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Nov. 22, 2019 - Project Camelot
01:48:49
MATT R: POLICE OFFICER ABDUCTED BY REPTILIANS
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I have a very interesting guest and his name is Matt R. And he's actually done other shows, so you probably have heard of him, possibly.
but he's a very fascinating background and as a police officer he was abducted and he was involved in the Katrina situation I think as a police officer and we're going to hear more from him about all of that so so welcome Matt are you there?
I'm here yes.
Okay, now Matt is not going to be on video, unfortunately, but we can hear his voice.
So Matt, can you give us an introduction to who you are now and then also who you were then when this happened?
Okay.
Sure.
Well, you know, right now I'm a self-employed day trader.
Back then I was on the police during Katrina, but I still to this day have abductions, you know, averaging, it's sporadic, like once a year, once every year and a half, but it's always evolving in terms of experiences and, you know, new surprises, which...
Taking it in directions, like, you know, my labs, that didn't even start for me until the last couple years, the my lab part of it.
Initially, it was, so I've gone from, you know, regular abductions to my labs to, it's been kind of all over the map in terms of experiences.
Yeah, I was on New Orleans Police during Katrina.
I actually joined the department in the spring before Katrina, so, you know, four months before Katrina.
And the reason I did that was, you know, I graduated from Columbia College back in, I'm 42 currently.
I graduated back in 99.
You know, I had a four-year degree, bachelor's degree.
Did film, TV studies.
And, you know, I interned at Jerry Springer.
I did well in college.
But I ended up working customer service at United Airlines.
And just by chance, finding this polygraph school that opened up.
Just through a friend.
Oh, that sounds interesting.
I'll do that.
And I did well in that.
Got good grades.
Passed the Illinois polygraph exam.
Licensing exam, which is the toughest in the country.
It's like the bar exam.
But because I was a civilian, I couldn't get employed in that field.
I needed to get police experience or be on the police.
So that's where I ended up applying to the New Orleans Police Department because we had some My family had some family friends in Louisiana, and they're saying, oh, New Orleans always needs people.
And I knew there'd be lots of action in New Orleans.
It was a very violent city.
I could see myself being a cop in Detroit, but I couldn't stand the cold up here in Chicago, where I've lived my whole life.
So the nice weather, but also a lot of risk.
It was a good combination.
So I ended up joining right before Katrina.
And I was halfway through the academy when Katrina hit.
And that was...
It was actually July before Katrina, two months before Katrina, when the mass abduction that I've spoken of in my bio and I've spoken of on other shows, I was taken to a mall after dark to train reptilians in crowd control.
And more being used as a training object.
They knew what they were doing, but I was more of a, you know, playing the role of someone they were interacting with in this crowd control scenario.
And there were human, what looked like human military involved in this as well.
They weren't wearing uniforms or name tags.
Now wait one minute, because this is a bit confusing, okay?
So you go into the police force, and then suddenly you're in some kind of training.
Is that what you're trying to say?
Yes, the mass abduction, that happened in July.
And the reason I'm calling it a mass abduction is because Joe Montaldo, who runs ICAR, and he's got that show UFO Undercover.
He's been on Ancient Aliens a few times.
There's a total of like 15 now, police and military, who were taken to the same mall I was after dark in that same abduction.
So that's why I'm calling it a mass abduction.
And this actually...
To skip back, my very first abduction was 2003, that I recall.
I'm sure I've had others I don't recall before that.
But 2003, I actually had a reptilian abduction before I even went on to police.
But I didn't expect to get involved in a mass abduction or have more abductions.
Every time I've had an abduction, when I'm going to have the next one or what it's going to involve, that's not really clear.
But 2003, I was taken to what looked like this boarded-up convenience store after dark.
Like, interior, there was, you know, nothing on the shelves.
The lights were on, there was fluorescent lights.
And I found myself, I'm standing there in an aisle, and there's two male reptilians.
They felt, you know, just in terms of energy, you know, six and a half to seven feet, closer to seven feet.
And they approached me, and one of them gets really aggressive.
Brown scales.
They were wearing some type of clothes.
It was dark.
Again, there's no logos on their clothing either.
But he had something on his belt, and I perceived it to be a gun or some kind of weapon.
And he was sort of motioning towards it and asking me, what are you going to do?
He's going to draw this weapon down on me.
And I freaked out.
I jumped on him with a lot of adrenaline, and he bit me right in the shoulder.
Right in the clavicle would be the correct collar belt, like the side...
If I'm using the correct anatomical term.
Now, the reason I'm jumping back from 2005 to 2003 is because in the 2005 abduction, another person who was there with me, and Joe Montalos talked about this on his radio show and elsewhere, was bit in the exact same spot during this training abduction by a reptilian.
The same spot on the neck where I indicated.
I had never talked to this person.
And, you know, we had no communication between each other.
We both contacted Joe independently.
But that's...
It shows sort of a commonality in how the reptilians behave, or at least that technique of biting that they use.
And in both of our cases, they didn't break the skin.
They bruised the hell out of us.
And it was quite a shock.
And don't ask me how they managed...
I guess it's like when a dog bites you or a certain animal, it's able to pull back just enough not to break the skin, but...
It knocked me out, basically.
And in his case, it did knock the other guy out who got bit like that.
But it was definitely a parallel there where two people reported something or a detail that they shouldn't have been able to know independently.
Okay, and this happened to you when you were abducted before this one when you were in the police force.
I assume you were not in the police force in the previous one?
No, I joined the academy that was like March or April of 2005.
It was that spring of 2005 that I joined the New Orleans Police Academy.
Okay, but the earlier abduction was, you said, 2003, correct?
Right.
Back then, I was still working customer service.
I was not in the police yet.
Okay, so in this situation, you were bitten.
If you're going to talk about the first incident, can you kind of roll it back a bit and explain...
How you experienced the abduction?
You know, were you at home sleeping?
What happened?
And you sort of were there and so on and so forth.
In other words, can you give it a little bit more, fill in the blanks a bit?
Yeah, I was taken when I was fully asleep.
So I don't remember being taken to that place and being taken away from it.
I was just there.
That's where my memory picks up.
And...
I was facing those two reptilians, the one that attacked me, the other one that was just standing there.
And that's another thing that Joe Montato has testified to as far as what he calls initiation-type abductions of some reptilians, where they'll be really rough with you or aggressive, and one of them will attack you, and you have to fight back, and you're generally not going to win, but you have to at least try to fight back.
And the other one doesn't do anything.
They're just standing there.
And I wonder at the time, if I'm fighting with this one reptilian and this other reptilian is a foot away, why isn't he helping his friend?
Why is he just standing there looking at us?
And, well, it turns out that's something that happened.
Because the other one was grading me.
So the one who's standing next to us is grading my performance, basically, without saying it out loud.
And, you know, so it is good I ran...
Even ran across Joe by accident because he had, being kind of well-known in the area and appearing in papers, when people have had experiences like this, especially abductees, they tend to contact him.
But there's not much else to say about the 2003 abduction.
The store, like I said, the shelves were empty.
The lights were on.
It was like fluorescent lights.
But it looks like they closed down convenience stores I didn't see any logos.
I didn't see any names inside the store.
But that was...
Okay, so you were abducted.
The thing bit you and then you stood there.
I mean, is it just because that's all you remember in that incident?
But did anything else...
I yelled the F word very loudly.
And I passed out.
And then that was the end of the abduction.
So that was a pretty brief abduction.
There's not much else I can extract out of that.
Okay, so to move on to the other one, then, what happened with that other one?
The main one, I guess.
July of 2005, that was the big one.
And big because, as I'm talking to you today, the types of scenario the reptilians are preparing for, which is essentially taking back the mall from looters or rioters, we've...
You know, I first started talking about these experiences in 2010.
I waited years before I started talking about this.
I just couldn't...
It's hard.
Even when I have an experience now, I usually wait like a year before I write the article or on Phantoms and Monsters or tell anyone it's...
But...
The 2005 abduction was very chaotic, because there was a lot of people involved, a lot of humans, a lot of reptilians, and they had us in this mall, and these reptilians were testing these backpack-type weapons.
I sent you a collage that included exact wood kind of at the back, but they're very slim.
Imagine someone strapping a laptop to their back, and these power, these sort of laser heat weapons...
I don't know if they're microwave or infrared or what kind of laser technology, but when they strike something, it produces a tremendous amount of sparks.
And they had garbage cans set up, they had some lampposts set up, so they had sort of like a target gallery for themselves.
And it doesn't make a lot of noise, but the flash and the sparks, what they do is they'll have some humans stand near something and then shoot the object.
And basically shower you in the sparks and the noise, and it kind of works like a flashbang, but at much higher capacity.
But that was only like a third of the reptilians who had those backpack weapons.
The other two thirds had no weapons at all, just like their claws, their fangs, that was it.
And...
Okay, now wait.
This is a little confusing, so I'm going to need you to back up here.
So you were abducted with a bunch of other people, and you saw those other people, I assume.
You were all in one room.
Is that the idea?
We were in the center of the mall.
So you were all abducted to a mall?
Yeah, and based on what other people...
Okay, and...
It was Mall St.
Vincent in, I believe, Shreveport.
