go around and, you know, register for her seminars, etc.
I mean, I was in touch with her, I don't know, maybe it was a year ago or so, in which I, you know, she did say sometime in the future, we're going to get together again.
So, you know, but it's in guardian, as she may say, it's in guardian time, you know, so I don't, I figure that at the right time she'll come forward.
I know that part of the way she's protected, because the knowledge is so profound, and It contains major science that goes against every major scientist and drug company.
She puts out who the enemies are.
I mean, the books contain the truth.
And she also, when she speaks in her seminars, is telling the truth.
And so this is a threat to the powers that be.
But because she...
It's kind of couched behind a lot of layers to where, just as you say, these people have a Facebook page and don't even know she has a website.
I mean, it's incredible. - Ashyrana community online, like on Facebook, on Instagram, you know, there's like rumors that are spread.
I mean, I've come across so much false information and people saying that she's not even a speaker anymore.
I've heard people say that speaker two was infiltrated.
Like I said, there was a major split in her organization.
And so there were two people.
One is her ex-husband.
And one is this other woman that considered herself a speaker.
And they split off together.
And that was back when I say, just after we came back from India.
So that is a huge lawsuit that she had to be also very quiet about and wasn't going public.
I don't As I say, I don't take her seminars, so I don't know the details as to how that all played out, the lawsuit.
I know it was years ago.
So at this point, that organization, that kind of split, I believe went off and started trying to do their own thing.
I haven't followed them either, so I couldn't tell you the status on their situation.
I can tell you that people go on the...
People have whole shows lying about me.
So I can totally understand that people are probably doing similar things with her and not understanding.
Now, why this happens is their own spiritual journey.
So they, you know, look, if you're not sort of You want to know what's going on with her, then take a seminar.
Hello?
You know, it's just not hard, right?
It's like the people that had a very interesting thing happen over Thanksgiving when a person told me they didn't want to be associated with my website.
And my work.
And not realizing that I am my work.
So why would you want to associate with, you know, me if you don't want to associate with my work?
In other words, it's not like I'm an employee that goes to work every day and can say I work for, you know, Monsanto or some stupid thing.
And it's not me, right?
I'm innocent.
My work is me, you know.
And so in her sense, you know, her work is her.
Separating it.
And then claiming ownership over it too and not being able to make that connection back together again.
It's deciphering and discerning through a lot of this and just staying connected to the source is what seems to be the most important thing.
If you are a true supporter, a true fan, and you truly believe in the teachings, You know, it's, and it's also, keep in mind that it's not a matter of belief because ultimately it's got to be knowing.
You have to reach beyond belief.
I know that's a common terminology, but ultimately, we're staking our lives on it, if you can think about it that way.
I write and talk about this, but in essence, it's all fine and good to say there are lots of positive ETs, but if we have even a few negative ETs that are trying to kill us, Eat our children, you know, abduct our children, abduct us, do various things to us, then it behooves us to warn each other and to be aware of it.
And if you want to ignore that and think that you're doing anyone a favor, it's kind of like being in Nazi Germany and pretending that the camps don't exist.
You know, you're part of the problem, ultimately, if you cannot come out and tell the truth about what's really going on.
So it is a problem.
I think that people have to connect on a certain level where it really, you know it in, I don't know, in your gut, in your bones, whatever, to where it becomes a knowing.
And that's a long journey.
But it's not that hard.
And I think in a certain sense that if she never did another thing, the book, the knowledge the Guardians have put into the books through her...
Is so much superior to anything that anyone knows about humanity and the wars with the various races on and off planet.
That would be sufficient.
And people have to make their way through that.
And I think the problem is that It is a problem that it's quite esoteric.
It's difficult knowledge to delve into, to understand, and so on.
But it's not impossible, okay?
And it isn't necessary, I don't think, to learn all the lingo, so to speak.
On a certain level, if you understand the word grok, if you can grok it, it will become part of you.
You already are connected.
We're...
We learn through osmosis.
There's a lot of misinformation about how humans learn and who we really are.
But we are senders and receivers, so we can get information.
And in some cases, you don't have to read a book to have the information come to you.
It just comes through, you know, in essence the field that you're exposed to.
The beings that walk could walk into a room and say nothing and you're exuding the information and other people can telepathically download that information.
So we are connected and this connection is very powerful.
and can be tapped into in order to solve your spiritual dilemmas, etc.