Just based on the lampposts, there's a Piccadilly's cafeteria in it.
So it wasn't right next to where I lived.
It was like a couple hundred miles away, but they apparently got us there pretty damn fast.
My memory picks up with me being taken to that.
Actually, on the 2005 abduction, if I take that to the very start of it, I was on board a...
I thought it was a train car at the time.
It was not a train car.
It turned out to be like a cigar-shaped craft.
But when I first came to, I was packed into like sardines.
And I just presumed from the shape, it was me and all these other humans, I couldn't see any...
You imagine being packed in a really small train car without any of the hangers or the straps or anything to stabilize yourself.
And...
That's my first memory.
I'm in there.
I'm dressed in these dark BDUs.
I don't remember dressing myself in them.
Next, there's a big bang.
We hit something.
The lights go out.
The lights come back on.
Suddenly, we're all going out the one door that opened.
It took me a while to realize what the hell that was.
This was a cigar-shaped craft that was landed on the...
You know how most malls have those slanted...
Ports for trucks, like in back, the loading dock.
That's correct.
So we had landed the scar-shaped craft on the loading dock, just like you'd land an 18-wheeler, where they backed them up on those slanted loading docks.
And we were...
So that's how we actually got into the mall first.
Just chronologically, you know, take it to the beginning of that story.
And then as soon as we were in the mall, and the mall was lit very poorly...
There were industrial lights, like those yellow fold-out lights that you just put up for construction.
And it was quiet, it was dark, and suddenly these reptilians are in the dark.
There's loud bangs from them shooting some of these garbage cans and shooting some of these objects, and they're chasing us towards the center of the mall.
And we basically corralled, I guess the proper riot term would be kettled, in the middle of the mall as a structure.
And after they do that, they start systematically frisking us one by one for weapons.
And the way the reptilians were doing the frisk on this, and again, let me indicate the reptilians in this mall.
Again, brownish-green scales.
They look like the ones back in my 2003 abduction, honestly.
Although I couldn't recognize, because there were so many of them, if any of them were the same exact two that were there.
But they started frisking us...
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
So, what did they look like?
Can you describe them?
Okay, golden...
The eyes were, I'd say, sort of a dark yellow, like gold.
The broadest...
The short muzzle...
If you look at that image in that collage I sent, that blunt, short, really not that different from, if you've seen the Sumerian statues of reptilians, if you're familiar from Iraq, those figurines, in terms of the head shape and just the general shape of the face.
A short, wide, kind of blunt muzzle.
Brownish-green scales.
And pretty well built.
You know, six and a half, seven feet tall.
Well, I'd say over seven.
I mean, you know, let's see, I'm 5'10".
And these guys, they felt like they were foot taller than me.
And I could be off by like three, four inches either way.
You know how the whole joke about the difference between 5'10 and 6 foot is like...
But that was...
That's the best.
I mean...
Again, no logos on their uniform.
Black uniforms.
They did have uniforms.
They weren't totally enclosed, but no logos.
They kind of looked form-fitting.
And two-thirds of them had no weapons at all.
One-third had those backpackers, real thin backpack weapons that were very powerful when they shoot and shoot you indirectly and basically shower you with sparks and light to disorient you.
And that's...
Okay, yeah, I mean, so you're in this mall with a bunch of other people.
Why did you say you were getting...
Are you talking about the reptilians training each other?
Are you talking about the reptilians training you about crowd control or rioting?
What are you kind of saying with that?
They were the ones being trained.
And we were being used as the sort of role-play objects to train them.
You see nowadays, sometimes the military will pay people, you know, here's $40, $50, go to this location, and the National Guard will practice crowd control and use you as actors.
You know, you'll hold up fake picket signs, that kind of...
So they were the ones training, and we were just sort of the extras.
I mean, in my case, my rank was advisor.
That's what I was referred to as an advisor.
At one point, from one reptilian commenting to another.
And that's how I learned.
I didn't come to me and give me his honorary title and say, I heard another.
Well, in English, speaking to another about me and saying, you know, if we get orders that conflict with the advisor here, I'm going to go with the advisor.
It's like, okay, that's, I guess, somewhat flattering.
Although, having a college degree...
Being an advisor, which is the equivalent of a lieutenant, that's the lowest rank you probably could give me.
It's not that respectful.
We have military advisors.
The U.S. does in Afghanistan, Iraq.
If you're an advisor, it's pretty far down the totem pole.
But to answer your question, yeah, they were the ones training.
And they were using not just the backpack weapons, they also had these And Joe Montalos talked about this based on what other people have seen.
These sticky, these like shot grenades, real small shot grenades they'd throw at people.
And it would stick to them.
And it's like a throwable taser.
I didn't see those used personally.
Some other people there saw those being used.
And they also were testing healing devices in another area of the mall.
They actually had a sign up in English that said triage in the food court.
I didn't see that personally.
Again, this is other police and military who were there.
And when I say other police and military, a few of these were detectives.
One of these guys was one of the highest-ranking guys in the NLPD. And a lot of reptilian abductees end up in law enforcement, believe it or not.
That's something even Red Elk, if you remember Red Elk on Art Bell, used to talk about.
He talked about it on his blog.
He's always getting contacted by people who were detectives in different states.
We're reptilian abductees, and they go on to police, and they make detective real fast.
And it just sort of attracts...
I don't...
There's various, I think, reasons why, because if you're a reptilian abductee, you do have reptilian DNA to an extent, and it affects your personality and the decisions you're going to make.
But...
I can tell you there was sort of a Rashomon element of different people in the mall seeing different parts of what happened.
Because it was very chaotic and some of us didn't see the healing clinic where they literally had reptilians on stretchers.
In some cases of cut and stab wounds.
And the humans there were learning how to use these healing devices to heal the cuts and the stab wounds.
I didn't see that.
Some other people there did.
I just saw using the backpack weapons.
The frisking people, the frisking technique, I'll never forget that because it's so different from a human or any human.
I looked up a whole bunch of frisking techniques right after trying to find one like that.
I've never seen anyone else do that where they'll be facing you directly and lock arms with one arm and maintain eye contact the whole time and then frisk you with the other free hand while never breaking eye contact.
It's a really weird thing.
It's really unique to that, the way they do it.
Although I could see the wisdom of, if that enables them to telepathically tell if you're about to run or attack them, why they would do that.
Humans, if we're going to frisk you, we put you face away from us, we put you against the wall, we put you against the car, we don't look you in the eye, staring you down, pat you down.
Okay.
Now, wait a minute, because you said that the other humans said this or they said that.
So this is a group of people that you know in real life, so-called real life, right?
No, these are all law enforcement and military who contacted Joe Montato independently.
He's talked about this on various shows, his own show.
Okay, are they people that you knew or just happened to be random other police individuals around the country?
They were all Louisiana.
And in some cases, the guy who was bit, he was actually a National Guard reservist.
And I believe on full duty at the time, but he was not actually on the police.
So that's why I say police and military.
They're mostly police.
There were some guys there who were not police and were military.
Okay.
And these people have...
How many of these people contacted this individual, Joe Mantaldo?
As of last count, it was around 15.
Okay.
And the reason they contacted him is why?
Well...
He actually publicly went on Coast to Coast AM. God, this was months after Katrina.
Because he had been contacted by a whole different group of police and military who were abducted to the mall, but saw reptilians in the city after Katrina.
I mean, they saw them walking around the city in small groups, patrolling.
And that was a couple of National Guard, a couple of NOPDs.
And that ended up in the paper.
That ended up on the radio.
That's how I even heard it.
I was listening to Coast to Coast AM because...
And that's something I listened to like five nights a year.
I didn't listen to a lot of UFO radio or paranormal radio.
I just happened to be listening that night.
And he happened to say that.
I'm like, oh my god, those are the reptilians I trained in.
In July, because Katrina happened two months later, I'm like, those are the same ones I trained.
Okay, wait, wait.
Now you're saying you trained the reptilians.
I thought the reptilians were training each other and you were like the bait.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I was only an advisor, basically, so technically they were training themselves and using me as As an extra or as an actor.
So, okay, wait a second.
So you, in a certain sense, you're putting yourself in a role of an intermediary between the humans and the reptilians.
Is that correct?
That's, well, that's just based on them referring to me as an advisor to them.
Whereas other people there...
They weren't given that designation, and from what Joe Montano has said, and again publicly on his radio show, not just in private correspondence, during this abduction I was standing more with the reptilians than with the other people, especially after we were done doing the frisking.
So that's when they got more into referring to me as an advisor, and I'm like, okay.
Okay, now why do you think you were an advisor?
Well, I mean, that, I think, became a lot clearer in my later deductions, like the ones in 2011, the ones in 2013, the recent ones.
I mean, I have, from my grandmother's side, you know, comes from some royal blood in Eastern Europe.
She was an abjecte, my grandmother, on my mom's side, and that's, you know, I have reptilian blood.
All right, are you German?
No.
I'm half Polish.
I'm half Jewish.
Okay.
So, my Jewish side, my half side, I had no indication of apoptise on that side at all.
But it was all on my mom's side that it came from my grandmother on that side, who didn't talk about abductions literally until she was about to die.
I just kept it in her whole life, and then she started talking about it.