And, you know, the universe, any self-respecting witch or warlock, which I consider we're all magicians, witches and warlocks, can see the signs and read the signs that come to you in the universe.
And the universe talks to you.
And so it's through that dialogue, that interchange between you and the universe or all that is that you're staying that, keeping that connection alive and you're getting the information.
So you get validation and it comes, sometimes comes very quietly.
It's not like you can shout it on a mountaintop because no one will know what you're talking about.
It can be the smallest sign of acknowledgement or affirmation, or actually information telling you the real truth about something you thought was wonderful, that it's not so wonderful, or whatever it happens to be.
Yeah.
Yeah, it resonates again, you know, and we are, we have all the antenna, everything that's built into this sort of body-mind complex has the ability to take it in and discern and figure out, you know, what to do with the information, etc.
I had a question too.
What is your position with Lisa Renee and are you current with any of her teachings and how do you feel about her work and information she's brought forth?
I guess I don't know if you want to compare them, compare the two platforms, or is Ashayana's teachings the founding of that teaching?
Because I believe Lisa Renee has her own relationship with the Guardian, so she's brought forth her own teaching.
So I just wanted to get your intake on that entire picture.
You know, I don't follow her stuff.
I did hear about her, I think, in the early days when she first came out as some of it being derivative of the work of Ashina Dina, and I think they had an issue with that, sort of copyright type things.
I don't know whether that was an accurate depiction or whether, you know, again, if we live in an information field that we can all access, then Those of us will begin to be in touch with the Guardians.
And as I say, I'm sure I am.
And the Guardians are a group of races, by the way.
And they don't agree on everything.
So different race groupings within the Guardians could say...
Be more in communication with certain individuals over others and so on may be going on.
I can't, you know, sort of say with regard to Lisa Renee what her story is because I don't follow her work.
So I don't know.
I know of her.
But I don't think I've ever been in dialogue with her to my knowledge.
I simply, you know, if something, again, if someone is doing something and tapping into something that resonates, then obviously you're going to go with it.
It's all for each and every one of us to decide.
I have many colleagues that talk about similar things to the things I talk about.
We're all in the same, you know, sort of sector talking about the secret space program and secret government, etc.
And we each may be tapping into different aspects of that, you know what I'm saying?
I've noticed that within my colleagues, many of them hold back and are not as spiritually adventurous, let's say, as I am.
They're not as interested in putting their own lives on the line necessarily.
Or they may have sort of a different take and be kind of caught up in their own drama, whatever it happens to be.
But it's not, you know, we're all our own spiritual leaders.
We're all our own guru, if you want to call it that.
I'm not trying to be anybody's guru, and I don't think she is either.
It's the races.
You know, I don't put other races on a pedestal either.
This is another important aspect.
I don't believe in worshipping other beings.
I don't even believe that the various, you know, because some race has advanced technology that they somehow have Advanced spirituality.
They don't go hand in hand necessarily.
There's a lot going on out there.
And so, as I say, it's kind of a big story, but the only way to navigate through it...
Is to, you know, listen to what you're drawn to listen to, follow what you're drawn to follow, do your own investigations, do your own research, see what resonates, and then go with it.
And it doesn't mean you're going to be right all the time.
You know, you may be wrong and you may be very wrong.
But that will be a learning process.
So, you know, in a sense, it's almost better to be wrong than right, because being here on Earth is about the experience of it, of going through something, in a sense, and discovering what's wrong with it before you kind of come into the light.
So every time you come into the light...
It's an experience to actually sometimes create something that was going to even be more than you ever expected.
Sure.
I mean, there's room for that.
You know, there's room for amazing, mind-expanding experiences.
But a lot of the people, you know, a whistleblower, for example, is a person who has...
Actually gone through something that was negative in many aspects of it, but the ultimate knowledge was impartial.
It was simply maybe free energy, your motivation for getting involved in the secret government, for example.
And so I talked to sources and recently had a discussion with a man who has some brilliant ideas, he believes, having to do with drones.
And the kind of surveillance they're capable of and how you can multiply the drones and turn them into swarms and all of this.
I understand Elon Musk wants to do something like this too.
The human mind is saying of the scientists, oh, we can do this, but should you do it?
And is it going to benefit humanity?
That's the question.
So they often don't make that latter step.
They just stay back in falling in love with the technology, not worried about what it's going to do to the quality of life here on Earth for other members of humanity and our spiritual progress.
So these are the issues that...
Have to be looked at.
It's not just doing something because you can.
And that's the journey, again.
That's why I think whistleblowers are so important because they're often people that have taken that journey and have come to the conclusion that what they were involved in, and sometimes it's a terrible, you know, burden, if you want to say, on a spiritual level that they've been involved once you realize what you've been part of.
Some people can't handle the weight of that.
Can't forgive themselves, get out from under that.
Even whistleblowing is not sufficient.
You know what I mean?
So it's this kind of thing.
When you know a secret that could benefit your fellow human and you keep it quiet for 40 or more years, and then you realize that you could have saved lives if you spoke out.
That's a huge spiritual burden.
And sure, there are mitigating factors having to do with maybe you wouldn't have survived if you spoke out.
Maybe your family wouldn't have survived.
There's all these, you know, factors.
But this is the journey.
And so that's why I think whistleblower testimony is so vital and why, to this day, I do my best to expose things along those lines.
Although, True whistleblowers at this point are very far and few between because the state has, and I mean, you know, the state of the really governance of this planet has so clamped down and they used Assange and they use Snowden as examples.
It doesn't mean they're the most perfect whistleblowers, but they certainly exposed a certain amount of truth to the public and have paid a price.
So this is the kind of thing that goes on.
Yes, I feel like you're very much speaking to my soul today.
So thank you.
Feeling like the constant goal, so I hear this from a lot of people, should be just getting the ascension codes up as high as possible in the DNA because you want to attain that cellular memory.
So if you do have to reincarnate, you have more cellular memory when you come back.
Back through.
So I don't know if that should be the goal.
I hear a lot of people saying that, you know, they don't want to reincarnate.
They just want to get off planet.
They want to enter out of the cycles.
Do you feel we have a choice in reincarnation?
Do you feel we have a choice in being intruded or mutated?
Do you feel free will can protect us from greater collective designs?
Yes.
In answer to those questions, I mean, we definitely have free will.
That's what the sector is about.
But there are decisions that we make, as I was kind of talking about before, every day, that can influence our standing with regard to that sort of dilemma.
And so, in a sense, you're choosing whether you know you're choosing or not.
And those choices are, again, made in small ways in every day.
And that will affect your frequency, right?
And so in a sense, your spiritual imprint on this reality.
It's like baggage you carry with you.
So as you go, you're going to reflect that.
And I think, yes, of course, ascension is a process.
I call it a journey.
It's not a destination.
I think that's really important for people to realize.
And this idea of rising up through the various dimensions and densities and leaving this planet, I sort of have a different philosophy about it.
I consider myself what you call a bodhisattva.
Which is a being that reached enlightenment but had sort of put it on the back burner to come back and serve humanity again.
And so whether that's true of my case or not doesn't really matter, but it's a philosophy I have.
So the idea being that, is it enough to enlighten yourself, for example?
Is it all about self?
Is it not...
As important to see the rest of humanity reach that level of enlightenment, whatever it happened to be, and going even beyond that.
In other words, we're in this together, and we will all reach various stages of enlightenment and progress.
That kind of goes with the territory.
And if time is an illusion, then you can appreciate that How soon you reach it, it's not, you know, it's not a race.
And there are a lot of spiritual...
There are a lot of spiritual materialists that think they want to get off this planet because they want to go do something else.
But in reality, what are you going to go do?
You're going to end up serving another dimension in another sector with your light, assuming you have a light to contribute.
So it's not so different, if you understand.
So I'm always a bit skeptical of people that tell me, oh, you know, I'm making sure this is my last incarnation here on this horrible prison planet because...
All the time.
I know.
But again, this is what we call spiritual materialism.
It's missing the point.
When you're serving and you do something loving and wonderful and you feel it and the other being feels it and you do something to contribute to Raising the consciousness of this planet.
It's just as valuable as raising the consciousness on Mars or raising the consciousness on Jupiter or Alpha Centauri or going up the dimensions and all this nonsense.
I mean, it doesn't I don't know.
Perfection is a really boring destination, for example, in my opinion.
It's not about that.
It's really about the journey.
And I think that we can contribute anywhere we are.
And I think that kind of knowledge and that kind of...
Peace, if you will, inner peace and outer peace with that notion is more important.