Okay.
And was she abducted by reptilians or greys or what?
She...
Did not go into detail.
She just said, yeah, she had experiences.
They taught her how to fly craft.
She had no history of mental illness or anything.
She was an x-ray technician and a fairly smart person.
And just right before she was going to die, she's like, yeah, they were taking me up there, teaching me how to fly craft.
And she seemed to be pretty proud of that, that they let her fly craft for them.
And we've seen...
If you look, there's a lot of cases of Bray Abbeckies being trained how to fly craft, too.
So I can't say for sure that she was having reptilian abductions, but since basically almost all of my abductions have been reptilian, I'm presuming that.
But I can't say that for certain.
I'm not going to put words in her mouth.
I don't know.
But I do know that's where the abduction line came from.
Fair enough.
Now, backing up to Joe Montaldo, you're saying he's a radio talk show host, I assume?
Is that correct?
He runs ICAR, or I-C-A-R, and he runs UFO Undercover Radio, and he's been on, he did that big alien blood.
Did you hear about the alien blood type study?
Where they were abducted blood, where they were trying to see Nordic alien abductees, people were abducted by reptilians, people were abducted by greys, to see if certain blood types...
Correspond to being abducted by certain types of aliens.
He did that big study.
No, I wasn't...
I'm not aware of a current study of that sort, but it makes logical sense that they would do that.
So people participated, I assume, voluntarily, hopefully, in the study, I mean.
Yeah.
Probably not in the abductions necessarily, but at any rate, so to back up, so Montaldo has your talk show, but you...
It sounded like you said the first time when you heard about this and the reptilians or other people being abducted by them, it was on Coast to Coast.
Did I get that wrong?
He was the guest.
He was the guest talking about that.
Okay.
And what year was that?
Do you know?
That was 2006, I believe.
All right.
2006.
Okay.
Very...
So have you ever met or talked to any of these people, other than hearing about them through Joe?
I drove all the way back down to New Orleans back in 2011, somewhere to try and meet some of these people, and they were all still on the police, they were all still on the military.
I left in 2007 because I had a real bad off-due camera accident.
But the problem is these other witnesses, they all got promoted, they stayed in the job.
As you know, until recently, if you're on the police or you're a pilot or a doctor and you're still getting paid, you generally don't talk about these things.
I pushed.
I literally drove down there, tried to meet these people in person.
I had one guy who was going to, and his wife's like, no way, don't meet this guy.
He could be an NSA or some government agent.
I remember joking.
I'd drive a Ford Focus.
For God's sakes, I'd have a nicer car if I was a government agent.
So no, I have not personally...
I just know that they all stayed on the job.
Because of that, they did not want to go public.
And I understand.
Okay, so you're saying...
I believe you're saying that you're the only one that you know of that group that has gone public.
Is that correct?
Partially public.
Like even today, I'm giving you my name, Matt R. I'm not giving you my last name.
But I do...
I do, as I said, you have proof that I was on the police in New Orleans during Katrina.
I stayed during Katrina.
I was one of the few hundred who stayed in downtown through that as well.
And it at least gives me some testimony that I have some kind of stability that I was able to stay through that, which was helped by that reptilian You know, the experience in the mall.
I can't lie.
If I didn't have that experience, I might have left.
Because when we were halfway through the academy and the storm started, they sent us down.
Whenever you're in the police academy in New Orleans and the storm hits, you get sent downtown to help.
Even though you're not allowed to just leave like everyone else.
So after Katrina hit and everything fell apart, they were telling us recruits, look, we don't have food, we don't have water, and we didn't for two weeks.
We had We had no drinkable water, almost no food.
It was a nightmare.
And they're like, if you can get out, just leave.
We can't pay you.
We can't feed you.
And a lot of recruits left.
And they were allowed to come back because they were ordered by the superior officers, hey, get out of here.
But some of us said, no, we're not going to leave.
And we stuck around for a day and they gave up and just started saying, okay, and we'll put you on the payroll.
And I got sworn in in that picture I sent you.
You know, on the street there with the bus parked on the sidewalk, and that's, you know, but would I have been able to stay like that when they're saying, hey, you can go or need to go without the benefit of what happened with that reptilian training?
The answer is probably no.
So I do have to thank the reptilians for giving me that boost of training and that confidence to make it through that.
Okay, so you're abducted, but you're trained, and you're also an advisor, and you're thanking them for abducting you because they, now you're saying that they weren't training each other, they were training you.
They were training each other.
Okay, and they're training you to do what?
To be a police officer, or...
In this kind of experience, as an advisor, I can't give orders, but I can give advice, basically, as a consultant.
The kind of thing you'd see in business, but not...
In our world, you have business consultants who come in as a third party and evaluate a business and provide their own, here's how I do things differently.
And the reptilians have that same position in their military, even though we don't do that in our military.
So I would request suggestions and ideas from me, because being a native on the surface world, there's things I'd know that they wouldn't.
And I'd basically be an idea vending machine for them if they don't know what's going on with this or that.
Like an Amazon Echo or Something you drag around and just get ideas.
Okay, so my impression is that you think these were good reptilians that had the best interests of the humans in mind and they had decided that crowd control needed to be augmented on the human side and they also wanted to train their own team or whatever?
This was about training the reptilians to be ready To be used in a crowd control capacity.
To be used by whom?
By humans?
By our own military.
By our military.
So it's basically what you're saying is the military and the reptilians working together in a training session and you were one of the abductee but slightly above that level because you became an advisor as well, correct?
Correct.
Yeah.
And again, having that rank just sort of thrown at me and not knowing until years later why they'd give me that rank based on my genetics.
Of course.
Well, no, that's how they operate.
They're a hierarchy.
And it's totally based on bloodline and all of that, in terms of the reptilians.
So that would make sense.
But, I mean, this is quite unusual to hear about the reptilians working with...
I mean, I'm aware that the reptilians work with the military, but...
in our best interest, but that's another matter.
So you're saying this was a very, like a positive experience.
And even though in the previous time you were bitten or whatever, but that's just like maybe their way of sort of pushing you around or whatever a bit to establish their dominance.
But so you're in this situation and could you describe a little bit more like a movie, what happens or is that the end of that, of your recall of that abduction training session, whatever you want to call it.
Thank you.
There's nothing else that I personally recall.
The 2005, the mall abduction, there's really no other detail other than the fact that they were using...
You know how malls have those shutters that come down when they're closing stores, the rolling metal shutters?
They were separating people out into different stores and using those as holding cells for different people.
They weren't indicating to anyone, not even meaning why they were separating people in the different categories, higher risk, lower risk, I don't know, but they were...
That's really the last sort of detail.
There was that sticky shock grenade thing they were testing.
There was the healing clinic area where humans were using the thing.
As far as what I saw, the thing I remembered most was those backpack weapons.
And also another aspect I remember, I was standing next to a reptilian while another reptilian was shooting one of those weapons.
I noticed the side of his head in the dark was so reflective.
That it was almost like a mirror.
I could see the light bouncing off and I could see almost behind me.
So the scales were...
I guess because of the way the light and the angle, just the scales...
So they weren't dry.
They had a sort of shine to them.
Almost that mirror-like shine in the back of his head.
Okay, so did you like those reptilians then?
You felt good with them?
Is that the idea?
I felt the emotion and the energy I felt from them was they were taking this very seriously and very gravely.
They were preparing for something very dangerous, and it was going to get really bad.
And crowd control, as you can see, with all these riots around the world happening today, it's extremely...
It's a horrible thing.
You're going to get stabbed, shot, have Molotov cocktails thrown.
It's like being a free-roaming prison guard.
You see the turnover in the prison guard industry.
I didn't get the sense they were sadistic or really excited about doing this.
This is a very grave, serious thing.
And that really struck me, the seriousness.
This wasn't fun to them at all.
This was like, we're going to have to do this at some point, and this is really going to be bad.
Because in a training environment, and when you're simulating something like that, versus the real-life thing, it's always a lot worse in real life.
So I get that, but that was the predominant...
But I just felt like someone else tasked them to do this job.
This is not something that they...
I appreciate that.
Okay, so that was in essence that sort of abduction experience that you remembered.
And that happened, if I understand it, one year into your serving as a police officer.
Is that correct?
I was still in the academy.
Oh, you were still being trained as a police officer.
Yeah, that was July.
So I had very little experience at that point.
So it affected me so deeply in terms of thinking of my own capabilities, my own skill level, and how I had to upgrade them.
When I was at the shooting range in the academy, I would try and fire my...
See how quickly I could do rapid fire.
At one point when we were doing the driving course...
Before the driving course, they did this video, and they told us how the roll bars in our specially modified police cars, you cannot flip that car over on a non-rainy day, no matter how hard you take an angle.
So I went out there on that driving course, and I tried to flip the car over just because they said, because of this roll bar, you cannot flip the...
Sway bar, they have these things underneath that make it, you can't flip those cars.
They say.
So I'm like, okay, let me try and flip this car just because they said you can't.
So it did push me to, I guess, push the limits.
Okay, so this experience inspired you to become better.
Is that correct?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, I remember the first thing I did after Katrina was...
I bought a rifle, a state-of-the-art rifle, that kind of matched...
It was a real ergonomic...
It's called the CX-4.
I actually still own it.
The Beretta CX-4 Carbine.
It's the rifle they also use in...
God, what's that sci-fi show?
The Battlestar Galactica, the remake, the newer one.
Because I was so inspired by how futuristic their weaponry was.
Those real ergonomic backpacks.
So yeah, it really...
It did inspire me in a lot of ways, so to speak.
And it also explained the 2003 abduction, because that was always hanging over my head, like, what the hell was that about?
I'm in a convenience store, I'm getting bit, and like, what the...
That made no sense at all until the 2005 abduction, and I was like, oh, okay.
Well, that's...
It's part of this bigger agenda of training reptilians in different size stores, you know, full-size malls, smaller convenience stores.
Okay, so again, you're saying training reptilians.
Well, they're the main ones being trained, but I'm sort of just the addition in terms of, you know, here's how to help us out.
I mean, they're the ones taking the initiative, and I'm just the native, you know, you see those old movies where they have a native advisor, a pathfinder on the boat, and I'm the native, the local native.
Okay.
So you believe that you were involved in...
You're calling it an advisory capacity in training reptilians.
And the reptilians were also training the humans.
I mean, this is really very, very interesting.
So, okay, now, can we go to, what is...
Let me say something real quick.
As far as, yeah, I had an experience where I was explicitly shown by them.
And again, this could be, you know, mind control.
They could have not been honest.
I feel they were honest.
But they showed me this red-scaled reptilian ancestor I had.
And this ancestor wasn't from, like, thousands of years ago.
This was from, like, the 16th century or 17th century, somewhere like the 1600s, where they bred this red reptilian's DNA into my line, which, you know, you always hear about reptilian bloodlines going back to Samaria, going back 10,000 years, 5,000 years.
I'm sure many of them do in the top, you know, 13 bloodline families or whatever, but my family, They didn't breed themselves in until, like, the 1600s.
And part of that was, I do, in addition to that grandmother being this, you know, an abductee, I have a long line from her of well-known psychics and, like, healers from her town.
One of them was so powerful, she was, you know, the village tried to kill her by poisoning her well.
She could heal by laying of hands and whatnot.
So I think that attracted the reptilians to my line, that's those psychic abilities.
And that's when they came in from what they showed me.
So I'm just getting to, okay, why would I be special?
Why would I be designated?
Why would they pick me for that?
Okay, okay.
So now, can we move on to other abductions that you've had?
In other words...
You have sort of a litany, right, going forward in the years?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Yeah, the 2011, that was...
When I went down in 2011 to try and find these other witnesses to get them to...
I had been contacted by the producer of this paranormal show who used to run Locked Up Abroad.
And he tracked me down by...
My post on Phantoms and Monsters.
I first started talking about this on the Phantoms and Monsters blog, a pretty popular blog, back in around 2010.
And he tracked me down by calling the Lon Strickle who runs it.
And he's like, hey, I would like to put your story on this new paranormal show we're doing.
Could you get other witnesses involved?
And I'm like, fine, yeah, I'll drive back to New Orleans.
I haven't been there in years.
I'll try and get some of these other guys to appear.
And I failed to do that, but it would have been for free anyways.
And all these people still being in the police and serving on the military, jeopardizing their job and appear on a TV show where they don't even get paid.
I can understand the hesitancy to do that.
So that ended up not going through.
But as a reprisal to that, when I came back to Chicago in 2011, I had an abduction that It started with weeks and weeks of getting 3.33am voicemail messages.
So I kept getting voicemail notification 3.33, 3.33, 3.33.
And you check it and there's nothing.
Okay, wait a second.
By the way, I don't know what's going on with your, I guess it's your phone, I'm not sure, but you kind of are getting a little more scratchy and everything, so maybe, I don't know how you're holding the phone or what's going on, but at any rate.
Okay, let me make sure I'm holding it.
We probably have a lot of people, other people on the line right now because I've, as I indicated in email, I've had All right.
And you gave me a couple links where they are screaming or yelling or something.
And those are actually on my website.
I do want to say that for people.
So if you want to hear that, there's two, at least two soundtracks that he sent me that I did paste.
So you should be able to get them on the page on Project Hamlet.tv that has this banner on it, obviously, for this show.
And if you scroll down, you'll see the links.
But maybe you want to describe in under what context did that or did you you just got those somewhere or you got them?
You're on your own.
um That was for me appearing on two different shows in 2013.
The Daniel Ott Show and later Joe Montaldo Show.
So it was two different occurrences.
And the reptilians would wait until the last five, ten minutes of the show.
In the Daniel Ott case, he made a joke about shooting them.
And you hear a reptilian come in almost instantly if that groffle.
And what's funny about that is Daniel Ott, he was on video, on his site, With his hands on the table, nowhere near a button, a sound effects button.
And he made that joke, and within half a second, that reptilian on the line reacted to him making that comment.
And the next appearance was on the Joe Lontaldo show, where Joe went and did audio analysis of the first growl.
He did it for an hour and a half, and towards the end of the show, a reptilian comes in and just goes off for two minutes of growling and all this God-knows-what And the third thing, though, is I sent you a YouTube channel, Sovereign Key.
There's a woman on there who has a Skype conversation with a friend that she posted, and when Killians come into that, they sound like the ones that were on mine.
So Skype is an open book to them.
They can hack Skype very easily.
I'm not sure why, but they do come in.
And I've had it happen where I wasn't on a radio show and I wasn't recording it.
But those are the two times I recorded it, two different radio shows.
And so when you hear interference and I'm talking to you, sometimes it's hard to tell if it's military, sometimes it's hard to tell if it's reptilian.
It's usually both.
The reptilians aren't going to knock me off of the line.
The military sometimes will to mess with me, knock everything down.
But I've never gotten a message from reptilians to shut up or stop talking.
And that seems to be a common thing for a lot of reptilian abductees, where they're never...
Gray abductees, they'll be told, hey, stop talking about this.
Reptilian ones, we will not...
They generally don't come in and explicitly...
They don't make that request, and they haven't made that request to me.
If they did, I wouldn't actually be doing this interview properly.
I'd respect that request if they...
Okay, so let me ask you this, and by the way, I have been contacted by one or two people who have been abducted on a regular basis by reptilians, and they actually have been told not to talk about it.
They were women, whether that's an issue, I don't know.
And there is a guy named Ben who was involved in the Heather material going way back in Camelot who was being...
Having interactions with reptilians on a regular basis in Florida as it happens.
So that's kind of interesting.
But at any rate, so that part of the country, you're in Louisiana and he was in Florida.
Now, you're...
Are you aware of the different breeds of reptilians and such?
Or have you been told anything about the different breeds?
Because are you aware of what are called the raptors?
And do you know what a raptor looks like?
I mean, most people do because of Jurassic Park and, you know, the raptors.
They kind of look like that.
They're different looking than it looks like your picture.
But I wondered if you were interacting with raptors because the raptors are working.
With the Air Force and have for quite a number of years, even since the days of the...
What's that?
You know, the war the Britons had down in the southern part of the Caribbean.
Okay, the Falklands.
I don't even know if that's the Caribbean really technically, but it's south of there, I think.
So at any rate, in answer to my question, do you have an answer?
Yeah, well, I have not seen any, I guess we call dinoid type.
I know a lot of people have.
I personally have not seen any dinoid types.
Many people have seen them.
They're different subspecies or different group.
But never once in my experience, I recall, have I ever personally interacted with any other dinoid type of.
Okay, then when.
Okay, I'm kind of trying to see.
I'm looking at this picture and your reptilian looks reptilian, but they do appear humanoid.
So their head structure, for example, did they ever or have they ever...
Explained what race they are.
There are reptilian humanoids that actually look more human than reptilian in a sense.
So there is that breed.
I believe they're called reptoids.
I don't know if your group is a reptoid or whatever.
There's probably thousands of different races of reptilians, maybe even more, at least visiting Earth.
So, any idea what they're called or what their designation is?
They certainly don't appear to be Draco and they don't appear to have wings.
So, any thoughts?
Well, I have not been given any names that I recall.
So, I've never...
Once heard a racial name or a spatial name.
I mean, I... So that, as far as names, no.
I don't recall.
I mean, I've had experiences of them where they clearly speak...
Verbally speaking English, but I have not gotten the...
This is my name.
This is my friend's...
No.
Or this is our race.
This is what we're called.
No.
I mean, closest history lesson was being shown that Red Reptilian who...
And they didn't give me his name, but they gave me an impression that he was somewhat important, well-known, and it's fascinating because later on...
To go back, though, to the 2011, to complete that real fast, the 2011 abduction, I had this really big...
Basically, this is where I just...
After the 333M voicemail, I was getting him down stop for weeks, which was like...
I figured it was a military proposal for...
Me going out of 2011 trying to counteract these other people.
Because if something like that happens, I don't know if it's reptilian or military, so I'm not going to guess.
I presumed it was military, but I was wrong.
It turns out it was reptilian.
Because I had this experience where I'm being dropped on my bed physically, and I go to sleep the night before, and the next thing I remember, I'm just being dropped.
And I look up You get that feeling of sort of falling, and you wake up, and there's this reptilian leaning over the bed, and he's so wide and so tall, and this was bigger than the ones I trained with even.