If you think that a human being is less valuable, for example, To help than some, I don't know, demented spider being on another planet, then, you know, that's your journey, I suppose.
But in essence, to me, it doesn't carry a lot of meaning.
And I could care less when people want to talk about, you know, ascended masters, etc.
I mean, we're all...
Again, if all time and space are simultaneous, and I say this, and I don't understand, people don't say this, but you see, it's kind of like I see this as, in a sense, a video game.
We are already enlightened.
We are already there.
We couldn't ever get there if we weren't already there.
You can't be an internal soul some of the time and not others.
You're either always eternal or you're not eternal.
So if you're always eternal, then you've been there and you've done that and you are eternal.
So we are in a state of play here on planet Earth where we are experiencing this in a sort of...
A game, a drawn-out scenario in which we are examining the journey.
And that's all it's about.
And we're beings in a state of play.
And one of my witnesses, Captain Mark Richards, who I've interviewed now 11 times in a California prison, Who was framed for a murder he didn't commit.
He talks about how he's very aware and enlightened, in many ways, individual.
And he talks about how the different beings are in different places and times and so on.
And I think that that This understanding, sort of having a deep spiritual understanding of who we are now and who we will, in essence, always be.
It's much more a form of enlightenment than anybody who is wondering about climbing some ladder and trying to make a destination and trying to go talk to, you know, Putting, you know, sort of ascended masters or other avatars and so on on some kind of spiritual ladder in which, you know, they talk to them like they are Hollywood stars or something.
Who cares?
I mean, we're all the same.
We're all one with Source.
So it's not about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really feel that.
Yeah.
I'll switch it up a little bit.
I'm curious about gate sites and stuff too.
Do you have any current information as far as grid sites, you know, overall understanding of where the energy is with any of the grid sites or any new current information or intel that you could give us as far as the Stargate sites?
In your interview with Ashana Dean, you seemed very interested towards the end about the gate sites and wanting to find out which ones were fallen and which ones were taken over or...
If you want to allude on that at all.
The stargates, I mean, the major stargates, a lot of them were taken over and there are back, I don't even know the terminology, but there are sub gates.
And in fact, when we were in India, we created a gate, actually more than one.
And so, and humans can create stargates and wormholes and By using the vortex energy in certain places.
So, you know, yes, there are many wars over these gates, and the war in Iraq and Iran is about that, and Syria has to do with the Stargates.
Have you heard of the Five Goddess Stargate, the pentagram?
Not per se, but I do want to say that in Acheon's I don't know which one it is.
I think it's probably volume two.
She actually, at the back of the book, tells you the names of all the gates and all the designations and what are called the A-pins, all of this stuff.
So that you can track these various things.
So in a sense, what you're going to have to do in the future is to see, again, what resonates with your frequency.
So it's kind of immaterial whether a gate is open or closed if it doesn't relate to you.
Because if you can't access it, then it's not going to mean anything.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You won't go through it.
And if you can, then you'll know it.
For example, I... I go to certain places and I know there's a gate there and I know that I have access.
And I can feel it because you can feel it.
It's physical as well as metaphysical or whatever.
So, for example, there are vortexes in Sedona.
This is sort of on a bit more remedial level.
And one of the vortexes is called the Female Vortex.
It's Cathedral Vortex.
And I can go there and feel myself being pulled into it.
So there's a resonance there.
But someone else could go there and just, you know, have a nice day.
You know, but it's not meaningful.
So it's kind of like worrying about something that may not affect you ever.
And I do believe she probably keeps people posted as to the status of the gates and whether one gets taken over or whether they've been able to take it back.
But this is, to me, see, that information would be The challenge is for me to access that on my own.
I don't need to be told, you know, such and such a gate in China is open or closed, you know.
It's interesting intellectually, but what I'm saying is it's not going to have any real meaning.
Now, if I want to go there and I want to access it, then I'll find out.
And that's one of the reasons I travel.
In fact, I encourage people to meditate in what we call, you know, spiritually very intense grid-activated areas because you will know if you tap into that energy in that place, you know, where that particular gate energy is.
So you can read in the back of her book where they all are and see where they are on the planet.
I can also say that new gates can, as I say, new gates, new wormholes also can be created.
And our military, of course, is working on doing that in various places and preventing people from accessing gates in other places and so on.
So, yes, wars over stargates, it's major.