I'd say he was closer to eight foot or something, but also really wide, but wearing a really dark cloak, a dark red cloak.
Cloak with sequins in it that reminded me of a paisley shape.
Like, imagine silver paisley.
Imagine paisley on a dark red cloak outlined in, like, a really nice-looking cloak.
Like, you know, I compare it to a nice, I guess, damp outfit, not to be offensive.
And the thing's leaning over me, and my first thought is, oh my god, a refrigerator is falling at me.
You know how when you wake up and you're not fully or you come out of something and you're just not fully there?
Because he's leaning over me and my brain is like, there's a refrigerator falling on me and I jump out of the way and he turns around and walks away slowly.
But he clearly took me back and dropped me on top of my bed.
But I don't remember talking to him, interacting.
Obviously we had some conversation or You know, maybe he threatened me.
I got, or did a rich, I don't know.
But all I remember of that is him dropping me on the bed and walking away in that really nice, very specific cloak he was wearing with the hood on me, too.
So I couldn't get facial features, but he was bigger.
Okay, so that was 2011, and you don't remember anything else happening in that incident.
Then can you give us a couple other incidents that might explain the training session that you were in that had a lot of police officers and you said members of the military.
Have you been involved in something like that since then?
Yes, I have.
And real quick, just to tie off the 2011 experience, the 3.30 a.m.
call, that like stopped after he came.
So I don't know if I agreed to something or whatever, but that stuff just like stopped from every night to stopping.
Okay, well, yeah, let's drill down into this.
What are you talking about when you say a 33, let's say 3.33 call?
I mean, your phone would ring and there'd be nobody there.
I mean, what are you saying?
It was a phantom voicemail notification.
So it's like 3.33am, you see...
Every day you wake up, clear your last night's notification, get a new notification.
At 3.33am, somebody left you a voicemail.
You open it up and there's no voicemail.
And I even contacted Sprint.
I'm like, how am I getting...
Voicemail notifications for voicemails that aren't there and they could not explain it.
It kept happening over and over and apparently it was preparing me for this visit from this huge reptilian in this cloak.
Okay, that's actually hilarious and that's great.
Okay, so since then, after that, was it after that that you got more information or had an abduction that related to, again, this training type thing?
After 2011?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, the thing that explains better what they're doing and their plans and how they plan to handle things like crowd control are these my labs I've had recently.
And this gets really weird as far as just, you know, kind of out there.
This was back in January 24th of 2018.
And this was...
I wake up.
I'm underground.
And I'm on a slanted table.
You know, bright white room.
Like an operating room.
But I'm not all the way back.
I'm like at a 45 degree angle.
And this room has human doctors.
It has at least one gray alien.
It's like the first time I've ever seen a gray.
There's a reptilian.
It's like a really...
It's crowded, but I'm literally...
I look over on...
My right arm, and it's cut open.
Except, I'm like, I'm really anesthetized, so I'm trying not to laugh.
So it's a really weird reaction.
I'm having the wrong reaction.
And I start getting really concerned because I'm fighting the urge to laugh, and I'm cut open, and you don't want to move or jiggle around or anything.
But I'm not feeling pain at all.
I'm just fighting this urge to laugh.
And they're putting these Real thin, like, sheets.
Like, you remember those brush strip sheets, those real thin streets that you put on your tongue and they dissolve?
Rectangular.
You know what I'm talking about?
I think you mean sort of like a bandage, but that it dissolves or becomes part of your body?
Yeah.
A rectangular cleat, like a thin, imagine something, you know, thick as like five sheets of paper or three sheets of paper, kind of thin, gel, Remember fruit roll-ups?
Remember those?
No, but I wasn't much into candy as a kid.
But I think people get the description.
So what's the point?
What has that got to do with anything?
They were sliding them on top of my bicep.
So you were being augmented, is what your understanding is, as a MyLab-ish kind of situation.
Yeah.
Okay.
And the reptilians?
Go ahead.
Well, at one point, the reptilian, during his experience, he makes this...
The only thing that was spoken to me is the reptilian makes a comment about how you, you know, feel free to use that not as intended.
And I'm like, not as intended?
What the hell?
And that took me...
I figured out exactly what he meant later on.
But I wake up and I expect to have, like, you know, slice marks over my damn body because they also...
They did on my legs.
They did...
Several groups like this, and I didn't, but I also had this telepathic sense from them that they can slice you open for this laser surgery they have and heal it to where you can't even see the scar mark at all.
But it has to be healed right after the cut.
So if you cut yourself open and come to them a week later, there's still going to be a scar.
They've got to clean the scar tissue out.
But if they cut you open, they can use those same types of healing devices they used back in the mall, and they can seal up a wound and it's like they zipper the cells back together.
That's the way, like, they literally gave me that scent.
They can just, they can heal it up like that.
I was shocked.
Okay, Randy Kramer has, I don't know, do you know who Randy Kramer is, the super soldier who's been on Mars?
I interviewed him.
He's spoken on the circuit quite a bit.
He's out there.
You can look him up.
He went by, originally came out under the name Captain K. But he really goes by his own name now.
He's a Marine, and he claims he's been on Mars and the Moon fighting aliens and so on.
Anyway, he talked about a technology that they have that can do what you're talking about.
So that's not outrageous.
That does make sense.
So you're saying you witnessed that in your own case.
Is that the idea?
Well, yeah.
I did tons of research for weeks trying to figure out what the hell...
How is it possible to do these types of transplants?
And then I found the military, our military has officially, we did this with pig bladder.
We took pig bladder and we made sheets just like I saw.
These rectangular thin sheets of cells that you cut someone open, you lay it over the muscle, it dissolves into it to correct muscle injuries, and within days people are stronger.
And they did this back like four years ago publicly, officially, except they were using pig cells.
And in my case, they gave me the impression these were reptilian cloned, like cloned cells from a reptilian.
They didn't cut a reptilian open and take its muscle tissue.
They cloned reptilian muscle cells artificially, and they're putting them in the people.
And not just me.
Like I was like an assembly line.
There was a whole bunch of other people who were given the same procedure as me.
Okay, are these males and females or just males?
Thank you.
They might be using it on females.
I know that they gave me the impression of using it on a lot of people.
They didn't show me specific faces and say, here's the 80 people, 100 people, 2,000 special forces were using the sun.
But I was definitely just sort of part of a mass group of people they've done this particular enhancement to.
But the thing is, there was nowhere in my subconscious that thought this type of transplant of muscle tissue was possible until I went after the experience and researched it.
If you would have told me Muscle transplants, I would have laughed at you.
It's like, you can't transplant muscle, but you actually, with stem cells, this is public technology.
Look up pig bladder, stem cell, muscle, and look at when they've cut people open, put these rectangular sheets on them, just like I saw.
But I had no way of knowing this technology existed until I saw it in the abduction and looked it up afterwards.
It's what I'm saying.
It was never a TV or TV show.
And I appreciate that.
But, so, under the circumstances, you had, you, you, what year was this, do you know, when you were doing, getting on my lab?
This was 2018.
So, very recently.
So, now, do you feel stronger, is the question.
Do you feel augmented in your physical body?
It, The main way this helps, from what they taught me, it increases pain tolerance.
It reduces fatigue.
But as far as making you a lot stronger, it doesn't do that, but it does, if I were to get shot or stabbed or something, I wouldn't feel nearly as much pain as a regular person.
And also, I had this feeling ever since the surgery, and for days later, I still feel it.
Imagine if someone cut you open and put a t-shirt on underneath your skin, like you have something under your skin.
It's this weird feeling of another layer under your skin, like when you put on a new pair of glasses.
Okay, well, let me ask you something.
Did it feel like sort of tight?
You know, like new skin or something?
It wasn't unpleasant.
It was just like wearing an extra t-shirt.
Like if I put on two t-shirts instead of one t-shirt.
So you had a layer underneath your top layer, is what you're saying?
Yeah, but the one negative side effect was for about five months after I would wake up every half hour or so for about a few seconds, look at the clock, go back to bed.
Wake up every half hour, look at the clock, go back to bed.
And I did some research on that, and from what I can tell, a lot of reptilians on Earth have shorter sleep cycles, even though they sleep the same amount of time.
So they'll wake up every half hour, every hour for like two seconds to glance around and make sure there's no danger to go back to sleep.
And I was...
That tendency was transferred over to me and it was a nightmare.
I imagine waking up every damn half hour for just weeks and weeks and it went away fine.
My nervous system adjusted to it and recalibrated or something.
What gets really weird is around about June, same year 2018, I start noticing I'm way more sensitive to light with my eyes.
I start having to put extra layers of I cut up some Tupperware to put over my alarm clock because I'm just suddenly more sensitive to light visually.
I don't know what the hell that's about.
I'm getting these weird pink eye type symptoms where my eyes just break out and rashes.
I go to the doctor and it's not pink eye, but it's just like pink eye.
Eventually, months and months pass until I finally go to the doctor and find out that through an eye test they give me, My color vision has improved dramatically since, you know, back in 2005.
I had a lot of trouble with the colorblind test.
You know, New Orleans Cleats is a very easy colorblind test because they need the application really badly.