And, you know, of course, Egypt is full of stargates and portals.
And you can...
I take a tour there too, and we do sort of, I bring people to various areas that have been activated.
And the energies do change, and actually, you know, just like in Sedona, people will know that some of those vortexes have moved.
Sometimes they just simply move, and sometimes they actually seem to kind of shut down, and that can happen too.
I was kind of asking, too, because I was wondering if there was a higher universal structure with the gates opening and closings that would affect us.
Well, there's this, you know, the sphere of Amenti, the halls of Amenti, as they call them, all of that having to do with what she talks about a lot in the books, and I assume she's talking about it now, having to do with The major gates to do with ascension and going off planet and out a certain sort of trajectory had been
activated and were opened.
And after 2012, that was clear.
And they are open through, she says, or the Guardians had said, Through 2022.
So they're open, permanently open at this point.
And there's this thing called the bridge, in which this has been constructed so that we can go beyond some of the, what she calls intruder races, having put, closed certain gates and taken them over, etc.
So this does go on.
I think, you know, it's the same thing with having to do with, you know, can you progress as a soul or are you going to be locked into this matrix, this earth-like matrix and have to reincarnate if you don't want to, supposedly.
If that, your conscious mind thinks you don't want to.
So, it has, again, to do with this same idea.
The way, you know, on the one hand, I listen to the guardians and I listen to Ashana Dean, but I bring it into my own inner knowledge.
My take on it may not be your take on it.
But I guess in my own spiritual journeys, I've learned to rely on my own inner knowing to be far superior, at least with relation to me, in my life.
So I don't care who tells me something.
And I am certainly somebody who is, I've interviewed over a thousand people and been told everything under the sun and been warned about all sorts of things.
I mean, in 2012, I don't know if you know who Sean David Morton is, but he's a friend of mine.
He called me up and said, don't go to Egypt.
Oh, it's very bad.
You know, you must cancel your trip.
And I said, well, thanks, John, for the information, but I'm going.
And so I went, and we had a fabulous time.
And I'm so glad we did.
And we had some very spiritual experiences there.
And I think we contributed to helping the situation as well, which, of course, you can do.
And so...
You've got to decide who you're going to believe.
Are you going to listen to your own counsel?
You have no choice in a certain sense, again, because you can't access a gate.
Something could be wonderful, but if you can't access it, you're not going to get it.
It doesn't matter whether you believe.
You know, your belief.
This is, you know, of course, a religious overlay using that word.
So I have to say that I'm not concerned with it.
I think that if you have the inner knowledge as a soul, if you really are ready for a certain next step, if you're out of this sector, then you're going to the next sector because everything about your being is already there.
You know what I mean?
You're already...
In a sense, they're your molecules and everything else.
So, ultimately, that's when you really leave this sector, okay?
Not when someone decides, you know, or not even when you decide.
It's every part of you that has to be on board, so to speak.
You know, you're not going to take only part of you.
So...
I guess I just view it a bit differently, but I can say that the major gates, we're talking, I think, in essence, going off this planet, ascension in essence, and I know there's spiritual teachings to the contrary, and so I don't believe that.
I believe that we always have, as individuals, access to leaving this planet when we're ready.
However, we're talking group Ascension, we're talking mass ascensions, and that's kind of more what the Guardians are really referring to, and has more to do with a timeline having to do with this Earth sector and what's happening also to this planet, this plan net that we're sort of resting on and involved in right here.
You can still go play out your drama elsewhere.
There are so many Earth-like planets that you can reincarnate to.
So this is not the only game in town.
I really appreciate how you can look at our teachings, incorporate it into your own knowing, and still speak confidently on what you think and feel from what you've personally experienced.
And I can really, really appreciate that and resonate with that.
And it just overall gives me a lot of confirmation to the things that I have been recently thinking and feeling about things, too.
Yeah, I would just like to thank you so much for coming on my channel and providing all of us today with your insight and your higher knowing and just everything you've brought forth has been a lot of needed clarification, I feel, for a lot of us.
So I just, again, thank you so much and I hope that I get to speak with you again.
All right.
Well, I've really enjoyed your questions, the depth and complexity.
And I think it's, you know, it's lovely to talk to a fellow traveler, someone who can talk on this level, on a spiritual level.
And I hope this interview will be, you know, welcomed by people out there.
And we'll see where everything goes from here.
But thank you.
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