But I, you know, by definition, I'm kind of colorblind, even though I can see all the colors.
But I'm contrast blind, I guess, is the term.
So I can see red, yellow, blue, green.
But if you put a bunch of green and red dots or red and green and brown dots right on top of each other, I have trouble.
Except now, when I was given the full-color vision test at the eye doctor with 20 different slides, I got a 90%.
I used to only be able to get 30%.
All right.
So, yeah, you're being augmented.
Listen, you know, I just want to say to the audience, they are asking me, you know, we have a big chat room with the show, and I'll let them ask you questions towards the end here.
But they are wondering if I believe you.
And I, actually, I do.
And the reason is because I've heard stories like this.
And I myself was augmented a long time ago.
That I know of.
But to my knowledge, it certainly wasn't by reptilians.
But nonetheless, you know, aliens, of course, this is what they do.
They genetically re-engineer us constantly.
And they do have, like, individuals that are related to them that they, you know, go in and help.
And so this is, you know...
Going on, and I'm sure there's going to be more and more people coming forward with this sort of information.
So just so people, because they're wondering in the chat about this, what my thought is about what you're saying.
Now, that doesn't mean that everything is as you think it is, as you remember it, although you seem pretty lucid.
So it's not, and it's not out of the You know, question that something of this nature could be going on, especially it appears that you do have some, you know, a reptilian, legitimate reptilian background that would lead them to include you in certain things.
So, let's continue.
So, at any rate, so you became MyLab in 2018.
That's very, you know, recently.
Is there any other incidents that you want to discuss with us that kind of sort of explains what's going on and maybe any other interesting incidents that happened to you?
Yeah, I mean, I need to go back to experience at the end of 2016.
Where I did, this is the only time I've run into a, what I can qualify as a different species of reptilian, or I guess we'd call more the albino, like Draco reptilian types.
And that is, I literally, I woke up on this diamond-shaped table.
I don't know if you've heard, you know, hopefully you've had, you know, you've talked to a lot of people, but just, I'm going to give you the details, and maybe it'll line up with somebody.
Imagine a boardroom-type table.
Um, but shaped like a diamond with like wood trim on the outside, but the inside is stone, like a white sort of stone, but it's kind of uneven.
And I'm lying on it.
And there's this albino female reptilian above me.
And she's not very big.
She's, you know, about six foot.
And I know albino reptilians, some of them from people say like nine feet, 10 feet, eight feet, whatever.
And she's not that big.
And she's, um, yeah, a little...
Weight-wise, she's slightly overweight, not to disparage her.
But I wake up, and I'm looking at her, and the first thing she does is look at another reptilian in the room.
Because when I open my eyes, I'm just looking at her.
I'm not even aware there's another reptilian over to the side.
And this is not an albino.
This is like a brown-green, like the type I had in the mall, and the type I had in the 2003 experience.
And she looks to him and she says, ooh, I should eat him.
And it really sounded legit like if you were at a party or something and it's a tray of food, like, ooh, I should eat some of that.
Like she was going to eat me.
Or like she was fighting the urge to...
Sorry.
Okay, it's 4.08.
And I freak out.
And I take my right hand, you know, and I basically punch, I jab at her with my right hand.
And it's not like a conscious thing.
It's more of a, you wake up, there's this reptilian standing over you talking about, she should eat me.
And I just, you know, without thinking, throw a punch, and this reptilian on my right side, who she's talking to, grabs my hand, and he grabs it by the forearm, and And he bruises the hell out of my...
I took pictures of this, and there's an article, if you Google, Pathology of Reptilian Bruise Patterns.
Because there's another abductee I found who had the same bruise and the same shape, this sort of butterfly-shaped, really deep bruise.
And it actually ended up being a positive experience, because she was joking, I think, or half-joking.
She didn't kill me and hit me.
Okay, but...
Let me ask you, this albino, you called her an albino, more Draco reptilian, and why are you calling her that?
In other words, her skin looked slightly white, I'm assuming.
Did she have a humanoid head or human body structure, but a reptilian head, and what kind of reptilian head in that she was different?
It was a wide, it was kind of a blunt muzzle, sort of a wider head than the ones I was used to dealing with, but the scales were, they were white, white.
Like, they were pretty damn bright white.
And she wasn't, I don't recall her wearing anything specifically.
You know, I could see her from the waist up.
But this, you know, could she have been an albino, non-Draco, who was just a reptilian, who was an albino?
I guess.
Yes, but I mean, from what I've heard, you know, albinos tend to be draconian, is usually the designation.
Okay, that's interesting.
So, you didn't see, like, if she had a tail type of thing?
I did not get to look at her from behind to see if she...
I presume she did.
Like, the one...
That was not something...
I didn't get a really good look.
I got a good look from the stomach up.
You know, stomach the head.
But I didn't...
You know, as far as a tail and walking behind her or anything, that wasn't part of the experience.
Because the next thing I remember, she has me over in this alcove.
She has the reptilian who grabbed me by the arm and stopped me from, you know, punching her.
He takes me over to this...
I'd call it this...
You know, sort of like...
Again, it was Brick's...
In the wall.
I presume it was underground.
But there's this albino...
Now, this was definitely a wing Draco, because this guy had wings.
And he was really big.
And he had me try to imitate these poses he was doing with his wings.
And I only remember a few of the poses, but it was very...
The thing I remember most was her making that joke.
Me throwing that punch.
I took pictures of the bruises, but as far as why she sent me over to have me try and emulate what this draconian was doing, I remember telepathically getting the impression this was something to do with, and this is going to sound absolutely weird, is that I have psychic abilities.
Basically, I need to work on my psychic abilities more.
I never considered myself to be a psychic.
I was more psychic than the average person.
I came from a Catholic background and I never did channeling.
I never did anything in the area because I don't want to get involved with anything, demonic attachment or things of that nature.
But this was kind of like pushing me, okay, you got to start using your psychic abilities.
And the one thing I took away from this that really struck me was how she...
This female reptilian specifically told me to go rewatch a movie I'd seen years ago, which is Children of Men.
And I hadn't seen that movie since it came out in 2006.
And I'm like, okay, I'll go rewatch Children of Men.
And this was before the huge uptick in the whole immigration fight, the border fight about immigration.
And if you've seen Children of Men, which is one of the greatest films, it's a great film.
There's a fertility crisis, and it's in Britain.
And there's all this civil conflict over immigration and, you know, refugees coming in.
And at the time, I didn't realize, you know, it was like a psychic prediction, a specific prediction that, you know, that would become an issue in the country.
Okay, but why did she want you to watch it?
Because she was trying to show you that something...
It was depicted in that film that was going to then happen in our future.
Is that what you think she was telling you to watch it for?
Yes.
The immigration become a major, major hot political point.
It was really going to escalate, and it did.
It really exploded like a year after that.
All this drama about the border and people being piled up in those detention centers.
People were even saying, like you look on Twitter, Wow, this is just like Children of Men.
I'm like, oh my god, she specifically, I was told that.
And the funny thing was, at the time, I thought she was just recommending the film because she maybe knew telepathically I'm into, you know, good artsy type films.
And, you know, I thought she's like, I'm watching, I'm like, oh, wow, yeah, I forgot how good the directing and the cinematography.
This is a good movie.
That's a good recommendation.
But I didn't realize it was like, oh, this is going to happen.
Okay, so, but if you want to extrapolate, What's the point?
Why should they care if there's going to be an immigration issue?
Was this part, again, in parcel of this kind of idea that they're training humans, but they're also training each other to deal with a world in chaos?
Is that kind of what you were getting?
Yeah, I mean, it was going to set off a series of events politically that eventually will lead to pretty severe political unrest here in this country like we're seeing around the world right now.
Which at the time, you know, when I started talking about this, my first MUFON talk on this was like back in 2011, you know, here in Illinois.
And people were asking me, well, what's going to cause all these riots and civil unrest?
I'm like, I don't know, economic collapse, natural disaster, dirty bomb, you know, who knows.
But now we've seen in the world, as I'm talking today, people are rioting over very minor issues, you know.
In Iran, they burned down the central bank because gas prices went up slightly.
This rioting in South America over train fares went up and they burned the trains down.
We're not even at the point of full economic collapse or in natural disasters that are serious.
We're having a level of unrest where it's like, okay, I understand why the reptilians are preparing for this now.
I don't know if they used remote viewing or time travel or, you know, they just were very smart strategically.
I mean, they have very good psychics at their disposal like this female reptilian, so maybe they saw this happening in advance through remote viewing.
I appreciate that.
But I guess my point is that, again, your depiction here is as a reptilian group that's working with our military to some degree and our police officers involved in training, preparing for civil unrest, let's call it.
And you're involved and other police officers are involved in being trained.
Of course, some of them are remembering because they contacted Joe Mantaldo.
But at the same time, the interesting thing is, why do they care?
Now, is it your understanding that this group of reptilians decides they don't see normally chaos would be a great time to kill and eat humans?
And that indeed is what's going on in Syria, in war zones all the time, by the way.
And especially with refugees.
Refugees are...
Humans are being taken off planet in reptilian ships.
These are the negative ones.
In droves, in places like Syria, in war zones where they can't be traced.
And the number of refugees that never made it from...
who tried to leave Syria and...
Probably even Iraq and that area never made it to Europe even according to at least my witness Mark Richards who deals with the raptors a great deal.
So it's your understanding that these particular reptilians know this time of unrest is going to increase.
We've seen the beginnings of it now more or less although it's been going on for a few years and They're concerned about it.
They have concern and they want to sort of crowd control.
Which isn't to say they don't want to also maybe corral some of those humans into those different compartments you were saying where some can be eaten and others not.
Like, what is your real...
I mean, you're a reflective individual.
Where's your alliance?
Is your alliance...
Because you sound like you obey the reptilians unequivocally.
If they give you an order, you do it.
Are you loyal to humans or reptilians or both?
And what is your...
Perspective on why they really want to get involved here.
Well, I think what it comes down to with them is if you have a situation where all of our military and all of our police have these types of riots in their own backyard and we're pretty getting that way in a lot of countries, you have a state where so many forces are overwhelmed at the same time.
That you need another force to come in as an auxiliary to take over because they're just overwhelmed.
And the reptilians are very good at close-quarters combat.
I mean, they're very fast, they're very intimidating, and they're just naturally good at crowd control in the way that greys or nordics or humans just aren't on the screen.
It's something they can uniquely do very well because of that intimidation And because of their relative size and abilities Okay, now does it occur to you that the reason they want to get involved is because they basically want to be the controllers of the planet when this nice little bit of chaos starts to ensue in a big way?
So they're aligning themselves with the police and the military in a certain division of that group, looking ahead because once they're in crowd control, well, getting in positions of power and controlling humans, Non-stop appears to be definitely a reptilian, you know, wish list goal.
So, you know, are you thinking logically about this?
You see what I'm saying?
In other words, you appear to think that, oh, they're going to bring a order out of chaos, but order out of chaos is the new world order, okay?
Are you, like, aware of that?
Yeah, I'm not endorsing I'm just telling you, one of the reasons I'm even going public and talking about this is because I disagree with the way our military is handling this, and it reminds me of a Bay of Pigs type situation of sort of,
they have the reptilians as a resource to be used in crowd control, but they're trying to hold it back just like you would if a secret weapon or a nuclear weapon or a last ditch, you know, before you bring them in.
And by doing that, Especially the project I've seen now, like what was used on me and used on other people with stem cells and genetic alteration, where they're trying to create people that have been enhanced to reptilian DNA or reptilian cells, but they look like regular people, and they're trying to sort of have it both ways, where they want the benefit of enhanced...
I'm telling you something, by the way, right now.
They have already put enhanced people, people who've been enhanced with procedures like I talked about, Into these riots that you've seen it to try and control them, try and limit them.
They're doing that right now.
And they started doing that right when suddenly all this Navy UFO video came out and our government started officially admitting, oh yeah, UFOs are real, crafts are real.
And they basically admitted that to the public to make the public think that they haven't done biological research.
They haven't done all this deep underground genetic research.
So they want the public to think they're about 30 years behind where they really are.
And that's the whole point of being public about UFOs.
So yes, I'll admit there's deception going on and there's dishonesty going on.
And it's, you know, as far as faulting the reptilian, this cast reptilian that they want to use in these crowd control scenarios I don't get the impression that they get to make these decisions.
Their own reptilian superiors make the decisions.
Our deep black elements of our military make the decisions.
But as far as these reptilians themselves, I don't believe that...
At a certain level, yeah, I'd agree with that.
As far as the NWO and the high level, there's bad things going on.
But I think our own military...
The sort of dishonesty they're doing as far as putting modified troops on the streets right now in plain clothes.
And I need to emphasize that.
They are doing that right now.
And they're not going to announce it.
And a lot of people who talk about, you know, return of the Nephilim or the giants, they're not going to send giants next time.
Giants were a model of Nephilim made for combat thousands of years ago, engineered to win battles back when just being really big and having a really big axe won a war.
They're not going to use those next.
They're going to use things that look like people, or have been modified, or, you know, part person and part not, but they need them to blend in because of the proliferation of smartphones and cameras everywhere.
So people, that's, they need to be aware that's going on.
And yeah, I am biased.
I'll admit that.
I'm biased as far as in favor of the reptilians, or I'm not I mean, it's okay.
You know, I mean, people, even in the chat, you know, I think you need to keep an open mind and understand that this is the, you know, this is what we're facing in the future, okay?
These various beings have been vying for control over humanity for millennia, and there have been war of worlds going on, and the military, our military is completely...
fractionalized or whatever you want to call that, you know, broken up into factions that are fighting.
Some are fighting each other.
And, you know, there's various incidents that have happened, like I think the missile off the coast of California, for example, that one side of the military had no idea about and the other side shot it out there.
You know, in other words, this has been going on for a long time now.
The military does not agree with each other.
They are at war with each other because they are aligned with various races.
And that's not even to say how many races within the races there are of different breeds, etc.
So in this case, you've got an individual who has the courage to come forward And tell of his experiences.
And the reality is that I have to say he's right.
We know of my lab.
I mean, I'm a my lab.
We know that my labs exist.
Many people have told their stories about being my lab.
This individual is talking about his particular experience with regard to a certain group of reptilians.
But whether they ultimately know the end goal themselves, as you say, whether they're in charge, whether they are fully on board with an agenda that actually may look benign in the beginning or like they're helping, so-called helping the humans.
This is not, you know...
ETs have been demonstrating this sort of behavior for eons with humans.
Of course, the Anunnaki are notorious in that regard.
So they look like they're doing a good thing, but in the end they turn the tables and they take over.
This is the art of war.
For God's sake.
So this can be real.
As far as your story, I mean, I have to commend you for coming forward in this way.
And the future remains to be seen.
So whether you're correct, whether people will become more and more aware of this kind of thing or not, also remains to be seen.
But likely they will be.
And I have dealt with enough people in this regard to know that your story is not outlandish at all.
Actually, it's pretty in keeping with things I know.
So I think that it's great that you're talking about this.
I do want to caution you that even if you're among them, that you need to think about your loyalties and actually what their agenda really is.
So if you think that the individuals you're dealing with don't know what the end goal is, you might want to find out more.
And if you're among them and they do want to take over, and so you're basically one of their foot soldiers, so to speak, then They've sent you out because they want you to tell us.
Now, I can tell you that Captain Mark Richards has said to me that the reptilians want disclosure.
They want people to know who they are.
They are pushing for disclosure, especially in the Middle East, and they are fed up with the secrecy because First of all, in their culture, they have hierarchy.
They have might makes right, but they also have divisions, some of which are working with the humans or attempting to, some of which have completely aligned themselves with humans, which...
You know, is the raptors, for example.
The descendants of the Draco.
All of these reptilians are descendant from the Draco.
So there's a pecking order.
Draco, reptilians, greys.
All right.
And that's how it goes with them.
I just have to commend you and say that other than cautioning you as to what their real agenda is, it's great that you're talking about this and I hope you'll share more.
Is there anything else you want to say?
I can go over to the chat and take questions or you can sort of have some wrap-up comments for this section of the interview if you'd like.
Yeah, I appreciate your perspective on that.
As far as I get, people, if this sounds incredulous, but let me say one thing.
I did provide proof and visual proof that I was on the police during Katrina.
That's not something I made up.
I have a long history, even when I was a kid, of never exaggerating or making up stories or confabulating.
That's never been an issue for me.
I'm not saying, you know...
So I... This is not something...
And believe me, if I was going to add things in, I'd give them all names.
I'd have more exciting dialogue.
I'd have less gaps.
I'd have...
Believe me, I'd love to fill it all into fiction and make it a lot smoother, but that's how abductions are, where you have these complete gaps and things and just pieces of this and pieces of that, and you're trying to put it together.
And I'll admit, when you try and put it together, that's a problem, because then you're...
Adding in your own subjective view, but I do think, from just a practical perspective, the reptilians, if they see things get too unstable on this planet, as far as police forces and military forces breaking down and not being able to control rioting and insurrection like we have in Hong Kong and South America,
and right now in Iraq, I don't know if you saw the rioting there, they're like, okay, well, We have to step in and send some troops to stabilize things because there's just no one else who's going to do it if not us.
So I think it's possible from an Occam's Razor standpoint that they're really like, well, nope.
There's no one else that can stabilize things but us.
We just have to do it.
But I am going to open the door to the possibility that, yeah, there's also the NWL and these other plans that I can see the practical, I can see it their way as far as who else can step, who else can do the stabilization.
And I could see our own military looking at the reptilians as far as their talents and saying, hey, these guys can do crowd control really well.
When you send humans out to do crowd control, you get like the Arab Spring.
And when you get in the Arab Spring is...
When regular human military forces get overwhelmed in riots, they start shooting.
When they start shooting and people start dying, people get really mad and you get a revolution.
Whereas reptilians can go out there, clash with people, but not kill.
I know that sounds ironic.
Reptilians deadlier.
They can take more punishment.
They can scrap with people better where they don't have to pull out a gun and shoot somebody.
Like we saw in Hong Kong the other day, an officer, he got attacked by two people.
Pull out a gun, shot a person right there, point blank.
A reptilian won't get overwhelmed to the point that they have to use an equal force.
So ironically, using reptilians kind of guarantees that you don't get a body count, which then turns into people getting even angrier.
So I can see from that strategic standpoint why our own military would be like, you know, hey, this is a useful thing.
These guys are really good at ground control.
Because I know from my own experience, and I've...
I've been involved in martial arts and other things.
Growing up, I went to kind of a tough school.
I was in a lot of fights.
And I know one of the problems right now we have with overseas, with ride control, is they're using these rubber bullets and pepper spray and all these things.
Those don't work on really determined attackers.
You can't incapacitate someone just to paint.
If they're really angry, they're just going to keep coming at you.
And it's...
I can see from our own military perspective where they'd be like, hey, you know, we can use Reptilian just like we use Blackwater, just like we use these other contractors in Iraq to prevent a draft.
The reason we didn't have a draft during the recent Gulf, the second Gulf, is because we sent so many private contractors, not just Blackwater, but a lot of others.
If we didn't send them, we would have had a draft in this country.
I don't know if this country would have, you know, we would have The draft riots here would have been horrible.
So we had to send mercenaries to Iraq to prevent draft riots.
Sometimes the military, you know, they're just going to dig into that barrel for whatever they can find.
And that, I think, may include the Brexilians.
That's just my own perspective on things.
Okay.
Now, again, and I appreciate that.
So...
I kind of want to sort of close this down, but I want to make sure that we give the audience, if they have any questions, put them in caps.
Yes, I can take questions.
Yeah, just a couple, actually, because this is going on a while.
And we want to keep it in a manageable length so people will watch the whole thing instead of just turning it off halfway through.
So, what I want to ask you is, just offhand, do you have past life memories?
And do you have a past life memory of being in Nazi Germany?
I do not have past life memories.
The only past life memory I've recovered is of being like a pure energy type being.
That doesn't mean like a superior angelic, but more like, you know, imagine just that there are beings out there on other planets who are, you know, essentially like energy, just pure energy type beings.
So not in a superior way, again, not an embodied god or angel, just that they're, you know, they live in like nebulas and whatnot, and they have civilizations.
Imagine like jellyfish, but, you know, sort of non-physical type thing.
So that's the only memory I have is that I was a non-physical entity at one point or an entity that's, you know, more like just pure.
Okay.
So imagine a glowing image.
Yeah, no, I think you've explained that very well.
So now what I'm going to do is take questions from the chat and somebody wants to know if they're dressing as police officers and infiltrating the police ranks at this time to your knowledge.
No, but a lot of reptilian abductees end up going into law enforcement.
It attracts them.
They like the risk.
They like the danger of it and the military to an extent.
Also martial arts.
Martial arts attracts reptilian abductees as well.
But they're not going in to infiltrate on behalf of the reptilians.
They're just attracted to For me, I was never into the police because I liked the authority, or look at my uniform, or call me sir.
I wanted to be shot at.
I like the risky part, and that's the type of officers I hung out with.
The people who get off on the authority, that's not my...
Because there are people who go into that for that, and believe me, that's not my thing.
But I do think reptilians, that sort of adrenaline junkie type of...
Sure.
Okay, absolutely.
They certainly like that kind of thing.
Now, someone wants to know what color their eyes are, and you said they were gold.
Isn't that right?
Gold is a good, yeah, like sort of a dusty, yeah, slightly darker than regular gold, but gold is a good yellow gold, yeah.
Okay.
And then someone else wants to know, let's see, if you have ever been hypnotically regressed.
Yeah, I had Joe Montano, his wife, who's a licensed hypnotist, and she did regressions on me about what happened at the mall.
And I got a little more information out of that, you know, just about...
I'm not sure...
How much I personally trust regression, but it's just this other part of the 2005 abduction that I didn't fully recall, and that was this reptilian kind of lecturing me to take initiative, give ideas, don't just stand there, because I was kind of in shock at the time.
They're shooting these weapons off, there's people running back and forth, and this reptilian, it was like an Omaha Beach type thing.
I'm just I'm just sort of standing like, okay, what am I supposed to be doing here?
And the reptilian's like, hey, take initiative, start giving ideas.
So that's the only thing that got opened up, basically, on the regression.
There was no other grand revelation out of that.
But yeah, that was the one time I was regressed.
I see.
Okay, now what about someone wants to know whether you think they are controlling the deep state?
I think there's a lot of hybrids out there.
And like a lot of reptilian abductees, the amount of hybrids just walking on the street you're going to see in everyday life are very few.
But the amount you'll see in Silicon Valley or the celebrity sphere, it's a lot higher than normal.
They're not everywhere.
Not all the elite, but...
I can recognize who is and who isn't by body language, by energy, sometimes by even facial characteristics because they'll look like some reptilian I've seen.
Like, for example, Elon Musk.
I get a really strong reptilian vibe from him.
And I got the impression like a year and a half ago, a year ago, he had the activation of his DNA. They took him underground, did something biologically or ritually, both, and they activated his DNA even further.
And you could see it in his body language since then, his personality.
And it's funny, there is this fish...
Do you see that fish with a human face?
There's a little Twitter and Facebook, a carp.
Go look at that fish and look at Elon Musk.
And they look identical to each other, which I think kind of proves I've been saying it for a while.
But to answer that question, yeah, deep state, as far as what you call it, yeah, they have a higher percentage of hybrids, but it doesn't mean...
They do tend to end up at the top of various, I guess, pyramids.
I mean, Silicon Valley, modern Silicon Valley, not 20 years ago, 30 years ago, but now, you know, Elizabeth Holmes, Zuckerberg, these people are absolutely hybrids.
You can see it in their skin tone, the way some of them don't blink, the facial features.
These are flat-out hybrids, like made in a lab environment.
Not just they have more reptilian blood than the actual person.
These are barely passing for human hackers.
They're very powerful.
You can't vote them out.
All these politicians you get mad at, you can vote them out.
You can't vote out these people.
The way they're just crowding into Silicon Valley is very...
I do think Elon Musk will...
You've got to watch him.
People like that will become more and more powerful and you just can't do anything about it in terms of In terms of recourse of elections.
But yeah, any next question, if you have any? - Muted.
So no, I think we'll just leave it like that.
And I want to thank you very much for coming on the show.
I think it's great that you're so willing to talk about your experience and your understanding.
And so kudos to you.
You're a courageous individual.
And I think it's great that you are doing this.
So I want to thank you again.
And Hopefully you can come back when you have more things to say.
Sounds like you're going to become something of a spokesperson for these individuals, or at least a certain group.
And that's all good.
Look, I just want to say to people out there that this is what we're going to face.
We are a race, a melting pot of so many different races, and more and more people are going to come sort of into the realization of which races you represent.
And as that happens, there's also going to be, you know, more disclosure.
And as more disclosure happens, there's going to be more revealing of individuals that have looked human up to now, but actually aren't really all that human and so on.
So, you know, this is a great learning experience for everyone.
And I think that...
Could I... Thank you.
Yeah, please go right ahead.
My Twitter?
Yes.
My Twitter is Panama Orange, one word, Panama Orange, like the canal and the color.
And I'm also Panama Orange on StockTwits, where I've got like 28,000 followers.
I haven't talked about my reptilian experiences on StockTwits.
It's not really appropriate for there, but that does show I have some level of strategic to build 28,000 followers when I only follow a couple hundred people just from analyzing stocks.
Yeah.
I must have some strategic ability to build up that many that I've demonstrated on there as far as predicting or analyzing things.
On Twitter, I don't have a ton of followers.
I don't use Facebook much at all.
I can't stand the interface and how it operates.
I tweet pretty consistently at Panama Orange.
My SoundCloud is also Panama Orange.
My DMs are open if someone wants to DM me on Twitter or something.
But I just need to throw that in there as far as a way to contact me if someone needs to.
I can take criticism on this just fine because I know I'm not exaggerating.
I know I'm not consciously making any of this up.
So I'm not ashamed to take any...
Okay, and that's great.
And I will say that this individual, Ben, with regard to the hither material, was also being augmented by the reptilians at that time.
So, again, I have gotten testimony to this effect from others, so he is not the first in this regard.
However, he's being quite public about it, which is, again, you know, to be commended.
So, Matt, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Do you want to get emails and what is your email address?
That would be circlepanama, so it's circle like the shape, panamalikethecanal at gmail.com.
So circlepanama at gmail, that's kind of a secondary email I use, I give out publicly.
But I do check that occasionally.
I check it like once a week.
So I could be emailed there.
Twitter, like I said, if anyone has a Twitter account, you can DM me on Twitter if my DMs are open.
And those are the ways of contacting me.
And on Twitter, you're known as Panama Orange.
Is that correct?
One word, no capitalizations.
Yes.
Okay, very good.
Alright, look, you take care and thanks again for coming forward and thanks everyone for watching.
Have a great weekend and we'll be back next week with some hopefully more stories and more experiences because I have put the call out for any experiencers and contactees to contact me and people are doing so, so as I can get them on the show, we'll do that.
And it just depends if you've got a story that I think is in-depth enough and credible enough that we can bring you on.
So that's kind of the deciding factor.
So thank you, Matt, and take care.
I appreciate you having me on.
Thanks.
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